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Space Knights.....
Valhallan KT when?>>98338763>TQI'd say they were both interesting enough and inspiring enough.Interesting in that it drew me in, and inspiring in that it made me want to make them my own and create for them.
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
Do I try out armoured infantry + designation force or mechanized assault + auxillia?
>>98338780I wish there was a BT upgrade with just helmets like these.
finally got my fucken pics
>>98338787Told you them pics were fakin ass, hopefully they'll reveal them monday
>>98338763>tqI picked the 40k imperial guard as my army because I’m a surface level historical and Military autist and always loved the cannon fodder armies like storm and clone troopers to the humans in avatar.And as silly as it sounds when I was getting into 40k I wanted an army that could be easily repurposed for use in other sci-fi wargames at the time too.
post what you’re working on this edition.
>>98338795I would love to show you my boxes of unbuilt updated grey knights.
>>98338763>TQ That would be Tau and their 7E codex, but not because of the rules. I never played 7E but at that time I bumped into a 7E Tau codex PDF and I loved everything about it. Knowing a bit about the setting already, it still hit me with how sleek, neat and well-designed it was. When compared with CSM or SM codexes, the colours of pages, art frames and page background patterns were simply top notch. I really liked how GW used only the visual design tools to address how different Tau are from other factions, naive and full with of hope for the bright future.People keep seething about Tau being le gundam and animu but for me they are cassette futurism first and foremost. For me, they are the peak analog retro-sci fi, falling into the same category as the Alien or Blade Runner.Also they have my top3 favourite infantry models in the game, on par with Ork Boys and Tac Marines.
>Reposting from last threadAny suggestions on what we could do to make some fun gladiator matches using thew crucible character rules?Looking to do some very small model count games with friends while up camping.
>>98338777Thanks. I will make sure to split them between official GW links and 3rd party links with the next thread.
>>98338804Fair enough.I wasn’t sure where to put the links so I just threw them under community links because they are to help the 40k following community here and lurkers.
>>98338795I got this model a long time ago because it was listed for a steal price on FBM but wanted to make sure I had a handle on painting before taking it on. I'm looking forward to having my own Mr Tickles.
>>98338803Take inspiration from mordheim, necromunda and WHFB, there used to be duels in white dwarf magazines, I remember that from ~early 2010sDuels are usually very boring, either because nothing happens for too long, or because not enough happens.I'd say embrace that it's gonna be luck based. To keep the "Gladiator" comparison: don't think of players as the gladiators, think of them as the spectators.I'd personally forget special abilities and have two main components to it:>picking your fighter & equipmentBuilding your character and seeing how it fares in a duel against many different kinds of fighters. Make so each factions has interesting & unique choices.>Picking the right weapon/moveInstead of shitty gotchas/stratagems, give some weapons 2 profiles, for instance1) hard hitting single attack2) flurry of small attacks that may be tankedThat's gonna give just enough choice for the players.Duels are about gambits and preparation. It's not a grand army strategy or anime fight.Lastly, take inspiration from actual gladiatorial fights: they rarely had duels, sometimes they added big cats. Make the scenario & arena interesting. Keep it simple and meaningful.Hope it helps.
>>98338782>>98338803kill yourself
>>98338763>TQMK.7 helmets look cool as shit and I watched too many Sabaton MVs where it's just trailer footage of Space Marines fighting.
>>98338824That's a really good idea, most of my friends play 30k so i think I'll probably just lift the rules from the duelling mechanics that hh 3.0 has.Not planning on anything too intricate since this is just some casual stuff to do between drinks and the beach.
>TQI liked admech because cool aesthetic (at the time) and I liked the idea of BS3+ and a 4+ save (decent damage, not *too* flimsy).The new models are fucking ass and skittles are chaff now. So fuck GW.Drukhari are my favourite now because meat men and incubi and oh look, BS3+/4+ save.
>>98338837An extra pro-tip: just try stuff and iterate. You can only remove what sucks if you know it sucks.
>>98338840Some of my friends also play SW legion so I was thinking about creating a pool of stratagems for everyone to pick from an instead of CP cost they it would be similar to how the order system works in legion where the more powerful cards generally cost you by having you act later.
>>98338763Found Luetin's vids on youtube. I don't really have an army, but I do collect marines and it's a chapter I made myself.
Would have went to play my first game of 11th, but the heat is murderous and it was bad enough in the place I go to during normal weather (there is no AC).
>>98338855I have 4000+ points of ultramarines because i like blue.
I love plague marines but I struggle to justify bringing them sometimes. Muh durability is bullshit. They are T6, sure, but everything is the game has re-roll hits/wounds now. Otherwise, they have the same stats as normal marines. A squad of 10 costs more points than a 5 blob of blightlords, which will survive a turn of shooting.
>AoS each god has a very distinct aesthetic in their armour and mutations.>Leading to vastly different looking armies when next to each other but still coherent with the other models of their god>40k >Uhhh yeah here's a different paint scheme on your CSM>Yeah loyalist space marines also have different paint schemes just like this, same colours and everything yeah
>>98338803replace the normal combat sequence with this one>both fighting models roll their attacks together, rolling twice the number of attacks than it's normal for them>they roll both to hit and then to wound according to what their normal profile would indicate, but don't roll for saves yet>keep the final sequence of the rolled dice to wound hidden and in order, from leftmost to rightmost>remove all 1s and 6s as critical failures and critical successes (after rerolls if you have them) and keep them aside in two pools, then remove the rolls that would normally fail to wound>the two fighters then reveal their remaining normal rolls one by one, comparing the numbers>every time one of the two fighters roll higher he gets to strike the other at that moment, the opponent rolls its save for that attack>after revealing one pair of dice, one of the two players can declare to use one of the 6s he kept in his dice pool, or use one of the 1s of the opponent's pool of critical failures (the normally revealed dice is used next)>no player can answer to a critical with another critical (no fighting 6 with 6 or 1 with 6, or 6 with 1, or 1 with 1)>if the revealed dice are equal, then it's a parry, unless both players agree to reroll them on the spot>when one player has fewer total rolls than the opponent then it can decide to skip revealing one of his dice, and get hit by whatever the opponent reveals
>>98338888um, bro, your armor marks? get enough autism for that or something to appreciate the imperilization of chaos or something.
>>98338888Crafting different suits of armor independently isn't really the same as power armor, which can be preciously-rare (Especially for renegades long-since cut off from the Imperium's supply) based off specific blue-prints if sometimes outright impossible to reproduce
>>98338763>TQI got oneshot by this artwork forever ago.
>>98338833I swear that Sabaton is become just this generation's Linkin Park.
>>98338888Looks perfectly fine.
>>98338838Sorry I’m pretty new to the game playing side, but when were they not? Was there a time before kataphrons or something when rangers and vanguard were the elites of the infantry?
>>98338949They went from BS3+ and a 4+ save to BS4+ and a 5+ save. Just guard with better guns and hilariously overcosted in 10th.
>>98338953Ah yeah that’s bullshit. Hope they don’t pull the same thing with kabalites in the deldar refresh. Their transport shenanigans seem pretty cool.
>>98338901alternatively instead of keeping the sequence the two players can take a minute to rearrange the order of their dice blind, before beginning to reveal them
>>98338795I have a big shameful grey pile of black templars I hope to get off the ground and painted by the end of the year. Kinda waiting to see how the space marine codex fucks me before I decide on a list.
updated army photo don't have nearly enough room to include all the breachers and drones
>>98338993Were you planning on painting the guns?
>>98338777>Armycrafter for close approximate colors across hobby paint brandsLiterally worthless. Get the Stahly PDF if you want to actually compare the paints.
>>98338791Marines won again, and they already said it's a detachment this week.
>>98338888I don’t understand how this problem exists when it is clear from your pic that it isn’t the case.
>>98339007I don’t have the stahly up to date pdf so I have to make due.I’m sorry anon. Would mediafire work for hosting downloads for the most up to date stahly chart?
>>98338993Are those Tau Imperial Fists?
Why are admech so fucking lame when they could be cool instead?
>>98339019because your notion of cool is tacticool and transformers
>>98339007>>98339013 (me)I have pleaded for the pdfs on the sharethread and WIP.All we can do is hope for the pdfs to be shared.
Its a well-known fact that human women canonically prefer eldar men
>>98339042GET IT?THE JOKE IS SEX!
>>98339008>marines won>reveal is a detachmentPlease say psyche right the fuck nowWe are not padding this shit with detachment holy fucking christ.GW does not only have the outrider and a fucking marine as a revealI sweat to god almighty GW are their own biggest enemy, they are so fucking retarded it's unreal.
>>98339066The other stuff with the codex is just going to be multipart kits of the stuff in the army box. They blew their load on marines early with the Ultramarines expansion last year.
>>98339009Everyone except the fat nurgle guy is a head swap
>>98339087I'd rather see the multipart intercessors than a fucking detachment
>>98338888That blightking is outmoded. They look like this now. And the basic legionary is compared to a chosen instead of a basic warrior.
>>98338888marines are canceronly the death guard are cool
>>98339093Literally any other faction would be over the moon to get another random detachment in an event. Marines are just already mega spoiled on that front with an obscene blessing of options nobody plays already.
>>98338436It's seen as most holy to go to the repentia and lead them personally and serve as an example for them. Sisters want their disgraced members to find redemption and get back to the Emperor's graces. Repentia who do their time and do deeds to prove they're loyal again are welcomed back, and enough canonesses/palatines personally help them that it's one of their special rules in the codex to reflect that.
>>98338888Why is Deathguard armor so fat and wide compared to every other faction? It's not just the mutation but also the armor itself. Aren't they in a standard armor mark?
>>98339118Mk3 is specialized for the event of mpreg.
>>98339112It's just going to be one of the 1dp detachments from the new codex. They're not revealing anything that isn't coming out in the next few months. They definitely overestimated how popular Orks are though. There's a lot more Ork stuff to come than Marines.
>>98339112>Literally any other faction would be over the moon to get another random detachment in an event.You cunts are hyped for RULES? Fucking WORDS??
