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>I HATE SPACE NERDS!!!
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LOOK OUT, MR WARMASTER, HE'S BEHIND Y-
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>>98313750god that helmet is so fucking gay
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>>98311345Why are Imperial fags so retarded? In Death Rider novel, the Gue'vesa and Fire Warriors were indistinguishable because they had the same gear.In the Broken Sword story, the Gue'vesa were all fire warriors geared with their own tank and one of them used a battle suit.
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I thought the point of the Tau WAS that they're a rising burgeoning civilization destined for a harsh downfall like mankind and the Eldar so currently things look pretty good for them in comparison to everyone else but inevitably they'll get fucked
>>98313759>Why are Imperial fags so retarded?Mostly they don't read nu-fluff because it's filled with DEI.
>>98313759whoever wrote those trampled over tau fluff. the fire warriors are extremely prideful about the stuff they use, battlesuits in particular are such a honour that they consider exclusively theirs that there was widespread indignation at the very idea of giving battlesuit weapons to vespid squads.
>>98313774It's such a disgrace for tzeentch to be stuck with fleshless faggots.
So for anyone who cares I did bring the 8 telemons to a local tourney and went 2-0 the first day.
>>98313776yeah, but also their philosophy may or may not actually work and allow them to win the great struggle against their fall, unlike the eldar's and the humans'.although it's far more entertaining to consider it a 80/20 chance in favour of the catastrophe.
>>98313774Looks sick, I would make the right powerpack bulb into a demon eye though
>>98313800>but also their philosophy may or may not actually work and allow them to winevery codex says this about every faction
>want to get some beastmen for kitbashing>ten man boxes are cheaper>but the twenty man/thirty man boxes are way cheaper on a per model basis>not sure if i actually want twenty of these guysthe eternal conundrum
>>98313787>grog with dogshit taste can't handle the best chaos designsit's like pottery, it rhymes
>>98313759both "the gue'vesa use standard imperial gear" and "the gue'vesa are indistinguishable from fire warriors" are stupid takes
>>98313780It's a variety of sources from GW rulebooks to novels.The most recent Gue'vesa story has a Gue'vesa armed with a rail rifle and hunting Tyranids.> theirs that there was widespread indignation at the very idea of giving battlesuit weapons to vespid squads.Did you make that up? I recall Hivestorm saying the opposite. The Shas respect the Vespids so much that they allow them to wield suit systems.
>>98313811Read the Death Rider.The Krieg are killing Gue'vesa and Fire Warriors, they couldn't tell them apart.
>>98313808i like the sorcerers but the rank and file guys are kind of tacky compared to the other gods little guys
I want to paint my dudes but I don't want to take out any of my painting equipment.
is there a pooptube channel that does shorter well-edited battle reports like this for newer editions? https://youtu.be/187Qslf6ykQ
Anybody playing GSC this edition? are twisted helix and abberrant lists fun? i feel like the last two editions it was go neophytes and riderunners or fuck off to play Tyranids.
>>98313744lol
>>98313755*so fucking kino
>>98313805no, no it doesn'tand in the tau's case it's actually both the writer in outside interview and eldrad in-setting saying as muchturns out the trick to not fall in the hands of chaos is to not bite their baits, farsight is essentially described as winning against the temptations of khorne by simply side stepping and meditating for two minutes instead of acting hastily in passion I'm not a fan of how it's presented, but zen bullshit being a hardcounter to chaos at least is consistent in all warhammer settings
>>98313837presumably it's easier for tau because their souls don't have as much presence in the warp
Inquiry from a nogames starting up an army: Is 40k inherently fun to play, or is it more of a side thing like golf where you do it while hanging out with your lgs buddies? Stuff like the movement phase and all the measuring looks unfun and leads me to think that it's a golf-type game.
>>98313837 lame
>>98313820The first step is always the hardest and all that.
>>98313836never beating The Allegations (TM)
>>98313847the "games" have always just been an excuse to show off your models. There is zero strategy or skill, it's all luck and what models you bring.
>>98313808I never really paid attention to this guys paintjob but damn that Ahriman that gets posted here occasionally is so much better than this, what the hell
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98313847mostly the second.
>>98313780it's a big galaxy, different groups at different times have different attitudes or access to gear. stop being so autistic about canon, guys, that's not what 40k is about.
>other Guard players bitching artillery is literally unplayable>last couple of games easily see both my basilisk and artillery team getting their points back and then some
>>98311345why is bohemond such a seething retarded faggot? >you are a tourist if you quote the opening crawl of the setting!calling people tourists just proves you're a secondary
How long until all the other chapters get retired and we just have ultramarines?
>here's my oc faction that's tolerant and loves xenos and uses ai and they're immune to any of these things going bad
>>98313859he looks a lot better when you do osl from the disk
>>98313847>Is 40k inherently fun to playthe idea of it is more entertaining than the thing itselfpainting can be fun if you have the patience to be proficient at it and not treat it as a chorethe most fun parts of actually playing is seeing the painted models set against other painted models on a nice battlefield*and of course hanging out with friends or even strangers who happen to have similar inclinations*which means that for the VAST majority of people it's a miserable experience they gaslight into liking because of sunk costs
>>9831384740k can be fun, but that's subjective so it may not your type of fun.
Fellas, I'm thinking about pursuing an undertaking. Let's just say, hypothetically, I had been collecting 40k boxes as they go out of print (rn I've got lootas, the old assclapper boyz, old trukk, and old terminator sculpts all nib) and I bought pic related. How legally raped would I be if I scanned each individual part purely for archival purposes and hosted definitely-not-obfuscated magnet links for said parts?
>>98313887You'll be fine so long as you hide behind 7 proxies.
>>98313864I'm not being autistic, I'm just saying that the fluff elsewhere was established to be different, I don't mind either or both things existing, but both stances make sense:-guevesa look like shit if they're just imperial guard painted yellow, so some tau equipment being given to them is cool-the tau are a rigid caste system and the fire warriors are very proud, so some things like battlesuits being reserved for them and them alone adds depth
>>98313831I do. Biosanctic lists are fun, it's not as lethal as before as you lost +1 attack on your charge but you get +2 to your charge rolls instead. Patriarch with the enhancement gets to be 3dmg, -3 AP and can shred stuff. I once killed Morvenn Vahl via precision by inflicting 9 mortal wounds, it was insane.You can still run Neophytes with the 1dp Xenocults Masses detachment, you can include a unit of 20 Neophytes + Benefictus and get a great gunline with lethal hits & rerolls to hit. Ridgerunner is just too good not to take, I'd suggest running two minimum.Here's a photo from the game I had yesterday, the madlad managed to take down 5 infernus marines with his demolition charges alone.
I'm still in shock from today's space marine reveal. What the fuck man.
>>98313831What do you mean by twisted helix? biosantic is a bit more usable but it can only double up with the neo detachment and the heroes detachment the second of which is a bit disappointing.
>>98313876I respect the effort but that gold looks so weird
>>98313887scans require working on the files manually to be made as flawless as you would wantgw will come knocking the moment the link is online, and will come knocking at you if you're even remotely attached to the link
>>98313900Can't wait until they reveal what he gives rerolls to.
warhammer 40k? more like warhammer for-the-gays
>>98313900He is super cool.They need to redo Guilliman, they can't have have Kaius beating him on drip.
>>98313887You'll be fine because you'll upload them through a coded download link that will expire a few hours afterwards. You'll do it a few times to make sure it spread, then your deed is done, the internet will spread it, for free, sporadically.Your name will not be known, but your heroism and courage will forever echo in these halls, but foremost in our hearts.
this level of detail should literally be completely normal for vanguard/sternguard/veteran marines in general and not character specific
>>98313868They are going to save that for 40K end times when they kill off 90% of the setting except for ultramarines.
>>98313907full rerolls of all rolls in a 12inch aura. sounds balanced for an ultramarine character
>>98313898>Biosanctic lists are funWhy are you lying to yourself, 40k isn't fun.
>>98313918Sorry, but people complained old marines were "christmas trees" so now marines will be as bland and generic as possible.Also copy paste samey shit is easier to make.
>>98313919end times saved fantasy from being raped by gw for a decade in retrospect it was a good thing
>>98313887upload them on telegram like everyone else
>>98313893I suppose I'm also questioning the viabilty of torrents for keeping it decentralized. Most file sharing I've been a part of inevitably gets leaked & nuked.
>>98313906not only that but GW has an army of fanboy faggots that will literally tattle on you for good boy points and head pats.
Are xeno factions in 40k getting less models because they just sell less than Marines in general OR is it that there just aren't as many xenos players / enthusiasts? I'd love for Necrons to get separate faction books or whatever at some point. They talk about other Necron Dynasties and what not but they are all treated the same. Whereas marines get Imperial Fists, Blood Angels, Ultramarines etc. All with complete lore and even unit types etc. Why is that?
>>98313930This.Killing WHFB and oldmarines preserved them.
>>98313918so kitbash it like that anon did with his vanguard veterans in /wip/ last thread
>>98313918I AM KORNHOLIUS BRING ME TEEPEE FOR MY BUNGHOLE
>>98313934Warhammer is about Space Marines.
>>98313918they drowned that dude in every ultramarines gimmick they have. even the tactical rock got ornamentation. trash aesthetics.
>>98313934Xenos has gotten more love than any other faction in the last couple editions. Very few outdated models, tons of brand new sculpts, lots of big refreshes.
>>98313934It's a Space Marine game, I understand Xeno being less represented but even CSM can do with more love.>t. xenos player
>>98313934>Are xeno factions in 40k getting less models because they just sell less than Marines in general OR is it that there just aren't as many xenos players / enthusiasts?yes
>>98313939kek'd
James, when are the exodites dropping without the damn sniggas...
>>98313708How do I get my glup shitto put into the setting?
GW fags be like >I just bought the latest bing bing yahoo Nintendo game on release that I pre-ordered and aparently it's all about Mario and there's very little focus on the Goombas, what the hell?
>>9831396040k fans...
>>98313900THE BLACK LION OF ULTRAMAR...
why do they hate him
>>98313934marinefags make up 50% of the playerbase, with the remaining 50% made up of every other army. they will always get more releases before any other army aside from whoever the starter edition big bad is, and even then they'll get more models.>>98313941>nu40k and age of sigmarines is about space marineswhy not just go play HH at that point? the entire game and setting is made purely for marinefags and primarchslop powerscalers.
>>98313975soon brother
my raveners came in the mail. do I paint them blue to match vanguard organisms, or red to match everything else?
>>98313978>why not just go play HH at that pointuhhh yeah? it's a better game
>>98313975He's for the 40th anniversary anon we already know
>[Vox Scratch]>YOU'RE NOW LISTENING TO >[landraider crash sound]>102.3 REAL MALEVOLENT FM!>[WARHORN]>WHERE WE PLAY NOTHING BUT ROCK, PUNK, AND MORE ROCK! >[Artillery fire]>[Angry Newt stomping]>[Bones Breaking]This ain't your zealot's station!>[Human Shields starts playing]
do the exodites have sex with their dinosaurs
>>98313858>>98313863>>98313881>>98313883In that case I'll just keep going for cool kits across all the armies and not really care about getting my points and roles.
>>98313997>missed a green textI'll go get my head crushed by an amphibian
>>98313996nah, we're finally getting a big E model for 30k + golden throne diorama for 40k.
>>98313918Agreed.
named character minis are gay
>>98314008ancient wisdom
>>98314008>>98314012zoomers like you larping are adorable
>>98313865Guard players are notoriously whiny. Like it can be a hard army to run, but most of the time it’s piss easy to stomp people. Dorns are purpose built to mulch MEQ armies and they’ve got enough bodies to force shitty target selection.
>>98314008Agreed, all the eldar phoenix lords should be removed from the game.
>zoomers like you larping are adorable
we are on ultramarine wave number 3 in a year
>>98313975Just convert him.
>>983140205aam i gonna make it
>>98314018Lykhis should be removed from the game and added to Japanese porn comic book artist circles
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
im looking forward to all the steam workshop retro mods for the new total war 40ksome nice anon will take all the primaris stuff out and we will finally get our dawn of war sequel after 20 years of waitingbite me you all know im right
>>98314015I'm 38.
>>98314028now post the real picture of her
>>98314020He got under your skin I see
>>98314031>some nice anon will take all the primaris stuff out and we will finally get our dawn of war sequel after 20 years of waitingTruth
>>98314008As it ever was, should have just been a generic Champion for the Honour Guard squad
why are 90% of the named commissars ultra reasonableyeah it's fun to subvert it if they're usually psychotic but then it's no longer a subversion if it's the norm
>>98313934It's easy to shit out a new marine modelAdd to that the legions of drooling retards who will instantly fall in love with it as long as it's a marine
>>98314031Hey that's cool and all but take it to >>>/v/
>>98314042I love these guys>mk4>armor mixingMiddlehammer was the golden age of marines.We'll never have marines this good ever again.
>>98314048I'm sorry but Janitor applications are closed.
>>98314044Same reason 90% of marines are super reasonable. The fans want a noblebright imperium
>Most dangerous human relic from back in the day of 40k is the Bible>Hidden in the deepest vault, locked in chains, force fields, etcWhy would the Bible be dangerous? Is it because it teaches people to be pacifist or some shit?
