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>>98213567Is that an immutable characteristic of the wolverine, or are there perhaps prominent variants with other, better weapons?
Is there a cgl hauptman mini?
>>98213583Iron wind mini's are the old scale right? I don't want to buy a bunch of the models to be stuck with odd looking mini's>Catalyst still doesnt sell individual mechs
>>98213594As the other guy said, adding better weapons like say the 6m are just making the mech a griffin
Honor the dragon!
>>98213597The newest IWM models are the exact same sculpts but crisper and with less mold lines and poseable. Their older stuff is more variable in scale.
>>98213610Sure man. There's no flavor difference between a jumpy sniper who's weapons all have a minimum range and a well armored brawler that may or may not have jumping.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98213583
>>98213636Could be worse. Could be a Hunchback fan right?
>>98213656Remember to keep on winning, son.
>>98213636>There's no flavor difference between a jumpy sniper who's weapons all have a minimum rangeWe use a LL and two ML's here.
>>98213656oh for fucks sakes. first they have to fag up the griffin, now the hunchback?
>>98213679
For a palate cleanser do you think they'll do a warship visual update if they ever do an anniversary edition of TRO 2750?
>>98213698Nothing will top this soul
>>98213710that 1960's speculative fiction vibe.
>>98213710Huh, if I had a penny for each sci-fi setting who had ships that were just flying space dildo's, I'd have two pennies. Which isn't a lot, but it's notable that's happened twice.
>>98213583I fucking love the Republic's Super-Heavies.
>>98213715>>98213710>>98213698The most surprising about these is that the garble original designs could be face lifted into something that makes sense.
>>98213716lolno. space dildoes were the thing throughout pretty much the entire blossoming of speculative fiction turning into Sci Fi. they became strenuously avoided ever since that golden age out of cultural cringe from the johnny come latelies who imagine themselves above such things.
>>98213716Shafts and balls are a staple of classic sci-fi
>>98213716
>>98213727>>98213749Makes me wish I'd saved images of those spaceship-shaped novelty Tengas.
>>98213595No. Closest is a Regent, unfortunately. I don't think the Hauptmann even has art from this century. >>98213679How fucking fragile are you? A single drawing ruins a mech for you? Do you think nazimechanon ever ruined a mech for them? (Hint: no)>>98213723That Greek pattern is rad. I never got around to doing Greek-inspired mechs; closest I got was painting the Proliferation Cycle mechs like corroded bronze.
I hate painting battle armor so goddamn much.
>>98213597>Catalyst still doesnt sell individual mechsAnd they won't. They've said that repeatedly. Seethe and dilate.
>>98213698That spaceship would look amazing in white with pink and light blue striping along the long axis.
>>98213821Weak baitIt's gonna work, though
>>98213583Repeating from last thread tell me about your dudes
>>98213843Republic of the Sphere Knight who chose to remain outside the Fortress when the Wall went up in 3135. In the year 3139, he leads a small, elite force belonging to Republic Remnant and has been charged by the True Exarch, Damien Redburn, with finding isolated Republic forces trapped beyond the wall and reuniting them with the Remnant.Now he roams the burning, broken remains of the Republic Prefectures in search of brave men and women who continue to fight for Stone's Dream in an effort to strengthen the Remnant and keep the vision of the Republic alive.He commands an adhoc force made up of RAF troops, Northwind Highlanders and Fidelis warriors who are all deeply loyal to their commander.
>>98213821Don't think Mariks ever used the Vincents?
>>98213843When Vau Galaxy was destroyed by Clan Wolf and the Kell Hounds, Phelan declared that none of the captured Falcons will be MechWarriors again, unless they do it as mercenaries. Katherine requested to be taken as a bondswoman by the Hounds pretty much immediately, since the defeat completely disillusioned her to the Crusader mentality and Clan culture in general. After proving her loyalty in noncombat roles, Katherine was given the opportunity to pilot her old Shadow Cat, restored with the help of Wolf-in-Exile. Over time, she works her way up to lieutenant, and eventually captain; she now commands a company in Second Regiment. When her subordinates discovered (against her wishes) that she was bloodnamed, they immediately began bragging about it, and the command has since been known (against her wishes) as Pryde Company. >inb4 someone doesn't get the reference and says something stupid>>98213859Sounds pretty cool. Fighting in former Republic territory means he can fight against pretty much any other faction, right? Everyone wanted a piece of that.
>>98213818A lot of companies have said they wouldn't do a lot of things that they later did, in fact, do.
>>98213888I always like clan to merc. Like to name mech warriors and give them some lore and when I got a Blood Asp decided to make the pilot a captured Star Adder.>Prodigy mech warrior>Killed three mechs during trial of position to become a Star Captain >Became Nova Captain with Star Adders>Despite being a great mech warrior was a garbage commander who tended to focus more on personal combat than actually issuing orders>Partipated in a raid against Hanseatic League when merc regiment was in their service>Got led into an obvious trap and ambushed>Captured by mercs and works for them in non-combat role doubting she is worthy of being repatriated even though the mercs give her the option after a couple years of service>Grows to like the mercs and is eventually allowed to join company as a mech warrior piloting her own Blood Asp>Refuses promotions to command positions out of humility and realization she's a garbage commander>Eventually becomes trainer of new mech warriors which she does well as>Her grandson later uses her bloodname as his surname and larps as a clanner which she finds cringey and retarded in equal measure but he inherits her mech
>>98213597>>98213899When you look at the general price curve of their boxes compared to model count, I'm >95% sure that the biggest reason they don't comes down to shipping costs. Like there's some difference from the amount of plastic or models inside, but the biggest correlation by far of price for their models comes down to the size of the box - with the smaller the box the less efficient per model the price is. If they tried to sell singleton boxes, I'd bet money that whoever they're using for shipping would charge enough that when combined with the tariffs they have to pay for the chinese-based manufacturing, they'd be something like $20 or even $25 a model.Like their website prices are dogshit compared to what you can get at game stores (seen LGS prices be like 25% lower), but even on that thing, you can easily go from $35 for the small Lance of 4 models ($8.75/model) to for their Clan Star and Legendary Mech Warriors $40 for 5 ($8/model) to the Proliferation Cycle's $50 for 7 models and also code for a $5 book (functionally $6.42/model after subtracting the book). It clearly not the plastic holding them back but dogshit logistics. Something that would be way more pronounced, something which would be way more pronounced with singleton models which is why they said what >>98213818 anon said about them not offering singletons but leaving that in Iron Wind Metals hands.
One thing I do like about the Battletech setting is how women's rights have greatly regressed, mostly in the Draconis Combine but also on a lot of the semi-industrial feudal shithole planets in places like the FedSuns that are back to 20th century or earlier levels of tech
>>98214080They presumably just aren't set up to do it and are too inflexible due to outsourcing to be able to do it quickly.
>>98214145A woman sits the Chrysanthemum Throne, you slanderous nonce.
>>98213821Kill yourself bottom. Keep your tranny propaganda out of my game.
>>98214145Women are still allowed to pilot Mechs and be outdoors without a male chaperone and generally refuse to do what men tell them to. They have too many rights in Battletech.
>>98214145>t.never read a BattleTech novel
>>98211992 Have you done other Battletech models anon? There is a server with other Battletech 3D designers if you are interested.
>>98213637Nein.
How many of you Honor the Dragon! Drac-a-boos are actually Black Dragons?
>>98214170I think you meant to say that a roasty has ruined the carpet.Or at least I think that's how they put it.
>>98213814>How fucking fragile are you? A single drawing ruins a mech for you?You will never be a women troonanon.
Dragon Status: HONORED
>>98214495He is right you know
>>98214243Yes I have, no I am not interested.
>>98214624A shame anon. You do a nice job.
>>98213597>old scaleWhat the hell are you talking about? There is no scale. The game is ostensibly in 6mm but it doesn't matter at all since the mech sizes don't with with the map sheets. Don't be this anal.
>>98214680He clearly means with regards to relative size. Looks weird when some mechs are noticably bigger than their weight class suggests relative to each other.