>>98338781This nigga simian he ain't even no homo thug he straight monkey he got mad drip tho he dressed for icing niggas deadass
>>98339118DG become rotten and bloated inside. So they replace the usual chestplates for their signature cuirass-like plate to contain their guts.Eventually even that cannot hold the shit inside and it breaks/mutates into mouths, tentacles, etc.
>>98339131fr fr I love vanilla ice warriors
>>98339118They are bloated with gas and disease, with their guts falling out of their bellies. This is based on what happens to decomposing bodies
>>98339089>different helmet styles>different back generator designs>different armor detailing>different ornament styles for weaponsI guess this is bait, then
Custodes next week? Custodes next week queen?
>>98338782fuck off already, this shit in every fucking thread
>>98339062LE ECKS DEE XDXD
>>98338787how fuckin big are these models going to be? the bases look huge, which means ive gotta update the current models AGAIN wtf bros
Which head should I go with for m'lady?
Did I hear right that we had an 11e codex schedule leak from somewhere? Was that legit?
>>98339210can't imagine them being bigger than 50mm bases at worst
>>98339214Both are cool. Depends if you feel confident painting the face or not. Also if you want it to be recognizably Malys, her face is more iconic than the veil. If you want it to be your Proxy OC character then go with the veil or a head swap.
>>98339214Go for the cloth is what I would say because I suck at painting faces.
>>98339214veiled
>>98339216a little outrageous given that the current ones are only 32 mm. im guessing they are all going to 3 wounds each like the ones in the boyz squad, probably smaller squads too
>>98339062>THE JOKE IS SEX!
>>98339062Is there any way of doing such a joke right that isn’t an annoying repetition?I see it in so much fanart of 40k and memes I run into here and elsewhere that it gets tiresome to the point where I would prefer 40k flavored dad jokes.
>>98339232What's your favorite 40K flavored dad joke?
>>98339131Has any autist ever made an American city street gang themed imperial guard regiment? What third party resin and stls would work? What would the army units be mostly?>lots of centaur rsv for drive by shootingsWould playing as tempestus scions if they aren’t gonna get sent to the legends grave work because of their tauroxes?
>>98338763>IG has incredibly diverse cultures that all serve, many of them utilizing their own particular style of warfare that suits their environment >A homebrew SM Chapter is called cringe if it has any cultural flavour outside of pre-established onesWhat causes this dichotomy?
>>98339237I don’t know any.I think searching for any dad jokes with a 40k flavor would just return results relating to the Horus heresy and “my favorite fictional space dad primarch can beat your favorite fictional space dad primarch” results.
>>98339241Space Marines are all about the armour.If a culture didn't have cool armour it's not fit to be a space marine chapter.Guard can just be guys in a loin cloth if necessary.
>>98339248I disagree with your opinion.
>>98339241>what causesProbably sensitivity and fear of being seen as insensitive.In fantasy genres and sci-fi genres and especially in warhammer 40k it is inherently “safer” to just reuse European culture and aesthetics because messing it up with mistakes or trying to have a different spin results in less backlash.When you try a different culture with few exceptions and you mess up you get not seen as cringe but as bigoted.So most stay away from deviating from the pre-established cultures presented in warhammer 40k.So then deviation starts to be seen as someone trying too hard to be different and thus “cringe.”Also this is anecdotal for me and homebrewing warhammer 40k there is a weirdness where stupid ideas don’t work until they get an official presentation from gw. Then it appears “okay” after that. I’ve felt it before when I look for proxies and then if there is any canon “precedent” I can take “inspiration” from to use as a starting point. I want my made up imaginary toys to fit in the 40k universe without being a BMW in Lord Of The Rings if that makes sense.It is as weird as it sounds.
>>98339221>>98339216Meganobz themselves are only on 40mms, I struggle to imagine normal Nobz being on something bigger than their terminator equivalent (and they're not being replaced either)
>>98339118They just fat
>>98339214Veil, it's harder to fuck up.
>>98339241I don't mind stuff like like this. Like a marine chapter based on native americans.But I think it can be easy to over do to the point it just looks flanderized/tacky.Your image is enough in my opinion
>>98339241marines are just cringe in general
>>98339248Ah, yes. Of course. Vampires and Werewolves have always been known for their armor.
>>98339287Mephiston's armour is pulled from the 90s Dracula movie.
>>98338763>What are the things that drew you into choosing your favorite 40k army?I am a massive edgelord.
>>98339218Yeah I'll go with the face, the veil might be a cool bit for a conversion.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98338763>TQI wanted to get into 40K in general, so I bought the cheapest troop box I could find, and said, “well, I already bought a box of them, so I guess I’m painting orks now.” now I love them.
>>98338763SLOP OP I'm gonna puke my knees are weak... bros... not like this...
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>>98339369I legit have no words for it
>>98339369>my face when the local troon puts these down during a tournament
>>98339369i should call her...
>>98338924Is that a bad or a good thing?
>>98339019I like the Mechanicum in HH. I feel that GW has a great chance to either add a fuckload of robots to 40k or to add a lot of customization to a tech priest model.
>>98338888point falls flat when you had to use a tzaangor for tzeench because you damn well know their mortals look like roided khorne worshippers painted blue
>>98339413Bad.It's cringe.
>>98338763>TQI like space marines, loyal and traitor, so the amount of choices when it came to finding a chapter or warband I liked was near limitless. I just like big hulking beef abominations are neat.
>>98339019If you don't think radium rifles are the sickest shit in the setting, there's no hope for you
>>98339428Who cares?It seems intentionally cheesy, much like pre-3rd 40K.
I'm trying the app for the first time after not playing since 8th and its giving me an error without telling me how to fix it. I've got the following for a 1000pts game and it says i have 1 too many detachment points:Tau Mont'kaHQ units>Commander Farsight (Warlord)>Cadre Fireblade>Commander in Enforcer battlesuitBattleline>Breacher TeamTransport>DevilfishOther Datasheets>2x Broadside Battlesuits>Crisis Fireknife Battlesuits>2x Pathfinder Team>Riptide BattlesuitWhat is my stupid ass missing?
>>98338993>That many Devilfish???
>>98339447Montka is a 3dp and 1k games are 2dp only.
>>98339463The official ruling is you can always choose to run any single detachment regardless of DP. So you can play a 3DP detachment at any point value.
>>98339241There's a unique dynamic with Native American culture where we really fucked them over and then did a 180 and realized their culture was really cool. So there's a complex there that makes the "cultural appropriation" argument actually have some teeth in that particular case.Brits in GW wouldn't feel it like Americans but they learned their lesson with the forest goblins.
>>98339237Sanguinius couldn't actually see the future. He was just winging it.
>TQRogue Trader aesthetic and being the only chapter which uses hazard stripes on their armour
>>98339475>but they learned their lesson with the forest goblins.mate i dont know what mancunians have to do with this leave em out of it.
>>98339019Because it feels like they've stuck with the same tired, broken design that they've left them with for the past few editions. They could easily flesh out the faction with HH shit which would largely 'complete' them in terms of what they ought to have. Having more techpriest types would be sweet too, where's my secutor?
do iron warriors actually use daemon engines or not?i thought they were anti chaos austicis that just use tanks but on tabletop they are always shown with tons of daemon corrupted shit
>>98339475Read more about the deprivations they committed against us and you’ll see they had it coming. So many tribes aligned with American settlers against a lot of these evil motherfuckers, a lot of which just integrated into our society. You probably see their descendants all the time and just think they’re Italian or Russian or something.
>>98339019Because they are basically a reskin of imperial guard but with less shit and sell based on looks and vibe but are boring as fuck to play.
>>98339241space marines are already flavored, so only certain other flavors can be applied on top and work well, while the guard is way simpler at its core.the real reason why this problem is so pervasive with marines is that gw itself set some terrible examples like with the space wolves, who are one of the worst and most snowflakey shit possible, but dumb people give it a pass because it's official and then use it as justification for their own cringe shit, as it it didn't just mean that both their oc and space wolves are cringe and shit
>>98339501AdMech does feel kind of abandoned as a faction since their weird second wave. Probably just going to get skitarii pity characters from now until the end of time and then rewrite their janky rules again every edition until something sticks.
>theres finally a recent gsc army list on listhammer >tfw 3 rockgrinders, a shit tonne of flaccos>outlander claw / purestrain detachment
>>98339485are you the guy who makes these images or do you get them from somewhere?
>>98338763I would like to fuck around with 40k Imperial Guard, but I know I would hate to paint an entire army of dudes the same way. Is it feasible in the current edition to have a guard force made up of multiple different Regiments? If I rolled up with some Cadian machine gunners, a 10 man section of Valhallans, A Krieg siege cannon, some Catachans, a mob of penal legion cannon fodder , etc. would that be a legal army?
>>98339501they dont even need the HH stuffjust a couple solid cult mech kits and knights actually in codex instead of being garbage soup is all they really need, just a single low effort release wave to stop the faction being oops all skitariiWar Convocation was peak admech and already shows they can be a sick looking army
>>98339514Yeah, it's always funny to point out that stuff like Space Wolves, Black Templar, and even Blood Angels feel like some of the worst fan made mary sues if you ignore their official status.
>>98339517Thulia and the Hastarii kinda make me think they’re abandoning the da Vinci shit. They might have had more models planned that they shitcanned before production. If their codex comes out this edition and they only get one model, I guarantee you there were like 2 or 3 new da Vinci sculpts that got dumpsters. I bet you they had a virtruvian man corpuscarii planned too.
>>98339241Most people are faggots.
>>98339564You know I completely forgot about them. Those two units are actually some of the coolest stuff they've gotten since the first wave. Maybe there's more to come with their next codex but I kind of doubt they'll see much more than a character still. Maybe this one will be less goofy than stilt boy.
>>98339545Knights were originally part of the codex but like daemons they couldn't resist spinning them off into their own faction.
>>98338797Grey Knights are one of those armies I'd like to get into, but since I know they could get refreshed at any point, I won't risk it until they have a whole new line.
