Doggy style Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98218259 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread questionSo, new rules, am i right?
The army of renown for sigvald does catch my eye, but I wonder, would armies of renown just be better if they were premade lists? There’s not much options to pick from, and sigvalds aor sadly has more options than most other aors provide.
>>98233450>TQYeah, you are.GHB 2026-2027https://gofile.io/d/gXym1P
>>98233450>meanwhile the one Lumienth guy looking out at his zen garden
>>98233450I know the shrine luminor terrain is deceptively big but holy shit that's megastructure sized
>>98233612Fairly sure it's a whole castle on a hill, not just a shrine
>>98233450Holy shit, that anvil of apotheosis hero creator is fucking OLD. I thought it would be usin' the newer rules they added in 4e but good lord it's not. Does an updated one exist anywhere or what?
>>98233656I don't think so. Some anon made one years ago and nobody had a heart to cut it from op
>>98233656Our op is mostly there for decoration honestly Though I think making a new mega could be worth a try.
>>98233524That's nice but it triggers me to see that the pages 1-8 were omitted.
>>98233450We really need more tongue drake models.
>>98233656AoS is so comp driven now I'm surprised they even included AoA in 4th but interest was low right out of the gate because 99% of the armies didn't have one 3rd edition had a comfy PtG + AoA scene at my lgs but 4th nuked it into oblivion and suddenly no one could tolerate just using 3rd PtG
>no Man Reads BookThat's disappointing. Now I'll have to wait weeks to know what Glup Shitto has been up to since last I checked in.
>>98233943it's sad to watch his videos now, he's so checked out of AoS 4th
Is it just me or the new HoS rules are written like an over complicated contract with excessive amount of loops for simple shits? Also is it really made for a game to have fun with friends?
>>98233951Meh seems alright to me. Slaanesh has always been more complicated to play than the average army. It's slaanesh after all.
>>98233951Idk it feels appropriate for it to be a techy army.
>>98233450Why the fuck did GW make the new Lizardmen so sexy and hot?
>>98233993That's a Seeker Demon
>>98233993I think that's a you problem anon
>Put slaanesh dice in shopping cart>go do some chores rq>It sells out when I get backThats so fucking stupid bro.
>>98234144a real slaanesh follower would've bought them instantly, 10 of them and then never open the box.
>>98234201I was hesitating because I was debating whether or not to get the battleforce/other stuff too. I already have too many armies and I have a sigvald but 150 bucks for a battleforce seemed like a nice deal.
>40k box releasing todayfinally, ogres soon trust the plan.Speaking of, looks like their spearhead is gone
How's the new cities of sigmar book? I like their fluff and it seems like they've a roster than can participate in all phases of the game.
>>98234329if you like modern diversity and inclusion, potato faces and imperial guard from 40k, its the army for you.
>>98233950Who isn't
>>98234329the army seems good, internal balance seems well thought out too
>>98233656>>98233660I’ve tried editing the OP text before with more updated resources when I’ve made threads and someone would always change it back. This one exists for 4e format warscrolls.https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/
>>98234462>modern diversity and inclusionGod forbid an army not be composed 100% of white men in a setting where full military mobilization is a must
>>98235006Oh, god. You’re gonna get him started again, anon. First he’s gonna go on about women historically not being in combat roles, than some bullshit about “Africans and Indians in European style armies” but it would be “really cool if they had their own African and Indian themed armies”. I know the play book, it’s the same old song and dance every time.
>>98234462>modern diversity and inclusion -NuCoSHey Anon look it's an elf on a horse! This is exactly how """diverse""" CoS is given mounts are now the pinnacle of diversity. It means every army is by default DEI because they have a man on a horse. So I think your statement is a bit off! Surely if every army has mounted characters it means they're diverse, unlike say having a trifecta of races working together which obviously would be a monolithic ethnic block.
>>98235077Nta but I have no clue what the fuck you are talking about
>>98235109To that asshole, old CoS which had a trifecta of races working in tandem to achieve a new world, is more diverse then NuCoS. Because nobody yelled about DEI or saw any similarities when CoS first came out. Ergo it follows that his idea of DEI must mean Dude On A Horse, now thay the army has been limited to this and Dudes On Bigger Horses. This standard means all AoS armies are now DEI, like somehow Seraphon and Sylvaneth. In fact the only non-dei army would be KHO given how it's just dorfs on boats.
>>98235076Anon might have a point if this were Warhammer Fantasy or a historical wargame where geography, geopolitics, and genetics matter. But they don't matter shit in AOS. Different people are everywhere, so he can suck a fat dick.
>>98235167Based schizo >>98235228CoS looking like an average new york sitcom is perfectly in line with the lore™ though, which is kind of funny since it was almost certainly not made with this in mind, it just happens to work out.
>>98235167diversity/DEI is used in the context of human ethic phenotypes not fantasy races, you autist
>>98235077>Hey Anon look it's an elf on a horse!Looks like Autarch riding something which is certainly not a horse
>>98235077>unlike say having a trifecta of races working togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYidb1LvMs8Oh no so original.Wait wait let me guess their leader is a barbarian-like human with giant pauldrons?
>>98234326they have to reveal them first
>>98234326>ogres soonOops, more vampire releases
>>98235077>>98235006Well a ching chong, bing bong bix nood muh fugga we wuz medieval kweenz to you too, reddit subhumans.
