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>Previous Thread:
>>98313708

>Thread Question:
Who’s the biggest boss in your army? Post him.
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>guard at a 30% winrate
This edition churn is unsustainable
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>>98317104
Should I paint 9-18 windriders 9-18 shroud runners and 9-18 shining spears so I can run windrider host?
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>>98317117
>rogal dorns go up to 400 points
>this happens
KWAB
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I like orks :D
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Why won't GW try to make historical minis and game
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>>98317165
>steel legion
They will rape them with the nu design
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>>98317170
Because it doesn't sell as well and the perry twins are gone
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>>98317171
Yes, we have seen concept already
The fact alone that they are getting rid off "S" inspired by BUF/Sig-Rune just to replace it with "A" nukes them completely
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>no regular intercessors on the webstore
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>>98317171
Lol, I can already imagine.
>THESE COATS ARE 0.5MM SHORTER THAN THE ORIGINAL DESIGNS. AND THE GLOVES. THEY ARE LONGER THAN REGULATION! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>98317170
It did once, fantasy and sci fi minis sell best
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>>98317165
LE ECKS DEE XD XDXD
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>>98317181
>steel legion? That's just a krieg palette swap
>Okay, make it a cadian palette swap
Fuck this 3rd party looking shit
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>>98317184
I think the problem isn't much that they'll be different, but mostly that they will look like shit on top of it.
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>>98317170
They have a gentleman's agreement with the rest of the Nottingham based wargames industry many of whom are ex-GW employees and will employ current GW employees after they leave the company.
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>>98317190
steel legion came before krieg, secondary-kun
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my LGS is filled with players who
>only play current edition
>obsess over the rules and rules as written
>greytide armies
>constantly discuss win rates, combos etc
>unpainted terrain
>get mad when you bring up the paimting rule ("we dont play with that here")
>are actually shit
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>>98317201
Who are you quoting?
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>>98317202
They also play MTG. I know it.
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>>98317202
Based gameplay enjoyers. Continue impotently coping and seething, majorkillfag.
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>>98317202
Mine isn't.
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>>98317208
half of them do, yes
or pokemon
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>>98317202
Even the most shittily painted salamanders have 15,000x more soul than an unpainted army.
Although I hope you don't mind people running a few grey units, I'm busy with work and I don't always have time to finish my list before game day.
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>>98317218
They also love lolis and gachas
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>>98317202
everyone ive played against has a competitive list, and its all they fuckin talk about in the group chat. ive come across one person that plays fun lists and thats it
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>>98317223
nta but that shit is ok, its only when you see the same player fielding the same half painted army for months on end. those cunts need to fuck off
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>>98317182
They are getting squatted and replaced by updated tactical squads. There's also an updated rhino.
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>unpainted terrain

thats up to the lgs to fix that issue, not the players
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>>98317132
EXODITES
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>>98317182
I hope they don't replace them with shitty armageddon style ones.
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>>98317182
>>98317237
We're getting the new ones instead 100%
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>>98317232
I hope they at least give intercessors combi weapons for the sergeants now that they split the profiles.
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>>98317232
>updated tactical squad
It's still gonna be the same fucking intercessors, but instead you'll have a few options for the sgt melee weapons and a few mk7/mk6 helmets & shoulder pads.

It's gonna be the biggest nothingburger of the decade. I'll keep my money till I see if the Scouring happens for HH & brings updated mk7s
If I'm gonna deal with shitty kits at least I'll take the ones that look decent.
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>>98317234
lgs wont fix the issue if the players dont care
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>>98317247
>It's still gonna be the same fucking intercessors,
Hopefully.
I don't want those niggers without the circle kneepads, or the non-uniform chest details.
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>>98317247
I honestly don't care about the models themselves. I will never buy a primaris model and have been using updated 30k models for my 40k army for years. But I want the actual unit to keep existing. It's insante to me that someone might prefer intercessors to tacticals, be it 40k tacs or 30k tacs. Both are inherently more interesting and fun units than intercessors.
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Any World Eater bros here?
Is this list good or shit?

World Eaters
Strike Force
Brazen Engines and Khorne Daemonkin
Force Dispositions: Purge the Foe, Reconnaissance

CHARACTERS
Bloodthirster (320 points)
• 1x Great axe of Khorne
Daemon Prince of Khorne (225 points)
• Warlord
• Enhancement: Icon of War
Master of Executions (80 points)
• Enhancement: Blood-Forged Armour

BATTLELINE
3 x Bloodletters (270 points)

OTHER DATASHEETS
3 x Bloodcrushers (295 points)
Defiler (270 points)
• 1x Electroscourge
1x Hades battle cannon
1x Heavy baleflamer
2x Magma cutters
1x Shearing claws
Flesh Hounds (75 points)
Heldrake (175 points)
2 x Maulerfiend (290 points)
• 1x Lasher tendrils
1x Maulerfiend fists
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There was no option.
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>>98317257
noncanon, everyone knows marines don't have bones
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>>98317257
why is she wearing loona's clothes
>vatnigger runes in filename
nevermind
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>>98317257
LMAO

LOL

SEX

GOT IT?

THE JOKE IS SEX

LAWL
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>>98317255
>Both are inherently more interesting and fun units than intercessors.
How?
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>>98317257
Why is she walking away from the skeleton if the point of there being a skeleton is that enough time passed for flesh to rot away after whatever pelvis breaking action originally killed the man?

How do these people have less critical thinking than bots?
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>>98317270
>Why is she walking away from the skeleton
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>>98317104
>Who’s the biggest boss in your army?
>Him
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>>98317144
Hell yeah.
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What is the future of Chaos Daemons in Warhammer 40,000?
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>>98317264
>GOT IT?

>THE JOKE IS SEX
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>>98317288
segs
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>>98317171
>>98317181
>>98317184
You're conflating two different people who ended up whining about the lack of steel legions.

On one side there's grogs or fake grogs who are not going to be happy regardless of what ends up being made and will jump to the immediate next argument, because they don't want the steel legion, they just want to whine about gw.
On the other side there's normie smoothbrains who think only the steel legion fights on armageddon, or that yarrick is a steel legion character, and cannot even wrap their head around the idea of reskins or conversions, they don't want the steel legion either, they just want to consume a gw product with the name Steel Legion™.
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>>98317283
Removed as a standalone army, only a few units will stay in their respective god-aligned codex, and only in a restricted detachment, and eventually those too will be removed for new demon units with 40k-specific designs that will be normal parts of those armies but won't be enough to make up for the lost demons.
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>>98317267
Both the 30k and 40k versions of tacs have more transport options and more wargear that can impact the playstyle and function of the unit in the army. 30k tacs lack special weapons but get bayonets, nuncio vox and can opt out of a transport for a 20 man squad aswell as the same double shot rule as intercessors. Intercessors have none of those advantages and only really get used as a single 5 man squad to get sticky on an objective.
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>>98317283
if gw is clever enough they will see that cross compatibility between ranges is a recipe for success and walk back on the dumb direction they have got going on
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>>98317298
You hit the nail on the head.
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Have these kickass dudes ever came back? In their own release or maybe just an upgrade sprue?
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>>98317181
Looks shit, they can keep ignoring them after all
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>>98317253
Nigga then why didn't you buy more intercessors back then if you just want regular intercessors?

>>98317255
Based
Tactical squads forever
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>>98317326
I need this for AdMech man. I fucking hate the davinci stuff and I love the 30k robots.
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Have yall mentally clocked out of this edition? Seems to me like they changed (mostly) the wrong things & it'll be another 3 years of 'everything has a 3+/4++/5++ & if you bring anything that isn't a lascannon it's a joke,' so I've already decided to not play the game much at all outside a couple local rtts (and that's mainly just as an excuse to hang with friends.)
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>>98317257
Why is she dressed like loona from helluvaboss
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>>98317202
why would you play with an unpainted army
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>>98317270
>Why is she walking away from the skeleton if the point of there being a skeleton is that enough time passed for flesh to rot away after whatever pelvis breaking action originally killed the man?
Well, who says she stopped after fracturing his pelvis?
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>>98317341
I’ll keep playing older editions but do want to try 11th once we get a few codexes. 10th turned me completely off the game after a few rounds during release.
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>>98317298
Are you the faggot that whined for several threads about how people couldn't ask for new steel legion because you headswapped cadians and you thought it was the coolest shit ever and so everyone was to do the same?

Stay on reddit.
>>98317332
Praetorians are just mordians with a headswap, just gotta wait for new mordians :^)
>imperial guard casualty models
holy soul
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>>98317214
sybau
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>>98317345
If you only care about the game then it's just tokens & pawns anyway, why paint them? All that matters is winning and list making / deck building.
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>>98317350
>because you headswapped cadians
No, that wasn't me, but maybe you should try that if you want the steel legion, or repaint some kriegers.
Unless you don't actually want the steel legion.
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>>98317144
Yes, but not the old bikes. They look like trash. Fucking dildos with dildo riders. I too am excited for bike bonanza! Except I only have 6 shroud runners and 3 shining spears, but I do have 24 bikes
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>>98317298
Grog wants the design they love. They don't want remakes or reimaginings or what have you.
>>98317181if this garbage is what they are going with for the new Steel Legion it's already fucked six ways to sunday.
BTW, can the designers FUCK OFF with up armouring everthing. We don't need armour on their shins and gloves and knees and shoulders FUCK OFF. The new commissars look like shit for the same reason, with their gay armoured vanbraces and armour shoulderpads.
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>>98317375
>Grog wants the design they love. They don't want remakes
Then get recasts instead of asking for new kits.
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>>98317365
>no, that wasn't me
I don't believe you, but that's irrelevant.
I'd rather buy some nice STLs for a fraction of GW pricing But I'm trying to get them for free first
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>>98317270
The flesh got vaporized by the pressure
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>>98317390
NTA but why is it so hard to understand the concept of wanting a proportion and detail upgrade without radically changing the design?
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>>98317337
>Nigga then why didn't you buy more intercessors back then if you just want regular intercessors?
I do have a lot. But there might be some future need for more, and I don't want the scrapheap aesthetic.
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>>98317392
You should be able to find the scans in the archive
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>>98317401
These cocksuckers are contrarian by nature. They are the same types who you can show an image of 20 guardsmen from 20 different regiments, all with different gear and uniforms and say,
>ARRR ROOK THE SAME
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>>98317401
Because you don't actually want a proportion and detail upgrade, you'll consider anything a radical change in the design, including any improvement in the proportions and details.
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Okay guys I know how to make Eldar more popular
We just need to make a new Farseer character who has a REALLY big ass
Not comically big, but enough to stand out.
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>>98317341
Every change in 11th has been an improvement over 10th (except killing crusade, that's just retarded) the issue is that its core is still 10th and that core fucking sucks. We need AVs, vehicle damage charts, templates, old AP, 30k style morale and flyers and 30k numbers for shots, wounds and damage, no rerolls, psychic tests and disciplines, an actual FOC, actual granular points and warlord traits and relics so that named characters aren't completely mandatory.
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>>98317417
But this is just wrong. Look at the updates for terminators or eldar. Absolutely nobody has had an issue with them because they didn't change the design and everyone can see the detail is crisper and the proportions a lot better.
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>>98317283
Imperialization of Chaos
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>>98317417
That's exactly what everyone wants. >>98317181
We can see from the shitty sketch that GW is already NOT going to do that.
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>>98317404
>I would like it to remain available for later
Well welcome to the club, how the turn tables