>>98213656I mean, the paint job is just so noisy and ugly. You would thing that faggots, having overrun the arts, would have developed some artistic taste. But no, ugly technicolor vomit on the mech, on the background, it's a veritable assault on the senses.
>>98214726Faggots tend to have some artistic taste. These autogynophiles dont.
>>98213753This just looks like he took a kushan heavy cruiser from homeworld and shifted some proportions around.
I think battletech warship design is ugly
>>98214726Yeah you'd think they'd be fun and flamboyant but this is beyond corporate and sterile? Frankly I wish they would adopt a landsknecht style which also I think we need more of in Battletech.
>>98214779I think you're ugly.
>>98214769Quite a few things in The Expanse feel like they were Homeworld inspired.>>98214779and I think you are gay.
>>98214784Someone once wondered what swiss guard colors would look like on a mech.
>>98214791Legit looks like they are from the hood.
>>98214784I mean, they are troons. The can not be original. They will stick to the same meme overv and over again (the trans flag, the canopian catgirl, etc).
>>98214145>looks at the Canopians Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>98214893Shut the fuck up about the Canopians. Shut the fuck up about the Taurians and Marians. No one gives a fuck about these stupid periphery bastards. No one can even bother to think of proper names for their states, that's how little people care about them
>>98214906Rude!
>>98214906t. Liao whose son was killed by Taurians and was cucked by a Canopian whore
What the fuck do marians even do over there
>>9821502680% of the time they do cosplay LARP. The rest of the time, they raid the FWL while doing cosplay LARP.
>>98215026Masturbate to Roman aesthetics and dress up like they are in a 2000 AD comic
>>98215026Mass produce some damn good Battle Armor
>>98213989Clan to merc is a good pipeline because it inherently involves character development, which is always a plus.
>>98215249
Goodbye paddle hands.
>>98215425>Club feet>Club hands
>>98215425The 2M has been depicted with that style of hand. The 3M has a sort of hood on its hands, and they're less slanted. I'd have preferred that since I play Regulans, but I already have the metal one anyway. The 2M might be more widely available.The metal model comes with all three options.
>>98215474The paddles are delightful though.
>>98215483These are both listed as 2M, but maybe one of them is actually the 2Mb?
But what are the homeworld clans doing in the 3150s?
>>98215579Autistic screeching.
>>98215605But they isolated themselves, there's nobody to hear them.
>>98213698I asked them about nuTRO 3026 in 2026, nu4th SW book in 2028 abd they said "no too much work"
>>98213698https://youtu.be/P_lGIUE-yRc?is=6laklHdxse07aK33Closest to that would be this and honestly it's quite good IMO
>>98215610That won't stop them.
>>98215579Adders launch raids to keep the guys who want to genocide all the spheroids and other clans busy.
>>98213716Unironically flying dildos are best starship designs. Better than "flying geometric shape" or "water ship but in space." Also submarines are essentially dildos barring the conning tower and bulges for carrying ICBMs.
>>98213698They will never revisit warships.
>>98214529Dragon paint status: EXTREMELY THICC
>>98215579Being removed from the plot for all eternity as the devs have deemed them too much effort to care about
>Melee is a big part of BT>Most melee weapons are not worth the tonnage>Its better just to kick
>>98213597>BT>scalewut
>>98215858The TSM whispers to me and says I should hit you in the mouth with this slab of metal.
>>98215858They're nerfing kicks slightly in the upcoming core rules.
>>98215909They really should be buffing most of the melee weapons. They aren't even sidegrades, they're just downgrades.
>>98215579being dead
>>98215901Back when they rolled on the punch table, you actually could.
>>98215932The problem really is that kicks are insanely overpowered. A -2 hit modifier with a chance to knock over (nearly 100% against mechs two size categories down) is absurd.
>>98215950You mean like you can right now, page 146 of Total Warfare?"Alternatively, when the controlling player announces the... attack... use the Punch or Kick Hit Location Table... Apply a +4 modifier in addition to all standard modifiers."Works with Hatchets, Retractable Blades and Swords.
>>98215961Being fair, you're using probably the most powerful assembly of myomer on the mech to assault another mech. It makes sense that a light mech would be on its ass when a heavy mech spartan kicks it center mass.
>>98216007A +4 modifier is pretty harsh.
Why is battletech the only mech game alive on /tg/? I know people dont like lancer because gay utopia setting so that makes sense. But no other mech RPGs?
Fight me.
>>98216066Granted, with hatchet you get -2 to TN so you're basically rolling PSR with +2, which is doable (it's the same penalty as shooting at medium range, which is the most common range for shooting due to most weapons have very small short-range band).
>>98216071Oh fuck this is a wargame thread. Disregard.
>>98215961It's not even merely kicks being overpowered, it's that kicks basically have no limitations placed on them, while virtually every other melee attack does. Having spent a turn running doesn't impede kicking for some reason, but firing a small laser in the arm disallows punching/hatcheting/whathaveyou.The whole system needs a rewrite. Buffing melee weapons by themselves won't be enough.
>>98216095Technically firing leg weapons does disable kicks, but uhhhh... Crusader? That one primitive mech with the exploding knee MGs? Not much has leg weapons.
>>98216114Oh no my Wasp can't use its SRM2 on a kick. This is a true tragedy.Legs in general feel like a bit of a mechbuilding waste, especially when DHS comes into play. Them being so limited in space isn't bad or anything but what the fuck are you going to put in there?
>>98216007Yeah good luck hitting that called shot modifier, assuming your opponent even lets you use alternate rules.
>>98216177The essential, bulky and more forcefully myomer that keeps you upright and moving, as opposed to the lighter arm components which are not required to bear the full weight of the mech? It makes perfect sense that legs are quite limited in this regard. They're already very much preoccupied with their primary duty.
>>98216050I mean sure, but the fiction needs to serve the game, not the other way around. As it stands, kicks are just the most overpowered close-range attack; there's never a reason to use another melee weapon unless you have TSM or the target already has taken head hits. This is a problem for tactical depth.>>98216071People DO like Lancer, they just don't bother talking about it anymore because of the inevitable shitting up of their threads by people who don't even play the game.Contrary to popular belief, /tg/ isn't /pol/.
>>98216177One CERPPC per leg.Make a retarded quad hellstar.
>>98216212They're not really alternative rules, they're listed directly on the physical weapon table.If you hit you have a 1 in 6 shot of instantly destroying a mech depending on tonnage and TSM. I think that kind of difficulty is justified for that kind of payout.
>>98216343That "if you hit" is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Kicking at -2 and getting a better-than-1-in-6 chance of knocking over the target is usually better than axing at +2. Due to the steep 2d6 curve, the accuracy difference is enormous.I like melee weapons as much as anyone (one of the first mechs I painted and keep fielding is an Axman) but it's true that they're very limited in their use case, and aiming for the head is basically never worth it.
>>98216317Preview of the next TR by the way.
>>98216382Here's the errata where I didn't forget to allocate like six tons of armor.
>>98215961Wrong. The kick is what keeps the light mech from pulling MWO retard shit on the tabletop.
>>98216395Well, that, and tarcomps, pulse weapons, lbx, short range bonuses, and so forth. Target moved penalties aren't actually debilitating unless you're trying to shoot aircraft.
>>98216395You prevent that retard shit in MWO by shooting them because your aim isn't controlled by dice rolls.And it's not like anything besides another light in TT is ever going to reasonably be in kicking range of a light anyway. A light that loses initiative isn't just going to sit in a hex you can move adjecent to for a kick, and a light that won initiative is going to run to your biped's rear arc if he wants and without closing to melee if it's a quad.
Thinking of a small project, I always like mechs with shoulder guns and I like heavy cavalry/striker mechs so why not combine them and turn those big shoulders of the archer as bins for storing ultra autocannon ammo?Left is the base variant and right is a clan refit, gist being move fast and keep shooting. Mostly heat neutral, although the clan version will struggle at keeping heat neutral when its moving due to the bigger guns. Design plan is to pretty much remove the missile pods and stick in some autocannons, trying to make the former pod look sort of like a giant gear for elevating and depressing the guns like the blood asp's shoulder guns.
