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>>98320084>TQAs orks, definitely imperial guard
>TQMy opponent's unusual body odor.
Ecks dee XDXD le I like orks le ecks dee :DD
>>98320100I like or- ah, fucker beat me to it.
>>98319939>not a single 7goddamn. anyway, testing my luck to say you should paint them as minotaurs (old color scheme).
How is your favorite faction or detachment faring in 11th so far?
>shatter broodmind>acquire needy GSC gf
Orks with an S or with a Z?
This hobby would be a lot better if instead of paints you could use markers. or crayons.
>>98319939Angry Marines>>98320125You already tortured one Anon, when will your reign of terror end?
>>98320134you're S3 at best, lil bro
>>98320125zamn, red scorpions look baller here
>>98320132And perhaps the more interesting data point: How each disposition mission set is faring overall across all factions.Purge might just be the favorite of scrubs and bad players though.
>>98320084>TQAs Tau, facing WE is like speedrunning the game bc we each get to ignore one half of combat. Haven't played 11e yet so I'm interested to see what the rules changes are like.
>>98320139Chaos players would just sniff the former and eat the latter and we'd never see them again
>>98319939Alazazuns, Alakazeench, you will paint them as Thousand Sons for Tzeentch
>>98319939Emperor's Pointy Sticks >gets on a slow board
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98319939Rainbow Warriors
>>98320142a boy has a right to dream
>>98319939Blood Ravens
>>98319939Crimson Fists
>>98320187ding ding ding we got a winner. First time painting them
>>98320187DING DING DING DING DING
>>98320187booooo
>>98320142I deeply appreciate that whoever made this edit didn't include the faggot sw*rmlord
>>98320154Imagine if GW actually gave us Tzeentch daemons like this instead of the super-flanderized "LOL HERES ANOTHER BIRD" shit they've been doing for years
>>98320142Parasite of Mortrex isn't a hero btwYou can take 3 of them
>>98320157It was ratfag in the last thread all along
>>98320211It was originally, newfag. Doom of Malan'tai doesn't even exist anymore but that's still in the pic too.
>>98320217It never had a model it doesn't count.
>>98320228acetone?
>>98320092ork v ig is the most kino matchup for me (ig) as well
>>98320236that's a cum jar. anon has a medical issue
>>98320236>>98320244its my urine
>>98320236it's his (>>98320250) urine
hot glue your minis
>>98320254>hissorry, that anon is mistaken. I broke into this anon’s >>98320228 house last night and dumped out the contents to replace with my own. now the boxnought is covered in my piss, and when he comes out of the jar he will waddle over to me because he recognizes the smell of my lightly pissed underwear.
hows your collage entry coming along, /40kg/?
>>98320279see >>98320228
>>98320228pickle marine
>>98320282HE TURNED HIMSELF INTO A PICKLEFUNNIEST THING IVE EVER SEEN
I’ve been doing some experimenting and so far it has proved fruitfulSoon I will conclude and post my final results
>>98320300what does it mean
Should I paint my marines as risen Dark Angels?
>>98320300I’m really scared about what this is meant for.
>>98320300>Fabius Bile be like
In the event you actually play a a game against an opponent with painted models, is it weird to ask them to stage a diorama photo afterward or before the game if the terrain is good for it? Feels awkward but at the same time I’d take it as a compliment if someone asked me to do that. Never seen it done but it seems like sharing one another’s hobby results like that would be fun. Nothing ever seems to actually line up in a cinematic way during the games themselves.
>>98320084I joined a slow grow league starting at 1k. My first round is against orks and he's bringing a gorkanaut. I dont know if I have anything to handle it. Im playing chaos daemons and not running any greater daemons at 1k.His list>warbass mega armor>mek>gretchin>5 lootas>5 knobs>3 killa cans>10 boyz>10boyz>10 boys>trukk>gorkanautMy list:>daemon prince nurgle>bloodmaster>bloodletters>plague bearers>plague bearers>nurglings>nurglings>bloodcrushers >bloodcrushers>plague drones
>>98320228did you know the tau found a dreadnought cum jar that was older than their civilization
Whats the best Death Company detachment?Also anybody got a good source on bits to make proper DC? 3D prints I imagine are easy enough
>>98320332I'd be psyched if an opponent offered to do this with me.
>>98320332I usually just take cool action shots of the armies in battle, maybe I'll turn a model around or nudge it so it looks more cinematic, but I don't stage shots.
>>98320332>is it weird to ask them to stage a diorama photoAs someone who refuses to field anything less than 100% painted models, I would relish the opportunityNothing shows appreciation like wanting pictures
>>98320300What the fuck lmao
>>98320300This is a blue board anon
Remember when the Imperium was allowed to be absurdly self-defeating and no one complained and/or referred to it as "grimderp?" Pepperidge Farm remembers.
>>98320279haven’t even bought the model yetthis is the perfect opportunity to prove I’m not a daydreaming failure
>>98320367There is no grimderp.
>>98320367>when the Imperium was allowed to be absurdly self-defeatingWas never a thing. Originally the Imperium was too big a place to be any one thing at all. Describing it as "self-defeating" doesn't even make sense because who the fuck are you talking about? A given High Lord? A particular planetary governor? It's a million worlds that only loosely have anything to even do with each other. And half the shit the Imperium as a whole does that clueless reddit retards whine is evil or oppressive or "problematic" is completely justified under the conditions of living in their universe where daemons actually exist and psykers can turn into gateways that let them come through, and where most aliens are murderous lying backstabbing pricks if it's even possible to negotiate with them at all.
Where's that discord server for this thread?
>>98320279Waiting for some transfer sheets in the mail bc I can't freehand for shit. My bitch ass didn't spring for a tracked shipment so I'm stuck hete looking out the window for the mailman like it's the old times.
>>98320279Haven’t even decided what I want to do
>>98320333Charge your blood crushers into it, finish it off with your daemon prince
>>98320308My guys? An elite task force of Risen veterans, hand picked by the Lion himself. They serve as his personal troops, executing the missions 2 xtreme and 2 edgy for regular marines. Each one is a veteran of a thousand thousand battles, their names unknown but their deeds carved into the gaps of history books...their designation?inner circle companions, only $60 for 3 at www.warhammer.com
>>98320138AFAIK all official wording in universe and in marketing is “orks” and most fans naturally follow it. most times when I’ve seen “orkz” used is when the ork is particularly silly/retarded and so its a lot goofier and funny to have EVERYTHING they say be made with the wrong letters whenever possibles (k’s, z’s, a’s, ect.)so pretty much orks is right generally, but if you love the retarded green alien aspect of orks, then orkz is good.
>>98320138orks is how humans say it, orkz is how da boyz say it.
>>98320442Fuck off faggot.
>>98320442WRONG
>>98320332On one hand I'd be flattered, but on the other hand I'd consider ulterior motives. Maybe this whole game is going to be content for social media and not actually something we're just doing together for fun. Seems more likely these days too.
>>98320457>those statlines and special rulesTAKE ME BACK
>the angriest primach is called anger on>the oldest elf is called old rad>the magicest primach is called magic nuts>the other angry primarch that huffs exhaust fumes is called perturbed abo>the guy that subverts populations into producing more of his kind is called genital stealerwho wrote this shit? tolkien?
>>98320442WRONGNOW TAKE YOUR DUMBASS TRIPCODE AND GET YOUR SECONDARY ASS OUT OF MY GENERAL!
>>98320478There was so much soul in the older rules
>>98320483>the gayest primarch is named lion'elisuckdicks johnsona little on the nose there, GW
>>98320209>Imagine if GW actually gave us Tzeentch daemons like this instead of the super-flanderized "LOL HERES ANOTHER BIRD" shit they've been doing for yearsgaunts from AoS are kino as fuck and i'm mad they aren't in 40ki still wouldn't play chaos demons even if they were though lmao
>>98320483>litbabby has never heard of a charactonym before
>>98320483>the orcs faction is called orks
>>98320215?
>>98320483Let's see how we far we can go without specifically mentioning Ferrus Manus.>The primarch of the Raven Guard is named "Raven Raven".
>>98320147Oh nonono what happened purge sisters?
>Was hoping to death that the monolith would become good again with 11th>It actually kinda did but my only options to use it are Hypercrypt + Hand of the Dysnasty silvertide or buying into Cursed Legion proper with Nekrosor and the named C'tansWhich way do I steer this big funky disco pyramid, anons?
So do you guys just accept that your minis come damaged from GW? I wanted to get into this but I've bought 4 boxes and all of them had damaged details from the sprues rubbing on each other during shipping. Why don't they put bubble wrap or something between the sprues??
>>98320483>the faction that uses their mouth and claws to kill are called tear and rips
>>98320576Pics? If your sprues at that damages you should be contacting GW for replacements, that's what I've done whenever I've had any issues.
>>98320576Depends on the issue. I contacted GW regarding the Red Terror arm error that affected nearly every sprue and I got told to go return it to the shop I bought t at. Others can get replacement sprues pretty easily.
>>98320485what if the orks don't die fightinganon made that tier list of who they like to fight the most, do they still "always win" against the ones they hate who never engage them in a proper fight?
>>98320569Your call obviouslyMonolith+silvertide is more fun and thematic and you actually get to use the monolith for its intended purposeWith the named c’tans its probably better competitively overall but the monolith just becomes another big model on a table of big models so it doesnt really get to shine
>>98320609i mean theyre made of fungus and they just love combat so even boring losses are essentially just neutral to them
>>98320576I’ve never had significant damage so idkIf I had an issue I would contact GW or the LGS I bought it from and try to get a replacementIf they were dicks about it I would just refuse to buy from that seller any more and take my money elsewhere
>>98320279Going for the rustbucket meme again, so original
>>98320536Be quiet ratfag
>>98320569Change it up based on whether you wanna play purge the foe or take and hold. Personally I think Necrons are good on Take and Hold atm, and you’d have a lot of fun playing silvertide. You’ll easily max out your primary and be annoying to kill. Whereas with C’Tan there’s a lot of detachments/dispositions that can ignore them and hide for a points victory.
>>98320662Basecoat rust color with dry brushed metallic looks so good, I can’t believe there’s people out there still trying to depict rust with weathering recess washes.
The prepainted terrain looks better than I could paint. Is it done by robots or third worlders?
>>98320132>Sisters have a 34% win rateFucking how is it that low?
>>98320838There's even little display done in freehand on the computer screenHow do they do it? Sweatshops like the other prepainted terrain?
>>98320856Nevermind I've bothered to investigate.The prepainted stuff is done in the factory, scan-then-print using UV resin dotsThe prints look like shit, the preview pieces are probably the hand-painted originals that were scanned not the ones being sold to customers. False advertising.
>>98320853being able to guarantee 6 wounds like once a game isn't worth your units being the same point cost as space marines at half the wounds
>>98320856Is that really an image for the pre-painted ones? I just figured they were all filter airbrushed like screen printing a t shirt. They’re also selling the same terrain unpainted, and they’d have eavy metal painted pics on that store page, s’why I ask.
>>98320675I had a sticky beak into the previous thread, are you the guy schizophrenically accusing random anons of being me¿
>>98320132I don't know, I don't play this game
>>98320895https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1abmqefl/the-big-summer-preview-new-starter-sets-and-ready-painted-terrain/Technically that picture is from the "Combat Patrol: Battlezone" terrain set, which may or may not come painted, while this picture is from "Warhammer 40,000 Battlefields: Armageddon" which is shown immediately below it and has this picture instead. They look the same to me though.
>>98320883Damn yeah that’s rough. If it looked like the picture I might’ve actually considered it
>>98320132Image is fucked up on mobileWhat site is it so I can look?
>>98320904Shhh carnac / edgecoc / lamentersanon / decalman / o&t fag / ratfag
>>98320817It's far easier to do as well, looks better if the undercoat is airbrushed but not essential
>>98320888CheckedAnd remember that they nerfed miracle dice AGAIN so now they're substantially less efficient at the main thing they're used for. You're paying a 50% premium on all your units for this btw.
>>98320279What do we need to paint up for it? I've been painting votanns. They're bad, but they're painted and they're mine!
>>98320993Something "heavy"
>>98320279I already posted it last thread.
>i like x unit but no one is running it competitively so im not going to use itThe compfag brainrot has ruined the minds of 40k players
>>98320994Ooh, I've got a sagituar that's almost done, maybe I'll finish that up next.
>>98320933all me btw>t. Samechad
>>98320997What's wrong with wanting to play comp anon. You are playing at local tournaments to help your local scene right? You're not just painting models alone right?
>>98321007These are just for casual games anon, the people im talking about dont play competitively
I only have to paint 3 more models to have my list done, but they're my least favorite models to paint. They're even already half painted, but I can't bring myself to pick up a brush. Give me some strength anons.