>>98314044Most BL writers suck, that's why.
>>98314038Your turkish hair transplant?
>>98314003You sound like your scared of new experiences because of the possibility of discomfort, i.e. a bitch.
>>98314031Why not mod DoW1 and overhaul the graphics?
>>98314058Because it's all true and the emperor is the antichrist
>>98314044Because Cain became popular so every Commissar just became Diet Cain and GW realized that it was way easier to sell super heroes then it is to sell everyone is actually an evil piece of shit so that’s why you end up with gay shit like Ultramarines crying and pissing themselves when a terrorist used terrorist tactics because that’s “totally not cool bros”
>>98314067prison anal rape victim rationalization
>>98313918Nah, that's special character level.
>>98314044Gaunt was the exception.Cain is a parody of BlackadderThe rest is shit writing because GW wants to appeal to normies and normies never liked grim dark.
>>98313960HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>98313847>Is 40k inherently fun to playModern editions, no. Older editions, depends, but even at its best, it benefitted heavily from playing with good buddies. It's more of the "golf" thing you're describing, which we call "beer and pretzels" when referring to tabletop games.
>>98314075Is that coming from experience?
The fact no one wants to admit is that Night Lords school shooters are the only true 40k fans
>>98314042They already have a champion.
Hot take, Colonel Schaeffer was way more badass than any named commissar.
>>98314083>n-no uzzz
>>98314058God is real and his son died for our sins.
>>98313934The imbalance of releases is a vicious cycle.What's older gets more and what gets more is more popular and what is more popular gets more.Marines established a foothold early on because their simple and blunt aesthetic was the ideal one for the level of details of minis at the time and it just spiralled due to the cycle over time also because by making them the designated posterboys range at all times gw has created an additional vicious system where gw wants newcomers to get entangled in collecting marines because then they have a wider range to collect, plus various ramifications of it, and in order to make that more appealing it has to get more stuff and more frequently.What also helps is that if you're a fan of an imperial faction, then it's far easier, as a collector, to branch into another imperial faction, while that jump is less likely between factions that aren't connected with one another. it's a silly and autistic tendency, but it's one that inarguably exists, and inevitably gives the imperium the edge again.The final nail in this uneven support is the worldbuilding itself: people like to imagine the setting as a neutral ground with multiple opposing factions, each with its own relations and histories and societies; but the setting is far more accurately described not as "a galaxy with multiple factions" but "the imperium with its multiple enemies", everything is heavily centralised and this creates a situation where for every line of fluff added to any given faction, the imperium gets double or triple that. and of course it's harder to get as engrossed into something where you can know way less.
>>98314044Same reason the guard are only ever depicted fighting morally worse xenos/chaos who will kill everyone they know and love and not brutalizing or raping civilians and their own penal soldiers or the like (the mere implication of which lead to mossacannibalis content being banned from a bunch of warhammer reddits)>it's not heckin' wholesome!!!
>>98314099The good news is that GW is not THAT cold in calculating who gets what and the wider success of their company and IP is giving them many occasions not only to expand on what's popular but to explore what's very niche and the artists' own whims, making this a time of unprecedented amount of support for any and all components of 40k.The bad news is that necrons, and many other factions, are very unlikely to see supplements for their subfactions or subfactions specific aesthetics or kits, the approach of giving them kits that can be used by all their subfactions is much safer, and what you should do is explore the subfaction you want by adding the flair you want yourself and specialising on the appropriate units. necrons are effectively 3 mini ranges in one (with bridges between them): you have the basic royal dynasties and their warriors, you have the insectoid robot servants of their technomancers, and you have the mad killbots with the destroyers and flayers. and each of these 3 themes can be pursued, is getting slowly expanded, and debatably has a big ctan exemplifying each (respectively the deceiver, the void dragon and the nightbringer).so necrons could be said to have their own subfactions in a way, it's just that you have to extract them from the pool of generic units.
>>98314093What'd you do time for?
>>98314058The Emperor wears a fedora
>>98313787You can be a Tzeentch worshipping marine without being a Thousand Fags.
>>98314106I infringed... on Games Workshop's... intellectual copyright
>>98314117You deserved everything that you got.
>>98314002Only eldar women and eldar femboys do it with the dinosaurs, eldar men prefer human women.
>>98314100>mossacannibalisBased
>>98314122Beastiality is disgusting. No self respecting Eldar would ever fuck a monkeigh.
>>98314132Kek
>>98314116>you can be a god-marked warband without being a carbon copy of the god-marked legions
but enough about anal rape, so what about those warhammers, which factions still need a warhammer?
>>98313918Nah that's Chapter Master/Captains tier of bling.
>>98314132I've seen multiple videos of Eldar and dark Eldar fucking horses, explain that.
>>98314058>Why would the Bible be dangerous? Is it because it teaches people to be pacifist or some shit?No, it's because religious belief outside faith in the God Emperor leads to Chaos, and christianity in 40k is no exception. Double so with a book so influential in human history. For example this daemon: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ragged_Knight was spawned by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_B%C3%A9ziersThe Koran and the Torah are probably also banned.
>>98314136I’m planning a chapter of tzeench marine /mydudes/
>>98314137which factions need more anal rape?
>>98314142>nuGW BL fedora slop fanfic
>>98314123even if it's just because he has a guro fetish, i still appreciate how realistically awful his perspective on 40k is
>>98314117>A man once tried to C&D me>I ate his Knight Questoris with some fava beans and a nice chianti>[microplastic hiss]
>>98314094Yes, the God-Emperor is real and Sanguinius died for our sins
>>98314152he makes reddit chimp out on sight now
>>98314123His stuff is so fucking good, man
How can anyone be offended by such wholesome art?
>>98314164real
>>98313991probably blue if that's the vanguard patternthe real challenge, what do you do when The Red Terror arrives?
>>98314166You'd be offended if you're a closeted gay man that tries to cope that he's straight by fucking a dude that says he's a chick.
>>98314151>didn't read Realms of Chaos>doesn't know that "God" doesn't exist in 40k>doesn't know that the actual 30k-40k metaplot is about the Emperor becoming the God of humanity>or how the HH novels deliberately play with christians in ancient Rome tropesIf you weren't a retarded chriscuck, you would appreciate how the actual lore subverts and carries to the extreme the Foundation and Dune tropes of science good/religion bad
>>98314179he also gets soijak party faggots moralfagging on his xitter comments
>>98314168isn't pinheading more of a slaanesh thing?
>>98314166If artist is a wannabe pedo and he's not dead, that's a taint difficult to forgive for any decent person, no matter how good he is (and he's great, I agree)
>>98314058The same reason state atheism was enforced by real world Communist regimes. The people in charge don't want any competition when it comes to the people's loyalties or moral/legal structures that aren't directly under their control.
>>98314199the nails are biting anon>>98314201oh noooo the heckin pixels
i was under the impression that /40kg/ is the /tg/ shitposting central all the lore and waagfags still collaborate here and nothing never gets resolved one way or the anotheramirite
>>98314201All this pedo hysteria just getting pathetic at this point.It's like saying all people who play or in anyway otherwise like Night Lords, Dark Eldar or Slaanesh armies, are all actually sociopathic sadists who want to rape and torture innocent people. Or calling all World Eater players want to go around killing people with their bare hands in a rage fueled psychosis.
>>98314227you need your drives checked asap
>>98314168>tiny world eater on the backpackit's the little details that really make it
>>98313991how balanced are the two sides?
warhammer simulates the inherent joy of experiencing murder. of killing people. your brain is hardwired to enjoy these things after millions of years of evolution. you get direct pleasure from doing this in games and seeing it in movies and tv. you are evil and need to go to jail for playing this game.
Got my girls all done and ready to get put away
>>98314230Actually, I don't have any Mossa art saved, so I'm good.
>>98314152While I don't like guro, I still appreciate it, if that makes sense. It fits 40k and I'll even say it's missing.40k is described as a horrible place, but because GW is a mainstream store with broad appeal, it can't be too weird.It's like nurgle (at least old nurgle): I find it utterly disgusting, it grosses me out, but it's an important part of the setting.>>98314164Amen. I love the extra detail + taking things into new interesting directions, also known as creativity.
>>98314253
>>98314142>No, it's because religious belief outside faith in the God Emperor leads to Chaos, and christianity in 40k is no exception.Why is faith in the Emperor an exception, newfag? Spoilers: it isn't
>>98314259KLOVIS MY GOAT
>the black templars wouldn't mistreat their navigators, that's grimderp!>the cherubs? no they're not really babies, they're vat clones, that'd be grimderp!>servitors are actually mostly made up of clones and only the worst of the worst criminals! they'd never take random people for extremely minor crimes and do that to them, that'd be grimderp!>Space marines wouldn't kill their allies, that's grimderp...>Actually, if an inquisitor blows up a planet without a good reason, he'll get in big trouble! The inquisition is reasonable, it's grimderp when they blow things up for little reason>it's a good thing the primarchs are returning to bring some much needed sanity to the imperium, things were getting grimderp with things not getting better!
>>98314270when you don't gatekeep idiots from a franchise you like, they'll taint and destroy it until it's unrecognizable from its original incarnation.
>>98314288Retard-kun...
So I was browsing the new nid rules on the community site and saw this.Any other photos of the new Red Terror, cause this is the first I'm hearing of it. I'm not exactly up to date though.
>>98314168The nails are biting anon!
>>98314270This guy gets it.Real life is ridiculous, people make choices and perform horros that would make any grimderp look reasonable, yet some retards can't wrap their head around the craziness of life, nor how a fictional universe like 40k should be even crazier.exactly as >>98314160 presented>I want it to be weird!>Okay that's too weird
>>98314261Yeah it's not my best face
>>98314298It's alright. I'm not a fan of the straight talons and they fucked up the face shape.
>>98314142>No, it's because religious belief outside faith in the God Emperor leads to Chaosreligious belief in the emperor leads to chaos too
i feel like warhammer has ebbs and flows of writers dicksucking their pets and then the next guy that comes after feels like it's his job to rape them as a way of ironing out the bumps
>>98314302>Real life is ridiculous, people make choices and perform horros that would make any grimderp look reasonable, yet some retards can't wrap their head around the craziness of life, nor how a fictional universe like 40k should be even crazier.Finally someone said it. The shit in 40k that normies who watch loretubers think is so InSaAaNe AnD gRiMdArK isn't even half as bad as real history.
>>98314298he got released in a kill team box
>>9831404440k writers and "fans" don't actually like 40k and want to make it chungus friendly
>>98314279nta but in effect it's impossible to gatekeep since from Day 1 the fanbase is still infested by shallowniggers who have no standards, and retards who are just obnoxious and give ammo to anyone to mock gatekeeping.The only way to gatekeep might not be guarding the gate, but putting the gate on the top of the mountains, as in: making something that's so hard to get into and niche in the first place that nobody but the people actually interested in it will come and stick around.You cannot gatekeep 40, GW has even lower standards than a retarded fanboy.
>>98314313Your feeling comes from your biases and general ignorance on the fluff, the setting is quite stable in how the factions are presented.The one most notable exception is necrons but because they went through a complete reinvention and rework of their role within the setting, not because a writer took them as their pets or favourites.
>>98314321Maybe one day we'll have a fan animation or comic that gives us proper visions into the madnesses of 40k. A man can dream.
I like orks :D
>>98314266>>98314312belief in the God-Emperor feeds him in the Warp, but that it's not the same as feeding Chaos
>>98314270>>the black templars wouldn't mistreat their navigators, that's grimderp!To be fair it is kinda retarded. The BT's entire goal is to go around crusading the cleansing the Imperium of the alien, the mutant and heretic filth. But to do that they need space ships, and to navigate with those space ships they need the help and collaboration of Navigators. So your only way of navigating the Warp and making the crusade at all possible is pretty retarded.It's like beating your tractor with a sledgehammer because the engine won't start, breaking it more isn't going to help.>>the cherubs? no they're not really babies, they're vat clones, that'd be grimderp!>>servitors are actually mostly made up of clones and only the worst of the worst criminals! they'd never take random people for extremely minor crimes and do that to them, that'd be grimderp!Cherubs being mostly vatgrown clones is the actual canon. Same goes for most servitors, condemned criminals or random innocent people do get servitorized on a whim but they are less common.Also it makes sense that admech vatgrows servitors considering the amount of tech that requires servitor to even function. So just using only criminals or innocent people isn't efficient enough.>>Space marines wouldn't kill their allies, that's grimderp...No. They do, do that. A lot, a hell of a lot. It's why Black Templars, Flesh Tearers and Flesh Eaters are feared.>>Actually, if an inquisitor blows up a planet without a good reason, he'll get in big trouble! The inquisition is reasonable, it's grimderp when they blow things up for little reasonThis is true though? Exterminatus is something that's not used lightly.>>it's a good thing the primarchs are returning to bring some much needed sanity to the imperium, things were getting grimderp with things not getting better!Guilliman being back hasn't fixed anything. In fact he's the one getting grey hairs due to the clusterfuck that's the modern Imperium.
