Titanicus STILL winning editionPrevious heresy: >>98278424 >HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/1accdP>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/Thread Answer: Yes, you should absolutely play Titanicus
I agree, but only the 1st edition, not the incompatible money grab that came out a few years ago.
. . . and /lig/, or Ligma as we call it
30k Epic Armageddon > Titanicus + LIgmabut console wars are stupid, post models
>>98297265Fluffy artillery and tank choices for IW?
>>98297352Arquitorsthey're already facing away from the enemy
now that I think about it, isn't the "Adeptus Titanicus" title inaccurate for a 30k game? the Adepta are labels for the different government organizations as they exist after the various reforms of the scouring and such, aren't they?
>>98297389the original game was called Adeptus Titanicus, it's a remakethey probably wanted to use the title to hook in nostalgic older players
were there literally any news about next scouring book?
>>98297397yeah they said it's coming with the plastic 28mm imperator titan
>>98297397Wrong thread. This one is about HH, no off topic posts thank you very much. You scouring niggers need to fuck off and make your own thread already.
>cut the backpack off the chaplain from the cata praetor + chaplain box>greenstuff the missing bit of cloak together>was about to glue a jump pack on, realize I was about to put a jump pack on a cloak>can't decide if putting a generic tactical power pack or a jump pack on him is more retarded
I am in the proces having to build some centurions/pretors/champions. And I have seen the new w40k venguard kit, especialy the two handed sword guy. What do you guys think wouldn't it look cool on a 2.0 ax pretor body?
>>98297623kys
>>98297623No, it would look bad. Just don't use those bits, there are shittons of other bits to use
Man why are fire drake terminators so weird looking? Did they have a choice between cataphractii and tartaros in 1.0 and that's why they're an indescript mixture of both?
>>98297741From the rear it is very obviously cataphractii. The only design feature firedrake armour shares with tartaros is the slightly rounded top plate, nothing more.
>>98297726>>98297631are there any two handed swords held like that, I like the kits GW makes, but their power armoured stuff looks very similar even if it is different type of things. Do you think I could take the two handed eviscarator, cut off the blade thing and mount a large long sword blade on it or would it look wierd too?
>>98297623Bait but you get the rope anyways.
>>98297623>>98297631Modern 40K Space Marines (which are almost exlusively seo-called primaris now) are quite out of scale with Horus Heresy counterparts.If you still want to use some 40K bits, I'd ask you to first consider why you feel the need to do so since they usually don't fit the setting - but I'd also recommend that you put the parts on third-party bodies. Tortuga Bay is notorious for making very wide and bulky marines, and primaris arms actually work quite well on those. I saw a great simple kitbash at my LGS that had Tortuga SG with plastic SG arms.Another thing to consider is the oversized helmets, which look downright comical on a HH body and vice versa. 3D printing is the obvious solution to most of this. Save money, get the pieces you actually want instead of just making a kinda-cope.
>>98297332This, once I get back home from work I'll post some pic of my armoured company.
Had a friend paint this little titan officer fella for me
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>>98297799Turns out... little Titan fella(play a record Karl)
>>98297799He's going to live here
>>98297623Are you the Dark Angels guy from the other day?
>>98297795fuck i hate how bulky his bodies look. i got some lightning claws from him for some NLs im going to build in mkiv though which look pretty killer, top notch casts/prints...
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>>98297820Love how this shows he didn't even bother to do even the bare minimal possible search on GW's store and just jumped to >I have seen the primaris minis on an ad and that's what I want to run for HH
>>98297787Anon the eviscerator from the melee upgrade sprue are you going to tell me that the HH sprue is somehow "not HH" too?>>98297795I am not that fond of working with resin. I will look for a proper big blade for the eviscerator arms. Thanks for the help
>>98297803I haven't decided on my legion yet. I am thinking about something between Blood Angels or Shattered Legion in red armour. >>98297827that is an very expensive and resin model. It is nice. But I would rather buy the jump pack character and take that sword, if one day the model will be orderable by the store I go to.
>>98297816Yeah, they're totes rubbish right anon, I also much prefer twin...I mean, svelte manly Marines to smelly masculine ones!
>>98297875>primarsissies get the rope>I will suck the virile seed out of 3rd party legally distinct galaxy warriors cocks
>>98297855A recaster sells the sword and arms for 3 dollars.
>>98297850>Can I use this primaris weapon in HH?No>So ThEn YoUrE sAyInG tHaT tHiS oThEr HeReSy WeApOn IsNt HeReSy?No, you fucking retard.
>>98297816Man I wish we never went past FW's style and proportions and that new resin things were still handsculpted.
>>98297855End of the day, it's your modelsYou'll be paying a premium either way, you might as well splurg for the model you will like rather than just a bit.
>>98297979Anon, If I am a retard then I don't know what you are. I want a broad swords, held in a two handed grip in plastic. If the primaris one is not okey, then I asked if I took the two handed grip eviscerator and replaced the blade with a broad sword blade, from lets say the 2.0 HH sword pretor model or any other large broad sword bit that is in plastic. My confusion comes from the lack of knowladge if saber or basket hilt style hand protection was used by marines in the era of Horus Heresy. and what ever it would look okey, as this is the first kitbash or conversion I am making. Plus what If I took a blade from w40k that is known to be from 30k times, like the sword that the Lion has or the blades from the previous sanguinary guard model kit? From what I understand the original Sanguinary Guard are wearing and using weapons, identical to the unit that existed in HH?
>>98298029To give an example. Would this sword be okey on a centurion. Probably the shoulder pads too, maybe the jump pack also.
Has GW painted themselves into a corner?If they revert back to 2.0's system they'll alienate all the new players and the ones who like 3.0If they stick with 3.0 for the next edition, all the grogs will just stick with 2.0What can be done?
>>98298053I've both yet to meet somebody who has only played third or seen somebody play second after third came out. Heresy players are heresy players. I don't think it matters much either way.
>>98298053>all the grogs will just stick with 2.0I'm playing 1st edition hh and will keep doing so until I get bored.
>>98298029You literally asked if you could up use a primaris two handed sword from the new sternguard kit for your 30k praetor. The answer is fucking no. Then you accused me of saying the two handed eviscerator chainsword from the 30k melee weapons upgrade sprue isn't 30k. You're a fucking retard.Either use 30k bits, print something, or convert something.
>>98298090the two handed swords from w40k are swords from Horus Heresy times though. That is why they are called relic blades. So he is kind of a right.
>>98298029Oh man, just do whatever you want. Why are you even asking thoughts on 4chan if you are not willing to accept them? People here mostly buys recasts, some throws shitload of money on original resin, some fags buys nu plastic shit, someone event likes the nu cata-strophe-phractii, but all of us autistic retards here have a consensus: do not fucking use primaris bits. This is the worst thing you can do and all of us will hate you forever and despise your posts.