>>9832100710e and comp players killed my local LGS. They're not even bad guys and weren't even assholes, but through just playing more optimized lists, made the game so stressful and unfun to try and keep up with that everyone who couldn't build to that level trickled out, and then they stopped coming. We had like 30 players in the store at once on weekly nights, and now it's 4. I don't know what to blame other than 10e
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98321001Based, wish I had the time to do that
>>98321017Suck less1 color at a time.Here are some sorcs, I just needed to get done. They'll look good on the table, which is all that matters for playing.
>>98321034What is the collage theme this month?
I think Votann should lean more into either "advanced technology" or "repurposed mining equipment." Every other non-Tyranid faction either leans fully into "we have purpose-built war technology" or "we have slapped-together, repurposed equipment," but Votann does both, and I think it suffers for that.
>>98321056Mining equipment is GSC.
Ork bros what detachment(s) are you running?
>>98321056I don't think the faction suffers for it at all. Having multiple fantasies in a single faction is fine.
Ideas how to make Armoured infantry work?I was thinking of spamming sents and hippos and perhaps use the new spotting force to ingress in centaurs with cadians to gum up the board early.
Chaos Votann wen?
>>98321127>le thing with le spikes when?Never again.
>>98320383>Was never a thingThere's a canon story where the Administratum are just sending guard regiments to a world so they could take 1 city. The planet had like a 95% casualty rate, and the fighting got so retarded and absurd that the was finally taken, but to get over the wall they basically created a ramp made of corpses.Only for the Administratum to realize they had been sending guard regiments to the entirely wrong planet, so the entire war was fucking pointless and nothing but a waste of human life.Then there's that even more recent example of the WH+ animation where the commissar and some kasrkin come to take all the last remaining ammunition from a guard fortress which had already ran out of ammunition pretty much. And left those guardsmen to be overrun and die to the orks because they couldn't even defend themselves due to having no ammo.Only for all that collected ammunition to just be thrown in the trash essentially because the Administratum's had no space to house the said ammo.Meaning the death and sacrifice of those guardsmen meant nothing, it was a waste of life for no real reason beyond bureocratic decision making.Both of these are perfect examples of why the Imperium is self defeating.
>>98321174tldr
>>98321182Zoomer nigger
New orks aren't bad at all, they just need proper grog modifications
>>98321193>ruining the 3rd edition warboss like thatFucking REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>98321056Why is this model not sold? I completely forgot it existed
>>98321174Fuckups just like that have happened on our own single planet. 250k casualties at Gallipoli due partially to landing on the wrong beach then committing anyway instead of pulling out. Military units get fucked by supply issues all the time in large wars. The imperium is a million worlds and untold billions of billions of human beings.
>>98320853It's because at the moment SoB are unironically simply worse than marines.They pay similar points costs. Battleline are 100 points, marines pay 80 points for MORE effective wounds. or 100 points for gravis battlelins, which are 15 t6 wounds. sob are 100 points for 10 t3 wounds. And the slap is that the gravis guys all have heavy bolters. So comparing them to the equivalent, Retributors, are 100 points for 5 t3 wounds.Infernus marines do their gimmick better. Infernus marines are also 20 t4 wounds. SoB cannot field anything that is equivalent to 10 heavy flamers. The closest you can get is retributors, which is 4 heavy flamers for 100 points, which is 5 t3 wounds.SoB unironically pay more or the same points, for less wounds, less toughness, and the worst part: less shooting. LESS of everything for the same points.Even the sob units that are good on paper, like Vahl, Castigator, Immolator, are still not that special when you look at the Marine special character roster. I would pay my left nut for Vulcan or And the ultimate slap in the face is when marines have a similar but strictly better version of the same rule. Compare Bringers of Flame to Firestorm Assault. Not only is Assault strictly better rules wise, it's ALSO 2 dp instead of 3.In the past, people would say that there are fewer marine models on the table so sob had numbers, but that's simply not true anymore. Every marine being t4 2w and t6 3w means they are effectively harder to kill. Fewer models doesn't actually matter, the firepower-to-kill is higher for the marines. You also have to inflict 2 wounds before the fist marine gun is removed as a causality, whereas sob begin removing firepower from the first wound.Trend continues with vehicles. I would love to have Repulsors and Impulsors. The Castigator doesn't even match up against the Executioner.Marines are the most popular army, ans whenever you play against them, you're just playing a better version of yourself. Unironically.
>want to buy predator and vindicator tanks for my black templars>need to wait until space marine codex comes out to see if they get sent to legends>rumour of them getting refreshed as wellSometimes I envy fake factions like dark eldar getting 1 model a decade so they don't need to worry about their range getting obsolete.
>>98321270>gladius hull vindicator
>>98320559That's so raven
>>98321270Just buy them from the HH range, of course your BTs are gonna have great crusade era shit
>>98320483>magnus is magic nutsWhat the fuck are you talking about
>>98321252Still self defeating.
I never come in this thread, I'm genuinely asking because I don't understand. Why do all Warhammer games I see look like this? Not the models being unpainted, but specifically the terrain being so barebones and disinteresting
SHOO PERRYMANLET
>>98321303Normies and combo fags play -current edition-This is a standard -current edition- layout.
>>98321303I dunno, didn't you get your answer the other 8 times you tried this shitpost?
>>98321303>mom, I posted it again! :D
>live in 3rd world country>chimeras sold out everywhereGuess I have to get them from overseas then…
>>98320533>Star Wars trailer guyI wish I could be blissfully ignorant and able to be easily satisfied like him but with warhammer 40k stuff.What warhammer 40k thing would make you react like the Star Wars trailer guy would?For me it is being granted 40,000 percent creative control over warhammer 40k so I can make it better for me and my shitty tastes that everyone else will hate.
>>98321317Several different file names which means it's multiple people posting it, newfag. Do you even know how 4chan works? Memes were created on 4chan because this site is made for saving other people's pics and reposting them
>>98321267yeah. it's an identity issue. sob are supposed to be reasonable short range firepower in good transports backed up by some reasonable shooting from castigators and paragons, but this style of playing is completely powercrept by marines. they do that style better and they are more resilient while they do it with better vehicles too. they even do the flame theme better with a better flame theme detachment and characters and their flame unit is literally just better. gw made marines completely encompass and outperform everything sob do. the sob codex needs some insane special rules to compensate and give them a unique identity.
>>98321332Don’t bother.I took a warhammer 40k reaction image from knowyourMeme once and some guy thought I was a bunch of other anons on different boards.
>>98321332>>98321338>the cries of an exposed manlet
>>98321332It's pretty clearly the same guy.
>>98320209They're getting there
>>98321341>338 hereI am a different anon but what did I walk into when I brought up the annoying file name trolling that occurs on this warhammer 40k forum?What’s the context and latest /40kg/ lolcow lore now?
>>98321353There was a guy in /wfg/ years ago that posted his shirtless pics all the time and was always making fun of Warhammer terrain. He buck broke /wfg/ so bad that they still think it's him any time someone makes fun of bad Warhammer terrain
>>98321332It's the same guy. You aren't slick, just drop your shitty act and bait.
I rest my case
>>98321270Just buy the models and proxy.
>>98321363>He buck broke /wfg/ so badweird revision, he was laughed into leaving because he let slip he was a homosexual manlet
>>98321315I still want to see the original pic showing how short he is
>>98321363I see.I will accept that us warhammer lads deserve to get mocked for bad terrain like the warmahordes lads did too.I do accept that game terrain can never be as good looking as professional and passionately made diorama terrain because to make a good terrain board sacrifices have to made in the name of gameplay. With that said the problem is that terrain quality has gone in the direction of being bland unstylish L shaped terrain instead of a middle ground between tournament fairness and good appearance to make the imagination of dudes fighting easier and more immersive.A diorama reused for wargaming may not work because there will be limited spacing for models to move about or even room to roll dice.But what’s an example of good wargaming boards that hit a balance between the diorama and the tournament fairness?
>>98321378It was a pic of his reflection in a window at night with zero objects in view to reference his height.
>>98321382>tournament fairness Nigga just listen to yourself..
>>98321395It is 5am and I am tired but I can’t sleep.Sorry senpai.
>>98321378The "shoo perrymanlet" schizo just randomly decided that he's short in his headcanon and spams that all the time
>>98321267Sisters got to where they are after multiple nerfs after they buck broke the tourneyfag meta.Turns out dice manipulation in a dice game is too good when left unchecked. They need to get rid of the dice mechanic.
Are recasters getting rarer? I saw a post about it and I’m not sure if it is true or not.Are they getting rarer because gw is clamping down on them somehow or because of 3d scanning for 3d printing?
>>98321332Christ, you're a loser.
>>98320662>get toothbrush>use toothpick>dip toothbrush in runny paint>use toothpick to scrape across toothbrush>the flecking is almost like starry pattern along the model, unlike the "bloom mist" of an airbrushits a uncommon rust/chipped paint method for WW2 models
>>98321431Nta but what is this technique so I can look it up for more info?
>>98321440it's not hard, a toothpick is more consistent than the finger though from the video belowhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/-XsUje41ymwhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZxD09Nj3IWIIf you want to do your guard camo with this first then it can totally fill that role>or the starry sky eldar scheme as old as 2nd edition
>>98321333Marines have kind of overcrept the mechanical identity of most other factions. Because they have so many units and so many detachments and are always trying to br kept semi-competitive by GW. If you look at their roster it is wild how many crazy good options they have that still don't see general use just because they have even better options available. But you can probably pick your favorite Elite unit in your your favorite army and find a strictly better version of it in Space Marines if you try.
>>98321400Guess I can believe it considering no one saved the original pic as proof
>>98321449Thanks!I figured it looked so simple that it looped back into being more complex than it looks.
>>98321410I'm sure they are but I doubt it has anything to do with GW. its just that every group of 3 or more players on the planet has one guy who prints now. recasters still get some business if they have access to especially rare or expensive sculpts, but it definitely cuts into their business that nobody needs the "cheap option" or a source of unusual poses/bits anymore.
>>98321431Oh anon im fine with the technique im using, but im always happy to try new ones
>>98321452That’s why people are so buttblasted about the Defiler. The RepEx isn’t better than it.
>>98321553Well, the RepEx should be better, because it's a well-designed cutting edge grav-tank while the defiler is a disgusting abomination infested by a daemon, why would it be better? The "I have a gun poking out of my chest" chaosfag unit is only better right now because gw wants to sell it, and frankly I'm surprised it has sold so much considering that chaos fans are all race traitors, trannies and hipsters who want to play "the bad guy faction" despite marines looking better in every way and being a faction for honest Christian players. honestly shocked that chaos hasn't been discontinued outside of maybe some new "40k horde mode" gamemode where both players play marine armies and have to kill waves of inferior chaos counterparts that have behaviors dictated by a card deck.
Trying to build an armoured speartip list with a bunch of assault terminators but I'm kind of stuck on how to fill the last few hundred points of the list.So far the core is:>1x5 assault terminators with lysander in a land raider (might add an ancient with tip of the spear)>1x5 assault terminators with a chaplain with the liberator enhancement in a land raider>1x5 devastators with multimeltas with a captain (to get the free purgation doctrine) and armoured commander inside a repEx from reserves>2x5 scout squads for actions and secondaries>2x5 intercessors for ObSec behind the terminator blocks (potentially 2x10 inside rhinos if they remove the dumb restriction?)>land speederThat's 1840 points and I have no idea what else to add.
>>98321584Cut down to 1x5 intercessors and include a second RepEx.
>>98321596Isn't 4 big ass tanks pushing it in terms of physical space? I'd upgrade lysander's squad to a 10 man inside a spartan but james sent it to fucking legends and the event I'm using this list for doesn't allow legends units.
>>98321584Bigger units and fewer action monkeys. Take and Hold doesn't do many actions or spread across the board, there's only a couple of action secondaries and one is about sitting on objectives which you're already doing. Denying your opponent unit kills is more important than in 10th.
>>98321600Naw, remember you can toe buildings to shoot through them in 11th, you don’t have to funnel into alleyways. Hullhammer is back
>>98321600>>98321584I can’t take terminators seriously, what is this art man. Dudes fat as fuck and doing the big steppy. Bet his balls are stuck together
>>98321601Should I cut the intercessors and add more terminators? Lysander makes every terminator OC2 and I have another 10 tactical terminators. Can't afford transports for them though. Perhaps a deepstriking 10 man with an ancient for OC3 to be an extra pain in the ass?>>98321603Yeah but I still need to fit between terrain to actually move unless I pay for the stratagem.
