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Force(d) (in)disposition Edition

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▶Previous Thread:
>>98241229

▶Thread question:
Now that we can mathhammer and theorycraft freely, what is you opinion on Force Dispositions?
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a little consistency GW that's all I ask
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Could you please post models and wips?
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>>98244467
>not a vehicle

this is a buff. stop asking them to nerf the wraithlord
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>>98244453
>What is you opinion on Force Dispositions?
I'm optimistic in their eventual working, they worked fine for KT, but right now they're absurd, we've already talked about how anything vs purge is playing cuck missions, you gain points by doing actions in objectives while they gain points by killing units in objectives, meaning they have more free actions to kill you and will always end up wiping you.
So many other matchups have weird imbalances that make it an obvious uphill battle for one side.
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>>98244470
No! But they sure are nice though.
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>>98244467
>has a pilot
Where is the pilot?
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>>98244486
But there's a 1DP detachment that only works on vehicles and it would sure be neat if it worked on wraiths
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>>98244467
At least its just a keyword these days
>Yes this new Tau mech IS clearly an open-topped walker, but...we want it it to be good, so...lets stat it as a monster
Same story as the Riptide, it wouldn't have ruled the game and had clubs full of people spamming them if it had had AV values instead of toughness, wounds and a 2+ save
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>>98244470
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>>98244499
in the stone, and maybe also in the warp, I don't know how that shit works, but he's in there somewhere.
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Thoughts on the newly costed Space Marine Ancient?
I know it's what everyone was hyped for this edition
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>>98244507
I always forget this shit is open top.
Like fucking why?
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>>98244499
Pokeball pilot though. In practice no more different than the chaos chicken walker.
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>>98244521
Easier Ethereal mind control
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>>98244521
There must be an stl for a transparent windshield somewhere they decided was too expensive to add.
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Mfw codex drops
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Opr9Ff2Uv-Q
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>>98244505
yeah sure, but that also then opens the wraiths up to every anti vehicle weapon rule in the game
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>>98244467
Walker or monstruous creature should be about the material/construction.
Walkers use vehicle armor facings, monstruous creatures use wounds and thougness.
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>>98244521
So you can see the cute pilots pushing the colorful buttons inside
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>>98244530
Is not like GW haven't made fully enclosed interior details before.
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>>98244470
sure
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>>98244537
Some models have interior that you can never see once assembled.
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>>98244530
There sure is for a normal armor plate, as well as arms even though everyone says they prefer broadsides with guns on their shoulders.
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>>98244530
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>>98244548
Sometimes it's cool to keep it visible.
Giving the thing an optional armor panel would have been for the best, but we live in a society.
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>>98244470
posted last thread, but I’m really happy with how the color overall color scheme is turning out. hoping for the leopard print to go well at the end, but I’m pretty confident because I recently did camo for one of my orks and it turned out well.
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>>98244563
Just find it strange because they already have done that with other suits.
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>>98244470
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I like orks :D
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>>98244470
I think i'm the only guy at my locals who prefers Beastsnaggas to the other Orks.

FYI the eavy metal skin is 1:1 skarsnik green and averland sunset.
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>>98244587
It's a rare opinion, especially because there was some vitriol with them on unfounded fears that they represented the new direction for orks like primaris for marines.
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>>98244260
>straight to legends


For what purpose
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>>98244605
the amount of neo-puritan seethe emanating from this lmao
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>>98244596
They are just the sci-fi version of savage orks. Instead of landing on some imperial world and looking at a junkyard and going "i can krump summin wiv this" they land on some imperial nobles game retreat world and like baboons breaking containment into a safari park they basically take over.

Plus i like a bit of a horizon zero dawn vibe from their gear. Like they are effectively WHFB orcs dropped into 40k and adapting the best they can.
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>>98244587
as long as you dont like those dog shit kill rigs.
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>>98244605

Its a natural overreaction to how sexless and sterile 40k is (by design, not an accident).
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>>98244470
Almost done with these dudes, the trouble is in a world where I play predominantly at 1k, it’s hard to squeeze them in to anything but a broodsurge list.


I’m skeptical on taking broodsurge at 1k due to the detachment type , but then again I’ve only played 2 games of 11th. And both with a purge the foe related thing.
I’ve got another 1k game tomorrow, the real question is do they have a place in the list(and if I can varnish them in time)
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>>98244577
Badass
Is there anything special to the flags or is it just paper and glue? I have this same set of models, but the 30-year-old sticker that's supposed to be a flag for the standard-bearer doesn't stick worth a damn anymore.
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>>98244470
Chinork warkopta build finished over the weekend. I do need to do a bit of gap filling on the rotor blade connections, and obviously need to do something with the base, but otherwise it's ready to prime.
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>>98244605
>>98244610
Why did you repost the same image with the same reply?
>>98243365
>>98243379
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>>98244639
that isn’t me you retard
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>>98244626
pasty looking motherfuckers
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>>98244608
So it filters compfags
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>>98244608
Because he's way too happy about being in grim darkness of the far future

doesn't he know there is only war?
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>>98244619
I pretend i do not see. Orkz riding wierd fuckin' squigz and using bits of robots like plate armor as the ork equivalent to dark angels larping as knights is all i need.

and so should you, take the snaggapill lads, a cheeky little 500pts for small games couldn't hurt none...
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>>98244608
Legends its irrelevant. Why are the rules so boring?
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>>98244666
nta + hello satan

To think these are supposed to be remakes of the boarboyz.
I think it's less of an idea problem and more of an execution problem.
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>>98244470
Smol bird for my harlequins going to the collage.
I hate how AoS has the monopoly of cool animal minis. I want dogs to go with my Templars. Even AoS squigs are better.
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alright, turns out there’s a sale on for gorkanauts at my LGS, so I’m going to go through with the mussolini fascist headquarters idea and use that instead of an outright stompa. what word do you think would fit pic related, but for orks?
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>>98244642
then I wasn't talking to you
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>>98244629
Thanks anon and the flags are cut from a drinks can, it meant I could bend them pretty easily.
The little fasteners holding them to the flagpole are just a thin strip of the can curled over and glued on
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Tourney champ here, I would destroy each and every one of you in 10th ed.
You can ama, but the answer will inevitably come back to skill issue (yours, to be precise)
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>>98244693
orkish glyph for family
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>>98244470
another lord exultant for my EC, happy I’m able to finally use my Jump lord for something after 2 years.
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is it unneccessary if i still do cut, knife, file each part on assembly?
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>>98244693

W A A A G H

People are going to assume you are a cryptofascist though.
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>>98244605
Wouldn't exist without BL slop or if all of the old edges hadn't been shaved off
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>Looked through recently the Warhammer website and realized Canoness Veridyan is no longer being made
Well damn. Good thing I bought her brand new for 20 euros 3 years ago. It seems that bare model is 70 euros on ebay and over 100 euros if it's sealed.
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>>98244719

Like the rumor they're going to bring Vects party boat back without the Slave Leia decorations. Can't we have a little horniness as a treat?
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>>98244693
kinda weird making orks fascists. i've always viewed orks as the anarchist foil to the imperiums fascism. whereas the imperium wants to organize the whole universe under the state by force, orks want to disorganize the whole universe from everything by force.
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>>98244726
were the skull boobs really necessary
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>>98244693
>ZOG
>DAKKA
>ORKS
>GIT
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>>98244742
Very necessary
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>>98244742
Yes
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>>98244742
Not only they were necessary, they are the reason the artwork, and sisters of battle in their post-RT look, existed in the first place.
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>>98244742
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>>98244742

100%
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>>98244608
>Implying the HERO OF THE IMPERIUM is not a legend.
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>>98244742
the joke is that shes flat
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>>98244470
Leg guys
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>>98244742
Necessary is an understatement.
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>>98244726
I remember buying mine and the warehouse said she had gone off hunting daemons (they were out of stock) and they would send me one when they made more.
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>>98244740
Orks lore is explicit about the fact that when young Orks have their equivalent of teen rebellion they instead become heavily militarized and authoritarian. It's the whole point about Stormboyz. Most Orks grow out of it however.
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>>98244740
But orks have the most obvious and intuitive hierarchies in the setting: biggest ork = boss. They aren't anarchists.
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>>98244470
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>>98244788

"biggest = boss" is the practical result of anarchism, so it still works.
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>>98244782
I bought mine in September of 23 and got it just fine. I also bought a metal missionary. I think that was the last metal 40k model GW still sold brand new.
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>>98244742
to be like the original artwork they are
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>>98244806
What's that bat feller in the background supposed to be? Vampire?
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>>98244718
>cryptofascist
I don’t care what others think of me desu, I have friends who know I’m eccentric, and so will understand that I’m making it purely for fun.
>>98244745
ooh, as much as I like the others, I think “orks” fits the spirit of the fascist building very nicely.
>>98244740
> orks as the anarchist foil to the imperiums fascism. whereas the imperium wants to organize the whole universe under the state by force, orks want to disorganize the whole universe from everything by force.
I never thought of it that way, but there are orks who follow the imperium’s way of thinking instead of the right orky way.
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>>98244804
This was pre-refresh, it was just a temp thing.
Were they really still selling new metal in 23? damn
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>>98244610
Why does everyone on the internet call me a Puritan? I don't even want to remove the Catholic influence on the Church of England!
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>>98244816
Yep battle sister preacher and missionarys were still metal in 2023. Same model as the 2nd edition battle sister launch from 1997. 26 year models.

