/mtg/- Discussion of the game as a whole, as well as the non-EDH (and occasionally EDH as well) formats. It hits the bump limit in about a day, qualifying it as one of the most active threads on this board.

/edhg/- The most popular format, and also one of the most active threads. It has a sufficiently unique identity that what is true for EDH may not necessarily be true for the other formats. It could be folded into /mtg/, but it has a sufficient population and distinct purpose to likely warrant being its own thread.

/ccg/- Custom cards, which would be incredibly confusing if they were posted in the other threads, especially now that it's abjectly impossible to tell what's a real card and what's a hallucination anymore. On the slower side of things, but I'd argue it's still beneficial to have around and also does inspire people to be creative and contribute OC to the board.

/mtgag/ - Arena, the video game, which exists in an odd gray area. On the slow side of things, but there are a lot of differences and even some unique cards/mechanics that make Arena quite different from paper and may appeal to different people. In theory, it could fit in /vg/, but it may actually be too slow to survive on that board.

/mtg-UB/ anti-Universes Beyond - this one is weird and probably unnecessary and I don't expect it will really last very long.

>>98351495
MtG is the FunkoPop collecting of /tg/ hobbies these days. It's a paypig hobby that is largely supported by whales and scalpers and we'd all be better off if we fed the company and its diehard loyals into the nearest trash compactor.

>>98351495
or for 40k that matter

>>98351495
>need
>/tg/
lmao
how's your spam box?

>>98351495
If puckee usually has like 5 threads up at once why not threads with people who actually play games?

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Why do we need generals at all? Just make a new thread. Weak threads get pushed away, survival of the fittest and all that.

>>98351495
>In theory, it could fit in /vg/, but it may actually be too slow to survive on that board.
It used to be there, the general started here on /tg/ but it moved to /vg/ I want to say around 2019, it stayed there until mid 2023 or so, then it came back here

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>>98351626
I quit when they made the first walking dead cards, and the immediate response from the Coomander RC was "this is fine" and the playerbase didn't roundly reject it.

I saw the writing on the wall. I got rid of my cards as soon as game stores reopened after covid, and while I haven't played since, it's hard to not look back at something you once loved as it rots.

Pic Related, that's me as a hearthstone card.

>>98351587
Bit of an autistic breakdown, but no notes. We've only had the performative anti-UB EDH threads popping up lately because-- to the best of my knowledge-- some retard keeps getting mad about people removing dragon porn from the OP.

OP is a faggot for making a seventh thread about MTG.

That's just half of the total Games Workshop/Warhammer generals we have

>>98351587
>It hits the bump limit in about a day, qualifying it as one of the most active threads on this board.
That's fucking fast though, that's like an average /vg/ thread

>>98351626
I don't know that's probably the pokemon tcg these days

>>98351821
>We've only had the performative anti-UB EDH threads popping up lately because-- to the best of my knowledge-- some retard keeps getting mad about people removing dragon porn from the OP.
I have no idea what that means, but everything else sounds like it's in the same league as whatever the fuck goes on with those OSR splinter threads

WotC shills have decided so.

I still don't know what EDH means or is.

>>98352496
Eccentric Dudes Hollering

>>98352505
But that's all of /tg/!

>>98352496
Egregious Dick Hammering

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>>98351764
That used to be the entire site before maybe 2010 or 2011

>>98351495
We don't. Games are cancer and should be banned ftom tg discussion.

>>98351495
General posters were the first and most subversive group to colonize this board, and I stand by the fact that they should have had to endure the same exile they forced onto quest threads

They refused the rational option that would have preserved both by stating that bumping both to the second page automatically (to alleviate their supposed concern for the quality of /tg/s first page) and now time has shown that they were just here to shit up the board and didn't want anyone else to break the rules of the board in the same way they do

general threads are for fast boards with larger userbases, the ones here are just sickly inbred circlejerks

>>98351764
>>98352566
So by your logic genrals are the strongest threads and good for the site.

>>98352596
I refuse to believe you can look at the quality of generals and catalog threads and come to the conclusion that the former is holding the board back.

>>98352619
I didn't claim anything, but the rise of third party catalogs which later gave way to the actual catalog feature probably made generals easier to survive

>>98352629
meant for >>98352611

>>98351495
Yes

>>98352611
They had to change the rules to protect them; they are the oligarchs of this place.

