Shield Edition>Bans (New)https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-29-2026>NewsThe Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>98329461>TQWhat is your favorite "Return to" set?
>tqNone
>>98344674>What is your favorite "Return to" set?They are all creatively bankrupt abominations. Every return to set has ruined the plane.
>>98344674>What is your favorite "Return to" set?Dunno. But WOE was a good one, as a follow-up to ELD it feels like they really nailed it with that set.
>TQGRN has a special place in my heart because that's when I started playing standard seriously, before that I only played kitchen table with friends
brosonly four more sets to wait until Hobo Mike's Meaty Deluxe enters the game! Are you ready for FUN!?
>>98344744I couldnt even tell this was a shitpost at first
>>98344751I'M READY FOR FUN.
Excited for Trek? Maybe for the Hobbit? Or Reality Fracture? Which set are you waiting for?
>>98344779STARTREKWILLSAVEMAGIC(STWSM)
>>98344779Reality Fracture for sure, I don't care that much about Hexhaven but this is the closest thing we'll get to Planar Chaos 2.
>>98344779I cant wait to equip Jean Luke Picard with Mjlorner and swing for lethal while drawing cards and putting lands into play from my hand that buff my spaceship.
>>98344795>but this is the closest thing we'll get to Planar Chaos 2.... and it's going to SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>98344798For me? I can't wait to say the epic line "Will you concede?" when attacking my opponent for lethal with Wesley Crusher!!
>>98344798Are you sure he'll be worthy?
>>98344795All this does is remind me we are in the slop eraSomehow even a fat nerd's face is more interesting than this freak
>>98344832I mean between him and William Riker one must be worthy. Do you think we will get a “Riker Maneuver” card? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVIGhYMwRgs&ra=m
I hope we get a mechanic similar to enter the dungeon but with Borg, Klingon, Vulcan, and Federation versions that all do different things.
>>98344779Jean Luc Picard, Paragon of Humanity, Captain of the Enterprise will lead this fucking game to a new golden age, MTG will finally be saved and Trek will be the selling set of all time.
>>98344862>I hope we get a mechanic similar to enter the dungeon but with Borg, Klingon, Vulcan, and Federation versions that all do different things.Fuck yes! This is exactly how Star Trek is going to save Magic. We can template it similar to the Ring, like>"When Klingon Warrior enters, boldly go."Fuck yes! This is epic.
>>98344866Boldly Go is an excellent name for a mechanic.
>>98344866>"When Klingon Warrior enters, boldly go."
i cant tell if the shitposting is ironic or if star trek fans are really this obnoxiously moronic. good job.
they just posted some art from TRK, do these look like dual lands? they kinda do to mecont next post
>>98344875You either die a Magic player, or live long enough to see Star Trek save Magic.
>>98344879
>>98344886
>>98344879>>98344886>>98344890Look at this epic art! Star Trek is going to be so fresh and innovative!
>>98344890last one
>>98344875it's definitely the second one, were awful
>Hobbit and Trek around the corner
>>98344897I swear this art already exists on a card
>>98344903There's only so many ways to do a red/black dual
>>98344900Dont worry broski they will only be standard legal for the *checks notes* next three years!
>>98344779Everything is better than capeshit.
>>98344913judging by how dead mtg threads have been, I'd say you are correct.
>>98344879This one doesn't look like a dual to me>>98344886Neither does this one>>98344890This does>>98344897And this one does too
>>98344909>implying
>>98344879W/U>>98344886R/G>>98344890>>98344897B/R
>>98344879new cycle of enters-tapped slow lands with set mechanic
>>98344865I bet its so successful star trek does an episode about mtg. Im so excited i cant wait to see what happens.
i hope half of the star trek set is from the new show that everybody hated
>>98344959
when are we getting a Rings of Power set
Their Descriptions>>98344879A sci-fi landscape featuring a crumbling circular stone archway topped with grass and broken columns, opening onto a coastal inlet. Waterfalls cascade from the arch down to tide pools below, while several bioluminescent, jellyfish-like creatures float through the air and hover above the water. A familiar spacecraft sits in the crevasse.>>98344886A vibrant alien jungle valley with enormous curved, leaf-like or claw-like green fronds arching overhead. The ground is streaked with orange, yellow, and red mineral deposits, with pale curved rocks or bones jutting from the terrain and a phaser sits on a rock in the foreground.>>98344890 surreal red landscape with massive curling, tentacle-like rock arches studded with purple crystal growths, spiraling around a channel of glowing red liquid. A thin, curved metal weapon, a bat'leth, juts out from the crimson stream, with a crescent moon visible through the arches in the hazy sky.>>98344897A dark, dramatic alien vista of jagged black rock spires glowing with orange light from within, set against a night sky with looming planets overhead. Wisps of orange cloud swirl through the scene. In the foreground rests a torn, tattered uniform shirt with a rounded collar and chest emblem, from a gold Starfleet uniform, weathered and full of holes, draped over the dark rock as a remnant of some past inhabitant.
Why are they showing Star Trek cards if the Hobbit is next tine line, I wonder.
>>98344993We already got the Hobbit spoiler. Star is the only set left without spoilers.Remember this is to entice stores to order.
>>98344996
Not so subtle.
>>98345019
>>98345029B/G
The Unsolicited Mark Rosewater Autobiography: Part Deuxhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/my-early-magic-years-part-2
>>98345045Why wasn't this a UB set?
>>98345013Isn't that a Dark Elf?
>>98344879It's funny, I was looking at this art and the vault (or is it a spaceship? Looks kind of like Enterprise but the engines are too far up) thing on the bottom was cutoff. I was thinking it looked really good and fitting for MtG and then scrolled down and that one detail realy kills it.Looks bant aligned. I could see GW or UG pretty easily.>>98344886Jund?>>98344890Grixis>>>98344897Esper>>98344959BUG>>98344965No idea. I guess RUG?
they are probably finishing this cycle in star trek, which is a shame, these are so uninteresting
>>98345047To sexually graphic im just getting to the part where his wife pegs richard garfield while he watches and sobs.