>>98317407
I already have these, I mean 3rd party "updated" steel legion
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>>98314055
Why not just remove those fans, then?
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>>98317423
marinefags and eldarfags aren't guardfags

guardfags whine about any and all change, including the ones on the cadians and kriegers
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>>98317443
Then you have no game, faggot.
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>>98317326
>cross compatibility between ranges is a recipe for success
Is it? Sincerely, I don't know what the numbers look like on GW's end.
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>>98317445
>a decade of Primaris vs Firstborn arguments
>eldarifags rejecting the new plastic dark reapers and banshees because of minuet details on their boots and helmets
Nigga you are all the same. This is a game about models every square inch of every model will be gone over with a fine tooth comb for people to pick apart and complain about.
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When will they rerelease this model?
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>>98317446
but anon those guys don't play games, they're all secondaries. just shoot them.
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>>98317456
Never. You snooze you lose.
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>>98317451
It can only lead to more sales, never less.
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I pray that James Workshop remembers that the SoB played a big part on Armageddon too, not just marines, and that we get something cool too. There's been so many new marine models lately between two starter sets and the new Armageddon characters. It's funny watching the largest book with the most options and most models by far, continue to grow.
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>>98317455
>eldarifags rejecting the new plastic dark reapers and banshees because of minuet details on their boots and helmets
Except this never happened. Some people had minor gripes but in general people were very happy with the refreshed aspect warriors and how they remained faithful to the older aesthetic
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>>98317264
The joke is sex? That explains why I don't get it!
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>>98317456
One day, trust
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>>98317437
nta, but tiny legend's blitz legion look great, and compatible with GW's current IG kits if you want to kitbash. I've been digging around /3dpg/ for stls, but not luck yet. Found all of their Krieg stuff tho
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>>98317479
Kek
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>>98317477
aeldarifags here lost their minds about those models and they couldn't stop talking about it for weeks after their reveals.
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>>98317455
New eldar models were generally well received and people who keep complaining about primaris don't even play the game.
Guardfags actively complain about their literally who regiment from planet glubshittoria based on the german uniforms from the desert campaign of 1941 not having an entire separate dedicated to it.
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>>98317481
>all of their krieg stuff
How up to date are you? I've got the old stuff

And yeah, I was subtly refering to tiny legend's blitz guys. Was waiting to see their heavy bolter teams and I am not disappointed, so either I can get them somewhere for free or I'll just buy the STLs
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>>98317490
>Guardfags actively complain about their literally who regiment from planet glubshittoria based on the german uniforms from the desert campaign of 1941 not having an entire separate dedicated to it.
Steel Legion already had a release stupid fuck we are talking about redesigns and refreshes not whatever nonsense you vomited out of your ass.
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>>98317443
well that would require somehow removing secondaries and tertiaries. this sounds good on paper. in practice, there are millions of them. you would need an actual government prosecuting and arresting secondaries to deal with the sheer number of them. so the best thing to do is to just ignore them and laugh at them whenever you do see them say lolcow stuff
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>>98317487
It was just larpers as the new dark reapers look exactly like the previous ones.
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>>98317490
>It's another episode of "bitching while pretending others are bitching"
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>>98317496
>Steel Legion already had a release
So why are you complaining?
Guardsmen are guardsmen, you don't need 120 flavors of the same thing. Fuck off, manchild, just kitbash them.
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>>98317501
Just like the incoming steel legion look exactly like the old ones
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>>98317326
I think Custodes are their testbed for that idea. If they do better than before, then it’s worth removing their pseudo-compatibility barrier. If not, then no loss, it’s just Custodes. That said, aside from the new guard sodalities, the rest of the HH Custodes updates have been pretty solid. Their sales figures likely would’ve been fine all on their own.
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>>98317501
All of these are great. Aspect warriors have always been really good looking models, maybe the very first banshees and swooping Hawks were mediocre but overall a very good set of designs.
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>>98317298
Yeah, you definitely hit the nail on the head here.
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>>98317501
Why new laucnher small
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>>98317501
>guardfags cry about unimportant shit and details on their models
>uh so do marine and eldarfags, in fact eldarfags complained about helmet and boot details just like the steel legion fans did
>uuuhhhhh those are larpers and secondaries and tertiaries and they aren't real fans and and uh Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

you guys are so full of shit and argue in bad faith it's amazing.
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>>98317510
They are clearly the range on whose designs Jes poured his heart and soul into. The eldar in general are his babies and it shows. They are the best looking range in the whole game.
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>>98317202
literally no one plays in a fun way. everyone min maxes, every army has 10 characters, the game is more about "movement shenanigans" than anything else, no one knows the rules and abilities of their own armies.
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>>98317506
>this shit again
And yet we're getting at least 3 imperial guard refreshes, prepare to be assblasted
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>>98317495
Only got older stuff too maybe to about 2024
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>>98317202
Can you post your painted army?
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>>98317515
Guardfags threw such a babyrage tantrum that GW actually had to respond and show the design sheets for steel legion though.
Neither marinefags nor eldarfags ever caused such a thing to occur to my knowledge.
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>>98317529
Bro your primaris leak? Your 2 dozen articles telling firstborn marine players that their models aren't going away and they can still use them???
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>>98317516
Eldar novel and shit is retarded, but otherwise Eldar fluff and art is so fucking good. Jes is the goat and it doesn't help that eldars as a whole were his pet faction.
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>>98317507
The concept art already looks very different mate.
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>>98317515
>ELDAR PLAYERS COMPLAINED ABOUT THE NEW ASPECTS!!!!
Let me guess. It came to you in a dream.
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>>98317518
Bro, knock yourself out, I wish you 10 more refreshes.
I think it's retarded and IG is (along with a bunch others) already bloated in terms of units but piggies love their slop.
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>>98317521
>up to 2024
Noice, Best I've got is 2022

I will now beg
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>>98317516
I wish Jes had focused on Eldar instead of ruining marines forever.
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>>98317547
I doubt that the primaris marines stuff was his idea.
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>>98317542
Just say you weren't here when the aspect warriors got refreshed. It would save us from your inane, 'it didn't happen' posts
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>>98317544
>bloated
What's bloated is useless shit like named character, like the new baldissar on her judge dredd car.

When I see the kind of garbage GW shits out (like yesterday's marine reveal) I'm okay with "IG bloat" consisting of more flavors of infantry.
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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>>98317554
>I was just following orders.
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>>98317547
>ruining marines forever.
Marinefags brought it on themselves.
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>>98317243
We just got new ones. Maybe a new multipart set in 18 months when Armageddon sells out and everyone has bought a starter set.

15 brand new intercessor sculpts and some people think they're getting squatted for new tacticals lmao.
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>>98317546
>YUhSMGNITTZMeTluYjJacGJHVXVhVzh2WkM5V01ETlpXakk9
Honestly, I don't have that much. Just what I could find on telegram. Also happen to have a link ready because I was sharing them with a buddy.
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>>98317481
Here you go:
catbox(dot)to/Wnl7n1DFfnNbavy/file
... Get telegram it took like 2 minutes to find them.
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>>98317267
old good new bad
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>>98317547
I'm still convinced that his redesign of space marine was more extensive and GW and the CAD monkeys were the ones to made it shit.

Like picrel where it's visually clear gulliman is in a dreadnought-like suit, akin to robocop being "stuck in the suit". And then you see the actual gulliman model and it's just big space marine x Emperor 2.

That's the modeling curse you see in video games too; the 3D model is rarely (if ever) made by the OG artist/art director and is always a downgrade compared to the artwork.
And it's not some bullshit about how it's hard to fully capture a 2D image to 3D, it's often messed proportions and details because the modeler doesn't understand why some lines and shapes are where they are. Anyway, schizo ramblings.
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What will the grey knight refresh look like? Wil it be good?
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>>98317326
10 thousand years and no change in form or function. Game's gone.
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>>98317574
the model is very faithful to this artwork, you're crazy
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>>98317575
they will get taller but not share some of the more retarded primaris design cues (revolver cylinder, toilet bowl gorget). all of them will be standing on tactical rocks.
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>>98317578
You'd make agreat CAD monkey
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>>98317575
It will be good if it's not handled by the sculptress who did coteaz and the sanguinary guard.
It will be good if it's handled by whoever did black templars and space wolves.
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>>98317575
It will be perfect and everyone will hate it
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>>98317571
Fucking hell. Thanks man!
>get telegram
I already do. I guess I'm just not on the right groups.
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>>98317283
Ensnared by predatory loans from the Forge of Souls
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Wanted to see what I need to round this out and it looks like I have 3 Battle Sister squads (two with storm/heavy bolter one with twin meltas), 2 Domions with flamers, and only 4 repentia with their mistress.
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>>98317595
nobody forced you to sign
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>>98317574
The model looks almost exactly the same though.
Maybe you have this perception because the head in this lineart is much smaller than on the actual model.
Plastic Guilliman already has a proportionally small head, this would look silly in 3d.
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>>98317515
Eldar fans are genuinely the biggest pieces of shit in the community. It's like they've made it their goal to be as spiteful and angry as possible only to project that anger onto others when called out about it. They'll screech and moan about BL being bad then without fail bitch about it when they get ignored by BL.
Nothing is ever good enough for an Eldar fan, and if you're happy about something they'll make it their mission to try and change your mind.
Ironically, despite how much they bitch about the lore, they're also the fans with the least amount custom fluff. There's NEVER been any Eldar /your dudes/ here.
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>>98317533
NTA but that's an awful example to use given that things panned out basically exactly how those Marine players feared.
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>>98317597
I also need to get a couple of Sister Superiors, one more heavy weapon for a ret squad and then some random bullshit to full out a 4th Battle Sister squad
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>>98317597
What edition? Because in 3rd/4th you have a functional army already.
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>>98317589
You're either blind or just mad that guilliman isn't microcephalic.

The "stuck in a dreadnought" thing is pure nonsense as the idea that there isn't a continuous interaction between lead designer and sculptor up to the evey end of the product.
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>>98317575
they will be taller but still extremely overdesigned with way too many little doodads.
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>>98317613
You can still run Tac Marines.
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>>98317616
I don't even know anymore, 11th I guess?
I have lots more modern sisters in addition to these, I was just putting together all the metal ones.
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>>98317570
Cheers mate, appreciated
>>98317571
Unfathomably based, appreciated
>telegram
I really gotta set this shit up

Now all I'm missing is the cadian back plugs and we're balling
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>>98317501
>as the new dark reapers look exactly like the previous ones.
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>>98317601
>>98317619
>it's the same
>focuses on all that is the same rather than what differs
You don't get it, can't make a blind man see nor should I waste energy on trying.
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We need more Imperial Knights.
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>>98317298
>On the other side there's normie smoothbrains who think only the steel legion fights on armageddon
no one would have cared if steel legion were fighting alongside krieg and cadian. its that they are absent from their home planet is what makes it retarded, retard.
kill yourself.
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>>98317456
Once maxime pastourel becomes lead creative director of 40k
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>>98317636
>no, you see, this vague idea that I invented in my head and won't actually explain is the actual TRVE vision of Jes Goodwin
Ok buddy.
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I am having so much fun modifying my armageddon orks so they're not all identical. This is what it's all about baby!
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>>98317593
All good brother! I found them in the group : U2hhcmVoYW1tZXIgMi4w
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>>98317636
You don't even know what you are seeing, and inventing whole stories about why your gut feeling doesn't match any actual real point.

You got blindsided by a small head in a concept art, be real.
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>>98317651
>pirate ork flag
treasure map as the flag
now!
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>>98317650
>>98317661
>let's agree to disagree
>NOOOOO
last (you)
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>>98317625
Maybe I will give 3rd Witch Hunters a try, karamazov is just out of frame anyway.
How is 3rd? I will probably have to hunt down a group that still plays. I started in 4th when I was in school (I started just before the BT codex came out, I remember the red shirt telling me it was coming) and have been in and out of the game since so 3rd has eluded me
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Whenver an ultamarine isnt on screen everybody should be asking where are the ultramarines?
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>>98317656
Blessed you, anon!
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>>98317501
1991 mogs so hard it's not even fair
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>>98317666
Whatever schizophrenic shit you belched out isn't suddenly valid just because you call it an opinion of yours, retard.
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>>98317673
Feels good :) sharing stls to anons is a small service to atone for my many retarded sins and negative karma
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>>98317501
Do they fire the entire warhead-looking thing at the front? Or are the little holes actually barrels and these are like miniguns?
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>>98317456
Reminder that according to GW, a Lord of Contagion should be on a 40mm base.
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>>98317669
Many corollaries to that.
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Today I make terminators.
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>>98317456
>bought this guy back when he was dirt-cheap on ebay
>cut off his axe head like a retard for a conversion that I never even went through with
UGHHHHHHHH FUUUUUUCK
I guess I could give him a hammer or something
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What weapon loadout for the warp spider exarch?

