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Kino Proxies Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>98297403

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/

>4e Books
gofile.io/d/JXpc9g

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread questions:
Thoughts on the StD proxies that went up for preorder today?
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I am fighting to hold back from consuming. My LGS still has 1 core set up for pre order but I don't need the chinese stuff so I am fighting the urge to consoooooooom. They are very sexy.
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>>98304432
It was funny once, now you're just being an annoying fag
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>>98304432

>TQ

Evolution of designs based on the original multipart chaos warriors from the late nineties. Tickles my nostalgia bone, but look like a chore to paint really. Happy for TOW players, AoS is the place where designers can be more creative.

Honestly I'd like to see GW try to use eastern armours as a basis for some miniatures, like the elephant barding in the picture.
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>>98304432
>tq
I dig it. They look like something off a heavy metal cover.
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>>98304432
They are so similar to AoS models that I can't tell them apart. I don't know if it even counts as proxy
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>TQ
They make me appreciate the slaves to darkness range more, if anything. The shields alone are better than…wooden (?) shields for full plated marines.
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>>98304453
Underworlds is a source of getting a small group of cool guys that act as a vertical slice of their faction. Everyone is a part of UW audience.
People who play Warcry and AoS and partially Old World would get it for cool proxies
People who dont engage with AoS or Fantasy, 40k fags, people who dont engage with any warhammer, or people who just want to play DnD with miniatures are part of their audience.
Also, "ugh, warcry is dead" is repeated every year, until in late august/early september theres suddenly a FAQ that brings in new units and balancing. Warcry is only dead in form of releasing proprietary warbands
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>>98304464

While I know that appealing to realism and historical stuff is a fools errand in the context of Warhammer, such large shields would be too unwieldy and heavy to be used if they were of metal. Metal shields existed historically, but they were small bucklers and dhals. Not pavise-sized.
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>my gofile in the OP
feels good man. i can share a lot more things if you people want. Anything missing from 4th ed is still not scanned and i cant help with that, but if you wanna check out 2nd or 3rd i gladly dump it on another gofile
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>>98304483
I don’t really care, the warped (?) shields are cool.
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>>98304483
My main issue with their shields is very boring shapes, 2004 wocs had simple but distinct shields, AoS ones have an interesting bend(?) to them that can catch your eye, those ones are just slabs of wood with metal rims
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>>98304490

Yeah it makes sense that a superhuman guy who only needs to kill and is unable to remove his armour would be able to carry such massive metal shield.
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>>98304487
You wouldn’t happen to be the collection anon who has all the Warcry stuff do you?
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>>98304502
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>>98304447
Sorry I didn’t want this thread to be as dead as the last one. Excuse me for not using a stale meme from Reddit.
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How do I paint gems?
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Todays marks 11 years since the very first /aosg/ was created.
What as your first AoS miniature?
For me, it was an idoneth reaver.
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>>98304538
It was dire wolves and the pre-etb death rattle skelly
Needless to say I never finished my soulblight army even though those were my first miniatures
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>>98304538
That should've been the OP image for this thread. OP failed the mission.
My first AoS mini was one of 10 Thralls. Couldn't tell you which one because I batch painted them.
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>>98304504
most of it. i am missing the 2nd Ed compendium but i should have everything else.
gofile.io/d/65EN90

>>98304538
Idoneth Soulrender was the first model i ever finished, but i started with Khorne first. man, i cant believe it has been 9 years for me already. i dont know how long i have been lurking in these threads either.
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>>98304537
I’ve never painted gems myself but I guess put a little bit of white paint on the corner of it to get some glare effect. I don’t know how to make it look shiny though.
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>>98304450
Agreed. Not just GW but fantasy in general could really stand to draw from more sources. It's got this problem with stuff just drawing more and more from previously extant fantasy and creating a clone degrading effect. Feels like if it isn't basic 1400s-1700s knights or nebulous time period samurai, fantasy is afraid to try anything with it. Even knights suffer from the fact that they refuse to do the various interesting things knights did with guns that were coming into existence at the same time as full plate armour. I would love more bronze age fantasy.

I was hoping cathay would lean into some more of the styles I like but it's eh. Not bad at all just 'eh'.
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>>98304432
Nigger stop this shit. Nobody wil buy your trash
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>>98304538
It was probably this guy, i did paint 5 bounders then, but im pretty sure this one was the first
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>>98304575
Aren't a lot of the TOW Cathay models based on Iron Pogoda armour?
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>>98304562
>gofile.io/d/65EN90
Aw hell yeah, anon. Thanks.
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>>98304575

Conquest made fantasy jeets. The miniatures are of good quality, but the problem is the wonky 38mm scale, which I believe happened in a same way as Spinal Tap and the Stonehenge.
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>>98304482
Don't get me wrong, I do like Warcry but I also like Underworlds. I was just being a jerk because of how the guy phrased his complaint.

In a ideal world both Underworlds and Warcry can flourish together. Both have different public and both have their purpose in making people engage in the hobby.

Underworlds had lots of people, who would never engage in warhammer, joining on gaming nights (mostly in 2019)(despite most of them gaming without painting the minis). As a entry way for the hobby it was great. Warcry in the other hand was a game that experienced players played, mostly for the quick games.
I just don't get the rivalry that Warcry players have with Underworlds.
>>98304537
In the 40k general there is a painting guide turrent (on the general) if that still works you should find how to do it under the eldar stuff.
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This art looks really out of place with early AOS.
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>>98304532
I know what you are
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>>98304606
theoretically yeah but idk, something about them is off to me
>>98304684
historical indian and hindu myth in general is quite cool honestly, it's a shame we'll not see it done without intense shitflinging (heh) from various groups no matter what for at least another 10 years
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>>98304722

Some of the armour depicted in the baburnama is pretty cool, wish there was some of this stuff available in plastic.
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When will they add SoA to the app?
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What Warcry book are the Kurnothi Aelves from?
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>>98304790
UW warbands usually got their rules in a white dwarf.
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>>98304559
Op is a shitposting consolewar tard
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>>98304809
I see, thanks.
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>>98304703
I really wish they kept Underworlds as an entry product, back when it costed penuts to buy both the edition box and the warbands. These days the warbands cost as much as the edition boxes, and edition boxes as much as Start Collections used to which does cause a massive casual drop off.
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Are there any pdfs yet of scans for 4th edition battletomes for the Sylvaneth, DOK, COS and/or HOS yet?
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>>98304537
very carefully
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>>98304825
nope, still MIA.
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>>98304831
You know the game is dead when people won't even pirate it.
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>>98304864
It's just become harder with these PDFs, mostly because of people being dumb and exposing them all over places like facebook.
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>>98304864
>every single BT but the NEWEST ones are available in a single link
>WaHa has all the meat of the BTs, none of the lore that is "optional" for use in actual play

>"nobody is pirating this stuff" - you, a retard
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So begins my attempt to "fix" blood hags.

Honestly, after getting a closer look at their sprue, I can tell this is going to be a massive pain in the ass. Pic related is one of the nicer bits from the sprue. It requires little scraping and sanding to smooth out the body suit (the neck and collar bone being the only real problem areas), and it's going to require little to no greenstuff to add details/definition where I need it (the ass is almost perfectly intact, so I just need to add to volume to create a better defined crack).
That being said, most bits are fucking awful. The body suits frequently crease and bunch in strange ways (shoulders, and again, necks and chests, are particularly bad), and a number of the models have weird gaps in the body suit that show bits of skin. The gaps, in particular, are bad because they need to be filled outright, sanded down (along with everything around them), or strategically worked around to create additional gaps where I want skin showing (which means working with very thin strings of greenstuff around the breasts and ass - which are busier than you'd think on some models).


>>98304537
Glazing.
The quick and dirty way is to block in the whole area with a your darkest colour, then put you're highest colour value at one end of the gem. As an example, let's say the high value goes at the bottom.
From there, blend from the highest value into the lowest one. Once you clean that up, you'll have a nice transition which you can cap off by putting a small bead of white around the gems darkest area.
There's plenty of step-by-step visuals you can find with a quick image search.
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>>98304919
>So begins my attempt to "fix" blood hags.
Godspeed anon. But I don't think this terrible sculpt deserves the effort.
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>>98304919
godspeed anon
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>>98304919
I feel you, I've tried to fix lelith but there was just no way. This looks like it might work after a lot of sanding and building the cheeks back up.
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>>98304919
Oh shit, you're actually doing it? Ganbatte anon, I'll look forward to seeing the finished thing
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>>98304914
We've got an uptick of shitters lately after a few nice weeks of relative quiet. I guess it really is summer.
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>>98304977
Yeah, it's been disappointing. This has always been a nice, if slow general.

