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News & Reminders:
No more multi-queue for Arena Directs - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/arena-direct


Spoilers for next sets:
https://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-set/marvel-super-heroes/
https://scryfall.com

Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA
https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge/releases

TQ: Now that they're going away, how did you feel about Through the Omenpaths?
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I would have been perfectly fine with OM1, outside of some of the more outrageous designs that felt really forced; hell, I've always wanted to get a Spider tribal deck together so this could've been good
But those dumb dumb dumb Hero/Villain/Cocksucker types completely ruined it for me, I can't take them seriously
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>suddenly ever niggertroon started using this fag
lmao these syphiliticbrained retarded yids are such frauds
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Pretty solid sealed deck. Need to make 6 cuts.
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>>98220587
this will go 0-50
you got none of the ramp pieces and none of the payoffs
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>Enemy ropes

they think it's making me made but it just makes me happy they're so tilted they decided to throw a tantrum lol
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>>98220587
you don't have fixing for three colors, I'd drop the white cards, landscape painter, rubble rouser, and resonating lute
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>>98221071
you sound mad
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>*makes control fags panic*
He is so based
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Jay, bo3 mythic!

It was somewhat hard this time. Matchup engine went bananas, causing counter matches, so I had to modify landfall deck a little.
It's rigged so that you get to play the same general deck until you prove that you can beat it, then it gives you another one. This forces constant deck manipulation, but it's somewhat predictable.
So I'd fill my starting deck with 4x counter mana spells like Disdainful Stroke and Flashfreeze against Jeskike. Annul and Essence Scatter against white lifelink and black Anex deck. 4x Hydra against Sunderflock since it doesn't bounce, etc... Sadly it wasn't satifying winning against Jeskikes, since they practically vanished from my play que as soon as I demolished them a few times.
Fat Elf was late addition, but did manage to decide a few matches.
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>>98221267
His axe is a stick with a leaf lmao what the fuck is wrong with this game
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>>98220587
>mfw playing wg in the midweek sealed
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I was having fun with FF limited
Then the 2-3 happened and I'm outta gems again, piece of shit opponent had more Auracites than I have hopes for the future
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>>98219940
>going away
Pls no. I thought i can still use the omenpaths art over capeshit.
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>>98221611
>I thought i can still use the omenpaths art over capeshit.
You still can.
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>>98220587
I got the most disgusting sealed pool
I can casually drop to about 3 life and come back no problem
ark of hunger is so fucking busted, and having 2 out at once is just instascoop for the other guy
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rewarding
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>>98222249
that's vile
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>>98222265
super easy 3-0 lol
freest MWM ever
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>>98220587
>>98222249
;^
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>>98222249
my pool is legit terrible half my rares were off color lands, I don't think I'm going to win a single game
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Why did urza's post get deleted
Is he evading again
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you think the putrid, diseased mind of a jeskike would even know WHY their brains are about to get bashed outside of their rotten skulls as they play their faggot nigger netdeck for the last time?

haha of course not
if they had any sort of introspection they would have fucking roped themselves a long time ago
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>>98222619
You'll be fine. Midweek is not that competitive, a lot of people never even play limited. I did 6-2 with this crap.
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>>98221267
>implying anything destroy creatures nowadays
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>>98223060
He's got a gf (female) and needs $1000 for his arena account to kickstart his drug kingpin empire. Competing cartels are afraid of his plans and have bribed /tg/ jannies.
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>>98219940
i fucking hate omen paths
if everyone and their grandma can go between planes as they please, why, pray tell, should i give a shit about different planes at all?
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I'm not sure why someone would let their deck run out. If I'm playing this deck betting on me getting bored is a mistake. Went down to like -7000 until his deck ran dry
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>>98224068
what deck is that?
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>>98224068
>playing black but not having anything to exile or -/- one flyign 6/6

lel
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>>98224137
just bo1 things
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>install again just to scratch the itch
>just want to have fun in brawl
>bear
>bear
>bear again
>bear
>bear
yeah no wonder this game's failing
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>lost to a (and I'm not exaggerating) 15/15 vigilance flier on turn 4 in Bloomburrow draft
>stomach almost hurts with how much I laughed
I see now, why this game appeals to the mentally ill
If I wanted to play slot machines, I'd install some gooner gacha so at least I'd get to see some titties
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First time Mythic.

Do you think this will be enough to finish top 1,200 if I stop playing now?
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>>98224580
lol no, your rank decreases with time. you need to engage a sweatshop to compete with other sweasthops that play 24hr a day.
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WIZARD KIKES STOP FLOODING ME WITH LANDS
WIZARD KIKES STOP FLOODING ME WITH LANDS
WIZARD KIKES STOP FLOODING ME WITH LANDS
WIZARD KIKES STOP FLOODING ME WITH LANDS
WIZARD KIKES STOP FLOODING ME WITH LANDS
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Despite being a redditor, urza is worthy of some respect for being a /mtgag/ oldfag
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>>98223760
I eventually got the wins but it was brutal, I think it went like 3-6. I stopped counting the losses.
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what's the most toxic deck i can build
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I don't think i can stomach seeing marvelniggers in my game bros.... the turtles killed about 60% of my enthusiasm for this game and the fact we're getting straight up marvel with no omenpath branding is too much :'(
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>>98225548
jeskai control
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>>98225558
Just play timeless, there probably won't be any marvelslop strong enough to make the cut in the format
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>>98225548
4C control, Jeskai lessons, Azorius Stax
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lmao, first time someone conceded after *he* T1 duressed me. My hand wasn't even good
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I am new as fuck. Literally 20 hours of magic played. I made this. How horrible is it?
I think it has too much... mana pumps? For not enough Big Niggas, you know what I mean?
I just wanted to play elves
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>>98226322
I did that a few times. You just don't have anything in your hand, and hope that opponent doesn't have anything as well. Then you see their hand, and scoop.
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>>98226465
cute, but yeah, something like craterhoof would give you a wincon
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>>98226465
usually elves want to be snowballing elf "lords" which is mtg jargon for a creature that gives +1/+1 to creatures of the same type. typically they cost around three mana.
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>>98226465
You'll learn the ropes with it.
Bushwack is versatile, you can throw your deathtouch units at opponents threads. If you pack Bite Down style spells your units will survive. Just don't go dumping rare and mythics wildcards into this deck, it's not worth it in the long run. Elves are subpar even when played with the best possible cards available.
You can add Unholy Annex, it's staple of all black based decks. A few changelings will fit as well. Firdoch Core is played a lot with Annex lately. All changelings benefit from elves synergies and count for Annexe's demon requirement as well. Then you can slowly transform your deck into a top green/black or mono black deck. Or you add Badgers and go into a kind of green landfall.
Check for decks around Serpet Society when Marvel drops. It may give Poison Counters decks a life. Virulent Silencer is already available, so maybe something opens on that front. Thought, with everyone packing board removal and various non target removal spell, it'll be a long shot.
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>>98226465
What is your favorite of the standard dual color decks so far?
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>>98226839
I like the Red/Blue one the most :)

