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Bronze space marines are peak.
>>98225941Nice
>They butchered Combat Patrol even moreDamn it GW, why? It often feels like fixing stuff actually requires less effort than fucking them up and yet GW never fails to make things worse.
>>98225959just play boarding patrol instead.
>>98225959It reminds me a lot of WoW players and their oft-repeated mantra of "Blizzard detected fun. Blizzard deleted fun." And yet those players, like 40k players, are unable to even address the beginnings of their battered wife syndrome.
>>98225924>book posting>no feet includedLAME
>>98225959>>They butchered Combat Patrol even moreWhat did they change?
>>98225967Fuck off weird cunt
>>98225962Will there be any support for boarding actions this edition?
are land raiders worth in world eaters lists
>>98225941Proving that boltguns > bolt rifles.
>>98225968Almost all old Combat Patrol armies were squatted, some faction have none.>>98225962No, I can't be bothered with setting up the ridiculous maze of walls and door every time I want to play the game. It feels like a chore.
I like orks :D>>98225923working on this guy, got the skin down already, so once I’m done with the rest of the highlights I can fuck with giving him some camo.
>>98225923ILL GET THIS PIECE OF SHIT FINISHED ONE DAY I SWEAR
>>98225923Non playable models count?
ORKS IZ PROPAPROV ME RONG!
>>98225979Black and red orks best orks
>>98225991>>98225979love you ork bros. keep it up.>>98225992obviously yeah, I mean technically what I'm working on is "playable" but unable to actually go on a normal board lmao.
>>98225977That's a Red Corsair bolter, they're the same length as a boltrifle.
>>98225973I hope so I've been painting my boarding actions board for like nine months
When this is done my 10th edition starter will be almost halfway painted.
Would the game "feel" better if there was no Marinec (and no Chaos Marine) Codex, but Marines would be a limited selection for Guard? Similar to a squad of Ogryn, Guard armies could bring a few marines as elite. Chaos would be entirely based upon various cultist, mutant, demon and traitor guard units, with Chaos Marines as an elite selection too.
>>98226010No.
>>98225971if you’re just going to post something you found on ebay, then at least make it somewhat silly/interesting by adding a foot in it. same with box posting.
>>98226001Why do you lie?
>>98226001Isn't that from the Space Wolf box?
>>98225967>>98226013can you not
>>98226001No?
>>98226016The body is from the Blood Claws, the arms and head are from the Red Corsairs.
>>98225977that's not a boltgun
TOs are genuinely incapable of rotating an apple in their head. They need statcheck winrate %s to even form a thought
>>98226013forgot to crop
>>98225971>>98226018fuck off tourist
>>98226028That's a weird looking shit you took on the floor.
This thread is weird
>>98226015Holy shit, I was lying but look at this >>98226020they are pretty much the same size.
So wait, which one is it? Melee armies are overpowered or worthless now? Cuz I've heard both.
>>98226001>they're the same length as a boltrifle.They are not, but even if: It still looks better by a mile
>>98226037Same difference as every other bolter?
>>98226049blind
>>98226024holy fuck these are the people who run majors? Man I thought judges were fucking retarded but this is hilarious.
>>98226031I've been using this board for years Also ork i painted last year with limited paints but I've got like 125 paints now waiting for the Armageddon box to be delivered. Anyone got some tips for painting orks in a grim dark style? I've got all volumes of the John Blanche paints volume one to four (they're amazing btw i only use citadel to paint terrain nowadays)
>>98226049Not even close
>>98226024ah so you are americanweve got a 5 man team thing in august up northsee how they change the rules by then lolbut terrain is a big question for TOs right now cause that makes or breaks everything
>>98226057Kinda wham
>>98226061>has the hand a whole hand forwards
>>98226045anyone who said "melee was good in 11th" was a retard who played a shooty army and saw that the terrain got dense and you couldnt shoot DZ to DZ while touching your dick all game. Shooty armies have had it so baby mode easy that they saw the game shift to not being baby mode they said "its melee". This was further made hilarious when "overrun" was announced which functionally changes literally NOTHING about the fight phase and ignoring the fact that charging across the game is now a -1 compared to 10th. Remember, shooty army specialists are fucking retarded and do not understand the fight phase.Now that toe-towering LOS paired with terrain that is scantilly clad and tiny as fuck doesnt allow any army to properly stage in no mans land, every melee faction specialist and melee player is sounding the alarm of how fucked they are. Its only braindead retards saying it isnt that bad. When you ask them to show you where you can stage in NML, they literally cannot show you or tell you that you are wrong, but will still assert that you are, because they are fucking retarded.
Can batch painting make painting a bunch of minis both easier and faster?
>>98226072(you) tried, retard-kun
>>98226075Yes.
>>98226072>t-the hand is forwards!!!the body of the bolter matches almost 1:1the image you provided is nowhere close
>>98226061Nah, that's the semi-carbine model. Shorter barrel, 5% better rate of fire. Meaningless distinctions, honestly.