>>98216507Did that flea just tank like 8 gauss rifle shots?
>>98216728Armor is doubled in MWO and everyone maxes it out.
>>98216728It's C-Gauss, which appears to be cluster gauss based on the number of projectiles fired.
>>98216728Base structure values and maximum armor values are significantly increased in MWO compared to TT, quirks and pilot skills can increase them further.The first gauss rifle shot instantly destroyed its leg. Destruction of a single leg is not fatal because that would create an extremely cancerous and stupid leg meta in a competitive multiplayer game where players control where they shoot.The second pair of shots immediately destroyed its side torso and it lived because it wasn't using an ISXL.The next to pairs of shots go into the destroyed side torso which eventually destroy the CT but damage that bleeds through destroyed components is significantly reduced unlike TT.There's a lot more shooting in MWO but it still ends up being much faster than TT. Consider that clip takes place in the span of a single TT turn worth of time.>>98216751Cgauss fires single projectiles, what looks like additional projectiles is just the discarding sabot partially disintegrating.
Which book contains the rules for how artillery cannons interact with the ASF system?
>>98214791>>98214784reminds me of this feller from a long time ago
>>98215727The paint isn’t thick, the highlights are just done in a blocky style.
Battalion: 36 mechs or 40 mechs? I'm trying to expand my company and it's kind of a big deal for me now
>>98216991Literally up to you. Sometimes they have a separate command lance, sometimes they don't.
>>98216082>with hatchet you get -2 to TNSword you mean?
>>9821699140 if you want a floating command lance.
>>98217005>>98217009my problem with 40 is that a fucking overlord is 36 mechs max for some reason
>>98217014I suppose this tells us that whoever designed the Overlord intended it for battalions without a floating command lance.
>>98217030Command lance is too fancy to be in the Overlord with the rest of the plebs. They have their own, fancier dropship with sparkling wine, cigars, blackjack (not the mech) and hookers.
I’m reading the IlClan battle for Terra for the first time, and is it made clear elsewhere that Alaric is a cunt who brought the rabid dog of the clans to Terra so that he’d look like a saint in comparison? Not to mention bitching out the Highlanders by pulling the “kill me and my wolves will completely disregard the rules of our trial” gameplan. Why’s he such an immense cunt?
>>98217039Makes enough sense, Overlord is for the battalion, Leopard or something is for the commander and his staff officers. Overall though that would be a matter of integrated resources if any exist. Could have a commander sitting in a base or leading his own lance or simply be the most senior company commander.
>>98217057>Spheroid breaks the rules of engagement>Wow he is so clever and cunning>Clanner breaks the rules of engagement>Wow why is he suck an immense cunt?It's his spheroid Steiner-Davion genes.
>>98217030Or intended for the tip of the spear to be in something more aggressive like a Leopard or Union with the Overlord holding "most" of the Battalion. The main use case for Leopards and Confederates before a bunch for tramp mercenaries got a hold of them was to insert your nastiest headhunters behind the lines or your biggest brawlers directly into the front line. And the Star League was ready to have as many jumpships as it took to get whatever they wanted wherever they wanted it.
>>98217066More likely the command lance displaces some kind of advance or scout unit that rides in a leopard.
IIRC, Battalions are also where you start to get a bunch of attached elements like artillery and medical teams. And then with that many people you need logistics chains and maybe engineers to build a fire base and probably some extra infantry just for security and who knows how many dropships full of spare parts and ammo, and so on.
>>98216728Yes. Thanks to mwo being coded by giant retards, the faster you move, the less the game bothers to even resolve collisions and hits. Which is why a flea effectively has triple the armour of an atlas. You can hit a flea with srm60 and the games netcode serverside will just delete 30-40 of those srms Its just especially egregious with massive damage single hit weapons like goose.
>>98217039Why not the mech? Ilclan era gives us mass produced blackjack C. Two clpl and 2 cssrm4. Fucking beautiful.
>>98217221They did an event to see if that was true and it was full of shit. Try aiming and using Artemis or switch to Streaks instead of bitching about it in the wrong thread.
Do we have any knowledge of whether the Smoke Jaguars went back to their own colours or still wear the Fidelis scheme in the Ilclan era?
>>98217221The flea was not even moving fast enough for that to be the case even if it were true.The reason shots that appear to hit clientside and seemingly do no damage on fast moving targets is because the game has no lag compensation and all target hit indicators are clientside, only certain confirmations like component destroyed or kills or assists check with the server and give you a definite clientside confirmation something happened.
I didn't realize the metal Yeoman is a single piece model. Seeing it just squared up like that in the packaging is tickling my funny bone.
>>98215950Going back to the games original ruleset, physical attacks have specified if they use a hit location table other than the standard one. Club attacks have never been on the punch table, and hatchets have counted as club attacks since their rules introduction in the Compendium in 1990. The punch table hatchet is just a persistent misapprehension. The only changes have been for targets on different elevations, also added in the Compendium, and adding the aim high/low rule for physical weapons in Total Warfare in 2006.
>>98214490Blacks don't play Battletech anon.
>>98215721>They will never revisit warships.And nothing of value was lost
>>98217498Share a picture!
>>98217606I can see you have not spent much time in Atlanta.
I played aerospace a couple weeks ago and it seemed fairly simple to me. But it was an actual deep space game, so maybe atmosphere and having ground underneath you fucks it all up. But space movement and shooting is fine. Fucking around with thrust and velocity makes movement interesting and shooting is actually a lot simpler than it is for ground units. Range brackets are all shared and cluster rolls aren't a thing, you just do damage based on if you rolled a 7 on the cluster chart.
>>98217333probably original
>>98217637I don't know how to read this Force Composition. Can anyone decipher this?
>>98217626I already opened it, but it's this guy. For some reason I tend to think of it as a knockoff Longbow, but it's actually an extra cursed 60 tonner.
>>98217646Is there any advantage on using this over the Longbow or the Treb?
>>98217646It has 50 LRM tubes. That's all it really is, two LRM-10s and two LRM-15s on legs. No backup weapons, no jump jets. Can't overheat without external sources, won't die to an ammo explosion. 1344 BV.
>>98217642Three pages earlier in the book, the Force Composition Abbreviation Table. "OM" isn't on the table, but can be inferred to mean omnimech, so the Falcon Guards there consist of light omnimech trinary, a medium omnimech supernova, a heavy omnimech trinary, and an assault omnimech binary.
What's the most cowboy mech and what's the most cowboy battle armor?
>>98217716Meant for >>98217674The Jihad variant is a little more interesting, trading out the 15s for four MML-5s and jump jets so it can fight things that get close to it. Still won't die to an ammo explosion (although it will hurt due to the Light Engine) and won't immediately overheat on a jumping alpha strike (but don't push your luck)
>>98217721Bushwacker always felt very cowboy to me, also the Blackjack, I suppose in part for its name.
>>98217754Bushwacker would look cute with a cowboy hat and maybe a little cigarIs there any variant with a head-mounted laser?
>>98217716>>98217731I dunno, I'd go with the LRM carrier if I had a choice
>>98217721
>>98217857The LRM Carrier is a 3/5 tracked vehicle without environmental sealing or amphibious mod. In many cases, you won't have the choice.
am I the only one who wants a War of Reaving part 2 with the sphere clans retaking the homeworlds?
>>98217859Damn shame it's not really exported, but makes sense for the Froncs. It looks like the only other faction to get them is the Taurians.
>Last night>8v8 game, each team gets two Royals and the rest are introtech >House Kurita vs Wolf's Dragoons>First shot of the entire game>Locust fires LRMs>needs 11 to hit my Crusader, gets it>4 on cluster table>TAC>1 crit in CT>oshit.flac>goes into engine>because I am Honoring the Dragon, I'm running the Crusader 3K, which drops anti infantry guns for more heat sinks>can cope with being at +5 heat>Enemy proceeds to focus my Crusader>she proves nigh unkillable. The enemy Nightstar repeatedly misses both Gauss shots when it only needs a 7 or 8>end of game she is battered but still combat capable>last shot of the game is her coring the Locust that critted her engine I feel like I need to name this pilot
>>98217955Sakuya Tachibana.
