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>>98274127>TQIdeally they should be basic AND there should be upgrade kits for each flavor.Alternatively the kits are cross compatible and so you can switch the pirate bits for regular bits or biker bits or mongol bits, etc.
>>98274127Orks like the pinwheel of friendship?
>>98274132Yes, hoanar means family.
>>98274132>>98274152
>>98274132It's propa orky.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
Those Introductory Set Orks look weird.
Haven't played since 8th. How do I build a Drukhari army in 11th? Do I have to take three separate detachments? I know my unit comps are all fucked up because of how they dish out special weapons (what on Earth did they do to scourges? Are those options even possible with one box?)
>>98274198I think it's mostly the two bottom left ones that are weirdly angular and flat at the same time.
>>98274198The muscles on the nob is strange, otherwise they look in line with the rest.If orks boyz also get a multipart kit this would be huge
>>98274127>For example, do you want flash gits to be pirate orks or do you want them to be just normal orks with big flashy guns?Both should be an option honestly:
>>98274213You start by picking one of the 2DP Detachments and adding a 1DP Detachment to it. Currently the most popular options are Skysplinter Assault and either Exhibition of Slaughter or Kabalite Agonysts.Then you just build an army maxing out on whatever that detachment you picked buffs.Venoms, Wyches, Hellions, Incubi with leaders, Mandrakes, and Scourges with Dark Lances are all very good right now. A unit of Kabalites for sticky objectives and giving Malys reroll wounds is pretty common too, and much more common in KC or KA where their shooting gets buffed. Talos and Cronos are also good in Tools of Torment, though that Detachment is more commonly paired with Kabalite Cartel or Covenite Coterie is occasionally used. Reaper's Wager is a good detachment that lets you use Harlequins, but because you have to play Purge the Foe with it winning is quiet hard with it now.As for the scourge squads, they just work like old devastators did where their sprue sheet comes with one of each weapon type but the rules allow you to max out any one type of weapon. You cannot build them wysiwig with a single box, but nobody knows what dark eldar weapons look like anyway, so people have either kit bashed or printed dark lances or just givien them each a different heavy weapon and painted them similarly and told the opponent they're all Dark Lances/Haywire Blasters. Heat Lances are also an interesting new option now that it's cheaper than the other heavy weapons to take and can deep strike in melta range, but the real value of scourge is keeping them safe and alive and able to be used many times over the course of the game using shoot and scoot.
>>98274243Their skin is painted in a weird way. Overall i like the poses of these 6 orks more than the "proper" Armageddon boyz.
>>98274255They said as much in the preview.
>>98274289That'd be great, I hate repeated models and GW has been kinda ass with variety, so it seems boyz are eating good.I'll assume grots will also get their own kit then, maybe with the runtherd, who knows
Working on anything this fine sunday?
>>98274306>demiurgvotann>barghesineed updating
>>98274127>Do you think units should have their own unique aesthetic flairs or stick to the most basic and baseline look of their respective army?I want my armies to be uniform. My least favorite army based on looks is Eldar because the Aspect Warriors all have their own paint scheme instead of wearing their Craftworld's colours.
>>98274310>votannThey're not xenos.
BIGBOUNCYBANSHEEBUTTS
>>98274306most of these are wrong or pure headcanon
YOUVE GOTTA BE A LE ECKS DEE GOOFY INDIVIDUAL TO PLAY ORKS, ITS THE LE ONLY WAY XDXD
>>98274183>>98274354Please get these fuckers banned already
>>98274289Wait, so there's a chance for gretchens to not stay locked in the boys kit?
>>98274358Sourgrapes
>>98274298Runtoids future is looking good, they flashed this for like 2 seconds in the stream
I feel absolutely nothing for this "mek"
>>98274378looks a little better than the old one but its not exciting. wheres the fuckin killsaw?
>>98274298>I'll assume grots will also get their own kit thenOr the current kit stays, it's not out of stock, sold out or even online-only.
>>98274376
>>98274376looks like the one resident grot enthusiast (who doesnt even have an army btw) can get excited over this
>>98274376I hope the Green Tide option is worth taking. I sold all my Killa Kanz and Dreadz a while back because they were always getting BTFO'd before being useful for anything other than a target priority distraction.
>>98274376>Only three new Detachments in the Codex.Grim tidings for some of the armies with a smaller selection of detachment options
>>98274405as an ork player ill refuse to play against anyone who is running green tide. not interested in watching them spend half an hour moving all of their shit, fuck that
>>98274412looks like theres more than 3 m8
>>98274343The Kin aren't, the Votann themselves are, yes.
Are there any good online list builders?
>>98274443Votann are just Squats that aren't part of the Imperium.
>>98274343Look at the store page.Same shit. Demiurg are votanns, if votanns aren't xenos, remove demiurg.
>>98274415That is a rank exaggeration. It takes 5 minutes tops. The only times Ive ever seen an entire turn take more than 20 minutes is either playing Apocalypse or the player is stoned.
>the starter box is better than Armageddonhow did this happen
>>98274450No, the Kin are just squats, the Votann are AI supercomputers that the squats worship as gods. Read the lore, dude.
>>98274378He's very generic, which would be great for a proper kill team scenario.He's clearly mogged by the OG he takes inspiration from.
>>98274309Pengines
>>98274453not taking the chance, we have a huge influx of ork players at my lgs and they all want to play green tide for whatever reason, most of them play some variety of marines so they are going from moving a few models to a shitload. they can have the back pains that come with it
>>98274451>Look at the store page.Where would you like them to put non-Chaos, non-Imperial human factions?>Same shit.Demiurg are aligned with the Tau, so they're filthy xenos.
>>98274458that one looks great and then i realised it was an old big mek model. the old metal mekboy is very bare bones
>>98274309i should start building something. whats the most exciting thing to build from the ork side of the armageddon box?
>>98274446newrecruitgw app is also fine if you pay for it...
>>98274455>Votann [the faction] are just Squats that aren't part of the Imperium.FTFY>Votann are AI supercomputers that the squats worship as godsAnd how are they xenos?
>>98274446war organ, it shits all over new recruit and it was updated to 11th not long after 11th went live
>>98274464>>votann>They're not xenos.>[They are in the xenos category]>Demiurg are aligned with the Tau, so they're filthy xenos.Am I talking to fucking chatgpt? Give me a recipe for french toast
Clearly once catgirl rebels and guevesa world units get added GW can make a section on their site for non-imperium non-chaos humans but in the meantime who fucking cares
>>98274474Grog, can anon answer a simple question?
>>98274465The previous plastic mek had a little more personality.I do like the crane, it feels like a cruder servo arm.The controller is very fucking lazy thoughbeit.
>>98274455The votann supercomputers are made of kin souls, they're as much squats as the emperor is human.
>>98274467The mek, though the characters take like 2 minutes a piece
Tau need a melee battlesuit unit. It doesn't even need to be good, but it does need to exist.
Is there a convenient online list of all the missions and dispositions and disposition matchups? I'm making a list and I don't know if I want to do disruption or purge or whatever all of these are
>>98274483I do agree, im interested to see a datasheet hoping that the crane has some gnarly extra attack or something, in the case that there isnt any options. Just realised how poorly painted my one is, don't think ive ever used it in a game before
>>98274198Mefinks they all look good
>>98274462I have not read through the 11th core rules yet so I'm not even sure I want to buy it to this edition yet. From what Ive heard the new edition is making certain primaris lists completely broken so I'm taking a wait and see approach. Ive watch a couple games at my lgs and check out some YT videos and decide if its worth the trouble. I rarely play these days as it is, I'm not spending any more money on my Orks because including the Stompa I have around 3000pts already.
>>98274492That's probably the most exciting model desu, could be fun in dread mob but it will require to push the button for lethal hits so everything will have hazardous
>>98274506ESL lmao
>>98274306The Anglo urge to call everything related to snaked some form of slyth
>>98274506I went halves in the box so I dont really have a choice but outside the new models I'll be focusing on my gsc army and continuing to suck at it, got a magus recently for the battleshock potential but I doubt it will be as strong as the 11e rules are making out. Im more excited for the changes in terrain, although its not much different to the L shaped ruins spam that shit killed me inside everytime I'd set up a battle at my lgs, it looked so soulless
I like orks :D
>>98274514Seems ok to me anon, we aren't all from an English background
>>98274522Le le ecks dee XDXD
>>98274309my first armageddon model
>>98274526>Seems ok to me anonLOL
>>98274538If you're gonna argue over silly shit like this you should at least post models
>>98274309Working on a recon squad
>>98274514Its not ESL, its shitty speech to text software.
>>98274500I'll save you some trouble and just tell you no one wants to play Disruption.There are ways to play all the other four effectively though
>>98274546Do the arms from that set work with regular cadian bodies too? Or are their shoulder joint unique to the recon bodies?
>>98274557The arms should fit, but they have the camo cloak sleeves molded onto them so you may have to do some work there
>>98274552is that your assumption or are you the guy who originally posted it? because if its latter then jfc it’s a short paragraph on a forum. why the fuck would anyone be using speech to text?
>>98274532and my collection of fists so far
>>98274540>ArgueI'm not arguing I'm making fun of you >You shouldYou should post in English lol
>>98274578im not the original poster, anon. post your models please
>>98274581you’re not even defending an ESL bro, you’re trying to play defense for a retard who can’t even type out a short post.
>>98274589Im just going to assume you're another secondary and just move on. Fucking stupid discussion
I'm really excited for Exodites, but I've always thought Beast Snaggas were cool too. I like them more than classic Orks. Putting them in the same box isn't fair, they might get me to actually start and Orks army
>>98274597Depends on how much they are charging for the box it could be a really good deal for ork players if they choose to go halves with an eldar player
NGL I have no intention of picking up a starter box but I am going to be scouring ebay for one of these bad boys. Looks great and has an amazing shooting profile.
>>98274504>poorly paintedI mean you only have to go through the dark/metal parts and remove the cat hair
>>98274532Why is he looking down and shooting up
>>98274601I'm hoping that the box price will be less than the price of the models separately, even with the box and other cardboard stuff in there. It doesn't have any terrain, so it should be IMO
>>98274614he forgot what he was saying.
