Summer Preview Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98246069>Thread Question(s):Hopes & expectations for the preview? After the show has ended, have those same hopes & expectations been met?
More than just a chaos dragon and/or cursed ettin. I will be disappointed if it's just 1 thing after this long of a wait.
>>98264491>TQi just expect new Chaos models and showing the new rulebook maybe a tease for future stuffi don't have anything for Bloodbowl
>>98264491I want new gobbos
Probably still too soon for kislev huh
>>98264514new chaos dragon and new chaos warriors recycled from AOS
>>98264557Didn't AoS just recently get new Warriors?
>>98264556Complete speculation but I think they will wait until the next edition to launch Kislev. It’s going to be a huge release and I imagine it would get a lot of people into TOW who are waiting specifically for Kislev. So probably smarter in their minds to wait for the next edition.
>>982645684 years ago.
>Imma take the this 1000 point lord on a dragon even though I'm already super outnumbered and eliteGod, Chaos Warriors really are the Timmy faction aren't they? Just total catnip for people who can't see any strategy beyond trying to get as many attacks on their leader as possible.
>>98264612wish I had money to pay russian prostitutes to cosplay with me
It's time
>>98264612high elves do the same thingarguably even more so, because they're less limited by the 25% points cost single unit restrictionalso, MTGfag go and stay go, leave your accursed and gay terminology in the pig pen from whence you came
>>98264612You’re playing 4000 point games?
>>98264654vgh... chaos fatigue is real
>>98264612>Complains about Dragon spamming Timmys.>Posts High Elves.
>>98264672At least we're in the show
Gimme the fooking reveals already
>>98264654CHAOS UNDEFEATED NUMBER 1 IN THE WORLD
JUST GET TO THE REVEALS!FUCK ME!
Link ?
A new regiment, fit to plague the world, is born!Right on time for the show, too.
>starting with immediate spess muhreen wankWhat a surprise
>>98264774Kino, name of the lads?
>>98264798they were originally going to be called The Atom Smashers, back when I had an entirely different design for their banner in mind. I see no reason to change that name now.
>they're bringing back painting starter setsHow nice, that's how I started getting into warhammer all those years ago.
>>98264568twice, actually. Once in 2019 and then again in 2023
>fucking prepainted modelsIts over
>>98264853Finally, now I can WAAC in style and without being judged!
I hope you guys like chaos and cathay!
Warriors look good
SEX
I do not like these new chaos models.
>>98265039im not so sure
UH OHTHEY'RE SEXY
>Warriors>Lancers>A gate master/keeper>CannonWow, half of it is useless, thanks
KINO KINO KINO KINO
>>98265043Oh fuck these boys look so CHUNKY
>>98265043Surprisingly 5e vibes. But I dig it.
>>98265037Dragons are amazing. Everything else whatever.
>>98265082You beat me to it, I recognised those helmets immediately
>entire WoC refresh looking good>EXCEPT the basic footslogger WoC armourHas GW taken every single sculptor who knew how armour works and taken them out back? Same story as the Bret foot knights.
oh god that BSB is SeXO
>>98265043They would look a lot nicer if they had painted them in more contrasting colours. The trim is cool, why would they make it look so understated?
>>98265043Too boxy for me, but overall not too bad.
The new chaos champion looks sexy, Also that dragon is very cool.
swerve southern faggots
FINALLY, I CAN PLAY MY HECKING AOS MONSTER IN OLD WORLD!!!
So the rulebook comes with Battle March rules which make sense
>>98265043fat
>>98265121I hate that model so much.
>>98265121Anon they already have rules for chaos dragons.
That dragon lord is going to look wacky next to Galrauch
Well, they got me.
>>98265043What the were the designers thinking
>>98265121Gr8 b8
The chaos sorcerer looks sick. I love the more "twisted normal dude" vibe. Its a nice break from the very "clean" chaos dudes in fantasy power armor look im used to.
>>98265043They look slike cheap rubber toys, jsut like the bretonian foot knights
>>98265043absolutely soulless shields
>No new Cathay dragon-children
>>98265043not enough variety and the shields suck
>>98265132>>98265136>>98265147I LOVE MY SLOP. DONT YOU DARE CALL OUT MY SLOP AS SLOP. LET ME BUY NEW CHAOS WARRIORS
>>98265037>>98265043>>98265110They look redesigned to look good next to pic related, which I now take for granted will come alongside kislev
>>98265037>>98265043I like that they didn't go too wild with redesigns or trying to be dynamic. I'll have to add the characters to my existing collection.
>>98265169What the fuck are you on about retard.
>>98265110A-Achievable natty?
There's gonna be so fucking many second hand Cathay miniatures lmao
Will Battle March ruin this game?
The new chaos honses look cool, I know a lot of people hate it, but I always liked their uber-steroid plough horse look
Time to cough up for another book
Battle march is going to be really popular in my group of old fucks with less free time
>>98265037The lord on the dragon looks very sexy.
I'm surprised they stuck the older Chaos Sorcerer in the WoC Battle March box
They've still got an assload of those sorcerors to get rid of I guess
>>98265192>AoStier GHB cancerFucking grim.
>>98265178Dragon is aos slop, chaos warriors arent spikey and are very round. the nu warriors look like chaos bretonnians rather than actual chaos warriors.
>>98265208They got to move stock.
>>98265209So that's where all the cathay ballalions went.
>>98265204Kek
>>98265192>>98265211It's over...
>>98265049Are you gay or something?
>>98265212>Dragon is aos slopThe dragon is a chaos dragon. That thing they have had since fucking 4th edition.
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/6ypk8cdw/the-big-summer-preview-chaos-arrives-in-the-old-world/
>>98265043kek, cities of sigmar looking shields
I think I'm going to get into TOW with the starter box
>>98265192Why? What does this one provide?
>Dragon is aos slopBait used to be believable, etc.
>>98265218low test can't cope with thicc boys
>>98265037Eyeballing size, they don't look like they'll drown old stuff out too badly.
>>98265219i know, retard. i am talking pose and design are nearly 1-1 the aos abomination i posted instead of a unique and interesting pose.
>Chaos player and all the books he needs to play
wonder if people will kitbasah those new Bloodbowl models for TOW
>>98265192
where the fuck is the narrative even going? Isn't the whole point of the Great War that Magnus anticipates an invasion and forces the Empire to unite? Seems like that won't be necessary if chaos has already fucked everyone, surely the Empire would already unite at that point?