I hope Ogors release soon. I'm (im)patiently waiting for my fat fucks to become a problem at the LGS again. I played a game of CoS and wasn't super thrilled with how it went, but I can't blame the army for a subpar list and user errors.
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>>98304977
TOW reveals always bring a bunch of shitters with them
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>>98304919
imspurised you arent doing the rips in their latex suits as exposed muscles/flesh under skin. it would have been much easier i think.
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>>98304923
>I don't think this terrible sculpt deserves the effort.
This is a spite and autism project for me. I did the same thing with a bunch of my witch elves.
DoK suffers from a lack of visual variety in its base units, and GW hates women having an ounce of sexuality, so I figured I may as well kill two birds with one stone.

I think the one thing I hate most about the blood hags, aside from them being a bitch to customize, is the fact that they're only a single build. One of the nice things about DoK is that almost every kit that isn't a character model is duel build. Just feels like a fucking waste not to give DoK another unit option for their roster that they so desperately need.

>>98304937
I posted one of the easiest ones to work on. There are, maybe two or three other models like that in the kit before the rest start becoming a nightmare of subdivided segments and obstructive details.

>>98304959
Might be waiting a while. I've prepped two so far for greenstuff, but I get the feeling I'll be pissed off by the five model mark. I'll probably take a break from a while and move back to painting witch elves, or move to taking a look at the khirerai I have and start figuring out how to "improve" them.
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>>98304538
It's either the slaughter priest that came with White Dwarf, wich is still on it's sprue somewhere. Or one of the basic Stormcast liberators, wich I turned into a statue for scenery.
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>>98304919
Good luck anon. You planning on altering the weapons?
Curious to see the end product.
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>>98305006
The fact the blood hags have literally no spare parts it totally unacceptable for a wargaming model kit in 2026 desu. Especially from le premium wargaming company. These were clearly a rushed out or otherwise somehow messed up concept.
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Post your faction's best picture
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>core set sold out in NA
FUCK I WAS BUSY AND FORGOT ABOUT THE PRE ORDER FUCK FIXK RUCK
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Whos dick i gotta suck for some mutated (nurgle) chaos warriors?
>Chosen just have few horny heads
>Forsaken died like 3 editions ago
>Blight kings turned from the best chaos kit to "me and the bros at the pool"
>Old world chaos is even more sterile
Is my only choice just kitbashing from 40Gay at this point?
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>>98305031
Damn I didn’t expect it to sell out. Impressive.
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>>98305040
What about rotswords?
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>>98305040
Did you forget the rotswords exist?
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>>98305009
Nothing special really, it's a GW 50x50 base, the smaller square bases may be Rackham comfontation but I made this at that time so who remembers by now, anyway, this dude has seen things.
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>>98305031
How long do restocks take? I kinda want to get one of these too for the proxies and I like the Cathy for painting. My LGS sold out too.
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>>98305040
didnt WHQ: Dogwater have some?
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>>98305031
it's a core set, it'll be back in stock eventually right?
....right?
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So now Mawtribes are on their way, when do you think we'll see the Khazalid?
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>>98305094
next year
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>>98305072
Yeah it’s not a FOMO box like it says it’s just temporarily sold out
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>>98305061
>>98305064
They are nice, but i meant more like warriors with tentacles/fucked up bellymaws/claws etc mutations
>>98305071
The blight templars are pretty good, but its just 3 monoposed guys (standalone kit never) and i crave for more...
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>>98305010
I did consider it, and I have some extra bits laying around, but I waiting to see how long the initial clean up for the models takes. If I'm not too pissed off by the end of it, I'll probably swap out two or three of the weapons (The blood hag with the banner is top of the list. The spear and a banner combo is ridiculously stupid).

>>98305015
>The fact the blood hags have literally no spare parts it totally unacceptable for a wargaming model kit
100% agree. If the individuals pieces of the model weren't segmented in absolutely insane and arbitrary ways, the entire unit could probably fit onto a single sprue - maybe one and a half - so it's not like there wasn't room for more.
It really should have been a duel build kit - like basically every other DoK kit. The fact that it isn't just screams that it was a rush job, or that GW was just cutting corners to save a dime.
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>Trying to find CoS lists to get an idea of what I should get
>Lady Bigcat, of course
>Steelhelms
>Cavaliers
>Steelhelms
>Cavaliers
>Steelhelms
>Cavaliers
>Fusiliers
hmm maybe I should just get what I think looks nice and not worry about viability.
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>>98305040
Forsaken have never been in aos iirc. At least not the models
Anyway surely you can get some blight kings from ebay. They fucking suck nowadays
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>>98305072
It's like Saturnine for HH, so not FOMO.
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>>98305119
>hmm maybe I should just get what I think looks nice and not worry about viability
the secret to this entire hobby right there
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>>98305094
Either late this year or early next year
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>>98305094
autumn,
GW weekly release schedule seems pretty clear-cut for the next 2 months
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>>98305135
Gate Gargants look cool and I like their ability to make people dip out and charge again, I don't mind steelhelms but I don't want to be running 40+ of them. Same with Cavaliers.
I think I'll run a Fusil Major with some fusiliers and cannons in one regiment and melee blenders in another. I own Zenestra so that's prayers I can do. Dawner's Triumph is free right? I can throw one in too.
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>>98305031
Still available here in yurop. I thought tow was generally more popular in europe as compared to the us, what gives? Or did they just fuck up stock?
>>98305094
Around november if I had to guess. Pre christmas slot.
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>>98305119
To be fair Cavaliers are are some of the nicest looking kits in the range, and steelhelms are not too shabby especially since it's fun to swap their heads and equipment.
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>>98305162
>Or did they just fuck up stock?
US has had constant stock issues for years, honestly. Everything is sourced from a single warehouse in like TN or whatever, so when they run out of stock the entire country is usually dry for months.
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>>98305162
would guess stock problems in the US or at least the US GW store
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>>98304439
Yeah, I don't think it holds value to split after how much Cathay was hyped previously. Everyone locally offering splits doesn't want Cathay kek
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>>98305197
Makes sense, everyone who wanted Cathay has had a ton of time to acquire said Cathay
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>>98304439
I hope Empire gets the next refresh, poopy diaper men next to chaoschads sculptmogging them is sad
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>>98305211
Rumor is that Tomb Kings and Wood Elves are next. In fact the rumor is that they will feature in a new versus box. Which is corroborated by rumours, lore setups in an AJ and most importantly that everyone faction got Battle March lists (and will get the boxes with the same lists) except tomb kings and woodies
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>>98305201
Yeah, with a discounted army box to boot. I think it holds niche appeal now that new WHF army is irrelevant next to StD and presumably more later
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>>98305211
Not this year at minimum for TOW and I think SDS would focus on getting rid of some of the metal charecter models first before the useable, if ugly plastic kits
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>>98305220
Fuck I hope so, updated tomb kings might just be the thing thar gets me into tow.
Then again, I always thought the same about exodites for 40k and those turned out to be insanely boring
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>>98305239
Next couple months for TOW are the rest of chaos, the battle march sets for the other armies. Then kings and elves
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>>98305247
That's just the rest of the year for TOW at this rate of releases they will be getting.
GW will probably focus on 40k for the most part
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>>98305243
I imagine that if you like the new plastic Liche Priest and Tomb Herald/Prince kits then you’ll like the TK refresh
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>>98305268
rip rostus
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So Ogors are supposed to be at least twice the height of a human.

