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>>98252945I love my Taurox, it was a my first model. Also Blood Angels Bros we are getting our asses handed to us.
>>98252979Context is missing, there are multiple points that need to hit 1,750,000 BA are still on phase 2 and Orks are on phase 3. GW will uses these results to affect the battle for Hive Deathmire.
I want to smell Lilith Hesperax's massive ass and watch her turn into a giantess and brap cities down.
>>98252983Ah, okay. Was a little confused on the graph for a bit there. I wonder if them not including the phases was a genuine error or if they left it out to keep people from piling onto whichever side got into a clear lead?
Just consoomed all the books/cards in Armageddon from a resellerHow retarded am I?
>>98252986This, but with Yvraine.
>>98252979>>98252983>>98252987There may be millions who love space marines, but there are hundreds of millions who love to hate space marines.
>>98252983>>98252979>>98252987>>98252994Can't believe James gave BA the box cover just so they could job to orks sparing Bobby and Titty the shame. Masterfully done GW I can't wait to see the resultant Death Company influx and anguished pretty boy deathmask upgrade sprue to commemorate getting krumped.Btw all store SM sides are blue boys and they will canonically have won all of their engagements. Stay red and seething.
>>98252986I'm not a brapfag but I am severely sad at the lack of giantess art in 40k. My friend is printing me a hyper tits and ass Lelith. She'll be pA giantess for my homebrew shit. I'll have to post her here one day. Yeah it's fetish stuff so I'll censor the nips.
>>98253010I dunno why I hit enter and added a p. I'm tired.
>>98253004>box cover BAI'm still baffled by this low level nostalgiawankHopefully BA get a good Death Company kit
>>98252994In my defense I am a guard bro, I want to save Deathmire for Old Bale Eye!
>Cook up a new Guard list because my current one is stale (and points shifts FUCKED it)>It'll probably run me half a thou if I'm lucky
What so you think we'll see during the weekend preview?
>>98253059>40kCodex, maybe a teaser for the next big thing>AoSOgres>HHNo idea, maybe mechanicus robot>Old WorldCharacter>KTAnother KT like the red terror of 1 big guy vs regular kt>necromundaNew box with escher vs goliath refresh>blood bowlreturn of an old character>legiones imperialisNo clue & who cares
post models please and thanks
>>98253107Whenever I see posts like this I get an urge to post a random beautiful woman from my collection.
>>98253107kind of tempted to make yellow templars>not my models, obviously
>>98253117Nice Marines Malevolent!
Good news, guy.The 11th edition lore has a bit that says that the Tau are the only race that hasn't given in to unreasoning hate.Now how can anyone argue that they aren't the good guys?
>>98253130>The 11th edition lore has a bit that says that the Tau are the only race that hasn't given in to unreasoning hate.Care to share it? >Now how can anyone argue that they aren't the good guys?Because there's no source?
>TQTie between my Sicarians and Hastarii.
Can an Eldar devote themself to a chaos god to safe themself from Slaanesh? Like spreading enough stds so nurgles keeps you from she who thirsts? Or even start whoreshipping chaos undivided. I know they would never but could they?
>>98253117How about bronze/gold templars?
>>98253130>the Tau are the only race that hasn't given in to unreasoning hate*Yet
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>98253170Brother that's literally what they're trying to do with Ynnead.
Do you guys wear anything special when it’s gayming night with the boys? I usually wear some pajamas pants and a bow tie shirt with crocs.
>>98253179but he is an Eldar god so obviously he would do that but I'm talking about the chaos gods.
>>98253138Want me to take a picture or what?
>>98253170Chaos Eldar exist in the lore. Unclear if it protects them from Slaanesh, but probably yeah.
>>98253216Give three examples.
>>98253170Going Dark Eldar would generally be the preferable option
>>98253117
Now that we're on the verge of the Orks reveals, I want to harken back to the last 'first model wave' and ask:>why the fuck did they only remake one specific loadout of the carnifex instead of the whole damn thing?>why the fuck did we get three different types of lictor that weren't just variant builds of the same kit?>for that matter, why the fuck was a good quarter of the wave just lictor variants?>why the fuck did they redo genestealers but not the patriarch?>why the fuck did they make two new primes but not redo warriors?>why the fuck did a horsecock gun get added to termagants?>why the fuck was the Red Terror at the ass-end of the edition over the start when it kicks the norn's shit in as a centerpiece?>why the fuck make that new combat patrol with the rape-bat?>why the fuck did that codex get greenlit?>why the fuck everything?
>>98253261Don't forget how they held onto the regular tyranid prime for like 3 years just to throw it out at the end of 10th while everyone else was getting busted named characters and giant robots.
>Greyfax gives the squad she joins Anti-psyker 4+ and +1 to hit against below half strength>she can join any imperium battlelinewait a minute...>imperial guard infantry squads can be 20 people>with plasma and grenades>can also be joined by a command squad as part of a special rule, which is another special weapon and 5 more people>20+ lasguns, can receive an order that makes it 60 shots>60 shots that can have anti-psyker 4+I feel like a grey knights or thousand sons player would say this is stupidhttps://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/mfQzj
>>98253306who is this random nigger moment going on in this artwork
>>98253308Fall of cadia shit, that introduced wonderful & adored characters like>greyfax the inquisitor>the ynnari gang>cawl
The Ordo Astartes is investigating Roboute for legion building. Assume they find the proof they need. What happens next?