>>98226083This just means the only difference is in the hammer being extended while bolt rifles just add an extra 1/4th of the gun on the other side.
>>98226074Your fault for playing on official terrain layouts mouthbreather. 11th is for actual hobbyists, not tourneyfags
>>98226083>Ejection port not in line with barrel on classic bolterNot like this, fellow grognards. Can't unsee now.
>>98225923I do t have any new ones and it’s getting kinda stale but okay. Have the oldest member of the chapter alongside a younger marine inside a far old dreadnought chassis.
>>98226093Fear not.
>>98225978My gf actually fucks with boarding actions but setting it up is basically cock and ball torture, we've been playing necromunda on it, I'm going to paint her some sisters of battle after I've done my orks that I'll be getting with Armageddon.
>>98226095>Don’t talk to me or my disabled son ever again.
>>98226087Scaling the two up to match the painted model and the classic bolter is still smaller in comparison to the red corsairs ones, you're just wrong
>>98226099>I'm going to paint her some sisters of battleI'm building my gf's SoB right now and I fucking hate every single minute of it. She likes to paint but hates to assemble minis. I love kitbashing and converting but SoB minis are simply annoying. I'm too used to the elegant simplicity of classic Mahreens.
>>98225909Yeaj
>>98226111Fuck me what have I got myself into hahahaha at least it's not necrons or admech eh?
>>98226123Necrons are easy-peasy to build imo. My friend bought two Indomitus boxes and wanted to pay me for building them for him but Necrons were so fun I didn't even charge him. Admech is as pleasant to assemble as shitting bricks.
>>98226111>decades waiting for new sisters>open kit>10 parts to build a single basic bitch sisterGSC neophytes have a lots of parts for they are and they are 6 parts to build the basic bitch guy.
>>98226093Since when does the ejection port need to be "in line" with the barrel? The world is full of strange ejection systems where the casings are ejection from all manner of places.
>>98226107Mate your pic is proving what I just said. The corsair bolter just has a longer hammer over the hand. It's not making the stock longer like the bolt rifle and fucking over the proportions of the gun in the process.
>>98225904I am cringe, but I am free.
>>98226031Been posting here for like ten years and was painting Warhammer while homeless.
>>98226107Those are close enough where it doesn't even matter.Both bolt rifles and bolt carbines look cool.
>>98226136It's larger entirely, you're blind
>>98226150Are you unaware of the concept of proportions?
>>98226074The age of the balanced army is at hand. I can both shoot AND melee!
>>98226149Bolt carbines do because they look just like boltguns. Bolt rifles are an abomination that needs to be removed. Not only because it's ugly but because it dares replace the iconic boltgun.
>>98226131>Admech is as pleasant to assemble as shitting bricks.NTA but buliding a Dunecrawler right now and I forgot how much I dislike building Admech stuff. Making me consider shelving the army for another three editions at this point.
>>98226153Are you unaware that you're wrong regardless?
>>98226024It's beyond revolting that these types of people are now the face and apparent heart of the hobby. Very healthy state for the game.
Mix - A Real Catachan Hero! - SLY MARBO x GI JOE Inspired Song #warhammer #sunoaiIf Sly Marbo Had a 1980s Cartoon Theme Song...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGqBmRoOgVc&list=RDSGqBmRoOgVc&start_radio=1
>>98225909I've been working on multiple halfs of the ork side from the Armageddon set but I'm wondering which of these characters I'd actually want to run multiples of in an ork army.
>>98226185>these types of people are now the face and apparent heart of the hobby.no they aren'tyou need to go outside>>98226188keep your AIslop out of our thread
>>98226131I remember getting back into the hobby for the first time in a while during 2018 and I had an awful time putting skitarii together, mainly because certain arms only worked together along with legs and torsos, it just sucked.
>>98226192>>98226188Human-made // AI Assisted (Suno, Gemini 3, Seedance 2, ChatGPT, KLING, Vidu Q3) Endless Taverns is an independent content creator and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or connected to Games Workshop in any way.
>>982261886000 gallons of fresh water died for this.
>>98226192Then why the massive focus on competitive play to the detriment of everything else?
>marinefags seething about backwards bolt-tech when Shurikens are the way of the future and the pastIt was foretold
Are we getting nobz on warbikes back?
