>>98234256
why did you make the OP gay?

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getting into the elf lore, at first I didn't like the conehead helmets but they're starting to grow on me.

So basically Eldrad is Ahriman if Ahriman were competent

>>98234256
That's a cool picture.
Know no fear.

>>98234256
Redditors look at that image, of the Space Marines facing off against Ork rape gangs and look you straight in the eyes and tell you actually the marine is the bad guy.

>>98234281
but the marine is the bad guy: the planet is rightful clay of the orks

>>98234281
>>98234281
>Ork rape gangs
I'm 95% sure orks don't have dicks, or sexual urges, or genders at all for that matter

>>98234263
Yes, that's why the eldar have the black library, and arhiman doesn't.

>>98234281
Are those redditors with you right now?

>>98234293
>50+ years of orkz calling themselves boyz
>um acktually they don't have a gender!

>>98234281
>Space marines
>good guys
You know what? Sure. Today space marines are good guys heroes about brotherhood and protection the people of the imperium.

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>>98234295

>>98234296
one just showed up here >>98234296

>>98234293
>>98234303
Someone post the BL slop about ork genders

>>98234303
boys gonna be boys, not rapists

>>98234303
I think they use "boyz" in a gender neutral sense, like we'd use "guys"

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>>98234310
>Melee armies can't stage
>Tau crisis suit teams are cheaper than guardsmen squads
Yep, it didn't take long but fuck 11th!

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>>98234281
Don't you see? The Imperium is evil!

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how's the collage entry coming along, anon?

>>98234303
You call yourself a man but you don't have sex either.

Do bonuses to charge and advance range stack, or is it max +/- 1 like some others?

>>98234321
having to compare to literal demons of hell in order to present yourself as relatively good is not the sound strategy you think it is

>>98234322
le le LE ecks dee XDXD ebin collage ECKS DEE XD :DDDD

>>98234331
hellblasters?

>>98234318
they use he/him to refer to each other in codex stories. they are only genderless in BL slop written by marxists, activitists and agitators

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I want to run a little experiment with this edition and see for how long I will be able to play the game before I'm so mind broken by the constant flood of errata and FAQs that I will have to other choice but to turn to Wahapedia.
I tried to read through the core rules in 40k App and it was a truly miserable experience. PDF rules are a bit better but they are already outdated so I will either have to constantly switch between the files or actually print them and add sticky notes with corresponding changes.
It is crazy to me that in our digital age GW still refuses to make a proper living rulebook app.

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>>98234330
>you're fighting to save humanity's soul against dark gods and their daemonic legions? that doesn't make you good kiddo!

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>>98234303
Do you want orks to stop being called boys and use a gender neutral term, or do you want to watch orks actually rape girls?

>>98234322
What is the next collage theme? I missed the poll.

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>>98234339
Remake wraith warriors, James. Or I will.

>>98234339
What I've been saying, it's insane to me that you buy an overpriced paper codex which just becomes wrong within half a year.

The only balance changes should be point costs. Other than that, every rule, every word printed on the paper codex should be set in stone until next edition.

>>98234330
>having to compare to literal demons of hell in order to present yourself as relatively good is not the sound strategy you think it is
-insert comment about politics & opposition-

>>98234340
>>98234321
you're that christfag from yesterday aren't you? Your bibble still endorses slavery and rape.

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God I love Gravis armour.

>>98234343
>take the piss out of a redditor who says orks are genderless
>Uh Do YoU wAnT gEnDeRlEsS oRkS?
idiot

>>98234353
Why are slavery and rape evil?

>>98234358
of course they're genderless. do you see any ork women? do you see any ork dicks?

>>98234365
>of course they're genderless. do you see any ork women? do you see any ork dicks?
I thought gender was supposed to be separate from physical sex.

>>98234365
why aren't you this discerning when your buddy Frank puts on a wig and calls himself a woman?

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>assembling resin recasts of the new Possessed models

>>98234293
>>98234303
they have genders, not sex.
>>98234318
literally every ork POV aside from the nate crowley book has them call each other “he” and “him” that logic you’re using is the same nate crowley used in his book as well.

Friendly reminder that the Imperium are Space-Nazis and just because they fight Space-Russians doesn't make them the good guys.

>>98234390
>>>/lgbt/

>>98234388
>they call each other "he" and "him"
yeah that's what any genderless species that somehow speaks english would use, because english doesn't have a gender neutral singular pronoun besides "it" which sounds really weird when referring to a person.

>>98234390
What's supposed to be wrong with Nazis again?

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I like orks :D
>>98234346
quick and nimble and/or blachitsu. I think when I create the next OP it’ll have the collage theme listed because it seems every other thread has someone ask this question.

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>>98234310
>Now he's crying about it on the internet.

>>98234394
>english doesn't have a gender neutral singular pronoun besides "it" which sounds really weird when referring to a person.
No it doesn't, and certainly not to aliens.

>>98234403
Okay now what we have to figure out is if Orks are actually speaking english or if everything we hear them say is just some kind of magically translated alien language, in which case they might be using a gender neutral pronoun but due to the limitations of english it's translated as "he" because, to us english speakers, it's more accurate than "it" when referring to a person.