>>98321604That’s the beautiful posture of 2+/4++
>>98321604rape this anon
>>98321604That's what makes them cool.
>>98321609Having a unit in reserve to rapid ingress somewhere annoying keeps opponents honest. You don't need to bolt characters to everything.
>>98321615No but ancients are just 40 points and it's another 5 wounds to chew through and it makes the entire unit 32OC and has situational +1 to hit and +1 to wound which those cyclone missile launchers like. Of course for a msu squad just to bodyblock it's not worth it.
Are marine players subhuman?
>>98321620Primarisfags are.
>>98321620*Transhuman
>>98321619Anyone putting enough OC on an objective to make the ancient matter is tearing those termies up regardless. Going from 1 to 2 maybe an argument, but 2 to 3 nah don't waste anyone's time.
>>98321620yeah. playing marines outside of HH just marks you out as a NORMIE primarisfag
>>98321626Fair enough. Just put that in newrecruit and replacing the intercessors with 10 terminators clocks at exactly 2000 points. Will try the list for a bit see if it needs more changes.
Are Grey Knights the most hipster power armor faction or is that Deathwatch?
>>98321648no that's sisters of battle
>>98320132>one Imperial Agents chad giving the faction an 80% winrateyou can't nerf someone who has nothing left to take
Do the new flying custodes look out of place with the old custodes and do the new custodes have any useful bits for the old custodes both terminator and regular custodes and are the old custodes still safe?
>>98321604>I can't believe an antique highly protective suit of armor would be thick and bulky
>>98321648That would be Votann.
>>98321553marines are supposed to be elite, they should be better than other faction equivalent units
>>98321620Most of the fattest and weirdest people ive seen at my lgs have been marine players.
>>98318259>Someone finally posts it>had emergency and couldn't pick it upCheers anonAlso I hate my life
>>98321584>1x5 devastators with multimeltas with a captain (to get the free purgation doctrine) and armoured commander inside a repEx from reservesSo with the changes to heavy weapons, does disembarking count as moving less than 3"? Would those multimeltas hit on 3+ (or 2+ with purgation)?
>eldar>the faction known to have the zoomy teleporty hyper synergy tactics on the table>but the eldar player at my lgs just runs hordes and hordes of guardians buffed by psykersEldar players, is he committing eldar heresy or is he actually some sort of 200 IQ autist who has figured out eldar? Because he keeps winning by just pushing his buffed guardians up the board like they're fucking orks backed up by 2 wraithknights
>>98321685Fear the elftide.
>>98321685Seer council is just the only viable detachment they have right now I think.Most of their other options from 10th have been neutered and their internal balance is a mess.
>>98321671Marines are supposed to be baseline.They were made so humanity can keep up with everyone else. Orks are stronger, eldars are more skilled, tyranids are more adaptable, etc.Space Marines are the well rounded generalists to everyone else's specialists. That is until the primaris and now Marines are generalists AND specialists.
>>98321695translation: we don't have 68% winrates anymore so we're DOGSHIT BAWWWWW
>>98321697>They were made so humanity can keep up with everyone else.No, they were made to conquer the galaxy, and they did a good job of it before they started fighting themselves.
>>98321676I will repost them in a few hours when I'm back from home
>>98321697>Marines are supposed to be baseline.No? IG are baseline. Marines are elite shock troops.
>>98320132Nids are fine**: dogshit at actually engaging with the enemy because of shitty profiles but can still play the objective game well enough to win
>>98321714Absolute God.
>>98321721oh so they're still playing 10th edition.
>>98321726We all are, mate. With a coat of paint over the rusty framework.
>>98321730I will say that the new assymetric primary missions are really fun and I think it's about the only thing I like from the newer editions better than the older ones.
Does anyone know what paint i can best use to recreate this type of armour? I thought Warpaints Dark Emerald or Orc Skin but im not certain.
>>98321744Silver undercoat with green contrast maybe?
>>98321655I really shouldn't put my dick in there, however...
>>98321746>contrastIf you used constrast, you didn't paintIf you followed the instructions to build your minis, you didn't buildIf you used an app while gaming, you didn't playThis is a general for true hobbyists, not lazy casuals
>>98321671if the marines weren't artificially made the bestest ever in every story, they would be getting slaughtered by every other non-guard/ork/gsc elite unit.>aspect warriors have trained for longer than the marine has been alive in their prefered combat path>destroyers are near unkillable engines of titular destruction>tau battleships snipe them from miles away>nids drown them in warriors or run them over with tyrant guard>custodes existbut the imperium isn't allowed to be weak, so all of the above will die to a single bolter round and reality itself will bend to give the marines a win.>98321699uh oh, schizo melty>>98321709>so good at conquering that the imperium was almost destroyed by orks not once but twice, and suffered insane casualties during the rangdan xenocidesmarines were made to fight orks and subjugate human worlds then be thrown away like thunder warriors.
>>98321757>then be thrown away like thunder warriors.Go away Horus. Your schizophrenia isn't real.
>>98321757>marines were made to fight orks and subjugate human worldsThey fought way more than orks and humans. They smashed every xenos empire they came across.So they weren't made to 'keep up' but to dominate and destroy.
>>98321678>Heavy>That unit was not set up on the battlefield this turn.No.
>>98321768Fuck. They really hate meltas.
>>98321717Guard are chaff.
>Decided to finally use the terminator librarian from Leviathan>Tear my collection apart trying to find the sprue>Realize I went "oh I'll never need this" and sold it like 2 years agoGoddamn it, past me.
>>98321772Gretchin are chaff.
>>98321773well, what did you spend the money on?
James let intercessor sargeants take combi weapons in the new kit please!
reminder that lasguns fire yellow star wars blaster bolts and always have. dawn of war secondaries get btfoed
>>98321787Given when it most likely was sold, I probably spent it on food.I won't go full blog post but I've been correcting my life and would have been about 420lbs at that time. I'm down to 300 now and part of correcting my life is getting through this backlog I let build up.
>>98320569THREE MONOLITHSSIXTY NECRON WARRIORSAND A NECRON OVERLORDDO IT
>>98321826nta but only reason I don't do this is because I can't just keep throwing money at it.Maybe when I set up a new display cabinet
>>98321808is this the same guy just rotating bait unprompted? I’ve been noticing random posts just bringing up “whiny eldarfags”, “primaris is king”, and now “lasguns are yellow” without anyone bringing it up.I feel like I’m in an asylum.
>>98321841You're probably right where you should be then hey.
>>98321826footprint is too big
Primaris are king.
>>98321794It would be a half assed way of keeping tacticals around so they'll probably do it. Not sure what the point would be to take combis for sternguard though when the only reason you take sternguard is because of their special issue ammo giving them dev wounds and combis wouldn't have that.
>>98320483>>the other angry primarch that huffs exhaust fumes is called perturbed abokek
>>98321853did someone say foot?
>>98321841
>>98321878No one did get those filthy things off my screen tyvm
>>98321841always remember that very few people are responsible for the majority of shitposting in any given general
>that one player that just dumps textured paint on the base of the mini and leaves it at that, no wash / highlights, no tufts or details
>>98321891You only need texture paste and some pigment powders.
>>98321891Basing is not interesting to me.
>>98321291What? They're like the most likely to have lost the rhinos in some retarded assault
>>98321891sorry, I just don’t like bases, and they’re also meant to be concrete, so its pretty tough to add any more detail on.
>>98321233It is sold, its rules are complete dogshit
>>98321902Deimos pattern rhinos are still canonically made as per Imperial Armour vol2. Any alternative pattern for gear can be explained by your particular faction/army having a deal with a forgeworld that produces those specific patterns. GW used to do that all the time before primaris nuked everything.
>>98321902You can recover old stuff, and deimos pattern is still produced
>like Dark Angels aesthetic more>like Blood Angels color scheme morefugg
>>98321917Oh I missed it somehow.Allow me to laugh at this fucking saar again
>>98321924Just make a dark angels successor that uses red for their scheme?
suggestion for a collage/challenge in the future:an inquisitor and a retinue, doesn't neccessarily have to be "legal", just going off of vibes/witch hunters/daemonhunters 3rd ed codexeswould be cool to see anons kitbash and convert some models for a small inquisitorial unit (e.g inquisitor+4 henchmen)
>>98321926It doesn't really fit unless you use a dark red, which is cool and all but not really the same thing
>>98321744Do you have a reference/painted example of how it should turn out? Faded drawing on parchment is not ideal to figure out the colors. At the moment it looks like bone-white base, green contrast, Biel-Tan green recess wash and Screaming skull highlights.
>>98321925I'm still baffled at this haircut. What the fuck is this.
>>98321924Just tell us you're gay and we can move on
>>98321685> is he committing eldar heresyNo, Guardian Battlehost painted up like Biel Tan is based and craftpilled.
>>98321685No, guardian battlehost is one of our only decent detachments right now. I kinda want to paint a million guardians too...
>>98321924Why not collect two smaller armies and mix them if you like both?>>98321939>If you like BA & DA you're a faggotThis but unironically
>>98321938I think it’s supposed to be like a little Cossack hair thingy but tied into a bun. Too much volume though, looks dumb.
>>98321945Have I got a craftworld paint scheme for you!
>>98321948I would believe you
>>98321951sorry chudcel, I'm painting them as /MYGUYS/
>>98321951...the aspect warrior craftworld? Guardian spam (and psykers) is Ulthwe.
>>98321963All craft worlds have Guardians, you don’t have to paint gbh as Ulthwe.
>>98321965He's just saying Biel-tan isn't really the renowned guardian craftworld. Obviously they all have them.
>>98321958the infinite and the divine is getting a sequel? hopefulyl this means tranzyn is finally getting an updated model.
>>98321958Yay, more rick and morty garbage. You turned orks into joke, now keep doing the same with necrons.
>>98321958THE REDDIT AND THE CRINGE
>>98321974>You turned orks into joke,what changed about orks? they're all pretty depicted pretty savagely in those cg series
>>98321958The Reddit & the Divine Part Deux
>>98321958I'm going to read this, and I'm going to enjoy it
Necrussy
>>98321958wonder if it will still be a comedy
>still no AL BL character model revealed
>>98321958oh shit, lets see if this one lives up to the precedentalso no new trazyn model still?
>>98322003at this point he'll be their token refresh/"addition" for 11th since the range itself is in decent shape still
>>98321958>The sequel finds Trazyn in an unusual position, as the opening of the Great Rift presents an opportunity to mend his… strained relationship with an embittered Orikan and uncover the fate of a long lost expedition to the Chaos-corrupted planet of Amenthis. Nothing involving Chaos is ever easy, however, and the horrors they unearth may have far greater consequences than either could possibly predict.oh, it's chaosfaggotry, instant drop
>>98320308>gun is thinner than the magazine
>>98322010The fuck you mean "it's in decent shape still" it got updated in 9th.
>>98321958Fucking siiiiick.
I have a neat little metal doodad from and old coffee grinder. It's about 35mm in diameter and has burrs that face upwards to grind the beans.With that in mind, what's the coolest admech infantry character?
>>98320308flat bolter fatigue
>>98322010there are a few relatively important things lacking an update>normal destroyers>destroyer hover-lord>ctan deceiverand yeah, trazyn, amongst a few other similarly niche but lesser known special characters
>>98322012it's going to be necrons pwning chaosfags, what's not to like?>inb4 chaos corrupted necrons
>>98322010>>98322027Trazyn and Lokhusts are my big two wants. The latter still have green rods for pete's sake.
>>98321620not all marine players but always a marine player. i've met some fine marine players but since they're so popular they also contain the worst scum.
>>98322027i forgot as i made the jump from end of 5th immidiately to 10th so shit like previous warriors and kabalites feel fine to me
>>98322037>what's not to like?chaosfaggotry taints any narrative it touches, the infinite and the divine was fun SPECIFICALLY because there was no chaosfaggotry making things predictable and boring.
>>98322048I'm still annoyed about that asshole Gashbore hijacking muh pariah nexus
I finished painting this today. I don't think never put so much effort into a single model, aside from a very small handful. Certainly the best SM I've ever done but I haven't done much.>>98321925>>98321938it's a rubber band ball on his head.Why does he look like a smallpox victim? His weapon has this weird scythe thing on it. And why does he have a bunch of fucking tubes attached to some 1950's vacuum cleaner? It looks like the weird vacuum cleaner character from the Teletubbies. What an ugly fucking model. How did they regress from Slayers to this?>>98321958>>98321974>>98321978>>98321983>>98322003this book is reddit now? I thought you all liked it. I never read it myself for the record. Are there any good Imperial fists books? I read legion of the damned and while it's about a successor chapter, it's practically an IF book. I'm not reading a 4-part HH series on the seige of terra. Something mostly self contained would be best.