>>98344865I have never been this excited to not buy a single card
>>98344875the show is basically family guy in space so take that as you will
>>98344055>get most of the picks after the 5th or 6th the deck will probably be more consistent (overall) than a new player trying to get signals focusing too much on a rare/mythicObviously, yesBut at that point, any kind of discussion or research about cards could be considered "netdecking". Even just opening this thread and seeing anon shitting his panties over the Fantasticar is technically netdecking since it gives me a ton of information about the format and the strength of a cardAnecdotally, I also used to rely on it, but I got significantly better results once I stopped using it; nowadays I only run the first couple of drafts per set with the 17lands Github companion so I can be familiar with the colours and that's about itI used to end up playing UR a lot since that would score pretty high up in the rankings, since a lot of the Untapped rankings overvalue card draw and "extra value"; at some point I realized I simply don't know how to play them properly so now I just force WB like a happy grug and win. Ironically, netdecking had effectively crushed my winrate for a while
>>98345096>To sexually graphic im just getting to the part where his wife pegs richard garfield while he watches and sobs.Anon, haven't you heard? Sexual stuff is fine as long as it's UB or Secret Lair.
>>98345116Im super excited for BBC (Big Borg Cube)
>>98344674Time Spiral.
>>98342919LARPThis was never true and if you read the article or even played the fucking game at the time you would know there were multiple important qualifiers >This ONLY applied to Standard because it didn't retroactively erase strong cards from previous sets >It was entirely about making creatures not unplayably shit while instants/sorceries shat out value to the point there were decks running 1 copy of Morphling as their only creature By this metric, they are still using the balance philosophy because Standard is not currently looking like Urza's Saga with sorceries that draw 7 and untap 5 lands. It's just that he stopped talking about it when the majority of players intake the game through Coomander and trying to discuss this would only make him look retarded because that shithole "format" still has Sol Ring legal.
>>98345206>By this metric, they are still using the balance philosophy because Standard is not currently looking like Urza's Saga with sorceries that draw 7 and untap 5 lands.... no?
>>98345318I'm waiting for you to find the sorcery that draws 7 and refunds its full manacost with zero setup. Because this is the type of design they removed in favor of the "staircase" and I don't think it takes a genius for you to realize they never did this shit again and every time a design even comes close (i.e. Badgermole Cub) people bitch about it.
>>98345013>ooga elves and two pretty big flavor fails its going to be a great set!to be fair I like the >seek the heart portion of the arkenstone but it's effect is super tame for being as big of a deal as it is
>>98345449The fuck are you even talking about.
>>98345482>Mark says the game is balanced by making some aspects of the game weaker while others become stronger>What he was referring to is making instants/sorceries weaker and creatures stronger>This argument looks retarded when talking about any format without rotation because you can just run the old strong cards with the new strong cards>So obviously he doesn't bring it up when the main way people play is a format that doesn't rotate
>>98345499It balanced eternal formats too, anon.
>>98344795>Asian Wizard Scientist >Black Wizard BSDM guy with dumb smileWhat did they mean by this? >>98344900Hobbit is ok imo.>>98344959What are those merfolk things?>>98345013We had captain kirk
lets see the marvel numbers
>>98345502You really want to LARP that Mark "Affinity/Dredge" Rosewater was thinking about eternal formats before 2018? You think eternal formats were considered when Lab Man got printed? You think Delve considered how Legacy decks filled their GY 4x faster than Standard? Eternal formats broke constantly, the only difference is that players were more willing to huff copium because netdecking was less mainstream of a practice and information was less ubiquitous.
>>98345517I literally do not now how you got on this schizo tangent but none of what you are saying is relevant to balance between the years of 2004 and 2018.
>>98345520>Delve and Dredge were not introduced between 2004 and 2018>DRS was not printed between 2004 and 2018>Top was not printed between 2004 and 2018Yeah I'm really sure these cards aged really well into Legacy with that staircase balance oh wait.
>>98345534>Sometimes there are singular mistakes.So what?
>>98345540It directly contradicts your notion that "staircase balance" did anything for eternal formats when the reality is they were not even a real consideration in Standard sets before 2018. If a card rotated Modern/Legacy you just got told to eat shit for 2 years if not more (unless you're Splinter Twin xddd) and it was way more egregious where entire decks revolving around cards got made instead of Delver swapping Stock Up for Flow State.
>>98345562>It directly contradicts your notion that "staircase balance" did anything for eternal formatsEternal formats were largely balanced for that entire time.
Don't you love Sci-fi garbage in your fantasy card game?
>>98345513they made a morbillion dollars
>>98345565What metric would you define as "balanced?" Because entire set mechanics took over Legacy, making entire decks, way more often before 2018 whereas now it's usually 1-2 cards from a set replacing cards in an existing deck that already did something similar (exempting MH for obvious reasons).
>>98345594Cope. Magic was always flirting with sci-fi.
>>98345606>What metric would you define as "balanced?"It's just intuitive. It's a vibe, my guy.
>>98345614Your vibes are off, so you're being sent to the prison camp. I don't make the rules.
>>98345656>Your vibes are off, so you're being sent to the prison camp. I don't make the rules.Yeah well I don't follow the rules.
I hope there will be another Eldraine expansion
I'm Mark Rosewater. AMA
>>98345673
You're just baiting shitposts.
>>98345675I take that as a compliment. I work with many great gay game designers :)>>98345676Stop yucking other people's yum, friend.
>>98345013>After the coming of Humans>Humans
>>98345613You do know the difference between 'flirting' and 'second unplanned pregnancy', right?
