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>wincons?
edition

Previous: >>98219940

News & Reminders:
No more multi-queue for Arena Directs - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/arena-direct


Spoilers for next sets:
https://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-set/marvel-super-heroes/
https://scryfall.com

Useful Links
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https://github.com/Card-Forge/forge/releases

TQ: What's your all time favorite set?
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>>98278616
his dad was a nazi
>Heinrich Zemo is the 12th Baron Zemo, a high-ranking Nazi scientist, and the original founder and leader of the supervillain team the Masters of Evil
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anyone got a skeletal swarming deck i can steal pls?
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>>98278708
Yeah and he's neither that card nor a member of Hydra, Retard.
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>>98278708
Uh... Based!!! I'm crafting four of them right now!
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-29-2026

>Standard
No changes
>Competitive Brawl
No changes
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>>98280307
I played wotc employee the other day, he had 4 badgers deck and some white fodder...
Safe to say that Badger isn't getting banned anytime soone.
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>>98278585
>tq
Hatsune Miku sakura superstar
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>"What if we designed cards that were useless in standard and instantly won you the game in limited?"
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>>98281527
>Better than screeching red nemesis.
You have to admit that the card isn't quite "Broken" just way overused.
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Finally trophied and I didn't even get to cast MODOK once... brehs...
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>>98283380
>2/2 5 Drop
I have not the most sympathy. Sorry for your losses at least.
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>>98283405
Bro but you can connive once for only
>checks notes
3 life?
Only during your turn tho
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What's a wincon?
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Nice, dark ritual is uncommon now
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>>98280307
Best part of this is how they pasted a 4C list for both Standard and Pioneer, as if saying: "This is the answer you annoying chimps, if you don't want to run our busted cards to have "fun" then play these control piles. Now let us return to our duties and print more overpowered cards because line must go up"
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The rank decay in this game is fucking retarded. Every other day I fall out of the top 1000 and have to climb back up. What's even the point? I'm just going to not even try until the very last day and hope that I get a lucky streak.

dumb ass mba psychology cunts ruining games everywhere, stop trying to maximize engagement you ghouls
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>>98279306
how about unproven mono red converge deck?
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>>98285083
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>>98284333
Even if they have decay in place, they should have a clear and transparent rating system.
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>>98285083
no thanks not sure why you suggested that to me
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>no Fantaticar on arena
But I wanted to play Vroomsday
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>starting to win against a pay pig faggot piggot
>flooded with lands, scry lands, surveil lands, draw lands, fetch pulls lands somehow
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>>98285876
Are you certain that I can't convince you? It's 99.99 in memes only.
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I am a retard, I thought I was playing 'Ranked Brawl' recently, but I was just playing regular Brawl. I just now played my first game of "100%, no foolin" Ranked Brawl. I played Blood Moon and my opponent immediately conceded when I did, good times.
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>>98287176
This one is good to broski.
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>>98283828
A land that can make a 1/1 for 4 mana.
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Watching yt with my cat
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some turbo niggerfaggot was playing the most retarded faggot deck imaginable in MWM
orzhov high noon prison, nothing but spot removal with no wincon or any way to actively win the game at all
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It happened. I lost to Land D
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>>98288331
Was it the Jeskai LD pile? I hate it too
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this +1 white earthbended land with badger on board.