So in range of 3 meters and plus. GW made them still too small.
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>>98305268
From where is that?
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>>98305308
Slaanesh battletome
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>>98305303
That'd put them at warhulk height, which is a bit too much imo.
But yes I'm surprised they didn't really scalecreep ogres, it actually would've been appropriate for once. I would have made them half a head taller I think.
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>>98304532
You people are so painfully unsubtle
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>>98305378
What do you mean “ you people “ ?
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>>98304432
>Thoughts on the StD proxies that went up for preorder today?
I will have to see them painted in other schemes before making a solid judgement, but I certainly like their helmets more than the AoS models'.
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>>98305303
>at least twice the height of a human.
no, they aren't
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>>98305031
>(Français)
All other languages are in stock. I guess France has a ToW scene.
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>>98305094
Assuming ogres are announced for pre order next week based on the art article being friday, I would guess seraphon or gargants in late august, the other in september, and then khazalids in october/november. Then we get into end of edition narrative and models, which we actually know nothing about. We have more hints about 5th/tlw units than EoE ones funnily enough.
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>>98304919

my goodness what a waste of time. This is going to come across as very embarrassing and desperate if u ever play these at a store anon

just get it printed if u have to
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>>98304432

>tq they look like overdesigned ai slop, that dragon is especially godawful
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>>98304919
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>>98304432
>tq
Them along with the recent marauders make me wanna start a WoC army for TOW, and have that be my army in that system
Not sure how I could incorporate em into my IJ army for AoS tho
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>>98304538
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>>98305029
I love this one
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What're (you)'re favorite and most hated armies? Aesthetically, rules, lore, or whatever.
>favorites
Seraphon and Soulblight
>most hated
Ossiarchs
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>>98306043
>favorite
gloomspite gitz
>most hated
also gloomspite gitz

no army has been such a joy to collect and paint and so fucking infuriating to play. every time they roll out new rules the bad moon is terrible and working against you in some new stupid way, manglers get worse every edition, skragrott loses casting bonuses every edition, gobapalooza loses spells every edition, netters get worse every edition, fantatics get worse every edition, wolfs cost a million dollars to collect 50 points of idiots on wheels

its really hard to be a fan of this army
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>>98306043
>Favourites
HH, OBR, Lumineth
>Hated
Behemat, Courts, KO
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>>98306043
>Favs:
Ogors
Cities
BoK

Least:
Nighthaunt (I just fight them too much)
SCE (chain activating units with Crit (Mortal) is fucking gay)
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>>98306043
>Favorites
Skaven, Disciples of Tzeentch, Gloomspite Gitz (Spiders only)
>Most hated
Helsmiths of Hashut (I disliked their reveal so much that it reignited my love for Clan Skryre), Slaves to Darkness (Hand over the Sphiranx already; you're not using it)
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>>98304432
>TQ
They're not proxies just more StD minis.

Proxies is stuff like using a can a drop pod. This is just using GW chaos infanty as chaos infantry.
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>>98306512
Not the actual figures, just uncoverted standins from another game.
Proxies.
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>>98306702
Gw minis for GW games isn't prozying They are just one of multiple legitimate "correct" options.
A chaos soldier with a sword is chaos soldier with a sword. The name of the game on th box doesn't matter. They're all interchangeable with warhammer.
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>>98305268
Wtf is going on here?
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>>98306043
>favourites
-Idoneth
-Gravelords
-Seraphon
-Gits
-honourable mention goes to new nurgle, I adore the minis but don't really care for their lore or playstyle
>least favourite
-Also idoneth because gw has no fucking clue what to do with the army
-obr (like the lore but the miniatures are kind of boring missed potential)
-(dis)honourable mention goes to darkoath specifically because the marauder kit pisses me off so much
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>>98306043
>favorite
KB followed by all of Gitz and FEC
>most hated
DoT - just enough good models to show potential they are wasting
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>>98306297
>Hated
>Courts
Don't see that everyday, what gives anon?
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>>98306950
I just don't like any of the models. Most armies have at least one that I like, but they just don't have any
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>>98306960
Fair enough. I'm not the biggest fan of the basic ghoul archetype myself but I really like some of the heroes and monsters.
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>>98306079
CoS Corps split bad me hopeful for Scourge of Aqshy but RIP
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>>98306792
The ICONIC characters you all know and love THE BLACKTALONS™ are helping Sylvaneth complete a ritual while they're being attacked by IDK(?)
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>>98306744
>the equivalent of using necrons for OBR isn't proxying
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>>98307067
Precisely. Yes.

Proxies are stuff thats 3rd party radically different or just not a miniature.
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>>98307067
They're an update of a kit AoS was using a few years ago. It is an alternative option, though Dwarfen Holds for Fyreslayers or Cathay for CoS would be proxies - albeit ones GW would tolerate at a Warhammer store unless your opponent cries or something
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>>98307026
Grug?
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>>98307123
ESL?
*had me hopeful
The Freeguild Command Corps was split into three warscrolls, similar to how the Gobbapalooza was in 2e. I was hopeful they might have split the Gobbapalooza similarly for SoA.
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>>98307035
Very clearly a slaanesh symbol
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Mancrusher, might be new art, idk
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>>98307319
Yup from the Scourge document
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>>98307330
Well duh that's where I grabbed it from
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>>98307319
I like it. Could still just be in the realm of artistic interpretation of the model, but gw really likes their art to stick close these days.
I guess we'll find out eventually. The stormcast bits will be the smoking gun.
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>>98307335
I'm not sure what you're confused about then
>might be idk
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Have any Sotrmcast fallen to Chaos or are they just "incorruptible"? Surely if they can purify a Chaos Warrior they themselves can fall to Chaos
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>>98307361
Whether or not this is the first instance of the art appearing in a publication. If it has appeared elsewhere and I either haven't seen it or simply can't remember it then I obviously wouldn't know it.
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>>98307427
I don't know if it's strictly impossible but I don't think it's happened in any of the stories we have.
Eternus is infused with the souls of some stormcast, I think that's as close as we've gotten. Aside from whatever the fuck is going on with neave maybe i have no clue
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>>98304502
Warhammer reflects the retarded logic of people who don't really know the history of armour.
The entire point of full plate was that it provided so much protection you didn't need the shield anymore. So you could carry heavier two handed weapons with greater reach and penetration power.
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>>98304537
Have you tried Google or YouTube where you can almost instantly find dozen soft videos on how to do that
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>>98305119
It's this easy
And if you can't make an army like this and have fun, the issue is your play group
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>>98305119
>Trying to find CoS lists to get an idea of what I should get
Buy what you want, retard?
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>>98307427
no stormcast has fallen to chaos, but it's not presented as them being utterly incorruptible, even though the pure azyr they use is anathema to chaos; they have members tasked with rooting out chaos corruption and their reforging process actively beats any hint of non-compliance out of them, but also the stormcasts that were previously chaos warriors are seen in a weird way by other stormcasts who somewhat expect them to return to their previous ways, especially if they're allowed to band together.
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>>98307522
>especially if they're allowed to band together.
It would be pretty funny if all the former Chaos warriors got together in their own warband and did stuff that nominally looked like Chaos for shits and giggles. Like making 8 pointed stars on their armor out of Sigmarite hammers, calling themselves a Chaos sounding warband name, and generally just trolling the other SCE around them. And any Chaos warriors they might be fighting.
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>>98307427
your Ionus? Bro???
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How do we fix them?
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>>98307546
They do band together but not for shit and giggles, it's out of shame, they want to be seen as worthy of trust and redemption and so they go the extra mile by doing extra quests.
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Why does this faction have so many glub shittos in it?
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>>98307570
>elite crab armour infantry
>seahorse light cavalry
>triton chariot
there you go
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>>98307611
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>>98307611
Vampire Lord Lutenants
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>>98307669
They're called leftenants, anon. GW is a Bri'ish company.
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>>98307611
Vampires have always been like that, it's obligatory when the only premise is "they've been around forever, tragically"
WHFB had it too
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>>98307570
the eels are too lame compared to proper scary deep sea fish
the namarti also look lame compared to helmeted dudes or fishmen
the shark is way too plain and normal for a high concept faction
the akhelians don't have enough of the cool idoneth armors