>>98339594Just saying that if you like the aesthetic they have now there's no reason to wait. They're only going to get more expensive and a refresh means lots of little changes to their existing look. If you just want them like they are now but at a slightly different scale there are lots of ways the community has learned to modify the existing sculpts and many guides to be found.
>>98339475> realized their culture was really cooSpeak for yourself. Their '''''culture''''' was running around the Great Plains burning the camps of their enemies and taking rival squaws as breeding slaves, while telling stories about their victory in front of a campfire while everyone gets high on the peace pipe. They were fucking animals with scraps of mythology. Said mythology we have today is almost wholesale made up by modern Native Americans to try and sell books to idiotic whites
>>98339540>I was ridin my predator tank>Half a dozen nobles got stuck under my tread>I'm not sure if all of then were dead>but i'll go back again and...
>>98339611>Their culture wasn’t cool, it was [proceeds to describe the coolest thing ever] holy shit taste.
>>98339214veiled then add makeup tears.
>>98339618You clearly wank off to orcs.
>>98338763
>>98339609kinda this. I would get a box or two as reserve for future use the parts to improve the potentially much worse new models.
>>98339381Bizarre feeling to see this tard used as reaction pics on teej
>>98339214If you're good at painting faces (so better than gw) left, otherwise right
>>98339628I feel very much called out.
>What are the things that drew you into choosing your favorite 40k army?I like playing regular humans so I have about 2k points of guard, about mixed 50/50 tanks and infantry. A couple chimeras, a couple dorns, a couple russes, a couple basilisks, a couple infantry blobs, and a couple characters. It's like the most generic you can possibly get.My favorite and best painted army is SoB though, and it's larger at about 5k points. I really like the churchy theme and the ridiculous models like the exorcist and the immolator. Giant church organ guns, I feel like it really shows off how 40k is silly/stupid but cool at the same time. I also love girls being cool and heroic. Some of my favorite models are Celestine, Sacresants, and the canoness because they have cool swords and I absolutely love the condemnor boltgun for the same reason as the silly tanks, a crossbow grenade gun is so stupid but cool at the same time.I also have about 3k points of eldar because they're also T3 and have cool vehicles which is the theme I seem to be collecting. One wraithknight, a couple wraithlords, anda bunch of infantry with a couple prisms and wave serpents. Pretty typical. I like standard lists, like what comes to mind if you pictured what an actual group of this faction would look like.If I were to collect another army it would probably be something totally different since all 3 of my current army are actually kind of same-y. T3 infantry in vehicles. So something like tide orks or tide nids to just use a shovel to push tons of infantry around the table, or maybe something with monstrous units since all my armies combined only have the one wraithkninght for that style of gameplay.I sometimes consider playing salamander marines because they're simply better as in literally powercrept version of sisters doing everything they do but better in the literal sense, but idk. I've avoided playing marines this long....
Szarekh-sama! Tasukete!
How many rhinos do you usually see run in a 2000 point Sororitas army?
Didn't know that Haegr the Mountain of the Space Wolves needs dreadnaught plate to hold his gut inside his armour
>>98339684That makes no sense considering the amount of crazy shit medicine can do in 40k
>>98339693sadly he’s a space anti-vaxxer and believed you can effectively heal any wound by eating berries and mushrooms you find in the woods.
has anyone assembled the yncarne? can you leave the horn off and there's a regular face underneath? or would it just leave half the face missing with a big gap?
>>98339723Looks like the horn is attached to half the face and the hair is attached to the other half the face.
GUESS WHAT FUCKERSI just learned I'm a psyker two weeks ago, and I just got an invite to meet the Emperor, they're sending a ship for me right nowI'm outta this shithole, fuck all of you assholes lmao
>>98339732yeah i cant get a good high resolution look at the face bit. for whatever reason the GW webstore photo has the one sprue with the face on it flipped around so you cant see the front of it. and i cant find any other high resolution photos of the sprue
>>98339749#Blacked&Shipped
>>98339660norns feel so good right now with the +2 strength strat
>Tfw your army looks slightly disjointed because you painted each unit at different points in the yearOh well.
>>98339793Stripe allRepaint allIn one sitting
Made in Sthenelus
>>98339795I'd rather not do that. I'm not a display level painter anyway and the differences aren't really going to matter at play distance.
>>98339793Some of my dudes have brushed volumetric lighting, and some have sponged, but as long as you have consistent edge highlighting, and base them all in the same kind of environment, they still look uniform.You could go back, and instead of repainting everything, just cover up any edge highlights and redo them to be more uniform.
>>98339809Yeah, that's where I'm at right now.You can tell I was trying different techniques on each squad trying to find the one I liked.
>>98338763>TQ:this picture, this picture alone.
>>98339813Well your eyes will naturally be drawn to the edge highlighting, so you can get away with it as long as the edges are the same color and width, and painted on with the same logic.
>>98339793going back to touch up old models is satisfying in its own right
>>98339803You can always repaint one thing at a time: all basecoat, all highlight, etc.Half-joking, but that's why I advocate for subfaction mixing: paint "micro-armies" that are put together as need be.
>>98339241That might be my memory, but more often than not, donut steel marine chapters are mary sues, super special, super unique and just better than the rest, with no real downsides. Marines being popular with younger kids led to a lot such cases, and this caused people to get very sceptical whenever someone tries to present his very own marine chapter, expecting there is some lost primarch archeotec nonsense behind it.If done tasteful, why notSame with unique guard regiments, with the difference that guard players, at least in my experience, do not try to powercreep /their guys/ above everyone else that much, which led to less cringy donut steels. Pic for interest.
Tournament usage in 11th so far. Why are Sisters, Guard, and Blood Angels such shit?
>>98339815im glad breachers finally made this playstyle actually good
>>98339503>do iron warriors actually use daemon engines or not?Yes.>i thought they were anti chaos austicis They're not, they just try and not wholly submit, to varying degrees of success.
>>98339841>Guard down between Grey Knights and DrukhariI thought they were A-Tier right now? Why is their usage so low when their player count is massive?
>>98339841>guardthey shoot on a 4+ and their only way to shoot better is orders that get cleansed by battleshock, they just end up an army of 0 oc and no kill power.not helped by tyranids being very good right now, they do a lot passive battleshock bullying
>>98339809could you post yours, so I can see how it looks for the different paint styles?
>>98339629Fantastic.
>>98339868Don't Guard have a cheap character that removes Battleshock in Commissars? And can't they just play Recon and not really have to worry about killing anything?
>>98339841Emp kids at 7 is really impressive considering they only became an army last year and have like 6 exclusive units
>>98339803same, five of my aberrants look like shit because they're among the first models that I've painted. The 2nd unit of 5 look much better, the abominant even better. I may dunk the first batch into 99% IPA>>98339841>gsc lastbased
>>98339629Hangry Hangry Hippo
>>98339841>TS above CSMYep, they're S tier
>>98339841blood angels had points increases to all melee infantry because one of their detachments made them good. it doesn't make sense to play BA except for one specific list right now. You can do normal space marines and squeeze in another unit with the cost savings.
>>98339841They have 10th edition datasheets that don't play well into the dispositions given to the detachments they are supposed to be played in. Hallowed Martyrs was given Priority Assets, but you typically play that detachment with a bunch of slow moving Sacresant bricks and Morven Vahl, making it hard to get your early primary points. Bringers of Flame was given Purge the Foe, but it's really hard to get Kill More with all the weak ass Dominions and Retributors.Both of these detachments honestly should have their dispositions switched, but that might make them too good, and is probably why they did it this way.
>>98339819>>98339824>>98339825You make good points, anons.Perhaps after I get a good amount of games in with this edition, I will take the time to redo older squads to get them more in line with the newer ones.
>>98339887them having so few datasheets is probably why they’re played so much. it means that when you buy a few battleforces you have nearly the entire army, and you don’t have to buy and switch models dependent on nerfs and buffs>mutilators got nerfed? well, I guess its a good thing my only heavy infantry option is terminators.
>>98339886It can only be used at the start of any phase, so you still get battle-shocked and lose your orders. Also if you get battle-shocked in your opponents fight-phase you will not be able to issue orders in your command phase, because of the way command abilities happen in your command phase. It needs to be fixed so Commissar's can use that ability at any time to counter a battle-shock.
>>98339841>Imp Knights and Chaos Knights feel the exact same>Huge gulf in viabilityWhy?
>>98339861>I thought they were A-Tier right now?They are most likely the worst army right now.
>>983398412W SISTERS PLEASE JAMESYOU CAN GET RID OF THE MIRACLE DICE YOU CAN'T BALANCE AROUND IT
>>98338763https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfV_Doo9UHU>I miss my regiment, Gaunt
>>98339861Big Big Reasons are.1.) They made infantry more expensive in the MFM2.) All guard units are priced and statted based on what they can do with orders, chiefly Take Aim!3.) You do not become un-shook in your command phase anymore, you basically have to keep taking battle-shock tests every command phase. On top of that, the way they ordered events in the command phase. You Issue Orders, then take Battle-Shock Tests (fail and lose your newly issued order,) and after that you can use command abilities like the Commissar's Summary Execution to remove battle-shock.
>>98338763>His ambition was to build Warhammer up into a recognizable, and marketable brand name rather than just one of many fantasy settings that existed on peripheries of D&D. He wanted to capitalize on Warhammer’s distinctive feel, and make it memorable and instantly recognizable. To properly market that uniqueness he needed an original monster that could be put on book covers and merchandise. Something akin to the Beholder: a creature that is unmistakable D&D trademark. And so, he came up with Zoats: a centaur like space lizards heavily inspired by of Poul Anderson’s Polesotechnic League stories. They looked like this:>Most Games Workshop designers hated his idea with a passion. Zoats were goofy, awkward and didn’t really fit with the dark fantasy theme of the setting. Ansell was adamant about putting them in, unless someone could come up with a better idea. Graeme Davis along with Jes Goodwin and Tony Ackland teamed up to rescue Warhammer from the four legged goofball lizards by creating more Warhammer worthy monster.BUT I LIKE ZOATS AND HIVE FLEET COLOSSUS
>>98340008>Graeme Davis along with Jes Goodwin and Tony Ackland teamed up to rescue Warhammer from the four legged goofball lizards by creating more Warhammer worthy monster..which was what?
