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>Previously
>>98232280

>TQ
What is your favorite wizard?
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>>98247234
>TQ
Whomst else
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>>98247263
His OG art is really fucking cool
Like most of the Ravnica block
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>Todd GOATwood
Picrel still bothers me to this day.
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>>98247234
I just can't stomach 6/7 products a year...
I wanna go back.
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>>98247234
>TQ
I haven't given up on him even after the bans, I'm positive there's some configuration of the deck that's at least tier 3 in vintage
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Im gonna post this one too because it has epic flavor text can anyone read it?
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>>98247440
Tilt your head.
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>TQ
This is my favorite wizard because it looks just like me!
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>>98247436
Why do you want to play this card
Even if it wasn't cancer it's still not even fun to play
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>>98247477
>Why do you want to play this card
it's broken and there isn't anything quite like it
>Even if it wasn't cancer it's still not even fun to play
I disagree, drawing a bunch of cards for free is quite enjoyable to me
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TQ
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Never noticed Nin the Pain artist had massive titties
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>>98247511
Hell yeah she does.
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>TQ
There are alot of cool wizards. Honorable mentions to Bob, Magus of the Moon, Clique, Qasali Pridemage, Delver, Snapcaster, Disciple of Bolas, Boros Reckoner
>>98247499
>there isn't anything quite like it
Cephalid Illusionist
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>>98247511
Proofs?
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>>98247563
>Cephalid Illusionist
it's not the same, illusionist only application is being a combo piece, nobody builds a deck where they mill 3 a couple of times for value, the most fun part of playing nadu is when the game doesn't end and you get to go up +3 cards every turn it doesn't get dealt with
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>>98247499
>bro I LOOOOOOOOOOVE taking a 15 minute turn where I do nothing but jerk myself off
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I went to a Marvel prerelease. It was very bland in terms of gameplay.
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how is this card racist?
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>>98247234
>TQ
Did you know she's a fucking wizard? I didn't until someone mentioned it to me yesterday
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>>98247454
Ziv elnoow? !?
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>>98247620
Its jewish schizos claiming every negative stereotype is literally them while they eat your children.
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>>98247620
Americans think Gypsy is a slur for some reason
I'm American I genuinely don't get it either
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>>98247620
The cultural left retards that also says that retard is a slur.
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Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home...
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>>98247748
why the fuck is this bad too?
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BROS BUT MARO TOLD ME UNIVERSES BEYOND SELLS MORE THAN UNIVERSES WITHIN!!!!!

SURELY MARK WOULDN'T LIE!!!
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>98247748
Stay in Brazil.
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>>98247831
Kinda sad how big Lorywn Eclipsed was as a set but had very little impact on the viable card pools of pretty much every format.
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>>98247846
Damn. That's a lot of reprint equity. Can't wait for the Gut Shot reprint in a Commander precon featuring art of an epic marvel character punching Red Skull (in the gut LMAO).
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>>98247234
PIC:I only have a clue about what this shit does because of ancestral visions reference
>T.Q.
IDK Snapcaster, Ertai (both of the canon ones) or Naban (the copy triggered ability from wizards) are contenders for it.
>>98247296
Why?
>>98247276
>>98247440
The only bad thing about the flavor text is that "Z->" is retarded as a term on a math formula. "(Z)^90 i V " would have made a bit more sense for a math formula.
(but yeah, the flavor text was cool back then and is still cool now)
>>98247620
Somehow you can't call Gypsies for their heritage name "Gypsies".
This comes from the people behind DEI shit, so it is also retarded.
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>>98247831
I'm surprised Marvel and ATLA did so well even sucking so much ass as themes for whole sets. Still i want to see how longer can Hasbro keep this shit going.
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>>98247973
I'll probably keep updating the chart until any single UB set actually outsells the worst-selling UW set.

