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>>98343125>TQI have to wait to complete the army after the next codex drops. If shit is getting taken away then I won't play.
i remade a meme
>>98343125Heels, nails, blade, mascaraFit check for his napalm eraNeed to beat his face, make it cute and savage
I like orks :D
>>98343125>TQThey're bald and are extremely hard to actually paint to a passable degree. I feel cucked for liking idoneth and gsc at this point.
>>98343145So do I but I'm glad I didn't buy into the Armageddon hype(nor did anyone else apparently)
>>98343147forgot to mention the pity heros and lack of an actual expansion. Where are my limos, James.
>>98343145>stompas reduced from 800 points to 600Time to purchase another one
>>98343151unfortunately the space marine side being so boring is probably a factor as to why the box seems so unappealingthat and all the ork players who started in 10th probably already have enough boyz, painboys, warbosses and grots, and then the wartrakk and dakkarig are both ork shooting unitsbigbosses are pretty sweet, though
Thoughts on Total War's STOMPA?
>>98343173Wish we got to see it do something first before getting orbitally lasered
>>98343173Animation is too stiff, looks like a Doctor Who Dalek (pejorative)
results of the week 3 vote in an hour, right?orks about to go 0-3?
>>98343166This. I'm a marine fag and the land speeder is the only thing I might have grabbed.The ork side looks way more interesting
>>98343125>TQI have literally over a thousand points of painted Legends units that I can't use anymore after nearly 15 years of playing them in almost every list.I'm not buying anymore for this army until some of what I own is legal for play again.
>>98343181Someone said SM won again and it's a detachment for reveal. I hope he's trolling
>>98343181no reason to think orks win this one unless there are hidden rules that make it increasingly difficult to keep the winning streak, but I don't count on gw having such mechanics
>>98343181Orks were doomed from the straight. Armageddon is a storied place with a history so your average Marine player isn't going to throw the Imperium under the bus for the lulz like what happened with the Leviathan vote.
>>98343173Good to know there will be titan units in general bigger than knights
>>98343193honestly i just assume the votes are for fun and GW plans to just end the campaign in a drawwill see if I'm right or wrong soon
>>98343187Your army?
>>98343198>Leviathan votewhatever happened there
>>98343223Nids won the voting.
The guard list that won is a skew list with 0 vehicles, and it also just maxed score with Recon disposition. I'm glad they got a win, but that's genuinely not what people think of when they say they want to play guard. Most people want some cool tanks, and they want to pew pew. If you have to ditch all of your tanks, and then just run around doing Recon objectives, then it's still a legitimate complaint that the faction is not what it should be. The stuff people actually want to use is bad.And yes, I'm aware some other books are in the same boat. Eldar and Sisters are both really hurting right now. Eldar are pigeonholed into doing the same sort of skew lists with just doing Recon/Disruption objectives, and Sisters unironically just suck at the moment since they're been nerfed so much and marines do everything they do better. But we can do one thing at a time. Other factions having problems too doesn't mean you can't complain.This is also kind of frustrating because marines are once again eating a buffet while multiple other factions are starving. They get to play around with librarians making sternguard or infernus insane bricks that wipe anything, they're getting new characters and new detachments literally as we speak, they already have more detachment choices for dispositions than most factions, etc.The game is in a bad place at the moment, not just guard, and I hope GW doesn't wait until the full codex releases which could be a year away for some people to help them out. But of course people who play marines are just going to say "wow why are you complaining?!". It's the same thing every time.
>>98343223more nidfags bought the box than marinefags
>>98343229>Most people want some cool tanks, and they want to pew pewok, and why do you want that list to be the most performing list at a tournament?
>>98343223GW rigged it.
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98343229Tanks spent all of 10th being broken as hell, it's fine if they're not busted right now
>>98343239le ebin meme in every thread ecks dee
Finished my first vehicle
>>98343229>actually bro, [your army] doesn’t suck, a dude just won a GT with a [list that no ordinary person would ever want to run] many such cases!
>>98343229>And yes, I'm aware some other books are in the same boat. Eldar and Sisters are both really hurting right now.And yet it's always the guardfags with the spectacular chimpouts. Curious.
>>98343223Nids won and killed all the ultramarines on the planet, and that's why the rest fled back to ultramar instead of staying in the sector and why gw didn't release tyrannic war veterans, because they all dieded to death.
>>98343244Will you come back to it when you're more confident with your painting ability?
>>98343229I think guard players who dislike abhumans and rough riders are kinda cringe but it was same with the first list as well it had something like 18 ogryns in it and horsemen.
>>98343173Nice dress, git
>>98343247No, actually bro, your army doesn't suck, you just refuse to use its most basic units for what they're worth.
>>98343188Detatchment is for week 4.
>>98343244SOVL
>>98343244Bro what the fuck
>>98343250You don't get it: when the other factions whine it's because they're obnoxious waacfags, when MY faction whines it's because it's justified and the fanbase is passionate and numerous and gw should cater to it specifically!
>>98343229it kind of irks me that they gave guard an abhuman detachment but gave ratlings the points upgrade rather than ogryns but that's mostly it
>>98343251>4th tyrannic war>no tyrannic war veterans>4th war for armageddon>no steel legionnaires What next?
>>98343264I mean when you boil this down its guardfags wanting to play armies that are true to the lore and not waacfag 30 kasrkin and 15 DK engineer mortal wounds spam lists.
>>98343250True, it's not Eldar or Sisters with a reddit boycott going on right now.Honestly I can see both sides of the argument though and he is kind of right. A faction can be good competitively while also very unfun or just unfluffy to play in the way that gets actual results. Guard has an enormous roster with terrible internal balance and are naturally disposed towards Recon/PriorAssets play when what many players want is just to be able to play Purge/TakeHold well enough for their own satisfaction. But Art of War is also correct that Guard as a faction can be very competitive in the current rules environment when the only metrics you are looking at are competitive viability. And complaining that a competitive group of players calling your army competitive is "objectively false and misinformed" is just whining to the wrong crowd, because the competitive playerbase does not give a fuck about internal balance and has no ability to change that on their own anyways.
Post models, gentlemen.What'd you get done over the weekend?I finished my first 5 new Boyz. Gonna start on the painboy tonight with some friends that are coming over to drink beers and paint models together.
>>98343270>Pariah Nexus>No Pariahs>500 Worlds>Actually only fought on about 10>The Cadian Gate a t the Eye of Terror>No Cadians
>>98343274havent built my armageddon Orks yet, looking for good replacements for all the fucking tactical rocks so they fit better on my spaceship interior basesCURSE YE TACTICAL ROCKS
>>98343125>TQPainting gold trim. It just sucks too much being a paintlet...
>>98343278can't you paint them as chunks of metal or concrete with a few wires sticking out?
>>98343272Yes, guardfags are the most oppressed minority. No faction has ever been at it's strongest when running a non-fluffy list. Literally never happened in the history of the game. Pour one for a guardfag near you.
GW never should have folded to Guard players over the Steel Legion thing. It's made them think that if they complain loud enough about anything they will get their way.
>>98343274>What'd you get done over the weekend?doomscrolled like a retard, I’m afraid.
>>98343272>wanting to play armies that are true to the loreIn my life I've never seen one single guardfag ever playing anything other than a spamlist.And no, your spamlist of choice isn't fluffy.
>>98343285According to 40kg guard players did not do anything, it was always GW's plan to make every IG regiment in plastic (even though 40kg will tell you 400 times a day that there will be no further IG regiments in plastic).
>>98343229>Most people want some cool tanksNot really
>>98343288Do you think they designed and set into production the things only after the whinings?
>>98343283I dont think it'd look that good. Im trying to find some ammo boxes or something sort of like what Badrukk stands on
>>98343287oh well, they only run spamlists in your polackville I guess that's all that needs to be said then.
>>98343244Thought it was lego from the thumbnail ngl>>98343270>Badab war>no war
>>98343286Grim.Dark, even.
>>98343287No but see tank spam with two small conscript squads for chaff is fluffy.An endless tide of human life being thrown into the thresher of war and winning through the weight of sheer numbers as the bodies pile higher and higher in a doomed reconnaissance mission only to relay a shred of tactical information back to high command about where to send the artillery strikes at the enemy position is waacfag meta chasing.
>>98343244this would get the pro painted tag on ebay
>>98343285> It's made them think that if they complain loud enough about anything they will get their way.And that's a bad thing because?...
>>98343285>they will get their way.but they don't like the new concepts, they won't buy the kill team, they'll just cry for the next irrelevant regiment of trench coats and gasmasks
Infantry spam guard list is fluffy.
>>98343288We had leaks saying 2 extra regiment refresh after krieg, not counting steel legionMy guess is on catachan and valhallans
>>98343288Oh yeah. They definitely always planned to show a bunch of early conceptual sketch work of a SL redesign and reuse an already released trailer with a voiceover to announce Steel Legion coming eventually with no promises that they will arrive any time in the next two years or more. That's definitely a normal thing they do for other factions.
>>98343294You are in the know of GW's production line?
>>98343288>it was always GW's plan to make every IG regiment in plasticI hope not.They'll make everyone black trans women, like Gold Primaris Marines.Vostroyans are still firstborn sons, and look fucking good, in the model range, only because they've not been updated.
I have not had fun playing this game since 9th
>>98343309Almost any guard list you can make is fluffy when you consider the size of the typical guard deployment and the size of an actual game. Anything you can put on the table for them can be easily explained as just a smaller part of the much larger force fighting conveniently off the bounds of the table.
>>98343316so play 9th
Why are we allowed to have different models for 16 flavors of space marines but the different IG regiments cause butthurt? Serious question
>>98343306because you don't need to be actually involved in the hobby to whine loud enough on the internet and the vast majority of those people don't actually have opinions of their own but are recruited by influencers who want to get their own specific wayreacting to 'fans' in a direct manner is never a good idea
>>98343282you're definitely not a painlet if thats your model
>>98343307>I can't believe they won't like [actual garbage "remake"]>These people will never be happy!!How someone can suck so much GW cock and asks for seconds is beyond me.Every time you fags complain about "whining" or "bitching" you're the pissiest bitches there ever was projecting your own tantrums. Get a fucking grip.
>>98343313You didn't answer the question: Do you think they designed and set into production the things only after the whinings?Yes or No.
>>98343287>honey the guard players are running spamlists>it's a horde faction. THEY'RE GONNA SPAM UNITS
>>98343319some idiot is going to say because the popularity of marines warrant it but ignoring that if GW is willing to make a handful of regiments that there is also some popularity at work there behind their decision. Like seriously some marinefag here said the DKoK plastic line was a failure.
what are the guardfags whining about now? even my lgs groupchat keeps going on about it
>>98343320You think complaints aren't from actual fans?
>>98343319Because space marines all use the same models and paint them different colors and space marines are the main characters of the setting. Guard are there to lose a fight and call for space marines to help them. Different guard regiments are just set dressing for what kind of bodies the marines get to walk over while they save the day and win the war that the Guard were losing.