>>98226197>Then why the massive focus on competitive play to the detriment of everything else?Isn't happeningGo outside
Jej (1,950 Points)Thousand SonsRitual of Regeneration and Warpmeld Pact (3 Detachment Points)Force Dispositions: Purge the FoeStrike Force (2,000 Points)ATTACHED UNITSAttached unit 1Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (130 Points) • Attached as: Leader (Character) • 1x Force weapon • 1x Gaze of Hate • 1x Inferno combi-bolter • Enhancements: Eruption of VitalityScarab Occult Terminators (370 Points) • Attached as: Bodyguard () • 1x Scarab Occult Sorcerer ◦ 1x Force weapon ◦ 1x Inferno combi-bolter ◦ 1x Malefic Curse • 9x Scarab Occult Terminator ◦ 2x Hellfyre missile rack ◦ 7x Inferno combi-bolter ◦ 9x Prosperine khopesh ◦ 2x Soulreaper cannonAttached unit 2Infernal Master (110 Points) • Attached as: Leader (Character) • 1x Fires of the Abyss • 1x Force weapon • 1x Inferno bolt pistol • Enhancements: Bray LordTzaangors (145 Points) • Attached as: Bodyguard () • 1x Twistbray ◦ 1x Tzaangor blades • 19x Tzaangor ◦ 19x Tzaangor bladesCHARACTERSTzaangor Shaman (60 Points) • Warlord • 1x Baleful Devolution • 1x Force staveBATTLELINETzaangors (75)Tzaangors (75 Points)Chaos Land Raider (220 Points) Mutalith Vortex Beast Scarab Occult Terminators (180 Points)Scarab Occult Terminators (195 Points)Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster Greatbows (110 Points)Tzaangor Enlightened with Fatecaster Greatbows (110 Points)Thinking about starting 11th with this list, not sure what the rules are exactly because wahapedia isn’t updated yet
>>98226216You must be one of the special posters around here, I accept your concession.
>>98226191Howd you get it so early? Probably mutiple warbosses and maybe painboyz if you are running green tide
>>98226192AI is happening whether you like it or not anon
>>98226222MUCHO TEXTO LE LE ECKS DEE XD XDXD
>>98226223I thank you for admitting you know fuckall about anything>>98226226Yeah that's why it hasn't earned a single cent of actual profit for any company and all companies are scaling back implementation or scrapping it altogether right
>>98226237Anon relax its just AI it cant hurt you
>>98226237Must be pretty nice to be completely oblivious to everything going on, I'm only a little envious.
>tfw everything ive painted over the last year is about to get a refresh
>>98226111Bruh SoB are so easy and fun to convert. Do you even try? >>98226133I started the game with sisters in 4e. I love my old metal models. The plastics are about as good as I could have hoped for with a few exceptions, and the only real annoyance I had while building was one of the fucking seraphim that you have to twist in to place. Also the paragons. I have no desire to build them, so I got some shitty 3D prints.
>>98226197Nta but most of what's bad about modern 40k has nothing to do with competitive players and a lot to do with GW's writers being absolute morons.
>>98226134>The world is full of strange ejection systems where the casings are ejection from all manner of places.Yes, but none of those were in serial production - and thats for a reason
>>98226241Yep none of those except the classic boltgun have any reason to exist.
>>98226098The blocky magazine ruins them
>>98226260It's clear that GW's chasing them, just look at who playtests the game and who they chose to demonstrate the new edition, plus the way they FAQ the rules revolves around competitive idiocy.
>>98226249You can shelf your new retro minis and use your new painting skills on your new army
>>98226259>easy and fun to convert>I'm building my gf's SoBDo you perhaps see how your reply is actually not addressing my post correctly?
>>98226237my company is profiting from it lol
>>98226278>painting "skills"Lol. Lmao even. Why do they want to refresh the battlewagon anyway? Theres no point of changing perfection
>>98226263>M2>M1919>Maxim>F2000>were not in serial productionOk.
>>98226280>I love kitbashing and converting but SoB minis are simply annoying.I am addressing your post correctly.
>>98226082How does that work exactly? How does painting specific parts on multiple minis is faster than doing every part on a singular mini?
>>98226304You're not having to reset your painting station every time you move to the next model like if you were painting one to completion and stopping
I am reading Dark Imperium and Indomitus Crusade lore.The lore says that the Ultima Founding created formations of marines that are legion-sized. Hundreds of thousands of marines, possibly reaching as far as one million.These formations were called the Unnumbered Sons. By the end of the Plague Wars, all that remained of the Unnumbered Sons was 20K marines. How the fuck did so many Marines die in just 12 years? That's worse than the HH.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98226007Lovely paintjob.
>>98226275Who would you want to playtest the game? People that aren't trying to find edge cases? That kind of playtesting would be useless.
>>98226304You don't have to change paints, brushes, pallettes or water so often.Different segments require different techniques and by doing a bunch of the same thing in a row it gets better and easier as you practise.
>>98226296No you are not, I said I'm building them - not kitbashing or converting them. To make it even more clear to you, I build them by following the instruction.
>>98226318>How the fuck did so many Marines die in just 12 years? That's worse than the HH.It's a tough galaxy. But the Unnumbered Sons weren't diminished solely through attrition, they were split off to found new chapters or reinforce existing ones as they went.
>>98226288Are they doing that? We need more options desu, it'd be nice to get a sprue were we can make imperial vehicles ork like
>>98226339From my understanding, the 20K were disbanded and scattered either prior to or after the Plague Wars.
>>98226318GW was always bad with numbers but to everyone's surprise it somehow got even worse with Gathering Storm.
>>98226351Yeah, their last mission was in the novel that introduced them, but they're already a greatly diminished force by the time that happens.