>>98274595>ESL thinks he's peopleNTA btw lmao
>>98274597I'm not sure why people hate snaggas so much anywayBut yeah exodites look cool and faithful to the original concept so I'm keen also
>>98274624>snaggasI dislike them because ymthey don't look uniform with the rest of the army.
>>98274597The only truly ugly snagga models are the rig and the boss on footbut the rig can be replaced with a squiggoth print and who cares about having a boss on foot when you can have a boss on squigosaurit is unfair that they've put exos against already existing models, and made the whole box very unfavourable for whoever wants the exodites alone
the people who dont like snaggas dont even play orks so their opinion should be disregarded
>>98274633If there was like, one or two more Snagga kits so a full army of them was more viable, I'd probably be an Ork player right now.
>>98274640>one or two more Snagga kitsFor what?
in this edition if your unit shoots out of cover do they suffer -1 to hit?
>>98274629It's actually a really good stress test to see just how organic the hype around Exodites over the last few years really has been. Because it does kind of seem like it might have been astroturfed by a few people and not quite as widespread as the general buzz would indicate.
>>98274640more kits would make da big hunt quite fun, no idea what those kits should be but yeah snaggas dont have much
>>98274645le ebin meme anon XD heres an updoot for your trouble
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98274621What a loser, he should cry some fits
>>98274643I think you're seeing only what you want to see from whatever preconceptions you have about eldar or eldar fans.
the 30k custodes reveal was just a 40k reveal
>>98274648go back
>>98274655The point is I don't know what I'm seeing and neither does GW. But the sales of the combo box will be the proof they need.
>>98274641A medium size vehicle, maybe a really big squig monster and/or just a unit of regular squigs, etc.just so the army has more than three kits, that's too repetitive, imo.although maybe I should just sack up and do conversions
>>98274624snakebites are the least popular subfaction for orks, so having a release wave dedicated to them when there were plenty of kits that were in dire need of a refresh is very annoying. it didn’t help that they were shoved into several discount boxes which meant if you didn’t like snakebites, most discount boxes wouldn’t be worth buying.
>>98274660ECKS DEE XDXD
>>98274619>no terrainThats such a joke.. why could they not include at least one sprue of those eldar pylon things from their cover picture.
>>98274688If I recall GW has like a dozen unique pieces of Eldar Terrain that they have never sold and only use for internal photo shoots. Probably because they're just printed and not injection molds.
>>98274667>although maybe I should just sack up and do conversionsdefinitelystompa profile for huge squiggothbattlewagon or naut for smaller squiggothstormboys? for aos feral hopping squigsdeff dread for aos mangler squigsthe squigbuggy looks like something they could normally use, even though it's not pulled by or mounted onto a beastie
>>98274695hell, it's so old it's probably not printed, it's all scratch built
Ok so if I get this right>from Questoris box I can make a despoiler>from Dominus a Tyrant>from Ruinator an abominant, desecrator, rampager and ruinator>Cerastus are heresy kits and weapon sets are box-specific, fuck you no separate addons to buy - get another entire shitter
>>98274688Probably going to be part of the boxed Kill-Team terrain set for the new Kill-Team season launching in a few months.
>>98274668I don't know if it's true anymore but a decade ago I heard from a GW insider that they just let their sculptors do whatever they feel like and worry about giving it viable rules and role in the army after the fact. The snaggas release wave would seem to be proof of that.
>>98274695>that they have never sold and only use for internal photo shoots.I remember them mentioning that they sculpted a whole eldar temple structure or something only to break it apart and have tactical rocks with a semblance of internal consistency.
>>98274700in the lore the Beast Snaggas hunt all kinds of beasts, it makes sense for the models to be all Squigs because that's what Orks always have no matter where they are, but if I was doing custom jobs I think I'd want to get a bit weirder with it. Get a Jurassic Park toy, add a second head and a bunch of crudely cyborged guns and that's my Morkanaut, etc,fuck I might actually do this when I finish my Master's and finally have free time again.
>>98274712Masters in what?
>>98274704>new kill team seasondo you think that means…
>>98274706Would be really cool to piece together what that temple looked like from all the tactical rocks on all the Eldar characters.
Do you think that an Iron warriors Vs hrud kill team set is possible? I’m wondering if they would make Hrud models since they wouldn’t be able to sell the molds as apart of any base 40k army in the meantime
>>98274355it uses official art where it existsif it doesn't it approximates by showing closest possible art from other places
>>98274729Why would they re-release something from the past, if they can just release KT boxes without terrain for the same price?
>>98274574I don't think the Omnisiah sanctioned that rhino modification.
>>98274643That doesn't make any sense. All KTs get their individual boxes eventually and anyone who wants exos without ork npcs knows to wait, and GW knows they know. It would be more of a stress test to see how well they can unload backstock this way
>>98274719library science
>>98274574>>98274532I must say I really dislike your artstyle. It looks very cartoony and pastel like. Reminds me how all new games now have this smooth fortnite artstyle. Hate seeing unhelmeted Marines too
>>98274738there's no reason for them to ever do Hrud, outside of something weird like Warhammer Quest
>>98274757Hrud are the most likely candidates for whenever they want to make a brand new xenos faction. They check off all the boxes
GSC bros, is running triple 1dp detachments the way to go this edition?
>>98274749the omnissiah can suck an egg
>>98274761How do they make their time warping abilities the way they are described in the lore work on the table top?
>>98274642no
>>98274761Especially the>HH RUINED 40K.. ALL THE MYSTERY IS GONE NOW-box
>>98274753Kek, my ex is the head librarian at the Oshawa library.
>>98274668I refuse to believe they're snakebites. Snakebites wouldn't have cyber limbs or squigs with wheels instead of legs. They don't use giant powerklaws like the beastboss has. I'm sad that these are probably the closest we'll ever actually get to dedicated snakebite models and they're hardly snakebites at all
>>98274756his models always looked off to me, but I never understood why until you put it into words.
This guy is taking forever. still need to do the helmet and the shield but it's gonna be worth it in the end. At least the infantry will go much faster
>>98274764This is the reason why Admech bans innovation.Looks cool though
>>98274761lol they don't check off shit.Ssylth would make more sense. Guevesa would make more sense. Expanding an Ork clan like Beast Snaggas would make more sense. Spinning off Exodites and/or Harlequins into their own Codex would make way more sense.
>>98274765Give them a passive aura that gives enemies debuffs when they’re inside of it. Most of their temporal fuckery is described as being inconsistent and random, so they would actually lend themselves really well to a dice based wargame
>>98274746The problem is not whether the art is official or not, the problem is that for the vast majority of them the art is slapped onto a name despite said name being associated with no description or link to that art at all.It's pure headcanon.
>>98274775We dont post models here, just lore bullshit
>>98274778I’m referring to if gw wanted to do what they did with votann and add something entirely new to the game as a stand alone faction. >>98274783
>>98274765Probably just work like Death Guard contagion>Chronos field: All models within 12" of a [Hrud] model start to age rapidly causing armor and weapons to deteriorate, -1T -1WS -1BS
>>98274764Ah yes, the Phallistus Cannonade. Looks sick, keep it up.
>>98274763no, they all suck. Purestrain one is good but then you're locked into playing dogshit detachments with it.
>>98274787Votann wasn't entirely new, it was a remake of something very old
>>98274761I have never seen a hrud army drawn, i do not know what diverse and interesting lineup they could be given, you only ever post this single picture of this single goofy looking hrud and demand a whole army, i just can't see it.
>defilers doubled in pricewhoops, I'm late to the party but I assume all the chaos playing tourney fags took 3 each 100% of the time?
>>98274790Purestrain + final day could be fun
>>98274796You missed the pictures?
>>98274775>yellow and purpleHNNNNGGG
>>98274799I'll take that as a yes, I've been offline for weeks
>>98274792So are the hrud. The only difference is the hrud never got models like the squats did
>>98274807anon you simply must understand the difference between an actual playable army and a single piece of flavor art.I know you understand that difference and why what you posted was silly.
>>98274796It was busted as fuck, and honestly still kinda is. But yes every chaos army in a tournament was running minimum one, usually two or three.
>>98274309Starting on a character today, not sure which. Might just do the Warboss so I can finish the subassembly I did for him (banner separate).
>>98274474Squats are abhumans just like ratlings, beastmen and ogryn. xenos are defined by having a nonhuman origin.
>>98274797You're then playing Tyranids, not GSC. I hate 10th's GSC codex so fucking much
Will Dakka x Greentide work with take n hold? I'm thinking of 3 bricks of kitted out boyz (one with ghaz) backed up by flashgitz, sagmeks with bustas and msu lootas atop any terrain
>>98274807>>98274809Hrud had a couple pieces of art that don't even agree with eachother. some of them look like the one from xenology, others like space skaven.Squats had an entire fully fleshed out army, model line, and unit roster.
>>98274819sounds fuckin gay anon
>>98274761>Hrud are the most likely candidates for whenever they want to make a brand new xenos faction.Lollmao
>>98274695Yeah, they have some scratch built stuff for their displays they use sometimes, but it doesn't really look that great though on close inspection.
>>98274818but it was a grotmas detachment anon, it wasnt in the codex
>>98274769>I refuse to believe they're snakebites.Correct, they're Beast Snaggas. They're an Ork subculture and not a clan.
>>98274832The Wraithknight statue is pretty cool though I can't imagine paying GW prices for something like that.
>>98274796Defilers just went up about 70 points apiece and there are still cases where taking 2 is justified.
>>98274827Fuck you leatherhead
>>98274828What's the timeline for new factions anyway (going by tomes)?Knights in 6th (?), gsc, sons, and mechanicum in 7th, death guard and custodes in 8th, world eaters and votann in 9th, emperor's children in 10th? Do I have it right?
>>98274775He's not really a Bladeguard Captain.He lacks the enhanced Bladeguard style gorget, pauldrons, and helm. Also the bladeguard style tabard.
>>98274837for the cheapest eldar scenery there's ttcombat and kromlech which I believe both make mdf platforms and stuff
>>98274837They can't sell a Wraithknight Statue for cheaper than a Wraithknight because then people would just paint the statue as a Wraithknight and put it on a different base for games.
