Putting lust in Lustria Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98290888>Thread Question:How popular are Legacy armies in your area? Do you think they are popular enough to make GW re-implement them fully into TOW?
>>98297716First for Stirland!
Swordmasters finished!TQ: In my area legacy Armies are as common as regular ones.
boring lore
So if we were to get a High Elf vs Dark Elf core set...would it be viable to to just use both things in one army I.E. take the high elves and paint them as Dork Elves or vice versa?
>>98297774Depends, most of the infantry is doable, both use chariots, bolt throwers, horse cav so you can proxy that as well. If dark elves have a monster then it wouldn't be good.
>>98297762Great looking unit and BSB.
>>98297762>BSB and a banner in the same unitDun like it. Detracts from the focus on the BSB.
Free Militia minis have so much SOUL, wish they were a bit stronger. But hey, at least they're useful for the RPG to use as misc bandits and stuff.
>>98297841Why are these medieval hobos posing for a photo?
>>98297892despite living rough on campaign men at arms were paid on average five times the wage of a labourer and often more, as well as having looting privileges. Often these men formed the backbone of freemen and freeholders in medieval townships and cities once they retired from campaign. A famous example is Thomas Cromwell.
>>98297892It's just something Medieval goons do
Some one posted a core set unboxing before the NDA is liftedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPgoTyWPiYg
>>98297892>hobosCome and see yov cvckold
>>98297930I guess that ends my curiosity over the mat
>>98297949SDS ones are always just poster mats
>>98297953>>98297949honestly it'd be better if they put in a few of their movement tray sprues, which if they were designed properly should have been snap fit.
>>98297949
Okay Ireland it's been two weeks since you said the Sylvania guide was coming soon and there's nothing else going on, you can release the book now.
>>98297963Too busy performing pest control
>>98297963It's going to be mid-month, anon, at minimum.
>>98297949That looks cheap as fuck
>>98297838ok nogames
>>98298008because it is, it's just a poster.only 40k and AoS get the Card Stock mats
>>98297841>stirland free militia after rescuing a high elf officer from a beastmen camp>Empire, 2521, decolorized
>>98298018I'm not willing to make my "main" unit look poopy for +1 combat res.
>>98298036ok nogames
>>98298042Stop that!
>>98297949I can see why they didn’t advertise it. Suppose it’s better than nothing.
>>98298035they are clearly Bretonnians with a Wood Elf
>>98298059They're too pretty and well equipped for Bretonnian peasants. Unless you mean they're the knights, which I could see.
>>98297930>new warriors are a mess to put togetherwell there goes my hope for that. I think you can make them dual wield? Idk. im largely apathetic to this. Oh and beast bros, it looks like you're getting cucked.
>>98298120Only Mousillon peasants are inbred "Igor" looking mongoloids. Don't cite 6e nulore for Bretonnia.
Grand Cathay must grow grander.
>>98298125>I think you can make them dual wield?Maybe it's going to require some clipping and cutting of bits, but it should be fine.
>>98298132>6e is now nulorekek
>>98298132Everybody in the world, including the empire is inbred in 6e+
How would you react if your Chaos/Beastmen opponent fielded these?
>>98298141It is for Bretonnia, considering the faction was completely left to rot after it was defiled in 6e. Every Bretonnian named character comes from 5e btw.
>>98298125>beast bros, it looks like you're getting cucked.I don't think so. If anyone is getting fucked it's the Southern Realms who got their section entirely removed from the lore bit at the start. Beastmen kept theirs even though it's only two pages
>>98298175Having seen the slop the resident beastfag posts here, I guess it could be worse
>>98298191GW is NEVER EVER EVER going to do Tilea/Estalia/Araby. The PerryGODS clearly wanted to, so all that shit was rolled into DoW, but that's the closest we'll get.
>>98297716Why would lizardmen have penises?
>>98298188Bretonnia in 5th sucked donkey ass. It was a lame historical faction shoehorned into Warhammer Fantasy. 6th actually gave it some character, and the 5th edition sculpts are some of the worst GW has ever put out. Literally just low effort Histslop.
>>98298211because they're lizardMEN, duh
>>98298207It's probably more due to GW using those maps made by MadAlfred and having a legal panic attack when dumb fanboys pointed out he made those when he was working for GW
>>98298211they might even have two if they lean more towards the lizard side.
>>98298175I don't see why these get hate. They're not bad. They don't have giga breasts and asses and fit the Dragon Ogre design.Not even coomer imo.
>>98298220>They don't have giga breasts and assesthey kinda do
>>98298175>>98298220Dont these have sculpted pussies that you can insert into?
>>98298223No breasts are reasonably big, not hentai level bigger than their heads like some pornslop models have.
>>98298214>5th edition sculpts are some of the worst GW has ever put out.
Bros preorders very soon. Unironically two weeks until the new models are in our hands. I am so hyped.
New Tomb Kings when?
>>98298239Maybe in the autumn, I don't think we are getting another TOW release outside of the separate Chaos Warrior release for the summer
>old thing good, new thing bad
>>98298125Can't possibly be worse than the Cathay Sentinel
>>98298238any semblance of hype I had has gone when I saw that sprue. >>98298245new thing is bad when its just redundant.
>>98298217Why not just shell out like $2k and pay the poor faggot instead of stealing his work and then panic deleting when the theft is discovered
>>98298249>any semblance of hype I had has gone when I saw that sprue.Why?
>>98298254its another case of exploded sprue syndrome that gw has. Looks like a pain to hobby with or convert.
>>98298249>>98298254NTA but because of lack of options? Which who cares when we will get upgrade sprues anyways.
>>98298258Oh that, the parts are interchangeable with Knights they said though, so while it looks like a mess we still get to kitbash somewhat easily.
>>98298245Only with Bretonnia and Wood Elves, everything else has gotten better over time. I love the new WoC, for example, but if you like 6e+ Bretonnia over 5e you're a fucking NIMROD
>>98298268>the parts are interchangeable with Knights they said thoughThat's encouraging at least
>>98298261>when we will get upgrade sprues anywaysyou won't these are not space marines
>>98297892The guy in the foreground is supposed to be the militia captain looking exasperated at his men being idiots again.
>>98298261>Which who cares when we will get upgrade sprues anyways.Oh anon. They barely make upgrade sprues for 40k marines. HH themselves barely have been doing upgrade sprues as of late, and when they did it was for breachers which were BEGGED for for fucking years.
I'll get this box cause I wanted to build the warriors with shields anyway. But not having options is just scummy
>>98298287Ill concede to your point and join your side if they don't release chaos warriors upgrade sprues, but at this point I think they are guaranteed.
there will be 3rd party upgrades available within days, calm your tits
>>98297949Why the fuck does GW even have remaining customers?This along with monokit warriors with no weapon options is just stupid.GW charges an arm and a leg for minimal effort. All the shit they sell is at least 3x the cost of what it should be anyway, yet previously they at least had the excuse of high quality, now they are just actively tryharding to jew their customers as much as they can.
>>98298297>at this point I think they are guaranteed.I appreciate your delusions.
>>98298250I'm pretty sure MadAlfred didn't even care
>>98298261>who cares that I have to pay more for a basic option Y'know I'm starting to think maybe perryposter had a point
>>98298175Is that opponent me, because I'm tempted. Just need a head swap (unless they offer ones that don't need a bag over their heads).
>>98298302I'll tell you what happens instead: the normal chaos warriors unit profile gets updated to be stronger, with an extra attack among other things, but it loses all options, and down the line in a different arcane journal they'll add a different unit profile for "exalted warriors" of some shit with all sorts of options, but no promise of a kit or upgrade sprue and just a suggestion to convert them
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>>98298329they have hemetless versions, but they don't have waifu faces tho
>>98298322You're not fooling anyone. How does it feel to see this general thriving and lively despite all the limited time of your life you wasted over the past couple months. Manlet fag LMAO
>>98298346the helmeted one is cuter
>>98298214NTA but that's just not true. It's 3e Bretonnia that was 100% Perry-run and was in fact hywslop. The 3e era WD article on painting Bretonnians that was written by the Perrys just straightforwardly tells you how to paint historical coats of arms. 5th ed Bretonnia still had the Perrys make the minis (and one of their best dare I say), but the fluff and rules were written by Stilman, and it's anything but historical. In fact the main criticism of 5th ed Brets is just how ahistorical they are, it's all extremely bland pop-Arthuriana that's so boring it makes you cry your eyes out. 5th ed Bretonnia wishes it had anything as cool to offer as the historical Armagnac-Burgundian civil war for example. The thing Stilman didn't get is that heroic and inspiring stories like Joan of Arc's only shine in their full glory if they're painted on a background of grimdark. You can write all the Reliefs of Orleans you want, without Joan burning at the stake or John the Fearless getting clubbed to death in an alley it all ends up feeling empty and weightless.