Why is everyone saying that in 11e you roll the charge then pick your charge targets? The rule says the opposite

>>98234340
it really doesn't, especially when the conflicts mankind is involved with don't stop at that one but include selfish expansionism, ideological genocides and senseless bureaucratic tragedies

next comes the part where you erroneously argue that all of that is utterly justified because it's impossible for mankind to do anything else and survive, which is not just unsupported, but largely proved wrong by other factions surviving by doing other things, like normal eldar, tau and votann

if then you were intellectually honest enough we would vault over the surface level accusation that those factions too commit atrocities and are also good themselves only by comparing to comically evil things, because you won't find me denying that at all, and we could have a discussion about how those factions can survive by avoiding some of the evil things the imperium does or has to do because they have to manage much smaller empires, to come to the conclusion that it is possible for mankind to survive by acting better than it currently does but it comes at the expense of the existing imperial infrastructure, and probably a loss of human lives in said collapse larger than any mankind has ever had before, perhaps combined

the final point of the conversation would be a question over whether the lives of those people matter more than mankind surviving at a moral high ground, but the answer would be paradoxical because by saying "yes" you're giving value to those people by supporting the very regime that does not try in the slightest to hide the fact that it does not give value to those people as anything other than assets to use and abuse, while by answering "no" we would circle back to humanity justifying its own existence and advancement by committing untold atrocities

if the conversation weren't railroaded by accusations of any kind then someone would ask the point of the conversation, which exists beyond the conversation ever having to take place: everyone is bad here

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I seem to recall an edition where tau could take bomb drones?

but can't find it in 3rd or 4th ed codexes?

>>98234407
>to us english speakers, it's more accurate than "it" when referring to a person.
No it's not, it would be perfectly accurate.

>>98234407
Orks definitely know english or low gothic whatever you want to call it because they speak to Imperials but Yarrick also learned the orkish language when he was captive so they have their own language... I dunno

>>98234390
>just because they fight Space-Russians doesn't make them the good guys
You couldn't be any more wrong.

>>98234413
Because you can go into anyone you can reach, so you pick the long bomb target and then see where you actually want to go.

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Let Chaos Idols take this thread!

Lads ive been out of the same for a few editions.

is there any talk of updated grey knights models? always wanted to start a GK army.

>>98234433
There's always talk, but I've heard nothing concrete.

>>98234433
Yes, a rework is coming, we don't have info on the specifics or the exact timing beyond it most definitely happening within this edition, and since we have rumors about this update, then it will happen in the first half of the edition rather than its end. chances are we will see a kill team of updated grey knights before the full release wave.

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>>98234416
There was some lore that the Tau used suicide drones with basic AI, I don't think that ever had rules. If there was it would be some Forge World thing and part of 5th or 6th probably. Might also be a Aeronautica Imperialis thing.

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>>98234407
orks frequently make use of social constructs (which gender is) and words made by humans. pic related is 80% loan words. there’s really no reason to think they’d decide to pick up so many words including “boys” which is a masculine word, but then arbitrarily think “he” is too much for them to pick up.

>>98234407
They have their own language but they also learn the imperials' just to insult them.

Remember, orks aren't dumb.

>>98234358
>>take the piss out of a redditor who says orks are genderless
why are you taking the piss out of a "redditor" for saying something you acknowledge is the truth and have no desire to change?

>>98234354
taking images off facebook again are you anon?

so if you wanted to start eldar but had a limited budget, what would you consider the essentials to get first?

i've got like $600 to work with to try to hit as close to a playable 2k as i can. its not nothing, but the elf tax is real, these kits are pretty expensive dollar for point, especially the aspect warriors.

assuming i dont want to spam the combat patrol because more than 10 dire avengers would be too much right?

>>98234424
the fucking state of queenslanders, go to bed you fuck

>>98234464
Instagram.

>>98234472
thats a facebook image anon, its in the fuckin filename

>>98234442
can you find the source for that lore? maybe what i'm getting confused with

I seem to recall they needed the sniper drone firesight marksman

>>98234466
>>98234444
the state of burgers, land of the """free""" lmao

>>98234433
will new GKs get rid of baby carriers?

>>98234467
>limited budget
recasts for characters and infantry but not for vehicles and big things

>>98234467
id get a job first desu

>>98234475
Is it? Well I think Facebook own Instagram, so that could explain it.
But rest assured, it's from Instagram.

>>98234443
Well if they're just borrowing words they've heard imperials saying then we can probably assume they just hear imperials call each other "he/him" (because their fighting force is overwhelmingly male) and figured that was just the word to use

An alien listening to human soldiers talk would reasonably assume "he/him" refers to other people and "it" refers to objects and if they have no concept of gender they'd never even think to ask if the pronoun was gendered, they'd just use it.

>>98234480
ya got a loicense for that opinion mate?

>>98234433
marinefags keep talking about grey knights getting a so callled long overdue primaris refresh or some bullshit, i hope they stay the way they are, imagine wanting your entire range to get replaced by shit

>>98234480
Freedom means that bad stuff sometimes happens, you have to learn to be an adult and deal with it.

>>98234497
not from the uk you fuckin peanut

>>98234494
not gonna post your own models?

why people dont like primaris again?

>>98234503
>get shot
>die
>just need to be an adult and deal with it

>>98234506
dont think you have mate

>>98234495
half of imperial armies are now made up of black walmart aunts per DEI quota requirements for the design and 'eavy metal teams.