Full blades sounds really fun, I like the sound of "yeah my squad leader has 10 attacks"
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>>98317479
Good one
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>>98317685
Actually it’s negative dharma because you haven’t credited everyone involved at every step of the way and have masked the good others do in your selfish vainglory.

Please consider the Indian support team for the apps you use and the Chinese plastic-mixers for your inspiration. Many died so you could bundle their achievements with your own.

Next time you want to do a good thing, do nothing.
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If you go full copium there's at least a possibility that other chapters will get a character releases at the same time as well and they've only chose to show Calgar's former college roommate first.
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>>98317687
The projectiles come from the tiny holes, but they have spare heads for the weapon, so they must also somehow ruin, overheat, or contain the ammunition themselves.
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>>98317703
Yeah, we're getting his towel boy next
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>>98317698
Powerblade array if you're running with Lykhis.

plus it looks cool
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I don't know what any of that means but thanks I guess :P
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>>98317181
This shit unironically is just Krieg. This isn't Steel Legion.
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>>98316005
>>98316084
This is what I found in Taros
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>>98317676
That's just the exarch helmet which also looks almost the same in the new kit.
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>>98317725
That face looks so silly lol
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>>98317728
Sure, but that's how it has looked for the past 30 years.
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>>98317698
There's this turbo WAACfag Youtube channel called Craftworld Eldar who will tell you all about it.
Basically this >>98317717 but they're all viable one way or another except perhaps the blade and gun combo. You want to commit to ranged or melee.
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>>98317725
>Almost the same.
>My 5'9 is almost the same as his 6'1
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>>98317725
Do you just pretend to be blind and retarded or..?
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>>98317479
Fuck, that caught me off guard.
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there's an exec in gee-dub with a fetish for bald women, and i kneel to him
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>>98317725
D`..’D
-|-I-|-
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when are they releasing another edition of Space Hulk?
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>>98317749
ponder the aroma
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>>98317725
>That's just the exarch helmet
no, that was the norm for the squad
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>>98317752
The exact day after you die of diabetic shock.
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Anyone got any kitbash ideas for eldar warlocks?

I need a million fucking warlocks for seer council but warlocks only come in a kit of 2 for $60, and it only includes 1 spear and 1 sword. I am NOT paypigging for that.
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>>98317636
The model is faithful to the art, don't be retarded.
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>>98317651
>>98317651
>>98317651
You able to put the ork Bigboss next to one of pic related, if you have any?
I wanna check scale between both to convert a BB out of the old Nobz kit.
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>>98317749
i think that's just the SEA twitter artists ignoring any and all lore to slap massive tits on every xenos and calling them mommy
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>>98317611
uh oh, delusional mon'keigh melty
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Plotting out some homebrew rules and I've hit a bit of a roadblock when it comes to Death Company. Were they better off as something you roll for like in 3e or just another unit like in 5e onward?
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>>98317777
Feel like it works better as an upgrade, like chosen are in TOW.
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>>98317777
Just another unit. The Black Rage spontaneously happening should be a rule that fires marines randomly out of coherency like a missile and then they die.
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>>98317611
I play orks but I cannot imagine being so fucking pathetic that you genuinely hate "eldar players" so much you post about it on an obscure anime forum for 10 years. You must be absolutely miserable.
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>>98317773
> slap massive tits on every xenos and calling them mommy
You say this like it's wrong or immoral in some way.
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>>98317784
Explain pls
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>>98317574
The only difference between this and the actual model is he has weapons, random purity seals, slightly less cabling, and he's in an action pose.
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>>98317611
That's a whole lot of projecting.
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>>98317777
Oh, and should chainswords Shred like in Heresy or just be regular CCW's?
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>>98317793
Savage orcs aren't their own unit entry, but you can "upgrade" most orc units with the frenzied special rule and tribal tattoos to make them into savage orcs for like 2ppm
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>>98317574
>>98317800
I see like 3 differences
The wings on the shoulders aren’t as pronounced
He has weapons
He isn’t microcephalic
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>>98317757
https://gofile.io/d/hK6YIo
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>>98317801
We like hot aliens as long as the designs are good
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>reading through Cain novels
>Cain inquires about the status of an enemy
>"Deader than Horus" replies the soldier
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>>98317703
They're def giving us
>Pedro Kantor
>Gabriel Seth
>Some literal who
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>>98317501
The paintjob on the 2006 is genius, painting the armor panels like bones/ribs go hard
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>>98317828
>They're def giving us
No
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>>98317611
>They'll screech and moan about BL being bad
BL is bad.
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>we like porn its porn sir we like sex mommy milky big milk truk based based based based
all jeets must die
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>>98317806
Either go back to 4th edition style melee weapons or go with 30k's version. Current melee just feels weird and inconsistent.
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>>98317283
Forever index. They’re not retarded enough to pull another Deathwatch but they’re not about to piss off their accountants by making more cross-compatible units. Ignore the faggots saying they’re squatted, they’re holdovers from AoS.
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>>98317770
Same exact size, maybe elevate the nob with a little cork. Honestly there is barely anything distinguishing the Bigboss from a Nob with big choppa. Maybe the horns on his back?
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>>98317793
In TOW there's not a unit called chosen like in some WHFB editions or in AoS. Instead, you can upgrade a single chaos warrior or knight unit to chosen and they get some bonuses.
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>>98317801
There is literally nothing wrong with angry warrior women who have big boobies.
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>>98317839
You think we're not getting pedro or seth?
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>>98317848
you must be thinking about a different edition
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>>98317866
Not with this wave of releases, no.
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>>98317876
Perhaps
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>there is nothing wrong with porn sir you like big sexy mommy yes what if this goat was big sexy mommy i will pretend
all subhumans are the same
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>>98317870
Might be 6th.
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>>98317891
probably
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Someone told me the theme for this month's collage is heavy, large things. I painted this last night, and it's the biggest I've got, a paragon warsuit.
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>>98317476
>I pray that James Workshop remembers the SoB
too bad
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>>98317749
I find it indescribably hot that a GSC girl might get mindbroken when she realizes that her entire genetic purpose is just to be Tyranid bait. Emotionally-vulnerable ex-GSC pussy has got to be the most coveted resource in the galaxy. Imagine her getting a hysterectomy just so she can have condomless sex with you without fear of gestating a purestrain.
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>>98317575
they'll take the cool helmets and make them gayer somehow
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>>98317757
this guy showed up for me 2 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3CSxSaeLDw
Eldar Corsairs kit is a nice source of many bits in general
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>>98317476
We just got Intranzia though.
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>>98317913
>Imagine her getting a hysterectomy just so she can have condomless sex with you without fear of gestating a purestrain.
You'd both still catch the genetic payload and therefore you'd develop and urge to have children with someone else, with her consent
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>>98317889
What are you talking about?
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>>98317202
Painting is actually one of the most stressful things I've ever done in any hobby. I have wonderful ideas about what I'd like to make things feel like, but lack aesthetic envisioning that ends up a reality. I end up playing with models from eBay someone else painted.
I want to enjoy painting, but no amount of "just turn on a podcast bro", "just watch these 17 tutorial videos and you'll be perfect!" shit helps.
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>>98317913
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>>98317777
Do both and be done with it
>blood angel squad
>blood angel squad (with apothecary check optional upgrade)
>death company squad

you can purchase the apothecary check upgrade for any non death company squad in the army, it increases the cost of the unit with no benefit associated to it, but for every unit you haven't purchased the option for there is a risk of one of your units succumbing to their flaws at the start of the game or during its course, this is randomised and could even hit a squad that purchased the apothecary check, the option is associated to the units only for ease of conventional listbuilding and to keep in mind exactly how many total risks there are in your army
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Around two weeks until we can expect GW's first crack at fixing what's wrong with 11th. What are the biggest offenders right now?
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>>98317936
How the fuck are you overspilling on highlights? You're supposed to paint such a tiny surface it's impossible to spill over.
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>>98317944
buff eldar
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>>98317948
People bad at edge highlights make thick edge highlights
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I AM THE GREAT KORNHOLIUS! THERE WILL BE MORE BUNGHOLES AFTER ME
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>>98317948
>just paint better bro
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>>98317960
why do they keep adding these glub shittos for ultramarines?
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>>98317847
Damn, they really are identical proportions. Perfect. Was thinking the same thing with alittle cork and spare bits for elevation.

Thanks ork-anon, working on a bunch of orks today so will post what i come up with later!
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>>98317948
>how are you painting a larger area than intended when trying to paint an extremely small area
dude
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>>98317777
Something you roll. That allowed them to be really different and special. If you want more predictability or balance for the sake of balance, then keep them as a unit. If you really want you can have both and retool them to be unique.
Also check'd
>chainswords
That's up to you and the level of abstraction/freedom you want. If you want chainsword to feel special/different then you can give them a little something, otherwise you can simplify things and have it just be a melee weapon.

In short: depends on your desired granularity for melee.
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>>98317960
he looks so fucking goofy
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>>98317960
Colonel Wolodyjowski my liege..
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>>98317960
Why should I get this guy and not the victrix guard?
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>>98317936
practice more
that's literally it
painting minis is an art and the only way to get better is to paint more
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>>98317968
glup shittos are random characters no one knows about but do exist , this guy was just pulled out of their asses
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>>98317479
>posting the edited Daggerears
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>>98317915
Yeah the corsair sprue has a shitload of cool stuff. I already have the corsair battleforce and an extra box of voidreavers, but I'm considering getting the combat patrol just for the bits.
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>TQ
Not the biggest boss, but still a bigboss
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>>98317944
>What are the biggest offenders right now?
Wargear costs right now look like a bad joke since they use them in one or two units in each faction, fixing absolutely nothing. Morale still sucks. Should at least force snap shots and prevent charges. Vehicles need the Armageddon damage table. Almost every faction needs way more 1DP detachments to make the system work. Combis need to be split for every faction, not just orks. Wrecks need to come back. Crusade needs to come back. Warlord traits and relics need to come back. Literally just put them next to the faction rules.
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>>98317970
>>98317958
That's not brush control issue that's a retard using either way too much paint or a brush way too big.
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>>98317937
Hot as fuck. I'm surprised that /tg/ has slept so hard on un-brainwashed GSC pussy.
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>>98317960
>pull out my old highschool yearbook
>black lion of ultramar is there
what the fuck??
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>>98317937
Cringe. No commitment.
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>>98318010
He's always been there. He's in your walls.
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>>98317986
Just play 4th at that point. You could add the fixes you like to it. It is a very flexible system.
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>>98317968
Usually it goes like this
>sculptor is tasked with making sculpts for a range
>sculptor makes multiple potential sculpts/bits for said range
>more than gw actually asked for, so they can just pick the best ones to actually produce or include in the sprues
>sometimes gw likes some of the extra sculpts enough to slide extra budget in the project to add that sculpt too, or turn the bits into an upgrade sprue
>sometimes the extra sculpt is used for a limited or promotional model
>when one such extra sculpt is too special in looks or too redundant with other unit options (captains, lieutenants, etc), sometimes it's just pushed forward as a special character hoping it catches more collectors than the ones who are otherwise fine with their one captain/lieutenant sculpt
so I believe this is a leftover of whatever work was done for the last ultramarine wave and was shat out now because they could and the last ultramarines sold enough to justify it
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>>98317980
>Be wagie
>Finish working unpaid overtime for Mr. Goldstein
>Finally the weekend
>timeforfun.jpg
>Stare at paint and models
>Smile as I realize I only need to agonize for another 147 hours of painting, ruining many models in the process, to find the fun
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>>98318013
female regret is sexy as all hell because it's so rare
>anon... i was wrong
if that doesn't make you nut instantly, you gay as fuck
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>>98318029
>jews are the reason why I can't enjoy the process of developing an artistic skill
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>Sanguinius is The Guy(tm), mogs all other primarchs into oblivion
>will never be in 40k because he jobbed to Horus
so what's the point of playing blood angels if I can't even have an ebin primarch
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>>98318030
female regret is plenty common, don't mistake it for female guilt
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>>98318034
>The Guy(tm)
>mogs
>jobbed
>ebin
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>>98318034
>he jobbed
turn off the loretubers, anon
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>>98318033
The point of that was I don't have time to spend my precious few hours I have to myself stressing the fuck out over the same damn sleeve cowl I can't get right for the fourth time
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>>98318046
This might not be the hobby for you
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>>98318046
then stop stressing about imperfections, or wageslave more to pay for prepainted, or git gud
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>>98318045
did he not job?
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>>98318033
Yes.
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>>98318034
for 30 years no one had any expectation of getting to play with a primarch
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>>98318018
I do play 4th. I'd like 11th to be better.
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>>98318033
Once you put it like that, what he's saying makes a lot more sense.
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>>98318068
30 years ago we didn't have Ultramarines, Dark Angels, World Eaters, Emperor's Children, Death Guard, and Thousand Sons all with primarchs, with the remaining living primarchs almost certain to get a mini.
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>>98318030
Nope women do dumb stupid shit and then cry about it afterwards all the time, its the standard behavior of any basic bitch. Women doing shit knowing of and accepting the consequences is the actual rare behavior.
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>>98318068
but I've been playing with Alpharius for 20 years
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>>98318086
>>98318038
yeah, guilt is what i was looking for