>>98298346except maybe this one
Holy nostalgia!
>>98298360>pop-ArthurianaAh, finally someone who understands 5e Bretonni—>extremely bland that's so boring it makes you cry your eyes outFUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>98298233on a scale where 1 is normal dragon ogres and 10 is furry vore porn I'd still place these above 5 anyhow
>>98298369>foid plays 40gay>tyranids>foid plays fantasy>wood elvesThus it ever was. Thus it ever shall be.My gf likes WoC thoughbeit
>>98298250>>98298312IIRC the guy was born in the 50s and had a successful career as a software consultant or something. He's also pretty clear that WFRP 1e is the only thing that matters to him and he doesn't really give a shit about Warhammer Fantasy post 1993. I think it's fantastically unlikely some 70+ retiree could be bothered to spend his remaining days in court suing GW over IP minutiae.
>>98298369Whatever happened to her?
>>98298333>just a suggestion to convert themsovl
>>98298397Still bothered to do those 4e Dwarf books though
>>98298346>>98298362At least the heads are separate, so it's easy to find alternatives.
>>98298352Anon, this general is dying just like every other one on this board. I don't think perryfag contributed much in either direction.
>>98298440Seems lively enough to me.
>>98298440>this general is DYING>moves at 2x the speed of /aosg/Hm. What does that say about /aosg/?
>>98298450Comparing ourselves to a game that is literally being squatted next year isn't a good standard.
>>98298466>Comparing ourselves to a game that is literally being squattedWell, we are the ones that set this standard in the first place.
>>98298466>squattedThat implies a cult classic beloved range is being retired with dignity after having run its course. AoS is being taken out back behind the woodshed and put out of its misery. And that's a good thing!
>>98298472Add this to the collage
>>98298214Retarded take from someone who's never read the army book
>>98298195I know which beastfag in particular your talking about but as a beastfag you cant call him "the resident beastfag"There's many of us.White beastfagCoomer beastfag Greenhorn beastfag Etc
If all you can talk about in a general about game a is how game b is bad then that says a lot more about game a than it does about game b
>>98298479I still just cannot fucking believe this is a real, unedited, official miniature. If you'd kitbashed a model like this together yourself for classic Warhammer Quest or something back in the day, even back then, I think people would genuinely be uncomfortable. Fucking insanely racist kek>>98298499>if you point out how shit my game is... uh, that makes YOURS bad too!Sorry, no.
>>98298499Yeah fr, take a look at /aosg/ it's literal nonestop seethe about us existing. Pretty sad.
Might be some good reading in there idkhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/sybfdsyw/old-world-almanack-warriors-of-chaos-designers-notes/
>>98298509Maybe you should stay there.
>>98297529>>98297529>>98297529>>98297529Rings any bells? If nobody remember that, I'm going to have to check all the Count Vampires army books.
>>98298446>>98298450Check the archives if you want, used to be we had 2 or sometimes even 3 threads a day back in 2020 or so. Again, it's not unique to /wfg/ or anything, /aosg/ is going through the same thing, same with /40kg/ to an extent. Board's just been shrinking. I assume most others are too. New era of the internet, it is what it is.
>>98298523Did Britain ever go through with that digitial ID thing? Im pretty sure the US is trying to do the same thing as well. Surveillance state everywhere really will kill the internet.
>>98298523That's just 4chinpo in general, average age on here these days is probably like 25-30 and people are busy. Social media is also sucking away traffic, some people like to try to proselytize the retarded normalfags.
>>98298528I think so? I heard rumours that you could do it with GMod though.
>>982985282027, with a VPN ban lined up for some time in the future.
I changed my mind again, I think Beastmen can become vampires.The warp mechanics are almost identical between settings, and in 40k, the Eldar have their souls claimed by an active agent of the warp. Both the DEldar and the CWEldar can bind their souls to physical objects, post their physical bodies dying.Vampirism is the art of binding the soul to the physical body, I don't see how that's different from binding a soul to a red rock.
Nice to know the weapons, shields, and helmets are interchangable across the knights and warriors
>>98298516Ha!>reminiscent of the armour worn by the Chaos Warriors in the classic kit from the ninetiesTo the anon(s) who was(were) insisting these weren't remakes/iterations of the 1997-1998 kit: Ha, I say!
>>98298175I'd say hell yeah, looks good bro
>>98298574>Both the DEldar and the CWEldar can bind their souls to physical objects, post their physical bodies dyingCan you bind their soul to a toilet or something? I'm sure some DEldar did that at some point with a CWEldar that pissed them off.
>>98298586who the fuck would argue that in good faith?
>>98298586They're glaringly obvious 5e redesigns, what kind of subhuman zoomer retard were you arguing with?
>Chaos Armour>crude manufacture...did someone forget to tell them about chorfs?
>>98298472I fucking hate the new Ungrim Ironfist so goddamn much. He should be in full armour, as is his duty as a king, that was like the core conflict of his character, between his duty and his oath. Making him shirtless is stupid. Also his new axe is worse than his old axe from a design perspective.
Lore question for the RPG: how common and mundane are enemies of mankind to a typical citizen of the Empire in relatively peaceful times? The way I understand it:>orcs and goblins: very real and part of life but usually a distant threat for most citizens in the cities>skaven: a myth most>beastmen: depends on the region, in the city they're more of a story to scare your kids but out in the country people are wary of bigger older forests >chaos: most people never saw a proper warrior of chaos and most cults work in secret, but the people are more or less aware of the dark powers and their corruption as part of the Sigmarite faith>chaos dwarfs: most people didn't even hear about them?>dark elves: ????>undead: nothing makes a person in Empire shit their pants as fast as meeting a ghost, but what do they know about vampires?>ginie: who?If I missed anybody let me know.
>>98298595>>98298606Hell if I know, but there was at least one fool typing such things in previous threads. Go back and see for yourself.A fool, an oaf, a blubbering bumpkin out of his depth on this anonymous Latvian louse enthusiast's forum!
>>98298614I didnt wanna say it but yeah the new dwarf designs are kinda meh. I guess its too showcase a younger ungirm or whatever rubbish.
>>98298609Nah good retcon.Dwarves are slow to reproduce and resistant to chaos, I don't know how the majority of Chaos Warbands would be getting their hands on Chorf gear, also don't the individual Chaos Gods hate each-other. Hashit worshipers shouldn't be handing out gear for free to anybody but other Hashut worshipers, and what do the broke ass people of Norsca have to offer the Chorfs in the first place.
>>98298217>when dumb fanboys pointed out he made thoseYou just reminded me of something I had completely removed from my mind.I had a full on argument online with some of these idiots because I was (and still am) of the opinion that it really should not have been pointed out until much much later. It would have been beneficial for the fans to just let it get cemented into the lore over the course of a couple editions before pointing it out. Now instead nobody gets anything.
>>98298609I feel like it would be reasonable to say that by "crude" they mean mass produced, utilitarian and without careful decoration unlike most high end armour made in the old world. Crude doesnt necessarily mean poorly made
>>98298479NGL his hands would make for great kitbash materials in my plastic slayers regiment. Or even to convert an engineer or something
>>98298516>As a final touch, we ensured that the Dragon could be assembled without a rider, should anyone wish to paint this mighty beast alone.one good news at least
>>98298614I think him literally being half-and-half gets the point across better, but I can see your point, too.
>>98298641>his
>>98298638They call it crude but the chaos armor on the new models looks pretty extravagant rather than crude and utilitarian
>>98298614me too brother in Grimnir.There's something very toy-like in its overly large axe
>>98298631Chaos dwarfs have huge trade networks that stretch up to the chaos wastes, exchanging chaos armour and weapons for the slaves that warbands bring back from the south.Keep in mind that chaos armour is sometimes hinted at as being almost "living" in the lore, and will be in use for centuries or even longer, with each suit often having many owners, so even if its not many being transported, they stay in circulation almost indefinitely. Im sure I remember at least one if not many stories of lost chaos armour being found by someone and it resizing itself to fit the new bearer.
>>98298584I'm tempted by the new chaos but can't decide: do I want the BSB on foot and the Lord on the horse or the other way around? I love having my beatstick Avatar on foot in a deadly block of elite infantry, but a bsb on a horse seems pointless if he has to go with knights that are first in the fight.
>>98298631Bro you're retarded, chorfs are industrialized and trade the armour they produce for fur, meat, slaves and whatever the chaos tribes pillage.