>>98226338somehow topped the dude who posts his nasty feet on top codexes when it comes to degenerate pictures.
>>98226304Less time needed to switch between colours. Easier to find a nice flow repeating a task. No need to wait for things to dry like you might have to on a single model.It's not for everyone though, some people hate it. I can only batch a couple at a time, a full squad severely reduces my fun.
>>98226318>That's worse than the HH.How many died during HH?
>>98226334Then that sounds like a you problem because you can convert them all you want and then she can paint them.
>>98226349Most likely, could also be replacing the trukk, both nobz varieties and stormboyz
>>98226365Don't kink shame.
>>98226367Not enough to reduce the legions to mere tens of thousands. The Ultramarines were still a massive force despite Calth.
>>98226367like 500k marines and several billion humans
>>98225923Gonna start painting my collage entry over the weekend
>>98226063the TOs in the US are retarded and "need to see winrate % data" to make any decision. They will stare you in the face and say the terrain isnt shooting favored.
>>98226260and then the bad writers are supported by the competitive circuits that are in bed with GW
>>98226383Too bad cos we are
>>98226318Lore answer: The Imperium had an existential crisis on one hand and more space marines than they knew what to do with on the other and mashed them together, resulting in the Eastern-front experience. On top of that, the Unnumbered Sons were used as reinforcements for existing space marine chapters that were in the same shit, so their "losses" included casualties from completely unrelated units. If a Greyshield died, that's -1 Unnumbered Son. If a Charcharodon died, a Greyshield would be sent to fill the hole in the ranks, and that's also -1 Unnumbered Son. 12 years of high casualty rates, plus high non-casualty attrition on top of that, can absolutely whittle down an army of a million to a mere twenty thousand.Real answer: GW can't count.
>>98226414Those competitive circuits already existed when 40k wasn't like this and will exist until 40k isn't popular to sustain them. They have nothing to do with the writers being shit at their jobs.
>>98226456The competitive circuits like the ITC literally would release mission packs, terrain packs, ban new things and regulate limitations in tournament list building for their events. We agree, GW is fucking awful at writing rules and retarded, but we had a safeguard (wasnt perfect but was there) and now its gone and TOs just regurgitate whatever GW tells them to and obviously favor their armies in design this way.
>>98226318Grayshields are the only cool thing that ever happened with Primaris and nobody remembers them at all. I also like that most of them were hated/tortured/abused when they showed up and heightmogged their firstborn cousins. I thought it was cool they felt more at home among their greyshield family than the marines they actually shared geneseed with.
>>98226508The Dark Angels and Flesh Tearers ones were pretty roughed up, certainly.
>>98226508As usual with primaris, greyshields are just a lamer version of a 30k concept with blackshields.
>>98226330Take a look at the absolutely zany fucking FAQs they have to craft up. A game like this is never going to be balanced on a fine point and leaning solely into playtesters that only give a fuck about hyper-competitive play is just folly.
>>98226550So what's the alternative? Not having those FAQs and let the door open for retard rule lawyers that want to cheat? If you're already playing with normal people then these FAQs mean nothing because you were already applying common sense. If you're playing with a retard they protect you. There's no downside to this.
>>98226001>primatard is blindMore news at 11
>>98226557Not that anon, but that's kinda the problem with modern gaming. Not even strictly for 40k. Once up pin a time, those retards would be told to fuck off for being retards. Now, rules lawyers are the norm to try and crack rules wide open to exploit some bullshit loophole. 3rd/4th edition rules weren't exactly air tight, but people look back fondly because people didn't typically play like jackasses.
>>98226580(you)
im gonna have a nap, then paint more. cya later anons.
>>98226329thanks. needs a matte coat but I only have brush on so I'm not looking forward to it.
>>98226581Man i dunno. There were some pretty retarded rules-lawyers back then, too, you just didn't see them quite as often. I remember a guy trying to say that I couldn't use the meltabombs that Screamers of Tzeentch were default armed with, because they didn't have hands. Despite hands not being a requirement in the rules anywhere. Or people trying to say that the wound allocation rules required you to remove the sorcerer in a rubrics squad if an odd number of wounds were dealt because he was the only 1-wound model in the group, despite them clearly and explicitly saying the opposite.
>>98226557Nothing you can do now, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. Playing with retards will get you the exact same results you would get during any other edition; they'll find something to argue about until they're blue in the face regardless of rules. and FAQs. The general expectations of the game are skewed compared to other editions; newer players at my LGS only go for "good models" and don't care for anything else. On top of that, they really only run netlists.
>>98226546Greyshields are nothing like Blackshields
>>98226622That's why they are lame.
How good is Infiltrator this edition?
>>98226669for some dispositions/missions way better due to turn one scoring and actions, but you can't infiltrate and scout now so some units are worse.