>Chaos gets sucked off againThey really don't give a fuck about this game lmao
>hate the game and don't want to play>love the new chaos models
Jesus christ what fucking base size are the new warriors on?40x40?
>>98265218No, it's mostly because they were painted wrong. The trim is nice, why did they go with such a low contract colour scheme? Also, they tried to go back to the 5th edition aesthetic, but they gave up halfway through. I already have a chaos army. I love chaos warriors. These ones don't do it for me. Chaos warriors are supposed to be chaos warriors, not barbarians.
>>98265209Already own all those Cathay figures. What a useless box.>TOW's own spearhead God damnit.
>>98265240Are you blind or just retarded?
>>98265256>>98265257The duality of anon
>>98265250Looking great for Mordheim, especially if the armour plates are separate.
TOW has way more dragon models than AoS.
>>98265262They didn't talk about Cathay for a moment, it was obvious this was the chaos show
>let me use my strong hand
>>98265264apparently you are
Some big fucken lances
I want Lizardmen, but at the moment only Seraphon from AoS remain updated, and buying old minis kinda irks me while other factions get upgraded. When will GW release & update Lizardmen for ToW?
>>98265289When the AoS team and the TOW team stop having their internal standoffs
>>98265287The insistence on painting chaos models in metallic colours is going to backfire. They had the tried and true black and gold colour scheme down pat since time immemorial, why do they keep fucking it up? High contrast, man! That's how you're supposed to paint chaos models! The sculpts themselves are fine. Great, even. But they look like ass when they're painted like this!
>>98265287>shrinkflation
>>98265287they look even heavier than the old ones. I like itI hope they will update the statlines of the warriors since they suck
>>98265262I think they literally mentioned Cathay twice in that entire preview.
Still think there's good odds of Warhammer Siege coming back in a while.
Curious to see how all these lads look painted in something other than fucking chrome.
>>98265289Wait for them to update the rest of the range in AoS, then add 6 months
>>98265289don't count on lizards get recasts or get aos ones
>>98265287Kislev lances better be way bigger
>>98265327That was a rumour, so i woulden't be surprised
>>98265287Probably slightly prefer the AoS knights over these guys and slightly prefer the TOW new warriors over the AoS ones. Should be easy to put them together if you want those. These dudes are just a bit too chunky.>>98265330Those champions look so fucking good. I hope they do come with lots of bits as they said.
>>98265330you weak southern boys may not like it, but this is what PEAK performance looks like
>>98265258>changing the base sizes again.fuck me dude.
>>98265259>Chaos warriors are supposed to be chaos warriors, not barbarians.Which they are. Look at that pic and tell me with a straight face that they look bad. >>98265043These Chaos Warriors are peak chaos! Better than everything we had so far, including the AoS versions with their more dynamic poses.
>>98265330Why are you so lazy? Its one sentence to your favorite AI tool
HYYYPE
>>98265330fuck they are so sexy.that's it i'm starting a chaos warrior army
>>98265425This 100%. The Marauders were tempting me already, but now its decided.
>>98265425A lot of people are. I guess Chaos at the SM faction of TOW.
Time to find some cathay player to split that box with me, but I'm pretty sure everyone else in my scene is going to be doing the same.
>>98265037>>98265264the dragons don't look too mutated, it should be easy to turn them into dragons for other factions
>>98265314>>98265330I've thought of trying to do chaos warriors as Sons of Horus. Teal armor, burgundy/dark-red cloth, etc. I actually do like the heavy metal look of generic undivided guys though. I'd probably mix in some brass trim etc though.
>>98265425Brother no, don't fall to the temptation of Chaos. We have knights at home.
>>98265280That's funny, that's real funny, let me give you a "hand."*starts clapping*
>>98265465Cathay stuff is gonna be dirt cheap on the secondary market because of this box.
>>98265330They really need to do more vibrant paintjobs. Those muted colours do not do them justice.
>>98265465as a cathay player, the problem with that box is its all battalion stuff ive already got
>>98265502Yeah. Shame I have no interest in them at all.
Ogres in less than 6 months, top.
>AoS gets 6th ed style Chaos Warriors>TOW gets 5th ed style Chaos WarriorsI'm not sure how I feel about this.I like the new models, but I grew up on those 6th ed Chaos Warriors, and I will always love them.
>>98264491Very cool. Ogre batallion. Might consider for a quick side project. Looks like pretty standard ogres. I like them.
>>98265471too late; i'm gonna paint them like in dark omen
>>98265509Looks like a dull metallic purple will work, which means I can get a decent banner bearer for my Cult of Pleasure list.
>>98265543Well, if you like them so much, you certainly have like 80+ of them, right? If not, NOW is the time to buy them. They wont get any cheaper.
New Cathay Ogres look good ngl
That Tyrant looks like a beast jew
>>98265043I'm excited to consume primaris chaos warriors.
They look really really good when not painted in chrome imo, the chrome washes out the details.
in my opinion, the art that reflects the new chaos warriors the most?
>every warhammer general always has the exact same shill posts when a big reveal happens>photoshoop fag always shows up to show how cool they are in different colorsreally makes you think
>>98265592>>98265509>>98265406Get this slop outta here
>>98265599Yea, that one. Very much the vibe.
>>98265559Like those?Ok, last slop from me about these miniatures. I think its pretty clear that they look better in any color you could pick. I really do not understand why they went with "lets paint them super boring" paintjobs there. Maybe as a contrast to the more colourful Cathay?
>>98265592AI is the devil, but this illustrates the point very well. Contrasting colours, that's the secret to making chaos models look good.
>>98265592can I request a dulled silver, with red cloth elements?
Now do one with his dick out
>>98265606I think its pretty much needed, to see those miniatures properly painted. They look just better on the generated pictures.
>>98265599Beautiful art.
Classic scheme WoC
Both boxes give you 4 chaos knights and 8-24 chaos warriors, why? Are we going to get 8 chaos knights and 16 chaos warriors in their individual boxes?
>>98265645the shoulderpads are too distracting.
>>9826564510/10. These models are great.
>>98265471you vs. the knights she tells you not to worry about
>>98265645KEEEEENOOOH
The 5th edition aesthetic has been vindicated. I always said the SoC design change was a mistake. A beautiful mistake, to be sure, but a mistake nevertheless.I'll still be collecting the actual models from 1997, but this is nice.