the eels, shark and namarti kits all have very conveniently separate heads for their units, so for all of them an upgrade sprue that contains optional bits to replace the heads CAN be made and SHOULD be made
the eels upgrade sprue can also get optional armoured right arms for the riders and pauldrons, capes and gutplates to improve them further
the result is that the faction is vastly improved and has a number of extra unit builds with the amount of sprues you would need for like one unit
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>>98307611
Unfortunately >>98307615 is right. They're all vamps from the same fucking dynasty because GW decided to base the whole faction identity off Cursed City. Potentially because of the weird situation that happened with it and they didn't want everything to be a loss. Hopefully we get some different characters and they leave Vyrkos alone going forward because man am I sick of the slavic vamps.
>>98307669
I'd rather get a million different vampires than Space Marine lieutenants at least.
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>>98307611
because it's not a faction built around its basic units
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>>98307689
>Hopefully we get some different characters and they leave Vyrkos alone going forward
unfortunately the next releases for soulblight are the units lost with cursed city: zombie ogres and furfags/reinvented vargheists dual kit
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>>98307689
>Potentially because of the weird situation that happened with it and they didn't want everything to be a loss
Yeah the rat guy and the thirsting blade lady were 100% going to be cursed city expansion before that got scrapped.
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>>98307696
Big if true. I'd be glad to see the zombie ogres get a proper kit in any case and the vargheist models are just awful looking. We need more big units and should have the option to raise anything as undead. But I still want more aesthetic variety.
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>>98307692
and yet it's still a horde faction - curious.
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>>98307737
only as much as an army is a gravel faction because the sand on the bases outnumbers everything else.
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I'm starting to build up a slight texture on his face and I feel like I'd be better off starting over. Think it's worth the risk of brushing a bit of IPA on the head to get some of the paint off to reduce the layers and texture or should I just continue on and finish the face?
I wish I'd realized at building that the gun would be somewhat in the way and cut the head off for separate painting.
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>>98307688
eels with kharibdyss onahole heads would be funny
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>>98307570
just give up and give the sea creatures four legs like the Merwyrm or wings
The magic sea shit is just stupid
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>>98307827
Deepmare and turtles can stay ofc
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>>98307689
I'd love to see more Lahmian stuff. Thing is, that's never going to happen because GW hates attractive women and insists upon a hard divide between AoS and Fantasy.
It would be cool seeing TK design elements being incorporated back into AoS as both an homage and a way to properly flesh out Neferata. It would also go along way to add another flavour to SBGL that isn't animal monster man or generic vampire.
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>>98307886
>I'd love to see more Lahmian stuff.
there you go
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>>98307886
Just put tomb kings on rounds desu
If any dynasty of sbgl were to get more attention I'd like for it to be the vengorians. Sbgl is a pretty big range but a bit lacking in monstrous stuff.
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>>98307900
I can't goon to this
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>>98307983
Skill issue
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>>98307900
>Neferata
Barely Lahmian, more Nagash than anything due to End Times going hard on the bone pope look
>Coven Throne
Von Carstein aesthetics
The other two are fine. Neffy needs a new model badly.
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>>98307900
Throne is very obviously not in line with the silly long hat aesthetic Nulamia has
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>>98307827
>give the sea creatures four legs
This is what Deepkin haters want. And they dare to call flying fish stupid
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>>98308032
>>Neferata
>Barely Lahmian
Then you don't have a problem with gw not doing lahmia stuff, you have a problem with having a weird headcanon about how lahmians should look
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>>98307570
>retcon namarti but keep them as soul vampires
>replace namarti with a normal deep sea elf infantry
>add akhelian heavy infantry
>add giant squid/nautilus artillery unit
>add gothizar harvester size crab monster unit
>maybe add two more cavalry units of spearfish or barracuda type monsters so it's not just eels
done, actual army that isn't just 80% heroes. It's a shame GW is fine letting factions languish half finished and then wonder why people aren't buying in.
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>>98308032
>Barely Lahmian, more Nagash than anything due to End Times going hard on the bone pope look
Huh? How is lahmian any different? They're the pseudo tomb king faction. That's just their aesthetic. Maybe more metallic instead of the weird smooth playmobil texture that the 8th edition stuff had, but in terms of themes it's pretty much the same.
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>>98308082
>>retcon namarti but keep them as soul vampires
>>replace namarti with a normal deep sea elf infantry
Wtf is even the point of keeping the vampire lore if you're going to remove the horror element in favour of generic bullshit?
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>>98308053
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>>98306043
>least favorite
nighthaunt by far. A million nearly identical ghost models, and there's not much you can do with paint jobs to make them stand out. As a faction they don't really make much sense either, how does a group of formless immaterial spirits have any kind of society? The other death factions make sense, even OBR makes sense with their bone tithe to grow their empire, but what the fuck would ghosts ever want?
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>>98308053
>he doesn't like fish with legs
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>>98308135
One of them is clearly swimming and other only looks aquatic because he's covered in barnacles. Scrape the "mer"wyrm's surface and he's just a mountain drake
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>>98308134
the point is to have models that don't look like shit frogfag
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no ogor this week it's 40k starter sets
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qqcxxrmm/sunday-preview-new-warhammer-40000-starter-sets-are-coming/
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>>98308159
>If you remove the scales, gills, fins, etc it's just a dragon!
Sure, I'm just saying there's a route. I would use the Dreadmare readily as a proxy horse or something, just presuming some comical wiggling + jumping movement like a weasel or something
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>>98308167
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>>98308167
There's always next week. Plus 'another big reveal for one of the factions seen at last week’s Big Summer Preview' might mean we'll see another Ogor unit
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>>98308180
If you remove the barnacles (that aren't even part of the creature) it's jut a dragon.
Learn toread retard
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>>98308167
>Starter set
>Introductory set
>START HERE miniatures + paint sets
>Getting started
what a mess
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>>98308167
>Here at Warhammer Community, we’re taking a close look at the new starter sets, and have another big reveal for one of the factions seen at last week’sBig Summer Preview. Come back tomorrow to find out what it is…
More ogres tomorrow too, nice.
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>>98308189
Pro painted
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>>98308202
Retard it has gills
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>>98308206
I'm sure AoS Fifth Edition will be the exact same
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>>98308202
>it's jut a dragon
with fins, gills, webbed feet and scales and teeth modelled after fish
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>>98308211
if you sand down the gills which aren't really part of the model it looks like a drake
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>>98308155
>but what the fuck would ghosts ever want?
Misery loves company.
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>>98308218
>teeth modelled after fish
I don't think you saw many fish
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>Ability called “You First I Insist”
>Doesn’t give the enemy strikes first anymore.
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>>98307110
Different kit for a different game. Keep coping.
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>>98308252
Bummer
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>>98308243
I don't think you can think in the first place
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>>98308333
>posting a pcture disproving his clai
Nice self-own.
Thin straigh needles are nothing like massive curved chunks the dragon has.
He's got generic monster teeth, nothing to do with fish
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>>98308243
when?
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>>98308272
The original TOW chaos warrior kit was THE AoS chaos warrior kit until 2023 so it has to be conceded that it was the same kit until the recent update
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>>98308329
This tome is kinda meh
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>>98308220
If you down the entire model and sculpt a drake it’s basically a drake.
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>>98308349
Plus it's not like there's much of a meaningful aesthetic difference between STD and Chaos Warriors. Chaos is Chaos until you start looking at the god specific armies.
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>>98308359
*sand down
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>>98308209
it's meant to be painted with the limited colors available dipshit
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>>98308349
No monopose chaos arriorswere out long before 2023.
That what the whole joke was about, but i guess you're too new to know this
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>>98308345
>can't wrap his head around the fact the proportions of things get altered in translations into a miniature form
yeah, you definitely can't think
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>>98308349
Irrelevant.
There's chaos warriors (aos) and they are not the same as the chaos warriors (tow)
Two different kits for two different games, it's proxying to field the kits for a different game as standins for the kits of the other.
If you find umbrage with this you must accept world eaters as valid chaos warriors because they're also a chaos warrior GW kit.
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>>98308349
Nta but akshually the ETB start collecting chaos warriors were the kit for aos since I wanna say ...2019?
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>>98308381
Faggot they look nothing like fish teeth. He's got generic big lizard teeth.
So unless you're some taxonnomy fag that unitonically "um actually"s all land
vertebrates as muscle finned fish you can shut your mouth full of teeth closer to the wyrm ones than that fish has
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>>98308396
>Faggot they look nothing like fish teeth.
except for the shape, placement, irregularity and orientation meant to evoke the wide mouth full of teeth of the anglerfish specifically.
you can't post an animal with a mouth closer to the merwyrm than that anglerfish.

