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Take to the Skies Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>98304432

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/

>4e Books
gofile.io/d/JXpc9g

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread questions:
What changes would you like to see to the gameplay of AoS in the next edition? What don't you like about 4th compared to previous editions?
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TQ: i want the flavor back. Any more focus on the retarded comp slop will kill the game soon.
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Janny tranny thread
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>>98313425
how is 40k looking for that? The new edition of 40k will foreshadow 5th edition
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>>98313431
If your biggest problem is the thread image take your meds.
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>>98313437
it's AoS art?
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>>98313437
>ignores the current new to burry it with unrelated nonsen
>make the thread ON PAGE FUCKIGN 7
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>>98313441
unfortunately yes
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>>98313448
I didn't make the thread dawg, but instantly dropping a new one and shitting your pants because someone used a brown character is stupid.

But yeah reasonably ogor gun lady should have been thread pic.
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>>98313362
>TQ
I don’t get why they wouldn’t just add/change the Soggy/Spicy army options and then fold them into the main book next edition. Some pages have straight up empty space that could be filled with those boxes of options. So I hope it’s that, tweaking or changing the borrowed power options we had/have for a season and then making them a part of the battle tome to offer more options.
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Hoping this means we'll get some new lead belchers
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>deletes real thread for his le epic prank to stay up
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>>98313459
Not this edition
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>>98313468
Think I could just run my lead belchers as the crossbow guys?
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>>98313459
>Actual TQ(s):
What do you guys think about the new ogre character? What do you think this means for leadbelchers/maneaters going forward?
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>>98313473
Yeah, the sabrfangs probably won't have rules too. They'll just be token shite
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>>98313474
>What do you guys think about the new ogre character?
Dos not look likea character. Unit leader max
>What do you think this means for leadbelchers/maneaters going forward?
Nothing for now
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>>98313474
fuck off faggot
no one cares
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>>98313459
not sure if the character is any indication. I'd love new belchers, but I'm also fine just using this chararcter as a conversion base. It's just too bland as it is, and it also should be a man.
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>>98313482
>Dos not look likea character. Unit leader max
Yeah my view as well.
I do think this means we'll get leadbelchers back in the future. Bit weird to make a character like that otherwise.
Didn't boole say maneaters were getting a release in 5th edition? Could be related to that.
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>>98313487
a man wouldn't blow his arm hand off
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>>98313486
>he does it for free
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>>98313477
Sweet.
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>>98313494
oh, he absolutely would
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>>98313459
I just hope it means we get a mercenary regiment for order
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>>98313486
>you CANNOT talk about the new aos release in the aos thread you HAVE to talk about my bait no no NO it's not allowed
Lel. Go watch poland's world cup highlight reels or something to cool down
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>>98313362
Wtf is that pic
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guys don't respond to the illegal troll TQ, the official TQ and OP is here
>>98313459
>>98313474
this message was brought to you by the real fans of age of sigmar thank you
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>>98313527
I would not watch Poland's national team if your aim is to cool down
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>>98313459
Is the shark jaw the hand or part of the canon?
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>>98313544
it's fixed to the cannon
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>>98313473
Absolutely
>>98313477
Eh I wouldn't be so sure of that, 40k has a space wolf unit just like it and they've got their own profile. The wildercorps trailhounds have their own attacks too.
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>>98313544
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>>98313548
Lame. Having a shark hook would have been cooler
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>>98313459
Given that they emphasized her mercenary nature, this lends further credence to the theory that maneaters are going to be the "Gun ogres" going forward
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>>98313552
Ok, why the fuck would you describethis as someone who has a canon for an arm?
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>>98313552
Is it me or is that kind of useless? Would slip right off. Need some kind of width at the end so the hook something to hold on to. Like the end of a screw or something y'know
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Watch ogors have 0 mercenary rules unlike gargants or even cogfort
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>>98313559
they have been the musket pistol unit, so it only makes sense if they want to consolidate the two into a single choice
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>>98313570
I think it would work, given it's already strapped by the belt
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>>98313459
>sculpt a man
>declare it a woman
Blood bowl had better looking female ogres
This shit looks like a last minute change.
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>>98313564
kinda looks like it
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>>98313570
I'll leave it off, too. Looks out of place and should be a great bit for other purposes.
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>>98313564
I said it in the last thread, I genuinly think Boole is a fucking moron. Which makes me feel much more confident about TLW not being anywhere near the shit show it's described as.
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>>98313588
I don't like this image
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>>98313581
I think the hairdo is the giveaway. Hunter champion is a woman, too. Thankfully, both are easily fixed.
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>>98313588
>>98313564
He's ESL and read about her prosthetic/disfigurement and the giant cannon
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Reddit is still the best looking ogor character. 1 challenger left, but the rhino looks boring, so i think he clears
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>>98313595
How the fuck are you ESL working in Nothingham?
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>>98313602
have you not noticed that england is 40% jeets these days?
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>>98313606
I wanted to be smug, but Nothingahm is unironically 43% brown acording to the offocial data. Holy shit
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>>98313575
Maneaters and belchers have also both always been sort of hybrid units in AoS, with Maneaters being mostly melee with some shooting, and belchers being shooting that can hold their own in melee. So if they wanted to, they could turn the two into the same kit, where they're both hybrid infantry, but one leans more towards melee and the other more towards ranged.
Or just have a cannon be a 1/3 weapon in maneaters.
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>>98313599
I'm trying to figure out what I could do to make him more interesting. I could just copy what I did with my glutos and grab a couple extra gorgers to carry the whole platform.
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>>98313617
>Or just have a cannon be a 1/3 weapon in maneaters.
I have a feeling that thats what they are gonna do, just a gut feeling tho
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>>98313559
>>98313575
I think that's what's going on here. That would leave us with something like:
>gutbusters (standard ogres)
-gluttons
-ironguts
-maulerbeast melee
-tyrant
-tyrant on glutthorn (?)
-Globbdottir
>beastclaw (hunters/trackers, mounted)
-bloodpelt
-tyrant
-mantrapper
-hunters + sabretusks
-maulerbeast ranged
-thundertusk/frosthorn
-scraplauncher?
>mawseekers (more religious, priests/wizards)
-reddit the maw
-butcher
-cleaver
-gutseekers
-gorgers ?
>maneaters (mercenary, gunpowder)
-grell
-leadbelchers 2.0 TBA
-meaneaters 2.0 TBA
-ironblaster ?
with firebellies as the fifth subculture of course :)
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>>98313617
I'd be totally cool with that desu.
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>>98313625
To be honest, I think that's the most likely option too, though I'd vastly prefer another dual kit like I described.
>>98313627
I personally think that, with a bit of rework, firebellies could be folded into maneaters. IIRC their fluff always had them be wanderers not affiliated with any particular tribe, and if you're going to make the mercenary faction gunpowder focused, it's not too much of a thematic leap to have the nomadic fire wizards end up there.
I also imagine that Tyrants are going to have some sort of special rule that lets them pick which subfaction's keyword they have, possibly tied to their big name, with tyrants also being able to act as leaders for maneaters.
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>>98313621
Maybe like an evil arm reaching out of the pot to pick up corpses the thing rides through
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>>98313602
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>>98313632
I have literally never heard anyone say they dislike the idea of leadbelchers becoming either a type of, or special weapon loadout for maneaters. Obviously making them a special weapon kinda fucks over gunline bros, but even they seem mostly okay with it.
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>>98313434

Actually looks like they addressed several of the 10th edition complaints about flavor and keywords that made no sense, like psychic basically only having negative effects for the unit that had it.