>>98235551We can have bothWe used to be a proper game
>>9823432640k will have a whole month dedicated to it minimum if not two as it enters a made to order run we'll get Underworlds and BL only
>>98235561Kislev for TOW can't release fast enough I'm going to try and spruce up my kosargi for Slavic mercs presuming new Ogors get a RoR for Order
>>98235596>brits>making anything with eastern slavs in near future
>>98235646Ukrainians are the cossacks mate, we love our slavs
>>98235596They did do the whole Cursed city thing you know
>>98235796>Ukrainians are the cossacks matehmmm>Gets employed by Russian Tsar for military and settler work in Siberia and Caucasus>used by said tsar(that also had a title of feldattaman) as either fast attack troops or a way to put down dissidents>during the russian civil war they overwelmingly side with the white forces(the same that fought with Ukrainian nationalists)Seems legit.(Also wish chokha was used more in fiction)
>>98235902One hero miniature is bit different from a cathay scoped range?
>>98233571>my basement got no business looking like this!
>>98234462>if you like modern diversity and inclusion, potato faces and empire from WHFB, its the army for you.Fixed
>>98236271It's kinda bullshit Cathay are just like LRL with living gods fighting alongside themAt least give them another Valten or something
>>98236285Dragon primarchs were such a strange way to do fantasy china. One of its defining features is the succesive dynasties and all the court intrigue that goes along with it (which the chinese fucking love by the way). Having 5 (?) immortal siblings immediately blocks that, effectively cutting off one of the defining characteristics of what a fantasy china would be (and again, one that is very appealing to the chinese audience).Instead we get the same handful of primarchs occasionally quabbling, I really don't get that decision. It's boring if they're immortal.I guess they jusy really needed characters that could work in both tow and total war?
>>98236271>Chinese sensitivity teamI know how easily offended they can get. If their culture is in a setting, if it is not treated like the center of the universe, they get pissy
>>98236342You would be suprised how easy is and I quote "hurt the feelings of 1.3 billion people"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people
>>98236374Even when you hurt the feelings of 0.1% of Chinese people, it's still 1.3 million of angry people. Make it 1% and it's 13 million.
Silent People...
>>98236536
>>98234103Don't tell me you don't get horny looking at them?
>>98236539Let me guess, you're the retard who thought generic theropod pelvic bones are actually penises?
>>98236547What the fuck kind of incident could this possibly be referring to?
Consensus on the new GHB?It looks fine to me, I'd rather play this than the last one.
>>98236632Be a lot cooler if it wasn't a $60 subscription service.
>>98236560Fairly self explenatory
>>98236547Nope, just look at their chests and abs.
>>98233450>DoggyWho needs dogs when you have centaurs?
>>98236374>It's a real pageHoly shit I thought you were memeing. I can't even think of the words to describe how I feel about this. Pathetic and maybe manipulative come to mind. But it's just weird and so infantilizing of CCP to do something like this.If Cathay were to actually fit in right at home with Warhammer there would honestly be more civil wars and cannibalism. Warhammer Age of Sigmar.
>>98236993Kek. You know it's odd mawtribes of all people got two faction terrain pieces
>>98237752Uhhh...anon...?
>>98237752Did you mean to post that, champ?
>>98237752erm... nice ogre cosplay?
>>98237752Christ. How awful
>>98237774No, this is what I get for trusting thumbnails while phoneposting.
>>98238076You do realise you can delete images, right
>>98237752>>98237761>>98237774>>98238004>>98238011>>98238076>>98238093
I legit thought this was his actual choice of image for an ogor post
>>98238128You may have deleted it, but we know
its still worth coming to /aosg/ sometimes
So, when are we getting scourge of Aqshy battlescrolls?
This place really slows down to a crawl on the weekends damn. It's good to know you guys aren't all antisocial tards though.
>>98238311This week probably
is Darkwater not getting any expansions? Fuck me, I was hoping for an early dwarf woman before the end of edition books
>>98238827They added rules for like 10 extra heroes, didn't they? At least a full ghoul squad was in WD
>>98238206That wasn't me. I'm not retarded enough to take a picture of my hairless, pillsbury dought boy body from the side and then not even have my dick in frame because it's covered by the fat of my gut and thighs. Plus a hank hill I have no idea why he would even take a picture like that. Who was he trying to show off to? What women would see that and go "Yes."
>>98238798Isn't he described as a cool scorpion thing?
>>98238827OMFG even pro painted modern sculpts look like garbage
>>98238872At this point i'm not sure if it was the actual description or someone's interpretation of what little glimpse we got
>>98238893The mockup shoop one anon made is so good I really hope he looks something like this instead of just another bloodthirster
Average day in the ruins of Embergard
>>98238872not really, we got an extremely vague glimpse that may or may not just have been a metaphorical vision, and that one mentioned a bladed or scorpion like tail or something, but again it was a vision, someone was looking at mortal khul and seeing something else, he hadn't ascended yet.but also there was a white dwarf with a scenario involving khul and in there they suggested using a normal demon prince.gw is not beholden to any real pre-existing design with him, so who knows, I'll be surprised if they're sticking with the idea of a scorpion tail.