>>98234503
It's funny how it's always the people who haven't been shot 10 times in the back by masked officers who have this opinion

>>98234508
because they look fuckin awful? its not hard to figure out anon

>>98234511
this is what being black is all about

>>98234506
>not gonna post your own models?
Not for johnny foreigner.

>>98234513
well maybe the orks learned english before that happened

>>98234515
You celebrated Babbitt's death.

>>98234517
Meh like more than half the shit GW has ever put out looks awful yet here we are

>>98234480
When lefties cry about a shooting it's usually a righteous one.

>>98234519
If 40k is from the UK doesn't that make you the foreigner?

>>98234527
>anyone who disagrees with me is a lefty

>>98234533
No 40k sucks

>>98234533
I'm from the UK, responding to a guy who said he wasn't from the UK. That was intended the joke.

>>98234508
things when they were a child good
change bad

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>>98234483
Unclear.
It got an upgrade sprue not too long ago and it won't feel particularly out of scale even after the other units get updated because the pilot would be far enough from the ground for a comparison to not be immediate, but it's also a notoriously unpopular design, many release waves do come with at least one centerpiece that would likely substitute this one, and it wouldn't be the first time gw has added an upgrade sprue to a kit only to remove that kit one or two years later.
If anything the upgrade sprue might have been a way to push as many of the old stock before the moulds are retired for good.

A proper grey knight dreadnought instead of a redesigned dreadknight is not an impossible scenario, many existing conversions already work around the dreadknight by enclosing the pilot, bashing the kit with a dreadnought, or starting from a dreadnought altogether, most recently with pretty popular results with the saturnine dreadnought.

>>98234519
not for anyone as you have none

>>98234541
nta but if anon is a righty that would make sense

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>>98234256
>Primaris turns 40k Marines into pseudo-Legions with fancier tech
>Doesn't adapt the most kino Legion troop choice

>>98234541
Usually, yes.

>>98234548
that one in the middle looks fuckin sick

>>98234549
careful about copping an attitude online if you say offensive things that cause anxiety you might end up in jail

>>98234508
They make them insecure.

>>98234560
I STILL DONT SEE YOUR MODELS ANON

>>98234549
Why would you assume that?
I just don't want to post them because they're badly painted. If they were worth showing off I probably would.

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If Alpharius told the Orks a really convincing lie, and got all of them to believe it, would it become true?

>>98234571
no

>>98234263
Eldrad isn't competent either. Pretty much any named Librarian would beat him.

So I've noticed that most of the "douchebag lists" have something in common. It's necrons with multiple either c'tan/obelisks, or knights with all the big ones, or like certain arrangements of tau with the same result, multiples of soulgrinders, etc. The common theme seems to be "skew" in the direction of having fewer units, but these very high toughness and high wound units that demand a certain type of weapon, so you can often just get lucky and your opponent doesn't have as many as he needs since he's playing a balanced list. It's this type of advantage right out of the gate before armies are even set up that seems to be the 40k "douchebag". It's not illegal, but it's obviously trying to take advantage of the people who are playing the game "normally" for lack of a better word.

So my question is, why don't they simply make this illegal? "Skew" just shouldn't exist in a well designed game, and plenty of games manage to reign it in. So how bad is it really in 40k? In an average tournament, how many people are "skewing"?
And a related question, how common is it for people to "skew" in the other direction, by having 300 infantry and nothing to aim the anti-tank guns you bought at? I've been thinking about it a lot recently, and the best 40k list in theory would probably be like 300 guardsmen, people are just prevented from doing this since you'd run out of time in a tournament and have carpel tunnel syndrome by the end of the event too.

>>98234390
So, it ends with space russians raping 2000 female custodes on Terra?

>>98234566
your caps lock is coming off as combative I might have to contact your local commissar

>>98234546
unless they got into it as an adult and still don’t like it then uhhhh.

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>>98234322
Almost done. Just a last mini of a bird to glue on it, then red cloth to be used as drapes around the frame.

>>98234575
>So my question is, why don't they simply make this illegal?
Because they make money by selling those big overpriced kits.

>>98234575
Playing 40k seriously sucks dick bro just play with your buddies dont ever take this stupid shit seriously

>>98234480
>land of the """free""" lmao
It is, but they are free from mind. Because only these retards self-inserting as troons and christpilled morons in every fantasy en masse

>>98234327
They stack as long as they're coming from nonduplicacted sources. Eg bigboss gives +1 to charge and ere we go gives +2 makes +3 total.

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>>98234508
The kits are gay

>>98234322
>>98234584
I hate this shitty site and this shitty board and its' shitty posters and this fucking tabletop game that's just made to milk as much money out of you and give you crippling hobby anxiety BUT

I do enjoy seeing what you guys make. Myself I haven't painted a miniature in years due to madness, but I feel like it's just around the corner!

>>98234595
250,000 little girls anon

>>98234605
So much variety and customizability in just a few parts, modern GW could never

>>98234574
>warned humanity about following in the eldar's footsteps and having their own fall.
>beat abbadon in single combat
>help resurrect guilliman
>orchestrated the birth of ynnead
I dunno anon, he seems pretty competent to me.

>>98234548
I would collect GK if it wasn't for the dreadknights. I think a proper dreadnought would be sick.