>>98298638I thought the chorf daemon-infused sauce is what made Chaos Armour proper Chaos Armour. Meaning Chaos Armour isn't just wrought iron, they take steel and cram daemons into it. I don't like it just being "meteoric iron" or something lame.
>>98298609they might not take their chaos plate from them at this point of the timeline, if they want to differentiate this era as much as possibleanother thing I was noticing is that there's a specific lack of demonic faces on the models while those are almost omnipresent in aos or 40k chaos designsthe only model making exception is the dragonlord with a demonic face in his sword so they're really underlining the absence of demons at this point
>>98298664I'm going to guess the idea they're going for is the rank and file have the mass produced stuff and then the champions get more artisanal / powerful armour
>>98298651To be fair, most of the other armoured models in the range have the detail quality of 25 years ago hand sculpting and mould design techniques. Compare it to late medieval plate armour from history that empire designs are pulling from and it looks fairly crude and brutal, though no less effective.
>>98298647no wait, you can't be serious.Am I really that out of touch?
>>98298614>>98298654There's some golden demon paintjob which was a conversion using his model as a base, and it is absolutely comical how oversized his axe is. His mohawk does a lot to balance the model.
>>98298674No hes joshing you.
>>98298664original fluff is that chaos armor is a gift of the gods, either handed as is or is some magic juice imbued into whatever armor the chaos warrior ends up getting one way or anotherif I remember correctly the idea that they took the armors from the chaos dwarfs came from 6th edition when warriors got a way more standardised look, but it wasn't a particularly important notein any case whenever chaos is involved you can be sure that there are a dozen different ways to do the same thing, and a dozen different looks for the same thing
>>98298664I think it's just inconsistent and we have to live with it. But yeah, chaos armours are supposed to be infused with chaos energy and can never be taken off.
>>98298657I feel like I gotta go with the Karrig Sturn reference the mounted models clearly meant to be
>>98298656>>98298664I thought the idea was that the Chaos Gods enchanted the armor with the lores of Chaos as one of the rewards for selling your soul and servicing the ruinous powers. What's the point of selling your soul if half the benefits you are getting are coming from a store shelf.>>98298660What the complex diesel train network that connects to every rinky dink tribe in Norsca (and Eastern Steppes and the Southlands) or are there Chorf run Wal-Marts that Warriors of Chaos must make a pilgrimage to before going to fight the forces of order.
>>98298654I gotta say Ive felt that ever since the last dwarf refresh Ive felt like dwarfs feel like the "tonka trucks" of WFB
>>98298593The spirit stones are basically just USBs that can hold a soul, if you have Spirit Stone you could make a CWEldar inhabitante anything that has a Spirit Stone compatability.
>>98298617Average human goes their entire life without seeing an elf of any kind. This is when you consider that High Elves have a great trade kindgom whose capital that is majority non-elf.You can imagine how much less likely it is for somebody to wncounter a Dark Elf or Wood Elf (which you forgot).
>>98298697>What's the point of selling your soul if half the benefits you are getting are coming from a store shelf.I believe there's a disconnect between what the ideal chaos warrior is and what the most common "chaos warrior" would be.Because surely there is a step in-between being a half naked norscan marauder and a fully clad warrior blessed by the gods, and that step would be 'mere' norscan veterans in full plate armor that still have to catch the eye of the gods.
>>98298404>Open Stone and Steel.doc">Select All>Copy>Paste>Save As Lords of Stone and Steel.doc
>>98298697Easily could be both for gift from the gods vs trade, with some being directly handed to warriors by the gods or the warriors being l"led" to ancient suits of armour by their influence and other being exchanged in trade with the chaos dwarfs. It was introduced in at least as early as an old gotrek and felix that the chaos dwarfs are shipping armanents up there on an industrial scale and also mentioned in the storm of chaos when they introduced the hell cannon. Not sure if there are earlier references but I guess chaos dwarfs were more interlinked anyway early on.>What the complex diesel train network that connects to every rinky dink tribe in NorscaNorsca doesnt generally have chaos warriors, neither do the steppe tribes. They will have chaos warriors return to them in times of war from the chaos wastes but they dont generally hang out with the tribes they originally came from in "peacetime". Chaos warriors are generally those who have left those tribes and headed for the polar wastes and become chaos warriors after years (or centuries given some of the weird time warping effects) there. Its been mentioned more than once they cant even take their armour off, only once they are dead can it be removed.They would trade weapons to those warbands in the polar wastes the same way arms dealers do in modern conflict zones, through warband leaders or chaos lords who then give the armour as gifts to their chosen warriors.
>>98298584>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/sybfdsyw/old-world-almanack-warriors-of-chaos-designers-notes/which does support the theory of upgrade kits for Warriors
>>98298472>That implies a cult classic beloved range is being retired with dignity after having run its courseNo, it literally origins from Squats being taken behind the shed and clubbed to death by Deus-ex-Tyranids.
>>98298697You're genuinely retarded bro
>>98298617Most humans don't know what Dark elves are since the other types of elves are mysterious and don't talk about them to humans. The Temple of Spite book has multiple examples of Dark elves just pretending to be high elves and working with humans either as mercenaries or merchants for their own goalsDwarfs purposely keep the knowledge of Chaos Dwarfs secretGoblins are much more common in the Empire and other non-Montainian human areas than Orcs
>>98298748It kinda doesn’t. Looking at the sprue you would need to make sure the upgrade sprue has to be personalized for each of the warriors because of the poses.
>>98298762>Looking at the sprue you would need to make sure the upgrade sprue has to be personalized for each of the warriors because of the posesThis is how it works with HH upgrade sprues though.
>>98298762maybe but the hand weapons from the warriors kit can be used on the Knight kit which is an interesting choice
>>98298748>>98298762Genuinely don't know how they'd actually do upgrade sprues for these models. I could maaaaaybe see great weapons but I would struggle to see halberds ever being doable with the poses and have any chance at ranking.I know GW is incredibly dogshit at communicating intentions in a way that actually scares off purchases so they'd rather cut their own dicks off than just tell us upgrade sprues are in the pipeline but even so I just really feel likt there's not going to be any.
>>98298768It’s not to the same degree as marines at all. You can put any of the upgrade sprues on any of the current HH marine marks and they’ll work with each other no issue. They also aren’t bogged down by having to rank up.
>>98298777monogod kits halberd could also work
>>98298770I feel like that is an incredibly easy swap, whereas going from one handed to two handed dynamic poses with very closely ranked up models is a massive difference.Maybe well see additional hand weapons but I feel like theyll just tell us to go fuck ourselves and convert them
I think weapons are already sculpted onto the bodies, for whatever reason.
>>98298789That is only the champion for the warriors, the rest have separate hands.
>>98298736I didn't forget dark elves and didn't bring up woodies since usually they're not on the enemy list despite being dicks.>>98298758There are still some slave raids into the Empire by the dark elves so some people near the coasts probably have some idea?I've been reading Troll Slayer and Felix heard rumors about chorfs and assumed that at least some people heard about bad dwarfs in the north, even if it's mostly people at the universities?
>>98298744So is the Chorf mart at the North Pole then? The point of the question is that if 100% of WoC gear is Chorf in orign, there has to be a point where the average Norscan gets rid of his terrible tribal craft weapons for industrial grade steel weapons.Again I don't see why you would serve any form of Chaos other than Hashut or Undivded when the 5+ ward save comes from the Chorfs sell for goods not, why would I sell my soul to Khorne when I can just sell meat and slaves to Chorfs and get almost as strong?
>>98298792Chorfs are to the east of the old world the north dwarfs are the Norse dwarfs who aren't corrupted by chaos. I think the dwarfs are just proactive in making sure humans don't know about Chorfs than the elves are about Dark elves
>>98298792Wood elves are generally going to kill a human on sight, it you run across a Dark or Wood Elf your life almost certainly just ended.
Warhammer 2e/3eChaos ThugsChaos MaraudersChaos Warriors (all hero units)Chaos Champions (heroes and leaders)Warhammer 4e to nowChaos MaraudersChaos WarriorsChaos ChosenChaos Champions (heroes and leaders)
>>98298817Though imperial forest WEs are just standoffish and occasionally trade.They were just deprioritised in lore from 4e WFB onwards.
when are we getting new pygmies
>>98298796>If 100% of WoC gear is chorf in originI literally said that its probably a mix you fucking retard.>Is the chorf mart at the North Pole then?Do you not know what a trade convoy is? I know amerifats cant conceive of purchasing something from anywhere other than a walmart but I believe with enough effort you can use your two brain cells and understand this very basic idea.