>>98345851Your brother and you?
>>98345851I know it's been 20 years since that article got posted, so it's probably been planned eventually.
>>98345909>modular drone>doesn't have Modular
Back in my day there was only one ring. Now theres fukn TEN.
>>98345931by gawd that card is boring
Does Black Market Connections let you draw the card by paying 2 life before deciding whether or not to create a Shapeshifter by paying 3 life, or would you have to commit to spending 5 life to do both of these actions before drawing the card?
Anyone else playing value vintage? What decks do you like? Personally I am loving this format it feels like a very level playing field and open to an insane amount of different brews
>>98345931man, the one ring was oldskool SOUL overload
>>98345931Are we sure this isn't supposed to be in the Sonic the Hedgehog set?
Can anyone explain to me why the Paradigm spells couldn't have just been enchantments?
>>98346080do you mean mechanically or thematically?mechanically it would've made them weak to enchantment removal and we can't have that, cards are made for commander and they're not allowed to have downsides or something like thatthematically it wouldn't trigger opus or increment which are both big part of the set as well as any other synergies like flashback if the card didn't resolve in the first try
>>98346103correction, it would trigger increment only once instead of multiple times, because you cast the copy every turn
>>98345946The latter. You have to choose which modes you want before any of them are put on the stack, and they resolve in order so you'll have the treasure token before you draw the card, and you'll draw the card before you make a creature token. You won't have priority until all three have resolved.
>>98346103>>98346105It is annoying how because you cast them without paying their mana cost, you don't get the bonus effect on Opus.
SEXOO SEXOO SEXOO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOO
This is the best /mtg/ has to offer.
when you draft on arena do you draft with people of the same rank as you, or just anybody available?
>>98344795Even gayer than I could have imagined
>>98346266>SEXOO SEXOO SEXOO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOO
>>98346266forced meme
>>98346337Anybody available afaik, in Premier Draft at leastLast weekend I tried drafting capeshit and I ended up playing monoW with how open it was, and you sure as fuck don't get that in Diamond
>>98345505>blue is asian>red is groidUM SWEATY THIS IS PROBLEMATIC
>>98346337I believe it puts record as top priority, but tries to get the person closest to your mmr within that
>>98346412>>98346428they're making captain picard black now because of these posts.
>>98346454And? He will still be at least red and or white and definitely not a villain. I will equip the hammer and swing for all the value.
Teferi is a wizard because his dad got btfo by a lizard and thats canon lmfao.
>>98346507why is the text on the weapon of a norse god in english?
>>98346518Holy shit are you for real!? Its runes to us you must be worthy!
>>98346520buy what does it say? i cant read english, i just know the text is english
>>98346542Uhh i dunno?
>>98346542Im typing in runes right now. You have to wake up. Just wake up! Nigger!
>>98346412we're going to Zhalfir for an all negro set
>>98346454>I m manifesting nigger data into reality
>>98346581Data will cost one blue mana or one star trek mana (colorless) and he will search you library for a spacecraft or vehicle (fantasticar) fuck you nigger i had a cousin that looked just like data and he killed himself.
>>98346812Oh but he was white not a nigger didnt ever pay taxes fucker
>Captain picard is black with the side haircut>Janeway is black with dreads>Tuvok is the new OP chase cardHow do you respond?
>>98346831i dont care because ive never seen a single star trek movie or tv episode
they keep printing this card over and over but I don't think I've ever seen a reason to play it for 1 extra mana you can raise the past all of your 2 drops into play from the graveyard
>>98346874im pretty sure dewdrop cure saw play at some point when it came out. dont remember in what decks or in what formats
>>98346874>>98346950Cure was playable in Amalia Combo while she was Pioneer legal. There's a Modern version of the deck with Samwise Gamgee, not sure if that played Cure.
Enough doomposting. Post silly cards.
premodern
Five years from now, you walk down the street. You see garbage men carry huge boxes full of unopened Magic products out of a house and tossing it into the bin. You hear their conversation.>What is all this stuff?>It's some children's game. Years ago people thought these would become collectibles. Hahaha. They put all their money into this.>Hah! No wonder the loser that lived here killed himself.They realize that you are starring at them.>What you want? Are you one of these weirdos? How much money did you lose?How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>98347286>How do you respond without sounding mad?With shaking hands, I reach out toward the garbage men. The old, bent packs in my hand flash in the sun and crinkle... "SPIDERMAN">"W-w-w-w w-w-wwou-would you l-l-like t-to b-b-buy some of m-m-my rare Collector Boosters?"They stare at me.>"Yuh-yw-yu-yh-you could cuh-c-c-crack a Soul Stone!The-th-they're g-g-going to be worth m-muh-millions any d-day now!"They sigh, look too each other, and shake their heads. In silence, they finish their work, get back into the garbage truck and drive away.
>>98347286Investing in cardboard always will be a mistake.
>>98346080>>98346103All he said, and also as a minor further point, thematically the flavour they're meant to convey is a "paradigm shift", a permanent irreversible change in the fundamental rules of operation. It's meant to be a "can't put the genie back in the bottle" sort of event.
>>98344795planar chaos but everyone is a fag tranny lets GOOOOOOO
Reminder that is EDH staple is less than a dollar and you SHOULD invest in it
>>98347207>>98347210kek
>>98347900but everyone is a fag tranny already in the current reality
>>98344795>have an interesting "mirror multiverse" setup>spend it all on one set and only focus on the mirror version of a plane no one gives any fucks aboutYeah, nah. I have zero hopes for Reality Fracture at this point.
>>98344980I love how they aren't even actual fucking planets or locations that exist in the Star Trek lore. It tells you all you need to know about how "quality" the set is going to be.