>>98314350yes, it is, the bad end is him becoming a 5th chaos godthe emperor did not want to be worshipped as a god, he knew shit would get bad not to mention the people who in their zealotry for the emperor end up slipping towards one of the other chaos gods, which is also the argument as to why all religions had to be expunged according to the emperor
>>98314321>Dude, you're getting into 40k? Heh... watch out, bro, this is a real GRIMDARK setting, wait till you hear about the Daemonculaba bro, that shit is so freakin grimdark!!!And then you read about it and it's literally out grimdarked by fucking alien vs predator 2
>>98314362>the emperor did not want to be worshipped as a god, he knew shit would get badhe did, but the lore is deliberately ambiguos about what if he actually believed that or it was a sort of reverse psychology.There's lots of hints about the God-Emperor having been his plan all along.
>>98314382That scene in a Deathwatch book with GSC and pregnant women was even more grimdark, but few people have read it
>>98314302>most cruel and bloody regime imaginable but it can't be as bad as the soviet union, the nazis, or the khmer rouge because that's grimderpthe imperium is kinda mogged in terms of stupid evil by the average shit in the qing dynasty tbqh
>>98314259You are quite right. 40k needs it's grotesqueries, it needs to have the unpalatable and unsightly every bit as much as it needs it's tongue-in-cheek and it really is not enough for it to just be passive little blurbs or snippets. 40k should have a lot more gross and edgy stuff, but investment bankers say no.
>>98314386there's no ambiguity or reverse psychology, he didn't want to be made a god because that's a dire fucking situationending on the throne wasn't plan A, if it ever was in a plan, it's like plan Z or some shit like that, it's the worst case scenario short of the instant eradication of mankind during the heresy
>>98314406>but investment bankers say noWe need to deal with them.
>>98314386>There's lots of hints about the God-Emperor having been his plan all along.Nope, you've been misled by sloptube lore. Horus has visions of the future, and believes that the horrible future he foresaw (current 40k) is what the Emperor always planned, but Chaos conveniently leaves out the reason why this future sucks and the Emperor is being worshiped as a god is because Horus rebels and ruins the Emperor's plan for humanity. Horus's reason for rebelling is, ironically, that he did not realize the future he saw is the one he himself created by turning on Big E. The Emperor is handed a chance at godhood in End and the Death Part 2, and after a moment's temptation, decides to throw it away and spit in Chaos's face, even if it means remaining a mere man.
>>98313908the warp? more like the larp
>>98314400This>>98314406To be fair since most (if not all) great artists have left GW, I don't trust modern GW to have the capacity to deliver on that.The closest we got is thin bolter guy.>what abour writers?Now that, is grim.
>>98314407lots of /r/40klorefags are obsessed with the idea that the myriad bad writing must really be because of theory narrative shit, which authors sometimes lean into with stuff like the board is set because it allows them to get away with the many inconsistencies and nonsense character motivesand people don't want to admit that chaos basically got nearly everything it wanted out of the heresy and emperor was only able to make things phyrric in a few ways at best because it makes them sad if the bad guys won (even though it happens all the time irl)
>>98314406This is why you should just make your own lore with your own friends. It is always going to be more enjoyable then whatever Saturday morning space marine slop GW is shilling.
can't believe they did a miniature for THE Kaius Koronius... easily my favourite character in the setting
>>98314307>>98314322>KT shit that will be sold out forever>and to pretend it's actually a kill team, here's a box of termagants and a ripper swarm, whatever who the fuck cares>not even in a box with the pre-existing ravener kill teamthanks, I fucking hate it.If the model was just a Mawlock it wouldn't be so bad, but trying to call this the new RT is honestly kind of crap.GW has been letting the lightning out of the bottle with Tyranid design for years now.>no eyeless nids!>no head plates that look like the xenomorph queen!>if a tyranid is a leader make it because it has a cthullu brain bug on it, those are great and cool and we love those!>give the screamer killer male pattern baldness!
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>>98314406when I was first hearing about this shit back in 3rd edition, it was the sheer magnitude of human suffering that really leapt out at me about it.this isn't a setting about BIGDICKIUS TITUS AND HIS THREE MAN SQUAD AS THEY BEAT BACK THE HORRORS OF THE--no, It's about the yawning horror of outer space made manifest as deamons and alien horrors and the promise of inevitable doom.
>>98314466what the fuck are you crying about? most of those elements were already around the kill team box is about a spin-off gamemode where a playing team faces off against an npc "boss", and it will be available individually soon enough
speaking of the waning of grimdark, one of the dlc missions for multiplayer in space marine 2 is to help save some cadians who've got turned into batteries by a random daemon/sorcerer of tzeentch, who cackles at you and literally verbatim says "your precious cadians" when mocking the marines and it's so fucking retarded because those guardsmen are going to get executed or servitorized or whatever the moment they get out on account of all the fucking chaos corruption that must be on them, and the idea that space marines would care to actively save guardsmen for that purpose was insane i was already annoyed by how they shaved off most of the darker elements of the setting because "c-can't scare the newfags!" but this part was the most egregious one i think
>>98314407>>98314416I have read all these books, including some you must have missed like the Valdor novel or The Path of Heaven.The so-called "Golden path" is suspect as fuck, and the Emperor has been cheating and mind wiping people since the start.This is not my headcanon, the writers leave clues so the reader chooses if he takes what's said at face value or pays attention to the hints.Remember how Guilliman's memories of his visit to the Emperor do not match what Trajann Valoris saw?
>>98314488>This is not my headcanonyes, it is
>>98314445>To be fair since most (if not all) great artists have left GW, I don't trust modern GW to have the capacity to deliver on that.Artist of picrel still work for them
>>98314486>KDM:40KHoly mother of keks, the absolute creative bankrupcy.
>chaos knights are just knights but black
>>98314488The meta answer is that Chris Wraight, Alan Bligh and Laurie Golding (maybe among with others) were part of a faction at Black Library/Forgeworld who wanted to push a "Heresy was totally the plan" angle. They did eventually lose out though which is why there's very little evidence for it, and later HH books completely crush the theory, The End and the Death especially completely shitting on the idea.
>>98314501Have you read the Valdor book? No? though so
>>98314486>it will be available individually soon enoughwill it? everyone seems to have it but scalpers are charging $200+ for it
>>98313868ENOUGH FROM THE ULTRAMARINES
>>98314487>SM2Haven't finished it. In the mean times I've finished Dawn of War 2 half a dozen times.Marines being made into literal shining knights in armor, savior of mankind will never not be funny to me>that memeI dun git it, but it's sendin' me sides n'to orbit>>98314502Fuck I loved this piece from the moment I saw it on the cover of that old white dwarf magazine.Does he work on 40k? What are some of his latest work?
>>98314517>will it?yes, before the next kill team box releases
>>98314522>Does he work on 40k? What are some of his latest work?There's stuff on his Artstation https://www.artstation.com/kingmong
>>98314517scalpers are retarded, look up the minecraft cape scalping disaster and realize they're not an indicator of anythingall killteam kits are parted out into their individual sets a few months after their bundle release, the only exception being the marine vs DG starter box
>>98314484this guy gets it. unfortunately that makes less money than giant manchildren being sold to actual manchildren who have tens of thousands of dollars of disposable income to spend on warhammer. you are simply being outbid for the future of warhammer. Whale Monetization comes from everything that gets big enough
>>98314502and MTG has a ton of talented artists employed by WOTC but that doesn't mean anything because the art direction is ass
>>983145376th-9th edition was a truly awful time, but it's gotten a bit better in recent years
>>98314515This, its simply meta reasons. Writers not being on the same page and the direction of the studio changing multiple times over the 30 years of the studio.You should never treat warhammer as a book series with a single cohesive vision, and you should absolutely pick and choose what you want to actually incorporate into your view of the setting.
did a quick test on a vespid scheme, going for hornets.
> space marines win> model reveal> look inside> unusuable by 90% of space marine armies because they arent playing the blueberry scoutsthanks GW! The eternal monkey paw for space marines.
>>98314488>This is not my headcanon>but you gotta ignore stuff at face value and read between the lines and get schizophrenic about hints and clues
>>983145409th is when it started getting better again finally, they hired Lewis Jones.
>>98314522>I dun git it, but it's sendin' me sides n'to orbitsomething something prussian spiritmakes me laff
>>98314529FVARK IT'S THE KNIGHTS GUY
>>98314488The Golden Path ended when Magnus broke the Webway anon. It was the road to the best possible future for humanity, not the road to godhood. The entire novel Master of Mankind is Big E coping and seething about the fact that Magnus just ruined his dream, the thing that was supposed to lie at the end of the Golden Path. Of course, you can absolutely suggest the Golden Path was a lie from day one, a trick Chaos used to make the Emperor abandon his most important principles (don't traffic with the Ruinous Powers) and do something incredibly stupid like creating an army of immortals who are easily corrupted by Chaos. You know, handing Chaos exactly what it needs to finally start making big plays and destroy the universe. But it definitely had nothing to do with the Emperor becoming a god. We have Word of God that his plan was always to elevate humanity, not himself. See also: Abaddon's Crimson Path, a similar trick being played on Abaddon by convincing him that by simply killing the Emperor, he'll somehow save humanity from Chaos's predations (???? Abaddon is frankly utterly retarded)
>>98314502tze kun chin is, no question, the single most underrated warhammer artist ever
>>98314568ozempic looking nigga, looks goofy af like the dawn of war 3 models.not nearly THICC enough.
>>98314529Oh shit he did the I CAST FIST art
>>98314568I think he's gotten a real job at GW rather than being a freelancer anymore
>2026>Have a Decadent Rome faction>Have a British Football Hooligans faction>Have a weeaboo Japan factionWhy still no China or Middle-East faction?
>>98314583>ozempic looking niggaBro what the fuck are you talking about, are you blind or stupid
>>98314585no doubt inspired by picrel
>>98314591>middle east factiontallarn desert raiders and tanith first and only, both have models
>>98314529Cheers>blacked templarGod fucking dammit>>98314557Kek, this will go nicely into my collection I want to make a prussian regiment that's big on military academies, where war is treated with the same reverance as we have for nuclear scientists and neuro-surgeons. All about being the perfect soldier/commander, choregraphed battles and being rewarded for how accurate and effective your strategy/command is. Kriegspiel Regiment: 40k edition.
>>98314591Tau is also the China faction dumbass. It's China, Japan and India.
>>98314594that is so much newer than the imp fist pic>>98314599there's no indian anything in the tau, stop trying to force this meme
>>98314599Despite the caste system, tau is not india inspired
>>98314599Uh Tau are space americans.
>>98314591China is too noblebright for 40k
>>98314515The idea is alive and well in Guy Haley's Dark Imperium series, and other newer books including Echoes of Eternity (Big E possesing Vulkan and gaslighting Magnus) and TEATD, where we're told that Malcador never knew the full scope of the Emperor's plans.>>98314565>you can absolutely suggest the Golden Path was a lie from day one, a trick Chaos used to make the Emperor Not a chaos trick, but a deliberate misdirection by Big E. Vulkan notes how ramshackle the imperial webway was, how unable to work without constant direct intervention by the Emperor.> creating an army of immortals who are easily corrupted by Chaos. You know, handing Chaos exactly what it needs to finally start making big playsAnd also creating an enemy that forces the Imperium to stay stale doing the same for millenia while feeding him with faith>We have Word of God that his plan was always to elevate humanity, not himself. you have what he says to other characters and writers not spoiling the metaplotNote that i'm not saying thatt Big E wanted to be a god out of seeking power for himself. I'm saying that he needs to be a god to beat the Chaos Gods. But to achieve that, he needs to fool everyone. He's a demiurg that created 40k as we know it to trap everyone, including the gods, in a certain future path.Which is a theme repeated again and again in the HH books
>>98314592skinny ass legs, he got them chicken legs going on. proportions are way off.
>>98314607this, the Tau Castes aren't a hierarchy, they're all equals in society. Indian Castes are a fucked up inbred pyramid where the priests, warriors, and merchants bicker about who's actually the most important while the farmers and janitors get literally shit on as worthless scum
>>98314613>the emperor is perfect, and omniscient and infallible and is actually trolling everyone by being in unimaginable pain for 10k years waiting for the starchild to manifest>everything else he said and wanted to do? all fake, this is the real keikakuOR, and hear me out, it wasn't the plan but became it the moment no other option was available anymore, because the heresy was a tragic event
>>98314594god this guy's art is so fucking shit
>>98314545This is why you should never vote for marines in these events. It inevitably leads to GW pushing more Ultramarines.
>>98314618It's ironic how the real world keeps being sometimes more grimdark than 40k.Remember pic related? Turns out that your typical russian assault soldier in Ukraine has barely 2 weeks of training and will probalby die in less than an hour after being sent to assault a position by drones
>>98314634it's not a vote, larper-kun
>>98314613>The idea is alive and well in Guy Haley's Dark Imperium seriesno, Guy Haley very explicitly points out that whatever the Emperor is evolving into, is not a good thing for humanity.>TEATD, where we're told that Malcador never knew the full scope of the Emperor's plans.You definitely didn't read this or any of the other books you claim to have read. The Emperor's perspective is infinitely clear in TEATD that A) Horus was never supposed to turn on him and he intended to redeem him initially before realizing that was impossible, and B) he absolutely rejects the idea of godhood and chooses to live as a man.
>>98314636i'm surprised at how gw was right about drone spam.
>>98314591>China No precedent unlike Cathay for fantasy, so it’ll have to be totally original in a company that now worships the works of long gone artists and writers. >Middle Eastthey have precedent, but there’s little market for it.