>>98253319no no i know the characters, just that visarch looks super out of place
>>98253326The Fall of Cadia was a memorable narrative campaign
>>98252945>TQThe humble Incubi will always be my favorite.If they are good, I will run 10.If they are great, I will run 15.If they are bad, I will run 20.If they are terrible, I will run 30.
>>98253334holy based
>>98253170Problem of non-slaanesh eldar is "chaos gods cant give them what they want and they are temu Khaine/Isha/Cegorach), meanwhile slaanesh is a thing, what eldar gods didnt cover
Thread Question:Are you running Ancients now they cost 40?
Why does this game lack so much of the grit that 40k is all about? Were they afraid of newbies getting scared off or some gay shit?
>>98253361>bannersonly in command squads
>>98253368darktide best sci-fi warhammer game by a long mile ngl
>>98253334They're definitely the coolest part of DEldar, for me at least.
>>98253368What grit exactly do you feel it is missing?
>>98253368it's because unlike darktide everything is model-compliantalso because primaris a shit
>>98253368It's for normalfags
>>98253372nah, that's DoW2, it's the best showing of 40k.
>>98253378>unlike darktide everything is model-compliantDarktide is half model compliant. Sad they didn't give the skittles a way to look like the assassins despite giving them the chordclaw & vibro blades.
>>98253368The Tyranids are all pretty gritty. The Imperium is still dark but treats their darker aspects like heroic ones, which is tone appropriate. It's only the Ultramarines being less grim than most space marines and the Thousand Sons being goofy wacky villains really.
>>98253388This.DoW2WH 40k Squad CommandUltramarines MovieHell SM1 is a better 40k game than darktide. Darktide would have been dead on arrival if it wasn't a 40k game.
>>98253322nothing because presenting the imperial factions as divided hurts sales
>>98253368it's a hack and slash with minimal storytellingyou can't introduce newbies to shit, they don't want to be introduced to shit, they just want to kill aliens
>>98253388that's fine and good through the lens of wanting to play an RTS and yes it's the best of thembut idk mang in the way of actual immersion into the setting of 40gay atop, holy shit fatshark wtfjust a very tactile and smothering game desu
>>98253400This is one of the things that bugs me most about the current lore. There's no real justification given for ongoing Imperium infighting anymore and it's still far and away the most common match-ups on the tabletop.
>>98253409DoW2 is the best showing of the setting, hands down
>>98253377It's a combination of different factors to me. I'm actually okay with things being bright and colourful instead of darktide Grey-brown-green combos, but because of it and the model-accurate aesthetic, there isn't anything scary about the forces of chaos in the game, they're basically just cartoon villains - which yes, they are in personality usually, but when one literally goes "we're using your precious cadians as kindling!" i just roll my eyes, space marines shouldn't give a shit about guardsmen unless they're one of the super nice chapters (the lack of friendly fire on guardsmen also makes the battles feel significantly less tactile and chaotic, because I know that if a guardsman is surrounded by nids and I wanna help him, the best strategy is to just throw a grenade at his feet, which is dumb. Keeping your mooks alive should be difficult and feel rewarding in games like this)In terms of sheer mass, the tyranids feel effective and intimidating, but the psychic-induced cosmic horror elements are completely missing which sucks, and last I checked tyranids could cause chaos forces to turn to dust in real space due to the shadow in the warp so them both showing up for some silly master plan on the part of the thousand sons is extremely bizarre. Also besides generic mentions, tyranid spores and the way they eat you from inside aren't focused on muchThings just feel too egalitarian in the imperium space, the only nasty guys are the inquisition and the mechanicus guys and the mechanicus even have a token nice guy in the form of the magosBut I think the ultimate problem for me is a lack of civilians. I'm not saying it needs to be the Dead Space 2 intro sequence or anything, but these horrible monster alien bugs are here to be killing everything and eating everything, and the deployment of the virus bomb in the first level will kill every human on the planet but it's just not really addressed, and neither are the civvies who'd get nommed
>>98253414 (me)I think the game is a lot of fun in mechanical terms I just didn't start playing until recently and I always kept hearing about how it fits the 'vibe' of 40k so well and I just think it does a lot of half measuresAlso not grit-related, but the timescale of the game being so short is really bizarre. The whole thing just takes place over like 10 days for some reason? Titus being nearly killed and then being primarised and healed in less than 2 days is utterly retarded and nonsensical and they could've literally just had a timeskip. Also sucks as a deathwatch fan to get such a cool outfit but a terribly poor showing, and you'd think the deathwatch would have a ton of lock and key rituals and bureaucracy and shit that would need to be done to get Titus back into the UM but it's not even alluded to
>>98253107I have now finished a Redemptor to go alongside a Ballistus I finished and posted a few threads ago. He has since gone on to be the star of an 11th edition game, surviving three separate battle rounds on 2 wounds remaining first against a Norn Assimilator and then against a Hive Tyrant w/ tyrant guard. I used Only In Death both rounds and he didn't end up dying in either. Might have to do a Brutalis now. Can't lie, I feel like going for the bolt rifles over the talons on it.
>>98253261>>why the fuck did we get three different types of lictor that weren't just variant builds of the same kit?Have you ever actually built the regular lictor kit? That thing is fucking crazy. It's very specific in how it goes together and without heavy conversion work gives you three poses, but those three poses are completely different betwen each one. They were clearly experiment ing with some kit engineering bullshit when they made it. The Neurolictor and Deathleaper are completely different and much simpler, especially the Neurolictor.