At which point, I will immediately pivot to gaslighting everyone about it ever having existed.
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>>98248001
didn't FF make 270 brazillion dollars and singlehandedly save mtg, wotc, hasbro, and the entire us economy tho?
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>>98248008
Yes. It was funny when they were pretening Mahvel going to be "bigger" than FF after the spiderman flop
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>>98248008
>didn't FF make 270 brazillion dollars and singlehandedly save mtg, wotc, hasbro, and the entire us economy tho?
I would love to have included FF but the public data doesn't go back far enough, for me to have caught it by the time I made THE CHART.
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>>98247846
Wtf
I have like 5 Gut Shots I got out of a discount rare bin for 20 cents each a few years ago.
Got excited til I realized they were like a buck each.
What made them shoot up in price?
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Not sure if i invented a new format or i'm late to the party, but i've been having fun with auction cube.
Everyone gets 100 points and needs to bid for cards that get revealed one at a time. Commons are initial price 1, uncs 3, rares 5. Auction ends when everyone runs out of points to spend and you build your deck out of whatever you bought.
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>>98248246
bro you can't buy uncs anymore, it's not 1794
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>>98247620
I think I'm suffering from Mandela effect
but I could swear on my life that WotC printed a new card with exactly the same ability in one of the recent sets (maybe one of the indigenous "not indigenous" people from Cowboy land or something)
but now I'm confused
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>>98247846
WotC killed the game
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I've nothing to say, I just think Al the Sphinx looks funny.
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>>98247234
>TQ
Best wizard?
https://scryfall.com/card/plst/DDN-42/arcanis-the-omnipotent
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>>98247620
White American women who have never seen a gypsy in their life got themselves convinced that gypsy was a racist slur.
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>>98247950
>Why?
The full art shows that she's about to stab the fool bothering her.
On the card it's cut and it looks like they're both the legendary creature, buddies, close friends, it just kills the original vibe.
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>>98248539
He might be the ugliest creature in the game and there is competition.
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>>98248539
Tezaret is the real funny one
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>>98247620
based racist wotc excluding gypsies from the game
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>>98247234
>TQ
She's slow but I think she's neat anyways
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>>98248888
A light novel heroine stuck in a trading card game.
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I will never forget them for putting 10/10 art on 3/10 card.
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>>98248918
If she put shoes on, would she die?
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>>98248926
It would be extremely turn off
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>>98247620
The serious answer is: it's a reference to a real world ethnicity, which just like the card Crusade was deemed unacceptable in a game that isn't expected to deal with such things.
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>>98247440
If you rotate Z–> by 90 degrees you get NIV. Similarly if gou rotate the second part and squint you'll get MIZZEt. Together it's meant to say Niv-Mizzet is the one (= 1).
>>98247234
>TQ
The wizard to end all other wizards.
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>>98247234
I like this one. Its other printing is nice too.
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>>98249160
Shit, forgot the image, it's the dumb captcha's fault
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>>98249167>>98247234

I also like this one.
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Come on now.
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So im retarded and spent $90 on a pauper deck but there are 0 people who play it at either one of my nearby LGSes out of like 100.

I suppose I should've done my research first but I grossly underestimated the extent to which commander has completely cannibalized the game. Cedh is overwhelmingly the most popular competitive format which is grim as fuck and the only other alive format is standard (yeah im not touching that shit lol). And theres only like 4 dudes left that play modern. Shits depressing
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>>98248926
Dunno, she has boots on in Heartless Summoning...
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>>98249290
Not boots. Buckled legwarmers.
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>>98249150
>Together it's meant to say Niv-Mizzet is the one (= 1).
I remember reading at the time of release that the 1 was both his ego gimmick but also the 1 card = 1 damage.
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>>98249286
Just keep it in case one day you find someone who has a pauper deck, too.
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>>98249150
>Niv-Mizzet is the one
No it's becuse tapping Niv Mizzet = 1 damage
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>>98249384
>>98249150
>>98249371
Yeah reddit we know you just love le epic love science flavor text that only rick and morty watchers can understand
>>98247440
based. retards didn't even notice you were making fun of them lmao.
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>>98249286
What deck?