>>98226608Yes but they were card out for being retards and shunned because they're retards. Now, those people are the norm, except instead of "these guys don't have hands!" it's more like "I can do this because the rules say this happens here and this doesn't happen until here so it doesn't affect this and because I have this, I ignore that rule and can do this even though it says I can't" and instead of being called a retard, everyone claps because he's clearly very good at the game or something.
>>98226684I had this meme idea of going CSM Deceptors and using Cultists, Legionaries and Blue Horrors, which all get Infiltrators. So no Scouts there.
>>98226704play deathguard tallyband instead with the new plague marine 1 cost. Nurgies and Poxwalkers.
>>98226715Why are you assuming I don't already own the models I need?
Fuck horus
>don't really look either like civilians who just worship chaos or actual robed fanatics>weird inbetween that looks bad, like a bunch of cosplayersjust nonsense
>>98226224brother owns a store
>>98226546This is such a retarded comparison. They aren't anything like blackshields.
>>98226483Why did ITC disappear? Idk shit about the competitive scene40k is supposedly having some renaissance in popularity thanks to the game and the upcoming movies and shit
>>98226737>he just wanted generic robed cultistsHoly Based
>>98225941>the armor corroded>the gun in pristine conditionoh come on man
>>98226765Marines are constantly having to scrounge gear its not that crazy
>>98226024Why are there even tournaments already
>>98226770Because we live in hellworld
>>98226608He was right about the melta bombs
>>98226024This is why HR departments are wastes of money btwThey do shit like this and then just make the workplace shittier, slow down turnaround, and lower product qualityIts shit like this I swear lolHopefully the dorks in your discord dont catch wind of your posts anonGodspeed
>>98226765the armor isn’t corroded, they intentionally paint it like that because it looks cooler.
>>98226691This has nothing to do with playtesters finding edge cases and FAQs existing to remove those edge cases.
>>98226769the armor is ceramite, not metal, not copper so wouldnt corrode.But you are right, in the end we paint w/e we want
>>98226780I dont benefit or gain anything from them other than farming comedic content to post here and on social media because theyre genuinely subhuman goyim to me and cannot rotate an apple in their head. This is corporate HR for 40k
>>98226241We need to dual wield them.
>>98226752GW bought them out and the only thing that changed was that stopped proactively banning things that were OP because that makes GW money. Compfags literally claim GW doesn't make things good to sell them because "other units that have been released have been mid". Literally Disney adult cattle for 40k
>>98226669I tried a DG list using Tallyband Summoners mixed with Flyblown Hosts to infiltrate 3x 6 Nurglings, 2x 2 Beasts of Nurgle and 2x 10 Plague Marines with characters. New 2" engagement range can make blocking up the board very easy if you can infiltrate and scout a bunch of stuff in.
>>98226765Iron doesn't get a nice patina, it just rusts.
When do they update the point costs for legend sheets? Start of edition? Codex release?
>>98226770Because the hobby is infested by mtg dropout wannabe esport comp fags who have literally nothing else. If we dont keep a steady stream of cattle hearing events for statchuds, they'll kill themselves and you'll lose more tournaments ticket sales anon
>>98226860Anon...
>>98226888You can't troll me, they said Legends will be on the app...
>>98226902That doesn't mean they are updating them. They don't.
>>98226904But for instance the Leviathan dread used to be like 210 points and now it's 160
>>98226909It didn't use to be legends. It hasn't been updated since being sent there.
>>98226914So that's how it works? I remember someone saying they update points at start of new editions...
>>98226737 I actually really like the champion and the lady with the mechanical arm but the rest are just so bland
Has it been clarified how something that reduces a charge roll when targeted works in 11th? Or does it just not until they clarify it?
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98226965lol get fucked ratfag
>>98226965D:
Today’s effort - contrast to get them tabletop ready as I want to start working on my Corsair battle forceSpeaking of;Do/would corsairs use spirit seers? I gave an Iyanden/Eldritch raiders force and as I already have two Iyanden spirit seers was thinking of doing infinity’s lament in Corsair colours. I guess I could say he’s an named void dreamer if not?
You know something went wrong when you haven’t seen anyone use the HH terminators for 40K.
>>98227002They're a bit small.
>>98227007For you
>melee edition>tau are overpoweredSo much for that
>Imperium does downright evil things to their own people in the name of 'survival' even though it's often not needed, and arr actively cruel and violent to everyone>40k 'fans' say it's wholly justified and will bend over backwards to say that the Imperium are good boys>Eldar do occasional evil things when given no other option but are otherwise diplomatic and will even ally with other factions, seeing inherent value in not just their own lives but that of some other races. Their central major flaw is that they're arrogant, as are literally everyone else.>40k 'fans' viciously call for the death of all Eldar and view them with utter contempt, lying or accepting fake lore about them simply off confirmation biasI'm tired, anons. I'm really tired. It feels like even Tau get more traction these days.
Will running my Armoured Sentinels as Scout Sentinels be fine or will I get WAAC(ed) in the face?
>>98227023>killing a million humans to save a single eldar>just occasional evil things
>>98227033The Imperium kills at least that many humans every week just through bureaucratic errors.