It's not all the way back but they went in the right direction fly psychic terrain objectives and a few other things.
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>>98313621
I'd do away with the carriage and have it be a stationary unit like a rune forge. Thematically, gorgers could be running back and forth to fill the pot.
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>>98313552
I don't like that the cannon is visibly ogre-y, with the same entrail motifs as the big pot, and not something built by another race
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>>98313657
I think it's mostly just that I'd enjoy if Leadbelchers and gunpowder units stuck around, so I'm willing to take a hit if it means we keep ogors shooting people with guns.

>>98313653
I think slimming down the base so his buddies can be moved around and maybe removing the wheels to have it be manually dragged would be nice
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>>98313594
>Thankfully, both are easily fixed
Neither should be a problem in the first place
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>>98313668
relief carving isn't the same as construction
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>>98313657
I mean I'd prefer them to be their own thing, so a dual build maneater/leadbelcher kit would be ideal for me. But if we have to compromise leadbelchers being the 1/3 champion for a new unified hybdrid leadbelcher/maneater unit doesn't sound too bad.
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>>98313672
Yes, but you can't change the base and keep him torunament legal. I asusme we have to fill it rather than jsut cut the crap
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>>98313668
Actually, to me the motif looks like something that was added on top of the cannon's structure for decorative purposes.
Plus a maneater could potentially commission a cannon be made for them. It's a bit of a stretch, but in the realm of possibility.
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>>98313677
My point is that it would have been to cool to see a hint at who originally made it, like how one of the leadbelchers is lugging around a cannon with an Empire symbol on it
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When exactly did Flesh Eater Courts become the default face of the Death Grand Alliance?
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>>98313682
Couldn't you change the base but then just slap him on like a plastic circle that's the exact base size?

Also I doubt I'd be playing any tourneys
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>>98313690
They were the last ones with a major releas wave and only one with a plot recently
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>>98313672
Why does that gorger look so clean though.
He should have a bloody mouth at least to show either the guards or the Slaughtermaster throw him scraps to make him move
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>>98313668
Interestingly the little lore blurb in the warscroll does say the cannon is pilfered, so either the ogres are able to carve it themselves, or the people they stole it from put those designs there in the first place and they're just going with it.
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>>98313696
>Why does that gorger look so clean though.
To make him scarier to the warhammer audience they made him take showers and use deodorant
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>>98313690
You could ask the same about CoS
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I havent played AOS this edition. What's going on with Seraphon?
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>>98313672
Fair enough. It's still astonishing how generally level headed people are being about the whole affair.
>>98313680
Dual build would be my first pick too. They're both maneaters and hybrid ranged/infantry, but one leans more towards being a melee unit that can shoot, and the other a shooty unit that can hold their own in melee.
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>>98313699
Forced him to use ozempic too
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>>98313696
Honestly? A gorger seems like the most likely type of ogre to not have any blood or gristle on them. Not because they're particularly clean, but because they're so fucking hungry that they'd lick up every morsel they can get.
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>>98313701
Slaan is auto include
Kroak is mew
Thats about all I know
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>>98313718
>Kroak is mew
He's under the truck?
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>>98313703
I think ogres could do with some consolidating. Not a fan of the split butcher unit either for that reason. I'm also still hoping for gnoblars, love those little buggers and the army benefits from the contrast they provide on a visual level.
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I like her but it is a little awkward.
If Tyrants had a pistol option it'd be fine but it feels weird for this to be your only thematic options considering one is obviously going and probably needs converting to even look appropriate
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>>98313690
>Try to amek it Nighthaunt with Soul Wars
>Ironically the "easy to paint ghosts" become the thing normalising air brush 2 hour army paintjobs and so beginners try just nihilak washes and hate how it looks and drop them
>Then try Bonereapers
>Immediate backlash from players describing them as "bone tyranids", finds a small audience but simply not enough to be the GA rep
>Next up is vampires
>But Cursed City taints the Soulblight line revamp and deleting existing bloodlines for cursed city while not really expanding on stuff like Nulahmia and the mortarchs at all makes it feel like a dud. Remember the whole "mother of monsters" stuff with the bat-taurs? yeah neither does gw
>All this leaves is FEC
>FEC have slowly but simply built up a large fanbase for being the wierd freakpick that isn't a "member the old world? what if it was similar but lame?" and instead goes in its own direction which was the whole point of AoS. The models, the lore, the vibes are all extremely popular and its a model range where you can paint them to a good standard very easily or go above and beyond to show off and it appeals to all skill levels.

Death outside FEC is the issue. FEC are simply the best thing that the grand alliance has put out.
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>>98313728
Fittingly delusional post
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>>98313668
see >>98313727
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>>98313713
I'm gonna make mine proper hobos adding hair and grime and shit.
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>>98313686
Y'know I was curious about how that works with the ironblaster since in whfb it was supposed to be looted from the giants who lived in the mountains of mourn before they became inbred retards
Turns out gw just recycled that wholesale, the ogres just stole that shit from the sky-titans again, this time they come from somewhere in ghyran. Gw you lazy bums.
Sidenote, but is lexicanum crazy slow for anyone else? That site takes ages to load for me, especially pictures. Don't really have any issues anywhere else.
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>>98313695
ossiarchs count as a major release wave, right? it was 3 kits, a character, and a band, no?
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>>98313754
>is lexicanum crazy slow for anyone else
Yes
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>>98313726
I'm waiting to see how well they differentiate the two units in the cleaver box to weigh in on that. GW doesn't always have the best track record with that sort of thing. Sometimes both units are quite distinct from each other ruleswise, and sometimes they just can't fucking figure out what to do with them both
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>>98313760
>a character,
What character? Or do you mean the generic foot guy?
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>>98313703
>Fair enough. It's still astonishing how generally level headed people are being about the whole affair.

I mean, I think ogor's have been kinda left in the dust so long just seeing a nice rework for basically everything has been redone in a way that makes folks happy. Only whiff I'd say is I don't like the new toothy critters as opposed to the weird wooly rhino thingys as the cav.
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>>98313747
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>>98313769
They will need some work, but the general design is surprisingly solid and restrained.
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>>98313773
That cannon is fuckoff massive ain't it?
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>>98313779
I'm excited to try and stretch out those old vanguards with the new box as far as it can go. See if I can mix and match the new and old shit if it's similar enough sized to make a neato mish mashy force.
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>>98313781
I'd say about mid-sized
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>>98313768
yeah?
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>>98313781
it was made by skytitans
so it's a big cannon by human standards but a small cannon by giants standards

the funniest shit is that the same story of the ogres eating the giants and stealing their cannons happened both in fantasy and in aos
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>>98313788
I doubt the heads will be separate pieces
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>>98313760
I wouldn't say it was a major release wave, medium size I guess? Certainly bigger than the usual pity hero or unit, but not really like what nurgle, CoS, or now Ogres got this year.
I guess it's kind of similar to eshin now that I think about it
Honestly it's pretty nice, maybe it'd be better if we got twice as many of these medium releases instead of the normal huge ones. Things would be more spread out.
Like as an idoneth guy I'd be delighted with something like what obr got instead of the extra foot character and glorified endless spell
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>>98313821
Must be, there's only 5 gluttons bodies but 10 heads
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>>98313825
>as an idoneth guy
my condolences
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I hope ogres get an UW warband too, like OBR or GSG
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>>98313852
I don't expect it
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>>98313839
Hey, somebody's gotta do it
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>>98313852
Wouldn't they show it during the big reveal day?
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>>98313830
All 10 shown off, two sets of 5 legs + gutplates. I suppose they're not swappable which is a downgrade
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>>98313891
downgrade...?