inb4 "you're a faggot nigger"
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>>98226927
The only faggot niggers are the ones playing the braindead White/Black vampire deck, you're alright.
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>>98226465
Play and lurk more before posting newfag
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I don't think they liked that
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>>98224457
nvm I reinstalled
F U C K
I hate it
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yup, it's chilling time
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>>98228541
>>98224457
if a mediocre/bad turn 4 kill hurt you, you need to run. there will come a day that I am allowed to play flash hulk on arena and on that day, I will. we already have gemstone cavern.
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>>98229308
You clearly missed the part where this was in Limited, QD even, where you usually get worse decks on average because the bots are fucking retards who snag rares for no reason other than to fuck you over; I stay the fuck away from boomer constructed formats specifically because I wanna avoid the riveting gameplay of "Let's see who draws their instawin combo first"
15/15 fliers on t4 in Limited are usually pretty rare in my experience, especially since BLB isn't even a super powerful set
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hm today i will play some magic
>black panther splash screen
hm maybe not
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>>98229364
little bro
this week I was playing storm in S E A L E D >>98222426

bloomburrow was not a low-power set and losing to simple go-wide or simple go-big is entirely on you not on the game
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>>98229391
Bar drawing removal (which I did have x4 in my deck, since I was playing B) within those initial 6+3 cards (had to mulligan once), there is absolutely nothing I could've done
Had I removed his engine, he would have hit me with the 15/15, and had I removed the big boy he would have kept making one each turn
Just admit the game's a slot machine due to its very nature and we'll both be happy: skill matters to a point, but some games are absolutely and utterly unwinnable (without bringing up the rigged shuffler schizoposting, that does not concern me)
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>>98229524
it's not a slot machine
it's a pinball machine
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Are you celebrating black people day today?
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>>98229703
>Zimone
Cute, but fuck those look-at-me glasses.
>Viv
Would, if not for the full eyeglow. Give her regular pale green or hazel irises and I'd be on board.
>Kaya
Smug, but not on cute anime girl, so hard pass.
>Dan
Side-shave. No.
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>>98229703
I unironically would Zimone with the force of X, where X is defined as e^4Sum[(-1)^n(arcsin(ln(4))^75n+1/(2n+2)!),n,0,∞]+ln(2.625)

>>98229660
Yea because everyone else is just busting my balls
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>>98225548
Infect
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Damn, opponent somehow cut my electricity just before I killed him
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>opening hand is shit
>lose without any recourse
great game niggards
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>>98230706
>opening hand is goated and you're playing some nigger ungabunga aggro deck
>win without any possible counterplay
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>>98221071
Butthurt detected lmao.
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>pull half my deck
>get graveyard hate RIGHT AFTER the graveyard nigger's main play
>still come out on top
>rope him into obliteration until he concedes
eat my shit faggot
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>>98230028
Good post
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why do people take as long as they possibly can at all times to play their hand
what do you gain from this
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>>98232117
>it's another episode of "monoG landfall subhuman waits until the end of your first turn before cracking his fetchland"
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>>98232144
its about sending a message
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>>98232117
Because I'm new to MTG and really stupid, I need time to read all the descriptions
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>>98232144
Punish them with a one mana spell they will probably scoop.
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Emeritus spells. Can you kill creature before the spell is cast?

Example: Emeritus of Idiots (blue one, with hexproof 2 and instant 3 card draw spell)
A. Emeritus enters, is imediately killed. Spell can still be cast?
B. Emeritus enters, spell is cast, Emeritus is killed. What happens?
C. Emeritus enters, Emeritus is killed, spell is cast before it's killed, Emeritus is killed again, hexproof mana isn't paid. What happens???
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>>98235378
depends on the spell. instants can be cast before the removal effect happens, sorceries probably cannot but there may be exceptions, I haven't looked closely at the mechanic
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>>98235378
So long as the creature is prepared and on the battlefield, a copy of the spell exists in exile and can be cast with the relevant timing restrictions.

A) Ancestral recall can be cast in response to the kill spell, but cannot be cast once the Emeritus is in the graveyard.
B) Ancestral Recall will be on the stack, any actions taken afterwards will resolve, and then it will resolve. Once it's on the stack it doesn't matter what happens to the Emeritus
C) Same as B
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>>98235378
If the spell was cast, it works as if it was cast from hand so it doesn't "care" if the creature is killed between cast and resolution. So in case B and C opponent draws 3.
For A, since the spell is an instant opponent can cast it in response to you killing the creature, so opponent also draws 3.


But note that even if the spell was a sorcery, you don't get an opportunity (called "priority") to remove the creature between the creature entering and opponent casting the prepared spell if that's the first thing he does*.

*but if there something else happening, like a trigger for the creature entering then you can kill the creature, preventing the prepared being cast if it's a sorcery
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Reinstalled arena for cube, I had forgotten just how unique some of the gamers on this program are.
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this guy is my GOAT
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>>98235974
I can't unsee T H A T proxy whenever I see this art
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>>98235688
>But note that even if the spell was a sorcery, you don't get an opportunity (called "priority") to remove the creature between the creature entering and opponent casting the prepared spell if that's the first thing he does*.

>*but if there something else happening, like a trigger for the creature entering then you can kill the creature, preventing the prepared being cast if it's a sorcery

I think that's what's happening. So, even with sorceries, if you've enough mana, you can cast prepared spell immediately as unit enters, and prepared spell will resolve, unless opponent can counterspell it!?