>>98298240Even unhelmeted heads?
>>98298334Nta but yes.
>>98298358Grim. Dark, even.Back to painting my Femstodes I guess...
>>98298334No, Calas have a wonderful head and I will for sure use it in one of my psycho terror squad warrior
>>98298476Calas Typhon doesn't have an unhelmeted head nor is he a primaris marine, what are you talking about?
I think these are my favorite models I've ever owned/painted. Great sculpts.
>>98298490>blue eyesThat is a very cool idea, I'm stealing that.
>>98297741It's just cataphractii without pteruges and the usual trim
>>98298486Ok, I misread. Yes the unhelmeted heads are also forbidden by decree.
>>98298486And btw here is his unhelmeted head
>>98298519You're right, I was thinking about 40K since that's the subject of the discussion.
Imagine listening to nogames and nomodels on a aged website about how to kitbash your own models lol.What are you going to do next, tell me I can't use warmahordes bitz? The scope of the faggotry is actually off the charts now.
Trolling used to be believable.
>>98297798>>98297332I'm halfway done, I just need to do >6 legion lightnings>20 outriders>6 techmarine squads>a legion stormblade >a company command squad and finish up >legion malcadors>techmarine rhinos>the last artemis aa turret>first demicompany company las vindisThen I'll move on to a company of bitter iron for the IHs. Loads of heavy armour and immortals. After that I'll try to make as many of the other guys on Bodt as possible and I have loads of ideas.
>>98297513look if they can have topknots in front of air intakes and frankly if they can go helmetless with one or more giant fucking jet engines strapped to their backs then they can wear cloaks while they do itthey're not exactly health and safety first health and safety second
>>98297875I had sex with twins once, now I'm banned from the kennels
>>98298540this feels like the kind of wasteful posting it would be better to have scripted a bot to do
>>98298560I think I'll also put some red on one of the vindi demicompanies to mimic the FW scheme just to break up the scheme a bit.
>>98298090HH fags are even worse rivet counters than historical wargamers. Imagine being this uptight about some GW slop game.
Use whatever bits you want, not my problem you’re a retard who paid to have models that look like shit.
>>98298611I sincerely doubt that any models are getting bought by that anon, to me it just reads like someone fishing for (you)s from people too autistic to ignore him.
It's an officer, of the parts scale to each other, call it artificer armor. I don't see the problem.
You, yes you! What do we think about dreadnought rules up to this point from last year?
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>>98298761>>98298764>>98298772Wow, more tranny art. Just what we needed, thank you.
>>98298560>>98298588looking sick anon, nice work.a 3rd color accent is a solid idea.
>>98298811what would you like to talk about, anon?
>>98298816Not your weird fetishes, that would be a start.
Give me one reason not to get a really slutty looking woman as the commander for some SA/militia allies.
>>98298852well you have to end up reflecting the potentially 4+ armour save properly somehow, models are of course allowed to not be wearing helmetshopefully you'll arrive at a case where it's sexier the more armoured she might be like motoko and another adjacent vidya character that comes to mind are
>>98298883>motokoAnon Motoko wears basically a playboy outfit and a jacket over it.
>>98298816>pedo artist
>>98298892i'm very partial to the xbox hueg vest featured in the 1993 film but yeah she is typically shown pretty scanty in the way of anything adulterating her silhouette and i think that has basis in the whole thermoptic camo rig aspect at least sometimes
>>98298852they'll clash with your MLP knights and your #transrights EC
The collection grows slowly. I was able to snatch Massacre recently, what a wonderful piece of art. Looking forward for book 3.
>>98298925>MLP knightsLike bretonnia?
>>98298984Good luck with book 8.
Did Heresy-era Thousand Sons also use those big-ass headdresses/crests?
>>98299216What the fuck is a panoptica discord and why so you know about it
>>98299229I have seen it regress into debauchery. It used to be a good way of getting in contact with 30k 3D modellers.
>>98299224gee idunno
>>98299216>why is discord and reddit full of trannies Gee I wonder Get off the faggot platforms and either go to Facebook or meet in real life, most playgroups in my area are just vets and rogue trader boomers
>>98299224Don't think so, Tim.
>>98299253>>98299297Damn, I was hoping that I could use some of the 40K parts to spruce up my lil nerdsquad.
>>98299323You thought wrong. Keep the ranges separate.
>>98299334Yeah...Hehe.
>>98299323They grey knight two handers look way better. Honestly the gk kit is good for two handed swords, one handed swords, open hand bits, artificer mkVI legs, helmets, those antenna bits off the teleport backpacks, and fancy webbing gear. Just get one of those kits.
>>98298925Please do not denigrate my little pony. It is a classic toy franchise that has brought joy to children for over 40 years.
>>98298892To be fair Motoko's brain is the only human thing left of her body.
>>98299425I am not complaining anon. Its a good look. But she is very much "sexy" and not in the "the more she wears the sexier she is" sense.
>>98299433I LOVE THE MAJOR!
>>98297623monkey arms bad
>>98297795>Another thing to consider is the oversized helmets, which look downright comical on a HH body and vice versa.Which oversized helmet? The tortuga heads are normal old scale and look fine on HH bodies
>>98298031>Would this sword be okey on a centurion.No, because that's a paragon blade
>>98298076based
>>98297397No such thing
>>98299557I was talking about primaris, obviously
>>98297451The scouring is literally 30k, its like a week later in warhammer terms
>>98299572next you'll say the War of the Beast is 30k
>>98299216how about you get off discord before you troon out too
>Sign up for a 4k event in two months>Don't have an army>Resort to spamming Veteran HSS and lots of officers
>>98299584Naur, thats very much 40k based on asethetics and themes
>>98299570Good primaris does not belong here.
>>98299560nah ah
>>98299216Who fucking cares. If theyre making cool models and just keeping to themselves or whatever then who gives a shit. The whole "trannies are the enemy" shit died years ago. Now its just internet bubbles bitching about them to their own little groups of yes men doing the same cult like shit that the DEI/SJW crowds did.POST MODELS.
What's the appeal of the Emperor's Children?
>>98299572Which black crusades would you consider 30k?
>>98299617None.
>>98299624But the first one happens basically a year after the scouring in warhammer terms.
>>98299606>The whole "trannies are the enemy" shit died years ago.Hahaha, do trannies actually believe this?