How many guardsmen does it take to being down a necron warrior
>>98321936Sadly not really, I found the scheme online and only one painted example that i didnt like. For now I ordered some glittering green metallic paint to try out.
>>98322054>Why does he look like a smallpox victim?Cragley skin is a leftover/reference to the squats being retconned into the demiurg, a separate xenos race.Now the demiurg is just the name the tau know them as.
>>983220621+
>>98322054I would add a little bit of basing stuff around the rock just to make it cohesive but otherwise looks great
Looking to start CSM as a gamblemaxxer (but not be retarded about it), thoughts on this list for a 1k start to the army? I took plasma weapons wherever possible, to play into the theme.NightmareHuntChaos Lord (110pts): WarlordSorcerer (60pts)10x Cultist Mob (50pts)5x Legionaries (90pts)5x Chaos Terminator Squad (180pts)3x Chaos Bikers (70pts)Chaos Vindicator (185pts)Forgefiend (175pts)Chaos Rhino (75pts)
>>98322062hard to tell since necrons can be near pristine or heavily degradeda brave guy running up and shoving a frag grenade inside their ribcage might put one down at least until resurrection kicks in, warriors are pretty slow so it might work if it's distractedby shooting with lasguns, idk probably the usual platoon of guys required to take down one of any semi-elite enemyany heavy weapon can do itin melee with bayonets you don't want to try it, since they're obviously made from metal and very strong if slow and have good reach with their gunblade
>>98322054Looks good man
>>98322054>this book is reddit now? always was, but shitflinging aside, sometimes being reddit is healthy, in its own time and space
>>98322062Depends on the weapon the guardsman uses.
>>98322062not that many, the problem is that the necron isn't going to stay down unless there are budget constraints or the writer is retarded
>>98322054When Trazyn was first released in the revamp a decade or so ago, 4chan loved him and made lots of memes about him.Then those memes escaped 4chan and spread across the rest of the internet, as they do.Then he got flanderised in some corners of the internet.So now the modern irony poisoned 4chan has to be performative about disliking him. It is what it is.
>>98322070is this 40k art of WHFB art? that guy has a gun
>>98322109chaos champion with a bolter was a valid wargear option in ancient times of WHFB
>>98320333>gorkenaut >1k gameThat’s pretty gay
>Complaining about reddit in a reddit hobbylol
>>98322109warp fuckery often gets chaos space marines Isekaied into warhammer fantasy where they either fit right in, or die quickly and get looted by their superior chaos warrior counterparts.
>>98322124>reddit hobbyWhy are you here then?
>>98322109the realm of chaos books were for both settings, the settings are connected via the warp, you can have fantasy shit pop u in 40k and 40k shit pop up in fantasy on rare occasions
>>98322062Takes about 7 lasguns to get a roughly 50% chance of killing a warrior in one round of shooting.
>>98322131While I like the idea of CSM getting gigamogged by Chados Warriors I feel like only Chosen would really be able to fuck them up
>>98322147Your average Norscian would rip a CSM terminator limb from limb
>>98322147The people of Warhammer Fantasy are far stronger than the people of 40k. You wouldn't see a Bloodthirster being cut down by a regiment of halberdiers in 40k.
>>98322147I hate that chaos has been hijacked by space marines in 40k. Regular humans are relegated to chaff or whatever. At least give us mortal Tzeench sorcerers...
>>98321925it looks like a leper with hipster hair, buri mogs this retard
>>98321945Guardian Battlehost is awesome.My list right now:Eldrad2x Farseer2x Warlock Conclave (4 man each)2x Skyrunner Warlock2x Guardian Defenders (Farseer + Conclave)1x Storm Guardian (Eldrad leads these guys)2x 3 man Windrunners (Each with a Skyrunner)2x Dual Bright Lance War Walkers2x D-Cannons2x Fire PrismsThe D-Cannons attach to the Defenders, who I infiltrate into key positions. My opponents have become very afraid of these blobs while also being afraid of the Fire Prisms.I kinda want to cut something for a third Prism but that might be pushing what my playgroup is willing to tolerate.
>>98322143game stats don't mean anything. A space marine who has trained for a century isn't 16.66% better at hitting a target than a human guardsman who's just come out of boot camp. To be lore accurate, the space marine can hit the target 100/100 times without a problem and could survive hundreds of lasgun shots unless the shooter got very lucky. Same for a necron warrior. The armor is just that good.
>>98322157I love using WHF lore to slander chaos in my disingenuous 40k power scaling debates
>>98322156>>98322157I fully support the idea that fuckers on WFB world are just built different but didn't recognize how much sense it actually made.
>>98322147You don't get it, the average chaos marine is already a genetically and surgically enhanced supersoldier, and with advanced technology, often way older than the chaos warrior, with chaos gifts on top.A chaos warrior reaches that level without being a genetically enhanced supersoldier, and without advanced technology, and without 10k years of experience.and if your retort is that they must be getting more chaos gifts to reach that level, then you've got to remember that the gifts are meritocratic, they only get them from being outstanding in the first place.chaos marines are the imitation.chaos warriors are the real deal.
>>98322158Could a mortal fantasy sorcerer get isekai'd into 40k?
>>98322169A single Carian Wraith would bring the Tau empire to its knees
>>98322147for a 1v1 warrior vs marine its no contest for the marine, but the marine will be alone in a strange land, and he’ll likely be among tribes of chaos warriors, wizards, and cultists who will probably see him as a threat or an easy mark, and then they’ll overpower the marine through a mixture of superior numbers and skill on par with the marine.
>>98322182that's stupid, ghosts exist in 40k too the Tau would have some way to deal with them.
Any way to make a drop pod viable in 11th? Sternguard/infernus with a librarian inside using the librarian detachment?
>>98322181Theoretically yes, although it'd be difficult. He'd also be a lot less useful in 40k since the WHF world is inherently infused with magic even with the Vortex compared to the average 40k world. The Winds of Magic in their prismatic form also don't exist in 40k so he'd have to learn how to use Dark Magic or Chaos Magic.
>>98322181He would hate it there, the fantasy world is chock full of magic to use and abuse, by comparison the 40k galaxy is soulless.
>>98322182You underestimate how much plot armor the Tau have. For one, they have several psychic vassal races. For two, never underestimate "sufficiently advanced technology" in the hands of a bad BL author.
>>98322188>ghosts exist in 40k tooDo they actually, though? Is there a single canon example outside the warp?
>>98322193>Fantasy sorceror gets isekaied into 40k>Becomes a blackpilling doomer that wont shut up about how "the warp has fallen">40k sorceror gets isekaied into fantasy>His head instantly explodes
>>98322194The Tau empire would fall but farsight would have another shounen flashback and oneshot it
>>98322191>>98322193So a 40k chaos sorcerer in fantasy world would be a lot less effective than the ones born and trained there? This is a fun idea for a fish out of water story
>>98322189Sternguard brick with a Librarian is what I am running in my Forgefather's + Librarius army.I'll share my list for some ideas for you. I hate using named characters so I don't run Vulkan He'stan even though the detachment wants you to.HQsGravis CaptainLibrarian (Fusillade)Librarian (Immolator)Terminator Librarian (Temporal Corridor)Apothecary Biologis (Forged in Battle)TroopsMSU Assault Intercessors2x MSU IntercessorsTransports1x Impulsor1x Drop Pod1x Land Raider RedeemerOther Units2x MSU Scouts1x MSU Infernus1x 10-man Sternguard1x MSU terminators1x 6-man Flamestorm Aggressors (Led by Captain)1x 6-man Eradicators (Led by Aptothecary)The Libby with Immolator rides in the Impulsor with the 5 man Infernus, while the Libby with Fusillade rides in the drop pod with the Sternguard.I should probably cut some stuff but this is what I own.
>>98322207>So a 40k chaos sorcerer in fantasy world would be a lot less effective than the ones born and trained there?He'd be more powerful, probably. Chaos Sorcerers aren't restricted to the eight Winds of Magic, they can use raw warpstuff although usually aligned to one of the three gods who each have their own lore of magic. The main risk would be that he'd have more powerful that he ever imagined available in realspace so he'd be extremely vulnerable to blowing himself up. He'd also have no idea what the Winds are and if he tried to use them in their prismatic form he might spontaneously combust, turn to metal etc.
>>98322189>Any way to make a drop pod viable in 11th?No. Marine have plenty of options for deep strike infantry without a bulky and expensive pod.
>>98322070No chosen, ngmi/10Also you don’t have to use a 2DP for 1k games, I think that’s something they intended for armies post-codex, but they’ve said you can use 3DP detachments for 1k games.Bikers: GoodForgefiend: GoodVindy: bad, too expensive, no good split firing which you’ll want in 1k. Unless you already own the model, consider switching to a pred destructor, but I think the forgefiend and rhino is enough hull.Terminators: a little points costly for 1kConsider a murderwing box. 5 raptors and a jump lord is good in 1k no matter the detachment.5 chosen with a red corsair reave captain and a master of executions support is a great MSU too if you don’t want to use an epic hero.Cypher goes real hard in 1k too.
>>98322207it depends on how adaptable he is.for one, sorcery, defined as doing warp shit by contacting demons, works similarly enough, so he has a good enough starting ground from learning, but the fantasy world has a lot of wild magic around that normal wizards have to learn to wield and that takes a long fucking time to do well without getting overwhelmed, meanwhile 40k psykers have a natural genetic predisposition for opening mini-warp portals that allow them to bring more warpstuff from the realm of chaos to the physical world, a power that is almost moot in a world already saturated with magic but that is still a special skill compared to the average wizard in fantasy, which can give him an edge in certain confrontations.
>>98322236A funny point of comparison is that due to being able to interface with the immaterium more safely, wizards in Fantasy have a far better theoretical understanding of its nature which you can read in various quotes in the TTRPG books. 40k Psykers are far more unga bunga in comparison and most barely have any academic theories on how shit works.
Le ecks dee i like orks :DDXD le ecks dee
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>>98322037>inb4 chaos corrupted necrons>This could be a great opportunity to bring Chaos Androids for Dark MechanicumI won't rule it out
Good morning anons.Let’s say hypothetically I managed to work at GW in the 40k department about future models and stories. And hypothetically this job was enough for me to have a house and family.And hypothetically I proposed the idea of a rulebook allowing for Horus heresy models to be used in main 40k basically creating a “bridge” for firstborn marines and their stuff to be used in 40k.How likely would I be shot on sight for even thinking of bringing up this kind of stuff?
>>98322291They would tell you, "John, we need to see you in finance. Please come alone."The rumors are that the beancounters don't want cross-system stuff purely so they can track how well each system sells.
>>98322291>Steeeeeeern!
>>98322291You'd be gently reminded for the hundredth time that "firstborn" is being ignored from now on, and 40K Primaris units outsell everything in HH 10x over.
>>98322291>Let’s say hypothetically I managed to work at GW >hypothetically this job was enough for me to have a house and family.might as well hypothetically imagine you gained the ability to fly while your at it. GW pays its employees dirt because of the “passion tax”>hypothetically I proposed the idea of a rulebook allowing for Horus heresy models to be used in main 40k basically creating a “bridge” for firstborn marines and their stuff to be used in 40k.>How likely would I be shot on sight for even thinking of bringing up this kind of stuff?very unlikely, its probably been suggested numerous times before behind the scenes because it makes sense, and it theoretically expands the amount of models to buy for 40K, but its always been shut down for some reason or another like wanting to keep track of how successful each model range is, or not wanting ranges to cannibalize each other, or thinking their slightly different scale makes them look awkward next to each other, disagreements over the lack of aquilas on HH models which would look weird for 40K, ect.
>>98322291I don't think the people making the models and books and rules have any say on the matter, it very much looks to be an issue with whoever is managing budgets.You would have to convince them that there are ways to keep track of what sells for what, and that cross compatibility sells more than separated ranges.Not a good chance.Anyway, my suggestion is always to keep the stuff in separate "apocryphal" supplements, rather than directly mixed with the 40k ranges and their codexes, it keeps things neatly arranged and labelled just like the suits like 'em.You should probably fight the good fight for making the books more compatible with one another, rules for allies and mercenaries and coalitions and whatnot, it would be a good scaffold to have before suggesting the apocryphal stuff as one of the things people can add onto their armies.