>>98227023>caring that everyone hates you irrationally what are you, gay? bask in the seething from retards envious of your mental superiority, and murder them.
>>98227027That's not a WAAC concern, it's a WYSIWYG one.
>>98225999remember they aren’t goffs though. they’re proper blood axes who love their camo.
>>98226157Bolt rifles are just slightly longer godwyns.>replaced boltgunClearly they didn't because they still exists on variety of units.
>>98227045I mean, the only difference (if I recall correctly) between the scout sentinel and the armoured sentinel is whether or not it is open-topped.
>>98227041There's a difference there, though.People hate guys like the MM because their lore specifically makes them utter bastards, which makes it fun to play around with that.Eldar have a ton of lore and background to flesh them out but they never get much fan attention outside of either porn or literally incorrect finger-pointing and bashing from other factions, and most of the latter seems hypocritical. It's not that Eldar shouldn't be considered evil, but rather that outside of here they get virtually no fun or positive attention.
>>98227056>replaced boltgunsthey replaced it on these fucks (even ones that objectively would have looked better with a shorter gun) which means I’ll have to use the boltguns I cannibalized from an innocent tactical squad to do it, and that matters TO ME.
Not sure if anyone cares, but there's this simple space marine painter website that lets you 'paint' a marine in GW colours if you wanna test something out a bit before painting the actual model.
>>98227041Seconded
>>98227077I think I used it a long time ago and have forgotten the name since lmao
>>98227067found the eldarfag
>>98227002gitchud40gay uses red butcher models for his termis and uses saturine termis for his slaughterbound
>>98227074It is so grim that they created Marines Plus, and were armed with Bolters Plus.
>>98227083Was that not obvious?
>>98227074>they replaced it on these fucksNo, they started with bolt rifles.
>man, you guys all suck>why does no one like us :(the galaxy was promised to the aeldar six trillion years ago
So, what's the detachment for IG artillery? I want to bring that, plus three outflanking Russes
>>98227067>blah blah “unfair” blah blah “people are mean to me :(“ blah blahto be honest, it sounds like you’re just a pussy, and deserve to be killed.
>>98227040>you slap around your brother, so its okay if I beat him up
>>98227067If you actually take all the 'lmao knife ear' banter seriously, I'd very strongly recommend turning your monitor off.
>>98227101>this is what the space elves unironically believe
This feels like some sort of falseflag to generate some eldar hate but I genuinely can't tell if it's that or just an eldarfag being retarded.
>>98227082It's Minhhua. Lots of different armours and stuff too although it is still just a digital representation.
>>98227101>>98227111Filthy monkeigh, stop killing us!>*stabs you with an eldar knife
let's all pray for the eldar in inquisition custodysave for the victim's father of coursethey dindu nuffinlike when they created slaaneshthey dindu nuffin
>>98227023>in the name of 'survival' even though it's often not neededDirectly shut down by the creator of the setting.
>>98227172damnthen i guess eldar really are just as much genocidal maniacs as everyone else
>>98227074I don't understand how primaris models are consistently so fucking boring
>>98226508Don't primaris marines have all the same geneseed?
>>98227181trying to appeal to the generic idea normies have about space marineswhen their gimmicks are what best distinguish them
>>98227185no
>>98227185Nope, the primaris augmentation is just a series of additional surgeries and modification of the original geneseed. A primaris salamander is still the using salamander geneseed. Thats why when the grayshields were sent back home they were sent to chapters matching their gene heritage.
>>98227190Sure I guess I agree with that, but what I'm trying to say is - when I look at the older marine models, there was something there that appealed to me that the primaris ones are lacking, but I can't actually describe specifically what that is. I can't look at the Primaris and say "it's missing this and this feature", all I know is their general appearance is unexciting and lame compared to the old ones.
>>98227199too smooth, i guessreal armor is sloped and detailedthere's barely any actual detail on these
>>98227207I think that's it. The old models, because of the smaller proportions, had a greater ratio of detail to smooth plate. The new ones scaled up the size but instead of adding detail they actually TOOK AWAY details and compounded the problem.
>>98227172pretty sure Abnett and maybe Haley are the only ones that get the idea of thousands of different fiefdoms that happen to obey the tithes etc. the recent book 'Hive' encapsulates that pretty well.
>>98227215>maybe HaleyEven if he gets that bit right, he just sucks in general. Bad dialogue, bad prose, bad pacing, bad action scenes. Can't stand his garbage.
>>98227172Eldarfag btfo, as is natural.
>>98227137why did the drukhari short webway stocks just 2 days before the horus heresey?
>>98227235kae-morag, monkeigh
>>98227116Eldar 'fans' will do mental gymnastics just to fit their absurd victim complex and cry foul the moment you point it out. The new Aeronautica show proved just how terrible they are since they were given an inch and they took a mile, even though everyone knows how the show is going to end.