>>98345594The sci-fi part isn't the problem. Star Trek is nearly 100% technology and science based and to go one step further it does not have a focus on combat, battle or skirmishes. Yes, these do happen throughout all of the series but they are never the focus (in before some fuckass jumps in about DS9 being the "war" show - the war was the backdrop for the story in the final seasons, not the focus). You just can't justify slapping Jean-Luc and Data onto the field, equipping them with swords and having them run into the red zone. It 100% does not work and I have no idea why they are trying to force it. EOE is a completely different vibe from Star Trek, they aren't even close besides "its in space".
>>98346266>ritualposting bastard doesn't even know how his camera worksYeah this checks out.
>>98347206
>>98348132Yeah, when it was first announced I thought the scope would be a little bigger than just strixhaven. I think I read something somewhere that the bonus sheet will have mirrored versions of iconic cards
>>98348210>zoomed in stills of cheap looking 720p animationHow did they think that was a good idea?
>>98344779When do we get the line up for 2027
>>98344795>I don't care that much about HexhavenBut anon, that is going to be the focus of the set, not neat planar chaos like cards.
>>98344951Better question is, what new star trek movie or show is being advertised with this card game
>>98348285this weekend at magiccon amsterdam
Having researched star trek, I have learned of Vulcan (P'Jem), Klingon (Boreth), and Bajoran (Prophets) monks. There is therefore a non-zero chance a monk will appear, and I will see you all again when Star Trek spoiler season comes out. A weird space monk lord wouldnt be my first choice, but I'll take it.
>>98347206shouldn't it be a 16/16, or do they kinda get in each other's way when there are that many of them?
>>98348307Ahem, thats only the three in universe sets. The three UB sets will remain a mystery.
>>98348170See you next thread x
>>98344795>big multiverse changing event that's like 1000 MTG 9/11s >only gets one set and then back to regularly scheduled broadcasting when we should see at least three sets showing how it's warping everything.
>>98348572uh yeah same as the last two times lmaomaybe they'll use this as a chance to remove Planeswalker as a card type since they're bad in Commander? they can call it the un-Mending.
>>98344779I was angry at UB existing, but I legitimately think WOTC is out of ideas for OC which after 30 years, bound to happen eventually, right? I predict we will start seeing one in universe set a year soon.I like aetherdrift and outlaws and edge, but they seem like the "we've had the concept for these for years and now we're finally out of ideas so we will make them"And now they pivot to other IP. Bound to happen eventually.
How much longer until the Trek spoilers?
>>98348751Like 2.4 months
>>98344674>TQdoes odyssey count?
>>983487511pm est for the showcase
>>98348278but the set sold record highs! that means people LOVED it
>>98348751The spoilers are hours away.
I miss Loot so much bros… I hope he is ok.
>>98348759nocold snap does, though
>>98348751>UB spoilers taking the spotlight off real magic spoilers again
>>98344779I am unironically hopeful that trek will at least be mechanically dense and a decent companion set to the thing that was intended to make an excuse for it existing, probably will be the only truly good UB set of the year and comparable to Avatar even if it fails to pull FF numbersHobbit will have like 20-30 cards I buy singles of but small sets to will continue to suck ass to play or just be very boring at bestI want to hope that reality fracture will be good but the double rare gimmick makes it feel like a lot of the space will be wasted on reprints and side grades of them
>>98348278>720pretty sure most rips of avatar are 480 lmao
>>98348278The same way they decided to randomly use screenshots of cutscenes for half the FF bonus sheet instead of official art
>>98348800>mechanically dense and a decent companion setbased on what? it's yet another artifact set if spacecrafts are any part of it
Mtggoldfish Seth Olive says he wants to do classic pre-mh pre-ub Modern decks tournament similar to what they're running now with Standard decks.Smash or pass?
>>98348817an people unironically bought those by the boat loads too
>>98348828holy shit fucking FINALLY someone else wants exactly the format I desire
>>98348828Would watch every episode just to enjoy the nuMagic humiliation ritual.
>>98348828How is Seth still alive, I thought that fat bearded fuck would have choked to death on the mountain of cocks he gobbles every day.
>>98348828>>98348839I've been expecting PostModern ever since PreModern got traction. 8th Edition - Gatecrash is a really solid collection of blocks, though there's an argument to go as far as Khans for fetchlands.
>>98348927no, the one I want includes current and future non-ub standard too
>>98348978I was about to say "wouldn't that just be affinity vs tron vs Amulet" as if a repeat of 2010s modern wouldn't be that as well unless they had the balls to unban birthing pod
>>98348824it just being 2 edge 2 eternity
>>98348800Have you seen how "beginner friendly" they are going with all things UB since Spider-Man? There is no way in hell they are going deep on any set (UB or otherwise) at this point. Its draw (but only triggering once per turn!), +1/+1 counters and tribal synergies all the way down from now on...
>>98348645War of the Spark sure but it also had years of buildup, Phyrexia should've had Aftermath be a whole proper set with the winning/resolution of the war but at least there was a lot of shit going on between Dominaria and March of the Machine.
>kills u instantlyI'm coming for you, Pioneer.
>>98349010but what if you mill 6 lands?
>>98349021Bro, you're not going to believe this but... if it whiffs...you just draw another card
>>98349026but what if you mill 6 lands again?
>>98349036You do it again!
>>98349001anon avatar came out immediately after spider slop, I'm pretty sure it's just wotc not giving a shit about comic properties because the marvel sets are the ones where the most intensive decision making is conniving
>>98349021>>98349036Jarvis, kill this poster.
>>98349010Does it even work? Wouldn't you need to hit 6 non-land to continue milling?
>>98349110>Does it even work? Wouldn't you need to hit 6 non-land to continue milling?No. Tutelage only asks for two cards among those milled to be the same color.
>>98349036*raughs*
>>98348785We all miss Loot so got dang much.
>>98349153WHEREISLOOT?!