>>98314638Do you genuinely think the majority is reporting their actual games? You can’t be that naive.
>>98314618>>98314636I'm thinking the indian caste system would actually be interesting for some imperial sector or some shitThere is actual grimderp I feel, like the 20 hour work shift thing, or how everyone eats corpse starch when there are hundred other shitty food to feed people who aren't stuck on the lower levels of a hive world.
>>98314630You nailed it. The fact there are still idiots trying to argue everything in 40k's long history was the Emperor's keikaku all along, the most hideously over-wrought master plan ever conceived of, baffles me. Why would he go to all the trouble of saving humanity and then destroy it intentionally by handing Chaos W after W? He literally had the keys to eternal victory and separating humanity from its reliance on the Warp in his hand, why would he plan for Magnus to destroy the Webway? If his goal was to ensure humanity would never travel into the Webway so that they would worship him as a god, he could have just not dug up the Webway Gate on Earth in the first place. He could also have just... presented himself as a god to humanity and started the Imperial Cult early for those faith buffs.
>>98314599The Tau use Japanese anime mechsuits and have Japanese accents in the video games. Yeah, their religion is like Daoism, but they're clearly mostly Japan.
>>98314669Worse than any writing problem, it makes everything in the setting pointless and retarded and absolutely no information is reliable because it's all just psychic keikaku bullshit. Might as well not exist if it's that vague.
>>98314591>>98314609>>98314657>cathayToday I will remind them
>>98314630The starchild is the Emperor's safety valve> unimaginable pain> a tragic evenall part of the plan. We're told again and again that the greatest betrayals, tragedies, and struggles fuel unlike anything else the Warp> it wasn't the plan but became it the moment no other option was available anymorethat's a fair interpretation also allowed by the lore, but IMO the hints about it being a red herring are too strong>>98314640> Guy Haley very explicitly points out that whatever the Emperor is evolving into, is not a good thing for humanity.No, that's a fear of the characters in his books, but not what we actually see the Emperor do (possesing the girl and Guilliman, fucking over Nurgle's Garden)>The Emperor's perspective is infinitely clear in TEATDThere's no such thing in that book. We NEVER get the internal PoV of Big E. Mostly only what Malcador or Custodes say.Same for the rest. He even had a card representing Oll Persson all along.
>>98314676>it's all just psychic keikaku bullshit.it's ok when it's space frogs doing it
>>98314669>>98314676It makes perfect sense. Specially if you have read God Emperor of Dune. It's not even original.
https://youtu.be/K-NHbEOSQ8I?si=j2d82cm3x1I3Y3jZTactical rocks... are SOVL now??
>>98314487most of the "good guy" marine chapters would put effort into "saving" IG afflicted by chaos (by which I mean putting them out of their misery via bolter shells to the head), and feel slight anger/sorrow at their fellow warriors suffering such corrputionbut actually saving them goes against most of the existing lore about how dangerous chaos exposure really is and how the Imperium treats it
>>98314669>He literally had the keys to eternal victory and separating humanity from its reliance on the Warp in his hand,That's what he says in Master of Mankind, but was it actually true? There were too many holes in that plan for it to work. Which makes the Emperor stupid unless it was never his real intention.
>>98314700Okay, this rules. I'd even say it roc-
>>98314693Leto's plan is spelled out to us and extremely clear, if the Emperor keikaku was true it'd be vague bullshit because zero information about the character could actually be relied on because it was all lie to an unknown end.
>>98314704indeed, he was ultimately human and thus flawed
>>98314706Kek
>>98314684>that's a fair interpretation also allowed by the lorethen why are you going for the objectively worse, less sensical, more convoluted and contradictory "interpretation"?just because you want the emperor to be infallible?
There is a severe and critical lack of people saying NULORE IGNORE in this thread
>>98314684>but not what we actually see the Emperor do (possesing the girl and Guilliman, fucking over Nurgle's Garden)kek, you actually think that was the emperor
>>98314702This is new 40K anon. Space Marines are just power rangers with guns and less personality. They show up to beat the big bad guy and help the DEI commissar who they kneel too. Because that’s what humanity is all about.
>>98314709the Emperor keikaku needs to be ambiguos. The books allow more than one interpretation, but the bits that point to it are undeniably done on purpose.>>98314717See above. And it's not worse at all. it's the one that avoids making the Emperor an idiot, and makes more sense against a multidimensional shit like the Chaos Gods.
>>98314721the emperor, the God-Emperor...Both the Custodes and Mortarion shat their pants when they recognized him.
>>98314634the models are already produced, the reveal dates barely matter
>some tanna sir>thank you jurgen
>>98314682GW is a british company, to most white people non white people get special treatment for being inferior victims of superior white people (wokely)Its okay for cathay to be monoethnic because they are non white and thus victims of global white supremacy and colonialism, but white people need to apologize by having multi culti because the concept of a white society is bad now
>>98314704That's what the Human Webway Project was, his great plan to allow humanity to continue their conquest of the stars without having to directly interact with the Warp. It wouldn't be a complete cut-off but it would allow humanity to function like the Eldar did for millions of years. Of course, the Chaos Gods couldn't allow that to happen and had the Primarchs scattered and eventually Tzeentch tricked Magnus into connecting the unfinished Human Webway to the Warp, flooding it with daemons and ruining Big E's dream of a humanity that didn't have to rely on the Warp..You can talk about Emprah having some big grand keikaku, but the Imperium as it is is the antithesis of everything he had been working towards. We don't know what the Emperor has planned for the future of the 40k-verse, but things as they are are the shattered shards of everything he had worked to accomplish. That's the grimdarkness. The idea that humanity could have been great, was on the cusp of true greatness, and then fell. And has been falling from that apex for 10,000 years.
>>98314731>“Space Marines are winning? Sounds like people want more marines, so they want more ultramarines. Time to make a new ultramarines character. After all, the one that came out a few months ago sold so well.”Circle the drain until we are here.
>>98314709The only difference between leto and the emperor is we are on a meta layer above leto and so see into his thoughts motivations and grand plan and with the emperor we are on a meta layer below so it all seems mysterious.40k is very very VERY much inspired by dune
>>98314723>makes more sense against a multidimensional shit like the Chaos Godsit doesn't, because how can the faith and worship of one dimension ever work against worship from an infinite amount of them? going raw power vs chaos gods is stupid which is spelled out in the heresy too, and if the god-emperor was the plan then it was a plan based on that concept
>>98314238not very, I used 2nd edition tyranid paint scheme "logic" which is to say anything genestealer or lictor related is blue, everything else is red. Bafflingly despite having collected tyranids for a fairly long time I don't have any hormagaunts or gargoyles, which were also blue in that scheme, so I never had a large protion of my army in blue, mostly genestealer units, broodlords and lictors.A possible option is to do the hyperadapted raveners in blue and normal raveners in red.
3 cadian recon squads in half tracks
>>98314723being a fallible person, in a position of power that removes him from the human experience, and especially when facing against extradimensional gods, does not make him idiot
>>98314755cool, you could also take 3 field guns and just say they were towed into place.
>>98314739That's the surface conventional explanation about the setting. But the books leave hints on purpose about it being a lie, and 40k being actually his desired end state as a way to create the God Emperor to save humanity.There's no technological solution to the problem of the Chaos Gods, as the end of the DAoT proved.Remember the eldar gods, the birth of Slaanesh, and the Ynnari. The only real way to beat a god in 40k is with another god.
>>98314723The Emperor was an idiot who stole the power of Chaos and tried to use it against Chaos, which predictably went completely and horribly wrong and cost him his dreams and his existence as anything other than a husk sitting on a Golden Throne suffering forever for his failures. Attempting to argue otherwise is nothing but idiocy itself.
>>98314720Because I'm ignoring it.
>>98314732Based. I hope we get at least a squad of valhallan, I like the redesign jurgen got, from the moonboots to the integrated heating system inside the coat.Another detail I like is how big regiments seem to have a patch shape attached to them>krieg is upright square>cadia is disk>valhalla is rectangleWonder what they'll do for catachan & armageddon
>>98314515>"Heresy was totally the plan" angle.The hilarious thing about this is that based on what Golding said, it makes the Emperor even more of a retard compared to the fan theories. Most people believe even if the Emperor planned the Heresy, he didn't expect Horus to rebel. But Golding said the Emperor specifically picked Horus as Warmaster knowing he was a charismatic enough guy to convince other primarchs to rebel too. Cue his surprise when Horus ends up getting nine legions to rebel
>>98314747>emperor thinks he can guide humanity into becoming a fully psychic race, while also cutting them off from the warpIt just fundamentally makes no sense. Leto's plan does make sense on a basic level; become the worst tyrant ever so humanity never accepts tyranny again. Emperor just seems factually wrong about a fundamental reality
>>98314591>xenos are just a sci fi larp of a historical groupwhy not play space marines then
>>98314778>Emperor just seems factually wrong about a fundamental realityWhich is spelled out in the Malcador chapters of TEATD 2 and 3, yeah. The Emperor and Malcador were really, really wrong about how powerful Chaos actually is. I don't think they realized they're multiversal energy beings and thought they could be beaten by the powers of a single galaxy.
>>98314748>how can the faith and worship of one dimension ever work against worship from an infinite amount of them?How could Slaanesh be born? faith in the God Emperor also becomes infinite and self sustaining for him.>>98314758The Emperor cannot be the Emperor and be so naive. A dude born in 8000BC would not make mob boss 101 mistakes after 38k years of experience.>>98314766You're just parroting the shallowest interpretation of what happened. >>98314773>>98314778The Emperor allowing and wanting the HH to happen makes perfect sense if he wanted a static Imperium for millennia to feed him as the God Emperor. God needs the Devil, to so speak
>>98314790What I think is funny is that the Emperor thinks the Eldar fucked up by not cutting themselves off from the warp, but it genuinely seems like the Eldar had things in hand for 60 million years. There's a mention in the Dark Eldar books that Commoragh has wards specifically keeping it safe from the non-Slaanesh gods, that generally do hold up pretty well. And there's also the Tyranid Hive Mind thinking that the Warp is weird in this galaxy compared to other galaxies. It seems the best way to deal with Chaos is to just lay low. Making a deal or stealing from Chaos seems like the worst possible idea
>>98314753the 2nd edition scheme had a lot of subtler parts in-between the blue-purple scheme and the white-red scheme, look at how the bigger nids have a dark carapace and not just white plates, or how the lictors have red talons, or the gaunts have purple crests without similar cues your two schemes won't look as cohesive, so you either stick to the separation as if you're collecting two symbiotic swarms rather than one swarm with a gradient of colors, or you have to plan something in-between, if you have no hormas and gargs then the gaunts can be the likely candidate, but I assume you already have termas, barbs and neurogaunts, and already in the white-red scheme, so you'd have to retouch them or somethinganyway I'd count raveners as vanguards, if you want to stick to the thematic duality
>>98314790The Warp "multiverses" are not realspace dimensions, they just exist in the warp. And Chaos is definitely localized to the Milky Way.Also what the Emperors says and what the does are not the same. Malcador didn't know it all.>>98314797> the Eldar had things in hand for 60 million yearsthe Eldar did nothing relevant and eventually self destroyed. Just like they've been the same for 10k years since the Fall, the Paths, etc. They're static and useless as fuck without any of the excuses of the imperium
My favorite dumb thing the Emperor did was purposefully banning psykers at Nikaea, not because of anything Magnus did or Russ said, but because he didn't want them foreseeing the Heresy happening. The furries and TSfags argue all day about Magnus doing nothing wrong, about Russ being a hypocrite, when the actual answer is the Emperor is either a retard or a masochist
>>98314810Nulore ignore
>>98313831I will but no idea what to play
>>9831480960 million years is a long time
>>98314809>the Eldar did nothing relevant and eventually self destroyed60 million years of total stability is incredibly relevant. if I could right now hit a button for humanity to get 60 million years of prosperity I would consider that the greatest achievement in human history. The Emperor fucked the entire galaxy in just a few centuries by massively empowering chaos.
>>98314809>The Warp "multiverses" are not realspace dimensions, they just exist in the warp.They're other universes, such as Age of Sigmar. Unless you're saying those exist within the Warp in which case 40k is identical. >And Chaos is definitely localized to the Milky Way.Been disproven several times, most recently in Arks of Omen. There may not be massive warp breaches like the Eye of Terror in other galaxies but actions in those places still empower the gods.
>>98314809>the Eldar did nothing relevantjust because their history isn't detailed it doesn't mean they didn't have one
>>98314832according to his logic the emperor did nothing for 39700 years and in the 300 years he acted he fucked everything up
i'm ordering bits and i'm questioning my sanity for paying $180 for ~130 headsdo i need 130 heads? do i ever plan on using 130?
>>98314810psykers were banned because mankind was on the cusp of psychic awakening and psykers are dangerous during that periodit wasn't about foreseeing the heresy
>>98314851>8) Instead of risking an unpredictable rebellion, I will engineer a smaller one. I know, I'll put Primarch XVI in charge of the others - he's popular, and ambitious, and smart. He'll figure out what I'm doing, and I've given him everything he needs to rebel in a manageable way, AND gotten rid of the psykers in the Legions who might have been able to foresee it. There's no way this can all go wrong, especially because I abolished all religion and any possible interaction with those DARK GODS that I tricked earlier...