>>98299631Yeah but>its a distinct conflict, the scouring happened right after>The scouring is very much part of the 30k setting in terms of tone and vibes, the black crusades are part of the 40ks setting good vs evil saturday morning cartoon tone
>>98299631Yeah it's almost as if the scouring was the transitionary period between the legions of old and the chapters and warbands of New, so the black crusade was the first crisis of the modern era of 40k, retard
>>98299651>40ks setting good vs evil saturday morning cartoon toneanon the entire Siege of Terra boiled down to "evil rapist murderers vs people who did not want to be raped and murdered"
>>98299660Yeah but they have a reason why they are like that, 40k just kind of treats them like they are bad for the sake of it
>>98299653>implying the First Black Crusade wasn't literally just leaders of the old Legions still duking it out
>>98299616pretty purple
>>98299683any motivations the traitors had before the Siege carried on after itthey're literally the same people half of the time because muh Eye of Terror time shit
>>98299684umm no akshually it was a tactical assault that Abaddon planned to get Drach'nyen
>>98299713who was leading the loyalists sweaty?
Red ligthings for NL, yes or no? And why?
>>98299845there's no reason they couldn't have a red tone, besides custom maybe leaning towards the electric blue angle
>>98299717nobody, they were totally unprepared for it because nobody thought the traitors could have survived in the eye of terror
>>98299616they were truly excellent astartes that had combat acumen nearly without peer. very artful in their warmaking, and fab as fuck on all fronts doing it
>>98299616looksmaxxing
>>98299606Wrong you faggot
>>98299845No. Shit looks pink.
>>98299616Excelled at almost all fields of war, only beaten by actual top masters of the art, capable at soft skills, and gloried in all victories.I would start an army of them after my Ultras if I had the desire to spend more money.
>>98300115Then let it die, you insufferable faggot.
>>98299216That is SoB army
alcohol will get the better of me, it's a bit sad
>>98299617anon the first black crusade is centuries after the scouring 781.M31, the scouring is supposed to end after the bulk of the traitor forces escape to the eye of terror with should be a decade after the siege of terra between the 20/30 M31.
>>98300255If youre able to do that level of awesome modelling/painting while "on" alcohol, then its not that much of a problem. Most of the best creatives ended up completely sucking HARD after they quit their vice.Sometimes its best to live fast, create hard and leave some awesome art when youre gone.
>>98300277depends, i don't have the drive to paint anymore, boozed up or otherwisei do paint better when not wastedbut yeah, i'm burning the candle by both ends, world is going to shit and i don't want to be here when it hit the fan
>>98298814Thanks, it's the scheme for late heresy WE stuff. Felt pretty fitting going for it considering tw has shown that scheme on the vindicators defending Bodt. I'll just limit it to the units that are implied to be the newest.
>>98300337you live in haiti?
>>98300393i don't need to be in haiti to see that climate catastrophe is going to hit hard
>>98300426Anon, "climate catastrophe" has been a fear campaign since before you were born.Pollution is mainly by India and China, food shortages are caused by Africa.What you really need to worry about is pole shifts caused by the magnetosphere being fucky.
How to make Space Wolves cool and not cringe?
>>98300540Ditch the baby blue armour.
>>98300556SW aren't baby blue during the HH you fucking tourist.
>>98300265years is weeksdecades is monthscenturies is yearsthat's how it works
>>98300595We know that's how they become though, so it's actively off-putting, brainlet.
>>98300540In 30k they're actually cool so jusy paint your models
>>98297389Adeptus made of the loyal part of Mechanicum (and in turn, the Titan legions) is established¨during the Heresy (the audio drama Binary Succesion).Other parts of the Imperium were Adeptus before that.
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>>98300610If your mother would have known what you would become she would have swallowed.
>>98300337Also have no motivation at all to paint currently, so been taking a break. Sometimes you need a little time away to avoid burning yourself out on it.
>>98300768i need to take a big break off miniatures; see other things and other people.
>>98297389"Adeptus" is high gothic, and as such the word probably predates the imperium quite significantly.
>>98300796I like your painting. Do you have an insta?
>>98300846nope; deleted facebook a year ago; never looked back; meta can suck a fat schlongi don't have too many great pieces; and most of them are wfb dwarfs
>>98300796I've started doing hiking, good reason to go outside and walking long distances helps process the rough last few years. Still playing HH weekly though, there's a quite sizeable community for it here.
>>98300864Oh right I recognize you now actually
>>98300868i really really love hiking; trouble is my fat ass has a hard time starting a hike on my own
>>98300885Got no advice there lol. Have a hard time tolerating other people any more, getting away alone has been great.
>>98300885luv me hikingwent to nevada a few months ago, shit was beautiful
>>98300982it's the alps mountains for me, shit's also beautifuleverything seems, so close there, you see a mountain and know you can climb it
>>98300998maybe todd was right after all
>>98301009hah, maybe he took a stroll in the alps and based his game off it, where there's a castle every dozen miles and ten villages in between
this is getting awfully silent; have all americans deserted /HHG/ ?
>>98301209All the tourists have gone back to shitpost about 40k now that 11th edition is out. There's also precious few ambiguous broken core rules in 3.0 to fight over (we never got an answer to if arriving from deep strike counts as moving or not in 2.0)
Any ideas when the MkIV tacticals are getting their stand alone box? I skipped the battlegroup because I didn't want the other units.
Wish they did a modern scale version of this big cutie....
>>98301294Probably next week, or the one after that. Usually doesn't take long.
>>98301294no fucking clue man; could be next week or could be next month
>>98301306Bet they could make a 28mm version of the Imperator titan and it would still sell like hot cakes. FW only created the Warlord titan model as a sort of prestige project, and they were absolutely baffled by how many people are buying them.
>>98301315with how resin warp on tau mantas i doubt they can build a 28mm emperor titan that can stand on its legs without heavy redesign
might be independance day; good to know usa posters touch grass
>>98301315I remember talking to their designers at games day chicago about the manta, they said they did it partially as a joke, figuring they would sell like 4 or 5 of them. Then they horribly regretted it and were pissed because they were told to start working on the warlord. Mind you, this was back around 2005-2006ish...they worked on that girl for a WHILE. They were also working on a plastic warhound back then too, but said it would probably NEVER make it out of the RnD phase. The baneblade at the time was hard enough.
>>98301374since they've crossed the rubicon and started doing super heavies in plastic again we may see a plastic warhound
>>98301315>>98301333this is a fact. an emperor titan would be more than double the weight of the warlord or manta, so yeah. it might work, but it would certainly push the limits.an emperor would be a moderately impractical model even at the new titanicus scale. god knows what forgeworld would charge for such a beast.
>>98301451they would cut the middleman out and directly ask for your liver
>>98298053Grogs that didnt migrate to 3rd play 1 or 1.5.2.0 was an abortion of a game and I'm glad it's dead.
>>98301209I've kind of become bored of 30k. I'm just constantly playing against the same people with the same armies with my same armies. Currently I'm working on a 4th/7th 40k nid army.