>>98253414>but when one literally goes "we're using your precious cadians as kindling!" i just roll my eyesNta but what do we mean by "cartoon villains"?When I think of a cartoon villain, I think of silly saturday morning cartoon bad guys polluting the earth because they are Eeeeeviiiillll mwahahaha.Chaos in warhammer, on the other hand, are power hungry psychos who conquer worlds to sacrifice their population for the favors of gods, who more often than not trick their followers by promising things that were gonna happen anyway.Champions of chaos don't throw babies on spikes because it's silly, but because they get kick out of it and hope to gain from it.That sort of behavior is often characterized as "cartoon villainy" despite it being extremely common in our reality.In short: is it actuall silly or do you find it silly because of how far it goes?
>>98253429This is well painted, the pose is decent. Nice lense.
>>98253445>Champions of chaos don't throw babies on spikes because it's silly, but because they get kick out of it and hope to gain from it.Sure but they don't throw any babies on any spikes in the game is what I meanAaaaand most of the thousand sons you see in game aren't even sentient anyway
>>98253414>Things just feel too egalitarian in the imperium space, the only nasty guys are the inquisition and the mechanicus guys and the mechanicus even have a token nice guy in the form of the magos>But I think the ultimate problem for me is a lack of civiliansA table top wargame is not going to focus in civilians, anon. They're not the main attraction.However there are a few BL stories in the HH and 40k featuring the PoV of regular people making a living in these eras that are quite interesting, like pic related.
>>98253456Anon... I'm talking about the vidya game. Of course no civilians are going to show up on the tabletop
>>98253446Ty anon. I got this model way back in 2018, part of the Tooth and Claw box. I was a dumbass kid and built it horribly, left it in my cupboard up until a week ago.After finishing the Ballistus I pried it apart and did my best at reposing it and fixing up all the little things I had ignored back then. You can still see some of the old mistakes, like a sprue marking not filed down yet on his left shoulder, and the piston missing on his right thigh.
>>98253448SM2 is extremely tame yes, modern 40k is afraid of what made it fun to begin with.
>>98253456Years ago they published a bunch of these stories under the "warhammer crime" label.They're interesting in that they're cyberpunk stories set in 40k cities, and not flanderized like Necromunda or the Abnettverse
>>98253456>>98253461>no civilians on tabletopThey should. That's a fun scenario, many historical games have rules for that, it's not complicated.>>98253462I had no idea this box existed, neat
>>98253445NTA but all 40k characters in a power armor are inherently cartoony looking including all chaos ones. The stubby fat proportions make them look silly.
>>98253261>why the fuck make that new combat patrol with the rape-bat?Combat patrol exists to move old stock that isn't sellingThe problem with the parasite is it's NOT a unique hero, but it's named like oneDo you know ANYBODY who owns more than one of them?
>>98253107Progress on the wartrakk.
>the civilians move d6" every turn towards the far table edge across the center between deployment zones >defender has to protect them, 10vp if they make it to the table edge>attacker has to kill them, 10vp if they do>they have lone operative if there's a friendly unit within 6"
>>98253468I think the tickness and more basic shapes does wonders to convey how backwards/medieval that universe is.40k is not sci-fi, it's space fantasy.Not only that, but it's not space with fantasy, it's fantasy in space.
>>982533882 has crap gameplay THOUGH
>>98253482The campaigns are fun, but the stat creeps on enemy is fun unless you're cheesing it. Cheesing feels great tho #CyrusTheDemoman
>>98253368To this day Dawn of War 1 is the only game that depicted civillians in 40K and it sucks that no other game or even the tabletop has tried to depict that. Definitely made that mission feel like a real war having men, women and children all running in terror in the midst of battle between the Marines and Orkz.
>>98253482I like the gameplay, the only thing people ever complain about the "gameplay" is the lack of base building.
>tqBroadside or RiptideMe like beeg robot
>>98253465>>no civilians on tabletop>They should. That's a fun scenario, many historical games have rules for that, it's not complicated.agreed, and the defender/attacker of the noncombatants should be random because any faction could justify it tbqh
What would you replace this unit with to make GK more desirable to play?
>>98253497>attacking ork town>snotlings and grots running around>snotlings are like nurglings/ripperswarms, multiple on a base>if you come too close/scare them they can attack, use shock attack gun result tableSomething like that
>>98253464They say that somewhere anon is STILL angry about the Wraithbone Phoenix.
>>98253503Grand master in contemptor dreadnought. Psyker dread.Or you keep the big exosuit idea but rework it to be an inquisitor and change the design of the suit)
>>98253503there was so many dogshit model design ideas in 5th my godThe only good stuff in 5th came from taking existing forgeworld kits and making them into plastic like the Valkyrie and the Baneblade
>>98253517It was around that time GW realized that big plastic models sold well. This directly tied to the fall of WHFB and the shift of 40k.
>>98253503Just make the HH dread conversion the official model.
>>98253487Even if you get normie humans on the table it can be justified as "Chaos wants these guys for sacrifices, and we're gonna kill them so that doesn't happen!"
>>98253503>What would you replace this unit with to make GK more desirable to play?Replace it with the saturnine dreadnought. But give the dreadnaught arms.
>>98253400>>98253411Then why is GW seeding the lore with Inquisitors after Roboute's blue ass?