They had 2 bodies for gluttons before...
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>>98313889
They didn't show everything for Ogres period but they didn't show anything for UW at all? OBR had an immediate tie in iirc
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>>98313878
may you be blessed with crab-centric release wave in the not too distant future
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>>98313894
Two bodies for all three infantry kits but the gutplates were swappable - that's the downgrade
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>>98313899
Oh okay I was about to say lel
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>>98313901
Aye, but the variety is lessened. Before you got a bunch of options within and across kits. Bit weird they're remove it when it probably would've been an effortless method of diversity
Plus yknow that's Ogres whole thing?
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>>98313915
not making gutplates universally replaceable would be a missed opportunity for sure, but GW is a different company nowadays
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When will Seraphon get a centerpiece model?
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>>98313963
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>>98314007
horrible model.
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>>98314013
You don't have to glue the circular bits on him if you don't like anon
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>>98313459
This looks not great. Very uninspired. Nothing here suggests mercenary or even character worth learning about
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>>98313963
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>>98313437
it's evident the medicated ones are the people who wanted this illustration
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>>98314013
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>>98314013
must be difficult living with such a shit taste
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>>98313891
How easy do you think it'll be to mix these things together? Alongside maybe changing some poses like the anon using miliput.
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>>98314032
It's not very extravagant is it? When maneaters are one of the units where you can really do that
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>>98313963
there are non-zero chances the exodites in 40k get a sauropod for us to repurpose
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>>98314114
>exodites in 40k
Lol. It's killteam fodder designed to sell Snaggas
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>>98314098
man that is some serious mogging
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>>98314103
It looks incredibly uninspired. With maneaters being one of the highest potential units in the setting for the aesthetics you can lavish onto them and still have it make sense.

Just seems like someone was doing their job but didn’t actually give a fuck about making it cool. I don’t even care about diversity sloppa but when it’s so painfully boring I can’t help but cringe.
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>>98314197
Yeah calling it a maneater (well I guess they technically just called her a mercenary, but with ogres you know what that implies) does her a disservice. More a leadbelcher hero, but even then she's sort of plain.
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>>98314197
The amputee attribute is neat but it doesn't sell the model let alone as a maneater. If it was ornate KO prosthetics or cast iron and wood like CoS that'd be something but idk there's nothing unique here
She has trousers every Ogre wears with a tyrant's leg armour and shoulder plates, they couldn't even give her original decorative elements.
This is just a leadbelcher
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I just wish she was a creepy Underguts Ogre. Given they present Blsckpowder users as pariahs, it makes sense only Underguts would use it - the creepy subterranean chud ogres
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>>98314225
>This is just a leadbelcher
which leads me to believe that they aren't a think anymore and this is the stand-in you will be able to attach to maneaters
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Why the fuck are mercenary larpers even called maneaters?
Gorgers would better fit the name since they're evil
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>>98314273
Ogres are evil period mate Gorgers are the least deserving of the moniker
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>>98314273
they aren't larpers
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>>98314273
Golgfag Maneater was the first
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>>98313581
What the fuck that's a woman?
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>>98314305
it's an ogre woman you gooner
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>>98314225
I do like her cool sash and knives but yeah not a whole lot to go off of.
I feel like if leadbelchers didn't already exist it'd be cooler, like woah she has a cannon sidearm ain't that cool, but we've had guys like that for 20 years already
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>>98314308
Literally just make them cute, is it so hard
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>>98314224
>>98314225
It looks like one of those Warhammer Commemorative Series releases done by someone applying for a job at GW that they sell as limited releases sometimes. „ sculpt me an ogre with an amputated hand and a cannon „. The prosthetic she’s using doesn’t even make sense functionally. They didn’t even bother giving her some latch or some shit.
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>>98314348
If we do get a commemorative leadbelcher that's the TOW crowd sorted for proxies with two bodies lmao
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wow 146 posts and the thread isn't full of nonstop complaining about various greenskin proportions. definitely not getting fatigued af with that shit every single thread. great job guys!
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>>98314389
Kruleboy dicks are obvious longer than Ironjawz.
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>>98313362
When did the fantasy witchhunter trope start including random leather straps to the face? Some witch hunters in the witcher3 have it, and the new "mallus forgepriest" also has it
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>>98313621
Put him in the pot
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>>98314417
No idea. My goat doesn't have that
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>>98314417
The Forgepriest is more of a Warrior Priest than a Witch hunter. which Witcher 3 Witch Hunter art are you seeing?
The base ur-example for Warhammer witch hunter is Solomon Kane and Vincent Price character from the Witchfinder General.
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>>98314273
Theyre not larpers, they have it from their time as a merc in that culture
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Maneaters
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>>98314453
They're larping as whatever they join
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>>98314436
Van helsing does leather capes, and hats
>>98314446
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>>98314463
Its not roleplaying if you literally were immersed in the culture for however long your war was
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>>98314509
That guy definietly doesn't have actual ninja skills
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>>98314308
I know what an Orge woman is supposed to look like. That is a disfigured creature that has not a single female aspect about it. Even the gutplate covers where the tits should be.
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>>98314505
So a few scroll holders?
It's not that excessive and if were counting that, then Witch Hunter has had scrolls since at least the Witch Hunter Handbook for Warhammer Fantasy
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>>98314526
How dare you
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>>98314509
They are canonically larpers
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>>98314476
Kek
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>>98314528
Anon, all the fem ogors look just as horrifying and disgusting as all the other fem ogors.

The only difference is the blood bowl ones have giant knockers out on display.
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>>98314539
Im talking about the leather band across the nose
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>>98314603
Oh, my mistake anon
I have no idea
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I think skaven should have a cavalry unit of rat centaurs made by moulder, eshin kite ninjas who divebomb backlines, clanrats with electrobomb backpacks for Skryre, and a Verminus clanmaster who makes all of the rules (he also has a fuckhuge sword he drags around)
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>yung musclemommy is the only one who can wield the heptagun
Why do they fuck up AoS units so easily compared to new 40k sculpts or new fantasy factions?
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>>98314639
have you considered converting such units and writing rules for them?