cost 15 euros in 2023
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>>98244788
I’m not an anarchist, but AFAIK they follow no “unjust” hierarchies, so as long as there is no oppression of people below, and there’s a relatively easy path to advancement, then its anarchism working fine.
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>>98244608
That's how GW has handled BL models for a few years now.
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Ahriman status?
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>>98244829
That's absolutely retarded because it would imply that something like Star Trek is anarchist.
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>>98244829
>so as long as there is no oppression of people below
The Gretchin Revolutionary Committee exists for a reason
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>>98244467
The Skull Cannon not being a vehicle is genuine nonsense
There is literally zero justification for it not having that keyword
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>>98244811
Like a servo skull, but even edgier, if you want something with actual fluff, closest thing is probably a caryatid.
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>>98244740
>i've always viewed orks as the anarchist foil to the imperiums fascism.
The original tactical marine marking has always been the Arrow of Law, they fight the Star of Chaos, aka csm.
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>>98244847
Isn't that just a demon with a metallic appearance? Like a less animalistic juggernaut?
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>>98244487
purge is a noob trap and all the casuals are falling for it
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>>98244856
They're stated to be forged and built, so they're probably daemon-stuff pounded into a mechanical shape and function. If a Maulerfiend counts as a vehicle, I don't see why it wouldn't.
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>>98244856
Pretty sure they're demon engines like mauler fiends (which get the vehicle keyword, despite not having passengers)
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>>98244864
>>98244877
The question I use to decide these things is, if brought inside a null field, like a Necron one, It would cease to work or it would vanish into thin air? In the first case it's a possessed vehicle, in the second it's a metallic demon.
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>>98244836
only exists for redeploying sehketar robots (nerfed further in 11e with overwatch changes)
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Can't wait for another exciting shitshow!
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>>98244814
>cryptofascist because army has some militaristic motif
How common are players at the lgs like this to assume a person’s 40k army is a reflection of the person’s values and personality?
I assume very rare.
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>>98244884
Yeah, sure, that works. The Imperial Armour books used to distinguish between built-in-realspace daemon engines and summoned-from-the-warp ones (which was given to explain why some of the models have daemon chambers and some don't).
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It's plain bad. Everything except the ophydians were in starters or the old hachette imperium magazine meaning they were super cheap.

Serious talk about how much you can get the contents for:

Warriors x2: $10x2
CCB: $40
Doomstalker: $50
Flayed ones: Just kitbash 5 warriors so $5
Total: $115

So at RRP $230 the question is if you want to pay $115 for the ophydians which are RRP $65 (also ophydians suck)

>>98243342
Doomstalkers are definitely underrated but warriors and doomstalkers can be found for cheap so you're better off looking for the 500 Worlds destroyer box, plenty of stores still have it in stock and it's a way better complement for the CP than the new battleforce
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>>98244855
>The original tactical marine marking has always been the Arrow of Law, they fight the Star of Chaos
this reminds me of that one schizo who thought the arrows in the core rules and spectre squad were palestinian dog whistles.
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>>98244903
Over-under for how many times the audio will cut out?
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>>98244903
Only codexes and painted terrain preview for 40k. Nothing remotely interesting going on.
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>>98244453
SEXOOO
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>>98244906
Nonexistent, it only perpetually online sjw
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>>98244709
Damn thats hot!
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>>98244487
>titanics can do actions while in engagement range
>titanics can shoot after doing actions
>titanics can shoot in engagement range
>towering (most titanics) get BS+1 within 12" such as when in engagement range
solution: 3 necron obelisks doing actions (also causing battleshock on a 22" diameter every turn with the 1 DP detachment)
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>>98244912
Whoops that was for >>98244777 if that anon's still here
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>>98244453
>what is you opinion on Force Dispositions?
I worry that since the fans think Force Dispositions will be a way to balance the game, the rules writers will also do that. Force Dispositions would have to be wildly unbalanced to be a lever to balance lists/factions.
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>>98244605
Who is your master, Visa or Mastercard? Which advertising agency holds your soul, pathetic slave?
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I hope everyone who got the 11th edition box is having fun assembling it. I haven't posted much this month, but I am wondering what the collage theme is set for in June?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwsPI36OV9M

THat shit is so cool to me. How could you use it in 40k?
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>>98244992
Quick and nimble is the theme for june
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>>98245007
Thank you, I guess I will paint one of the Vanguard veterans and call it a day.
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>>98244654
its an act that is his single defining character trait you retard
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>>98245004
skin of tzeench demon prince
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>>98245004
Grey knight armor
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>>98244608
what's wrong with legends? you play with legends right? you aren't a disgusting compfag right?
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Were stratagems a mistake?
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>>98244915
At least 30 times if they atempt fixes.

>>98244920
There were leaks or just guessing?
I am hoping for the Ork bikers.
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>>98244470
Kitbashed lootas
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>>98244572
Where a kid can be a kid!
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>>98245043
no, i think they've made the game more interesting overall. they are better though when the average army only has access to like 6-9 of them instead of a whole 30.

the mistake was overcomplicating scoring with cards and actions and high point counts
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>>98245043
I think platenary assault stratagems were cool.
But we're not talking about those.
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>>98245054
kek
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>>98245052
using marine legs for the orks is so smart. do you know if the chests and arms can be reused for orks in some way?
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I'm working on a starting White Scars list to use as many of my minis as possible. I need a bit of help with assigning heroes to units correctly.
Currently I plan to run a 6-man Bike Squad bubble with an Attack Bike, a Tactical Squad in a Rhino and a 5-man unit of Assault Terminators.
For HQs I want to field a Captain, a Chaplain and a Librarian. Which one of those three should get a bike, a Terminator armour or end up crammed in a Rhino with Tacs?
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Look at the necron side and try to guess how much fun I had fighting him.
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>>98244619
Kill rigs are cool
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>>98245047
>There were leaks or just guessing?
Literally in the article.
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>>98244453
Purge is good but not broken, disruption and priority assets suck shit
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hello i am indian
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Currently building a melee-focused CSM list (Creations of Bile). About how many supplementary ranged units should I be taking, and what are good options? Like a 4:1 melee:ranged ratio, or maybe 9:1? Are Havocs good?
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>>98245047
>There were leaks or just guessing?
They said that they are going to reveal a codex, and it would be strange for them to reveal miniatures because they just started the campaign whose big deal is that who wins gets a miniature reveal each week.
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>>98245085
I think I've seen people use marine torsos
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>>98245135
Grab a forgefiend or two, or maybe a defiler or a chaos knight to ally in. You're gonna want something that can take out big vehicles at range. Anyone who's not retarded won't just let you charge them unfortunately.
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>>98244903
Hrud codex reveal incoming
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>>98245132
hello indian I am dad
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>>98245135
Havocs got better since they ignore cover, and autocannons are more useful too
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>>98245095
>only one c'tan
>only one DDA
>only one unit of wraiths

Looks pretty fun. Kill (or tag for BS-1) the DDA, screen nightbringer, ignore wraiths. Simple.
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>>98244903
>no longer basedjacking
they saw the meme
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>>98244933
>>98244906

Of course your army reflects who you are as a person? It is a massive collection of your personal choices, from rules to units to aesthetics.

Even if you are playing unpainted models of whatever army is strongest that month, that is still very indicative of who you are as a person.
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>>98245238
>one c'tan
there was a void dragon in reserve
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>>98245303
Just screen the C'tan with infantry spread out, GSC is actually one of the best armies for screwing them over by wasting their activations. The DDA is the biggest threat to you in that necron list
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>>98245283
nta
Some artistic and creative output is necessarily part of the creator, but also a variety of other inspirations and derived sources.
People can be interested in part of a wargame or a faction or a historical period without that being who they are. Its just something of interest to them, rather than an aspiration.
You've got to learn how to separate interest from endorsement or adherence otherwise you can only have creation directly in line with whatever ideological baggage you have decided is important.
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>>98245283
>Even if you are playing unpainted models of whatever army is strongest that month, that is still very indicative of who you are as a person.

Probably says more about a person than a fully painted ultramarine army.
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>>98244921
Best girl and best primarch!
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>>98244843
Star Trek *IS* anarchist though. That's why they always spent so much time fighting the klingons, romulans, borg, dominion et al. The Federation is absolutely and completely allergic to any sort of hierarchy other than their own, and the direct cause of them interfering in the klingon succession at least 3 separate times.
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>>98245348
PUFFY
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Anvil Siege Defense - 2DP
Wrathful Procession - 1DP
>In Melee, they get +1 to strength, +1 to wound against toughness equal or greater than their strength
>str5 will have wound rolls against T5-T9 targets be 4+.
>Heavy weapons standing still gets+1 to wound (they can move 3" retaining heavy status)

I want to run an Intercessor heavy army with this. Heavy Intercessors and Heavy Bolter Eradicators to fill it. Anvil Siege Force lets me use a returning gravis captain on a 2+.