>>98253539the only thing gulliman is hiding is his elf wife
>>98253225The Dark Eldar omnibus has about 3 examples in total>The former ruler of Shaa-dom, a rival city to Commorragh>An ancient Archon who gets mindraped by said ruler after resurrecting him (it was a very bad idea but they were desperate)>A Warlock of Ulthwe who doesn't realize he's a puppet of Tzeentch and thinks he's accurately predicting the future when Tzeentch is just feeding him illusions to dupe him into destroying Commorragh via Dysjunction
>>98253539These faggots haven't read anything published by GW in decades, anon. They have no idea of what's going on in 40k besides online memes
>>98253490there's much worse than removing basebuilding, like the retarded raid bosses and the fact that the actual gameplay is the same on every map>put dudes in cover>pull enemy pack>activate all unit skills>win>wait for cooldowns to expire>advance to next encounter>repeat
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98253570We've seen minis posted from every ritual poster so far, except yours. You need to confirm to us that you actually play deldar
>>98252945>Complaining in the OP>No TitleKWAB
>>98253004Well, Bobby G jobbed to tyranids last time they did this poll. Every time GW tries to prop up a faction and the players have the opportunity to vote against them, they do. Goes back all the way to Storm of Chaos, when they shilled Warriors of Chaos hard so playerbase made Archaon job to Grimgor.
>>98253539because they need filler for their low efforts books
>>98253539there are a lot of writers implementing good ideas that would make for an interesting direction, the problem is just that the gw corporate direction will never allow anything that rocks the boat or alters the status quo will be allowed unless it's guaranteed to make a huge fiscal return
>>98253539the coup by the High Lords of Terra was relegated to a couple of throwaway filler lines in a codex, this is another throwaway filler line in a codex, GW doesn't give a fuck about the Imperium being grimdark anymore, it just adds half-assed lore blurbs about how random Inquisitor #48593 murdered 17 Trillion Innocent Babies trying to kill Guilliman but Guilliman killed him so it's all okay now
>>98253539KRYPTMAN???
QRD on the strength of each Force Disposition?Is Purge the Foe on top?
>>98253606On paper. Austists engage in full purge arms race where they make goofy 6 unit armies because purge mirror is kill more.In actuality, after 5 or so games I've come to believe it doesn't matter nearly as much as GW shills want you to believe, if you kill them they can't score primary.
>>98253593Thisbut it works for retarded faggots like >>98253563
Chaos soup question for viability - Am I better off with shadow legion daemons with csm/cultists and some wardogs or CSM including belakor and knights with cultist spam? Not asking if it's actually a good list but more on legality/rules affecting units type of deal
>>98253563"These faggots" know enough to tell you that no matter the niche fluff at the side of a page says, nothing fucking happens, there's no great divide in the imperial structure, no brewing civil war, no major excuses for imperium vs imperium matches that haven't been a thing since the early editions.And now more than ever GW has economic incentives against such developments.
>>98253612>Not asking if it's actually a good list but more on legality/rules affecting units type of dealIt depends what units you like desuWith SL you can't use Daemon Princes and other Epic Heroes, no vehicles as well. If that's OK with you then yes Daemons is better than CSM and its shitty Battleline tax that almost only favors Nurgle with its 40 point Nurglings.
>>98253503>What would you replace this unit with to make GK more desirable to play?Judging by the rest of the comments, we all agree that the model is fine as it is. It does not need to be replaced by anything. You just need to take it and put it in the bin, along with the rest of your Ghey Knights.
>>98253606What your list is matters much more than some tier list for force dispositions. You can tailor for any of them and have it do really well. For example, I've been playing Tyranids in Vanguard Onslaught and Lictors are so fucking good for the Recon disposition, but they'd be garbage for something like Purge.
>>98253606purge will probably get better over the course of the editionPower creep means newer books will be naturally more efficient at killingBuild for purge or practice the missions where you fight purge. That's the best advice.
>>98253620im not too hot on epics anyway so that's manageable, for csm-primary i was thinking warpstrikes champions and devotees something like this>CL in termie>sorc in termie, binding rune enhancement>dark apostle>warpsmith>2x10 cultists>2x5 chaos termie squad>2x5 havocs>defiler, hades lascannons>belakor>2x war dog executionersi know he seems kinda random here and i could probably squash 1 squad of havocs to have a bigger knight in instead of executioners but i also do like the dogs. Vibe was for dark mechy/iron warriors-word bearers ideological mix
>>98253602I would assume Karamazov.Kryptman might still be occupied with the nids. And the excommunicated.
>>98253414don't forget that cadians don't even gib when they die. LAME!
>>98253593>the coup by the High Lords of Terra was relegated to a couple of throwaway filler lines in a codexwrong, retard. There's an entire book about it.>>98253615Imperials team kill each other all the time, but you don't know it because you're a fucking dirty casual
>>98253657nah, this is csm-main one, for chaos main i haven't compiled the list yet but wanted to take opinion regardless
>>98253606No idea but everyone believes that so it will be nerfed.
>>98253656>Imperials team kill each other all the timeHave you read the fucking post? The point is NOT that there's no teamkilling at all, but that there's no major growing divide or significant new reason for team killing despite "everything gw has published in decades".Jesus Christ, no wonder you project on others the inability to read books when you can't even read 2 fucking posts on 4chan.
>>98253651>karamazov>after the SoB throne gal was announcedI have no hope of seeing him again outside of a MtO
>>98253662Sorry I have very poor reading comprehension. I don't know how good termis are in 11th but I found them underwhelming in 10th. Good list otherwise.