>>98301333Steel core for legs and hips
>>98301487some gundam models used to come with metal screws
>>98301483Tried any of the missions from the journals yet? They're surprisingly fun and balanced, miles better than the core missions.
>>98301502the last mission I played was out of the skitarii book and I had daemons on me that daysitting there with my average INT score of like 5 when scoring anything relied on passing INT by a lot didn't really cause me to have a lot of funthat being said, it's more that a lot of my community has also just stopped caring about the game we had a lot of new players join in in 2.0 but for some reason 3.0 just attracted a bunch of that guys who only know how to bring busted ass custodes armies
>>98301523Custodes players are universally insufferable. They're hated in 40k too from what I hear. Daemons are a rather bare bones army at the moment, hopefully the upcoming Tzeentch armylist will give them more tools.
>>98301532I have zero confidence in Andy Hoare writing daemons well, the downgrade from edition to edition has been catastrophic
>>98299616Purple looks good on power armor.>>98299606YWNBAW
>>98301617I would never want to be a woman, would be a pointless existence.
>>98301209I am here and I’m working on something to breath some new life into HH for old and new.
>>98299845I think the classic looks better, red looks off as if the armour is cracking from heat
>>98301294patience paypiggy
>>98301501Only old ones, Bandai have gotten better at design since the 90s
>>98301712I've been on a kingdom death kick since the latest expansion so it's been consuming my life because I've never learned to control my ADHD.
>>98299606Found the tranny
>>98300255Do you actually play the game, or just paint the models? Social interaction might help anon.
>>98300255You are master of your own fate. Stop being a defeatist faggot. You are not your thoughts.
>>98299160Is it particularly rare or something? I've been thinking of selling mine desu
>>98298984Very nice, the first black books are wonderful just for the lore alone.
>>98301823Under produced and worth at least $800 to $1000.
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>>98301532I like custodes models, but stopped using them in 40k because their playstyle was so dull. They’re basically just statblocks to get around. Haven’t tried them in 30k, but I hear the experience isn’t much better.Still had the urge to pick up a venatari box earlier today. They were on discount and fomo is a tempting force.
>>98301853>Tranny attacking a chud, colourised
>>98301962They're pretty much the same in HH. You need enough high damage AP 2 to kill enough custodes to wrestle back board control, otherwise anything that leaves your deployment zone gets shredded by the banana boys.
>>98301976Which is actually what they should be in lore, and also exactly why they never should've been given rules other than like, a 3-5 man squad as a 0-1 allies choice for loyalist armies.
Does anyone have links to the 3 most recent journals? Skitarii, tallarn pt1, and mailed fist?Potentially even the full zone mortalis book?
>>98302077I think it's cool how they have some unique vehicles and dreads in 30k, but they really should be a more limited army
>>98302085Maybe could’ve been balanced out with SoS units. Fragile units with some hypothetical benefit that makes taking them not only viable but good compared to even more Custodes. There’s gotta be some special weapons or units they could come up with for SoS.
>>98301963It's ma'am!!
>>98301962>Still had the urge to pick up a venatari box earlier today. They were on discountI love the pistols that come in the kit.Part of me wants to make an on-foot gunslinger Custodian, another part wants to stick the arms on a Space Marine.
>>98302175SoS had an entire armylist in the previous two editions. It's criminal that those rules weren't ported over, and an even bigger crime that we still don't got proper models for all of it.
>>98302647NTA but like the plastic venatari more than the resin ones in general.
>>98300478This kind of disingenuous pilpul worked better when places like London weren't facing week-long wet bulb events every summer.
>>98300885For me it's bugs. I just hate them, I hate the feeling of them on my skin, I hate accidentally breathing them in, I hate the buzzy noises they make, and I get paranoid about the diseases they give you(note to anyone who ends up working in education: if you go too hard on your "teach about the dangers of ticks and Lyme Disease" lesson for primary school kids, you are going to fuck them up for life). People post all these beautiful images of wonderful places, but whenever I've gone hiking in nature it's just endless fucking bugs everywhere.
>>98302689London is just fine besides all the immigrants and nonces.
>>98302077>they never should've been given rules other than like, a 3-5 man squad as a 0-1 allies choice for loyalist armies.You greatly overestimate the value of a single Custard unit. It's their use en mass that may cause severe balance issue, not a bunch of pseudo-Tartaros that can be handled by any decent list around. Beside, this is a tabletop game made to show your lovingly painted models and Custodes historically have had enough units since Visions to justify a decent range of miniatures. There is no reason to artificially force people to keep most of their collection on a shelf, as long as you can keep the game balanced and won't rape the lore. I think the current ally detachment is a good compromise, as it's flexible enough to allow a few iconic units to take the field alongside regular Custards without being too oppressive.
>>98302689Just don't engage with it, people that are still in denial at this point won't be swayed by any argument, never mind facts or reality.
>>98302720shut down the US embassy, got it
>>98302739>Be depressed and drink yourself to death or...>Buy an air conditionerlol
I'll be getting my Maximus box next week. For just a little bit of fun, I'll let you lads decide which Legion I paint five of them.
Hey guys, is there a repo of the 2nd edition books and downloads from gw's community site somewhere? Ive been looking cause my local groups bounced off 3rd pretty hard but haven't been able to find much, at least not easily.
>>98302805Play 1st edition instead, it's superior to 2nd in every way.
>>98302798Word Bearers.
>>98302818Be that as it may, my locals are only playing second, and finding the books for first that also still have the text in em is quite a pain. I've found some of em but I'm fairly confident I'm missing the eratta
>>98302798Ultramarines.
>>983027982nd legion
>>98302798WE Chads also dubs
>>98302798RED TALON IRON HANDS LET'S GOOOOO
>>98302798>>98302858Seconding WE chads.
>>98302798Dank Angels, paint those checkers
>>98302798Nemesis Chapter UM
>>98302798Salamanders.
>>98302798The wolves of Russ!
>>98302798terracotta warriors
>>98302826>>98302831>>98302835>>98302858>>98302867>>98302885>>98302886>>98302892>>98302902>>98302910Cursed singles. Alpha Legion, dubs check em.
>>98302798Pre-Magnus Thousand Sons
>>98302798Iron Warriors?
>>98302798Imperial Fists
>>98302798Night Lords, full halloween style outfit
>>98302798Word Bearers, but grey.
>>98302966At long last
>>98302966Winrar
>>98302669the resin ones have much nicer legs
>>98302175>>98302661GW doesn't care about SoS, the troonstodes release showed that lorewise and model wise.
I feel like the helmets for the Angel's Tears look better suited for Emperor's Children.What would be a suitable replacement?