>>98238965I just hope he looks different from the other 6 or so "big red muscle guy with wings" khorne daemons they've done over the years.
>>98238978It would be kinda funny if you could field 8 different units that all look the same.
>>98238981>looks into 40kha-ha yeah...
>>98238981yeah haha could you imagine...
>>98233524where battl plan
>>98238889>tourist thinks that's pro painted kek
maybe sylvaneth should have stopped being elves altogether
>>98239198their 6th edition redesign will do just that but in 2016 they still had to ween off the whfb elfoidscan't go full cold turkey
>>98239306with their first battletome they only had treemen and dryads from fantasy, they could have made alarielle a moth and the revenants not like elves.Now it's too late to walk back from those decisions without having to redo way more kits.
>>98239306Kurnothi are just wood elves plus kurnous
>>98239320>Now it's too late to walk back from those decisions without having to redo way more kits.an opportunity to sell the same army again to the current playerbase? splendid
>>98239340What they did to blightkings was despicable
>>98239351This may be my most contrarian take but I always thought old blight kings looked like shit. Just too cartoony for my taste.The amount of bits was 10/10 though and the new ones are a massive downgrade in that regard, even if I do prefer their look.
>>98239386The new ones are more cartoony. The issue was they're StD chaos warriors of Nurgle whereas the new AoS designs are distinctly Nurgle
>>98239545>The issue was they're StD chaos warriors of Nurgle whereas the new AoS designs are distinctly NurgleI think that not even you have an actual idea of what you're trying to say.
>>98239351dogshit taste detected, new maggotkin is kino
>>98239584Blightkings were designed for WHFB, to be played alongside Chaos Warriors. They share design elements that compliment one another. Rotswords and new Blightkings do not. The similarities are superficial. Different helms, different tassets, unique design elements not present in StD.
>>98239545how are the new ones more cartoony?
>>98239632even more unrealistic helms obesity instead of diseased bloating no nipples
>>98239603Blightkings didn't use the same armor designs as normal chaos warriors.The only significant difference between old nurgle models and newer nurgle models is that the newer ones have way more uniform units instead of a larger variety of designs.
>>98239661>even more unrealistic helms>obesity instead of diseased bloatingI don't think that's really true, but even if it was, it doesn't really have much to do with cartoonyness does it?>no nipplesthey do have nipples and fuck you for making me checkalso none of this shit compares to the random spikes old blight kings had, let alone the bell and nurgling in the stomach
>>98239737>unrealistic helmets doesn't make them cartoony wat
>>98239737>cartoony is when chaos has spikes>cartoony is when nurgle has nurglingsYou've lost the plot
>>98239737>nurgling in the stomachbiggest downgrade holy shit I forgot about this
>>98239766correct""unrealistic"" =/= cartoony>>98239781There's spikes and then there's whatever random shit blightkings had. To be fair it was present on a lot of whfb nurgle stuff, like the lord of plagues, but still.And yes the fucking nurgling hanging out in the guys stomach is cartoony man idk what to tell you.
I simply do not like the new blightkings because they don't have any bug parts
>>98240049Did old ones have any insectoid bits?
>>98240053Couple of spindly arthropod-like legs yea
anyone know what kit this head is from?
>>98240059You got pics? Default never showed that
>>98240072Looks chaotic. Undivided of some kind
>>98240072chaos warrior head from the sprue of the old start collecting
>>982400722019 etb chaos warriors, for the champion specifically I think.>>98240112You can see them on the front guy here. I meant arms, sorry >>98239340
>>98238961Lmao
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ezb6qskh/sunday-preview-battleforces-mkiv-space-marines-and-a-hero-of-the-imperium/Nothing week, but...>Here at Warhammer Community, we’ve got an exciting Warhammer Preview event on the horizon – look out for information about that tomorrow.
>>98240197New tow stuff or new aos stuff, in either case it'll be of interest to many anons here.I just hope it's not more 40k shit...
>>98240053>>98240112not mine
>>98240247That's a real head?
>>98240197Marine on the left looks like AI again, look at those helmet grills
>>98240508But GW said they wuld never ever use it!And they hold all their artists to the highest of standards and examin every detail for errors!
>>98240508tbf basically all of the HH mainres look like now since they're models that have gone through a bunch of photoshop filters on them
>>98240197when's the last time we got an AoS novel?
>>98240648Starseer's Ruin, I think.
>>98240658which is getting a paperback release next week
>>98240127appreciated. I figured thats what it had to be but didnt see the head on the webstore. explains why
>>98240197>>Here at Warhammer Community, we’ve got an exciting Warhammer Preview event on the horizon – look out for information about that tomorrow.I bet on a new game
>>98240658Was that good? I heard it's an actual Lizard POV but GW likes to make a book "about" a character or faction and barely have their POV in it. Like Olynder's book.
>>98240871mosscairn with a steel chair
>>98240880I haven't finished it but it has a much higher proportion of Lizard POV than other books do of their titular character. There's still plenty of CoS shitter POV, though.
>>98240880its solid with actual lizardmen pov's. its a bit weird about the CoS dudes trying to steal lizardmen gold to be rich, because gold isnt a currency in lethis. But it also has some fun details like a shitty beer being named stormcast because it always comes back.