>>98265645It would be nice with a few helmets without horns or horizontal horns like the old kit
>>98265645>actually painting the eyes on these
>>98265673Pretty sure there are more head options than what we saw so far, but yes. Lets hope they include those too.
>>98265673I can totally see myself switching helmets for the old models so long as the proportions are not too off, but the 5th fans can have their win today.
>>98265680Agreed, chaos visors should always remain dark
That was ass>Battle MarchThe mode sucks complete shit, why is it getting any focus?
fuck yes, old school mixed chaos forces are back >A new Army of Infamy where you can combine the Warriors of Chaos with the Beastman Brayherds>You can also create your own custom Champions of Chaos and Brayherd Chieftains to lead your forces.
Will they update the bret and tk starter sets with the new rule book?
i'll just use the new chaos warriors as chosen, they look sick enough to pull the role
>>98265717I think it's fun. And almost necessary for getting new people in. BM boxes are a good idea, but it'll come down to how they're priced.
>>98265720My 6th ed army finally returns.
>>98265720You win this one james, ill buy your book.
>>98265720It seems like, i really have to start this game
>>98265720>Hordes of chaos are backHell yeah
>>98265645
>>98265717I’ll bet it’s because the combat patrol/spearhead boxes are doing big numbers and they want a version of that for fantasy.
Don't suppose they're giving warriors their full plate backBecause if there was any attempt to send the impression that these guys are NOT wearing 'full plate' armor, then they failed miserably
>>98265667I hear you bro, the 5th ed chaos warriors were the first models I ever got and I've always had a spot spot for them
>>98265720Article here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/6ypk8cdw/the-big-summer-preview-chaos-arrives-in-the-old-world/
>>98265717Its not shit? Wtf. It plays nicely.
>>98265779Yeah it's hilarious they wear heavy armor only.
>>98265767>*WINK WINK*What does he know?
>>98265779They did say they have the heaviest armour possible, but who knows if they'll put that in the rules.
>>98265720Fuck as a beastchad I may have to buy some WoC
>>98265795He just farted and the other lads are fighting over who did it.
>>98265511yeah, I think I only care for the jade warriors.
>>98265784What i dislike: There seems to be only one banner/icon in the chaos warriors sprue.
>>98265818>GW sees all the beastfags in this thread>Get's a devilish ideaAt last I truly see
>>98265779They probably will, the new Marauders got new and better rules with their models.
>>98265720I don't want furry faggot shit in my chaos army, I want chaos god themed armies with warriors and demons.
I hope the AJ adds a chaos horde unit that combines warriors and marauders like how the beastmen have the gor unit
>>98265842Beasts are love, beasts are life!
>>98265824It should be easy to kitnash the actual banner
>>98265876These really dont look much better when they arent in their iron fist scheme.
>>98265876do pastel pink, blue and white
>>98265896They really do look a lot better in my opinion.
>>98265911if you say so, they look too busy. also these are probably the worst helmets I've seen put out for chaos. I hope the unarmored heads look alright.
RIP mournefang cavalry?
>>98265937Swapping helmets is not a big deal, and are they really more busy than the old ones? Chaos models always had a tad bit too much detail on them. I think the new poses are a lot more impactful, because the horses aren't running
Damn Old World is so back, I thought we'd just get the dragon for sure.
>>98265784interesting line here> As well as the new miniatures, the Warriors of Chaos are getting a new Arcane Journal. This supplement opens up new ways to use your Marauders, Warriors, and Knights as you spread ruin across war-torn Westerland and towards the border with Osterlund.>new ways to use your Marauders, Warriors, and Knightswhat is this hinting at? new rules maybe?
>>98265720>custom beastman chieftain Aw yeah, beastwomen leader incoming!
>>98265204>CAM ON CHOYSEN*BANG BANG*>SMASH SUM SOUFEN POOFTAS
They added Cathay shield to the "force of good" side, but which faction does the new shield on the "evil" side belong to ?
>>98266006maybe >>98265873 ?
>>98266014Norsca? It has 8 spokes and is round like a viking shield.
>>98266014Ogres? AoS got new ones, so the old fantasy models might make a comeback here?
>>98265975the detail on the old models felt more isolated imo which kinda made it a tiny bit easier, at least for my reptile brain. Its kinda more spread out on the new models.
>>98266014It's a Chaos Marauder shield.
>>98265818>>98266008Also means we'll have a decent heavy infantry for a change.
I feel like it's kind of weird to make Cathay the other part of the box. It's perfectly timed so that everybody who was interested in Cathay probably already got them. Or maybe they're hoping to get new people? I don't know, I can see there being a lot of people interested in just the WoC.
So that's Ogres and VCs with an almost complete new range for AoS. DElves are probably next.
Elves
>>98266014very obviously marauders
>>98266014>Miao Ying is the new face of WarhammerFAVORITE!
>>98265720>>You can also create your own custom Champions of Chaos and Brayherd Chieftains to lead your forces.Let's fuckken go!my goats be feasting for all the fun narratives I can make with that>https://files.catbox.moe/wmdj91.mp4
>Another book building to Frydaal vs Miao Ying.Will we finally get the sexy bdsm showdown?
And you thought chaos space marine trim was a slog to paint
>>98266051It's because it's the only good guy army that doesn't look like shit
>>98266118>hero level character vs faction head dragon lordThe most exciting showdown since "the primarch faces off with some chaos lord with no model"
>>98266118it's all leading up to the "battle in the mud". They are interrupted by the sudden appearance of Valkia (new model) jumping in alongside new daemonettes (new daemon arcane journal).The magic around them is so powerful it liquefies their clothes and a sudden rage takes over them as they compare the size of their boobs
>Still no plastic Enchantress
The only question I have, are the nu knights sculpted onto the horses? This is the only the question that matters, same question goes for the dragon kit too.
>>98264491On the one hand, kinda lame they just did more Cathay & Chaos warriors slop, on the other hand I'm glad they're staying the fuck away from legacy factions a bit longer because they'd just fuck up Val's rules.
>>98265110Head's too small
>>98266081understandable. its not like the other "good" factions have any likeable characters.
>>98265720>>You can also create your own custom Champions of Chaos and Brayherd Chieftains to lead your forces.Wasn't this always the case?Why do you need permission to do something you could already do?
>>98266151
>>98266014Wow, so this means the Norse are officially back to being an independent faction?That hasn't happened since 4th edition.
