Previous: >>98251395Delve Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What's your most unique deck?
>>98260024All eminence commanders should have also had a downside or a deckbuilding constraint.
>>98260897I think this could have actually been a more compelling dynamic. Ur-Dragon requiring all creatures in your deck be dragons, for example, would have been an interesting drawback even if it's not particularly large.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98260897More erratas? Stop.
>>98260364>tqIdk man. It's all been done. Probably Diaochan control, mono G flyers, or Bart Lurrus (only because it sucks and is bad)
>>98260364>TQ: What's your most unique deck?All my custom cards. Even a new basic land type with a different mana symbol.
>>98258182
>>98261080Post it nigga
What's your favorite tribe?
>have an idea for a deck>best colors are witch maw>best commanders are partnerslop>likely tymna/ugxWhat do?
>>98261102NinjasMAKE NINJUTSU WORK FROM THE COMMAND ZONE YOU STUPID FAGGOTS
>>98260364>TQI couldn't really tell you, I guess It's my Falco Spara built for the FF Summons but idk if that's a popular idea with him
>>98261102Vampires, used to run the Blood Rites precon with Elenda as commander and a bunch of tribal vamps, but I modified the deck so much it ended up being a Teysa Aristocrat Life-Drain, I dropped off the Tribal aspect of the deck in favor of consistency.Although Im making a Mono Black Vito where it's mostly Vampires so I'm happy about that.I also made my 1st Elf deck with Perfect "Elf Feet Mommy" Morcant, damn elves grow fast.I also run a Human-Soldier deck with Caesar Legiom's Emperor. Now tha I think about it, almost all of my decks are tribal in some way.
>>98261139What's the idea?
>>98260897What drawbacks should each current Eminence commander have?
>>98261336Creature cards in your starting deck must be of their respective tribe.
>>98261271It's kind of a vague idea right now, but Spellseeker/Reanimator toolbox stuff with Archaeomancer/Ewit grindy engines. Spell+Etb toolbox thing with creatures and cards I like with enough room for interchangeable slots. Like Lively Dirge into Ewit, into Spellseeker+Viscera Seer, into Reanimate SS, get Ephemerate sounds fun to me.
Trying to play toph greatest earthbender bracket 2 with my friends, but they always swarm way too much and roo quickly. Any cards in grull to destroy the board and give me life that you can recommend?
>>98261406You just need to be outpacing them with land creatures. They have Vigilance. Maybe fogs.
>>98261417Thought about fogs as well. They dont ave vigilance tho
>>98261102As boring an answer it is, Dragons.I was unfortunately CURSED with the soul of a 14 year old japanese boy, so I love the stupid things. Thankfully there's a fuck of variety in how you want to build Dragons.dek so I'm rarely out of deck ideas to try out and the support stream is pretty constant.
>>98261420My bad getting confused with different land animation effects. In that case just keep flooding the board, assuming you're running plenty of ways to animate them. They are good blockers at least. Maybe add the other RG Toph and loop Constant Mists?
>>98261454Problem is one of my friends runs a dragon ureni deck so he just kill us on turn 5 through the air.
>>98261468How spiteful are you willing to be?
>>98261468G is known for its inability to deal with flyers
>>98261468May I present to you...
>>98261476>>98261544Maybe this is my only option...
They did my waifu dirty
>>98260364Is this guy any good in the meta?
>>98261656>the metaI don't know what your personal store looks like. Unless you are talking about cEDH
>>98261406You're playing the two all-gas colors. Give your lands trample and stop being a pussy and attack. Red's creature removal falls off a cliff and green's is total shit. Just attack.
Color identity should be removed. The color pie has stopped meaning anything at this point. Every color can do everything.
>>98261928Then why can't you get a gf?
>>98261984GOTTEM
>whoopsie!
>>98261928Color identity is really fun once you divorce it from the mechanics of the game.
I've thought about it and I don't think Poison belongs in EDH No matter what it just makes the game take half as long. At a lower power table the Poison deck wins twice as fast. At higher power tables the Poison deck loses twice as fast. There's just no way for it to be a fun addition to a table.
>>98262227I agree, but with that said, I still try.
>>98262227When poison is a consequence of combat it produces value in having blockers and an appreciable board state. Naturally that means that all the good infect decks don't bother with that, they slap poison on however they can and proliferate and double it the rest of the way.There might be a structural change that would make it work out; like scaling poison counters to half starting life so high life formats require more counters; but absent something like that the only real solution is to gentleman's agreement over it in the same way you'd deal with anything else with your friends.My Mill deck was running 'become superman' with paradise mantle, which meant I could spin up infinite mill like turn 3 if I got really lucky. I took it out of the deck; it didn't make the table more fun to say "I got it, everyone shuffle up".
>>98262227Poison is completely fine. Maybe just ban it from bracket 2 so the babies have their spot.
>Ron Spears diedF
>>98262334>bracketfag is wrongImagine my shock
>>98262337Saw thatF
>one of the last cards he drewBasedRIP
>>98261363>you tribal commanders have to be tribal!So nothing then.