>>98240956>Literally the Huntsmarshal's Expedition in Total WarNot sure if funny or sadly derivative.
>>98240980Getting some real boss baby vibes from this...
>>98240980>>Literally the Huntsmarshal's Expedition in Total WarNo, it's not that, they were part of a larger dawnbringer column meant to reinforce a different battlefield, but the protagonists and a very small group of freeguilds basically sneak off to try and get some gold, with the idea being that they could regroup before anyone important notices their absence or get rich and fuck off for good, or get something interesting and justify their little escapade to their superiors by bringing an useful artifact or bribe back, It's not an official expedition of some kind.
>>98240980>Huntsmarshal's Expedition>Total WarNot only the comparison doesnt work, you are applying it to Total War when the guy is atleast from 8th ed Empire armybook (possibly from Conquest of the new world or Lustria 2004 and 2006 campaigns, but i cant find a source on that)
>>98241112To be fair, the special character not only didn't exist before 8th, and was completely and utterly ignored by people until total war, but the whole idea of dropping him into lustria or having him lead an expedition was also novel to total war.
>>98240980>sadly derivativeYes, because adventurers seeking gold from the Aztecs is so inspired? AoS is supposed to be WHF fanwank anyway, for better or worse
>>98240980>lizardman plot point from the 90's that's carried forward in the sequel series to WHFB>my videogame spinoff did it first!go back to your stupid general
My country can't pay footy to save their lives there better be some good reveals next week to compensate
>>98241830Sorry to hear that Turkanon. What's the weather in Berlin like anyway?
>>98241838They might be the only guys having a worse world cup than us
>>98241893Belgian?
Just in case there are any Turks in the thread
>>98239340these guys were kinda generic but I do like how good they were for bits. I can understand why people might be upset that the kits gone but the replacement(s) were an undeniable upgrade in terms of coherency. I will miss the axes and the swords though, and I still think they still have a place in maggotkin as retooled pirates for spume or whatever.
>>98242484
>to Khrone Archi projected out of a blood lake>to Nurgle from a locust swarm>Skave, from weed fumesWhat would Tzeentch and Slaanesh one be made of
>>98236318GW writters were making marinewankery for so long they become allergic to cool succession wars stories.
>>98243370>What would TzeentchBirds because what would actually be fitting for him got cucked by >SlaaneshSmokes and mirrors
>>98243370Tzeentch would be him showing himself out of Warp flame to a demon herald
>>98240197> square pauldronAI drew this.
>>98243436well spotted
>>98243361You're not in the World Cup Ranjeet
>>98243469India not making it I can kind of understand since they care more about cricket but how the fuck do the chinese keep failing?Keeping in mind traditional games of course
>>98233450>>98233461>>98233571Dead game lol
>>98243483But enough about tow
>>98240956>its a bit weird about the CoS dudes trying to steal lizardmen gold to be rich, because gold isnt a currency in lethisNobody gives a shit about internal consistency of AoS lore because nobody gives a shit about AoS lore, not even the writers. They're just there for a paycheckIt's just so painfully obviously a changed-just-enough-to-be-copyrightable version of WHFB that it kills all the immersion, and nobody can get invested in it
New UW rumours from the guy who called a bunch of them before:-new VS box in september-1 more warband coming before that, possibly shown off at the upcoming preview-also maybe another sylvaneth warband in the works, this time focusing on the trees so not kurn*thi
On the topic of Nu-rgle and their recent release wave, does anyone feel like factions (chaos especially) are having their units reduced to mere functions? >10 man batteline troop with standard bearer, musician, and champion.>10-20 man screen/tar pit chaff >10 man archer mob >+1 attacks melee hero>priest 1>Slow 5 man elites that hit really hardIs it just me being a paranoid retard or does anyone else feel like this happening slowly but surely?CoS just got some big armored foot knights in 5 man units and it feels out of character for the plucky humans to get big heavyweights that aren't Ogres who need constant direction and oversight from a captain.I hope tzeentch doesn't eventually get their chosen equivalent. There should be some identity between the cult armies.>>98239340>>98243013>>98239351The OG blightkings were cool because each one looked like an individual champion. Their lack of uniformity is what I liked most. Each one probably has their own name and legend and achievements they brag about. It makes them scarier when you face them down and realize they are unkillable. Then they maul you and you get cleaved in half or have your head turned to pulp. They were much scarier than rotswords. Granted rotswords are cool in their own way but I wish we kept the old blightkings as more of a hammer and the nu-blightkings were more of an anti-caster tech piece. As of now rotswords just kind of hold the line reasonably well and can dish out huge damage with a Lord of plagues that has gift of febrile frenzy. I heard that nu-blightkings are actually not bad but internal balancing makes them redundant. You'd rather have 10 plaguebearers at 2 wounds each for 130 points.
>>98243533>this time focusing on the trees so not kurn*thiI want to believe.
>>98243544That's a function of 4th rules not miniatures design but I expect more from UW, Spearhead, etc
>>98243533>new VS box in septemberOgors Vs Dorfs
>>98243561Could also be CoS
>>98233450Soon
>>98243544Idk I think those are just incredibly basic unit archetypes that most armies are going to have access to. I mean how could they not?