srsly tho, imagine a bald-headed femagus begging you to get her offworld before the ripper swarms drop
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>>98318069
You can't. Let it go already. You can't unspoil rotten meat
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>>98318033
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>>98318033
I mean sure.
First you have the current work week system which treats off time as a rest rather than free time, which in itself is also not sufficient to truly restore yourself.
Then second if you believe this very work week system and the exploitation of people stems from the jews, then it'd be a fair conclusion.

Me I know that it's not about them when there are narcissistic parasites of all walks of life and I do not care about a potential over representation of that type of people from some fucking ancient desert tribe.

GW, for instance, is to my knowledge some good ol' british born exploitation, no need to bring anyone else in it.
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>>98318029
there is no ruined model.
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>>98318052
I like the actual game. I like the lore. I don't mind assembling. I like kitbashing. Painting is the ONLY thing I dislike about it.
>>98318054
>just stop caring your models look like shit
lol, post your worst models
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>>98317937
The final scene would be so cool in an animation or film.
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>>98318105
this is hyperbole, of course heat has ruined models, and if you paint with something that can only be dissolved in a solution that eats plastic then yes, yes there are ruined models, but anything done with basic gw paints can't be ruined, at worst a thick paint job can be stripped.
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>>98317913
>>98317937
Shattering the brainwashing of a cultist during childbirth would be a dramatic peak.
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>>98318094
Nope, gay. I prefer defiance.
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>>98318046
Sounds like you're hoping to eventually enjoy having well painted miniatures, instead of simply enjoying painting itself. A fool's hope, partially because of all the crap you have to not enjoy pushing through to get there, but also because even if you by some miracle did git gud then the actual process of painting would still be there with its big, fat rase between you and those pretty miniatures.
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>>98318135
both are good, as long as she's bald, sassy, and has fat tits
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>>98318046
you just need to accept that every model you paint doesn't need to be golden-demon worthy. I do the same thing - agonize over the end result, planning elaborate bases for all my dudes, etc.

Just remember that every model you paint makes you that much better than before.
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>>98318043
>>98318045
>>98318058
>job

What is this new zoomer slang and why do I keep seeing it?
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>>98317937
This is ass, Day of Ascension's ending is significantly better than this.
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>>98317651
the big boss having a normal boy head is very disturbing. what did you or plan to do with the actual heads?
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>>98318168
That phrase is older than you anon.
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>>98318181
Nah, fuck you. A chromedome cueball maga with fat tits getting mindbroken by the reality of Tyranid invasion is infinitely better.
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>>98318033
This but unironically.
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>>98318033
remove the meme arrow

jews are the reason why I can't enjoy the process of developing an artistic skill
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This is a very specific and odd query and I expect to not find anything to satisfy it, but here goes. I'm interested in converting some Poxwalkers into additional Gellerpox Mutants because I prefer the look of the latter, but I need to find some way to either buy or make more of their skull masks. I need to find some kind of kit that has stylized/slightly oversized skull or skull-like masks to add some techy bits to. Anyone know of anything like that? Necron heads and bits from the Citadel Skulls kit won't work; they're too small, I checked.
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>>98318242
forgot to add a picture of them ffs
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>>98317628
>Cadian back plugs
https://catbox(dot)to/dICt6k8ETcWqV53/file

Here you go anon, I'm also using tiny legend bits to convert cadians
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>>98318196
Fuck you leatherman, the reality of Tyranid invasion being beautiful is 1000000000 times more interesting than OMG WHAT HAVE I DONE. Do you even praise the Patriarch
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>>98318196
>boys, rape this nigga
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>>98318243
Necron heads and spiky bits.
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>>98318300
>eyes on helmets
I hate this guy
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>>98318196
>Cletus. Bubba. Rip his arms off.
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>>98318095
That's a really bad analogy because lots of food requires being "rotten" first.
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>>98318273
you can have both, and GW has depicted both. your autistic desire to reduce the setting to the ONE CANON THING (TM) is subhuman, pathetic and miserable.
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James... please...
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Can I take the leftover weapon arms from the CSM Havocs kit and use them on regular legionary bodies, or is there some kind of fitting issue that prevents this?
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>>98317298
There's also legitimately autistic guard players who want the entire model line to have equal representation of every regiment like Astra Militarum was it's own wargame with 10,000 models.
They need to grow up and just play historical wargames, but that requires a degree of hobbying they lack, hence why they whine and cry for models to be allocated to their favorite regiment..
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>>98318321
They were designed to be compatible
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>>98318324
Sweet
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>>98318322
But they did have that for the popular regiments that still get featured in every codex to this day.
They could do it in metal with less staff but can't now?
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>>98318168
its like when vegeta poses himself as this super badass warrior despite losing in nearly every fight he’s ever been in, and KNEELS before his superior opponent all the time (this kneeling happens a lot because there are a lot of people who are superior to him). People are using it more often now because it describes a specific scenario in one word, and because it sounds funny.
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>>98318328
metal production is infinitely cheaper so it's easier to sell to your investors a model range that doesn't sell at all
a single 2 part plastic mold costs more than the molds for an entire metal range
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>>98317456
You don't like the goofy goober lord?
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>>98318168
That phrase is from the 80s WWF era and has been used in everything from sentai shows to anime to real sports, retard
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What if Magus had good rules
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>>98318322
The problem is that GW got rid of the generic infantry squad and forced guardsmen players into the Three Canon Regiments™
"Oh but you can run Steel Legion as Kriegsmen". Sure, I can run fucking Howling Banshees as Kriegsmen too by that logic, doesn't mean I wanna play fucking Kriegsmen.
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>>98318336
And they'll pay themselves off after selling the launch set. Oh no poor Mr Shekelstein, what about his 90th yacht?!
Piss off, fag.
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>>98318320
No.
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>>98318349
krieg was a flop, steel legion will be a flop too
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>>98318328
Well they don't want to make any new pewter, lead, or resin minis. The Vostroyans they had for sale recently were just them using the old molds one last time, since their future plastic ones are probably a decade away.
But Guard players are just going to have to wait their turn. Eventually the HIPS range for every faction will continue to grow, but they gotta wait. They can't just look at all the Cadian and Krieg models and go "those don't count, I need 5 new Steel Legion models now."
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Some of you unironically suffer from old good new bad syndrome. Primaris have better proportions than old marines and the models look better as a result. The new aspect warriors are better too. Every model update is just applying more sensible proportions and finer detail, which are improvements. You guys look silly when you start saying shit like "but the kneepad has a flange!!!". Nobody cares, the models overall are a vast improvement.
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>>98318358
That's the problem; those models fucking don't count if you don't play those regiments. It's why they didn't make the Snakebite models into Snakebites, they called them Snaggas and made some shit up where everyone could use them.
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>>98318373
>if you don't play those regiments
Well that's a you problem. I'm sorry. Guard isn't it's own war game with 100 regiments as factions. Make your own models, which you don't want to do, or get over it.
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>>98318359
retard
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>>98318359
where do you think you are man, pedantic bad faith arguing is what 4chan is for.
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>>98318373
You can play mixed regiments, or use those kits to make your regiment's own "trench specialists" or whatever the same exact way an ork army can be made of units from multiple klans or one klan that also happens to have its own "beast hunter" specialists.

You're not autistic for not being able to do this, you're just dumb.
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Glory to Ultramar!
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>>98318373
You're describing a non-issue
marinefags are able to proxy their special commanders as calgar or roboute or their models as chapter unique squads
why do you think guardfags need special treatment?
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>>98318358
>>98318373
I'll append this: the Cadians are the "standard pattern", so they're a lot more applicable than Kriegsmen; I don't think anybody is seriously asking for a Jopall or Kauravan kit when those are simple paintjobs, but telling you to use Krieg rules to represent Savlar or Tallarn is dumb as hell.
>>98318378
>That's a you problem
I guess. I don't think many people want to run three different regiments in the same army. You don't see a lot of Marine players running three different chapters, you don't see a 2k list composed of Biel-Tan, Iyanden, and Aliatoc. You don't see a Behemoth, Leviathan, and Kraken mashup list. People want to stick to a color scheme or a unifying theme for their army. They might have a Krieg list and a Catachan list, but forcing someone who likes the spacenam aesthetic to buy the trench warfare guys and calling them ungrateful if they say that doesn't appeal to them is just bullheaded.
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>>98317479
fuck that was good
i gotta remember it for later
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>>98318345
Sustained 1?
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>>98318350
Why must you torment me so, James...
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>>98318359
>only thing that makes the new models better are basic advancements in technology
grim. reminds me of how in video games the graphics get updated significantly, but are mogged by games made in 2007.
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>>98318359
thankfully most people know this already. it's really just a couple retards, like the one that lashed out at you for saying it. everyone I know is happy with the improvements and gw's annual revenue reports reflect this as well.
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what factions will get me the most tranny asspussy
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>>98318359
>Every model update is just applying more sensible proportions and finer detail, which are improvements.
Sure.
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>>98318438
>anecdotal bias
Fag
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>>98318439
>tranny asspussy
you're just a fag, anon
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>>98318442
erm, but have you seen the models made 20 years ago though?
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>>98318439
Chaos Knights
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Man CSM looks like a good faction to play, how does one start collecting it? Combat Patrol?
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>>98318449
Yeah.
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>>98318438
the same guy who just said you're using an anecdote when you literally listed a second thing that is specifically not an anecdote. yeah, he's a regular dumbass around here and shows it off every time he posts. most people ignore him.
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>>98318452
Both the Combat Patrol and Battleforce are good options if you're just starting out. Does a certain niche or flavor of them stand out to you in particular, or is it just a general interest?
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If you have a friend that says "I'd like to learn about 40k but I'm not sure where to start" where would you point them?