unlimited combo in standard
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>>98288910
...and you can tutor for two of these cards with Starfeeld Shepherd
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>>98288910
>implying you'd get to actually cast cards
Anon you're lucky if you get a single creature to stick on the board, let alone resolving a couple of etbs
You vill get countered and you vill like lit
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>>98288910
There was on a feature match at a SCG Con a Pixie + Cam + Bloom Tender deck which had some infinite or close to infinite combo too. Not sure if that deck even considered the Ballon Man or Badgermole
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>>98288910
You can play omniscience for four mana and then cast your entire deck with a two card combo and thats not even good enough for standard. This combo is trash.
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>>98288963
>>98288991
>>98289777
What a bunch of morons... It's just a part of the deck, think what boomerang basics and Stormchasers Talent bring to it...
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>>98289807
Yea bro just run 4 colours and a bunch of creatures that are completely useless on their own, that's sure to win
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>>98289807
>posts a five card combo thats all creatures and gets mad its bad.
Lol. Lmao even. Shitter.
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blue/black is just free wins right now
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I said fuck it and crafted the 4 color control deck, it's exactly as cancerous as I expected. Plus mirror matches are taking years.
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I see capeshit card, I rope
simple as
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Rope yourself goy boy
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>>98290228
midrange or reanimator?
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>>98290736
I did the opposite, I crafted pure RDW
I frankly don't see the appeal of that Jeskai bullshit, you have one wincon in your entire deck and that's it. And it's not like the little nigga monks are that difficult to deal with anyways, so you have 0 wincons outside of the opponent decking himself or you beating him down with Anchorage
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>>98291320
You also have manlands, and prowess triggers means your fucking about with stockups and flashbacks directly fuels your offense. It's the same as control decks a decade ago with no wincons outside of beating you to death with snapcaster mage attacking 10 times when you were hellbent and they had a hand full of counterspells.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYsY952Pyz0
Interdasting if you're a nerd
Basically they built an optimized system that translates rules impeccably and immediately, so the reason we're not getting all cards ever is because of the art/design/UX work required for each one (and probably because they wouldn't know how to actually implement them)
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>>98291526
But we got alchemy so everything you and that guy said is stupid and retarded. They just dont care enough to do it.
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Its the same reason we dont have multiplayer
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>have the literal perfect starting hand
>fatfinger mulligan
time to kms
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>>98291595
I use a bluetooth controller to play on my phone sometimes i get weird looks but i dont care i never misclick in Magic the Gathering: Arena!
Dont kill your self yet you could still see some really funny stuff.
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>>98291010
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>>98282517
Based. Constructed is pay2win bullshit.
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>>98291320
Thank you based gacha game matchmaker
I dunno what I'd do without you

>>98291501
Was gay 10 years ago, is still gay now
A mirror match turns into what, whoever starts discarding first?
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>>98293336
Aight nevermind then holy shit
What the fuck
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Which one boys?
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>>98293406
Buy singles:

Scarlet Witch, Elektra, Spider Gwen and maybe Black Widow (face looks a little derpy). Ignore the rest
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>>98295332
This but Black Widow and Loki
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Lol pussy
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This sole nigger survived two jeskike attacks against a full hand of cards, and took them down in bo3. Hexproof + Menace + pumped up Jite. Dude thought he has a chance as I roped and threw emotes at him.
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It keeps happening! He just eats monke tokens!
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>>98298933
I kneel.....
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Get one shotted by a 1/1
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>>98300328
Shit forgot the pic
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Im playing magic in 2030 you guys have no idea how much farther ahead i am.
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these final fantasy cards are really fuckin gay huh
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>>98300877
Nah it was the only good UB draft. Kefka gets a bad rap because people build him as a goodstuff pile but theres a better build that totally rapes people and no one cares.
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Whom else here /pioneerchallenge/ all weekend?
...you have a pioneer deck, right?
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boy I love logging in and having to concede 15 matches in a row before the algorithm stops giving me 0 land hands in a 22 land deck while my opponent hits the best plays in his deck each turn for the first 4 turns while also never missing a land drop
I'm convinced I should spend 1000 dollars immediately!!
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Im thinking we need to merge with /mtg/
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>>98301191
No?!im playing cummander and ruby storm hex magic op. Nigger!
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>>98283828
tendrils
morphling
psychatog
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>>98301609
This thread's slow as all shit and we've got some tripfags but this is, somehow, unfortunately, still better than that morass. I think the sluggishness is more to blame with the fact that MTG itself is currently ass than the schism being without merit.
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Dick lickers
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>Every game is hard ramp into spell that ends game on turn 3/4
I hate this fucking game, MtG is only fun in real life with friends. Playing with anonymous people is so fucking shit.
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>>98301609
I think i need to slap your shit
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The Vision is BUSTED.
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>starting hand is 1-drop, removal, counterspell and artifact, as well as a couple of hands
>ok this looks good
>exclusively drew lands for the rest of the game
>every single card drawn, from the very first turn to the last, has been a basic land
>exclusively won because the opponent's a fucking a retard and didn't see obvious lethal
>even have 16 lands in deck
>drew half my manabase within the first 6 turns of the game
I just dun get it, I spent half an hour autistically reading up stats and thinking about my deck and then it doesn't even matter because I never get to play my fucking cards
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Reminder to play The Vision its disgusting.
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>Hare Apparent
I hate this card like you wouldn't believe
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>>98307007
You didn't suffer enough, capenigger
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no marvel alchemy? i wanted to engage in peak slop
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>first game of the day
>playing ranked standard with a token spam deck
>guy plays this
Guess i just won't play today
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>Mulligan to 5
instant concede?
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>>98308466
narrow specific answers like this are how you know you got put in a bot game to force your winrate down
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>>98308466
that's just variance, despite nobody having any reason to run a 5 cmc wrath with 2 black pips