I'm blessed btw to have a store that consistently fires pauper. This week we beat out modern lol
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>>98249401
>t. Didn't know it
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>>98249379
>>98249500
i made dimir faeries, and got some extra cards too in case i wanna swap out the black stuff for mono blue
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>>98247263
>>98247276
>>98247440
So when he clones himself and has sex with his clone, is it gay sex or masturbation?
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>>98249535
Yes.
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Never played Pauper, what happens to a card that was printed in multiple rarities, including common?
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>>98249545
then it's legal in pauper
pauper doesn't care if you have multiple rarities, as long as you have a common one, the card is legal
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>>98249593
Does this ever get abused? Like someone that clearly doesn't have the power level of a common card, but was printed in common once back in 1970?
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>>98249598
https://scryfall.com/search?q=banned%3Apauper&order=released&dir=asc&unique=prints
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>>98249603
>Daze is a common
What the fuck
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This Marvel set is an absolute garbage holy shit.
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>>98249535
Its a dopplegangbang
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I got scammed by a frenchman.
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>>98249659
deserved.
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>>98249659
Bulgarian for me.
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>>98249659
Cardmarket? They very easily give you vouchers when something goes wrong.
You should also always use Paypal because compared to the average bank they will always side with you and refund you if shit goes south.
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>>98249598
What do you think happens when a problem card damages a format anon?
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>>98249598
>Does this ever get abused?
I mean, it depends what you mean by that, the format is over a decade old at this point, the first thing people did was look for powerful cards that had a common printing so they could build around them, it's basically the foundation of the format.
What happens is that sometimes a powerful card that doesn't have a common printing, gets one, then people start trying to figure out how to best use it in the context of the format, and sometimes it ends up being banned because of how good it is.
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>>98249659
not only have I never gotten scammed but sometimes I have even recieved a more expensive version of a card I ordered
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>>98249603
>fucking trigger warnings for random trahs cards
Absolute state
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>>98250153
They are racist cards though lmao they removed them from gatherer and Invoke Prejudice was number 1488 lol. Lmao.
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Fuckin love harold mcneill
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>>98250242
lol wut
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>set features adventures as a set mechanic
>set is pretty cool in general
Every time. It just makes things better.
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>>98250312
>Flying lizard
>Visibly homosexual
Every time
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>>98250312
Fucking power creep, look at all this value
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>>98250321
>do nothing turn 3 and 4
Wow busted card
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>>98250221
>>98250287
Hes the artist that drew invoke prejudice and made the gatherer number 1488 lol hes a nazi.
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just dropping by to say ub should be an anime only property. no westernslop.
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it begins
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>>98250427
Why?
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>>98250444
opponent should've played around it
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>>98250446
Because Final Fantasy and Avatar were good, TMNT spiderman and Marvel are bad.
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>>98250452
I cast Meltdown for R
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>>98250457
Was Lotr good?
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>>98250476
i scoop, gg
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>>98250482
no, because the tolkien estate is retarded and okayed aragorn and everyone from rohan being black.
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>>98247234
>What is your favorite wizard?
I beat my brother with this card so many times we had to ban bant in our house
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>>98250484
Nah it's Sorcery speed so probably doesn't help much.
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>>98250508
Lol
is this guy part of a cycle?
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There is a Premodern paper event in a month not far from here, I wonder how many people will come.
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>>98250573
Dunno, how many people play magic in nebraska?
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>>98250598
Almost everyone
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>>98250573
If it's more than 1, that's good enough to play Magic :)
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>>98250657
True :)
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>>98250550
yeah
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>>98250665
They're pretty solid, I'm guessing they'd do alright in le Premodern.
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>>98250665
>>98250550
and they retain the color specific ability across the cycle
legit the coolest cycle in the game
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>>98250677
this lad is /fa/ as fuck
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>>98250675
no, that format is far too fast and frankly gay for something as cool and fun as the master cycle
I really tried to like premodern but I found it was a very blue dominated format in an unfun way
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>>98250689
>a very blue dominated format in an unfun way
So kinda like every format?
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>>98250476
Defense grid, please pay 3 more
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>>98250707
it's a sorcery ya dingus
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>>98250707
Sorcery, bro
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>>98250694
The best eras of modern were not blue dominated.
This counts as my daily
>fuck modern horizons
post
But more specifically premodern is blue dominated in an UNFUN way. In that free counterspells are so far ahead of basically any tool other colors get that alternatives are few and far between. Swords to Plowshares, Orim's chant and early discard being really the only solutions I came across all while offering card pools that still didn't really compete with blue doing blue stuff.
I feel sorry for anyone who honestly thinks aggro is a viable solution in that format
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>>98250729
Thanks for the headsup broski
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>>98250457
You realize Avatar is a western property right? Everybody involved in its production was American.
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>>98250752
>chilean sea-bass
jej
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i'm seeing people playing the new cards on arena and i just wanted to say how shitty is seeing hulk or galactus alongside planeswalkers and bloomburrow cute animals... is hideous
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>>98250912
Yeah, no shit
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>>98250912
Yes I agree the game is way cooler when Mighty Mouse is stronger than a zombie vampire and an eldritch god dies to getting blocked by 16 squ- oh wait this is literally Marvel design that WotC copied.
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>>98250912
games workshop was right about kitbashing
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>>98250912
What? You don't like TACOOOOS? And Gamma?
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What's your creature type?
I'm an Epic Gamma Gamer.
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>>98250982
I think Bloomburrow was a perfectly serviceable setting, one of the best ones in recent years (which isn't saying much but come on)
The art, all the cute fucking animals working together to kill each other, the mechanics and the legendaries were all on point: limited admittedly kinda sucked but it wasn't Capenna-tier at least
I believe there's also precedents for another tiny plane out there, Segovia I think it's called?
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>>98251117
>one of the best ones in recent years
It literally hd o black border competition. Al that came out was un-sets about Space Balleron,b ut cowboy detective in a car and Modern Rotation:Commander Edition
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Anti UBfags, how does it feel to know that Final Fantasy is the best designed set in like a decade?
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>>98251117
>the mechanics and the legendaries were all on point

Ah yes, Bloomburrow's mechanics...
>Vomit and spew diarrhea all over every format
>Declare the mechanics were good because le heckin epic cute furry shit
Fuck off. BLB was legitimately one of the worst sets of all time. Other than IKO, it is the set that did by far the most damage to the game of all mainline sets.
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Fucking seriously. The unholy trinity of ruining MTG's gameplay is IKO, BLB and DSK.
How can ANYONE think BLB was a good set, it completely fucking shat on the quality of every format where its cards made an impact.
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>>98251144
That's true, I hadn't realized how far back I'd have to dig to find another new solid plane
EOE wasn't super awful, I liked some of the mechanics and it wasn't as out there as Wacky Races or Cluedo

>>98251215
I know we're all pretending to be retarded newfags, but you really can't say these kinds of things
Even a fucking toddler knows that Urza's block almost killed the game, it was an absolute shitshow in every way possible but you were probably too busy suckling your mommy's tiddies to care; it consequently completely ruined Masques too
Mirrodin was also really really really really questionable
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>>98251241
Oh and I forgot to mention Kamigawa too, duh
Champions had a fun limited environment at least but Betrayers (and especially Saviors) was REALLY rough, the world would have been a much better place had they not released those two.
And I know there's already hordes of zoomers absolutely frothing at their mouths, angrily typing that I should never ever disrespect their heckin epicerino Japaneserino set because it was hecking sovl or whatever; but the block was very poorly received for a reason, and no amount of fox waifus can save it
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>>98251241
>I know we're all pretending to be retarded newfags, but you really can't say these kinds of things
Yes, I fucking can. Here, watch me retard:

Every single format where a card from BLB is present, the presence of that card makes the format's gameplay worse.
No card from BLB present in any format improves the quality of that format.