Horus Heresy books? Codexes? Youtubes?
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>>98318457
Are we pretending that GW's current financial success is exclusively because they removed boltguns from the faction? Are we for real?
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>>98318452
Shadow someone, or ideally multiple people who play the faction. Get a taste before you lock in.
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>>98318439
death guard painting with sex conversion surgery videos playing in the background to get into the nurgle mindset
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>>98318346
It doesn't help that the Steel Legion is "the vehicle army that does vehicle things", and of the regiments in the rulebook, the only one whose rules don't specifically encourage a completely different playstyle are the Cadians, and even their abilities aren't a great fit. If you run Kriegers as SL, they won't feel like SL at all, and if you run Kriegers with Cadian rules to try and do SL, well now things are getting complicated just to play a subfaction that used to be one of the main ones. Frankly they could release a single SL infantry kit that comes with extra heads to stick on Krieg's other models and it'd let the regiment get back in the game without becoming a whole new range.
But the big thing is that I don't play IG, I play SoB, and that roster has a lot of holes RIGHT NOW, so as cool as it would be to get dedicated mechanized infantry for the IG and it might even convince me to get a few guard units, it's not the thing I want the most.
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>>98318465
I would say read the core book but they removed that one too.
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>>98318468
>they removed boltguns from the faction
This never happened.
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>>98318479
Excuse me, they are now exclusively for scouts and no one else.
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>>98318481
Phobos.
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>>98318465
unironically the 1d6 wiki
it covers basically every facet of wh40k through the years but a lot of pages haven't really been updated since ~2024-2025 when 1d4 shut down
the only thing that's really missing is the bog standard "how to play 40k" core rules but there are probably videos he can watch to understand more about that
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>>98318486
Show me a phobos datasheet that says they can carry a boltgun.
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>>98318345
>>98318416
Nah make it a second source of crossfire so the army is not joined at the hip to 3 ridgerunners.
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>>98318491
You’ll have to forgive him, he’s the village idiot who always pretends he’s the authority around here. He’s gonna be insufferable for the next hour if he doesn’t just give up now.
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Can Junith Eruita join a squad and hop in a rhino? I'm looking for the special rule that states whether or not a "mounted" and/or a "fly" unit can or cannot embark in a transport. It makes intuitive sense that a mounted model can NOT embark in a transport, but I looked at the book and didn't see a yes or a no, I must have missed it.
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>>98318465
>Horus Heresy books?
Friends don't advise friends to hurt themselves.
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>>98318501
>>98318457
I’m not sure who to believe is the village idiot here.
I’m going to need either one of you to post models so I know who to trust.
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>>98318465
>where would you point them?
pirate the rulebook and codex and read them, ideally an older edition with cooler artwork and denser fluff, like 5th

supplement stuff with lexicanum
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>>98318476
To me the baffling decision is the fact that there's no generic infantry squad to at least slot yourdudes into. A miracle "solution" is to make a datasheet for every glup shitto regiment, which isn't feasible and only retards think anyone is asking for that. The next best solution is to just take the regiment markers off the existing squads. Do Shock Troops, Veteran Guardsmen, and Jungle Fighters/Recon Troops or something. That's fine. I personally would trade all three regiment datasheets to just go back to a generic infantry datasheet like every single other fucking army. No other army does what they did to Guard because it's fucking retarded. They don't make Salamanders play Death Company, they don't make Deathskulls play Skarboyz. They didn't squat Legionaries when Red Corsair Raiders came out. It's fucking stupid
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>>98318503
The rule is that Rhinos can carry up to 12 Adepta Sororitas "Infantry" units that are not "Jump Pack" or "The Triumph of Saint Catherine". As Junith Eruita is not an "Infantry" model, she can't go in.

>>98318535
Yeah, that's the real good idea here, but we've got a few years yet before GW can admit they fucked up without it being embarrassing, so for now it's either "new SL models" or "nothing lmao".
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Working on some MANZ reposes just for fun.

If I actually want to start collecting orks are they any good?
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>>98318322
>who want the entire model line to have equal representation of every regiment like Astra Militarum was it's own wargame with 10,000 models
They literally just want GW to update all the Regiments that already had models in the past, that is not remotely too much to ask. If they could handle doing it in the fucking 90s when they had 10,000x less money than they do now, they can do it in modern day as gigabillionaires.
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>>98318557
>that is not remotely too much to ask.
Yes, it is.
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>>98318560
You should probably finish reading the entire post before replying so you don't look like such an idiot.
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>>98318565
I read it, it's pointless, the old models were in metal, metal moulds cost significantly less.
Guards aren't space marines, they don't justify this treatment, you won't get shit.
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>>98318557
They didn't do it with CNC stainless steel high pressure plastic molds though. You understand the difference between what they're doing now and Metal or Finecast, right?
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imperial guard and space marines need more refreshes
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Holy shit Cyclone Missile Launchers are annoying to assemble.
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>>98318576
>>98318575
>hurr durr but they were metal
And they were also dirt cheap for the customer, and GW didn't have even a fraction of the distribution capability and marketing they have now, they fucking put out garbage like Warhammer Underworlds and shit nowadays and you think they cannot make a handful of additional units for their main flagship fucking game that sells ten thousand times more?
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>>98318581
you are going to eat your ultramarines and you are gonna like it
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>>98318593
Anon just wants the giant company where every decision has to filter through 10 layers of management to just do shit
Its cheap!
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>>98318593
guard doesn't sell
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>>98318604
Somehow they managed it when they had significantly less money. I don't care about excuses from gigabillionaire corpos.
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>>98318452
It is NOT in a good spot for collecting right now, all the boxes are trash and you're going to want to go piecemeal.
The boxes are trying to sell you a ton of legionaries, which have had their place in the army eroded by Red Corsair Raiders and Chaos Bikes (but you don't want to buy these now they have a refresh coming with their 11th codex most likely.)
Next some of the boxes have 40k Chaos Rhinos, but they are absolute fucking ass, and you're going to want to get the Horus Heresy Deimos Pattern ones, they look way better.
The backbone of your infantry is going to be made up of Chosen, which none of the boxes have more than 5 of, and you're going to want 15 at a minimum. Most people (including me,) run Huron and the MoM's, with 5 chosen, and then either Abaddon or Fabius Bile with another 10 Chosen and a Master of Executions. Both of these infantry blocks can then fit into Rhinos for zipping up the field.
Havocs are a meme, and you're better off taking non-infantry shooting, like forgefiends, or Defilers... speaking of, Defilers have been MIA since they're release, so unless you're going to get a resin recast or something, good luck.
Murderwing is goated, get a box of Murderwing. I think a unit of 5 raptors with a Jump Lord is auto include in every list. You can magnetize them if you have interest in playing Kill Team in the future, so you can build them however, but for 40k, you're going to want 2 heavy weapons, 2 plas pistols, and then heavy+plas on the sergeant.
Now I shittalked Legionaries, but you can still absolutely play them, I'd run them as 5 man MSU's, so you maximize powerfists and get 2 lascannons, with a Corsair Reave Captain and a Master of Executions, but I wouldn't do more than 2, and that coincidentally is what's included in one box of Legionaries, oh and the Legionary box doesn't have lascannons despite them having them on their sheet, so you're going to want to get a Horus Heresy heavy weapons (the lascannon one,) sprue.
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>>98318448
Trannies are women, anon. Perhaps you are the real fag because you don't like women?
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Why are guardfags still so assblasted about steel legion? GW already said they’re doing an updated steel legion range…
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>>98318593
Metal models felt really expensive back in the day. Was fun browsing through the old catalogues but then you'd work out how much a couple of units of tallarn raiders would actually cost and go back to plastic sets. Pre-ebay era was tough.
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>>98318628
There's a reason why guardfags are considered the second whiniest after eldarfags
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What is it about Eldar that generates so much seethe?
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>>98318628
They didn't do it until we bullied them into it after they went back to ARMAGEDDON and released NEW YARRICK without new Armageddon Steel Legion. How retarded can they possibly be?

It's like saying "12th edition starter set will be on planet Catachan and we're releasing a new model for Sly Marbo! Huh? New Catachan infantry box? Lol no we're actually squatting them, just paint your Cadians jungle green."
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>>98318627
Nah, they're unironically caricatures of women and fucking one makes you gay no matter how much you cope
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>>98318625
Brother small company means less employees less management less overhead
These gigabillionaire corpos arent even offering you an excuse, they dont give a fuck about you lol
Every decision they make is filtered through 10 layers of management so every decision is going to be safe and it probably wont align with your nostalgic vision of what GW should be
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>>98318452
And to add to >>98318626
The freaky shit. You're going to want 10 possessed, they are really crazy in detachments with Infantry bonuses like Huron's Marauders or Creations of Bile.
As well, you'll want at least one AC/DC brick, don't use it in Creations of Bile since they're damned units and won't get any of the detachment abilities, but that's one Dark Commune box, and two Accursed Cultist boxes. They basically work as a big escort for your 6 torments who do the bulk of the work. You move them up the field and on your go turn, you activate the Dark Commune's ability to give the unit advance and charge with +1 hit +1 wound.
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>>98318626
Hell yea I like night lords anyway
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>>98318641
it's not like that at all because krieg is already there, there's nothing like catachans
you and your joke faction do not matter
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>>98318641
>company doesnt do thing
>I HATE YOU!
>company says ok ok and does thing
>I STILL HATE YOUUU AHHHHHH
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>what the fuck gw gib refresh
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT
you wouldn’t buy the new models even if they were everything you dreamed of because you are a manchild living 30 years in the past and nothing will ever live up to your rose tinted view of the shitty toy soldiers you had as a kid
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>>98318628
guardfags whine for new models none stop just so they can not buy any of them and bring the same leman russ + cadian troop list to the local for the 159th time
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>>98318659
What possesses you delusional retards to make claims like this with no proof
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>>98318666
>ummmm LE SOURCE!?
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>>98318642
>tranny hands typed this post
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>>98318670
I’d like a source for your models, please.
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>>98318670
I accept your concession
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>>98318677
and i’d like a million freakin bucks bud!
but it ain’t happenin!
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Had a game of Orks vs World Eaters last Thursday. First game of 11th, and I brought a list I dubbed "Dakkatide" for it being green tide + more dakka. I chose Take & Hold as my dispo as my blobs of Boyz would be very hard to shift once I locked down on the objectives, especially while being backed up with my lootas, breakas, and tankbustas.
I got first turn and moved up as best I could. It was important to get close but not too close, as I knew WE are also rather melee happy and I had to stage for a good turn 2. WE were running a rather elite/transport heavy list with most of their options shoved into rhinos or land raiders and 2 units of terminators in reserve. We pretty much had a mirrored turn 1 with just movement and minimal shooting occurring.
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>>98318688
As expected, our turn 2 was a slaughterhouse. My tankbustas rolled extremely hot thanks to their blue paint and popped his forgefiend (the saturnine dread in the previous pic) in a single shooting activation. I shot his rhino as well so a unit of his infantry jumped out to surge into the tankbustas in retaliation, but that opened up that unit to a big charge from my best Boyz unit (which also included my brand new warboss mini).
Across the board I tagged another rhino in melee and Boyz being Boyz it took them 3 turns to finally take it down while it dropped its payload to help in the melee that would happen at the middle of the board.
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>>98318638
They're a very well treated faction that still has a legitimate grievance with GW and that triggers Marine players who have a very well treated faction with no legitimate grievances with GW.
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>>98318656
Yes actually. The fact that the company even had that as a possibility of the decisionmaking process deserves derision and you being a faggot shill about it deserves contempt.
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>>98318709
Hate away dude nobody gives a fuck lol ur gay
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>>98318701
His turn 2 was dedicated to trying to destroy the Boyz on the center objective. He took most of his units out of their transports and shoved them towards the middle, and successfully destroyed another of my best Boyz units by isolating the painboy with precision, allowing him to sweep the rest of the unit with ease.
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>>98318713
YOUR GAY
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>>98318681
you make me sad
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>>98318714
After the big loss of the second Warboss+painboy unit in the center battle, my lootas were finally able to position themselves so that they could open fire on the units that had placed themselves in their like of sight and on objectives. I used the strats I had available to do 0 damager to his demon price with unit, and completely annihilate a unit of eightbound with their character that I forgot the name of.
Elsewhere on the board my first Warboss+painboy unit was spending their time wiping out the think that dumped infantry on the tankbustas unit and securing the objective it was on for themselves. Rather successfully, I might add.
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I primed a Broadside today :)
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>>98318649
If you wanna go Night Lords then make sure to supplement your army with MkIV Assault Squads from Horus Heresy. They come 10 to a box for slightly more than 5 in 40k. Keep in mind every time you buy Murderwing, it comes with another Chaos Lord with Jump Pack, you can't use more than 3 of those.
Also, haven't seen a lot of people talking about it, but if you were to play the current Night Lord 2DP detachment, with the 1DP detachment that came out with the faction pack. You can take two different enhancements that let Jump Lords lead units of Warp Talons. So you could run 2x10 Warp Talons with Chaos Lords attached. Also Nightmare Hunt's detachment rules are based on a broad "Heretic Astartes," units wording, so they all apply to Winged Daemon Princes too.
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Is there ever actually a bad time to start collecting Space Marines?
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>>98318638
It's not the Eldar, it's eldar players
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>>98318727
nice ultramarines dude
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>>98318738
all the time
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>>98318727
On his turn 3 he dropped his terminator units onto the battlefield behind my front lines, aiming to take out the units I had left most vulnerable; my lootas and home field gretchin. Fortunately for me, one of the units failed to charge the lootas they were close to and simply ate overwatch fire instead. My gretchin were turned to mist, however, and it was up to the Boyz I had left to guard my home field to clean up the mess.
In the middle, his demon price and karne the betrayer were still sweeping out the remaining Boyz that had managed to live through their melees, though they were few in number.
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>>98318321
NO
YOU CANNOT
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>>98318751
After a really rough turn 2 and 3 for the WE, it was pretty clear the Orks would be taking this victory. There were still far too many Boyz on the field to remove my control over all the objectives (and keep in mind, I still had a truck and a battlewagon getting me objective scoring and stealing his home objective while my Boyz kept his main units busy).
It was finally time to get my new warboss back in the fight, and his new quarry would be the demon price himself. He turned his ass around after demolishing the rhino the previous round and made a huge 10" charge into the demon price with an undamaged unit of Boyz and a painboy backing him up. It was no contest, and the demon price fell to the mighty green menace.
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>>98318701
>his forgefiend (the saturnine dread in the previous pic)
Why do you play against cheaters?
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So is playing eldar fucking tedious or something? The models look friggin sweet but every time I look up "how they play" it sounds like some league of legends moba bullshit where you have to micro mtg card "gotcha!" abilities
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>>98318766
Turn 4 was equally as rough for the WEs, as karne had failed a critical charge to assist his terminators in taking my home objective away, and despite my lootas being destroyed they managed to battle shock the other unit of terminators, not getting him any scoring on their objective that they had fallen to protect.
We ended with the Warboss fighting the land raider (which had killed both my breaka Boyz and tankbustas in overwatch) but failing to take it down.
We ended the game 91-55 in favor of the Orks.