>>98298827When the UK becomes an Anglo-Norman ethno-stateSo never
>>98298723Can I shove a spirit stone in my butt and pretend I'm having sex with an eldar?
>>98298834Then you're not who I'm arguing with. I'm talking to the people upset by the idea X% of Chaos Warriors have Crudely Manufactured armor.I know what a trade caravan is, and if Chorf Gears is not universal, it's easy to imagine the occasional convoy of airships or group of foot selling powerful artifacts and some elite weapons to Chaos Warriors.If no chaos warrior is allowed to have native equipment that is just blessed by the gods, and literally all their armored units are coming from Chorf factories, then they need standing markets that are consitently present and stocked to face constant demands.
>>98298817>>98298792>>98298736The 2e WFRP Bret sourcebook has some stuff on this. Dark Elf corsairs semi-frequently raid the Lyonesse coast for slaves and plunder, and there are also occasional full on DElf invasions once every few centuries, should the kings of Bretonnia get too chummy with the HElves.Wood Elves in Athel Loren have very limited, but existent contact with the peasants living on the forests borders. There are usually some ancient treaties outlining how far and how much the peasants can take from the forest before being killed and strung up from branches as warnings to others. It's kind of implied Elves are kind of fed up with peasants constantly fucking up because after like 5 generations the inbred illiterate peasants will start losing the details of what exactly was agreed while the Elves remember perfectly well since they are the same ones that gave them the terms 200 years ago. Which then leads to the WElfs salying out of the forest to burn down the offending villages.
>>98298239rumors have swirled about new infantry, cavalry and chariots. would make so much sense to put all of that into a new battle march box with a priest and herald from the character kits.
>>98298645How many Galrauch's will be converted from this kit?
>>98298381I'm sorry anon... I just really can't get into the aesthetic. I want dark fantasy HYW god damn it, not MLP tier worldbuilding.
>>98298884not sure, he's not THAT mutated to be a proper galrauch to me
>>98298758Depends on whether you live on a coast or not. Anyone human that lives on a coast knows what Dark Elves and Norscans are even if they have never seen them themselves. The further inland your are the less likely you are to know about either.
>>98298175Uncomfortable, probably, knowing I'm facing a coomer on the battlefield, but hey it's his money an as long as they properly painted and the game is entertaining, to each his own
>>98298985You just know he's jizzed on at least one of them.
>>98298175I'd ask him where the punani is on these things.
>>98298991Remember to drill your pussies and asses
Will the core set have the updated chaos warrior rules? Or do we have to wait for the arcane journal for those?
>>98299031They’re still stuck without full plate without the aj
>>98299031The core box has a muster list book which has statblocks for all the models, but it seems the WoC ones are the same as the ones found in Ravaging Hordes
>>98299031Still >heavy armourFrom the horses mouth on WHC, it is officially"Heavy chaos armour". Somehow humans with hats abd a plate shirt or orcs with ramshackle looted armour have plate where chaos warriors covered head to toe in thick spiky plate is just heavy armour.
>>98299082does it really matter though?with hw+shield they get a 3+ save anyways which is the maximum.
>tfw no one wants the cathay half of the boxebay is such a hassle
>>98299094They really fucked up with the Cathay half. Almost like they're trying to get rid of stock
>>98299088Sure but its more to do with the visual and rule disparity. That and 3+ with plate+shield makes a huge difference outside of melee when getting shot.
>>98298713To me the issue started with the design direction taken in 2006, at the end of 6th ed.I understand it from a business point of view (wanting to unify everything visually) but it really does feel that they went about it the worst way possible.All the plastic dwarfs from this point onward have a very doll-like quality to them. They're not horrible, they're serviceable enough but it really is a downgrade from what we had before.Not to mention that the plastics themselves are absolute trash, with gaps everywhere and no true compatibility among the sprues (despite looking identical, Warriors/Thunderers/Miners do not easily mix and match).The 8th edition plastics are an ok kit. I remember how everyone rejoiced at finally having plastic hammerers after years and years of identical monopose clones (which desu I didn't really mind), and the plastic longbeards are decent enough.it also sucks that dwarfs never got the mounted/foot hero plastic kit every other army got.
>>98299104>it also sucks that dwarfs never got the mounted/foot hero plastic kit every other army got.dude
>>98299088It does matter if you're running them with halberds or great weapons. And you say "when getting shot" as if that's not how 90% of your warriors are going to be dying.There's a reason chaos warriors were good in 8th and awful in 6th and TOW. For all the sins 8th committed, 2A FPA chaos warriors were a good idea.
>>98298908How hard would it be to mutate him up?
>>98299110we got this with TOW, literally 15 years after everyone else started getting them. There was one planned in the late 2000's but the mold was damaged or the sculpting quality wasn't up to standards (it's never been clear).Also fuck you Harry from Warseer; you won the auction for this thing when it went up for sale on ebay and you specifically said you'd build it and paint it and post pictures in your picture log called "This week I've mostly been painting".I even asked you about it a while later and you you told me not to worry and that "it would be coming soon". It's been over a decade, Harry, and no picture ever came to be. You're in my book of grudges and will stay there forever.
>>98298400She went from community manager to brand manager at CA. She's in charge of total war warhammer
>>98299137Let's be real nothing of value was lost there
>>98299102Wouldn't be surprised if they overproduced Cathay after the initial rush of sales due to expecting continued demand
>>98299104God that whole "dwarfs don't use wood" thing infuriates the shit out of me.I liked the older dwarfs better than the straight edges everything is viking now remake
hello dear friends. can someone pls help me find decent trees for display/gaming? i just cant find nice cheap trees/woodlands whatever at my lgs or scamazon
>>98299196I like it, it makes them subtly distinctive.
>>98298238Can't wait to give these guys a blue tint. Tzeentchian monsters.
>>98299221First of all, those gobbos are delightful. Where are you based? In Europe you should check Rail transport modelling shops for trees and landscaping elements. Not sure how prevalent these are in other parts of the globe.
>>98299221I found mine at the dollar store. They have all kinds of little Christmas and diorama stuff for kids that are roughly the right size. And trees are trees unless you specifically want fucked up ones.
>>98298516>>98298584>>98299088We're definitely getting those rumoured upgrade sprues. No reason to make them so interchangeable while not having many actual base options.
>>98299247Yeah, the normal kit is probably going to come with the full sprues, which encourages you to buy them in addition to the limited starter kit.
>>98298051It's actually not. I'm fact getting nothing would have been less offensive
>>98299186They sold really well at first though. Everything was sold out constantly. Not sure what happened afterwards.
>>98299317We have no way of knowing that. Being sold out is a matter of production volume vs demand and we don't have numbers for either.
>>98298617Think you've slightly underestimated the amount of beastman... From what I've gathered they're a pretty routine issue for Roadwardens and such to handle, on par with human banditry, not solely confined to old hidden forests. (Though their numbers don't reach Genuine Threat level so much) Especially considering how many of them start as human turnskins born inside civilization, they're going to have small clusters of mutants living within raiding distance of the nearest town. I'm sure misinformation is rife w.r.t. all Undead as you mention. One of my favorite details in the Old World Bestiary from WFRP 2e is the in-universe "peasant quotes" about every monster and creature, many of which are blatantly incorrect. I'd say that peasants are aware of vampires, ghouls, etc, but don't understand them properly at all. Chaos Dwarfs are barely known of, especially because they're a massive taboo for normal Dwarfs to even mention. Elves have a presence in Altdorf and Marienburg but your average peasant doesn't know the difference between their three flavors, or anything about them really.
>>98299153oh no of course. It looks like all the other 6.5 plastic, with the triangular body and porcelain faces.But it's still a shame I know teenage me would have loved it, all those bits would have made for a ton of customized characters>>98299196Yeah it's literally a load of bullshit. That and the axes/hammer only choice for weapons.>GNE GNE GNE dwarfs don't use anything made out of wood>GNE GNE GNE dwarfs only use weapons that are also tools>GNE GNE GNEThe, please tell me GW, why in the name of fuck do they mostly use a weapon that's also a tool for cutting fucking wood?
>>98299406>why in the name of fuck do they mostly use a weapon that's also a tool for cutting fucking wood?kek
>>98299406>The, please tell me GW, why in the name of fuck do they mostly use a weapon that's also a tool for cutting fucking wood?They burn wood, they just don't make warmachines with it.