>>98253606i have a guy swearing by Daemonic Incursion/disruption because he just boxes people with greater daemons from belakor's 6" deep strike aura and spams actions with minor chuds
>>98253656>wrong, retard. There's an entire book about it.An entirely irrelevant book. About a throwaway lore blurb in a codex. They do it all the time, expanding on something meaningless that was already resolved in the same blurb it was originally mentioned in. They could have made the friction between Guilliman and the High Lords an actual major campaign, something that actually matters, but no, the High Lords were wiped out instantly and replaced with puppets, this once-vital part of the Imperium's power structure relegated to nothing more than background fluff so that Guilliman can be le heckin cool good guy in charge. I fucking hate modern GW lore so much.
>>98253651>karamazov>kryptmann>kroyle>kyria>katarynia>koteazWhat's up with the K?
>>98253702Names starting with k are not that common in the british language.
>>98253676>>98253698>the lore evolving is bad>the lore staying the same is badyou're both fucking retardsAnd the book was great, btw.
>>98253686Not him and I imagine that will probably work decently well, actually, but can it manage to outlast, and more importantly, outscore a list that's just got to kill you to win the game? I guess time will tell but every gut feeling I have pulls me toward purge being either the best overall disposition if you can get it, or at the very least the easiest disposition to play for how effective it is.
>>98253712>>the lore evolving is badWho are you quoting?Seriously, LEARN TO FUCKING READ
>>98253676The Lion is at Ultramar. What do you think he is going to do?
>>98253718shut the fuck up, you have no fucking idea of what you're talking about. Go to sniff glue or whatever you do to feel smart
>>98253715i think the cuckmaster with rotigus/guo and skarbrand can stall and murder out well enough since you can't snipe him due to Wreathed in Shadow, i can see merit to his list but clearly needs more games for actual test sample to derive solid commentary
>>98253712>>98253726This better be bait, anon.
>>98253645I'd say put the termies into one big unit and have the termie sorc run solo. Lords do more for big units (assuming you have a good strat for them) and solo termie sorcs are actually pretty sweet. They're much harder to screen out (since it's just a single 40mm instead of 6), and they're obnoxiously annoying to actually kill relative to their value thanks to the familiar.
lawd fogive me... just bought anuddah sydonian skatros....
>>98253721>The Lion is at Ultramar.no, he is not
>>98253731Not bait, just me being tired of reading retarded opinions from morons that know nothing about 40k ongoing lore, or whine because GW doesn't stick to their headcanon based in the year they discovered 40k
>>98253733don't play games with me nigga you did nothe's great in crusade but i still think there's better ways to use 60 pts
>>98253726>you have no fucking idea of what you're talking about.I'm not the one quoting nonexistent posts or failing to read simple posts while whining about people not being able to read.Nothing has come out of any "tease" about an imperial civil war, nothing will come out of any "tease" about an imperial civil war, GW doesn't have the balls for it, and if you think otherwise then you're the one who doesn't know shit.
>>98253765>the lore staying the same is bad
>>98253107Work on some infractors for my lord exultant, a little rough but I'm aiming to have a solid 2K force before the end of July
>>98253733Send it my way
>>98253769Fuck
>>98253261>why the fuck did they only remake one specific loadout of the carnifex instead of the whole damn thing?Nostalgiabait for 2e grogs>why the fuck did we get three different types of lictor that weren't just variant builds of the same kit?I don't want to pay $100 USD for a Lictor so I'm glad they didn't. >for that matter, why the fuck was a good quarter of the wave just lictor variants?Lictors are cool, full stop.>why the fuck did they redo genestealers but not the patriarch?I assume you mean the Broodlord because that one needs a refresh much more badly than the Patriarch, but unfortunately it is still a relatively new kit so GW is not terribly incentivized to redo it.>why the fuck did they make two new primes but not redo warriors?This one is a head scratcher for me personally, especially as we had Raveners replaced as well who had a more recent kit than Warriors who have been working off retools of their 3rd edition kit for 20+ years.>why the fuck did a horsecock gun get added to termagants?Termagants have had specialist war gear on and off in the rules since their introduction but basically never actually any model bits to represent any of it, so it is nice to finally have something. I don't know what to tell you if you are unsettled by the gross organic gun analogues happening to resemble dicks other than "lol Giger".>why the fuck was the Red Terror at the ass-end of the edition over the start when it kicks the norn's shit in as a centerpiece?I mean that's a fairly opinionated statement, I agree that I prefer it over the Norns but they're a bit apples and oranges. The questions I have about the Norns are more along the lines of "why did they feed us bullshit about this kit being the biggest plastic Tyranid kit yet produced when the thing barely weighs in a hair over the Trygon even when standing on the tactical booster chair?"
>>98253768Yes, in this case it is, the setting is ripe for a more drastic divide between the radicals and the puritans, a divide that's formed in the fanbase and in the model ranges as well.
>>98253779>>Nostalgiabait for 2e grogswarhammer Nostalgiabait is for people who weren't there in the first place, funny enough.
>>98253768so now you're conceding that the lore stayed the same regarding imperial infighting? weren't you arguing that gw wrote a lot of developments in the past decades?