It's either that, or I'm playing idiots. My PhatChinkElf is doing havoc on people.
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>>98236129
arena has some... nuance in cases where priority becomes important
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new metric
we measure decks by how often and how long you get roped
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>start playing ranked
>start seeing some bullshit combos
I miss honest mtg :(
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>>98236783
yeah me too
lets go back
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>>98236814
It's just
Dude played some Lightspeed bullshit at the top left corner of the screen that made incomprehensible gacha lootbox opening VFX whenever he attacked me
like what the fuck is even going on
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>>98236829
this shit
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You must be new here
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I'm tired of constant Izzet bullshit
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So I completed the color challenge all five with the decks and got all the starter decks.
I thought I was supposed to get some jump in tokens? but if that's not the case
I think I must have did the sparkys challenge because I have ranked unlocked and cannot seem to find it.

Do I just grind dailies, open my packs, and try to build a deck now for ranked now?
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>>98237468
Options (gear icon; upper right hand corner) > Account (bottom left in the menu) > Unlock Play Modes
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>>98237485
>>98237468
Thank you. Now I got my 5 jump in tokens
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>>98236829
it has been a wrooooooong universe sort of day my man, not just for you
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Whats the best site to look up meta decks for mtga formats? Every site I try seems to just covers paper deck lists.
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>>98237654
https://mtgazone.com/ is decent but standard/pioneer meta is similar enough that you can use MTGgoldfish or whatever else is pulling tournament results.
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crafted this jeskai lessons deck because it was only 3 rare wildcards and the only thing i queue into is the 4c control and its literally impossible to win once they deadly cover up my jeskai revs
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Saw masters of the universe
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>>98238121
Didn't Arena get busted for rigging match making like this a couple years ago.
>a bug revealed that decks are algorithmically weighted based on the deck's composition.
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Reminder the most sovlful manual Storm Brawl deck is Urabro
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>>98238121
Good, maybe next time you will play something less cancerous
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How do you respond without sounding mad
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>>98236129
You are correct that there is no priority passed between a creature resolving and being able to cast its prepared spell unless theres some trigger that happens when the creature enters. Just a quirk of the game and there is nothing your opponent can do.
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>>98239044
Just blast the shit. Looks like you'd be up on cards and with a low mana white deck, I'd bet you could deny anything they try to do until you get a smashy boy of your own out on the field. Heart of the cards, bruh.
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>>98236829
>like what the fuck is even going on

honesty
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>>98239044
yo nigga them jordans is tight *wipes ur board* with one card and establishes permanent card advantage
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>>98239284
>shock the bird
>he plays any creature with lifelink to block with
>or he plays sanctifier
>his whole board gets +4/+4
I don't think monoR is equipped to deal with this, let alone going second
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>>98239044
concede
why waste time
or rope for as long as possible
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>>98236829
everyone just pretends that eatherdrift never happened
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>>98239712
Just cast Screaming Nemesis, shock is. Easy win.
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>>98239044
>Mono-Red
>One mana kill cards
I'd be disgusted, but I'm too busy counter spelling everything with my Dimir deck. You either die a hero...
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>play bloomburrow draft
>get ok deck
>game 1
>going 2nd
>4 islands, 3 green spells
>mulligan
>3 forests, 1 island, 3 blue spells
>rakdos lizards player kills me on turn 4
>game 2
>going 2nd
>5 forests, 2 blue spells
>mulligan
>5 islands, 2 green spells
>boros mice kills me turn 3
>game 3
>going 2nd
>2 forests 2 islands a 4 mana removal and both counterspells
>don't dare mulligan
>die on turn 4 anyway

I love wasting 5k gold because the fucking rigged shuffler just decides to give me completely unplayable hands the entire draft
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So does this game 100% have a rigged shuffler and matchmaking just like Hearthstone?
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>>98240643
Evidence supports this claim, but not like going to Tournies in person is much better...
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>>98240643
Yes. Not as bad, though.
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>>98239733
yes that's why I have no face

>>98239876
Half the decks in bo1 instawin on turn 4 (le otters, reanimator, beastie, monoB aggro, le space snek, monoW enchantments) while the other half never actually wins the game (jeskai, azorius, monoB discard, golgari circlejerk)
So I play an honest deck that either wins by turn 3 or it scoops
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what retard developer made it so that full control turns off between turns
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>All my cards were just automatically replaced with the Marvel versions
REEEEE my deck theme is ruined I had to spend time manually changing it.
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>>98241163
The same one that refuses to let you set stops consistently. I do think there's a deeper setting that'll maintain full control all the time but they might've axed that.
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>>98240643
Allegedly in best-of-one games the shuffler makes two hands and gives you the one with the better land/spell distribution, but there are no other modifications. God only knows though.
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>>98240212
so apparently I was wasting my gold regardless since people say bloomburrow was a dogshit format
I only do limited until I get silver each month, and I was 1 win off it after doing an avatar draft with the discount draft token a weeks back and I didn't want to save 10k gold for FF

should've just sucked it up I guess
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>>98240643
No that's schizobabble
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>>98241904
I had fun in bloomburrow limited but I also force-drafted rabbits something like eight times
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>>98239862
Creamy nemesis is banned lmao.
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Back to /historic/ for this week
Also I'll draft capeshit I guess
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>>98240643
If both players have a rigged shuffle then who gives a shit
If you think jotc wrote a complex enough code to figure in whether you bought boosters recently or knows enough about the metagame to intentionally put you against bad matchups you are giving them WAY too much credit
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>>98240643
Yes, in many different ways. People have been able to datamine shit like the shuffler algorithm and the card weight value for Brawl. You get matched vs harder opponents if you pick a meta commander or fill your deck with strong staples
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NUxfvRGw_dofRmduo9lrvH5oUhqj4I6G1QsqhZvRL20/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Devs themselves have even admitted to the game having rigged matchmaking and hand smoothing. The typical forced 50/50 W/L bullshit that every game has nowadays.

The hand smoothing algorithm is abusable. In aggro decks running exactly 13 lands nets you way better hands than what an actual random shuffler would.

Running alternate wincon decks is the easiest way to spot the matchmaker rigging. The game will try to pair you vs people running cards that hard counter your alt wincon. The easiest to spot is when going on a winstreak with a mill deck the game will try to find opponents playing decks with more than 60 cards.