>>98261928That's both patently false and not a good enough reason even if it were true.
>>98262541It's more of a drawback than many would imagine.
>>98262544I kinda prefer when the color pie was based entirely on vibes.
I'd like an interesting Vampire Commander that isn't this guy. Anyone have a recommendation?
>>98262541You haven't played with them I see
>>98262583There isn't one. Vampires have exactly one commander and WOTC absolutely refuses to release another.
>>98262583I like this one
>>98262583Best I can do.
>>98262633This card is red and yet you don't need red to play it.
>>98262583If you are looking for a vampire tribal commander, there isn't one because tribal isn't interesting.If you're just looking for a commander that happens to be a vampire, there are lots.
>>98262697That is how color identity works, yes.
>>98262701The card is mechanically red and yet you don't need red mana to cast it or pay optional costs in its triggered abilities.
>>98262701I remember wanting to build this guy ages ago because he looked cool. Never did.
>>98262709None of her abilities besides the last one. The one with red in it, is a red ability.
>>98260913“That’s an impressive prow, captain.”
>>98260913Too small
>>98261102S L I V E R S
>>98262758and also Myr
>>98262735And you don't need red mana for it.
>>98261102Rebels
>>98262583Just play him but more interesting
>>98262045
>>98261961
>>98261190
>fully proxy a deck to try to play cEDH for once>practice and agonize over the combo lines all week>finally on game night I get in a pod with a new crew>turn 1 i vampiric tutor and crack a fetch afterwardsI think i may be the dumbest gorilla nigger in the world
Two threads up, maybe we should make 2 more and get a real commander game going?
>>98263836I'd do it but I got myself banned doing something funny last week
>>98263836There were 4 threads up yesterday because shanty was having a meltie
>>98261102Homarid
>>98261928The more I play the more relevant I start to feel this is. It's almost like a bell curve meme.Left side Timmy wants to run all the cards.In the middle you have people that want to feel more defined by their commander and what the deck can't doAt the right you have people that notice how the game has warped around color identity with color pie "bends/expansions" such as Chaos Warp and Feed the Swarm being printed in response to how EDH at its strongest has warped into 4c decks because it's such a large advantage in a slow format that very few commanders can actually compensate for that advantage. Golos made this super pronounced where the commander can be super mediocre but the advantage of being able to freely shape your 99 is utterly enormous at every level compared to a slightly better commander at your niche.
>>98262698>Tribal isn't interestingNo Magic deck is interesting.
>>98264520There have been very interesting decks across magic's history, there are just no interesting commander decks.
>>98261984Because being white is strictly a disadvantage compared to being any other color.Gavin Kikey has been stealing literally everything from White and shoving it into blue ever since he took over design. Then the kike had the audacity to claim he’s going to fix the problems he himself is making. At least they can’t kike White in Premodern.
>>98264528Name one deck that isn't "I play my wincon then I win."
Which /edhg/ is the bracket 2 thread?
>>98264545My Azula is "I play my wincon and get then lose since I couldn't find my other piece"
>>98264793This one
>>98262827That is how hybrid mana has always worked, yes. If it had R/B in its casting cost instead of the ability, we would be in the same circumstance. If anything them restricting it to the one ability that has red flavor to it is very controlled and flavorful.
>>98264560None of them, sadly.
>>98265036Oh, okay. So then this is an orzhov card, right?
Why the fuck are there THREE /edhg/s? Why does /tg/ have such lazy fucking moderators?
>>98265233There were five yesterday.
>>98265233All of them seem dead
>simic deck has 6 lands turn 3 somehow>just keeps vomitting lands>do thing, draw card, play land>some cuck tries to remove something, eats a counter>i try to force of despair, heroic interventions>casts prologue to phyresis>proliferate X spell>winsWhat’s the point of literally spending 20-30 minutes on a turn 3-4 game where everyone has played 2 lands and maybe a mana rock, and you try to fit an infinite
>>98265263one for each colour, we're going to organise a FFA to determine the best colour soon
>>98265225It shouod be as far as I'm conserned, yes. I find the "it's reminder text!" explanation retarded. If you took away the keyword and wrote out the rules text, it would have the orzhov symbol in it, so it should be orzhov.
>>98265636No need, we already know the answer to this one. White is the best color thematically and blue is the best color mechanically.
>>98262583Unless your tribe says Dragons/Goblins/Merfolk/Elves, you're not getting nice stuff.
>>98265233Schizo jannietroll came back from wherever they were this last week.
>>98265659Good. Trinisphere should be a black card.
>>98265659>I'm retarded so everyone else should be forced to do things my way
>>98264426>r can be super mediocre bFree unconditional ramp and cheating out free cards is not mediocre you dumb fuck. The 5c just means he's painstakingly boring to build as well
>>982662805 mana for 1 land is a horrendous rate and similarly 2WUBRG for one use of bad Narset, Enlightened Master is similarly not impressive. What made him good was that his abilities did anything useful at all on top of him being 5c.