>>98217955Dave Yamada
>>98217867It would be pretty funny if e.g. Ghost Bear and Goliath Scorpion, generally two of the largest Clans and certainly so with entire empires under their rule, just went back and used their superior "corrupted" Spheroid knowledge of strategy and logistics to body the entirety of the homeworld clans.I'm pretty sure that's why the snakes are so intent on preventing the remaining homeworld clans from trying to "genocide" the Inner Sphere; the matchup isn't even close anymore.
>>98217965>>98217964I don't think naming her after a guy from popular fiction is the right call. Might name her after someone from Star League era history. Side note, these captchas are basically one step short of Harrison Ford posing complex ethical dilemmas to me.
>>98217985Damn, he looked it up. A perfect plan ruined by basic due diligence once again.
>>98217967I can see Ghost Bear, Snow Raven, Sea Fox and Hells Horse[maybe throw in some inner sphere mercenaries, Goliath Scorpions are too focused on zellbringen to be down with the tomfoolery the ravens and bears would undoubtedly pull] teaming up to curbstomp the shit out of the homeworld clans, with the force being volunteers to not leave territory undefended. While the Wolves, Falcons and Jaguars are busy dealing with Star League stuff, in the background Task Force Snake Eater[made of the aforementioned bears, ravens, foxes and horses] having the mother of all sidequests with the Star League Three unaware until the Task Force returns and brings with all the spoils of the conflict.
>>98218010>Task Force Snake EaterFucking ballerAlthough, consider:>Operation PATRICK
>>98217999Darn, how'd he figure Dave was a dude's name?
Do they look any different?
>TYR-1 Tyrant>assault mech>primary weapon: Heavy Gauss Rifle R-Arm>secondary weapon: medium laser C-torso, LRM-10 on L and R torso>tertiary weapon: HMG on head>large sensor array on L-arm>can kick
>>98217057Not quite related, but all the bullshit with Wolf's Dragoons getting played by Alaric felt severely undercut by all the people he directly screwed over getting killed by other Dragoons shortly afterwards.Like sure the other Dragoons carry on that vendetta and are committed to fucking over Alaric, but it feels a lot less personal when they killed the people most wronged by him.Like what the fuck was the point of killing Brubaker?
>>98218119Can't put HGR in arms.
>>98218131what the hell is the railgun other than an arm?
>>98218140You could model it as a regular Gauss or as a big HAG
>>98218131I forget, was it just tripods or superheavies that can?
>>98218121Brubaker killed himself, they were just going to exile him since he was blackmailed into it. The officers who they executed were the traitors who jumped at the chance to get knotted and got all the rank and file killed for Alaric.
>>98214906Battletech state names are pretty cringe>[gwneric boring astrological sign/region] [generic boring form of government]Lyran Commonwealth, Draconis Combine amd Capellan Confederation sound much gayer than just calling them Steiner, Liao and Kurita. FedSuns and FWL are at least descriptive. All of the faggot periphery nations are like this but the worst offenders are where they straight up pull actual historical polities wholesale without even bothering to change them:>Umad Caliphate>Hanseatic League>Nueva CastilleLazy low effort as fuck
>>98218224I like the state names referencing astronomy, but I agree with you on the Ummayids and Castillians.
I got a meme lance.
>>98218224>Russian Federation>United States of America>Kingdom of (Saudi) Arabia>United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland>South Africa
>>98214906>>98218224>Lazy low effort as fuckLike your shitty bait? Fuck you. I'm going to Otisburg!
Is there truly any hope that Clan Main Character will get pushed out of the spotlight and someone else will take Terra? I’m a Marik fan but I don’t care who wins, I just want to see Clan Wolf lose.
>>98218355As evidenced by Sun-Tzu, there's always a chance, but you need a writer to like the character in question.
>>98217867If the 3rd Star League actually establishes itself as a legitimate superpower in the IS and doesn’t just hang on as a rump state, I could see a particularly hungry first lord sending an expedition to subjugate the home clans and get the bragging rights of holding both Terra and Strana Mechty.It would be kind of interesting if this resulted in colonization attempts for the systems in between, to try and make a more sustainable corridor by which Clan Space and the IS can be reliably connected.And if the 3SL then collapses, the systems making up that corridor would be in a very interesting position. They could essentially become battletech’s Silk Road, facilitating trade in tech and materials between the clans and the IS..
>>98218401Do the HW Clans have anything to trade that the IS wants? The Society did neat shit, but so did the Wobbies, and the entire scientist caste in all HW Clans got annihilated, right? I doubt they have a significant advantage anymore.
>>98217628Nobody believes you commie.
>>98218443>entire scientist caste in all HW Clans got annihilated, right?No, it was Clan Coyote scientists.
>>98213843I owed you this from last thread:>Be Com Guards 6th Army 102d Division "Focht's Knights">face Clan Steel Viper on Tukayyid and get buckbroken like a Canopian catamite>survivors later get sent to other units but stay in touch, traumatized by Clanners>Jihad happens, almost every veteran of the unit dies>highest ranking survivor is a Level 3 Colonel equivalent>scrapes together enough post-Jihad vets to form a couple of Level 2 units and mash them into a demi-unit>start mercing under the moniker "Mirage Knights">unit cohesion cemented by pseudo-ritualism and an absolute hatred for all things Clan>builds up through the Dark Age to a bare bones Level 3>scrape together enough funds to refit/repair an Overlord DropShip>start hiring out Company-sized formations on nearby worlds to whomever can pay for services>time passes, vets retire out or die and are replaced>CO pulls a Karpov and selects his successor personally before dying of actual natural causes>IlClan era kicks off, fucking Clanners everywhere>new CO is less about the ritualism and more about running a profitable, reputable merc unit, but the Old Guard remnants are keeping an eye on him for Clanner taint>unpopular decision of restructuring the Levels into regular formations to field 3 full Companies if pressed to has people whispering>time will tell how the new guy will play out against the pressure of the era and the internal politics, but he rides the Knight of Gold BL-9-KNT so his word, for now, is law>unit currently under the employ of House Marik, but a Company is offworld in the Hinterlands on contract against an Alyina Mercantile League incursion on a disputed world in the Vesper Marches
>>98215026Conquer the Lothian League and menace Marik border worlds
>>98217674Longbow is perfection, so no
>WIP Jade FalconI'm still trying to nail my base coat, but next I'm going to do smoke jaguar for my Alpha Strike box
>and the entire scientist caste in all HW Clans got annihilated, right? I doubt they have a significant advantage anymore.There were purges across all the HW Clans and the Scientist Caste was crippled by them, but no. not every single HW scientist in existence was killed.
I'm planning out my Ilclan-era army. Going to be playing SLDF. I'm thinking of having the bulk of my SLDF be Inner Sphere mechs, laid out in Lances, with a single Star of Clan Omnimechs painted up as either Smoke Jaguars, Jade Falcons or Snow Ravens, acting in support/serving as the elite core of the force. I'm going to have a single Clan Wolf warrior leading them, piloting something powerful like a Timber Wolf, Savage Wolf or Warhawk/Masakari.So basically:Bulk of force is SLDF soldiers.Single Star of elite Clan Warriors acting in support.Single Clan Wolf mech piloted by the overall commander/leader of the force. I think this'll work and be fairly interesting.
>>98218883Sounds cool
Someone upload the unabridged audiobook of Wolves on the Border plz.