>>98298617dark elves are pretty damn rare (though you kinda have to ignore some of their lore stating how fast they churn through slaves as it'd leave them having to completely depopulate the coastlines to stay even), they rarely leave any witnesses and if they do they're often not really sure what they were dealing with.the average peasant wouldn't know they exist, a coastal dweller might hear stories of evil sea daemons that steal whole villages away, seasoned sailors might well know of stories of the black arks and their masters
>>98299518Dark Elves were super active around the time that TOW is set in and would be common knowledge. The High Elves only returned to the Old World in the year 2150 when they started trading with Marienburg, it was all Druchii all the time prior to that.
>>98299406Aren't the handles of their axes and hammer made out of wood?
>>98299550>Aren't the handles of their axes and hammer made out of wood?No.
Someone convince me to just wait for the standalone WoC boxThe ruinous powers are tempting me to CONSOOM
>>98299590if you scour fb trading communities you might find someone to split with, but given the fact that the other side is cathay it's going to be difficult.
>>98299601There was one anon that was reallly keen on Cathay, so you might your chance to split it
>>98299237theres a model train kind of shop near me that ive been too scared to enter. its just walls and shelves of cars and trains and i dont see anything else on their website or photos, just straight up model kits.>>98299238im not in america and we have shitty “dollar” stores here but ill check. i do want the trees to have free-standing bases, but if i have to paint them I shall.
Some YouTubers have started posting the new rules for Battle March Looks like it has some interesting stuff
>>98299601Everyone near me is trying to offload the Cathay side lol
>>98298305Honestly I can't imagine continuing to buy figures at any time after they stopped using white metal for unique characters. I don't really care how the community in general feels about those things, or if the economics or paint or whatever justify it. It's just ridiculous to be the premier supplier for premium game models and move from metal to plastic for your highest-end figures. I'd literally rather just everyone had to pay 3x and at least know work was going into delivering the products despite economic conditions.When they "drastically reduced" white metal models, I never bought another primary product and never looked back. 3D printing covers all your needs and there's literally no serials or identifiers on models anyway. Fuck GW.
>>98299609>its just walls and shelves of cars and trainsthat's the spot, go for it
>>98299625k
>>98299633>You've confirmed that you'd like to know more.I originally collected Tomb Kings. But after assembling and painting them, I realized I wanted to be a Skaven player and begged my parents for a Screaming Bell. They never bought it for me and I took a long break after that.
>>98298175I can't really say anything since I went whole hog on a Slaaneshi brayherd. Of course, it's not my "in public" army, but I generally don't care what models people use, so long as I can tell what they are. Bonus points if you do custom shit, though.
What army will be set free from the Legends cage next?
>>98299700Dark elves probably
>>98299686>it's not my "in public" armyNo one with a functioning brain is going to be upset that your army men have nipples
>>98299716I heard maybe vampires but that seems to be based on nothing. I'd take it.
>>98299419I honestly missed this kind of autism on the board. Lore arguments are so rare nowadays. Whatever this dwarfag anon is complaining about is orders of magnitude better than the usual AoS/TOW arguments we get, or the endless discussion and trolling about diversity in miniatures; or yet another thread derailed on complaining about alternative miniatures or GW's business practice
>>98299723Correct, but I'd rather not be dogged by retards when I go out to play with randoms. I also like the guys who run my LGSs and I'd rather not force them to deal with retards either.
>>98299700Everyone agrees it's Dark Elves, especially now that they've committed Ogres to AoS. VC, Skaven, chorfs, and Ogres never ever. Chorfs got it the worst, imagine getting hit with DEI WoW models so fucked that you're better off 3D printing than trying to convert them.
>>98299745I dig it.
>>98299485>>98299559This is pretty stupid. The race that's described everywhere as being master craftsmen would absolutely know and take advantage of the physical properties of wood. It makes sense to prefer metal over wood in most things, but to go "all metal all the time" makes no sense.It's just the typical warhammer retardation, akin to removing spears, polearms and swords from dwarfs.
>>98299745I like the one with the dish, I'd paint it to be filled with milk
>>98298472>>98298614All Pinhead Dwarfs are shit.
>>98299813>akin to removing spears, polearms and swords from dwarfs.They did that so that they wouldn’t be too reminiscent with lotr dwaves. But yes dwarf lore is pretty retarded.
So like... Do the lizardmen have two dicks or how does it work for them?
>>98299819I've actually painted my greater bray-shaman there, but I'm holding off taking an updated picture until I figure out what I want to do with base. I was leaning towards the middle or the left picture with a brazier, but a plate or bowl with milk is a pretty good idea. Her whole shtick is fertility, so it works.
>>98299841Fuck, meant middle and right.
>>98299841libation is also a classic religious motiv, so it'll look proper cultish. I with GW would do slaanesh like that.
Do dragon ogres have females in canon?
>>98299857yes
>>98299834there's famous documentary, in the form of a comic book, that explains exactly this.
>>98299867May I see one?
>>98299877noI think one shows up in a BL book but i don't know which one
>>98298617The whole point of Warhammer Fantasy(which GW have forgotten in their quest for ever more expensive centrepieces to sell) from a human faction perspective is >what if X period of history in Y country, but all their myths and fairy tales and superstitions were kinda realand that only really works if most people still encounter this stuff rarely enough that they can be myths or fairy tales or superstitions that can just turn out to be real at the right point in a tale of woe or horror. If Hans and Adolf have to butcher their way through a tribe of beastmen every time they take their harvest to market they stop being the terrifying stuff of nightmares and just become mundane. In general, people should be ignorant - not unknowing, not disbelieving, but 80%+ incorrect about any given creepy crawly thing. They should be absolutely convinced about a bunch of rituals to ward off this or that, or what Vampires are like, or signs to tell if a pregnant woman is going to give birth to a mutant etc, all of which are total bullshit. "Learned" people should also be wrong, but less because they credulously accept bullshit and more because they're completely confident in their own theories which are just fucking waaaay off.Undead shouldn't be commonplace outside of Sylvania(literally what's the point of a God of Death who's rituals supposedly protect your dead if any dipshit who buys a spell off a shonky Strigany caravan can just start raising the dead willy-nilly). Outside of major urban centres(pretty much Altdorf and the big ports) Elves should be rare as shit and viewed with a mixture of awe and fear - human perception of Elves has been influenced heavily by Dwarfs, as well as by stories of people vanishing if they stray too far into the wrong forest or whole villages being depopulated when a fog rolls in off the sea, and most people aren't going to know or care about the distinctions between types of Elf. For Chaos just look at how people used to regard Satan.
>>98299590find a fool at the lgs to split it
Abhorash can't be held responsible for Harkons actions.Abhorash just saved the life of some guy in the desert, how is it Abhorash's fault that somebody he didn't even know turned out to be evil.
>>98298141Anything after 4th edition is trannylore, yes.
>Kholek Suneater was last seen by mortal eyes during Asavar Kul’s great invasion, striding south with his armies under the cover of a ferocious blizzard. The histories of that time describe a raging storm-beast tall enough to look over the ramparts of Praag, a god of winter who smashed his way into the city with pure brute force. The sagas tell of how the monstrosity stalked the Old Quarter of the city, demolishing each and every temple within the city walls before returning to his glacial realm.So this nigger getting a model or what?>>98299921Does Harkon have the exact same background as the Red Duke? Why is Abhorash always turning dudes in the desert?
>>98299917No one wants Cathay.
>>98299590You won't be able to get rid of Cathay and the standalone box gives you a bigger variety of units to paint and is also good to buy two of. Just have to buy the champions separately. HOWEVER, wait for the price to be revealed and do the maths yourself.
>>98298890>I want dark fantasy HYW god damn itThat is precisely what they were. 6e Bretonnia has about as much to do with HYW armies and aesthetics as a Renaissance Faire in Kansas.
>>98299854I created my brayherd around three different lords for a narrative campaign I'm in. A greater bray-shaman centered around dark fertility, a bestigor centered around martial perfection, and a fat-fuck ungor centered around feasting and festivals. I think anything libation related would be better served with the ungor. I think I posted some of the early work on some of the units of fat ungors I was working on. I could use some unit fillers for those, so something like a big vat or half barrel used to crush grapes, or a ceremonial fountain for wine would be good for that.
>>98299900It became a wargame. I don't see how Daemons can be myths to lords who have to levy any army to defend the realm against Daemons. I don't know why the sale of Greater Daemons offends you, because the average illiterate farmer doesn't know about greater daemons. Fantasy Battle isn't about your average illiterate farmer. It might contain formerly average illiterate farmers, but after they were levied into a FANTASY BATTLE they aren't average anymore.
>>98300019sounds great, looking forward to the results
>>98300026This. I rember in one G&F book Felix visits his faggy richfag merchant brother, who lives a totally normal and mundane HRE nobleman's life, and he talks about Chaos the same way a HRE Germ would talk about Hell: superstitiously, frightened and uncomfortable to even discuss it.