because gw will never make them for you
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>>98314644
Pic related
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>>98314644
>40k
>not fucked up
Brother have you seen the Blood Angels? Any fuck up that happens in AOS pales in comparison to the worst fuckups 40k has had even in just the last 5 years.
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>>98314649
they didn't want to rip off Sharpe by having a big Irish-looking guy be the person using the Volley gun
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>>98314651
The new sanguinary guard are dogshit, I agree, but 40k has far less miss rates than AoS sculpts have. I remember when fyreslayers came out and couldn't believe GW thought people would buy a whole army of thess guys
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>>98314674
Fyreslayers were WHFB holdovers. I don't know how much they were changed during the transition, but they're still holdovers regardless.
Also, comparing fyreslayers isn't particularly fair either way since the damn things are a decade old.
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>>98314674
If we are speaking post-covid, and not AoS launch. then 40k absolutely has more miss-rates. There's a reason "AoS is only held up by its minis" meme is a thing.
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>>98314662
>include 1 (one) irish guy in your novel about the angloirish wellington's penisular campaign
>name him patrick
What did the author mean by this
>>98314695
They were the first non stormcast non chaos models no?
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>>98314674
AoS is just more polarizing. What you or I think are big misses is the best thing ever created to some other guy. Like those guys on tga with 30k points of fyreslayers somehow. I mean, I fucking love idoneth and especially the namarti, so I know what I'm talking about here.
40k, by contrast, is a lot more boxed in. Nobody (but grogs) hated the new space marines, but nobody was blown away by them either.
AoS has higher highs and lower lows, that's how I look at it personally. I feel like I could take almost every army in AoS and put together at least a 1000 point army out of units that I really like. Of course, there's also units that I really dislike in every army, but I simply won't ever buy those so who cares.
Whereas in 40k, there's usually not really many units that are offensively bad to me, but also not many units that really speak to me. Usually it's like one or two per faction where I'm like wow I want to put those models in my army.
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>>98314711
Post covid? I mean post covid did make them include more blacks and women, but AoS launch is also when the studio is doing dumb stuff like KNOT reaper primaris, primaris in general, and splitting White Dwarf into a weekly tiny mag thats a catalog, and Warhammer Visions which was everyone's painted cool stuff
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>>98314718
They were, though apparently at least some part of them were supposed to be a slayer rework/expansion for WHFB that they decided to rework.
It would sort of explain how they're treated if that's the case. The designers don't really see them as fully AoS so they get treated like FB holdovers, despite technically debeuting in AoS
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>>98314751
Is this why the motarchs have been left behind too?
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>>98314777
That's just an endtimes kit
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>>98314777
Half that, half that there's no real good way to do them. They either have to do them piecemeal, which means that they'll either have to deal with one or more of them temporarily not having kits, or the original mortarch kit having one or more redundant options, OR they'll have to make three new centerpiece models for two different armies at the same time
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>>98314742
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>>98314757
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>>98314820
This is disingenuous and implies GW doesn’t make faces with distinctly African features all the time for AoS
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>>98314825
I'm worried about this sun
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>>98314820
Admire the dedication but no matter the paintjob, the noses give away what they are
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>>98314639
Thats just a miniature hellpit abom.
But i agree, the main issue of the Skaven refresh, is that they decided to completely remake the base mesh, which was unneccesary, UW and BB already had the old remesh with newer crisper details and more dynamic poses, they should have focused on making the dog rat units into the 8th ed style, and then just bring a bunch of new units
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>>98314674
Fyreslayers are less of a sculpt issue and more of an army identity and aesthetic issue. They're just kinda shit from the ground up. Plus the majority of the army is from the early days of AOS when shit was really not that great. Fatcasts were awful too. For the most part AOS comes down to taste IMO. Meanwhile the lows of 40k are generally clowned on by a majority of people. There's some weirdos who like the Grey Knights baby carrier, but they clearly have shit taste and are in the minority.
For those in AOS who like an army, most of the models are a hit. Personally almost nothing in OBR will be a hit with me because I don't like their aesthetic.
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>>98314674
AoS factions are made for people who like them. You either love IDK, or KO, or FS, or you hate them, theres simply no inbetween
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>>98314820
The KO girl is cute, shes a dwarf version of Indica Flowers. And i absolutely hate the salvagers kit, but the heads there are nice
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>>98314827
Ok, and? It's almost like those people exist and it makes sense for them to be in this fantasy world of magical realms. It's not like there's any geography that prevents COS from having black people in it. The world isn't all european men.
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>>98314718
There's an idea floating around that fyreslayers were originally supposed to debut in the end times, after all there's mentions of some weird gimnir cultist guys in either the end times books or the last g&f book I don't remember
I don't think it's very likely, I think it's rather just that fyreslayers were sculpted in a transitional period where they could put fantasy sculpts on rounds but didn't really know what and what not to do. Hence stupid symmetrical wide stances etc.
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>>98314918
>Fatcasts were awful too
Straight up wrong, slender proportions on the nucast look like dogshit, thesame way they look like dogshit on waste majority of "true scale" miniatures, not even talking about the amount of bits and heralrdry they have lost.

And Slayer issue is exactly in sculpts, they are dogshit with bad poses, and interchangable bearded heads ruin them further, Vulkyn flameseeker are the biggest proof
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>>98314827
THeres like 1-2 per kit, and if you want to be racist, you can literally claim that they are colonized tribal savages, like Caliss. AoS is literally Burden of the white man the setting
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>>98314944
I prefer the proportions of thunderstrike but fatcast had a lot of bling that has been lost. We went from art deco einherjar to dark souls protagonist painted golden, thematically.
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>>98314939
>weird gimnir cultist guys in either the end times books or the last g&f book
The Brotherhood of Grimnir?
There are rules in TOW now but they ar just slayers with some extra rules
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>>98314939
Karak Kadrin had rules in 6th edition fantasy.
But wether or not Slayers were meant for end times, they absolutely suffer from the modelling philosophy. Their poses are "Dynamic" yet static, and the fact that they are mid 2010s multipart kit harms them too, it rally harmed lots of models, compare multipart Liberators and monopose starter ones for instance
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>>98314953
>>98314936
They exist irl, but if a specific faction is meant to be a specific group, why are there randos in it? Should every 10th brettonian be black or a woman? When theyre meant to be all Frenchmen
As thats what the CoS and nuguard look like, and minus the women part for SM
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>>98315002
>Should every 10th brettonian be black or a woman? When theyre meant to be all Frenchmen
You're right. Every 10th brettonian should be white, with all the others being brown.
They ARE supposed to be frenchmen after all.
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>>98315002
Bretonnia is based on France and Britain.
Cities are explicitly a bunch of azerytes who come to tribal savages and teach them how to wash their assess, if you wathc to much of AzyrNews that is
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>>98315015
>Launch telegram
>Go to my favourite channel Mhornar Marauders
>Watch Goblins be FPV drones

>Turn on Nurgle TV for the background
>Its a chaos lord owning sigmarites with facts and logic

Life in the realms is comfy
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>>98315007
Topkek, but if the faction is humans, that means theyre bound by human biology, and so every female soldier, is countless possible boys who won't be born because their mother is either on active service or dies in combat. Women being the leaders of noble houses when all their men die out, ala maria theresa, is fine, but to pretend the strength of a human is the same between a man and a woman is asinine
>>98315015
Why isnt the whole unit black, slavic, alpinoid, germanic, chinese, japanese, inuit, mapuche, or native american then. If theyre formed from civilised tribes, they should be continous rather than modern day cityslop
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>>98315015
AzyrNews is only news I watch because it's Fair and Balanced unlike the Chaos News Network.
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>>98315023
>Why isnt the whole unit black, slavic, alpinoid, germanic, chinese, japanese, inuit, mapuche, or native american then
Thats for books and /yourdudes/
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>>98315002
>Should every 10th brettonian be black or a woman?
Of course not. That would be stupid and inconsistent with the world of Warhammer Fantasy. It's not inconsistent with the world of AOS, which doesn't have the same sort of limits because it's a bunch of magic disk worlds. Having non-Stormcast women in frontline positions like COS has done is stupid, I won't argue that. They should be in gunline positions like GW did with Cathay.
>>98315023
It's almost like cities have a tendency to break down culture barriers or something.
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>>98314918
Fyreslayers had two kits designed at the same time for a decade. We know nothing of what Fyreslayers could ever have been design wise because they didn't go anywhere until Flameseekers
Such a retarded take
>Umm Snarlfang Riders just aren't a good basis for an army. They're very problematic design wise!
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Which army should I get for my wife's son? He's 14 and interested in this hobby.
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>>98314674
>couldn't believe GW thought people would buy a whole army of thess guys
Fyreslayers came out before allegiances so they didn't. That's why microfactions existed. You got a few units and some battalions to slot into your GA Order armies or to use exclusively if you're weird like that.
It's only a year later with the GHB that Fyreslayers even got allegiance rules and honestly while it was a fair option to explore it shouldn't been as a part of Dorfs soup
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>>98314757
>Swamp
>>98314825
>Forest
An AoS UB set with one grand alliance each would slap
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>>98315088
Deoends, is he bullied in school or a bit retarded for example? Its skaven then
>>98315146
UB?
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>>98315088
Space Marines
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>>98315088
Ask him, and if he asks for advice, just tell him to pick out who he thinks looks the coolest.
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>>98315151
Universes Beyond. 40k had one and it sold like hotcakes. Buying one of their commander decks now costs like.... as much as if not more than a combat patrol
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>>98315023
>but to pretend the strength of a human is the same between a man and a woman is asinine
good thing this isn't set in the real world
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>>98315088

id probably recommend flesh eaters, seraphon, deepkin, nighthaunt, ironjawz or stormcast as these a fairly approachable easier to paint models that dont have a load of detail. and they include a few animals which would be fun to paint patterns n such on them.