>>98274761>>98274828>>98274807Supposedly Hrud worship an Old One as a GodI would make a Slann armyFrogs would look like pic related and not fat ones from WHFB/AoS. This is to diverge them from fantasy setting and not make models crosscompatible, just the way GW likes it. And from more hobbyist perspective, it would help them develop their own identity rather than just being WHFB faction in spaceHrud would be units within Slann army the same way Kroot are within Tau. Call this faction Children/Remnants of the Old Ones or something like this
>playing knights is fine>NOOO YOU CANT TAKE 3 SUPERHEAVIES IN ANY OTHER ARMY IN A 2K GAME BECAUSE....YOU JUST CANT OKAY ITS WAAC!explain.
>>98274885Mono-Knights are never ok to play against. It's literally never a fun game when you play against Knights. Nobody has ever said so
I need to stop daydreaming Current daydreams:>Eldar wraith host and warp spiders with lhykis >Tau big guns and stealth force>SoB penitent horde >iron warriors cp and defiler>ork heavy walkers army>White Scars fast attack army>Necron destroyers/flayer army>remodel and repaint all guard to be a consistent dkok army
>>98274853I dont hate mdf terrain, generally speaking, but i really would not recommend Eldar terrain made from mdf. The rounded, organic shapes so characteristic for eldar just do not look good when made from mdf.
>>98274896Spray it grey then ivory zenithal and slap on some plastic arts n crafts gems and it could work
>>98274845It depends on what we count as a truly new faction, 6th and 7th edition muddied the waters a lot by throwing around the word codex for what were essentially add-on supplements (granted, that was also one use of the name in way older editions, but by 5th ed the format was solidified).Meanwhile, especially after 8th ed, now we got multiple small waves of stuff that people arguably call factions even though they are just add-ons to an existing codex and not a separate one.Do we count harlequins, corsairs and now exodites as new factions? What about red corsairs and iron warriors? beast snaggas and speed freeks? The kroot wave? Do we count assassins, scions, custodes, sisters of silence and inquisition all separately?
>>98274893Daydreaming armies is extremely addictive anon, be careful
>>98274882>Hrud would be units within Slann armyNoone wants hruds in their slann army unless it's a throwaway cameo mixed with other such oddities like menfish and monkeys.
>>98274902I was going by codices (though I just noticed I called them tomes lel) but I recognize that's somewhat arbitrary.
>>98274902>Do we count harlequins, corsairs and now exodites as new factions? What about red corsairs and iron warriors? beast snaggas and speed freeks? The kroot wave?I'd count them all as SubFactions/Supplements just the way big 4 Marine Chapters are SubFactionsNew factions are Genestealer Cults, Admech, Votann, CustodesMonogod Legions for CSM are SubFactions for now and as long as they are so strongly separated from CSM. Ideally they would be a SubFaction thoughI'm conflicted about Imperial Agents, but would still call them new faction I think
>>98274901With some work, anything can be made to "work". Still, for eldar stuff, the requirement is higher than for example pic related, which just works out of the box, with a little bit of paint. Thats all i wanted to say.
>>98274910Why do you think so? They have this same potential playerbase due to this same appeal of being weird minor Xeno for contrarians. I think this merge would be great by being a more unique transition of Slann to space
>>98274127>Stormboyz
>>98274922>Monogod Legions for CSM are SubFactions for now and as long as they are so strongly separated from CSM. Ideally they would be a SubFaction thoughof course I made a typo, fuckthey are separate factions
>>98274925>They have this same potential playerbase due to this same appeal of being weird minor Xeno for contrarians.They have different fanbases because one is the lizardmen-adjacent fanbase, while the other is the skaven-adjacent fanbase.Wholly different expectations for their aesthetics too.
I consoomed and preordered Cain
Cain = Reddit
>>98274213scrugges are now two different data shits.
Is "codexs" or "codices" more correct and why?
>>98274946If you were not talking about 40k, codices would be the correct word.Codexes has been the word GW uses refer to them since the beginning so that's the correct term when talking about them in the context of warhammer
AELDARI...................................................995 ptsGUARDIAN BATTLEHOST (TAKE AND HOLD)...........................2DPWRAITHBLADES (5)..........................................140 ptsSPIRITSEER (1).............................................55 ptsFIRE DRAGONS (5)..........................................120 ptsWAVE SERPENT (1)..........................................125 ptsWARP SPIDERS (5)..........................................115 ptsSTRIKING SCORPIONS (5).....................................75 ptsHOWLING BANSHEES (5).......................................85 ptsDIRE AVENGERS (5)..........................................75 ptsSTORM GUARDIANS (11)......................................110 pts─ AUTARCH (1).............................................85 pts ─ Breath of Vaul.......................................10 ptsThinking I might take the plunge into 40k with this list. I'd need to pick up a few things but I have most of this just from Kill Team and me being autistic and owning models because I think they look cool. Any feedback?
>>98274946both gw and people use both, codexes is used way more, codices is more correctdon't think too much about it
>>98274957take and hold with flimsy elves might not go well
>>98274933But that only makes them a more interesting mix, divorced from closest WHFB counterpartsSlann are frogs not lizards. I do not believe they would be Lizardmen faction in Space, nothing about them indicates this. Especially if Exodites will be Dino faction to the point even Knarlocs weren't remade for Kroot, maybe intentionally even to not overlap with Exodites. And Hrud do not have to be Skaven. They do seem to be friendlier already, or at least not inherently malicious in a newest lore available for them
>>98274935It's a white, somewhat heterosexual male and his Russian manslave. I had to support it
>>98274756>>98274574Anon I too think your models look weirdly satin/matte, but I like the overall look anyway
>>98274970I'm not saying slanni are lizardmen, I'm saying their fanbase will be the same as the lizardmen's, because at the end of the day they're extremely connected in history, themes and some aesthetic elements.Hruds simply don't work attached to them unless they're an extremely miniscule cameo, they're way too different.
>>98274964Idea was wraithblades would sit on points and everything else is off doing elf things. But I’ll admit I have zero idea how to build for 40k or strategize
>>98274159>>98274181Makes sense, I suppose. They use the pinwheel, like the pirate skull and crossbone, as historical images to strike fear into humies.
>>98274992>1x5 TEQ-ish modelsBetween them and the Wave Serpent, you'd maybe be able to hold two points for a turn each.
>>98274935Same, I wanted the valhallan guy mostly, but Cain is cool too
Super easy to build my custodes army now. Combat Patrol + the last battleforce box + the new battleforce box is like 2500 points depending on how many characters you make from the combat patrol kits.
The only solution is a Xenos Mercenaries codex that's essentially Imperial Agents but can be allied into any army that doesn't have the "Imperium" "Chaos" or "Tyranid" keywords. Then you can have a single killteam unit for Hrud, Tarellians, Sslyth, Jokaero, whatever the heck else the sculptors feel like making as a little one-off. Ancient Slann psyker character, move the Eldar Corsair stuff over there along with the Zoat and Ambull, include the Kroot and Votann KT unit datasheets as equivalent to the SoB and Grey Knights in Agents. One radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitor special character because it'll sell.
So, I got myself a 10 man death squad krieg boys, a krieg heavy weapons set (3), and an armoured sentinel; how much more/what else do I need to get an 'okay' starter army?How many points people usually start with? 500? 1000? (is that even up to date with last edition?)
GW should soup all the less successful/less popular factions together to cut down on bloat, then add one last xenos faction, then stop adding factions forever.7 factions per category of Astartes/Imperium/Chaos/Xenos. 28 factions total.>Imperium - Adeptus RetardesDark AngelsWhite ScarsBlood AngelsBlack Templars+Imperial FistsUltramarinesSpace WolvesSpace Marines + Raven Guard + Iron Hands>ImperiumImperial GuardSisters of BattleCustardesMechanicusImperial Knights+Men-At-Arms and serfs (cheap chaff scoring units to make army more fun to play against)Imperial Agents+Deathwatch+Grey Knights (becomes a soup army for all Inquisition aligned forces)Titan Legions>ChaosForces of Chaos Undivided (+dark mechanicus, traitor guard, generic daemons/cultists, red corsairs; all Chaos factions gain access to these units)Hedonites of SlaaneshMadmen of Tzeentch Butchers of KhorneFilth of NurgleTraitor Knights+Men-At-Arms and serfs (cheap chaff scoring units to make army more fun to play against)Traitor Titan Legions>XenosEldar+Exodites+Ynnari+Corsairs+HarlequinsDark Eldar+Exodites+Ynnari+Corsairs+HarlequinsTyranids+Genestealer CultsVotannNecronsOrksTauQ'Orl Confederacy (soup army of Q'Orl and their mind controlled slave races: degenerated Old Ones, Slann, Rak'Gol, Hrud, Zoats, and any other fun alien designs they want to add going forwards)
>>98274891To fix that they should give Knights and Chaos Knights some chaff units (men-at-arms and Serfs a la Bretonnia) and make them basically mandatory to take.
>>98275084qorl don't have mind controlled slaves, that's tyranids and enslavers
>>98275084The Eldar Mega Codex is never going to happen, much as GW might once have wanted to make it work
>>98275084>Dark Eldar+ExoditesWho's gonna tell him
>>98275084>White Scars getting equal billing as all of Chaos UndividedFucking lol
>>98274405Buying models based on their rules performance is stupid. SELLING models based on their rules is a step beyond that. Genuinely sad.
>>98275084>all marines togetherbased>all imperium together- Keep IG separate- Bundle SoB, Inquisition & Mechanicus together- The rest goes into Apocalypse extras>chaos togetherbased (keep Apocalypse shit as add-on)>streamline xenosBased but you can keep Deldars alone and list in the eldar codex the units that can ally/be used by Deldars.>Q'OrlFuck off, either Tau as aux or a minor Xenos add-on.
