The weaknesses in Millennial design and concept art are quite obvious.It is a generation whose inspiration stems from *Warcraft*/*StarCraft*, *Overwatch*, and *League of Legends*, rather than from real-world elements.Pieces of hyper-detailed plastic that are not only tedious to paint to a decent standard but also result in units that are indistinguishable from one another on the tabletop.How do we fix this? Do Zoomers plan to change this, or will good taste die out with the Perry brothers—now relegated to the ostracized realm of historical wargaming?And no, it's not only a GW problem, most companies and 3d designs look like shit.
>>98307491>posts a pic of models with inspiration stemming from real-world elements
>>98307491Yeah, millenials are the strongest generation in history and have destroyed classic and immortal concepts by being cringe about it. You're so right.retard
Also it's literally just because plastic sculpting and 3D printing tech is as good as it's ever been. There will be a trend away from overdetailing once people are more used to the facility the tech allows. You are genuinely so fucking stupid to make this a generational thing.
>>98307496>>98307504You are retarded and everywhing you created is utter shit than won't be remembered in 10 years. Those are facts.
>>98307491I think the “less is more” rule needs to be enforced when it comes to 28mm scale models.Just because you can put a lot of details on models doesn’t mean you should. And just because plastic is a sturdy material doesn’t mean the model should look like it is a hamster’s yawn away from having bits fall off.
>>98307491>inspiration stems from overwatch>millenials
>>98307517Yes, OP is trying to troll but this is clearly the actual root cause. People will get better about this with time, and honestly you can go buy less detailed models right now they just aren't the GWslop everyone consumes and sees.
>>98307517Some people really think that the new chaos warriors are better than the storm of chaos ones.LOL. LMAO.
>>98307516>i have no individual thoughts of my one and just endlessly spam the same lines and images my favorite grifter filled my head withyou´re saying?
>>98307568Zoomers are the first generation on record to be less intelligent than their predecessors. This is why 4chan meme evolution stopped at wojaks.
>>98307491>or will good taste die out with the Perry brothers—now relegated to the ostracized realm of historical wargaming?When you grow older, you are supposed to migrate to historical wargaming yourself. It has always been that way. First you should get some WW2 miniatures, and once you hit 50, you should have found some niche in the history of mankind that is yours. And then you should build armies for that.
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>>98307491>And no, it's not only a GW problem, most companies and 3d designs look like shit.And that is where you, the customer, comes into play. You pick and choose your own miniatures. Who stops you from buying pic related zombies instead of the GW ones?
>>98307531I’m surprised “greebleslop” isn’t a term yet.So many models are overly detailed like they were meant for cgi for a movie or a 3d sculptor’s portfolio instead of being a 28mm mini meant to be painted.It is okay for detailing. There shouldn’t be detail added to the point where the stl model looks like 10 greeble details were crammed onto every polygon.
>>98307600Those look lovely and the rust effect looks really good.Best I can do is use a deviated rust paint or water rust colored paints into a wash consistency. Then water some more to be safe and apply.
>>98307516I'm a zoomzoom, thank you very much
>>98307565VGH... SOVL...
>>98307516>REEE I'M FROM /tv/ AND I THINK {age group} IS BAAAAAADGo back to your stupid fucking containment board you brainless inhuman retard.
>>98307565They're basically redesigned 5e warriors.
>>98307491I'm confused as to what these models are trying to convey.Is this some kind of burial rite where peasants will drive a stake through a coffin before burying it? Because if so, it clearly doesn't work.
>>98307618>modern minis are OVERDESIGNED! There's greebles EVERYWHERE! We need to retvrn to the earlier designs!>look at the earlier designs>greebles everywhere
>>98307516>MILLENIAL WRITING>look inside: The writer is either boomer or gen-xerEvery time.
>>98307632Stop making a fool out of yourself. The new warriors are totally fine.
>>98307632Not all details are greebles. Greebles are non-functioning details to add complexity. Segmented plates on parts that are suppose to flex, different types of maille, flutes, holes for venting, ribs, studs, etc. aren't necessarily greebling.
>>98307644One modern design element I could live without is that fucking trim with the little triangles sticking out of it. If they got rid of like 90% of that, I'd love modern Chaos models way more. Just make it a plain trim or remove it completely.
>>98307663This.Compare the new GW warrior with pic related for example.