>>98352619
You're seeing /tg/ after a decade of demographic collapse, of course the generals now appear to be the only thing this place is about. Everything else had the life strangled out of it. after they were done with putting down the quests, it was putting down meta threads and "off-topic" threads in which discussion about what was happening to the board was made

people were having fun in verboten threads and the culture of shitposting schizos hounding everyone who posted outside of the proper protocols and without filling out Form 20-AL-Section 4F became normalized.

generals put on the appearance of propriety, but because of the changes they caused in this board now we can't have anything that made this place fun. Screencap threads to continue the storytelling tradition of the board? Deleted because this place has to be policed like the shithole boards like /vg/ that adhere to the letter of the global rules for topic, but has spiritually degenerated to the point that drawthreads, worldbuilding threads, random threads about "hey how would you make Samurai Jack in X" just for fun are just dead and gone

People shitting their pants about some reddit bogeyman in 30% of non-general threads and freaking out about being in a twitter engagement farm thread, foaming at the mouth because someone asked "what historical setting would x be like if I wanted y"

These are things that /tg/ was literally made for, and no /his/ does not count because that fucking tumor is just /pol/-lite and abandoned to a Mad Max style wasteland of tripfagging religious nutcases arguing about mitochondrial dna

this place has gotten exponentially worse in every way since generals were normalized here

>>98352693
>tripfagging religious nutcases arguing about mitochondrial dna
Haven't used that place in maybe 8 years. Glad to know it hasn't changed. moot also literally said he would never make /his/ because "it would just be /pol/ with dates".
Anyways I have mixed feelings about generals because they can be nice for certain things, but also make you afraid to make a separate thread, especially if there's a faggot getting mad at you for not using it. Also there's a faggot who tried to make everything into a general. You can't just have one thread once in a blue moon.

>>98352702
Generals are nice for being a repository of resources,and they are functionally just worse versions of stickyd threads

The problem is how much it calcifies the userbase and culture

/tg/ was never the board for people who were obsessed with protocol regardless of how you feel about grognards and archetypal obsessive geeks until this phenomenon. Aggressive changes in moderation made it feel like a very manufactured shift in culture, and the dna of the original /tg/ was so much more like /k/ or /m/, a place where the older anons would work out posts and threads with sincere candid discussion instead of adhering to the general trolling/ragebaiting present in the containment boards. So fucking what if your posts is going to get farmed and end up in some shitty compilation video? This place was supposed to be enjoyable, not some weird cargo cult going through the motions of keeping feuds and policing off-topic threads for the sake of actually evoking emotion other than predictable boredom

Genuinely don't know why this board even bothers to keep the farce of dice roll instructions in the pinned thread

A 5e thread died for this.

>>98351495
>>98351653
I yearn for the day a janny goes ballistic and decides the warhammers should all be one general to see how anons here react.
Same for mtg I guess.
I don’t want to be a janny though.

>>98351626
about 80% of the cards in my playgroup are proxies we ordered from China because everyone there hates modern wotc.

>>98351495
We need generals banned as a general rule

>>98353058
>decides the warhammers should all be one general
To wit, why would 4 different game lines be pushed together?

>>98353378
Why do you hate the last places on this board where traditional games are being discussed in earnest?

>>98352693
>>98352724
stupid nigger writes this essay over and over in each of these threads because he's butthurt nobody engages with his dogshit threads like 'what do the demons fart in your setting' and 'what is your opinion on earth elementals that have gemstones for eyes?'

people shit on your threads because they're asinine, repetitive ritualposts you make for no reason other than to occupy space in a dead board, people would engage sincerely with you if you actually had anything to offer, which you don't

removing generals wouldn't change anything, everybody would just leave because no one wants to share a board with the likes of you

>>98351495
We do not need generals, period.

But the damage is done. The boards are shit now. No point in caring.

>>98353467
What are some examples of proper threads in the catalog right now?
I know there is a spammer who always posts the same commissioned art. Guy needs help or it is an ai.

>>98351587
>/mtg-UB/ anti-Universes Beyond - this one is weird and probably unnecessary and I don't expect it will really last very long.

This general was created as a crybaby hugbox by an /edh/ poster who has continual melties about the links in the /edh/ bake. It has no reason to exist, especially since it's original creator still shits up the edh general.

>>98353474
How are generals bad for /tg/ when they keep the big boys contained mostly so more niche topics relating to tg can have a better chance?

>>98353572
Generals have been a net negative for the overall culture of this website, encouraging the boards to become even more silo'd off from each other. They are a cancer onto this website.

>>98353592
Can I get some specifics please?
Sounds more like a community problem than a problem with the concept of generals.
I wasn’t around for the times when there were supposedly no generals but I am curious.

>>98353602
No, I can't really give you specific examples because you're asking me to point out the specific ways a culture has shifted when we're talking about this being, effectively, a different culture.

But to put it simply: generals make you all into fucking redditors. You insulate yourself into your little circlejerks.