>>98299972>the standalone box gives you a bigger variety of units to paintWhat's in the standalone?
>>98299954>Why is Abhorash always turning dudes in the desert?He lives there.
>>98298175I'd call him based but I'd still target these with my artillery.
>>98299954No my bad I stronked out, Harkon doesn't have a background on how he he became a vampire, I merged them.
>>98299104Is that King Jaldeog?
>>98299877>>98299878
>fuck dragon ogress >she gives birth to a normal human I feel robbed.
>>98300075
>>98300121that sorcerer is such bullshit
>>98300126Im more upset about the marauders, I would have taken just dragon ogres or chaos hounds instead.
>>98300121So you get the sorc and marauders, but lose out on the aspiring champion and get half as many Warriors>1 Aspiring Champion on a Daemonic Mount>1 Aspiring Champion with Battle Standard>16 Chaos Warriors>4 Chaos KnightsI had a good bonus this year, maybe I'll just oink oink and get both.
>>98300138I guess they're not everyone's cup of tea but I'm not gonna complain about nice new models instead of ancient stock.Unless they're foot knights.
>>98300147Wish the core set had 8 chaos knights.
>>98300078I could see him pretty much openly inhabiting some sort of safe house in the ruins of Lahmia by himself, the TK know better than to try and oust him.
>>98300121>we lost battalions for this bullshit
>>98300112Kek
>>98300066A merchant isn't in the position to encounter Deamons or even WoC all that often. These just aren't the threats he would deal with, especially if he is trading inland only.I don't disagree, in the major, with his assessment of who should be aware of the more fantasy threats. I disagree that selling a Great Unclean One is a betrayl of the setting.
>>98300203Well time to get into Cathay I guess.
>>98299947you forgot your name on
>>98300203This image does lend some credence to welf v TK as the next dual set
>>98300203Grand Cathay value is wrong, its 245$. - 1/2 Iron Hail Gunners & Crane Gunner Teams is 45$- 1/2 Jade Lancers is 45$- Shugengan Lord on Great Spirit Longma is 65$- Jade Warriors is 90$
>>98300203I dunno if its funny or sad that AOS spearheads are better value than this if your faction has an equivalent to this.
These damn river trolls don't want to stand straight. Guess I'm cutting up some bits of extra sprues tonight to make tactical rocks.
>>98300263Off the top of my head I think most spearheads are around 30% discount, with some going just over 40% at the high end.Of course recently they've started shittifying those more and more by putting recycled warcry warbands in them, doubling up on shitty units, etc. Conpare the old vs new nurgle spearhead for example.
>>98300203Can we get these in real currencies? GW conversion rates are black voodoo magic.
>>98300383Just check their store for something of the same price, and then convert to your native currency.
>>98300203is this in new zealand dollars or something
>>98300400American
>>98300400When do preorders go up in New Zealand anyway?
>>98300383170 usd is 135 euros or 105 bong pounds. Same price as combat patrols iirc.For comparison spearhead is 120 euros these days
>>98300203Wood elf bros…soon
>>98300383>>98300203Cost the exact same as a Combat Patrol. As predicted. Although I struggle to see how they are going to sell a value box with only 14% savings. That like twice as bad as the worst combat patrols. Smells like bullshit to me
>>98300445Those are the battalion box prices
>>98300442Welf and dwarf sets are still being sold while all the other ones have been pulled from the GW page
>>98300457Battalions are $195. Combat patrols are $170
>>98300482They used to be $180.
>>98300463Not on the us webstore
Wait why the fuck do the new chaos knight horses look like that? The proportions look fucked.
>>98300488yes they are>https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/battalion-dwarfen-mountain-holds-2024>https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/battalion-wood-elf-realms-2025
>>98300203>$170 for 18 models GW fans really are broken men
>>98300490Anon, can you point out a single Warhammer horse where the proportion ARENT fucked up?
>>98300121You're probably expected to combine them with the starter box>lord >bsb>caster hero>block of marauders for chaff>two blocks heavy infantry warriors >hard hitting two row knight block>marauders on horses to screen for themAnd it's almost 1500 before marks and items.
>>98300515No wait I added those points using 6e point values, I don't know how much they would be on ToW.
>>98300203How are high elves only 18 figures?>5 archers>5 riders>10 seaguard >1 bird chariot(no, I'm not counting the hero as another figure it's part of the kit)Pretty fucking shit compared to the 66 figures of the battalion as is.
>>98300529based on this image?
>>98300203>orcs and Goblins>29 modelsWhat??? Less than even Chaos? Unless they include a giant, this seems mental.
>>98300534That's 22 figures since I forgot it includes the chariot. So a full two thirds of the old box for only $15 less. What a steal.
>>98300563A full two thirds *less than the old box.
I ended up buying both Mawtribes Spearhead boxes to build a 1000pts Ogres army. Watch GW bringing Ogre Kingdoms back with a 75% discount box in two weeks tops.
>>98300571tbf didn't a lot of people not like the old high elf box due to how old the Spearman and Archers were?
>>98300529That'll be $170 + tip, chump lmfao
>>98300574>two weeks
>>98300490Scandi horses are fat
>>98300576No, it's because infantry is weak and they wanted to metagame.
>>98300591Do their horses have fat asses too? Cause that’s my issue with the chaos knights
>>98300591wheels on that cart are tiny
>>98300585Is perryfag taking pictures of himself again?
new stuff up in New Zeland
>>98300661They are hyping those new WoC quite much.
>>98300677Are they using ai for this
>This book contains all the information you need to get started in this engaging game and become the conquering general of a fantasy army. This revised edition has been updated to include rule clarifications and adjustments previously found in the online errata and FAQs, as well as the Core Rules for Battle March and new artwork. It does not contain some mission rules found in Battle March: General’s Companion, available separately.Nice to have it confirmed.
>>98300681doesn't look like itThe HH boxes' arts are more than just touched-up models
>>98300686The book feels like a waste of money They couldn’t have even cleaned it up to make it more legible
>>98300691I will try to snatch it from the secondary market for 15-20 eurobucks from scalpers.
>>98300686They also removed three normal mission rules which were in the older rulebook which are>Surprise Encounter>The Dark Monolith>Heroic Last StandThe Battle March rules will probably see more use
>>98300164A variety of units that are a ready to go playable army, vs a bunch of core troops.This seems like an upgrade to me.
>>98300203how the fuck does the O&G box only have 29 models in it?
>>98300203How do we know the contents?What's in the beastmen one?
>>98300746You are actual fucking cattle
>>98300757You have never bought a model in your life.
MTO is up anyone make sense of NZ pricing for those models?
>>98298175I got a shaggoth and 3 regular dragon ogres. What colour should i paint the dragony bits? Seems people usually go for green but i'm already doing a green woodland bases so might want to do some other colour
>>98300810Dragon ogres also have dark red, brown, greyish dragon scales as well when it comes to official art/lore if you wanna stick to that.
>your game is against nurgle daemons and woc player who dips his minis in diarrheaWhat would you do
>>98300946Go talk to the owner and get the autist banned from the store again
>>98300946I would refuse to play.
>>98300810Make them that blue color lizardmen have but darker/dirty/scarred etc.
>>98300946Same answer as the guy who used his own blood to paint his Khorne minis
>>98300203So considering we know the HE battle march set has more than 18 models this is all bullshit right?
>>98301226>Slaaneshwelp, don't need to think about anything further here
>>98301251>SlaaneshI said Khorne you DEGENERATE
>>98300746>more money foe less figures is good because [arbitrary GW rules bullshit]You are beneath dirt.
>>9830056323 models isn't it? Tiranoc Chariot - $45Skycutter - $8210 Spearmen - $455 Elyrian reavers - $44.505 Shadow Warriors - $27.501 Lothern Sea Helm - Not sure on his price desuSo the cost is $244 before the Sea Helm is included. Could be worth a bit less depending on whether the chariot gets an option for horses or tigers
>>98301439oh i see the Sea Helm is part of the Skycutter kit, still it's a 30%~ discount not 15%
>>98300442God I hope so, I'd kill a man for new wardancers and warhawk ridersThis image was how I got into warhammer and there's no real model that matches the sheer aura of that Glade Lord
>>98301486I think the dead beastmen are honestly more impressionable than the gay fucking hobo elf’s
>>98301494Broo ripoffs are only interesting by user input, their fluff is worthless:>hi we are rape goats we rape and eat and hate walls and roads all we do is be starter mobs in an rpg but also we hate chaos now for some reason?