>>98343319space marines sellguardfags run on delusions of self importance, which are not enough to justify 16 different flavors of men with rifles
>>98343319you arent allowed to criticize marine bros, anon
real chance that space marines win week 4 of the campaign and get their 18th detachment just including the baseline ones + ultramarine ones
>>98343319It's just haters. It's that sad and basic.
>>98343333he didn't just say that, he said that influencers are rounding up people to complain as well lmao!>>98343320can you post at least a dozen social media posts/youtube videos that were responsible for creating this wave of non-player complainers? (they never answer this because no such things exist)
>>98343332Art of War said guard is good and the subreddit had a collective shitfit that someone dare suggest their army is not struggling right now
>>98343339>detachment"We’ll announce the results each week, and the winning side will be rewarded with a new model reveal.">a new model reveal
>>98343343people are struggling with it because they aren't running those tourney lists.
>>98343332When are guardoids not whining
>>98343324>CATER TO ME!>done>NO, NOT LIKE THAT!>CATER TO ME AGAIN!>done>NO, NOT LIKE THAT!>CATER TO ME AGAIN!>done>NO, NOT LIKE THAT!>CATER TO ME AGAIN!>...and so on and onat some point it's better for everyone if you've never catered to, since you won't like what you're going to get while wasting resources that would have gone for releases for other factions who are actually likely to get stuff they like
>>98343331>Like seriously some marinefag here said the DKoK plastic line was a failure."You can either have the worst commissar sculpt in history, who needs to stand on a tactical platform to not have his sword be a third leg that holds him off the ground... or you can spend a few pennies more and get a cool commissar and other minis you can use anywhere in your army or bits box"Who even sculpted the one on the left and why wasn't he fired on the spot?
>>98343345the overall winners get a detachmentunless orks make it a draw space marines get the detachment
>>98343346Right. That's the eternal problem with Gaurd. They have about six subcategories of army type and only one of the is ever viable at a time but most of their playerbase likes their subcategory and doesn't want to switch to the good one. They want their playstyle to be made good.Which isn't a bad thing to want and GW really should try to work on it. But every faction suffers from this all the time. Even space marines. It's not just a guard thing.
>Armageddon return announced>no steel legion>"Where is the steel legion?">OMG JUST PAINT KRIEGERSS>GUARDFAGS ARE SO WHINY WTFFF BROOOOS>YOU DON'T NEED MORE FLAVORS OF GAS MASK DUDE>HOLY SHIT GUARDFAGS ARE SO OBNOXIOUS>UH OH GUARDFAG MELTYIs there a name for this mental illness?Create problems and then try to pass it as the person you don't like?
>>98343333What percentage of the people who commented about the steel legion do you think will actually buy a kill team of them?Be honest.
>>98343351>Cater to me>done>not actually doneNot reading the rest
Very funny that tanks have been OP all of 10th and now guardfags are going "No uh I have all these tanks to make it lore accurate! Lots of infantry is fake! 4 dorns is how Guard was meant to be played!"
>>98343274Between the heat and putting a tank together I've not made half as much progress on these as I'd hoped.
>>98343356guardfags mad fr
>>98343229You're right of course. People here are unintelligent contrarians so they'll argue against things you never said and complain about their boogeyman "guardfags" but every single thing you actually said said is correct. I play 3 armies and will just play the other ones for a while, or play casual games with other people playing bad stuff too.
>>98343274>some friends that are coming over to drink beers and paint models together.that sounds comfy af i wish my friends who played this game were closeby
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98343360We all know that a Steel Legion KT box will sell out Day 1 but you will still be here doubling and tripling down on your bullshit>oh it sold out because GW didn't make a lot of stock because they knew they couldn't sell outor>oh in my LGS they didn't sell a single box!
>>98343346What do you think of other factionsDo they maybe have the same issues?
>>98343360That entirely depends on how good the kill team is.You're of the same breed as the retarded boomers sitting at the board meetings>People asked for A?>Give them B>People don't buy B>See? They never wanted A in the first place, never do A again
>>98343365You've just proved my point.
>all of this complaining >meanwhile us GSC bros are starvingd-d-down with t-the o-oppressors
>>98343378Your point being a faggot, yes>debate me!You deserve naught but insults, for everytime you open your mouth you insult the entire human race through sheer faggotry and retardation.
>>98343375>doesn't answer the questionthat's how I know you know that most of the whining didn't even come from steel legionfags.
>>98343319Because "16 flavors of space marines" use 95% the same model range.You don't have 16 different flavors of an intercessor model, which is what guardfags expect, as they seethe at the mere sight of mixing regiments.
I read a thing a few weeks ago where if anything heals now, if its at full wounds you restore models to the unit? (e.g daemons healing via shadow of chaos)can anyone verify? if so, what document is it in?
>>98343274
>>98343376I play other factions as well so I'm in tune with at least those other armies. What exactly is it you fucks want to say here? The uppity guard players should be quiet because... DEfags take it up the ass from GW and like it? It's clear a subset of you guard haters are angry because GW did confirm SL will return.
>>98343385Your question was inane. Nobody knows how many people who kicked up a stink about steel legion are going to buy the box. You just want someone to answer so you can type up your contrarian response with a jewish smirk on your face >"um acktually nobody is going to buy it"
>>98343385Nta but what a fucking retarded logic. Can you give a percentage yourself?
>>98343393Do guard players genuinely think the optimal and most winning playstyle for other armies always match what the community wants out of that army?
>>98343408Thats up for their respective communities to determine. But if Eldar players are fine with playing an army that isn't true to the lore of their army that doesn't mean guard players should be fine as well.
>>98343408>Do guard players genuinely thinkNo.
SoB are worse off than guard but I am quietly praying to the Emperor that He deliver us some cool models or rules. I feel like sob players are just sort of used to it, since GW already overreacted to them being momentarily good years ago with over-nerfs, so it's just sort of business as usual now. They had a reasonable 40-50% win rate for most of 10th, it dropped to 34% recently but I personally think that's just because everyone hopped on the Purge bandwagon, and once people start exploring Disruption/Recon/Prio/Hold things will even out.I recently made a list that is lots of jump infantry and rhinos to start playtesting the other more mobility focuses dispositions, when originally when the edition dropped I was playing my same immolator+Castigator spam list and forcing Purge, which wasn't really working since everyone is more resilient than us and more shooty, so if it's just a slugfest SoB lose to marines. I like trying new things, and I'm dusting off some seraphim and Celestine and stuff which is exciting.
>>98343393>The uppity guard players should be quiet because... DEfags take it up the ass from GW and like it?DAS RITE, guardsister. THEY SHALL NOT SILENCE US. We shall be loud and proud about being unhappy with the state of Our faction. Let everyone know we will not go quietly into the night like those faggot ass dark eldar players who don't even boycott people on reddit, those cowards.
>>98343408A well-designed game would incentivise playing into the appeal/fantasy of the faction, yeah.
>>98343420Good goy! Lick the boot! Every inch!
>>98343426This.If the winning strategy is not the most fun one, you have failed as a game designer.
>>98343426That is not the question being asked
>>98343368Nice lookin dudes, anon.
>>98343401I didn't ask you for an accurate percentage, I asked you for the percentage you think could be accurateand you refuse to answer it because you already know that it's not the target customers for a steel legion kit who're whining and bitching in a comment section, they may be asking for it, but they're not going to buy it
>>98343442You are a balding moron who thinks internet grifters are hiring outsiders to complain about this. What I know is that you are wretched and know nothing.
>take 2 beasts of nurgle>always heal to full at the end of any phase>if you dont kill both in a turn, one will just heal to full, heal via shadow of chaos which revives the other one on d3 wounds, which then heals to full at the end of the phaseoh god these things are going to be fucking annoying right?
>>98343442Now this, is actual paranoid schizo posting.
>>98343450stop larping as the decalfaggot
>>98343343If I have learned anything about the 40k fanbase its that its a combination of average IQ + autism. Being autistic doesn't make you smart, it makes you autistic. So if you are a midwit, or worse a retard, and autistic you will get situations like this where a horde of not very good players meme themselves into something that isn't true and are completely capable of being exposed to information that disrupts their world view.This is 100% a symptom of high autism rates in the 40k community. Autists REALLY struggle with being told they are wrong, being shown they are wrong, being shown something they THINK is wrong etc. Its part of the medical condition of being autistic. They believe something, so it must be true. Therefore this is a conspiracy and the world is wrong and I need to throw a tempy tantwum over this. Meanwhile us agents fags are just like... maaaaaaaaaaaaan
>>98343455No one is larping as anyone, you schizoid fuck.
>>98343451just being there and annoying seems very on brand for nurgle daemons
>>98343244Honestly? I'll take this over mobs of unpainted grey anyday, kudos anon.
>>98343401>um acktually nobody is going to buy itFunny thing is this was said about plastic Krieg when there was only their flimsy resin model incarnation.
>>98343456>Meanwhile us agents fags are just likeStupid lol
>>98343313The year on the concept art is 2025, not 2026
>>98343456>Meanwhile us agents fags are just likeMy condolences that you fell for the marketing teams actual lies that they were being supported as a real faction. That is, if you actually have models.
>>98343466Nta but some of the sketches, namely weapons, are labeled 2026.Also, these are very early exploration sketches, and very boring at that. The likely scenario is that GW abandonned the steel legion early on, probably thinking people liked krieg better anyway, and then upon hearing of the backlash they fetched the few sketches they had.
Sagitaur :)
>>98343488>>98343244
>>98343441thanks, buddy
>>98343484Or they were already in the pipeline and they just revealed earlier than usual that they would be coming.
>>98343502We're talking about GW here, except the worst and then some
>>98343505You're the one painting gw as more caring than it is by thinking they would add a unit into their pipeline because some fans cried about it in comment sections.
>>98343418>but I am quietly praying to the Emperor that He deliver us some cool models or rules.We could do with some male sisters.
I can't believe anyone actually thought agents were a faction.
>>98343508Ah yes, nothing more caring than trying to pander to fans to deflect your own monumental fuck-up and milk them some more. Especially through a shitty half-assed "remake".Shut your bitchass up.
>>98343418Sisters on bike this edition, trust
>>98343142What the fuck is this faggotry
>>98343322Its fletcher's from tabletop tactics, but about half the EC armies you see online ape his recipe.
>>98343523the OG way fulgrim got corrupted is horus invited him to parley and had him partake in some drugs and other pleasures, which convinced fulgrim to both defect to horus' side but also fall towards slaanesh
>>98343493Ah shit
>>98343517I kinda feel bad for anyone new who got suckered by GW's shitty deceptive marketing of it.
>>98343518So you're angry at gw for not giving you steel legion and at the same time you're angry at gw for giving you steel legion?All while saying that you should expect the worst out of gw, which to you means that them listening to the fans and adding the steel legion to the pipeline is worse than gw having changed nothing in response to backlash?You're not making sense.
>10x rubric marines (1900 pts)>1x infernal master joined to a rubric squad with the rubric aura (95 + 5 pts)Explain to me why this wouldn't work.