>>98352693
>Everything else had the life strangled out of it.
By shitty moderation that allows and protects shcizo retards to make the same fucking threads over and over and over for nearly a decade. You act as if people are being forced to use generals, but they aren't, because General threads require you have actual interest and knowledge of a specific game or aspect of the hobby.

>These are things that /tg/ was literally made for
/tg/ was not made for "should barefoot farm girls be forced to work in taverns?" and other vapid, pointless, repetitive noise. It was made for talking about traditional games.

In short: Kill Yourself Puckee.

>>98353655
Maybe the problem isn’t generals and instead the culture of anons and jannies

>>98352496
Eternally Detrimental Hoarding.

>>98351764
Containment, easier browsing of the catalog, and easier for a non-MtG player to hide all MtG threads.

Generals wouldn't be so bad if the rules were enforced. Every general devolves into a handful of cliquey discordfags using it as their personal shitposting grounds and one or two schizos that get drawn into an eternal flamewar against them.
>>98353602
They go against ideals of the website. What's the point in an anonymous imageboard when everybody knows each other?

>>98351495
We used to but since the massive change from being a game to being just a collectable, we should start consolidating.
UB unironically killed the game, or at least the interest on tg
Mtga should still be separate though, if it even belongs on this board at all

>>98352496
Elder dragon highlander
Fucking newfag

Did the modern general actually die out? Lmao

>>98352895
And thats a good thing!

>>98352693
>People
You're being too generous about the "puckee/what/game/what/system" subhuman concern trolls. They're subhumans that deserve to be executed in a public square.

>>98353388
Why do you post like a bot?

>>98351495
I assure you Mr.Rotten that if they weren't separated they would rapidly degrade into format wars and general shitflinging. You simply cannot cram EDH, Modern, Standard, and let's say Pauper or Brawl into a single thread. The only discussion would be "why are these fags here I hate them and their retarded format for faggots".

>>98353592
Without generals the catalog would just be GW, MTG and D&D. No other topics would be able to survive the flood of every release, format and inane rules question posted as a separate thread. You can filter the generals if you don't like them.

>>98351495
Honestly, we don't need this site at all. The whole thing is circling the drain.

>>98354237
>Fucking newfag
Nigga not everyone is here for magic, especially a very specific form of it
The board isn't even half card games

>>98353467
I haven't made any thread on this board in longer than you've been able to read, you imbecilic projecting cuck. You need a strawman just to have a point to make, because otherwise your whole post would boil down to " well its a shitty, dead board anyway, who cares if we make it worse and never improve it"

You talk about no one wanting to share a board with people who make these exaggerated "pointless" threads as if you could contribute to one that isn't about inane circlejerking to the same 4 topics of your favorite tcg or a stillborn kickstarter you shill for and running your mouth like a /b/tard immigrant

in short, you post like a posing, tourist, doomer and this board worked just fine before the likes of you ever heard about it

What are some decent threads that aren’t generals worth their existence (I consider a low bar) and which ones deserve to be deleted?
I’ve made a few threads in the past hoping for genuine discussion but they didn’t go anywhere so I assume they never got anyone’s interest here.
I did make the mini painting style thread that has a grimdark mini styled mini on it.
I’m not sure if it counts but generally what are some rules or things to consider before making a thread here to ensure it is worth it?
I know pucker’s stuff isn’t good because it just is a nutcase’s obsession to have threads on the catalog.

>>98353602
The problem is that they encourage tribalism, and a sense of posting by rubric. You gather into little cliques, handpick who is allowed to discuss what and how, and if you don't fit the qualifications of the resident terminally online posters you will be treated as an alien element to be hammered into the proper specifications for the threads schizophrenic palate

It has degenerated the regular decorum that /tg/ had, in which we would generally only come to threads to engage if we had a constructive post to make and 90% of posters understand that if you are here, you are generally here to be creative in a vacuum despite the numerous alternatives available. Therefore you had a camaraderie. We would see topics that these days would invite shitflinging and the ritual "no gaemzs?" post and simply derail them into more interesting topics because the board was slow even then, and spontaneous ability to create value where there was previously just some tosspot nonsense is paramount to sharpen and encourage on a board that supposes itself to be comprised primarily of roleplayers, dms, and people with a general dispensation towards creation

people would tell stories about their table, ask for help in situations, lay bait threads just to pick anonymous brains about a hypothetical, build worlds, draw maps, roll for homebrew chapters/regiments/characters, ask for bits of inspirations, call upon the old grognards for stories of yesteryear, and actual make much original content

this board has fallen so far, I saw people in the fucking interboard football cup thread telling the posters they should've made the thread in /v/ calling for mods to clean it up, and if you're unaware thats a tradition nearly as old as the board itself

>>98355518
>people would tell stories about their table, ask for help in situations, lay bait threads just to pick anonymous brains about a hypothetical, build worlds, draw maps, roll for homebrew chapters/regiments/characters, ask for bits of inspirations, call upon the old grognards for stories of yesteryear, and actual make much original content
Even by 2014 you could tell there was a cultural calcification where you'd have green text/screencap threads with 0 downtime spamming the same exact stories like some sort of ritual.
Then moderation purged the drawfags, /qst/ and /his/ fractured the quest and world building groups, and 5e/40k/MtG becoming mainstream irreversibly tied the board to the culture war where liking things was a weakness to be exploited. Generals essentially became the scar tissue that's keeping this board from bleeding out from a death via thousand cuts, but at the same time stunting any renewal.