The game also has cheating bot opponents to force a loss. They are easy to spot for having a generic username. One of them being notorious for having an over 100+ card sized deck filled with different singletons that it draws the perfect out for any situation. Literally going full Yugioh heart of the cards to make you lose.

Quick Draft is horrendously rigged. It gives you specific card pools from packs and cheating bot opponents with impossible decks.


The only thing arena does NOT seem to cheat is paid vs free players. Tests have been ran to compare paid and free players opening hands or who goes first/second with no differences shown.
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>selesnya counters is the best deck in best of 1 AND best of 3
wtf?
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>>98243262
>The only thing arena does NOT seem to cheat is paid vs free players. Tests have been ran to compare paid and free players opening hands or who goes first/second with no differences shown.

Maybe true for cointoss, but they must have something for matchups. When you're high enough on ladder to play ranked opponents you start seeing some really weird shit, like being flooded with lands, and high ranked players playing outright jank decks, that should have no chance at all at being so high, unless game was gifting wins to them.
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>>98243377
You can consistently get to plat through raw playtime purely on variance as long as you're not <40% winrate. Yeah it'd be slower than a good player but there's absolutely morons that play six hours a day and just jam absolute piles until the coin comes up heads ten times in a row.
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>>98243262
>>98243377
re. Matchup engine

All of these were played on the same day. Very early in the latest ladder reset. I'm at Platinum and most of my opponents are at Platinum as well.

10 games in a row, then I changed my deck. Mono red was a decent deck last season, but got outpaced by jeskai. Mono blue is low tier jank. Green/black landfall is probably a bit worse than standard landfall. Quality of opponents when playing different decks and number of mirror matchups is apparent.
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>>98243432
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>>98243434
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>>98243432
Every format likely uses the same type of internal point system as Brawl to determine matchmaking. Where decks that include more meta cards (higher points) get paired vs other high point decks.
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>>98239733
>rope for as long as possible
Unironically excellent advice, thanks anon
Only took him 3 turns to catch on and concede
I think when you're at the stage that you land + pass so much you end up having to discard two Wraths, you should seriously reevaluate your life choices
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>>98243453
It's not just that. They matchup algo acknowlages counter cards as well. High noon will be matched against and drawn early against izzet, authority of consuls against agro, graveyard hate against mill decks.... When needed, offcourse.

I ran one Authority of Consuls in my white deck, but it was constantly in my opening hand. It was uncanny, really.
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Mythic ranks make no fucking sense. I can never predict whether I will gain/lose 10 or 300 ranks. The opponent's rank doesn't seem to matter at all.
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name a better feeling
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>>98244237
>casts again for 2 mana
uh...
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Noobs lmao
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lol this deck is hilarious, wildvine pummeler is ridiculous with leyline out
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>try some goofy gimmick deck in unranked
>trannies playing jeskike or poogin faggotry
paper magic is the only way to play
the estrogenetic-soi laced screeches in pain and blood choked gurgles are the only consolation when beating the living shit out of these sub-nigger pieces of shit
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>>98245144
Wheres your lgs ill show up to play and then when you sperg ill knock you the fuck out and suck your dick
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>>98245144
its amazing how brackets are such a great innovation to commander and yet we still haven't seen them in arena, where they could be hardcoded

rly makes u think
(im pretty sure brackets are just a ploy to convince new players retail packs containing 85% chaff are worth buying)
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>>98246405
Brackets are already in arena buddy the cards have hidden values too that effect matchmaking theres a hell que even for all the epic obvious power gamers.
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>>98243748
trvke
I was playing a mono black aggro deck a few days ago and I shit you not, I had 2-3 out of 4 bloodghasts in my opening hand around 75% of the time with none of my discard outlets in the top 15 cards
at this point I'm over arena as a serious game and I'm just using it to vibe-test deck ideas for paper or do silly little drafts but its still extremely frustrating when it pulls shit like that that would happen maybe once in 50 games in paper
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>>98246631
If you are shit at arena you are likely shit at paper as well. Unless youre some pro level player you are shuffling all fucked up and retarded and doing shit like “mana weaving” in paper.
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>>98243262
>Quick Draft is horrendously rigged. It gives you specific card pools from packs and cheating bot opponents with impossible decks.
do you have a source for this?
I'm not doubting you, I just want to read more about it
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>>98246637
It came to him in a dream. The real reason quick draft is bad is because you have 7 bots all hate drafting you it is not the same as a player draft. In fact all drafts are fucked because you dont even play against the people you drafted with! Cool how they made every aspect of the game cost more and be less fun huh?
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>>98246619
sounds like schizobabble vibes nonsense to me
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>the computer is schizo
Projection. Lol owned. The game is well documented at this point lil bro not everyone here is a complete noob like yourself.
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>>98246683
Wizards assigns power values to cards. Wizards offers quick draft against bots. The bots draft high power value cards. Wizards picked the power value of each card. It is rigged but not in some elaborate wotc is out to get specifically me way. Its rigged like a shitty free to play mobile game (which it is) and to drain as much time and or money out of you as it can.
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>>98219940
>TQ: Now that they're going away, how did you feel about Through the Omenpaths?
I really liked the concept of pre-proxied UB cards and the whole "present a set's theme using creatures and concepts from across the magic canon" is a really good concept, I mean that's basically what MH sets are and everybody loves those. so, on the concept level, great

but in practice
>the SPM set sucked which dampened my enjoyment of anything related to it, including OM1
>the art quality of a lot of individual OM1 cards was sub-par
>"spider human hero" is wayyyyyyy too specific of a theme and it came out feeling forced / weird and gross way more commonly than it came out feeling charming (Janai and Hoppy were cute)

I'm kind of sad to see them go even though the execution was not great. I'd so strongly prefer to see Star Trek cards represented with Edge of Eternities names and illustrations, but I know it's not going to happen.
Fleem has a good chance of showing up in a future set thanks to his popularity on reddit and YouTube comments. I hope Druneth comes back too I really like slivers
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>>98222180
>>98221611
only for the ones that already were made for spoder-man.
there is no OM2 for marvel capeshitheroes
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>>98246890
If there were in universe versions of star trek what star trek character do you think Loot would be and why?
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>>98246827
>Google AI response
>lil bro
>twitter post
somehow i came out of this looking better