>>98343548>Ask for steel legion>Get garbage>This isn't what I asked for>Omg what do you even want??Pretending to be retarded is still retarded, nigger. Last (you)
>>98343553>Last (you)I wish you would stop having whatever issue you have, but we both know you won't.By the way, do you have any steel legion models?
I was going to do an Eldritch Raiders list but I've realized that Eldritch Raiders is hot dogshit and I want to make a second list. Do I do Corsair Coterie, Seer Council, or Guardian Battlehost?
>>98343550Very nice, however:>16 20 unit termagaunts>1 tyranid prime
>>98343173Off all of the shitty sci-fi walkers, I think the stompa is unironically the most 'realistically' designed one. If walkers existed IRL, they would quickly fall out of favour because of how vulnerable their legs would be to any and all fire. The stompa wearing a thick metal skirt circumvents this weakness. Yes, it would still be shit as it's incredibly slow, but you now have to dig through the metal to hit a weak point rather than 50% of the vehicle being the weak point.
This was my army at the end of 10th.With the 11th points, if i were to turn both the sunforge and the missileknife suits into burst cannon starscythes.Then I can afford both an Enforcer commander as well as Commander Farsight. to lead the final two units. Which would also Fill up the last two suit slots on the Manta's that are supposed to transport this army. Its just too perfect that I am now compelled to do it.
>>98343566I love that the stompas doesn't actually have legs, its walking mechanism is very simple and clever.
>>98343550Anything weaker than a terminator squad is removed from the table in a single phase of fighting/shooting.
>>98343566I don't like the stompa having a skirt because I can't imagine it lifting its foot to do much stomping on anything that's not already irrelevantly small anyway
>>98343550>>98343562rubrics stomp this so hard it's not even funnyyou need the other side to be all gretchins and 1 zodgrod
>>98343579Clearly they lift the skirt like a princess when it has to stomp something important
>see guy talking about awesome 5 person team game he was in>get excited, didn't know people still played team games, ask him about it>turns out its just a tournament format where you are on a "team" with 4 other people>you don't actually play a game together, you just bundle points together at the end40k is so fucking soulless, I will forever curse the normgroids who invaded it in 2015 and their MTG troon refugee friends
Currently working on my defiler base.Problem I only realised before it was too late was that my base is slightly 'raised' or bent. You can see the gap where it rises slightly off the ground. Any idea how I can fix this? I've tried hard bending it.
>>98343570its peak, like pygmalion i have fallen in love with my creation.
>>98343598sand it
>>98343593This
>>98343593You don't have to care about tournament players if you don't want to. You're free to make that decision for yourself.
>>98343570>>98343604Kino
>>98343593i played a 5 way free for all of old world with some buddies on saturday. don't let your memes be dreams.
>>98343626>but how does this affect you PERSONALLY smug fat redditor.jpgNot that anon but shut up, retard. It affects the whole culture of the game and poisons it for everyone else.
>>98343635aww larper got upset that his issue isn't real
>>98343642And here he devolves into low effort shitposting when he doesn't get the reaction he wants, because the newfag shitposters of current year get so emotionally invested in their bait they only end up making themselves mad when people don't reply how they wanted lmao
>>98343635Don't be such a whiny baby. You can play 3 or 4 player games if you want. The "teams" format is pretty lame especially when they all dress up in matching outfits, but it doesn't effect you unless you choose to engage with it.Some people just want to have a cry.
>>98343570>>98343604>its peakit really iscan you tell me about /yourdudes/ anon?
>>98343630Its my version of an orbital drop assault. and it plays like one too since I kauyon and the solid image projection unit to keep all of my suit units in reserve.
>>98343598That tank is holding it like that, you need to break the tanks glue bond to to the base before you can bend it back right.
>>98343626The entire game space is tournament players now, anon>Go into any LGS with 40k nights>EVERYONE is playing tournament scenariosTournament cancer has shaped 40k rules design for 2 editions now. How can you be so retarded and blind not to notice?
>>98343661you've never gone outside
>>98343664Kek tourneytroon melty
Eldar GODS... think we will get a new grav tank hull eventually? The old sculpt holds up but the kit is kind ass at this point. It has to be one of the few oldest models in the game if not the oldest.
>>98343649Yes they're lost in space 4th sphere who found a massive super giant star system with hundreds of planets to form a new sept on. However not all planets and moons in this system are vacant. and so they travel mostly by Manta's and perform drop assaults, They rely on older easier to build technologies and focus on hard hitting hit and run tactics from orbit.
>>98343668like clockwork >>98343645
>>98343669we just did. the new corsair vehicle (an eldar datasheet) is a grav vehicle
>>98343646Teams is very fun because you spend months working together with friends to have armies that synergize and cover a wide amount of matchups. It feels good to have 1 guy be 'The Necron Killer' and watch him dumpster the crons player he gets paired against.As Teams is a format that encourages good listbuilding and chatting with your friends, it is no surprise that it fills 40kg goers with a seething jealous rage.
>>98343661Played at the lgs last week and the loser I played asked to use no terrain, just the stupid templates. Tournament Soullessness is killing the hobby.
>>98343593Team tournaments are kind of fun if you like strategizing who takes on who and aligning matchups. They also let you shield teammates from exceptionally bad matchups so your friend with a list that screams "don't send me against Tau" will almost certainly never see a Tau matchup.Very disappointing if you were hoping for a huge 5v5 battle I agree.Otoh Guard has Artillery that hits like 5 tables away whereas most factions struggle to even shoot the diagonal of a table so most Apocalypse battles horrendously favor guard who have infinite range Artillery vs limited range or direct fire weapons.
>>98343661Tournament terrain is there as a balanced default. You can run an open field vs Tau if you really want.
>>98343649It's a shame that Deldar never had a big focus on beasties. Yes, there are some creatures (not anymore) but I'd have thought that the predators that live in Commoragh would get into the army soon enough.
>>98343682>n-no unewfags aren't sending their best tonight
>>98343681Apocalypse was kino, nu-40k is so rigidly and poorly designed it can't do Apocalypse, Combat patrol, kill team, team games, non-tournament terrain setups, assymetric scenarios, NOTHING. Nu 40k is a NOTHING GAME that can only replicate Starcraft 2 1v1 ranked matches
having to get GW to send out a replacement warboss and SM captain for the armageddon box since mine didn't come with anyhow the fuck does anyone order anything from GW's official site this shit takes so long
>>98343683>YOU DONT LIKE PLAYING ON THE SAME SYMMETRICAL GRID PLAYING THE SAME MISSION EVERY GAME?>JUST PLAY WITH NO TERRAIN AT ALL!!!!Is this the binary that exists in every tourney troons addled mind?
Criticism of 40k largely comes down to two things>I'm poor>I have no friendsif you have a decent job and friends to play with, you can play whatever edition or format you like. If you're whining about the current edition (happens almost every edition at this point) then you are just outing yourself as a loser with no mates.
>>98343693No, that's the made up scenario you've invented to make yourself angry yet again
>>98343229>The guard list that won is a skew list with 0 vehiclesThat's the amazing list that won something and proves everyone wrong? So it wasn't even the sample list that AOW showed off(that wasn't a legal list)? How does this prove anything?
>>98343693I already said you can do anything.Why do you get so mad at the idea of playing something different with a friend?
>>98343645>devolves into low effort shitpostingOnly proper response to other low effort shitposting
>>98343696>erm, just mindlessly consume or you're an incel loser chud>>98343697>11e is a made up scenario
>>98343689>nu-40k is so rigidly and poorly designed it can't do Apocalypse, Combat patrol, kill team, team games, non-tournament terrain setups, assymetric scenarios, NOTHING.Most of this was balanced and designed on vibes anyways, if you do an apocalypse/teams game on your own on vibes it'll be about as good as the old rules were.Terrain setups specially, it's actually really easy to modify the standard terrain setups and get something playable, 40kg is just retarded and needs their hand held throughout.
>>98343709(you) tried
>>98343626Retard>>98343635This
>>98343709No im saying if you dont like the current edition to not consume it, you dumb cunt
>>98343711Here's a tip:The people who come in here every single day and stomp their feet and cry about how shitty 40k is now have never touched the game in their life, they're just here for easy engagement for their circlejerk shitpostsThey'll do this for years on end
>>98343689>nu-40k is so rigidly and poorly designed it can't do Apocalypseskill issue
>>98343711The issue isn't the balance, the issue is a lack of official rules support so nobody even bothers to play them. All the nogames ITT actually believe the average 40k player will ever experiment and not just do what the book tells them
>>98343645>aww larper got upset that his issue isn't real>not devolving into low effort shitpost
>>98343716>Criticism of 40k>>98343719Post your apocalypse game
This kit would have blown the mind of a 5h edition player.
>>98343717>The people who come in here every single day and stomp their feet and cry about how shitty 40k is now have never touched the game in their lifeDead wrong, the people defending it are just newfags who never played better editions and have no point of comparison for their slop.
>>98343689Ironic that I love Starcraft multiplayer and hate the recent handful of 40k editions. Would vastly prefer 3rd,4th,5th, or 8th to 9-11th editions. Thankfully my current group is down to play 3.5 or 5 for the most part.Nu 40k really struggles if you try and go above the scale it's designed for.CP and once per turn restrictions really hurt if you raise the points limit. Haven't actually checked if they normalized max ranges to something sane on Artillery as I don't play guard or with imperial titans.
>>98343692>how the fuck does anyone order anything from GW's official sitethey don't, and GW don't want you to. they make more money selling wholesale at 60% off and not having to dedicate more warehousing and distribution staff to the retail side. that stuff already costs them more than the manufacturing.
>they kill Crusade>it was so dogshit that nobody cared
>>98343689>Nu 40k is a NOTHING GAME that can only replicate Starcraft 2 1v1 ranked matchesIt's far worse, Starcraft competitive is actually fun, because video games are the space for that sort of thing. Tabletop games are not.
It's easier than ever to get a good game with a random person, I love it (unless they play knights).
>>98343727these look like shit
>>98343720>lack of official rules support so nobody even bothers to play them.there's 2 kinds of 40k players, hardcore compfags, who'll never try it even if it has official support, (see: all the people who didn't and still don't play with the custom characters creation system) and necromundafags who'll give anything a shot, official or not.
>>98343742I used to make on the fly narrative scenarios with randoms for pickup games, now its just>I'm practicing for a tournament>Yeah I'm really into T-sports>Erm, your older models aren't on the correct base sizes...>Check out my skew list, it has [endless buzzwords you will not find in a single rulebook]
>>98343646>criticism of anything makes you a "whiny baby"That's not what whiny means you feminized little faggot. Merely pointing out an issue isn't whining. You are so conditioned to defend status quos for billionaire corporations it's nauseating.
>>98343729>n-no ulol!
>>98343743For comparison, this is the equivalent upgrade kit that they sold in 5th edition
>>98343727Some special weapon sprues could be bought from GW but most of the time they were like 1/2-2/3 the cost of just buying the unit again so most people just bought more squads.