>This chapter is elite even among space marines>They have a vast armory with an unheard number of {COOL BIT I LIKE}>Known for their {Brutality/reasonableness}I've had enough of this shit, I want Space Marine Chapters that are absolutely shit and garbage.>The Malice Decided (corruption of Malleus Descendens i.e. descending hammer) Chapter is a space marine chapter that has spent over 7000 years trapped in a small pocket of stable space within the eye of terror, they deal almost exclusively with Chaos Cults that spring up in the solar system of 3 habitable planets they are trapped in. Their equipment is heavily mix and match with both different marine marks and civilian marks adapted for their large hands. With their pride and jewel being 3 civilian grade dreadnoughts originally owned by the local PDF (i.e. sanctioner pattern automatas).Their chapter culture has degraded over the years as a result of pragmatic decisions, as they've had to give concessions to the civilians that support them to prevent open rebellion, as they otherwise see them as a drain on very scarce resources. They perform civilian police duties, frequently co-mingle with the local populaces in social events that are an unholy abomination of knightly jousting and combat tournaments and death races and MMA. A local noble who likes to play Inquisitor is working on triggering a daemonic incursion to make sure they don't get too complacent, but he might be playing with forces he cannot really understand.>>98322194>they have several psychic vassal racesGiven that the T'au are confirmed to operate as space NATO I wonder what happens when a vassal race suddenly becomes VERY powerful. Do they renegotiate a more favorable vassal deal? do they pretend to do that while getting them into a debt trap of some sort?
>>98322291They'd probably just explain to you why they won't do that.Though who knows, they seemed keen to push Custardes as cross game. That's either a sign of changing attitudes or an attempt at recouping for Custrannies torpedoing the playerbase.
WHO HERE GSC AND WHO HERE JUST?
>>98322344>what happens when a vassal race suddenly becomes VERY powerful.what makes you think that can happen? of course they wouldn't be allowed to, either because the tau empire chokes too many resources out of them or straight up rewires their industrial/tech-development sectors to be part of (read: reliant on) the empire's own.
>>98322291If you are called Alan Bligh please see your oncologist with outmost haste.
>>98322291Don't ask me how I know this is the way forward to achieve unity in the ranges, it just is, trust the plan:make one (1) space slann
>>98322291Minis that can be used in two different games make them lose money
>>98322340How do you justify the intent of removing tactical squads even though they had outsold literally everything else for decades?
>>98322386They were replaced with the better selling Intercessors.
>>98322386That's not even what happened, anon.The tactical squad outsold each individual fantasy kit, not the entire range combined.But the game of telephone has turned it into the latter statement.
>>98322385This is literally not true and they just made the new custodes for both games.
>>98322392>Update the range>But not tacticals>Give them shit rules on purpose for 9 years>They STILL sell so much GW puts an investor notice explicitely saying they won't retire the kit because it still sellsDunno man at this point not updating the unit looks counter productive.
>>98322386>how do you justify [what happened] given [my delusional beliefs]?
>>98322386The core kit from the core faction outsold everything (except uruk hai the year Two Towers came out). There are new core kits for the core faction outselling everything now, but sales are less concentrated because the faction design has changed so much and the plastic range expanded. There's nothing extra special about "tactical" squads, they're just marines.
I can't post a link but the dow4 necron/mechanicus gameplay is up. I like how diverse all the factions seem to be in playstyle.
>>98322405Is it that time again to pretend that absolutely no one even in the history of 40k bought or used tactical squads and that's why they deserve to be squatted?
>>98320333Gorkanauts only move 8" and shoot on 5s, you can safely avoid it
>>98322407They are the quintessential marine unit. The core and face of not just the faction but of 40k as a whole. I question why someone would even dare sugest the thought of replacing them. There can't be any benefit from it.
>>98322410Yeah I liked the Dominion function for the Necrons.It gives me some hope that Tyranids, if they get a DLC, will have an interesting faction rule as well.
>>98322411>you are mocking my [absurd beliefs]?>well now I'm going to say I have more [absurd beliefs] but about you!
>>98322422Anon that has been said here time and time again.
>>98322402>>Give them shit rules on purpose for 9 yearsTacticals have been since long before Primaris arrived.>>They STILL sell so much GW puts an investor notice explicitely saying they won't retire the kitI doubt they still sell well. >Dunno man at this point not updating the unit looks counter productive.People forget but marines got a refresh not long before Primaris. The tactical kit is not that old all said, and they've had several Horus Heresy kits you can use as well.
>>98322420If the game doesn't flop and they're able to add more factions with the same flavorful gameplay variety it's going to be quite the cool little game
>>98322424>my [absurd beliefs] are facts!
>>98322418>They are the quintessential marine unit.That's a weird way of looking at things. The "face" of the marines and warhammer as a whole was the Mk7 armour marine. It's now the MkX armour marine. Originally it was the MkVI armour marines.
>>98322431The current tactical squad kit is from 2013. That was 13 years ago. Btw intercessors are getting an update that changes fuck all.
>>98322386If reality doesn't align with your assumptions maybe you should reassess your assumptions.
>>98322431NTA, but they do sell well only because of Deathwatch. Everyone plays Deathwatch with just tactical spam.
>>98322431>>98322456>intercessors removed from store before tactical squad
>>98322229Thanks, chanon
>>98322456>The current tactical squad kit is from 2013.Yeah, that's not long before they changed direction for the marines.>Btw intercessors are getting an update that changes fuck all.Probably they'll just make them look more fucked up and battle damaged like the Armageddon ones.
>>98322465What?They literally don't.Deathwatch players use their unique Veterans, then they spam Indomitor killteams and they spam Deathwatch Terminator killteams.I have not seen a single DW list with Tacticals.
>>98322418They were the quintessential marine unit of your and many other peoples' childhoods, but it's been 9 years since primaris took over. The replacement already happened, they just didn't stop selling old kits to an increasingly small section of customers.
>>98322284I'm printing some cards and kitbashing stuff to make a Space Crusade board, what should I paint the chaos space marines?Alpha Legion because they are always up to some bullshit and would therefore work with orks and necrons? Red corsairs so I can have an unifying theme in pirate dudes?>>98322354We're chillin' the timeout corner is comfy because you know we won't stay here for long. Besides all 1DP together is decent enough to keep our head above water.
>>98322465I don't think Deathwatch sells well. Whenever I rarely do see them it's usually the Primaris kill teams.
>>98322475Oh I thought people built all of those with the tactical kits, my bad.
>>98322469The multi part kit. Two different push fit intercessor sets were just released.
>>98322471>like the Armageddon onesI want everyone who says this to check their fucking eyes because even though GW keeps repeating in all of the marketing the models absolutely do not show it. Having 1 helmet per 5 with a mk7 facemask isn't "bringing back old armour marks" and ir sure as hell doesn't make them a proper sucessor or update for tacticals.
>>98322418Tacticals have stopped being the core and face of space marines or 40k the moment the intercessor was revealed, don't live in denial.
Does armageddon have BA decals?Will the starters?
>>98322478It's also been years since twitter got renamed and it hasn't made the decision any less stupid and no amount of time passing ever will.
>>98322489Oh, you thought they used tacticals as the bodies for their stuff?That's a fair mistake, sorry for being harsh.Their veterans actually are a slightly bigger scale than the tacticals. Back when they came out, we all thought they were a sign of a tactical update, then Primaris came.
>>98322492I never said that though? I said they looked more fucked up and battle damaged.
>>98322505I mean it was. For chaos and 30k. Proving how unnecessary the whole primaris thing was.
>>98322513I play CSM so I do like the scale of the new Legionaries but I wish they weren't so ornate. The old ones were nicer in that sense.
>>98322492nta and I'm not going to argue that they are wearing old marks or damaged armor, but the armageddon guys and the space wolves have branched the potential looks of various bits and bobs of markX to be effective references to some parts of older marks, like bonding studs, fused kneepads, absence of trim on a pauldron, or some other plates removed or replaced on the standard mkX look.
>>98322284Chaos Androids are already back as of Genefather and ArchmagosThey're unrelated to Necrons and are shells built to house daemons
>>98322527>are shells built to house daemonsDeveloped by chaos votann, perhaps?
>>98322452>and warhammer as a whole>warhammerObvious newfag is obvious
>>98322498>armageddonbro, check the store page or warcom.>how about starter setsthe warcom articles for the starter sets make no mention of decals, so you’ll have to wait for the boxes to come out to get confirmation.
>>98322533You think 40k isn't the dominant force in Warhammer?
>>98322526But why would I want mkX cosplaying as old marks instead of the actual old mark pieces like the corsairs?
>>98322531Maybe. I can't confirm or deny that because NOBODY EVER POSTED AN ARCHMAGOS PDF AND MY LOCAL BOOK STORES DONT STOCK WARHAMMER SHIT ANYMORE
>>98322534>Only Goffs, Evil Sunz, and Bad Moonz>A single skull and bonesgood thing I still have the ones from the tankbustas kill team
>>98322537No, you're just a newfag and/or tourist because you call it "Warhammer". This is a very new phenomenon that's only started happening in the last couple years and instantly outs you as having no idea what you're talking about. People who actually play 40k just call it "40k" 99% of the time and "Warhammer 40k" the rest of the time, and have done so for 39 years.
>>98322556It was worty thou you newfag
>>98322561No one ever actually did that, Rick Priestley brings it up as a joke
>>98322556I wasn't referring to 40k though, I was referring to warhammer as a whole, hence why I said "warhammer as a whole."
>>98322564You wouldn't know. You weren't there.
>>98322566Nobody says "Warhammer" meaning 40k and Age of Sigmar together, nobody thinks of them as the same thing. It's just newfaggotry through and through.
>>98322577>Nobody says "Warhammer" meaning 40k and Age of Sigmar together40k, Fantasy, LoTR, and all the other stuff GW sell. It's so common for people to do this that Games Workshop actually changed all their branding to just be Warhammer.
>>98322588they did that to stop boomer karens from harrassing their employees about buying catan or ticket to ride
>>98322544and then some of the imperium shit flows into the ork decals, so you have to do some schizo zigzags to split them. I can see what they were going for because those three klans fill the three main paths for an ork army those being melee footsloggers, heavy dakka, and vehicles, but its still really weird that they didn’t just make two decals to fill out all of the klans, and then use the rest of the space for marines to have black templars, space wolves, and marines malevolent representation.
>>98322588>It's so common for people to do this that Games Workshop actually changed all their branding to just be Warhammer.No it was never common and was an obviously out of touch corpo move that everyone thought was off putting at the time. You're basically telling the thread you're so new you arrived after that gay little hammer with the eagle wings logo was created and the rebranding happened.
>>98322596That would have been an expensive fix for a minor problem, and wouldn't explain why they changed their website.>>98322598It's always been super common to refer to warhammer as warhammer.
>>98322538Nobody cares what you want, it's clear you don't buy shit nor actually like 40k.
>>98322598>No it was never commonWhere are you from?Serious question, not trollingIt's very common here to call it that here
>>98322490>multipart kit shelved in favor of push fit:^)
Are any of the warhammer+ shorts considered a must watch?
>>98322628no
>>98322628lol
>>98322623USAI've been playing for almost 30 years, in half a dozen different LGS/clubs/groups across multiple states, but also interacting with the international scene in forums for two decades, Warseer, B&C, Dakkadakkka, plus a dozen years on /40kg/.I am telling you, until very recently, no one anywhere ever said Warhammer when referring to 40k to the point that it sticks out instantly to my eye like a sore thumb. It is like the closest example of a personal experience with this inglorious basterds meme I have ever had.
>>98322628Astartes is technically on warhammer +, but you can find it online. It's nicely done, not sure if it's a must watch. Fairly sure it was remixed for WH+, so it's better on YT anyway.
>>98322354hello broodbrother
>>98322648>no one anywhere ever said Warhammer when referring to 40kBut no one was referring to 40k. But also it's extremely common to refer to 40k as simply warhammer when speaking to people who don't give a shit about wargames.Like if you were speaking to your mom about what you did at the weekend, it wouldn't be strange to say I played some warhammer.
>>98322648>usaThere's your problem, it's very common in the UK and has been since I started playing (we had a Warhammer club at school in like 2003)I'm not doubting your experiences but it's not the same where you are and it's a British company, of course they would follow British trends.
>>98321958kinda wished BL would do some other books in other settings besides 40k at this point or just some Necromunda novels
>>98322679As a TOWfag I would simply like a second novel. I still can't believe they didn't release one with Cathay.
>>98322672I believe you there's a cultural difference but even still I think it's odd that everywhere on the internet I discussed it with people from the world over it was still so regularly called "40k" for decades that seeing people just say "Warhammer" is immediately weird to my eye and I've only even noticed that happening on the internet since around the time Space Marine 2 came out.
>>98320279I have Eldar ravager all ready but I've found myself...Not really knowing how to tackle it. Since those flat surfaces are a bit intimidating.
>>98322683Isn't it rumoured that the one Asian guy who did some AoS novels is doing a Cathay book?Another rumour is Mike Brooks is doing a Tomb King book, so expect the worst from that.