>>98227195That’s partially true, primaris gene cultures in some of fluff also have lower rejection rates compared to the older more degraded or mutated ones so it’s less likely to kill an aspirant due to rejection. It’s still a modified version of the original that produces the extra organs. I always wondered how many marines have geneseed organs grown from multiple donors since some organs fail or break down when grown from the initial starter material of the progenoid.
chaos is so gay and everyone who joins it is retarded>I'm going to collect the faction that is all retards who betray humanity and make everything worse for everyone!yeah ok bro
>>98227066>The only difference between these doors is one's open and one's closedI mean, that's a big enough difference. Maybe you can add a sticker so it looks like a glass window? Then none could tell you different.
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>>98227261Enjoying your 10,000 years of galactic suffering? You'll love the next part.
>>98227172>There are better ways it could do thingsYet they never elaborate what those things are. For every innocent torched by the inquisition a thousand more are saved when they root out the start of chaos corruption. For every xenos race eradicated which may have been an ally are 20 more hostile or tainted. The dogmatic religous ferver propogandized into the population since birth is what keeps that guardsman sane as he holds the line between his people and the endless horrors of the galaxy.The imperium of Mankind may not be nice, but they are doing the right thing. Kindness is a luxury of peaceful times, granted by men who forgo kindness to create that peace.
>>98227261>I'm a good little boy who needs to make the world better for others!lmao fuckin cuck.
>>98227215>pretty sure Abnett and maybe Haley are the only ones that get the idea of thousands of different fiefdoms that happen to obey the tithes etcNo, I think that also. They are alright.
>>98227261Some men just want to watch the galaxy burn
>>98227261>I'm going to collect the faction that is all retards who betray humanity and make everything worse for everyone!This, but unironically.
>Tau'nar points increased when taking more than oneI want to know if this was a decision that was intentional or if it was just caught up in a wave of these.
Don't worry guys, Ulthwe is getting ready to fight the Iron Warriors and Ynnead's about to be a big deal again! Things are definitely going to turn around for the Eldar soon!
>>98227275cope and seethe monkey, you are and always will be a dull barbarian
>>98227329Yvraine will be raped, murdered, and eaten by Slaanesh himself and someone will claim this.
>>98227288>>98227261I want chaos guys to be right – it IS the Primordial Truth of the universe, the end of all voyages and culmination of every cycle. Death and rebirth and pain and glory.But no. They gotta be objectively UGLY and EVIL and SPIKY. They flay babies and piss in fountains for fun. The good guys just HAVE to be justified, let their sacrifices not be in vain! Ah! D:Both the Imperium and Chaos could be right – the Imperium the survival of mankind, Chaos the apotheosis of the spirit.Instead we're left with evil ugly chaos and heroic justified imperium in gleaning armour (all SM are Ultramarines :D!), lest we forget who's the good and bad guys.We truly are children playing with toys. Warhammer 40k.
>>98227331>>98227067
>>98227002I used them, but terminators are kinda mid in 40k
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>>98227341fucking saved
>>98227334thanks chat gpt
Tau are space Americans.But I painted my Tau like Canadian Griffon helicopters.Also I always said my Tau were mind controlling the gue'vesa. But they're still better armed and armored than imps.
>>98227172>he posted it againSame interview he states "I always thought of the Imperium as a vast self-serving bureaucracy in which no-one really knew what they were doing but they continue do it out of a sense of tradition and routine - so status and power become bound up with all kinds of half-baked assumptions, received wisdom and superstition."The Imperium is a ultra-conservative bureaucracy that has no qualms about horrid work conditions, squashing dissent with overwhelming force, or routinely sending meat waves into battle. Not because those things are necessary, but simply because "that's just the way we've always done it."
>>98226083Nigga you are being disingenuous
I have a spare sonic blaster and blastmaster from the old noise marine upgrade pack sitting around. Which CSM special and heavy weapon would they work best as proxies for, you'd say?
I'm still undecided which disposition I want to be.Purge is really simple and easy, and you can just unga bunga and do fine. And all the early playtesting seems to concur, people are saying it's both strong and easy.But part of me has always liked objectives and winning through not just killing stuff, and so Hold is kind of appealing too. And that one also seems to be relatively simple, you just stand on objectives. Purge and Hold are appealing in their simplicity.My two favorite detachments are Bringers of Flame (purge) and Champions of Faith (disruption), so that might make it easy to decide. One of my favorite and most used detachments is already one of the dispositions I'm considering. Keep it simple.I do wonder if in the future they're going to change this system. I think it would make sense for detachments to be associated with like 2 or 3 dispositions, since there's nothing inherently "disruptive" about champions of faith for example, and for example Penitent Host could easily also be Purge yet it's currently Hold. They could do another sweep over all of these and easily justify lots of them having two+ detachments.I'm also a diehard contrarian, so part of me wants to play Disruption because that's generally the most random and different one, and has you jump through hoops to do things, and early feedback is that people think it's a bit harder.
>>98227389not only are you hours late, you're also wrong!