>>98243544theres obviously going to be some overlap with unit archetypes but chaos, less so in aos but certainly in 40k draws from a particular template of armoured dude. i prefer the new blightkings as it makes them more unique from chosen, instead of just being "nurgles version of chosen" which granted they are the most dedicated nurgle followers but they are blight kings who have a different role in the game. although a dumb weird anti priest/wizard thing. Their rules could definitely be done better
>>98243533God I hope the new Sylvaneth band has an alternate Branchwych sculpts
>>98243777she looks pretty cool no
>>98235077What in the fuck is this dipshit even trying to say? Are you comparing negroes to horses?
>>98243533>this time focusing on the trees so not kurn*thi>inb4 it's kurnoth hunters
>>98243791would be funny but I can't really see a kurnoth hunters warband that isn't just 3 normal kurnoth huntersUnless it's an ogre type situation where it's one kurnoth hunter surrounded by 3 random critters
>>98243797>no>>98243797>>98243791>>98243533ROOTKINGS
>>98243797>ogreErm, don't you mean Ogor™? Ogres only exist in Fantasy.
>>98243815>ROOTKINGSnot a thing
>>98243920Yeah, Reynolds left GW because of how much they disregarded his work. I'd be surprised if they came to past BUT Ghyran Duardin are common in lit and particularly in Gotrek + Grombrindal stories which seem to indicate the upcoming range. I'd expect a green bearded Druid style Runepriest Shaman or something tbhon, nothing major but a one off realm flavour hero like the battlemages CoS has. It'd stand out next to TOW.
>>98243930>which seem to indicate the upcoming range.>I'd expect a green bearded Druid style Runepriest Shaman or something tbhonlmaono
>>98243935>Fyreslayers + Dispossessed soup >A total coincidence
>>98243884Ogor is standard Azyrite. Ogre is an AAVE (Azyrite-Aqshian Vernacular Emulsion) alternate spelling :)
>weeks of Gnoblars purgatory, unknown if they'll be squatted or not It's not right
Before 4e my group was enthusiastic about AoS.We play battletech now, starting a campaign tomorrow. Not sure what this means.
>>98244003It means try to have fun.
>>98244003same, there's just no buzz around campaign play when there's no artefacts and such to award and what's there is all once per battle or 3+ D3 mw. everyone just plays spearhead because it's usually pointless to play full games when half the units have once per army abilities, once per round spells, etc and it's all over by round 2 thanks to comp heavy battleplans
>>98243930I feel like things like rootkings solely exist for background flavor (as many other little groups in these books do) and will never see tabletop unless they were made specifically for something like Warhammer Quest or Underworld. If Warcry was still a thing it'd be a decent choice for that too.
The witch elf models kind of piss me off. Every single model in the kit has a tactical rock as part of its sculpt, so your army looks incredibly samey the minute you table more than ten of them. My breed of 'tism doesn't allow for this, so now I'm forced to figure of twenty or thirty new basing ideas for my witch elves and sisters of slaughter. This is on top of all the shaving and greenstuff work I have to do to give there bodies some variety.
>>98244140The CoS models were like that that, almost every one has the same few tactical rocks regardless of being generic chaff, specialized infantry, or hero. It's so comical and unnecessary.
>>98244140Huh, I never noticed that. Seems really unnecessary too, most end up with feet posed perpendicular on the rocks anyway
>>98244166Yeah, I don't get it either. Why place both feet on rocks when they can simply be on the ground when it's exact same pose.
>>98239198Honesty, I always liked the insect models way better. I would kill for some Dunbine-looking bug knights
>>98244166I wouldn't mind it if the rocks were just seperate basing options you glue under the models, but they're not. They're position on the rocks causes a ton of issues too.Sure, I can sit some flat on the base, but others need some sort of terrain or decoration to balance on. >>98244160Are they? I've never actually looked too closely at the CoS range. If that's true then it's genuinely awful.I don't mind that sort of thing for character models you only run one of, like the ironscale or the gladiatrix, but if it's baseline units, those sorts of things should be optional.
>>98244140>so your army looks incredibly samey the minute you table more than ten of themWelcome to "options" where you make things perfectly customizable by making everything samey
>>98244019The last PTG was a shit show. Nothing to spend Glory on except more units you dont need, nonsense victory condition, custom faction terrain is either bad or a skull altar clone, DP costs for custom units are fucked so theres like 2 usable designs for them, seems to be missing like 30% of what should be there, oh look they sharted the missing stuff into white dwarf. Matched play is not better either.
>>98244217I hope they bring back the forest dragon but make it some kind of bug dragon hybrid thing. Can be the Spite Monarch or whatever >>98244229Just took a look and it seems like they do yeah, but they're so tiny it's hardly noticeable. Makes you wonder why the fuck they thought it necessary in the first place though.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kbdkr6ir/the-big-summer-warhammer-preview-tune-in-on-friday/
>>98244313there's a vid toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1GHJx21Ajw
>>98244313They said it's a new army being revealed for AoS in the preview trailer
>>98244337
>>98244313Fuckin hell Warcry players on suicide watch.>>98244337Take your bets, is it just Khazalid holds? It can't be ogre's if it's a "new army", something completely out of left field? Could this be the gundead faction!
>>98244313Toss up between a necromunda win or an AoS win. We are due for a big deal specialist games drop.