>>98349127dangerously baste
>>98349162WE MISS YOU LOOT COME BACK LOOT DONT DO IT LOOT WE LOVE YOU
MaRo get the fuck out of here
Why did no-one tell me about this awesome little guy
Let's see now if anons were correct.
>>98349262cause he's pretty niche, if you play legacy/vintage you'll face him in the wildother formats don't have a lot of free counters so he's pretty much at best a sideboard card
https://www.twitch.tv/magicnew cards soon (?)
>usually get unceremoniously shat on when I try dipping my toes into limited, so rarely bother>felt the itch regardless, so took a chance on a lorwyn quick draft despite not knowing the set all that well>go for a cheeky mono-green draft>get away with it >go 7-0well this was nice, I must have been the guy the algo was using to rig everyone else's games
>>98349263considering what they did with Gilgamesh in FF I will continue to not expect planeswalker adjacent characters to be treated as such no matter the context
>>98349295
Captain Kirk is worthy
I just wanna fucking puke all over this cards ngl lie mates...
>>98349315Im gonna do a cum tribute of janeway maybe ill post it here idk
we are finally fully baseball
>selling autograph cardskek
Is there a stream to watch?
>>98349317im gonna buy the signed card just to cum tribute it desu
>>98349320>autograph cardsgame is truly dead. all the "star trek will save magic" posters manifested the opposite.
>>98349320Embarassing.
>>98349302>literal redshirtslol
>>98349320Those will fetch insane prices, probably even more than normal serialized cards.
>>98349320picardfag? where is the golden age you bragged about? all i see is a worse spiderman garbage lol
>>98349115>bothI think that both is equivalent to "all" or "those"... If it was just 2 cards it would have been written as "if 2 cards ...." But anyway it could probably work in arena because those hacks can't code to save their lives.
>>98349340this is actually pretty good? 3 mana impulse draw every turn as long as you have a 1/1 to tap?
>>98349340This is kind of cool probably dogshit tho
>>98349343>this is actually pretty goodno, not really
The only dilemma I'm facing is wondering if I should still play this shit fuck of a game.
>>98349345>Set Phasers to>Set>Phasers AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>98349296Well, you got 2 bombs (figure and Nursery) It should be somewhat easy either way. You could have splashed white for a few changelings&removal and played the 3 mana search deck for land put in play then create a 3/4 if you control 7 lands and/or treefolks.nuLorwyn limited is way better than most of the other limited environment we got the last 2 years tho.>>98349302>>98349311lame>>98349320damn, I know people will buy this lmao.This might drive sales of the set big time.I remember people paid like $100+ for a piece of hair from the guy + signature a while back.
>>98349357>antisynergy with changelings AGAIN>this time it's an entire set mechanicwhy would they make these release in the same standard as lorwyn lmao
>>98349354where's her huge tits?
>>98349354the true dilemma is if this game should still be called Magic the gathering
>>98349048>anon avatar came out immediately after spider slop, I'm pretty sure it's just wotc not giving a shit about comic properties because the marvel sets are the ones where the most intensive decision making is connivingWell, this comment didn't age so well. Star Trek is all drawing cards, counters and Federation / Borg tribal.
>>98349393This card is actually neat. I've never really played with phasing cards before. If the token dies, does everything phase back in?
>>98349393Very cool design, this comboes very well with flicker and reset effects.
>>98349377hey, that's actually pretty...>then draws a cardnever mind
>>98349407phasing is at draw stepideally you get rid of the token on your opponents end step, and they are already at a disadvantage killing it any time besides your turn
>>98349407...on the next upkeep of their owner, yes.
>>98349407Cards phase in at the beginning of your turn, they wouldn't phase in immediately.
Why the hell are we getting a massive dump of Star Trek spoilers before Reality Fracture?
>>98349426$$$They are juicing the hell out of this (shitty) set with the full set of shocks, signed cards and other junk.
>>98349415Karn the Great Creator is eating good.
>>98349417*beginning of untap step
>>98349426please buy. sales are slow.
I HATE COMMANDER SO FUCKING MUCH
>>98349426because UB sets need the promotion, every UB set that flops is a massive loss since they gotta pay royalties for using outside IP
>>98349426because they're showcasing fractured but whole at the actual magiccon along with the next few in universe sets, hopefully meaning that RF isn't going to just be a one set deal
>>98349426Because there is a bunch of boomer neckband manchildren they are willing to squeeze till the last hard eanerd dollaridoo.
some of these star trek cards actually seem neat. the autograph cards make we want to torture mark rosewater, thouh.
>>98349445>bonus sheet has regular borderless framesthank fuck
>>98349445Not the real Khan.
>>98349405Nothing says Star Trek more than hitting them with a 10/10 ship's doctor.
benedict cocumber is now magic canon
mainset shocks
>>98349457There will probably be prints for the different actors.
>>98349437why don't these have the series title denoting what they're from Ihaven't actually watched more than like eight episodes of tng
>>98349464didn't we just get these like 5 months ago?
>>98349464>shocks will never rotate out of standard againdamn
>>98349320Is my psychosis acting up or did whatever AI they used to make the art for captain Kirk hit him with the Charlie Kirk filter
>>98349445why do the faces look like ai from 2023?
>>98349405>Dr crusher>crushes you
>>98349464On one hand it's boring we're not getting anything new, on the other hand reprints of good stuff is never bad.
>>98349470They have to push Stranstard as much as possible.
>>98349464Are they just gonna start putting them in commander precons at this point? why do we need two prints of shocklands across 3 standard sets
>>98349464If they want to sell the set, they should have printed the fetches.
>>98349491at least he's monoblue
>>98349499nah, they said there are many more q's in the set
>>98349498>perfection >no arms or legs
>>98349498>welcome deck>theft reanimationI'm assuming that's what the borg do in the actual set but it's weird seeing one of these with an actual new mechanic on it
>>98349490>Q>Q>Q>Q
>>98349498how the hell is she gonna fit into the suit? She still has her shoulders, there's way too much meat left under the head to fit.