>>98234574
>Pretty much any named Librarian would beat him.
Not a chance. Maybe thousand sons sorcerers would since the rubric made them like 100x more powerful than normal or whatever, but a regular old librarian from like, the white scars or whatever? Not a chance.

>>98234613
They could, they just won't.

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>>98234626
>>98234626
>Anyway I dont know if you noticed but this is the 40k thread
And yet you haven't posted a model. Curious!

>>98234575
>why not ban hull spam
GW introduced a stepped unit cost for a lot of units, where the second or third cost more than the first

>why not guard spam
One of the best lists in 10th was max guardsman spam in recon element. It wasn't as widespread as it could have been because very few people even have that many models and can play a full game with it in the time limit

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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>98234626
Sorry let's go back to talking about the xenophobic space-whiteys that conquer, enslave, forcibly convert and genocide the natives of everywhere and make sure we don't let any political opinions creep in when we say if they're good or not good.

>>98234646
They're objectively good by the way.

>>98234646
>space-whiteys
the imperium isn't white

does anyone know off the top of their head if the armageddon box has any shared sprues with both orks and marines on them?

im going to split a box, not sure if i should bring clippers or not

>>98234652
it's pretty white. I guess the salamanders are black and the white scars are a non-specific kind of asian or whatever but overall pretty white.

>>98234339
>pic
It’s true I fucking love wraiths so much
I can’t stand how they’re being treated in the rules at the moment. They don’t do much and they require psychic babysitters to still really not do much. I want a proper wraith army but GW is so hyperfixated on selling aspect warriors and phoenix lords

>>98234653
>does anyone know off the top of their head if the armageddon box has any shared sprues with both orks and marines on them?
No it does not.

>>98234653
The Warboss and Captain, but it's one of the sprues you can cleanly break in the middle.

>>98234655
>but overall
the emperor isn't white and there isn't a single section of the imperium that doesn't have people of color.

so the imperium isn't white.

>>98234656
Every time I read or watch something about a wraith host people are like "yeah you could run a Wraith Knight if you want to for fun or whatever but an Avatar of Khaine does the same thing for half the points"

>>98234641
I literally posted mine earlier meanwhile, you’re talking about random shit and posting anime reaction images

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>>98234652
Dude, "honorary".

>>98234670
>I literally posted mine earlier meanwhile
That was mine actually thoughbeit

>>98234646
I slept a full eight hours came back and you’re still here with this gay shit trying to troll with like colonialization theory or something

>>98234655
Bro, the emperor looks fucking native American what are you on about?

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>>98234574
>Pretty much any named marine would beat him.
FTFY
>>98234616
>>98234637
lol, Eldrad is just another eldar (near)seer always jobbing at the most important time

>>98234646
r/sigmarxism way down the hall and to the left, maybe you should go back there.

>>98234467
I would get a wraithhost, but I also have absolutely no idea of how the game works since 10 years or something

>>98234674
Same

>first streamed GT of 11th has everyone on purge and take dispo
>there's a list with 3 guos+ rotigus +and 40 plaguebearers and 10 blue horrors
This game is fucking hilarious

>>98234508
>reselling the entire marine army but with less options to customize and less variety
>the new armor designs just aren’t as cool as the classic iconic marks that they should have just redesigned and upscaled
>retarded new names for old units like INTERCESSORS and ELIMINATORS
>Gravis was an attempt to phase out termies and failed so fucking miserably

>>98234686
That entire plotline was so fucking retarded it's surreal.

>>98234701
>>retarded new names for old units like INTERCESSORS and ELIMINATORS
you would be whining about devastators and terminators too if they were new names

>>98234701
>>Gravis was an attempt to phase out termies and failed so fucking miserably
Yet just released today we have a new cool Gravis unit... curious.

>>98234715
Gravis went from the likes of Aggressors and Inceptors to being just regular space marines, but heavier.

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>>98234256
Building the new box rn and I don't know why but for some reason they force you to build 18 Boyz and 2 Nobs without giving you the option to build 19 Boyz and 1 Nob and I highly doubt they let you make a 20 man squad with 2 Nobs

>>98234575
Correct, everyone with any "skew" direction has to fully commit to it for full advantage because reducing all armies to a few units (sans space marines) and no wargear or force organization leaves you only with that option, which makes the game into rock paper scissors. Oh you can't deal with 3 GUOs because your army lacks anti tank? I win. You can't hide from knights Towering with 11th rules? Guess what I can move 17" +3 " rotation and gain another 2" from my sword tip modeled at the exact angle to hit you in your dz and pin you turn 1. Comp 40k is 1,000,000 Ben Shapiros saying "well rules as written" and then normal dads getting stomped by it and going "hehe still have fun". Spoiler, the dad is happier.

>>98234644
>they added a 30pt spam tax
>band aid put on top of severed artery

>>98234686
>GW mandate that marines must always win no matter what
>this means eldar are losers :)
black library and it's consequences have been a disaster for the asuryani.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uAQPIsvd-g

>>98234699
link

>Tournament stream for 11th
>It's some confused dude who doesn't know the rules walking marines forward and getting blown off the board by some custodes player in a team shirt
I'm sorry...

>>98234730
>>98234769
More and more people every day hopefully realizing that this game is not built to handle serious tournament play

>>98234769
>>98234776
Are there channels that do high quality campaigns, rather than tournaments?