but of course the kid needs to find them cool

also probs avoid fyreslayers as its likely they are getting replaced and changed a lot soon
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Is there any Fyreslayer with mohawk stretching along spine down to the tailbone?
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>>98315274
UB is the cancer killing mtg right now
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>>98315756
Grimhold exile is the closest you're going to get I think
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...can you play AOS with squares? My lizardmen are on squares
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>>98313726
You want less units? Why? They look distinct and we don't know their roles yet (it seems to be fuck your wizard/love my wizard)
If anything, gluttons and ironguts are more similar but even then I would say that they are different enough
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>>98315146
4 colour decks for all.
Non-U Destruction
Non-B Order
Non-G Death
Non-W Chaos
And naybe non-R aelfs if Order is too large for 1.
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>>98316195
Sure. Not in ""official"" tournaments, but in casual games it doesn't matter in the slightest.
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>>98316195
yeah literally no one outside of maybe a super uptight games workshop brick and mortar will care.

i was watching the games at one of the bigger community tournament organizers, honest wargamer, and the players at his event had all sorts of proxies and conversions and unusually shaped models.

like was telling another anon earlier, this isnt 40k, aos players arent that uptight when it comes to base size, especially since square armies were still pretty common in the first few editions while everyone was switching over or tenatively unsure if the game was gonna last when it was new, and a lot of kits at the time still had their old fantasy packaging and came with squares anyways.

the only time unusual bases or models will get you into trouble is if its very obvious gamesmanship like a small guy on a 100mm base or deliberately trying to obfuscate who's holding a special weapon or using the same proxy to represent two different units making it hard to tell which is which.

aos also isnt super reliant on scenery for LoS blocking and its terrain rules arent as specific as 40k when it comes to things like height, so you dont usually have to worry about models following the same sillhouette either. only case i can think there that would raise an eyebrow might be using the old tiny metal greater daemons as the new ones when the new models are 10x the size, but even then i'd bet there's still a fair portion of the player base who'd be cool with that just to see the old metals on the table again.
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>>98314582
Spot on but that Mawseeker acolyte on bottom right is a ogor male.
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>>98314582
To be honest, I've been to Britain twice and their males look like that too, there is something effeminating in rolls of fat
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>>98313362
That picture makes me want to find everyone who had a hand in bringing those faggotballoon-dwarfs and slowly poison them over time with excess sodium like a munchhausen mother. Or just break their kneecaps with a sledgehammer. And yes I know John Blanche had something to do with it, I'd even ressurect him and fucking smash his gay kneecaps as well. That's how much I hate the fucking gayballoon-faggotkikedwarfs!
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>>98314649
I'm so glad I've never bought any AoS shit and I never will.
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>>98314833
Timeless
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>>98313963
Not this edition
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>>98316361
thanks for letting us know mateusz
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I hope that FEC jester artifact is a hint toward jester hero or minstrel unit. I was worried that jester shtick was owned by MoN
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>>98316491
They're saving the jester design for the inevitable ghoulapalooza
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>>98316516
I don't know, what would even go there?
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>>98316470
FEC don't wear bralettes, they have disgusting sagging breasts exposed. Coward goon shit
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>>98316521
>jester
>court painter
>davinci type inventor guy
>heraldic animal (some fucked up monstrosity)
>squire
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>>98316491
>I was worried that jester shtick was owned by MoN
It's clearly not cause [faction you play] are all clowns too!
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>>98316566
I play KB, so there is a bit of tomfoolery going on and I do feel like a jokera sometimes
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>>98316361
>I'm so glad I've never bought any minis and I never will.
We know, /vg/ tourist
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>>98316601
KB would hanch for Joker in Gotham Realms
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>>98314649
Why are they designing units with such specificity in the first place? I hate warcry so much bros
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>>98316532
They already have royal chief/butcher, falconer, huntsman, executioner and ambassador as a separte units.
Normal unit would do ghouls much better than hero-lite bag of tricks
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>>98314582
with a nice fake tan bish bosh that's a 10 in engerland but those new ogres are minging
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>>98316521
king's court followers
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>>98316491
gloomspite have a bunch of goobers who wear jester style caps with little moon shaped jangles on the end. even their king has a marotte and curly shoes
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>>98316640
Sure, but there's basically infinite courtly ghoul hero ideas, so I figure to prevent herobloat we might see them grouped together
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>>98316658
People don't like bag of heroes units. That's why GW usually ends up spliting them up
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>>98316663
Gobbapalooza and command corps seem popular enough
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>>98316658
Herobloat comes from pity heroes, not GW wanting to use up faction's theme to the fullest. Adding ghoulopalooza would not stop them from adding pity hero next edition
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>>98316679
Corps got split up.
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>>98316663
but people vastly prefer 5 heroes found in a single kit than 5 separate kits for 5 overpriced infantry models
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>>98316684
They are sold and taken together unfortunately.
I don't know why the Gobba wasn't just another picrel, just a box of shamans.
Similarly I don't understand why you can't take a whisperblade on its own
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>>98316705
A Gotrek story features a giant iirc
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>>98316706
Wasn't Gobba all separate scrolls + one united scroll (+ WD scroll on squigs) in 2e
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>>98316684
Only the profiles, you still gotta take em all
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>>98316708
You couldn't take them individually but yes, it was separate warscrolls.
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>>98314953
It's not racist to find it retarded to see black people in medieval europe. Answer why there are no negros in Cathay? Hm? Oh you won't because of left wing cognitive dissonance.
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>>98316780
Furthermore why is it not racist that there is no fantasy not-Africa ? And if there was one, would it be good to make every 10th warrior a white european? Too uncomfortable to think about AoSissy?
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>>98316780
>medieval europe
I know you're a well researched anthropologist but AoS isn't set in "medieval europe"
lmao retard
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>>98316800
and cathay isn't china, and yet!
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>>98316705
Also, in dawnbringers, Slaaneshi Ogor merceneries were affected by Kingsblood and experiencing delusions
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>>98316804
Peek was Abraxia panicking cause the world started turning into MPL after ghoul spit into her eye
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>>98316780
But it's not medieval europe, it's hammerhal or lethis or greywater, etc.
>why are there no black people in cathay
Because unlike AoS, whfb nations correspond fairly 1 to 1 to real world regions
We have this conversation every week
>>98316793
Yes we've all seen your slapchopped deathguard, now shoo
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>>98316808
FEC really won those books, didn't they?
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I wonder how much rage levels can I expect in a game? I don't think you would be able to get to level 7, unless your opponent want you to
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>>98316800
Explain where they got the designs and inspiration from if not European culture and history? And why is there no not-Africa with white people in it? I'll wait.