>>98266150Hey now I liked Son of the Forest
>>98266204To be real honest. My gut tells me they are not going to expand the legacy factions at all. I think they are going to stay shelved for good. Maybe it’s for the better. I would love to play Lizardmen and Val’s rules are great. I think they need something still to really customize the army. Like sacred spawnings and other things.
I really wonder how this new arcane journal is going to shake out. Will there be rules for using a herdstone with WoC? The line about >new rules for your wizards to manipulate the winds of magic made me think of that Maybe trying the mixed unit thing again, with marauders/warriors (or even gors/marauders)?
>>98266253Im guessing they mean things that are like mutations, but are instead army wide modifiers. Maybe something like all core get MR 1 cause you're Tzeentchian or unbreakable ungors cause your nurgle. Sort of like the marauders upgrades, but at a boss level. Hopefully get a choice of like, 20 options to mix and match.
>>98266295>Wow, so this means the Norse are officially back to being an independent faction?No, it's there for symmetry.
>>98266299I never had hope for lizardmen since GW is so fucking enamoured with seraphon, but I do find it kinda bullshit that Ogre Kingdoms are following the same fate. TOW really wants to push Cathay, but the neighbours on their entire western borders are getting wiped out of existence.
>>98266331I think anyone holding onto hope for legacy factions to be brought into the fold should just forget about it. Best case scenario is after a total refresh of existing armies and then STILL a fools hope that they come back. Shame really.
So is Cathay replacing the empire as the main protagonist?
What the fuck happened to ogreHoly shit they all look like mongoloids, honestly disgusting
>>98266378Obviously not
>>98266331Aos needs an interesting destruction race, please understand.
>>98266378I would expect a similar refresh for Empire before they do a great war campaign.
>>98266387Well GW has been giving them far more attention than to the empire.
>>98266351>I think anyone holding onto hope for legacy factions to be brought into the fold should just forget about it. That's honestly the best thing GW can do for this game, because it just means the community will continue to collectively tell the rules/marketing team to fuck off & write the rules for legacy factions themselves, keeping it a fan regulated game rather than competitive tryhard sloppa like 40k
>>98266331Oddly the new ogre mounts were mentioned to be "effectively replacing mournfangs" on the stream. I think there's been a wider trend of aos technically squatting a unit only to introduce a """new""" unit that's very obviously meant to be its replacement. Barrow guard/knights instead of grave guard and black knights, spawn of sotek instead of salamnder, aggradon instead of cold ones... could point to something.Idk, I wouldn't give up hope yet. and I say this as an aosfag
>>98266299>>98266331I mean they literally announced a complete Ogre range refresh with a new look. This frees up all of the old sculpts for TOW easy. I think it's more of a timing problem, re-releasing 20 year old models isn't very glamorous at all and I imagine pretty much every single other GW release gets priority.
>>98266052hoping they'll do a few new kits for ogres, since iirc they said the beastclaw stuff was staying AOS and the teased big unit might mean a replacement for the mammoth kits?Or not lol, though at the least ogres need the some of least retcons to add to TOW
>>98266430The problem is that the new ogres effectively kinda cannabalizes (heh) the older ogre range. You’re also gonna have to deal with an ample amount of older ogre kits in the market, and that’s before getting into the fact that people will resell the older kits which will congest gw to sell them for a looooong while.
>>98266411I just want an updated model range for Lizardmen that rank up. The saurus warriors and temple guard are old. The new ones I hear struggle to rank up. The stegadon is too small for what it is. Arguably that’s all we need. New saurus, new stegadon, maybe salamander and razordon. Skinks a maybe. Won’t get that with no new Lizardmen. Just Seraphon tm (Lizardmen). I’m dooming hard bois.
>>98266378Already happened.Get ready for Warhammer Warriors tie-in game.
>>98266351Honestly, if they can create enough design space where chaos can heavy similar but distinct kits in both systems, I’m not that worried about it desu
>>98266378Did bretonnia replace them originally?
>>98266461holy kino
>>98266430I don't think the new look is that big a departure from the old one.
>>98266378Clearly not, as both TOWRP and 5th ed. WFRP are set in the Empire.
I AM BACK ON THE CHSOS TRAIN! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
I have some FW infernal guard kicking around. Any suggestions for prints or kitbashes to give them great weapons?
>>98266014>no dark elf shield
I just don't like the excessive trim on helms tbhon
>>98266584They're a callback to 5th edition, they get a pass in my eyes
>Just bought lots of Chaos Warriors and Knights from the Spearhead magFuck me, I guess I'll use these as chosen instead depending on the scale
>>98266588Ahh I see it. Wonderful.
Did they remove the weapon options for the Nu warriors
>>98266645i can't see any images of them with great weapons or halberds so I would assume so, or GW is going to release those after on a plastic upgrade sprue
>>98265105I guess they don't want to scare away the average buyer/player who can't be bothered to paint more than 10% of their total collection
>>98266657>or GW is going to release those after on a plastic upgrade sprueProbably this, given thats how it is for the SoC warriors.
>>98266378Next books is still Chaos invading Westerland, so Chaos vs Miao army and Empire (Marienburg).
>>98265185That's great news. An healthy secondary market whit prices depressed by new supplies is really good for players, both old and new
I've already got the full battalion box painted up and the new Marauder models, so I might just go for the Champions instead.I'm surprised the new box is coming with the old Sorceror model. They must have a ton of them lying around.
>>98266706There was probably a ton of unsold AoS stock when those got changed last year
>>98265043>>98265037>CAD Warriors lmfaoooo
>>98265037Okay I really don’t like the pose seeing two dragons side by side now.
>>98266775Yeah they were like 'you can run 2' and uh, not really.
>>98265314>Black and gold schemeChaos Warriors are want to be colourful and garish to look at. The black scheme is 5e faggotry peddled by wokemas pirinen
Kind of sad that the Chaos Dragon doesn't come with options to make it Galrauch and more mutated.I like how it looks, but I wish it had the split head option and bits to make it look far more mutated.
>>98265425The goyim are biting, everything is going just as planned.
WOLVES OF THE SEA CHADSWE'RE A MAIN ARMY NOW
>New Ogres gut-plate cover chest making it impossible to tell whether they are male or female.
>>98265645Unreadable silhouette
>gw bringing up that the kits are kitbashableHobbychads we are SO back
>>98266885>kitbashingIts called being interchangeable or modularity .
>>98266846Black and gold pop and do look pretty garish.I'm more of a Tzeentch man myself, so I look forward to painting them some sort of turquoise.