>>98234293
Homie remains blissfully unaware

I bet orks don't even know what sex is

They don't live long enough

>>98234793
>>98234799
Are orks not asexually reproducing fungus monsters?

>>98234727
>they went from aggressors, a unit which are just regular marine but heavier
So they changed to be what they always were?
Majority of gravis units have just been regular space marines but heavier.
Only one that's at all weird shit is the inceptors but that is only 1 unit

>>98234805
It's just some weirdo that has pushed and forced an unfunny meme about orks having dicks and raping their enemies.
He's been doing it since like 2022 or 2023.

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>>98234575
The game is run by and events are put on by people who play this way, it will never be banned. But they will ban angron from ignoring the -2" modifier for fly through walls despite his ability to "ignore movement modifiers" because "if modifies his maximum distance not his movemment"
Pic rel

>>98234596
Legacy of Grace detachment rule and Blood Angels Captain both give "Legacy of the Angel" bonuses (+1 charge, +1 advance) with different wording (this unit vs all BA infantry character units). Stack or no?

>>98234575
Anon, the guard meta at the top of the comp is literally 200 guardsmen with reactive moved and a "oc4" button strat. They just walk onto neoprene circles and win.

>>98234814
Bro Squad Broken can probably drink now lmao

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>>98234816
Mfw Angron can stay stationary and move 14" because he ignores movement modifiers

You know there's really no way to balance a game where one day you're fighting three giant gundams with world-melting firepower and adamantium armor and the next day you're just fighting dudes with rifles but there's like 400 of them all over the place

Both of these extremes need to be chopped off for good. In fact Knights were probably a mistake to begin with.

>>98234814
You mean the nonce artist?

>>98234845
and both can be easily addressed with a force organisation chart, rules for morale for large units and damage tables for big entities

no way to balance my ass

>>98234845
>>98234851
They’re just never going to balance it my guys
Take it from me, dude I have hopped from competitive scene to competitive scene and I have literally never once in my entire life seen a governing organization do a good job balancing their game and keeping it fun for everybody
That shit just takes a backseat to making money
It is what it is

>>98234851
because the game was sooo well balanced in the early editions that had that stuff lmao

>>98234845
Knights are indeed a mistake but they needed to make the game approachable for retards to play

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>>98234689
>mfw that warhammer subreddit
Painted overpriced warhammer minis are as useful to any cause as thoughts and prayers like solidarity displays.

That place gives off the same vibe as r/atheism where they just make their beliefs look bad by being themselves.

>>98234856
It's not that, its that the only governing body that released missions was the ITC. ITC banned new releases, placed caps on unit spam (rule of x for y) and even banned OP things. They werent perfect but balancing Jews Workshit with cruddace and ward is a fools errand. GW bought them in 2023. The only thing that changed after being bought is they dont ban things anymore.

>>98234857
it was more balanced, that's undeniable
it also didn't implement them completely the way I would

>>98234845
>In fact Knights were probably a mistake to begin with.
Yes, but I love them anyway.

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A lone warlock is almost as expensive as two warlocks and four warlocks is more expensive than two sets of two warlocks I don't understand this fucking elf math

Ork city builder
or
Hive city point and click detective game?

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>Model covered in so much paint I need to use sculpting tools and even the knife to remove it since the solvent cant even properly penetrate all the way through
You'd think after so many years of memeing about thin your paints it would have stuck at least somewhat.
I guess he at least used enough paint to fill the gaps he left when gluing the model together.

>>98234932
aeldari "master all the paths without becoming lost on one" game.
first playthrough is 10,000 hours, then you do new game plus

>>98234889
>it was more balanced, that's undeniable
okay, kid, whatever you say

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>>98234672
>Big E is a morally complex character and although the Imperium is the worst regime ever invented it's tragically also a necessary evil
Absolute pussy shit. Nemesis with its "Termite actually just fucking blows and the boss is Literally Hitler" setup remains a more subversive fantasy than 40k even after all these decades.

>couldn’t make up Ork lore and settle on just doing a canon scheme for my Armageddon box
>think the Death Skulls in the Operation Imperator book is cool
>their scheme is blue
>realize I already have tons of Ultramarines
Am I really gonna paint Blue Orks too….? Are there any other Ork factions focussed on robbing you?

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>>98234467
As someone who's been building Eldar on a budget, here how I approached it
>Pick a lane and stick with it. I went with a Wraithhost cause Iyanden has the coolest colorscheme and the Wraithlord model is sick. Look into the Craftworlds and figure out what vibe clicks with you the most.
>Avoid going all in on Aspect Warriors however - Yeah they're "Good" but Autarchs and Phoenix Lords are hella expensive in terms of models. If you want to include one unit of Fire Dragons or something in your army by all means go for it, but at your budget I don't think it's a good idea to full send on them.
>Hunt for ebay/marketplace deals. they don't come up often, but I got a chunk of my army (Wave Serpent/Falcons, Rangers, Warlocks, a few other things) for $170 off Facebook Marketplace last year.
>Try to see if you can snag any of the Eldar magazines from Combat Patrol on the cheap. You can get a small discount on some depending on where you're at.
>A good thing about Eldar being one of the oldest ranges in 40k is that you have plenty of old RT/2ED models floating around. No way in hell am I buying two Warlocks from GW for $60, but I'll sure as hell pay $15-20 for a pewter one from 30+ years ago.