A novel where a lance is stranded on a backwater and they're being hunted by an elite mixed cappy lance of mechs and ba. They're sporting some really niche tech and the protagonists are both undergunned and comically racist. The climax is a fist fight in Chad McProtagonist's cockpit as a badly damaged BA claws through the canopy at him and he stabs the exposed BA in the face with his fucksleeve's kabar.He yells ARRRGHHH, sets his reactor to blow, and sneaks into the cappy base camp to steal one of their mechs. War crimes ensue. Sun rises on a bloodied, oil stained sole survivor. That song from the end of Mortal Kombat plays. Mechs appear on the horizon... but they're not friendly. Protag McThundercock is bringing the fight to the Caps in their own machine. And this time, it's personal.
I love IndustrialMechs :D
>>98218909Oh, also the sassy gay pilot(Ruby Rhod) sacrifices xerself after a monologue they give that nobody is alive to hear.
>>98218909>>98218926Trying Too Hard and/or (You)
>>98218929Perhaps the true battletech was the friends we genocided along the way
Clan Hell's Horses had a really weird colour scheme in Wizkid's Mechwarrior game. Gray, gold and bright red. Fucking wwwwweeeeeiiiiirrrrrrdddd.
>>98218937Woah. The dark age made a weird aesthetic choice. You are probably the first one to notice that.
>>98218943Ikr? Wild!
>>98218937I legit like it.
>>98218937I see that timberwolf and all I can think is>He's got a lock on me! He's got a lock on m-!
>>98218883>Third "Star League" >Led by W*lfIf I ever see you it's on sight nigga. You fucked up a good thing we had going. Jokes aside, sounds neat! I really like Fidelis/Clan Smoke Jaguar; I'm trying to convince my Jag buddy to try ilClan since I've been painting 2 companies worth of Hansen's Roughriders. (I've liked em' for a while, but since the Highlanders got raped they're the ones I'll be playing for ilClan. Besides, they kill Wolves and Kuritans for sport. Sounds good enough for me.)
>>98218924Are there any battle reports involving indy v indy mechs?
I miss the leather fetish, anarcho-punk, rebel, subversive art style of old Battletech.
Battletech 2018 was really just the story of these two trying to aggressively scissor the other to death
>>98218980>the quaint notion that there will be hawaiian's in the 2900'sI don't think they're even Terran, let alone hail from any of the places/people they claim. They'd be so far removed from those ethnicities by the time they were born they'd be just as correct claiming european aristocracy.
>>98218966I really like the idea of it. Think it'll be fun to represent the Third Star League on the table. What better way to represent Alaric's new nation than have a bunch of Spheroid schmucks fighting and dying at the whim of a Clan Wolf commander while actual, proper Clan warriors do the important stuff and win all the glory?
>>98218978still relevant on the periphery
>>98218992there's not even real hawaiians now. literally all the 'natives' are actually hostiles who came with the 'evil colonisers'... and while those 'evil colonisers' were building you know, roads and sanitation bla bla bla... the non natives exterminated all the Hawaiians and declared themselves the One True Natives.. those evil huwhites turned around from their nation building and found one group of browns hadswapped places with the other browns and the first lot were ... gone? so they shrugged and got back to making stuff. oh those nasty poo poo colonisers!>yes but what has the romans done fer us except the ...
>>98219004My point was less about the obvious nu-tech brown focus and more about how silly it is to claim a tiny population a thousand years in the future from a planet the last 5 generations of your family haven't even touched. I would assume in an interstellar species, you'd claim your homeworld and anything that further divides you there would just be some shit you bond with other degenerates at a bar over so people can say "You know Craig too? Whoa! Small galaxy, bro!" The planetary equivalent of finding out your lance mate is from peru and you're from argentina and everyone else thinking all Terrans know eachother.
>>98218992This is the same setting where dozens of different groups have decided to base their entire society around imitating a historic polity and then never change. Keeping track of what ethnic/regional group your family is from is peanuts compared to the stuff the others are up to.
>>98213843>Joined up the Northwind Highlanders around 3026 or so (Right after Northwind was reclaimed by the Federated Suns) >Total fuckup of a mechwarrior, big problem with authority- Sent to Macleod's Regiment>Didn't get to do any fun stuff for the Fourth Succession War, stuck on Northwind garrison duty>First trial by fire was in 3039>Clans invade, sent to the front since the AFFS is bleeding men>Makes a name for himself against Jade Falcons>Joins the relief force for Jaffray back on Wayside in 3057>Macleod's Regiment brought into Taskforce SERPENT >"Oh boy, I can't wait to kick Clanner butt!">All of his friends die >Gets mangled by an elemental almost clawing him out of his Archer>Somehow survives Operation SERPENT, returns to Northwind for an early retirement- Family's Archer is interred as an heirloom>Dies in 3067 due to health complications from SERPENT>Kiddos and grandkiddos join the Greywatch and First Kearny respectivelyAll n' all a good career. Wish I bought the canon character credit for the Clan Invasion kickstarter when it came out.
>>98219021Everyone in the game claiming hawaii are actually descended from haole's.
>>98219021imitating a chinese whispers version several hundred to thousands of years removed.imagine if tomorrow, the yookay had some wierd civil war, and the victors decided from then on they were going to be Lemureans, Atlanteans.
>>98219004It's extremely funny that you are triggered by the concept of native Hawaiians
>>98218883That'd be an interesting force to play. Loads of 4/5 SLDF lads, a few 3/4 Clan mechs and maybe a 2/3 Wolf commander. Lots of potential for fun /yourdudes/ shiz as well. I wish you well with the project
>>98219053>native hawaiiansThey're down to like 300 total and two thirds are homeless degenerates or live in the boonies of one of the sister islands. The hawaiians only schools have to keep allowing more blood dilution to keep their numbers up. It's pretty funny, imo. I think you can claim hawaiian heritage with as little as like 1/64th or some shit now.
Would a Clan Warrior use an Ares or Poseidon? Both require a crew of three to pilot it, two mechwarriors and an engineer. Ergo, any honor or glory earned would not belong to a single warrior. Would the Clans hate this idea and assign these mechs only to Freebirths? Some vehicles, like the Carnivore Assault Tank, require multiple people to operate and in Hour of the Wolf it seems like any glory earned or honorable deed carried out is shared by each member of the crew, so would an Ares be the same? I really want a Jade Falcon Ares but I'm not sure how it'd work in a Clan touman.
>>98219135old clans would consider them dezgra for sharing honor and allowing a non-warrior in the cockpitnu-clans probably do whatever the author wants, just like contractions and trying to be nice to the subjugated.Malvina did nothing wrong.
>>98219021>where dozens of different groups have decided to base their entire society around imitating a historic polity and then never changeThis list seem to start at "K" end at "M". It also contains exactly two entries. Plus, going by their House Book, actually wearing Kimono seems to be for extremely hardcore cosplayers and folks belonging to the very top of the crop elite only. No element of Kimono is present in military dress and harem pants and shirts seem to dominate civilian uniforms.>>98218992They at least went out on their way and actually gave Kamea the facial structures of a pacific islander. That their percentiles are mentioned specifically is an US thing, in any case.
>>98219135There was a prototype of the Poseidon that had single person cockpits that was scrapped. Clans may well try to revive that.Otherwise, the only use we know of that the Clans made use of them in (and it looks the only Superheavy Mech usage they've ever done) was Clan Wolf using only Bondsmen to pilot salvaged frames during the IlClan Trial.Speaking of Superheavies, I do find it hilarious that the only Superheavy sheets that exist came from either:A) The people who were in charge of TerraB) (April Fools) The Covenant-reference faction in the California Nebula with their 175 Tonner Scarab referenceI know it's technically non-canon, but its still funny they got a Superheavy literal years before any Great House or Clan made their own.
>>98219172>Otherwise, the only use we know of that the Clans made use of them in (and it looks the only Superheavy Mech usage they've ever done) was Clan Wolf using only Bondsmen to pilot salvaged frames during the IlClan Trial.Aye, in Hour of the Wolf you get a look at this (fuck that book was so awful you've no idea) and I'm thinking of just saying my JF Ares is piloted by Freebirths or something. I just NEED one since a Lambda Galaxy Ares will look fucking sweet.