>>98275067I made my post >>98275084 while reading the discussion further up then saw yours. Mercenaries sounds like a good justification for a random xenos soup army
>>98275084>>98275100Wait, I just noticed you actually made two seperate Eldar Mega Codexes instead of one and broke your own rule about only having 7 Xenos factionsThat's even more delusional
>>98275115Guess his main faction
>>98275076The smaller the point totals, the heavier the game skews towards cheap infantry. There's no way around it. 1k points is enough to have a balanced, if uneven, army, and is the smallest officially supported point total. 500 points is only done so that people who don't have 1k points can still play an army because it is janky as fuck - the game doesn't play well when one unit takes up 40% of your point total, but it also doesn't play well with no heavy units at all, and at 500 points it's hard to avoid both issues at the same time. At that point you might as well play Combat Patrol, which was designed specifically for new people. It's pre-made lists and they're sold in a box set and everything with slightly modified rules to make them all balanced against eacho ther.The Krieg Combat Patrol is 10 Krieg Infantry, a Krieg command squad, 5 Death Riders, and one Krieg Heavy Weapons Squad. That's only 260 points in the current game, and earlier an anon was having issues finding the rules for that particular set (they're supposed to be free but GW doesn't always make them easy to find), but it's the smallest playable army.
>>98274882Hrud worship Qah, not an old one
>>98275100It's pretty much just status quo except kill off harlies as an independent army and soup them into Eldar or Deldar.Eldar and Deldar would still remain separate armies, just with overlap>>98275099Qorl have mind worms >At some point, the Swarmhood began capturing a number of members of the Navis Nobilite in Segmentum Pacificus which included Corchillio Haegrael of House Hagrael who was implanted with a previiously unknown organism in his brain. In the locality of Maachros System on 0.024.804.M41, encountered the wayward frigate Macharius Memoriem encountered a Chain Ship with the Q'Orl captured Navigator that had been infested with a maggot-strain in his brain. >>98275106Scars (plus successors) would still be a minor subfaction of Astartes whereas Undivided would be a major (sub)faction of Chaos
>>98275084>Imperial Knights+Men-At-Arms and serfs (cheap chaff scoring units to make army more fun to play against)This is the only thing I agree with in your mess of an idea.
>>98274756Yeah, I hate World of Warcraft/Starcraft millenial influence.
AELDARI..................................................1005 ptsWARP SPIDERS (5)..........................................115 ptsSHADOWSEER (1).............................................60 ptsDEATH JESTER (1)...........................................80 ptsTROUPE MASTER (1)..........................................75 ptsTROUPE (5).................................................85 ptsSTRIKING SCORPIONS (5).....................................75 ptsDIRE AVENGERS (5)..........................................75 ptsHOWLING BANSHEES (5).......................................85 ptsCORSAIR VOIDSCARRED (10)..................................160 ptsSTORM GUARDIANS (11)......................................110 ptsAUTARCH (1)................................................85 ptsThese are all the models I have. What would I need to make a functional 1k list?
>>98275084Terrible suggestions all around, the one and only solution is the following >codex: marines >codex: guards>codex: admech >codex: sisters>codex: agents >codex: chaos>codex: eldar>codex: necrons>codex: tyranids>codex: orks>codex: tau+votannyou don't need any additional book other than these, everything you could possibly conceive can be added to one of these books, and with their possible additions they all balance each other out in terms of contents, big books beat small books
>>98275139Throw away the Harlequins and get some Fire Dragons or Warp Prisms would be my guess, but I don't really Eldar myself
>>98275143Where do non-chaos traitor marines and rebelling empires like the Severan Dominate go?
>>98275115Yeah I'm tiredOK no new Xenos factions then. New xenos designs can be added as Tau confederates, Dark Eldar mercenaries/slaves, or Votann alliesAt some point the faction bloat needs to end or else it becomes unmanageable
>>98275148Flavor marines, guard, or chaos codex armies into those depending on the rules you want
>>98275143>Codex:marinesThat book would be 6972627929 pages longUnrealistic suggestion because whether or not we like it marines are and always will be GW's biggest seller, that justifies them having subfactions
>>98275148>non-chaos traitor marinesEither using the Chaos codex and just not taking any daemon stuff, or the regular Marine codex, depending on how recently they rebelled>rebelling empires like the Severan DominateGuard or Agents
>>98275148>non-chaos traitor marinesyou use codex:marines or codex:chaos depending on how ragtag they are>rebelling empires like the Severan Dominateyou use codex:guards or codex:tau+votann depending on how imperial they still look
>>98275112Yeah, it's sorely neededHell some like Tau and Deldar could really use them anyway, since they should make use of xeno mercs that are even in game right now
>>98275167What the hell are Dvorgites?
>>98275163You can fit the entire marine meme armies in a single page.Two if you add more meme marines.GW did it already
>>98275163>That book would be 6972627929 pages longNot really, more than half of marine entries are generic heroes which can be easily condensed, and the vast majority of other units are some other unit with different equipment, or an already existing unit with with the special rule of a special chapter up front
>>98275067This, except you can use mercenaries in Imperial Agents armies.
>>98275168we don't know, but they make this gun
It is theoretically possible that an Eldar from the start of the War in Heaven has survived until the current year, thanks to the whole reincarnation thing they had going on.
>>98275134As an idea it isn't actually that different from the status quo of subfactions and supplements that already exist. The only changes are:>Soup Imperial Agents, GK and DW (less popular, poorly supported factions that can do with more options) >Rename World Eaters/EC/TS/DG into a Khorne/Slaanesh/Tzeentch/Nurgle faction, and give them access to Dark Mechanicus, Chaos Demons and Traitor Guard so they have enough variety for a full proper army (World Eaters are BADLY in need of this)>Soup Harlequins with the major Eldar factions >Soup Nids and GSC, who never really needed to be separate to begin withWhat are your issues with these changes? They seem pretty justified to me
>>98275067>One radical Ordo Xenos Inquisitor special character because it'll sell.Add a simplified basic Guard squad datasheet with a special rule that they can embark on any host army transport, with suggestions on how to convert them as gue'vesa or drukhari slave gladiators or digganobz, and watch the Cadian Shocktroopers box fucking fly.
>>98275178looks like the same people who did picrel's weapon
>>98275189I think the novel wild rider has some eldar with souls, or at least deep inherited memories, of moments of the war in heaven.We also don't know exactly how reincarnation worked for them, it might have not always been in the form of simply respawning with your own continued identity after death but something a bit more spiritual at times.
>>98275196Actually that's true of the *other* heavy kroot weapon, the londaxi tribalest
>>98275189We know there are only a handful of Eldar that even survived the Fall, let alone survived the intervening millennia. Eldrad, Vect, Rakarth, and a few others and only the last one had ever been reincarnated before.But there are two technical ways you might be right.The first is Yvraine once used her powers on a younger Eldar and unlocked memories from a previous life which implies some Eldar have reincarnated and simply don't remember their previous existence due to the influence of Slaanesh.The second is that there are some sealed chambers inside of the Blackstone Fortresses that contain primordial Eldar in stasis from the War in Heaven, though none have ever been revived successfully.
Soup is the dead for any army, ask for soup X is horrible for anyone who actually likes X thing
>>98275196That's just samegun syndrome jes has sometimes.This is made by the londaxi, but it's got the same design cue.
>>98275204I don't know, Knights seem to do pretty alright for themselves despite having been a soup faction for their entire existence.
>>98275204Microfactions damage a model range way more
>>98275076If you want a cheap 1k list here's something that might work for you >Krieg Command Squad (Command Squads are a must so you can give out orders, if you have to buy a single model next time you go to the store make it this one) - 65>Death Korps of Krieg (20 man) - 145 >A second Command Squad/20 Man Blob squad (More bodies the better, if you want to you can go with a Cadian squad for variety but if you want to go all-in on Krieg you can do their squad for 5 more points) - 205-210>Krieg Heavy Weapons Squad - 60>Scout Sentinel (You can build the Sentinel as this and just build the top half of the Armored Sentinel separately and just swap between the two models) - 55>A Leman Russ variant of your choice (Its really up to you which one you like the most, I'm partial to the Vanquisher and default Battle Tank the most) - 150-190 >a Squad of Elites (If you want to stick Krieg you can go Combat Engineers (95pts for 10) or go with Kasrkin (115 for 10). Kasrkin are generally the better datasheet though. >A Chimera to transport them (If you go with Kasrkin the Chimera gets to scout too) - 85 pts>Artillery Team (Indirect got pretty shitty in 11th, but you can use your scouts to mitigate that) - 95 That puts you in the 1000 pt range pretty easily using units that are pretty much staples to the army. If you want to you can remove the Artillery Team for something else if you want more points to flex around with, maybe a second Sentinel or HWT or something else.
>>98275208Isn't that because they are literally the same model with different bits added to them?
>>98275214Oh yeah like Guard, Eldar, and Orks who are definitely suffering from those micro factions.
>>98275218The kroot holding the gun is the same, the guns share no components, gw designed them to share design language so they fit together and/or the fluff about them being made by different alien races and gifted was invented after they were already designed.
>>98275208>That's just samegun syndrome jes has sometimes.Elaborate on that "Jes samegun syndrome", please.
>>98275208Why does GW make guns like Bethesda?The guns seems to shoot some slugs as you can see in the magazine, but this crossbow contraption along with what appear to be a barrel that goes past the magazine, but the cannon seems to be way up of said barrel or the crossbow mechanism.Compared to this one >>98275178 I can imagen how it works to some degree, since it lacks clearly recognizable parts, so it is easier to have some suspense of disbelief
>>98275224They aren't suffering SPECIFICALLY because they're soup book instead of having separate microfaction codexes for kriegers, snaggas and corsairs with limited or absent compatibility with the rest of their respective ranges.
>>98275214????????
>>98275239Then they aren't suffering? Can you point an army ACTUALLY suffering?
>>98274532>>98274574I think they look good, Anon. Although the skin could use some touch ups, it looks a bit flat.
>>98275224if you want factions done bad way look at deldar. it's "3" (technically mercenaries included) microfactions with such low overlap so if you're not playing yours there is barely any reason to take them in other ones bar padding points (sorry covens). Everything is 4 datasheets, sometimes including epics even, and the only thing that's really taken universally that is between factions is hellions and scourges, with the latter being "mercs" when in reality mercs is just kabals
>>98275243NTA but Imperial Agents. And you could call Dark Eldar an army of just micro factions.