>>98266889Which if you’ve been paying attention to 40k and AoS releases you’ll know that they have been pushing monopose heavily with no kitbashability
>>98266881They're all guys.The big problem is that some of the models have Gutplates that don't protect their guts, which is the entire point of the armour.
I like the new ogres. God, I love big scary cannibals. Might try to fit a unit into a Orc and Goblin or Vampire Counts army somehow. Maybe not a whole box, but I could want at least one of them for a Mordheim bodyguard. Say what you will but the poses and proportions are just about right in my estimation... The new helmets on the armored ones are kind of out there but they seem totally optional. Don't like the cavalry much, but I've never liked Ogre Cavalry since the last big release during 8th. But those infantry, dripping with guts and cleavers, are pretty neat. Very Texas Chainsaw Massacre, very Death Metal.
>>98266706I hope every every army eventually gets a plastic 2 hero set with BSB option. >>98266881Being obese does fuck with your sex hormones. That's why so many American girls have facial hair and many of the guys have breasts.
Laughing at months of shitposter/historical spam effort gone to complete waste. Bravo GW. Eat shit manlet.
>>98267017>I hope every every army eventually gets a plastic 2 hero set with BSB optionAlmost all of them have one already, I think the only ones that are missing are Wood elves, beastmen and Dwarfs(if we don't count the Shield bearer model), and beastmen/dwarfs don't really have traditional cavalry options
>make ogres Chinese now>because they're stuck in age of retard, have Cathay fight Chaos instead
>>98267041im less upset that cathay is fighting chaos, but rather that cathay isnt fighting tzeentch flavored chaos.
>>98267050Cathay is fighting generic chaos because they are an expeditionary force fighting incursions in the old world. When Chian Chi (Tzeentch for you Gweilo) battles Cathay it will be in Cathay proper.
The new AJ is going to have arcane ploys added as a mechanic, I wonder what the fudge that means
>>98266967They're pretty gnarly aren't they?I guess in the same way that the end times/launch aos dree heavily on warcraft, current gw seems to lean on fromsoft-esque designs.
>>98267039Orc one needs a replacement. Really outdated.
>>98267069If I had to guess, it spell you cast in secret before the game and then play them during the game when it suits you, or if your opponent does certain things
>>98266967I think the gutplates and a lot of the heads look like shit, even if there are some other things I like. Too much work to make them look good for old world, same as the new chaos dwarfs. Might as well sculpt entire minis.
I don't like any of those reveals
>>98267082not happening anytime soon, as they show up on the Battle March book cover along with the Empire Greatsword captain
>>98267087Yeah, maybe they’ll be spells you cast in secret like trap cards. Maybe multiple tiers ( lesser, middling, greater ploys ) that all cast at the same cast value within the same “ tier “ of ploy. But you keep the actual ploy hidden from your opponent until it comes time for it to affect them.
>>98267069I just want to go back to 2D6 winds of magic rolls and a scroll caddy with a couple dispel scrolls being a viable choice.
LAY OFF THE RICE, CHINAMAN.
>>98267094Agreed. The gutplates genuinely look terrible.
>>98267119Another place where chaos warriors can get their asses beat by men half their height.
>>98267096Shout it, diva
>>98267069Inb4 endless spells
>>98266331>since GW is so fucking enamoured with seraphonAre Seraphon that popular, or at least liked by GW? Then they should renew Lizardmen then.Besides I like Lizardmen, but I can get into Seraphon: They are supposed to be (mostly) ascended light beings, empowered by their god, And I would think of lizardmen with more magic or magitech; But since AoS release and onto today, Seraphon are just Lizardmen with extra detail, only some minis like the Slann. Skink Priests and some decoration minis look as I mentioned.Other factions in AoS are cooler & original, but Seraphon are just the same old lizard in general.
>>98265043How will AoS survive this BRVTAL mogging?
>>98267159Remains in play spells already exist. Ploys imply some kind of sneakiness
>>98265043Eh/10.When I get the starter set, these are going right into eBay or to a local that wants to trade them for his Cathay half.
>>98267179If you just want Cathay, wouldn't it be cheaper to just find some people already seeling there models second hand?
>>98267179>>98267189Or even just buy the Battle March Cathay army instead of the core set?
>Even when its a WoC update they have to slip more beastmen shit inWHAT IN THE FUCK IS HAPPENING THIS TIME AROUND? DID BEASTMENFAGS INFILTRATE GW?? THEY GET MORE LOVE THAN FUCKING EMPIRE!
>>98267167They're getting their own new chaos warriors in AGE OF SIGMAR: THE LAST WORLD.
>>98267198I guess anon just really wants that playmat that comes with the new core set
>>98267198I already have all the shit for the BM box.>>98267189Because I want the extra stuff too.
assuming every army is going to get a big beasty, what will we see in the future?WE- forest dragonHE- dragonOrcs- wyvernEmpire- griffonbeastmen- ???dwarfs- airship?marauders- war mammoth?
>>98267217Wouldn't it also come with the core rules too? The mat is inconsequential.
>>98267225It's just an edited errata, it's not that big a change
>>98267119When the fuck were Chaos warriors so huge???? Looking at their Battle March cover art, looks like they even tower over Orcs by scale.
>>98267097I meant this set. They don't look gnarly enough. Is that meant to be a warboss in the art??? Looks small!
>>98267223Beastmen could be new Jabberslythe or Preyton
>>98267239>Is that meant to be a warboss in the art???same axe so I would guess so
Will they do battlemarch boxes for each faction?
>>98267233They've usually been depicted as big guys.
>>98267258I would guess so, since the only Battalion boxes left are Dwarfs and Wood Elves
>>98267244Well...damn. i much prefer the command set one. The warboss is not very well executed in the art. In contrast the Warriors look phenomenal.
>>98267243My dog is fine leave it alone.
>>98265720>you can combine the Warriors of Chaos with the Beastman Brayherds>create your own custom Champions of Chaos and Brayherd Chieftains to lead your forcesI've been doing that anyway since I primarily play homebrew shit. Running beastmen in a narrative campaign where cultists and chaos warriors join as the herd gains notoriety is too fluffy to pass up on.
>>98267287Brother do i have two 6th edition army books to tell you about.
>>98266461You think this is a joke. I think its kino.
>>98267243something original like a giant warped razorgor would be cool
>>98266378>why is GW focusing so much on the brand new army people have been asking about for years
>>98267097I like this art. I also like how that empire captain(general?) is halfswording
>>98267223beastmen- ???Ghorgon ?