It took 6 - 8 months for Stone's Coalition to defeat the Word of Blake. It took 3 for the Clans to defeat the Republic of the Sphere.Therefore, it has been proven the Word was superior to Stone's Dream.Lmao eat shit Republicans.
>>98219221I mean, if you only count Terra. Stone's Coalition was liberating worlds at the edge of the Word of Blake Protectorate 3 years before Operation Scour's push and liberation of Terra and there's several events in the Jihad that predate all of that, while stuff like the leadup to the Fortress Republic and the Wall cause their own odd calculations.
>>98219321Shut up. My mind is made up. Don't go trying to confuse me with facts.
>>98219221I wish we got more info on Jihad-era battle of Terra, or even just the Jihad in general :(
>>98219369Doesn't really matter anyway since they are going to retcon it so that the WoB won the Jihad.
>>98219381Would be based and kino-pilled
>>98219381Depending on how seriously you take Third Transfer, that may already be the case. It makes the creation of the Republic of the Sphere potentially something they planned to execute in some form if not in its specific form.If you take it as true, then the potential psy-op Devlin Stone did to Alaric Ward that's put Clan Wolf down the path of adopting Republic traditions because of their complete failure to implement Clan Society is just another step in the chain.The Republic subsuming Comstar and forcing them to give up their robes due to the "Blessed Order" events probably another indication of their plan for the Republic going rogue though. Especially with the collapse of HPGs in Grey Monday being something the Republic did with Clarion even when the Wobbies didn't do that in the Jihad.
>>98219020>how silly it is to claim a tiny population a thousand years in the future from a planet the last 5 generations of your family haven't even touchedAre you... new to battletech?>>98219004>>yes but what has the romans done fer us except the ...It's a funny sketch, but it was written by Br*ts. In actuality, more than half the things listed in the sketch were already there before Judea was occupied by the Romans. You think the Judeans couldn't build fucking roads or make wine? "Public order" is a laughable contribution from, you know, a violent invasion. It's a 20th-century satire of far-left politics written by people fantasizing about their own dying empire, not a history lesson.
>>98219433>being something the Republic did with Clarion even when the Wobbies didn't do that in the Jihad.In-universe theory not confirmed fyi
>>98213698I do hope so but I know it won't happen.>>98213710It's a shame that we won't get more WarShip rules/models; I'm a big fan of the Dreadnought and New Syrtis as well but all of them have a distinct charm about them.
Been catching up on some Lore, and I was wondering what your guys Favorite house is and why? I haven't played the table-top but I love MW5. Thematically I really like Steiner, but I hate how inept most of their personnel is due to nepotism, Their color-scheme is great too.Kurita is also sort of growing on me, their incorporation(subjugation) of Nordics make for some interesting diversity in their ranks, and I love that one dude you work with in Dragon's Gambit, he's so mad, and the VA does a great job of bringing him to life. Apologies if this count's as off-topic
If y'all were to make a faction to add into a future California Nebula or expand on one of the existing ones, what would you do?For reference, here's the ones that are in there already:"Welcome to the California Nebula">The Forgotten Kingdoms of Toreel (D&D - no datasheets but includes rules to convert from 3.5)>Star Empire and the People's Rebellion (Star Wars)>AutoBoPs vs DemoCons on Syberia (Transformers)>"Earth" (Mix of DC and Marvel)"Plenty of Room in the Nebula California">Wasteworld (Mix of Fallout, Mad Max, and other Post-Nuclear Apocalypses - some datasheets, no formal factions)>The Alpha Federation, Ramonan Republic, Clan Genn Empire, Gamman Dominion, and Kore Collective of Alpha-Beta-Gamma (Star Trek)>Cyberics and Battlecarrier Andromidae of Cobalt (Battlestar Galactica)>The Maethril Covenant, United Jordian Space Command, the First Ones and the Scourge (Halo)>The Eastern Axis, Northern Alliance, and Southern Pact of Atlantropa (WW2 world (slight Valkyria Chronicles vibe?), no datasheets, less than a page of flavor)>Barsuum (Steampunk, includes Battlemechs, no real details)>Eighthworld (Shadowrun, no details on factions, does mention Goblin Plague)>Pantheos and Dunya (Stargate-esque setup with one world with high tech worshiped as gods by the second low tech world, no real details beyond)Reference Note: Toreel, "Earth", Eightworld, and Pantheos are all recorded to have broad magical phenomina (Pantheos is limited to in-atmosphere).Reference Note 2: In the above, K-F tech is only present with Alpha-Beta-Gamma and Cobalt and have limited jump ranges of about 0.5 LY compared to wider Battletech's 30 LY.
>>98219592Favourite Inner Sphere Faction:Republic of the Sphere, but if we're doing with factions that have been around for the majority of the game, Lyran Commonwealth or Free World's LeagueFavourite Clan:Fire MandrillFavourite Periphery Faction:Marian Hegemony Factions I play:Republic of the SphereWord of BlakeSpirit Cats
>>98219614>Factions I play:I also painted up my mate's Marian Hegemony and he uses them against my WoB so that might count, it's at least a faction I've painted
>>98219592I like the Steiners and the Davions, but the sheer amount of glaze FedCom can get generally soured me on them and the component nations enough that I can't put them at the top. The Capellans and Liao weren't an area I was a fan of anyway, but all the plot armor they got due to being kicked in the dick early on soured me on them even more making them my least liked. Rassalhauge was generally created just to fall to the Clans so overall neutral on them. Draconis Combine and Kurita are assholes, but they're fun with their villainy so they place towards the top even if they can't claim the number 1.This overall puts the Free Worlds League and House Marik at the top for the Inner Sphere for me. They're roughly in that right mix of fucking up and getting wins that puts them in a good spot, though I do wish they'd get a couple more good ones. I don't want Capellan levels of plot armor, but after they got completely shattered. I get it was somewhat deserved for Thomas Marik/The Master being the key creator of the Jihad, but they still need to get a solid win after that beyond the ability to just exist again.
>>98219592The Lyrans train some great pilots; they're one of the factions that actually take military science semi-seriously. The nepotism applies mostly to the officers higher than captain, which is why they're similar to the Capellans in having skilled warriors executing shit plans.The great thing about the Lyrans is that they're the only successor nation smart enough to value peaceful leadership, but they're still not smart enough to clock that Katherine is a psychopath. Katrina and Melissa were legitimately the nicest Successor Lords in generations, though. The Combine is actually a lot more diverse than you resize. Actual Japanese people are a minority, with most Asian blood coming from China and Southeast Asia. Something like a third of the Combine, especially near the Davion border, are Indians, and the Combine also has the largest known Arab community (look up the Arkab Legions). And, as you say, all the Nordics near the Lyran border, though they tend to be the least ruly and keep trying to detect or declare independence. The Lyrans are my favorite "good guy" great house for being the most sane despite the corruption (they provide the highest standard of living and social benefits this side of the Taurian Concordat, AKA Redneck Switzerland). The Dracs are my favorite "bad guy" fashion, since they're comically evil but also have the sickest cosplay aesthetics with the whole "Imperial Japan samurai culture" thing. I have painted up both a force of Izanagi Warriors and Ghost Regiments (Yakuza). I never found a Lyran scheme I like, but I do have a force of Kell Hounds, which are basically the same thing anyway.
>>98215626I wish they'd do a vid about all the other ships they did. Ghost Bear DLC had a few more warships aerospace and even small craft types appear.>>98219588They keep threatening an aerotech rework but I doubt will see more warships unless Davionman gets Herb. Its sad that they didn't do more ships in the style of the Kyushu. Pretty sure a ship that could hot drop a regiment onto a contested planet was a recipe for fun.>>98219592House O'Reilly for point >>98215249
>New starter is set in ilclan era>No inferno or dominatorCringe
>>98219703You will get bear and shark and like it!
>>98219703>>98219719Let's not pretend the two mechs in the starter set aren't ballers. Everyone I know will be getting multiple boxes for the Kontio alone.
>>98219730>>98219719I meant the big starter box
>>98219746Core box you mean? Saying sharter box makes people think of something different.