>>98275192>Soup Imperial Agents, GK and DW (less popular, poorly supported factions that can do with more options) Deathwatch is already souped into Agents for the most part, but would lose out on all the other toys Space Marines get. If you really want to be autistic and give each category 7 factions give them the White Scars spot in Marines. >Rename World Eaters/EC/TS/DG into a Khorne/Slaanesh/Tzeentch/Nurgle factionOkay>and give them access to Dark Mechanicus, Chaos Demons and Traitor Guard so they have enough variety for a full proper armyFucking dumb. If you want to do Chaos right do it like this>Chaos Undivided (JUST CSM stuff, nothing else besides Daemon Princes and I guess Belakor too)>Khorne>Nurgle>Tzeench>Slaanesh>Chaos Knights>Lost and the Damned (Dark Mech, Traitor Guard, Chaos Titans, etc get lumped in here, basically Agents for Chaos armies>Soup Harlequins with the major Eldar factions They already are souped in lmao Harlequins haven't been their own faction for years>Soup Nids and GSC, who never really needed to be separate to begin withOk you're just dumb and are just lumping stuff together without recognizing that the two operate differently on the tabletop. Then again, you put Tau and Votann together presumably on the assumption that "Oh they trade with each other" despite the fact the two exist in two completely separate parts of the galaxy. Again, dumb ideas all around. Knights getting small foot soldier units that get buffs by being near Knights or something is the only decent thing you suggested.
>>98275262Seems like they've given up on making Blades for Hire their own thing since all the Kabal detachments now specify "Kabal or Blades for Hire units"
>create a unit you wish existed winning polluhhh, how would you go about thinking one up?
>>98275232Jes Goodwin is renown for his role in designing many things in 40k, but if there is one thing he has a specific liking for is designing rosters of equipments where things share a common internal language.It's difficult to find a range that doesn't have weapons designed by him, and he even intervened in the development of warcry specifically to set down the visual identity of the warbands' weapons.This is most often a very good thing, because you want an army to have its own language, but it creates the occasional hiccups where nonsensical elements are added just to make the gun have something in common with others (like the spinny bits on primaris), or stuff like the kroot guns looking cohesive even though they should have varied origins, or again design quirks that appear in multiple rosters of guns just because is drawn to add them, like other artists can end up drawing people with similar facial features (in this case it's the detailing on the tarellian gun matching the kroot ones, or primaris and votann guns having quite a bit in common).
>>98275236>Why does GW make guns like Bethesda?Because you don't know much else so everything looks like bethesda to you.
>>98275243agents, world eaters, emperor children, thousand sons, grey knights
>>98275288If only the Votann designs had keep that philosophy!They look like a bad mix of primaris and tau stuff, ugh. Easily the worst designed faction in the game.
>>98275202It's implied that a decent chunk of Haemonculi are pre-fall Eldar, and even participated in pleasure cults.
>>98275280Does a character count as a unit? Eldar windriders really need a leader. There used to be an autarch on jetbike.
>>98275280I basically already did that when we were doing Crucible Characters and I already said I'm not doing next month's collage after doing the last 12, but if I had to I guess I'd work on a Wraithseer? It technically exists in resin form but I suppose it would count.
>Imperium-centric show features Eldar>Eldar fans cheer and act cocky over it>Eldar in the show get to do the usual 'bad guys win the first act' shtick>Eldar fans go rabid as if it's the best 40k media ever>Third episode comes out and, as expected, the Imperium curb stomps the Eldar in the Imperium-centric show>Eldar fans act indignant and go back to bitching, moaning, and crying over itI really don't understand the mindset here. Did they expect the Eldar to win?
ANOTHER Eldar seether spergout? How many is that in the past few days?
>>98275134>>Imperial Knights+Men-At-Arms and serfs (cheap chaff scoring units to make army more fun to play against)Yeah, what Knights need is cheap ways to score! Fucking retards.
>>98275328I mean Eldar don't win in Eldar-centric stories so seems like a fair expectation
>>98275313its almost like the STCs are human in origin and they've been selling shit like magnarail to Tau, strange how that works
>>98275336I'm pointing out an observation I had while viewing general reactions people had to the reveal show on Twitter.
>>98275076Get yourself a squad of kasrkin. if you wanna stick with the krieg theme for the whole army, get the conversion bits from TinyLegend that makes krieg stormtroopers.
>>98275084Salamanders bro don't look he erased you.
>>98275313That's partially intentional because gw made votann from the fact that their technological tree has common roots with imperials, and with the fact that they are the demiurgs the tau are allies with.
>>98275084
>>98275328That's funny, implying anyone watches warhammer+.
>>98274127Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was quick and nimble and/or Blanchitsu and was left to your own interpretation.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my june collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's vote:https://strawpoll.com/YVyPva3lAgNHope to see a tribute or two to blanche
>>98275370nta but might be cheaper now to get the standalone grenadiers from them rather than just the extra parts, unless you have a good supply/STL of the regular kriegers.
>>98275204Would Chaos Knights players really be bothered if GW extended their codex into Dark Mechanicum?
>>98275328Quick, name three non-imperium centric animations on WH+
>>98275404Could we get more clarity on what "Create a new unit you wish existed" entails?
>>98275336Why do they inspire such spergouts anyway? They seem like a fairly innocuous faction all things considered.
>>98275404Vespid Queen when gw?I need to figure out how to take decent quality pics.
>>98274198pixar/oddworld looking mfs
>>98275469why would a dark mek book not have heldrakes, maulerfiends, forgefiends, defilers, venomcrawlers, and vashtorr?>well, they can be added too!then why the fuck are you even having an independent book instead of adding the 3 new darkmek shits into the one normal chaos book?
>>98275305>WE>EC>TS>SufferingNigga what? Chaos gets more love than nearly everything else.
>>98275469ain't it kinda a toss up if IW won't end up absorbing dark mech on table representation side at least?
>>98275475I think it's pretty self evidentwhat is confusing you
>>98275262Eldar codex is also designed this way and only aspects is really a whole range with more than 4 models. Just saying.
>>98275494I don't trust GW to add enough to allow me to play them with zero marines>oh but you can run something as a warpsmith*spits on you*
>>98275502that at least means there is something to lean back on
>>98274832>>98274837bunch of STLs exist of these and similar
>>98275501Like is it just stuff without plastic models? Would stuff in lore with just forgeworld stuff count?
>>98275500I don't see it happening considering how the new IW upgrades steers them more in the "imperial fights but evil" direction without so much as a mechanical arm anywhere
>>98275476there's an increasing amount of secondaries who come from HFY memes/videos (the term tertiaries has been brought up at times) about the imperium and marines specifically, and whose sole interaction with people in the hobby is arguments about power levels, politics and popularity in validation of their own position. they are part of a generation that doesn't consider a product something they buy to enjoy but something to identify and fight for, which means they absorb as part of their own personality the imperial xenophobia towards the other factions, and by extension their fans.eldar and tau in particular are especially hated because they stand in contrast with the comfortable headcanon of human superiority, in whatever practical or ideological field, so they have a pathological need to focus on, exaggerate, or make up completely, stuff to "bring them down".
>>98275514imperial fists* god damn it
>>98275504there's no obligation to add marines, you only feel that if they happen to be the most performing option, break from the waacfag mentality
>>98275004why should I fear the symbol of goodness?
>>98275516At the old gaming club I was part of half the guys there HATED Tau, Eldar and Necrons. They just didnt like having to adapt their strategies to deal with them. If it were up to them the entire game would be Marines, IG and Orks.
If the Emperor were to become a Chaos God and ascend as the Dark King, what would be his sacred number?Pretty sure everything but 1, 2 and 4 are already claimed by other gods.
>>98275523I don't have a waacfag mentality; I have a "I need to take exactly 3 characters and they can't be the same one multiple times" mentality. I have been this way since I got into the game.
>>98275476Marine faggots taking the bit too seriously. But also they’re a glass cannon faction and if there’s anything retards hate, it’s glass cannons.
>>98275532They sound based as hell.
>>98274198they look blocky... proppa boy needz sum thunderous, round cheeks, not this fridge physique
>>98275513I think it has to be something new, something that doesnt exist
>>98275538They weren't. One of them was the biggest sore loser I have ever met. He 35yo and through literal shit fits over bad rolls. He would suck all the life out of the room with his childish outbursts. He wouldn't have lost so often if he didnt smoke a gram of weed before every game.
>>98275548ESL
>>98275328there's an increasing amount of secondaries who come from videogames and anime memes/videos (the term tertiaries has been brought up at times) about the eldar and tau specifically, and whose sole interaction with people in the hobby is arguments about power levels, politics and popularity in validation of their own position. they are part of a generation that doesn't consider a product something they buy to enjoy but something to identify and fight for, which means they absorb as part of their own personality the anti-imperial propaganda from other factions, and by extension their fans.Marines and the Horus Heresy in particular are especially hated because they stand in contrast with the comfortable headcanon of non-human superiority, in whatever practical or ideological field, so they have a pathological need to focus on, exaggerate, or make up completely, stuff to "bring them down".
>>9827553412, like sigmar
>>98275516damn you were right
>>98275538A based club would be orks, deldar, tau, nids, and some marine guy who isn’t a total retard. That’s a big ask though
>>98275516You got one >>98275562
>>98275548I've known players like that.
>>98275356>>98275391>partially intentionalyes, but it's badly executed just like their combo of NASApunk and norse stuff.The ideas aren't bad, but the execution sucks, and the wokeshit pink haired side cut bullshit doesn't do them any favours, either.Necromunda squats had promise, but eventually they were let down by their terrible mechanical design (the big explorator excepted)
>>98274127Out of the Lascannon and kreig heavy stubber, which should I build for Kreig heavy weapons teams?
>>98275588I have never seen a stubber of any stripe do anything at any time.
>>98275356>All of the big Tau weapons are actually just knock-offs of DAOT weaponry that the Votann sold themThanks for the reminder.
>>98275588Lascannons. IG already has enough anti-infantry firepower on the units you will be taking anyway.