>>98308581
take your tinfoil hat off. the blackbox matchmaking and shuffling algorithm is 100% reliable
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>>98308508
depends on the deck
I went to 4 yesterday and still took down the game easily
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Fuck this guy gg ez no re
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>>98308466
Mono decks get to play all the best cards of their color and you only played creatures lil bro what did you expect to happen?
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Watching Ash
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>>98309499
capeshit is so infinitely lame, bros.
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Deck
4 Alesha, Who Laughs at Fate (FDN) 115
10 Mountain (MSH) 294
10 Swamp (MSH) 292
2 Masterful Flourish (SOS) 89
2 Undying Malice (FDN) 528
4 Searslicer Goblin (FDN) 93
3 Perforating Artist (FDN) 124
4 Greedy Freebooter (LCI) 109
4 Burglar Rat (FDN) 170
2 Vampiric Rites (FDN) 615
1 Temple of Malice (FDN) 701
4 Vampire Gourmand (FDN) 74
3 Innocuous Rat (DSK) 103
1 Rakdos Guildgate (FDN) 693
2 Goblin Surprise (FDN) 200
2 Fake Your Own Death (FDN) 174
2 Macabre Waltz (FDN) 177

r8
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>>98309499
of course she's playing that boring ass cauldron familiar deck
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>opponent goes first
>drops 2 leylines of hope turn 0
and with that, we concede
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>>98309669
Get in line, faggot, I did it first and better >>98293342
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>>98309688
I kneel
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>>98309562
Alesha is a tranny/10
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>>98309499
I wanna fuck and cum in her armpits so bad bros
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first time I ever won because they ran out of cards. am I leveling up?
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>>98310395
UB is the worst starter deck ever gleaming barrier is dogshit and rise of the dark realms makes you lose the game a lot of the time.
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>>98310519
gleaming barrier was theirs. return the favor shuts down rise of the dark realms.
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>>98288910
well, it's out in the wild now, you better be prepared for it!

https://moxfield.com/decks/_DHWlusJFE2RklZV0HIUNA
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>>98311398
Nice i hope i dont have to ever face this
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>2/2 for 2 mana with ward 2
if it didn't have any other text this card would've been balanced
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>>98313929
cards like that force people to play jeskike cancer and eight cards of board removal
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Challenge packies
Lost my ass this time but I got some practice with the deck ig
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I win so many games in brawl i get matched against turn 2-3 infinite combo decks over and over with my midrange value deck. Nice.
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>new season
>fresh rigging

play midrange, opponent packs board removal and graveyard hate
play agro, opponent with lockup and high noon in hand
play counterspells, opponent with Mistrise Village on board
win g1, mullingan 2nd game, mullingan 3rd game

I'm at a point that I don't mind people that rope me. They're ok, they're frens. I know that they went through the same shit that I did. But I do hate paypigs with perfect counter decks that were gifted wins.
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>plays a high threat commander
>ropes when I kill him twice
What the fuck were you expecting?
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>>98315073
>buy 1 capecope avatar for gold and equip it, get rigged for the rest of the year

it's not that deep
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It's phelia really viable in competitive brawl?
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I HATE YURIKOOO
the whole match revolves around his retarded draw engine in the command zone
at least yuriko pilots are mostly braindeads
my matchup against it isnt even bad, but i despise playing against it
TQ:
the one i started with
cold snap
lorwyn was kino too
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I liked Darksteel indestructible artifacts, march of the machines, and obliterate were fun as FUCK.
>>98316541
Yuriko is boring as shit and on the list of commanders i usually skip.
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I wish this game had a replay function because it's hard to believe how retarded some people are. I had 2 games back to back where opponent removed my starcage while it had only my own stuff (Cryogen Relic, Legion Extruder...) inside, and I had actual other targets.
That both were playing the Superior Spider-Man reanimator combo is probably not a coincidence.
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>the game is rigged!!11!!!1
>but only when I lose
You fags are just bad and stupid.
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>>98316541
>Yuriko
>Nashi
>Uro
>Katara
>Niggerman McCounterspells
>Raffine
And to think I was hyped about this format
I want to find the WotC employee that said "Yes we should give Blue all the best cards in the format, that would make the game much more interesting" and gently extract every bone from his body with a scalpel
I can only pray the next round of bans does something, A N Y T H I N G because this shit is frankly unplayable
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>>98315909
>for gold
lmao retard it only works if you buy with gems
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if you dont draft white in this marvel set mark rosewater personally comes to your house and shits all over your face and keyboard and you go 0-3
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when's capeslop season ending
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>>98319662
august 14, then we play tolkiengoop
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>>98318930
highbrow opinion is that the game is rigged
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>1096
>early season
Not impressive. Come back when you're urza status (top 5)
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>(top 1)
fix'd for you