>>98343750Nah, my argument makes logical sense, yours is just obvious bullshit for anyone that takes two seconds to think about it.
>>98343727I like the skull bits thing they made but it's retardedly overpriced for having zero actual game pieces.
>>98343626>You don't have to care about tournament players if you don't want to.Nta but Even if people didn’t care, in tabletop to competitive vidya to sports, competitive methods usually used in serious matches drip into casual play that is meant to be fun.The sterile “L” shaped terrain is the drippings from tournament play that seeped into casual the most.The most insulting part is that the L shaped terrain usually isn’t stylized through modeling/painting to “compensate” for the symmetrical terrain set up.That isn’t even attempted.
>>98343748>waah waah waaahGive it a rest, champ.
>>98343757>nuh uh I'm super smart YOU'RE the shitposter
>>98343747>Erm, your older models aren't on the correct base sizes...I hope you retards aren't trying to cheat.
>>98343646>You can play 3 or 4 player games if you want.So you literally are too stupid to understand "it affects the culture and poisons it for everyone else"? Fucking third worlders need to be banned from the White man's internet.
Bros.. I bought something from GW's website... give it to me straight... are the sprues going to deform in the 100F+ weather while it sits outside my house?
>>98343753These are also shit, but for a different reason.You are meant to take those weapons elsewhere or bash them yourself.
>>98343727Are these weapons a homage to oldhammer or forgeworld designs?If not then the designer knows what he is doing.
>>98343766Nothing enrages the tourney troon like "modeling for advantage". Everything must look 1::1 with the latest GW box art
>>98343762>PLEEEASE stop rightfully criticizing the multibillion dollar corporation!!!
>>98343770this is "elsewhere" it is an upgrade kit what are you talking about?
>sun rises on the west coast>shitposting quotient skyrocketsevery day
>>98343763It's crazy how you try to frame an argument like this when you literally are the shitposter and multiple anons besides me have pointed this out already.
>>98343727>no extra heads and arms or whatever extra shit to pad the kid>but the weapon designs are assONE STEP FORWARDTWO STEPS BACK
>>98343769>are the sprues going to deform in the 100F+ weather while it sits outside my house?That temperature will barely affect resin bro
>>98343635How does it poison it? You can still run fluffy scenarios with the fluffiest LAAC lists if you want.Sounds like either a charisma issue to me if you cannot sell a single person on what you profess is your preferred way to play, or the way you want to play just isn't that fun.
>>98343784>multiple anons besides me say you're bad>n-no ignore that there are only ever two posts inside the cooldown disagreeing with youyou will now deflect and try to reframe this yet again
>>98343791>You can still run fluffy scenarios with the fluffiest LAAC lists if you want.By the rules of the game the entire board will be dead by turn 2 and 12 fundamental rules will need to be broken as they were only designed to inflexibly apply to tournament mirror matchesYou are genuinely too retarded to remember how 40k used to work or a newfag
>>98343738Crusade didn't have to be bad. They killed it by keeping it tied to the codex release cycle creating haves and have nots. They also never really balanced the snowball effect that makes all Crusades horrifically imbalanced after a few rounds
>>98343798Crusade was shit because it was an escalation league format pretending to be a campaign format. Nu-40k can't do campaigns anyway after it dropped all the military sci-fi influence and turned it into a tabletop card game with marvel crises protocol stylings.
>>98343791You could always do whatever the fuck you wanted, that isn't the issue being discussed. You are too stupid or too dishonest to get it. Lying and/or retarded faggot. We are watching the average quality and standards for this hobby decay in real time and that's just fine with you... why? The game could be better. GWs handling of it could be better. Nothing needs to cater to tourneytroons.
>>98343780>this is "elsewhere" no, the elsewhere is other kits with spare parts, retard
>>98343790It's not limited to 40k, it's the basic faggot reply to deflect from the issue and shift the blame on you."Just ignore it""Just fix it yourself""Why do you care?""You're just upset / biased"It's all the from the same playbook. Blame and deflect.
It is very funny how you can tell when a guy knows he is beat by just screaming about trannies
>>98343793Not every person is going to reply to you every single time you make a retarded shitpost when we're also in the middle of having conversations with other anons, retard. You are a clown show, not the center of the world.
>>98343770>You are meant to take those weapons elsewhereCombiweapons were notoriously rare to find, with most kits having one or two at best. Sure, kit bashing was possible, but most kit bashing required special weapons which were barely more common. Fielding a full squad of veterans with combiweapons before the godly 6th edition Sternguard kit has always been complicated.
>STOP!!!!! HAVING!!!!!!!!!!!! FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I think I will continue to play in tournaments and have a good time :)
>>98343810don't forget insisting everybody agrees with him
>>98343808this is another kit that gives you spare parts, retard
>>98343810>beatOkay keyboard warrior
>>98343813based fun haver.
>>98343808Like what? Can you name an old kit with more than 1 combiweapon of the same kind?
>>98343809This 100%
I've been thinking about that anon talking about how he comes back from having fun playing 40k to see every thread is the same 5 arguments every day repeated ad nauseam more and more
Why are tourney troons so insecure? They have GW direclty pandering to them 24/7. They have multiple editions made entirely for their sensibilities>Little to no random results>Symmetrical boards>Rigorously defined rules to avoid deliberate troon misinterpretation>All rules related to physical models striped out in favor of Magic the gathering style gameplayIt's their perfect game, yet somehow they throw a little troon fit every time someone complains.
Every poster in this thread is me btw
>>98343813You can play in tournaments without GW writing rules around catering to tourneyfags and worsening the experience for everyone else.
>>98343250That's because Eldar and Sisters players are more likely to know that 35% win rate editions are a thing that happens to them sometimes>>98343360I would and I don't even play IG, SL is my favorite regiment and one of the few canon factions I like enough to play as rather than /myguys/ing it.>>98343827I miss when the slur du jour was "nigger".
>>98343790>>98343814NTA but 1. you did it first and 2. you don't have to follow all the rules.Legalist are retarded. you can come to an agreed alternative ruleset with your opponent. this used to be encouraged. but you need the Authority of GW to have fun.People like you are the morons.
>>98343827we have the same arguments, but you keep coming backdon't you know the definition of insanity anon?
>>98343835stop replying to zero effort shitposters
>>98343829Because their false sense of superiority is all they have, that's why they're tourneytroons in the first place. Trying desperately to win a perfectly symmetrical game of plastic space soldiers to feel like they accomplished something in their pitiful lives.
>>98343832Its better to have a refined ruleset for tournaments, that then can be modified by casuals than the other way around.but casuals like you are too afraid to stray from the rules.
>>98343791because the rules and point are only available online at this point? and the rules and points are only balanced around the tournament play?why don't you play anything but tournament play? if you play any games at all?
>>98343843>Its better to have a refined ruleset for tournaments, that then can be modified by casuals than the other way around.Says fucking who? The tournaments can make their own rules specific to the tourney play.
>>98343830omg no way me also!!!
>>98343523It's a 3-panel comic strip depicting an interaction between Fulgrim and Horus Lupercal from the novel Fulgrim. This anon >>98343531 is just wildly guessing.
>>98343804>average quality and starndards>decayTourniefags forced grey tide niggers into painting their armiesTourniefags made playing by intent and maintaining the game state the norm instead of trying to pull bullshit gotchasThe only thing that has declined are fluffy lists, but even in 3e-5e, fluffy lists were recognized as LAAC compared to what was meta at the time like BA Rhino rushes, melta vet spam, Ward's GK codex, etc. So very little has changed. Fluffy lists were always going to get tabled by stronger lists in the halcyon days of middlehammer.I have my issues with post-8e 40k, but I think the tournament scene has improved the standards of etiquette and painting among players.
>The official rules doesn't affect everyone>The kits and rules are separate, the quality of both are disconnected from each other
>>98343832Anon you don't understand, if the company isn't directly supporting their tournament scene it'll fall apart as they only ever want to play the latest version and treat 40k like a live service video game. If GW stops updating they'll realize the rules and game are ass and drop it. That's why the rules churn is so insanely high. To keep people from noticing its mediocrity.
>>98343845tournament rules tend to be leaner for speed. you can add casual bullshit ontop more easily than strip it away.
>>98343845They basically did, and it salvaged the mess of 7e into something fun.
>>98343852>Tourniefags made playing by intent and maintaining the game state the norm instead of trying to pull bullshit gotchasso fucking delusional and dishonest.name a single good play that isn't rolling a bunch of 6's or isn't a gotcha. it's a competitive game, the only thing you can do is a gotcha.
>>98343861You get em tiger go shit up the other generals you rotate through for the next 14 hours!
>>98343859Basically admitting out loud what everyone else is saying - modern 40k has been dumbed down and stripped of flavor to cater to tourneytrannies because they NEED to make the game worse so they can speedrun 4-5 rounds in one day for a faggot tournament with unpainted styrofoam terrain
>>98343844The rules were balanced for both tournament and narrative play only in so far as they were balanced for neither, they are at least balanced for one now which serves as a baseline.Of all the things were old good new bad is true, balance is not one of them.
james is my friend he knows best :)
someone explain to me why there are 32 ahriman mpreg fanfics on ao3
>>98343872I don't agree. Past 40k is seen with rose tinted glasses since it all came down to final turn. some things were dumbed down, but after over 25 years I'm still playing the game because I find it fun. I play random bullshit casual games all the time with my buddies, and every so often I'll play in a tournament to cut my teeth on the very best. Both can be good. and thinking its a false dichotomy is some internet bullshit.
>"Game" is 90% luck>Skilllmao tourneyfags are the worst. Play a real game.
>>98343890>Make a dice based game for stories and unexpected outcomes>Niggers minmax probabilitiesI hate how dice throwing has been turned into gambling
>>98343882Some attention whore thought it'd be funny.
>>98343882Because the two spiciest ones got banned
So how well do you think GW is doing so far at blending narrative and balanced gameplay together in 11th Edition?
>>98343890Then why do the same people win?
>>98343917Because of luck
>>98343907It's good. I'm doing something other than standing in arbitrary circles. Just knowing I have a task, and my opponent has a (usually) different one adds a lot to the *immersion*.
Vote for "funny/reference" or "make a new unit you wish existed" for the next collage. We need a fun collage like the rekt yiff one.
>>98343945New unit one looks fun
>>98343907pretty good all things considereda lot of autists laughed bitterly at the idea but as long as you aren't a matched play compfaggot it's easier now than it has been in years to just whip up some bullshit fluff list and play it w/ asymmetric goals
>>98343945New unit sounds good to me, that's what i voted for last time.I lost all my mojo after the wolves one
>>98343907Very good. The edition has lot of potential if they don't fuck it with the codexes. I played a few games and while it may seems little just the fact that the average game default to stuff like "you have to take ground and invade the enemy part of the battlefield, the opponent instead has to hold his ground and stop you" adds a lot to the game. Gameplay changes were few but generally all made sense, battlefields now look like battlefields, you can do a list while saying "this is a light scouting force" or "this is a heavy armoured spearhead" and have that reflect in what they actually do.