Overall the dakkatide list was very strong, but I give this victory to my blue paint job landing me some excellent turns of hot rolls.
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>>98318581
Can't wait for the full Ultramar Auxilia range
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>>98318779
This doesn't seem right. You can see the size of the dread in pic rel and seeing both that dread and a forgefiend they seemed rather close in size.
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>>98318491
They use boltguns.
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>>98318779
Me when I'm retarded
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>>98318789
this but unironically
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>>98318738
Nope, always in stock, models always only a few years old, actually good combat patrols. I started stacking a Black Templars army I'm gradually working on, and i was surprised at how well just buying 2 combat patrols goes.
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>>98318688
>the greytide
did the WE player put a wash on the the unpainted models? it seems like it's already shaded.
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>>98318800
The dread isn't so bad, but that fucking Terminator is hideous. It's Votannshit being called Terminator armor and I hate it.
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>>98317756
Why are you being mean? We could play together if you want
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Tips for painting a Broadside like picrel? How do you even freehand the little line designs? I’m gonna have to do all of those things for Farsight too, fuuuuuck
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>>98318273
i immediately nutted to your attached pic when i saw her bare pate
do what you must, i have already won
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>>98318866
masking tape
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>>98318866
If it involves straight lines masking tape is your friend. GSW does a line from 1mm thickness.
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Bolt rifles are for fags.
Tacticus armour is for fags.
Phobos armour is for turbo fags.
Gravis armour is kinda faggy, too.
Especially 8th (GAYth edition) Gravis.
Your vehicles don't use treads? Gay fag.
Redemptor dreadnoughts are homosexual.
No special/heavy weapons in squad? Faggot.
Repulsors are for queers with extra faggoty taste.
Suppressors so gay they don't even sell them anymore.

It's very simple GW, we bought Leviathan because of the Terminators. We didn't buy Armageddon because it's all primaritrannies.

Just remember this simple rhyme - !
Only Primaris in the box? Better sell off your Games Workshop stocks!
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>>98318781
>some league of legends moba bullshit where you have to micro mtg card "gotcha!" abilities
That's all of 40k in 10th-11th
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I think primaris are kewl
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>>98318917
AAAAH ANON WATCH OUT, IT WILL STING YOU
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>>98318913
Primaris literally saved the company.
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>>98318924
this is why i hate primaris
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All factions in Warhammer 40K are stupid except Tyranids. They're the only ones whose actions make sense for their motives.
>Guard: The first 14 frontal assaults failed? Launch another frontal assault
>Space Marines: I worship a book from 10K years ago
>Sisters: I am literally immune to logic-based arguments
>Admech: The washing machine came unplugged? I'll need 2 weeks and 1400 candles to fix this
>Custodes: It costs as much to make me as to train 10 million soldiers, and I'm less useful than 10 million soldiers
>Knights: I'm just Don Quixote
>CSM: I'm angry about daddy issues from 10K years ago
>Daemons: We literally have no motive, we're just evil
>Eldar: Just got back from lying to humans. Why do they never trust us?
>Dark Eldar: 99% of us get eaten by Slaanesh anyway, but let's change nothing
>Exodites: Slaanesh won't attack the Amish
>Harlequins: Slaanesh can't get me if I quote Shakespeare
>GSC: Everything will be great once the space monsters arrive
>Necrons: Let's sleep for 65 million years so our enemies can build up empires, then attack them
>Votann: We invented computer gods, but not a way to add more RAM
>Orks: Strategy? Ambushes? Retreats? That's all for cowards
>Tau: Daemons aren't real. btw, gonna go sterilize more planets of humans and mind control more bug aliens
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>>98318924
No they didn't. You retards constantly try to make this claim like it was Primaris and not 8th edition.
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>>98318932
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>>98318917
show me dat thorax girl, fuckin slut
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>>98318932
>Just got back from lying to humans.
>LOOK MA I POSTED IT AGAIN
name three
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>>98318941
Yrliet
Yrliet
Yrliet
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>>98318946
Are you STILL upset about that whole Commoragh thing? It was only a little dismemberment.
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>>98318830
Not exactly greytide, more "white airbrush basecoat" tide since some of his forces he'll be painting with hesery colors as seen on the terminators here >>98318751
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>>98318932
>Faction: shit, we just got BTFO by a rival faction that fetishizes yinglets, wat do?
>Yinglet Posters: lmao, send more money to Gee-Dubs! Bitch nigga.
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>>98318465
Give them a crash course on all the factions and touch up a bit on their history. Then tell them to pick a faction they like the sound of and give them a couple books for them to read about. I know HH is the prequel setting but I honestly think it's a terrible way to start learning about 40k initially.
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Anyone got any dark angels that don't suck?
99% of them are painted way too dark and desaturated and they look bad.
Obviously all the 1st company bone armor ones look sick, but how about regular dark green ones that are vibrant and interesting?

Pic unrelated
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>>98318977
sex
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>nobody cares heh
Doesn’t even deserve a (You)
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>>98318986
I'm going to give him/her a (you) just to spite you, you wicked, wicked beast.
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>>98318932
You’re correct about all of these except for Harlequins and Drukhari. Those methods read like they’re retarded but are actually working out for them. Also Orks “always winning” is a bit overblown because only an insane Eldar makes that observation and lots of Orks die screaming and squealing in terror despite having lured their opponents in with cowardly tactics for a so called scrap.
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>>98318932
>>Votann: We invented computer gods, but not a way to add more RAM
very reasonable and relevant struggle
RAM expensive dawg
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>>98318917
>WAZZZZZBINATORRRRRR~
I love it
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>>98319008
Oh wait that’s what he’s referring to with that scheme? That’s pretty cool actually.
>>98318917
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>retarded normies remind you again that they love the shit they made specifically for retarded normies
Aight, okay.
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>>98319022
Nothing more pathetic that a guy who makes hating popular things his entire personality.
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>>98319008
>>98319018
No idea just thought a Hornet scheme would look cool.
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>>98318999
I thought that once you can't pay a homunculus to revive you, you just get eaten by Slaanesh anyway, so everyone but the upper crust is just fucked in the end.
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>>98319026
Except maybe a guy who makes hating popular old things his entire personality, I suppose.

No, you do not deserve more than a no u.
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>>98318924
and yet you don’t own a single model to show your appreciation. curious!
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>>98318593
yes, they cannot make the multiple dozens of handfuls of redundant kits for the guard
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>>98318977
It's a dark color scheme. To some extent you are just going to have to deal with it. Or paint them as a """"""different chapter"""""""", which is half of the reason for the whole "secretly a legion" gimmick in the first place.

Picrel is as bright as I'd go.
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>>98318924
It did not, actually. Getting rid of Kirby, on the other hand, possibly helped.
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>>98318645
ntab
>it's gonna be shit lol get owned
Did you just tell on yourself?
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>>98318932
>Thousand Sons: The Emperor fucked us over so now we're gonna tear down everything he built
Best faction, best motivation
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>>98319029
Anon I’m gonna sound like an asshole for saying this but so long as they gain more population than they lose and their leadership remains stable enough to continue as leadership for the foreseeable future then they’re doing fairly well when compared to other factions. Like Vect alone having an extremely firm grip on his position this far in means the Drukhari are going to persist long after factions like the Imperium and the Tau die off
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>>98318932
This issue with Admech is their lore has been completely overridden by their connection to the Necrons and they’re the only army who’s beliefs are objectively false.
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>>98319052
that counts as daddy issues from 1000 years ago anon
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>>98319074
>they’re the only army who’s beliefs are objectively false.
Wrong, the machine god is real. Also, yknow, Genestealers...
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>>98319018
Waspinator from ye olde Beast Wars cartoon.
even if it's just a coincidence, it's made me look at this entire edition to the tau in a new light.
it's not the model's fault the default scheme is aggressively awful.
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>>98319094
meant to quote >>98319027
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>>98319094
>default scheme is bad
Why does this happen so often?
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>>98319084
The machine god has all but confirmed outright as being a C’tan. And Genestealers are deluded about the end result but the Tyranids are very real
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>>98319052
>HOW DARE YOU SKYPE CALL ME DURING MY VERY IMPORTANT EXPERIMENT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Rain World does this story beat better.
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>>98319100
you should read admech lore
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>>98319060
That makes perfect sense for Vect and their leadership, but for the average nobody, if you've got a 99% chance of getting Slaaneshed anyway, then it makes way more sense to jump ship to another Eldar faction.
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>>98319100
The ones who seem to get the rawest deal are the Ymgarl Genestealers
>what's that? squid face? FUCK OUTTA HERE, GO FUCK OFF INTO SPACE, YOU'RE NOT EVEN GETTING ASSIMILATED, I DON'T WANT NONE OF YOUR SHIT
and then most of them die on the way to another planet in the cold vacuum of space.
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>>98319108
Somehow Malstrains in Necromunda got the better deal because the hive mind doesn’t even want to think about using them
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>>98319105
I actually agree with you, but even for the people who choose to remain in Commoragh, they’re doing better than they have any right to. They’ve taken a seemingly nonsensical position and made it work in a way I can’t say the same for most other factions.
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>>98317117
>Guard get a single taste of what Eldar got this edition
>Immediatrly start crying
this is super funny
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>>98319105
Generally, if you are enough of a pleb that life in Comorragh sucks, you are probably a vat born slave or something and unable to switch teams even if you wanted to.