>>98340008i don't hate it, a little goofythey look like a good space ogre stand-in
whats the idea behind aberrants costing as much as terminators?these guys seem wildly expensive, literally 2x the cost of actual genestealers. a single unit with their attached character costs as much as an imperial knight
>>98340008I had no idea zoats were meant to be the posterboys. to be honest, if my coworker who insists on rocking a mullet and wife beater came up to me with pic related and pitched the idea of making these guys the face of warhammer fantasy, I’d probably dislike it too.
>>98340021it was the fimir, who although were definitely less goofy, flopped even harder than zoats did. here’s the full blog.https://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2014/04/07/bizarre-bestiary-fimir/
>>98340061Interesting
Why is everything disgusting but never sexy?
>points>a single Zoat is 75 points>unaligned>can be in any army>but at only 250 points for a 1000 point game
>>98340061>For competitive WFB players they were more than useless: they were a literal waste of money. The only people who would bought them would were collectors or hobbyists more interested in painting and diorama design than actual tabletop gaming. Where are all the people that claim Warhammer started to be a competitive game only around the 5th edition?
>>98339837Those are nice penal legionaries, simple but effective. Do they have autogun variants?
>>98338888I love the 40k Khorne Berzerkers. Sucks that the Eightbound and Slaughterbound looks so shit.
>>98340061sometimes its okay to just let a bad visual design go into the dustbin of history. there's really very little worth saving with fimir and zoats
>>98338763>TQwhen I was first getting into the hobby as a kid Inquisitor somewhat recently come out. got lost in the sauce reading pages of the rulebook for it whenever I visited the GW store even though I was at the time only into MESBG.got back into the hobby specifically because of the Ashes of Faith kill team box being the exact kinda stuff that stuck in my mind for years.
>>98340092That's why you print red butchers or buy third party proxies
Just spent way too much on 20 metal inquisitorial stormtroopers ama Also what fucking edition are we on now I last bought elysians back in 2016 and I was playing line 6 or 7th ed Anyway I have like 4 Valkyries now so we balling AND flying tonight queen.
>>98340096Fimir are great anon
>>98340092I wish whoever was the design director or whatever for CSM didn't have a stick up their ass that everything needs to be big Liefeld flesh golems. Anon earlier said that CSM are about the armor, so let the armor lead the designs with Khronates being like a mirror of Blood Angels armor with baroque styles taken to extreme.
>>98339118No Chaos Marine is wearing standard power armour anymore, it's all been mutated in the Warp for 10k years plus replaced with bespoke pieces made by Dark Mech or scavenged from other Legions or whatnot.
How common is it for people to put imperial agents in their space marine lists?
>>98340136assassins are very common.. others not so much.
>>98339241Marine chapters aren't supposed to be just "X thing in space", they're supposed to be X thing plus Y totally different thing, through a filter through a filter through a filter of 10k years of drift. People get called cringe when they make a Space Marine Chapter that's just like "these are native american Space Marines". Dark Angels were initially native american combined with arthurian legends combined with themes of gothic horror literature and Catholic medievalism combined with industrial aesthetics.
>>98340122why do 40k and AOS khorne models look exactly the same.
>>98340139I'd like to put grey knights in my blood ravens army even if it's bad, but they're all so unique and interesting
>>98339999they should be cheaper instead of tougher but that will make buying and painting the horde of bolter bitches even more laborious
>>98340143Because the aesthetic mogs the other three gods so hard they didn't need to make a second one
>>98340090Just lasguns:https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/penal-legion-infantry-squad-modular-kit
>>98339841>Knights that highDamn I underestimated them perhaps
>>98340112they're awful. one of GWs worst designs. literally the only people i ever even see talking about them are the few obsessed contrarian edgelords on 4chan who cant let it go because they want to be the guy who likes the thing nobody else does and " lol le rape memes"
>>98339999>2W SISTERSThat's fucking retarded
>>98340026Idk about current rules because I wont play fake editions like 10th/11th but in real editions they were tough as nails with feel no pain AND damage reduction and hit like a truck with the ability to literally one round a Knight in close combat, plus Cult Ambush as a delivery system
>>98339999Sisters aren't marines. They don't deserve 2 wounds.They will only get 2 wounds once they get genetic modifications and become 9ft tall amazons that can deadlift a tank by their lonesome.
>>98339841Tournament USAGE not win rates. Who cares?
>Bro, you paint those gay ass little figurines?How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>98340112their only gimmick (rape) is already done better by beastmen.
the best way to make well armored but low toughness units like sisters and aspect warriors not feel so flimsy is to go back to the old AP system
>>98340169no anon there weird lizard monster look is great, just because you're sulky about their Lore doesn't diminish the design work that went into them
>>98340196usage is a good temperature gauge of what people think is good. its essentially a metric of public confidence. especially in 40k where players are a lot more likely to change armies as the wind blows compared to warhammer fantasy or aos where people just bring what the fuck ever regardless of if its good or not (except for the small percentage of extreme waacfags in fantasy like the guys who brought 3+ cathay balloons, but they're an outlier)
>>98339668Most lists I see only have 1-2 battleline squads as action monkeys and they are often split by 1-2 immolators. 1 squad with 1 immolator is very common, but 2 is also reasonable.As for rhinos, I do typically see one to ferry Sacresants, and then occassionally also one to ferry repentia if you are running those. So most lists will have typically one, and sometimes two. Two squads of Sacresants is popular, although after the points cost increase I think people have gone back to one often, at least from some first looks at lists online.2 Castigators, Vahl with her squad, Celestine, and Dominions also also very popular. Though I'm not sure if some of these will change with the new edition, I'm going by 10th edition.
>>98340213god damn this looks worse than i remember
>>98340204>'Bro, you paint those gay ass little figurines?'>God, I wish
>>98340204Huh who are you?
>>98339841These people put it well>>98321267>>98321333
Does anyone ever bother to buy these Diorama books?
>>98340088That's always been revisionist cope
>>98340155SadCheers for the link>>98340204Look him up and down, with either a light disgust or apathy. Leave a ~3 to 5 second silence. Go back to your business and say:>I'm not your bro, faggot.
>>98340328i like pictures :D
>>98340187>They will only get 2 wounds once they get genetic modifications and become 9ft tall amazons that can deadlift a tank by their lonesome.I'm fine with this as well.
>>98340026You can recycle them, hence the points cost. Using 4RP to bring back a unit of 5 is cool. 5 lads + Abominant always start in reserves for me. My Abominant hit a Vindicator for 13W the other day, good lad..
>>98340328This has a lot more merit than those books that are just store photos desu
>Harlequins are the true elites, they're canonically way stronger than CustodesMeanwhile, the only named Harlequin in the game:>Kyganil of the Bloody Tears>M8, T3, S6+, W3, LD7+, OC1, InSv4+>A6, WS2+, S4, AP-2, D1, Precision
>>98340416Is this loss?
>>98340204>Yeah it's fun and relaxing :)
>>98340148If GW has their way every army will be a horde army so I guess that's the way it'll have to be.
>>98339423Tzeentch doesn't have armored mortals in AoS, only Marauders
>>98339467Untrue in 11th edition
>>98340218The top 3 are literally just the armies in the previous two edition starter boxes, anon. They're getting used more because everyone has the models, not because they're the strongest.
>>98340373>>98340328The codexes would be better if the model photos were more like dioramas.But James likes saving money and not giving hobbyists ideas to look into modeling and painting techniques outside the citadel ecosystem.
>>98340560It was released that way but it's gonna change soon with the updated rules.
>>98340639Which will be a temporary change until armies get their updated detachments. There are no 3dp detachments in the new Marines codex, it's all going to 1s and 2s.
How do krieg soldiers behave individually? Are they more like automaton fanatics or do they banter with each other and stuff like that? Do they feel fear when fighting some big monster but they just overcome it or are they just so brainwashed they keep shooting without thinking? I recognize I know nothing about them.
>>98340676they're normal human soldiers
>>98340676they are autistic fighting (and dying) machines that are just as brainwashed as marines but in a more retarded way
>>98339843carbines never got their day in the sun.
>>98340676They're people Don't trust the memes
>>98340112>>98340205fimir are outclassed in the rape department by beastmen in the same way that dark eldar are outclassed in the torture/rape department by emperor’s children. fimir females are naturally sterile, and so therefore its a biological necessity for them to have sex with other species, and because other species don’t normally consent to fucking reptile cyclops monsters, its most often forced. similarly, dark eldar require torture to survive or else their soul will get eaten by slaanesh. this means they both NEED to be evil, or else their civilization will collapse. this is why beastmen and emperor’s children are infinitely cooler because they don’t need to be evil to survive, they do it purely for love of the game.
>>98340690>>98340707Which is it
>>98340755>similarly, dark eldar require torture to survive or else their soul will get eaten by slaaneshit's literally an addictin, but one that empowers them physically at the cost of their soul and which has no upper boundif deldar didn't think rape torture and excess were cool there's other ways they could try to protect themselves from Slaanesh. Starting with abstaining from things that empower her
>>98340765>they’re normal human soldiers who are autistic fighting (and dying) machines that are just as brainwashed as marines but in a more retarded wayboth
>>98340707guard players wishing their dudes were marines is so precious.
>>98340795They throw such funny fits when you remind them they're just there to make marines look good
>>98340795I actually don't like dkok because I think they are a caricature but the training and hypno therapy go through is similar to marines
>>98340795peak functional illiteracy on display here.
>>98340817uh oh guardNPC melty
>>98340770>>98340755Yeah, there's no way Emperor's Children are better at torture than Dark Eldar who have a competition driven torture-based economy. At autistically perfecting battle and duels? Maybe. But torture is literally their raison d'être.
>>98340770>her
>>98340842nta but why do you always do this?
>>98340842this ain’t even a faction thing, you just read a sentence and misunderstood it.
>>98339099Here's your almost up to date one. 40k doesn't even look that bad if you facotr in certain other games
>>98340416He's too busy in banging Stern, be patient
>>98340855unironically it’s provably a guardfag who wants to make people who criticize guard look retarded.