This is BAD DESIGN. Fuck off with your grandpa shit, retard. Nothing of the past comes even close to comparing with how much of a miserable, soul-draining slog through a swamp of shit the worst of nuMagic makes the game.
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>>98251179
What memorable thing has it even done except making Saga Creatures (a space arguable already pioneered by Urza's Saga enchantment land)
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>>98251272
>stormchaser's talent
kino
>artist's talent
kino
>emberheart challenger
KINO!!!!!
>ygra
kinda gay you're right
You should have posted the black snake (it's kino of the highest order)
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>>98251179
>>98251235
Pigs you need to try a little harder to make real Magic enjoyers like UB-slop.
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>>98251259
>"Urza's block was worse than nuMagic!"
No. Hell no. At least with Urza's the game ended before you had to suffer.
It's far worse now. Now you have to sit there, watching while your retard opponent fumbles tracking his Landfall/Prowess triggers for 20 minutes. It was insane and explosive before, but now it's just god damned fucking miserable. MTG has never been worse with the exception of the Companions era.
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>>98251291
>Muh kino! Muh kino! Muh kino!
Yes, yes, you're a furfag whose arousal upon seeing animals is so great that it blinds you to bad design. That's a you problem. The cards are shit.
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>>98251274
Waifus
Saga creatures were also done in Neo Kamigawa and ONE, but FF did develop the concept in new and interesting directions
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>>98251308
>a playable heroic card
>cool red enchantment that provides card selection and cost reduction
>1/1 prowess that eventually recurs a card or becomes a storm payoff
Damn, sorry to say but these are all KINO of the highest order
Way cooler than uh... spaceships or whatever
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>>98251312
>Saga creatures were also done in Neo Kamigawa
No, it had Sagas that flipped into regualr creatures. FF has creatures that died in 3 turns.
>Waifus
Lol. Art isn't a factor in game design. Would you like playing any of those cards if they all deicted fat black women?
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>>98251272
>Nothing of the past comes even close to comparing with how much of a miserable, soul-draining slog through a swamp of shit the worst of nuMagic makes the game.
I can see it clearly now, you're a child. A retarded one, but still a child. You never played any format nor limited before 2017ish, and it shows.
Mirrodin introduced cards that were so stupidly overpowered they warped formats forever, and Urza's Block was O B J E C T I V E L Y a pile of shit, I don't even know where to start with choosing a picrel
There was also stuff like Cold Snap limited or Chronicles or Homelands, but I have no time to teach you

>>98251298
I agree that nu-MTG is dogshit, don't get me wrong
I take issue with the statement "Bloomburrow has done more damage to MTG than any other set in its history", because that's just plain retardation and/or zoomer ignorance
Bloomburrow is not a good set, it's mildly charming but ultimately it falls flat, and it's not even close to the worst set in history
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>>98251340
>Sagas that flipped into regualr creatures
So they were... saga creatures?!
Same with ONE
>Art isn't a factor in game design. Would you like playing any of those cards if they all deicted fat black women?
Eh? If the art makes them playable, that's good game design, because the game components are designed in an appealing way
In addition, for a whole bunch of cards they basically went "this is a waifu, so we have to really make sure it's a well designed card" and they did (except for Lulu who suffers for being a busty woman in anno domini whenever FF came out)
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>>98251272
>soul-draining slog through a swamp of shit the worst of nuMagic makes the game.
Masques bloc
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>>98251346
>I can see it clearly now, you're a child.
I have been playing since Fallen Empires.

>>98251346
>"Bloomburrow has done more damage to MTG than any other set in its history",
Other than IKO.
Which is factually correct. It did. Everybody declaring BLB, destroyer of gameplay quality, was a great set meant WotC did not correct course after how ruinous it was to the game.
All prior great failures resulted in lessons learned. BLB resulted in them doubling down and committing to making things even more shit. I am exactly corret: It did maximal damage to the game.
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>>98251367
This, so much this
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>>98251357
>So they were... saga creatures?!
Would you call Withengar Unbound and equipmnt creature? Or even an artifact creature?
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>>98251235
vivi hands typed this post
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>>98251370
>BLB resulted in them doubling down and committing to making things even more shit. I am exactly corret: It did maximal damage to the game.
What did maximal damage to the game was mister Hasbro wanting to buy his 64th yacht for the year, which resulted in Standard being whored out and a cascade of poorly thought-out generic sets flooding the format with shit
BLB was one of the many turds in the stream, but I'll always like it a tad bit more than the others since at least it doesn't have ninja turtles or capeshit
Talking about mechanics is mostly irrelevant at this point, sets are designed so many years prior their actual release, we don't even know what the fuck R&D is even doing (and they don't know either), and there's so much shit that needs to be made, the days of well-thought out mechanics are long gone
And yet it'll never be as damaging as Urza's block
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ITT: Retards that didn't play the game before 2018 crying that the game is ruined by the same shit WotC has been doing since the start of the game.
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>>98251396
Actually current dev time is stupidly short, hance why everything is untested and full of errors nowdays
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>>98250444
>>98250452
So Vintage is pozzed too now, huh. Would it kill them to release lore friendly versions of "include or dont bother playing" cards?
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>>98251396
>What did maximal damage to the game was mister Hasbro wanting to buy his 64th yacht for the year,
We're talking about set design. Meta-contextual affairs are a separate discussion, don't use them to distract from the point.
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>>98251340
>art isn't a factor in game design
Then why don't all the games with fat black women sell while the ones with attractive women do?
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>>98251438
Cause people are buying collector art not the game. Art Direction isn't Game Design
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>>98251424
Set design is directly tied to meta-contextual affairs you fuck. Sets being subpar is a direct consequence of the environment in which these sets come out, and you directly mentioned "BLB resulted in them doubling down" which is blatantly false: their doubling down on poor design choices is because of the current environment, not because of the supposedly amazing reception BLB got
BLB is an ok set, and Magic is going to shit for far different reasons: concede this and we can be friends again