>>98267233Always? Yea, no shit they tower over orcs, orcs are on average normal human sized or thereabouts. Chaos warriors are 8" tall !space marine fuckers.
Lmao there are female Goliath now But no male escher
>>98267363Thats never happening lorelet. The escher males are all born grossly deformed and used as sperm donors. They live their lives in tanks like navigators in dunc.
>>98267296I know, I started playing back around the release of 6ed.
>>98267342Obviously Cathay will be heavily featured as the first new army in two decades. That guys a dummy. The same level of attention will be heaped on Kislev in 2nd edition.
>>98267223Some sort of corrupted swampy chaos forest dragon for beastmemes could be kino... >>98267223
>>98267354or maybe a new plastic shaggothbut something totally new would be cool
>>98267354Of all the monsters in Beastmen, why would you pick the one with the best kit?
Gutted that it wasn’t Leaping Slomm Two Face. Maybe next wave
>>98267369Aren't Golith massive misogynists who are all vat-born, so they don't even need women for breeding?
>>98264612
>>98267412I'm pretty sure its actually the escher lacing the drugs the house of chains buys to roid them out that are intentionally turning them into demi ogryn.
>>98267352It's the Monopose plastic empire captain from 8th or 7th edition, I think>https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/empire-of-man-captain-of-the-empire-2025
>>98267223>>98267243>>98267354Jabberslythe is definitely the beastmen dragon equivalent. Ghorgon is also up there, but doesn't have the right niche to be considered THE big beasty for the army. I would like to see a beastmen specific greater chaos spawn that gets to choose from a list of mutations instead of gods. Like 10 pts to pick from a block of fly 8, swiftstride, or ambush and another option block of 15 pts for a weapon that gives +2 strength AP2, always strkes first, or Armored hide 3. Maybe a block that adds a tail attack, giant mouth, more stomps, or more impact hits. You get the idea.
>>98267424Thats probably the model reference, yes. But the pose is different, specifically hes doing something I dont think you see very often in fantasy art (halfswording)And that general is from 8th btw, you can tell because hes plastic and thats the edition they introduced plastic characters.
>>98267434Beastmen dont have a dragon equivalent and thats fine. Neither do empire or orcs or bretonnia (no, griffons/wyverns/whatever dont count)Not every army has some singular definitive "superheavy monster", not every army needs one, and not every army should get one either.
>>98267436>you can tell because hes plastic and thats the edition they introduced plastic characters(specifically referring to those blister kit ones - see also the chaos lord, nurgle lord, chaos sorcerer, dark elf sorceress, necromancer, skinp priest..., not the "box that makes a dude" like the orc general/HE prince/empire general ones, those were from 7th afaik)
This feels like GW going "so they didn't really want Bret and Tomb Kings back that badly".
>>98267478tbf we're still expecting that TK/WE box or AJ to come at some point
>>98267412No, they have natural-born ones. Escher was the only monogender one and even thats just because the males are never fielded outside the breeding station.
>>98267443>orcsThey have the arachnarok, but I do think they should get the rogue idol. >EmpireThey have a fairly unique superheavy monster in the steam tank. That said, I do agree not every army should have nor get one. It's an interesting point that beastmen get just a large number of monster choices instead of a superheavy, though you can make an argument for Ghorgon, Shaggoth, and Minotaur Doombull as being super heavy.
>>98267369Have a look at the release midwit
>Ogres getting new line in AoS>TOW narrative shifted to Cathay>In the timeline Cathay end up reinforced at the last minute by Ogres who come up with the concept of being mercs from thisSo how long till Ogres leave legends?
>>98266008>Aw yeah, beast(trans)women leader incoming!fixed this for you champ
>>98267493>but I do think they should get the rogue idolShould everyone else get emperor dragons then? Should lizardmen get their dread saurian? If were dragging big MA shit out the closet.
>>98267513Don't give me hope like that anon.Doing some thinking however, what if GW is banking on people learning about Ogres reinforcing Cathay, seeing they're only legends in TOW, but see them in AoS AND getting new shiny units, so they'll go spend some cash on AoS by proxy due to TOW?
>>98267478Nah it’s more like GW updating the most popular army first (WoC) and promoting their newest full range
>>98267233>When the fuck were Chaos warriors so huge???? Looking at their Battle March cover art, looks like they even tower over Orcs by scale.They are essentially space marines sized and powered. They are however not space monks, they even have families and foster kids of their own, wholesome when little bjorn kills his first neighbor
>>98267517Sounds good to me
>>98267513Realistically i would imagine Ogres are the next to leave legends at the next part of the story after this 1.5 edition update where it looks like Chaos is pushing Cathays shit in. With the ruinous powers still waning the moment some chaos resistant large lads show up they are fucked.Hell give us a young greasus as the hero.
>>98267537A dream so beautiful it hurts the heart to wake.
>>98267533The degree to which they are !space marines is (somewhat fittingly) inconsistent. Wulfrik drinks and fucks with the rest of them, others are genuine posthuman monsters who dont need to eat, sleep, shit, or procreate and simply exist to kill for the dark gods.They have families, but for many of them it simply means "remembering the clan you came from" rather than going out, kidnapping a bride and making some baby chaos-warrior-lings.
>>98267546>A Young Goldtooth savant unites his clan with a daring new concept: instead of eating people they pay us to eat other people
>>98267551I dont think Wulfrik *needs* to eat, he just does it because by fenrisian standards hes a gourmand.
>>98267559I dont know if he needs to do it, but he chooses to. Which is something not all of them do. Many are basically posthuman, utterly beyond mortal needs, magically fused to their armor and very literally powered by slaughter. But chaos warriors are - by design - a very diverse and loosely defined group. It covers everything from the guy with symbiotic demon-armor to Sven the Axe murderer and his fancy new hauberk Bjorn made.
>>98267575I think for both its a case of "warrior culture" versus "indoctrinated weapons". Some like the Exorcists are not people at all. They aren't intended to be. But the Luna Wolves were schooled by Sindermann because Horus before his fall wanted educated men not weapons. I imagine for WoC its the same. Fryydal might value ingenuity, cruelty and spontaneity but another warlords might want something closer to uruk hai.