>tl;dr I want an all-rounder bolt rifle/heavy bolt rifle/heavy bolter themed army that can chew through large targets
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Thought I'd spoil the surprise by reminding you what the rumours are for the upcoming preview

- 40k is more or less going to get what is said in the video. New codex reveal and some terrain. Likely codex timeline like last edition. 40k will be getting new miniatures via the campaign thing anyway.
- Kill Team is going to be Exodites vs Ork Nobs (Kill Team is "off the scales"
- Necromunda is going to be a new big box. No big rumours about brand new stuff, so probably a re-do of older teams.
AoS (if anyone cares) is going to be more Ogres and maybe a chaos dragon.
- Some random blood bowl team/character no one cares about
- Legions Imperialis still exists (but shouldn't)
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>>98245348
This is so fucking cringe.
How can you unironically enjoy this shit.
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>>98245396
We're all manchildren for being here in the first place. You do not know old /tg/ do you?
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>>98245389
Necromunda is 100% a refresh of old gangs. People in the (pretty tight-knit) community have known its coming for awhile now. SGS will also be moving away from resin releases with the new edition.
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Kill all mon-keigh
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>>98245422
>escher refresh
This could be big or this could be mega gay
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Why does the app say in the rules that I can attach a supporting character onto my squad (20 guardsman with a command squad, want to add a primaris psyker or commissar) but doesn't let me add both?
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>>98245095
>only one ctan

looks fine? maybe you just suck.
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>>98245336

That's why its called a "reflection" of who you are. Reflections never perfectly encompass reality, but they do contain truth.
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>>98245443
As in, doesn't let me add the command squad and one character.
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>>98245443
They should remove that rule and give CCS Support imo
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>>98245452
ctan are the ultimate scrub filter
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>>98245454
does psyker have the leader or support ability? might just be a bug desu
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>continuing process of building Armageddon kits
>the Banner Nob, Big Boss, and Pain Boy are all on the same sprue
Either Orks are getting a little command squad box or these specific sculpts are gonna be trapped in the starter sets.
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are terminators better in this edition?
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>>98245238
>>98245452
C'tan are fucking great because casual players like having centerpieces and so usually have the tools to deal with C'tan. It's only the tryhard meta-chasing retards chugging the "balanced MSU for objective play" goonhammer koolaid who get fucked by them.
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>>98245464
nothing I can find has the SUPPORT ability.
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>>98245453
Anon, do you think all the historical wargamers, authors, historians, museum curators, libraries and anything else that has information on zulus are in fact reflecting their zuluness?
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>>98245485
Guard doesn't have support characters, only leaders, you can only take one. They explicitly didn't add support in the faction pack.
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>>98245283
no, anon, collecting demon worshippers doesn't mean you are a demon worshipper, leave the satanic panic in the last century.
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>>98245496
Well that's a bit shit, isn't it?
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>>98245384

Can you still use the "old" Wrathful Procession detachment now that it has been reworked for 11th? I don't know how these things work.
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>>98245490
>>98245498

If you see someone playing Daemons, it doesn't mean they worship Satan. But it IS fair to assume that they find SOMETHING about Daemons to be cool or interesting. Or someone is holding a gun to their head.
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>>98245471
>regular Terminators drop to 160 points and don’t have to pay for war gear
>Assault Terminators drop to 155 points and pay 5 points for hammers
>characters dropped in points too
They’re definitely more viable now, especially with the Battleshock buff. If they write a new Terminator detachment that’s good I think they can cross over into being plainly good instead of “viable if you insist on it”
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>>98245503
if there is a new detachment called "Wrathful Procession" you can't use the old one (in competitive games).
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>>98245471
just use deathwatch if you want to use terms
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>>98245470
you will simpley be forced to buy them all at once under some retarded name
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>>98245521
You can't answer the question at all.
What's wrong with finding something interesting?
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>>98245522
>>98245529
I meant terminators all around, I was honestly thinking about chaos terminators first and foremost my bad.
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>>98245521
>you can't find nazi orks funny, you MUST be a nazi yourself
>everyone who ever drew or acted out parodies on hitler was a nazi too
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I want to play a tau Farsight Enclaves, video game.
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>>98245521
What kind of retarded argument is this?
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>>98244634
Giga based
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>>98245443
Oh wow, guard doesn't actually have support anywhere. Big nerf until faq.
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>>98245599
It's in both the app and the faction pack. It's clearly a deliberate balance decision.
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>>98244811
Edgy Cherub.
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>>98244470
These are some electro prists that i sculpted some time ago
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>>98245549
>>98245559
>>98245585

Do you understand that your expressive choices lead neurotypical individuals to draw implicit inferences beyond their explicit information?
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>98245623
You're not neurotypical, nobody sane thinks someone's sci-fi plastic ork toys are a statement about their political ideology.

Go touch some grass.
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>>98244829
Ork society is extremely oppressive, what the fuck are you on about?
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imperial assassins are such badasses, hopefully they'll get some fresh sculpts within the next 5-ish years
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>>98245283
Ah yes I do enjoy women and having a big family.
That is clearly the reason why I started GSC
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>>98245624
I would love a multibuild haemonculus.
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>>98245621
how difficult would it be for them to show some ribs
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>>98245632

>nobody sane thinks someone's sci-fi plastic ork toys are a statement about their political ideology.

If you come in with a Mussolini-inspired Stompa, I'm going to be actively praying you're just autistic and not a fascist.
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>>98245641
You'll get monopose models and if you are lucky you might get dual pose models.
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>>98245647
>Mussolini-inspired Stompa
Can I see it?
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>>98245647
>If you come in with a Mussolini-inspired Stompa
got pics? that sounds wild
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>>98245623
You actually can't answer the question.
Do you think interest is endorsement?
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>>98245656
>>98245658

Read the thread, that's what started this conversation in the first place.
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>>98244470
This Moirax is the 2nd of three that i'm working on
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>>98245651
I don't care about the pose so long as there are options like the Archon got
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>>98245647
This is the problem. You can't accept that people enjoy various things you're afraid of.
Most humans don't care about things the way you do and its unreasonable to expect them to conform to that just because you're afraid of some sort of nono word.
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>>98245664
You can't just drop something as rad as Mussolini-inspired Stompa and not share pictures of it.
Or are you telling me it is a strawman and no stompa exist?
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>>98245643
not that much i could sculpt them but tbhonest it was awhile and i posted in the wrong thread but anyways, i think i've gotten better at sculpting
Thing is that i don't even know if its worth it to do some details when the minis are so small. I've done these ultra detailed ones that just are overkill at this scale
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>>98245674
he's still conceptualizing it illiterate-kun
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>>98245647
Because you've got brainworms, not because you're neurotypical.
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>building Ork half of Armageddon
>Warboss and Weirdboy are cool
>get to the Bigboss
>noticeably smaller, barely bigger than a Space Marine if that
>feel a sense if disappointment and disgust at his size
Ork factions for this feel?
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>>98245674
I've done the legwork and can report that, at this point, it only exists as in idea in the mind of another anon.
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>>98245687
Shame.
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>>98244634
scan it so I can print one, looks great
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>>98245422
Are Scavvies just entirely forgotten at this point? It was my gang back in the day and I'm not really interested in buying into a new one.
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>>98245686
deathskulls, blue is a cool colour, the idea of warpaints is inspiring, but then you get to actually paint them and it just turns out that green+blue don't make for a good combination without something else, and blue armor plates look particularly cheap and toylike, plus the subfaction doesn't have actual cool lore or aesthetics like the other klans.
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>>98245701
Mostly yes, closest thing you have now is playing mutant outcasts.
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>>98245684
>feel a sense if disappointment and disgust at his size
>Ork factions for this feel?
Diggaz.
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>>98245091
Shameless selfbump.
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>>98245359
>get attacked
>fight back
>"Why are you guys such faggots?"
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>>98244626
Glad to see you finished your project.
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So has the new edition brought forth any new lore worth noting?
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>>98245778
no
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>>98244608
No idea. A model being released straight into legends undercuts sales every time so you think GW wouldn’t do it.
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>>98244608
blacked library and the miniatures they produce are not contractually allowed to touch mainline 40k
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Nice try, eBay.
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>>98245778
no not really. Some big names are on armageddon as of right now and the legion of the damned has been rumored to be there because guardsmen saw "space marines in flames that came out of nowhere" thats it.
Tu'Shan is on Armageddon and still Calgar got a whole story block for himself even though he isnt there.... Fucking Ultrasissies
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>>98244453
>40k.gallery poll
How do I make it clear that each iteration gets progressively less interesting and progressively more like a teenager drawing his headcanon of the Star Trek Mirrorverse?
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>>98245671
What kind of options would you want it to have?
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>>98245778
It’s gonna follow 10th style lore.
Marines win/draw opening fight, it’s then ignored for 2 years until the end of edition campaign throws some crumbs out for Valrak to onions over and then 12th.
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>>98244986
the agency of not being an annoying coomer jacking off to shitty tranny art

>oh but what if (character) was actually BIG BOOBS MUSCLE MOMMY THAT FUCKING DOMMED ME OH MY GODDDDD OUGHHH

"men" like this are so unbelivably fucking gay
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>>98244470
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>>98245686
A big boss is basically just a slightly above average boy so it makes sense they aren't huge
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>>98245921
muscle mommies are hot, but I want to have a tough struggle that ends in breaking them, I don't want to be domed
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>>98245952
As the old saying goes: You can't rape the willing
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>>98244605
Big muscle mommies are my thing.
The warhammer 40k primarch female renditions are pretty good.
But I want to see you post that to plebbit and see how fast you get banned or if not how much seethe you generate.
I don’t want to do it because I’m lazy.
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>>98245967
good idea anon, only question is do any of my burners have enough karma/activity to not get all their posts instantly removed by their dogshit "moderation"
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Warhammer high :D
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>>98246005
It was always outstanding cringe
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>>98245995
>that post
No wonder Reddit is a cesspit.
The website and community forces one to be a yes man for karma to even use the place.

Has there ever been funny warhammer 40k subreddit drama that just blew up? I remember pic related being a bit of a meme.
I guarantee nobody here right now could make those 40k communities implode.
It has to happen because it organically became an Olympic pool of gasoline for some lad to light a match or for a janny over there to bigly fuck up.
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>>98245873
A few weapon/gear options, at the very least enough to represent the weapons that both the old and current model have. A female chest/head option would be nice too.
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>>98246024
You were never here for it, larper-kun
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>>98246040
I was, that's why I said it was always outstanding cringe.