>>98322691>Isn't it rumoured that the one Asian guy who did some AoS novels is doing a Cathay book?no
>>98322683>As a TOWfag I would simply like a second novelHaha, not if it's like that first one.That was some hard and bitter DEIhammer.
How come barely anyone is posting models
I finally primed the Marines half of the Armageddon box, but now I don't know which units to put with my Black Templars and which to put with my Alpha Legion loyalists. Any pointers?
>>98322695>That was some hard and bitter DEIhammer.less hard than the 40k guard book, which all seem to either star women as the lead or are filled with female commissars
>>98322695Yeah it was absolute shit and graham mcneill should pay for his crimes but I would still like some more stories in the setting.
>>98322701Because I only just started on them
>>98322684I always heard it being called Warhammer here in Boston.People would only ever specify 40k at the one shop that actually had Fantasy players.
>>98322719Yeah, I mostly avoid those now, especially the ones with the women on the cover.Temptation got me with the knightly quest looking adventure though. >>98322720There's always hope.
>>98322701because I don't have anything new to post
>>98322701Because it's hot as shit and I haven't had time to prime anything.Here's an in progress picture of something, though.
YO WE CAN GET A NIGHT LORDS GRAPHIC NOVEL IF DARK HERESY REACHES 1.5 MILLION WISHLISTSCALL ME SHILL OR FAGGOT OR WHATEVER BUT WISHLIST THIS SO OUR BATBOIS CAN GET CONTENT!https://store.steampowered.com/app/3710600/Warhammer_40000_Dark_Heresy/
>>98322701I finished my 40k backlog
>>98322736Would that be the first Comic BL has had since they did that license deal with Marvel?
>>98320997Sometimes running the non-meta units circles back around to being (somewhat) competitive if people dont know how to play against them.
>>98322679>or just some Necromunda novelsThere's a bunch of old ones.
>>98322684As a wee young lad in Scotland, around since around the Eye of Terror, we'd always refer to it as warhammer, and then specify '40k' or 'Fantasy' as necessary. If you and your friends were going up town to Games Workshop it'd be to buy some warhammer.With the advent of the internet and most communications being text based, and being old enough to not want your friends to go shopping in the town with you, it's probably rarer to use just 'warhammer' though I probably would do so if referring to GW's games more widely.
>>98322687>Eldar Noir>Eldar Oscuros>Schattenjäger
>>98322701I have not had the time or motivation to paint a model in monthsI want to shoot a grot but wcyd.
>>98322765shadowhunter is a kewl name though
>>98322736did my bit for you
>>98322736I thought steam didn't allow rewards for wishlist milestones
>>98322736specifically putting this on my hatelist, so your vote means nothing.
>>98322736You're getting paid for the advertisement you're doing, right?
>>98322736Removed from my wishlist for you.
>>98322669>Tourists and normies refer to this as such, therefore I'm not a tourist or normie when refering to it as suchContribute to the male suicide rate, fag.
can a goliath truck transport genestealers and a patriarch?i remember there used to be some kind of a snafu around that but im not seeing it in new recruit, just playing around with the new 11th edition army builder
>>98322701>post finished model for the collage>no one comments>ends up in the collage>no one comments again>take it to reddit>600 updoots and 20 comments in less than a daymodels just arent worth it to post here anymore. barely anyone gives a shit
>>98322736I don't get it aren't the night lords the baddies in this game, why would they get the novel
>>98322847the pat used to take up more space but not anymore. you can fit 10 pures and a pat just fine, add a demo too for good measure.
>>98322861maybe because the player characters are sandboxy
>>98321714>>98321724>>98321676https://catbox(dot)to/mgRnWaPLK35R0M8/fileHere anon sorry for the wait
>>98322863thanksthis is the first list im working on, based on the models i have. i've got another 40 nephytes, 5 acolytes and 5 more jackals, as well as pretty much every character in duplicate, but the genestealers and aberrants are points hogs so i couldnt really fit anything else and still include them.i was thinking i'd toss either the genestealers or the aberrants in the truck, the acolyes (with demo charges) in the rockgrinders, an maybe deep striking the nephytes with the attached psykers. im trying to keep it simple without any crazy combos because i havent played the army in several years, i'd probably just bungle a more techy build so im just gonna do a bit of truck rush and horde
>>98322918Absolute legend. Cheers m8https://catbox(dot)to/EgeYSUdbdKWBkek/fileHave a free gorgon
>>98321697>That is until the primaris and now Marines are generalists AND specialists.Marines are still generalists and average.
>>98322742Happy for you anon, I’ve finished my 2k SM and 2k catachan armies this year, now working on the 2k Orks. I envy your lack of backlog
...so what's the deal with the new space marine bikers? They look identical to the previous ones??
>>983230043 new poses, thats all. Basically they took a kit with 3 poses and made it 6 poses. So upgrading old kits with more poses.
>>98323004They are multipart and have more optionsthat's it
>>98323004probably the same situation as the assault intercessor refresh after the indomitus easy builds. just fleshing out a full kit to bilk people another $80 over a few additional sgt weapon bits
>>98323008>>98323010Oh ok, thanks. I don't play marines but I kinda wanted to paint some white scars
>>98322926The pures don't need the truck as they're plenty fast already, have them infiltrate with a demo threatening bomb if the enemy has good fast melee in response. Some games (such as against EC) you might even need to sacrifice them by placing them right up against their deploy just to stop a T1 charge on your deployment.The Alphus, cool sculpt as it is, is pretty useless, and you don't need the rockgrinders as the only thing that really benefits from them are 5 man abes, flamer acos want to deep strike to do missions and take out backfield picks, it's host so get more neos, at least 60 is good. Make sure to have 5 Tool acos or at least a clamavus in your home objective.
I’m planning on making a mussolini themed gorkanaut. along with having the belly look like the fascist HQ, I also plan on putting a big fasces on top. which of these chainaxes do you think would look best? also, should the fasces have the chainaxe go on top or to the side?
I have a deathwatch boxnaut sprue that has been sitting in my backlog unbuilt but if they release a new upgraded boxnaut kit I would finally assemble it because it might be dug out of rules hell. Please GW
>>98323039#3
>>98323039>fascesI'd say the third one, and on top.
>>98323039rightmost if you put it on the side of the faggot, the second rightmost if on top
Do you look down on custode players??
So, the Sanguinor is now pretty useless, because it no longer fights first, so when the opponent charges one unit of yours, it can DS in engagement, then the opponent just kills him.BUT.Pile in requires that you pile in towards the closest elegible target and is 3 inches, so maybe the sanguinor can ds 1.999 inches away from the most lonely marine in a squad and mess up with their pile-in?
>>98323004The old push fit kit was garbage and didn't fit together properly.
>>98323105Yes and Knight players. They're usually MtG converts that googled "easiest to play armies" and want to farm easy wins off noobs via stat check.Unless they have a fully painted army, which massively raises my respect.
>>98323105I look down on all imperium players
>>98323105you know it wasn't long ago i remember they used to wait on holy terrain my opinion they should STILL BE THERE
Sic semper Primaris
>>98323105Oh, absolutely.
>>98323129grifters with their usual hot takes for clicks
>>98323129Tauchads...RISE
>>98323129Art of War are genuinely stupid, man. They based Guard entirely on the best player in the world to justify A tier.
>>98320084https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wLXolX4CQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wLXolX4CQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wLXolX4CQ
old man robot yaoi is backlet's go
>>98323119>>98323120>>98323126>>98323135what if a custode player has a fully painted army and only picked the faction because they wanted a cheap way to play both 40k and 30k using roughly the same collection?
>>98323181What do you want your opponent to give you an attaboy for the faction you chose? Nobody is going to be rude enough to mock you for it just mind your buisness and play the things you like.
>>98323154And that Guard player played against Guard in most of his competitive games.
>>98323181definitely looking down on this poor scrub, yeah
>>983231543 deathwatch players. 2 of those 3 are good.Deathwatch: S++++ TIER BEST FACTION IN THE GAMEMIT, Oxford... give these guys honorary "smartest men in the world" degrees. Mathhammer, amiright fellas?
>>98323126based and sacrimonipilled >>98323181>cheapthey aren’t even that much cheaper than space marines considering there are way more box sets for them, and there’s a metric fuckton on secondhand market. disregarding the lore and aesthetics of your army for a slightly cheaper price is just stupid.
>spend a lot of money on space marines the last six months>sold the models I already had extras of, like assault marines>realize in hindsight I should have kept my money>but I also realized I 'paid back' for the blood angels I got>realized that I shouldn't buy any orks because I already have all these marines and that was a dumb idea and I should have gotten that broken stormraven for 40 bucksAlright coolAlso in hindsight i should have gotten that battlezone fronteris terrain for 100 bucks 3 months ago.Decisions decisions when buying toys.
>>98323004It's a multipart kit that should have come out like 3 years ago. Maybe it will have some fun bits, gotta see the sprues first.
>>98323175Necrons & admech look like the most interesting & fun factions, ngl
Remember when Intercessors had three different bolt rifle options? And Hellblasters had three different plasma gun options?I kinda miss that now.
>>98323201That's why I like to plan purchases months in advance, and then keep pushing it for sometimes a year or more.Sometimes I buy cool models just for the lols, like this navigator and custodes blade champion I got, just fun dudes. No need to plan an entire army, just a fun thing.
>>98323181>But what if the Custodefag wante to be an unfun sandbag in TWO game systems?I'd look down on them all the more.
>>98323209That shit was retarded
>>98323209Yeah, it was fun.
>>98323209I don't miss the rules, but I do think it was a good idea for the sake of increasing marine customization.Sad that the rest of the marine isn't as customizable as betore. They could have made swappable breastplates and greeves, for instance.
Should I get a 3rd dunecrawler
>>98323188I just want to not be a normie and playing custodes seems very normie but they're basically an army for two game systems at the same time that look very easy to assemble and paint and that's very tempting...
>>98323220The real question is why don't you have three already?
Space Marine changes I would make.Combine Intercessors and Assault Intercessors, then make it so the ability they get is based on whether you choose a ranged kit or a melee kit.Combine Infernus, Hellblasters, and Desolators. Do the same - their ability is determined by the kit you choose.Once more, we combine Aggressors, Eradicators (Melta and Bolter) and Heavy Intercessors. Same as above, with Heavy Int making the unit gain Battleline.Basically, I think a lot of the datasheets should be condensed and made more modular
>>98323224wait, you’re talking about yourself? the fuck are you doing? just start off slow and work your way up. the game sucks, so a lot of the appeal is hobbying and lore, so you’ll want to thoroughly enjoy those aspects too. believe me, custodes is a noob trap to get you in, then when you want to branch out of the golden boys, you’ll have to buy a second army. just stick to the army you genuinely enjoy 90% of, and go from there.>it’s compatible with horus heresy thoughyou’ll have plenty of 40K games to play, and with way more variation in armies.
>>98323255>Basically, I think a lot of the datasheets should be condensed and made more modularBut why?
>>98321974Twice Dead King is at least true necron suffering kino
>>98323255These are extremely boring and pointless bookkeeping changes, why bother?
>>98323260>>98323285Space Marine roster is too crowded.
>>98323297This does nothing to make it less crowded in any way that matters. It's just a different way of organising datasheets.
>>98323255Okay, but why? You're creating some cluttered datasheets for no real gain so far as I can see.How would these interact with the rule of three? What characters can join the units, what stratagems can they use?What if GW decides this is going to be an edition without points? The juice is absolutely not worth the squeeze.
>>98323255>combine intercessorsAs it should be. Tacticals could be given melee and assault squad could be taken without jumppacks>combine special weapon squadsGood, devastators 2, let's go>combine gravisGoodSo far so good
Would you ever get a 40K tattoo?
>>98323323Absolutely not.
>>98323318I will admit this was my real intent, I think Devastators should come back and take over what Hellblasters, Infernus and Desolators do. Then add in an inevitable las and grav option.
>>98323323I'd hardly get a tattoo in the first place
>>98323332I mix primaris models with HH marines into oldhammer squads
>>98322709Is anyone going to answer my question or do you guys only argue about retarded shit
>>98323178>yaoigod forbid men have frenemies nowadays
>>98323340New to 40kg specifically and after a few weeks I don't think I've seen a thread that DIDN'T get consumed by arguing about retarded shit.
>started painting blood ravens>next white dwarf contains a transfer sheet for blood ravensb-based?
>>98323323I'm not white trash so no, I would never get a tattoo
>>98323340Your question is retarded.We don't know what either of your armies looks like or how you intend to play them.Personally I wouldn't use any of that shit for Black Templars because when I play Black Templars I focus on Black Templars exclusive units.