>>98251409
I have no clue how long it takes them to get a set done nowadays, without considering the sheer amount of extra stuff they have to pump out between Jumpstarts and Slopmanders and all that jazz
Capeshit has 450 cards, surely it must've taken them a couple-ish of years? S-Surely?
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Odds I remove cancer cards from my hashaton deck
Evens I leave them in and let my friends bitch about it
Dubs I add even more cancer
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>>98251448
>Set design is directly tied to meta-contextual affairs you fuck
We're not talking about the context though.
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>>98251452
Concede that last line, anon
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>somebody mentions ub
>autists bite the bait and sperg out
every single time
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>>98251450
Bye bye jin, my son...
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>>98251455
I don't engage with non sequitur.
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>>98250756
He cute
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>most expensive Portal card is a chinese alt art for a random ass turtle
Didn't know hurting turtles was some kind of taboo over there
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>>98251463
Maybe people just don't like UB? Outside of Commander players obviously
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>>98251379
>Would you call Withengar Unbound and equipmnt creature
Yeah, he's an equipment that's a creature
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>>98251471
0 is even retard
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>>98251500
>0 is even
American education, everyone.
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>>98251486
Mad lad
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>>98251507
What happens if you divide 98251450 by 2? Do you get an integer? Do you?
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>>98251489
So UB haters have the Magic equivalent of TDS?
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>>98250752
>>98250756
chili and sea bass
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>>98251486
or maybe they just don't like africans very much
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>>98247234
Name a set that's worse than Spider-Man. I honestly can not fathom a set worse. Even the early nonsense sets feel like they at the very least have more soul. The current marvel set makes me realize how terrible Spider-Man was.
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>>98251500
Oh yeah, in my head I typed "evens remove cards"
Oopsie!
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>>98251572
Assassin's Creed
March of the Machine: Aftermath
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>>98251584
Was assassin's Creed that much worse?
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>>98251486
>>98251567
Chinese alt arts are always phonky
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>>98251584
Even if aftermath was shit, there was at least soul in the art.
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>>98251591
The faces in top left and top right are fucking gold.
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>>98251555
Nah, UB enjoyers are the equivalent of a very recursive STD.
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>>98251489
While playing Legacy at my LGS I overheard some EDHonlies discussing how awful UB was around the time Turtles released, so I think there are at least some there that find it abhorrent too.
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>>98251588
No, but the post didn't ask for a set that was "much worse" it asked for a set that was worse.
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>>98251616
Sorry but people who don't fit my world view do NOT exist
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>>98251584
Ass Creed wan't standard legal, so it's automatically better
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do the people who play current standard actually enjoy it? or are they just forcing themselves to play it out of habit
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Nobody plays Standard outside Arena.
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>>98251975
>do the people who play current standard actually enjoy it? or are they just forcing themselves to play it out of habit
In order to comprehend how people find themselves repeatedly engaging with slop vomit, you must first understand the amoral metaphysical dread they would lay down their lives to defend.
They exist only to consume. It's an addiction with no high, just an endless cycle of devouring meaningless nothingness.
No, they do not enjoy it. No, they are not forcing themselves to play it. They simply don't exist. They are spiritual null values, fanatically devoted to staying on the same hamster wheel until they die.
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>>98251975
I was curious so I checked the most recent standard challenge on MTGO
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/standard-challenge-32-2026-06-22#online
out of the 32 players here, I think it's fair to say that at least 3 of them aren't MTGO grinders
so small sample size but about 90% of the standard scene on MTGO is just people who play events for a living
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>>98252012
how do you know who is and isnt a grinder
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>>98251507
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>>98251599
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>>98252037
I'm familar with the names, and I check the tournament result page for the ones I'm not familar with
these are the 3 I don't consider grinders:
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/Hongfu_Eureka
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/Kvothe_De_Arrascaeta
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/player/jackie42005
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Standard: Flourishing
Nebraska: Booming
Blast: Had
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>>98252080
Based authentic, grassroots blast haver.
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Are we having a blast yet, Mr Krabs?
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>>98252117
why is avatar in the landfill when it actually sold well?
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>>98252124
>why is avatar in the landfill when it actually sold well?
They all sold well, anon.
Every UB set is a massive success.
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>>98252124
there's just that much product
people bought so many they don't even know what to do with it!
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>>98251507
Even means it can be divided by 2 and have no remainder. Guess what chucklenuts
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>>98252124
UB in general is a forced product did by WotC. People is interested? No but Stores are forced to buy to acquire actual good Magic Products.
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>>98252438
People were interested in Lord of the Rings and Final Fantasy.
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>>98249123
Bullshit. Assassins Creed Universes Beyond is nothing BUT real world references. That and THREE New York sets.
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play