Stop projecting your newfaggotry.
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>>98244470
Omnissiah forgive me
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>>98246045
>n-no u
every time with you election tourists
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>>98246074
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>>98246074
anons making his own ordinatus
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>>98246098
>doubles down on projecting
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>>98246120
Yes that's what (you) are doing, very good!
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>>98246024
At least people back then we're earnest enough not to worry about some spergs on the internet thinking they were being cringe.
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>>98246005
There's a reason nobody cared over the years.
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>>98246141
Because artist just moved on to straight rule63.
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>>98246139
At the very least they had enough awareness to properly seclude themselves in containment threads instead of spamming their shit in the normal threads only to cry like a bitch when people tell them to take their fap sessions somewhere else.
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>>98246163
revisionist retard lmao
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>>98246035
recent had a hysterical meltdown in my dms because some mod was upset about an innocuous joking post about women competing with LLMs in the technology subreddit
it was so bad that reddit admin rescinded my warning and deleted the mod's message content (while of course leaving the ban in place b/c of ~community moderation~)

and that's one of their big front page subs, too. not to mention the dozens of sanctioned mental illness subreddits about aliens. that place is GONE.
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>>98246176
Don't be retarded, /tg/ still had life beyond the generals back then.
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>>98246163
>instead of spamming their shit in the normal threads
Why do people get mad when people post 40k in the 40k general?
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>>98246220
it's not "40k", it's porn with a vague 40k reskin

and most often it's not even actually 40k but 30k
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>>98246220
Modern 40k is hardly 40k, so when the base game is not even 40k related posting old memes and/or low quality fetish drawings do not help to the general quality of the general.
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>>98246227
Did you have this much of a a cry when pinup poster was still around?
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>sex is le bad
>sex is le good
never change /tg/, a tale as old as elves
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>>98246243
note how you called him pinup poster and not 40k poster because you admit the point isn't contributing to the thread but posting your porn
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>>98246227
at least mods cracked down on the AI generated slop waifu posting. Porn is one thing, there are always going to be maladjusted sex addicts (its 4chan after all) but at least make it nice art and not sloppa
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>>98246248
>contribute to the thread
are you farming "good" threads to feed your family or
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>>98246248
Because pinup poster posted in /40kg/ so there was already the 40k context, you trying to build an argument out of semantics.
Would you pull the same argument if some one said Orange & Teal poster?
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>>98246267
>nooooo stop you're having too much SEX, you're ADDICTED TO SEX
never really thought this would be a problem for fa/tg/uys to deal with
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>>98246074
You roll a one on that and a hive city sized radius is a toasty crater.
What colors are you gonna give those plasma coils?
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>>98246271
Probably a pleddit refuge that feels the need for over moderation and punishing wrongthink
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>>98244470
Finished just in time for the new edition
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>>98246279
the chemical release in the brain from sex and masturbation is the same. its the same addiction, you can call gooning 4 times a day with a permanent semi chub sex addiction
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>>98246178
I hope one of the big 40k subreddits has a hilarious implosion.
Except sigmarxism. May it stand forever to always make their beliefs look bad by being themselves.
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>>98246289
apothecary... ah... im dayin... take my seed. TAKE MY SEED, DOC.
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>>98246209
we didn't have regular generals in 2008 retard-kun
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>>98246285
i wish i had the old alexa rankings / facebook copypasta, i could use it every day on 2026 4chan
funny that we're apparently the world's biggest freaks and yet somehow these people just can't stay away, anywhere you go they need to follow and tell you how sick you make them
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>>98246298
>>98246289
Marines are so IDF coded with all their seed retrieving shenanigans
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>>98246285
You're the one crying against anyone who doesn't indulge in your porn.
Look at this shit
>>98246040
>>98246098
>>98246126
>>98246176
>>98246220
>>98246243
>>98246279
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>>98246323
multi-quote one of my posts with someone other anon again and i will spend the rest of tomorrow manually posting board-compliant 40k ecchi
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>>98246331
nta but lets be real you were going to do it anyway

BIG BEAUTIFUL BOUNCING BANSHEE BUTTS or whatever
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>>98246331
Nta but so it.
Reach image limit before bump with tasteful 40k pics.
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>>98246304
Nobody said anything about the regularity of the generals.
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>>98246331
>if you call me out I'll keep doing what I'm already doing and do what I already wanted to do
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I wish the Warlocks kit had just one more Warlock. It would be much easier to make a whole Council that had some variation that way.
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>>98246355
>more
WHAT?
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>>98246353
you're wrong, i'm but a leaf on the wind of the boards brought here by a specific post in the last thread
but i'll be damned if i 'll let karen eat another hobbyspace, mtg was my line in the sand

daily reminder women are not allowed in this hobby unless they shill relentlessly for sexualization
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>>98245778
Somehow ... Gazgul and Yarrik returned just so a new random commissar Boss Lady can humble them.
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>>98246323
Your about as accurate as Dick Cheney using bird shot.
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BWUUUGH
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>>98246323
>everybody who disagrees with my wannabe jannying is the same person!!!
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baby
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>>98246368
Admiral purple hair from that Star Wars movie was meant to be a bad leader to trick future writers into making bad female leaders.
I’m still waiting for the director to confirm this.

I think one of the tricked writers made it into black library and that 40k lady commissar is one of them. Maybe that horus heresy world eaters lady is one of them too but memes have warped perceptions of her I think.
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>>98246382
All I want from the range update is big tanks.
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>>98246347
Now post the one with her getting eaten by an ork
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>>98246382
now we're talkin, enough of the either/or
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>>98246389
Did the ork vehicles from forgeworld get 1:1 stl remakes like the guard and marine vehicles?
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>>98244392
New Kill Team Season seems a fair bet.
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Exodite Kill Team riding feathered raptors, I'm calling it now.

Question is, what do you think they're fighting in the other half of the box?
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>>98246355
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>Kill Team rumored to be Exodites vs. Ork Nobz

The monkey paw twist is that it's not vanilla Nobz, but Snagga Nobz.
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>>98246408
Ork nobs
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>>98246408
dark eldar archon,
yes, another refresh
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>>98246408
Catachans would be the obvious choice, so we can be fairly confident GW won't choose them and make a decision all together more retarded.
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I’m basing my Eldar on alien jungle bases in anticipation of Exodites. Should I do the same for my Deldar? I might want to play ynnari one day
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>>98246423
>so we can be fairly confident GW won't choose them and make a decision all together more retarded.
They already did that with the red terror vs guerrilla cadians instead of just normal catachans
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>>98246421
Man, I keep forgetting we got a new one
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>>98246444
clearly an indication that we need another one it's also vs court
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>>98246423
>no kroots vs catachans
>no striking scorpions vs catachans
>no raveners vs catachans
>no red terror vs catachans
>no exodites vs catachans
I swear to fucking god if they bundle catachans with some bitch ass chaos shits
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Any boomers or as we say now “uncs” in here able to vouch for the quality of the discontinued devlan mud and badab black gw washes?

We’re they genuinely good color wise and would have been better than the current agrax/nuln if they had modern acrylic wash tech applied?

Closest one seems to be Armypainter’s strong tone wash and maybe speedpaint medium makes it stain less but shade detail better.
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>>98246423
>>98246452
Poxwalkers with one Death Guard sorcerer
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Goodnight boys and girls
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>>98246452
>kroots vs catachans
Hear me out - Kroot Hawks.
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>>98246411
Wow this is a great post, thanks anon.
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>>98246347
>>98246390
>*MUNCH* *MUNCH* *MUNCH*
BURRRPPP
>*MUNCH* *MUNCH* *MUNCH*
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How many excuses will they have for why the app is incorrect in so many places and constantly crashes?
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>>98246492
It was coded by the same guy who does audio for their streams, please understand.
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>>98246499
Oh, the one-armed Peruvian with Downs?
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>>98246492
They’ll probably just say nothing.
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>>98246485
Do Orks canonically eat humans?
Do they even eat?
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What are these things on the new speeder? Are they gun barrels?
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>>98246512
He's actually Bolivian, but yeah.
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>>98246532
They something you can ask about.
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>>98246532
We still haven’t figured out what the Cawl cylinder’s function is.
At best it is a rule of cool thing a designer likes and at worst it is some kind of trademarked aesthetic.
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>>98246549
Are you a bot? Neither of those are the cawl cylinder
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>>98246532
They're the world renown thingies that have the same function as the more classical thongies on the previous land speeders.

I have genuinely no idea
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>>98246532
those can't be extra guns, the datasheet says it has 2 guns and some rockets and those are all clearly visible elsewhere on the model
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>>98246525
No, and yes. They eat squigs.
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>>98246492
For me it's the fact that the new wallpaper on login is an AI gen
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>>98246582
No it isn't Mohindur
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Good luck enforcing that base size when most of the Lords of Contagion out there are the Dark Imperium one on a 50mm.
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>>98246562
>are you a bot
No I don’t spam “traditional games?” On every thread or demand models posted on warhammer threads outside the general.