>>98349490>we won't make UB planeswalkers but will print a legend with his literal name as a creature type
Seems like even Reddit hates the autograph cards
>>98349525how many products i WILL NOT buy :^) thanks maro!!
>>98349528>his literal name as a creature typeQ is the whole race, though.
>>98349538Cant wait to build Q tribal
>>98349537to the moon.
>>98349548Call the deck The Q Continuum.
>>98349548Just dont get them mixed up with Qu
Are Star Trek fans more or less insufferable than Star Wars fans
>>98349562More considering SW fans gave up years ago
so... are we excited for star trek in standard for many years?
>>98349572I'm somehow less enthused for it than I was yesterday
>>98349572Yes
>>98349555>paying over 400 dollars for 12 packs of cardsgood goy
>>98349572Obviously not. Fuck UB.
>>98349562Enterprise last episode aired in 2005. That's when Star Trek fans moved on.
trek cards looked like shitjust like all the new slop
but wait. there's more.
>>98349343>>98349340yeah, actually good but imo too slow for most formats. FIRE making new sets wortless lmao.>>98349345honestly I like those "flavor option" cards. The D&D ones are also cool.>>98349354Nig DATA poster almost predicted Dilemma mechanic ? LMAO Comeon asian Data, I believe in you !!!
>>98349464again???
Thank god magic is finally saved
Think I might start playing yugioh with all the Mexicans and blacks instead
>>98349367Me when looking at mtg spoilers>>98349377cool, the shit bat from ixalan saw lots of play this will probably be playable in standard.>>98349386>>98349393>>98349428Are those titles of episodes from trek?>>98349405She should not have Ajani Pridemate ability, otherwise would have been a cool card.>>98349415"nice"...>>98349437shit
>>98349311BOOOOO Captain Janeway should be a black card with Engineered Plague stapled to her. Fuck you wotc you don't know SHIT.
>>98349437>>98349468That would require the designers to watch all the series and Star Trek only have 3 and a half good ones to watch.These two, specifically, come from the animated comedy series and they got to crossover onto a "serious" "main" series later on.
Edge of Eternities was literally created to prepare for this you liked Edge of Eternities right???
>>98349631I'm seriously considering Pokemon at this point, can't be worse than this shit.
These might genuinely be the worst looking Magic cards I've ever seen.
>>98349525Wait wait wait. What are those boxes below the beginner box?Also, the one thing I like is that they put Gowron in at least a single product, but I doubt they know the character beyond the memes over the years.
Which one of you fags is Mike Stoklasa?
>>98349652i like magic cards yes, i saw none on those spoilers.
>>98349657scene boxeshopefully less shit than the marvel ones but they're commander jank
>>98349445Almost had a meltdown thinking they would do sheoldred again (didn't saw the name bellow>>98349464shocks becoming worthless, damn I should have sold mine last year :(>>98349485>>98349490>>98349508>>98349513meh. I know it is a welcome deck but stillQ might be good.>>98349498Actually cool. I want to see the cube>>98349525>commander deckif instead of it we had jumpstart boosters I would probably try
>>98349437That detached hand on the red card ¿?
>>98349562Star Trek fans are really particular on what they like or care and as anon here said: >>98349589Most OG fans tapped out around Enterprise. The original shows are mostly self-contained, so you can still go back and watch them and enjoy for what they are, which I did, I got into Star Trek around college, so the 2010's and I enjoyed it really well.The JJ Abrams movies are fine, action schlock mostly save for Beyond, which is around the same level of quality than the original series episodes. The old movies are hit or miss and they also end up becoming action schlock, but campy action schlock for the TNG movies.The new series suck, the writing sucks and the few things that are "good" are mostly just rethreading stuff from the original 3-4 series that were good, but fanservice for fans that still remember that.Nobody is going to clamor that this is "destroying the image" of Star Trek because the showrunners have been doing that for decades now and Star Trek fans just keep watching what they liked originally anyways.
I didnt expect to see Loot in this set but can someone please just let me know he is ok?
>>98349703Loot has been found dead in an alley
>>98349676we need more commander decks to "accidentally" shake up legacy/vintage
>>98349712Dammit KHAAAAAAAN
>>98349716Legacy formats need saving too anon
I come back from work to this!?THIS!?
That Star Trek stuff looks even more ass than I expected
Alright I've seen product and got excited, now show me the next set so I can get excited!
>>98349764next weekend,info next year slop
I cant believe we get to play star trek for three whole years! Yipeee!
>>98349792My "snap scoop on principle" list for Arena is getting rather long
>>98349485>Picard is a 4/4I HATE this set.
I miss when Final Fantasy was the only UB in standard.
Give my qween (male) Jay-Den a card!!!Yes !!! Slay !!!1!!1
Nanu nanu my niggers
>>98349800I miss when we relentlessly gave WotC shit for shoving any UB at all into standard for all of 5 minutes
>>98349652Ironically, this is absolutely nothing like EOE.
>>98349798That isn't from the set it's a baby product for baby players
How long does it take to sell high value (>$150) cards? Mostly non-staple, more special prints.
Where's my Starfleet Academy cards, WotC? Too afraid to have a powerful black wxmyn as the face for your set?
>>98349815So it gets a free pass? I guarantee main set Picard is at least a 3/3.
>>98349800I miss 2024 and is crazy to me that i miss that year so much.
They didnt reveal any space jews did they the cowards
>>98349832I hate to be that guy but UBs genuinely used to not feel so obnoxious as they do now. Even the AssCreed debacle was more about the format of the set rather than the set itself.