>>98316809
>hammerhal or lethis or greywater
>Not based on Europe.
You're not as smart as you think.
>Because unlike AoS, whfb nations correspond fairly 1 to 1 to real world regions
Ok so why is there no Asian or African nation or history represented in AoS? Are they racists? Why is the not-Europe filled with blacks, but there's no not-Asia or not-Africa? And if there was, would it be racist to object to every 10th not-Asia/not-Africa soldier being a white European?
As I predicted you willingly pretend not to hear or understand the question, or you are just low IQ, or both. WHFB is a fantasy, yet without immersion breaking negroes and women. You gobble up condescending and preposterous "black people can have some of our culture since they have none" slop and you probably love trannies.
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>>98316838
Anon just go back to /v/ and save us all the time.
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>>98316845
I accept that you have no argument, and therefore agree with me that they should remove all blacks from CoS. Thanks for the clarification :)
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Please remember that this is a free service, no one gets paid
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>>98316809
>Because unlike AoS, whfb nations correspond fairly 1 to 1 to real world regions

So why is GW shoving niggers into art about warhammer fantasy empire?
Keep making excuses aids monkey.
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>>98316809
>Because unlike AoS, whfb nations correspond fairly 1 to 1 to real world regions
Yeah, nothing 1:1 about CoS and medieval europe, nope sir, just cohencidences.
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>>98316848
>gets shown exactly what he asked for
>just ignores it because he has no answer
Don't you have a new total war dlc to play?
>>98316850
I dunno, take it up with /wfg/. Not exactly our department is it.
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>>98316825
Depends on who you are fighting against but you can't control it, just spam your abilities so you can increase opponent's fury and they can increase yours in return. They should add additional was of getting rage, like losing units or objectives
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>>98316858
How is the image you posted relevant? Which culture is that design based on? Bones, stilts and bamboo??? you are a master of jewish style rhetoric. It's actually impressive and horrifying.
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>>98316838
The realms are not equivalent to Earth, the designs are not Swiss mercenaries from the 15th century but an example of convergence.
AoS doesn't necessarily have a racist history of a majority white nation excluding dark skinned neighbours but if they did that's irrelevant because AoS is a Noah's Ark situation where all the disparate peoples of an older age live together in cosmopolitanism.
If anything, the centre of the setting is in a place analogous to Africa with dark skinned natives so it is a mystery why there aren't more blacks.
Don't support GW if you're racist. Simple as, mate, there's nothing to argue about. If you give them money or attention for 40k or TOW you're telling them you approve of them making afrocentric games. Good job.
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>>98316849
Russia pays a few rubbles to someone but we're in the bottom feeder bought into the outrage territory
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>>98316838
slaanesh has Arabian design elements and has plenty of white people
fyreslayers have SEA design elements and have plenty of white people
lumineth have east asian and south asian design elements and have plenty of white people
nurgle's rotmire creed has african design elements and has plenty of white people
new ogres have chinese design elements and has plenty of somewhat caucasian-coded ogres
I actually can't think of a single AoS army with non-european design elements that doesn't have white people. Except for seraphon I guess, but they don't have people at all.
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>>98316870
warhammer fantasy is not woke so I fully support that instead
gw will go bankrupt for their woke dei pandering but I suspect the old world developers will make bank from the financial support of true patriots I'm printing some dwarves as we speak and look forward to getting stuck in to a real man's game
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>>98316870
>If anything, the centre of the setting is in a place analogous to Africa with dark skinned natives
no, it isn't africa
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>>98316877
> gw will go bankrupt for their woke dei pandering
You’ve been saying this for the past 15 years
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>>98316869
hislet
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>>98316870
Damn that's a whole lot of missing the point. Why is the world centered in medieval Europe not Africa or Asia? ???
I'm not racist btw, you're just anti white.

>>98316874
>Slaanesh
Yeah they shouldn't be white if their design is Arabian I agree.
>Fyreslayers
Are Celtic, not Asian.
>Lumineth
Are elves thus irrelevant. Also why no negro elves?
>Rotmire
What is African about them? You equate the nations and history of Africa with bones, stilts and zulu shields?
>Ogres
Why no negrogres?

>non-european design elements
Uh,huh , where is the non-european human army fully based on real world nations and history? You mention a bunch of demon worshippers, monsters and elves. No good humans?
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>>98316872
Facebook boomer tier thinking lol
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>>98316891
I don't see the connection. Also if that were the case, why are 9/10 of them not African with African noses?
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>>98316887
Name on Aqshy native who is white
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>>98316904
First image result
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>>98316904
Khul
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>>98316877
>warhammer fantasy is not woke
Oh mate... just make sure not to look at the bret foot knights
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>>98316913
that is a young male squire we've already seen this proven by archwarhammer lmao
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>>98316917
This squire was checked by true Bretonnia patriots
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>>98316897
D you not know what the term design element means anon?
>>Fyreslayers
>Are Celtic, not Asian.
The magmadroth and thus magmadroth-derived designs have relatively clear south-east asian design elements. Of course, this is in addition to celtic and anglo-saxon design elements carried over from slayers. Mixing various inspirations is quite common in AoS
>>Rotmire
>What is African about them? You equate the nations and history of Africa with bones, stilts and zulu shields?
Their shields, yes. One could argue that the leader's headgear also bears similarities to some tradition tribal african headpieces but that's less certain.
>Uh,huh , where is the non-european human army fully based on real world nations and history? No good humans?
There is currently only one human army and it's CoS, which is primarily based on hussite stuff, at least the equipment.
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>>98316928
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>>98316897
>where is the non-european human army fully based on real world nations and history?
In the lore and books, but you wouldnt know
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With new Ogors, the new central motiff is the spiral gut element, the Taotie symbol. With this aestethics move, GW made new Ogors not Mongolian but deeply tied to Chinese civilization. Spiral symbol represents infinity. God of Ogors is a eternal and infinite hunger and gluttony.

It gets even more interesting once you know the history of cannibalism in China. NO OTHER civilization in human history had such a close affinity to cannbalism. Basically, in last 3000-4000 yeare Chinese engaged in all kinds of cannibalism. 1. From eating humans during great famines and period of starvation. 2. Eating your enemies. Chinese warlords, government official and emperors literally ate their enemies as sign of absorbing enemy strenght and humiliating them. 3. Medicine cannibalism, where people would eat parts of other people for health sake. From fingers, cuts of thigh, arms to organs such as heart, livers and others.
4. Last but by far most Slaaneshi, in Chinese history, there is a 3500 year old history where in certain time periods, human meat was seen as the greatest culinary delicacy.

For example, devouring the heart of most beautiful maiden in your area would cure you of all your ills and greatly expand your lifespan.

Some ancient Chinese books saw eating tender human flesh as path to immortality.

GW really cooked with this new design.
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>>98316933
>Do you belive that russians did some shit to mess with somone, even if theres no direct gain, or even harm to them
If you dont, you never met a russian
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>>98316928
>magmadroth-derived designs have relatively clear south-east asian design elements
Maybe that's why they look shit and out of place?

>Rotmire
So why are they all white basically?

>There is currently only one human army and it's CoS
Hussites are white Europeans so yes you prove my point again.
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>>98316943
magmadroths are based in post Roman Britain iconography you troon
Dwarfs have always had them
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friendly reminder to report all off topic shitposting
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>>98316908
not necessarily native aqshian
>>98316911
the khul canonically come from Ghur, and Khorghos was specifically noted for his pale skin while among the Aridians of aqshy
>>98316934
Like I said, mixed with earlier celtic/anglo-saxon design elements
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>>98316936
Does that mean that they are going to have some more ties with FEC? Gorgers seem like a borderline beings
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>>98316936
I adore this model.