>>98301494Listen man that image, the one artwork of a Grail Knight fighting a Keeper of Secrets and that one cover of the Vampire Count with a big ass red cloak irreversibly changed me
No more excuses.. prepare to be spammed with terrain in the coming weeks and months
>>98301525Based.
>>98300232With all new Models as the rumors suggest.I hope they follow this pattern and put out 3-4 of these per year over the next few years
>>98301525>buildingsCompletely unnecessary and not even usable for TOW
Man, I hope it doesn't take forever to sell my chaos half of the starter set.
>>98300508Its a guess based on the picture there's zero evidence that is the contents of a box
>>98301556Where might one find these rumors? I've been hopeful for TOW since it was announced but i'm waiting for new models to buy in
>>98301562How much you want?
>>98300698Aw fuck those were my favourite
>>98301561You saying TOW doesn't use buildings?
>>98301574I follow this thread https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/38435-warhammer-the-old-world-news-and-rumours-thread/?&page=405#commentsRumors from the mongers says TK and WE were supposed to be n the core kit with all new models on both sides. Infantry, cavalry and chariots for TK no mention of what to expect with the WE.
>>98301619>TGA FAGGOTFuck off and stay there and in Reddit.
>>98301625I don't post there I just read the rumorsIf rumors are what you're looking for you want find them here until they're old
>>98301516>that one cover of the Vampire Count with a big ass red cloakHope you mean this one and not the 8th ed. cover.
>>98301593Yeah you'd know if you ever played it
>>98301619Given the skycutter i suppose it's unlikely they get a new eagle model.
From the new version of the rulebook
>>98301661No games. >>98301525Keep us posted. Terrain is legit my favorite part of the hobby.
Might just flip a coin to decide for me
The people YEARN for Battle March.
>>98301525Based. I finally broke a very long hiatus and started some skeletons over here... I haven't painted in so long and they're coming up a bit messy but skellys are hard to fuck up. I also have a FDM printer which is absolutely great for terrain, but Ive mostly used it to print dinosaur bones.
What time does the new core set go up for preorder?
>>98301849Tomorrow, no? I think it's already up in Kiwilandia.
My only concern with Battle March is the use of big units like Giant Chaos Spawn and cathay balloons. There is very little which could shut them down.
>>98302007is battle march just a low point format or a fixed unit roster like spearhead for aos?if its just low point with pick your own units, you could house rule nothing above a certain point threshold per model. if its per model it wont effect things like infantry and cavalry but will hem in shit like balloons and sentinels
>>98302007You're overestimating the giantic chaos spawn. 5 chosen knights would be much scarier.
>>98302007Hard points limits on certain slots, or restricted lists.It's a 750 point format, not exactly permissive of big thronglers.
>>98302007Its mid-large units that are the deadliest in battle march. The preytons, the organ guns, the hammerers, the doom divers, etc. The units around 150-170 pts that make big splashes. Units that crank out wounds but are low wounds themselves. Battlemarch is often decided by who brought the most wounds to the table, where goblins, zombies, and peasants just take too much effort to break without proper stopping power.
I hope they make it so units outside of Core can also score. I really want stuff like bestigors and greatswords be more useful
Wait does the Iron Hail Gunner/Crane Gunner box build BOTH? Or is it a builds A or B? I was assuming it builds A or B and was getting kinda mad.
>>98302135Its both. You dont get options at all with that kit iirc.
>>98302137I mean that does alleviete my concerns a little bit. I was worried it was going to be my Necrons all over again and I need way too many of the one box that build Immortals
>>98299196>dwarfs don't use woodThat just raises further questions; What do they make barrels out of? What do they use for support beams of their mines? Their furniture? It's one of those newer lore bits that, imo, is best ignored
Ok these new boxes are definitely ripoffs. With discounts I paid €116 for a batallion and combat patrols cost €108. Granted if you want the models in them, a discount's a discount and they're not all 90% shitty old spearmen or something.But STILL
Guessing the dwarf one is the best value, the beastmen and empire ones are worthless.
>>98302041What do you do vs one then? Throw an expendable unit to slow it down? Bring a warmachine?>>98302043Sure but at 600 points, you can squeeze one in.
>>98302384Hey, that orc one aint so bad.
>>98302384>two fucking gyros againyuck
>>98302423Never played against dwarfs so I don't truly understand how they win (well, except 20 years ago when I was 11) Are gyros necessary for dwarfs as an army to work? Do you really need them to tie down fast units, archers or artillery, or can you just outshoot with your own ranged and arty?
>>98302464Gyros you can harrass the enemy with impunity as no one can catch them. Logic is you disrupt the enemy, forcing them to advance or chase your gyros. Rest of your army meets whats left and destroys them.
>Rohan riders already sold outthat was quick
I'm glad the cathay half is so ass otherwise I might be more tempted. I really don't need another army though as neat as those CW look.
Why yes I am a paypiggy
>>98302472I guessed as much, but are they a mandatory take due to the meta? Or do you also have the option of forcing the enemy to engage your M3 bricks by threatening them with cannons if they don't?
>>98302493You didn't get the Baggage carts so you're not that much of a paypigThe orc raiders and Hrothyogg will never be cheaper again
>>98302510Those baggage carts were just a bridge too far for me, you can easily get cheaper elsewhere for roughly the same feel or just build your own. I also feel like building your own wouldn't even be that hard and have much more sovl to it.
Why isn't this up for pre-order yet?
>>98302542They didn't want to blow their entire TOW load in one week anon
>>98302542because they are not releasing the WoC stuff seperately yet.
>>98302493>only one of each>no cart or ogres with hand weaponsCAM ON PIGGY SCORE SUM FUCKING HOARDS
>>98302493I tried to be one too, but James just charged my card without accepting my order. Fucking GW I swear.
>TK and WE got no musterlistcoincidence?
Do they fit on 25mm bases? Anyone tried ranking them up?
>>98302569That sucks anon
>>98302569Contact GW customer support. I sm not joking, they are 10/10 and will rectify.
>>98302509That is perfectly viable and with anyone with str4 shots, they can snipe gyros for free real estate and start pulling a Battle of Falkirk (diyting ducks eating arrows) on your dwarfs. You can work fine without gyros.
>>98302612I suppose I'll have to on monday.
so no WE or TK battle march box?
>>98302670Have you seen any announcement?
>>98302670tbf we technically haven't seen any BM boxes for any of the factions except WoC and cathay
>>98302670no, they are getting their long rumored versus box.
What do you think of the new Chaos Warriors size?
O&G battle march box (based on the rumours) is looking like an upgrade over the battalion, but still probably the weakest of the lot yet again.
>>98302678the scale seems fineIt seems the GW influencers must have gotten these boxes pretty late in the game, as no one seems to have painted any of these new Chaos models yet
Oh wow.Wasn't aware that the nu-Core box was already out.
>>98302685forgor pic*
>>98302585Wait, old CW actually fit on 25s? Always thought they were bigger
>>98302674They're not in the supplement >>98302677Makes sense
>>98302678That yellow jade warrior looks pretty neat
>>98302699You can't say that these days
It amazes me how allergic people here are to processing any information. >WaS tHiS BoX ReLeAsEd?>aRe We GeTtiNg ThiS AnD tHaT?Checking Warhammer Community takes literally 3 seconds, googling shit takes maybe 5 seconds. Why do people insist on remaining ignoramus and retarded? I get that r*dditards and Facebook AI drones sport this kind of behaviour but it only strikes me now how much the quality of users here degraded over years.
>>98302686yeah a lot fo the stores inthe UK have them but can't give them to poeple for another two weeks
>>98302704>Why do people insist on remaining ignoramus and retarded?maybe because people want a semblance of interaction more than they want to be informed?
>>98302704>people hereThis is just how people are nowadays anon, it's not exclusive to 4chan.
>>98302640They'll help. I bogged up an order, customer support said they couldn't fix it. Then his boss likely executed him as he forgot that customers are top priority to GW. They sent a second free order the same day.
>>98302704you wasted a few minutes of your life crying about this
>LGS had like 10 boxes and sold outAh well
>>98302715>maybe because people want a semblance of interactionWell if they wouldn't be no-games no-models they would start a valid conversation about the games this thread is being ran for.
>>98302777It's not a fomo box
>>98302678>every chaos warrior represented EXCEPT the ones that matter
>>98302820Erm excuse me chud no one cares about that old shit I only buy the finest new GW products.
>>98302704You type like a redditor
>>98302871You would know best.
>>98298737I think the 6e/AoS WoC are a good representation of that.