>>98339214Paint the veil translucent you coward.
>>98340884That's the left head with the invisible veil
>>98340755>dark eldar are outclassed by ec>lmao I listen to my music too loud that's way edgier than turning motherfuckers into living walls in constant agonyI fucking hate chaosfags so much
>>98340855>alwaysschizo>>98340856not even the guy you're replying to, YOU misread it, they're for wannabe marinefags
>>98340865The tzaangor should really be a kairic acolyte.
>>98340909>they're for wannabe marinefagsdeath korps? kind ofguard as a whole? no
>>98340865You're still comparing warriors with chosen
>>98340918kairic are cultists, not warriors or chosenthe fact is tzeentch doesn't have a warrior equivalent yet
>>98340924The Nurgle Model is a new Blight King, which would basically be a Chosen
>>98340931and it's being compared to warriors, not chosen
>>98340909>erm, marines own the concept of brainwashed soldiers actually
>>98338993Brown parts look like shit, both figuratively and sometimes literally.
>>98340943(you) tried
if space marines win the vote again tomorrow despite borderline getting sabotaged with a named ultramarine it'll be really funnychances are they're rigging it to end in a draw though
>>98340957>(you) tried
>>98340967How does that shit work anyway? Does winning warrant an early release of the stuff or we will never see what they had if the Orcs had win?
>>98340881That may actually be it.But it isn’t necessary.
>>98340973thankfully it's just seeing the models early as opposed to literally never getting themI'd assume literally nothing about the schedule is actually changing considering ork's codex is coming up, it just decides whether we get to see shit like if we're getting a new badrukk model, or if we get to see new nobz or lootas
>>98340973It;s very rare that they sit on models for years after they've been designed and produced. Anything they reveal is already firmly locked on the release schedule and probably already in warehouses globally or at least shipping containers on the way.
>>98340980>it's just seeing the models early as opposed to literally never getting themit would be very funny thobeit, if they designed a bunch of miniatures, spent however much it costs to make the mold for them, producing thousands of kits, and boxing them ready to ship out, and just decided to dumpster everything because they lost a popularity contest. would have given the orks a little more incentive I think.
I like orks :D
>>98340865
>>98340662They might bring back 3DP ones as Grotmas or something, but yeah it doesn't seem any codexes are going to have them.
>>98340997>GW assumes Orks will sweep the votes and starts with a character meant to attach to a new unit they'll reveal in the later weeks>Orks lose the next three weeks>tfw
>>98339974destrier and their funny detachment where you draw a line currently is interpreted that from any point of the objective building so you get a line that covers 40% of the field. Meanwhile chaos knights are still scraping by on infernal lance
I have acquiered a defiler. Which version should I paint it as?>Slaaneshy theme for EC>Khorne /WE>Nurgle/DG>Tzeentch/TK>Nightlords themed
>>98341031GW don't realise Orks are a bottom half popularity faction now.
>>98340973just early reveals, and bragging rights, but considering how gw can't devise a campaign that doesn't go into a landslide* I guess it's not much of a right*leviathan got it right: only people who get the box with the 2 factions get to vote, and was in fact the only close and unexpected one.another campaign that was at the very least entertaining was malign portents for aos, where the entire community voted on a cyoa where the options were rarely if ever about propping or undermining a specific faction but wide strokes about the setting at large, which created some fun moments, even if it was railroaded at the very end and each option won by a landslide simply because everyone voted the wildest and most destructive out of the options every single time.a mixture of the two approaches could create something like>buy a kill team boxset and vote on how the canon story for it goes>the various kill team boxsets results link together into the overall season>people who don't buy the box can vote on neutral variables
>>98341046Did Orks not get the same massive popularity boost that Tyranids/Necrons/Deathguard did from being starter factions?Might we still be waiting to see that play out since new players are just ordering starter sets now and haven't built or painted all of them yet?If not, what was different this time?
>>98341011the 40k cult legion books are so fucking weirdly low effort. like, here you have this perfect money printer machine opportunity for GW to make flavors of marine, chosen, terminator, possessed, havoc, raptors, bikers, etc but for some reason they only do like 2 units per army. deathguard have terminators and marines but no chosen, no possessed, no bikers, no raptors, no havocs. khorne has marines and chosen/possessed combo but no terminators, no bikers, no raptors, no havocsslaanesh has marines, chosen, and havocs but no raptors, no terminators, no possessed, no bikerslike, what the fuck were they doing putting out 2 model kits a range and calling it a day?
>>98341066chaos marines don't sell anywhere close to normal marines and gw is too autistic and retarded with finances to allow cross compatible units or proper upgrade sprues
I don't want to go the the local GW store just to submit an entry for the 4th round.>Mfw I voted SM each time so far and haven't even played any games of 11th yet to make it at least a legitimate vote.Maybe I will go down to the store, just in case. Ork humpers don't deserve anything good.
>>98340969>guardfag>calling anybody a redditorlol!
>>98341075vanilla CSM are literally the second best selling faction in the game, with CSM as a whole approaching loyalist marines if you count all divergent legions and generic altogetherWorld eaters are in the top five most played armies despite having nearly no units and one of the lowest winrates in the game three editions in a row, same with DG but they've got a wide range and are periodically decent on the tabletop too
>>98341085>anon getting jumped in the LGS parking lot
>>98341011Skullwhatever from End Times can't possibly live much longer, can it?Even somwthing as basic as its shade of red doesn't fit with AoS Khorne
Anyone got a download of that aeronautica imperialis animation yet?
>Think that people might just be overstating how strong Fusillade Librarian with 10 Sternguard is>Watch a few batreps running the brick>Every time, it just obliterates the target with no interaction from the opponentI can't tell which part is truly the culprit here.Fusillade itself is good, giving the Sustained Hits and the Anti-Vehicle and Anti-Monster 5+. So Mortal wounds are decently likely.Oath of Moment letting you re-roll hits encourages fishing for Sustained Hits.But then Sternguard have their re-roll wounds on Oath of Moment targets. This makes the MW even more likely, especially if you generated extra hits by fishing for Sustained.Is it the fault of the Enhancement? Is it the fault of Sternguard? Or is it the fault of Oath of Moment?
>>98341075they may not sell as well as the boys in blue but any given chaos cult army still probably sells just as well or better than any xenos army, and those armies all have massive ranges.some of this could be alleviated if they just gave the cult armies access to all the core units as well but they refuse to do that, so they are stuck with micro faction ranges made up of 6 model kits like this is 1st edition age of sigmar or something.
>>98341085>voted SM each time so far and haven't even played any games of 11th yet to make it at least a legitimate vote.Devious.Machiavellian even.Will this be the norm for all future related 40k events?
>>98341124reroll spam and devastating wounds were a mistake
>>98341138I agree. I think fishing for sustained / lethals / devs is cringe so I don't do it even when the math says I should.
>>98341124it'll fall off when the new marines codex comes out and replaces Oath. no way they didn't realise how busted the combo is, it just won't matter in a few months.
>>98341164I do hope the Codex replaces Oath, but I hope we don't lose Librarius. I love Librarians and already owned multiple before 11th came out so I'd like to keep it as one of my 1 DP options.
>>98341131>but any given chaos cult army still probably sells just as well or better than any xenos armymaybe in gw's dreams
Brothers! I am back, and no longer a heretical fool. Long was I without the funds to wet my brushes with the paints of truth, but now I am considerably stable with an abundance of income! It has been years since I painted, but to convey how well I was, I was commissioned back during 2012-2018 before shit hit the fan for me. I fear that when I order some fresh paint and brushes and begin, my skill will be considerably not as brilliant as it once was. What should I first practice my hand at? I refuse to touch space marines, I've painted enough of those to last me multiple lifetimes.
>>98341194Based
>>98341194Cringe
>>98341194I can't muster any feeling towards marines
>Went to the local GW store>It's the Warhammer store nowI thought that was a joke. The new logo looks like shitAnyways I have a dogmata now... are they any good on the tabletop?
>>98341183Hopefully the skills will come back to you quickly like learning to ride a bike again.I only learned to basecoat and wash. Not even drybrush.And I haven’t painted in a long time.Maybe wip can be better if the never forget belief regarding bike riding is not true for miniature painting.>>98341194Is there an in lore pragmatic reason for why the marines malevolent are the way they are or is it just that their assholes and suspected to be iron warriors because geneseed dictates whether one is naughty or nice?
>>98341183purple prose and refusal to paint marines gives me eldar vibes. I think you would like them.
>>98341244They're just pragmatic assholes that will complete their mission no matter the cost to other parties. The memes take it far, and make them really fun to shitpost about, but overall they're just cold pragmatics. They don't have a lot to justify why they are the way they are, they're just natural assholes.
>>98341244>Is there an in lore pragmatic reason for why the marines malevolent are the way they areYeah they're space marines.
>>98341031>starts with a character meant to attach to a new unit they'll reveal in the later weeksThe... mek? We already know they can attach to stuff we've already seen, like Boyz.
>>98341244>lore pragmatic reasona lot of the depictions of the marines malevolent is mostly fanon. they don't take any pleasure in committing warcrimes, and they aren't reckless idiots accidentally getting others killed either. the reason they do it is because they're zealots for the emperor and they're extremely frugal with wasting lives needlessly. this is shown in their first appearance on armageddon where they saw it as a waste to potentially get guardsmen/marines killed in order to kill a couple thousand orks raiding a camp full of non-combatants (as in, cowards who refuse to kill the xenos as any emperor loving man should), and so chose to bomb half the refugee camp from a distance instead which led to the only allied casualties being useless eaters.
>>98341289He's probably implying about the new Ork bikes that leaked awhile ago.
>>98341244>Is there an in lore pragmatic reason for why the marines malevolent are the way they areThey're very under-resourced for a reason that's never been explained. Because they're poor and can't replace their shit very easily, they're less inclined to put themselves at risk, and are willing to resort to underhanded methods to acquire stuff they need.