>>98246848
i see, makes sense from the pov of needing the bots to draft
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>>98246898
a tribble maybe?
no but more seriously whatever legendary green creature they think has an appropriate effect. maybe Scotty ramps you, idfk
having said that they they didn't re-use any existing legendary creatures or mtg in OM1. it was all OCs. like instead of re-using Gisa or some Kamigawa ninja or something for the Black Cat adaptation (or what have you) they made up this character nobody really cares about. I think doing that several hundred more times would have been stretching the premise extremely thin.
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>>98246908
Both of those were me you got pwned! Lmao. Im the only one that posts here. >>98246929
It was a trick question they dont make in universe legends of existing legendary characters you fucking newfag get the fuck out of my game REEEEEE.
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>shitskin jeskike put in his place
lmao retard
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Wow you beat a half sentient spic with his username as his email cool dude real nice. Lmao.
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>>98219940
>TQ

Good because it was the only way to see New Capenna ever again, since we can just do irl New York set after New York set

Though for OM1 all the spider 'hero' stuff sucked and was not easy to make up shit for, it was just random spider shit. Any other UB needing an OM set would've been way cooler and more diverse
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I'm new to MTG and used chatgpt to make this. What do you think?

3x Obliterating Bolt
4x Lightning Strike
2x Burning-Tree Emissary
4x Shock
4x Searing Blaze
3x Hazoret, Bestower of the Flame
2x Scorching Spear
2x Molten Rain
4x Fiery Temper
2x Magma Jet
4x Path of Mettle
4x Mountain
3x Red-Eyed Blitzkraeg
2x Razorkin Boss
4x Thorndrought Ragemonster
1x Crucible of Fire
2x Abrade
2x Hex Proof Monk
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>>98246929
Ensign Kim better be a legendary 1/1 common.
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>>98248406
I think the mana base could use some work
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>>98248406
Hexproof monk not that good, I would x7 ShroudHasteProwessDoubleStrike Monk instead
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When is the capeshit dropping?
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>>98248961
Four mountains should be fine
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>>98248406
I-I-Interesting, now let's see how Grok does it?!
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It's out
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>>98248406
Crucible of fire with no dragons fiery temper with no discard no lands looks pretty good
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can anyone tell me what the FUCK is up with nigger troons playing """"""""control"""""""?
seeing these "ME DRAW ME SWEEP ME COUNTER U GO" faggots in UNRANKED is God damn WILD
are you so mentally rotten you CANT pilot carbon copy netdeck with auto-play strat #13745 without "practicing" first?
but the real story is AFTER i start clearly and justifiably roping every single GOD DAMN phase of every GOD DAMN turn that this intellectual midget REFUSES to quit a no strings attached, zero impact, UNRANKED match after an HOUR of scrying, surveiling, drawing, and fetching their ENTIRE deck twice over for some answer to the most braindead gimmick slop deck I put together in 20 seconds!
fucking apparent hares is TOO MUCH for this dumb shits pride to concede to (even after bombing deadly cover up on them) while I get the honor of keeping him busy watching my emote puppet show calling him a cock sucking homo.
I laughed till I couldnt breathe when it dawned on this dipshit bitch that he LOST ANYWAYS and let the metaphorical and literal rope end his stupid fucking life.
remember to name and shame these freaks lest these playstyles go unpunished
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>>98250382
Nigga you gay corny af frfr
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>>98250382
those who can't grief, rope
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>>98248406
>runs RW cards with 0 white sources
interesting decision, lets see how chatgpt plays it out

>>98249665
>>98248961
there's 4 mountains. if you can't draw them, skill issue and blame the shuffler
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>>98250382
desu hare apparent is almost as gay as what you said
>coping and seething on 4chan about it
nvm it's gayer actually LOL
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new set sucks, only good part was getting a bunch of free packs to put towards wildcards
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So let me get this straight - now we are getting the first of several Marvel slop sets, and in ONE MONTH we are getting Hobbit, another Standard legal set? This set will be the newest in vogue set for four fucking weeks? I sure picked a shit time to get back into this trash
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Good afternoon
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>>98251674
Yeah this year is kind of the nadir. Seven releases, and if they hadn't swapped Lorwyn and ATLA for rights reasons it would've been 5 UB sets, Harry Potter with the serial numbers filed off, and a multiverse set a decade after multiverse shit was in vogue. As it stands I bring my head above water for the vintage cube and then do other shit for a few weeks when it's on haitus.
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>>98221267
Thematically speaking, what even makes this little dude Black? He’s afraid to die??
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>>98229703
We used to be a real country.
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>>98251745
elves on lorwyn are green/black since they're basically nazis
they think they're the hottest shit ever and will do whatever they need to to protect themselves or advance their interests since the other races on the plane are *obviously* beneath them and are unworthy of consideration
I think the lore is they became less psychotic post lorwyn/shadowmoor block but its more a change in degree not in kind
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some of the emotes are probably BM enough to induce ragequits all on their own and some of the avatars aren't completely terrible... certainly no worse than literal-who planeswalkers and/or literal fursonas
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>>98251433
>troonoid seething he cant get away with acting like a faggot nigger
play jeskike in unranked much?
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>lethal on board, voice of victory to protect the win
>opponent does nothing because I'm at 6 life with 7 burden counters on the one ring
>all according to keikaku
>arena doesn't give me a chance to stifle the ring trigger with the Spider Sense in my hand
FUCKING BULLSHIT
Emry player, if you're here that game was mine!
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>>98252236
>xhe didn't turn on full control
ngmi
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ktim
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>2-3
>3-2
>2-3
I knew I should have waited for 17 lands data before drafting...
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Don't care for any of the cards but the achievements they added for the set are a good idea, they should do that more often.
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>>98252389
She loves to nut.
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>>98252634
this but unironically
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>>98251745
the flavor text says that his pride is wounded, having your feefees hurt is black
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>>98252389
quirk chungus hyperfatigue
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Hey what the fuck, I just spent an hour playing the shitty Spider-Man cards for the unlocks and got rewarded with 4 of these, but they're not in my inventory what the fuck.
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>>98253430
they are available for some formats
not for the format that your deck is in


yeah
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>>98253470
But I'm trying to play Standard. Why the heck would that one not be Standard legal?
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>>98253120
Epic fail
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>>98253543
having never played standard in my life, I have no idea and I don't care
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>>98253550
*casts Sinkhole on your house*
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>>98253543
That one is from the commander set you. Easiest way to tell is the set symbols you want the one that looks like a book.
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Fresh yolo attack strat