>>98301306pic related is that emperor titan next to a warlord of the same scale. the top of the warlord shoulders are around the waist of the big guy.so he'd be about 25cm tall in titanicus (about the size of a 40k warhound). about a meter tall in 40, and if fully resin would weigh more than a 5 year old. >>98297099didnt get an answer in the (dying) epic thread, figured I ask here. making LIgma salamanders but I also want to be able to use them for epic armageddon. for those who also do EA does this list look OK?
>>98301962The Venatari kit will give you a lot of spare parts including pauldrons and some wings, so you'll get a lot of pistols if you build Venatari with lances. Kind of surprising given the Nustodes otherwise just come with an excess of heads you don't really need, and even more of them with the spears.
Vet heavy support marine for ZM
>>98301306
>>98303421I'm glad to see many of us embraced the MKII Assault lads as a heavily armoured variant.
>>98303429YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONigga needs to scan and print that shit, hed sell several of them (to me, right away for sure) and make his initial investment back pretty quick...
>>98303329The excess female heads are to put on your tac squad marines :)
>>98303289mk4 BA headsold Sang Guard heads
>>98303289Actual silver death masks, not blowjob gimp masks.
>>98303421veteran heavies are a thing now?
>>98303421you put the forehand plate wrong way btw, it should be underhanded like his grip
>>98303993Yes, as of legacies. Theyre HSS with two wounds and the options to take heavy disintigrators. They also have Implacable Advance iirc. Somewhat situational unit imo, besides being elites they cost more than HSS (already expensive) without any increase in damage, and 2w while nice vs small arms means little egainst the bigger guns you could see pointed at that. That plasma executioner or Cbeamer doesent care. Very cool concept though.
>>98304003Very cool, so they have access to all the regular heavy weapons?
>>98304038Yes iirc. All the normal heavy weapons ones and then also the heavy disintegrators.
>>98304038>>98304042Here we go.All special weaponsAll heavy weaponsSome D guns. 20ppm base
>>98303999Ik, i just like way it looks that way more
>>98304042>>98304051Thank you anons!
>>98303445I hadn’t thought of them for it, but after seeing how good anon’s heavy autocannon guy looks I may snag a box for some veteran despoilers.
>>98304059There are veteran despoiler 0__0. wtf
>>98304073Yeah, as of the Zone Mortalis book. Thinking of a squad of power axes and thunder hammers for my IW
>>98304073Theyre just normal melee vets. As a combat unit theyre just worse than a command squad, centurion command are 3ppm cheaper and praetorian command are 2ppm for for 2+ armor. But theyre in a different slot and have vanguard, and they can take heavy chainswords iirc. So thats cool. So theres now a dedicated "veteran" equivalent to tacticals, assault marines, breachers, despoilers and HSS/TSS.
>>98304091I swear the aussies made a fan supplement with all these veterans back in 1.0
>>98304103Well, tactical vets and vet despoilers are basically just the two halves of the old "veterans" unit. But yea, the others seem like natural enough units to include.Veterans shouldnt be a unit, they should be an upgrade other units can buy for +1W and improved LD stats
>>98304103Mournival only ever made vet recons and termis
>>98304110Basically: You wouldnt be buying "veteran X", you would take a normal breacher, or outrider, or destroyer, or assault squad, and you would pay Xppm to make them veterans increasing their stats.This would represent the fact that veterans are just that, marines that have done their job well enough to be better at it.
>>98304117Yeah it was the Mournival
how do you make siege armies that aren't boring?
>>98304235Try making an actual siege army, rather than an artillery army and pretending it's a siege army. Get some ranged heavies and then a bunch of stuff for actually breaching the target. Mastodon, termites, leviathans with siege drills, ironclad castraferrums, etc.
>>98304235Make the guys who enter the breach and massacre the defenders. Assault & despoiler squads, cqb configured dreads, support squads with assault weapons.
>>98304235Logitstics
>>98304235By taking more than just "artillery". By all means, take those basilisks, medusas, mortars and so on. But then also remember that sieges are very much infantry affairs and that you need someone to actually attack the enemy position. Assault elements that try and break through (which is what the artillery is in support of). Siege armies are "Boring" because people just take the same 2/3 units in large numbers, and those units are not very interactive. So dont do that.If youre SA/Militia take aggressive infantry to try and make a breakthrough, veletaris and ogryn, maybe massed human waves to represent the actual bulk of the siege force, if youre marines take breachers or despoilers, termite drills and whatever else you would actually use to go in once the defenders are softened up. Your infantry elements arent likely to be super elite (terminators arent going to be sat there in a slogging siege for the most part, theyre made for shock armored breakthroughs) but rather hordes of more basic units slogging up the field under the cover of heavy guns, seeking to take ground from the enemy. An army of nothing but artillery guns isnt fluffy (it would just be overrun and be unable to hold any ground), isnt interesting (it looks ugly, doesent represent anything interesting from a listbuilding perspective, and plays the same every time) and isnt fun to fight (it, like all other gimmick armies, are a binary win/loss based on whether the opponent knows what sort of shit youre up to/has the proper units). An army featuring artillery does not have to be those things.
>>98304726Basically, as with every "army concept" its about finding ways to make your army varied and interactive, rather than just spamming a single unit.
>>98304726Also: When in doubt MSUTwo squads of 5 autocannons are more fun and interesting than one of 10.
>>98304235Vindicator, Breachers, Despoilers, Ironclad Dreads. Pretty much what that special list from badab did on 5th/6th
>>98302798I will summon trips unless perils, in which case pushups. World Eaters.
>>98304051hate that they're not locked to the same weapon like a normal HSS
>>98305023Theyd be a bit boring if they were. Besides, theres new heavy weapons which HSS cant take loads of.
>>98305023That wouldn't be very veteran of them now would they?
>>98303584I'm still pissed they went out of their way to make female bodies for 50% of the base unit. You're already expected to make an army out of six fucking poses, and now they make three of them female not because they *needed* to be for GW to do their "female custodes have always been real" retcon, a few extra heads in the box like with Cadians for those who wanted to use them could do that, but because they absolutely wanted to make it impossible to get the better new minis unless you accept the retcon.
>>98305527Which ones are the female bodies? Maybe I'm blind, but it's impossible to see any real difference on pics online.
>>98305564Plus shield captain.
>>98305527Yeah, they went for the worst of all worlds.>Female Custodes>No male only bodies with some token heads>Female bodies are only slightly different, not feminine enough to look good.Just blunder after blunder.
>>98305712It does seem like even GW realised how much of a mistake femstodes were. After the shield captain and base infantry there hasn't been a single femstodes model.
>>98305754They weren't a mistake they were a stunt. GW gets to pretend like they're being inclusive and get attention while getting people to rebuy their army. Any bitching can get written off easily. It's all just money to them.
>>98305778But people didn't have to rebuy their army. Heck, GW themselves still sells the old custodes models. All it did was create a lot of bad PR and alienate a good chunk of the customers. People that are feral about "muh representation" never buy anything, this has been proven countless times.