>>983498324 sets vs 7 sets being 4 of those 7 garbage like pic related is enough to make anyone miss even the worst years of this game when still was "magic"
why are they showing star treck now?is wiz in full damage control of nobody giving a shit?
delete this
>>98349464good, print every land type into the ground
>This plane isn't big enough for the both of us.
>>98349896Is that a crab dressed as a cowboy
>>98349905It's a scorpion dresses as a cowboy.
>>98349905Its a scorpion dragon cowboy
>>98349912>cowboythat's clearly an outlaw
>>98349880Haven't a clue. I mean there is Hobbit and Reality Fracture to get through before any of this should be at the top of anybody's mind.
>>98349905everyone dressed as a cowboy in that plane
>>98349880Because UB is designed to the people who care about that IP. There's less connective tissue between individual releases, and that means that the dragnet for each individual release needs to expand to the point of the brand cannibalizing itself. You might as well ask why companies that sell billboards have their name smaller than the company buying the ad space.
>>98349905>dressed as a cowboyWhere?
Was it only Star Trek today? I thought they were going to show Reality Fracture too.
>>98349973Nope, all sets from now on have been cancelled and replaced with Star Trek sets.
>>98349973Is the reality not fractured enough for you as it is?
>>98349979But what about Loot? Is Loot going to bridge uw to ub as part of the story? Can we get a Garruk captain of the enterprise?
When Star Trek comes, does that mean we get knights vs. space ships?
>>98350034Vs cowboys and avatar and spiderman and marvel heroes
>>98349469they're reprinting so the full cycle is in a single standard yearwhat would've happened is EoE would've rotated and left only the 5 ECL shocks in standard. reprinting them again avoids that weird year where only half the color pairs get good mana
>>98349890basedlets take it further, any card who's tcgplayer market value is >$25 should be reprinted into the ground
>>98350034I equip Captain America with a skateboard and then use him to station the USS Enterprise which I then use to station one of the EOE planets, which I then earthbend and sacrifice it to trigger landfall on my Sazh's Chocobo. I then attack you for one with the Chocobo.
>look at new cards>saga again>it's always the same effect, only the trigger change>when you do thing, do thing again>put a +1/+1 counter>play an additional land>do things draw cards>create an artifact tokenAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I'm sure they have a checklist with the most popular effect in EDH and need to check at least 80% of them every set.
Did anybody ask for this shitty set besides that faggot Gavin? Trekkies are all boomers, this is not going to grow the game.
>>98349405>3 cmc mythic rare ajani's pridematethey really can't hide that UB is just commanderslop can they
>>98350074I actually think it's because they are anticipating drawing in new players with these sets, and don't want it to be too complicated.
How much time until Spongebob, My Little Pony and Transformers disembark officially in all formats? Not so far away I guess?
>star trek>mechanics look like shit>hobbit>mechanics are so shit we dont even talk about it>marvel>mechanics were shit, power up sucks>TMNT>mechanics were barely noticeable, but still shit>avatar>earthbending was nutso strong, airbending and firevending were cool. Waterbending sucked but whatever.Why is avatar the only UB recently that got it right?
>>983501072027 at the current rate...
>>98350064I block with masked meower. My go?
>>98350124I'm guessing FF and avatar are fine mechanically because the people making the cards actually have a connection to the franchises. they want to make the cards cool because they have passion for the source materialeverybody hates marvel slop by now, and star trek and TMNT are way before the time of working age people today
>>98349336>I think that both is equivalent to "all" or "those"... If it was just 2 cards it would have been written as "if 2 cards ...."It was printed prior to mill-modifying replacement effects and it has been errata'd to work with them.
>>98349320Not yet. Baseball has real gold chase pulls in 10,000 dollar packs. We're not quite there yet, but we're close.Also, pic related.
Types for the spoiled cards:Roles>officer>scientist>warrior>noble >rogue>doctor>shapeshifterRaces>human>tosk>q>klingon>Borg>vulcan>VampireLots of officers and scientists. Will we see the return of Party as Crew?
>>98349026>>98349044bullshityou'd run out of cards to draw eventually
>>98349303>enters or attacksNot when it dies too?! WOTC MY FEEL BADS WHAT IF THEY KILL IT!!!>2/2lmao it's a fucking mythic gray ogre hahahaha Thanos 2.0 hahahhahahaha.>>98349311EXTREMELY boring.
>>98350107Before that we need at least a Diary of a wimpy kid set with the full art lands illustrated by Jeff Kinney
Star Trek is just space Korean drama
>>98350148FF was mechanically bland as paste it just had ridiculously strong top end stuff
>>98349445Holy geggggg this is retarded
>>98350077they are just taking any deal they can get to grow their reputation for bigger deals in the future. I bet any indie could call them up for a crossover and get greenlit the moment they pick up the phone
>>98349445>Fucking Coomerbatch KhanAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>98350218FF at least did something new with the summon being single face saga creature.
>Gray Ogre, but mythic>Oracle of Mul Daya, but mythic>"Whenever you face a dilemma" (Obligatory art of the one Seven of Nine scene where she wasn't in a catsuit)We barely have any spoilers and I already hate this set even more than I hated it before.
but but but...Star Trek was going to save magic...
>>98350420Star Trek bros... not....... not like this........
I miss the male gaze, bros
Guys I'm starting to think Star Trek might not actually save magic...
>>98350420>>98350443
>>98350443>Guys I'm starting to think Star Trek might not actually save magic...No. It can't be. It was the chosen set.
>"non-Borg creatures you control"AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Salt Vampire is insane.
>>98350443what kind of spoilers did you expect?
>>98350443That's ok, we're only getting three in-universe MTG sets next year anyways. That means there's more room for another UB mega hit like FF!
>>98350513black lotus reprint
>>98350513Lurrus 2.
