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>>98310195FUCK YOUITS AN ORK THREAD
What do Votann do with prisoners who aren't actually worth anything?
>>98310204fuck off
I love me imperial guard
>>98310211I love me orks :D
>>98310211why are those guardsmen 3' tall?
The great sin of the Inner Circle Companions is not accommodating a ranged build option.
>>98310204>fuck fuck fuckSlaanesh has won.
>>98310217they’re based on the old guardsman models please understand.
>>98310216I like Orks too! If I didn't buy a copious amount of IG plastic, Orks would be next on my list.
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>>98310204Debt slavery. They can sell their organs, they can sell their bodies, they work for their own ransom even if interest rates make it so they can never be free.
>>98310228poor hashutfag. his dreams of 40K hashut themed bits to use for CSM are quashed because chaos dwarves are mixed in with votann :(
>>98310204I imagine they'd just kill them and extract whatever resources their corpses could provide.
>>98310204They force them to code video games about them after Sony laid off most of their workers.
>>98310228>>98310241that period in mid 2022 when Chaos Dwarfs were rumoured for TWW was the best.>mixed in with votannThen it shouldn't be hard to kitbash a 'tainted' votann who makes 'wrong' kin.
>>98310228>tfw tusked Chaos squat gf
What is he watching?
Finished off my Lychguard.
>>98310196Le le ecks dee XDXD
>>98310259if someone photoshops this to be the ratfag’s ugly vtuber I’m going to be REALLY angry.
>>98310273I kneel…kino goff “flash” gitz btw
>>98310272cool scheme. anon
>>98310287I painted them a while ago, im starting to incorporate more colours into my army, just didn't think that very colourful flash gitz would suit a goffs army
>>98310204>Orks that lowOrks are a fucking menace. Just because they're goofy doesn't mean they aren't a galactic tier threat, and they're extremely hard to get rid of with their spores.
wolf helmets will ALWAYS be kino btw.
>>98310291Cheers, I've made mine a Sautekh client dynasty so they can be broadly similar to the official scheme, with some differences where I want them.
>tfw just boughteding another sekhmet coven for a 2nd MVB instead of just buying it separatei might need those extra 10 scarab terminators some day bros... COUGH COUGH..... just gotta find a list for them.... just gotta do a little kitbashing.........
>>98310313>console war bullshitkys immediately
>>98310313>>98310322Where do you think you are? You muppet. Go back to /v/.
>>98310204What about the reverse, where you capture the xenos alive?
>>98310327No xenos would be happy at being captured. Most would just get dissected by the Inquisition, the only one with a hope of talking their way out is Votann.
>>98310309>tfw buydedinged another Citadel™ Mouldline Remover™ for $27.00 plus tax plus VAT plus shipping plus handling plus tip plus legal donation to underage immigrant knife murderers
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98310339Is there a word bearers detachment?
>>98310333If Xenos were captured by Imperial Guard (not agents) and they could prove useful, they'd likely have the best chance of getting out alive, especially if they were dealing with another faction like NidsBut Marines and SoB would not take any xenos prisoner
>>98310339kill yourself
what color should I paint the wing membrane?
>>98310371Look at your favorite bats on google
>>98310371Would a dark red suit it? Green could go alright with the purple but could look shithouse if its too bright
>>98310371>purple chitin green would go well with it, I think.
>>98310309Everyone's using them in Hexwarp Thrallband right now, you can use a strategem to 6" deep strike them. Some people use 1, but I've seen people on tournament streams using 2. SoTs and Sekhetars are the new meta, and I don't think any amount of nerfing will change that. You play Hexwarp for 2DP and the Sekhetar detachment that makes their attacks psychic for 1DP. You basically get one Heroic Intervention and One Overwatch (with flamers,) for free every one of your opponents movement phases, and they have +1 to wound because they're psychic and attacking from the flow of magic zone.EVEN IF they go back and make Hexwarp Thrallband a 3DP to nerf this combo, I think people will stay play it with less Sekhetars and more Terminators, because TSons lend themselves well to Take and Hold, and you can put a LOT of psychic attacks into your list, plus psychic ignoring cover penalties and hit modifiers is just game changing. I don't think any TSons collector could go wrong having 30 Terminators battle ready for the whole edition.
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>>98310309Also to add to my post >>98310385You're getting another sprue of Exalted Sorcerers which is one of the best bits boxes for kitbashing. Get yourself some primaris terminators and use the Exalted bits to turn them into Sorcerers in Terminator Armor to lead your SoTs.
>>98310309Bro just play Rubricae Phalanx like me.
>>98310309i bingding the CP.....
Is there a nationality breakdown for the collage? I'm guessing its mostly burgers and brits, i know there's at least two Australians on it
>>98310348I can imagine some of the more reasonable marines taking Tau or Eldar prisoner. SoBs, though, unlikely.
>>98310390I knew I had a better one somewhere
>>98310412I don’t see how you’d be able to track that with people entering and leaving. you could request collageanon to maybe do a nationality check with the next entry, or there could be a theme for something like “paint your country”
>>98310019Hell yeahIt turns out that if i modify some of the weapons, I can add a full unit of vespid to this list. I regret being unable to get them painted for the quick and nimble collage but i have plans for some vespid.
>>98310381>>98310382just like a muted green?
what's the best nid colourscheme? custom is acceptable
>>98310466orange and teal
>>98310466I'd do this if I ever played 'Nids.
>>98310458no, more like a piccolo skin color.>>98310466green and purple.
>>98310466I like vampiric, dead grey with black carapace and blood red highlights. If nids ever get a detachment that lets them get a bonus for flying units, I'll be going all in on a vampire bug army. As many gargoyles and winged bugs that I can have.
>>98310490thanks doc
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>work tomorrowAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>98310466If I played nids I would paint Gorgon
>>98310417>>98310390>>98310195This makes me want to buy multiple land raiders right this minute.
What is it about the game in its current state that makes basic troop units like Intercessors not worth taking beyond a token unit for sticky objectives?I was thinking about older editions of Warhammer where building a list modelled after a Space Marine demi company of 30 tacs, some assault marines, and a dev squad was not only valid, it was pretty strong. I couldn't imagine it would be the same with 30 intercessors, feels like it would just be wasting points.
>>98310466Find a neat bug, copy it's color scheme
>>98310580They have no sauce, unlike their predecessors, the tactical squad. Aside from the sergeant that can have a variation of melee and pistol, and the 1-2 units that can have a grenade launcher attachment, the intercessor squad is good for nothing but sitting and focus firing on 1 enemy at a time. That's their entire schtick with their unit ability which lets you add another attack, thus doubling their bolt rifle attacks. They're not bad, but they are very selective in how you can use them to maximize their effect.But that is why you might not see them as a bulk of an army in the new editions, they don't get a slew of wargear to choose from anymore, they're a one trick pony now according to GW.
>>98310195I can't decide if I want to print some oldhammer models and paint them as crimson fists, or if I want to paint my modern marines are crimson fists.
>>98310344Nothing named after them, but there are some good thematic detachments for them like pact bound zealots, chaos cult, vets if long war, etc.
>>98310637I took all the marines from the box and put them with my unpainted vehicles, termies, and gravis armour shit, and I'm going to plan out a crimson fist army with them all. If it wasn't going to be a blood angels box, it fits just as well as a crimson fist box.
>>98310181>How was your 4th of July?I got Tendinitis in my shin and couldn't go to the park with the senpai for fireworks. I'm having to spend the weekend immobilizing.
>>98310580I played back in 4th and 5th edition and I do not remember anyone being excited to run lots of tactical marines.Force org chart made you run a bunch, and they were models that everyone had lying around. There were always cooler models that people wanted to run and tactical marines were the tax you had to pay to play the game. Outside of Marines other factions do run basic troops. But if they had the same volume of models and units that Marines do they probably wouldn't have to.
>>98310580welcome to the age of information. Everything is more competitive, and will only ever get more competitive. in a version of the game where 1 defiler can move through terrain and kill 2 c'tans per turn in overwatch with rerolls, how the fuck do you justify playing basic troops? when everything is more competitive, everything has to be ultra specialized.
>>98310580Base statlines were much more impactful in past editions. The BS 4 WS 4 S4 T4 3+ save of Space Marines was something other factions couldn't meet. They might have had a unit that met one of those stats, but not all of them. Because of it, old tactical marines used to be able to beat other battleline units in melee handily, and at least go toe to toe with some of the dedicated melee units of other factions before dying. It was very much viable to have a tactical squad fire off their bolt pistols and charge some Necron warriors, Eldar guardians, and hell even Ork boyz. That was the point of the tactical squad; A bit of something for all situations.Melee weapons also had less of a profile to them. The only difference between a tactical marine and a tactical marine with a chainsword was +1 attacks from having two one handed weapons. You already got an extra attack for charging, and winning a combat meant the enemy could be swept and killed in its entirety. In a pinch, you could melee vehicles to death too. All it took was one lucky hit with a krak grenade. An Intercessor squad might still be able to get into melee with some of these units, but the MOMENT they are touched by something that is a dedicated melee unit (Boyz, Ogryn, anything with damage 2 weapons) they are as good as lost. And even if they come out of a fight on top, they typically just don't have the attacks there to kill the unit in its entirety, and there is no sweeping advance to finishing them off either. And forget about using melee to destroy a vehicle. Simply put, there isn't the flexibility there to have them be a core part of an army. They're great at shooting, but will crumble when challenged.
Should I get a second riptide or 3 sunforge crisis?
Has anyone ever bought the previous plastic cadians off of WTG? I thought of doing it to buy alongside their vraks renegade militia upgrade to buy it all in one place but the plastic recasts have me worried
>>98310715I would say that was because, before 8th, the game was balanced around the normal human Guardsman as your baseline. WS3, BS3, S3, T3, I3, 1W, 1A, 5+ save. But then once Primaris Intercessors came out with 8th, they did decently at first, having that classic S4, T4 Marine statline now with 2 Wounds. But as more and more codexes came out, it was clear that the Intercessor went from being something exceptional, to being the baseline from which everything else would rise. Other than Guardsmen. They get to stay sucking.No longer was a faction's Marine Equivalent something elite, it became just their regular troops. And I feel that's the biggest error GW made. Making Marines not special. Also, Custodes shouldn't be in 40k. Space Marines should occupy the niche of being a small, elite army of hard bodies.
What does Ahriman and Fabius do in their respective omnibus books?
Do you guys think it's about time GW adds a brand new alien army into 40k? I want vampire count aliens.
I just got a 3d printer (so infinite bits) and I have a bunch of grey space marines sitting around. I figure I might as well go for a divergent chapter. Should I go Blood Angels, Dark Angels, or Black Templars?
>>98310787Space Yiffs.
>>98310795mmmm no
>>98310783They aren’t going to add an interesting vampire faction that outshines Blood Angels. So you are fucked if you want an actual vampire army with good lore in 40K unless you just make up your own army.
>>98310783I would paypig so hard for a 40k skaven army.Just make it so that they are weird rat men that live in the walls of space ships and shit
>>98310466I'm not at home to post the pic I usually do in this scenario but just imagine this post has an image of Perfect Cell attached to it.
I have pic related, any ideas what I could proxy it as?One day GW will add a support rhino (cope)
>>98310827A normal (useless) rhino.
>>98310531Yes, though that wasnt the actual intention when I came up with the idea. It just works so well I accept it.
>>98310832I genuinely did not even realize until a week ago that the Impulsor replaced the Rhino as the generic transport because nobody fucking uses an impulsor, it's all repulsors and land raiders
>>98310823I too was thinking of posting perfect cell as a reply but got too busy to do so
NO ONE WANTS TO FUCKING PAINT YELLOW. WHY?
>>98310851It's so dogshit, 7 carry capacity and limited to only tacticus or phobos. I use it for a captain and 6 blade guard, everyone I see that uses it also uses it for the same reason. It's just an awful vehicle.