>>98266384Bad player rears s head againIt's one off sadbot for any land in the command zone into an ability you can repeat unlike narset with no restriction for playing lands off the flip either.
since I'm not seeing Wizards declaring total Marvel victory over MTG, I'm assuming that this set has not sold as well as FF
>>98266790>It's one off sadbot for any land in the command zoneSadbot is already not a card people run anymore, let alone sadbot that costs 1 more mana for Cascading Cataracts.
>>98266794Would it even matter if they told you that Marvel sold better than FF?
>>98266917I think they have a certain arrogance when it comes to pushing UB products that would be very deflated if a property like Marvel that is bigger than FF manages to do worse.
>>98266107>for exampleThis obviously doesn't count. If you removed the example the effect wouldn't change at all. Try that with Extort, it would not function.>>98266160Keywords are short hand for full abilities. If those full abilities contain mana costs, that is fuctionally what's printed on the card. If the card has mana symbols printed within its effects or cost, it should be part of its color identity. Explain why you think I'm wrong.
>>98266939Yes it would. The extort ability triggers, and I pay for it with white mana. No reminder text needed!
>>98266939AIEEEEE
>>98266958Please, write out how the ability works without writing white and black and/or orzhov. I'll wait.
>>98266992When I cast a spell, I pay for Extort it by tapping my Plains for mana.
>>98266978Writing "any color" would be the one exception, yeah, since you'd have to define each color. Honestly I would restrict this too, but I'm a cunt.
>>98267000No you don't. You tap your plains for white mana (or black) and use that mana to pay the cost.
>>98266958Why do you have to pay white (or black) mana? Why not pay green?
>>98267015>Ask for an explanation>Get given one>"Actually no that doesn't count"
>>98266794A casual look at the cards would be enough to tell you that. Marvel is merely "okay", its hero/villain tribal gimmick is extremely niche and uninteresting, and it has only a couple of strong cards that'll stand the test of time. Final Fantasy was a generically great set full of extremely good cards for a dozen+ popular deck archetypes and it didn't have a one off niche set gimmick. It's not going to be topped any time soon due to its mixture of popular characters+great design.
>>98267025>ask for an explanation (that makes sense)>get a retarded nonworking explanation
>>98267038>Be too retarded to understand explanation>Invent cope
>>98267025What you said was just straight bullshit, not how the rules work at all, so I don't know what you want me to say.
>>98267046>my explanation has no ground in reality>someone points it out>"uhh nooo you're just coooooopeing! Gottem!"You did it, anon. Good job.
>>98266929>a property like Marvel that is bigger than FFlol
>>98267064NTA but it is, 100%. Not bigger for people who enjoy fantasy card game, perhaps, but definitely a bigger brand.
>>98267060I accept your concession.
>>98267106I accept you're retarded.
I like this art but this feels like a very generic deck even if it seems like it'd be pretty good.
>>98260364OG Athreos + deathrender alonsigde creating a group sanctioned boardwipe merchant deck
>>98265659So does that mean that whether it is orzhov or not depends on the version I am using? There is no black symbol here.
>>98267064I mean this factually true and no I am not that guy. In profits alone FF isn't even in the fucking ballpark where as Marvel is like a top 3 most profitable IP in Human history.
>>98267211It's inherantly a part of the ability. If a card has extort, it SHOULD have white and black in its color identity. The keyword is shorthand for the ability, and thr ability has orvhov in it.
>>98267211>if you took away the keyword and wrote out the ability, it would have to have the orzhov symbol on the card>does that mean if it doesn't have reminder text it changes the color identity?!The reminder text being there or not does not matter. The ability itself inherantly has orzhov in it.
>>98267247Then we'd need to count reminder text as text for any effect at all.
WOTC should have just done the hybrid mana change to rip the bandaid off and bring EDH in line with other formats. Everybody is perfectly happy to shitpost and pretend to be stupid over the status quo, might as well give them something real to cry about.
>>98267255For keywords yes, we should, because they mean nothing by themselves.
>>98267290There's already plenty to cry about lmao
>>98267315based
>>98267315Guys what does this {1} on the card mean? I can't understand it without more pictures. It means nothing without rules explaining WUBRG can be used to pay it.
thoughts on building her as a white legendary best off deck?I watched a few youtube shorts and people say she sucks. I dont care about the power level but she seems fun. love commanders that can transform
>>98267414That's not close to the same and you know it.
>>98267420>Dude everyone is as stupid as me
>>98267416It really would just be goodstuff white legends. There's just nothing to really build around here outside of maybe creatures that benefit from being indestructible, but there really aren't many.
>>98267420Okay. How is it different? Both require a peripheral explaining which colors of mana can be used for them.
>>98267432>no argumentI did say just for keywords. Keywords are not in fact the same as not-keywords.
>>98267441Must be hard living with your diagnosis.
>>98267439Ones a keyword, the other is a basic function of the game. May as well tack explanations onto everything that says mana value, cast, and every other basic game mechanic that exists>inb4 jeywords are basic game interactionsThey aren't.