>>98234875
Thats so funny lmao
Like I said bro thats just how it is
Balance is less profitable than frustration loops

>>98234943
That's just warframe

>>98234953
Whats subversive about it?
Also why are you framing a setting have “subversive” elements as being better than one that doesn’t?

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repostan these lads
i hate batch painting but it's also the only way i can actually finish a unit

>>98234849
No, nothing to do with Mossa.

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>>98234963
>Pick a lane and stick with it. Look into the Craftworlds and figure out what vibe clicks with you the most.
I recommend painting all your elves with the Il-Kaithe scheme, practice a passable William Dafoe impression and constantly refer to your opponent as Spider-Man

>>98234986
I feel like if I had to start over I would do Crimson Fists. Unfortunately Gulliman won my heart. It helps that Ultramarine transfers are easy to come by, I think the Armageddon box is the first time I’ve seen CF transfers.

>>98234986
They look nice but decals where?
Btw is this picture mirrored?
>Once a Crimson Fists Neophyte becomes a full battle-brother, his left gauntlet is painted crimson. Upon becoming a Veteran member of the Crusade (1st) Company, he is allowed to paint his right gauntlet crimson as well.

>>98234986
Ah yes, the Crimson Fists with the wrong hand painted red, which means they're actually the evil mirror-universe counterparts the Fimson Crists

>>98234953
>a more subversive fantasy
Who asked for that?

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>Marines Malevolent are Veterans of previous war on Armageddon
>Fall into an ork trap

Geedubs you cucks

>>98234958
Freebootaz.
But as a Deathskulls enjoyer myself I'd suggest you remain with the lucky blue gitz.

>>98234256
I just read the latest Ghazghkull novel

whoever thinks space marines are always presented as mary sues in the fluff should read that piece of shit and shut the fuck up

Ive read my fair share of black library slop but Ive never read about a character so blatantly unkillable as this ork retard

>>98235029
Lmao, get fucked piss boy.

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>>98235029
I kinda wanna imagine Salamanders coming to MM's barracks as Umasz is standing on his crutches (they don't have any leg cybernetics available) to thank them for their Valiant effort to fight off the horde as they went to assist other soldiers, and Umasz politely tells them to get the fuck out of his face

>>98234966
Im a TO and I just released an edited mission pack with all 45 layouts with larger ruin walls so the toe-towering LOS rule doesn't force players to be pinned in their DZ the entire game. The amount of compfags crying about a wall being 2" longer so that more than 1 40mm can hide in NML is fucking hilarious to me. The WAACcels who are skewing for fast gun or 5 big knights are dropping from the event because they can't turn 1 shoot everyone in their DZ. I grow stronger everytime one of them cries.

>>98235036
>collection of Orks from different clans coming together into a Pirate Crew
I may just do this one. That way I can do some Deathskulls anyways. I might try and make a hat from the Boss even.

>>98234839
>>98234816
I dont understand this.

What is the in universe significance of planet Armageddon for the imperium?
Is it just symbolic or is there a strategic reason it is to be defended at all costs?

>>98235058
Glad you’re having fun anon
Hope the event goes well

>>98235083
It used to be a major manufacturing centre, after centuries of war it's now it's mostly a matter of pride.

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>>98234256
>TQ
It’s going good, just got the boxset a minute ago.

>>98235072
Because words sometimes mean one thing and other times mean other things and when you don't make it clear what means what then people just assume whatever shit benefits them and then what was even the point of writing rules at all james WHAT WAS EVEN THE POINT

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>>98235096
Cute feet

>>98235057
>even the glup shittos arent dying and every duel is a stalemate
FUCK OFF

>>98235083
It manufactures a lot of shit for the Imperium.
Not sure how true that still is after centuries of war however. Not surprising if most if not all manufacturing capability have been lost and the Imperium is just fighting the orks out of sheer sunk cost fallacy and ego at this point.
Would be appropriate to 40k though where logic and reason gets supplanted by ego, pride and detrimental fanatisism.

>>98235083
Armageddon in the principle planet of the Armageddon system which is in the Segmentum Solar. It’s relatively close to Terra so if they lose the planet, the system is much easier to overrun and Terra becomes much harder to defend. It used to produce hard to produce tanks if I recall right, but that lore is old enough I imagine the apocalyptic wars put a wrench in production.

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>>98235083
it controls a major chokepoint to terra. if captured, it becomes a hub of ork activity, and terra will be perpetually raided by ork warbosses.

>>98235072
Ill tldr it
>angron ignores move modification, take to the sky is -2" to "maximum distance", chuds are arguing that he can't ignore the 2" because it's "a penalty not a modifier" or "its maximum movement not movement characteristic!"
>the second layer is grown men arguing about 2" of movement for a plastic toy game on a bottom tier dogshit army on an overcosted unit that sucks ass over a ruleset that just dropped by down syndrome rules teams that clearly intend for angron to "not be slowed down when moving" and scrutinizing a rule set harder than a judge does in contract law

Rules lawyers are the kid you asked to go away at recess who didnt have anyone to play with. They run events now to power trip

>>98235094
>>98235114
>>98235117
>>98235123
Thanks anons!

>>98235084
Ive already been thanked by dozens for making the terrain passable

>>98235015
Thanks, medicae.

>>98235131
>passable
>loads of thanks from community
I’m glad you did your work to fight the bad 40k terrain meme.
Thank you for your service.