I only mentioned the Cawl cylinder because it is for the most part what looks like a useless greeble for a design. And the anon with the speeder pic’s highlighted details are also probably a useless greeble unless some fluff comes out that says otherwise.
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>>98246588
Kek post it.
The goblin in the foreground is standing right next to the space marine without aiming at him as if they were buddies,
There is a skull on the ground near the left that has an eye socket for a nose
The ship in the upper right background is literally just a random smudge
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>>98246597
braindead zoomer
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>>98246608
BASED
>>98246597
Shut the fuck up you fucking retard.
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>>98246414
Annoyingly, that would make sense for the box
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>>98246597
Kill yourself.
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>>98246414
>rumored to be
no it isn't, that's your wishlist
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>>98246588
>>98246608
Best posts ITT.
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>>98246597
Jesus fuck what an embarrassing post
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Which edition had the best rules for non-special character snipers (ie not a Vindicare).
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>>98246667
Dark Heresy First Edition
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>>98246597
I hope you suffer pancreatic cancer.
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>>98246597
I love how no organic user on /40kg/ actually uses the app so this post will go unchecked as shills call it bullshit.
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>>98246525
>>98246576
Yes and yes, Evil Sun Rising describes Uggrim pulling a knight pilot out of his stricken walker and eating him, but he also eats cooked squig
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>>98246525
they get all their nutrients from photosynthesis, but they prefer meat, and usually that’s squig meat, but can be humans if its available.
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Should I base my Wyches and Kabalites on 28mm bases instead of 25s? Do we reasonably expect them to get bigger at some point this edition?
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>>98244608
All special characters should be legends.
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>>98244608
Legends is where the good shit is at.
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>>98246836
Up to and especially Primarchs
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>>98246331
Fucking do it faggot
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>>98246865
>star wars legends
>first thought is of darth revan
profoundly shit taste.
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What if they made Guilliman and Yvraine fucking canon. Would yo be mad?
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>>98246946
>GW
>doing ANYTHING of note with Yvraine in 2026
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>>98246946
Not as mad as GW would have to be to ever do something like that. The Thanksgiving art they posted has haunted them for a long time.
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>>98244470
Never painted minis before this squad of death korps. I thought it was pretty fun and Im probably gonna get either the kroot killteam or the imperial navy breachers killteam cause they both look pretty cool.
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>>98247027
Here's the plasma gunner since the image compression thing I used made it grey for some reason.
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Need color scheme ideas for Votann, anyone got the lego image?
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>>98246923
What's Harry Mudd doing in Star Wars?
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>>98247035
cool dolls, do the kroot box
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>>98246923
This. Space Jesus is better. Beards make it better.
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>>98247041
You know despite having a lot of nostalgia for Rock Raiders, I have to admit... the color scheme was insane and maybe not in a good way.
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>tfw still dont understand how cult ambush works

if my unit gets wiped out in my opponents turn and dont choose to use the ambush marker can i bring it back straight away from reserves in my turn?
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>Eventually wanna try out a different war game besides Warhammer
>Only store in my city is GW
>The rest are in other cities
Someone should open a war game store in my city, I wouldn't know how they would open one but I bet they'd be flourishing.
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>>98247177
I am so tempted to do rock raiders or ice planet for a whole army but actually playing Votann sounds like cocknball torture
Maybe if their 11th codex unfucks their transports and fills out their range a little
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>>98246574
that thing has a fair bit of firepower
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>>98247219
Votann gameplay killed destiny so of course it's not good
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>>98247235
no one cares about your autistic hyperfixation
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>>98247235
In what fucking way does Votann look like Destiny?
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>>98247245
Keep crying dedstinyfag. Your /v/otann aren't 40k.
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I too use separate devices to reply to a post. I am also the Destinyfag.
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>>98247245
>>98247247
stop replying, he's been trying to force this for 4 years straight
he's not mentally well
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>>98247027
>>98247035
RED team lookin ass
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As a Destinyfag, I can assure you that the League of Votann looks completely authentically 40k and that we didn't rip anything from Destiny. No we did not. Trust me. We didn't. Did I say we didn't? Because we didn't. And you can trust it is completely 40k from the ground up because I said so.
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>>98247256
>replying to yourself
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>>98247041
green and purple
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>>98247266
That is normal around here. That is how 40k generals operate. Not how Destiny generals operate. And you can trust me on that.
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>>98247266
NOOO STOP EXPOSING ME
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The Destinyfag tries a cunning new trick. He calls for his fellow Destinyfags as backup when asking questions that need a PhD in Destiny studies. It's a useful trick he does but nobody plays his dead game.
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>>98247266
>>98247273
>a minute apart
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I, for one, would like the LoV to be destiny. Anons post it as a bad thing but I believe that is an improvement and would encourage it.
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>>98247272
>>98247273
>13 seconds apart
Is that you Xehanort?
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>>98247281
>>98247287
Me too
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>>98247288
Wait, did you really time your reply 13 seconds before mine? That's some coincidence if you didn't.
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>>98247177
Anyone remember Aqua Raiders?
>>98247219
You could always just do a Kill Team.
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>>98247201
Be the change you want to be in the world
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>>98247299
40k lacks underwater stuff
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>>98247290
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>>98247304
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>>98247322
Zgoks are better
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>>98247304
You just know that the Dark Mechanicum has cooked up some scary-ass underwater daemon engines
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>>98247304
40k lacks environments that are just giant blobs of water floating in space.
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>>98247346
What about gas giants? Stories of orbital mining facilities harvesting from them or even set inside via tech that allows it?
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>>98246574
just notice this guys are missing their pauldrons
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>>98247304
yeah it lacks some idoneth that are deep for the kin.
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>>98247399
You jest, but Eldar Exodites riding dinosaurs, sharks and turtles would be awesome.
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>>98247279
can we bring the decalmutant back at least it was funny when he crashed out
this shit is just lame
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>destinyfag replies to himself for attention after his false flag attempt fails
Wait, I know how to use capital letters so I'm not the fuck off destinyfag guy.
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Decalfag secretly defending himself.
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why are these threads so bad at any given time?
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>>98247304
DAoT or xenos underwater city colony.
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>>98247418
stop giving the guy forcing the meme attention if you don't want him spamming like this
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I also reply to myself telling myself not to reply to myself.
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>>98247434
I recall there being an underwater city or forgeworld or something that's full of AI/Men of Iron and too tough to take over (I think they sent Knights or Titans or something underwater and they couldn't get the job done)
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>>98247446
Me too.
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>>98247434
>Methane planet
>not Methamphetamine planet
The Destinyfags disappoint me yet again. I do a simple Google Search to see if your game has an underwater planet and technically there is but it's the wrong type of meth.
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>>98247465
That sounds like an extremely Slaanesh idea, a literal meth planet. There's bound to be daemon worlds where everyone gets high on the planet itself.
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>>98247447
Okay I majorly misremembered and the MoI actually jobbed
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>>98247465
>Why is this planet's ocean so blue?
>Takes test
>It's all meth
That's a plot twist.
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Started putting together my Armageddon box today (Got through the Ork characters + half the Boyz/Gretchin so far) and god these are so much nicer to put together than the 9th edition pushfit boyz. I don't know what they were thinking with most of those.
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>>98244654
monke
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>>98247485
thanks for your blog anon where can i like and subscribe?
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>>98247465
One of the best areas in Destiny 2. Shame it had so many invisible walls and was effectively locked from players post Vaulting.
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>>98247469
>living on Slaanesh world
>no flour so everyone tries making bread from cocaine
>your water is so spiked with drugs that it's more drugs than H2O
>the flowers all give off drugged scents
>the sun or anything close is psychedelic too
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The Destinyfag must tell me how to get a Meth planet.
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>>98247501
>no flour so everyone tries making bread from cocaine
Reminds me of the coke sandwiches from Arby j the Chief machinima.
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>>98247465
Anon has made me sad by reminding me that there is noting like SIVA in 40k & that no Votann is anything alike Rasputin.
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>>98247485
I've not assembled the 9e boyz before but I do think there's still a few pain points with the new ones, as far as assembling goes. The fact that all the ones holding their shootas in both arms basically asking you to hold and fit together 3 pieces simultaneously is obnoxious.
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>>98247493
>post purely talking about building minis
bitch, that isn’t a blogpost
here’s an example of me blogposting, so you won’t get caught being retarded again.
Just got my armageddon box that I preordered from my LGS the day before, I did it through them because I’m a frequent visitor of their discord, and saw that they were providing discounts to the boxset. I did make my way over, but sadly I missed my exit, and ended up having to take the 6 mile long bridge that leads to another county, and then I had to take it back for another 6 miles, but it was still worth it to get the armageddon box. I of course got myself a soda because I was quite thirsty after all that driving, and picked up my box to which I left, and took my socks and shoes off in order to take a picture in the parking lot with my barefoot (as is my custom).
so far the boxset has looked promising, so many kits that I don’t know what to do with, but they always have a place on my shelf.
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>>98247531
>the state of those feet
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>>98247201
Try wargames that can technically allow for the use of 40k minis.
There’s opr and another two in the op right now.
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rule-let here
What's the part with detachments that says purge the foe, recon assets and such? Is that just a name they give or does it have a meaning?
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Anyone here used army painters speedpaint metallics over a color before? There's a lacquer ice silver I like but I don't feel like buying an airbrush, respirator, and all that stuff and I thought using the silver one over a light blue might give a similar effect, but I can't find anyone using them over anything but black and white.
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>>98247546
I did not notice there were alt rulesets in the OP now, that's cool.
add xenos rampant you cowards
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Mate with xenos
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>>98247548
Those are your force dispositions, or in human words, objectives. Each detachment gives you access to one. There's five dispositions and each one has a "goal". When a game starts, you'll [Observe the Chart] to compare your disposition to your enemy's and figure out your "primary mission", which is how you'll score most of your VP.
While the specifics change, every disposition is going to tie back to a central theme - Purge the Foe is always going to be about killing the enemy, for example. The idea is that you can build an army around defense or mobility or something else and consistently get games where you win by doing that, theoretically allowing for alternate playstyles. The mission matrix is about adding ways to push you to fight the enemy army even when your force disposition's basic outline doesn't do that on its own since a current issue is armies winning by VP races rather than fighting each other.