>>98267584I dont think chaos warriors are as "top down" as space marines. Space marines are created for a purpose, chaos warriors do what they want to be doing and gravitate towards like minded groups.Sven the Viking is more likely to join up with some guys who are more or less normal.Bloodfeast Skullmurder the Rapekiller is likely to join up with the guys promising eternal battle 24/7A chaos lord cant make his followers one sort or the other (both literally and figuratively), but they are likely to attract like minded souls to their banner, and even then youre likely going to see some "cross-mixing", any given chaos tribe probably has a couple of the posthuman weirdos and any given extreme warband likely has a couple of "normal" guys who are simply joining up for whatever ends serve them.
>>98267513I think Ogres and Dark Elves coming out of legends could both tie into Cathay focused narrative well. Ogres raiding from the western border, Dark Elves raiding from the eastern coast. This could even tie into two more dragons getting models, Zhao Ming for the west and Yuan Bo for the east (or if they want to get neat they could do Yin Yin instead since she is more sea oriented than Yuan Bo.)
Damn it I was excited for tomb kings to get released but the new WoC stuff is okThe cathay boxings seem ok? But since the battleforces are both still available it seems strange
>>98267607The minute one army is let out of the cage means they all coming. Just hope for 1. My sweet Lizardmen, time to come home!
K-Kislev ??
>>98267734its ogre lad.
>>98267734Wait for 2.0
>>98267734Ogres first
Has the thread has enough time to accept that the AoS Warriors are better, or are people still in bargaining?
>>98267802>leather pirate shoes>halberds, the gayest weapon>plain leather cloaks>uniform armor>tactical rockYou are someones son.
>>98267802>tactical rocksthey're shit
>>98267802I don’t get why the new warriors don’t have rounded armor
>>98264491Some coworkers are trying to drag me into this game, I thought it was a pc game because everyone seems to shit their pants for the Armour designs, anyway, how hard is this game? I mean the board one, idk if is this the right thread, I'm seeing like a gazillion Warhammer ones here.
>>98267802Nah I'm quite the AoS model apologist and even I don't like their warriors. I loathe the visible eyes.
>>98267802Bait used to be believable
>>98267223i really hope if Welfs get a new forest dragon it's something interesting, not just a regular ass HE dragon with some leaves glued on
>>98267820Is it specifically "Warhammer the Old World" they're trying to get you into? Regardless, it takes a fair bit of time and dedication to get into.
>>98267822just paint them black
>>98267223>assuming every army is going to get a big beastyThey're repeating an 8th edition sin
>>98267817It makes a lot of sense, imo, for the models meant to be ranked up to be way busier and more detailed with less clear silhouettes.
>>98267734It's dead Jim.Your best bet are proxies at this point. Maybe hope not-Kislev wins in the Highland Minis' poll for their next faction.
>>982678368th's sin was making big monsters awful, or rather making cannons so good that big monsters were crap. If big monsters were fun, people would have brought them.
>>98267841>funThey’re not that either, they’re just strong.
>>98267839I feel retarded trying to understand what you’re trying to communicate. Wouldn’t clean concise armor design look better when ranked up together rather than spiky messes?
>>98267802>Not using both depending on what aesthetic you want for each unit>>98267822Ive just painted them glowing/filled in like every other helmet (WIP pic related). I agree that if they have a helmet their eyes shouldnt show through.
>>98267831They just told me they play Warhammer, not a specific one, i only heard of 40k, and he show me his set, one with minotaurs and other that are supposed to be policeman or something like that.
>>98267820It's extremely front heavy from a learning perspective but its not a difficult game from a rules perspective and is really fun once it starts flowing. It does have rules lawyery issues if you play with the wrong crowds, but every game is like that to a degree. It also has good army definition and a great setting. If it hits your aesthetic taste, you'll probably like it unless the rules escape you.
>>98267856Are they on round or square bases?
>>98267849yes I was being sarcastic
>>98267860I need to read the rules first, or a little introduction, maybe I'll do that later, thanks anon.>>98267861round, I saw both sets on round bases.
>>98267849True but the spiky mass looks nice depending on how spiky and way its painted. The trim not being contrasted to the rest of the armour and/or no glowing eyes makes them lack a focalpoint or aspects breaking up the different parts.
>>98267881>roundThen you're in the wrong warhammer thread, we're all square based over here. If it was fantasy you want age of sigmar, if it was scifi you want 40k.
>>98267881>round, I saw both sets on round bases.Okay, it's definitely not this one then. I recommend turning to your coworkers for more guidance since they'll obviously know more about what they want you to play than us.
>>98267881>>98267890>>98267894Unless they are also wearing football equipment, then it's bloodbowl which is also amazing but not this thread.
>>98265616Not him but I'd rather do my Slaaneshi warriors in something like this. Bright and ostentatious without being overly garish. Not quite the purple horse. But maybe.
i'm kinda having second thoughts about the WoC stuffits good its just I prefer the 6th ed aestheticthe old sorc lord that's in the battle march box will look out of place with the rest of the army, in my opinion
>>98267914They took the perfect and timeless basic elements of the 5th edition look and managed to fuck it all up somehowThen again, I don't like modern miniatures, so I'm biased.
>>98267827Boy do I have something for you next thread
>>98267161>Seraphon are just the same old lizard in general.That's a good thing
The New Ogre’s actually look pretty neat if it wasn’t for them obviously not being viable for squares. I think it’s lame the butchers abandoned the whole “no gut plate” aspect of their design.
Kind of nitpicky but I don't like the wooden shields. For how heavy on armour they are otherwise, they look a bit flimsy. Just go all in and give them dumb metal slabs. Well, easy enough to switch out I guess.
Place your bets now, gentlemen. Will they give chaos warriors full plate? What about 2 attacks? Will they be removing their access to marks?
>>98265037>>98265043IM CUMMING
>>98267802Delicious AoStranny cope.
Wait, toobers are saying its a new meta with this release? What's changing enough for that to happen? We getting new rules with the WoC and Cathay stuff, I thought it was just model refreshes
>>98267812They've always had those shoes and gloves, it's their iconic look, like shoulder pads for SM
>GrimDark Narrator got banned from youtube because of some literal jeets fraudulent claimsofcourse hes too small to contact anyone and bots just ignore counter claimsgod damnit
James you need to add the funny snake woman as a mini to TOW
>>98268057>Jewtube is a fucking shithole, more at 11
>>98268067Dechala already had a model back in the '90s. They might run a MTO, but they've been doubling down on this whole undivided only nonsense so they probably won't.
>>98268067Wish someone would sell a 3D print like this.
>>98268247IM GONNA STICK IT UP MY ARSE!!