>>98314736if we’re talking about China and Britain that did literally happenYou would be screeching if some merchants showed up and started pushing fent on the populace and subverting your government and culture before engaging in open warfare
Anyone know where to get old codices? Wouldnt mind trying to order hard copies
>>98314853You are quoting Fanfiction
>>98314846Don't do it, what army do you even play?
>>98314846That's not a bad price per head in itself, but I do agree the amount of heads is questionable. Are you just getting 10 of each, 13 kinds, or a truly random assortment of bullshit? The latter would last me a lot longer, I'd get bored of the former.
>>98314846Stop it. Buy a 3d printer.
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Pyre,_The>breaking naming conventions now this is real chaos
>>98314858 Check around at used bookstores and other places that carry old prints.
>>98314753Hormagaunts were a Fast Attack choice original IIRC, coupled with Gargoyles being the same way I'd say your queue for flipping between the two is whether or not the unit was historically a Fast Attack choice or some sort of infiltrator, which Raveners definitely were.
>>98314861guard, admech, gsc>>98314863assortment of the same kind of helmeted gasmask for my guard and gsc>>98314867i'm too much of a braindead retard to figure out 3d printingi am also afraid of exhaust requirements for resin printing>>98314858used bookstores
>>98314809>the Eldar did nothing relevant>longest lived and most successful Empire in the setting (second only, perhaps, to the psychic toads we know fuck-all about). By comparison, Imperium had a few hundred years of expansion and imploded because the Emperor couldn't micromanage 20 prima donnas.
nurgle was created during the medieval era on earth. somehow in the entire galaxy no one got sick before humanity when the entire earth's population was 400k people. you shouldnt try to use the scope of the setting as an argument in places where the writers simply didnt think too hard about it
>>98314856I'm not disagreeing, I was just stating reality. Its a product of white guilt. Its reverse racism (wokely). Obviously the horrors of colonialism were real and continue to be real. European civilization has collective psychosocial trauma from being the literal bad guys of planet of earth for several hundred years. For most people you either lean in fully or go reject it entirely.
>>98314907being a cuck is the logical endpoint of this type of moral mindset you're just saying it's bad because it makes people that agree with you look retarded
>>98314898hasn't been canon for decades
>>98314898Unironic case of oldlore being very bad.It seems to have been pretty firmly revised that Nurgle was created along with Khorne and Tzeentch during the War in Heaven.Don't anybody start on that shit with slaanesh also being there for that from that one terrible ynarri book.
Someone make a 3 hours long youtube video essay about how The Backrooms™ is set in the warp™
>>98314682Honestly this is why China is culturally dead. Regardless of the bullshit skintone stuff the developers say how they want to avoid the more "grim" aspect when designing a Chinese faction. All because they don't want to piss off the CCP and get banhammered.Amazing how a country of 1 billion has almost no real cultural influence on the world because their government is so prissy.
>>98314957i'd say chink bootleg anime has more cultural outrach than gw's pathetic attempt at reaching out to the international market
>>98314940>Unironic case of oldlore being very bad.Mainly because this bit was written by Ansell and not Priestley.
>>98314898>>98314937>>98314940It's NEVER been canon, even back in the realm of chaos books it was never that nurgle was born because of medieval humans, it was that it woke up coincidentally around that time and it incidentally caused the black plague as a side effect, but mankind wasn't what made it.For fuck sake stop getting your fluff from memes.
Been collecting Tau and Necrons since I like the models and I've noticed I have enough of them for 1k point games. Since I only really paint, I don't know how my assortment of random bullshit would fare in a game. I got a friend who really wants to try 40k, so I'm curious how the matchup would go. For Necrons I got >the current combat patrol>necrons royal court>hierotek circle (which I think amounts to a cryptek and a royal warden proxy)>10 immortals>assorted bullshit that caught my eye: 3 tomb blades, 5 flayed uns, 5 triarch praetorians/lychguard (haven't assembled them yet)>the 500 worlds destroyer box For Tau I got>the current combat patrol >a riptide>an xv88>a cadre fireblade>an ethereal, 3 xv8 suits, 10 fire warriors, 10 pathfinders from a start collecting box I bought way back whenPic rel is my lil plasmancer. Struggling to paint the gradients on necron weaps. Are deldari functional in 1k games? I snagged a copy of their old combat patrol with the kabalites.
and i'd wager cathay is a sanded down edgeless product because of western leftists crying about le evil orientalism. the chinese would not ban warhammer for depicting a proper grimderp fantasy fun version of medieval china. this is the same reason why when they inevitably add araby it'll just be guys with spears and not flying carpets and genies
im trying to get back into tabletop since some of my friends are finally interested, ive been browsing some of the 11th edition changes but what the fuck happened to terrain, what is terrain footprint shit
>paintfags
>>98314996It's a massive improvement over 10th's standing in arbitrary circles gameplay.
>secondaries
>>98314914im not advocating any kind of mindset. Im stating objective fact. I think you might be projecting something onto me that isnt there. Im telling you what these people actually think which is why they dont see white civilizations becoming multi culti as racist but mono ethnic (or near mono ethnic) cathay is okay. My personal thoughts if you desire them: I think some multi culti is okay and some mono ethnic is okay. I dont mind the Empire being more cosmopolitan than just white germans but I think cathay should also have some other demographics like east asians, japanese, koreans, central asians like turkic tribes. They have mongolians basically represented by the asiatic looking ogre tribes. I wish that there was more playing with ethnicity and as a woke person people are too afraid of offending people to make good art in a corporate setting.
>>98315004i only got like a brief explanation, but the terrain footprint is like a solid block of terrain unless your in it? you cant shoot through the entire footprint but otherwise regular walls and los work like normal?mostly trying to figure out stuff for making some terrain since the place i played at before closed so i need to start somewhere
>>98314907>European civilization has collective psychosocial trauma from being the literal bad guys of planet of earth for several hundred years.That's just Ruski mind games.Europe managed to civilise the whole world.
>>98314979nta but it IS true that mankind is the strongest source of power for chaos, its greatest servants are all humans and humans are the most populous race so their psyche has the biggest impact on the warp. The orks impact on the warp is gork and mork. the elves impact on the warp is slannesh, but slannesh is still fed by humans too. its a reflection of the collective galactic psyche, humans are the most populous so they have the biggest impact. obviously that wasnt true in medieval times.
>>98314960Even then that shit is just ripping off the Japs
braphammer fartykay
>>98315042ripping stuff you enjoy and remixing should be conceptually fine if you like warhammer
>>98315009There are no secondaries here
are tyranid warriors with guns any good at all? i love dinosaur bugs with guns
>>98315051i ONLY know Warhammer from Tau porn.
>Mossa threadHonestly kys pedophile scum.
I am going to finish my defiler TONIGHT, regardless of how long I have to stay awake. It has been sitting on my desk 80% complete for a week now, I shall finish this bitch. I'll post for some (you)s when I finish.
>>98315071stop ban evading
i bet every rogue trader owns child sex slaves
>>98314907>the literal bad guys of planet of earth for several hundred yearsYes yes the brown hordes will never forgive us for ending the child sacrifice and bringing them things like silverware and plumbing and creating the healthiest and most prosperous civilizations in human history. We are so evil.
>>98315085I masturbate to european colonialism, I dont fetishize it.
>>98315085nta but you are just proving his earlier point >European civilization has collective psychosocial trauma from being the literal bad guys of planet of earth for several hundred years.then he said>For most people you either lean in fully or go reject it entirely.you are completely existing within what he said
>>98315071The level of lacking self-awareness it takes to say this while posting an anime-style Sister of Battle is hilarious
>>98315074lets see some wip
>>98315085>usnigger you didn't do shit
>>98315071>aislopper>anti-loli spergyou definitely are a real pedophile
>>98315085>>98315094>>98315091I desprately want to contribute to this conversation, but I've already been warned for shitposting on this board and I'm not behind 7 proxies.
>>98315107idk who to hate more in this equation
>>98315105Oh, so now suddenly I didn't do shit and it was all people who died a long time ago, but when brownoids want to guilt trip us for handouts it's suddenly "you did this, you did that, where muh reparations"? Can't have it both ways.
>>98315119if you're crying about loli you don't belong on a board with a loli daemonette mascot
>>98315120yes, you can't have it both ways, which is why you can't cry about how you aren't responsible for bad things but are responsible for good thingsyou're obviously not responsible for either of those, but you are responsible for being a massive flaming faggot
>>98315103I just realized I dont have a base big enough for a defiler (160mm). Any anons have advice for cheeky ways to make one?
>>98315130You sound mad, clearly my superiority has led to some controversy
tau cunny
>supplied fully paintedSo... GW has already done prepainted terrain before 19 years ago and everyone freaked out about it coming back as if that was the end of hobbying and they were going to prepaint all the army models? Lmfao
>>98315132just order one for 10 cents off the internet and wait a few days for shipping.
Le ecks dee XDXD I like orks :DD XD
>>98315192quirky chungus franchise
>>98315198It's an army of le goofballs XDXD
>>98315208It's a dark comedy setting
>>98315137My collection could use more
>>98315222T-Trazyn?
>paintfags>modelfags>gamesfagsYou guys don't actually do this, r-right?
>>98315172>wait a few days for shipping.
>>98315230>You guys don't actually do this, r-right?I cant talk to girls without spilling gallons of spaghettis, so yeah. Its how I cope.
>>98315229Trazyn the Infinitely Based
>paintstolen finger paint from my kindergartener little brother>modelshandmade molds and melted down plastic utensils>gamesobscure russian mods for medieval total war (pirated of course)gw won't ever see a single cent
>>98315132Damn dude looks good.I'm off this week so plan on sneaking to the basement at night to try and finally paint this Lord of Skulls I've owned for almost a year (just built it over the weekend).
>>98313708>>98313918Black lion won.Also this might be good evidence that official gw sculptor names are known and can be contacted. Guy must have slipped a bribe to “subtly” make one.
Hot off the grill
>>98315298>another paintfagCringe
>>98315298Nice! Very clean, love the copper metal color for the axe
>>98315167>£20AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>98315298He looks like he FUCKs
>>98315260thanks man.Holy crap thats a project and a half. The amount of detail on that is intimidating. I wish you good fortune in the wars to come with that thing.
>>98315230>bookfags>lorefags>watchfags>/v/fags>opinionfagsthe fucking state of this general.
>>98315298so sexy…what did you highlight the red with?
>>98315324Which one is the worst of the lot?
>>98315311>paintfagI remember seeing talk here about how “post models” has reached the 40k normie spaces. How long until paintfag or some sanitized version reaches the 40k normies of more popular social media sites?
>>98315331opinionfagsI don’t come here for anyone’s retarded opinion.
>>98315343It already has, I saw an instagram post mocking secondaries and it was full of seething shitters saying they don't want to waste thousands on plastic and that they're better than painters because of it
>I give money to gw so my opinion is bettertg stands for /the goyim/
>>98315331Opinionfags, but specifically only when they have opinions that don't agree with mine
Make up a rules rumor, but make it believable!
>>98313774More please?
>>98315351a paintfag, modelfag and/or gamesfag has a better opinion that someone who isnt any of the above regardless of how bad it is
>>98315330>basecoatArmy painter resplendent red>highlightArmy painter angelic red>washArmy painter soft tone
>>98315371I just don't care that much about 11th edition rules. It all kind of runs together into a gray sludge in my head. The game stopped feeling like real 40k in 10th. It feels like the gameplay equivalent of what fanfiction feels like to lore. Some fake ersatz edition.
>>98315324/tg/fags, 200%. They derail every thread with some stupid argument about whether the Emperor planned the Horus Heresy or some shit, when obviously Lion El'Jonson is the one who orchestrated it.
>>98315331
Why do people hate Custodes? I see people complain about them as an army all the time. Why?
this pushfit shit is fuckin aids
what are these vent thingies on the genestealer models?it has tubes running to their backpack so my initial guess is something to do with breathing filtration or something but some of these guys wear separate rebreathers that don't connect to itkind of disappointed that in the entire gsc range there's only one model that sports a full enclosed helmet
>>98315463in a setting full of special unique spess mehrines, they are the most special and unique spess mehrines
>>98315483could be in built 2 ways so they can communicate with each other on the mine site
>>98315463they should have been lore-only imo
>>98315483Don't think that's been explained, just interesting greebles on the suit for the appearance of detail.>>98315497That was a thought I had, that they were external vox speakers but there's no reason for the huge accordion tubes if it's just power, that screams "I supply or intake gas".
>>98315480snip every single peg except the ones that connect the model to the baseand even then snip off like half of said peg
>>98315463Even before the female custard nonsense, they should have just been one or two units to use as an ally and not a whole army. They are completely redundant since we already had 20 flavors of loyalist marines. And we already had a shiny metallic elite army in the form of GK.
>>98315489they arent space marines. you are thinking of the gray knights who are LITCHURALLY what you described
>>98315497>>98315505like i think it's supposed to be an air intake and a speaker when they're wearing a full helmet doesn't make a lot of sense why all of them aren't wearing it and most of them have suits that don't aren't capable of supporting said helmet unless it's a fishbowl type globe or something
>>98315510>erm actually they aren't adeptus astartes™ so take that, chud!okay gw copyright lawyer
>>98315463absolute bait army for new players almost on the same level as having them start with knights
>>98315463It's an army of gary stues in lore with strong rules in the tabletop as well, I can't blame anyone who hates them. That said, I like their aesthetics and greek namest. I have an army of them and SoS
Which boxes have the most female custodes? I dont want the male ones.