Yeah, the game's complicated. I'm still figuring out "the basics" myself and suspect I got at least a little bit of that explanation wrong.
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Redpill me on star phantoms
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>>98247485
Some of the pieces fit together too well that I feel the need to glue them together regardless.
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>>98247177
Would heavily coating the glass with metallics actually look good? Would save time painting the interiors
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Why is the Night Lord kill team so popular? Like holy shit, so many people play it.
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>>98247681
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>2026
>high fidelity CAD model sculpting, mold design
>still have weird tangents in models where things like the straps on helmets just meld into the underside of the jaw of the person wearing them

I don't get it.
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>>98247691
Premium jewels of wonder
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>Really like the Undead in Fantasy
>They're spread out across factions in 40k
>Blood Angels are Vampires
>Night Lords have the designs of Vampire Counts
>Necrons are Skeletons
>Death Guard has Poxwalkers which are Zombies
If I wanted to play as Undead in 40k, what the fuck do I choose? It's a 50/50 between Blood Angels or Night Lords.
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>>98247691
limitations of two part moulds anon
same reason why studs on pauldrons and legs turn into teardrops at the curves
you either split models up more and more or you do four part moulds which are much more expensive, I think the baneblade is the only kit james bothers with for a four part
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>>98247688
>Night Lords are Batman
Not anymore
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>>98247700
Death Guard
>>98247681
>Immaculate drip
>Sneaky
>Astartes
>Can fuck with turn order & positioning
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Justify these battles without resorting to "We mistakenly think you're imposters/corrupted by Chaos."
>Sisters vs Custodes
>Grey Knights vs Grey Knights
>Deathwatch vs Deathwatch
>Custodes vs Custodes
>Thousand Sons vs Thousand Sons
>Tau vs non-Farsight Tau
>Tyranids vs GSC
>GSC vs GSC
>Any non-Chaos allied with CSM or Chaos Daemons, especially Grey Knights
>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
>Eldar allied with Necrons
>Any non-Eldar allied with Dark Eldar
>Votann allied with Orks
>Adeptus Mechanicus allied with Votann
>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos
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>>98247465
GIVE MORE MEN OF IRON
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>>98244608
So he doesn’t rob attention away from the new bald lesbian commissar.
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>>98247700
Necrons are technically the closest analogue to Death as Space Tomb Kkngs, and Xenos are the third pillar that isn’t mankind versus Chaos in 40k. I suppose if you’re partial to Space Marines, the Blood Angel’s Death Company are basically ghouls with them losing their sanity and having hallucinations making them believe they are actively avenging their dad. Night Lords are just murder hobos.
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Does anyone else like the basic look Admech, robot guys in red robes, but hate all of their special units? I hate the da Vinci fliers and the robots and the arqubus guys.
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>>98247714
>Tyranids vs GSC
>GSC vs GSC

I don't know why you keep including these, there are legitimate reasons well established in lore for why they happen.

The assimilation of a cult into the invading hive fleet isn't always pretty. What does happen every time is the broodmind that links them all subconsciously is severed when the Patriarch and all Purestrains spawned by the cult integrate with the greater Hive Mind. How the cult responds after that can be varied. Sometimes, yea, they just smile and march into digestion pools. Sometimes they recognize that they were patsies, and try to desperately survive.

GSC vs. GSC is almost as easy. Cults are tied to the fleet that spawned them, the signal they send is intended for a specific fleet and the broodmind that powers it is similarly keyed. Two cults meeting are not going to recognize each other as kin, but likely view each other as charlatans, twisted mockeries of their faith, worshiping a sinister other instead of the true divine children of the void. It's extremely unlikely that two such cults will spawn on a single planet at roughly the same time, but it's also established that cults will propagate as far as their means will allow, meaning it is more possible that a cult which is trying to spread its influence abroad may inadvertently send missions of hybrids and purestrains sequestered aboard normal Imperial trade vessels to a planet that is already host to a different cult.
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>>98247714
>>Sisters vs Custodes
Custodes plan to destroy a relic or holy sote due to esoteric reasons
>>Grey Knights vs Grey Knights
Wargames
>>Deathwatch vs Deathwatch
Wargames
>>Custodes vs Custodes
Wargames
>>Thousand Sons vs Thousand Sons
Warbands with conflicting goals, tzeentch thought it would be funny
>>Tau vs non-Farsight Tau
They saw their god and decided it was time to kill some gwailo
>>Tyranids vs GSC
Wrong hivefleet answered the call, GSC are fending off the false angels
>>GSC vs GSC
Different hivefleets create different cults
>>Any non-Chaos allied with CSM or Chaos Daemons, especially Grey Knights
Never happens
>>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
Never happens
>>Eldar allied with Necrons
You and I both hate humans? Based let's kill these monkeys
>>Any non-Eldar allied with Dark Eldar
If you help us take over this hive city you can have some slaves
>>Votann allied with Orks
I get: mining deed to this whole planet
You get: big dakka
>>Adeptus Mechanicus allied with Votann
Tag team necron looting
>>Deathwatch or Black Templars allied with any xenos
Templars: would never happen
Deathwatch: actually sometimes happens as allies of convenience to deal with a more pressing threat, sometimes the deathwatch get cool xenotech out of it
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>>98247714
All of the vs matches here except for the Tyranids can be easily justified as a dick-measuring contest gone wrong. Tyranid/GSC fights are probably different lineages fighting each other because they're too distant and don't recognize each other as family anymore.
Also, can't a lot of Orks and Dark Eldar be hired as mercenaries in the lore?

>>98247737
For me the AdMech has a lot of great units, but they just have so many godawful ones. I do not think the Electro-priests fit. I do not think that any vehicle larger than the Sydonian Dragoon has even a single redeeming quality. I do not think the Pteraxii are even a little cool. But damnit, Thulia Ghuld just looks so fucking sweet...
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>>98245473
Even if you do that, you can still beat C’Tan by just killing everything else, the more shards they have, the easier it is, but instead people want to throw everything they have at a single C’Tan turn two and roll bad or something, wasting opportunities to take out wraiths or something.
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>tfw keep tinkering with my list to justify not benching a model
every time...
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>>98247700
not sure what's legal in current edition, but the most obvious armies:
>nurgle chaos zombie plague (eye of terror, vraks)
>reboot crons for clean tomb king style undead
>cron flayed one army for bloodborne goopy horror undead

there's also a bunch of "sorta technically undead" in various factions like rubric marines and eldar wraith constructs. the other SM you mention are mostly just cribbing aesthetics and are regular living marines.
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>>98247714
the only really hard ones there are the custodes and GK mirrors, because those factions in-lore are so small that the members would mostly all know eachother (and they couldn't survive the attrition of even 40k sized engagements with any frequency as a faction). those armies are smaller than individual minor marine chapters, so its essentially a company fighting itself.

pre-rewrite crons would have been the hardest because they were literally incapable of independence on any level, but in their modern version where there's the egos of individual leaders at play you can justify them finding (temporary) common purpose or conflict with anybody including other crons.
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>>98247737
yeah a couple guys at my club collect admech and they all proxy 30k models for half the shit in the army

i think its just a general handshake across the community that thats allowed since GW cant be arsed to get the vibe right
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Should I not use Black Legion when trying to paint an eye socket? Should I just use Abbadon Black instead?
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>>98247825
I find regular paint better for the eyes, though using both I think it’s just a matter of preference ultimately ie just use what you think works.
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>>98247764
>>>Deathwatch vs Deathwatch
Happens in the Shadowbreaker novel.
Deathwatch with a Puritan Inquisition clashing against Deathwatch following a radical one.
>>>Space Wolves allied with Thousand Sons
No. It happened in "Ashes of Prospero".
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>>98247714
>Ultramarines vs White Scars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPbHRBlnPGg
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>>98246532
"Close Combat Weapon"

Aim for the head
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How big is Warhammer in Japan really? I keep seeing them posting photos of some big Akihabara thing they do every couple of months and now they're putting kanjis on the bottles and making the app in Japanese too when it was in English only previously.
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>>98247304
Pelager auxilia when
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Reckon its worth getting a character or unit to sit in the backline somewhere that has 12" deep strike denial for this edition?
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random model posting cus I feel like it, goodnight anons.
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>>98248078
Le ebin ironic meme time for an updoot eck dee
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Daily reminder gravis armor makes you T6 and you can get units of it for 100 points, less for characters. Heavy Intercessors are insane and the fact that people turn their noses up at this unit is indicative that something is weird about this game
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>>98248078
Kek, love that shit
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>>98248091
It's probably just more marine armour autism, also lack of games from those shitposters as they dislike the look of gravis and dont care how well it does in an actual game
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>>98244614
>horizon zero dawn
>Destiny
>Halo
Is it just one samefag in this general with consistently shit taste who keeps bringing up terrible games?
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>>98244742
This is an over the top setting full of unnecessary skulls, people also like sex and tits. unless you have some sort of weird sex phobia there's no issue
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>>98245348
SEXOOO
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>>98244740
Viewing imperium as merely fascism is overly simplistic, it's a theocratic technocratic oligarchic monarchistic communistic feudalistic fascist authoritarian society.