Dark mech range i could imagine>Tech sorcerer with 6" aura>tech engineer with unit buff>epic fabricator general>war dog epic with a tech priest sliming out of throne mechanicum, think like curseling of tzeentch >cultists/accursed servitors battleline>forgefiend>maulerfiend>venomcrawler (kit gets divorced from oblits)>Possessed Thallax cohort 3/6 squad (battle line with wardog epic)>soul grinder>harvester with vices/twin daemonbreath cannons for slaanesh (new kit)>Tzeentchian Calix Siege>nurglite Myrmidons>Khorne Kytan is back in plastic and small redesign so it's not cancer to build>Lord of Skullswhile some could see helldrakes and defilers in too but I didn't want to take too much from csm. didn't want to squeeze in too much from HH either but I think i'd make sense if they retained the ways to build them even if over millenia they became more and more daemon-infused
Do you have a group photo of your officers? Clockwise from bottom left we got Tempestor Haur Jimenez, Proctor Secz, [CLASSIFIED], Castellan Annapolis Nepobabbitt, and finally beloved Pater Cruor the totally cool priest.
IT'S UP
>>98275639I think that an emphasis on automata would be a good way to make them stand out from loyalist mechanicus and csm
>>98275616no, it's not that, or what anon said, the one significant tech the demiurgs sold to the tau is ion tech, not their entire tech tree
>>98275639>mechanicum stuff BUT SPIKY
HOW MUCH MORE CAN THEY MILK?
>>98275639>dude what if we took [thing imperium makes] and put a DAEMON in it??!??!?-Top minds in the Dark Mechanicus after spending 10000 years free from all restrictions and rules
>have to get chinks if I want the new chaos warriorsfuck you gw
>>98275639You must be atleast 18yo to post here.
>>98275721Calm down. It's just a reprint of previously published stories
>>98275269>Give DW white scars spotSounds good>Fucking dumbBut it makes total sense from a lore perspective for them to have cultist, Traitor Guard, and Dark Mechanicus hangers-on.Most hereteks are stated to work alone. The Dark Mechanicus isn't a monolithic organisation like the Mars Mechanicus.The Chaos Undivided would functionally work as a Lost and the Damned also.>Harlequins haven't been their own faction for yearsMy bad I was under the impression they were still a supplement. In that case that's one less change needed>just lumping stuff together without recognizing that the two operate differently on the tabletopSure they are different but I don't think that precludes souping them when they are both armies with lots of models focused on holding objectives who have perfectly valid lore reasons to be working together, and GSC also suck and need help. Just use detachments to retain play style variation but keep them in the same book>Then again, you put Tau and Votann together presumably on the assumption that "Oh they trade with each other" No I didn't. That was another anon
>>98275730They're releasing the halves separately in different boxes, retard.
Which faction's players whines the most when their codex isn't top tier?
>>98275761Eldar for sure.
>>98275758fuck you, that could be like 4 months from now
For the fags that want traitor guard, how would you differentiate them from normal guard.What army rule would replace the orders system?What loyal guard units would be excluded from traitor guard.What unique units would traitor guard have.What aesthetic would you want traitor guard to have?>blood pact>Vraks renegades>cadians with spikes >something entirely new
Should I get Imperial Guard or Tau if I like big gun armies?
>>98275639You will get >a chaos androids monstrous infantry unit, with fleshy parts>negavolt cultists kill team>tech-heretek-herald of vashtorr special character>generic heretek character>warp-xenarite artillery piece with token chaos squat artillerist>a squad of nighthaunts with mechandritesand you will not like it because it's just stuff shoved in the csm codex
>>98275770what do you like more? Mechs or Tanks?
>>98275724well you use what you can get in the eye, sure you could replace the heresy kits with entirely new designs depending on how delusional you want to get without keeping in mind that it's GW we're talking about and they would reuse at least some sculpts>>98275771my starting idea was a csm detachment that took away marines for some mortals but then i remembered the heresy range and that i might as well poach some shit
Maybe Im just getting old and bitter but ever since the nu40k introduction of the primaris marines in 8th I have been hoping GW would implode and become "abandonware" that fans could just do whatever with but what ended up happening is the game is more popular and more expensive than ever. I have not been able to stay competitive in the new editions because I have not given them any money for new competitive models since 7th. Idk why I even still bother but its probably because I have no friends or acquaintances outside of the table top gaming bubble. I don't even have work friends because Ive been working remote since Covid.
>>98275761Space Marines, obviously. Guard gets the special distinction of the fanbase continuing to complain their codex is bad even when it is top tier though.
>which army should I apply thousands of dollars and thousands of hours building/painting/playing/displaying?What kind of question is this? Why is it asked so often? Only you can answer that. Only you can make the decision on something that is entirely subjective, and is your own money and free time and enjoyment. Why do you even ask someone else to choose for you? And why does it happen so often? This is like asking what food will I like, or what painting in the museum will I like the most. I feel like I'm going insane
>>98275763Okay, but when haven't Eldar found some synergy in their vast codex of specialists that makes them good again?
>>98275499World Eaters and Emperor's Children suffer badly from range variety. WE lacks low points units to fill gaps and EC is basically just infantry
>>98275771this would be enough for meI really just need characters + a big gun + some infantry dudes with better weapons than asswipe cultists
>>98274885>>playing knights is fineFalse.
>>98275794Literally right now, desu
>>98275790The modal Guard player just wants to turn off their brains and leafblow their way to victory like it's 5e again.
>>98275779Between the two it's mechs. But it's not so clear between the Basilisk and Mechs.
>>98275770Do you want to play outside the movement and shooting phases? Do you have the time, money, and inclination to paint 100 guardsmen.
>>98275798Cry harder. Knights are some of the best models in the line so people are going to want to play them. This reminds me of back in 4th edition this guy I knew refused to play against Tau or Tyranids.
>>98275807To their benefit and to be more fair in that assessment I gave, guard players more than anyone else are playing for the feel of the army they want to play first and what's actually strong second. You can have a very strong codex that is still bad from a fluff or mechanical depth perspective or a very large model range that still does not support the niche you want from the Army. Guard always has a golden path to victory, but they are littered with a dozen different flavors of poorly supported niches that people love and adore as well
>>98275499>world eaters get more love>starved range>the only model release they got in 4 years was repeats of the shit everybody hated from their launch>tsons>older than death guard>less than half the units death guard hasEC deserves the nothing it got
>>98275761Eldar. And they always whine despite always having been at the top of the competitive rankings since 2nd edition.Before the infamous 2nd SM codex in 8th, they kept their bullshit Flying Circus for 3 fucking editions.
>>98275761Marines, obviously.
>>98275837marines are literally never top tier you nogames faggotthey're always middle of the pack or trailing towards the back
>>98275305>world eater>emperor's children>thousand sons>grey knightsNo Patrick, marine variants are not an army
>>98275761Guardfags.
>>98275841The fact that marines are played by mouth breathing retards does not make their codex bad.
>>98275818That answers it.
>>98275829I'm honestly in awe at how Eldar might just be the best army for longevity. Just get a reasonable army, maybe add some stuff here and here, and you will always find some way to be good. They're almost anti-FOMO.
>>98275849(you) tried
>>98275842Go tell that to GW, they're the ones treating them as separate armies instead of supplements.
>>98275837>>98275842>>98275849space your shitposts to be more than exactly on post cooldown
>>98275849This. Ive met marines players that ran the gambit between brain dead to some of the best players Ive met.
Wokehammer is getting its back broken today and your black pilling
>>98275769Not a traitor guard guy myself, but I would be tempted if it was Blood Pact mixed with some sort of space-ISIS as a mirror of how Cadians and Kriegers are in the main IG codex. No idea what the rules would be, though.>>98275807Genuinely cannot remember the last time I heard someone use the word "modal".>>98275826Every IG player has his particular favorite flavor of bullshit, which isn't always to your detriment, and I think it gives them a nice texture. Does he have the cheesiest Stormlord strat imaginable or a recreation of a hypothetical German army of 1920? You could get literally anything!
>>98275861hey that's really cool little guy stay on twitter instead of showing us what some faggots on an unrelated site are talking about
What if Sisters of Battle had cavalry?I think that'd be pretty cool.
>>98275841Have you, like, played ultramarines or iron hands in the last 4 years?
>>98275871>iron hands post 7ththe larp never stops
>>98275867Sister's power armor lets them run at 40 kilometers per hour, they don't need cav.
>>98275874That's why you should never listen to /40kg/'s opinions about faction rules, the vast majority of it is shit outdated for over a decade.
>>98275879Yeah but they'd look really cool
>>98275871iron hands haven't been a thing in over a decade anon
>>98275874They had a moment at the end of 8th, but there were several good Marine subfactions anyway
>Character on big dino>Character on small dino>Farseer/Warlock follower of Isha with nature-like powers >Dragon knights/Dragon masters>Riders on flying dino unit>Big dino with heavy weapons>Swarm unit of reptiles or small dinos>Biggest feral dino with no riders>Infantry unit (could be an upgrade sprue for guardians or rangers)>WraithstallionMy perfect roster
>>98275867I could see them having bikes
>>98275841Exactly! Very few times in all 40k editions have marines been the top faction in terms of rules besides the end of 8th. And since they're the most popular faction, most players tend to be casuals.>>98275853that's also why Eldar have been a WAACfag favourite for decades. The only significant purchase they had to do in 20 years was their big flyers.Tau players have been historically also WAACfags, but nowhere as bad.
>>98275861>twittercap posting
>>98275879Then they can give a power armors and power horns to their horses so they can impale heretics while galloping at 240 kmph
>>98275861Lmao is this real
>>98275890The kill team already provides 3 hero characters for the faction
are "waacfags" in the room with us now?
>>98275903Waacfaggotry implies playing the game
>>98275893When Apocalypse came out I bought a formation box of 3 Falcons. Those 3 Falcons carried my army for all of 5th through 7th editions.
>>98275912Any Eldar player can use 3-6 Wave serpent/Falcons/Fire Prism hulls. I'd recommend printing the turrets as needed, though.
>>98275861It’s twitter drama but for those who don’t know this will make most woke fans utterly crash out He’s a ufc champion who is outwardly a chud
>>98275923Nobody gives a fuck, fuck off faggot
>>98274309edging nids i was hoping to be done with by now
>>98275932You obviously care otherwise you wouldn't be using expletives.