>ASTARTES WITH A SHOTGUN
>>98344000READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING->>>>> >>98343727
>>98344000wish they did bits packs like this for other armies
Is there a box that's like, one of each? I want missile launchers, lascannons and combi-plasmas but that's 3 boxes.I think a few necromunda upgrade sprues might work? they're not that much smaller.
>>98344018necromunda is your friend, I bought the cawdor upgrade pack for genestealers.
40K sisters...we losted again...
>>98344035Wait I thought we were getting a new mini today. That is a weird looking ork...
>>98344035nobody likes ogor fatties
>>98343907Assymetric missions are fun but we should probably nerf purge a little. Things feel a lot more thematic and mixing detachments feels good IF you have meaningful choices.I hope they really expand the 1dpers you can get to make it super flexible.
I just want GW to tell me if the Marines codex is coming in August or September.How long do I have before I am free from Oath of Moment?
It's very funny how the worst poster in this thread is obsessed with his babby's first /pol/ reaction images and doesn't understand just how much it makes him stand out.
>>98344051>I hope they really expand the 1dpers you can get to make it super flexible.The Ork codex preview showed that they have like a dozen detachments of which a single one is 3dp, so that's probably going to happen
>>98344061>Don't be a daft cunt>L-lol u m-mad?Fuck off child. Grow a pair and own up to your lazyness.
>>98343531The OG way is that he got an evil sword, just like in the HH novel. It's not hard to find a PDF of Lost and the Damned. It's five paragraphs of reading at most.
>>98343631what were the armies?
I just learned of the RAL and FS color standard charts. I think Vallejo, AK and Tamiya followed them. Did Citadel paints for warhammer follow those charts too? Does this work for metallic colors too? I’m not sure to be honest. I have my eyes on nostalgia88 metallic paints after seeing them mentioned.
>>98344063It's September anon.
>>98344051I've won on primary in every game against purge so far. And lost them all, but still...
>>98344087Was this confirmed somewhere? Am I just bad at google?
>>98344089They did a q&a and made it a video for some retarded reason
>>98344087No it's Patrick July
>>98344092Oh, okay - I didn't watch that video and didn't see anyone post a transcript.Thanks, anon.
>>98344083Five paragraphs for many youths is too much these days. And for me too many times.How many of you freed yourselves?Also how close are armypainter metallics tone wise to the citadel counterparts? I know about pot to dropper transfer. I just would rather not as bulk dropper bottle caps seem to break too quickly. Ap caps may be more forgiving.Unless there is some magic about AK interactive’s 3rd gen caps. Never had one break on me.
>>98343383I don't know what people are complaining about, I'd be down for a new gigantic mining drill but aside from that the model range is pretty good. The rules kinda suck but who cares, they'll change eventually.
>>98344089Nothing comes out in August. The 10fh edition space marine codex came out in SeptemberThe 9th edition in October8th edition in July7th edition June
>>98344100AP metallics are just as grainy and shitty as GW ones. Vallejo make good silvers, Scale 75 for coloured metallics.
>>98344082Farming (you)'s is the game, playa.What? Am i not allowed to post freely, or are (you) going to be a pedantic copper about it?
>>98344000enjoy the tiny baby hands that don't look right on any 40k marines since heresy is in some dogshit new scale
>>98343907I think the main flaw right now is the "mission selected by disposition vs disposition" thing.It sounds good on paper, but outside of a tournament setting it means you'll be playing the exact same mission multiple times against your friend because neither of you will switch your lists up that much.
>>98344114Thanks!>stahly chartIs that the latest? Can you share the pdfs you have?
>>98344114scale75 is dead, get with the times
>>98344120Nobody is going to put them on primaris anyway because primaris units don't use combiweapons with the sole exception of Sternguards which already have them
>>98344129>scale75 deadWhat happened?
>>98344139they won't look right on CSM either
>>98344129Plunder the corpse, the metallics are great.
>>98344114So metallic acrylic paints have any standardization like how historical colors do from history autists mimicking the colors of army uniforms and vehicle colors?
>>98343965Same. I went all out and I still haven't recovered. I need a fun theme to get back in the saddle. Still, it was great seeing all of /40kg/ unite in yiff hatred. Want one with those vibes again.
>>98344147quality went down the toilet and they started a new shittier company called avante art for north america
>>98344163Well that sucks.Thanks for letting me know.
Where is the 40k reveal?
>>98344151CSM are the same scale of new HH models
>>98343383I really like the gsc vehicles. How likely am I going to be told I can’t use them (converted) for my guard army in casual games even after telling opponent he can use his homebrew/conversion proxies from other armies for his army?
>>98344084it was old world so bretonia, high elves, vampire counts, lizardmen and chaos
>>98344193That is a nice plasma glow.I prefer one that mimics lit flames though.Anybody here know a good tutorial that covers flame plasma.I’m indecisive on classic metal coils or flame colored plasma if a retard proof tutorial for painting them can be found.
>>98344180they forgot about itmaybe a half hour?
>>98344018The money i would pay for a Necron weapon pack would be bigger than 1/100th of Trazyn's Museum
>>98344180They just showed off a new ogryn rough rider
>>98344193No they aren'tThey're the same heightCompare the scale of the helmets, backpacks, hands, and weapons, they're all differentHH is closer to "truescale" than anything in 40k and it looks like fucking dogshit
>>98344180Still polling results! Every ballot must be counted!
>>98344121This is basically the Flames of War system, which I quite liked. Maybe it breaks under 40k's less restrictive construction system.
>>98344070
>>98344159None of the hobby brands standardise anything, and even the ones that deliberately try to colour match GW (like Two Thin Coats) usually don't get it dead on.
>>98344114Colored metallics it's better to just use Vallejo Metal Color Silver and tint it with Contrast or AP Speedpaint.
>>98344292jfc no it isn't
>>98344226You are deranged
>>98343343The Guard broke before the dataslate did
>>98344298yes it is, hobbylet
>>98344309>gets BTFO>y-you're crazythis isn't the hobby for you if you're this blind
>>98343383>>98344103I could do with one more infantry beast or mounted kit desu, other than that I love being the most feared opponent in the galaxy.
>>98344327>strawmanning
>>98344346that's not what that fallacy means
>>98344327Oh no someone made up shit and said I got BTFO by thatHow could I ever copeThis>>98344346 is not me btw before you start crying samefag
>>98344358>made up shityou ARE blind
>>98344314KWAB
>>98344314If is a bit weird seeing someone own up to making a mistake online in any capacity these days.
>>98344366Or maybe I am not deranged
>>98344383You still have time to pull the "I was merely pretending to be retarded" cardYou don't have to spend the next hour crashing out over being wrong
I'm starting to think they did this Siege of Deathmire thing expecting the Orks to win like the Tyranids did and none of the space marine minis have their studio paintjobs finished yet.
>>98344281I understand that there will be deviation. Even among rivet counting but for historical acrylic paints.It is about making sure that “close enough but unironically” approximates can easily be found if that makes sense.Citadel paints are the standard for fantasy focused colors and historical is everything else but I think metallics don’t have that. Tamiya metals might be what others mimic when they mimic their paints. Oddly enough I think tamiya’s pots are better than citadel’s yet it makes me wonder what went wrong with the boltgun shell caps.
>>98344389Post comparisons then. Show me this difference between CSM hands and new HH hands.
>>98344292>tint with contrast or speedpaintHow about regular inks mixed into the silver on the palette instead? I’ve never done this to be honest. I think either method does tone down the metallic shine.
>>98344389
When will GW reveal the campaign winners?
My collection's up to 20 CSM legionaries and a rhino. What next?
>>98344408nigger it's in your image are you really this blind>>98344424third partying faggot desperate for attention
>>98343274Working on some guns
NO THE PROPORTIONS ARE ALL DIFFERENT AAAAGenuine Crippling Autism.Take nasal oxytocin.
>>98344429Holy shit
>>98344442>yes that's a shotgun why are we quoting
Retardation in this thread is satisfactory
Are Space Marines stupid?
>>98344429
>>98343309My tism demands that when I make a guard list it has to follow some kind of logical force organization. For example, the next 2k guard list im gonna try.Engineer platoon-cadian command squad--Nork Deddog-Engineer Squad (10 man)-Engineer squad (10 man)-Heavy weapons squad with flamethrowrwSpecial forces platoon-Cadian castellan-Kasrkin squad-Kasrkin squas-Aqualon squad Recon platoon-Guants ghosts-recon squad-recon squad-scout sentinel (2 walkers)Heavy tank platoon-Dorn tank commander-Dorn battle tank-Artillery platoon-Heavy mortar-Heavy mortar-Heavy mortar
>>98344193They are not. I just bought some MkVI dudes to bash up with my CSM and they are considerably different in scale. About the same height, but the HH models are thinner, mainly in the chest.
>>98344445my apologies sir I meant to post my reaction to seeing the shotgun which I have handily included attached to this post
>>98344430Right’s wheel is a bit bent. Can that be fixed?Good taste in barrels.Hope they turn out good.Are Krieg army units kept separate from cadian army lists so there are instances where Krieg stubbers can’t be used in a cadian army even if conversions are made to “fix” that? My lgs has rules lawyers everywhere. Even in casual play. I blame tourney mentality seeping and soaking casual play.
>>98344458We were talking about hands and weapons.
>>98344472Well, those *are* compatible. The main issue is with mixing torsos and backpacks.
>stop ganging up on me
>>98344427Chaos Lord & Dark Apostle aka Chaplain to lead Chainsword Legionnaires.
>>98344457My autism makes me try to make a hybrid guard army of being fluffy and competitive if such a thing can be achieved.I don’t want my dudes to be a pushover so my opponent feels like things were too easy and thus time wasted. At the same time I like my army’s unit composition being as close as how I want them to be in the universe of 40k.
I miss the old defiler Straight from the go defilerChop up the soul defilerSet on his goals defilerI hate the new defilerThe always rude defilerThe bad mood defiler
>>98344469Not sure what you mean, Cadian heavy weapon squads and Krieg heavy weapon squads are indeed two different datasheets, but you are never stopped from taking either, the only thing is that there might be some synergies you might be missing out on, but nothing major.
>>98344469>Are Krieg army units kept separate from cadian armyI model my "krieg" units as cadians and no one has ever given me issue. And ive taken these models to adepticon tournaments.Also Il look at the wheel later.
>>98344429Good on you for backing up your claims
>>98344314God redditors are so pathetic I just despise the way they talk at all, this is so cringe and self-important. "Just heap the abuse on me and no one else" who even is this random nigger that thinks he's the personal Jesus of other redditors?
>>98343945>too retarded to come up with a new unit>tried two different joke collages and the punchline was barely visible because of how shrunk so muchsorry anon, I can’t go again.
>>98343945New unit is brilliant.
>>98344469>Are Krieg army units kept separate from cadian army lists so there are instances where Krieg stubbers can’t be used in a cadian army even if conversions are made to “fix” that?What the actual fuck are you even asking?