>>98341315I mean, they're not going to do a second reveal for them after they were forced to do an early one, but besides that I believe we were meant to have already known about the bikes by now anyways given they appear in the pre-painted terrain promo video, which presumably would have been revealed for the first time in the summer preview because it tackled the starter sets that have that terrain packed in. I think the summer show Ork reveals was supposed to have been the trukk, Mek, warbikers, and *possibly* the warboss as well, though he had no video teaser to accompany him when they did the leak reveal instead so possibly not.I really do wonder what's going on in the heads of the people voting for Space Marine wins, are they in sunk cost territory at this point? Like do they think there's still cool reveals yet with the stinkers they got in the first two weeks or what?
>>98341360People just really don't like Orks. They're the dumbest part of the setting. Most players would rather see a space marine win even if they don't play the faction.
>>98341273>perty and mortWho’s the father?Are mm another one of those totally not actually traitor legion descended chapters?Why are IW so popular in this category too?
I'm tired of HFYfags
>>98341257based, I like your way of thinking, anon.
>>98341401>Why are IW so popular in this category too?easiest way to explain why a chapter is full of general autistic assholes who have no clear reason or motive behind why they're like that.
>>98341408I'm tired of you.Yes, you in particular.
>>98341360its all about demographics and numbers. for 10th it was only people who got the leviathan box, so it was marines vs tyranids players, both of which have a motive to see their shit, but both are about equal in numbers based on them buying the set.now its free for everyone, so any imperium and chaos (marine) player will naturally tilt to want marines while any xenos player that isn't orks will be split over wanting either marines or orks to show first because neither are part of their team.
Can someone please help me understand the tau markerlight system and how it interacts with pathfinders?From the way I read it, your units can either be guided or observers. Observers can shoot, but gain no bonuses. Guided gain bonuses but cannot spot. So does the pathfinder special rule let them get the bonuses of being a guided unit while still being able to act as an observer (provided they attack the unit that they spotted and not another spotted unit)?
>>98341486>So does the pathfinder special rule let them get the bonuses of being a guided unit while still being able to act as an observer (provided they attack the unit that they spotted and not another spotted unit)?yesthey get the guided bonus if they shoot the unit that they spotted
>>98339454>two transports >two tanks dunno seems the right amount to me
>see a cool model>WOW I should paint that army>see a cool model>WOW I should paint that armyhow do I stop this cycle bros
>>98341510You paint the army, anon.
>>98341510It can only happen a maximum of 24 times, anon. Just let it happen.
>>98338763Who would not only generate guard regiments but make half of them black? Even the nazi regiment and their yarrick are african.>>98339241Marines ironically have completely standardised armour despite being le heckin medieval knights with mismatched historic armour sometimes older than their chapter.To have your own doods you need to alter the entire appearance.People tolerate something like the Vostroyans and think their hats are great. People don't generally tolerate Space Wolves or Blood Angels, and Dark Angels despite being the minimum deviation look cringe. Black Templars are the only good option.>>98339475>native americans>hostile monsters that hate civilisation>(if including aztecs, literal chaos worshippers)>culturally genocided, but remembered>hating white achievements becomes popular>it's taboo now to talk about injuns beyond whitey bad>can't even use the cool parts>when people do, it's somewhere between redditor and johnny depp nonsense, and shamed>cultural genocide complete, everyone mvst worship the monokulture
>>98339241marines are for fags, what else is new.
>>98340142But Black Templars are literally just "X thing in space" and people still think they're cool. What is the "Y totally different thing" of the fanatical crusader larp chapter who use the cross pattée as their heraldry?
>>98340204Unironically rape him. Its a dominance thing.
>>98338763>TQ I don't care much for named characters, I already came up with creatures similar to tyranids as a kid, I think monsters are cool, they're easy to paint
>custard codex soonishon some level i wanna be done with the models for now but i don't know if they won't force 5-6 models per squad to match sodalities since the current arrangement of getting a free fag with every box to make a shield captain or blade champ seems way too good
>>98341510i dont know i have like 12 armies
Dumb question, there's no generic chapter master statblock with wargear options is there? or am I blind?
>>98341638Surely new sisters of silence this time, or at least rules to use the vehicle from HH...
Has anyone here played a game of 11th edition yet?
>>98338795Votann too. I'm not happy with my colour scheme but I'm also not finding anything I like more and also I'm bad at painting. Doing the pioneers is giving me lots of grief
>>98341680lol nothe horus heresy isn't done with cuntstodes either, they're still missing the terminators, the guys with bolters and the flyer, that's another wave
>>98341682Yes why
>>98341687Is it FUN? Do you prefer it to 10th?
>>98341683That looks like shit anon wtf>>98338795This isnt /wip/
Thinking about making my homebrew chapter a vaguely chinese/japanese imperial fists successor with a one sided rivalry against white scars.Should I make them chaos or loyalist?
>>98341675Hasn't been since 7th
How many people here have one of those 40k Joytoy action figures? Are they decent quality? I was thinking of picking one up
>>98341698don't post all your shitposts in one post you'll run out too fast!
>>98341704They're alright, they usually suck at painting their faces but most of them come with helmeted optionsNot the most groundbreaking paintjobs but they're far better than the mcfarlane ones
>>98341683Painting yellow over black is never going to go well
>>98341700I believe deciding the army is the first step before creating your fluff. Else you're just writing a wiki without any models.
>>98341683embrace pink primer if you wanna be doing yellows, or at least a white one
>>98341683>>98341716yeah as painful as it is, its better to go black over yellow, just very carefully. i'm learning that too.
>>98341695Not to the point of FUN but certainly better than 10th
>>98341718I’m too lazy to write fluff beyond like 1 or 2 sentences to convey the gist of the themeAnyways I think the concept could work with either chaos or loyalists and I can’t decide which is better/would allow for a more thematic build
>>98341683As anons said.Yellow requires a lot of (water/whatever) thinned layers and even then it's easy to get a chalky surface.If you do a white prime you can then use contrasts, which for yellow might be preferable if you do it last or don't make mistakes easily, as it's faster especially for an entire army of models and provides an even coat.
>>98341700chaos and make them tzeentch worshippers.
>>98341686*Sad SoS noises*
Would people play the Hammerfall Bunker if it could deploy on top of enemy infantry and crush them upon landing?
>>98341698I know>>98341716>>98341721>>98341724>>98341741Its grey primer with yellow for the amour and green for the jumpsuit.The black was for the inside of the backpack unit.I need to start over from scratch again.
>>98338763>What are the things that drew you into choosing your favorite 40k army?I started my Orks going into 5th edition as they received their range update. I'd had some history with 40k a few years prior to that and had misgivings about playing them because of how badly mismatched a few key models in the range were, which were resolved with that update. I liked the mental image of ork vehicle fleets, which hadn't measured up to the model representation until then, which is rather ironic given that what's really driven my enthusiasm for the faction since then is seeing what that lack of support in the vehicle range had driven the ork hobby community to achieve. I think they're the best army to collect for personalized, creative building, with a relatively low hobby skill floor needed to get started but as high of a ceiling as you could want.
lol, Art of War won a GT with Guard just to prove a point to the Guard community after their silly boycott shitdit and the mods are doubling down that AoW is wrong and misrepresenting Guard and deleting any references to their winning list posted on the Guard subreddit.
>>98341750I love the kit bashed siege gun.
>>98341743I had another idea for tzeench marines based on picrel, maybe I’ll combine them
>>98341753Pathetic lol. why are HFY autist always the pussiest humans.
>>98341760Ohh and I could do teracotta warriors as rubric marines
>>98341767Nice idea I like it.
>>98341756Thanks, it's hardly a kitbash, actually, I used minimal parts from any kit, 40k or no. It's pretty much just crew + some track assembly from an Abrams and some 3rd party tread recasting, and a handful of other bits like repurposing flyer bombs into artillery shells.
>>98341749maybe one more thin coat and then a wash before you give up on it. but i'd definitely recommend white primer over grey for yellow.
>>98341783even more kino.
>>98341753You know, maybe comp players aren't so bad...
>>98341753Are Guardfags still whining that they can't just leafblow people off the table like 5e?
>>98341821I believe they were complaining that guardsmen cost points
What faction gets the most trans players?
>>98341753what was the list?also i gotta say the worst experience i ever had at an event was a teams event against 2 guard players
>>98341839space marines, both by total numbers and proportions
>>98341839Marines.
>>98341839No trannnies in my hobby, we're all CIS females
>>98341852Yeah, CIS:C: MaleI:S:
>>98341839>3 trans players at my lgs>tfw all play orks
post eldar kitbashes
>>98341859Yeah, CIS: Confederacyof Independent Systems
>>98341839trannies don't actually play or hobby, they just post on Twitter and claim things which normal people then cede to them for some reason
base and legs for my second saturnine dreadknight conversion. do I hide a nurgling under the partially collapsed platform?
>>98341839>hmm nobody's shitposting right now and im bored of all this nerd talk, i better post about trannies to farm (you)s and feel includedfuck off
>>98341870
>>98341876anons… are we the trannies?
>>98341895This thread is a dedicated CIA psyop to get you to transition. There are no organic posters here, it's all a fabrication. I don't have much time left, you have to find a way to
>>98341869as someone who likes orks :D that’s grim. do their orks look cool though?
>>98341876they definitely do get involved in the hobby, i reckon just about everyone in this general who goes to an lgs and plays games have seen at least one doing the same
>>98341898>one army is half painted, mostly a pink scheme>another one is heavily kitbashed, the paint job is pretty poorno idea about the 3rd
>>98340328I buy it so I don't have to take pictures of the dioramas myself
>>98341900one at my LGS sold some NOS kits to me for 50% off, so they’re chill in my book. >>98341909>pink based>heavily kitbashedbased
>>98341839The stereotype is Chaos Knights or Death Guard, and, well, my LGS's troon plays Chaos Knights.
A new chapter just dropped
>the i like orks poster was a tranny all along
>>98341194Rest in piss
>>98338795Will be on Orks for a while based on the contents of the starter box and what's rumored to come next.5 Boyz down. Onto a character next before doing the next 5.
never ask a salamander how many defenseless eldar children they burned alive
>>98341839why, are you trying to meet cute wonderful trannies?