>>98315521>that kneepadheh...
>>98315525Just play SoB
>>98315528No thanks
>>98315525no one knows because gw female head sculpts all look like vin diesel
>>98315528But I want to make chuds mad.
>>98315517custodes are just not space marines, they have never been space marines, and you thinking they are space marines just makes you look retarded.I will concede the point if you think orks are just green space marines, guard are just tank space marines, sisters of battle are female space marines, necrons are robot space marines etc etc>>98315525there is not difference in the sculpt itself. all the female heads are options. there is no kit that forces you to build a female custodes. if you want to get kits that have no female heads for political reasons buy the old boxes, all the new ones have female heads
>>98315537We're mad at GW, we don't give a shit what you do, you are nobody.
>>98315538The new shield captain has boobplate and molded nipples, even if you give her a helmet she's obviously female
>>98315543they always post some shit like >you don't like this? i'll buy 10 copies, heh.>doesn't
>>98315537You should have a less flimsy reason to invest into an army. If that is your only motivation then you will grow bored and quit. Playing an army should be borne of love for the army, not hatred for people who don't even know your name.
>>98315544damn, didnt realize the greeks were all transwomen
this is a 10/10 in england
>>98315544brother....
>>98315547ELDVR TRVTH NVKE
>>98315538>orks are just green space marinesthey are>guard are just tank space marinesno they are a chaff unit meant to ally with space marines >sisters of battle are female space marinesthey are>necrons are robot space marinesthey're just generic evil alien robots
>>98315559>orks are just green space marines
>>98315563>they have all the same units but with a randomized rng shooting mechanic (in a game about rolling dice) see? they're completely different
>>98315132Ooo very nice.
>>98315538I know that custards aren't marines and I know the ways in which they are different than marines but they are still closer to marines than any other non-marine factioneven sisters who wear power armor and use bolters and rhinos or grey knights which are literally special snowflake marines are more interesting and contribute more to the game than custodes as a stand alone army
who here play gsc and who here JUST?
>>98315399shit, well this inspired me to paint a little darker red to try highlighting with some lighter ones. which one looks like a better red do you think?
>>98315648bring back blips
>>98315648I haven't played any of my armies since the first few months of 10th, and as far as the GSC goes I probably will be waiting a bit before I try them in 11th.
>>98314158you can't die for hypothetical sins retard
>>98315657I like the one on the left, you can always bring it down with a wash later
Btw guys just wanted to let you know that the official lore in the Eldar Codex says they are a pale-skinned species. So GW can never do nigger eldar without breaking lore. They aren't humans so they don't have skin color diversity. They are pale white aliens.
Are there any novel series for other chaos legions as good as the Night Lord series? I read the Talon of Horus and it was dogshit.
>>98315687>2011+15>thinking GW won't expand lore on a whimIt doesn't say ALL eldar are pale or that they can't be dark. Just the ones the author has seen are pale.Also, Mandrakes aren't pale.
>>98315698>Just the ones the author has seenThe 'author' is the omniscient word of god, this isn't from the time period where codexes were written in universe
>>98315698>Mandrakes aren't paleThey also aren't normal Eldar.
>>98315687good, I don't want nigdar in my craftworlds. wraithcotton picking is reserved for mon'keigh and "dark" eldar.
>>98315735>wraithcotton picking
>>98315350I know that asking for models to be posted has reached the normies.I am just curious about whether a “counter word” or phrase has been made yet.Like to my knowledge a 40k tourist is like a skaterboard kid “poser.”In that they adopt skateboard kid everything except skateboarding.Feel free to correct if I am wrong.
What are the chances of GW ever making official Gue'vesa models?
>Adeptus Custodes: Super elites>Space Marines: Jack of all trades>Black Templars: Melee specialists>Blood Angels: Jump pack specialists>Space Wolves: Charge specialists>Grey Knights: Teleporting elites>Imperial Guard: Horde + Vehicles>Sisters of Battle: Dice manipulation>Adeptus Mechanicus: Buffs>Imperial Knights: Super elites>Imperial Agents: Not a real army>Chaos Space Marines: Jack of all trades>World Eaters: Charge specialists>Death Guards: Extreme durability>Thousand Sons: Psychic specialists>Emperor's Children: Speed specialists>Chaos Daemons: Deep strike specialists>Chaos Knights: Super elites>Orks: Horde>Necrons: Extreme durability>Eldar: Extreme specialists at everything>Dark Eldar: Speed specialists>Tau: Ranged specialists>GSC: Ambush specialists>Tyranids: Horde>Votann: GrudgesWhat more faction gimmicks can be added?
>>98315822They already exist in stl form.I am curious if some autist has made imperial guard vehicles with a “tau pattern” flavor.I haven’t found one yet.
>>98315822I know that I shouldn't pay attention to what retards on twitter are saying (I only use it to follow artists etc) but it was genuinely baffling to me how many imperiumfanboys were bitching at this particular artists about how the character couldn't have been born in Tau empire because supposedly the tau sterilize all humans in their empire. How the fuck does meme bullshit like this genuinely become the commonly accepted "fact" about the setting? Does nobody read the primary sources anymore?
Hey lads what should a leman russ punisher cannon look like if it is a rapid fire laser version?I was thinking twin multilaser turrets like the leman russ Horus heresy annihilator but I was wondering if there are any better ideas.
>>98315849>Does nobody read the primary sources anymore?Certainly not normies and adhdefectives like me.And there’s a lot of 40k lore misinfo that gets repeated so many times it becomes believed as a “fact” that normies repeat.Mostly because loretubers repeat wikis and there are definitely trolls editing those wikis with autists doing the same to “canonize” their homebrew.
>>98315833>>Tyranids: HordeTyranids real gimmick is giant monsters, the horde of little bugs is a secondary thing, like Kroot are to Tau.
>>98315857Not 40k related but I am reminded of how some literal fanfiction/theory about the Thalmor wanting ot unmake reality or something got widely accepted as canon in the elder scrolls fanbase jsut because some fuck edited it into the biggest tes wiki out there when no sources in the actual game supported this notion.
>>98315865Kirkbride confirmed it
>>98315822How would they even be speaking the same language if that bottom one was born amongst the Tau, he'd only speak Tau.
How close would the WGA 'The Damned' box get me (new player) to a playable army? Would it be worth buying two of them? The box includes: 18 DAMNED INFANTRY12 DAMNED FEMALE INFANTRY6 BRUTES3 HEAVY WEAPONS TEAMSARTILLERY UNIT8 CREWFULL COMMAND TEAM
>>98315871You're not very bright are you
>>98315871I imagine that imperials living under tau would have still retained some knowledge of low gothic, and soldiers in general are usually trained to understand the language of their enemies because it has practical benefits.
>>98315871Are humans even capable of speaking the Tau language?
>>98315873I don’t think the guard codex is coming out soon this edition so I’m not sure but I think newrecruit can help you unless there is a better army building program updated for 11th.I backed the wga damned gamefound so there could be an unofficial plastic warhammer 40k chaos guard army.Can I please have a medal and a tomboy to nut in please?
>>98313744Quality.
>>98315865I wish there was a term for this kind of stuff. Then I wish we could meme it and it would reach the normies calling out theories and fake theories and repeated lies.
>>98315873that box gives you about 500-600 points, so that box and a couple tanks would give a decent 1k army to out with.the artillery piece in the kit looks to be about ordnance battery sized, so you'd need 2 of those guns since they come in units of two. You could run it as a heavy gun but its definitely a little smaller than the official model.Doubling up could be useful. More guardsman is always nice but you might not need more ogryn or heavy weapons.
Nightmare Hunt or Dread Talons + Murdertalon Raiders?Nightmare Hunt seems stronger as a single detachment but Murdertalon grants access to lance and purge the foe. Dread Talons sucks but combos well with Murdertalon. I know realistically both suck compared to other options but I wanna play thematic Night Lords, I just think they're neat.
How would one make a 40k book inspired by the wild west? I'm trying to think about how this would work.
What head works best for a Black Templars captain?
>>983159481
>>98313708https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34zgdKHlTGk
>>983159482, but 1 is acceptable
>>98315960seconded
>>98315948First on the left, but try to find one a bit more ornate, like in the pack of marine heads.
>>98315955>AI slop
>>98315948Horsehair crests really don't suit Black Templars. My vote is for #2.
>>983159482 > 1 > 3I see three as too much of an Ultramarine head
Kabalite Cartel Reavers x 3 751 heat lance 1 grav talon Reavers x 3 751 heat lance 1 grav talon 3rd unit Reavers x 3 851 heat lance 1 grav talon Scourges x 5 with heavy weapons 1301 shard carbine and close combat weapon 4 dark lances x (5 points each) Kabalites x10 110Sybarite 1 blaster 1 dark lance 1 splinter cannon 7 splinter rifles Kabalites x10 110Sybarite 1 blaster 1 dark lance 1 splinter cannon 7 splinter rifles Venom (carries 6) 702 splinter cannons Raider (carries 11) 85dark lance Raider (carries 11) 85dark lance Drazhar 85 Incubi x 5 90 Total 1000Should I drop Drazhar for an archon? Without drazhar I feel like the incubi and their venom could be dropped for a couple talos.
>>98315822>>98315842they were always meant to be guard + tau kitbashes.gue'vesa are from back when GW didn't hate the hobby. they are not of this time.>>98315883yes? given the number of human worlds that were supposed to be into the tau empire between their introduction and taros campaign, writers would have mentioned if the human tau subjects couldn't communicate with the tau. they easily might also speak imperial languages tho. none of them have been part of the empire for more than a generation or two.
>>98313876>OSL from the disk>crease in the robe directly touching the disk is in complete shadow for some reason
>>98315994>they were always meant to be guard + tau kitbashes.>gue'vesa are from back when GW didn't hate the hobbyDid they ever even have rules? Even in like a White Dwarf or something
Remove Kroot and Vespid from Tau. Make a new army, Tau Auxillaries or whatever, that consists of them, Gue'la, and maybe one or two more things.
>>98315943Note quite wild west, but one of the guard novels has a confederate themed regiment with some steam punk-esque technology.The justification was the planet was only added to the imperium "recently" so their equipment is a mix of local technology they developed on their own (lot of solid projectile ammo, crude exo-suits with machine gun, airships used for paratroopers during pre-imperial contact)TLDR: Just imagine if the imperium annexed the planet from TRIGUN
>>98316005>Did they ever even have rules? Even in like a White Dwarf or somethingImperial guardsmen had HATRED against them for being race traitors. Im not making that up, that was a real rule.
>>98316017Why?
>>98316032Holy based
Did you 3d print your army?
>>98316022>guard novels has a confederate themed regimentStrongly temped to start a guard army just so I can paint confederates and have it be be canon lore lol
>>98316005iir they got rules for 3rd/4th in imperial armor taros. prob some shit in white dwarf too.but the usual assumption was they;d just be proxy fire warriors with human bodies if it was a historical tau world, or proxy guard with tau paint/bits if its a newly incorporated world
>>98314100>Why doesn't the miniature wargame that most people here got into at the age of 11-13 years old feature more mass rapesSpergs are the fucking worst. Please stop acting like your twisted, retarded logic should be relevant to other people.
>want to build a meme list>$900 msrp >$88 recastListen. I’m not mad. This is GW selling at rates that make sense with the demand. My issue is that since they’re obviously making money hand over fist, why the hell are they not paying their employees properly? This isn’t even including book sales or licensing money.
>>98316034>>98316056They don't do enough with Tau as the "diverse" army," they focus too much on the Gundam mechsuits.
>>98316118I remember ~4th Ed when the only suits were crisis suits, stealth suits, broadsides, and commanders. Then you had firewarriors, pathfinders, kroot (carnivores, hounds, and krootox I believe), and vespid. The rest was drones and vehicles. Now auxiliaries are a much smaller portion of the list.
>Necrons are supposed to be a gigantic galaxy-wide threat that the Eldar take super seriously>They have two actual strongholds, fairly near each other, as far from the Imperium's core as possible????
I was all excited because I've been trying to get my hands on these 3 books all at once. I am immeasurably ass mad that, once again, 1 of the 3 books, betrayer, leads to a fucking 404 link.Is it really so hard for them to at least have the fucking books they mentioned in stock or even lead to a real product page?
>>98314638> it's not a voteI beg to differ. The first week vote was literally "scouts honor, who won" digital question without any proof a game was played and the outcome of said game. It was literally "did Marines or Orks win?" I chose Orks when I didn't even play a game that week lol. I did the same thing with my 10th edition box, I voted for Tyrannids even though they got blown the fuck out because my friend learning the game played them.
>>98316135If your brain wasn't eaten by porn you'd know what a tomb world is.
>>98314658>>98316149>o-okay it's n-not a v-vote b-but p-people are c-cheating
>>98315871Idk, anon. How can second gen immigrants speak their parent's language if they were born in an English speaking country?
>>98316200>stutterposting
>>98315943These here genes ain't big enough for the two of us, pardner.