>>98322709>>98323340I like black templars to only field crusader squads, sword brethrens and terminators, so give it to AL legionNow let me return to my retarded arguments
>>98323353>>98323356You guys really are retarded
>>98323350>blood raven transfer sheetPlease GW BR upgrade sprue come on please please come on please come oooooooon
>>98323359I answered your question, give them to AL loyalists
>>98323258but the hh players in my area seem cool, anon...they don't want to play competitiveslop...
>>98323360There was an official pauldron in the Kill Team Cassius set if you feel like wasting money on an old Firstborn-sized set of different random marines.I got one on a discount and split it up into characters.
I hope phobos marines get restructured in the new codex, there's too many units and the use cases are all fucked up. Spreading random abilities and equipment out around 4 datasheets might have made sense before they updated scouts and made them elite (why can they teleport for free lol), but now it's just dumb.I want eliminators in units of 6 and reivers to not be shit tia.
>>98323369I'd rather spend 100 bucks on a few custom pauldrons to print
>>98323368Trust me they don't want to play against custodes either. They're a shitty skew army, annoying to play against unless you gun up for them, in which case they fold like a cheap suit. Either way not very fun to play.
>>98323323I’ve had a lot of conversations with people who get tattoos, and from they say they pay for the more advanced ones like in your pic, I could literally buy another army. so why would I want a tattoo of a bad moon when I could buy a bunch of models to make a dread mob for my bad moon?
>>98323350Shit, thanks for reminding me that I wanted to order that one
>>98323377are eldar fun to play/play against
>>98323323there’s a dude at my LGS who shared this tattoo, and I often will show it to other people (including here) because I think its funny. so no, I likely will not.
>>98323420He has good tastes
>>98323420this is painful to see
>>98322614Not liking how they've replaced the things I liked is not liking 40k?
>>98323373You can say that about every single primaris infantry squad. It could all be condensed into the same core squads 30k has. Tactical, despoiler, assault, tactical support, heavy support, recon.
>>98323398>fun to playthey have a very high skill ceiling but the rush when you pull off a match is better than any other faction except drukhari.the downside is that all their units fold like tissue paper, suck at everything except their one designated role, and their success depends on using movement tricks that have been slowly given to other armies with more durable and versatile units so the eldar are slowly losing all that made them stand out>againstagainst a bad eldar player it's a fun shitstomp where you mow down their weak effeminate gay elves in hordesagainst a good eldar player it's extremely frustrating when their ubermenschen genetically engineered hypersoldiers dodge every move you attempt and cut down your coolest units by combining crazy movement with fifty billion stratagems and other conditional rules that only work in very specific situations except the good eldar player always knows how to force such a situation
>>98323488despoiler? the fuck is this zoomer shit? tactical and tactical support? bad technical writing.
>>98323129Guardfags chimping out again lmao.Time and time again proving they're the most autstic faction.
>>98323534let me guess, you’re a space marine player?
>>98323519?
>>98323323If i had a LOT of tattoos i would add this but much smaller somewherei will probably never get even one thoughever sounds ouchy
>>98323479can you post any of your firstborn models? with a timestamp, of course.
>>98323617I can when I get home. Would that change anything about the point? Why would someone that likes older armour marks want mkX modified to look like them instead of the actual thing? Forgive the food analogy but if I like burgers I wanna eat real burgers, not some kind of tofu vegan dish trying to imitate a burger.
>>98323634because generally speaking the people that complain the loudest about armour mks are the people that don't actually play the game
>>98323658If you're not doing this for the people that do care about those armour marks why do it in the first place? The people that don't care about them are still not gonna care. It's just half assed and in poor taste.
lion coming along well i think
>>98323517Drukhari really is one of the most exciting armies to play. You have just enough speed and damage and you have to pull off everything perfectly or you just bounce and get your shit stomped but dancing that razor's edge is exhilarating.
>>98323669Damn son, very nice.
Perhaps the real Great Rift was the one between Trazyn and Orikan.
>>98323560I don't think you understand how big a fit they are throwing on reddit right now
>>98323669very well indeed, I don’t know how to describe what you did especially cause it isn’t drastically different from the box, but something you did with the head makes him look far classier and expressive, and the overall face makes me think of someone like don quixote or maybe even count dooku. I also like the purple for the little minions. thanks doc
>>98323517>>98323679>they suck but that just makes winning more funyou could say this about every faction that sucks
>>98323713NTA, but it's not that they suck (that is currently the case, but that's by no means assured for someone starting a collection now), but that they're very all or nothing in a way that also makes their balance skew to either broken or awful just like their results.
>>98323709thanks ! i was going for old man head, but toned it a bit down as it got excessive
>>98323707>Battleshock hits harder than any factioncool, we gsc don't get multiple characters to choose from to supplement Ld in different ways but we're doing fine.
>mutilators ended up being a barebones kit with no options beyond swapping arms between each other>obliterators are still stuck at an awkward squad size of two and are bundled with an unrelated modelWhy oh why did they not just make oblits/muts a dual-build kit and make a separate multibuild venomcrawler? God damn. I would buy three venomcrawlers if they were a solo kit.
just realized all land speeders have the marines without backpacks, are they never expected to get off in a hurry?do they have them in a hidden compartment and have to install them on each other slowly and sluggishly as they're gonna be wearing a totally unpowered ton of ceramite on their backs?
>>98321029That would be amazing
>>98323767He's been feeling it for years. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
>>98323756Every marine vehicle has the crew plugged directly to the vehicle, no backpacks.
>>98323756power armor doesn't weigh a ton, it's 250lb with the backpackchances are the armor has limited autonomy even without the backpack installed at all times, but if the land speeder gets downed, the lack of a backpack is the last of their problemsassuming they aren't surrounded in enemy territory they're probably instructed to retreat and regroup instead of staying and fighting for whatever reason
>>98323777Bikers have backpacks.
>>98323756the tactics they use they are probably just fucked if they ever lose their bike in battle
>>98323707>actually guard are SS tier if you are the best player in the world and you play in team tourneys that let you pick your opponent and you pick all guard opponents and you also get some weird heavy weapons team ruling in your favourArt of War? Moar like Art of KWAB
>Intercessors are goneSo how long until they become 'sovl'?On a related note, there is a new intercessor single miniature at GW stores you can get as first miniatures that doesn't have that weird gun facing down pose.
>>98323830they just released two new sets of intercessors tho
>>98323560Rent free lmao
>>98323825Bikes aren't vehicles, they are mounts.
>>98323728your army rule isn't invalidated by battleshock. guard lose their orders if they get battleshocked.
>>98323756picrel also exists, wish they'd use that
>>98323830>So how long until they become 'sovl'?Never. They are unironically and objectively just boring tacticals.
>>98323756All vehicle pilot marines don't wear packs, they're plugged into the vehicle
>>98323865>hh mk4>devs kitbash>custom FT shoulder pads>great paintjobs o u l
>>98323830There are shitheads out there who say they (now) prefer the fatcast (original) stormcasts. Sooner or later you are going to have people who say they shouldn't have added those firstborn details or whatever and will claim to prefer the original primaris releases.
>>98323850>Bikes aren't vehiclesSee, your honor, how can it be "vehicular manslaughter" if there's no vehicle involved?!
>>98323878>nowI always preferred the fatcast over the current ones. I thought they were goofy and not WHFB, but they had personality.
>>98323829Some dude makes a tier list after some skewed research and a 100k subreddit chimps out lol
>>98323865>Never.There are people nostalgiafagging for Centurions of all things.Intercessors will become SOVL too.
>>98323897>bikes aren't vehicles>sekhetar robots are>this means you can drive a egyptian robot into a dude and tank shock himDRIVING IN MY CAR
>>98323931Centurions didn't shit over beloved and iconic units.
>>98323854How the hell is he supposed to fit in there
>>98323931>centurionsCenturions were silly and suffered from being an Nth marine unit, but they didn't try to replace shit and tried to fit into the range, rather than rape it.
>>98323952they look like dogshit though
>>98323952This is why space marines should always be wearing helmets by the way
>>98323948He can't, I'd say remove the pauldrons since the bare shoulders are actually detailed, but even then it's a tight fit. Maybe they climb in & out in a specific way; tilting body, one arm first, then the body, then the other arm? Kinda like an S
>>98323959Nah he just doesnt fit lol
>>98323930>Some dudeArt of War. A Business. With influence, +100,000 subs, millions of impressions on their videos monthly. Have some of the best players in the world amongst them and have a direct line to GW's dev team. This isn't some 4chang shitposter.
>>98321753post your models with a timestamp please
>>98323955A lot of people think marines of that era looked like dogshit, thoughbeit.>>98323956Hehe, wee head
>>98323966just conceptuallythey look like shit and cannot be salvaged
>>98323960>he can't>nah he can't lolBuddy, come on now, you got to read before replying.
>>98323952Into the width stretcher so you can fit into your new armour
>>98323969The idea is fine, but the execution was lacking. I do like the centurion honours and the idea of the crossed arms inside the torso.
>>98323961Who gives a shitPeople act like owning a business means something like he’s just some youtuber who sells coaching and people buy it, it’s not some prestigious thingI could start selling coaching today lmao theres no barrier to entry, theres no certification course with a governing agency ensuring coaching quality standardsHe fucked up on a tier list he created just to have some clickbait shit to post to keep his channel active
>>98323971Buddy you said maybe he can fit if he does some goofy ergonomic shit but he just cant lol look at him
There's a lot less original types of spess marine unit than I thought
>>98323984You can create a video like that but it will have 10 views in 5 years. People are watching them because they are out there winning tourneys and events so their words do have some value and worth in the community. And don't try to give them a free pass by attributing bullshit motives (we did it for the lulz! we did it to fuck with guard players!). They are autismos and they look at the data and came to their conclusions which they believe 100%
>>98323987>He can't, maybe he could if he tried some weird shit>No, he just can'tOkay fag
>>98324007Uh oh meltie over nothing
>>98324001>Tacticals>Vets>Assault>Devastators>Scouts>TermiesThat's it for infantry, don't need more.>land speeder>bikes>rhino>razorback>pred>vindic>whirl>land raider>dreadThat's all for vehicles iirc>officer>chaplain>librarian>command squad (apoth & tech)The bloat... Do not remind me of the bloat...
>>98324006>these guys are actually really fucking good and they know their shit, some of the best in the world>but they came to a very unpopular conclusion after some skewed research which we think had some methodological errors>these guys now suck forever fuck them they actually are bad and they dont know fucking anything im better than them even though i just said theyre some of the best and they just fucked up and made a mistake, they own a business which means they should be held to the standard of never making a mistake ever or else theyre drooling retards who are actually bad at 40klike i dont even give a fuck its just retarded
No one, especially not GW, should ever listen to what some meta chasing compnigger thinks.
What do you guys transport your minis in? I am new to playing kill team but what is the safest way / efficient way to transport your minis etc?
>>98324039You can get a little case that has like these little foam squares cut out of it that fit your minisJust look up like miniature figure transport case or something
>>98324039I opt for an empty metal toolbox and use magnetized basesI do not trust any material to rub up against my models even if they're varnished
>>98324024>intercessors>assault intercessors with jump packs>infiltrators>terminators>incursor>repulsor executioner>lieutenant in phobos armour>captainSimple as. Anything more is just bloat and hipster shit.
I refuse to accept primaris marines and any of the new corporate names for factions. Drukhari sounds like cough medicine from south east asia.
>>98324025For what its worth, I think the guard subreddit is overeacting as well but this place is way too quick to throw guardfags under the bus.
>>98324077Yeah whenever I see someone unironically call them "Drukhari" instead of Dark Eldar I know I'm dealing with a faggot.
>>98324077ok
We should do another collage like Total Wolf Death but instead of Space Wolves it's specifically just Primaris and you are allowed to have Firstborns killing them, or any non-marine faction.
>>98323952Centurions look like shit and there's no redeeming qualities to them. Primaris didn't replace shit.
>>98324112Milhouse
>>98324112>Decrossing the Rubicon
>>98324118Everything's coming up Calgar
>>98324101Sounds like you're a faggot then.
>>98323934>tfw nobody remembers there are other characters besides Sans
>>98324119Kek, actually a good name
How can GW fix the mistake that was primaris?
>>98323934>didn't say DRIVING IN MY SEKHETARgrim.
>>98324140Do it againPostmaris
can someone bake?I have a very important question I want to ask in a new bread
Bolt rifles are for fags.Tacticus armour is for fags.Phobos armour is for turbo fags.Gravis armour is kinda faggy, too.Especially 8th (GAYth edition) Gravis.Your vehicles don't use treads? Gay fag.Redemptor dreadnoughts are homosexual.No special/heavy weapons in squad? Faggot.Repulsors are for queers with extra faggoty taste.Suppressors so gay they don't even sell them anymore.It's very simple GW, we bought Leviathan because of the Terminators. We didn't buy Armageddon because it's all primaritrannies.Just remember this simple rhyme - !Only Primaris in the box? Better sell off your Games Workshop stocks!