>>98310715>In a pinch, you could melee vehicles to death too. All it took was one lucky hit with a krak grenade.Krak grenades were mediocre but could kill vehicles with poor rear armor (like the standard leman russ)Melta bombs were great though and were an option on some standard units like IG vet squads
>>98310866Of course melta bombs were better, but the point is tactical marines could do a bit of everything just with their base wargear and statline
>>98310783I'd like to see them finally tackle hrud. Bendy hrud, not space skaven hrud.
>>98310876Never happening
>>98310764having "normal" infantry squads with multiple wounds was a mistake, going all the way back to grey knight paladins and their wound allocation shenanigansI think custodes were the point of no return though
>>98310783>want vampire count aliensDark Eldar are the 40k space vampires
>>98310783I'd instantly start a Khrave army if they made them and they stayed true to this look.
I'm about to green stuff fill some gaps. I really wanted a spiky Warboss and to use this mask from a defiler. I'm having trouble figuring which clan Kultur I should paint him up as.My Orks are all a mix of various clans, and I'm trying to arrange them so that I field various mobs of twenty of the same clan / color. I've got Ghazghkull leading a Mob in black. Ufthak leading a Bad Moonz squad of Shoota Boyz in yellow. I've got an Evil Sunz squad with a choice of two old Warbosses. So now I'm figuring which clan to have for this one. I've got another bog standard Choppa Warboss from Armageddon and I bought one more so I could get to kitbashing without worrying about ruining a model, plus Plastic Warbosses having a fleeting cheap. I was figuring I'd paint the bog standard one as Deathskulls (plus I have another Deathskulls warboss) so that leaves me with:Two Goff Warbosses (Ghazghkull and Grukk Da Face Rippa)Three Snakebite Bosses (Mozrog, Beastboss, Zodgrod)One Bad Moons Warboss (Ufthak)Two Deathskulls Warbosses (A Mega Armoured One, one from Assault on Black Reach)Four Evil Sunz Bosses (Two Warbosses, One Biker Boss, one Wartrike)So naturally, this one should be painted as either a Freebooter Warboss (I have Kaptin Badrukk), or a Blood Axe One, but I don't think it matches a blood axe vibe. What do you think? Should I paint this one as a Deathskull, Blood Axe, Freebooter, or something else?
>>98310580They take up a lot of space, and between them and phobos units that can scout or infiltrate, and more heavy elite units that can sit on a point better. I just don't have room for them, nevermind the points, I don't have space on the board to put them without jamming everything up. You'd run into the same problem trying to run 30+ Legionaries in CSM. You're better off running 5 or 10, and then having some chosen and red corsairs mixed in, nevermind all the damned units you have to choose from too.
>>98310859Because it requires the most work to make good?
green looks ok, I'm not 100% sold on it but I can't think of another alternative
>>98310973I see a lot of people say "prime white, undershade pink, speed paint yellow" but is there a way to undershade the pink without an airbrush?
>>98310783we're very overdue, but i think it would be better for them to add something new new, like tau was when came out, rather than "X fantasy thing but in space"
>>98310783I don't want any new armies if they're gonna do what they did to world eaters and emperor's children, aka "release 6 new units and call it a day"
>>98310195based
>>98311026regardless of the color scheme, I think you did a good job technically on the wing-skin. Looks dope.
>>98310622>>98310706>>98310715>>98310764Lmao lets not pretend previous editions were not MSU tacticals (or even just scouts when they count as troops) just to validate the detachment quotas.
What do Sisters think of:>Imperial Guard>Abhumans>Space Marines>Adeptus Mechanicus>Adeptus Custodes>Robby and Lion El'Johnson>Votann
>>98311099read a book
>>98311070thanks anonI wish I had a larger brush that could keep its point, would've made it look a lot cleanerpinkish red might work better but I'm not sure how many times I want to repaint the wings
>>98310859i do
>>98310851I can't even remember the last time I've seen a loyalist marine player take a dedicated transport. CSM and the cult legions still use em because they don't really have a choice, but I see more marine players footslog their guys or deepstrike in jump infantry or terminators. Hell, last time I saw a land raider the guy didn't even put anything in it, he just ran it for the lascannons and the hull.
>>98311099>Not zealous enough but at least they're pointed in the right direction except for those times when they aren't.>Kill.>Technically they're abhumans and apostates but they're the Emperor's chosen abhumans and apostates and they kill a lot of aliens and heretics so I guess they're alright? Maybe?>It's cute that they call him the "Omnissiah", less cute that they start pretending he isn't the Omnissiah as soon as you turn your back.>I miss when we guarded the Emperor... not those faggot-ass golden boys who spent 10k years jerking off.>The Emperor's sons are back and of all fucking things they're bitching that we treat the Emperor like a god just because he's constantly performing divine interventions on our behalf. How did the God-Emperor himself create such retarded spawn?>Kill.
>>98311033You could probably do it by priming pink first and then doing a heavy white zenithal over that, but that might require some testing to make sure it looks right.
>>98311111I like to just drop things in krita and screw around with the colors to see how they'd look
>>98311141I don't remember the paragon warsuits having that helmet?
>>98311111fucking sick quints anonalso whats that color tool/website called? It looks very useful
>>98311033>>98311143I recently tried doing zenithal with a spray can and I can tell you for sure it doesn't work at all as a base for a speedpaint, you don't have the precision of an airbrush, you end up with white dots all over the places you don't want them to be. Best it does is just give you a vague idea where the shadows would fall. Which you can achieve by taking a photo of a model under direct light and then flipping it to greyscale.What I would do is priming white/light grey and just painting pink into areas that are supposed to be darker by hand. Yellow speedpaint will naturally pool into recesses and make them even darker too.
>>98311161Or, you wanna go full speedpaint, just prime pink and do a heavy drybrush of white.
>>98311159Yeah I'm looking around for a Paragon design that doesn't have the baby carrier thing going on and this is one of the better redesigns I found. I think it's neat.
>>98311159It's a Mortifier Sarcophagus >>98311099>Adeptus MechanicusPerfectly normal Imperial Citizens, as human as you and me.>>Adeptus CustodesHoly Envoys of the Emperor bringing his word>Space Marines>Robby and Lion El'JohnsonTolerated Heretics>Abhumans>VotannSuffer Not means Suffer Not, I don't know why you have to ask twice.
>>98310674dude. 6 5-man LasPlas Tacs in 6 LasPlas Razorbacks.
In this map, is the Tau Empire supposed to be the tiny hexagon, or the larger square around it, or what?
>>98311153yeah I've played around in photoshop but I can't find anything that actually jumps out at me>>98311160didn't even notice the digitshttps://www.sessions.edu/color-calculator/
I have about 5000 points of my favorite army, the faction I think is coolest that has cool models. I almost just bought like 3000 points of marines before I stopped myself, because they have significantly better rules than my main army and I kept getting jealous. Thankfully, I realized that I probably wouldn't stick with painting and hobbying with those marines since they're not the faction I love, they're just the pushed faction that is favored with so many rules, models, options, better versions of rules, etc. I almost fell for the oldest trick in the book, and I'm certain that this accounts for a reasonable portion of marine's sales. We're at the point where it's impossible to tell if marines are pushed because they're popular, or they're popular because they're pushed. We're at the point where even if GW were to make boxes with no marines, people would know that marines are still the favorite child that will receive an equal-attention cake next month, so pushing non-marine products won't even work at this point.
>>98311181the hexagon
>>98311181>Votann are noted for fighting orks a lot>Literally zero major ork presence near the galactic core???
>>98311198If the Tau Empire is so fucking tiny, why do they have such a presence in galactic affairs, and so much lore?
>>98311191GW is ass at balance, so it can be helpful to have 2 armies in case one ends up stuck with some bad design or in a broken state for an extended period of time (i shelfed my GSC for 10th after their 4th rewrite of their army rule, got sick of relearning the army every time i played)that said if you're gonna spend $800 on a warhammer army it absolutely must be one you aesthetically and thematically vibe with, not just one thats strong in the meta at the moment. metas can come and go 10 times before you finish actually painting a full 2k pts. but a good collection of models can last you 20+ years
>>98311099depends on the order.>Space Marines>Adeptus Mechanicus>Robby and Lion El'Johnsonbut in general there isn't enough sisters turning on their allies for the 'heresy' of not worshiping the emprah or venerating him as a god.also blaming the astartes and primarchs for the horus heresy.
>>98311205they don't have a big presence in the galaxy at large, their influence is almost exclusively around that small partthe point of the tau is to be an example of a smaller alien race the imperium has to contend with, and since it's given a full model range its importance is brought to its extreme within the example's confines:-despite being in a small area of space, that area is dense or habitable planetary systems-despite being a relatively small empire, they're extremely good at defending their positions-despite being young, they are growing at an exponential rate and are set to be the next galactic power after mankind falls, just like mankind stepped up after the fall of the eldar
>>98311215Are there going to be Orders that are like "eh okay just sort of ignore or ally with the reasonable xenos so we can focus on Chaos," or is that too much for the Sisters?
>>98311232too much, that's something you get out of the guard or marines, not the ecclesiarchy
>That moment when you realize the only difference between chaos space marines and normal space marines is which godlike warp entity they worship.
>>98310273That ork has his fire cape, I wouldn't mess with him
>>98311240And the spikesThe flayed skinThe one eats babies and one don'tThat one takes daemon jizz up their ass while the other doesn'tThere are plenty of differences.
>>98311240most space marine chapters do not worship the emperor as a god.
>>98311275>most space marine chapters do not worship the emperor as a god.
>>98310580tactical squads were flexible with avariety of special and heavy weapons choices, a sergeant who could be tooled for close combat with enough bodies to protect him until he fought and ability to split into combat squads on deployment. That was their thing, a generalist tool unit that was decent at most things and always able to contribute something.intercessors are generic guys with above average guns only good against light to medium infantry at mid ranges and being cheap OC battleline.
>>98311286Most space marine chapters do not worship the emperor as a god. The few that do are exceptions.
>>98311275>>98311292nulore, ignore
>>98311292This. And even ones that do, don't do it the way the Ecclesiarchy wants them to, because the Imperial Cult predates the Ecclesiarchy. They merely rose among the cults and declared themselves the only real religion way after the Heresy.
>>98311286Fuck off ADB
>>98311311It's not even nulore, it's old lore.Marines who worship the Emperor as a god are the Black Templars, Red Scorpions, etc.And those have always been the minority and the exception.
Taufags really think life is better under their blue overlords, lmao
>>98311345Because it is?
>>98311345stay on twitter sucking your tranny boyfriend's cock, bohemond
>>98311345But life is better, and while he's right that guevesa don't simply get fire warrior equipment, they still can get improved equipment or equipment produced by the tau.He's just mad the setting is more nuanced than some HFY meme.
>>98311345It's really funny watching imperiumfags get unreasonably butthurt that their "most bloody and cruel regime imaginable" is actually bloody and cruel and evil.
>>98311355the best was black templarfags getting assblasted over the fluff of them abusing their navigators and grimaldus murdering his own mortal assistants to kill a few traitors on his ship
I hated 10th and it doesn't look like 11th is going to change any of the major things I didn't like about it. will the 10th-11th paradigm only last 2 editions like 8th-9th or will we be stuck with it for a long time like 3rd-7th?
>>98310580150 points for 40 bolt rifle shots is pretty efficient. They suffer for battleline not being significant at all in 10th/11th outside the Bastion detachment (where 30 intercessors would be good). It's not problem to pick Sternguard to do the same thing better, or phobos marines for basic shooting plus a gimmick.I like that marine armies aren't so boring now. One man's goofy shit unit is another man's goofy treasure.
>>98311357ok
>>98310195boring fagsThey have no flavor nor personalityEven more boring Imperial Fists with a worse color scheme than UltramarinesAll they have going on for them is LatinX representation
>>98311372(you)
>>98310466check the 3e and 4e tyranid codexes
>>98310204>If I kill myself now, they loseno, they don't. Deldar can and will revive you just to torture you more. There is no escape>Orks and Admechfate worse than death as well, Orks will torture and enslave you, admech will turn you into "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" monstrosityretarded picture in general
>>98311345>Meanwhile, at GW...