>>98235128
A proper Iron Hand would turn her into nutrient paste for his servitors.

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Please ignore how few scenery pieces are set up, I'm still printing more.

I really do hope people will use scatter terrain beside the "obligatory" scenery you place on scenery footprints. I set up the 3 maps designed for Combat Patrol - and for 1000pts games I assume since separate maps for 1000pts were never published - and the table does feel empty.
Scenery footprints create a weird feeling of navigating your units through a maze so I will definitely paint mine to blend with my future gaming mat to prevent them from sticking out like a sore thumb.

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>>98234749
>black library and it's consequences have been a disaster for the asuryani.
cope, eldarfag

>>98234575
That's why Age of Sigmar is a better came. A 6dmg weapon with no S or T mechanics does the same effect against a horde or a big single model. Maybe 12th will finally get rid of S/T.

>>98235146
>That's why Age of Sigmar is a better came.
Why is it dead then?

>>98235125
Tau fags insisting they could fall back and shoot with their whole army under Mont'ka was when I stopped going to public events.

>>98235150
But it's not?

>>98235136
She's carrying tools so I assume she's some manner of workshop assistant or mechanic.

>>98235146
Aos can get away with no s/t and other stuff like damage overflowing because it's 90% melee and what little shooting there is is very limited in range (and usually damage)
Can't just transplant it into 40k and expect it to work when the average gun shoots halfway across the table

>>98235155
Its 4chan people melt down about everything
I though the finale was alright, some weird pacing at certain points but whatever

>>98235160
A defective one, so into the grinder it goes.

>>98235155
>Trannies ruin things
Yeah, we know.

>>98235152
Remember its not the chud exploiting the rule its the TOs who allow it

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>>98234310
>Play sci-fi game in space
>Get wiped by shooting superiority
>???
>Cry about it

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>>98235029
>Bloodaxes are sneaky gits
>Beakies fall for da trap
S'wot you get for not puttin your finking caps on, ya grot

>>98235155
It appears I prefer to be blind

>>98234986
Unit looks good
I fucking love combat knives but they’re in so few kits
I wish more kits gave the generic combat knife arms to add more soul

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The Nachmund Gauntlet is closed yet again.

Overlord of Horhmuhsus, Grand Admiral of the might Pershiaan Fleet, issues a decree that no unclean vessel shall pass within the remit of his territory. Glory to the Infinite Empire.

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>>98234256

>tq

Today the first official Game Workshop WH Store opened here in South Korea. It opened in the Gangnam neighborhood (yes the same place from Gangnam Style), which is where every franchise or company trying to break into the Korean market opens their flagship restaurant or store.

I didn't go cause there's no reason to ever enter a GW store aside from getting your free monthly welfare figure, and I knew it would be a shitshow. But I did hear about how it went down from other people.

They had a digital queue system where you signed up on your phone and got a text or call when it was your turn to go in. There queue got into the several hundreds and one guy said he showed up at 10:30 and got in at 4:30. They also didn't sell out of Armageddon which doesn't suprise me at all. They have limited stock shirts and keychains to celebrate the opening but I haven't seen them myself.


I honestly don't like that GW has their own prescence here. Back in 2023 there was one guy who ran a store in Seoul with an exclusive contract to import GW goods. He priced everything absurdly low at his own shop and because he was the middleman for the other numerous hobby and model stores around the country, those other stores had low prices too.

Back in 2023 I bought an AoS vanguard box for about 90 USD, and 10 intercessors cost around 42 USD if memory serves correctly.

Then GW terminated their contract in mid 2024 I believe, and prices went up while they still had huge stock and supply issues. They started dealing directly with the hobby stores and everything just turned to full price GW hedgemony.

We could see that writing on the wall that GW would soon open their own store and try to squeeze more money out of the country by taking a direct role in things. Thankfully the hobby scene is robust (mostly thanks to Gunpla, SW Legions, Marvel, and X-Men) that hobby stores survive without GW and stock paints from better brands.

I just miss buying plastic at a 30-35% discount

I've yet to grow tired of building space marines.
Something about it is just pleasant.

>>98235188
No it’s the people exploiting rules too
That shit is gay
I shouldn’t have to police hyper autistic goobers playing armies whose rules I don’t even know
This game is not meant to be played competitively. It is meant to be played with friends.

>>98235155
I've never heard of whatever this is before
There are whole other worlds out there

>>98235224
Maybe the prices the good shop guy was offering were not sustainable from a business point of view. Either that, or GW were deliberately low-selling kits to your bloke to put their foot in the door to see if things would sell in your area.
Once they discovered it would, they cut the contract and decided to set up shop themselves.
>le greed
Yes. GW is a business. A business exists to make money for it's own sake. It's not insulin or some other vital staple, it's unbuilt toys for middle-aged autists.