If it wasn't fictional it would require its own whole new word to describe it: an authoritarian society where a wide variety of different extremely powerful interest groups hold balancing power in different ways, everyone except the common man. It's like anti-democracy in a way

Orks have always had WW2 German influences with the Stormboyz.
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>>98247714
Deathwatch are Ordo Xenos aren't they? If they get assigned under a radical inquisitor, they have to go along with it do they not?
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>>98248156
Yes.
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>>98248199
How independent are the marines anyway? If the Inquisitor commanding them makes deals w a local Necron Lord for xenotech, they have to fight alongside some Immortals or whatever, do they just grumble under their breath while ignoring Gauss beams coming from their side?
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>>98247714
>Justify these
Because I said so and you can't make me think otherwise.
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>>98248205
I suppose so. Inquisitors are the ultimate authority of the imperium and some of them are known to bend the rules to a point. I think the only people in the imperium with higher authority would be custodes.
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>>98248214
ultimate authority until fragged as soon as no one is looking. it happens all the time if you read 40k inquisition books
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>like deathwatch visually since cool sleeve and watchmasters get guardian spear
>really don't jive with the whole slurry of chapters within
sure i could run everyone as blackshields but then i might as well run custom chapter that has engraved right arms instead of lefts with same "unconventional tactics"
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>>98248216
Exactly
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>>98248214
Inquisitors have only as much authority as they can individually manage through schemes and force of personality
They are not above the High Lords of Terra, just independent from them
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>>98247737
For me it's the other way around. I'm tired of mechadendrite men, I like the wacky da Vinci archaic stuff
I can agree the robots suck though they look too generic
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>>98248214
>>98248216
"You can frag an Inquisitor or ignore their authority if you don't like them" is technically true but people tend to overstate it.

Nobody wants the whole Inquisition up their ass. They have their tentacles through the whole galaxy and a lot of power and clout.
Most citizens of the Imperium are pants-shittingly afraid of the Inqusition.
People aren't fragging an Inquisitor unless they're part of a very powerful organisation who will sanction their actions (see Space Wolves) or if they think they can get away with it scot free (and they're usually so afraid of Inquisition spies that they won't).

Everyone is also usually on the same page as Inquisitors in terms of their goals and know the core goal of the Inquisitors (rooting out heresy and killing chaos and xenos) is usually in their interest, so if they accuse someone in your ranks of heresy, the default behaviour is to go along with the Inquisitor and serve your comrade on a silver platter.

For example, in Accursed Eternity, an Inquisitor stops a fleet of Marines from destroying a Chaos cursed ship so that he can board it, and commandeers a bunch of them to go along with him.
He's an asshole, being secretive about his goals, and they want to ignore him and destroy the ship anyway, but they go along with him because they don't want to piss off the broader Inquisition.
After his actions cause a few of their Marines to be killed, some Marines are actively trying to kill him and have to be held back by the Chaplain because they still really want to stay in the Inquisition's good graces.
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>>98248214
In practice, you can't go up to anyone, flash a badge, and have them listen. Especially not Space Marines. Space Wolves and less compliant ones especially.
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>>98248232
The Inquisition are one of the High Lords of Terra themselves.

>The following nine offices are almost always represented as High Lords:

>The Master of the Adeptus Administratum
>The Representative of the Inquisition
>The Ecclesiarch of the Adeptus Ministorum
>The Fabricator-General of the Adeptus Mechanicus
>The Grand Provost Marshal of the Adeptus Arbites
>The Paternoval Envoy of the Navigators
>The Master of the Astronomican
>The Grand Master of the Officio Assassinorum
>The Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica
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>>98247737
HARD agree, but its better then what GW does on its own.
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>>98247737
I like all of it but the centaur cyborgs
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>>98248251
In practice most Marines will listen to the Inquisition and follow their orders or requests unless they think them uselessly suicidally retarded (they may even follow suicidal orders if they think it's useful to do so) or too heretical.

A chapter of 1000 marines doesn't have much chance against the squillions of humans the Inquisition can bring to bear if provoked.
See what happened to the Celestial Lions when they tried to snitch on the Inquisition to the other High Lords of Terra.
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>>98248258
The representative is more or less their Custodes guy equivalent. The sort of
>Hey we need to know everyone's private council meetings and have veto privilege too.
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>>98248030
I went to the Akihabara GW and it was the whitest place in the city
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>>98248248
The thing about the Inquisition is that it's a self regulating organization. There is no standard for what an Inquisitor can do that is too extreme or too heretical, it is determined on a case by case basis by other Inquisitors, which is where the schemes and charisma come in.
>>98248258
They have a representative on the council but that person isn't the leader of the Inquisition, they are more there to advise and coordinate with the other branches if the Imperium than as a traditional leadership position.
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>>98248270
That doesn't stop especially angry ones from banding together or covertly messing them up. And the Space Wolves are big enough that the Inquisition can't bully them. But the ultimate cannot bully are the Custodes. Their job is too important that almost nothing the Inquisition can say will take priority.
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>tfw no custodes has ever said ad mortem inimicus
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How do Inquisitors interact with Rogue Traders? Aren't they a special kind of independent?
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>>98248091
Why bother with T6 when for the same cost or a bit more you can get T8/9/10 vehicles?

Why use infantry at all?
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>>98248272
What do you base that on? I'm going by Lexicanum and the representative is listed as a High Lord.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Senatorum_Imperialis
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>>98248301
The representative is a high lord but not the same big boss over everyone most others are. Most of the high lords are leaders among the community and not just the equivalent to Anakin on the Jedi Council because Palpatine wanted one.
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>>98248030
It's been expanding a lot, they open a new store in Japan every month or two and it's been contributing to the expansion because stores have free tables that anyone can play on, which is very important in a country where people don't have space at home and don't invite people over to their houses

If you look at the financial reports GW has been raking in tons from Japan to the point that it's now their biggest market after the US (which has 10x the population). So no shit they're putting JP text on the paint bottles.
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>>98248301
Read the page about the Inquisitorial Representative
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>>98248289
Shit Ubislop game with shit combat and ugly ahistorical designs for retards

Possibly the worst melee combat game ever made, 1v1s are literally a solved game
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>tfw half of my lgs will be playing orks this edition

What's a hard counter to T5, lethal hits?
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>>98248303
Sauce? Again seems to conflict with the wording of that article which lists them as High Lords
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>>98248289
I kneel before the post apocalyptic setting of the best Star Wars fighting game you just posted.
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>>98248300
>>98248091
The problem w T6 is, most infantry weapons are T4 or below. So those will all wound on 5+s anyway whether it's T5 or T6. It's S10 vs 12 for 2+ to wound so the advantage isn't big vs AT either.
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>>98248291
Rogue Traders normally listen regardless of jurisdiction due to how powerful Inquisitors are. A number of Inquisitors have Rogue Traders occasionally work for them or disguise themselves as Rogue Traders when going incognito.
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>>98248313
Heavy Bolter spam. Or Heavy Flamers.
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>>98248310
I'm not seeing what you're talking about here, in fact:
>these individuals are often referred to as the Inquisitor Lord Terran
Seems to indicate they have the same status as other Lords
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>>98248319
Does it matter how far from Terra they are? Like, other side of the rift, Segmentum Obscurus, super Eastern Fringe area.
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>>98248289
I'm still trying to learn how to counter Juren.
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>>98248328
what he is saying, is that the Inquisitorium High Lord of Terra is not "The Big Boss of the Inquisitorium"
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>>98248310
>>98248328
Also
>Furthermore, whilst their attendance is always appreciated, the position in the chambers of the Senatorum Imperialis is often left vacant with their vote being conferred by missive,
So they have voting power
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>>98248328
they have a vote equal to the others, the point is that they are not the leader of the organization they represent so their role on the council is different
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>>98248329
Flashing an Inquisitor badge is normally enough to get people working for you. Unless you're coordinated like genestealer level mind-links, nobody knows who would agree to a plan to frag them or dispose of them without anyone else knowing. There's local scholas and Inquisitor training areas that are far from Terra.
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>always told that you should buy and paint the models you think are coolest regardless of rules
>take this advice to heart
>the procession of saint Katherine is iconic artwork
>there's a novel with it as the cover, an mtg card, and it's featured in the rogue trader videogame
>the model is a super cool centerpiece with lots of detail
>buy it, paint it up to above average level
>finally check the rules for it
>it's some 245 point model that doesn't do shit, has no guns, is t3, moves 6" and cannot even embark in a transport
I feel like I got bamboozled. Oh well, it will always look good on my shelf.

idk why gw would make an awesome, beautiful, and most importantly expensive centerpiece model shit.
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>>98248331
I see what you mean, my bad. This was a dual argument as one anon was saying that, but the other anon said they had no voting power, only veto
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>>98248313
Anything s5+, -1 ap, damage 2
As an ork player I know I'll have a bad time when seeing a lot of high toughness elites, or very cagey play from a shooty army
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>>98248340
It has been mega busted just a couple years ago and comes in and out of competitive viability fairly frequently with edition and rules changes. Now you will have a nice one ready when it gets buffed again in 11th Edition by some new Detachment or another change to the faith dice mechanic Army rule.
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>>98248341
The power to vote against is enough veto power. The point of the role is so the High Lords can't just universally rule to assfuck the Inquisition for fun without them knowing. There are times multiple Inquisitors shared the role of Representative too. It's safe to say the Inquisition aren't the most popular organization and their ability to step on others' toes is more than enough reason if they didn't have a High Lord role then the other High Lords might so actions undermining their authority.
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>>98248340
So they can buff it to the stratosphere in a future codex update and force SoB players to buy it.
Then once they've maxxed sales, they will nerf it to shit again and buff something else to force people to buy that.

It's called "cyclical balancing" and it's also common in video games where you can pay money for weapons or characters. Force everyone to buy the latest OP thing, make a million sales, then nerf it and buff something else. League of Legends as one good example.