>>98324112Nobody cares
>>98324079Yeah this place is pretty quick to throw anyone under the bus lol
Anyone else find the 40K spaces are infested with leftists, transgenders, and woke weirdos? It's getting hard to game or enter spaces with normies. It's frustrating.
>>98324140Literally just release a Mk 7 squad, assault squad version with the classic square-ish style jump packs, and Castaferrum Dreadnought for Horus Heresy and publish 40k rules for all the 30k units. Then you've got Deimos Rhino/Predator etc back to replace the hideous hover tanks, basic infantry that can be made into Devastators, and everything is good.
>>98324158nigga i dont play this gay ass game im here for tau porn
>>98324158Gotta find an LGS run by boomer grogchuds
>>98324158I havent personally noticed that but I’m not surprised you are experiencing thatIt’s essentially been verified that outgroup prioritization is associated with lower testosterone and it’s not surprising to me at all that warhammer players on average are fat low test slobs who dont take care of themselves and adopt predatory effeminate worldviews
>>98324001Now you'll see why any time I see someone complaining about datasheet bloat for space marines and suggest removing what little's left of the classic units I wanna hit them in the head. The bloat is exclusively caused by primaris.
>>98324140They can't, they can only mitigate the damage by>making them look more gothic and interesting, axe this tacticool and sleek design language>add primaris-scale older armor marks in full, not just helmets>removing the Cawl doohickey from all the weapons because all it does is add visual clutter and make you wonder what the fuck it actually does>squat the most visually offensive models like the Desolation squad, the go kart, the Invictus suit, etc and replace them with shit that actually looks good, like proper Devastators and vehicles that don't look retarded>squat the grav tanks and return to the blessed Rhino chassis because grav tanks for Space Marines are stupid
>>98324166extraordinarily based beyond belief>>98324168harder and harder to findyou can find a boomer run one easily but a grogchud? good luck dude its all old faggots who watch the news on tv
>>98324175>>removing the Cawl doohickey from all the weapons because all it does is add visual clutter and make you wonder what the fuck it actually doeswhat DOES that thing do? its on plasma, melta, bolters... I think I saw it on a fucking chainsword too
>>98324175I actually think grav tanks in concept would have been fine for Marines, they just made them look so fucking stupid. No one would complain if the tanks hovered but actually fucking looked cool. It's a nice way to separate Marines from Imperial Guard, since Marines already had the Land Speeder so anti-grav tech isn't coming out of nowhere for them. It's just like so many things with modern GW, the sculptors can't stick the landing. They have a cool concept on paper and then they turn it into shit.
>>98324171Canceling and exclusion are more than the other side's thing.
Hover tanks
>>98324145I’ll try, but it’ll take a bit, the service in the area I’m in is a bit spotty.suggestions for TQ’s?
>>98324185watchu talmbout willis?
>>98324140By deleting every single primaris model and remaking the classic units in the CSM scale. But that's never gonna happen.>>98324175The only grav tank I'm fine with is the repulsor executioner. There's zero reason why it needs to be a grav tank but the unit itself does have a niche that isn't already covered by an existing, classic tank. Similarly I'm fine with storm speeders now that they aren't trying to replave the basic speeder. I'd say the same for redemptors but they look ugly as fuck.
>>98324151>Crimson GuardsMy beloved
>>98324201Your unpainted modelsAlso, your mum's fat ass
>>98324175Remove every single primaris gun.Bolt rifles, plasma annihilators, heavy bolt rifles, pyreblasters, heavy pyreblasters, desolator launchers. melta rifles... why the fuck do any of these guns even exist? What niche do they intend to cover that isn't already covered by the classic special and heavy weapons?
>>98324212I can dig bolt rifles as a bigger, more powerful version for bigger, stronger troopers. But a bunch of the other weapons feel redundant when heavy bolters, heavy flamers, plasma cannons and blasters, multi-meltas, etc. already exist.
>>98324206nigga said mum lmao
>>98324177What even attracts wokies to warhammer in the first place
>>98324203>Similarly I'm fine with storm speeders now that they aren't trying to replave the basic speeder.I would agree with this if they didn't all look so fucking stupid.>Brother Tinnitus with his head sticking out the top between the missiles>the fucking FIXED FORWARD WEAPON in front of the passenger so he can only fire at something literally directly in front which relies on the driver, I guess he just has a big red button that says "SHOOT" which he presses when they're flying directly towards something???So fucking stupid, every Primaris design feels like this for some reason, like just zero thought was put into it at all. 40k vehicles have never been super practical or realistic but Primaris takes it to another level of dumb that feels like a caricature of 40k.
>>9832422840k is attractive to autists, troonery preys upon autists by offering them social acceptance in exchange for being groomed into being crossdressing faggots
>>98324224>I can dig bolt rifles as a bigger, more powerful version for bigger, stronger troopers.Storm Bolters have been a thing since 1988.
>>98324228aside from the autism, 40k is also an artistic endeavor and that is dominated by leftoids, wokies
>>98324245>Storm Bolters have been a thing since 1988.Storm bolters are just two normal bolters. And power armoured marines been using them forever.
>>98324266So there's no need for bolt rifles.
>old good new badevery day with you
>>98324158? post models
>>98324268>we don't need to make a bigger, more powerful version of a bolter for bigger, more powerful marines capable of using them because we have a weapon regular marines can use fineOk.
>>98324268the need is aesthetic, normal bolters are too small for primaris marines, heavy bolters are too big
>>98324272and you still seeth every day
>>98324240This.And when you put autism and cultural significance in the same area (and like it or not, WH40K is absolutely a culturally-significant property), what you get is political officers showing up with the autism-specific propaganda under their arms, ready to claim some ground for the Imperium of Women and Minorities and the God-Emperor MLK Jr.
>>98324245Unrelated to your post, but how does 'eavy metal get those paler edge highlights like your pic? I'd assume they're using a whiter wash but then there are other parts that are darker. I guess they're using a mixture of the two?
>>98324281where are those models you said you would post?
>>98324289
>>98324294>you personally told me you were going to post your models!real schizoid hours
>>98324272It's the same 5 arguments day in and day out these faggots are allergic to actually hobbying and playing and enjoying themselves
They could just thunder warrior the primaris. Would restore the emperors dignity a bit, "hey emps why didn't you make all the spess marines larger and stronger and more special?" "I did, and they went crazy."
Now that the Ordo Hereticus and Ordo Astartes are on Roboute's ass, how fucked is he?
>>98324306no models then?
>>98324330So you would dox me like last time?!
>>98324330But enough about you.
>>98324327>a primarch will suffer lasting consequencesThat's not how this works, anon.
>>98324112okay you first, we'll all follow after you make yours :)
>>98324357Tf you mean damn near every primarch has been significantly fucked
>>98324327*has the assassins kill the inquisitor in question**crushes the inquistors head with two fingers while writing a TPS report**is a loyal primarch in 40k so nothing of any consequence will happen to him*
>>98324367Not in the course of 40k. All the bad stuff happening to primarchs occurred in the Heresy before the timeline for players started. Primarchs have only gotten stronger and more numerous as the editions have gone on so GW can sell models.
>>98324380Thats pretty based
>>98324178Allegedly on bolt rifles it's some form of auto loader to increase rate of fire. On anything else don't know. Maybe something to do with magnets in the plasma gun? No fucking clue what it does on neo-volkite or melta weapons though. It's just stupid.>>98324179The thing about the Land Speeder is that it was ancient rediscovered tech. I'm pretty sure the grav tanks were just pulled out of Cawl's brainy ass. GW definitely tried to grimdark them after the fact too, with the whole "they work by brute forcing anti-grave tech and pulverizing everything beneath them" but it's still stupid. The Rhino chassis-based tanks will always reign supreme. >Predator Tank here
>>98324212>What niche do they intend to cover that isn't already covered by the classicAbsolutely nothing. they only served to be "new" guns to invalidate the old ones and look bigger in the new models' hands. And of course the new weapons have copyright-friendly names. And I'll never forgive GW for turning Space Marines into human Aspect Warriors with all the mono-weapon squads instead of the superior and tactically flexible squads we used to have.
>>98324327The lore are at the mercy of the kits GW sells.Roboute has a big, expensive and very well selling model for the space marine army.GW doesn't even sell a plastic generic inquisitor model.From this, you should be able to immediately intuit how the conflict will go.
>>98324327If something ever happens it will be like a mini war between inquisition and marines and then will be solved. Like the inquisition vs space wolves one. Besides, Guilliman is not controversial enough to cause a civil war unlike the star child
TIL deathwatch dont have astartes pilots or drivers. They mod humans to become vehicle cyborgs whos body is the vehicle, and they use the cream of the crop from navy veterans to do it. Neat.
Would a bolt-action bolter be too much bolt?
>>98324327Someone should tell this inquisitor that Bobby has the express, psychically screamed into his mind permission of the Emperor to serve as full regent of the Imperium. I'm sure she wouldn't throw such a fit if it was Malcador doing all these things.
>>98324327This is from the Indomitus crusade, and it was successfully resolved peacefully with Guilliman disbanding the greyshields and sending them as reinforcements to the chapters. So... there you go.Completely solved.
>>98324421This really should be all astartes vehicles. A marine's potential utility is absurdly wasted on the job of piloting a rhino.
>>98324426This was before that happened. This was when the Primaris where a legion strength force 1 shotting Imperial threats one by one instead of split up to die as drops in a bucket in a million war zones.
>>98323779>it's 250lb with the backpackwhat the fuck? i could easily bench a suit of power armor? that doesn't seem right
>>98324436a reminder that an actually custodes pilots their vehiclesincluding this shitbox speeder
>>98324436I've been saying it forever, but people come with all sorts of excuses why it has to be marines. I think it should at least be an option. I can understand marines being the primary choice, but in certain situations you could imagine chapter serfs to extend their services to such support roles. At least in indirect combat roles, like piloting transports and fighters (we know legions had some fighter support with human/servitor pilots), but at the same time some fighters like the Xiphon had marine pilots even though originally they were piloted by augmented humans.I, at least, just put cultists operating my CSM vehicles. Makes sense for a warband with limited resources.
>>98324327> We are going to go against the literal son of the emperor and his space marines and all other space marine chapters that recognise his divinity.are the inquisition retarded? The black templars alone would be a headache not even including all the other chapters that would side with guilliman over the inquisition, i cant really see any first founding chapters siding with them
>>98324444Y'know how time is fucky in the warp? Well, equipment stats and other numbers are equally fucked in real space.
>>98324462It's just one random inquisitor with a bee in his bonnet, not the whole organisation. There's a lot of conflicting opinions and radicals with stupid ideas in the inquisition at the best of times.
>>98322860Dont be discouraged anon. It's just summer and people are lazy. I'll comment on your next model.
>>98324456I can see the case for things like landspeeders, where the open-top is necessary for keeping it light, and so anything less than an armoured marine would create an intolerable vulnerability.I can see the case for the Xiphos, where it's taking advantage of marine reaction speed and their tolerance to g-forces or something. It's not a good case when you consider that you could get these same advantages out of something equivalent to a specialised skitarii, but at least there is a case.I can even see the case for marines as gunners, with power armour letting them stick up from the hatch and still be reasonably protected from small arms fire.But for any role inside a fully enclosed tank or APC, this really should be serf/servitor duty.
>>98322860im too lazy to post my models. Also often than not despite all the good comments the one comment critiscising your paintwork will stick with you.
>>98322860I've been checking the general threads daily but haven't seen the June collage yet. Did it not get posted?
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>>98324486what's funny is that, in 30k, the planes used to be manned by humans and then upgraded into servitors
>>98322860Post it in the next thread, I want to see if I missed it and why.
>>98324272That's because when it comes to Space Marines, old ACTUALLY good and new ACTUALLY bad. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
>>98324490It did. Check next thread.
>>98324380>Primarchs have only gotten stronger and more numerousThere used to be 20 of them, now half of those are dead, you are delusional.
>>98324436>have human driver pilot the rhino.>his inferior human senses fail to notice a landmine>lose the 10 generically engineers super soldiers riding in the back
>>98324436I am 100% certain there is lore somewhere that most Astartes vehicles are just piloted by servitors. At most it's one single techmarine with a few servitors assisting.
>>98324427It's not. It's about the 500 Worlds Project, which is very recent and current
>>98324436don't techmarines do that? they don't count as astartes so it's fine