>>98307516>millennial writing>posts a man born in 1971
>>98307691or this one.Sometimes, GW does garbage like in the OP, but sometimes their designs aren't that bad, when you compare it to other miniatures out there.
>>98307621Yes. Seems fairly straightforward to me.
>>98307618Loved this kit since the Paul Sawyer Lure of the Gods articles. New minis are a worthy tribute. Now give us the Juan Diaz Daemonettes in plastic.
>>98307701>Sometimes, GW does garbage like in the OPWhat's wrong with them? They seem alright to me for what they are
>>98307491>Millennials.What are the odds of OP actually is complaining about Gen Xers?
>>98307644Yeah, very good, dynamic poses like this look so good con closed formation regiments.Kill yourself, srsly.
>>98307733Why yes, they do.
>>98307723Hey, leave us out of this! We didn't do anything. Like, literally didn't do anything. Just a bunch of slackers slacking off.
>>98307600does the crow count as equipment?
>>98307643Don't worry, they'll be calling it 'Zoomer Writing' in another 5 years
>>98307825>Zoomer WritingWe already have a phrase for that: AI Slop.
>>98307643No it IS every time you just blame the oldest guy there for some reason or did literally no research who is on the writing team. Almost every time when I check its like a TEAM of millennials and one kindly old guy.
>>98307491What exactly is wrong with the guys on the picture?
>>98307565Still think its a shame we never get the cahos warriors in the style of the guy that comes on the chariot/Lord with the spear
>>98307565God I love giant setpieces like that.
>>98307491Nah. It's mostly boomers obsessed with whacky shit.
>>98307565Forget those, I want those state troopers.
>>983076185e warriors best warriors.
>>98310160I had a unit of 8 bronze-painted warriors back in 5e. Halberd and shield, chaos armor (wasn't automatic back then, dunno now).They were legendary. In one battle they went through Big'Uns then Black Orcs. In another they defeated the Har Ganneth Executioners and Black Guard. All units larger than then. White Lions and Swordmasters. Hammerers. In another they put down an High Elven griffin.They were strong and also always rolled above average.
>>98309983They're millenials, obviously.
>>98307491>Do Zoomers plan to change thisDefinitely not, judging by the past decade of media.
>>98307749These dudes look like the Fisher Price Knights I used to play with as a kid.
>>98307644Why is coloured armour so good? Really wish it was more common.
>>98307491>Millennials destroyed fantasy and sci-fi.Yes sir. You really did not need to post more than that.
>>98307491It's less of Millennial design and more of corpos only hiring furries and DEI/BRIDGE. Which is just full of TUMBLR AU OCs of Starcraft/Warcraft. (LOL is basically Warcraft but changed enough to not be sued.)
>>98307491How did this affect your last game?
GW used to hire history and folklore fantasy fans, now they hire Warhammer fans. GW is devouring itself.
>>98310160Let's just say they fit the rest of your army and the quality of your paint job.
>>98307491what's wrong with starcraft designs?
>>98307698Millennial is a mindset. You can be born in the 70s and still be a millennial.
>>98307644They're intentionally ugly in an attempt to crudely replicate technical limitations when there aren't any
>>98310116Zoomers are watching the clone wars? If it's the Genndy clone wars then maybe there is some hope for them after all.
>>98307878>one kindly old guyThe kindly old guy being the most senior member of the team and usually the decision maker.
>>98309990Fucker looks like straight from post-WotLK Warcraft.
>>98311106Nothing. OP is just a ginormous nigger cock sucking faggot.
>>98311245And that does make him look less cool?
>>98311058So why aren't you playing historicals, mister no models nigger?
>>98310979Yeah. The archetypical millennial is essentially a redditor or tumblrite. What's funny is that millennials also pushed hating those exact people through places like 4chan and agreed with the sparklewolves about the boomers. I think gen z is just looking for footing in an alienated world so they're basically aping that so they can grow their own thing.
>>98311328Literally this. We see a whole generation of (now) old guys, who somehow refuse to move on to historical games, like everyone else before them did. When you turn 40, you are supposed to find historical stuff more and more interesting. If you turn 50, and space marines are still more intriguing to you than painting Romans, Napoleonic french or Ww2 Germans, then there is something wrong with your brain.
>>98307600but who is producing a chaos warrior box replacement?
>>98311496Avatars of war
>>98307491>falling for the "everything is millennials fault" psyop
>>98311337The people that kept fun games going when they were good were in their 30s.