>>98305778Not so much a "stunt" as it was a shit test. They had their finger on the trigger for femme marines ("OH, one of Cawls other experimental successes with the primarishit project was now the ladies get to play too, you silly goys....I mean boys....!"). I would bet fucking money on it, and once they saw the mini shit storm, they realized "....ok, not just yet...."Its going to happen, just now hopefully later, MUCH later, rather than sooner....
>>98305839If that were true they would have but femstodes in 40k first since you have the lore about Khorne attacking Terra and killing 4000 custards. They don't care about integrating lore which is why they just dropped femstodes in a twitter post
>>98305845Holy shit nigga I cant understand your post. They dont give a shit about the lore, they just wanted to add femme marines, and they used the shitty little golden boys as the dry run test. The test caused a mini shit storm/exodus, so I guarantee they shelved them (for now....). They had the PERFECT thing to introduce them (primarishit), where all of a sudden marines get basically primarched up in the lore to 90s style "EXTREMEEEEE marines", and they could have very easilly just said one of the side effects of it is, now women dont just fucking die or become a mutated blob of cells if they get gene seeded. Be thankful that enough people bitched, because I guarantee it would have happened if everyone had just kept their mouths shut and conSOOOOOOmed.
I want to start an Iron Hands force. Is the maximus battle group good?
>>98305874It's a good box to start your first army with. Decent number of infantry that you can turn into different units with upgrade kits, contemptors are quite flexible with all the ways you can equip them, and the sicaran is a decent all-round tank with above average durability. Some people turn it into a sicaran arcus by putting the scorpius turret on top. Hopefully you didn't mean "good" in a competitive way, because HH is not the game for that.
>>98301841It pops up for less from time to time, $500ish.There's also the softcover version, obviously not as nice, but I got it for $235 shipped.
>>98305564They have like 10% larger pecs
>>98305754There's only been the Venatari and they look like they were designed before the foid retcon
>>98306184The upcoming jetbike riders don't have foids either
>>98305857It's pretty easy to understand, they could have used the retcon to ad femstodes to 40k since the imperium is running out of male nobles to juice up but instead they went with 'there has always been women custodes'
>>98305644I've seen obese redditors with more obvious tits than that.
>>98306190>running out of male nobles to juice up>thinking there's ever an end to the nobles to sacrifice
>>98305712New to Games Workshop huh? The fact there're retards out there living in delulu land thinking Femstode gonna look like big tiddies "fan project" artwork is hillarious, despite the face that GW just straight up show people what a femstode would look like in their animation, or really just speak to anyone who've been seeing "GW females" for the past years.
>>98306190why would they be running out of male babies, but not female babies? anyway, it's not like enough custodes are being made to even put a dent in the potential recruitment pool. there's only 10 thousand of them, and they live for centuries to millennia, so probably only a handful are recruited every generation.
another mentally ill sunday morning huh
or wait are you guys seriously posting from the us on 4 july at midnight about girly toys in your very serious hobby making you sooooo angee
Is there a pdf of the "beginner rules" from the box set? The ones in the instruction manual? I don't see them in the downloads.
oh no no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D29vrvu8ioI
>>98307012Buy an ad
>>98306190Yes brilliant idea when you're running out of the male nobles to take the only nobles able to produce more of them into warriors, so they cannot make more. The whole troonstodes concept is a sham anyways to push woke marxist politics into the setting.
>>98297265>Cataphractii & Tartaros have their own special rules as Termi armor variants>All the various Power Armor marks don't
>>98307019I remember someone saying salamanders suck in this thread or last one, felt relevant.
>>98307021how would you even make different rules for the marks?
>>98305874Depends what kind of army you want
>>98307021>lets give each armour mark their own stats and rules>then multiply each power armoured unit entry with the number of armour marks
>>98307012>>98307023It's unfunny slop for 40k tards, and irrelevant for the HH. Fuck off
>>98307021Yeah, terminator armour never should have gotten special rules for each mark. The armies are way too large for shit like that, special rules for each specific pattern of armour needs to stay in skirmish games.
>>98307034Imagine power armour rules in the style of 2e HH shattered legions. It would un-ironically kill the game, that shit was unplayable unless you took half a week for one game.
>>98307021Cata and Tartaros shouldn't have different rules. It was obsolete rules favouritism to sell more resin during the FW era, but it's nonsense now. Tartaros didn't even have rules at the start of 1.0The differences between TDA patterns are negligible at the scale of the game. All terminators should have the same basic rules.
>>98307048>2e HH shattered legionsprobably the most retarded and unplayable rules GW has ever done for one of their mainstream games.
>>98307080True, and that's saying something lmfao
How would you go about making rules for the foresaken in BA armies?Would they be their own squads or something else?I think they are an interesting little tidbit of lore that could be expanded upon.
>>98307094>A tiny handfulDoesn't seem like there's enough of them to form a full squad. And what would the effect even be? Roll a D6 at the start of each turn, and on a 1 a single model in your army now suffers from turbo depression?
>>98307106Maybe BAs were the emo marines all along
>>98307094>Malevolence lore-breaking fanfictionignore that bs>>98307115They are in 40k, butin the HH the Salamanders are the true emo marines.The RG being emos is memelore barely acknowledge by a few Corax scenes. In almost all cases they're cold stoic professionals without sentimentality
>>98307128>Salamanders are the true emo marines.That would be the Iron Hands
>>98307315No, IH are the actual ragetards. Ferrus made Angron look like a sensible and nuanced individualBut the Salamanders spend all the HH cryng about Vulkan and being sad about their legion. Seriously, it's why the Salamanders books are probably the worst of all in the BL series. And that's without the retarded high fantasy shenanigans going on that make AoS look gritty and grounded.
>>98307038u mad bro?
>>98307327Ferrus only went full rage because of Fulgrim and Horus, and IH legion after they lost their dad.
>>98307366Sadly for the character, BL made him a ragetard before the HH. It's pretty much his defining trait.The only good IH and Salamanders stories are those when they have to work together as part of the Shattered Legions
>>98307376BL slop must be disregarded, stick to the black books
>>98307327Retard lorelet. The IH and Ferrus were known for their icy, calculated demeanor in combat and for taking apart enemy forces methodically rather than rushing in.
>>98307386The Black Books are full of shit too, and I'm tired of pretending they weren't.It's just cope by people that spend too much money on them
>>98307388You haven't read IH stories.
>>98307315>>98307388What were the biggest differences between the ih from the iw?To me they were kind of meant to be similar. Maybe the dorn perts rivalry was originally meant to be Ferrus vs perts but it got scrapped?