Mawseeker Acolytes also look amazing. The guy on the right with half a face hidden behind a hood looks so creepy and omnious. Pure horror. Peak design.
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>>98316960
We have three factions that have very similar connection.

Ogors, FEC and Hedonites led by Glutos.
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>>98316962
You literally talk like a soijak and look like a soijak
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>>98316950
To whom? Janitors are the ones posting
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>>98316961
>Uhuh and what is it? Care to name the Age of Sigmar non-european human army fully based on real world nations and history?
Riika-Min from the Yndrasta book is based on Inuits, and live in a giant sled-city
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>>98316962
Model is ok at best but adding 2 mawseekers is appreciated.
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>>98316903
>>98316943
The rotmire take in diseased outcasts from Free Cities.
You would know this, if you did even the tiniest bit of research on the things you're sperging out for.
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>>98316904
khul, many of the bloodbound hordes, the brand family, the direbrand family including vandus hammerhand
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>>98316955
Secondary
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>>98316977
Ok so why are they 90% white if they are "African coded"? I don't see a single African nose among them.
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>>98316968
You really showed me, little buddy.
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>>98316990
Likewise, big man!
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>>98316980
>khul
from ghur
>bloodbound hordes
post age of myth
>vandus
Do we know vandus' skin colour? the guy was known as blackfist before getting reforged, but that's not really indicative of much
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>>98316928
>The magmadroth and thus magmadroth-derived designs have relatively clear south-east asian design elements
No, they aren't.
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>>98316984
>Where are the non-european factions?
>In the lore
>Yeah but the author is a fat faggot
Tf does that have to do with anything?

>>98316987
Because they are not, only african thing they have are the shield shape
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>>98317000
tbf noah does write lots of minority centric stuff (which is good). I love the ghur Inuit in the Yndrasta novel
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>>98316967
Glutos does have a lore connection with Ogors. That being said, he is only a subfaction.
Cannibalism and meat eating is tied to Ogors' and Ghouls' identities as a whole, so they are more closely related
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>>98317009
I miss proper rumor engines
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>>98317009
I believe
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>>98317000
>In the lore
In some black library slop. ftfy
Also they aren't a faction that is sold, produced and advertised. And if they were, would there be 1/10 African inuits? 1/10 European inuits?
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>actually aos doesn't have direct world analogs
>actually this place in aos is non-white
>actually this faction has non-white inspirations
>actually zombie dragons aren't dragons
why are you like this?
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>>98317019
throwing Landsknect in the Witcher novels didn't turn it into 14th century HRE, elements are borrowed or place influence on rather than warping a setting wholesale
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>>98317018
Do you expect GW to make a hundred different infantry kits for every single possible culture in the setting? CoS are a middleground compromise, whos entire lore justification is that retarded politicians are doing a retarded unification programme
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>>98317022
if your setting has swords it's automatically medieval europe because swords were invented by medieval europeans
they aren't using blowpipes and bongos as the main mode or warfare in age of sigmar
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>>98317009
I would guess bloodbowl, it seems too cartoony for anything else
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>>98317027
>they aren't using blowpipes and bongos as the main mode or warfare in age of sigmar
Depends on where you are
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>>98317033
CoS heraldy creatures?
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Is the Ironblaster staying? It hasn't gone sold out yet
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>>98317041
you don't own a single painted miniature from any of GWs systems lmao
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>>98316985
Yes anon, like I have told you three times over already, fyreslayer mix older whfb dwarf design cues with new SEA-inspired magmadroths.
>>98316987
I just told you, they take in exiles from the free cities, who can be of many races because of the whole age of chaos diaspora thing going on. Noah's Ark situation, as another anon put it.
The origins of the equipment (swamp-themed, with some african cues) and the origins of the actual people do not necessarily have to match, as there is a perfectly good lore explanation for that.
I'm glad we could sort this out.
>>98317019
Aos obviously has real world analogs, but it is usually not as 1 to 1 direct as whfb, certainly not geographically.
Aside from the random zombie dragon statement the other two are just straight up correct, straightforward, and uncontroversial sentences.
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>>98317043
maybe but we just had CoS stuff this year im not sure they going to do another update
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>>98317033
it seems every unit gets a mascot critter nowadays tbf
ogres missing Gnoblars is honestly surprising
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>>98317051
>new SEA-inspired magmadroths
magmadroths are just more Celtic dragons. You have nothing to suggest otherwise other than this delusional ambition to project diversity where it doesn't exist
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>>98317053
Been some time since we had another long lasting rumour added
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>>98317069
True, the last one was in February, right?
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>>98317058
John Blanche, the artist behind Fyreslayers art, was promoted to a concept artist in 2023 or something and he's Philippino so it's guaranteed Fyreslayers are based on Malaysians
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>>98317074
Good question, anyone have active rumours?
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>>98317076
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>>98317009
Some chaos imp for a comemorative model
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>>98317105
So, an update on this?
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>>98317058
>Source? Do you have a source for that? It needs to be peer-reviewed.
>>98317076
I'm going to assume you mean kevin chin here lel
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>>98317127
That's not a source
See >>98316985
Having a tongue doesn't mean they're Asian
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>>98317134
Look at the horns/mane shape, not the tongue
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>>98317135
Irondrakes confirmed to be based on Malaysian temple decorations I take it?
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>>98317142
They look literally nothing like the magmadroth
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>>98317044
unclear, but it's very possible that it's not staying
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>>98317127
Those don't look alike.
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cope
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>>98317216
the magmadroth doesn't look like that, anon
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>>98317216
Nothing alike, unless you want to argue unicorns are malaysians or something.
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>>98316684
They were split up because they were the most powerful unit in CoS, easily. People were running multiple Corps as if they were frontline melee units since their inception.
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>>98317159
They are horned dragons
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Malaysians invented the shape of flames
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>>98317291
shortly after having invented fire, that is
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>>98317291
why do they have arrows pointing to their butt?
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>>98317240
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>>98317308
FREE USE HOLES
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>>98317308
For the same reasont the guy in question is flashing you his cheeks
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>>98317309
I didn't know potatoshit was so heavily SEA too this is interesting
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>>98317291
Unironically the glaive coming out of their nose like that is reminiscent of >>98317216
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>>98317362
not much, no
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>>98317362
FIREslayers
>actually that is not a curvature alluding to a flame, it's a homage to south east asian temple guardian statues
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>>98317373
What do you mean, "no" lol. It's a basic shape.
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>>98316838
because the cities of sigmar are not the 'not-europe' in the setting
>but they have elements of the hussites!!!
okay? the king of haiti dressed like a french aristocrat, was he a french aristocrat?
the timeline provides a super clear reasoning for why the cities of sigmar are like that
>realms are occupied by myriad tribes who have skin tones based on geographic conditions much like real life
>sigmar's godly alliance unites most of the realms civilizations in a massive empire
>prejudice is instead mostly along the lines of species, black and white humans will always be more similar than a human and an elf
>chaos invades, ruins everything, wealthiest/most important/luckiest people from the myriad civilisations escape to azyr
>years later, sigmar goes 'it's reconquista time' and cities of anyone willing to leave azyr begin forming across the realms
>natives of the realms who've survived all this time alternate from hating them for abandoning them, being chaosCHADS, or being happy to see civilisation on a larger scale return
the fluff of aos is unironically colonisation being a good thing
they wrote it to justify your armies looking however you wanted, because chaos also recruits from across the realms (usually only taking the best of the best from any savage tribe they come across). if you don't like this because you le hate le niggers then that's fine just don't pretend there's anything else to it
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>>98317388
>It's a basic shape.
so, not reminiscent of anything other than a basic shape.
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>>98317397
>because the cities of sigmar are not the 'not-europe' in the setting
Yes, they are.
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>>98317397
>prejudice is instead mostly along the lines of species
You missed the entire ReclaimedVAzeryrte conflict which is there, even if not always very prominent. A lot of the CoS citizens either dont like the Azerytes, or dont like the locals
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>refuses to address any points
uh oh stinky, they're the not-america btw
>>98317409
ye i meant before the reclamation started, i brought the conflicts up between the two later
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>>98317402
>Litearlly Berlin
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>>98317409
Not how a timeline works, anon
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>>98317419
What does it have to do with a timeline? Cities are not "not-Europe", there are cities that ARE "not-europe", but not all of them. The current CoS range is explicitly in the lore, a retarded attempt at unification of tactics and equipment
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>>98317397
>They're colonists, and they dress like europeans, and have european technology, and build european architecture.
>but they're not not-europe I swear!