>>98311378There is no bait hereCrimson fists are utterly boring faggots with zero flavor. Generic marines, but with shit color scheme and latinx pandering. That's it, that's what they always were. All their fame is utterly unwarranted. Ultras replacing them was the best thing that could happen
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>>98311386(you)
why are Tau so cool?
>>98311391>Pedro Pascal is their chapter master>Generic marines were showcased in their colors in first scenarioThis is all they have going on for them, there is nothing else. Imperial Fists at least are autistic and eat shit
>>98310783You could have a brand new space vampire army in a few kits>HQs (Vampires)>Zombies/ghouls kit>Mind control upgrade kits (head/arm swaps for cadians, space marines, orks, etc.)Add a flight capable model for the big centerpiece thing if you must.
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>>98311395(you)
>>98310787Why not all three? It's normal for marines to send demi-companies to a warzone and then for that demi-company to be split to operate in the warzone. Marine soup. Marine Soup. Marine soup.
>>98311345brown hands posted this
>>98310783Deldar exist.>>98311396If you want mind control factions then enslavers would be the natural choice.
>>98311400justify your position>no unique units>no flavor to justify any converting or using bits to make them stand out, literal zero hobbying aspect>color scheme is just drowning them in blue, not even cool trim like ultrasIt's an utterly garbage chapter and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>98311409(you)
>>98311411
>>98311409>engage with my shitty baitnah
>>98311423>if you don't dicksuck everything brainlessly it's a baitCrimson fists have zero flavor, their fame is a baseless nostalgiafaggotry and in reddit's case hyping up latinx representation (they suck at anyway) and that's it
>>98311409They hated you for you told them the truth.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
I hate painting yellow so i'm going with Subjugators, green looks nicer than dark blue and is easier to paint.
You know it's shit bait when they say latinx and not just spic or just spanish
>>98311428yes keep doubling down, it's hilarious every time
>>98311431for me, it's the Sons of Medusa
>>98311394They were made in that narrow period between cassette futurism and the explosion of neons in sci fi, so they end up looking sleek and advanced but grounded in recognisably practical forms without too much pointless noise. You don't get much of that unless you go with some 80-90s sci fi anime.
>>98311434seethe
>>98311394titties
>>98311428I think an asymmetrically colored arm is all the flavor a marine faction needs.
More like Fart Smelldar.
>>98311430man you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel now huh
I fucked up the decal on this guy’s shoulder. I tried to fill in the spots where the wrinkles tore with brown paint but it looks odd. I keep putting micro sol on it to remove it but nothing works. Any tips? I want the decal to be clean and smooth. >>98310272Lookin good
Desert marines I mentioned on here the other week still in an awkward prototyping phase.
>>98311456Do they refuse deployments if there isn't enough sand on a planet? or do they bring their own buckets of sand to make their sandcastles?
>>98311456the desert belongs to shai-hulud outworlder
>>98311435Nice Salamanders veterans
>>98311463doesn't your bald head get sunburned?
>>98311439>>98311441both arguments make sense
>>98310466the one I paint
>>98311461boots full of sand so they are always sanding in a desert their chapter curse is the Achilles heel, if you cut the heel all the sand falls out and they have a meltdown
>>98311497>I must not hate sand.>Sand is the coarse killer.>Sand is the little-death that irritates into total obliteration.>I will wear my sands.>I will permit them to pass over me and get everywhere.>And when it has flowed past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path.>Where the sand has gone there will be nothing rough. Only I will remain."
>>98311456Hey look it's Abaddon
Ogryn space marine, but it's just an ogryn wearing crudely made armor and haphazardly painted.
>playing new darktide class>really want to buy some skittles nowFucking multimedia marketing man
>>98311578to be fair the models are lovely
>>98311582these guys, the tech priests, the onager and especially the kastelan robots have been tempting me for years but thankfully I've been able to resist
>>98310929Excellent work anon, I am enjoying these warboss conversions anons have started to post here.Of those 3 options Id probably say freebooter, Id personally give a deffskull boss a very obviously looted gun or a peaked cap to a bloodaxe
>>98311582They are, and I also own some 30K mech but sadly I can't use those in 40k or the other way around. Still, I might get the CP, the units in it are real neat.
how many boyz is enough for a greentide list? is 60 enough or do i need more?
>>9831159660 boys seems more like a green wave, rather than a green tide
>>98310929he could be a chaos ork freebooter? between the spikes, the defiler helmet, and one of the options being a freebooter it would make the most sense.>>98311591speaking of warbosses, I had a nightmare last night of me washing my minis in the sink with soap and a sponge, and the eagle snapped off my warboss’ helmet, and I couldn’t find it. I have no idea what it means, but I’m scared.
>>98310204>Sisters>Not too badIf you want to become and Arco-Flagellant, sure.
>>98311596nice green ripple you have there
>>98311356>black templarfags getting assblastedIs that not their natural state of being?
>>98311614>he could be a chaos ork freebooter?Wouldn't even need to go that deep imo, could just be as simple as he and his lads krumped a spikyboyz fing after it ripped up loads of the boyz, and he thought his hat looked ded ard so he stole it
>>98310466I like Hive Fleet Crackhead!I mean Kraken. Fuck.
Wish bladeguard sergeants had more weapon options. I'd love a thunder hammer so they can bite into terminators.
>>98310622>Aside from the sergeant that can have a variation of melee and pistolAnd since there's no wargear costs, the only actual option is fist + plasma.
>>98311076Let's stop pretending 6 man tac squads with double melta or lasplas inside rhinos or razorbacks weren't a thing for a decade.
>>98311596for a proper greentide, your list should look like1 warboss6x20 boyz 6x20 beast snagga boyzanything less than that is a green splash
>>98310764Marines need to go back to 1W.
>>983110762x 6 man tactical squads as a base for the average space marine army is the gold standard. The fact that people only take a single 5man intercessor squad purely because of obsec is a symptom of shit rules design.
>>98311655This. The primarisissies and zoomers who started in 8th/9th/10th will hate you for pointing this out.
>>98311655Intercessors aren't meant to be tacticals. It's not bad rules design that they're not used the same way as the dark ages of force org and only 3 plastic infantry kits.
ok but seriously when is this coming out
>>98311660This makes no sense. They are supposed to fill the same niche. They are just more boring and people don't wanna use it except for obsec. That's not how you design a unit.
>>98311665Boy you want your beast snaggas so badly you can walk into your closest gaming store and get them.
>>98311668I assume he wants the cool ass dinosaurs instead.
>>98311665I am still annoyed that about the sniggers. Hopefully in a couple of years time they'll follow the Corsair pattern and do an expanded Exodite subrange with a corresponding battle force.
>>98311651I think marines going to 2W was probably the critical turning point where the damage/defense inflation race started spiraling out of control and has never really slowed down since.
>>98311666Tactical squads used to fill the niche of "you have to take this boring unit to play with your fun models" and "this kit is cheap and plentiful so you might as well run a bunch of them"Intercessors just barely go into that niche. They are "you want a sticky objective unit because the game isn't pitched battle annihilation anymore"
>>98311665Mount the Orks on the Dinosaurs instead and throw away the elves. Keep the Squigs as cattle to be driven by the Ork Dino cowboys.
>>98310466This one
>>98311674You guys keep repeating this as if rhino rushes were never a thing. Tac squads were a unit worth bringing for themselves, not because of a gimmick rule.
>>98311672Yep. 30k 3.0 also added damage as a stat but it had the decency of keeping wound counts normal so this wound and damage creep that plagues 40k didn't happen.
>>98311670that would be a weird choice for him considering there’s only 3 dinosaurs (plus 2 little drakes) compared to the 15 beast snaggas. I’ll personally be picking it up when it comes out to add to my beast snagga force, and using those random exodites as conversion fodder.
>>98311651marines need to be condensed into a singular codex because they're all effectively the exact same army with only 3 unique units that set them apart from eachother.
>>98311026its good anon, thats the way i paint my wings, gives it a grimy look
>>98310466There's no one best scheme because you can do different things with nids:You can use natural colors and patterns that blend into an organic environment or unnatural schemes that highlight the fact they're aliens with biotechnology.You can reference one of the many iconic monsters in media or stick to something that was part of this setting.You can have schemes that are good because you put lot of effort in every model or schemes that are good because you can achieve a satisfying result with little effort.What do you want your nids to be and do?
>>98311682I wish GW actually learned things from their experiments in their other games and applied them to 40k. But 40k feels like it's always designed in a complete vacuum and only brings in stuff from AoS or HH years after it would have been helpful or relevant.
>>98311689Oh they do learn. Everything that has gotten worse in 40k has come directly from AoS.
>>98311666The same niche no longer exists. Space Marines were originally a generalist army with elite infantry who could more or less handle any challenge with a basic loadout. Tactical squads making up the core was appropriate, they were one of the few plastic kits available. The rules demanded their inclusion, players weren't incentivised except by author decree that they must be used.Now obviously the game is way more popular and Space Marines have dozens of kits. The faction is now nearly as specialised as Eldar were, and much less elite relative to many others. Intercessors are a basic marine, but not a core unit choice. Players are expected to make their armies exploring a wide range of strategies and troop types, rather than the cookie cutter shit from 3rd/4th/5th (which you can still do if you want and is actually pretty good in Bastion).
>>98311691Funny, /aosg/ says everything bad about their game comes from 40k.
>have one last epic game in 10tth weeks ago>prepare lists >realize i have 40k fatigue >hear 11th is better and fun>all the detachments i wanted to play are disruption>hear disruption is the one formation that gets raped by the rules for some reason What do? Should I just shove my minis up my ass?
>>98311665>cool eldar and eldar terrain>fucking sniggers you'll never be able to sellFUCK
>>98311689All versions of 40k from 8th onwards were derivative of first GHB AoS. 8th edition was almost exactly that but with strength and toughness values.
>>98311695turning half your human factions into overweight black womyn didn't come from 40k thoughbeit
>>98311697The detachment limitations are annoying. I play one of the few Factions that doesn't actually want to play Purge the Foe and literally 4 of my Detachments are locked to it, making multiple combinations completely unplayable.
>>98311700It happens to both. They just can't actually do it with half the 40K factions
>>98311697Why not try a game for yourself before kvetching, damn polack
>>98311693This is retarded becaue 30k has the same unit philosophy as primaris and tacticals are must include in almost every list.
>>98311683SEND ME THE DINOS
>>98311698The terrain isn't in the box, fyi
>>98311642what the size like for these guys?viable genestealer proxy or do you have to push for it to be a broodlord?
>>98311704Don't be so antisemitic.
>>98311700It definitely did.
>>98311698>and eldar terrainanon...
>>98311665literal perfect time to update tyranid warriors/shrikes with a kill team and make it a kino box
>>98311707>>98311715I was wondering why they didn't show them at al.Well then there's really no reason to not just wait for the standalone box, which might genuinely be a long time.
>>98311273>And the spikesbut enough about space wolves>The flayed skinbut enough about.... uhh..... yeah you got me there>The one eats babies and one don'tbut enough about salamanders>That one takes daemon jizz up their ass while the other doesn'tbut enough about geneseed
>>98311715>>98311707Are you fucking serious?Can't we get one fucking terrain piece that's not Imperium architecture or Ork scrap heaps? They just did it for Necrons and almost did it for Tyranids once.
>>98311693Anon I don't think 2x5 basic marines being a solid core that can work in most armies to hold objectives is that big of an ask.
do any of you ork bros actually paint the skin by layering several greens? it must be a mission trying to paint so many boyz that way
>>98311721ANONYOU ARE GOING TO EAT YOUR IMPERIAL RUINS TERRAIN PIECES AND YOU ARE GONNA LIKE IT
>people can play ctan spam as reconforce dispositions were a mistake.
>>98311721So make some terrain? No one is spending 500 bucks in GW plastic terrain for a full board.
>>98311721>no more ork scrap heapsnot even a rerelease of the octarius terrain?
>>98311670ngl I'm here for the Exodites but the Beast Snaggas are pretty sick too. This box is a great excuse to try my hand at some Monster Hunter Orks.If the box is cheaper than buying the models separately, I'll get two.