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First stream of 11th is a busy dad learning 11th rules against a known competitive chud team that plays skew shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY6-cM9E7MM
the chat is proof why 40k is fucking dying and the stream is his funeral
>>98235232
Yes, but there will always be faggots who exploit rules and write shitty skew lists. Its the burden of the TO to restrict it, now. I agree, these people are truely subhuman vermin

>>98234699
God damn

https://taschengelddieb.de/SALE-Hehlerware-der-Woche

HOLY Europe bros we are eating well. Taschengelddieb has all sorts of colours on sail

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>>98235096
>>98235218


>tiny baby hands
>wooden mannequin/lay figure arms
>bean head
>super long purity seals that look like CVS pharmacy receipts
>massive fucking round barrel chests
>Long skinny guns with the proportions of those giant meter long chocolate bars you see at novelty shops
>somehow makes the primaris helmets smoother, rounder, and less defined

I think the BAngel on the starter set cover is the worst example of this. Seriously his gun looks like a cheap convention prop made of cardboard, or one of those little pistols kids make out of spare Legos in 1st grade.

Does anyone have a pdf of reign of iron apocalypse? I don't fancy spending 40 quid on it.

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are all the new intercessors monopose? aside from the helmeted/bare head and special weapon option for the select few?

>>98235313
>are all the new intercessors monopose?
Yes.
>aside from the helmeted/bare head and special weapon option for the select few?
There are no head options, though they're easy to change out if you have any spares lying around.
No special weapons options either, one guy just has the grenade launcher.

New recruit... please...

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Is it worth it?
I have the army set and the Fulgrim Battleforce.

>>98235248
It’s just the nature of shit
That’s why I don’t put a significant amount of time or energy into stupid bullshit like a video games or wargaming or whatever
I get like 70 something years on this planet unless I’m unlucky and I really don’t want to waste a significant chunk of my limited consciousness on stupid bullshit like this

>>98235330
are they both fully painted?

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>>98235336
Besides Fulgrim who I'm leaving for very last since I want more experience before I fuck him up.

I will be over the useful limit for Noise Marines but I can always use them for a normal CSM army which would require painting them in different colors anyway.

Don't know if it's worth it. Set is heavily discounted though.

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>>98235200
>Dubz
Truea n Orky

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All the skin on my left foot is peeling off for an unknown reason.
Is this the sign to start collecting Death Guard?

>>98235240
>Yes. GW is a business. A business exists to make money for it's own sake.

Some people like to foster the illusion that toy or hobby companies are somehow their "friends". You see this with LEGO all the time too.

>>98235330
>>98235348
boy do I hate the Emperors Children eavy metal paint job

>>98235367
yes + please go to a dermatologist

>>98235367
Just diabetes, don't worry about it.
Possibly necrotising fasciitis, that's one to worry about.

>>98235303
>Fatseer

>>98235382
Maybe if it starts to smell bad. I don't much like doctors.

>>98235383
I do wonder! The new skin is kinda purple, but it feels good and strong.

>>98235324
war organ is updated

>>98235303
Fat people shouldn't be allowed to cosplay holy shit.

>>98235429
They should just dress up as fat characters.
Put all that padding to use.

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Calgar Hulk Hands

>>98235367
hmmm, I’ll have to inspect that foot to he sure, would you mind posting it? with a box next to it to keep it on topic of course.

>>98235458
Finally, I can beat my wife in style.

>>98234575
>So my question is, why don't they simply make this illegal? "Skew" just shouldn't exist in a well designed game, and plenty of games manage to reign it in. So how bad is it really in 40k?

It is because there is no body that manages organized play like Magic or other games with super successful tournament scenes have. The DCI while part of wizards of the coast was not really part of game design or sales and focused on just the organized play program. If you want this in warhammer then you need a bigger divorce between design, marketing, and sales. Warhammer needs a PERMANENT UNCHANGING set of core comprehensive rules that do not fundamentally change how the game is played every four years. GW wont do this because they need the churn of edition changes to maintain profits. There also needs to be some sort of judge certification and it needs to be controlled by GW organized play. You absolutely cannot allow third party orgs be in charge of shit like judges, with no certification process.
long story short, GW doesnt want this, they want the constant money from the churn. The whole model has to change and they dont want to

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>>98235303
>>98235388
>Fatseer

>>98235478
Basically its not gonna happen play with your homies if you want good games
The idea of competitive board games is pretty gay to begin with anyway

>>98235458
There has to be a less gay way to advertise that you like fisting people.

>>98235484
Exactly.

>>98235388
Only thing she uses the skein for is to predict what's for dinner

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>>98235303
Reminds me of da big boss.
But seriously imagine wasting all that effort on a costume that you look so out of fit in.
Also lol'd at middle guy's doc martens.

>>98235475
Hahahahaha

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Going to my first game. How many dice do I need? Is 30 enough? It's not like I'm gonna be rolling 60 dice at once, right?

>>98235528
What army are you playing?

>>98235528
Should be plenty. You might want 2-3 different colors to combine different attack rolls to make the game a bit faster

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>>98235519
40k cosplay can get really good, issue is that theres a lot of low effort stuff due to the influx of the wider audience so you end up with hambeasts etc

I was at a con last month and there was a guy in full kasrkin gear cooking in 30°c weather, and an older couple as a SoB and commissar which were actually really good

>>98235528
30s usually enough. if a roll requires more than that you just roll, count the hits, then roll again as many as you need for the remainder. it wont get that high with most units unless its something like big swarms of orks or tyranids, or blast weapons firing into swarms that get a ton of extra shots

>>98235519
It’s cosplay
It’s a hobby for losers
Just like 40K
Very few people here give a shit about presenting themselves well

>stream game on GW official is 5 ctan vs a world eater thematic list where the world eater could barely kill 1 ctan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsqb3aEKTfs