>>98267435yep true, but good stuff sounds cool to me. I also thought about Gandalf the white, which would mean you could abuse his ability with cards that have enter or leave triggers
>>98267450I'm diagnosed borderline autistic with an iq of 152. But that doesn't matter, you'll just call me a liar or make fun of me for it.Doesn't change that I'm right.
>>98267455Can you explain how a keyword is different from a "basic function"? Because by your logic both require consulting the rules for how they work.
>>98267463There are lots of good commander engines in white, yeah.
>>98267416I've been wanting to build her for a while but it quickly started looking expensive
>>98267468Bahahaha cute LARP tardanon.
>>98267477you dont have to include every single GC in your deck anon
>>98267497I wouldn't...it's just a lot of cards I don't have :(maybe I'll suck it off and just build the deck instead of waffling
>>98267498my last deck was mono blue and it was like 120€. I included 5 proxies that I thought were a bit too much for my budget. (phyrexian dreadnought was one of it)proxies are ok. I like real cards in foil much more but until know that the deck is gonna be fun, I will proxy some of the expensive cards
>>98267475Anon's nonfunctional brain doesn't understand all game rules are form serving function and is unironically one of the "I can see the broccoli" retards that lack basic conceptualization skills. (Compare, the breakfast experiment)
>>98267475Explaining casting and paying mana requires out of game explanations of basic fuctions. Casting means taking a card from your hand, paying the mana cost noted on the top right of the card, and putting the card onto the stack, turning it into a spell while on the stack.Paying mana means taking mana that is in your mana pool, an area that exists outside of the visual gameplay mechanics that holds all your mana until you use it, and usuong it, causing it to stop existing in you mana pool, equal to the cost, [explanation of each of the colors and their symbols]. That mana is generally added via tapping permanents, cards that exist on the battlefield, for mana.Vs keywords like extort when they really only refer to gameplay pieces and mechanics.
>>98261650>You have no maximum hand sizeLMAO, funny dudes
>>98261102Angels or humans. Gotta love the classics. Though I have a soft spot for giants
>>98261102Gnomes
>>98267416I have a monowhite Yoshimaru & Keleth legendary matters // devotion to white deck with her in it. She's fine as far as mono white draw engines go and her ability+indestructible can be really useful in the late game.
>>98262758>>98262763LITERALLY ME
>>98261102Monks.FUCK WARRIORS
>>98267572Heh I didn't really get the connection until now.
>>98261102Not sure I really have a favorite. Zombies, maybe? Solely because zombie tribal was my first deck.
>>98260364This guy is a lot of fun. 8/10 would recommend building.
>scute swarm player rolls entire table because nobody topdecks a boardwipeI LOVE GREENI LOVE LANDFALL
>>98268019Eh, if you've piled on enough counters to make it worth the 3 mana you should already have commander damage lethal, making the token spam pointless.
>>98268048>I LOVE GREEN>I LOVE LANDFALLSame brother, same.
>>98268078Give him vigilance and use the token spam as a way to cash out when he's inevitably gets hit by a swords or something.Have an Ezuri out when you do for big stonks.
>>98268078No? Because if you have enough tokens you could kill the table at once and not in 3 turnsUnless you're using genji glove?
>>98267512Except keywords also have their function defined in the rules, not reminder text. That's literally what ALL reminder text is. Otherwise people never would complain about keywords not having reminder text.
>>98268048>Player resolves wincon>Doesn't get removed>They winWTF???
>>98268150>one card win the game engines are okay because... because they just are, okay?????Kill yourself, greenfaggot
>>98268169>Wincons... win le game!?
>>98267512>Gameplay pieces and mechanics aren't part of the rules because... I'm retarded!Okay anon.
>still the best permanent removal spell in the gameHow do they do it?
>>98260913Do you have the Amelia one?
>>98268169AAAAAAA SAVE ME GAVIN
>>98268019He should cost at least 1 more and have vigilance so he can attack and dump ants if he gets targetted with removal.
>>98268147Hey look, they reminder text for the keyword only rfers to game pieces like I said. Whodda thunk it.
>>98268279BAN THIS FILTH
>>98268214Is this MLD?
>>98268368Probably would've been the case if he wasn't standard legal
sup bros sorry if this is newfag question I'm from /sp/if my creature says his power is X is anX is equal to highest mana value on my board; but i paid X for a big hydra - does that higher X hydra count?
>>98268458X by default is 0 everywhere but the stack.
>>98268476makes sense thanks bro
>>98268479no problem brounless you're a packers fan then fuck you
Hey lads. Bit late to the mtg scene after friends got me into it some weeks ago but I'm a big Tolkien fan and missed the boat on the LOTR set. My buds informed me that Hobbit set comes out in August which is right in line with my bday, would it be worth pooling some money to treat myself to a full box? Or would that be more for hard-core collectors
>>98268726Basic boxes aren't worth shit. Collectors are the only thing of value and they're like 50 dollars a pack.