still selling my account tho, you know how to find me. feel free to report this and have it deleted btw, i'm still not posting more than a once a month or so and the actual 2-3 real posters here just leave the tab open 24/7 so there's no point in deleting

also my collection is fucking huge and i know you're jelly :3
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the meme god actually posted
i kneel
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Great midweek. What are we bringing?
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>>98321547
Went 3-0 with the starter Rakdos deck and moved on with my life
Took less than 10 mins in total, everyone's playing monoW lifegain sissy
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Stop making these threads and go to /mtg/ they said it was cool.
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Anybody else keeping their enemies in the game until they concede?
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>>98321547
People pick the shitty premade decks by accident. They probably don't know any better. Stomp them and move on
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>>98320824
he literally monitors the thread all day long waiting to be mentioned
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yay
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>>98321547
Threw in a landfall deck with 90% foundation cards plus whatever was relevant from marvel.
I still don't understand why they don't allow access to all cards for these events.
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Should i make an Etali or Phelia deck?
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>>98313929
Sure would be a shame if I dropped this bad boy to kill it then seam ripped everything else they drop.
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>>98324735
Corr
Good kittingtonshire this one
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>>98321547
Im playing cats!
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My opponent drops double quicksilver and scoops. Cool!
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>Authority of the Consuls is 1 mana
For something that completely shuts down entire archetypes, that's a bit absurd, non?
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>>98325287
Based cat enjoyer!
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I'm having a lot of fun with this one. Both plans complement each other with sorceries and instants that create creatures.
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>>98325960
It's max of four cards in 60 card deck. Surely it won't be in hand when needed....


(it will always be in hand even when played one copy, lmao, we rigg it like that)
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>>98326473
>you enter a match of your favourite card game, Magic the Gathering
>you wish to play creatures
>as soon as the game starts your opponent puts down a tapped Plains, Authority of the Consuls and two Leylines of Hope
>"Your go"
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Am I misunderstanding rules? I thought because Sentry belongs to me, and it's the card that creates the token, I would be the owner of the token and oppo only the controler?
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>>98326679
Target opponent creates, as in "that token is theirs", doesn't matter where the effect comes from
It's kinda like if you remove something with Buy your Silence or Harsh Annotation
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>>98326346
>>98326447
The Vision is a busted card.
>>98326679
Yeah you got it wrong. They own that token but you are thinking and thats good.
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>>98326679
That's how it used to work. Using Brand with the Hunted series from Ravnica was a deck, as was using Homeward Path with Terrastadon in early EDH. I think it changed around 2019?
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Cats version 2
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I just get so crazy playing with kitty cats
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>>98326481
>Press Escape
>Concede
My day shant be ruined by a nigger 1 drop that should never have seen the light of day
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>>98326481
>>98327809
Its your fault for playing a format that has more than one copy of each card.
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>>98327851
>get the p2w shuffler
>always get the cards I need when I need them, no matter how many copies are in my deck
kek heart of the cards bro
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>>98327906
Cope seethe and dilate shitter schizo.

Meow.
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Just build your own decks bro.
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Nice Deck!
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>>98327988
This is how you know they're absolutely seething.
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>>98328004
dropped two rampages on an Authority of the Consuls NIGGER on turn 4 and swung for lethal
not before saying Nice Deck tho
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>>98328007
So you were seething.
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See you next week!
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>am at 2hp against monoB aggro
>get to swing with a pumped Showoff for 12
>opponent comfortably survives on 8, I only have 1 mana left
>starts spamming WELL PLAYED WELL PLAYED OOPS OOPS OOPS OOPS WELL PLAYED
>le 1 mana Fling (but worse) has arrived

>>98323139
>by accident
I'm not making some retarded deck just for this shitty event
You play the Orzhov or Rakdos starters and play till you get the 3 wins
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>>98328166
Well i have a full set of foundations and refuse to play marvel slop so im gonna keep playing cats because its fun. Starter decks is not fun.
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>>98324735
Why not both?
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>>98328185
>see card that would really go well with my decks
>it's m*rvel only
yeah, I know how you feel
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You think this is rigged? This is pure skill bb.
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>play flash tempo
>winning a shitload
>get in a game with a marvelnigger avatar
>said faggot has "YOU CAN'T CAST SPELLS ON MY TURN"
hmmmmm!!!!
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reddit new requires age verification

it's over, i'm not handing out my data

>>98320824
hello sir
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I've got nothing but contempt for this set.
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>>98329106
You can get around it easily if you aremt a retarded nigger. Hows your tranny gf favela broski?
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>>98329106
>pic
ktim
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>>98327523
no 4x claws out? you're missing out....