>btw fyredwarfs are malaysians and ghur, ghyran and aqshy are all africa
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>>98317416
your smudge doesn't change the fact the predominant human aesthetics are neoclassical and european medieval
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>>98317432
>they dress like europeans, and have european technology
Already covered
>The current CoS range is explicitly in the lore, a retarded attempt at unification of tactics and equipment
>and build european architecture.
They dont, unless the city in question is explicitly not-europe
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Been a while since this one popped up
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>>98317432
>america wasn't made up of colonists
jeez you really are retarded
>european technology
we had cogforts?
>european architecture
hehe
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>>98317441
>neoclassical and european medieval
AoS is art deco slop tourist
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>>98317442
That's more of an elven city than a human city, it's a pet project of theirs.

You're living in denial of the fact that the cos is the not-european human faction and that any and all inclusions of non-whites isn't driven by lore but by an ideological dei agenda
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>>98317450
Could you compress the image a bit more? 191kb is too much for my internet connection
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>>98317432
>>They're colonists, and they dress like europeans, and have european technology, and build european architecture.
>>but they're not not-europe I swear!
?? no?
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>>98317450
been so long since horsefag has been at it
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>>98317463
>inclusions of non-whites isn't driven by lore but by an ideological dei agenda
Im not really arguing with that, that is annoying, but the world of AoS is explicitly build for that to work fine, its not the same as including indians in a Bretonnia army
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>>98317461
deco is a form of neoclassicism, retard, and it's still not a non-white aesthetic
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SEA dragons more snake like, quite explicitly snakes not just serpentine
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>>98317454
>one (1) pagoda amidst gothic spires
wow, much african!
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CoS the army is very obviously based on hussites and therefore european
CoS the faction is much more nuanced with a variety of inspirations
I don't know why this is so hard for some to accept
>>98317478
nta but eh is it? If anything art deco is aping ancient egyptian stuff
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>>98317489
wow! i'm sure you can post a photo of somewhere in europe that looks like that then :)
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>>98317426
The quote you were complaing about was describing things in the age of myth, not in the 'present day' where the azyrite/reclaimed conflict is a thing
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>>98317504
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>>98317535
Where's the pagoda?
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>>98317539
wait, sorry, let me fix that
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>>98317535
where's the circular spires, giant statues, asiatic sloping roofs?
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>>98317553
kek
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>>98317553
My Cities of Sigmar (Cathay proxies) hail from Tempest Ayo in Aqshy
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Starting AoS, are the free core rules, good enough to use in a 2000pts game or do I need the big rule book?
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>>98317741
Don't start with tournament play lmao but no, you'll need your faction rules use wahapedia
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>>98317741
Start with spearhead
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>>98317771
Start with the getting started booklet
Idk why people jump into even 500pt games before pushing a single model about
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>>98317807
I feel like somebody starting AoS is most likely already somewhat down for things.
It's not like we're 40k where a secondary is shelling out 200 bucks for the newest marine battleforce on a whim without having ever even seen a model before.
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>>98317807
There an option to do a trial painting in GW shop but I wouls say that you can't say you will like AoS if you don't play a game with models and theme you like
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>>98317450
Today's discussion topic should really be on this. It's easily the most common. Though to be fair it probably is just an extension of tow/aos console wars most of the time.
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Wake up /aosg/, new boolesloppa dropped
Kroak might be kill
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>>98318473
>Kroak might be kill

Isn't kroak dead
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>>98318473
Yeah I'm sure GW is removing Kroaks $150 centerpiece model that released a couple of years ago as we speak.

At most it just means that the new guy gets inflated main character status for a bit.
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>>98318511
I'd bet money it's a priest on a moderately long base that's mounted on something.
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>>98318498
He is lol. No idea what that fag is about
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>>98318511
I think that's obviously not going to happen, but I can see something like kroak getting the kragnos treatment where lorewise he suffers some major defeat that ensures he is only able to materialize directly from time to time or something
Which I suppose is closer to how things were before
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>>98318498
Yeah, but he also knows that being dead is gay and retarded, so he just decides not to be dead when he feels like
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>>98318511
Arkhan has been falling in between realms for how long now? Its probably this kind of "death"
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>>98318558
I think he got brought back didn't he?
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>>98318558
I doubt it'll even be that serious, given that we're heading for a big timeskip that'll easily reset a bunch of characters statuses. Kroak might just sit out the end of edition campaign so the new guy can have his moment of glory and then pop back in post-timeskip.
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>>98318590
I'm not convinced the timeskip is gonna be terribly meaningful
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>>98318592
Everything we've heard about it makes it sound like nothing, yeah.
>Kragnos is free and doing stuff
>Tahlia is back, somehow
I see it as a reset of the status quo, in that GW literally wants it to be the new status quo going forward, and that means preserving as many character models as possible.
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>>98318612
That's my problem, if mortal characters are somehow still alive and status quo remains the same it's either like a 2 year timeskip or completely meaningless overall.
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>>98318612
I think it's mostly so they can set up the new status quo more easily, especially re:Cities (and stormcast)
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>>98316908
Man, I was disappointed in this kit.
It looked so cool in preview image, but having built it; it's smaller scale than the rest of the CoS range (so no head-swapping) and just lacks certain cool factor despite the dynamic pose. Meanwhile I was the apposite with the Amethyst Mage where I wasn't too wow'd by preview image, but fell in love with the sculpt as I build it.
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>>98318983
I just gave mine a beard and slightly snazzed up his staff and I think he looks a lot better.
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>>98318983
>it's smaller scale than the rest of the CoS range
Really? How odd.
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>>98318473
>tetas xi
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>>98319061
>>98319061
>>98319061
Freshly baked new
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>>98319004
A bearded old lady, huh...
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>>98318498
>>98318511
It might be a contingency thing

for example there's a group of slann called the extinctionists who are considering the possibility that all slann will end up dying by attrition before the great plan is fully realised, so they establish settlements and spawning pools so their lizardmen troops will be in the positions where their troops end up protecting the areas that need protecting or attack by instinct the nearby targets even in their absence, and completely without guidance

basically shifting from playing 4d chess to playing an autobattler
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>>98319067
>page 7
>88 images
we make new threads at page 8 or 150 images, not any sooner, we aren't that fast of a thread to need a new one this soon
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>>98319078
We've been dealing with a throoder lately.
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>>98313521
What a legend.
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>>98316705
There's that FEC RoR that's 3 Varanguard that got fully infected and transformed.



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