premodern
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gay

bolas
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this

gamesucks
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>he says he hates UB but he doesn't know the current Magic story
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>>98252962
You say that as if the current Magic story isn't just a giant embarrassment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYq7EZxTYr8
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shit

game
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>>98252438
>good magic products
Anon please I was eating
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>>98252962
I havent cared about the
>story
since the wet fart that was March of the Machines
And I was the kid reading Mirrodin novels in high school
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>>98252962
>wotc intentionally destroys the magic setting with hat-shit, while developing UB
>see anon? There is no choice other than UB
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>>98247234
>decide to try standard
>two months later I'm out and just going back to EDH
The issue is simply set frequency. I make a deck and it is invalid a few weeks later because another new set releases and changes everything. New sets come so fast that by the time my order arrives for the current set we are getting spoilers for the next one.
Could be fun otherwise. But I get maybe 4 chances to play my fucking deck before the next set upends things.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!
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>>98253167
It used to be marginally less ass when the release was four sets per year with a core set serving as a buffer between three sets linked mechanically and thematically with each other. Now every set has to be setup and payoff, and that means the individual strategies are insanely parasitic and juiced to all hell.
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>>98250371
calling a t4 4/4 flampler a "do nothing" is such a perfect encapsulation of the power creep lol
it's not amazing by post-2020 standards but it's a pretty good card in WOE draft
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>>98250982
you don't get it, when people planeswalk to bloomburrow they become small animals. so that means that you need to mentally adjust sizes, when a bloomburrow mouse is fighting an ixalan vampire he becomes a 6' tall mousemanthing
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>>98250492
Eomer somehow was white even though his uncle, Theoden, and full blood sister, Eowyn, were both black

I may never puzzle out what they meant by this
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yas kween
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Here mono-red version is *chef's kiss*
Hahahahaaaa
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>>98253302
Did we realy need 8 version of the same C list character?
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>>98253315
to be fair the real game only has 2
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>>98253315
No, which is why there's only seven.
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>>98253302
>*chef's kiss*
People who use this expression are always the biggest faggots
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>>98253324
>real game
UB isn't considered real by my gaming circle
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>>98253315
1 for casual commander
1 for serious commander
1 for Jumpstart
1 for Draft
1 for art collectors
1 for Beginners
1 for constructed
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>>98253345
Back in my day, all we had was grizzly bears and hill giants and we LIKED it that way!
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even the jewtube piggies are unhappy with the exorbitant amount of versions one chara gets
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I have no interest in playing this game any longer. The Marvel tie in killed it for me and this is coming from a fan of comic books. I played Magic because I enjoyed the settings and characters, otherwise I would play a different card game. If you had told me years ago that in the future we would be casting everyone’s favorite psychic, Professor Xavier, I would have laughed. The world of Magic is irreparably tarnished with the inclusion of other licenses. They had a fantastic globally recognized IP that I can no longer respect in the slightest.
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>>98253488
Checked >>98252640
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>>98253287
Why does she looks white in this art? WTF white washing?

>>98253302
I miss remembering the name of the commander variant where people played with commanders with cmc 3 or less.
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>>98253488
for me, there is a kind of austere bliss in griefing the new audience with a carefully hoarded package of silver bullets

it is not and never was about having fun
never was about playing magic
it's about sending a message
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>>98253436
This doesn't mean shit when the very next day they'll praise how cool and totally worth it the next product his.
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>>98253504
Tiny Leaders
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>>98253488
But we can't cast professor xavier yet.
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>>98253592
>he doesn't know Xavier is old Miles Morales in the nu-canon
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>>98253488
A bit of an aside but I'm really curious how the UB sets have performed over time. From what I understand the basic point of them isn't necessarily to cater to people who already bought into MTG, but rather to get new people hooked and so expand the consumer base. I really want to see some metrics on how that's working out.
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>>98253659
google up the term "potemkin village"
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Professor Xavier's Wheelchair (3)
Artifact Vehicle
Equipped creature has +3/+3, trample and "whenever this creature deals combat damage, draw that many cards"
Equip crippled 0 (a creature is crippled if it has 0 attack or -1/-1 counters on it)