>>98307878>If only the boomer Tsar knew what his millennial boyars were doing...
>>98311087Thank you for the compliment!
>>98311631You're welcome champ
>>98307491>It is a generation whose inspiration stems from *Warcraft*/*StarCraft*, *Overwatch*, and *League of Legends*, rather than from real-world elementsLooks like it's time for another "absolute fucking mongoloid thinks he's trashing millennials while actually shitting on zoomies" thread.
>>98307565Because they are. There's a reason SoCsloppiers ended up being used as the design language for Smegmar chaos - it was always faggoty, like yourself.
>>98311245It's almost as if...Warcraft was meant to be a different game...based on a certain tabletop wargame...
>>98307491>reddit spacing>>98307516>Zoomer YouTuber memego back
>>98312223That is a myth.
>>98307643>>98307698/thread
>>98311058That's been the case since the OGs though
>>98307517>And just because plastic is a sturdy materiaI believe this is the actul root cause. GW is competing with resin printers, so they try to focus on their strenghts. They make models with details a plastic printer would have trouble replicating, with leverages and bits which would break easily in resin. Its a market thing, just as described by "How does digital piracy affect innovation? Evidence from software firms" by Wendy A. Bradley and Julian Kolev. GW must innovate in ways that differentiate against competing printers. reason they also are focusing on making recognizable factions and trademarkable names and models.
>>98307491>Pieces of hyper-detailed plastic that are not only tedious to paint to a decent standard but also result in units that are indistinguishable from one another on the tabletop.Skill issue
>>98307491No, the thing destroying fantasy and scifi is the noisy minority of closeted fags and edgy beta males who let their likes and dislikes be tied to perceptions of 'wokeness'.The death of fantasy and scifi is the percentage of people who would like OP pic if they were sculpted by a fit, attractive white male who posts pictures in a suit talking about Christian values, but would vocally hate them if they learned they were sculpted by a woman, a black, or a transexual.That's what destroyed fantasy and scifi.
>>98307491>crow with an eyeball in its beakIs that a reference to that one scene from the king arthur and the knights of the round table movie? It's been a long time and I don't recall the name but I remember being really disturbed by that scene as a kid.Anyway I really strongly disagree, I think detailed models are really fun. One of my favourite points is getting a model in my hands and noticing things that I would never have seen in the box art.
>>98321627I think it's just a reference to birds eating soft tissue from dead bodies, such as the eyes.
>>98321632Okay, but you saw the movie? It's the one and only time I recall seeing a crow eating that specific soft tissue area in my life, real or fictional.
>>98307577>Zoomers are the first generation on record to be less intelligent than their predecessorsWell yeah, school was still school and not "the information grift" when we went.
>>98307878>the head writer is boomer, but it's the damn millenials' fault, grr!
>>98321652School was always agitprop, friend. They just had made room left for learning how to multiply and do some household chores.
>>98307491>NOOOOOOOOO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE LE DARK AND LE GRITTY SO I CAN FEEL REPRESENTED BECAUSE I'M A MISERABLE DEPRESSED FAGGOT WITH NO FRIENDS!It's fine kiddo, one day you'll grow up and realize hopecore is based and edgeslop is cringe.
>>98311245First time seeing a chaos warrior?
>>98321639Now you've seen two.
>>98307565>He thinks plastic chaos warriors are good.Lol, lmao even.
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS BUILD MORE HOUSES FOR THE CHEAP LABOR YOU WANTED NOW YOUR KIDS RUIN YOUR LEGACY BOOMOID
>>98307516Yes yes, but have you considered that maybe you are a NIGGER? Soul food for thought.
>>98307491Doooood!!! But they're so dynamic!!! They're so detailed, more detail means more betterer!!! Dooooooooooooood!!!
>>98307491The only problem with these is that all of the models in the mob are this detailed instead of them being a one-off like a "standard bearer"It's actually quite clever and fun to have the anti-resurrection measures (locks, shackles, stakes) completely fail and be lugged around like they're nothing.
>>98307602I remember complaining about it with Warmachine first edition's Cygnar long-gunners and people on the forums telling me to STFU. Now everything is greebleslop and there's no one left to complain.
>>98307491Unfortunately zoomers are also inspired by Warcraft, OW and League. They also grew up with it as much as milennials did.t. old zoomer