>>98307455IH were obsessed with perfectionIW were perfectly content with worse weapons and tactics so long as it got things done on schedule
I saw a Duncan Rhodes video where he made different weapon effects on HH era weapons.For the flamer he used black pigments.Can this be achieved with black drybrushing easily?Video:youtube.com/watch?v=H1FU92H6VO0&ra=m>t. Ordered black pigment and there was some leakage out of the AK jar I had to clean up.Do AK powder jars usually have this problem as I got unlucky and may have it with the next jar I transferred some powder to.Do Vallejo pigment jars have this leakage problem?>>98307021Cute capybara.
>>98307094>How would you go about making rules for the foresaken in BA armies?Divination librarian.
Thoughts on the granularity and flavor of 3.0? How do you feel about unit options?
>>98307094Sounds like they’re fancier moritats
>>98307619Vexillas and Nuncio-voxes are ass. They look bad, constantly snap off, and add nothing to the game.
>>98307619>flavorzero out of tenThere isnt a single flavorful legion in the whole traitor line up (idk about loyalist I dont play them)Every trait reaction etc is simply borig>How do you feel about unit options?Still too many, named legion units should not exist yet they brought them back in legacyThe only difference between various legion should be the wargear they will use and the legion rules, not made up bullshit.>>98307664True
>>98307664Vexillas look kino, so they should be taken in every unit. I convert mine to be handheld on bannerpoles.
>>98307468>is it usually a problem?If you're talking about dry pigments, I haven't experienced it personally, but I've always purchased them in person from my local shop. You might have lucked out and bought a bottle that didn't have the lid screwed on 100% at the factory.>can you achieve it with black drybrushing?Yes. The main difference is that pigments will look extra matte compared to acrylics. The problem however is that pigments don't like to stick to smooth surfaces (like metallic paint), so you often need varnish or fixer (which can end up changing the finish of your metallic paint).An acrylic drybrush or glaze therefore is usually the easiest option for achieving this particular scorched effect.There are more involved methods that combine the best of both worlds (shiny metallic paint and ultra matte pigments that won't flake off), but it requires more steps (varnishing, applying pigments, varnishing or fixing, then reapplying metallics in some places).
>>98307693>zero out of ten>There isnt a single flavorful legion in the whole traitor line up (idk about loyalist I dont play them)>Every trait reaction etc is simply borigLol>Still too many, named legion units should not exist yet they brought them back in legacy>The only difference between various legion should be the wargear they will use and the legion rules, not made up bullshit.Lmao
>>98307619>granularityLower than in previous editions, rather objectively. Especially for characters. Some units got more options (reavers and night raptors getting thunder hammers) but for the most part there is just less "I give my guy X and Y" potential. >flavorActually very good. The traits/legion rules are probably the best they've ever been for conveying legion character and "living the fantasy" . There's still some stinkers (IF are still boring as fuck and pushed towards monobuilds, sallies have two traits for some reason even if both are individually fine...) but on the whole they do a great job of doing their job while remaining simple and elegant.
>>98307747Handheld vexillas are kino>>98307619I fucking hate army building. I hate detachments. I hate the HQ tax. I can never fit what I want into an army list. Prime advantages are all boring.
>>98307805Ultramarines and NL are particular winners on that front. NL went from a mechanically interesting but functionally wonky trait that encouraged them to play a very specific style of gunline and had no impact on melee to a (still mechanically interesting) trait that makes them the best "bullies" in the game bar none. If they get their ideal engagements they feel invincible, but its entirely reliant on the enemy failing a status check. UM went from having tau markerlights (dumb) to having a very simple but effective trait that helps show that their thing is tactical flexibility and utilitarian response, rather than simply "being better shots". They went from trash to up there with alpha legion for best legion trait. Just slightly better in whatever way is needed without being "objectively better" in any given field.
>>98307824>I can never fit what I want into an army list.Yea no shit, thats the point of limitations. If you can simply take everything you want lists are boring. You couldnt take all you wanted with the limited slots either, which was once again the point.
>>98307094prime advantage for BA diviner that lets him save against his Base Willpower with a Check, instead of normal saves or damage mitigation; it's a 5/6 pass at WP9, it would bypass AP and other rules that modify Saves entirely, and if Sanguinius (or Jenny, even with cross-faction penalty) is in the unit it actually improves but in return for successfully making the Check he gets Fear (1) and it works the way the old Blackshields/Militia warlord trait did, where it affects friendlies tooAxe Diviners are already fairly monstrous in Challenges since they can hit on 2+ and get a focus roll bonus from Duellist's Edge (2) just for being great guys, so a guy who's just shrugging off love taps from Horus because "it's not time yet" is extremely funny, but you've got to have a downside, so Fear (1)or shit call it "Uncanny (X)" and have it do what Fear does but to all Units, friend or foe, instead of making an exceptiongoodness knows if we're having proper daemons from now on they'll need something like thatbut also prime advantage for BA because fuck AL soup
>>98307891Thats fucking retarded anon.
>>98307094If you read this as certain marines who can see their own death, wouldn't it make sense to bunch them together into a proto-Death Company and give them all black armour details and cool helmets and wings and mean lasers that can burn through paper and and
>>98307619>FlavourAs a Custard player, I must say 3.0 is by far the most flavourful edition I have played so far. It's not perfect and the very nature of the faction makes it difficult to balance against some armies, I won't deny that. But at least the internal balance is great, almost all units and weapons have a use and we got funny stuff like Ides of March'ing a Praetor with misericordias or Valdor having Hatred (Paragon). Building a diverse and viable army has never been so easy, Guard spam from 2.0 is over.
>as a custard playerDisregarded and stopped reading
>>98308262it's an inviolable 2++
>>98308395Im aware.
>>98308409and you think it's bad for a guy who's fated to die at a particular time because
>>98308484Youre either genuinely mentally unwell or proposing bad rules as a troll. So ill be brief.Its a mechanically unworkable piece of dogshit that has no justification as a representation of the lore. We know what divination and the powers of foresight do mechanically, multiple characters have those powers. They are not this.Fuck, even beyond the "its a 2++" having to roll 2d6 per save is fucking retarded and results in unbearable slow roll, because you cant batch roll that shit since specific pairs matter. Its a proposal that is garbage on literally every level imaginable, you would have to actively try and write worse rules.