>>98227096>what's the detachment for IG artilleryNone. Those guys think they do artillery
>>98227390Literally the same weapons, can't think of anything else.
does the guardians kit come with enough special weapons to max out the legal allotment?the webstore doesnt have sprue photos
>>98227383Chudsisters, our response?
Sisters I painted in the last two months. I regret building some of the second squad to look too similar to the first squad.
>>98227458blood axe nob is done! super happy with how the camo came out.
>>98227331Your factions exists to be laughed at and insulted.
>>98227471his back shows more of the camo pattern.
>friday tomorrowlooking forward to another weekend of watching footy while painting
>>98227261It isn’t a good look for the imperium when citizens see the disease and shit god and think that it is a good deal.
>>98227483>juneteenth tomorrowshould I make the next thread edition and question juneteenth themed?
>>98227494racists will be out in force, that play a game based off racism
was just at my flgs, some newcomer was talking to some guys there about where to start and one of them straight up started talking about the need for battleline units so you can sticky objectivesi can't even
>>98227499one of the biggest complaints i have about modern 40k is that the rules change so often that its legitimately difficult just to get everyone in an area agreeing on what the rules actually are. it feels like if you dont keep up with it every week you can end up wrong or out of the loop every time you talk about it.
>>98227341as an eldar fag I will be appropriating this based reaction image
>>98227494I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I'd rather you not
>>98227261>Everyone will burn in hell when they die>May as well cozy up to/work for a duke of hell so that it's the devil I know and I'm only 80% fucked instead of 100% fuckedMakes sense to me anon
Anybody here used a nail stamper for putting on symbols to dodge decal stuff?I’ve been looking at custom nail stamping plates for 40k miniature stuff like symbols.Are they worth it and what service is best for custom ones and can basic acrylic be used?
>>98225923Been in a real flow state with painting at the moment, here’s a lord exultant
>>98227538i was just thinking personally as a beginner, the ruleset is pretty much the last thing on my mindalas, i'm a fat autistic sperg so i did not join the conversation to offer my two cents
>>98227545I’ll respect your opinion and won’t do it then. while on the topic of thread editions and questions, do you have any good ideas for some? I’ve kept it mostly ork related because I like them :D with a couple marines malevolent ones here and there, but I’ve only got a few more ideas off the dome before I’m all out.
>>98227562oh my fucking god that leopard print is so sexy. I got to paint my emperor’s children soon.
>>98227562That leopard print cape is awesome, I like the power sword too. well done anon
I think there's an easy way to make combat patrol good as a game mode. Use MESBG rules. MESBG was built for bigger than a squad of guys who act independently, and scales nicely to a platoon level with leadership bubbles producing soft squads without locking them into coherency and formal teams that move and act together.
Oh wow, the 40k guard has the most creative freedom for original custom stuff among all the 40k factions.Time to homebrew an original regiment:>aesthetics inspired by world wars and Cold War >green, brown, greys to black>coin toss decides if vehicle heavy or infantry heavyYep it is guard time.
>>98227554https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMd_Ix6ZGcg
>>98227618You've inspired me, I will buy some Zulu minis to make a Guard regiment
>>98227618>choosing a rapeable characterWhy?
>>98227261Chaos is the primordial truth
>rules now state MW from hazardous tests can go on any model in the squad>MFW the squad plasma gunner's face gets melted off and the commissar tells me to pick up his gun next
>>98227628GW sold this back in the day.>your ratling
>>98227629The only rape victims in 40k are the Eldar.
>space marines and orks in launch box have a shared decal sheetabsolute bastards
>>98227620No Goobertown. You conan obrian clone.I’m not paying for your overpriced 40k aftermarket stuff.It will only go towards more dead hookers in your basement.
>>98227096None of the detachments particularly buff artillery. Even the "siege regiment" which is explicitly the artillery detachment, just gives you off map artillery support instead of buffing your artillery units.
>>98227639you dont have to buy the goobertown brand stamper, just watch the fucking video its just basic how to use stampers technique, it applies to any brand
>>98227618I've always kinda liked the idea of a primitive worlder regiment that goes full classical antiquity with it. Bronze flak armor, red uniforms, crests, capes; tanks with eyes painted like triremes. Shit like that.Guard is just on the expensive and annoying to transport side.
>>98227096You can bring a baneblade that gives cover to models behind it. Make up sideskirts that cover the sides all the way to the floor on it so people "can't see your models past it from their bases" which is a thing. With a dozer in front that spans the whole front.Outflanking leman russes means one turn of lost shooting. You outflank the lighter stuff like hellhounds instead. They can be focussed and dropped fast. The melta hellhound loadout is popular for this.
>>98227636also>no blood axes>no deathskulls>no black templars>no marines malevolent
>>98227663i've got like 10 black templars transfer sheets left over from an army i no longer have.think people will pay money for them?
>>98227628No you won't.
>>98227650Oh okay.Has anyone here used a custom stamp making service?How long did the commission take and were the results good and what service?
>>98227652What even is or are the best thing(s) to use to transport a full guard army easily?