you can't make a post where you prove that you can actually think.
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>>98308422
STOP ARGUING WITH THE RETARD
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>>98308427
Do either of them even collect IDK?
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>>98308053
In all fairness, they did say four legs
>>98308135
this whole autistic discussion aside the fact of the matter is that the merwyrm looks ugly as sin
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i think IDK should get akhelians surfing on manta ray with pole arms
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>>98308469
3 guys on mantas. Bright mirror of Tzaangors on discs
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>>98308422
>except for the shape
4 words in and you're already wrong. They are shaped nothing alike. Fish has needles, wyrm has daggers
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>>98308472
indeed.
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Still no complete scans of
>Blighted Wilds
>Sylvaneth
>Daughters of Khaine
>Cities of Sigmar
>Hedonites of Slaanesh
>General's Handbook 2025
>General's Handbook 2026
?
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>>98308604
Why didn't you scan them?
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>>98308612
I'm not a scanner.
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>>98308622
Neither am i
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>TOW models in the OP AGAIN
It's truly over
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>AoS slow grow had another dropout
>organizer had a mini crash out and shut down the event
Dummy could have just asked if anyone wanted to sub in from the LGS. But also quite grim.
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>>98308643
Yeh bro same faggot making the thread early to post a troll OP (with janny deleting non faggot responses for being 2nd) is the end of the world
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I don’t remember this much hubbub over TOW models being used in AoS when Cathay was shown and anons said they were gonna use em for CoS armies. Is it just the nature of chaos that others will be angsry contrarians? I suppose it would be a fluffy reason…
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>>98308715
Yoy realy have to stop trying to sell us your shit. Nobody likes door knockers
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>>98308643
It's just a shitposting throoder. Same guy as the last time probably.
>>98308715
Did many people even end up doing that? I know there's at least one anon here but other than that I haven't seen any online
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>>98308243
>Fish doesn't have teeth.
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>>98308781
>thing nobody has ever said
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>>98308753
>Did many people even end up doing that?
Like 1 guy posted about it. So not realy
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>>98308739
What am I supposedly selling?
>>98308753
I remember a few but I don’t pop in that often so I couldn’t tell you how many followed through. Admittedly I have two projects that I’ve said I wanted to do here and never got around to em so I can’t really knock em for that
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What desgin feature the Glob the Shitto's daughter have to look like a real name characer?
My bet is some kind of funny ornate harness on the rhino instead of a saddle
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>>98308863
A comically big gilded wineglass
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>>98308987
>she's got that milenial aunt vibe
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>>98308863
a big throne
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>about to get lapped by a half as old as /wfg/
Im not feeling so good bros
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>>98308374
To be fair the painter could use the brown+black like a wash (with lots of water) to make it better, but you are right that it is supposed to be painted with what came in the box (I thinking painting the eyes would be doable with the starter brush+paintings available)(to be honest they should have switched Corax White for Angrax Earthshade)(both kits with Abaddon Black + Corax White is shit imo, 10th ed had better color selection between kits, i think)
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>>98308206
AoS 4e had all of those except for START HERE minis(combat patrol/spearhead)+paintSets.

At least the Introductory Set have new sculpts, so we can expect AoS 5e to have exclusive Stormcasters.
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>>98309175
>At least the Introductory Set have new sculpts
How is this different from standard alt versions from starter sets?
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>>98309187
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1abmqefl/the-big-summer-preview-new-starter-sets-and-ready-painted-terrain/
>Since it’s not a new edition of Warhammer 40,000 without a new Space Marines Lieutenant, the Introductory Set includes one! In fact, all 12 of the miniatures – Space Marines Lieutenant, 5 Intercessors, Ork Nob, and 5 Boyz – are brand new and are available first in this Introductory Set.
>Ork players take note – this is also an easy way to add a rocket launcha and a big shoota into the Boyz squad from the Armageddon launch box.

IDK. From what they announced they will only be available in the Introductory set for a while and then be released in some other product (probably combat patrol or unit pack)
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>>98309225
Sounds exactly like Executioner eith a noos hero or spear only guttrippaz.
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>>98309225
>buy another kit to get your weapon options for the squad you already bought in the big box
GW milks 40k players with no shame at all. Wow lmao.
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>>98309249
How many big box units without full comand squads we got?
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>>98309259
I don’t know I don’t actually play AoS
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>>98308863
Didn't globb have a granite throne? Maybe that.
>>98309259
I think originally the ETB chaos knights came without the command sprue.
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>>98308863
Gem-encrusted teeth for her mount
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>>98309286
Then fuck off
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>>98309595
>Gem-encrusted teeth for her
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>>98309599
Are you sure? If you scare of a few more people this place will be slower than /hhg/ LMAO
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>>98309259
>full
I can only think of Ardboys because their original fluff was entirely based upon their WHF build options (Brutes didn't have anything but a champion so Ardboys were juxtaposed as military minded with their musicians and banners).
Nowadays it's common to see command dropped for elite units (Ogres) or reduced (Gluttons, Hags, Blightkings which lack a banner or musician).
Saurus elite cav and FEC kept them despite the 3 unit size but who knows the direction GW will take given how much Warcry style shit pumped out
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>>98309632
Not what i asked about. I means how many times GW made a box set only version of a kit that didn't include command options the warscroll has.
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>>98309609
Imagine spending your limited time like this
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>>98309609
that's still faster than /wfg/ despite all the secondaries in your dead thread lmao
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>>98309650
Aside from the etb chaos knights already mentioned I'm pretty sure the dominion KB gutrippaz come without the banner and muscian the full kit has. Other than that, I can't think of too many examples.
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>>98309683
They do, but weirdly the normal gutrippaz kit has two instrument options that can be built at the same time.
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>>98309680
Whatever you do anon DO not actually look at /wfg/s speed (twice as fast as this dead place)
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>>98309683
>gutrippaz
Dominion Boltboyz too. Other than that it's like just WHQ or Soul Wars/Mighty Battles
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>>98309714
>Rotbarkanon is a /wfg/fag
it's over
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>>98309683
Soul Wars Glavewraith didn't have a musician. Dominion Boltboyz come without the unit champion
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>>98309734
I was wondering where he went. I wonder if he liked the new Nurgle stuff.
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>he's actually mad nobody talks to him
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>>98309790
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Sorry guys I was too busy making fun of brazilians on /sp/ to post here, my bad
>>98309790
>>98309858
Had no idea these were even alternate sprues desu, always thought they just repackaged the etb ones. I think the vindictors are just the dominion guys for example.
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>>98310021
There's always a couple of starter kits that get a multipart version released later. The Annihilators from the SC side of Dominions, for example.
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>>98308604
Hey, I posted photos of the DoK book.
I'm not a scanner so feel like I've done my part
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:3
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>>98310161
Of course, but sometimes they don't bother. I think the kb hobgrots are one such example. I just never realised boltboyz did actually get a multipart release.
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>>98309650
The old Ogor Spearhead? The Mournfang came in a 2-man unit, but you need the reinforced size for the Banner and Musician.
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>>98310215
But that box still came with the sprues to do so right? I think that's what anon meant.
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>>98310377
I see, I see. Pretty sure it did, but all that shit is so interchangeable across the entire (old) range, I don't really recall.
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>>98310180
Oddly doglike
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>>98309858
In case someone doen't know what's missing. It's the flag
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Come up with a battleforce box (You) would buy for yourself on Xmas
>CoS
Tahlia Vedra
Gallants x2
Cavaliers
Call it Lioness' Crusaders
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>>98311148
As many Magmadroths as you can fit within the box budget
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>>98311067
on the one hand, its not really worth shelling out 2x-3x the cash for the flag and some very minor pose variation over the dominion ones

on the other, as someone who's playing 18 of them, after my first 9 dominion ones i really really started to want some pose variation so i did bite the bullet and shelled out for 3 full boxes to make the army look less repeaty. kruleboyz has an overall very small range, and also has some pretty bad mono-pose going on in their kits. mirebrute sloggoth and marshcrawla are all pretty much mono pose except for some minor head and rider variation, you dont get fully alternate poses like the gloomspites dankhold or rockguts. full kit gutrippas have some pose variation and hobgrots are actually decent with 2 poses per body across 10 unique bodies, but the dominion guts are mono pose, the gnashtoof is mono pose, the swampcalla, killaboss, and murknob are monopose

its crazy how they did so few kits and still couldnt give them more posability and options. one of the most frustrating parts about collecting the army
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>>98311194
All I want is a wave with all the pushfit models given multiparts with variations and optional trinkets
And gnashtooth cavalry
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>>98311194
Slogg's alt build rotates his focus to the other side and riders changing from long sticks to nothing is a significant change imo
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>>98311209
The army would benefit more by having kits for different things than kits for the same things in a slightly different pose
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>>98311239
Pushfits in general suck and leave large gaps
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>>98311239
True but they barely have "kits for different things" in the first place.
They suffer from idoneth syndrome where they have like 2 infantry options and then about 10 monsters. They don't even have cavalry, the poor fucks.
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>>98311252
Also important to note that fucking everything is a hero, which sucks with battalions this edition. THe only one of their monsters that isn't a hero is the Marshcrawla, and that just kind of isn't good. It's not terrible, but it doesn't really do anything that KB needs. I want my damn Mire drakes and gnashtoof cavalry. A murknob unit, and one more hobgrot unit would be great, but I won't be greedy.
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>>98311214
yeah idk, if im gonna be paying $50+ for a single troggoth model i think i'd rather have pose variation like the dankhold than the sloggoth. i dont think its a big ask when the kit only comes with one guy and it costs as much as a tank
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>>98311267
Dankhold is technically 2 different units, not builds for 1
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>>98311267
the sloggoth would look properly different once you shift the placement of the goblins on top, the colour of the troll and use the new head pose to view the model from a different angle
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>>98311267
They shoulda put a ballista in the howdah or something at least
But to be fair I think the poseability on the sloggoth is somewhat limited due to the crawling pose. The danhold looks different mostly due to going from 2 handed to 1 handed weapon, which of course the sloggoth can do. They'd have to seriously alter the howdah instead.
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>>98311268
sure but also i kind of dont care. the kits are about the same size, big box price single model medium size monsters. the mirebrute is the same way, almost 100% mono pose. no reason they couldnt have fit a secon arm pose or some additional club alternatives in there.