>CC on board
>all out attack with at least one 3 power creature
>roll the dice on split up
>it enters at instant speed...
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>>98254417
as long as we're imagining unplayable timmy combo you should probably be using the incredible hulk to cast your entire deck
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>>98253543
Not every card that releases is legal in Standard. Some are released directly to older formats like Modern, others (like that one) are made for EDH/Commander and only legal there and in formats like Legacy and Vintage that allow damn near everything.
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>>98246848
>The bots draft high power value cards
there are no bots drafting at all
what cards you see is predetermined by a seed when you start the "draft"
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>win game with unapproved deck
>rank goes down
jotc not even trying to hide it anymore
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>>98254785
Whatever nerd you are drafting against the computer either way is the point. Also do you have any proof?
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>>98252389
green powercreep reddit krenko
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>>98243262
>cheating bot opponents with impossible decks.
that's honestly every match type
I've been playing brawl for a couple days and the amount of fucking outs and perfect mana curves and the exact perfect cards and never a single dead turn which they take fucking hours to do a single fucking action my totally human opponents had was fucking insane

i hope this game fucking dies
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>>98254442
>>98254417

that shit is legit, you get sorceries entering at instant speed for free. it decides battles
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For some reason, I had high hopes for ranked brawl
Yuriko and the fucking R A T are unbanned so you're gonna get thoracle'd on t4 like it's 2017 all over again hell yeah
Meanwhile G and especially R get their buttholerinos banned because you can't have hecking toxic play patterns, you need to be a good boy and allow the U player (which at this point is 95% of the playerbase) to take their turn and draw 23 cards and untap all their permanents and tap all of yours and remove all your threats so they can do it all over again during your turn too.
If you're not splashing U you're actively hindering yourself, it's the equivalent of playing with 13 lands in limited, because you lack access to the absolute best and most versatile cards in the format; B is a close second as well, because nothing says interesting gameplay more than whoever hits ritual into tutor into wincon first.
One of these days I'll put together the most disgusting discardpile out there to specifically fuck over these faggots

>>98255656
Not sure about Brawl, but I feel like Quick Draft does get some bot opponents when a certain queue is dead because it's unpopular
Just playing stuff on curve nonstop no matter what, taking retarded trades and never trying to play around tricks or outs because they don't need to
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>Marvel Super Heroes Jumpstart
Great it's some great free cards like in old Jumpstart!!!
>all cards are in some fucked up unplayable format
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>>98256147
Full list:
https://mtg.wiki/page/Marvel_Super_Heroes_Jumpstart

Is there even a single standard gold/mythic in there?
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>Play a hare apparent
>get hit with a ZZZ emote
>They proceed to play Urza High lord and go off
What
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>>98256204
fag deck
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>>98256208
Throwing glass rocks in stone homes or something
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>>98256285
my glass ceiling is plenty busted but I'm under no delusion that i'm playing an honest deck
unlike you kek
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>>98256316
But I'm not? We are both playing degenerate decks, I am fully aware. I don't think they were.
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>>98256327
in that case I apologize, I didn't recognize your game sir
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>>98256155
There are a few, but odds are low on getting them. I got two rare lands as awards by playing two jump in event, so that's something.
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>>98255656
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This is FUCKING CRAZY
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>Using my Kwain forced draw & mill deck
>Go against Kotis
>Steal back my Smothering tithe and Mirrormade
>Hit a Mathmagics X 5 while having two Smothering tithes
>Force them to draw ~28 cards with Folio of fancies for the kill
>Game has to sacrifice 56 treasure tokens to cast it
>Winstate locks them in
>Treasures slowly sacrifice 1 by 1
>They are forced to watch it
Hands down my favorite deck.
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HAHA TIME FOR CANCER
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>1 hp
>0 cards left in library
lol, lmao
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Finally... John Arena ximself
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>never a dead turn
>perfect curve
>perfect outs every time
>start roping
>instant it's done it instantly follows through
>no emotes, no card highlights
dead ass fake ass game
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>>98252389
I am tired.
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>another bot with perfect curve and starting hand
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wow another werewolf deck that drops the exact same pattern of cards every turn like every other werewolf deck
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>it's another episode of "opponent goes first in Draft and plays his entire hand within the first 3 turns and wins"
They're having a lot of reruns this season, are the writers out of ideas?
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>>98258734
Yes, but the suits are having a bukkake session with all the gems they're farming.
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how are you guys tolerating the Marvel stuff
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>>98258893
I'm a lvl 9000 buckbroken paypig
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>>98258624
Has anyone seen spiderman one? It's so obvious...
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>suddenly spammed the same carbon copy selesnya deck
ok what caused these waterbrained retards to all jump on this netdeck today
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So there's people playing straight up land destruction in unranked standard

>>98254417
If you really want to cast Split Up at instant speed, there's easier ways, like pic
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>>98259863
oops, forgot the second effect, which would be pretty bad for what you want to do. Still, you might want to look at https://scryfall.com/search?q=%28game%3Apaper%29+legal%3Astandard+prefer%3Abest+oracletag%3Agives-flash
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>>98259761
Because it's the best deck in BO1 and BO3, which is ludicrous.
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>faggot paypig gets perfect ramp
>i get auto loss mulligans
nice game niggards
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>make golgari midrangey/control list
>no joke every single opponent from yesterday to today, roughly seven or so, has been combo
I guess Marvel enabled a lot of cheesy ass combo decks, I'm getting killed from one turn with Hexproof creatures that somehow vomit their owner's entire library at you hasted and attacking. There's no counterplay beyond having three instant speed removals in hand every possible turn
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>>98260143