>>98244362>Could this be the gundead faction!I know you schizos are on about vampirates, but for some reason reading about them that way made me think about undead cowboys instead.
>>98244217it would have been cool if the beetle was just a creature on its own like the aracnarok or if the beetle was a forest god itself. i always thought some of these god models with companions could have just been the creature alone. like what if the sphinx on teclis's base WAS teclis, and when he ascended to godhood thats the form he took
>>98244368Necromunda rumours are that it's a new edition but it's apparently really shittyTOW might win if it's a just a full WoC refresh and a plastic chaos dragon.zero idea what LI will get
>>98244382>Necromunda rumours are that it's a new edition but it's apparently really shittyThis is probably the most egregious why the fuck would they launch a new edition
>>98244373I mean, Undead Cowboys would be functionally 2000% cooler than vampire pirates. Wouldn't fit AOS at all but holy shit that would be the sickest shit. There's something about wild west but horror themed that always sticks out as fucking cool as fuck.
>>98244373>american undead (wet)>american undead (dry)a better match than moon goblins and sun goblins
>>98244337Seeing as they kept mentioning 'big' and 'greedy' during their bit on the AoS preview, they are clearly revealing the ogres.
>>98244427>'big' and 'greedy'Gargant merc
>>98244419The joys of wild west undead with wagons, a bunch of guns and vampires in fancy frilly lacy outfits and parasols to prevent the sun from getting to them. Also undertaker and his half buried zombies. Could also have some more "traditional" styled designs.
>>98244362They mentioned "hungry", no way it's anything but ogres.
>>98244503Would that be classified as a "new army"?
>>98244508Could be if it's a bigger rework and/or a name change.
>>98244503Updating/Replacing almost the entire Ogor range for the first time in almost 20 years is functionally a new army regardless.
>>98244380Would've been sick, but probably would make them too different for gw to cash in on the "see? Your favourite character from whfb / tww has a cool new model!" bucks.Would probably have to imvent something more fitting for alarielle but teclis could work no problem.
>>98244419Cowboys are a bit too far ahead on the timeline inspirations, but I'll allow it.
>>98244308>Makes you wonder why the fuck they thought it necessary in the first place though.Something-something dynamic poses, something-something.
It's easy to forget, but Ogres are actually the last WHF holdout army still in AoS that hasn't gotten their big retooling yet.
>>98244579Only because they removed the others
Watch it actually be a compleat fucking wildcard nobody leaked or expected
>>98244567I figure you could do stuff with just standard overcoats and dried out corpses have it justified as like, "curse of aqshy" that affected several offshoot colonies for cities. So you've got guns, dried out bodies, dusters and funny wide brim hats to stop the heat. Then just have em as dried out husks or mummys and bam you got yourselves a faction.
>>98244579There is another
>>98244313>TOWfinally some fucking wood elves yeooo kurnothi
>>98244616>wood elvesAnon...
>>98244590nah
>>98244616Nah, the two head hint means Chaos Dragon, so TOW will get the most unnecessary Chaos Warrior update in the history of Warhammer. Maybe someday the Wood Elf rumor will come through, someday...Not even a single new Wood Elf model for TOW so far, btw. Not even a resin hero.
>>98244590GW has been very formulaic recently so no, sorry.
>>98244616That would mean something potentially interesting coming out of tow, and not induce chaos fatigue.
>>98244638How much fucking chaos warriors has gw released in the last 7 years? This'll be the third kit. And if some of those tlw rumours are true...All the while the 2004 kit is perfectly serviceable. Really odd.
>>98244590I'd pog out my gourd
>>98244887>And if some of those tlw rumours are trueI don't think they are, seems like they probably saw this specific chaos warrior kit and just slapped it down as TLW.
>>98244905It's happened the other way around before (obr chariot confused for tomb king stuff) so I suppose it's possible. Depends on where the rumourmonger gets his information from I guess.
>>98244887You can at least argue that removing the 2004 kits means GW can replace the old metal upgrade spruces for great weapons and halberds
>>98244927I've been a bit skeptical with a lot of TLW shit, feels too messy and inconsistent. Like "Oh there's gonna be 3 new human factions" then we find out that's literally just like a sentence off handedly mentioning them.Supposedly there's a massive time skip but no new characters and nothing else changes.
>>98244927there was no confusion about the chariot, the rumor was always explicit about it being an obr chariotand for the chaos warriors in tlw too there can't be no confusion because the rumors come from preprints of the books and boxes, since the rumormonger gets to know random tidbits about the fluff as well as the very names, there's no mistaking them when they're pitched against stormcasts in the images he's basing the rumors off
>>98244964So you're saying that GW is going to release a 3rd chaos warrior refresh? That's deathrattle skeleton tier stupid.
>>98244975YesWhat they did with skeletons was dumber though
>>98244983The skeleton thing is not that egregious imo. Ulfenkarn -> mutipart -> oh shit we fucked up we gotta fix itBut it is a little bit funny how you could end up with 3 variations of the same kit.
>>98244983Skeletons almost makes sense, you had the cursed city skeletons which were fine, then the shitty deathrattles that sucked and everyone (rightfully hated), and now we have the slightly better variation. So that's only 3 at least.