And you may not even want to switch teams. Going from being a torture heroin (and real heroin) junkie to a stoic craftworlder is not exactly easy. Harlequins don't exactly accept applications and I doubt Exodites are all that welcoming either.
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>>98319105
Drukhari are all temporarily embarassed Archons. Who cares if life for the plebs is bad? They'll be top dog soon
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>5 terminators assembled
>5 guys was 4 sprues

What the fuck
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>>98319150
One thing that's stayed remarkably consistent across the decades is Guard players bawling at every turn.
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>>98319169
I wonder if they've got a stock market
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are tyranid warriors with guns good? are they fun?
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>>98319183
Man this art is sick, if Eldar models actually looked even close to this I would play them
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>>98319074
>who’s beliefs are objectively false
The dragon shard under mars isn't the machine god by any serious metric, it's just a powerful being with some influence over tech. It's presence inspired the religion, but it's practical influence is negligible and the religious framework stands on its own. You could argue it's a valid candidate for the Omnissiah, which is a separate messianic emanation of the Machine God, but that would just be a heterodox bid.

Really they're one of the only factions in 40k that believe in an actual theology. As in, they worship a properly metaphysical deity, rather than worshipping some limited warp entity. Everyone else has a DnD religion where their god is basically just a guy somewhere - the admech have a religion that works like the real world religions, where their god is genuinely and wholly transcendent (any/or mythological).
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>>98319169
rat fingers typed this post
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>>98319194
yes but instead of actual stocks or industries it's all raiding companies
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>>98319100
Doesn't that mean it's real, though? More real than the FALSE EMPEROR
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How does the upgrade system work? Can you use it only once or pay the cost and give the bonuses to everything
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>>98319118
>I sense another of my pawns doing the fent lean
There's an old piece of -I think- Final Fantasy Tactics, maybe XII concept art, with a bunch of mind flayers in robes relaxing in an opium den smoking a hooka.
I can't find the image, but I basically want to run an RT campaign where instead of a GS Broodlord, it's a coven of Ymgarl Genestealers smoking ridiculous mind-altering chemicals that would kill a normal human and send a space marine to the moon, in order to cut off the hive mind and essentially run a ship-based criminal syndicate instead. Basically a rival Rogue Trader family in the form of a bunch of chain-smoking illithids wheeling and dealing across the galaxy to stay ahead of their very angry Mom.
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>>98319169
It continues to be true in all Warhammers that Dark Elves are the Americans of the setting
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>>98319074
machine spirits are real and have real benefits to weapons
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>>98319252
Upgrade just means it can go on something other than Characters.
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>>98319194
>>98319201
>The Crimson Investment, Savings and Loan sails again!!
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>>98319279
>Guaranteed TWO human slaves per share or your money back!
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>>98319272
Can they give their weapons machine spirits on the tabletop?
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>>98319282
There are some druk who can only feel alive while screaming "BUY BUY SELL SELL" and losing money.
It's just a matter of going out and stealing more money to lose.
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>>98318932
>>Votann: We invented computer gods, but not a way to add more RAM
The problem is the computer gods weren't included with instructions on how to create new RAM, as a joke by the Men of Gold
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>>98319198
Based knower and understander of lore
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>>98319252
>Upgrades: Some enhancements are tagged with ‘Upgrade'. Unlike other enhancements:

>• These can be given to non-Character units.
>• You can include up to three of the same Upgrade in your army (the second and third instances of the same Upgrade do not count towards the total number of enhancements in your army, but you must still spend the stated points cost each time).
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>>98319198
>worshipping real things makes them stronger and makes you go crazy
>beat the system by worshipping something that doesn't exist

Shit they're the smartest faction in the galaxy.
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>>98319195
they suck even with the mandatory detachment to make them suck less
slow massive base infantry are also not fun to use

melee warriors just about manage to be usable with mandatory detachment + hard carry character, but ultimate it feels like shit for this massive warrior blob to be a bunch of damage 1 attacks when they used to punch up into vehicles
raveners are also giving them tough competition for the elite infantry slot since they are the new models so GW obviously want to push them more

rough time for warriors all round
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>>98319198
their god also has a good reason for the suffering humans go through (ie, to solve the riddle of steel and ascend beyond those weaknesses through shedding of mortal flesh), which also makes him more reasonable than most real world myths' deities
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>>98319285
>do admech get cool flavourful rules on tabletop

not a fucking chance
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>>98319285
machine spirits (as in little ghost gnomes hiding in every piece of technology, NOT weird DAOT STC construct AI shit found in titans and land raiders and whatnot) aren't fucking real don't listen to that other guy
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>>98319322
Not really considering he could just fucking solve the riddle for them lol
Its the same thing with “suffering to discover meaning/purpose/faith” like why not solve that on their behalf?
theres nothing here to dissolve the epicurian paradox
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it kinda feels like warriors were useless in 7th
one of them did kill two terminators and then pin the squad via sheer luck
the carnifexes still died to the captain with teeth of terra
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>>98319360
That paradox only applies to a loving god.
The machine god favours humanity, but love does not come into the equation.
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>>98319358
of course they're real, this is a setting where rocks and swords have souls, what makes you think other things don't?
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>>98319320
Well, that's tragic. I picked a bad time to finally decide to get into nids after liking them for years (playing space marine 2 got me wanting to jump in)
What strategies do work decently for nids atm? I know it'll change, and I don't want to meta chase, but it'll suck if i buy a bunch of shit and it's terrible
My quickly hashed out list of stuff to potentially get is
>Deathleaper, hive tyrant, neurotyrant, whiplash prime, tervigon, 20 hormagaunts, 6x2 warriors, 11 neurogaunts, 6 tyrant guard, 3 zoanthropes, 3 leapers, 2 carnifexes, norn emissary, screamer killer
i really just picked what i thought looked cool
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>>98319370
Then fuck him lol the concept of “worship” becomes displaced then, its just becomes a pragmatic transaction that is foundationally nihilistic
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>>98319322
their god also has a good reason for the suffering humans go through (ie, to solve the riddle of steel and ascend beyond those weaknesses through shedding of mortal flesh).
Damn, I never thought of it, but these dudes are straight up space gnostics.
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I want a buddy cop comedy novel between Jaghatai Khan and Drastanta (shining spears phoenix lord)
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>>98319371
Rocks do not have fucking souls in 40k. What fucking crack are you smoking. The closest thing to that would be weird magical rocks from the eye of terror or psychic macguffins or some shit.

>swords

DAEMON swords
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>>98319406
that includes soulstones btw. random fucking rocks found on macragge aren't gonna have fucking souls. there are not little tech goblins living in every fucking lasgun. that would be fucking retarded and be the most literalist and autistic reading of mechanicus fluff imaginable, why the fuck would you take characters at their word when rick fucking priestley has said that it wasn't the intention and that the imperium and mechanicus are a bunch of fucking retards with backwards beliefs
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>>98319406
no, normal rocks
and no, normal swords, not demon swords, read mutilators' fluff
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>>98319376
Neurotyrant attached to zoanthropes is good no matter what you're doing.
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>>98319418
Genuinely the most autistic spiritless interpretation of this paragraph imaginable
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>>98319431
what else can you expect from 40KEKS
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>>98319418
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>>98319431
what do you think it means when it says a rock has a shadow form or its own thoughts?
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>>98319442
>>98319451
Nta but I think its a misunderstanding of the warp which isnt surprising considering GW refuses to define it in a concrete way because it lets BL writers go nuts and shit out whatever stupid dogshit they want without breaking canon
Here it describes warp potential as a “flicker of potential”
Not genuine sentience
Warp energy doesn’t need genuine sentience to mirror in order to manifest
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Latest Rick and Morty had weird shit as usual. Stay with me I promise there's as point here, and I know you aspies love it don't act like you don't.

Someone on /co/ started going off about how it was a gnostic allegory so I, not knowing what that is, look it up and wow it's a bunch of bullshit that is definitely and provably not even true. And the worst part is they named themselves the "guys who know things" like how infuriating is that?

Anyway that's also how I feel about the Mechanicus
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>>98319469
Originally the setting just had shit in it because it was cool
They just wrote shit down that sounded cool
They weren’t expecting high-functioning autistic aspergers patients to hyperanalyze it to the point where one cool-sounding sentence that had some eastern wabi-sabi spiritual shit in it to convince them that fucking rocks think in the 40k universe
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>>98319376
we did well with the detachment system, there's a lot of variety going around
despite my previous doom and gloom the warrior detachment is 1DP and is pretty good so you can pair it with whatever else
assimilation swarm heals big monster and elite blocks
synaptic nexus has great strats and psychic is our best shooting right now
vanguard is good because ever vanguard invader unit is amazing
crusher stampede is good because almost every monster we have is amazing
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>>98319484
>t. hylic perennially duped by the demiurge's veil
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>>98319492
>haha, let's have the mechanicus believe in machine spirits, that'd be whack and cool because of that metal mix of spiritualism, cooky religion and high tech that makes the mechanicus cool

some retarded fucking 40kek: "OH THAT MUST MEAN THERE'S LITTLE INVISIBLE GNOMES IN EVERY PIECE OF HUMAN TECHNOLOGY!!!"
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>>98319492
>Originally the setting just had shit in it because it was cool
Having the smartest guys also be the dumbest guys is only cool to christfags who go "haha they're just like me!"
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>>98319506
gnomes is real, anon.
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>>98319514
niggas just be sayin shit
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Collage fag, are you here? Rentry fag. With the mods (GODS) finally doing their jobs (FOR FREE) I managed to get the old rentry working. Haven't checked the thread for a few months but I would maintain it again seeing as the mutant is gone. If you have any of the collage links from the months that are missing on the archive there lmk I will update it.
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>>98319366
stone crusher carnifex my beloved...
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>>98319528
https://rentry.org/40kg-Main
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>>98319514
>our greatest minds are organized into a priesthood ruled by dogmatic stricture and ritual moreso than reason and curiousity. So much has been forgotten, never to be relearned.

Sounds metal to me, anon
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>>98319528
Not Collageanon, but it looks like you're just missing the year to date, so starting from January, a quiet money.
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>>98319544
>money
Strange Freudian slip for the month that most encouraged scratchbuilding.
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>>98319541
Yeah everything you said is badass but when you add "they believe praying to ghosts will make their refrigerator run" then it becomes stupid.
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>>98319469
GW has defined the warp just fine since the realm of chaos books and the mutilators fluff does mention full blown sentience as well.