when you're spending that much money for a single model box, its okay to expect more than just a slight head turn or a single alternate rider weapon. we used to get stuff like the mortarchs with 3 distinct riders and creature heads and armor or the treelord kit which built 2 different types of treelord and the spirit of durthu.

the shrinkflation when it comes to sprue count, size, and additional bits is very real.
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>>98311283
>the kits are about the same size
Thought Dank is much bigger
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>>98311283
It's a bit of a crapshoot if they decide to make alt-builds these dats. Chorfs famously had a lot of them and it was quite nice, really helped bulk out the range. But then there's stuff like CoS where I believe only the cogfort has an alternate scroll out of all their kits. No generic marshal on manticore is really annoying, or say a generic light wizard on heliomorph instead of zonn.
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>>98311296
maybe a bit, but all the kruleboyz creatures have the same problem and the mirebrute and sluderaker have absolutely no excuse
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>>98311194
Going from dominion gutrippaz to normal gutrippaz is a great leap forward. If I need another box I will buy normal every time
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>>98311319
Holy fuck the killaboss on the gnashtoof is fucking enormous lol is that supposed to be the case?
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>>98311335
He just looks bigger
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>>98311335
Yes, the model is huge
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>>98311335
yeah. orruk bosses are physically larger, its the same between kruleboyz, ironjawz and 40k orks, the larger an ork gets the more in charge he is
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>>98311148
DoK I have multiples of everything so there's nothing I would buy.
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>>98311335
The vulcha boss is the same. I've seen people try to convert killsbosses on foot from them but on Gutrippaz legs it looks terrible
Minicompare is pure slop though, rely on anything else tbhon
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>>98311403
*killaboss on foot legs
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>>98311404
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>>98311408
the killaboss she tells you not to worry about
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>>98311418
When i tried to proxy the promo guy as a boss he needed a whole tactical diorama to match the height
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>>98311354
Yeah I guess it makes sense, but the kb's proportions make it look more extreme
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>>98311449
for a moment I thought you gave the bird a smoke
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>>98311449
He's a Gutrippaz boss not a Killaboss tbf
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>>98311418
>>98311319
it being so big makes it worse
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>most AoS concept army in Destruction
>completely shafted
I'm so envious but happy for FECbros, Bonesplitterz should've gotten the same treatment
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Place your bets, will we get another Mawtribes reveal today and if so what will it be
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>>98311520
I don't think we have anything other than the big monster and the man-eater special character left to show
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>>98311520
Underworlds Warband
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>>98311408
I don't know, he looks like he have those Krule proportions. Can you show him next to a normal Killaboss on foot?
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>>98311533
Not my pics but
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>>98311524
Trust the plan, there's be a full gnoblar refresh with a named character
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>>98311539
That would be lame.
gnoblars only work when they interact with the ogres, and all ogres they've shown are lacking the gnoblars, if they're a separate faction within the faction then might as well put them in gitmob instead of ogres, there's not even the gameplay necessity for them that there was in fantasy either.
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>>98311536
I had to check my own models. He is a bit bigger but also his armor is way more grand, so it make him look wider than he is
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Gnoblars hardly even fit into the current goblinoid lore. I'm glad they'll be gone
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>>98311515
i firmly disagree
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>>98311531
Speaking of, I just realised we didn't get a new CoS one. They still only have the glup shitto pre-3e warbands
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>>98311573
You have no right to stand on anything fimirly
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>>98311577
CoS band was firmly in 3e
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>>98311592
i have every right. i own the army
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>>98311603
What's that to the left of the Troggboss?
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I'm bored at work, you can drop the monday reveal GW intern guy
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>>98311619
the warchanter?
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>>98311627
Cut him some slack, he's still nursing his hangover after the match last night
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>>98311632
Sorry, to the right, behind the rider
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>>98311636
i dont have a great picture of him and i dont feel like digging him out of storage so this will have to do for now. this was only about 1/3 of the way through painting, he doesnt even have a shade wash yet

its a weirdnob shaman i converted from an old trollkin model. was trying to go for gul'dan. then the KB came out with what is basically a better gul'dan shaman model and i kinda lost steam on him lol. he's on the left here in this picture
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>>98311654
Pretty good, thanks
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>>98311627
Last week it was pretty late I think, at like 4 or 5 bongtime
We had 40k reveals first
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>>98311593
I meant pre their redesign in third. Though I think the flagellant guys came out a couple months later actually, but they still look nothing like nuCoS.
Pretty much every army has a warband that's just like a few alt sculpts for some basic units + a leader. Something like that.
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>>98311910
Nah, they fit right in with their lightning rods. They just don't have that comet insignia
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>>98311910
>>98311922
Speakign off, theyshould bring back Patter Filus as a generic CoS priest
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>>98311938
He will be more fitting as a flaggelant hero/champion proxy, when they come
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>>98311938
the warband is a bit too specific to become a generic thing, but it definitely should be available, what's the point of detailing multiple sigmarite cults, and even including their symbols in the decal sheet, if the only thing that's going to be kept going forward is the nowheels bitch?
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>>98311962
He's way too big to be a normie champion proxy
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Looking to start my second army, and Tzeentch caught my eye. But am hesitant, because I dislike the horrors. Is it viable to play Tzeentch, without those little bastards?
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>>98312011
Sure, you got plenty of options
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Since we are getting both Ogors and FS updates, who will be in the most dire need of one? And I don't mean "who needs new wave?", just who needs their existing units updated? I would say DoT but it goes to the demons in general>>98312028
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>>98312058
Khorne, they look like shit
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>>98312058
not chaos that's for sure. They don't need it. Armies that need waves the most

>Seraphon
>Nighthaunt
>Idoneth
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>>98312058
the next oldest kits left in the game are dryads, skinks and plague monks, but of the three armies only lizardmen have some other kits that may warrant an update (guards, stegadon), and even then, it's not really a burning necessity, especially with tow not having much haste in taking back the legacy factions yet

I'd argue khorne is the army with the ugliest and most unnaturally stiff posed basic troops, and also relatively old by aos standards, including some pre-aos models, even if their demons have aged far better than the truly abhorrent horrors
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>>98312058
I'd say tzeentch or khorne. Tzeentch has a lot of old shit, khorne is newer but it is all in that weird end times / launch aos style that they're phasing outm
Oh and fec should get their basic ghouls and horrors looked at
>>98312075
Read a bit more anon
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You'd think we'd get at least one bad sun helmet in Gitmob
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>>98312165
You'd think we'd get at least one new Spiderfang model made for this game.
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>>98312172
Yep, could've been like BoC with a whole new model
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>>98312172
we did
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>>98312191
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>>98312215
Snufflers are so ugly man I've never seen anyone use any of their heads for kitbashed bosses or anything
What a flop
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>>98312075
both Seraphon and Nighthaunt need refreshes. Temple gaurd are ancient, as are the stegadons and skinks. Nighthaunt models are getting old and also look very same-ey so they could go back to the drawing board as to how to make them a little more distinct from one another.
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>>98312228
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>>98312228
I hate snufflers so much
If they ever redo stabbas I hope their faces look nothing like that
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>>98312215
Silver Tower grots, my beloved. Most likely the worst AoS unit
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>>98312058
I fully understand there are still end times units or older units that need refreshing, HOWEVER, the gore gruntaz suck to paint and I humbly request a refresh of them
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>>98312230
>nighthaunt models are getting old
Bro what? They don't need a refresh, all they need is a couple of units that do something else besides being bedsheets with [weapon]. They lack visual diversity, it's not a problem with the exisiting sculpts. Give them their haunted suits of armour already.
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NEW TUB O' LARD