>tfw only like commanders with blue in them
>>98268726If you just want the cards then go for it. I did it for Marvel. Just don't expect to make your money back unless you get lucky, like I did.
>>98268801There is no way this came from one box. No way.
>>98268747Collector boosters are shit value. The real hits are statistically one per box and rarely even pay for half of it.
>>98268590Steelers
>>98268810All boosters are shit value. The only possible way you are making money back with basic boxes is by opening a minimum of 3 mind stones.
>>98268806Sorry, yeah I didn't realize I posted the full pic. 2 mind stones and the special Jennifer was 1 box. The rest was a prerelease kit.
Question for you all. Except for landfall decks, is there any reason to run Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse?I recently listened to a mtggoldfish podcast, and one of them said there is never a reason to run them anymore. Most of my decks are dated (and have one of the other) and I am very casual in deckbuilding. So should I dump them and just replace with a basic?
>>98268890I only run them in 4+ color decks
>>98268890>man i wish i had a mountain
>>98268890If you are on a budget or for some reason 1 life is just too much to risk for your deck
When is the inevitable The Amazing Digital Circus lair?
>>98268890if you are running some kind of group slug strat that also lowers your own life total, or a really aggressive pay life strategy, or your playgroup has like at least one aggro guy per game.other than that yeah, they set up landfall nicely and they cost less but they are mostly just bad fetches. but I think "landfall" and "budget" are both legitimate use cases so I wouldn't go so far as to say there's "never a reason to run them anymore", that'll only be true if fetches go to $0.09 (lol)
>>98260364>Lands/Landfall is THE Meta strat>EDH Has a meta>EDH decks now play like combo decks from back in the day with sequencing/Flowcharts & set turns they want to win by>In EDH, the funny haha """Casual""" format>The only viable counter strategies are hyper aggro, Removal piles or heavy permission control. >MLD is Softbanned to a bracket where it cannot be viable against CEDH Wannabes/Washouts turbo combo piles.>Stax is unwrittenly softbanned, having massive negative social stigma if you dare to try and limit someones actions>"Let people """Do their thing""" (Their 'thing' is winning the game.)">Crossover slop abound, absurd powercreep abound.Why am i numb to this now?
>>98269001You clearly are not.
>>98269001Because people have been whining about everything you listed but UB since before 2011. It's hard to stay excited for the same fucking arguments.
>>98268890If you got spelunking in the command zone or similar nonsense you could do worse.I'd probably run it in an earthbending deck, cause it'd recur itself and get more than a single land value out of it.
>>98269001
Are equipment decks just inherently always voltron?
>>98268048I love this handy little number to avoid just such an issue
>>98269001>Stax is unwrittenly softbanned, having massive negative social stigma if you dare to try and limit someones actionsIt kind of depends on what kind. If it's hard "you can't play the game teehee" stax then yeah I'm not gonna play with you.I only get to play once a week for 4 hours. I'm not gonna sit in a game for 3 of them staring at cards I can't play because some guy made all my lands swamps when I'm playing boros.I'll wait a few turns and if it's still ongoing I'll scoop and find something else to do. I don't see why some people think this is so unreasonable.
>>98269238You'll never stop my token spam!
>>98265636No colorless thread?
Is it possible to make a Fire Lord Azula bracket 3?
>>98269296I think a lot of people that cry about not being allowed to play stax aren't being realistic about what their decks are doing. Running Augustin IV as pure stax tribal dragging out games forever is not any fun to deal with, but more than that its not advancing the game. If you're locking up the board or shutting it down, you had better be doing it in some way that wins you the game; otherwise you're just being a jackass and everyone at the table can see it.In short, if you're running propaganda or authority of the consuls or a bunch of other things to cover for your deck's weaknesses or slow the table some to iron out your wincon, that's fine; but if all your deck does is make everyone else's deck suck and you're not even winning off of it, you're just making the game less fun by being there.Things that go on this list:- Hard discard decks; everyone else at the table having no hand and waiting for you to grind out a slow combat damage win or fuss through your entire deck for a single combo is pain- "Mother May I Play the Game" oops all counterspells decks; you had better have a better gameplan than just 'nobody gets to stick anything ever'- "Boardwipe Tribal"; Reseting the board every turn is throwing away massive amounts of mana; if you're not knocking out players and winning on that, what the fuck are you even doing?
Looking at black lotus, what fakes should I get?
>>98269634What if I don't have every card to make whatever deck you want me to play and I just want to use one of those stax cards?
>>98261928None of those philosophers exist in Disco Elysium.
>>98269921>Can't read Many such cases. That picture doesn't say that they exist in that game
>>98269602Yes. You can make her whatever bracket you want. If you just go with pump spells and no flash enablers she's just B2.
>>98268726Packs of cards are for playing limited formats with, nothing else. If you want to draft with your buddies, feel free to buy booster boxes, otherwise you're better off just getting a precon and going to a prerelease event.
>>98268821Let's go, boys
>>98268890Niche cases that care about specific interactions. That's about it.
>>98269659Why ask here? It's not legal in this format.
>>98270298I meant the site, not the card.