(that ajani planeswalker is utter trash though)
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>>98318960
I'm fairly successful with Thalia Hatebears (~mythic 500) because it preys on the lazy "counterspell only" lists, and most lists don't really play on the board
But it's really annoying to see the same five commanders over and over and over again
Let's see how WotC will make that format even worse with the next ban wave
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>>98330405
Chad shit, I wanted to put together a comfy stax pile to deal with them but I couldn't settle on a decent commander to go with them
My experience with Mythic is that, if you're not playing Blue you're basically shooting yourself in the foot, so my only hope is that some of the more outrageous commanders get shut down (and some of the free counterspells go)
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>>98330002
I decided id rather have more creatures instead of claws out but its a fine card. Maybe run 2-3 you dont want to draw two of them.
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>comp brawl opponent copies a blue farm list thinking it works in 1v1
>actually taps out for a Rhystic Sphere of Resistance
>shred his hand and blow up all his engines
God I love a format where I can Rock.
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Comp brawl would be fun but i just hate green so much bros… i cant think of or find an answer to the ramp spells.
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>>98331261
>hating Green
Have I got good news for you, anon
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>>98331261
I just play 80 rats and a rat related commander. The opening hand smoothing algorithm guarantees at least 2 lands.
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>>98331333
I fucking hate hate hate playing against yuriko too thats not good news thats awful.
>>98331437
Are you playing marrow gnawer? Rats was kinda fun i guess.
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anyone else
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>>98332663
Did that in draft
Only need to do the spiders one, but you can do it in a couple of matches against Sparky so that doesn't worry me
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>>98332663
BASED
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>>98331261
Brawl would be fun without Alchemy
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>>98281977
heh
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>>98332663
Can this shit be done in private matches with a friend?
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>>98331333
My Jetmir deck has demolished the last 6 Yurikos I've seen thoughbeit
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>>98325287
Next time there is a spare rare, Practiced Offence is a must in any aggro deck with white. Even having 2 creatures and 5 mana goes nuts.
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>>98333628
Which set was this from?
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So, the battlepass is
>4k gold (basically one quickdraft, 300 gemmies for 3 wins)
>1 draft token (1k gemmies in standard draft for 3 wins, how hard can it be)
>1.2k gemmies
All for 3.4k gemmies, meaning you effectively only go down by 900 gemmies that you somehow have to make back with drafts via gold from quests
Even if I despise all the cosmetics that come from this, I guess it's always worth to pick it up? Mostly for wildcards to eventually turn into Pioneer/Brawl decks
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>>98334725
You forget a lot of free packs. Yes, you should always go for it.
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>>98334567
It was foundations + marvel only event.
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>Ahead-of-curve body
>Flame rifts you on ETB.
Can ANYONE explain why this has the first two lines of text also stapled to it?
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>>98334764
It's hard to justify a 4 drop in monored, so it needs to be as pushed as humanly possible.
Probably wouldn't wanna try it in multicolor since etb hits you too.
Also EDH bait, preventing lifegain shuts some combos down.
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>>98334764
>first two lines
More like the first one, the only time I've seen prevented damage being a relevant mechanic within the last 5 years (outside of EDH) is Fog Wall
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>>98334808
>forgetting One Ring
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>>98335250
I have no fucking clue what it does to be desu
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>>98334808
I was gonna say questing beast but damn that was seven years ago
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Fcking wildcards are gained too slow.
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>>98335334
It just draws cards. Every deck ran it until it was banhammered.
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>>98334764
5/4 for 4 is not ahead of curve in current year
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>>98336238
Oh right I mixed it up with the ringbearer shit
I've seen it a couple of times in brawl and I just knew one of his creatures was doing stupid shit but couldn't quite keep track of everything without constantly hovering
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I want to play with Squirrel Girl. Should I play Standard or Brawl?
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>>98337402
you should play in highway traffic capenigger
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>>98337402
marvel rivals
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>>98337402
brawl is the worst format ever conceived
standard is the second worst
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>>98338393
sounds like magic it's a garbage game then.



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