Puckee Ribbon Local Lord Jim Profit

>>98355628
Ribbon is wonderful and the eternal mascot of this board.

>>98355586
Yes, the board was stagnating, but I fear you are overly pessimistic in your assessment. A handful of threads about sexy kobolds, screencaps, a clear ritual 'magical realm' greentext meant to evoke an emotional discussion regarding game etiquette, are fairly tame negative repercussions when invoking a discussion on the older form of the culture of the website. As it stands, I also think you are giving far too much grace to general threads as if they were a byproduct of the changes and not one of the primary catalysts. They pushed in slowly at first with one or two tolerable threads to proof the concept, then they wanted the first page of the board. Now the whole board has suffered the changes made for their benefit, and the moderators who once rushed to delete any meta discussion of their sudden inclusion are silent when the same degenerate posters they invited rush to stifle any discussion outside of their safespace hugbox threads with obnoxious accusations and flaccid political illiteracy

>the only threads that actually talk about games are bad! because... uh... board culture and stuff
Get fucked.

>>98355436
So you don't make garbage threads, you just seethe incoherently whenever someone insults them. We've seen this song and dance before and it never goes your way, because you're a huge assblasted faggot who can't actually explain to anyone why we shouldn't want Puckee-tier spam removed from the board permanently.

>>98355707
>I rountinely ignore things I don't understand so I won't have to think to hard about why 10 threads were allowed to compromise the other 50

we know, please go back to chewing on your wooden alphabet blocks and patreon crowdfunded kickstarter pdf rules- lite totally epic d100 system set in dystopian futuristic steampunk albania, I hear if you pledge more than $10 the owners tattoo your username on their asscheek, don't wanna miss that deal yea?

>>98352724
>instead of adhering to the general trolling/ragebaiting present in the containment boards
/m/ is a shithole filled with exactly that. It has its own poopdickschizo shit and trolling/ragebaiting issue, which is a death sentence for a board that slow and niche.

>>98355628
>>98355642
I think schizoing out against drawfags making OC for the board was the start of the end of any "culture".
I've noticed some retards across the site driving them out whenever they can, just for making oc

/bgg/ is the only thread of any value, I've given up hope on the rest of this board actually talking about games.

>>98355921
Losing drawfags was a bigger harm to /tg/ than losing quests, but nothing is more harmful than the replacement of the core userbase with plebbitors, election tourists, feds, and then letting all of them be controlled by a new team of mods and jannies who hate this place and don't understand any of the boards well enough to be remotely helpful.

>>98355915
The necrobumping doesn't help, either, but yeah, the generals were a pretty drastic shift in how, say, AC was discussed and the /v/-style shitposting spread around the same time. Not quite dead, yet, but it's not in a good place.

>>98355436
put your money where your mouth is and show me the threads that were unjustly trolled, you won't do it because it's dogshit like >>98326424 or >>98324914

>>98356724
I'd bet money that is the same guy who has been regularly throwing a tantrum for a while now over threads getting "what system?" or "traditional games?" posts. He loves to act as if those low effort memes can single-handedly destroy legitimate and lively discussion in those fake worldbuilding threads he seems to care so much about.

>>98355474
Now I know this is going to sound crazy, but on /tg/ the board for traditional games, if you post about traditional games, as in playing them and notes you have, questions that came up, new models you're excited about, etc. it will be interesting to some.
>worth it
Not really how it works. Don't think about it like a popularity contest where each thread needs to get 300+ upvotes. Sometimes they get half a dozen, it answers the question and its done.That's okay.
If your interest fits in a general you can try that but don't have to.
Images on an image board help.
Not being a cockbite helps.
Not worrying about it too much helps.
You can do it anon.

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>>98355940
Oh hey my tulpa posted without me realising.

>>98353714
>In short: Kill Yourself Puckee.
Based

>>98351495
some retard has two "Open OSR" threads, that are both "not generals" at the same time

>>98355187
>thread about MTG
>cries about MTG
loal

>>98351495
We need to get rid of threads altogether and make threads fight for survival.

>>98357041
Thanks anon.