I'm doing airbend to hulk/shehulk/ironman right now. If everything goes right you get 8/8 trampler with many upsides on turn 3. Just plain white/blue deck with bounce creatures to force airbend. Add Captain America and shit gets hexproof... Jeskikes are quitting on me early...
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>last game before Mythic, was kinda lazy this month
>go first
>le monke
>oppo turn
>drops the RW shockland, takes the 2
>Erode on the monkey
>?????
>go into t2 with 3 lands and 6 cards, feelsgoodman
>drop another monke and poomp it a bit before slamming him for 7
>oppo turn
>drops the UW shockland, takes the 2
>Flashback
>E R O D E the monke
I don't wanna believe in the Jeskai bots schizobabble
But holy fuck
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>>98237468
So do I just youtube beginner decks for ranked or do you guys have some recommendations?
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>>98261661
>MTGgoldfish
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>>98261690
>>98261661
This. Look at meta deck lists and build something that looks good to you. As you play you'll get practically unlimited common and uncommon wildcards to craft decks, so find a deck that's based on those cards. Rares are rare, so don't waste those, yet.
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*ahem*
@everyone
It's been over a month since I quit baking OPs. Enough time has passed, so I'm ending my strike.
I'm willing to work with OP and make threads again, but will only do so if and when I feel like it
Thank you for your attention to this matter
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>>98261661
There are about a million lists on moxfield and mtggoldfish that are "zero rares" which means no card rarity above an uncommon. You should be able to build one of these no problem.
The game runs on Rares. The problem everyone eventually runs into is do I stay Free to Play and get a meager dripping of rares or bite the bullet and open my wallet to speed up the process. Either way you will eventually get on the hamster wheel with us of
>ooh that list looks fun
>I need XX rares
>grind or paypig
>use that deck to play Magic finally
>deal with rotation
>rinse and repeat
The only way to move "forward" is either by paying or playing. But you won't be terribly motivated to play when you have these janky cheap decks and your opponent is dunking on noobs with a top tier deck that won a tournament last week. So basically if I was newly F2P, I would first find a list I liked and build slowly towards it. What motivates me is finally having a proper net deck that I know can compete and then grinding to Mythic each season for max pack rewards. I would recommend starting at one color, right now that would be something like Mono Black Demons, Mono White Enchantments or Weenies, or Mono Green Landfall. No matter what you're going to need like 30-40 rares. Try and prioritize cards that actually do something like Landfall enablers and dont blow all your early rares on say, rare lands.
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I'm really enjoying ranked brawl. Turns out I love necropotence gaming.
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I'm really hating ranked brawl. Turns out I hate Blue gaming.
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comp brawl really is trash
it is very good if you wanna waste people's time as they paradox engine for 15 minutes
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>>98262305
I'm still not sure these threads should even be on /tg/
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How do I keep playing my daily wins from feeling like a chore more than actually enjoying one of my favorite games?
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>turn 2 can produce 4 types of mana
heh, enjoy the next hour of roping, faggot
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>>98262305
you're ok
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>>98263918
Play a different format starter deck duel is pretty fun and free.
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>>98263902
There should be no more threads the game is cooked. Its on tg because its a dead thread for a dead game and in vg the thread dies multiple times a day.
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>>98263970
roping this jeskike and wouldnt you know it he must be a faggy lil paypiggy cuz all I'm getting is lands ha ha
sorry niggards, your favorite little whale niggot is getting his game ruined by a worthless f2p because his retarded sissy brain is too scared to play any of his no-wincons
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>>98264061
holy fucking shit niggards of the coast SINCERELY want this paypigglete nigglete jeskike trannyfag to suffer because I only top drew lands for 10 (TEN) turns straight
what a despicable fucking company enabling these future noosers
welp, continuing to rope boss
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wtf are these ugly fucking borders in the daily deals recently, are there no extended arts for sale anymore?
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Is there a term similar to carcinization in regards to making decks bluer in MTG?
I'm the elf deck newfag and after doing some work on the deck i'm considering shifting away from green/black (which I'm mostly only using for Eaten Alive and Wardens of the Cycle kek) into either monogreen or green/blue for some control cards
But every deck I look at I think "hmm this could really use some blue cards"
or maybe I'm just a fucking faggot who knows
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>Play around a nine-lives solemnity lock for 15 minutes
>They scoop at the last possible moment before I swing in and get the nine lives exiled
there should be a way to EMP these players
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Got my first win of the set. Makes up for the 0-3 on the first day.

Sharon and Jenny did very good in limited.
SS Serum making good work, too. Drop Ka-Zar's cost by one and he's a rare, no doubt. Really good abilities.
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>>98266286
Honestly not too impressed with this set, but good on you for winning, I need to do my draft games too, just not looking forward to it. Last set was better cohesion in my mind, fun combos and all that.
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>win against some nigger using marvel/ninja turtles/avatar cards
feels good man
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>flooded in lands
>play a draw three card
>draw 3 lands
how could I have outplayed this
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>>98266710
>he didn't renew his premium shuffler sub
skill issue
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ENOUGH FUCKINFG LANDFSQ

THIS IS ENOUGH LANDS

CREATURESE

PLERSLSDASE
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>>98266770
I BEG YOU
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I play with 13 lands and am in Mythic
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>>98266710
>>flooded in lands
>>play a draw three card
>>draw 3 lands
>how could I have outplayed this
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>>98266905
Forgot to add play no lands
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Got around to drafting capeshit like I said I would
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>>98266416
Am I allowed one copy of this?
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>>98266877
losing to me
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>>98268265
You can play whatever you want the game is so fucked in universe or universe beyond dont listen to this schizo hes just being an angry mental patient. Seek immediate help.
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Gonna start first picking removal because this is some bullshit.
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>>98268265
Didn't they admit they fucked up by making the Avatar lands names in-universe so they will be hard to reprint?
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>>98268822
They say that every time they give a playable land a name tied to a specific plane. They still keep doing it.
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>>98268883
They can still reprint them in non-themed sets.
When it comes to this 3rd party shit however it's impossible to reprint them with different art unless they pay a licensing fee because the name is copyrighted.
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>queue up sealed
>opponent has turn 2 rare turn 3 rare turn 4 mythic
>2 games later opponent has turn 2 green mythic, turn 3 green rare, turn 4 green rare
hmm okay. maybe I don't like sealed as much as I thought.
even if I still won
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I have enough wildcards for one competent ranked Brawl deck
Do I bother trying to build some fun midrange pile or am I gonna be miserable the whole time? From what I've seen, Blue completely dominates the format between combos and free counters
I was eyeing picrel or someone like Alesha, I like the idea of recurring stuff
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>Rejoin Arena after a long break from magic
>Draft marvel, make a normal blue black value deck with some fliers and equipment
>Both opponents play Storm, Windrider, i dont draw a removal spell immediately and lose, 0-2 draft

Skill issue on my part. At least i got two of the new lands from the draft...
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>>98265871
Blue is clearly daddy WotC favorite color, but I don't think there a specific term for that.
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IMPORTANT NEWS!