>>98341953I feel hurt you think I would try to underhandedly support trannies while also being one. at least call me a tranny lover or something.
Since the 30k custards refresh is seemingly being advertised for use in 40k halfway into it, does this put the Venerable Contemptor and Land Raider 'at risk' to Legends? I imagined the two were more or less stopgap measures for plastic walkers and transports in the first place, but the models are still being made.While not exactly my first choice when plastic Telemons are arriving, the revive combined with fight-on-death via Solar Spearhead sounds funny, and I imagine the Coronus is a lot more niche and more cumbersome, that thing is fucking Spartan-sized.
>>98338795Since my armageddon building work is done for now and I'm just waiting for the weather to not be a scalding, steaming shithouse so I can prime all of it, I am painting snakebugs.
Black or blue armor? I originally wanted black armor and grey fatigues but I'm starting to doubt myself and so I made a quick test with blue armor, kantor blue with a nuln oil wash. What do we think I should go with? I like that the blue really pops and makes the unit look like something out of Starcraft but it's definitely less grimdark than the black armor
>>98341843https://listhammer.info/list/16bf7c052d929f1e6f
>>98342054I prefer blue.
>>98342054blue is way more fun imo, and unfortunately black has the tendency to look like a void if you don’t highlight the right pieces, so I’d go with blue. but while on the topic of black and blue cadians, maybe consider painting black armor with blue camo like the cadian 122nd
>>98342054If you go with an RTS army palette, also paint the base trim accordingly
what army should I play if I want to pass as a tranny?
>>98342057>mishmash of every regiment in the codex and unrelated charactershorrible
>>98342057>gaunts ghostsbased
>>98342081well it won, didn’t it?
>>98338763Lots of misplaced coloured in that pic, OP.>TQ>Luv' Humanity>Luv' The Emperor>Luv' the Imperium>Hate Xenos>Hate mutants>Hate Traitors>Hate Heretics>simple as.
>>98342058>>98342067I honestly didn't expect folks to prefer blue over black, gotta say that's pretty awesome and it's reassuring me that it's the right choice. Thanks anons>>98342072Wdym? As in having the trim bright green as if the unit was selected?
>>98341753Based.
>>98342103>Wdym? As in having the trim bright green as if the unit was selected?That's the idea, but it doesn't have to be green unless you want verisimilitude to the first Dawn of War. Regardless, I do think that secondary colors can make for good base trim colors, but see how it goes.
>>98341753>decide to look it up on the guard reddit>see posts merely posting the list instantly deleted with the mod posting the “AoW statement” in the repliesalright, that’s pretty indefensible. you have this one, anti-guard schizo.
>need to spend $150 to get paragon warsuits and vahlI never even checked before i thought they were so ugly wtfis james really forcing everyone to buy these ugly overpriced pieces of shit just to not instaloss to any kind of armor?
>>98342135I refuse to buy and use them with my sob.
>>98341075>gw is too autistic and retarded with finances to allow cross compatible units3/6 of thousand sons non-character kits are from other game systems
>>98342136how are your sob doing in 11th?what are other ways to deal with armor just mass retributors?
>>98342081>major tournament list is miserable pile of WAACfaggotryYa don't fuckin' say.At least he won, unlike the majority of dipshits who are going to netlist and copy that and not know how to properly pilot it.
>>98342135Yes. Try finding a proxy or kitbash something that fits on a 50mm base, though unless you get third-party it's probably going to be a bit trickier compared to GK casually swapping out the baby carrier for an Armiger or Dreadnought.
>>98342155I will just shelf them until james gets over this werid obsessionwanted to make a word bearers army anyway, overall i like making them more than i like playing them i think.
>>98341753>>98342057hilarious>>98342081autism
>>98341753as I understand it the main issue IG has right now is that the way the army historically plays doesn't work anymore.yes a skilled player with a weird non-thematic list can win, but nobody plays guard to WAACfag. they do it for memes and vibes. drive me closer etc. if you can't get 40% WR with russes, chimeras and infantry blobs the army isn't working anymore.
>>98342167>nobody plays guard to WAACfagoh is that why half of my guard opponents are spamming as many tank hulls as possible
>>98342180>why does the army that's all about its tanks have so many tanks
>GW store owner wanted to celebrate 11th edition releasing so he hosted a Kill Team tournament on Sunday>It was a huge success as people play Kill Team now on Sundays due to how different it is to 40k and its perfect for Sundays as the store is open from 12 PM to 5 PM>Is gonna host a Spearhead tournament for AoS some time this monthNow I'm praying it's successful as well that the store starts to get AoS players as it's mainly 40k that gets played.
>>98342180Translating… >I’m mad my treadhead superior BTFO me with a bunch of tanks.
>>98342182huh? but you just said the army historically played with chimeras and infantry blobs. is it a tank spam army or a combined arms army?are we perhaps being a little disingenuous?
>>98342187>The worst and most predatory specialist game GW ever released>People like it because it is different to the arguably most casual and fun edition we had in ages
>>98342201nah it's ok guard players are universally terrible at the game and don't know their own rules (let alone mine) so it's usually possible to grab the dub
>>98342187>blades of khaine still on the shelf>all the corsair KT boxes that have been sitting on shelves for ages are gone the moment the new detachment and combat patrol comes out>KT, combat patrol, and battleforce are impossible to findkicking myself for not getting the KT when I had the chance, but are corsair units really that good?
>>98342203both! being a horde army, its actually pretty easy to shove in a bunch of infantry blobs and tanks at the same time.>>98342207uhhh, so then they aren’t waacfagging. they’re just shoving tanks in because its funny, and they hardly know the rules for them.
>>98342203im a different anon i just jumped in to point out that only a fucking psycho plays guard without as many tanks as they can
>>98342203in 5e at the height of the guard's power the meta was leafblower (tank, artillery and chimera spam with infantry in the chimeras) but infantry blobs or veterans in valkyries were also viableguard players are butthurt because now their codex is like the average xenos codex where most of it is crap and one strategy is kind of viable
>>98342232>they’re just shoving tanks in because its funnyohhh gotcha is that why they all have terrible attitudes OTB and crash out when you finally kill their Dorn?
>>98342180>>98342182>>98342235If you can believe it, IG heavy armor lists are genuinely one of the cheapest ways to play the game. Most armies are ~60 cents per point. IG tanks never go above 50. The only army I know of that can make a full list for less is C'tan spam (awesome!)>>98342206A lot of people have a Kill Team or two kicking around for their regular army.
>30k>Deathwing: 1st company veterans>Ravenwing: Fast attack specialists>Stormwing: General infantry>Dreadwing: Warcrimes/weapons of mass destruction specialists>Ironwing: Armored vehicle specialists>Firewing: Duelists and assassins>The Dreadwing, Ironwing, and Firewing were wiped out during the Heresy and never reformed>Stormwing got renamed to Greenwing for some reason in the time between 30k and 40kWas there a reason for this?
>>98342246I believe it but I've yet to meet a guard player use this reasoning for why they chose XYZ, typically that's custodes guys
>>98342244maybe its because you smell and they get edgy over having to play an entire game with you? probably about as plausible as your theory they’re waacfagging based on using a lot of tanks (in a guard list).
>>98342265shame you couldn't keep up, better luck next time
>>98342187I think if I had the choice I would play spearhead over just about every other gw game 9 times out of 10.It's that perfect mix of fast but not trivial, manages to strike a balance between random chance scoring and meaningful scoring choices, you get enough models to sink your hobby teeth into but not so many that it takes months or years to complete, doesn't ask you to spend $1000 to play, the small mat makes every match a turn 1 cage fight.I've played a lot of gw games over the years but so far that ones my favorite. I wish 40ks combat patrol was even half as good
>>98342206>the most casual editionI feel like the opposite is true.
How does a new Sister order get founded? How much are their actions actually dictated by the Ecclestiary vs just "the abbess says let's go kill some xenos or whatever, and file the paperwork with them later."
do normal human sized lightning claws exist?or are they strictly spess mehrine weapons
>>98342274Problem with Combat Patrol is that a lot of the boxes are designed to clear excess stock and have bigger disparities especially.
>>98342303That's a probably possiblity.
30 canon space marine chapters. I inserted 5 fakes. Find the fakes. Choose wisely.>Adamantine Lions>Astral Bears>Celestial Wardens>Flame Eagles>Doom Warriors>Flesh Tearers>Golden Gryphons>Gore Golems>Griffon Lords>Hawk Lords>Hate Marines>Immortal Hearts>Iron Lords>Jade Scorpions>Lion Warriors>Night Sentinels>Omega Marines>Penitent Blades>Rage Sentinels>Red Scimitars>Ruby Crescents>Space Skulls>Star Phantoms>Steel Confessors>Tome Keepers>Umbral Knights>Vengeance Riders>War Bearers>White Panthers>Yellow Jackets
I'm at a point where there are models I could have to complete my collection, but I don't need and don't want to buy right now. I have models still to assemble and paint, but I don't feel like doing that either when I can just set up my completed toys like a black templar sword brethren charging a killa kan.
>check sekhemet coven on ebay>over 100 sellers>they all want at least 212 bucks for itThese are just going to..... be there forever. Ha. Maybe I'll get one in a year or two when inflation makes 212 a better deal, assuming the eb*y s*llers don't jack the prices up.
Another big name in the transhumanist 40k community has been caught having a shit tonne of CommandPoints.Heartshapedtear
no sales huh
>>98342350yeah I especially enjoyed the bit where he claim to have amnesia that doctors refuse to verify that has removed his memory of it.>three years to process a single image>not arrested for a year after that>not convicted until nowstory smells like shit. probably more than one image and the UK went easy because tranny political stuff.hes also selling his custodes and "leaving the hobby"
>>98340584So where did all the DG who were #3 for games played in 10th go? And guard who were 4th for games played in 10th, where did they go?
>Any other minature core set>They're around $100 to $130>40k core set>$300What the fuck is this?