Where is our new model????
>>98344596either 20 minutes from now or tomorrow
>>98344430>Been waiting for a whole month for my package to be shipped>Can't ship it since the store doesn't have artillery teams anymore
>>98344596>just checked and saw the ogor article>the "unquestionably most powerful amd influential ogor" is a femaleLol, lmaoEven evil and fat fucking ogors got DEI'd
>>98344617You have to come back when the warhammer guy is there
Why does every warhammer content creator have such dogshit taste in models? Kieran show, poorhammer, vince, etc. Putting things like Mortarion or Norn Emissary in top 5 models in all of 40k? Really???
How is storage so expensive for GW that they're ok with smaller stores selling at a 20% mark down? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
>>98344450yes
>>98344652>Norn Emissary>not a top 5 modelAre you fucking gayHave you seen the sick level of detail 9n that thing
Yesterday I asked for some colour scheme advice in the last 40k thread. Thank you to the anons who told me to go with blue over black for the armor, I really like the result when highlighted!
>>98344637The warhammer guy is there, it's the warhammer that's not there.Anon's greed sickens me.>>98344654GW takes a 60% cut from those retailers
>>98344035>>98344630That's a woman?
>>98344654As a manufacturer GW gets to offload 90% of their production to independent retailers day one. Huge savings in transport, storage and distribution, while stores take on the financial burden of having unsold stock on shelves. Margins and revenues remain consistent. It's a fantastic way to run a business. They only have high street store for advertising and entry ramps for new customers, and have been very aggressive with performance targets, if a location doesn't perform something has to change. Games Workshop wouldn't survive if it had to sell all its own models through its own retail businesses. Trade partners give them reach and customers access.
>>98344630GW truly can't help themselves and AoS gets it the worst because 40K and WFB are slightly harder to fuck with.I guess we should be grateful for a containment system.
>>98343173lack of chaos is disappointing. I hope when we do eventually get added i can just spam rubric marines and terminator sorcerers out the ass.
>>98344719yephere another one
>>98344739nta but that one actually looks like a womanand it's for RP so why not
>>98343250Eldarfags cry on the inside
Put Org Charts back in and make them Guard only. We have apps now, so the "players are too retarded to understand them" excuse is dead.Make each Org have its own detachment rules to pick from, so a Heavy Support chart would have X, Y, and Z detachment rules to pick from, etc. and make them all 1 point detachments to allow for 2 orgs in 1k, 3 charts in 2k, etc.There, I fixed Guard.
>>98344784red body, black head, purple instead of green accents
What are reverse CSM Legions like?>Living Guard>enjoys reseeding planets with life and guarding wildlife>World Makers>has implants so they never feel angry>Emperor's Fathers>spreads anti-drug PSAs and provides father figures for orphans>Thousand Daughters>the biggest supporters of the Sisters of Silence and all Blanks that their legion is named after their goal to make each Sos have thousands of offspring
>>98344739greta thunberg if she meal
>>98344843>Day Lords>Omega Legion
malcador wanted female primarchs
>>98344868With huge boobs
>>98344843>Blue Privateers>They barely do any fighting, they just search, escort, or seize civilian cargo ships>Day Lords>Gene-seed mutations cause them to grow rabbit ears and talk like they just got done huffing helium>Omega Legion>Fleet-based chapter whose ships have special engines that can be detected from anywhere in the galaxy, meaning that everyone knows where they are at all times
>>98344868he was too based for 40k
So where are the week 3 results?
>GW got distracted after only two weeks of the campaign eventLike it'd be one thing if they said, "hey, results are on break for a week while we focus on a major AoS release on the community site" but I can't find anything.
>>98344868
Why is it Astra Militarum but then just Traitor Guard
do you think Iron Warriors would turn loyalist if Rogal Dorn came back and started that civil war with Gorilla Man?
>>98344868>malcadorliterally who
>>98344947Notheyd just make the fists fight a war on 2 fronts
>>98343145I really like that the new sculpts have the orks' teeth sticking out with their mouths closed. It's probably the one real issue I had with the last wave of models, the Wartrike Speedboss probably being the worst example.
>gw rigging their own game because people keep clowning on them for the smurf revealsjust give us the codex and move on james
Does anyone know a good 3D printed ranged for Drukhari? I like the traditional pointy/sharp kabal warriors and raiders' barges
Bros... I miss Draigo. Over time, the cringe matured like fine wine into sovl.
>>98344932One is a real army and the other isnt
>>98344932Presumably GW feels that the Astra Militarum trademark would also cover Traitor Astra Militarum so they're comfortable giving the traitor guardsmen a generic name
>>98344000Cmon James let intercessor sergeants take comis with the new rules like orks.
>>98344991>the zoomer inquisitor from that one animationgross
schizo takei hate the idea of female space marines not because "woke"i hate them for the same reason i hate grey knights and tech marinesits taking yet another unique imperium factions whole thing and cramming it into the space marines
>>98344974holy shit, I always thought his mouth was just covered by the jaw. this looks so bad, like he’s actively shitting himself.
if you were isekaid into 40k, how fast would you make a deal with Tzeench?
>>98344630I want Catachans but I know GW is going to insist that they be 50% female and the kit will suffer either from forced female builds or from multi-part kits that don't quite look right because the one limiting part (probably legs) needs to work with both male and female models. Catachans in particular are also tricky because you can't just get away with different heads because they wear little-to-no armor and barely any clothes on their upper bodies.
>>98345015I don't like those top magazines
>>98345039>sweaty buff jungle women in tanktops and headbandsyes please
hey guys i just made my newest OC chapter tell me what you think!>super edgy red and black color scheme>heavily influenced by gothic architecture and blood>their primarch was amazing and beautiful and everyone loved him>whenever they think about how he died they get really angry and go berserker mode>they have a dark secret... they turn into vampires and drink people's blood and no one can find out or else>like vampires they're all about moving fast and doing lots of close combat fighting>their chapter master has a cool name and is based off of a Renaissance writer, I was thinking something Italian like "Machiavelli"Can someone help me name them? I was thinking something that reflected their vampyric tendencies and the aesthetics. Maybe Blood Gargoyles or Red Angels?
>>98345053ultra smurf hands typed this
>>98345040I'd like them more if they acutaly bothered to offset the sights to the side to account for the fact that the magazine blocks it>>98345053sovlfvl and based
>>98345028The Big Mek model seems to be where they finally figured it out. The toothless old man head is on the box, but they also give you a more classic toothy ork head as an option, which looks a lot better in my opinion.
>>98345028>>98345066they spent all their teef on scrap
>>98345000Cults 3d has a few I think, though not sure how good they arehttps://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/armored-warriors-cursed-elves
>>98345072>>98345000There used to be some 1-to-1 boats for printing but now the only ones you can find easily are the old Forgeworld ones.https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/evil-space-elf-pleasure-bargeThere are some original designs of course but those are all a bit more spiky and deviate from the GW ones.
So GW kinda forgot they promised the last reveal today
>>98345053Noah! That's just like my own chapter OC!>color is blue and black >they're also vampires, but like, SUPER evil and want people to know it so they put bat wings on everything>their primarch is called Comrade Cursed and he had the super power to see into the future, but he was cursed to only see the bad stuff, but also he's always smart and right about things sucking>they realized the emperor sucked just like my dad when he threw out my Hybrid Theory CDs so they joined chaos>idk what planet they came from so i watched the matrix and thought the ship name was cool so they come from Nostromo>because the setting is super dark and stuff, they like to use bladed weapons to tear people apart and wear their body parts as clothes and shit
>>98345053Luv bold angles
I want to make blood angel revenants csm
>>98344771>I fixed guards by giving it a hunch of restrictions and nothing else
>>98343352It's "Temporary out of stock" in north america.Guard players are dumb.
>>98345091Small british company, please understand
>>98345091Valrak said they are waiting for more votes to come in in the hopes it will result in a win for Orks (why that is I'm not sure). Maybe they expect 200,000 votes to come in the middle of the night like Biden.
>>98343727>automatic shotgunWhy can't we have that in space marine 2 game?
>>98343352The best commissar model isn't even a commissar
>>98345110That's dumb, it not like they can't just make up the results
>>98345053>>98345093you can make a coldsteel edit of any character or faction in warhammer and it'll fit perfectly
>>98345110GW can just fake the results to be whatever they want. I'm pretty sure they've done it before.Doesn't really bode well for their confidence in whatever's next for Space Marines if true, though.
>>98345117>>98345053>>98345093Why can't people enjoy this shit unironically? Why do we gotta say it's cringe or too much? Are we scared of having fun?
How much trouble am I in?https://www.newrecruit.eu/app/list/K8JLB
>>98345110They can just riggi them lol that's a retarded take
>>98345117was archaon orginally a rape baby?
>>98345110they can and will just rig them to end the campaign in a draw
>>98345117archaon won
>>98345090>>98345072Thanks
>>98345114>>98345142>>98345118They probably saw the salt from last week's reveal being an Ultramarines character and are trying to make up some bullshit in order to not show off another Ultramarines-specific model as a reward. >inb4 a new Calgar
>>98345128Just because you enjoy something doesn't mean you can't laught at some aspects of it. I'll be honest if I saw one of these about my factions I would unironically laught about it and go "yep, those are my boys".
>>98343570okay, i'm not obsessed i swear, but I went out and bought the 3rd commander I needed, and then instantly built and magnetized it so that I can hopefully get it painted sooner rather than later.
>>98345128I enjoy it but I just thought it was funny in a meta sense that people ham hard on OCs that try hard to be "different" or "edgy" when the game is already full of OCs that are different and edgy>my dude is a chaos sorcerer that's the most powerful mortal ever and he hates his patron godAhriman>my primarch is [insert whatever]literally any of them in one way or another can fit whatever you'd cram in the text box>my commissar is actually an amazing dude and all his IG dudes love him and he bangs women all the time and he never losesCain>my elf is the most powerful elf psyker ever and has the power to resurrect gods in her fight against chaos Yvraine>my dude is the king of all of chaos and the most powerful chaos space marines ever and is secretly the bastard child of Horus and will beat the empireNot Abaddon cuz he's a bitch.
>>98345159Again, that bullcrap because they would just reveal the orks otherwise. It's more probable something dumb but corporate like a conflict in Warhammer community schedules.
It says draw two tactical seconday missions in my command phase. I assume just the command phase of my first turn? Not ever turn? This is a bit unclear.
Wish admech had more chunkies like the myrmidons in 30k for admech. With 40k admech you're either a tank built around a man or a twink in a red bathrobe and/or gimp suit with optional inspector gadget parts
>>98345159they were JUST winding up a new gulliman model
>>98345172Every turn
>>98345053Nice let me tell you about mine>They're chaos space marines but they don't worship chaos or anything>They are part of the black legion but only nominally and they have their own emblem>It's the flag of their homeworld and its a cool place, not so bad to live in, and the lord of the warband is kind of Shogun to the systems civillian governor>They go on cool adventures and pick up other random renegades and traitors throughout their travels but the core is still that sick black legion trim
>>98345180This sounds pretty cool, I've got an idea for a new faction>Basically humans but green>They all love fighting
>>98344932You can be sure if they ever make traitor guard a full army GW will rename them some bullshit.