I'm really happy we're getting a plastic Rakshasa at last!
>>98219746Ah, the Core Box, not the Starter Box. Which of the mechs would you replace with an Inferno or Dominator then, anon?For quick ref of what's in there.>Hollander>Rakshasa>Solitaire>Uziel>Mad Cat Mk II>Vulture Mk IV Prime>Regent>Eris
>>98219786Vulture and mad cat
>>98219805I have waited years for a Mad Cat Mk II. I will fight to keep it.Replace the Regent instead; it's good, but there's already a way to get it.
>>98219832But regent is new atlas/mad cat, its on all the box art! Seriously what is with that, its not a particularly distinctive mech.
>>98219655Fuck the capellans now and forever. China sucks.
The Mad Cat MKII and Rakasha both come in that spot of you really want plastic kits, but damn if they don't look really similar to each other due to being Timber Wolf descendants.It sorta feels like you want them each to be the Timber Wolf-esque reps of their own boxes but Battletech isn't big enough for them to do that on a close enough timescale to satisfy people, especially with how long the wait already is.
>>98219837The Regent is a neat worldbuilding detail, since it was created by a collaboration of Lyrans and Leaguers, with the communication being facilitated by the Sharks. I get why it's being pushed as a symbol of the era, even if it's (literally, in-setting) a rehash of older concepts.I do think it's interesting that they're including a lot of Clan Invasion/Civil War-era mechs in the box, though. For a product ostensibly meant for the ilClan, it also helps pad out forces with popular 'mechs from much older eras.I guess they're hoping for players who like the 3060s to pick up the box, and then figure they might as well paint a force for the ilClan era as well.
>>98219889Liao were more interesting when they weren't space China.
>>98219897Rakshasa: we have Mad Cat at homeMad Cat Mk II: hello there, fellow Spheroids! Would you like an even bigger Mad Cat at home?>>98219906My least favorite thing about post-80s BattleTech is how they leaned into flat stereotypes for entire space nations that were previously diverse. It leads to things like Romano being turned from a ginger to an actual Asian, and people not even realizing that the Combine is weebs and not actual Japanese people.
>>98219925Say what you will, but the weebs built a hell of a scrappy star empire
>>98219959Like I said in an earlier comment, I think they're hilarious, and I painted multiple companies of them.They're the most successful weebs in space.
>>98219837Regent is absolutely fuck ugly though and really not a good poster child mech. Hell it doesn't even come with a fucking cigar like the Hauptmann does and thus has no swag!>>98219925I really hate what they did with the Great Houses as well. Previously each were made of at least three main ethnicities to them but they took that away and made it more about the people than the culture which was a mistake.
>>98220006>more about the people than the culture which was a mistakeIt doesn't even make sense. There's no way that two fifth of humanity is fucking Germans and French.I wonder when this trend started. CGL are at the very least continuing it, but I don't have a good grasp of the history of it.And it's like... look, unlike some people here, I'm all for diversity, and I think it's silly that 4/5 successor lords in 3025 were functionally white (Katrina isn't pale enough to be considered). But by turning them all into the ethnicity associated with the dominant culture and then treating the nations as monolithic, they're increasing visible diversity at the cost of DECREASING the actual diversity of the setting.
>>98220026>Germans and FrenchWorse...some of them are...English!
>>98220026>There's no way that two fifth of humanity is fucking Germans and French.Your nose and/or brown is showing.
>>98220026They removed the diversity they had only to try and shoehorn it in the most hamfisted way possible which typically is how most "diversity" approaches go these days.I still can't get over the Combine having a large section of Arab weebs which frankly is a statement that has aged like a fine wine.
Roughs for the draconic semi-portable, blazer and laser rifle.I really think lasers are the weapon that can actually do corner-shots, so all of them will get the equipment for it. Just the level of sophistication will naturally ...vary... across the IS, with the Kuritas getting the Chinese/Commie take. They aren't the ones who got the 80s "superior japanese electronics"-memes after all.The semi-portable got a Twin Reflex Camera screen for Aliens Smart Gun-style hip-fire from a gyro harness.
>>98220052Even worse, there is an over representation of Scots in Battletech! You got the German-Scots, Chinese-Scots, fucking Scots-Scots!
>>98220052What are English if not Germans who were infected by French?>>98220064Arabs, Israelis, and Latinos are the biggest weebs I've ever met in real life. Does anyone know where the Latinos ended up in the Sphere? North Mexicans ended up in the Trinity, but I don't know about the rest.
>>98219592>their incorporation(subjugation) of Nordics make for some interesting diversity in their ranksBro, they have Irish ninja clans and Tuareg-imitators.
>>98220068Looks a bit like the phaser rifles from the TNG films?>>98220076>Where did the latinos end up?All over the place. Know FWL had a contingent of Spanish speakers but not sure where from as I think they do have more of a Med influence.
>>98220061Sounds more like a lib dem voting anglo to me.
>>98219959>>98219986Yeah, the Combine have a particular vibe in a way that Liao has never achieved with the Space China direction >>98219906 anon has mentioned.
>>98219906They should slavmaxx
>>98219901>>98219837>>98220006Isn't the Regent/Awesomemann Shimmy's OC? And thus a product of these threads in some degenerate way?
>>98219135No Clan mechwarrior who passed his trial of position will touch that thing. But they are the elite and ideal, the five-ish percent of sibko cadets who make it. Washouts with a particularly developed skillset, say a god-like gunner who can't keep a 'mech upright and another who's the reverse, would probably take the second chance at being a warrior even over something like driving a tank.It certainly won't be glorious, but then again the Ares does not exactly fit with the Falcons' favored modes of warfare either. To Clan eyes it's a third-rate machine crewed by third-rate personnel doing slow, shitty jobs true Falcons are too fast and valuable for.
>>98220187I swear, this website is just as obsessed with celebrities as any normie, except that the celebrities are obscure and you hate them. Yes, the Regent is a hybrid, as explained in >>98219901. And it's a great bit of environmental storytelling, so I don't give a fuck who wrote it, but it's a good thing regardless.
>>98220179>>98219906The Cappies should lean into the Command&Conquer/Red Alert memes.
Clans are a bit cringe
>>98220330They're also kind of based.
>>98220255>I intend to escape to the place not yet corrupted by Davions, space!
>>98219135>Multi-user mechDo you think Hell’s Horses would be more likely to try using their Tankwarrior phenotype for this? They’re pretty used to working in crewed vehicles anyways, no?
>>98220596Possibly. Maybe tankwarrior-mechwarrior teaming.
Still waiting for a hells horses superheavy hovercraft for mongolmaxxing
>>98220661Alaric would shit himself
>>98220687Due to the mech or his inbred genetics?
>>98220661Still waiting for the Hell's Horses-Star League War they've been setting up since Hour of the Wolf in 2021.
>>98220687Is malvina in the room with us right now?
>>98220966They decided to have them job to two different nothingburger jade falcon remnants instead including the one led by merchants, completely destroying any sense of them being a credible threat to anyone.
>>98220966>>98221011The Horses were NEVER a threat to anyone, and anyone who thought differently was coping out of their mind. They have two shticks: tanks and failure.
>>98221073This. The Horses are a dumping ground for unit types that will be removed from play in the future.
>>98221073That's the issue. The idea of the star league "going to war" against Hell's Horses is a joke, you dont go to war a against a coughing baby.
LOL SUCH COPETHE HORSES WILL MAKE ALARIC WARD, ANASTASIA KERENSKY AND THE SLDF THEIR BITCHES! THE NEXT FIRST LORD WILL BE A HELL'S HORSE!WATCH THIS SPACE, FAGGOTS!
>>98220503Would be pretty based of them to expand their Lebensraum with space colonies, actually.
Huh, we might get tiles folks
>>98221153Literally the opposite of what everyone said.
>>98221192Are you slow, anon?
>>98218883SLDF Protomechs will look sweeeeet. Green and yellow Protos will black/dark metallic weapons will be kino.