>>98299401This. The GK kits work wonders with HH stuff, barring the body armor (too much small frivolity to sand unless you’re a psycho) the swords are great and the polearms, the hand bolters and helmets are sweet if you need em for special units-I use them for my “Dawnbreakers”. All they really have on them is a ‘GK’ that is easily cut off/sanded>>98304235As already suggested, a siege force still needs to be relatively well-rounded otherwise you leave the elements meant for the siege vulnerable. It’s really just a matter of what armor you’re going to take.Speaking of which: I present the 55th Company Elite “Angels Aegis”/277 Company Siegebreaker “Last Laugh” combined forces aka poor bastards who got lost in the ruinstorm to Terra. The latter forms the bulk, of which they didn’t specialize in the siege itself but going into the breach when it was made and clearing out any defenders with brutal efficiency. In other words it means I got 20 Breachers and 20 some jump troops. I’m gonna finish this army with that MKIV box, 2 Whirlwinds, a Fellblade and maybe a Vindicator or another Dread. Ignore the 40k guys on the right, they’re for when I play 3/4th edition with friends, just wanted to see how much I’ve done
>>98307845It's limitation with no fucking benefit, it just shoehorns you into a template and then taxes you whenever you try to take anything to balance out or diversify your army. Rites of War put limitations on you, yes, but they also gave you something more interesting than "this tactical sergeant over here is slightly more brave".
>>98308620>it just shoehorns you into a templateAs does any force org system, because thats how "finite slots" work. >b-but theres no mechanical benefitThe benefit of taking a unit is the unit. The benefit of taking a unit over another unit you might need to unlock a slot for is that you do not need to take a character to unlock the slot.>but you cant take things to diversify or balance out your armySure you can, centurions unlock two aux slots and logistical benefits exist. It is literally just a skill issue if you cant make a balanced list.
>>98308544>Its a mechanically unworkable it's a Willpower Check>We know what divination and the powers of foresight do mechanicallywell we actually don't because they're a grab bag of special rules, Duellist's Edge (2) and a conditional 2+ to Hit and a Blessing for Precision5+, which are only linked thematically by the concept of the diviner "looking ahead" but Duellist's Edge only works in Challenges (and is built for force axes) and the Gambit too, and Precision5+ is worthless in a Challengefor a melee-focused legion a conditional 2++ makes sense (and if a Rule or Special Rule can reduce his Base Willpower, it's not even a 2++); thematically it's a doomed individual stuck on a path to the inevitable end of him>you cant batch roll that shit since specific pairs matter. use pairs of dice, you know, coloursare you not doing that to make Fire Groups go faster? are you not doing that to speed up resolving Effects? you're probably retarded thenit's a simple rule that would also confer a fair disadvantage as a -1 on all friendly Advanced Characteristics (except his own, obviously) within 12" in return for making this one guy a decent melee prospect, even though he can't even get AP2 without the axe which reduces his potential to win the Focus significantly lock him to a Primary Detachment if you're worried about him being spammed in Allied Detachments
>>98308655>it's a Willpower CheckIts a 2++ you retard. >>well we actually don'tWell we actually do, both curze and sevatar have rules to represent their premonitions. You should learn the fucking rules before pulling some out of your fucking ass. >because they're a grab bag of special rulesAlso wrong, and irrelevant, because they show the scope of premonition far stronger than "vague knowledge of ones death".>use pairs of dice, you know, colours>just buy 20 different colors of dice to make my retarded idea work
>>98308655>it's a simple ruleThat slows down the game, makes no sense on a thematic or narrative level and which is also wildly imbalanced, yes. >fair disadvantage of fear, a special rule everyone else has to PAY for lmaoYou get heedless, bitter duty, a 6+++, and nothing more.
>>98307747kino, pic?
>>98308650>muh logistical benefitShitty game design. Further evidence prime benefits are meaningless. They couldn't be bothered to write fluffy, interesting benefits or detachments, so they include HQ tax officer spam as a workaround for their cookie cutter templates.
>>98299401All these GK melee weapons are force blades only suitable for Librarians, Esoterists, and the like.
>>98308743Too bad I've already used plenty of them as power weapons.
>>98308741>Further evidence prime benefits are meaningless.>as evidenced by the really impactful prime benefit discussed>They couldn't be bothered to write fluffy, interesting benefits or detachmentsThey did both of those.
>>98308704Nta, but my friend have one kino vexila haha, everytime I see it I chuckle
>>98308704Love me vexillas, simple as
>>98308853Was better and fluffier in 1.0 and 2.0
>>98308704I've done a couple myself, they're cool AF. Currently painting up the left guy as part of a 20 man despoiler mob. No progress pics but I'm about halfway done with the squad.
Here is mine "vexilla"
>>98309196So /yourdudes/ are inspired by seeing a guy getting impaled?
>>98309262You could call it that.
I just use little Iron Halo type bits for my vexilla, and some antennas for the nuncio-vox
>>98309119Are those printed parts?
>>98309262Exactly. Ten times better then being expired by a hanging piece of cloth
>>98309674Yes. The vexilla parts I made myself in CAD.
I'm thinking about starting Solar Aux. I just think they're neat.
>>98310070I like them too!I've just finished building bunch of aethons.
Moritats. Fancy officer trim, or regular "I'm not like other officers" trim?
>>98310331Moritat aren't really officers, just killers. Even their rules reflect that now, they got the specialist sub-type instead of command.
>>98310347Yeah, that's why I was on the fence. Also, shit, maybe I've built my list wrong. They still get to take a detachment, right?
>>98310387Yes, they do still allow a detachment. Specialist just means moritats are allowed to join units, but none of their morale stats are used when that unit has to make a check. And the errata gave them back Bitter Duty, so which units they can join is also limited.
>>98310401Ok, cool, I can still run him solo. Not as optimal, but means I don't need to reconfigure my list. Thanks, anon.
>>98310416You can but i would not advise it. REason being he is gonna get shot to shit. If you are running him up the board solo, he is gonna take a lot of fire, and if you DS he is gonna get over watched fast.
>>98310070RIP solar aux legate marshal, you had a hell of a run in 1.0 and 2.0
>>98310434It's for ZM, so I'm hoping he'd be more okay. I'm not sure what other officer to put in, is the problem. Could probably slot in a herald and have some fun there, or go for a champion, but I'm not sold on any of the other options.
>>98307782Thanks. I think I had the leakage with the second jar I’m not sure.I checked and didn’t see any available dry pigment stuff available at the hobby shops on their webstores.What pigments did you use and what brand and was there really any difference?First time I think I got a defective hobby product that was the container so I’m still a little miffed right now.
>>98310464OH its for ZM, yeah that should be fine
>>98310434Nah, running characters solo is totally viable. I do it all the time with my AL. A single character model is very easy to hide, and it always takes a much more expensive units to kill even a 95 points moritat. At worst the opponent wastes a turn of shooting for one of their more valuable units.
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Deep strike is cucked in 3rd and melee is kinda mediocre. Tried out a jump pack focused list and got demolished today. 15 sanguinary, 10 dawnbreakers, 10 assault marines, 5 angel's tears + some termies, a land raider, and a deredeo.Dawnbreakers seem overtuned, and I'm sure running 30 would be somewhat effective. What else is to be done without spamming?