Gender Affirming Saw (2)
Artifact
1, tap: Put a -1/-1 counter on target creature
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>>98253659
WOTC thinks that nearly 50% of all magic players are women, which isnt supported by reality, with that in mind who is tracking player retention and how?
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>7 products a year
>More than half of them are not even real Magic products but shit to attract zoomers for short terms benefits
>Not even adequately curate the formats
>The only way to try and play this game are not official formats made from people so tired of garbage they made their own
Yep, yep
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fantasticar is now part of legacy doomsday
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7846631#paper
unclear if storm wants it yet, but I'm heavily leaning towards yes since it's even easier to cast 4 noncreatures in a turn
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>fantasticar is now part of legacy doomsday
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>>98253837
dire
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>>98253735
>my name is SAFFRON oliVE
>legitimate source of information

nah
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bought a playset of mox opals, time to go play Lantern Control for the rest of the RCQ season
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>>98253909
do you not understand how leagues work?
goldfish is just reposting from the official website :
https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/legacy-league-2026-06-2410831#deck_Luvilon
it's the exact same list
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>>98253929
>official website
>legitimate source of information

mhm
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marvel is just too much... but the fact we are getting the hobbit AND trek in few months makes it so much worse...
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To everyone "quitting", are you switching to a new tcg? If so, what?

Or are you abandoning the card game genre?

I find the latter will "quit" but inevitably return to scratch the itch, because they didn't have the replacement. The former will play an acg, but complain the whole time about the things that make it different from magic.
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>>98253929
do you not understand that anything from a wizards mouthpiece is pure fiction?
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>>98253735
Depressing list
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>>98253488
You didn't mention that the in-universe story has gone to absolute shit, even ignoring the mandatory quota of fat black aunties and trannies/fags/wheelchair people per set.

UB may be cancer, but UW is also cancer. It's almost like magic is cancer right now.
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>>98253939
NTA but this is what people are playing near me.
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>>98253955
>Lorcana
Do fags really?
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>>98253965
I assume it's the one TCG with female representation
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>>98253941
Those are league results. What are you like this? Is everything ok at home?
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>>98253837
why? the deck doesn't cast that many spells to begin with
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>>98253939
I decided to quit on a high note. Final Fantasy draft was extremely fun and i quit right after. I wont return i wont even play commander with my friend who has a bunch of decks. Ive lost all interest in all tcg i dont even want to play slay the spire anymore… fuck cards!
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>>98253939
>To everyone "quitting",
I haven't played paper since OG Zendikar, when I sold my decks. I've played few games of commander but found it not fun.
I play Pioneer on Arena and that's the only way I interact with MTG these days. Except also miring the cope in the general.
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>>98254003
Based and redpilled.
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>>98254003
>Pioneer on Arena
This anon is a smart individual
Be like this anon
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Just one more UB set and then we're back on track to REAL Magic.
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>>98253979
they didn't just put 3x car in a traditional doomsday list, it's also running 4x mishra's bauble and an extra lotus petal, you can dark ritual into a car, if they try to counter it, you can daze or fow, then you only need an extra spell to trigger it, it's pretty easy to do
it's not exactly like running extra copies of doomsday but it's pretty close, it puts a lot of stress on your opponents counters because usually permanent removal is not very effective against the deck, now they have a permanent that can dish out 16 damage if it goes unanswered for a turn or two
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>>98254027
>just 1 more Jace card and we're neve seeing real magic again
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>>98253693
Its the classic "80% of Magic players are casual kitchen table only" number they throw around...with no actual way to ever prove or show that would be the case considering those people don't feed any metrics that companies would normally use to obtain said data...

But people seem content to just take whatever WotC says at face value for some reason.
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>>98254029
ah so doomsday has become the plan B in a fantastisöy deck
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>>98254084
I wouldn't go that far, doomsday is still plan A because it's hard to interact without hard counters and it demands more cards to function, the car can make use of the same combo pieces (dark ritual, lotus petal, cheap cantrips) and if it doesn't get countered on the stack, you're probably going to win the game
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>>98254057
I know it's anecdotal evidence, but here is the case: I moved to another country and started a my native language mtg playgroup there. Over the course of 4 years I have amassed 30 players:

Only one player plays standard in stores
3 players play draft in stores
2 players play pauper in stores
Around 10 people go to prereleases

The rest plays at home only.
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blb was kino
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>>98253735
>unclear if storm wants it yet
It does, it's insanely broken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iELmLWxdN8
this is actually really good news because the more blantly broken it is, the more likely it is to get banned
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>>98254265
Okay but why post an ECL card to make that point?
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>>98254243
Ah shit
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>>98254313
Because Ron Spears was the artist.
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>>98254029
as the only person itt who actually owns and plays legacy storm I can promise you that car is not even remotely legacy viable. I'd be flabbergasted if it even gets there in pioneer
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>>98254454
>as the only person itt who actually owns and plays legacy storm I can promise you that car is not even remotely legacy viable.
watch this
>>98254311
>I'd be flabbergasted if it even gets there in pioneer
it's already a vintage staple that's going to be restricted
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>>98254454
>I'd be flabbergasted if it even gets there in pioneer
It's not legal in Standard/Pioneer/Modern, it's from the Jumpstart set.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTDILn-tbfU
THE CAR IS SO FUCKING BROKEN
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procure an endorsement
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If bridge comes off the ban list what does the deck look like for Modern?
Just this minus hogaak?
What additions would it run?
Wistfulness in sb and boseijus main?
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>>98254243
RIP.
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>>98254591
I don't think the deck is worth playing without hogaak, the deck has 2 modes: fast aggro and oops I win the game because I have altar + bridge on turn 2
if you can't combo, you're just a worse version of hollow one since that deck is actually faster and stronger against graveyard hate
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>>98254512
>opponent scoops in disgust
>LOOK I WON THEM ALL
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>>98254679
This, but unironically.
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>>98254591
Altar and Bridge are highly synergistic with Hogaak and neither one functions the same on their own without Hogaak. I don’t think Bridge (or Altar for that matter) would see play in Vengevine decks but Bridge always saw some play in Dredge.