>>98221162I could swear there was one in one of the Camacho's CAballeros books, or at least a hollow asteroid.
>>98220503>>98221162>Cappies build space colonies>Fedrats take them and make a better version along with 1/4 of their worlds
>>98221162These sorts of colonies are peak sci-fi and I love them.
>>98221195I do have brain damage.
I like the Hells Horses, fuck that inbread discord mod LARPing as the king of the Universe
what's a good hetzer refit?I've got a few configs and need opinions:1: ac20 replaced with a salvaged mrm40 with 4tons of ammo liberated from a Combine storage facility, a machine gun in a sponson turret on right and left side with a half ton of shared ammo2: ac20 replaced with 7 Rocket Launcher 20's
>>98221300Give it a B-Lazer
>>98221304binary or bombast?
>>98221258It looks like a sewage tube, which is a threat to septic tanks everywhere in the Federate Suns.
>>98221300cUAC20, XXL engine for 5/8 movement, 11 tons of vehicular stealth armor, light active probe.Costs merely twenty times as much as a baseline Hetzer.
>>98221331Bombast
>>98221336If people imagine that they require proper sewage and sanitation to live, they should just buy a ticket to the Lyran Commonwealth and leave the good, honest, hard-working citizens of the Federated Suns to live close to nature, as god (and their noble overlords) intended.We pay them enough for a ticket, right?
>>98221300It's not a Hetzer if it has more than one gun. Give it a TB20, Blazer, Snub+Cap, or a LVSP.
>>98221300PPC-X
>>98221300stick an Arrow IV with Davy Crocket munitions in it and give the kell hounds ptsd flashbacks
>>98221247>>98221258There are already inhabited space colonies.
>>98221300Clan XXL engine, 8/12/0 movement profile, 5 tons of ferro-fibrous either Clan or IS, Clan ER PPC+Cap, Angel ECM also either Clan or IS
I like the Champion
>>98221475You probably like Mondays too.
>>98219837It's better AWS and I like it.
>>98221529I do
>>98219221>Lmao eat shit Republicans.Fuck you too liberal pinko commie. Trump is making America Great Again and you never will.
>>98221162Space habs are so underutilized in sci-fi.It feels like only Gundam of all things really has them in any significant number
>>98221258Would WoB drop them on planets though?
>>98221661You aren't going to bother with space habs when most of your planets have between one to three continents untouched by man.
>>98221728That's not realistic thoughever
>>98221683No, that's House propaganda and projection. My guess is that more than half of the shit WoB is accused of was Successor Houses doing but they had scape goat to blame everything for.
>>98221661>>98221728This. To my limited knowledge, Gundam doesn't have the wealth of real estate that the Spheroids are working with.
>>98221801Think about how much empty land there is on earth now, then remember that even very high population planets top out at half our numbers. There are plenty of planets with fewer people than a modern mid size country.
>>98221851Exactly. Most planets like the early English settlement in North America--a few farmers clustered together, and a mining company on the other side of the planet.
>>98221192He was saying this is what's going to happen and that everyone else was coping by denying it. You're retarded.
The space habitats just don't really matter to the plot. They're there though. The belters are entirely space based and there are places like Gulf Breeze.
>>98221998There's also places like Butte Hold :D
>>98222003Isn't Butte Hold just a regular star system with planets?
>>98222010hehehehehehe you said it
>>98222022Byoot?
Hell's Horses are supreme fuck you all
>>98218736Gotta say Comstar and the Word of Blake were done dirty being destroyed outright when shit like Smoke Jaguar and the Eridani Light Horse make a comeback so I always love hearing of remnants. Also implications of possible infighting are fun.As an aside, the guy who first proposed the questions I'm heavily leaning towards the "Death's Head Hussars" getting all bondsmaned. Gist of the aftermath currently being>Entire regiment with four "squadrons" each on different worlds>Can't make an escape with assets divided and Hanseatic League won't help them ditch them>Fight well, suffer over 70% casualties but end up as bondsmen>Scorpion Empire throws them all into a single cluster, the 11th Hussar Cluster "Death's Head">Keep some heraldry and outside of Scorpions to fill holes in the aerospace and battle armor roles pretty much no outsiders at first>Add a handful of bloodnames to the breeding program partially because former SLDF and good fighters, partially so they can stock the cluster with trueborns raised to believe in the Scorpion Empire and not a bunch of resentful outsiders and their freeborn kidsAlso due to background and the fact that I named the first gen members of the regiment after commanders of the 11th Armored Cavalry regiment the three bloodnames added to the breeding program are Abrams (One of Creighton Abrams' sons led the 11th ACAV), Patton (George S. Patton's son led the 11th ACAV), and Truscott (captured and integrated some Star Adders in a failed raid that canonically resulted in two clusters being annihilated).
>>98222155>Word of Blake were done dirty being destroyed outright when shit like Smoke Jaguar and the Eridani Light Horse make a comeback so I always love hearing of remnantsNeo-Blakists and Mot's Manei Domini still exist. Don't lose hope!
>The SRM-6 is upgraded to 3 x Streak SRM-2’s with a single ton of ammoWhy the hell is this an 'upgrade?'
>>98222166>Same damage>More likely to hit>Won't waste ammo on missesI mean it's practically a lateral move in practice, but there's at least justification.
>>98222166Depending on when it was written, that enables infernos.
>>98222174I dunno, for something like AC2 or SRM2 you'd want to waste ammo ASAP IMO
>>98222166Streaks and LB-Xs only had one variant each when they were added. Streak-6s were Clantech that were reverse engineered post-war.
>>98218870Falcons also exterminated their scientist caste. Only spheroid scientists were spared.
>>98222198I don't care when it was written. I care if it's good now.
>>982224383 streak 2s is much more reliable damage on target than 1 SRM 6. A lot of story happens between the IS getting streak 2s and them getting larger streaks.
Aside from the Jags and Turtle Bay, has anyone warcrimed the Dracs? Did Malvina ever attack the Combine?
>>98222010BUTTE HOLD SUNWON'T YOU COMEAND WASH AWAY THE RAINBUTTE HOLD SUNBUTTE HOLD SUN
>>98222166Battletech is not a very well designed ruleset is why.
>>98222489Sure, the entire first two succession wars, lots of Jihad stuff. The Snow Ravens bombed Galedon's cities and then captured refugees who were carrying a bioweapon that had been unleashed by earlier unrelated fighting, which then also reached An Ting and both worlds are dead now. Galedon would have been dead anyway since that bioweapon is the most powerful one ever made, but compounding a new war crime on top of a self-inflicted war crime doesn't reduce the number of war criminals.
>>98222489During the Jihad, the Ravens Exterminatus'd a whole planet after giving it a mere few days to evacuate. While it was in response to a (perceived) provocation, it was a huge overreaction.>>98222521Yeah, that's not how it's pronounced. Sorry, mate.
>>98222456Technically even 3 normal SRM2s is more reliable damage on a target than a single 6. Even discounting the fact that all three are unlikely to miss, meaning practically guaranteed damage every turn, the 2 cluster table is actually the best cluster table, where the average value is 1.417, or 70.8% of the max value. The 6 cluster table is only an average damage of 4, or 66.7%. Which, while minor, is still 4.25 average damage compared to 4, or a gain of 6.3% for the same weight.Is 6.3% extra damage worth the one extra crit slot? Probably, unless you're already full on slots from endo and fibrous and whatnot, especially since it protects from stray crits.
>>98222174>>98222166In addition to the introduction dates, 3 Streak-2s can be split between targets too; not that I fully recommend it. You also trade your cluster roll for 3 hit rolls. The results are:- Your pilot's gunnery decides the number of hits and never gets fucked on cluster, meaning a better gunnery score improves the chances of slamming your pairs of missiles.- Your Streaks don't fire on a miss, making for no wasted ammo or heat.Would a Streak-6 be better? Maybe. The heat's lower, but the 6 goes or doesn't making it more all or nothing. 3 Streak 2s is substantially cheaper in Cbills though.