>>98253478>tfw havent even built anything from the armageddon box yet
>>98253107painted an eye
>>98253465Tooth and Claw is actually how they debuted the Abominant prior to their full codex release around 6 months later, and his initial stats and points included in that set were absolutely hilarious. He was like 75 points and the sledgehammer whacked you 3 times for S14 D6+3.
>>98253810>He was like 75 points and the sledgehammer whacked you 3 times for S14 D6+3.>3 times for S14 D6+3.
>>98253792The old lore was that Imperials infought constantly. The new lore is that Imperials just accept tech-heresy like Primaris without even questioning where it came from.
>>98253773They're looking good so far. Any plans for how you're gonna base them?
marinepiggies complaining about primaris are the biggest spergs in existence
>>98253806>tfw a daily dose of the paint master mogging us all
>>98253806Bro looks so happy, like you just brought him a nice gift
>>98253059Valraks exodite release he said was coming out 3 years ago
>>98253059warbikes / lootas / burnas refresh maybe
>>98253034Just don't?
>>98253059dinos will steal the show
>>98253869Seraphon are pretty cool, yeah.
>>98253581A little too on the nose for muh roman allegory to get beat by the goths.
is the recent exodite spam in this general for meme purposes only? i dont know if there are that many enthusiasts for them here
for indirect fire, if you meet the conditions (stays stationary and a unit can see the one being shot at) is there still a -1 to hit penalty?
>>98253885Man these comics were so ass, fuck you for reminding me of this garbage.
>>98253792I'm not conceding anything. i'm calling you a retard for being mad at the imperium not breaking in two, as if that was inherently a good story develpment and not just a retread.>>98253827The "new" (decade old) lore is that imperial still fight each other all the time. > Imperials just accept tech-heresy like Primaris without even questioning where it came fromNo they don't. There are multiple books with imperials mad about it
>>98253886They could be cool, we haven't seen them yet.
>>98253806 God dammit
>>98253914>No they don't. There are multiple books with imperials mad about itThere is ONE single case where someone actually was mad about Primaris, and it was the only based Black Templars left in the galaxy, who sacrificed their entire crusade to kill the Primaris reinforcements and the Cuckstodes who tried to force it on them. They were the last OGs of the Imperium. Everyone else, even Helbrecht, bent over for the Cuckstodes and Guillyfag's faggot marketing push
>>98253914>I'm not conceding anything.then you're backtracking and in denial
>>98253914>at war with each other>I'm angry about this!>What u gonna do?>Nothing. I'll just be mildly upset and then accept it anyway because the company wants to sell the thing I'm upset about
>>98253914>There are multiple books with imperials mad about itand doing nothing about it
>>98253921>much tech heresy>it's just another anti primaris sperg>ten years and countingyawn, read pic related and come back
>>98253886No, dinosaurs are cool.
>>98253952>you don't like shitty space marines?>Read shitty books insteadntab kek
>>98253914>as if that was inherently a good story develpmentit is, it supports mirror matches better, it supports the fanbase's own divide, it fosters harsher interactions, it allows gw to vent the contradictory characterisation they're giving the imperium
>>98253539>Then why is GW seeding the loreThey are not seeding anything, it's a bullshit throw away line that will be entirely irrelevant. If you expect them to kill Guilliman, a character that has a model they want to keep selling, then you're a retard.It's a line that is completely meaningless pulp and filler that will never be expanded upon.Or if it gets expanded upon it's going to be like 30 years from now where none of us will be around to care about it.
>>98253539>EVERYTHING IS A TEASER>EVERYTHING IS A HINT>EVERYTHING IS FOR HYPE>EVERYTHING IS A CLUE>EVERYTHING IS A CODE>EVERYTHING IS A PROMISEI blame marvel movies
>>98253539This ultimately means nothing, Imperium is constantly squabling amongst itself for stupid fucking reasons for no real gain.This is just fucking tuesday for the Imperium.
>>98253107just got most of the undercoats and basecoat done. now I’m going to paint the gold, silver, and flesh on.>>98253478kind of bummed out. when I saw you originally primed him blue, I thought he was meant to be a dieheard death skull who got into a tub of blue paint.>>98253769>>98253773glad to see someone else painting emperor’s children. but>painting pink EC with a black primer why? >>98253806what happens if you touch the eye?
>>98253899You hit on your normal + 1
>>98253983To be fair modern GW has teased every new release this way
>>98253721>The Lion is at Ultramar.No? He is not.>What do you think he is going to do?Fucking nothing even IF he was there. (he isn't)
>>98253107
>>98253921>and it was the only based Black Templars left in the galaxyThe black templar champion in that story was corrupted by Chaos at that point. It wasn't even subtle.Far from fucking based.
>>98254012>champion*chaplainbrainfart
>>98253986You forgot a few more posts to include in your (You) farming
>>98253989alrighty then looks like ridgerunners with survey augers are gonna be strong this edition
>>98254026yeah it's unthinkable he tries to actually engage in on-topic discussion, we should instead shitpost about burger politics and jews for 10 hours straight like yesterday
>>98254030Yes these are the only two alternatives. >>98254028What do you mean?>>98254017kek>>98254012Many such cases.
>>98253986>kind of bummed out. when I saw you originally primed him blue, I thought he was meant to be a dieheard death skull who got into a tub of blue paint.That would be pretty cool, but I've never tried painting paint on skin, save for the squigasaur the boss poured some blue paint on.Maybe I'll try it again on one of the boyz when I get to them.
>>98253986No offense but you should buy more paints to select a palette from so your two wholly different armies don't look like they are one army.