I am definitely not excusing this behaviour but you do have options:
>Email GW that it's shit and needs a buff. They may actually do it in a year or so; not all cyclical balance is premeditated, sometimes it's accidental
>Buy other viable models instead, but buy them used or third party so you aren't giving GW money for a raw deal
>House-rule a buff to St. K that you agree upon beforehand with a friendly casual player, so you can get her to the table
>Simply wait a few years for a buff which may or may not arrive
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While there's no official on-paper ranks among the High Lords, there's many informal ones like Master of Forge being able to threaten cutting supplies or Ecclesiarch able to call you a heretic. But informally, the Custodes Captain-General is the one nobody fucks with. An Inquisitor going against them is likely to be shot by their own allies. The Custodes job is too important that even if they weren't giant super soldiers that could kill everyone else in the room at the drop of a hat, nobody would fuck with them. In the odd chance everyone had the death wish to team up against the Captain-General, I'm betting it's more likely the Imperium will replace all the newly removed other High Lords than remove the Captain-General.
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>>98248350
I think you're underestimating the Inqusition's level of unspoken clout
>Alternatively, if the Inquisition feels that an organisation is shirking from its duty, then they can apply the appropriate pressure on the relevant High Lord, thus turning an organisational issue into one of personal confidence. Such actions provide a Representative with an unparalleled level of leverage, as they have not attained their position by personal ambition or desire, which means they risk nothing personal in these dealings with the other High Lords. However, the High Lords themselves are often well aware that their subordinates view their positions with envy and ambition, which often means that they must take active steps to protect their power. Thus, the merest hint of the Inquisition's displeasure can serve as a catalyst for the respective High Lord being removed from their office and represented by another member from their ranks.
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>>98248340
+movement +charge auras are extremely strong
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>>98248340
>always told that you should buy and paint the models you think are coolest regardless of rules
>take this advice to heart
You didn't follow this advice though. You got over halfway there, then at the part where you're supposed to not care about meta and optimisation and play with the model you like anyway you got cold feet, decided the stats for a game you've barely played look bad, and threw a hissy fit. Apologise to your beautiful model, now, and swear you'll play in good sport and not meta chase
>mtg card
You might be too far gone

>>98248352
Room temp iq post
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>>98248374
Post your IQ test. Mine is 69 billion.
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>interested in getting the 1 step box from pro acryl
>try buying directly from the site as they havent been released in this country yet
>tfw 115 AUD shipping

The fucking state of it
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>>98248344
>new Eradicators w Heavy Bolters
well played, GW
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>>98248360
They play their power plays all the time. The Inquisition isn't just trained to pressure Planetary Governors into submission but also navigate these. Without them, the High Lords still border on Skaven in biting each other and squabbling. Vicious political infighting, self-interest, and bureaucratic stalemates are the name of the game. You could just as easily piss off someone controlling all the supply lines and thus get everyone against you on the threat of reducing their supplies. Which makes the Inquisition just a 5 year rotated guy who doesn't have as much to lose ruining another High Lord's plot unless said High Lord still retains the authority to dick them after getting their seat given to someone else. They didn't claw and bite for the seat and they know they'll be gone soon.
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is it true that all skitarii get gangraped before they get their augmentations?
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>>98248381
Getting anything shipped here at the moment is fucked m8, even Milliput has long lead times.
My LGS said anything paint related that isn't manufactured domestically will be months away. I sure love having all our industry in the hands of China
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How do you stop someone from charging your units if you a melee army? Just put something shit in front of it and screen out the charges?
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These naked motherfuckers show up at your council meeting. What do you do?
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>>98248382
redeemers and infernus
time for salamanders baby
salamanders codex in 11th
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>>98248380
I'm the world's first trillionaire iq, faget. Anyway
>le companies r evuulll and plotting nerfs to milk us!
Company releases a new thing, they get feedback. They adjust new thing according to feedback as best they can, sometimes it's a buff, other times nerf. Retards like you only remember the nerfs because of negative bias and cook up this whole anti-consumer plot
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>>98248392
It's highly contextual, do you have a specific example?
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>>98248397
>be high lord
>want to be snu-snued
>and the current captain general is male
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Custodes shouldn't be an army but should be a few units in Imperial Agents. Prove me wrong.
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>>98248407
>>le companies r evuulll and plotting nerfs to milk us!
No, I don't think anyone up top is explicitly saying that, but I do truly believe that in the higher echelons of GW, someone is saying "Don't worry too hard about making it perfectly balanced, we sell more models that way".

And/or "yes, stack shitloads of stats on Titus and Robotue Guilliman, make them really strong so people want to buy them, we want to move volume of models."

I work at a large company and have heard conversations where things obviously not in the best interest of the consumer were done casually to make a bit more margin, e.g. "put more water in it, we make more money that way".
I think it's naive to think GW isn't similar and is just leaving free money on the table. Or maybe you just lack life experience with people.
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>>98248451
They already are just 4 unit kits, they just need to be moved in agents

grey knights too
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Trying to paint Necron blades following this tutorial
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q2t4ZRyZhWk
I think I fucked up, should prolly thin the paint more
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In my headcanon, a good number of power armored super soldiers lost their potty training by being in armor that recycles their waste so often. Especially CSM.
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>>98248489
I apologize for shilling a sloptuber but Hidalgo has a really good tutorial for Necron blades, you could check that out
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>>98248464
>I do truly believe that in the higher echelons of GW, someone is saying "Don't worry too hard about making it perfectly balanced, we sell more models that way"
This is why you're room temp iq. Nobody at the higher levels care about the game balance, they're talking real, actual business shit. Balancing is under the purview of the design shmucks and not the suits who've never even played a game in their life, whose hobbies are smoking cigars and fine whiskies.
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>>98248495
Also methinks overpowered = sells more all else held constant thus imbalance = sales.
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>>98248494
Skimming through it it looks like exactly what I needed rn. Thanks anon.
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>>98248468
Nah, Grey Knights are getting completely reinvented this edition.
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>>98248491
I remember the last time an anon posted that idea, three different anons wrote their own space marine shitting himself greentext
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>>98248543
idgi
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I don't mind that Forgefather's Seekers and Firestorm Assault Force are similar but strictly better than Bringers of Flame. I understand the marines always need the best.

But I just now noticed that both of these strictly better detachments are also 2DP, while Bringers is 3DP. Just kind of funny.
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>>98248464
>>98248495
>Don't worry too hard about making it perfectly balanced, we sell more models that way
this isn't conspiracy, it's just a blatantly obvious thing.
GWs 10 editions into this game and has been working on it since the 80s. in terms of playtest data and design experience they've got two orders of magnitude on any other game designer ever. even the most incompetent dipshits on the planet would have a well balanced game by now if that was anywhere on the list of goals.

they swing the balance pendulum hard because it works. they've got this shit down to a science at this point. launches sell models, new editions sell models, shaking shit up sells models. so those are the things they do. the rules are just a form of advertising.
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>>98248535
And they will still have a miserably small roster that cannot truly cover all bases of an army and will make far more sense as attachments to other imperial armies, just like custodes.

Agents.
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>>98248495
You're throwing around IQ so much it's starting to sound like projection for your own insecurities.
>Nobody at the higher levels care about the game balance, they're talking real, actual business shit
Motherfucker, selling models IS their business, and an imbalanced game which forces compfags to drop their weak army and pick up a strong one one quarter, and then buy another army the next quarter, clearly sells more models than a stable balanced game.
There is no way you can be in the tabletop business for years (the current CEO Kevin Rountree has been in GW for 18 years) and not notice this obvious truism.
Do you think any businessman is going to put the consideration of nerds having a fun time over his KPIs? Of course not.
>Balancing is under the purview of the design shmucks and not the suits who've never even played a game in their life
You've clearly never been in a large business in your life.
Nearly all workers in a publicly traded company have KPIs to meet, and if they don't, their bosses do.
Yes, even for creative and R&D roles.

https://business.adobe.com/au/blog/basics/kpis-for-creative-teams

Here's how it works:
>The board of directors says to the manager of the rules design team to "do shit that sells models" and sets KPIs for the design department.
>The manager of the rules design team then has goals for his team to meet and since his own KPIs are tied to theirs (and his bonuses), he is actively incentivized to make the design team do things he thinks will sell models.
>The design team does what their boss says so they don't get fired. If he says to make a new unit powercreeped to sell models, they're going to fucking comply
>If at any point the company seems to be underperforming, it's the job of the board of directors to apply pressure on every department to see where they can reduce capital expenditure or make more money off their existing assets

Which means doing shit like bringing out Primaris and squatting everyone's Marines.
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>>98248543
Kek
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>>98248504
Yeah its a pretty solid video, it helped me a lot when I was painting these guys.
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>>98248577
In terms of faction balance yeah, but they keep fucking up the most basic things. For example, fight first is actively detrimental now, it's purely detrimental now unless you gotcha your opponent with it.
They wanted the cover to be simpler and make fast rolling the only way to go but they wrote cover rules to work per attacking model so you still need to micromanage shit.
You're legally not allowed to deploy fliers with bases bigger 6" etc.
That's on top of a myriad individual fuck ups like Sanguinor not being allowed to move in your turn after he heroics from reserves because you're "not allowed to move until the next charge phase if you ingressed", making him completely unplayable etc.

General playerbase catches shit like that immediately and yet GW had a team working on this edition for months and yet they keep fucking it up.
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>>98247475
That would be a weird story
>DAoT criminal empire hides all their drugs in one planet.
>So much blue stuff it looks like an actual ocean.
>Cybernetic Revolt and the Old Night happens, the planet is forgotten
>Millennia later, the Imperium finds the planet
What would the imperium's reaction be to this?



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