>>98311743That box is gonna get scalped like fucking crazy for sure so you better jump on it quick when you can then.
>>98311721>>98311734you will fight amongst the ruins of the imperium or ork ghettos and you will like it
>>98311734i do agree with this being great terrain but i feel like ive seen this in a few too many threads recently
>>98311760>you will fight amongst … ork ghettos and you will like itthat’s exactly what I want.JAMES! RELEASE THE OCTARIUS TERRAIN AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
Finished my first armageddon unit
>>98311773the bases look really good
>>98311751yeah. Fuck, I should have gone all in on Kroot, That box was so easy to get.
>>98311773your paint scheme depresses me for some reason, anon
>>98311773They're not finished though. You need to highlight those edges.
>>98311708Somewhat larger than the old kit. But it's manly the elongated limbs, tall spine and 40mm base.Older kits just cover the same area, but stick out more, because of the smaller base.I would use them as Von Ryan's Leapers.
>>98311773Something is wrong with your lights or your camera. Or both. There are barely any highlights visible.
>>98311751Is it though? Some people are rabid about Exodites but the Ork models are a lot of price padding and Eldar players are notoriously patient about waiting for individual box releases.
>>98311793probably because the colors look really flat
>>98311751dunno about that one but in saying that ive been seeing squighog boyz in a few ork lists so far so an eldar collector wouldnt have any issue selling them
>>98311770if you’re only talking about /40kg/, then all of those posts you’ve seen have been from me I don’t even play the game, I just want a little orktown for my boys :(
>>98311721Okay!
>>98311852The pricing on these was what made them unappealing way more than the designs
>>98311840Even GW has issues selling them, that's why they're padding the exodite box with them.
>>98311721Honestly if you want just generic forest/plant life scenery just get some aquarium decorations.
>>98311861they are shitty aos looking transplants and as a new ork player with the 11th starter I won't be buying a single one for my army not even if they are meta fuck GW and fuck sniggas
>>98311852They were so preoccuiped with making the terrain look different they forgot to make it look good!
>>98311872the bits with the ruins look good
Yeah I'm an Eldar chad. Craftworlds, Corsairs, Deldar, Clowns, Exodites. You name it, I play it.
>>98311883play ynnariNOW
>>98311883Show me your strongest discontinued forgeworld thing.
>>98311773>>98311793>>98311801just a light drybrush along the top edges would make those models look fantastic.
>>98311888NTA but the Tantalus is a personal favorite.
>>98311903I wish I got one of these while they were available. Unfortunately I can’t find any good scans
>>98311921There are several good recasters who still offer it, though obviously you won't get the brass plate deck that the original cones with. Even the original kit was prone to warping and bending though so expect to have to do some repair work on the sail and the fins regardless.
>>98311888you can't handle his strongest discontinued forgeworld thing. it's not fit for a grog, let alone an anon.
>>98311705>30k has the same unit philosophy as primarisnah lol
>>98311773I'm glad you fixed the arm on the sgt
>>98311937Eldar player. I am going into battle, and I require your strongest discontinued forgeworld model.
>>98311697Tyranids in Disruption have been doing very well. It's generally pretty easy to cap primary in 11th, best vs worst isn't as big a deal as some people make it out to be. A few missions probably need tweaking, but shouldn't stop you running a detachment you know to start.
They just had to make it all about the Ultramarines, even photoshoped them over the angels LMFAO!
>>98311967Gonna cry?
>>98311967the armageddon box is for nostalgiafagging grogsthe starter set is for space marine 2 newfags
Logically, if Orks get a reveal today over Space Marines, then we know Deathmire is rigged, right? Nobody has any incentive to report their results honestly, so it's actually just a popularity contest, and Marines won the first week so unless enouhh Marine players just decide to stop voting, they'll get reveals first every week. But if GW wants to maintain hype overall they'll try and evenly distribute the reveals, so they would fake the results and say Orks won.
>>98311980you must be that same idiot who thinks nids are more popular than marines because of that leviathan vote even though half the space marine community said they'd vote for nids to fuck with GW and to see what happens
>>98311967who actually cares though?no one complained that the orks are goffs again or the nids are leviathan againits a picture on a box that you throw away
>>98311980Never underestimate how much spite there is in the community as a whole against Space Marines. And Ultramarines in particular.
>>98311986all orks look the same to me
>>98311984We actually have the numbers for all 11th games so far and Tyranids are close to the top but space marines are far ahead of the rest of the pack. Especially if you add in divergent Codexes
>>98311991Whoops, wrong chart.
These guys would probably make for good Fallen with very little conversion work needed.
>>98311999I think so too.
>>98311999They work as a lot of things, pretty sure someone painted them as Space Wolves in another thread.
>>98311986>no one complained that the orks are goffs again or the nids are leviathan againwe did discuss how it was lame that nids were leviathan againgw had a nice thing going where they introduced a new big fleet with each new tyrannic war and leviathan would have had rather big (if disappointing) fitting conclusions with the invasion of baal and the victory at octariusplus hive fleet typhon was an instant fan favourite the moment its scheme was shown, they should have totally made the 4th tyrannic war about them
>>98311999Yeah, it's silly that gw marketed these exclusively as red corsairs when they could have named them something more generic like "renegade marines" and encouraged people to get them for other legions and warbands too.>but anon you can do thatthe average 40kfag can't, it's painful to watch them butt into invisible walls like these
>>98311971sm2 newfags all play black templarsthey say shit like "can't wait for the psyker class, mine will be a black templar!"
>>98312004This. They work great as 13th cie space wolves
>>98312017>they say shit like "can't wait for the psyker class, mine will be a black templar!"KWAB
>>98312008I legit think they chickened out on showing a complicated paint scheme too prominently for an introductory product and switched from Typhon to Leviathan early on but showed off all their concepts anyway since they had painted so many test models in it. They have made that mistake before showing stupid complex paint jobs on box art and scaring off people from even trying to paint them (Harlequins), because lots of people like to paint stuff like the box art.
>>98311971>nostalgiawank>for grogsHow do you call nostalgia for a time people never lived through?
>>98312017>can't wait for the psyker class, mine will be a black templar
>>98312023But enough about you.
>>98311988let me guess, you also have trouble understanding the difference between a boltgun and a bolt rifle?
>>98312022Maybe, but it's not the first time they show different levels of complexity for the same scheme.The typhon scheme they used for the raveners for example was already simplified, with the blue-white gradients basically removed by color coding the forearms and tail separately from the ribs and rest of the arm, and even the gradient on the head can be neatly isolated with a mostly red-violet head and just the jaw in white.If I have to believe anything, more than them being afraid of introducing a more complex scheme, they just didn't want to bother painting the entire range again at the heavy metal standrd in a new colour scheme for photoshoots.
>>98312026Just give BTs non-Librarian psykers that don't believe they're psykers like the Rune Priests for Space Wolves. Call them Witchers or something and they're just specially trained and modified to hunt Witches and deny the Witch by unbinding their sorceries.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/25o4kiij/the-siege-of-death-mire-week-2-results/
>>98312043okwhy?
>>98312027>ask genuine question>NO UAh, didn't think you were just unironically shitposting.
>>98312043oh wow another overdesigned ultramarines character... how exciting
>>98312043...Did GW fuck up and report a Space Marine win when their own chart shows an Ork win?
>>98312043Wow, nothing.
>>98312043Is that the Black Lion of Ultramar?
>armed with a pair of weapons called Severance and Rebuke, this grizzled blademasterMaximum Drizzt-level cringe.
>>98312043blood angel niggas really thought they were the main character this edition lmao
>>98312043This is a kitbash, right?This isn't a fucking kit, right?>you need to understand, plastic injection moulds are expensive...>MORE OVERPRICED CHARACTERS>battle for armageddon>ultramarine characterI am going insane, what the fuck is wrong with games workshop
>>98312043Not even a generic character for all chapters to use but another ultramarine named one LMAO
>>98312043Space marine fans voted for this shit lmao. Can we all start voting for orks so we can get a good reveal next week?
>>98312059>>98312051Ultramad
>>98312043This is the final boss of CAD monkey copy-pasting
>>98312043OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>98312043>he's so epic and he's best mates with calgar and calgar is really epicbeyond parody
>>98312043I mean it's definitely a space marine
>>98312043Can they just make Codex Ultramarines their own divergent chapter thing yet? I'm tired of having the space marines codex balanced around playing fucking Ultramarines or suffering without access to all their pushed as fuck units.
>>98312043is this a parody of the black lion of maccrage? or just the template OC donut steel marine converge into?
>>98312043Ultramarines look so kino.
>>98312097Every day we grow close to the madman getting his OC added to the canon. He just needs to commission a few more art pieces. Just a few more. That'll do it for sure.
>>98312043Space Marines were a mistake
>>98312094>Can they just make Codex Ultramarines their own divergent chapter thing yet?No, because they're the poster boys and you can't tell the newcoming little timmy, or rather his mom, that they need both the rulebook, and the codex, and the supplementat best you'll get the basic codex renamed codex: ultramarines, and every other chapter will be supplements of codex Ultramarines
What a dogshit reveal, I have no hopes for further marine reveals, they will rape the ravenwing
>>98312043did the Victrix guard really need a named charecter?
>>98312043I don’t care if space marines pay for the other sculpts to be made but why are the 40K designers stuck in the dark ages, every release is so paint by numbers
>>98312052Hah, they knew they fucked up because they already changed it.
>>98312126>did the Victrix guard really need a named charecter?They already have one: Cato Sicarius is captain of the Victrix guard.
>>98312134Should have modelled him wearing the helmet.
>>98312134so they need two now?
>>98312097>>98312043First thing that crossed my mind too. Sounds like Black Lion
>>98312043This guy is even better than Calgar at melee?He must be practically a god.
>>98312136Space marine fans will buy any slop GW shits out for them. There are already people saying this boring OC is “beautiful and they are excited to add them to their collection.” Lmao.
Waiting on some bases to dry, are you guys working on anything?
>>98312151It's a good looking model if you enjoy Ultramarines.
>>98312135The old metal model had the option for it. The new model only the choice between two heads:- normal- shoutingI wish I was making that up.Have fun trying to convert him, you can guess how the cape and right arm is assembled.>>98312136>Now, clad in armour reminiscent of the Victrix Honour GuardIt doesn't even say if he's part of it, just that his suit of armor reminds of it (I guess that's the helmet).It's just an extremely lazy character, you could make a look-alike with the actual victrix guard kit
>>98312043the marine fatigue is real.
>>98311726I do mine by layering loren forest, agrax, loren forest and then elysian camo. (elysian, agrax, elysian and ogryn camo for grots)It does take a while, but its not so complicated that you cant batch paint if you need to (I usually do 2 or 3 at a time) and ork musculature is so exaggerated you can be fairly rough with your layering and any visible strokes just look like muscle striations so long as you did them in the right direction
>>98312043why the fuck would any other faction bother reporting for this "siege" results when everyone knows only SMs would get shit?
>>98312151>fans of marines will buy marine releasesdamn nigga maybe you aeldarifags should have tried that you'd get a release more often lmao
>>98312151Thank you >>98312156 for proving the point.
>>98312043Konsul Kaius Konorius.Ultramar Pride Imperium Wide.
>>98312127Because space marines are the faction for retarded babies.
>>98312170For real though, it's a good model, why would I be mad about it?
>my army's discord has turned into an attention-whoring platform for people to blogpost and send each other cutesy "good morning" gifs and make unrelated small talk in dedicated channelssend this faction back to the fucking shadow realm GW I never have to deal with this shit at sub 50 winrate
>>98312043Why can't they stick to releasing these named primaris lieutenants all together like they did the last few times?
>>98312043>People still think they didn't rig the Leviathan resultslol!
>>98312179Imagine being this wretched of a person lol
>>98312043Lol this model is fucking cool... too bad I'm not an ultramarines player
>>98312188there are literally dedicated channels for fags like you to pretend that internet friends are real social interactions
Is the HH rhino the same size as the normal one?
>>98312168Last time tyranids won plenty. Orks are just extremely unpopular, they peaked in the 90s.