>>98270287Impressive. Very nice.
>>98270147You don't need to understand them or remotely even know who they are beforehand to understand that game. If you can't you're the one that literally cannot read.
>>98268890Araumi wants all the fetchlands she can get because she needs stuff to fuel her activated ability.
Is there any commander that would let me larp as The Doorman from Deadlock?
>>98270831Closest i can think of would be trying to make a flicker commander like King Brago into voltron
>>98270831Gameplay wise? Some Dimir theft most likely
>>98270922>>98270980I was thinking a lot of suspend cards and single target exile effects to represent his ult alongside flicker/ can't be blocked abilities since I can fluff those as going through doors to get to the objective. I think it's a fun exercise anyway
>>98270831lemme know if you find one, i'm making some deadlock proxies for my frens
>>98271108That's a pretty cool proxy anon, I'm sure your buddy will dig it
Anyone running him, or played against? Is he fun?
>>98271193I just don't care about typical White/Black spell slinging effects enough to bother.
>>98271193So if you resolve monastery mentor you just take a 20 minute turn and win the game with this guy?
has anyone managed to make this work even in casual commander
>>98271240Copying doesn't count as a cast for MM
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>>98271279but i want to be a dinosaur not turn people into dinosaurs
>>98271108Whose the inevitable mina proxy mimicing?
>>98270179Guy A has her built the usual way where she just explodes when she gets the opportunity to move to Attacking Phase uncontested and has ended the game right out 2/3 times from there I've saved some removal for her and he got bummed out over not being able to play that round. IMO it seems really pushing the power level of the table since he takes like 15 minutes to resolve the game winning stack of bullshit on turn5/6 but he insists its still B3, so idk what to tell him. The vibes are off?
>>98271283TOO BAD
>>98271277So? It provides enough tokens by itself to copy every single sorcery and instant you cast.
>>98271292Ive got her on Olivia Voldaren so far. Comes out early and starts stacking her +1/+1 Love Bites The control swapping doesn't really fit Mina but then I dont really use that unless there's a super big threat to take care of
>>98271293Commanders like Azula, Tifa, etc are interaction checks. They can be brutal if they're allowed to go off unhindered but they can be shut down by 1 mana spells.If people aren't arch enemying them, if people aren't playing enough interaction, etc, that's on them. And of course, even if the table does, sometimes the stars align for one player and they have a terrific game and that's just the nature of the format. If someone is playing Azula and they're slinging Bulk Up and Fists of Flame and killing people, they're not a problem, that deck is more than fair. If someone chooses to play midrange or combo or pillowfort etc and they're getting killed too quick that's their choice to play those decks. There's been plenty of times my Azula and Tifa decks get absolutely shut down and do jack shit all game and that that's just the way the cookie crumbles, regardless of brackets.
>>98271318if i kill the kill on sight commander i just spent a card to not even put one opponent down a card.and with cards like Tifa, her gameplan (vomiting lands) is generating completely tangential value that i also have to deal with
>>98271318I usually have to be the one to save interaction for her after witnessing the absolute shenanigans she can doHe's only bricked the combo once which is pretty consistent for the deck I feel so I'm not giving him a freebie win if I can help it
Which mono-red cards have the most aura I'm gonna build a Joven deck for fun
>>98271309Evereth fits mina's golddigger datekiller mentality mechanically
>>98271033Sudpend only works if you are suspending the opponent's stuff. Looking through scryfall the only two cards that do that are Delay and Suspend. Delay is especially fun because you can use the French language edition for some good flavor.I think white works as the best option for a second color. Foretell/Plot work nicely as flavor for the doors/teleporting (and at a stretch even his first ability given the delay between setting the bell and hitting it). Bounce/Stun spells work nicely for his cart I think.Overall I would priroitize:Delay + Suspend as ways to give opponent's stuff suspend.Flickerwisp style 'flicker this at the beginning of the next end step' that can target opponent's stuffSeal or Removal/Cleansing/Aura of Silence/Act of Authority/Lunar Force as a 'put down a threat then pop it later' to simulate his bell.Bounce/Tapdown to simulate the cart.Plot/Foretell cards to simulate sending your stuff through portals/letting them come out instantly.Suspend stuff that lets you cast your stuff in advance to simulate portals.Elite Spellbinder and Airbending effects that delay/remove the casting of your opponent's stuff.That pretty much ensures a UW(x) identity. Probably esper If you're okay with UB The 11th Doctor makes things unblockable and lets you suspend stuff from hand.
>>98271504Hey, big thanks for the pointers anon, that actually gives me a ton to work with. I'm always big on flavor and then mechanics and all this seems to line up nicely to let me slide into my pod's tier 2-3 bracket
>>98271193you can double cast beseech the mirror to double cast two four-drops, like buried alive into two victimizes or something similarly devious. He also turns so many mediocre sorceries/instants into actually potent effects that he makes for a viable budget build. https://moxfield.com/decks/w1a_g8Ea_EKeKKiHd_83CQHe also turns dash hopes and temporal extortion into a black counterspell and time walk. fun/10
>>98271254No. But I've been meaning to build Auntie Blyte and this feels like it could be a neat inclusion.