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/ufqekjyz/ogor-mawtribes-reveal-grell-firefist-brings-a-cannon-to-a-knife-fight/
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>>98312284
Gore Gruntas look worse than TOW Boarboys, they're so static and the awkward squat tiny leg design just looks weird
Next to the maw grunta it's really jarring
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>>98312317
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>>98312317
Big lady.
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>>98312317
>handles explosives
>is missing a hand
where's the anon making american themed edits for the ogres? we have the 4th of july mascot!
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>>98312317
Really lame for a named maneater. I would just presume they're a regular ass leadbelcher
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>>98312284
That's bad. The rider looks great, the pose is fine but the mount looks worse than old mournfangs.
But worry not, deathrattle skeletons got update, so there is a chance
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>>98312317
what if leadbelchers aren't gone forever but are getting fused with maneaters?
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>>98312317
how does she light that without help?
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>>98312317
She's beautiful
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>>98312317
I will once again point out that the skin texturing is really cool and makes it look like the ogors have thick hides.
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>>98312317
So next week will be another ogor reveal then, since they still haven't shown the big monster model.
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>>98312317
Boole pitched this as a character whose whole side was rebuilt as a cannon, meanwhile it's just a hand-hook.
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>>98312317
looks like an appalachian woman instead of mongolian
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>>98312367
They confirm it in the article
>If you’re hungry for more Ogor Mawtribes reveals make sure you come back next Monday
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>>98312368
>Boole pitched this as a character whose whole side was rebuilt as a cannon
no, he didn't
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>>98312317
>No shoot in combat
I'll accept it if we get a RoR with her + a unit of gluttons and maybe an Ironblaster
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>>98312321
>>98312354
For me it’s the face of the grunta (it just looks off to me) and all the greebly bits that aren’t super well defined on the model or are hard to reach with a brush. The head armor can fix the face though, unfortunately you only get one per kit
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>>98312360
With her other hand. The gnoblars are gone
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>>98312360
good question
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>>98312387
Wait, the fuse is short and all the way in the back. I don't know how that would work. Maybe she creates a spark by striking the cannon (there is a scratch near the fuse) and aims before it fires
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>>98312317
CORR
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>>98312384
Wasn't she supposed to get other meanetears?
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>>98312382
Shut the fuck up
>Then, the Maneaters too were cast out from the Big Mawtribe. Yet unlike the Leadbelchers, a grizzled and formidable veteran rose as their leader—a legendary Maneater who had fought under Tahlia, her entire right half rebuilt into a colossal artillery piece!
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>>98312317
Absolutely devoid of style
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>>98312427
That's accurate
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>>98312448
Her "entire right half" clearly isn't "rebuilt into a massive artillery piece". She's holding a cannon like every other leadbelcher.
Also
>no that's not what he said
>okay but it is accurate
>...
Bro come on what's the point
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>he listens to longposts by mr. Chaos Trolls and Slaangor hero
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>>98312317
I'm gonna be honest this feels a bit bland, could stand to have some sort of distinctive feature.
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>>98312435
Come on, that blade and that mortar are great. She even has half of Golgfag's jaw trophy on that cannon
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>>98312469
Slaangor hero was a different guy. Sadly, because he also """"leaked"""" stuff like new gits kits and refreshed saurus guard in the end of edition campaign.
His cope was that he only saw the sprue and it kind of looked like a slaangor on there.
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>>98312427
So? He saw a picture and presumed. I'm guessing he just happened to randomly guess everything was 100% correct aside from this which he also randomly guessed half right
I don't trust him
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>>98312485

>>98312469
The more I see new shit get released the more confident I feel about TLW being a load of rubbish misconstrued by shmucks who have no idea what the fuck they're talking about overhyping the biggest nothingburger of the century.
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>>98312485
That's tge thing. Leakers are usually janitors who see random box in the packing room
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>>98312469
Slaangor hero was probably that Hysteria dude but I don't remember the Chaos Trolls? Cankerborn?
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>>98312481
She's great but I wouldn't consider her a good example of a maneater
Hopefully she's a RoR mercenary unit so conversions are possible
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>>98312464
She has metal hook instead of a hand to bear he cannon
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>>98312469
they do look like chaos trolls tbf
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>>98312492
Yes. Darkwater leaks included chaos trolls and Canks are the closest thing to thet rumour.
So he saw some shit and added a story to it
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>>98312500
>So he saw some shit and added a story to it

I wish he'd stop doing that
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>>98312317
>anything that could even slightly be considered as ammunition is shoved into Grell's pilfered cannon
>>pilfered cannon
Interesting implications, since it shares the chinese gut motif as some of the other new stuff like Reddit's pot or some gutplates.
Is the implication that they're stealing this shit from some other civilization then? Do they have them making this stuff for them in exchange for not being eaten?
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>said we'd get new Frost Sabres but we actually got Sabrefangs
imagine genuinely giving rumoursloppa attention
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>>98312363
Can ogres reach their own assholes to wipe? The model makes me think they cant
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>>98312513
Imagin the smell
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>>98312317
Honestly, don't love this model. Could have been done better, I think. Maneaters should be pure swag and personality, and this chick definitely isn't that.
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>>98312427
Boole is apparently just some guy in printing, who just gets to look at box arts
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>>98312317
Awesome miniature and I hope they won't kill off leadbelchers as a unit. Gonna get her in any case and give her a proper mustache.
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>>98312317
I like her but I echo the sentiment that she doesn't look like she has much of a culture she's become a weeb for. But at least I can use the rules for a conversion anyway
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>>98312513
They do an all liquid diet anon.

https://youtu.be/Vt7hIk_jZww?si=jGH54ZDXRI_1_jZq&t=78
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>>98312506
Most likely she took the canon, and embossed the gut motiff later
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>>98312317
Just like the tyrant the head sculpt on this is really underwhelming
She's an ogre merc, at least put a hat on her
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>>98312508
Only good leaker is one that has pics. Reformation was that guy in this case. Wish they were a bit better, though.
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>>98312360
>>98312389
The best mental image I can conjure is her scraping the hook against the cannon to make sparks, and then aiming the thing.
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>>98312536
>stretched out the image vertically making us believe their proportions were lanky like the warhulk when in fact they're chubbier than ever before
Cheeky
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>>98312536
I'm still sad at how far off I was on krixxit.
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>>98312527
The armor on the shoulders with the purple of the fabric around her gut and the hairstyle made me think she might be Hedonites aligned? But theres jothing else to it
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>>98312519
He got the Darkwater hero names right so he can read battletomes/product specifics too
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>>98312536
Dude, it was an alt account, it was always boole.
Why do you think this guy appeared the moment boole had a spergout and boole reappeared as soon as this guy left?
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>>98312363
Very detailed, but less than sum of its parts.
She hetter have kick ass lore, cause the sculpt doesn't carry her as a named character
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>>98312545
I was thinking Helsmiths, as they also rock the purple cloth and bronze armour plus plenty of gunpowder
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has boole ever been right?
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>>98312550
I will have to agree, she just looks like a Leadbelcher, not like a superleadbelcher boss
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>>98312519
Yeah his whole GW insider schtick was pure LARP. He's a production peeker like 90% of leakers. Also he's been quiet long enough I suspect they got him.
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>>98312545
There's definitely something asian influenced in there, but I'd say more far east than middle east.
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>>98312527
I think they're slightly redoing what maneaters are. Instead of becoming the larper merc subfaction, they will be the more openminded, gunpowder aligned merc subfaction.
She's not really a maneater character, more a leadbelcher character. I do think we'll be seeing the latter return as maneater unit, maybe alongside some melee ones.
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>>98312561
He's never been particularly wrong.
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>>98312561
He calls nams. Which is what is writen on boxes.
Hance the theory he hangs out in the warehouse or some shit, cause he definetly doesn't work on the models themselves if he fails every time a model looks weird
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>>98312576
Darkwater hero names aren't on the box, they're in the booklet and cards which he would've had to read. If he can read an instruction book in WHQ idk why it's unbelievable he can read the same shit in an army set
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>>98312561
He's right in broad strokes, but he gets the details wrong often enough to not take his word religiously.
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So how much longer til pre-orders go live? If they're doing reveals every week, I won't see pre-orders til the end of July.
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>>98312584
Aren't all the models listed on the back of the box showing thr content?
Besids i don't think he actually said names of Darkwatr given he said the named witch is a "Nurgle Realmgore Ritualist"
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>>98312600
Original leak said Ogres in Sept-ish, so I would not be surprised if the box doesn't go up before August
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>>98312601
No. The only place you'd find out about the cogfort AoR options or Duardin/Aelves is the battletome or warscroll cards too
I believe he's in printing but he can read the material evidently
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>>98312600
Next week will probably be an SDS game, either HH or Bloodbowl then it will be Orks for 40k the week after
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>>98312561
he's never been right but got some coincidental details anyone could guess
cogfort was a given
ive been saying ogre refresh for years
he said there'd be halflings in cos and a robot ogre but there you go lies the lot of it turns out
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>>98312607
>I won't get the box til September
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>>98312621
>he's never been right
can you remind me again what are the chances of guessing that the next warhammer quest was going to be an aos one with nurgle called darkwater, accompanied by an exhaustive list of the nurgle models in it? including some names?