>>98312193yes, the front plate is sized a bit differently but the footprint is virtually identicalwhy do you ask?
>>98312194>Last time tyranids won plentyand remind me what did they get for it?
>>98312177What makes it a good model? Can you articulate that?I can tell you why it's a bad model>Nth ultramarine character>pastiche of existing models bar the head and halo>Nothing special or unique about it. He could be a generic ultramarine captain and it would work, no change>the pose is also mediocre & generic. What's he doing? Is that supposed to be the pose of a champion?This model cements how low the standards of modern players are. People are gonna pay 40 bucks for a character they could make buying the victrix guard and then have 2 extra models with decent bits.If this is a good model then bad models don't fucking exist.
>>98312193Yes, it has pretty much the same dimensions.
>>98311995What's the source of this? Unspecified space marines used to be like 23% with combined marines and chaos marines being iver 50% of armies.
>>98312184Nah, they didn't rig the Leviathan results, now they're just making sure to not make that mistake again.
>>98312200erm.. le lictor, le neurolictor, le other lictor i can't remember, le big boy, le big psychic boy, le funny spider guy, and le new genestealers, if my le mind is le remembering correctly
>>98312043Holy shit it's definitely the black lion what the fuck
>>98312207thats range refresh and not battle results for gw's "campaign"
>>98312134Why does the stairs say "Nerd Macragge"?
>>98312201>What makes it a good model? Can you articulate that?He's a fancy looking space marine.>>Nth ultramarine characterDoesn't make it a bad model, just one of more limited utility.>>pastiche of existing models bar the head and haloYou means he's been designed in accordance with pre-existing themes and design elements. (This is good)>>Nothing special or unique about it. He could be a generic ultramarine captain and it would work, no changeYeah, he's an Ultramarine and looks like an Ultramarines. (This is the same point as the one above and is still good)>>the pose is also mediocre & generic. What's he doing? Is that supposed to be the pose of a champion?Yeah, he's got his weapons held out. It's a perfectly good pose for a champion.
>>98312151That's how SM keep getting model. Maybe you should give it a try lmao.
>>98312232>He's a good model because he's a fancy looking space marineNot reading the rest.
Are there any chart autists keeping track of Ultramarines characters Vs All other Space Marine characters releases?
>>98312232Yeah, I’m convinced now. Marine players really are just retarded babies.
>>98312236What's wrong with fancy looking space marines?
>>98312237Lol, not many people, it's only just about fucking everybody on r/Warhammer40k, reddit boy
>>98312242Seriously though, what's wrong with fancy looking space marines?
>>98312043Looks cool to me. The pauldrons especially look great.Also I like how people keep saying that GW is "trying to get rid of mk10 armor" and then everything they make is just blatantly mk10. It's hilarious.The copium huffing has never been more glorious.
Fancy marines are cool except when it's the same sort of fancy we've seen over and over again just with a new hat/pose.
>>98312022I hate it because leviathan is an ass scheme when its done badly and there are now a million terrible looking tyranid armies that could have ben way better if it was kraken or Behemoth or even gorgon.
>>98312242>>98312043
>>98312231One of the marines malevolent carved it there while visiting
>>98312169>>98312235>”you should actually buy models to get your releases!”>People buying up blood angels in the blood angels vs orks edition>Get an ultramarines characterMarine fans don’t even pretend they aren’t whales for GW to rob. They just bend over backwards and call you stupid for not opening your wallet to mid as fuck releases.
>>98312043Marines get to have 20 literally whos and yet Caiphas Caine and Eisenhorn are legends.
>Curse Space Marine fans and their ability to enjoy Space Marines!Xenoggers truly are a broken people.
>>98312043>Kaius fought alongside Marneus Calgar and Chaplain Cassius when all three were neophytes, and at the dawn of the Era Indomitus, he was tutoring battle‑brothers in bladework on Macragge. In the wake of his near‑fatal duel against Abaddon the Despoiler, Calgar summoned his old comrade to serve as his championMy OC best boot camp buddy of Calgar and the bestest duelist in the whole galaxy DO NOT STEAL
>>98312261>>People buying up blood angelsNone of the models GW released in 11th so far have been Blood Angels, they were always just generic primaris marines painted red.
>>98312194Last time the vote was only down to the people who bought the box, now anyone can register a victory, even people who have nothing to do with marines or orks, so you get people voting in favour of the status quo because they don't know any better
>>98312198Cause I gotta buy one for my sisters of silence
>>98312261Numarine fags deserve all the trash they get.t. oldmarine fag.>inb4 arr rook sameThat goes for you too, you deserve all the garbage they throw at you.
>>98312043>"victrix honor guard sold well">"what if we made a super special victrix honor guard?"brilliant.
>>98312043As a space marine player, fucking why? Ultramarines really didn’t need anything, generic SM in general don’t need anything really.
>>98312231it's a mystery
>>98312272>retconned cassius' age for a literal who OC wankinggrim
would you rather havefour range refresh ork kits that look decentor four space marine kits that look like the most boring shit you've ever seen
>>98312276>because they don't know any betterOr because they genuinely just like it.It's funny to me that people constantly fucking cope "le people just don't know any better, they are just hecking too dumb for their own good".It's like all those faggots coping over how horus heresy marines don't sell because they aren't in any marketing, which is a blatant fucking lie because GW shills the fuck out of Horus Heresy at every opportunity and always plasters the heresy marines everywhere in the heresy marketing. People just don't buy heresy marines because they just don't like or care about them.
>>98312281Exactly, I already imagine myself getting one.
>>98312255Kroiken looks like shit mate.
>>98312179>The GSC discord's competitive stategy channel was completely unusable for a whole day because it became inundated by people signaling to each other how trans inclusive they are.they deserve that 32% winrate
>>98312274How does that change the point? Blood angels are obviously the featured marines for eleventh and are getting nothing in these reveals.
>>98312292Orks are getting their reveals soon anyway, they're the first codex of 11e which means they'll get their full reveals in a few weeks.
>>98312282Cool marines anon, are they salamanders or a successor? I think the factions who are starving right now will get their time in the sunlight. Not too long ago people complained that eldar didn't get anything and now they have a lot of new kits to choose from.
>>98312301nta but they aren't featured for 11th, they were featured on the armageddon box, not the starter sets.
>>98312301>Blood angels are obviously the featured marines for eleventhTurns out they were featured for the limited release Armageddon box only. Everything else is painted blue.
>>98312294>Or because they genuinely just like it.No, there's nothing genuinely good about armageddon staying up and getting the nth war that plays out the same exact way.It should fall, and if you don't realise it then you don't just genuinely like it, you genuinely don't get shit.
>>98312301Blood Angels did get stuff in these reveals, generic marines are usable by every damn chapter out there. You don't need blood angel specific intercessors or vanguard or jump pack chaplain. That's dumb.
>>98312307It’s sallyfag’s homebrew successors, coal burners or something idgaf.
>>98312301>Blood angels are obviously the featured marines for eleventhAre they?
>>98312043>10th marine kit of the edition Must suck being a Xenos player
Another day, another confirmation that most people are shit eating retards. At least they know not to get laid & reproduce.
LAUGH AT ORKSISSIESAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>98312307They’re salamander successors. I’ve got a bunch of Google Docs with a bunch of fluff but that stuff has mostly been moved to the /40k/ discord.
>>98312332Maybe it's time to confront the fact that you're the retard.
>>98312301Blood angels new release wave with new death company, special 3 man elite squad, and new characters is coming soon. We'll be stuck with the terrible sanguinary guard for a while.>Source: revealed to me in a dream.
>>98312043>blatant scam designed to make you pay out the nose for a single Victrix model
>All these Orks seething
>>98312043Kaius fought alongside Marneus Calgar and Chaplain Cassius when all three were neophytesFucking retarded lore rape, Calgar and Cassius weren't neophytes at the same time, Cassius is older and was already a fully-fledged Marine when Calgar was a neophyte, that's why he calls him "Young Calgar".
>>98312353>Cassius is older and was already a fully-fledged Marine when Calgar was a neophyte, that's why he calls him "Young Calgar".They realised that they literally stole that bit from Ulric and Logan and so had to change it.
>>98312347And yet you jumped on this
>>98312316more specific victrix guard characters essential, though
>>98312359On what?
>>98312349Marine players enjoy being abused by GW.
>>98312337All twelve of them are seething right now.
>literal who ultramarine character>immediately followed by AOS she-ogre reveal
>>98312043i hope you all look forward to this model being busted as fuck so the rules writers can tourneyfag before 11th has gotten its first codex
>>98312315>i don't like it, it's impossible for other people to form their own opinions and like somethingAutism.
>>98312378and she looks better
>revealing an Ultramarines named character specifically for what is supposed to be general Space Marine revealsHoly fuck that's so lame and gay lmao, they didn't do this last time in 10th, all the Space Marine stuff from their previous wave was usable by every chapter.
>>98312377I don't understand why the other 11 are allegedly seething, I thought we were eating pretty good lately, we got some nice new stuff
>>98312353Sorry Calgar and new OC take precedence over a literal who
>>98312390You didn't form any opinion, you didn't even think about the matter at all.
>>98312398marinepiggies projecting how they'd feel when they don't get an equal attention cake.
>>98312394Unironically yes. Character big on cannons that blew their own arm off and has a hook, that's actually interesting. Plus the new AoS ogres have a nice mongolian theme, although it could have been pushed a bit more, I understand why it was kept simple.Makes me want to pick them up for 40k, either for necromunda or as ogryn auxilia.
>>98312400I did, you're just lashing out more because people don't share your opinion.
>>98312408>I didthen give a valid reason why you "like it"
>>98312398They are just trying to save face at the whole community absolutely despising another fucking ultramarine literal who slop character being the big reveal.
>>98312403>implying the "lol ultramad" niggers aren't 24/7 underage trollsI'd be surprised if they had models
>>98312296Yeah I dont like it either but its impossible to fuck up.
>>98312043It's actually not bad for a primaris marine, because most of the primaris crap is covered up or replaced by victrix guard designs instead. The lore is fucking gay though. Where the fuck was this guy during the Battle for Macragge? If he's as old as Calgar who was already Chapter Master at the time, he'd be a Veteran, and the entire First Company died TO THE LAST MAN in that battle, very explicitly, not even a single survivor. If he was Honour Guard, they all died holding off the Swarmlord while Calgar was evacuated to safety. So he was somehow already an old fuck but not in the Honour Guard or the First Company?
Ultragods win again. Not a big surprise.
>>98312299I was in one to see what people were playing etc. Noped the fuck out, I don't know if it's a faction specific thing or 40k players on Discord servers are all gay.
>>98312169>eldar boogieman out of nowheremeds. now.
>>98312432The Ork Discords I'm on are pretty much perfect
>>98312432It's Discord in general, it's absolutely infested with troons.
>>98312038don't do that because factions should have their own identities
>>98312169>aeldarifagshow much shitposting do you do around here? gotta be around 70% of every bad faith argument or shitty take.
>>98312169You realize Eldar have had more releases than Marines in the last year, right?
>>98312043Wow I can't believe the space marines won
>>98312406>or as ogryn auxilia.I'm thinking this too, I wonder how much conversion work it would be to make a really brutal feral Ogryn auxilia detachment with these models. I have a number of other projects to do first, though...
>>98312432I'm in several of the faction ones and they vary wildly on how draconian or sweaty they are. Most of the population are redditors though since their invite links all end up posted there. Some of them are pure salt mines at all times though for the smaller factions
>>98312074they already did that with titus and it was ultra gay then too
Predator at your command
>>98312425He was on administrative leave from the chapter (pending investigation) due to sexually harassing some neophytes. When the first company died in glory he was sitting on an evacuation ship because they made him turn in his armor and bolter.The investigation has since been completed, and they've determined that they can't afford to let their only non-high-command veteran be let go no matter how many neophytes he diddled behind the Burger Emperor (Have It His Way!) between the hours of 3:00 and 6:00 PM.
AoS mogged us again sisters...