>>98254037and you should kill yourself.
Some dingus made a new thread alreadyProbably because someone "forgot" the thread title >>98253987>>98253987>>98253987
>>98254049We're on page 1. No reason to migrate.
>>98254049it's most definitely because he wants to force his gay reformatting and porn images
>>98254034hitting on 4s, stripping cover from the target hit and adding +1 to ap. not bad for an edition that gives -1 to hit for anything in cover
>>98253914>The "new" (decade old) loreI knew this would happen. Steamroll bullshit changes for corporate interests, wait 10 years, then try and tell people they're wrong to resist the bullshit corporate changes because "It's been that way for years now!"you disingenuous twat
>>98253487It's not 40k but it always bothered me to not have civilians in Total War Warhammer, cause Total War Attila and I think some others had civilians in siege battles, who would sometimes form up to make last ditch defenses (and end up getting slaughtered usually lol), that would be very appropriate for warhammer so it sucks it's not there
>>98253957>eldarfag finally reveals himselfyawn
>>98254054>spergs getting butthurt because their favorite link isnt in the header (that no one ever uses)the cancer that kills 4cringe threadsremember that one dude seething about puritans and saying he was going to spam the thread with porn images and never did?
It's the book about your favorite space marines that you always wanted to read again!https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ny1ljcbz/black-library-reveals-cadian-sniper-sequels-and-more/
>>98254026>>98254034making separate replies would theoretically get as many (You)s, so I don’t see what your point is.
>>98253478Looks good. I think I'm going deffskulls for these guys too
>>98254076The only thing this post is doing is confirming you're the same person who has threads-long spergouts about eldar.
>>98254076I'm still not buying primaris, lol sorry, I'm just not okay?
>>98254073You left out the "still" part of my statement.At least the anon mad about the lack of changes is whining about something real, you're just a fucking retard that never paid attention. Like the other moron whining about plot hooks and teasers and calling that "Marvel", lmao>Steamroll bullshit changes for corporate interestsALL 40k changes are that, are you new? fucking fake grog
>>98254090Based. Blue iz best.
>>98254099Look, I'm just not going to buy primaris, lol, okay?
I like orks :D
>>98254089It just borders on desperate avatarfagging
>>98253806Oil wash for the blue panel, pin/recess wash, or other?
>>98254092>>98254098>>98254105>The eldarfag is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a eldarfag and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out"
>>98254098I have pr*maris mostly because the kits I wanted have a random marine for some fucking reason.Like the combat arena lair of the beast. There is absolutely no reason for the marine to be there.
>>98254007>>98253738???The rock arrived at Ultramar
>>98254125>combat arena lair of the beast marine>primaris
>>98254119>everyone laughing at me is an eldarfagyou must be the harlequins' number one fan for seeing theme everywhere you go
>>98254125That's not a primaris maroon though.
>>98254128You do realize that the Rock coming Ultramar doesn't mean that fucking Lion is on it, right?Also like I said, it means fucking nothing anyway.
>>98254129Two separate things anon. Reason why I used marine and not pr*maris for the lair of the beast example.
>>98254037I’ve tried it before, but I generally like how my current paints look, so changing it just to give some variety isn’t really worth it for me. also I’d be worried I’ll forget what shade of purple or green I used and end up having a weird black sheep in my army.
>>98252945retarded fag can't even make the general rightalso why do you fuckers put>11th edition rulesin the sticky when YOU DON'T HAVE ANY 11TH ED RULES IN THE LINK? also can't believe there are no pdfs of 11ED stuff yet. you modern tourist summerfag redditors are fucking pathetic losers. I miss old 4chan.
>>98254125>eldarfags so butthurt over marines they don't even know what a primaris or firstborn look likeI'm starting to think you're a fake fan.
>>98252986
>>98254119I find it deliciously ironic that non-marine players went from complaining everyone plays space marines, to complaining how everyone hates primaris.It is fantastic, and makes a statement that no traditional argument could make.
>>98254134Who said it was?
>>98254146Personally I would reduce marines to a single page. There is no need to have more than that.
>>98254138>>98254149>I have pr*maris mostly because the kits I wanted have a random marine for some fucking reason.>Like the combat arena lair of the beast
>>98254149>>98254125Unless you mean you got primaris from another similar boxset.
>>98254146>>98254153>mentally ill marine haters do not exist, say the mentally ill marine haters
>whole army of ur-ghuls
>>98254162Anon this is from GW rules. It can be done.
>>98254162You retard, the point of my argument is that marine haters do exist, and they're the majority because primaris suck and they'll always suck.There are so many people that hate primaris, that you are losing your mind, and you think it's all the same anon like a schizo.
>>98254136The Rock arrives and a message is sent out by the Lion "Robute we need to talk" and he isn't there
>>98254157>Like the combat arena lair of the beast>There is absolutely no reason for the marine to be there.>marineUnless you consider primaris and marines to be the same thing, sure. I honestly doubt people consider them to be the same thing.
>>98254163power rangers ass paint scheme
>>98254083Devastation of Baal is pretty good though.