>>98244989>>98244990I'll stay on my opinion that the skeletons treatment was way dumber.They could have sold the cursed city sprue without an actual "multipart" kit and they would still have both swords and spears and banner, plus grave tokens and extra swarm units.They could have kept the ulfenkarn skeletons a different special unit and made proper skeletons on the style of the underworlds warband.They could have fixed the scale issue with the cursed city designs with any of the 2 iterations.
>>98244964I'll wait and see on the new Starter Box, but the rumors make it sound like a useless pile of shit. "Edgier Stormcast vs Spikier Chaos Warriors, literally two things we already have, and recently at that. Extreme Bloatmaxing.
>>98245066Cursed city skeletons share a sprue with the zombies is the problem
>>98245142>Extreme Bloatmaxing.Speaking of, how many faction ranges are still in the sub-twenty range? I know DoK and FS are around fifteen, and I think KO might have finally broken twenty.
>>98245408Hedonites and tzeentch as long as you dont really count the demons, really. Honestly my biggest probelms with those two ranges is that the demon range are crumbling apart, they really only have the greater demons and some one off pity release like fiends and...actually huh slaanesh has a bit of modern demon heros. Shame they're all named.
>>98245169hardly a problem
>>98245408I should update slaanesh
>>98244313No Warhammer Underworlds... Damn, there it goes another good game, what a shame that they had to fuck up the line before killing it.>>98244337Hopefully there is hint of the beastman returning>>98244606Please!
>>98245517It kind of is if you want to sell it as the basic skeleton kit? What?
>>98245652gw has had no problem selling units together in a few instances, even now the new orks share the sprue with gretchins
>>98245626underworlds is gonna get a random monday article. Anyways I think there are talks of a new game system being shown off too? Who knows. >>98245666eh... not really the same thing and i'd be curious if that makes it to the multi part kits.
>>98245685>the multi part kitsthey've paraded around the flexibility of that ork/gretchin sprue, they're not making a multipart kit just like they haven't made one for termagants or necron warriors, who also come with another small unit attached.
>>98244638they'll probably give something resin or plastic to everything that didn't get any love as a stop gap to 2e Something like spearhead boxes with new stuff, but battalions
>>98245692and clanrats too
>>98244567surprisingly enough, I think they fit better in fantasy where there is a well defined north america and also an excuse for dinosaurs, because cowboys and dinosaurs go together beautifully
>>98245816>I think they fit better in fantasy>I thinkI dont think you do.
>>98244567Cities DID have revolvers in the fluff way back when. Nothing like repeater rifles or the kind though, mostly stuff that maybe showed up close to the end of the American civil war. Obviously nothing model wise like that has showed up with the new cities re imagining. I think one of the gw sub thing had a gun or two that could maybe be related to a revolver, but it seems more like khadron stuff instead. Anyways they could have made ghur cool by having a cowboy warcry band set in it, have a whole campaign of these guys having to both be wary of darkoath tribes and the natural dangers the realm posses.
>>98244362suicide is overdue but I'm giving it until winter to give up, which is when side games usually drop though 3rd edition was due years ago by this point
>>98245816>where there is a well defined north americaThere isn't, and cowboys proceed every form of the colonial settler
>>98245666Zombies and skeletons are two wholly distinct multi-model units though, not characters or something like ripper swarms or necron scarabs.I don't think something like that had ever happened before.
>>98245893so throw them in spearhead
>>98245821I doAoS is better for factions whose aesthetic either can exist in a vacuum or is heavily tuned into one of the realms' themes: you can take a skaven citadel and drop it anywhere and it won't look particularly out of place, meanwhile if you're going to have a wild west themed faction you kinda need to have a wild west equivalent for them to inhabit, and the same is true for egyptians and chinese and slavs. For some of them you can get away by saying a realm is somewhat appropriately themed as a baseline, like the realm of death being affine to slavs, and the realm of light having some asian vibes, but where do you drop cowboys in aos? ghur would be the immediate answer, but then we have to confront the fact that this faction would be nowhere close to being defining for the realm like lumineth are for hysh, and that we would be worldbuilding a realm of human cowboys of which we are only ever going to see undead ones
>>98245893>Zombies and skeletons are two wholly distinct multi-model units thoughSo are orks and gretchens.
>>98245927You know what I mean, skeletons and zombies are of the same general size and "standing", gretchin are basically accessories to the orks. Like the pterodons in the hunters of huanchi. In fact you only get 5 of the little buggers per 10 orks.This whole discussion is moot anyway, since the orks and from a starter box and far more customizably than the ulfenwatch, who to my knowledge only have a banner to exchange.
As a new player, what is aesthetic of soulblight gravelords? I see a lot of zombies / skeletons, but I see those in pretty much every death army. I see vampires and...werewolves? I think? But they don't seem to have a lot of models. There's also a shit ton of characters.
>>98246031gravelords is a combination of two aestheticsFirst there's classic pseudo gothic dracula type vampire stuff. Most of the generic vampire characters fall into this category, as well as some of the older whfb holdovers modelsSecondly there's the eastern european look, which is present on most of the named characters, as well as on the skeletons (to a somewhat lesser extent)This is because a few years back GW released warhammer quest cursed city, which was heavily based on eastern europe aesthetics-wise (+ wolves, again, because of the cursed city story). The current skeleton look is in turn derived from their design in cursed city.Also most of the named characters are just recycled Cursed City models, that's why there's so many glup shittos in the range.