>>98312484
>>98312494Looks better than “good marine fighter 9000”
>>98312494>>98312509So the rumors are true, marines are the designated range for new modelers.
>>98312468Kasrkin squad, ready for war
>>9831249410/10 in britain
>>98312484>>98312494>>98312509No, sorry, your DEI slop isn't fit to lick the boots of Gaius Macragge or whatever he's called.
>>98312406It looking better isn't really a surprise. GW has to actually put effort in if they want to move any models. I don't even think she's great for a maneater (wish she had more flair like a big hat) but she's still good
>>98312525>not got massive fat tits shoved into an undersized shein dress which wobble about like two martini glasses filled with skin-coloured jelly when she walksNah sorry m8, thats a 0/10 from me
Besides mass sterilization of humans and the vespid mind control helmets, what other crimes do the Tau commit?
>>98312560They killed all the troons. The Poctroons that is.
>>98312560They breath
>>98312560being non-human, the worst crime of all
>>98312410I don't need to.
>>98311697What Faction, Anon? Some are really good at Disruption, like Eldar, and some just have to build for it.
>>98312560>Besides mass sterilization of humansthey don't do this, that's a waste of perfectly good cannon fodder
>>98312560They wide out races that don't assimilate and colonize the planet...so they're not all that bad.
>>98312593Of course they do, they are deathly afraid of being outreproduced by their lessers, which proves they are the whites to the imperiums indians and not the other way around.
>>98312602>Of course they doNo they don't.
>>98311026Thanks doc
>>98312560Taxation without representation
>>98312560They exterminated the first alien race they encountered with bioweapons; allied with brain controlling worms; destroyed the vespids' culture and society, and keep using the vespids as disposable troops; duped a race of pacifists into becoming cogs in a war industrial complex; may or may not have instigated the orks against the kroots, or at least waited until the situation was dire, to present themselves as saviours; painful and immoral experimentations on cryostasis, cloning, and brain scan technologies for propagandistic purposes; they arm, train and fund terrorists on worlds they want to rebel against the empire and join them; outfit troops with radioactive equipment and little shielding for it.
>>98312597>wide out racesAndrew Dobson is a member of the Tau?
>>98312589CSM
>>98312560>vespid mind controlIt's not a mind control helmet, it's just a communication helmet, vespids just think the greater good lines up with their own philosophy
>>98312606There's canon paragraphs and DoW 1 where they explicitly do it.
>>98312617>They exterminated the first alien race they encountered with bioweaponsIt doesn't say that. It's not confirmed.>allied with brain controlling wormsAfter a bitter war. The Nagi are chill now.>destroyed the vespids' culture and society,In exchange for allowing them to see the stars and colonize new worlds.> keep using the vespids as disposable troops;Hivestorm doesn't show that Tau are using them as cannon fodder. In fact, it shows that they are highly respected by the Fire Caste.>duped a race of pacifists into becoming cogs in a war industrial complexThe Galg? They were a race of hedonists. Joining the Tau was better than fallling to Slaanesh.>may or may not have instigated the orks against the kroots, We have tthe lore of the encounter. The Tau stumbled blindly in the Kroot and Ork war. By the time the Tau got involved the Orks left.>painful and immoral experimentations on cryostasisCitation needed.>cloningNot bad.> brain scan technologies for propagandistic purposesAlso for honour the dead or preserve knowledgeNot that bad.> they arm, train and fund terrorists on worlds they want to rebel against the empire and join them; Supporting freedom fighters is good.> outfit troops with radioactive equipment and little shielding for it.Bullshit. The Ion Weapons are shielded well. The Fire Warrior user by his own initiative, has to remove the shielding and expose the material to air to boost the power.
What is the best possible origin story for the Emperor of mankind?
>>98312560they're space communists run by mind controlling psykers. what other crimes do they need to commit?
>>98312645There isn't.DoW 1 isn't even canon. The Tau were retconned from ever being on Kronus.And GW says that humans in the Tau Empire are massing on all Tau worlds.
>>98312645>canonoh okay can you share them
>>98312652You can't hide the truth, you ethereal hoof licker.
>>98312659>DoW1 isn't even canonNta but nigga gabriel angelos is a playable model
>>98312645>dow>canon
>>98312657the first one given in realms of chaos: slaves to darkness(he's like the eldar gods, a gestalt consciousness of the strongest psykers, intended to fight chaos)
>>98312668The Blood Ravens winning is canon nothing else is.Like I said, they retconned the Tau from ever being there. It is impossible now for the Tau to have ever been on Kronus.
>>98312657>best possible origin story for the emperor of mankind?- We don't actually know- Whatever truth there is in modern myths is unknown- More than likely mixed in the achievements of other individuals with plain made up stories- At best the Terran warlord that won the conquest of Terra, now known as the Wars of Unification.
>>98312657no single immortal emperor ever actually existed, just a long line of inheritors and usurpers. the corpse of a random psyker sits on the throne. the tall tales about how big and strong and cool he was are fabrications of the church.
>>98312681>Like I said, they retconned the Tau from ever being thereNo they haven't
>>98312684>>98312657>>98312678Master of Mankind has his origin story.Also, Erda and Oll give his backstory in Saturnine.
>>98312657>if heavy retcons are allowed daot engineered monster that malcador shaped into something that eventually outgrew him>if heavy retcons aren't allowedprehistoric special people banded together, he was only slightly above what's the norm for what's normal amongst the prehistoric special people, only grew to become a psychic powerhouse with a daring gamble in the realm of chaos
>>98312688Yes. They relocated Kronus to the northern reaches of the galaxy, far from the Tau Empire.
>>98312689No one cares, retard, read the posts you are replying to. We are discussing what would be the best possible story, not what BL schlock says.
>>98312689>Master of Mankind has his origin story.A lesser version of the one from Realms of Chaos yes
>>98312696That doesn't mean tau are retconned from kronus
>>98312684This but it is fact that he's an unbelievably powerful psyker, that part can't really be ambiguous. So it's not just any random Warlord who happened to win.
>>98312704Yes, they did. The Tau didn't have the travel method to reach the north at that time.
>>98312696Where does it say this? You realize there can be multiple planets with the same name, right? That's already happened multiple times in the lore.
>>98312678 Does that mean the shaman suicide Theory or possibility? I'm the guy who asked the question and that's my favorite answer to who or what he is.
>>98312705The Emperor is not the Astronomican. Everything you have been told is a lie.
>>98312707Did GW state the tau weren't there? If not, then they weren't retconned.I do not care about in universe logic when discussing GW canon, for GW canon does not care for in universe logic either.
>>98312710The IGN interview with the developer. It's the same planet. The Blood Ravens return to Kronus.They changed its location so that the Lion can be involved.
>>98312713While that could be a fun twist there's not really any reason at all to keep him alive at that point. It's better if the Emperor actually is the psychic powerhouse he's been depicted as.
>>98312657isn't the emperor just Sigmar? I thought AoS was a prequel to 40k.
>>98312717Yes. By relocating the planet far out of reach of the Tau Empire, yes, they did.
>>98312720>The IGN interviewLMAO
>>98312722No.
>>98312707This isn’t a retcon, at least not an intentional one. It’s just a glaring plot hole in the lore. One that GW doesn’t give a fuck about just as they do for the rest of their fucked up and inconsistent lore. Tau simply has FTL tech once and now they don’t.The Tau were on Kronos, how and why? GW doesn’t give a shit, buy more models and merch.
>>98312722No, the Emperor is Archaon.
>>98312494This does not spark joy.
>>98312721>why keep him alive then?-The authority of the High Lords descends from the Emperor, the assumption being that the Emperor gives them permission and authority, directly or indirectly. The Emperor needs to be kept alive, at all costs, to maintain the High Lords.-The mechanisms of the Golden Throne and any connected contraptions is not fully understood, therefore the death of the Emperor could lead to a collapse of important infrastructure, again jeopardizing the High Lords and the Adeptus Terra as a whole.-The Imperial Cult is based on the Undying, Immortal Emperor. But what is another lie?
>>98312726>>98312729Here is the interview with the developer:https://www.ign.com/articles/the-big-dawn-of-war-4-interview-how-a-new-developer-took-on-warhammer-40000s-flagship-rts-why-it-returns-to-kronus-and-why-chaos-isnt-here-yet>I think our approach was more that we wanted these campaigns to be kind of nonlinear, so that you sometimes can pick between different missions and so on. And for that we needed a planet. So we said, ‘Okay, we want a world map where you can basically select different missions and so on, and also where there can be world map dialogues from Dawn of War 2.’ And so we basically thought about what we could do. And that was actually something that Games Workshop suggested: ‘Why not go back to [the Dark Crusade setting of] Kronus? Wouldn't that be an interesting thing?’ Well, yeah, that would be cool, because Kronus is basically on the wrong side of the Great Rift. That also feels great for our story because the Blood Ravens are now scattered in the Nhilus Sector, and it's basically they go back to this planet that is kind of connected to them in the hope of maybe finding recruits, or finding brothers that made their way back to the planet as well. But then it’s 40k, and of course everything goes totally wrong, but we felt it's a nice idea to go back there.Kronos used to be between the Tau Empire and Ultramar. By relocating it to Nihilus its no longer within reach of the Tau Empire. That effectively retconned the Tau out of Dark Crusade.
>>98312723>It's conjecture>no, but yesI rest my case
>>98312757See >>98312749At the time, Tau can barely move past the Damocles Gulf with their sublight drives.You think they can magically go north?
>>98312731The Emperor is Conan the Barbarian, which took place on Terra, the Hyborian Age actually wasn't 10,000 BC it was the Age of Strife in the post-apocalyptic future.
Does anyone else want more “local xenos” factions like Tau and Votann?
>>98312721>keep him alivenoone is keeping him alive, the sacrifices are to power the astronomican
Even the original writers think it's ridiculous for the Emperor myths to be actual literal truths of the setting. It's been ten thousand years. The myths reveal everything we need to know about the politics of the 41st century, but almost nothing about the past.
>>98312766>You think they can magically go north?Yes, in fact that literally happens and it's how we get the Nem'yar Atoll.
>>98312769the galaxy map is irrelevant and locking factions to a specific location is thus badI want more alien minifactions, yes
>>98312766In universe logic does not matter. Until GW states they were never there, they were there.I rest my case.>Let's retcon the necron & tau DLC campaign to not have Tau at allBig if true
>>98312749>>98312766The Tau Empire is RIGHT NEXT to the Rift, retard, it's literally closer to it than to Ultramar, and why do you keep saying "North"? Not to mention their 5th sphere expansion through the gate is also in Nihilus.
>assfartes have 43 epic heroes, more than every other faction in the game combined>they're still making more assfartes donut steels
>>98312749Again, and especially with the added context of the Interview. GW doesn’t care if their lore is a mess. They never have. >“What should we use as a setting?”>GW: “Hey, got back to Kronus so we can nostalgia bait 40K fans into buying the game!”>”But that would ruin the whole reason Tau could get there!”>GW: “Huh? No one is going to give a shit about that. Just do it and make me money.”That can be applied to almost every 3rd party “retcon” that happens in 40K. GW just does what it thinks makes them cash. 11th is doing the exact same story as 2nd despite that fact that if Orks can’t take Armageddon then the last twenty decades of their narrative was completely pointless. GW doesn’t care.
>>98312468
>>98312777As Rick Priestly said (paraphrasing):Some things were myths and half-truth, never meant to be revealed, but it's seems that many of these are been made as the truth and only reality of the setting.He doesn't think it's a good idea, but (and important part)>If people like it that way, then why notSo yes, in short: normalfags & retards can't grasp ambiguity & myths, and GW will appeal to them.
>>98312785Nihilus is north, idiot.Dark Crusade happened during the Third Sphere Expansion. Before the Star Tide Nexus. The Tau expansion was limited to just beyond the Damocles Gulf. They didn't go north.