or is that all to disregard because he mistook the big brutish things for trolls instead of brand new kinds of demons?
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>>98312506
>cannons pilfered from chinese-coded gunpowder culture
>evil looking snake tattoo
Mhmmmm....Karujin bros...our time is almost here....
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>Disabled woman deprived of her foreign careworker helpers due to Sigmar's deportation policies
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>>98312506
>Is the implication that they're stealing this shit from some other civilization then?
no, she stole the cannon and then decorated it in ogre fashion
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>>98312633
>chances of guessing that the next warhammer quest was going to be an aos one
50% its either AoS or 40k
>with nurgle
Id give it 50%, they alreaeady did death and tzeentch, the laternatives are Destruction (wtf are you gonna quest in? A giant mountine of ork shit?), Ossiarch one isnt happening as its too specific to AoS, and they still have 3 chaos gods, of which one wouldnt bother with the type of shit Wahaquests usually take place int (Khorne)
>called darkwater
Ill have to give you that
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>>98312637
I would love for them to expand the Cathay Mercenary Ogre range. They look amazing, and also give us Ogres in TOW that have adapted to other cultures, Empire Ogres, Dwarf ogres etc.
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>>98312632
I don't think it'll take quite that long, at least for the box. They're doing the art article this friday, after that they'll reveal the last model for the ogres on monday. Good chance they announce the box pre-order this or next sunday.
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>>98312647
The scale is surely different between TOW and AoS now
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>>98312611
He definitely has some access to printed material, but not everything, which is why he has full names and backstories for some models and blind guesses based on probably blurry images for others. Also he seems kinda retarded at describing models in general.
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>>98312647
The Empire ogres technically already exist, but i know you mean new Imperial ogres
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>>98312317
The best thing to come of this is the confirmation that leadbelchers and maneaters aren't dead.
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>>98312011
>. Is it viable to play Tzeentch, without those little bastards?

sort of. it depends on any given iteration of balance patch or battletome, but that said horrors are pretty much their only option for tarpitting, holding objectives, and providing a unit that doesnt just instantly evaporate. so it can be done but it will be at a significant disadvantage, and a lot of their heroes are based around horrors too.

kinda like trying to run gloomspite without grots or skaven without clanrats. you can do it, but you'll have very big weaknesses you cant fill without them
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>>98312781
considering this is the worst model of the faction it might not be good news
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>>98312317
looks good, now if i can just get a whole unit of leadbelchers with that ranged profile.....
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>>98312791
I'm still not the biggest fan of John Cauldron, if I wind up getting him (mostly because a giant ward bubble for these fucks seems busted) I'd do some heavy kitbash work on him.
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>>98312791
Yea the model is a dog's dinner but at least the concepts live on
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>>98312802
It's that big circular base being such a waste of space

Ideally you'd have it be an oval with his two minions having their own separate bases

I might even get the Gorger pack and mount them up around the cauldron just for flavour because the one homie by himself is awkward as fuck
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>>98312821
This would be so much better holy shit.
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>>98312802
Reddit pulling himself is gay.
The problem with the model are the two guys on the side, not the pulling mutant
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>>98312853
The pulling gorger is pretty bland though but you're not wrong.
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>>98312821
im sure you could actually just do this if you get the spare bases. this isnt 40k, no ones gonna have an autistic shit fit if your guy is on a big oval instead of a big round
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>>98312802
>>98312821
Do we have an explanation for why he's wearing a gutplate?
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>>98312821
it's just not a well thought-out concept and looks like they just had to fit several things into one kit and called it a day. Same vibe as that weird crocodile dragon thing for TK. You could probably salvage it, but the price is going to be inflated due to all the random shit, so it's probably not worth the hassle.
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>>98312903
cuz he's an ogor

>>98312872
You're not wrong, worst case scenario I just do the multi base thing and then just get a little clear plastic circle to have em stand on.
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is AoS allowed to use the names of the chaos gods? TOW isn't, so I'm curious what they are in AoS
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>>98312903
The old lore is now guidelines, not rules.
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>>98312915
go read the names of the chaos armies for aos
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>>98312940
what's the latest publication to mention them
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>>98312949
I think the battletome came out like a week ago?
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>>98312949
https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_aos_battle_profiles-2wsrrn6poc-wb3lenb8nn.pdf
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>>98312957
huh interesting
TOW got new names for the four in the latest core book to prevent overlap I guess but 40k and AoS sharing must be fine
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>>98312970
anon what the fuck are you talking about
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>>98312970
Anon, the gods didn't get "renamed" to prevent overlap, TOW has decided that its chaos is norscan focused and with little direct demonic contact yet, so they stick to the norscan names instead of the actual names.

It's like trying to say that GW introducing various interpretations of the gods in warcry was due to some kind of internal policy.
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>>98312982
TOW uses picrel instead of Nurgle, Khorne, etc
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>>98313015
Oh yeah that's just Norsca stuff, read any of the old fantasy books and they usually have nicknames for all the chaos gods since they don't really know what the fuck the deal with them is. Actual chaos warriors know, but norscans just kinda see them as the tribal gods of the region.

They did this shit in total war with the norsca faction too (I mostly remember since I got the nurgle one and it was the worst fuckin' shit)
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>>98313015
Insane secondary selfreport
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>>98313015
>fell raptor
>not the raven god

utter tripe
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>>98313039
it was too redundant with the crow
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>>98313015
I don't enjoy being the guy who tells people to shut up and read more, but sometimes it's the only good advice to give an anon.
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So back after a little sabatical, added the remaining ghouls to the fort now just need to do touchups and dump a large amount of blood so it kinda drips down the side like snot.
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>>98313038
>>98313084
I know they're the chaos gods, but they're named differently. I was just curious if AoS had their own names
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>>98313201
Realy cool. Does the UW Duke wear a cook/chef hat?
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>>98313207
It's more hats I stole from an old empire kit, I think it's supposed to be like a fancy beret. But ye it does look like a little chef hat doesn't it?
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>>98313201
Looks fucking great
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>>98313201
It's looking fantastic bro, it's been really cool watching this come together over the weeks
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>>98313023
Anon, the core book takes the third person perspective to objectively precisely explain the origin of the universe and all the races.
TOW uses Norsca appropriations because it is evidently barred from using the official names.
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>>98313223
>because it is evidently barred from using the official names

So like the same shit they did to Malekith?
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>>98313223
The Marks are still god-based though
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>>98311577
Yeah, underworlds is kind of forgotten, gamesworkshop just don't want to admit that new edition is shit and is letting it slowly die.

Honestly just a crazy lord going on a quest with a few elite knights would be a cool warband.
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>>98313273
leaks said it's one of the best selling lines and is very much alive
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Fa/tg/uys, I’m unsure if I should pick up the Mortisan elite or Kavalos Vanguard spearhead, to start my Bonereaper army.
Any advice?
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>>98313297
It is but people are not playing it as much as 1e pre covid. It is close to after covid numbers (and people are also buying some of the rereleased warbands to play 1e).
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>>98313350
Elite has models that more frequnely were strong. And is cooler imo
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>>98313362
>>98313362
>>98313362
Freshly baked new
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>>98313364
Uniroonically kill yourself
>>98313372
>>98313372
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>>98313376
jesus christ chill out schizo
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>>98313381
Nta but you're not fooling anyone
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>>98313398
I don't believe you're NTA to be frank with you.
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>jannies deleted the actual new thread but kept the bait one up
Lmaooo not even trying to hide it
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>>98313443
it's literally only bait to schizos
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>>98313462
Making a new thread extreamly early to derauil the discussion abotu the actual news is already enough
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So is this still the current thread?



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