>>98275280Make a unit that you think would be interesting or funny but won't break the game so people call you a simp for your favorite faction. Example:Warp Gate of Tzeentch -- Thousand Sons, Chaos DaemonsT1 M0" S7+ W3 LD 8+ OC 0 Unit comp 1 -- 20 ptsDeep strike, Deadly DemiseFixed Point in Time -- This unit cannot Move, Advance, or Fall Back.Warp Gate -- One time for each of your movement phases, a unit within 6" of a Warp Gate of Tzeentch that has not moved may redeploy within engagement range of another allied Warp Gate of Tzeentch. A unit redeployed this way is considered to have Advanced this turn.Unstable Chaos Portal -- When this unit is destroyed, an opponent chooses a unit you control, then you roll a D6. On a 1, the chosen unit is redeployed within the Warp Gate of Tzeentch's engagement range. This occurs before Deadly Demise happens.>whyfunialso its 40 points to essentially give shitty deep strike to one unit per turn, or a retreat to save a unit with a little bit of tzeench trickery for the lulz
>>98275960I play dropzone commander and an e tire faction (Shaltari) is built around teleportation shenanigans. It is not fun to play against.
any tips or go-to guides on how to do white armor and not look like shit?
>>98275977Base coat in white. Paint on your secondary and tertiary colours. Finished.
>>98275879Maybe in the books, but on TT they're as fast as anyone else, down to having the same Rhinos as every SM chapter. They have jetpack troops that can run as fast as a Rhino, making them faster than some of the game's actual horse-cavalry. Really the thing is that they don't have many true "heavy" units, basically everything besides their walkers is low-AP and low-toughness but high-damage.I wouldn't mind a bike squad a la the Space Marines that's a Seraphim but with armor instead of deep strike, maybe even get a vehicle-focused detachment in the pile since everyone plays them with a bunch of vehicles and walkers anyways.
>>98275769There's nothing that would differentiate them beyond looks.
>Stream and article say Exodite rules were coming soon>This week is just about AoS narrative garbage that nobody playsGW's scheduling stuff is once again laughable.
>>98275770Tau are more fun and have more unit type diversity and more ways to play the army. Guard are for military Sim autists
>>98275960give it infiltrators so it can be deployed outside your deployment zone t1. 40 points to give a unit bad infiltrators or bad deep strike at least makes it versatile. also changed the M to - and add “this unit can only choose to remain stationary in the movement phase”alternatively M 0 “this unit cannot advance. this unit changes it’s M value to 6 when within 8 inches of a friendly THOUSAND SONS psyker or someshit.”I think as you wrote it was a little too narrow
>exodites box will cost probably 190 dollars>no one will want to buy the beast snaggas>even if they did the ebay cut means you'dThis is way worse than shadowhunt, even though I fucked up by not charging more for the insidiants to recoup costs, you literally can't get back what you paid on this box.Painfully, this is probably a pass. I'll wait for Battleforce: Exodites to come out in december 2027.
>>98276049nah, I’m excited to pick up more beast snaggas
Eldarfags deserve to gripe when they get nerfed because not everyone is a tourneyfagI don't care if some autistic fat person is tabling another autistic fat person with his poorly painted meta list in a tournament with cardboard terrain. I'm not buying and slapchopping the latest hotness so that will never be me. Why should I be punished?
>>98275280>>98275960I would love a "duelist" aspect warrior. Something that symbolizes the idea of honorable one on one combat. But I don't think I could make it mechanically distinct from a Solitaire.
>>98275658Sort of
>>98276059They already have dire avenger exarchs or does the dire sword no longer insta-kill a enemy character on a successful Ld check? I have not played against an eldar player since 5th edition.
>>98274356Really how much does a person’s choice of warhammer 40k army and paint jobs/conversions of said warhammer 40k army reflect said person’s values and beliefs?Are warhammer 40k armies treated like profile pictures where Greco Roman busts/k-on anime profile pictures mean racism and picrew means underage or a police investigation is needed?
>>98276087No, it's just a regular melee weapon now.
>>98275960>>98276045>nothing stops you from teleporting a warp gate to another warp gateWhat happens in this scenario? Mustard gas?Honestly I think that's pretty fine even with the infiltrator keyword, at most it lets you get onto a center objective turn 1 which ksons already can do with their bots. If I bothered to make a unique unit for my own faction it'd probably just end up being another CSM vehicle sidegrade to the Vindicator. I love tank shock so much bros.
Are harlequins strong in tourneys or something? Every time I try to get Harlequin Model (used) on the cheap to complete my collection, someone is always trying to outbid me on the other end and push it into the "I can just buy it new for about the same amount" territory.
>>98276092It's a reflection of their values, sure. Whatever army you play, if you don't paint your miniatures before you put them on a game board I know you're worth less as a person.
>>98276140That’s fair.Currently I’m worthless but in my defense I am going to change that.>t. Getting printer station set up.
>>98276118Harleys are just part of eldar not a standalone army, they go for high prices because they are typically scarce
>>98275280Take an existing model and give it different wargear, basically. Or repurpose a unit from a different army with an appropriate conversion.I think my model will be the voidraven bomber I've been turning into a corsair model with some weapon swaps.
>>98276140If you put it on the table only after you've painted it you are guaranteed to suffer from the new model curse. Besides , only an idiot would buy and paint a model before they know how it plays on the table top. My group proxies all the time to see if new shit is worth buying.
>>98275861>krieg fans are literally brain damaged and concussedmakes sense
>>98276188blessed post. red butchers soon
>>98276092They don't, unless the army in question is Emperor's Children. Then you should be kept away from kids.
>>98276092Clearly it says something about their aesthetic values. That doesn't necessarily say anything about any other values.
>>98276016You missed the part where they said they were revealing a new mini tomorrow smart guy
>>98276188>only an idiot would buy and paint a model before they know how it plays on the table top
>>98276249for what faction?
>>98276092in real life, no
is buying chinese recasts from ebay based?
>>98276016>This week is just about AoS narrativemore tolerable than new kill team slop.
>>98276264It just says "Here on Warhammer Community, we’ll have a miniatures reveal tomorrow, (...)".
>>98276280No it just means you pay the retard tax on chinese knockoffs
>>98276280>>98276307This.Based would be to write the seller, ask if he is actually the recaster or just a reseller and get the actual recasters contact that way. Then you can write him in wechat whenever you need something.
>>98276259Not that poster but not everyone in this hobby considers painting the main attraction. There are huge numbers of players who only put up with the painting so they can play in tournaments. Call me a WAACfag all you want, I don't buy anything until Ive tested it in a proxy game more than once.
>>98276118Not strong, just desired because cool.
>>98276231Say exactly what you mean or shut up.
Assuming Combat Patrol is good this edition, getting the starter set + combat patrol terrain is good for both regular games and combat patrol/500pts smaller games. I just hope the price isn't crazy
>>98275861>muh hecking fictional faction/character would agree with meThis shit is just the fucking same as liberals posting about "how X in real life is LITERALLY what Voldemort would do" but for rightwingers.I fucking hate it. This is fucking Cringe, there's no better word this.This is embarrassing to look at.
>>98276322>huge numberoverwhelming minorityyour delusions do not reflect reality
>>98276329came to the thread to see if there was any world eaters content and the first hting i see is that anon's post ending in 88. it's simply a good omen
>>98276342To be fair if he's a tournament player most of the other players he knows are also going to be tournaments players.
>>98276344dreadclaws soon trust the plan
>>98276356need red butchers and a butcher lord. im frothing at the mouth
I'm coming back after 20 years. I like things that are broken, preferably melee, preferably with extremely high point minatures, and absolutely no aeldar or space marines. What do I play?I would like tyranids to have a giant world eating unit but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>>98276344world eaters don't need 'content', they already got their pity model, a cultist kill team and a defiler.t. gw
is there an actual lore reason why iyanden and alaitoc have inverted color schemes of each other?or just a coincidence
>>98276188>only an idiot would paint a modelThis is WAAC faggotry at its zenith
>>98276393>fill this sqaure with the paint bucket to reveal the pathI don't think that's how it works
>>98276322>Call me a WAACfag all you want, I don't buy anything until Ive tested it in a proxy game more than once.I physically cannot imagine someone not just buying what looks cool to them>Bought the Krieg launchbox even though Drier/Death Riders ended up being shit and Combat Engineers got a wristslap nerf the moment the Codex launched>Bought a whole Eldar Wraithhost even though Wraiths were shit compared to Aspect Host armies>Bought Angron even though he's been going downhill ever since the start of 10thImagine buying models based on made-up numbers in a PDF that might change in 3 months time.
>>98276426The deep lore of the color wheel of david
>>98276393Custodes
I just ordered a custom hat with my homebrew chapter emblemyes I will be wearing it to the LGS while I lose every random matched game
>>98276447>the mon-keigh knowSHUT IT DOWN
>>98276393I solved it
>>98276453Do Knight suck? Or some demons?
>>98276322This is less retarded because WAAC and more because unit viability changes all the time so deciding to buy something based on its current mechanical strength is pointless when it could become super strong or useless at any timesee:>Ruststalkers completely useless in 8th edition>afterwards they become pretty good while their competing but uglier unit infiltrators become worsedesu the only mechanical parts you should really care about is if something is an ally unit to your current army since allies can get arbitrarily fucked out of being usable by your army unpredictably
>>98276470Knights are a gimmick army, if the enemy builds a list to counter you you can't do anything, if they don't you just slowly winthey're very boring all around
>>98275721The Bore us heresy got stagnant real quick but I would be interested in reading Garro meeting Mortarion
>>98276459still less cringe than a team shirt or faction tattoo
>>98276393death guard are the most consistently well above average army due to designer bias
>>98276470Chaos knights are good too. Really, I would just pick what you like the most based on aesthetics.
>>98276482I see. Gimmick is not bad, but if its so easily counterable then I imagine I will not have fun.>>98276497I haven't really had a look but I was under the impression that normal knights are superior.
>>98276515chaos knight wardog spam was so oppressive that for nearly 3 years it was impossible to get any wardogs anywhere since comp players sucked them all up
>kroot kill team>followed by 5 unit kits and 3 small heroes>krieger kill team>followed by 5 unit kits and 1 medium hero >corsair kill team >followed by 2 unit kits (one an update pf an old eldar model) and 2 small heroes >exodites kill team>worst case scenario: sentinels, megadon, bonesinger, some other small fucker>best case scenario: pteradon, stegadon, megadon, sentinels, bright stallion, bonesinger, other small fucker, named guyhard to imagine them getting truly big units if you ask me
How does the force disposition system work exactly? Each mission archetype, say Purge, have 5 opposing types and you pick the Purge card corresponding to your opponent's disposition and vice-versa?