>>98300585Manliest Lannisterfag
Romanoff references removed in the updated rulebook map. Bye bye bozos
>>98302781I want it to be sold out until I no longer want it
>>98300946I saw this greentext. Obviously you tattle to the LGS owner so he can permab& the Packers fan and then CaviWipe the table so you can play against a respectable High Elf player.
>>98300026Jesus Christ you're a moron. The point is that they used to write the background as a coherent setting that *contained* wars, that made sense on its own terms, and they did that for quite a while after "it became a wargame" you disingenuous twerp. They - evidently mistakenly - expected the players to have the slightly below average IQ required to grasp something as simple as "the games you fight on the table are the exception not the norm". At some point they evidently got tired of explaining to fucking retards like you that just because you fight battles every week where Karl Franz fights a horde of daemons led by Archaon, that doesn't mean those things are commonplace in the backstory, and decided to just Flanderize the shit out of the setting so the Empire is a clockwork cogfop parody and "Lords have to levy an army to defend the realm again daemons" every other Thursday.Which is a bad thing, if you aren't like yourself the type of person who spends several hours a day staring into space and drooling while you muster up the intellectual firepower to remember to fart.
>>98300691Question for people who play TOW: is it written in the same soul-destroying ChatGPT-esque hyperverbosity as the 3.0 Heresy ruleset?
>>98302585You're probably looking at a Seraphon situation: if you angle them just right and assemble the unit like a puzzle with particular models in particular positions then you can do it. Have fun setting up your army or removing casualties though.
>>98302953Its not as bad but they really could have cleaned it up.
>all of the Battle March sets are spoiled in the preset list section of battle march book since High Elf, Bretonnian and Empire preset lists match what the previews shown.Oh here are the Orcs, they actually get 3 whole charactersBeastmemes get 2Dwarfs get 1 character but TWO (2) Gyrocopters
>>98302678I have to say, wtf is up with that one specific Rotsword who just randomly has one leg in his PJs. It's not even as if it's a Blightking situation where his leg has become monstrously deformed and can't fit the armour anymore, this lad looks like he just got woken up and rushed into battle half dressed.
>>98302964Beastmeme one is a solid 2x buy imo
>>98301525Based.>>98301561Yet another nogames tranny breaking out of his dying tranny game containment thread. Oh well, perfect opportunity to share building combat rules for unaware anons.General>buildings can be occupied by one unit up to 20 doods, infantry only>towers are limited to up to 10Shooting>distance (output or input) measured from outline of building itself, 360 degree view>defenders can draw LoS through the building and/or other models>up to half the defenders in the building can shoot>defenders in the building receiving shooting are behind full cover (-2 to hit)>templates hit every model in the building but on a 5+ instead of a 4+>cannonballs hitting buildings = D3 S4 AP-1 hits to the unit, then cannonball stopsMelee>both units in combat are in Skirmish formation>maximum 5 models in the fighting rank>defender does not FBIGO or Give Ground as normal and stays in place>if defender breaks and flees, they are auto-caught and slaughtered>fleeing outside of combat functions like 40gay Battle Shock, the unit shits itself in panic but stays put and rolls a LD check to Rally next turn
>>98302971it would be if I didnt see the old start collecting/vanguard box in my area. That shit puts this to shame. Not even a single minotaur at least. For shame.
Just so /tg/ knows, the Battle March rulebook includes the Battle March rules
>>98302987What a vile depressing grog
Wow, ebay splitters really have lost the plot these days huh. What's the fucking point of buying from you, splittershitter, if I could just buy the whole box and throw half of it plus all the rules and accessories in the bin and *still* pay less than you want for just the Chaos models? And who the fuck is dumb enough to pay them those prices? It's not even a FOMObox, it's the fucking edition starter. Fuck I miss when something like Assault on Black Reach meant you could build a whole Ork army for peanuts or get as many cheap Dreadnoughts as you liked, these days ebayers are pricing split boxes at fucking RRP.
>>98302990Hard on the bloke
>>98302964Why do you assume that these example lists will be the exact contents of the boxes? It's not a far-fetched assumption, I suppose, but it might be reading too much into things. Examples are examples. I'm just happy that these lists are just examples. Imagine if you were forced to play super-specific lists for these battle march games. Wouldn't that suck?
>>98302992I think the ebay sellers didnt get much of the boxes to begin with. I checked my usual go-tos and they didnt bother with the box. So expect demand to be a little dicey for a while.
>>98302992A lot of them do it to sell it to Australians.
>>98302996>Why do you assume that these example lists will be the exact contents of the boxes?Did you read the greentext part of the postThe example lists are exactly the same as the preview BM boxes of Empire, Brets and High Elves
Hordes of chaos is effectively how they're pushing chaos from now on seemingly.
>>98303013Right, yes, but who's to say the other lists/boxes won't break that norm?
>>98303018If that were the case there wouldn't be a split Beastmen Brayherds Battle March and a split Warriors of Chaos Battle March. The only " push " is that they share an army of infamy, which is great.
>>98303021It's pretty obvious that the example lists are made for new players buying those boxes so they don't have to think about how to kit out characters and units and just roll with that. So they match the contents. Also some units mentioned in Greenskin box were visible in the peview fighting empire as well
>>98303018Full bloody 180 on it. 4th-5th you got combined arms Chaos. 7th-8th you got the armies split. Now back to square one.
>>98303031>mentioned in Greenskin boxlist*
>>98303030There are no army shots of either of them individually. I expect it to be a gradual thing, stuff like the jabberslythe, cock, and other resin monsters might either get refreshed or become forever squatted because GW just cant continue selling resin models. Also if they do that, the range is going to be too small to justify being an army, so might as well soup em with warriors at that point.
>>98302947>"the games you fight on the table are the exception not the norm"I mean, if you understand that, why did you say the existence of center peices as options on the table is a bad thing.>and decided to just Flanderize the shit out of the setting so the Empire is a clockwork cogfop parody and "Lords have to levy an army to defend the realm again daemons" every other Thursday.That's bad, and despite putting a quote from me in that sentence, I never said it should be that way.
>>98303039This is a bad thing. Chaos shouldn't be entirely about Space M- I mean Warriors of Chaos
>>98303031Fair enough, you make a good argument.I will also admit that I am extremely sleep deprived and may have missed that initial part of the post.Happy 4th of July, anon.
>>98303057Fair, not American, but thanks for the good wishes, happy 4th of July to you too
>>98303034I am completely in favor of this. It makes more sense for this point in the timeline, too. Disparate combined arms warbands raiding the souf poofs. We need an elite WoC-only rapechad surge when we get to Kislev and Praag like 10 years from now, but until then, this is more fun.
>>98303039See>>98302384
>>98303061>not AmericanI'm so sorry.
>>98302964>O&GsProbably the worst box again. Slightly better than last time still.>DwarfsFucking gyromemes again..
>>98301677See>>98303064
>>98303076I think the Orc box is ok. Use wolf riders as living shields. Boars and chariot smash into one flank. Bsb in boyz and gob shaman magic support. 100% better than the batallion.
>>98302964Not even any black orcsI guess the boar boyz makes this better but its still laughably fucking dogshit. I am not using those wolf riders at all.
>>98302992Always weird to see shit like that. Lots of models you can buy straight from GW are being sold on secondary markets for double the price sometimes. Got to be people who just have them from years ago and haven't realised that the old ranges are back in stock or something.
>>98303071Would you like some flannel and denim with your denim and flannel?
>>98303089Arent wolfrider MSU'S used as screeners like chaos warhounds? Seems ok to me.
>>98303098They arent as needed in orc and goblins and impetuous just makes them even worse as screeners. Also the models are just dogshit.
>>98303104Well shit, i just got 5 second hand wolf riders. Oh well, i guess i didnt sign up to greens to win.
Is there any reason to buy picrel now that we’ve got new discount boxes?
>>98303120Your balls probably wont drop if you buy anything cathay related.
>>98303120If you want peasant archers + more rangedThe infantry in new sets is just jade guard
>>98303120There's 30 peasants in there and the astromancers aren't available in either kit
>>98303120if you want the shit in there, yes
>>98303120Yes if you don't want infinity jade warriors which will probably start getting cheap real soon
>>98303138>>98303138>>98303138
>>98303144big ol models
>>98302987lots of artwork of Warrior Priests in that bookmake me wonder if their getting a plastic model soonish
>>98302990what did he do anon
>>98302693They fit, but sorta awkwardly.
>>98302964What do the Tomb Kings get?
>>98303673NOTHING
>>98303071>LLM slopThat picture isn't American, it's Byteraeli. Go back to your containment thread, Rajneesh.