>>98312805>Some things were myths and half-truth, never meant to be revealed, but it's seems that many of these are been made as the truth and only reality of the setting.Well, it's stupid he says that, because his written backstory is much more unambiguous. Indeed, I would say the real problem with modern lore is that, while they make these characters who were background fixtures far, far more relevant and demystify them into often childish tantrum figures (primarchs lole), they create far too many specific spots of 'no we can't detail that at ALL' or desire ambiguity, creating a ton of random blind spots where everyone just seems to have refused to ask questions because of a desire to vaguepost, or the emperor behaving differently in every single book, etc
>>98312468Emperor’s Children Predator at your command
>>98312812>The Tau expansion was limited to just beyond the Damocles Gulfexcept for long range expeditions allowed by the warp travel capabilities of their allies
>>98312786YES YES YES WELL DONE NECRONS WELL DONEHOWEVER....10 POINTS TO THE ULTRAMARINES FOR DEMONSTRATION OF AMAZING NOBLEBRIGHT CHARACTER FOR SECONDARIES THAT WANT TO PLAY AS THE GOOD GUYS100 POINTS TO ROBOUTE GULLIMAN FOR HIS PRIMARINES EARNING GAMES WORKSHOP ONE TRILLION DOLLARS1000 MORE RESCULPTS FOR CALGAR
>>98312812>Nihilus is north, idiot.You are so fucking retarded, it cuts diagonally. It's also to the East. And we know they could reach as far as Ultramar before, so they could reach places that are now in the Imperium Nihilus. You tried to say Kronus was in the FAR NORTH of the galaxy when all they said is it's in Nihilus. Lying retard.
>>98312786I can’t think of any other franchise that deliberately shits on its own lore just to prop up boring characters. Even Star Wars with Jedi have the Jedi be fucking stupid half the time and do way more harm than good. 40K lore is so cool when you ignore like 2/3rd of it since the 2/3rd is space marine wank that adds nothing of value to the setting.
>>98312835If you mean the Kroot, then they hide it from the Ta, and it would be assinine to randomly take over a world that's far away from the mainland.Look at the galactic map. Kronos was between Ultramar and the Tau Empire. The fact that placed Kronos beyond the Great Rift places the planet FAR FAR FAR away with the Tau's space travel. Their space travel was limited to just beyond the Damocles Gulf. The Tau struggled to go any further.
>>98312839That's the opposite direction of their EXPANSION, RETARD. There aren't any imperials there. Just Orks.And no. They can't reach Ultramar. They never progressed beyond the dovar system.
>>98312857Maybe Kronus got moved by the great rift.
>>98312786>Don’t you worry little 40K fan>Uncle James has got all the Adeptus Astartes(tm) releases for you to buy for your entire life
>>98312875The expansions are called SPHERES you stupid fuck, they are going in every direction.
>>98312881We literally have the direction of the Tau Expansion in the rulebooks. See >>98312812. They were going westward.
>>98312857>If you mean the Krootthe kroots aren't the only ones, but the kroots too allow it, the tau empire knows they have ships, and have helped the tau deliver forces far away from the main tau empire as described in one kill team supplement.
>>98312893That happened much, much later in the Fifth Sphere Expansion.And all the Kroot did was deliver spies.
>>98312901>That happened much, much later in the Fifth Sphere Expansion.Do you have any reason why something like that couldn't happen earlier? It's not presented as something new.
>>98310221Inner Circle (boltguns)
>>98312913Because the Kroot hid their warp drives until recently
>>98310309I bought a sekhmet coven for 190 bucks and sold everything except the vortex beast and charged separately for the exalted sorceror's disc so I could squeeze an extra 20 bucks out of it so I only paid about 25 bucks for the MVB
>>98312934No, there was no reveal recently, you're making that up.
>>98310402>"rubricae phalanx detachment">there are only 2 rubric datasheets (nromal and SOT) in the entire armyI dislike that not only did GW fail to lean into their gimmick, they didn't even substitute it with anything extra that might be THEMATIC. At least the extra vehicles death guard gets are very PLAGUE MARINE and so is their extra terminator datasheet, and EC got a broadened focus into OBSESSION with shit like the swordsmen and tormentors. But thousand sons are just a jumbled mess of half forgotten ideas. And world eaters are just a bunch of cultists and freaks on roids.
>>98312560they are space nafotroons
>>98312955Yes, they were. The old lore says that the Kroot didn't reveal the existence of their drives to the Tau.The Tau discovered and seized them secretly during the Damocles Crusade.
>>98312468>Creditor bank here
>>98312934The kroots try to hide their ships and ftl escapades out of the pact they've done with the tau, but the tau know they have ships and ftl travel, what they don't know is HOW.
>>98312972That's wrong and you're making that up.
>>98312468STRIKE THEM DOWN WITH ALL YOUR MIGHT
>>98312976does their initiation involve leaving a tip for the medicae or convincing a xeno to take out an unfavorable mortgage on their hab block?
>>98312824>Well, it's stupid he says that, because his written backstory is much more unambiguous.No, you just fell for the myth. Thank you for demonstrating.
>>98312043I don't really care for the marine reveals in general since the Ork reveals are guaranteed to be dramatically more interesting than anything out of power armor land. But holy shit does that guy's backstory stink of deviantart OC with him being best friends with the Main Character (Calgar) and even retconning another characters in the process.
>>98313001>convincing a xenos to take out an unfavorable mortgage on their hab block?that’s for regular humans or “grox” as they like to call them. the xenos get their hab blocks bombed in order to “save the preservation of the emperor’s chosen marines”.
>>98313034I didn’t even bother to look at the article cause I thought it was just a generic captain, but its really weird how similar he is to the black lion of ultramar. I wonder if they’ll pull a calgar, and release this mini, but updated with a black lion and deathwatch pauldron.
>>98313034I think I just want to see more fantastical models in general, and while the new helmet on this guy is cool I just don't see any inspiring new fantasy coming from Victrix Lieutenant Glupshitto. Could have given him a unique weapon or new cape or back banner or something to make him stand out. Possibly an older armor design since he's a Calgar club cub. Maybe a more interesting duelist pose even if he has to have the axe and sword thing. A power rapier or something could have been cool.Orks at least have something novel and fantastical about most of them that's evocative of the imagination.
>>98312829Non-canon
>>98313054I wouldve also like to see more unique weaponryThe helmet is neat but the combo of broom-head and also the golden shit looks too busy imhoBut if they gave him unique shit people would bitch about him being a donut steel OC so it almost feels like GW can’t win here
>>98313034Where is Telion?
>>98313059>if they gave him unique shit people would bitch about him being a donut steel OCthe master-tier duelist with named weapons and knew all the main characters in college isn't an obvious donut steel OC from some staffer's rpg campaign?
>>98313031>This section explains who and what the Emperor is, what his motives are, and what his ultimate fate might be
>>98313068There you go now imagine if his shit was even more flashyWouldnt hear the end of it
>>98313057Emperor's Children Defiler at your command
>>98313034>with him being best friends with the Main Character (Calgar)they did this for titus and it was shit then too. dunno what's wrong with gw
>>98313081Titus was a captain of course he and Calgar would be familiar with each other
>>98313087sure but "i knew you'd NEVER do anything heretical because we're just such good buddies" is retardedcalgar is his superior officer and finds him reliable but they shouldn't be friendsbut calgar should be dead now that guilliman makes him completely pointless anyway tbf
>>98312927Volkite culverins or bust
>>98313081Corporate has decided that Calgar is the new main character of the setting so every conflict has to involve him and everyone new has to be related to him in some way. When Calgar isn't on screen everybody should be asking "Where's Calgar?".
>>98313096Of course Calgar would be pissed one of his captains was spirited away by the Inquisition without even his input. That would be as much of an insult to him personally as to the Ultramarines.
>>98313114Why would his input be necessary? It's the Emperor's Most Holy Inquisition, after all
>>98312134Oh COME ON! another UM character? jesus, just say orks arent getting their shit first and the campaign is fixed already.>>98312619>DobsonTHAT'S why the decalfag meltdowns were so fascinating to watch in real time. I had forgotten about that Blue Bear faggot. He's a Dobson-esque loser
>ulTRANNYmarines seething about inquistionBVLLS to this day
>if the exodite box is sold for 130 bucks at a discount on ebay>can sell the beast snaggas and get 80 bucks back>50 dollars for exo-knights
>>98313134Even the Inquisition knows not to piss of space marine chapters unnecessarily.
>>98313096Gulliman can command all the ultramarine derived chapters and runs the imperiums so he doesn't have time to micromanage one sectorCalgar is his viceroy on Ultramar commanding the ultramarines specifically.
>>98313161>guilliman runs the imperiumthis is one of the worst parts about nulore. so much soul gone in an instant
>>98313096Its a storyIts dramatizedOf course in reality their relationship should be exclusively professional in service of the Emperor and the Imperium but its a story so y’know human emotions do periodically have to be portrayed so we can actually identify with the characters>>98313145Kek
>>98313166What do you mean?The avenging son plot?I think it’s cool, he talks to the Emperor and is called a tool but also his last hope
>>98313169>can't identify with killing machines who've purged all traces of humanity from their beingsunironically ngmi
Honestly it’s shocking that the new Gary Stu space marine OC wasn’t also butt buddies with Titus and the two used to give each other reach around between missions. The only thing that they could make “interesting” about him was that he knew all those other characters you totally like and will buy their models. Which has to make him interesting by default because that’s how writing works.
>>98313154you think you'll get that much after the market is flooded with unwanted orks?
>>98313145decalfag gave me vibes from several lolcows.general tantrums like chris chantough guy attitude like cyraxxloves to play dumb like andrew ditchsmug like the quarteringdelusions of being loved like daniel larsontruly a cursed person. I hope someone irl slapped him out of it.
>>98313170>emperor directly talking >when the whole point of the Emperor is how detached he is from the current setting as the physical representation of a lost golden age that can never be truly recapturedGod Gathering Storm era lore was such vomit.
Help I haven't played the game for like 8 years and am supposed to play this weekend.How do I make a tyranid army list. I've got a shitload of everything old and also a leviathan box and all the new lictors.
>>98312152I love making bases
>>98313176What's weird is how he's just teaching guys on Macragge without seemingly any position or rank. Like he's buddy buddy with the chapter master and the head chaplain and he's just sorta chilling at home? I guess the chapter champion must have died if Calgar needs a new hitman.
>>98313182He still is thats the point Emps is downedGuilliman has to run the show
>>98313196He also must’ve not been important enough to be in the 1st company during the Battle of Macragge which is odd for Calgar’s best buddy.
>>98313179>post thing on 4chan>immediately negative repliesIs this a bot or just a brainbroken 4channer.
>>98313180Kek>>98313195Agreed making bases is the best part
>>98313078Emperor's Children Defiler *Clanking Noises*Would fit the joke better.
>>98313190buttlictor
>>98313145>just say orks arent getting their shit firstOrks literally are getting their stuff first, chill.
>>98313217nah you're just retarded and the world is reacting normally
>>98313195Fuck I forgot my image>>98313221It really is
>>98313212No it fucking isn't because someone who is just "downed" shooting the shit from his lazy boy chair is completely different in terms of themes, feel and characterization than something that is detached from modern events and can only really be speculated about. But I guess retarded slop slurpers with no fucking standards like you think it's "epic" so fuck it rape the setting into the dirt who cares anymore.
>>98313213There's one step up in importance from First Company which is Calgar's own Honour Guard, which would have made sense for him, but they all died too.
I cannot believe space marines players couldn't just let orks have this one space marines are so over done
>>98313166This, the lore has been raped beyond belief since Gathering Storm, almost every bit of it sucked and almost every bit of 8th edition lore to follow. Total fucking shitshow.
>Bro you are just painting 3D coloring books What is the rebuttal to that? I am too simple for banter. FUCK
Currently painting my pain boy what's everyone doing today then the fellas?
>>98313254You reply with simply, “Yes” and a gigachad pic.If IRL you shrug and move on.
>>983132572 warlocks and a bonesinger. Once the weather lets me prime I'll prime the terminators for my collage entry.
>>98313253I like how Ynnari went from the FINAL HOPE OF THE ELDAR faction to a death cult that everyone is really trying to ignore.