>>98254173The rock isn't in ultramarand guilliman isn't in ultramar
>>98254179It seems that someone used them to taste schemes.This on the other hand would be a power range scheme
>>98254169Even when I played marines back in the day, the amount of random codex they had always felt stupid.Specially when even back in the day we had things like >>98254153 and basically did the same thing.Worst case you had something like the eldar that had main eldar and special eldar for all the craftworld
>>98254169yes, you're a fucking retard, we know>the point of my argument is that marine haters do exist, and they're the majorityno, they don't. They're the most popular, successful, and loved faction in 40k by a long shot>because primaris suck and they'll always suck.2026 primaris are not the same as 2017 primaris, and not all primaris minis are the same. You'll know it if you weren't a mentally ill marine hater>There are so many people that hate primaris, No, there's just a small bunch of regular mentally ill retards shiposting here about them since years ago>and you think it's all the same anon like a schizo.You repeat again and again the same retarted talking points like the same NPC, only to out yourselves as xenofags oftenReal marinefags that dislike primaris jumped ship years ago.You're not fooling anybody with you fake consensus shit.
>>98254174>doubles downYou were wrong. Admit it and move on>I honestly doubt people consider them to be the same thing.Also wrong. Most people do not care about the difference. And GW has been erasing it with every edition.The continous shitposting here doesn't represent anything but the few mentally ill shitposters that do it.
>>98254202Marine apologist should be hang
>>98254202>2026 primaris are not the same as 2017 primarislollmaoyou got boiled in the pot and didn't even realise
>>98254202>yes, you're a fucking retard, we know [that marine haters do exist, and they're the majority because primaris suck]>No, there's just a small bunchWhy are you a disingenuous fag?
>>98254112>posting models is avatarfagging bruh the absolute state of /40kg/
>>98254125Better example for the spergs would be this one.
>>98254220>basic marines look like basic marinesoh what a surprise
>>98254202How many hours is your meltdown towards xenosfags/metafags/tourists/fakegrogs going to last this time?Have you saved enough necron images for your avatarfagging?Have you resolved your conflicting feelings regarding the inferiority of marinelets?Are you still going to argue about how nothing but marines sells by posting graphs that shows things other than marines selling?
>>98254236There has been more difference between the basic bitch models within 3 years than primaris have had difference between their basic bitch model in 10.Worst part this image is not even the best example of the changes between marine generations over the years.Primaris are a creatively a dead end.
>>98254190God thats actually so cool. Kinda wish deathwatch had more of their chapter colour than just one shoulder panel, What are those helmet?
>>98254236what about more elite marines units looking like their more regular version?
>>98254237hahahaha, you're the retard buttmad about Primaris marines being the main reason behind GW's revenue boom since 2017!Hilarious how you get triggered by necron images yet you pretend not to be a mentally ill eldarfag, lolYour moronic nonsense about "marinelets" are not going to work, tho. You don't know enough about marines to craft proper bait.
>>98254224Reddit is so much better, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
>>98254237oh jesus, that’s so funny. I thought “wow, that’s a bit of a reach even if he has similar opinions and writing style”, and then it turns out you got him dead to rights. most predictable poster here since the mutant.
>>98254253>confirms he's the same one anon behind all those shitposting streaksnot even that anon, but you must be absurdly stupid to identify yourself on all accusations in one swoop like that
>>98254244>1998 metal SMnext time try to do your homework instead of using images with bad infoSM aesthetics barely changed between 1998 and 2016. No, kits with extra ornamentation do not count. Primaris also have those now (Like the SW range), even if GW is in a 2nd ed. nostagia phase
>>98254237>>98254253If this isn't samefagging I don't know what it is, could we have a new lolcow?
>>98254266>>98254269I don't need to samefag like you, mentally ill eldarfag.Facts are self evident, your retarded shilling needs constant work to create the illusion of a consensus
>>98254253>>98254237You can't make this shit up
>>98254113I basically traced all the recesses with a very dark purple acrylic after thinning it down a lot. Using an oil wash would probably save a lot of time, I need to finally get around to buying a couple oil paints.>>98253986I just did and nothing happened :(
>>98254272>his image is not even the best example of the changesYes I know anon. Reason why I'm pointing to the 3 year difference. 2012 and 2015.
>>98254253>he got got
>>98254253>You don't know enough about marines to craft proper bait.You got baited into spilling your beans, retard.
>>98254282>I'm pointing to the 3 year difference. 2012 and 2015.the only significant difference was marine bases going from 25mm to 32mm.And the BA tacticals were very short lived outliers. They could only be found in the BA Start Collection boxes for most of their run (sadly)Primaris were samey for years, but since Indomitus and SM sub factions refreshes that's no longer the case unless one just builds them copying the box art. I have plenty of complains againt primaris, but that's not one.
So is Wrath of the Rock the best Dark Angels detachment right now?
>>98254301>being a disingenuous asshole
>>98254323>being butthurt when your factually wrong opinions are dismissed
>>98254272you must have some serious retardation to think marines haven't changed but primaris have changed.or that gw is in a 2nd ed nostalgia phase just for a cover artwork.
>>98254276hey anon, you claim to be a big oldfag who has an intimate knowledge of the behind the scenes plans for 40K since rogue trader, but you seem to never post your models, only advertisements for RT models, codices, and some necron reaction images. why is that?
>>98254337I give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was being a retard by focusing on random things from an image that I mention it was not a good one.But he clearly just being a disingenuous twat
>>98254237>>98254253That's it then, 90% of autistic arguments is just these two anons going back and forth.
>>98254337It seems that you have reading comprehension issuesThe point is that a) besides armour autism and scale, 40k space marine aesthetics have been similar for many years b) primaris started as samey, but now they're closer to old marines
>>98254358Totally the same.