>>98316206>coping
I don’t know why they didn’t just release an Ortan Cassius model instead of a new guy that was totally around the whole rime you just didn’t see him.
>>98316228>why'd they release this new glup shitto instead of my favorite glup shitto
>>98316228They will, that's why they teased him in the black lion's article
It bothers me that the Space Marines driving the Land Speeder don’t have power packs…
>>98316233>Ultramarines named character thats had multiple models and been in every Space Marine codex since 2nd edition is glup shitto nowAnon... PLEASE...
>>98316247space marine pilots in all vehicles with exposed cockpits don't have them, they're linked into the vehicle instead
>>98316247They plug the suits into the vehicle anon
>>98316248Yes, he's a literal who glup shitto to anybody but a smurf collector (subhuman)normal human beings know calgar and titus and roboute and MAYBE cato sicarius, nobody gives a fuck about smurf "characters"
>>98316254No you fucking retard, everyone who has ever opened a core Space Marines codex would have come across him, plus he's the head Chaplain of a major chapter. Everyone who isn't a faggot secondary knows all the Chapter Masters, Chief Librarians and head Chaplains of the Main 4Calgar, Tigurius, CassiusDante, Mephiston, AstorathAzrael, Ezekiel, AsmodaiLogan, Njal the Stormcaller, Ulrik the SlayerI don't even FUCKING PLAY SPACE MARINES and I know all these niggers it's the main 3 guys of the main 4 fucking posterboy chapters.
>>98316267LMAO this retard is the embodiment of that overestimating the standard understanding memeyou fucking subhuman autist
>>98316267You don't play anything, you watch youtube shorts and think that means you're relevant or standard here
>>98316272>>98316275You're just giving away that you're a secondary nogamesAll of those characters have had models and rules for like 30 fucking years, even if you don't play space marines anyone who isn't nogames will have had to fight against these guys dozens of times over the years when you run into Ultras, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves across the table from you.
Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!
>>98316267I couldn't give less of a shit about any space marine "characters", because I don't fucking collect space marines as I don't like them.
>>98316267This. The faggots fishing for (you)s prove it even further.
>>98316284Literally just addressed that dumbass>even if you don't play space marines anyone who isn't nogames will have had to fight against these guys dozens of times over the years when you run into Ultras, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, and Space Wolves across the table from you.I don't fucking play space marines either, I just actually play 40k unlike 90% of you nogames tourist faggots.
>>98316267otoh I would only be able to name>Calgar, Cato>Dante, Mephiston>Logan, Bjornbut I was never a marine player besides grey knights and Dark Angels weren't that popular when I started playing in late 4th ed
>>98316289>I actually play!!!No you don't lmaoPeople who actually play don't sperg out when people don't know about literal who smurf characters because they're busy building painting playing or theory crafting and not crying about a nobody chaplain on a dead website
>>98316290If anyone is a glup shito it's cato, he wasn't even relevant until recently, but I don't blame you for not knowing all the Dark Angels ones, they're probably the most rare. I almost forgot Asmodai when I was writing out the list.
>>98316300Trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules retardYou don't play or you would know the named characters run by every ultra player and their mother you had to fight against for 30 years
>>98316267I have no idea who any of those but Dante mephisto calgar and ulrik are I play black templars and can't name any characters beyond grimaldus and helbrecht because I actually play instead of reading shitty books and badly written codex lore blurbs
>>98316302Announcing a report is also against the rulesSorry your shitposting wannabe janny tantrum isn't going how you hoped but you have to live with it now
>>98316303>I actually play but I've never read the most common codexLol, lmao
>>98316300Not that anon, but it doesn’t really matter how much you performatively hate Space Marines for (You)’s, the point stands that it’s strange to expand the range of a faction with a new character rather than refreshing an old character to bring the UM upper echelon closer to being up to date.
>>98316301Cato was memed on for a decade so every secondary knows him just like how calgar and Titus were in a game so they know them tooNobody who plays the game remembers every named character in a faction that's underrepresented on the tabletop player wise
>>98316316>how much you performatively hate Space Marines for (You)’s,I play space marines, I don't hate them You sound extremely fragile about your tastes if you think anything I've said was denigrating them
>>98316303>badly written codex lore blurbsI actually like a lot of the codex blurbs because it gives me a jumping off point for my own lore, ideas and narrative campaigns. To me half of the fun is letting your imagination go inside the sandbox of the 40k galaxy.
>>98316118So you're plan is to seperate them even more, brilliant plan anon...
>>98316314Nobody is reading their opponents codices you fucking larperI don't need the codex when nearly every rule in it is out of date within a week of it shipping if not sooner
>>98316318I think most people are just retards with shitty memory. If I come across a character in a game one time I remember it forever, because it has a battle and a miniature and rules to attach to the name.Like I haven't seen Duke Sliscus since 5th edition but I remember the name because he buffed my opponents Poison when I played against Dark Eldar that one time 19 years ago
>>98316330No, you're just heavily autistic and likely a low functioning one at that if you're wasting brainpower remembering useless factoids
>>98316327>Nobody is reading their opponents codices you fucking larperLiterally everyone always used to do this, newfag/tourist.No surer sign of a larper who doesn't play than all this projection calling others larper. You don't even realize how obvious you are to people who do play.
>>98316331That's not how brains work, you coping mongoloid retard, you're just low IQ. Once something is in the longterm memory it isn't using up any cognitive processing at all, that's what short term memory is for.
>>98316334Yes yes say the line tell us all how you've totally been playing since 2nd and you're so superior as a 40+ year old throwing a tantrum on a Mongolian basket weaving board because you were wrong about what the average player knows about generic Marines
>>98316330>I think most people are just retards with shitty memory.It's hard for normalfags to remember shit since they don't care about much.Plus they are insecure & get defensive, hence why you get called autistic, it's a way for retards like >>98316331 to shift the blame on you.>You have a better memory? No, you have autism, because it has to be a problem since I'm not likethat.
>>98316336Uh oh low functioning autist melty
>>98316337Oh wow it really is the coping newfag who's been BTFO like a dozen times. That's rich, kek. You should probably find a new word to be calling people since "larper" in all lowercase now immediately identifies you, you're gonna be our new lolcow now that decalfag is gone.
>>98316330duke sliscus poison spam was a popular deldar list when they got their 5th ed codexmost space marine characters used to be pretty bad besides ones which enabled spamming a specific unit (castellan crowe)like I'm pretty sure there was nothing that calgar could really do that a cheaper (pts wise) smash captain couldn't
>>98316340Lmao you're such a fucking schizophrenicSorry about your tantrum, I'll be much more considerate about your feefees next time I say people don't know about a squatted character who hasn't had a new model in 11 years :(
>>98316341>like I'm pretty sure there was nothing that calgar could really do that a cheaper (pts wise) smash captain couldn'tWas smash captain even a thing prior to 7th? I don't think I ran into it before that.
>>98316342nta but holy cope lmfao
>>98316340>You should probably find a new word to be calling people since "larper" in all lowercase now immediately identifies you, you're gonna be our new lolcow now that decalfag is gone.This is actual, genuine mental illness if you're not just baiting
>>98316342Bro no one really gives a shit about the character I've basically just been shitting on you for being a smug faggot who calls other people secondaries when you're the biggest secondary ever. You immediately start every conversation hostile as fuck and say some shit that immediately proves you are a fucking tourist that you're so fucking new and dumb you aren't even aware it gives you away.
>>98316344NtaNobody else is joining in on your sperg out with that other sperg, just be honest with him and end your circlejerk already
>>98316347>You immediately start every conversation hostile as fuck Ramblings of an actual schizophrenic
>>98316347>I don't actually care I've just been le epic trollWow you sure got us all we really thought you were a retard but you were just acting like one the whole time
>>98316345You obviously haven't been around much, he's been doing it regularly for weeks now, it's becoming an obvious tell of that particular retard. He's also the same guy who tried to call me newfag for saying "codexes" instead of "codices" because he's such an actual newfag he doesn't know GW has always called them codexes because they don't give a shit about the "correct" term and never did, and anyone who had been into 40k for any length of time would know that. Then he started having meltdowns over me pointing out I've played since 2nd edition and now brings it up unprompted like here >>98316337
>>98316358Absolutely unhinged paragraphAll you're telling me is you repeatedly shitpost and think you can identify posters because theyre using one of the most common slang words of the last two yearsAnd people mockingly say that about 2nd because tourists know if they say rogue trader nobody will ever believe them so they go up to the next best thing
>>98316289Do you fucking think I pay attention to what the whatever chaptermaster etc the spesh muhreen player has on the table is actually named in the setting lmao? I don't give a fuck because space marines do not interest me and usually they are just the person's own dude if they aren't total newbies that still just paint the official GW color schemes rather than doing their own thing.
>>98316282Elffag fantasyin reality Marines slaughtered their entire cucksair fleet with one battle barge
>>98316358please tell me this is an ai and not somebody actually this addicted to this general that he thinks he has the pulse of everybody he argues with
>>98316362Bro it's you every single time, you are too stupid and autistic to blend in, it's obvious now. Your typing style is the fucking same, you keep bringing up stuff from previous arguments and giving yourself away. No matter how much you try to samefag your way out of this I can see right through it.
>>98316348Welcome to Copenhagen
>>98316371I'm not even the fag you're arguing withTake your meds
I sure am glad two people who totally aren't shitposters decided to spam down 50+ posts about some space marine character and then start accusing each other of being their scapegoats Always a good time on this general
>>98316376LOL stay shittershattered
>Space Marine fags are so unhinged now that they throw a tantrum if people who aren't even muhreen fans don't know their speshul characters by name
>>98316383Trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules btw
>>98316382>both sides bad loldoakes.jpg
>>98316390Stay in your discord
>>98316389Then you should probably stop doing it, "glup shitto larper codices" anon
>>98316387Ntab -> >>98316267>I don't even FUCKING PLAY SPACE MARINESTurn off the computer and touch some grass.
>>98316397Meds.
>>98315698>blackwash existed art with a pale elfWestoids aren't people
Holy shit this place sucksI'm a played-as-a-kid fag looking for a place to talk about 40k that wasn't troon and consoom slop friendly. Please tell me the faggotry and spastic tatrums are not so completely universal in the fandom
I too am in this thread
>>98316406We have to do a little gatekeeping shitting on newfags or it will turn into the troon and consoom slop friendly shit you are trying to avoid. It just comes with the territory, man.
>>98316406nigga remember where you are, spergouts are inevitable
>>98316408Kek
>>98316398No, I'd rather watch retards on the internet fight
decalfag could save /40kg/
>>98316406>Never seen a spergout or tantrum in a general, let alone /tg/, let alone 4chinsyou are the one i think is new
>>98316406Stay gone brainrotted faggot
Alright let's all start fresh and make up.As long as we all agree we don't want normies and troons here, and newfags can be a little humble and admit when they are wrong sometimes, we can be cool.
>>98316267
>>98316422gatekeeping has literally never worked on a single personget fucked nigger
>>98316409>>98316410>>98316418its not even a good sperg out i can laugh at tho, its just>take meds>your army/character is gayIts barely above primaris bitching
>>98316267>anon is mad about that he knoews the most famous major players in each marine chapter that GW constantly advertizeThis is the same level of stupidity as getting mad about knowing the BigMac exists, even though you never eat at McDonalds.
>>98316430Patently untrue
>>98316432not here not entertain you little zoomie go back to doomscrolling tik tok till your braim fucking dies
>>98316430Gatekeeping can work, but it only works at local level. Ie. your own friend group.However, you are not gatekeeping the entire 40k setting/hobby, for it's an IP owned by a multi-billion dollar corporation. Anyone who tries equating gatekeeping to this, is a delusional retard.
Occasional reminder that there are actual unironic mentally ill schizos on this site.
>>98316432>primaris bitchingThis is simply a duty of all men with taste. It's dirty work but it must be done.
>>98316438i'd gatekeep all you fuckers if i could
>>98316442>This is simply a duty of all men with taste.
>>98316444You are on 4chan, if you could do anything you wouldn't even be here in the first place.
How about we all calm down and talk about what we actually like orks :D about 40k
>>98316447I like the miniatures and I enjoy painting them a lot :)
Anyone got tips for painting without hurting your back bending over close to the model to see what you're doing? I'm always getting shrimplified when I do it.
i love to hatemore than anything i hate the faggot fucking band kid retards>uhhhm that was awkward now kiss lets just stop guys..i get your social anxiety and autism makes any kind of confrontation difficult to deal with but this is 4channel dot net and i will say what i like go fuck yourself to death 6 times in a row
>>98316440You don't understand he doesn't capitalize a word I KNOW it's him
>>98316453I adjusted the my light to be higher up so I end up having to put my elbows on the table so my posture is naturally a little bit higher. It didnt completely fix the shrimping but it helped a lot.
>>98316456This. If an argument bothers someone, they can mute the fucking posts.At what point does someone get so affected by strangers arguing online that the thread is "ruined" by it?
>>98316432>bitchingI know what you areAnd fuck primaris
>>98316447I like chaos idols
>>98316282Lucky human
>>98316467The left one looks better.
>>98316282Hot
>>98315269If this is the black lion, he got mugged by Titus cause he has now his bear pelt.