>>98246031soulblight inherited much of the theme of vampire counts from the previous game, which is a mishmash of gothic horror with a focus on your stereotypical draculas.Except warhammer also developed its bloodsuckers by stealing from "vampire:the masquerade", which means they have multiple separate bloodlines each with its own quirks and theme growing on top of the classic vampire archetype.The main bloodlines in AoS are:>legion of blood: descended from manfred von carstein, the most basic and quirkless types, jack of all trades kind of deal >legion of night: descended from neferata of lhamia, with a relation for vaguely more egyptian trinkets and snakes and seductive deceptive vampire girls, infiltrating and manipulating people >kastelai: knoights and knoight accessories, they try to follow a martial honor code to suppress their instincts who would have them behave like monsters >avengorii: vampires that lost control due to an accident and mutated into horrible monsters, they're a bit in denial about it>vyrkos: more slavic than the others and their quirk is having wolfy transformations, so they're both vampires and werewolvestechnically all of them make use of the various undead of the book, and also it's not unusual for armies to field stuff from multiple bloodlines, but if you ask me, the only subfactions with a good balance of having their own theme and fitting with the rest of the products are kastelai, legion of night and vyrkos.
>>98246110You mixed up blood and night.
>>98246153goddammit
>>98245169And Bats, Rats, and terrain
>>98246221
>>98246110nulahmia to me feels like the most different, simply because they sound like they should be using tomb kings miniatures instead of the soulblight ones (which you could totally do to be fair). Like we have 3 characters (neffy, sekhar, and the cado sidekick) and they have a pretty consistent theme that looks nothing like the rest of the range.Personally I feel like the generic vampires cover legion of night and kastelai pretty well, and all the cursed city stuff of course is very vyrkos.Avengorii are kind of odd though, I guess the skeletons and zombies work well for them but thematically they seem like they should be the fuck it we ball monster faction but soulblight have no monsters anymore lol. I mean we have the new dragon and the vengorian lord themselves I guess, but I feel like Avengorii would be the hardest dynasty to actually build a fluffy list around that also looks the part (again assuming here that you just use tomb kings shit as nulahmia)
>I’m so glad you wanted to play today Anon. I’ve been so excited to try out my SCE dragon list!!!
>>98246468I fucking knew you guys would post this again lmao
>>98245867>made ghur coolnot possible, they managed to make an entire Realm dedicated to being Conan the Barbarian lame and gay, GW literally cannot make anything cool to save their lives anymore
>>98245867>mostly stuff that maybe showed up close to the end of the American civil war. Obviously nothing model wise like that has showed up with the new cities re imaginingThe volley guns on the cogfort and gargants seem to be based on the vandenberg gun, so there's that at least.
>>98246523I'm afraid this isn't the same image as last time but an escalation: the blue dragon is even fatter than the previous we had seen
Is there a pdf of the new HoS rules?
>>98246553Which escalation league upgrade is this?
>>98246553Aw fuck you're right Also upon closer inspection did he replace the normal stormie crossbows with fucking ballistas?
>>98246583Yes, but he's using them as ballistas, given the base size.
>>98246589Nah, they're longstrikes, ballistas have a circular base while these are on ovals. Longstrikes are only slightly less ridiculously oversized, to be fair to the coomer.
>>98246609I thought longstrikes were the longbow types, but huh looks like they are part of that bird squad. Did not know that.
>>98235167They're upset there are curly haired and female heads on the sprues (That you don't have to use)
>>98246675I'm upset the kino aesthetics and lore were replaced by fat British cunts larping as medieval Germans in between their visits to Greggs.
Are there any pdfs of 4th edition for the Sylvaneth, DOK (better then the photo one from a little bit ago) and/or COS out yet?
>>98246540huh, thats true. Nice catch.>>98246741I've only seen the GHB.
>>98246708The only good kits for humans in old CoS were greatswords, the artillery and the freeguild general on griffonPlastic state troops were awful even back in whfb
>>98246708>medieval germansExcuse me, medieval czechs
>>98246783Not a fan of griff riders, gun riders, and flagellants?
>>98246741I posted screenshots of the entire DoK book a few threads ago. Search for an Imgur link as I just uploaded it into an album
>>98246553>he blue dragon is even fatter
>>98246468>Stormcast players genuinely believe they deserve to live
>>98246468wow, those are almost Warcraft level proportions both the furry fetish bait and the stupid-looking guns
>>98246468>>98246553Who gave this man access to a 3D printer?
>>98246468I'm torn about this image. On the one hand, the fact that those fat dragon models exist amuses me, but on the other, the fact that someone actually printed not only one, but two out concerns me.
>>98244606could you imagine
Does anyone recognize the belt bit here?
>>98247364Banner topper from Tzaangors.
>>98247396GW needs to fucking execute the eavy metal team for not letting them showcase all the details of a model because holy fuck man.
>>98247407Ok so ignoring that your sentence doesn't actually make sense, isn't the Eavy Metal team supposed to paint to highlight every edge and detail specifically to show off all the sculpted details?
>>98247424I think he means the photography. Even the large pictures, which that one is, are surprisingly low resolution.