>>98276426>iyandenAll of them re dead>alaitocGW forgot they existed
>>98276393This guy missed the entire history of /tg/ until this point.>giant unitForge world has shit like the hierophant but those resin models almost never get used because they're too big for normal games. It's egregious GW lists Titans/Traitor Titans as 'armies' on their website in the first place.
>>98276526But this has changed recently with a change of rules I take it?
>>98276393>no space marines or eldarThat's like half the models in the game
>>98276461I’ve got your number Xenos scum
ZOATS
>>98276627did you know that zoats only eat zoatibix?
>>98276426>iyandenthey are dead>alaitocthey are Andy Chambers' OC craftworld, so no future for them
>>98276669I really like this picture
>>98276393I was expecting loss or the game you just lost it
>>98276582wouldn't bright stallion be knight sized?
New to the hobby, can't paint because of the weather, so I'm working on basing my test models, whats the best way to make flooring like pic related with plasicard?
Getting into airbrushing. Should I get the gaahleri turbox mini compressor kit that comes with a GHAD-39 or the ambition series kit that comes with a budget airbrush but a GTS-06 compressor?
>>98276737Get a cheapo chink compressor, just get the air brush from them.
>>98276732No good way that I know of with plasicard since you need depth.For basing models you are probably best off getting the rollers from Greenstuff world + milliputty and just doing your bases that way. The rollers + milliputty are really cheap and scale well across an army.
>>98276718yeah, but also there are degrees to a knight's size, it's a very spindly unit concept, eldar already have a proper knight sized thing, and it's not the first time gw downscaled a knight-tier concept into something smaller, like trygons, exocrines and haruspex.I think they could easily get away with making the stallions the eldar equivalent to the armigers, which, of you compare the size difference between a wraithknight and a normal imperial knight could still end up having them as tall as a knight destrier or trygon, just way thinner in every way.
>>98275529Because Imperium is... le bad?
>>98275404I tried pitching it down and to the side to give it a little imitation of speed :P
>>98276760Thanks anon, the rollers are actually perfect, will any color milliput work or should I try to go with yellow grey?
>>98276831The regular milliput should work just fine but i find adding some green-stuff to it makes it easier to work with and less prone to snapping/cracking
>>98276870I just use super sculpey
>>98276831I use yellow grey and put a dusting of flour over it like you are rolling cookie dough. Haven't had any issue yet. Have a picture of some of my dudes with a roller base.
where the fuck is /ktg/are they ded again?
>>98276718Yes>Dragon Lord model named Lord Quantus and his lore is being the named dragon lord and there is no generic version>Dragon Seer named Frongo who is the same thing but a woman>Bright Stallion that is a Wraithlord with an upgrade>Dragon Knights but on pteradons so they're a flying unitThere's your Exodites
>>98276945They've been dead pretty much since three months after the new edition launched. Marine team meta has not been kind to the general playerbase that actually likes KT.
>>98276945No one cares about that game, assume it anon
>>98276469With or without cheating?
>>98276945There's little to talk about KT that does not overlap with 40kg, and people actually interested in the rules/gameplay have better places to disscuss it (usually Discord).Casuals do not care>>98276968>>98276981Delusional. KT is alive and well, or it wouldn't be getting constant releases.The last edition has switched from a focus on GEQ teams to MEQ/Elites. But it has also added solo/coop games against mooks and bosses. It's great for both casuals and for sweaty tourneyfags
What's your dream 40K spin-off game you wish they would make someday? Skirmish game, alternative rule set, box set game, or something else?
>>98277103Heralds of Ruin, you know when it was the middle ground between Combat Patrol and Shadow War Armageddon.Also a less retarded melee for Shadow war Armageddon would be nice
>>98276945the last time I complained about GW being lazy and scalping KT boxes with increasingly bad deals, some fag in /ktg/ threw a tantrum at me and told me to leave the billion dollar company alone. That was what, March 25th?
>>98277103Commorragh mercenary gangs and arena blood sports. Basically Sec Maegra and the Port of Lost Souls as Xeno Necromunda and Bloodbowl.
>>98277051I ask because I tried solo mode today and wanted to share and ask/check if they have some resources for it. Like more flavorful enemies or some missions or stuff like it.
If terrain is a magical curtain that blocks all line of sight I should be allowed to blow it up
>>98277103A fire warrior/boltgun style game mode where one player plays as a single model and the other plays as an entire enemy army complete with dreadnoughts and greater daemons. But for some reason the guy playing the single model has insane stats and gets better weapons the more he kills
HA
>>98277144Didn't the Khorne Lord of Skulls unironically have a coolaid man effect last year or did I just imagine that?
>>98277103Spearhead, now that I can actually afford tank squadrons.
>>98277149I think they briefly had something like that with the Space Marine board game but I have to imagine the game as way too simplistic and kind of dull.
>>9827717140k spearhead seems like the most obvious slam dunk in the world and they just totally dropped combat patrol as a game mode entirely instead of trying to do anything at all with it. The book they just put out is insulting and doesn't even have any game rules in it and reads like a fucking sales catalog.
>>98277181Spearhead as in the tank-focussed game expansion from about twelve years ago with special tank squadron formations
Wanted to try out the stamping plates I'd heard about so I got the Ork one and tried it out on the new Warboss' banner.Pretty happy with the results. Will definitely make painting designs faster than freehanding, though I really couldn't get the checkerboard patterns to work so I had to just freehand those as normal.
>>98277103A 15mm game built around a classic a scale closer to a 1000point game (a few squads, a few specialists, a big thing), but without enforced squads ala LOTR
>>98277194Oh. That one. lolThey kind of played at it a bit with the Armoured Gauntlet scenario book that just came out at the end of 10th and added some spearhead rules as an optional game mode.
>>98277181Yeah, I would really like to see a 500-1000pt game mode that isn't trivially easy to wreck without some ridiculous community banlist.
>>98277257...does Combat Patrol/Boarding Patrol/Incursion have a community ban list?
>>98276732Plastic canvas, then cut out a grid on plasticard or cereal boxes (better because you'll need large, flat sheets) and glue it over the top.
>>98277263There's that gladiatoral arena thing that's trivially broken and stupid.
>>98277267How well does this work on models that push fits onto the base?
>>98277257There are much better systems for games at that scale. 40k is about big battles and balancing it for low points games just doesnt work. I give you an example of a roughly 1500pts Space Marine list from 5th edition:1x Reclusiarch w/jump pack3x Dreads w/multimelta, heavy flames in a drop pod2x10 Tacticals w/plasma, sgt combi-plasma in a rhino3xLandspeeder Typhoon squadron w/multimelta1x10 Assaults w/3 plasma pistols (one is the Sgt.There is literally nothing the majority of all comers lists can do against this list. I know because Ive played it and I won 2/3 games I played with it by turn 4, especially ona board with lots of terrain so the drop pods become huge obstacles to enemy vehicle movement if they survive the multi-melta & missile alpha strike.
>>98277305I agree. I think you almost have to create a new game like KT or LOTR to make that scale fun.
>>98276239Night Lords players should also be kept away from kids but for other reasons.>t. Night Lords player
>>98275127Thanks, I do like the riders, only reason I didn't pick them was because I assumed the horses would be a pain in the ass to paint, but it probably can't be worse than the krieg's masks anyways lol>>98275216Looking it up, I really really like this list, I expected to be closer to what an 'army' would look like, but seems like I'm far from even halfway there kekI glued the armoured sentinel completely though because I just couldn't be arsed to paint the pilot and figure out how to keep the top off and on easily (but now I got me some of those magnets that would've done just that), I'll keep it in mind in case I end up getting another sentinel, I might, they're cool, and I'm definitely getting some artillery, artillery is just cool as fuck, I don't care how bad it is in game, just gotta figure out how to make it workThanks senpai>>98275370I really love the idea of trying to stick to a theme, I've been bashing my head on a wall trying to get my sentinel's color scheme to look like my kriegs, since I can't use the default one (very green, or very blue) and I tried going for some kind of ww2 german gray/blue scheme that they had for their tanks that would fit in well and couldn't get the paint mix right yetBut conversion kits are really cool, I'd probably even consider getting a 3D printer just to make this shit myself, I'm assuming people in the hobby don't really care if your units end up looking a bit different here and there and you do this kind of shit, I don't really plan on doing anything like tournaments anyways
>>98277381Conversions of all sorts are a normal part of the hobby. "Green stuff", which is a modelling putty that you can paint on after it sets, is so popular for modifications that GW sells their own brand (I hear it's terrible but the point is they know this is a thing and they actively encourage it). As far as I know, the main thing is that in tournaments if you have too much weird bullshit the organizers might make you prove that it's an actual GW model under all that stuff. Also tournaments and uncool LGS players are likely to have a cow if they notice your shit is wholly 3d printed, but if you actually painted the things and aren't stupid it can be very hard to tell without a magnifying glass.
>>98277103A proper 40k epic scale game as good as the nostalgia tinted following say epic Armageddon is.
>>98277381No one I've played with or against in 20 years has ever cared about conversions / proxies with actual effort / kitbashes.If you show up with an unpainted shitty low quality plastic 3d printed meta army with 0 effort then yeah people will shit on you. But... to anyone not on the spectrum its pretty clear why.
>>98277263I would have loved if boarding patrol was included in the rulebook instead of jewed out across paywalled books never to be played by anyone.
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>>98277496Early and made to troll, do not migrate.
>>98277510Looks fine to me
>troll thread instantaneously degraded into shitflinging and measuring oldfag peenYea that's what I thought.
>>98277288You'll have to cut the tab off and glue them on with super glue.
>>98275328No Flyboyz, no watch
>>98274624>I'm not sure why people hate snaggas so much anywayThey look like age of sigmar models so I don't like them
>>98275841At the end of 7th there was a detachment that gave you 6 free razorbacks. That was pretty busted
>>98275977base coat gray, then dry brush white