You're just running on a simplified understanding of the setting and disregarding anything else as absurd.
Tech is tech, it's inanimate, reliable when well crafted and the admech understands it, unless it's sophisticated stuff whose knowhow has been lost thousands of years ago.
But also the metaphysical exists, and even the most seemingly harmless of things has the potential to act in a supernatural way.
The admech understands that the metaphysical exists, but it is also overzealous, and just like their actual maintenance of machines may be part practical part ritual, so is the importance they give to these specific metaphysics part justified and part excessive.

the joke is not that the admech is dumb for worshipping technology they don't understand anymore, and certainly not that they have had reasons to do so, the butt of the joke is anyone overly optimistic about mankind's relation and reliance on technology, common in traditional space operas and sci fi, by painting an equally extreme but opposite scenario and labelling it as more realistic, with irony.
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>>98319547
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>>98319549
An-non the ghosts are the ones who figured out how to get the fridges running in the first place who the fuck are they supposed to pray to?
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>>98319549
Yeah thats because you rewrote it to sound retarded on purpose lol
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>>98319552
Total Wolf Death was an optional subtheme in April under the suspicion that people might be more enthused about voting it in the poll than actually delivering, but that turned out not to be the case.
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>>98319550
im happy for you bro
or sorry to hear that
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>>98319564
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>>98319549
it's not stupid it's surreal and cool

it's like that rick priestley excerpt where he describes a servant under the emperor's palace who is part of a family whose trade is replacing lightbulbs under the palace, but at some point over the millennia that specific kind of light bulb went out of production somewhere, so the trade now consists of painting the light bulbs yellow while lighting the passageways with candles and torches, taking on a spiritual and symbolic significance rather than a practical purpose, very much an echo of mankind's degeneration over time in 40k
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>>98319506
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mohUhiX9UOE
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>>98319571
>>98319528
And with that, you should be up to date, with the recently-concluded quick and nimble/Blanchitsu of last month.
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>>98319320
Man, I miss 4th/5th edition Warriors. Eating vehicles with rending claws and deleting guardsmen with deathspitter template mayhem and instagib immunity was good times.

>>98319402
I absolutely love this concept. Let them both shine and compete through seven webway hells with the occasional dip into random other sceneries.
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>>98319492
>Originally the setting just had shit in it because it was cool
>They just wrote shit down that sounded cool
Shit randomly having souls is also cool and makes for cool stories with supernatural, and often grimdark twists.
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>>98319576
Oh, looks like the Catbox link for September has also 404'd.
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>>98319586
every little piece of technology having little gnomes running around inside of them isn't as cool as "machine spirits aren't fucking real and the things that do credibly seem to have some sort of intelligence like large war machines are just operating on ill-understood hypertech from a forgotten golden age of humanity that will never be understood again"

Read Death of Integrity, the scene where the DAOT AI says "your beliefs aren't real and humanity no longer deserves to live, you have devolved into degenerates who would make your ancestors weep" before taking remote control of every servitor in the vicinity fucks
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>>98319582
>>98319402
This is why we need a real Ally system back. Shining Spear and White Scars, Fire Dragons and Salamanders, Dire Avengers and Ultramarines, these guys would find a lot in common with each other. Lets return to the old way of having the Imperium be the protagonist and the Eldar the deuteragonist of the setting, joining forces to fight the chaos and the orks and the bugs.
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>>98319564
kek, that was such a cool collage
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>>98319571
>gue'vesa tank
This is really fucking cool
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Also whoever is doing all these eldar dudes I really like your stuff. Are these 3D prints or just classic conversions?
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>>98319380
Triggered christcuck?
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>>98319530
do they not even have legends rules in 11th?
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>>98319597
thanks Ill throw them up tonight
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>>98319604
>actually fedora tipping nihilism is better than supernatural folk horror (in space!)
I'm not surprised you recommend reading BL
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Next space marine model reveal.
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the aeronautica imperialis shorts were cool. do they make sequels to these? there was a hook at the end
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>>98319641
They're prints, from Drunk Mag0s Cellar's designs. I started putting together a small force of his Eldar just after the hack last year and it's reached a fairly respectable size, mostly through collage entries.
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>>98319688
What audience finds this prolonged joke funny? genuine question here.
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>>98319686
I bet you're the same kind of retard who complains about battlefleet gothic featuring giant ships doing age of sail tactics in space with gun crews who manually move, load and swab giant fuckoff cannons because "it's not reasonable enough :("
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>>98319705
We have to keep making the joke because the minute we stop GW will think its time to release another calgar model.
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>>98319709
Kek
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>>98319708
How much did you wanted to bet? because you lost your bet.
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>>98319708
This post makes no sense, you're accusing him of the kind of shit that sounds like it would come from you.
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>>98319528
Glad to have you back! Great to have the community page up and running again. The general truly is healing.
Thank you to the anons that brought you up to speed, not at home right now so I didn't have the pictures handy.
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>>98319564
This collage was such a blast. We should have wacky themes more often.
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>>98319709
GW gonna do it any bro
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>>98319544
>tfw completely missed this one
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>>98319705
me
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PAINT THE EYES ON ANY OF THESE THINGS THEY'RE SO GODDAMN TINY AND I HAVE BIG MEATY CLAWS
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>>98319809
get a good quality brush with a fine tip and practice
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>>98319809
carefully
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>>98319615
OK ratfag
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>>98319376
The editions come, the editions go. Paint what you like.
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>>98319833
Who the fuck is that supposed to be, schizo?
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>>98319837
don't respond to the wannabe janny
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>>98319615
For me it’s the spider dreadnought/ defiler thingy.
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>>98319837
You lmao
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does a flyrant count as heavy for the collage?
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>>98318784
Enjoyed reading, thanks for the write-up.
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>>98318688
What did your army list look like?
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Who is the vtuber that ratfag obsesses over?
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would you guys reccommend the "slap chop" method to someone who just got into miniature painting? or is that a common noob trap?
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>>98319195
They are not good, but they are extremely points efficient, especially in the warrior detachment.

20 ppm
T5 W3 4+ 5++
melee A5 S6 AP1
shoots 24" A3 S5 AP1 (plus gun upgrades)
OC2

compare 3 ranged warriors or 10 termagants for the same cost

You don't need a ton of OC for holding your home objective so maybe take the warriors so you get synapse bubble as well
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>>98319908
It is a noob trap because it doesn't teach you fundamentals. Only do it if you're not really interested in painting and just want to finish your models quickly.
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This is the second time a Warhammer box has the wrong content in the box.

I don't know how this has happened to me twice but bloody hell I don't know how to feel about it.
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>>98319918
Which one? Is this another recall situation like the Maelstrom one or just a few affected boxes with one missing sprue?
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I think I want to build Dark Angels, but do I do the main chapter or a successor?
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Bought some assault marines the other day. First reply that ends with 7 picks which loyalist I paint
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>>98319939
The gay one
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>>98319939
the gayest one
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>>98319939
minotaurs
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How are mono tzeentch demons doing in 11th?
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>>98319908
If you're not interested in modelling and just want an army to play the game with quick and easy, do it. Otherwise avoid.
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>>98319939
marines malevolent
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>>98319923
The funny shit is that it isn't a missing sprue, I only saw it happen to the maelstrom box to someone else.

First time it happened was a blood angels combat patrol, my intercessors got swapped for more infiltrators, I mean I technically would have won there if I wasn't aiming to have 20 intercessors at the time so it felt like a slap in the face that I can kinda just find it silly nowadays.

The second and most recent is Armageddon, instead of the Ork wartrakk I got a second sprue of eradicators with bolters, chaplain and banner.

I technically got more out of it but I got denied of the cool Ork bike until it's available to build separate. I don't know how to feel about it chief.
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>>98319939
White Scars
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>>98319908
Contrast spam looks better than most of the shit that gets posted here so go for it
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>>98319939
Lamentors
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>>98319974
no it doesn't
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>>98319974
most of the stuff in collages that were posted earlier looks better than slapchop, (You) tried
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>>98319985
Silence ratfag
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>>98319877
Nice that anyone enjoyed the read.
>>98319884
>110 Ork Boyz (5x20, 1x10)
>2 warbosses (1 with enhancement: ferocious show off)
>2 painboyz (1 with enhancement: raucous warcaller)
>11 grots
>20 lootas (2x10) enhancement: dead shiny shootas on both
>6 breaka Boyz
>6 tankbustas, enhancement: dead shiny shootas
>2 trukks
>1 Battlewagon
The strategy I used was to put the enhanced Warboss and regular painboy (now that you can't stack enhancements on a single unit) into the battlewagon to eviscerate a really tough opponent thanks to his increased strength. The breakas and tankbustas got the trukks, and the rest of the army footslogged it up the field. There's so many Boyz in play that even with awful positioning you won't lose them all, so just try to keep your lootas safe so that they can back up the Boyz with their firepower once the enemy fights you on objectives.
At least, that's what I tried to do with it during the game. I didn't actually think strategy, it was more of a "let's see how much shooting and how many Boyz I can fit into this list" and went from there.
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>>98319990
Which models on the collage are yours?
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>>98318975
such a beautiful view...
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>>98319993
I'm not ratfag, retard. You have no eyes if you can't see how fugly shitchop looks.
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>>98319998
I see you can fit 10 more Boyz in there.
Looks fun though.
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>>98319993
>this retard has now called TWO different people ratfag who aren't ratfag
Bro lmao
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>>98319998
>>110 Ork Boyz (5x20, 1x10)
dear god
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>>98320011
>>98320016
Calm down ratfag
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any good thread question recommendations?
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>>98319998
If my back wasn't fucked I'd be more than happy to play that list. Did you put the breaka and tankbusta squads in one trukk and 10 man of boyz in the other?
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>>98320025
what's your favorite army to fight
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>>98320007
>point out who you are so that I can harass you every time you post
nice try lmao
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>>98319939
Mentor Legion
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>>98320045
I wouldnt admit to being a nomodels anon
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>>98320014
Yeah, the choice at the end for me was either a lot of my enhancements or 10 more boyz, so I chose the enhancement route to see how I'd fare with only 10 boyz away from the cap. Surprisingly, pretty well.
>>98320019
The real horror is painting them all. It's gotta be a green tide list, not a grey tide.
But basically as soon as I saw the 10th edition codex with the detachment name "green tide" I knew I was going to be painting Boyz for a long, long time. Payed off though, I love seeing my model count triple my opponents'.
>>98320031
>Did you put the breaka and tankbusta squads in one trukk and 10 man of boyz in the other?
I'm retarded so no, I did not. I forgot that trukks carry 12 and not 10 anymore.
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>whoever voices baelz is Australian

Makes sense why ratfag is a fan
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>>98319939
Silver Skulls
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Ork bros, are we still using the 10th ed waagh rules? Not sure when we start using the updated one
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>>98320025
>body odor: a legitimate strategy?
>how many gw shops have you been banned from?
>flatties or bolt-ons?
>how do we incorporate ratpussy in 40k?
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>>98319939
Alpha Legion
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>>98320064
>that first question

It definitely is, my nose is too sensitive a d if my opponent smells like shit I can't think or do anything. It's a power move for sure
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>>98318465
dawn of war 1 or 2 for video games

Eisenhorn series for books

If they're an rpg fag who liked baldur's gate, get them to play the Rogue Trader crpg
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>>98320007
Decalfag is banned from the collage
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>>98320084
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>>98320064
thank you, and I’ll use the extras for other threads
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>>98319564
>the looted invictor
>the marine malevolent
>the titan squish
>LIMITED
>the fact that almost every modelposter contributed
this was far and away the best collage
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>>98319935
dark green is a gay color so do a successor
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>>98320062
The 11th edition rules don't hit until the codex drops next month. We've just seen previews of how it is changing.
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>>98319939
Exorcists
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>>98319939
orange and teal
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>>98319939
Salamanders
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>>98319939
>no hits
lmao
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>>98319939
Space Wolves and paint their buttholes
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>>98319939
Crimon feest
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>>98319939
Kill yourself
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>>98317181
No long gloves? No jackboots? Short coats? Cadian helmets? Tan kriegers? Lame ass bullshit.



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