>>98350513Fantasticercar
>>98350507i don't care what the official name is, it was clearly a salt succubus
>>98350578Hot
>>98350572well you are just delusional then
>>98349639>cool, the shit bat from ixalan saw lots of play this will probably be playable in standard.Extremely shit opinionRead the two cards side by side and you'll see the issue
>>983506072 power and an upgraded variant of its ability makes Salt Vampire FAR better than Bat.
>>98344779man it really starting to hit me what could they annnounce for 2027? feels like we've done everything
>>98350616Keeping them down a card, even if they can get the card back eventually with removal or whatever, is typically better tempo in the decks that play duress effects.
>>98350623>Keeping them down a card, even if they can get the card back eventually with removal or whatever, is typically better tempo in the decks that play duress effects.Not even remotely close. Vendillion Clique's effect is far, far better than them getting the exact card you don't want them having back at their leisure 99% of the time.
>>98350607You give them one card while removing the problem card permanently, all that while leaving a reasonable power on the field. They are not the same but the vampire has merits specially in this combo heavy meta.You remove the card then the vampire is just a extra while bat will give the problem card back once they destroy it with a burn spell, etc.
>>98350616Batto is guaranteed value, you don't care about the body anywayIt forces oppo to tap out + waste precious removal to get their cards back, which buys you enormous amounts of tempoDrawing them a card is far far worse
>>98350635That was true back when Clique was in standard but shit's too fast now.
>>98350635This argument doesn't matter because the bat is already too weak for standard now anyway
>>98350654>It forces oppo to tap out + waste precious removal to get their cards back,No, it gives your opponent the choice whether they want it back. Giving your opponent a choice is always, ALWAYS worse than not.
>>98350654I remove your Kona/omnicience/karnstruct2Ushit/stockUp/etc you can keep that board wipe and draw a card.
>>98350621Universes Beyond: Magic
>>98350654You are retarded. Every competent player would prefer Clique's effect over Bat's effect 100% of the time, given the choice.
>>98349832
>>98350621supposedly there's only 3 in-universe sets being announced so it could just be>return to ikoria>return to kaldheim>new setdone, we only get more magic in 2028
>>98350681>decks that nobody playThe most played decks in standard are variation of UR where every cards is interchangeable so them drawing a card mean they get either an equivalent card or a card that will allow them to draw a card that is equivalent to the card you exiled.
How much longer til WotC gets a mass firing of employees?
>>98350773Why the fuck would that ever happen?
>>98350773theyll probably fire all their straight white employees and hire indian men and black women later this year.
>>98350809>More AI slopSo there's no hope for this to get fixed as they'll get rid of the Tumblrfags and replace them with H1B Visas
>>98350825bloody bitch bastard fuck you
>>98350719surprisingly underwhelming card
>>98350809Why the fuck would that ever happen?
>>98350881Some pretty rad leggings.
>>98350888nice trips
>>98350621anime (probably something generic and recent like demon slayer, but I have an odd feeling it would be something more nostalgiabaity like FMA)marvel set #3that book series people keep circlejerking (though dune or ASOIAF would also be likely)
>>98350883because fuck you timmy
>>98350932No no. Explain to me the logic behind killing the golden goose laying a lot of valuable eggs.
>>98350976reparations
>>98349320So this is their strategy to replicate the 001/001 Ring phenomenon.
STAR TREK WILL SAVE MA-ACK
>>98350976member when they fired the guy responsible for one of DnDs biggest hit collab (Baldur's Gate 3) ? Only to create a gaming studio who gave jack shit and contracted disgraced trans game director (elder scrolls:gay shit) to direct their games?
>>98350784Cost cutting. Why would you cost cut at a company that's doing well? Less cost mean more money number bigger!
>>98350976Because the goose lays a special diamond egg as its dying!
>>98350976Because Magic players have already shown that they'll buy anything.
>>98351197>Because Magic players have already shown that they'll buy anything.False. The people buying slop are not playing the game.
>>98350976company believes it is a big enough name that nothing will sink the IPfire everyone previously involved to claim controlput the bare minimum to keep the IP aboutwhore out IPdo nothing with the IP and expect to naturally grow
>>98350621My prediction is 4 UB and only 2 UW.
>>98351214LINEGOUP
>>98351216>My prediction is 4 UB and only 2 UW.9UB.
Why not just one new UB set for each month? 12 a year. That would be epic.
>>98351214Nevertheless Wotc is a subsidiary of Hasbro.
>>98351212Magic player aren't buying and we keep hitting record profits? Sounds like they should have started shoveling out shit much sooner.
>>98351244This is the goal
>>98350976>Why would they fire all the white menWoTC has done it before.
>>98351212Player retention and sell-through rates are irrelevant to short-term profits. The costs will be eaten by captive middlemen. You say the floor is going to fall out from all these unsold boxes piling up? That's a problem for next quarter.
>>98351304Their greatest trick is getting the in-group to do it to themselves.
>>98349320I remember Rudy saying autograph cards were a 100% guarantee when the first serialized cards came out 4 years ago
>>98350976capitalists are materially incentivized to ignore long term (>1yr) consequences and exclusively focus on how their decisions will impact next quarter's earnings reportfiring all the expensive white guys and replacing them with jeets and DEI means they save an enormous amount on labor for next quarter. in case you haven't noticed, the entire western economy is focused on how it can most efficiently strip mine itself for immediate value before moving on to the next strip mining target. none of the people in power are worried about what will happen when there's nothing left to strip mine
>>98351617>>98351617>>98351617move
>>98350976Everyone involved, both stakeholder and employee, is just trying to keep things in the air long enough to get paid and leave before it all crashes down. Same as all forms of collective ownership, no one actually gives a shit because you functionally have no agency compared to hundreds of thousands of other 'owners.'
>>98348817The weren't screenshots they were promo art.
>>98349457The movie version were regulated to the bonus sheet.
>>98349562They're pretentious.