Without Hogaak the Altar is weak, without the Altar the Bridge is weak
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>>98253939
This week I booted up Master Duel for the first time in years.
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>>98254679
>>98254688
>UB is so strong it forces people to concede on principle alone
at last I truly see
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>>98254591
Just come to Legacy if you want to play this archtype, it's not that bad.
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>>98253939
I only played magic through MODO for a long time, but I stopped in Lord of the Rings and haven't found a reason to return, or the reasons to avoid current magic were stronger and stronger. I play forge adventure and I make custom cards.
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>>98254191
What formats do they play?
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>>98254243
>brain tumor for 2 years
>die right before scheduled surgery
Damn. Does this mean his signed cards go up in price?
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>>98254243
RIP

>>98254512
damn
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>>98254679
Clearly, you have never played Vintage (most anons haven't, but still...).
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>>98254735
I could buy a car instead of a legacy deck but thanks
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>>98255104
I'm confused, do you not already have the cards for Hogaak? The only essential upgrade you need is Cabal Therapy, you can play everything else from the Modern list.
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If we ever get A Game of Thrones UB I hope they go by the books instead of the HBO series (and if they wait until the next book is out the better)

And they would have so much material to do, commander decks could be for A Knight of 7 kingdoms and House of Dragons.
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>>98255104
Bro your chinese proxies?
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>>98255138
Oh boy I can't wait for the explosive diarrhea card!
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>>98255138
>wait until the next book is out
You're funny.
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The Witcher UB when?
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The Witcher UB when?
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The Witcher UB when?
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>>98255240
>>98255248
>>98255299
imagine if we got a gwent card like pic related did
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>>98255333
checked
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Silent Hill UB when?
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why does every other 1 and 2 drop just grow infinitely with +1 counters now? like what the fuck is the point of playing anything that would get a temp buff anymore
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>>98255370
Because the three other players will gang up on you if you threaten too much.
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>>98255404
I don't get it
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>>98255953
>Gamma
>Gamma
>Gamma
*Pukes*
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>>98255953
I would play the shit out of this in pioneer if wayta wasn't from a commander precon
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>>98255983
wayta is a 10c card, so is reckoner
sheboon will set you back 10 bucks a copy right now
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>>98255161
Hmmm are you memeing on me or does this actually work? I assume if i dont say they are proxies nobody will ask or care right?
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>>98256007
>I assume if i dont say they are proxies nobody will ask or care right?
that's the idea
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>>98255119
Seems like a waste of time to invest in the format to get fantasticard by a $50k deck.
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>>98256012
I bet if i double sleeved them too it would be fine if the proxies are good ill check it out thanks.
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>>98256030
the car is getting banned, don't worry about it
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>>98254853
Drafts and commander.
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>Final Fantasy and ATLA are the best performing UBs.

Anime UBs are inevitable aren't they?
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>>98247831
>Magic IN SPACE is the second best selling set in the chart.
What's going on?
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>>98254512
Who could have seen it coming!
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>>98256202
What? EoE was great
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>>98256202
Stop being a contrarian piece of shit and take the Monoist pill already.
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>>98255953
>3 mana card
>3 mana card
>6 mana card
>Does 9 damage
Good bait
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>>98256229
>>98256262
The true space set is coming :)
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>>98247831
The fact EOE is so high confirms this graph is incorrect.
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EOE is a good set because every time I buy some packs off the shelf I get absolute bangers.
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>>98256313
>>98256373
they really should've picked a different acronym
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Cope niggers. These are the understocked Magic products, according to tcgplayer. Meaning Marvel is fucking selling.
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>>98256417
Pigs will search any data to try and justify UB existing, kinda sad
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>>98256007
>>98256043
Some chinks sell proxies that basically look just like the real thing.
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As shit as MAHVEL is, at least the set is full of sexy white women in skintight body suits showing off their tits. Modern magic can't compete
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>>98256485
It's sad that you use tcgplayer data to prove ub is not selling, yet when the same source gives you data that it's not the case, you are saddened by imaginary pigs. Curious.
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>>98256519
>sets with attractive women sell well
>fill all the UW sets with blacks, trannies and general uggos
Why? Isn't that just poor business decisions?
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>>98256647
They need justification for why UB is better.
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>>98256647
After seeing how niggerfied lotr was future UBs likely did not relinquish creative control to jotc and everything needs to be approved by the IP holders, i.e covering up teen tummies always shown in the show would not be approved.

If it was up to jotc of course they would try and troon/dei everything up



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