>>98271891Oh wait, I just realized it was "source you control". Fuck.
>down to a 1v1>well, I had to spend a lot of resources to kill that other guy, and my strategy is life gain which this last player's enchantment shuts down>he probably has me if he just waits a few turns and->plays final fortune>takes extra turn>oh you got it anon>diesWhat the fuck
>>98271909he was sandbagging because he felt bad you've lost every game of the evening
Anybody want to help me cut 37 cardshttps://moxfield.com/decks/u3DJQt9400mHT3YUX86B8gIt started innocently enough. Iwamori plus torpor orb, so people dont get a free creature. Then I realized I've never played a stax deck, and I went nuts. I cut MLD because my brother bitches and moans. I also added deathtouch + fight to help account for the free creatures, but I feel like I've lost my way.
>>98271994this is beyond retarded, what's the point of the deck at all when torpor + iwamori is just a 6 mana 5/5?
>>98271420I made a proxy of Calli over Evereth because the deck revolves around sacking treasures (donations) and creatures (deadbeats) to her
>>98272015You should post the two cards you're asking about if you want us to answer if Ms. Marvel triggers off them.
>>98272015I hate that she sucks as a commander
Man, TMNT and Marvel have been fucking god sends for this deck
>>98272541I was actually thinking of building him due to how much support he got
>>98272725He is very fun. And as much as people may say "Oh, everyone will just discard" that isn't my experience at all. Many try to "call the bluff"Plus you add things that make it more painful to take the discard option.
>>98272752it's psychology yeahdiscard a card -> my problemEggman cheats in a robot -> everyone's problem
>>98272752>>98272816It's actually more game theory than psychology. You personally lose the most by discarding or paying other taxes. When you let them play or draw or whatever, it spreads the relative loss across two other players as well. It's optimal to do so until you can't.It's why a guy in seat 2 may well let seat 1 cast a gamewinning combo without counterspelling--by counterspelling, he has to spend mana and a card. But if he passes priority, then seats 3 and 4 have to instead now. It's a risk--they may not have the spell--but if they do, it's a huge gain for seat 2 to simply do nothing and force the later priorities to act instead.
what are some soulful and fun artifact commanders?
>>98270831?
>>98271277Right, but you're still making a token every cast.
>>98272028Some people like bad commanders anon. It's not a crime.
>>98260364>TQPic related, got any red or black cards themed around stealing creatures or taking peoples shit or getting treasure or gold. I call it "putting together a team", you use whatever you can cast to steal shit or just exile their gameplans while your team of hired thugs kick the shit out of everyone else.
>>98272541The devs are obsessed with artifacts. Every other set is going to have support for art creatures.
>>98273208They have to be one of three specific types.
>go to edit a deck of mine on moxfield>somehow it went up 300 dollars in value in the past three monthsWhat the fuck.
>>98260364>What's your most unique deck?Depends what you mean by unique. I guess Toymaker because no other commander plays anything like him? Build wise though every Toymaker deck is the same.
>>98269671In that case, you should steal a police man's gun and rob a convenience store while singing the slovokian national anthem.You know, while you're doing stupid shit just to try to piss people off, you may as well aim higher than pretending to be retarded over card games.
>>98272015I know what you are
>>98273613Someone that likes to draw cards?
>>98273613
>>98273628Flag on the moon. How did it get there?
>be me>decide to build new commander deck>Spend days crafting and honing deck on website>gather 70% of the deck through cards of my own collection and make price compromises with the cards I own vs cards I'd need to buy>Spend hours sorting and finding the cards through the six giant mountains of my unsorted collection>Order the rest of the cards on TCG>Be autistic about shipping and keep the prices down even more than the TCGplayer optimizer>Cards come in>TFW forgot to order the commander
>>98273755R.I.P.
Legit question, how the actual fuck this thing wins? i don't get ithttps://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=86725&d=858496&f=cEDH
>>98260364>TQ: What's your most unique deck?I have a Xantcha deck built entirely to ensure 1 person does not have a good time. It runs no creatures or ways to win the game. It is all just targeted "fuck you" cards with pic related being my favorite.
>>98274239springheart nantuko combos with nissa/provisioner/cobra using animated land
>>98274315and then what?
>>98261102Jellyfish.Except for the humanoid aylamos from EoE.
>>98274327well you have infinite landfall triggers so winning should be quite trivial, there's probably other shit you can pull off that I don't know about
>>98271994Iwamori sucks balls, but I love his art, so I play him. He wears a fucking censer as a necklace. This is the iwamori deck i play:https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/one-punch-iwamori-of-the-open-fist/While torpor orb is cool and worth including, I dont think going all in on stax makes sense. I also think people that go all-in on fight are not going to do well, as most people will drop large creatures. This list is a mix of both. Note that this does include some MLD by way of Hall of Gemstone, so tweak to taste.