>>98344932Warpa Militarum
>>98345205Their true slave name has already been mentioned in the lore as Hereticus Militarum or Traitoris Militarum.
>>98344035>>98344739Is GW gonna add female ogryns to 40k soon too? That'd be the next logical step.
>>98345254>Clitoris MilitarumIs was over before it even began
>>98345159Still not sure what the big deal about Calgar is? His old model was 8 years old already and the only reason it got updated is because GW cancelled squatting terminators.
Take me back.Been looking for both for a bit and got them together cheaply
>>98345259Imagine being raped by a squad of female ogryns
>>98345273Abaddon had the same model for 30 years.
>>98345285Yeah but people act like Calgar gets a new model every 6 months.
>>98345128Being afraid of being cringe is a good thing in moderation. I went off the deep end and did nothing in my teens. So I never developed creativity or imagination if I had any and my peak creativity muscles if any exist is for warhammer 40k homebrew stuff and reusing things I find cool.
>>98345300>Being afraid of being cringe is a good thing in moderation.Fear tries to talk to you, but fear should not control you
>>98345300>OOOO NOOOO PEOPLE WILL THINK I'M CRINGE NOOOOOgrow a pairdumbass goy
>>98345285Is there any official firstborn wrecked helmet trophy to replace the primaris helmet on the plastic Abby? I could greenstuff the fallen primaris marine into a big rock. I just want an Abby that wouldn’t look out of place pre-primaris when it was just firstborn marines and post primaris era.The csm terminators with their pre-kneepad cadian helmet trophies give me this autism too.
>>98345278>eldar fan with hairy legsI guess this photo was taken before you went to the spas
>>98345306>>98345307Too late for this advice. Maybe ten years ago it would have helped.
>>98345311a 300lb guard player typed this post
>watch aeronautica imperialis shorts>actually get successfully advertised to and am now interested in aeronautica imperialis >the game is dead>the video game is dead (literally removed from sale)What's an anon to do? Play dakka squadron and cope?
>>98345326>>watch aeronautica imperialis shorts>>actually get successfully advertised to and am now interested in aeronautica imperialis>>the game is deadLiterally me. I'm so pissed. What the fuck was GW thinking killing off the game and then making (expensive) animations to advertise it after it's already dead?? I fucjing hate the retards that run this company so much.
>>98344397The boltgun shell caps were way too loosely threaded so air entered easily and dried out the paint. Hard plastic cap with hard plastic bottle instead of soft plastic cap+hard plastic bottle+interference keep it airtight.
>>98345027Grey Knights and Techmarines have existed for longer than 90% of other 40k units and factions you retard. Since Rogue Trader.
>>98344412Never really tried that. Contrast generally works better than Speedpaint as it's more transparent but Speedpaint Sand Golem is the go-to for getting gold done easily.
>>98344739Average antifa footsoldier kek
>>98345340Based
>>98345337Were the colors of the era at least the best tones? Warcolours mimics those.But I am learning in favor of coat d’arms because they’re easier to get in Canada. I didn’t say easy as restock is slower.>>98345342Thanks.I asked about mixing inks with metallics on the palette because I already have a good number of artist acrylic inks. DR and Liquitex to make washes. It was a nice project but I plan to stick with hobby ones but I now have diy backup.Now I need a diy backup for pro acryl’s “newsh” medium.
>>98345340Codex Techmarines when?
>>98345351when are they bringing back the hand wrench and oil can?
>>98345336They did far worse with Total Warhammer. Got everyone interested in the original setting right after they blew the world up and moved to Age of Sigmar.
>>98345110STOP THE COUNT!
>>98345364None of the "interested" were willing to buy anyway.
>>98345386They were when TOW rolled out
>>98345326Is there an archive of all 40k vidya that are abandonware before I have to sail the piracy seas?I want the games for their background music as even bad games have music worth somethingI figured warhammer vidya music would be good background noise for painting minis.Same goes for the warmahordes video game but I think the music is already uploaded. Didn’t the battlesector vidya game straight up recreate the webstore models?>>98345336I think James wanted to give wfb a digital send off as they believed it was not gonna do well and then things blew up.Or maybe they already had the contracts to make the wfb games to “save it” but then ceo decided after to wipe the slate with a new warhammer fantasy setting.But the contracts for wfb vidya weren’t nulled and still went forward.
>>98345172there's 5 phases to every turncommandmovementshootingchargefight
>>98345351>3 for 2.50pExplain to me why we have cheaper material and higher throughput and prices are 10x this now.
>>98345441This question is anti-semitic.
Gentlemen, please be informed that I have bought into manlet Space Wolves today.
>>98345441Without defending GW, inflation and plastic injection molds being way, way more expensive than the silicon molds used for white metal casting. GW having a trillion stores also doesn't help.
>>98345441I can't rationalize shit like characters being like 50 pounds, but for the others that's about what they cost now accounting for inflation>box of 10 squad is around 40-50p or 4-5p per character>this scan is from the 90s and inflation has gone up about 2.5x since then
>>98345434There's actually 8 phases now
>>98345461>inflation Scam.>injection molds being way, way more expensive than the silicon moldsInjection mold got so cheap you can call Wargames Atlantic and commission a custom plastic kit to be manufactured for you.
>>98345451What do you plan on doing with yours, Anon? I have an entire chapter of the Grey Hunter/Blood Claw sculpts that are not-Wolves /mydudes/ with a canine motif.
>>98345441>>98345441>why we have cheaper material and higher throughput and prices are 10x this now.
>>98345461And the Yookay has high energy prices and some pretty wild NIMBYism. GW insists on doing things in the Yookay because doing it China created a massive recasting headache. The UK alongside South Africa is one of the few countries to have power generation decrease over the last decade. If it weren't for Britain effectively being the Silicon Valley of miniature wargaming, it is one of the worst places you can imagine to start a company that makes toy soldiers.
>>98345523Didn't they have a plant in the US that they shut down?
>>98345386I bought a High Elves army when TOW came out.None of my friends play, but I've wanted to own High Elves since I first discovered the hobby in college 13 years ago.
>>98345488I want to build a singleton army - one copy of each unit. I already got Thunderwolf Cavalry, Wolf Guard Termies and 25 Blood Claws/Grey Hunters. I want to get 10 more dudes to field a full squad of Claws and Hunters each, Wolfguard (as Sternguard) and Skyclaws (as Vanguard Vets). Not sure what HQ units should I kitbash/convert.
>>98345474No wonder modern 40k is full of fags
WHO HERE GSC AND WHO HERE JUST?
>>98345326>>98345336>some imperial minis get pushed into legion>xenos aircraft and base defense minis are gone forever along with the only game that would expand on them or show them off at allI wish I had bought up all the ork and tau vehicles just to have them. I like aircraft at that scale
>>98345651More like just don't play 11th.
>>98345660I was planning to buy every set in the game once they released Tyranids so I could loan out the other factions to my opponents to get people to play with me and GW shitcanned the entire fucking game before even releasing any little nids because I guess they hate money.
>>98345666Everyone i know has moved onto 11th, no one is going back
>>98345674I mean 10th was the worst edition out of all 11 so that's understandable but I mean get people to play an even older edition.
>>98345682I'm not going to convince the local brainrotted compfags to play an older edition, its just not happening
>>98345672I'm really hoping that when GW's new factories get built that they'll have the capacity to put some of these side games back into production.
Played a game of 40k. Realize now why more people are interested in every other aspect of 40k except for the actual game.
>>98345693Loser mentality, no wonder you're not winning games.
>>98345693>brainrotted compfagsYou shouldn't be playing with trash like that at all, anon. Find better friends. Playing with competitiventryhards isn't even really playing 40k anyways, it's so devoid of the spirit of the actual game it's a waste of time.
>>98345697Did you get any battlefield shots of your models fighting at least?
>>98345701Kys>>98345704There's a handful of chill people but none of them would want to play older editions
>>98345712Why not, is it because you're already defeated in your own mind you excuse yourself from even making an attempt?
>>98345709If anyone tried that shit with my guys I'd punch them in the teeth. Not letting my models feature in your gay reddit post.
>>98345723I've asked before, that's why anon. Do you play older editions with your friends?
>>98345738>Do you play older editions with your friendsYeah, occasionally my mates and I play some 5th Ed games since that's the edition most of us started playing and we all still have our old armies.
>>98345732Le ecks dee tough guy XDXD
>>98345744I want to see a photo of these old games
What happens to human souls in this universe, assuming no Warp/magic fuckery happens?
Which combat patrols are most evenly matched against each other, assuming no mirror matches?
>>98345758>>98345777Gay questions
>>98345758you still join the cacophony of souls in the warp, maybe you'll be lucky and your [self] dissolves so you won't be a daemon's toy.
>>98345755I'm not sure if I've got any on hand so I'll hit up the GC to see if anyone has some, most of my mates have been getting into HH 2.0, so here's some grey tide game pics in the mean time.
>>98345732>I'm so tough I'm scared of posting my modelsWay to out yourself
>>98345786Comfy
>>98345682>I mean 10th was the worst edition out of all 117th>Inb4 if you remove most codexes, bin half of the core elements and heavily limit list building then it's playable
>>98345795you're incorrectly assuming he even has any
The red corsairs hype didn't last long
>>98345795>>98345818I accept your concessions.
>>98345820fast churn and they came out just in time to gather some data to get some nerfs, overshadowed by defilers and detachments overtaken by renegades and whatever made the best use of defilers
We've had Blood Angel's that think they're Ultramarines. What about Space Wolves that think they're Blood Angels?
>>98345827>chaosfagEvery time
>>98345820They are simply something only a niche of a niche of players have an interest in. Once the shiny new thing effect went away people simply didn't care.
>>98345682That would be 6th or 7th as the nadir of 40k, where both sales and sentiment were down.
>>98345820why should I give a fuck about chaos marines that arent even very chaosy? They look lame as fuck and might as well should have been a regular ultramarine addition for all I give a shit about. ALSO MK3, BLEGH. FUCKING DISGUSTING.
>>98345801>>Inb4 if you remove most codexes, bin half of the core elements and heavily limit list building then it's playableAnd that's what makes it better than 10th. There's nothing you can remover or change about 10th to make it good. You need to scrap all of it.
>>98345827It's nice to see you've overcome you agrivated social anxiety, NW anon can't wait until they're done.But don't you have to punch yourself in the teeth now?
>>98345874Removing all of that stuff from 7th doesn't make it good, it makes it playable. 10th edition is playable out of the box. You might not like it (I didn't) but at least it's a functional game that actually, you know, works.
>>98345820>5 basic bitch models for $65 lollmao
>>98345840>everytimeexcept when its a marinefag, or an eldarfag, or an orkfag, or a necronfag, or a guardfag.