>>98342513idk man why does anything cost anything just go play the other games if it bothers you
>>98342251The breakup of the legions and shifting to defending the Imperium post-codex hasn't really necessitated the existence of most of the wings on top of lost knowledge. Greenwing is an informal term outside of the setting, but the limits imposed on chapter manpower probably defeats the Stormwing's purpose if 4/5ths is ordinary marines anyway. The Lion also probably doesn't care enough to reinstate them.Stormwing also used to be specialists in boarding actions, like with Breachers and such, but it was retconned to basically be marinetide.
>>98342513It's not a starter set. It's a whale set.
>>98342513GW is the largest and most popular miniature games maker. They can charge that much because people will pay that much. To be fair to James, the minis are manufactured in Bongistan and you can get a 20% discount from official retailers.
>>98342513The Starcraft start set with a similar amount of stuff is more expensive.
>>98342513Erm.. You pay for quality anon... :3
>>98342478>three years to process a single image>not arrested for a year after that>not convicted until nowWhat do you mean? That sounds exactly like the UK government
>>98342513was it a good idea to just go ahead and nab the armegeddon box for 250? or should i have just waited for the introductory set for the same price
I want regular humans in power armor>sisters>inquisitorsnot like thatI want small dudes in human sized power armor for knight armies
>>98342552That's retarded
>>98342552I remember when inquisition had their mini-dex in 6th/7th where you could kit a retinue member out with power armour and a bolter and they ended up costing around 23pts a model and incredibly shit especially when you could take a crusader in the same squad with a 3++ for about 12-15ish points.
>>98342206>most casual and fun edition we had in ages11th is dogshit, it's just slightly less dogshit than 10th.
>>98342552I want draenei futanari.
Do we have a timeline as to what order the codexes are dropping so far? Need to know what armies I’m keeping on the shelf when they get a early codex.Pic unrelated.
Are there any canon Grey Knight groups who paint their armor different colors? I know every army has to have canon explanations for why /yourguys/ might have different color schemes, but I can't think of any for them.
>>98342598Best I can give you is a graphic fanfic of Dranon fucking cultistchan
>>98342274Is the rat spearhead a decent one to start with?
>>98342608The one with the Warp Lightning Cannon? It's one of the best. the WLC is also very fun to use, you can supercharge it and gamble on it turning into a suicide blaster.
>>98342604lone questing knights that want to become paladins might otherwise not really. the whole point is to fight daemons and truesilver aegis armor is an important part of that. the /yourguys/ part of the grey knights comes from parts of the chapter missing or otherwise sequestered on certain assignments. for instance about half of the 7th brotherhood is currently missing after taking up the call from the inquisition for aid. the head of the 2nd brotherhood and a large portion of the fleet are engaged against a daemon gestalt mind beyond the great rift. could always do like, red hunters space marines instead.
>>98342549It's 239 on ebay free shipping and returns atm.>be sure to pick the filter for your country and not get charged 40 dollar shipping fees
>>98342274Can't wait for GW to fuck it over just like every other specialist game.
What happens in the Ghoul Stars?
>>98342552guard player wants to be marines. so sad.
>>98342708I just hate non human mutants like space marines
>>98342246>A lot of people have a Kill Team or two kicking around for their regular army.Not gonna lie, I hate this so much. I'm so assmad that Votann rely on the Yaegirs so much to play the game. Why is the Kap Defender so ass.
>>98342604you could argue they painted their amour since the Grey Knights aren't supposed to leave evidence of their existence, but I'm not up to snuff on GK lore so I dunno if that'd weaken the armour effects or whatever
>>98342513GW takes 60% from 3rd party stores selling their productsThey know people will eat up anything they makeIt's effectively a monopolyThey are just money grubbers who know they can get away with it because of their army of faggots
>>98338763Thinking about grabbing a box of AoS Pestigors to turn into Abominants. Any good resources out there on how to get gud at modeling chunks of nid exoskeleton with greenstuff? Figured I'd cover up some of the explicitly nurgle bits with patches of exoskeleton stuff.
What part of the Allies Matrix makes the least sense?
>>98341958
>>98338763>TQI liked the idea of being the underdog of the setting and I wanted to have the ability to kitbash without worrying about things too much. I first tried guard, and the play style didn't quite click with me. I briefly considered a cultist heavy CSM army, but I didn't like the perceived lack of firepower available to cultist units. I stumbled into GSC and fell in love with the mix of alien mutant hybrid and "human" units, the basically unlimited kitbash potential, and how they use swarming guerrilla war tactics
>>98342339>Adamantine LionsWait a minute
>>98342746Why are Daemon Hunters barely willing to tolerate Sisters here? You'd think they love each other.
>>98342552Putting power armor on normies is like spending 200,000$ on a 200$ shitbox
>>98342746This is fucking nonsense what cretin made this?
>>98342746
>>98342339All of these are fake.
>>98342339Astral BearsGore GolemsHate MarinesRage SentinelsSpace Skulls
>>98342552Solar Auxilia is probably the closest you'll get, and could proxy them in as another Agents unit for Knights. 30k has rules for using some Auxilia and/or Militia units as yeomen too.
>>98342746Graphic design is my passion
>>98342513its actually a great set, a small core rule book, a nice art and fluff book and then both campaign and matched play card decks. I think its actually the best set in ages. Too bad I don't play orks or space marines.
>>98342830Nta but he's talking about the price
>>98342703ghooling
Damn son, that boy's got some footwork.
>>98341839Locally it's Tau.
>>98342835yeah I'm saying its a shame since they'll probably take the lesson that it wasn't the price but the fact that they changed the formula as to why it did sell.
>>98341753>“The Moderation Team is aware of Art of War's recent win at Dream Maker GT with an infantry-based list, until we get confirmation of correct bases, points and general gameplay, we will do nothing.
>>98341753you can't make this shit up
>>98341753Now, I get where the guardfags are coming from, nobody wants to run some retarded skew list to win games, but also you kinda have to take the knee and admit the army is still playable when people are literally winning GTs with it. Anything less is just poor form, which is standard for guard players and redditors to be fair, but still.
all this debacle proves is that 90% of guard players are tread heads and can't conceive of playing a 100% footslogger list
>>98342970people are retarded, you'll show them a winning army and they'll say shit like >"I wish the faction would play like that". No shit, i'm showing you my fucking list. it does play that way. People just lack imagination, and hate any sort of adversity.
>>98342964>Nobody wants to run a retarded skew list to win gamesTbf a lot of xenos have been basically "you have to run this specific build or lose horribly" for a while now.Eldar was almost always the fire dragon warp spider list, deldar was the wychspam, Tau have at times been Oops All Kroot, Nids have exactly one good build with raveners...Hell, even Sisters have been built the same for ages and are shit because all the nerfs didn't change the fact that there is only one way to build sisters right.Guard are crashing out that they are being treated like most armies are.
>>98342988>You haveyou never have to do anything. You only have to do it if you are WAAC
>>98342991The winrates are from tournaments.If all you play is casual games this doesn't concern you in the first place and yet you guardsisters keep crashing out.
The new combat patrol rules in the start sets all but confirm that Marines are back to Gladius/combat doctrines as their army rule this edition. Rest in piss oath of moment.
>>98342988>Guard are crashing out that they are being treated like most armies are.More or less, yeah. They have some valid complaints imo - guardsmen costing 75 points for 10 models is ridiculous - but otherwise it's just the edition cycle and even that will likely be fixed before long.
>>98343000inb4 their codex gives them a detachment that gives them oaths back and it's clearly the best so nothing's changed at all
>>98343000At least this opens up the possibility for divergent chapters to have their own main army rule, which was a big fail of 10th.
>>98343006>75 points for 10 models is ridiculouswhy? the squad comes with sergeant, vox and multiple special weapons
>>98343014Because they fucking suck? They're guardsmen, they can't hit the broad side of a barn and they die to a swift breeze. The only things they're good for are screening out deep strikes and putting a bunch of OC on an objective. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm willing to believe I can be on this since I play CSM and not guard, but I've literally never seen regular guardsmen do anything besides be a speed bump to give the rest of their army space to do their job. 75 points for 10 just seems like too much to pay for that.
>>98343014special weapons aint what they used to bethe way cover and battle shock work now hurts them a lot, tooguard used to be 5pts per model base with vox and cheap weapons (nade launcher, autocannon) putting them to 65pts a squadand that was in an edition with 1 wound marines and cover being a flat 4+ save
>>98342746Are these with subfactions that they're willing to put up with or some shit?
>>98342996that logic goes both waysif the only strong way to play an army requires units that people don't commonly use then it will feel underpowered at the kitchen table compared to other armies taking fun/thematic units that are inherently stronger
>>98342970>mfw I have no tanks in my guard list
>trying to organise a game in my lgs discord>no one goes by their real name, they all use their gamer name with some cringe profile picIt's maximum gay, even dark angels aren't this gay
>>98343059Maybe facebook would be more your speed, grandpa.
>>98343061>see someone in the lgs messenger group chat looking for a game>doesn't use an image of themself for their profile pic It's the biggest red flag, a guaranteed autist
>>98343059This was a problem with my local one too, thankfully it seems like more regulars went to append their actual names at least. But there's a fair few common names shared, so that doesn't really help as much.
>>98343020They increased the price of small units all across the board (with some exceptions). GW seems to be afraid of having recon be too good because in theory it can be (((uninteractive))).Eldar rangers are 60 points for 5 1 wound dudes that infiltrate and do nothing. Meanwhile marine scouts, who perform the same role, are double the wounds, more toughess, more damage etc. for 65, even they pale in comparison compared to the points efficiency of ork boyz. They will fix it in time, hopefully.
>>98343069Marine scouts are really strong because they want to sell more of the overpriced kill team kits. It's really dumb that they're more skilled than full marines in phobos armour, access to heavier weapons, and also cheaper. The single point difference in saving throw makes no difference to survivability in practice, they're strictly better.
NEW BREAD WHEN
>>98343102you asked for it>>98343125>>98343125>>98343125
>>98342905KWAB. Talk about a skill issue.
Why are CSM books separate while SM supplements can use their main book?
>>98342097Wait has the Necromunda guard always been Van Saar gangers? weren't the necromundan spiders different?