>>98264774Fuck anon I love banners like this one. There's something incredibly charming about free hand that's less than spectacular and rather crude. I triggers my inner child, activating that part of my brain that first got fascinated with this hobby of ours.Also I might steal your design an adapt it for my dwarfs. I can definitely see potential for a unit of Irondrakes or a flame cannon.
>>98268247>>98268067bruh, it's literally a generic D&D monster, just google marilith stlhttps://www.myminifactory.com/search#/?{%22searchString%22:%22marilith%22}
>>98267082God I hope Orcs get an overhaul that’s this good desu
>>98267284I think your dog has autism, anon
I'm happy for ChaosCHADS, I am, but man, this really makes the disgusting Bretonnian KOTR on foot sting even worse. Being a Bretonnia fan is an exercise in masochism.
>>98267899I mean it seems pretty obvious that he's describing the Beastmen and Arbites from Kill Team. Dunno how you hear policemen and think Bloodbowl mate.
>>98265110kinography
>>98268564>Bretonnian KOTR on footEasily the weirdest shit to come out of TOW. It's crazy how it sticks out like a sore thumb, even among the other new Bretonnian models that came out at the same time. It's like they were designed in a different timeline then got transported here.
>>98268485>I want kino replaced with monopose CADslopI despise you zoomers.
>>98265330Maybe I'm just getting old but I'm starting to think this hobby isn't really intended for me anymore. These things are so over designed it's actually absurd. Literally not one square millimeter on this model is flat or smooth, it's entirely covered in over designed superfluous "details." It's like the new GW team never learned the golden rule of design or art, that "less is more."The new Northstar Hussite War models look cool, maybe it's time I move over to historicals. I did turn 30 this year
>>98268564>>98268628I HATE THEM
>>98268688I always laugh at the armor but only now I notice that the size of the axe heads is fucking ridiculous.
>>98268695You raise a very good point that isn't much talked about. These are normal human KOTR too, not grizzled veteran QKs or demigod GKs. Those axeheads are bigger than fucking dorf axes. Everything about this kit is just absolutely fucking awful, everything. Do these retarded Nottingham monkeys not own a fucking reference book?
>>98268695>>98268733For me, it's the Sam Hyde neck brace gorgets, leather baby bib mantles, and the 200% scale congestive heart failure bloat legs. The people who made this shit should never work in design again.
>>98265037>>98265043>normal shield design
>>98268765On what fucking planet is a shield like that "normal"
>>98268770It's a riot shield with a pointy bottom.
>>98268688the church helmed one looks so fucking stupid man
uh of perryfaggot melty in progress
>>98268790The bullhead one too. How the fuck do you make a bull helmet uncool? Seems impossible but somehow they did the impossible
>>98268688>>98268695Somebody actually approved this design and let it leave the studio
>>98268819Thankfully the guy who made the recent Zombie Dragon for AoS is in charge of that now. New WoC are already so much better.
>>98266881>>98266903You know what... I think some of them are female.One of the cleavers, gutseers and 3 of the gluttons appear female to me. Clearly no facial hair, narrower shoulders but also torsos narrow enough that the gutplates feasibly cover their nipples (some of the wider shouldered, obviously male gluttons have exposed nipples). And then the female cleaver and gutseer have cleavage under their aprons.>>98267094>>98267121I like the models overall, but I think now it's clear they made the gutplates 'reasonably' unisex, so they had to be high and big enough to cover boobs.
I don't like new models.
>>98268695They really look like an 8th edition kit and probably were one that was done but never released.
>>98267802I like the new warriors more, I never liked the bare 6th ed warriors that much, I get why people did, but I don't.The new ones have some nice variety and look straight out of an adrian smith artwork.
>>98267443I don't think each army needs a dragon equivalent but it seems like there will be a Big plastic centerpiece for each army which beast men currently lack. Maybe it'll be a heardstone.
>>98264823It was over a decade ago.You've just been diddling a still warm corpse all this time.Well, now it's a cold cadaver.
>>98267802I don't know what /wfg/ hivemind will eventually decide is fact, but my first impression is these are some of the best warhammer fantasy models I've seen.I feel it perfectly encapsulates the "Adrian Smith" chaos warrior concept into model form.The only problem I've seen so far is that I'd like the Chaos Knight horses to be in more of a gallop.
>>98268997At this point the gutplates are just a normal breastplate. Fucking stupid like most AoS redesigns. Only nu-Skaven and nu-Night Goblins have been worthy.
>>98269084Let the tranny have his cope, it's pretty much all he has left now.
>completely unnecessary update is worse than both the previous plastics as well as the AoS rangegrimDragon is cool tho
>>98269338You can back to your containment general.
>>98267802I like both.I think the AoS Warriors are a good update for the 6th ed style of Warrior, and TOW warriors are cool with how they are bringing back the 5th ed style.
So is the battle march box plus the core set an ok way to start cathay and warriors of chaos?I mostly wanted to collect wood elves, tomb kings and chaos dwarfs as those are my favourite total war factions but these were my 4th and 5th choice
>>98269384There would probably be cheaper things to do that, since if the new starter set is the same price as Saturnine, it's going to be £200.00 and the HH combat force boxes are £105 to £110 you're already spending £300+
>>98269341He is right with the first part more or less. I agree there were more pressing issues with TOW than old chaos warriors' minis. With an exception of the dragon, which was long overdue. But other minis weren't that outdated, I would rather see GW focused on bringing back legacy armies.That being said, new minis are gorgeus.
>not even an everchosen >singlehandedly gets the faction redesigned around him
>>98269421>visible eyes
>>98267802
>>98267802I like the aos ones more, but these guys aren't exactly bad either
>>98267802does the new kit come with greatweapons?
>>98269498I would guess not, as they don't say that, nor are any shown
>>98269462>visible INHUMAN eyes
>>98269498most probably not, but it they made a point of making the arms interchangeable between knights and warriors then it's possible they planned the same for chosen and that those will have great weapons, but I doubt it
>no leather booties and glovesmassive upgrade
>>98269598Not a fan of buccaner boots?
Time to start some ebay rescue. 60+ of the old Marauders
>>98269787
>>98269863>>98269863>>98269863New
>>98267817Because its meant to evoke the 5e aesthetic, as opposed to being a modernization of their post 6e aesthetic. >>98267802They are, but the new ones are an improvement over the SoC ones and more cariety and choice is good.
>>98265043LUDOKINOGrogs coping and seething as usual.