Spider-Sar is in the game! Drop all that you're doing and make the best possible deck featuring 4 (four) copies of this great redeemer!
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>>98271563
I'm at:
4x India
4x Badgermole
4x Eathbending Ascension

India comes in for 3 mana if we return a creature to our hand, so there's a mini combo involved juggling our earthbended lands and India. It'll help triggering landfall triggers, but not much else. Legendary is a problem, but I guess that we can enter India for India in a loop. He can make things fly when unit enter, so that there's a mini bonus to doing that as well. I can make our big chunky green creatures fly over things.
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>>98271563
>>98271655
He does come in with 3 lands and Badger!
Yeah... I'm bringing this dude to Mythic next season. lmao
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>>98271805
end

Deck still needs a bit of work, then I'll share it. I totally forgot that +1/+1 counter on units entering stays. Dude pumps himself up really quickly.
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>>98271805
I meant. 2 lands and Badger. Creature land is returned to hand.
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>>98271805
works against jekikes, well well...
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>>98271655
Temp deck, no sideboard at all:

4 Spider-Man India (SPM) 151
5 Plains (LTR) 263
10 Forest (MKM) 285
4 Badgermole Cub (TLA) 167
4 Earthbender Ascension (TLA) 175
4 Fabled Passage (TLE) 57
1 Gathering Place (MSH) 266
2 Temple Garden (ECL) 268
1 Lumbering Worldwagon (DFT) 168
2 Icetill Explorer (EOE) 192
3 Mightform Harmonizer (EOE) 200
4 Erode (SOS) 15
4 Sheltered by Ghosts (DSK) 30
1 Spectacular Spider-Man (SPM) 14
1 Jumbo Cactuar (FIN) 191
1 Dyadrine, Synthesis Amalgam (EOE) 216
4 Llanowar Elves (FDN) 227
2 Claim the Kingdom (MSH) 163
1 Hellcat, Undying Vigilante (MSH) 170
2 Practiced Offense (SOS) 25

Hellcat comes useful against boardwipes, but that's about all that I have against that. Might add some Restoration Magic, but that will hurt pace. I already found one problem with Great Redeemer. He's deadweight if there are no creatures on board. 5 mana is a lot to hard cast.
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>resident ESL of all people making fun of jeets
Are you even white?
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>>98271943
I'm giving people a top deck using meme magic. What the fuck are you doing?
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>>98272506
>a top deck
top of silver maybe
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>>98272703
Now why did you take your trip off?
Oh, I know! You didn't want to be made fun off. bo3, btw, lmao
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I just had dinner and dessert with my family, aunt, uncle, and cousin
Had a sapporo with dinner and a shot of crème d'érable with dessert
Now I'll be watching some jewtube
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>pick the connive and geniuses jumpstart decks
>deck myself
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>Username is Hulk
>Profile picture is Hulk
>Sleeves are Hulk
>world's slowest monored player
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>>98238121
Go full cancer: Price of Freedom, Avengers Disassembled, Fin Fang Foom and Magmatic Hellkite. I'm sure their basics count is less than 4 and when you hit their land with your Revelation while Fang is on the board oh boy it's double Rev time. Jeskai has ramped up to pure cancer no breaks mode, not sure if keeping the Lessons theme matters anymore
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>>98273284
Show us your nigger hand you black bastard
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>>98274219
hulk smash, hulk not think
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>>98274817
Whitest hand ITT
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>>98240643
Hearthstone never matched you with shitty decks that purposefully counter yours, but their randomization was rigged as hell. It's give and take.
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>>98269508
You can absolutely build a BX midrange deck if you focus on the disruption and value cards that traditionally let midrange compete against control. Remember that you have hand hate, tutors, and powerful draw engines. White would give you access to stax pieces and silence effects that can interrupt a combo, plus more lifegain that your engines will convert to card draw. Alesha would probably want to go lower to the ground and try to get under that opponent with a more aggro plan that pressures other decks that want to use life as a resource.
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>>98276175
Thanks for the ideas anon
I actually saw these two decks, both looked interesting: I definitely wanna run B because I like the idea of having hand disruption at all times because I often end up outplaying myself by assuming the opponent always has answers to whatever I'm doing, so I play suboptimally
https://moxfield.com/decks/O3CY5a6cUk6BzBXRU0V89Q
https://moxfield.com/decks/ywmfARpsvXil7rSlXMKcag
The first one seems a bit stronger, much more focused on making the opponent's game as miserable as possible, while the other one can run cards like Deflecting Swat and Redirect Lightning which I absolutely adore and they're what made me fall in love with MTG in the first place. Stax stuff with W also sounds good but I'm not aware of any good Mardu commanders that would make things work, and I think I'd end up diluting my gameplan a bit too much if I threw in too much many different colours
From my experience, most ranked decks are either U control/combo or pure ramp into turn 6 Emrakul, with very little inbetweens.
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>start tapping all multiculty lands one by one
>opponent quits before Together as One falls
>i have no Together as One in my hand
>it was a rouse
>mfw you can bluff in mtgarena now
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>>98276900
Is this the first colorless Sorcery?
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>>98277693
Nope. First ones were in Rise of the Eldrazi back in 2010, though Ghostfire in Future Sight is what started the trend.
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>nazis are now canon in the MTG multiverse
nazi tribal when?
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>>98275432
Driest maybe
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>>98278398
Make the new
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>>98278332
Hydra are just fascists that helped Nazis that one time, they aren't literally Nazis you troontard.
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>>98278616
shit dude I also thought Hydroid Krasis was pushed but I didn't realize he was that bad
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Streets of Nu Capenna
>>98278585
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>>98278616
Correct. But Zemo isn't HYDRA, he's just a Nazi.



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