>>98316485>Titus is a filthy thief Now I understand why he got happy when he met the bloody magpies
>>98316496>SM1 titusthat's a different character
>>98316497How?
>>98316517Completely different personalities.
>>98316530>what is character development after serving penitence for a crime you didn't commit for 100 years or whatever it was
>>98316530How?
>>98316535>character developmentCharacter undevelopment>>98316536Play the games. If you can't see it then you're not intelligent enough for me to waste my time on explaining it. A picture weighs a thousand words.
>>98316540I didn't call it growth for a reason.
>>98315943Necromunda might be a good place to start, particularly as a setting it has many of central thematic elements; desert badlands with sparse lawmen, greedy prospectors who won't hesitate to burn down the town for their mining rights, angry natives who like a bit of the ol' gorilla warfare
>>98316267I know Calgar, Dante and Mephiston. The others are Glup Shittos to anyone but a player that collects that army
>>98316540I have watched walkthroughs of both games, Titus is the same in both.He's head strong and stubborn like in SM1, when he learns of the Power Source, the very same one from SM1, that the Admech are fucking with he gets pissed and goes directly to Acheran to question what fucking dumbass let the rustbrains to start fucking with Chaos artifacts.
All this could be averted with a simple>post modelsIt also makes the general more pretty to look at
>>98316228I don't think they want to do him without also doing the tyrannic war veteransand I think the tyrannic war veterans are tricky to make because ultramarines are no longer the only ones justified to have anti-tyranid specialists, and there's little reason not to have anti-ork or anti-necron specialists too nowadays so gw must be stuck in decision paralysis
>>98316479no no no old good new bad, anon
>>98316543It's neither development, it's character assassination & devolution>>98316556>I have watched walkthroughs of both games, Titus is the same in both.Okay retard, even the other anon acknownledged that he's differentWhy are so many arguments on /tg/ like this?> Claim A> Argue with anons with mutually exclusive opinions B & C> Somehow they never argue each other, only you.
>>98316562the truth is almost everyone in an argument probably does have models. but post models is just a bait to get someone to post so the other person can then find some jibe or attempt to permanently anchor a modelposter to an opinion they once held and hound or harass them going forwardit is almost never a good faith check to make sure one is actually a hobbyist and not just a tourist. its an attempt to make the anonymous non-anonymous and tie a painted plastic miniature face to an argument
>>98316578This but unironically. The buzz lightyear movie looks great (no shit it was made 27 years after Toy Story), but it's otherwise a rather boring story with le twist and a good slice of minorities & lesbians.Perfect analogy.
The number one question asked by new players pre-primaris was "why are they squatting like that" by the way
>>98316598No it wasn't. The question was>why do marines get so much new shit
>>98316587they aren't mutually exclusive opinions, they both agree you're wrong, just from different points of viewif they argue with each other they would easily agree their opinions match even if they're worded differently, while they both know your bitch ass is wrong because you're a sperg
>>98316606>they aren't mutually exclusive>He has changed>He's the same in bothBrain damage?
retro hipsters forget (or weren't around for) the years of obsession with converting truescale marines that didn't look like stumpy shit.
>>98316588Since the vast majority of shitposting and bad faith arguments are made by the same anons it is good to have said anon be recognisable so he can be rightfully mocked and ignored for being a faggot.
>>98316587>it's impossible for multiple people to hold different opinions
>>98316612Good luck with that one.
>>98316608maybe when you grow up you'll find that people's words only describe a partial view of their actual opinions and aren't to be taken as literal absolutes
>>98316609Who the fuck forgot about troonscalers? GW staff mentioned that it was one of the reason behind primaris marines lmfao. You weren't there, we get it, now project these nuts in your mouth.
>>98316562here you go anon (:
>>98316614Who are you quoting? The point was that three people with differing opinions were arguing, but somehow two of them refused to acknowledge the themselves.>>98316617Ah yes, the good ol'>I didn't mispoke, you're [autistic/schizo/insert deflection]If point A is that he's a different character, point B that he's only different because he has developed, and point C is that he's the same character in both present & past, they are mutually exclusive, if they weren't mutuall exclusive then it wouldn't be a counter-point, it'd be an addition/nuance.Don't be a sore fucking faggot, you chose to jump into this and get your ass handed over, preserve the little dignity you may have left and just admit you did a stupid. Or don't, fuck if it matters.
>>98316604New players understand that marines are the main characters of the game. It's only after they pick a faction that hasn't had a new release since the invention of the steam engine that they then start complaining about every popular or relevant faction receiving a new model.
>>98316253It's weird biker marines don't.
>>98316630This is just lot a words to cope about being wrong.
>>98316612thanks for proving my point i guess. you are essentially just fishing for a face to pin to the words to tar and feather them.
>>98316630>they are mutually exclusiveonly if you take the words as is and choose to ignore the possibility that these anons have opinions that extend past their choice of words such as thinking that he's the same characters because the differences that exist aren't significant to what define the characteror thinking that he's not the same character but the differences that exist are in sound continuity with the original character these are the same stancesstop arguing with words and understand that you're arguing with people, if I or another anon were to be making arguments of the same line as your sperging ass, taking anything you say out of any existing or potential context then you'd be stuck in hours long discussions about all the ways the two characters are the same because you dared to say "they aren't the same"that's how dumb you and you alone sound to other people, and that's why they don't bother arguing with each other because they understand each other, while you don't understand shit
>>98316642Oh my god you're gonna double down?Of course he's gonna double down, he's a fucking moron.You could have at least came up with some witty banter, but you can't even fucking do that, can you? Of course fucking not, you are still a fucking moron.
>>98315822Maybe Kill Team but I don't think it's necessary or good. Then you get "uhh please give us human battlesuit pilots (???), give us human breachers, give us human pathfinders" etc etc until most of the faction is just an alternate guard skin
>>98316562I dont know what the issue is, but here's a model
Should I start doing a gsc ritual post? Should we have a ritual poater for each faction in the game?
>>98316665>Should we have a ritual poater for each faction in the game?No>Should I start doing a gsc ritual post?Yes
>something grimdark happens in fluff>"muh eisenhorn" cries the secondary. "It contradicts muh heckin wholesome eisenhorn"what causes this phenomenon amongst secondary BLfags?
>>98316562I've got nothing to post sorry anon
>>98316653>only if you take the words as isThat's how talking works, yes. If I ask you what car brands you like and you tell me you like ferrari and dislike toyota, you can't then tell me you actually don't like ferrari and kinda like toyota. The responsibility of expressing yourself properly doesn't rest on your interlocutor to figure out the extra shit you want to say.You choose to give information, you can't then act like words don't matter because you mispoke.Again, context matters, if I say>It's not the sameand you reply>it's the sameNo amount of nuance and missing words or whatever is gonna change the basic fact that our points are mutually exclusive, otherwise there wouldn't even be a fucking argument to begin with.Are you genuinely retarded?
>>98313865guard players are the lowest "game IQ" players of any faction. they consistently give each other horrendous advice and have no clue how to play their own army.
>>98316677>That's how talking works, yes.It would if you listened or were open to listen in the first place, but you aren't, you even ignored the rest of the post you're actively replying to only to double down on your autistic gotcha game.The point is that you should shut the fuck up.
>>98316685> they consistently give each other horrendous advice and have no clue how to play their own army.So like real militaries? Based
>>98316688Why would I read the rest of your mental gymnastics when it's flawed to begin with? You expect things you refuse to give, so you can fuck right off>gotcha gameMaybe if you weren't fucking retarded and high on your own fumes you'd not be debunked as easily, just a friendly tip.
>>98316562nothing new to post but here's a sorcerer
>>98316697How do you paint your whites & golds Mr tsons/ admech anon?
>>98316656>debate meee reeee!Must be hard work having to pretend to be this stupid intentionally.
Why is it always the fucking lorefags that shit up the thread?
>>98316588When someone says "post models" it just tells you already won, because the person you're arguing with has no actual arguments left.
>>98316703>debate meNo, actually, just don't be a retarded faggot
>>98316712more like a /v/ermin getting butthurt over a video game character changing when nothing even happened and they are and act the same
>>98316562Models you say?
>someone asks me to post models>i post models>tfw no replyEvery fucking time
>>98316703Nah, he's a natural, you can just tell his hobbies are crying about primaris terminators multiple times a month.
What happened to the lamenters anon? Just vanished and never came back
>>98316724got banned for shitposting at decalfag too much
>>98316619How do you do the dust on the foot? Is it pigment?I'm planning a new army and want the bases to be giga high contrast mars-esque bright red desert. Wonder if the rust pigment would work as the dust on models.
>>98316727grim
>>98316724Lamenterfag was exposed as a shitposter and they dodged.When you're outed as a thread shitter you're either addicted to the attention and become a lolcow, or your ego is too fragile and you avoid the thread as it reminds you of your own shame.
>>98316744Self imposed exile is probably the more sensible of the options.
>>98316747>>98316744>>98316738>>98316731>>98316727You’re right here though. You’ll never leave.
Bolt rifles are cooler than bolt carbines (formerly boltguns).
>>98316724she's active in the 'cord
Why is this schizo talking to me?
>>98316763the schizo is talking to everyone that's why he's a schizo
if I act like this, what faction should I play?
>>98316724Got permabanned.Mind you, the Mods don't make that decision lightly at all, and requires repeat offences of breaking rules and getting banned for it.For you to get PERMANENTLY banned means you've been up to some retarded Lolcow tier shit and you're a constant nuisance the jannies and mods have to deal with 24/7, and they basically know you by nickname basis. Eventually it gets to the point where they don't want to ever deal with you ever again so you get perma'd.
>>98316770You should play in traffic if that's how you act
>>98316724lamentranny was a shitposter whose only saving grace was hating on decalfaggot. Which in turn degraded thread as well, just like his sperging out and melting down over chuds and secondaries. So he was banned
>>98316747What would have been sensible was to not shitpost in the first place, but truth be told at least that's one less shitposter.>>98316770All communities are like this desu.Also literal who cares
>>98316770which one of the three?>the person described by the guy>the guy making the post on twitter>the anon posting a twitter screencapin any case you should buy primaris marines and paint them like niggers
>>98316763Don't worry, anon is currently groundhog day-ing and one of these loops he'll get it right and seriously freak someone out
>>98316698White is AK Blue Grey midtone, AK Dark Blue Grey for shadows and pure white for highlightsGold is Retributor Armor/TTC Dragon's Gold shaded with a 1:1 mix of Gore-Grunta Fur and Magos Purple contrasts(with multiple passes for deeper recesses) highlighted with Liberator Gold/TTC Glistening Gold and Canoptek Alloy/TTC Platinum CrownI build shadows and highlights slowly by mixing paints for fairly smooth transitions.
Any one have alternative minis or kit bases for Sanctifiers? I want to use them but hate how they look.
>>98316818WHFB Flagellants or necromunda cawdor, especially the redemptionists.
>>98316801the 2nd one
>>98316282basedhumans are rapemeat for the superior species
>>98316810Appreciate it anon, it looks smooth af. Have you been transitioning over to ttc paints?
>>98316866No problem anon. Not exclusively TTC, I also like AK 3rd gen a lot. TTC metallics are really good though, can easily recommend those.
>>98316770I get what he means by larpers and lolcows but internet bloodsports addicts??? wtf?
>>98316925He means dramafags.
>>98316925bloodsports is a subkulture of people who like to start drama (usually political), and then go on livestreams and “debate” by yelling at each other, dropping slurs, accusing the opponent of pedophilia, threatening to go to their house and kill them, ect.
>>98316770What did WHC do to this nigga to make him this mad?
>>98316941It's Bo so someone probably just posed a krieg shovel meme on one of his posts or something
>>98316937... isn't that what he's doing?
>>98316972nta but he's absolutely a projecting hypocrite, not even sure that faggot collects 40k outside of his twitter/YT milking
>>98316770The only people he blocks are the ones that point out he's a secondary.
>>98316941he's a larper who gets mad when you (very easily) point out he's wrong on something
>>98315538custodes>use bolters>have dreadnoughts>use terminator armor>are genetically enhanced supersoldiers who are 'the emperor's finest'>share all the design features of space marines just with more ornamentationno they are not LITERALLY space marines, but you have to be willingly blind to not clearly see how they're intended to clearly just be space marines+
>>98317005>when youBut I won't work at WHC.
>>98316093it doesn't need to be a game mechanic, anon, but this is supposed to be a grimdark settingthe latest capeshit movie (supergirl) features a villain faction who kidnap girls to turn them into sex slaves, if mainstream movie sloppa is darker than warhammer, it's fucking over
>>98315538Nah anons are right; they are pretty much space marines
>>98317077edgy isn't the same as dark, kid
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Should I paint 18 windriders so I can run windrider host?
>>98317098sure, but 40k is edgy as fuck
>>98316770This retarded literal faggot grifter only talks about warhammer in twitter to bait engagement so he can make money from his blue checkmark.
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>>98315661beautiful army, i like how the bases are matched to the table too. Hope your guys get better rules soon.
>>98316005Yes I distinctly remember a tau datasheet from white dwarf I want to say 7th edition but its a complete guess
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmvlnxjdzcQ&pp=ygUYc29sdXMgYXN0b3JpYXMgd2FyaGFtbWVyLOL
>>98314599>Indiathat's Nurgle realm