>>98313254>my coloring books fight other peoples' coloring books
>>98313182>emperor directly talkingWhy does everyone say it's the emperor directly talking the text itself portrays it as multiple voices saying perfectly opposite things. He basically says "I (love/hate) you you (suck/rock)" and the point is that Guilliman only hears one side.>>98313190At least one character to be your warlord, no more than 3 of each datasheet, make whatever looks good then look up whatever combination of detachments supports your army best
>>98313257nothing. waiting on delivery of two saturnine dreads so that they can be converted to picrel.
>>98313054>I think I just want to see more fantastical models in generalThis.
>>98313271Honestly, that's kind of what they should have been from the start and is a much more interesting angle for a subfaction.
>>98313257just fucking around with some old boyz, diggaboyz, and grots until the weather gets good enough to prime my armageddon models. may the humidity go down soon inshallah.
>>98313252For what it’s worth, most marine players seem to be pissed that they voted for a new ultramarine literal who oc. The next two weeks I imagine are going to orks just out of spite.But who knows, it was a dumb idea to let a popularity poll decide the lore of your setting instead of letting the writing do that for you. It is just going to back fire when they don’t know where to go next with the plot because their villain characters never get to win anything.
>>98313302Niceeeee>>98313265This weather is rather annoying for painting models, my first ten boys are fine but i painted the base rim now it's slightly tacky I'm waiting for them to dry still
>>98313073Nigga you missed the entirety of the beginning of that introductory paragraph and its point.
>>98313242You’re welcome to not like it and just prefer a dead universe where everything sucks forever and we infinitely watch a string of Saturday morning cartoon subplots with characters that have no significant capacity to affect major change on the settingBut I like that the setting is moving forward and continuing the Epic major plot
>>98313257I am painting my Tomb Kings
Now that marines have 42 special characters/HQ option models, do you think one of the other factions that are fighting on Armageddon might get one? IG recently got Graves and a couple light vehicles. The third imperial faction that has always been on Armageddon doing a lot of the fighting is the Soriritas, but they haven't gotten a model in a while, and it was a while before the most recent previous one as well (Freye).A scrap in between the Marine character models, perhaps GW?
>>98313320It's a shame I've been pushing them to update the rest of the alien forces as they need it, any predictions or ideas what will be next? Hopefully knobs and mega knobs
>>98313254>rebuttal to that"What the fuck are you talking about, you fucking cretin"or just give him a look as if you had just witnessed a sick dog vomiting blood in front of you, accompagnied with a slight shift away from him and looking at him from head to toe, as if you were wondering how such a thing even exists in the first place, let alone continues to exist.
>>98313315They should have just been corsairs bailing out the Imperium post Cadia and no Yncarne.
>>98313335I expect grey knights and bjorn, yes
>>98313335No, this is specifically a showdown between marines and orks.
>>98313320It really shows the lack of creativity in marine players that they’re complaining about new models. We told guard players to convert models during the Armageddon anger
>>98313335IG will be getting Steel Legion maybe next year, so that's something.
>>98313257Probably packing up my pants and unpainted minis so I don’t have to do it for the move later. I’m currently fighting the urge to build the three land speeders I picked up secondhand. My next actual painting project should be my Hammerhead sometime in mid to late August.
>>98313285I thought the point was the duality of the messageLike Emps possibly betraying his deeper view of his son as just a toolAnd then the ambiguity of whether the positive words from him were real or pragmatic manipulation
>>98313331You can't have armies for multiple game systems, thats against the console wars.
>>98313337Ork bikers have already been accidentally showed off. It was hinted that one of the reveals would come with an ammo grot. So probably nobs to go with the new and bigger Warboss and to get some of the newer weapon options orks Nobs have. Like the new kustom choppa that got revealed in the ork codex.
>>98313357I have aos minis too
>>98313358>Accidentally
>>98313348I think it’s more the audacity to release an ultramarine character when everyone should be getting new universal marines. There is more than enough ultramarine characters, they really didn’t need another when they could make a new unit for any army.
>>98313257Revisiting some of my old models. Going to get back into painting again soon. Was just looking them over. I really enjoyed painting but it would take me so long to finish one model. I am just very slow I guess. Luckily I only play kill team occasionally. I was just painting for fun before.
>>98313380I agreeI think they’re just really pushing the Ultramarine look because of the movie and the video game
>>98313358Hopefully! I play boarding actions though as infantry is just neat
>>98313380I don't think anyone would have been surprised or upset of it had been Pedro Kantor of the Crimson Fists.
>>98313399Pedro Kantor has to be coming.
>>98313325>the truth isn't known to people of the imperium, but here's the truth of it - only the emperor remembers it, and maybe he doesn't cause it as so long ago
>>98313349will they really make plastic steel legion when we already have kriegers for the gas mask look? I would prefer steel legion obviously but a decade of grimdank memes have made krieg more popular
Are iron warriors Nurgle affiliated or are they associated with some other chaos god?
>>98313399Well yeah but that’s such a left field option for a refresh that most would be surprised GW went with it at all lol. There would be some at least some grumbling but most would appreciate crimson fists got anything at all. The only wilder card would be a new iron hands exclusive model.
>>98313430They are atheists.
>>98313430They are not affilated with any god, they're just using them as tools because they're so smart :)
>>98313427I am newer to the hobby. I literally thought Krieg and Steel legion were basically the same guys. I think the Krieg have a better color scheme though now that I realize they are two different factions.
>>98313356It does not read as cognizant at all, it reads more as 10 thousand psykers shoved into one concioussness. with the remains of the original concioussness sputtering at the end.>>98313430Iron Warriors are unaligned and worship no god exclusively
>>98313440How the Iron Warriors really feel.
plastic tombstalker when
>>98313447I guess I would have to re-read it but it made sense to me that whatever words came out were filtered through the Emperor in some wayThe message is scrambled and corrupted and perhaps betrays some darker aspects of his characterBut that's just how I interpreted it
>>98313430They were free agents until Vashtor came along and threw that into question. Hopefully GW just never comments on it officially
>>98313380As someone who doesn't play marines, it's really funny to hear you say that. There are as many generic marine vehicles as there are generic SoB units. Our most expensive unit is a T3 wheelbarrow with a corpse in it, our tanks fire -1 AP, and we have zero air vehicles or anti-air vehicles. You guys have it so fucking good.>>98313442Not at all, Krieg are an artillery army straight out of WW1 and SL is a mechanized army straight out of the cold war.
>>98313440https://files.catbox.moe/xec8sp.jpg
>>98312043>Black Lion willed himself into official lore holy fuck I kneel
>>98313442death korps of krieg are forgeworld wanking off ww1 aesthetics to the nth degreesteel legion are one of classic imperial guard regiments because they are the local guard/pdf to armageddon itselfheavily mechanized and recruiting from psychotic hive gangers they are far more kino than vat grown krieg spergs
>>98313472>They were free agents until Vashtor came along and threw that into question.They have no link to Vashtorr.
>>98313471Oh yeah but the point is that the emperor is absolutely not "there", only barely conscious and the text basically doesn't confirm anything. Anyone who wants to have that as evidence of BL dissolving mysteries willy nilly didn't actually read. the text.
>>98313498So you think, until Codex Iron Warriors comes out and they're retconned to be his Cult Legion.
>>98312043Why do Ultramarines always get insane drip?
>>98313503>just wait until the new plastic toys come out and all /your guys/ are flanderized, character assassinated and eventually squattedthats just 40k in general
This is barely related but for some reason I have more respect for the Worgen than Space Wolves.
>>98313505Roman Legion Marines
>>98312043Kek, saw this and thought about the Black Lion
>>98313380>another primaris lieutenant
>>98313512>the WorgenThe literally who?
>>98312043Name ONE manlet model that ever looked this good.
>>98313427The previewed the concept designs at adepticon
>>98313475That is just the unfortunate truth of the hobby. Marine bloat is the biggest issue with 40K lore and games as a whole. You’d think they’d eventually make an interesting character with how much marine stuff they put out. Yet all of them get hard carried by hype moments and aura with no personality between.
>>98313257About to pin some SoBs to bases and then start on 4 old repentia sculpts
>>98313517We literally just got a primaris lieutenant except he can be used for the one teachers pet faction only despite this being a time for all marines to take part in a global campaign to get earlier reveals.
>>98313523Everything good about it is taken from manlet Ultramarine designs just enlargened to the new proportions.
>>98313512both are the same thing, a vague remnant of a cool concept from the lore being taken advantage of for homosexual furries to shove their autistic fetish hyperfixation into a setting
>>98313523Korssaro Khan's first model
Will all the CP be replaced with new ones for the new edition?
>>98313555>despite this being a time for all marines to take part in a global campaign to get earlier revealsYeah this, what the fuck was GW thinking showing off a sub-faction locked Special Character as part of the campaign reveals??
>>98313529It's also a shame that you can't have any kind of Imperium conflict anywhere in the galaxy without Space Marines showing up to save the day. Sisters, AdMech, or Imperial Guard only get front billing on conflicts the Imperium is fated to lose.
>out of images>no one baking new threadYou can tell how dead the /40kg/ community is by the fact that this keeps happening now
>>98313447More like 4 billion psykers if the 1k a day thing is accurate.
>>98313573it just means that this thread is so intellectual the posters can have profound discussions without a visual crutch :^^)
>>98313154Exodite will be $190 msrp and $250 on ebaySn*ggas will be worth $10
>>98313577He's talking about the original gestalt, not the ones who get eaten
>>98312043Ayyo they gave the black lion nigga he own model nigga shit's platinum nigga same OC as well nigga they a bunch of biters nigga they really be grinding they imagination dead sharp nigga someone's finna get stabbed on it nigga
I hope we get a codex roapmap soonNeed GSC one fast
>>98313430vashtorr
The red corsair box has exactly as many helmeted heads as models, so the only fully helmeted configuration is 8 scowlies and 2 beakies. A bit disappointing but amazing kit nonetheless>>98313619>>98313577neither, I meant 10 thousand years of psyker sacrifices but had a brainfart.
>>98313642Rumors have been all over the place but Custodes seems to be a recurring one for one of the first two Codexes after Orks/SM. I've seen several others mentioned but GSC isn't one of them I'm afraid
>>98313693>The red corsair box has exactly as many helmeted heads as models, so the only fully helmeted configuration is 8 scowlies and 2 beakies. A bit disappointing but amazing kit nonethelessfor its price it should have been 10 dudes DESU but, agreed, its very nice
Sorry for delay phoneposting from workImage LimitNew Thread>>98313708>>98313708>>98313708
>>98311345>>98311350Gue'vesa do get fire warrior equipment, don't know where the belief they don't comes from. Just the old rules for them?>pulse carbine>drones>electromag grenades>tau vox techhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/C7x5RnXT/psychic-awakening-in-harmony-restored/
I didn't play 10th and now looking at marines I feel like I have lost all frame of reference for what is good. Will probably be bringing the following soon, liberator assault group or legacy of grace + angelic host:>2x captain w/ jump pack (one relic one t hammer)>chaplain (inferno pistol)>terminator librarian (storm bolter)>death company dread (multi melta)>land raider (everything)>2x5 assault intercessors with jump packs (one power weapon each)>1x3 centurion assault squad (melta gun, assault launchers)>2x6 sanguinary guard (banner, sword, 2 inferno pistols each)>1x5 assault terminators (lightning claws)>1x10 vanguard veterans (plasma pistols)
>>98312043Even reddit hates it...
>>98313749wtf i love it now
>>98313430They are chaos undivided and don't worship any of the gods.They are still corrupted however.
>>98310580Force org chart was the only reason to take troops and even then people took the cheapest, smallest units possible.
>>98312731I like that
>>98314422it unironically makes more sense than most speculations on who the emperor is (besides the backstory given straight up back in the day>Hates the chaos gods and wants them all dead>Master of magic, wielding a big fucking sword>Already survived the end of a world, destroyed others, seems like he has a large chance of doing it again>Chaos gods thoroughly enjoy him even though he hates themSo the idea of him taking a completely different approach, only to end up right back where he started is funny
>>98311384Peak
>>98310339faggot has been so slow to these