>>98345827>he posted modelsI kneel…
>>98345820Too expensive for boxes of 5 minis dunno wtf they were expecting
>>98345936>>98345943>08:08:10>08:09:12You really couldn't help yourself
>>98345955Do we still say 'rent free' on this website?
>>98345968>screenshothownew.jpg
>>98345955I like to split up my replies, but if you’re accusing me of being >>98345827 then you’re wrong. I just respect anyone who posts models, and have the opinion that being a hothead isn’t chaosfag exclusive.
>>98345543Pretty cool stuff. The Termies are great. I highly recommend the Games Day Wolf Priest for HQ.
>>98345543>Not sure what HQ units should I kitbash/convert.It's your chance anon
Do you guys buy your army's codex? For rules I feel like it's useless when things always change even within the same edition, and I rather use Wahapedia for the rules instead of the official app.But it just looks cool.
Quick rules question. are you able to target a unit or warlord in reserve with a strategem? I thought you could not since ti seemed similar to not being able to target units in a transport, but maybe I am wrong. This is mainly about some necron abilities.
>>98346018yes but I have money, just want it for art/fluff, and I would never recommend someone not in a very good position buy it.
>>98346026Technically you can, see Rapid Ingress.
>>98346037I kind of thought rapid ingress had that baked in as the exception rather than the norm. I just kind of thought the necron overlord had to be visible on the field to be targeted,, but looking at it it does not say that specifically. Seems weird and it does not help when every game I see it seems to be played differently.
>>98346018I used to, but they're useless before they even hit the shelves now, and there's a good chance the info in them is just missing or misprinted even without a day 0 FAQ. GW's quality control on their printed media is just too shit to justify spending the money on a codex.
>>98346043What unit and strategem are you curious about if you don't mind me, I'd like to take a look myself.
>>98346049Reanimation crypts.
should 5 man squads of fire dragons go in a falcon or a wave serpent?
I would pay a pretty penny for someone to make me one of these. I'm lazy but have money. Are they easy to make?
>>98346076they are fucking hard to make, you will make a huge mess, it will be a pain to store and move, and it will not look anywhere near as good as this doesfind some napoleonic wargame boomer to make one for you for five hundred dollars
>>98346090I'm sure I can find a boomer in Dallas, TX. Many nerds over here.
>>98346055I've been looking at it and now I'm curious as to how it works as well. It doesn't say anything about your model being in the reserves or in the battlefield, so going by "rules as written" I'd say you can. But what do I know.
>Color forge base coat color spray>Block in details>Wash>DoneGets my minis playable and that's all I need.
The psychic phase? Never heard of her.
>>98345973How does this text relate to most of these guys being full blown leaders of their respective legions anno 2026? Retcon or plot development?
>>98346140Didn't mean to do that. How embarassing.
>>98346026>>9834610201.02.04Not On The BattlefieldA unit that is embarked within a TRANSPORT or that is in strategic reserves is not on the battlefield. The following applies to such units: That unit is not (exactly) visible to any other (exactly) units (units are visible to themselves). Any other unit is not (exactly) visible to that unit. Players cannot measure distances to or from that unit (units are within range of their own abilities).This means units not on the battlefield cannot be selected or targeted by any attack or rule that requires a unit to be visible or within a certain distance (other than their own abilities).Such units can still use their other rules, and are still units in the controlling player's army and so can be affected by rules that require a player to select a unit from an army, as well as rules that affect all units in an army.The controlling player must make battle-shock rolls for units that are not on the battlefield in their Command phase if they are battle-shocked, or if they are at or below half-strength.
I haven't looked at the new rules but given that units can move 3" and still keep their heavy bonuses, when a unit comes from strat reserve / deep strike does it count as moving more than 3"? Also going to the 1st floor of buildings using gw terrain, is that further than 3"?
>>98346165Heavy does not work when coming from reserves. Floors are 3" tall, if the models move directly up then technically they're moving exactly 3" so the bonus should still work. But you need to be precise.
>>98346140answer would be great rift since Fallen Primarch was pretty rare occurance before and now they have way more playfield and its still mostly because the god invests enough in them. Look at perturabo who tries to bruteforce himself without patronage so Cadian Gate campaign is drawn out specifically to amass more sacrifice to let him through
>>98346177Ty anon. Just thinking of how to place neophytes to gain heavy + plunging fire, id prefer it if the heavy weapons models died in my turn so I can revive them on the top floor as opposed to moving them and not gaining the heavy bonus if they are too far away
>>98346187I play GSC as well and that's a great idea. I'm used to reviving models towards objectives to gain control of them at the end of the command phase but this is devilish.
>>98346195its even worse in that 1 dp detachment, with the potential to revive 9 fucking models in one turn we can put a fuck tonne of OC on an objective
>tfw had someone at my lgs tell me that my gsc looked like spiderman
>>98345093>Hybrid Theory mentionedGOATed album
>>98346216Tell them they're idiots, it's the cult of Man-Spider
>>98346238It's cult of the six-armed emperor not eight, praise the patriarch
>>98346216They look better than that.
>>98346216he should watch less spiderman
I'm new to the hobby. Can somebody suggest any good channels about gameplay and the matches? I tried Play On Tabletop, and holy fuck they are annoying. This fucking forced banter and these "a nerd tries to be cool, but too hard" vibes. Not to mention the music and the commentator. People don't behave like that in real life.
>>98346362They are all like that, you need professional actors if you want people who can be pleasing in front of a camera.
>>98346362Winters SEO.
>>98346362Personally I like Skaredcast (Skari) but he's very Dark Eldar focused. I just appreciate that his battle reports are truncated to focus on the discussion of tactics for both armies more than the actual rolls or banter. They're concise enough to keep the tempo moving but thorough and frequent enough to see the evolution of his strategy through what he tries out and what he thinks does or does not work. It helps that he's a very high level player and a faction specialist that knows his army in and out.
>>98346362>you need professional actorsI don't ask for the actors. The production itself is good except for the jump cuts to the players in the middle of the match. The issue is that the people who behave in the most insufferable way ever are clearly trying to act instead of just being themselves.
>>98346377>>98346410>he's very Dark Eldar focusedNo problem at all.Thanks, will check them out.
>>98346076You don't want to play on that perrytrash, stick with the classic war hammer 40k terrain it's far better.
>>98346362>Play On TabletopThe vibe of their videos reminds me of Pawn Stars, or some other reality tv show, complete with cuts to "confessional" segments where the players say something that is obviously scripted. It's such a bizarre approach.
>>98346515>no floors>no windowsNot to defend soulless wtc terrain but isn't it meant to have both of those?
>>98346362>I tried Play On Tabletop, and holy fuck they are annoying. This fucking forced banter and these "a nerd tries to be cool, but too hard" vibes.It's so obnoxious that they're simultaneously like this but also the apparently only channel in existence that knows how to pare a 40k game down to a reasonable watch time.
>>98346525>do the bare minimum to make the terrain playableJesus, anon, who do you think they are? Industrial Light & Magic? Cut them some slack.
>>98346362>play on tabletop I dont mind it but its very burger-centric, they've made it all flashy and exciting to appeal to Americans. You could try tabletop tactics which is a little drier but it still has a similar vibe to the former.
>>98346535We are never going to see sovl tables again are we?
>>98346536Tabletop Tactics has actual banter. Or at least they did when Beard and Bone were present, I haven't watched much since.
>>98346538not in this game we're not.
>>98346530titans and tactics also do manage to make it into watchable tier without gating behind membership like AoW does but the skill levels might vary greatlyPoT has this extra issue that some armies just don't feature enough so by the time it comes on rotation their player likely forgot most of their shit and uses them terribly, even more so vs guests that know how to play
>>98346551PoT drives me fucking nuts with the misplays and bad tactics for some of the more technical armies, but it's clear they don't play those factions very often and are obviously not going to be aware of all the most recent tricks and tech a faction specialist would know about.
Back from a weekend at a lakeside cottage with the wife and kid, just touching up the silver trim since I was sloppy with the kroxigor contrast. Gonna paint the skulls next and then probably some bronze on some of the details.Looking forward to using this guy even if he is massively overcoated.
>>98346076I had never made terrain until I did pic related as a display shelf. All I had done is watch a bunch of youtube videos of mordheim, necromunda, and model railroad terrain videos.spent like $200 between materials and the GW parts.
Looks like we have to wait until Wednesday to see who gets the new detachment
>>98346592We all know who the winner will be.
>>98346610>anon look out!
>>98346610Are you sure?
>>98346610>*CLANG* *CLANG* *CLANG*>WAAAGH>*CLANG* *CLANG* *CLANG*
>>98346610anon they are 100% rigging it and making the orks win the next 2 so the war for Armageddon keeps going.
>tfw cant find my bottle of supergluereeeeeeeeeeeeeee
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAstraMilitarum/s/0w70UuZY05Guard should never have been an army
>>98346715Are guardfags still complaining? Fuck sake
>>98346697Stop huffing them and you'll stop forgetting where you put them
>>98346592Can't wait for another ultramarine character
>>98346715KWAB the replies showing that even the redditors there hate him, and are using their new found immunity (because the mod would look even worse if he started banning again) to air their grievances make this so much funnier. thank you, art of war, this wouldn’t have happened without you.>>98346722>can’t click the link and read for himselfyou’re more retarded than any guardfag could ever be.
nta but I'd rather suck start a shotgun than click a reddit link
for me its grimdank
>Huge place in lore>Huge place in advertising>Barely anyone plays Why?
>>98346815they are surprisingly popular in vidya tho
>>98346815Too expensive. That's it.
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>>98346815Not strong enough to be Space Marines, too strong to be a horde like Guard.Stuck in a middle ground with no great options that aren't outdone by Marines or Guard unless they run Nundams. No one actually likes Nundams.Also, T3, 3+, 1W is exceedingly weak in current 40k. Would give them a gimmick like Bretonnia to voluntarily give up the first turn to pray and their units get the Blessing of the Emperor, conferring a 5++ for the battle (increasing to 4++ against ranged). But they lose the Blessing and can't get it back for the rest of the battle if they ever fail a battleshock test (shame for faltering faith!).Things like Repentia and Arco-Flaggelants are exempt from the Blessing. They need to earn their way back into the Emperor's good graces. By dying.
>>98345451Tech adepts look like THAT?
>>98346822In what sense? Chads were denied their Argenta wife but outside that, Dawn of War 1, and a shovelware VR game they don't really appear in vidya in any major way
>>98346881Idk, i feel like they're pretty much around everywhere in 40k vidya, the stuff you mentioned (rip argenta romance)as well as just being additional DLC in general, you have the big dlc in Inquistor the diablo clone, boltgun2 is pretty much a SoB game voiced by pic rel, they have a pretty chunky dlc in battlesectorYou have the old hag in Dark heresy, i'm sure we'll see a SoB pack for DoW4/40k eventually too
>>98346815Sex sells. They're sexy to look at, but its a lot of effort to make the models, paint them and have them not be great on the table anyway. So the pictures of hot women with tight bdsm armour and guns works good.