>UB has taken over half of MtG>Now the other half is taken over by the Gay Bolas agendaIt's not fair bros.
You're the only one crying about GB in the OP. You're free to permanently whenever you want crybaby.
Very odd that there are multiple threads up and this one isn't getting mindlessly image spammed.
>>98276634Why would gay bolas anon spam his own beloved thread?
How many more months of multiple threads must I endure before this autist finally fucks off?
>>98276651Report the threads for spam, it usually works when we get multiple /40kg/s.
>>98268726You can crack packs for fun, but if you want the most bang for your buck ask for help building a deck(or learn to use edhrec and scryfall to build your own). Singles will simply get you what you want.
I like partner with because it lowkey lets you manipulate your deck if your opponent was pulling some shit and it always catches them by surprise
Monoblack Burnt Offering BInstantAs an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature.Firebend X, where X is the sacrificed creature’s mana value.
>>98276952Partner is the most pussy tier commander type to exist. It’s completely antithetical to the design premise.People using partner combos, specifically value engine partners entirely to get access to a color is the bitchiest, lamest, style of deck building there is.I just got out of a pod where they were whining that rhystic study and having to hold triggers hostage for draws is the main strategy in cedh.
>>98277003Rhystic is the only reason cedh is not 100% combo and is also the only reason why people can realistically play for a draw, though that has more to do with cedh allowing draws and not punishing them as the losses they really are
>>98277044*100% turbo* to clarify, as thoracle and co. are too good not to run
>>98277044One card holding up an entire archetype to the point a large section of many decks are dedicated to cloning it should explicitly indicate that it's not healthy design.
>>98277102nothing in cedh is "healthy", it's a poker game for nerds and is best played as suchironically it's not the cedh meta that gimps it but its TOs
>>98277003>partner is shit because it's good card + extra colorsRight, but for not-freaks, it's two fun cards interacting in a fun way.
>>98277127>2 cards interactingNo, they aren’t. You are picking value engines based on color pie staples to decide which of the same pool of 40 cards in each color to pick from.
>>98277134None of my decks are anything close to that.
>>98277003I said partner with not partner
>>98277044Which amuses me. This is what I don’t understand. There’s no skill really, neither deckbuilding nor execution. It’s actually something I can script in any code, concrete playlines. It’s a solved format. The only variables are what you draw, and unlike poker, the cards in your hand are used to reach said lines. The only bluffing comes down to guessing if someone else can deal with a problem, or you outright lose.It’s just so boring for ONE hand to be a protracted single game. I just don’t fucking get the point of cedh. Its the same cards, the same boring tutors and free spells. When I sit down to play a wild 2, I legitimately have no idea what to expect. Seeing actual, genuine bizarre card interactions brick gamestates, work arounds, odd loops, completely insane strategies.Example:>guy casts koh>exiles purhoros>another opponent board wipes with sephiroth emblem>the koh player kills nico minoru (gains the tap ability to discard, cast nonland off the top)>hits glen elendras answer in the cascade>changes back to purphoros >kills everyone with the 1/1s due to all of the blood artist triggers on the stack
>>98277134nobody complains about rograkh ardennall serious edh play - whether it's cedh or not - revolve around archetypes, with commander-centric combos being the exception
>>98277177>It’s a solved format. The only variables are what you draw, and unlike poker, the cards in your hand are used to reach said lines. The only bluffing comes down to guessing if someone else can deal with a problem, or you outright lose.you're essentially correct, which makes my point even more clear as the only way to make cedh "spicy" is to wager on it, which is actually very easy to do as cedh is so proxy friendly they'll allow 100% fakes
>>98277044I once watched a cEDH tournement, not one player payed the 1 the entire tourney
>>98277306I will never pay the 1, that's a problem for the other players
skip a turn or pay the 1
https://moxfield.com/decks/NTmBD4q9aUefethiNWi1Iwwhat's my wincon other than dopplegang on a desert?
>>98277902same as every green deck that goes wide: the humble Overrun
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>>98277902Cyberdrive awakener?
>>98278415>>98278568same energy
>>98268590Sports are for fags. Imagine making your main hobby and personality become looking at niggers wrastle some balls instead of collecting expensive pictures of niggers on cardboard.
>>98268991With a morphing Jax card that turns him into an abstraction and a tranny bow arcane signet? Could be neat, they already joked about how blatantly they're ready to milk their franchise with Fortnite so I could see it being an SLD within a year.
>>98279170Show was milked to shit way before fortnite. Have you entered a hot topic or spencers gifts lately?
>>98279217NTA but you have to be 18 to post here, so unless anons are ~35+ with kids they almost certainly have not.
any commander that lets me play as a gun slinging spider?
>>98280300I dont think so, no.There is an ooze tho
>>98280300>use a legendary creature with a gun in its art>equip spider-suit to it>tada, gun slinging spider
>>98276634>>98276639Are you blind? Try looking at this thread again
For some reason there's no spider villains>>98280300https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=t%3Aspider%20t%3Ahero%20t%3Alegend&advanced=
