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are they gonna be showing next year's ub sets, too?
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>>98369535>TQa long, inevitable defeat, but most of the UW stuff looks decentHobbit is boring imo, but it seems to have less of the art problems that the LotR sets suffered from
>>98369535Who is she?
Thinking about how the pigs eat slop post got the slop eating pigs extremely upset.
>>98369558An OC, but she kinda has to exist since Bard had multiple kids who were the rulers of Dale by the time of LotR
>>98369558https://notionclubarchives.fandom.com/wiki/Erna
>>98369565that a fourth age character so she wouldn't be around during the time of The Hobbitif it meant to be Bard's wife then it should be this character>https://notionclubarchives.fandom.com/wiki/Ingrid_UnaBut as noted on that page, she only existed in an RPG splat book and is not a Tolkien character
Her consort.
how much money would a Zelda set make? More than FF??
>>98369585Hmmm... I like this vintage book cover treatment a lot. I'm a bit surprised, I usually hate alt borders.
Historic Ascension
>>98369535>What do you think about the future of Magic?The whiplash of "Hey some of the new sets look kind of decent, even cool" outside of Wakanda right into hobbit spoilers featuring a new elf commander in the standard set made me remember that 50% sets are still UB, and even if they weren't,100% of the sets are for commander. The game is still dead to me and I only check in every once in a while to see if it has any chance of not being shit.
>>98369550Why is this worth 7 mana?
>>98369594It was from a simpler time.
New Female
>>98369590gigaOP in the pioneer dwarfs deck
I hope tricknology makes an appearance in zhalfir
>>98369598>We want the Shadowheart audience.
>>98369605That's Arabic which they are not going to do.
>>98369598Who just snapped her neck? Brutal
>>98369598she's cute.>>98369612they got me.
More Dwarf typal
been watching all of LSV's vintage cube drafts. i like the guy but it gives me immense pleasure watching him lose. i would never call him arrogant but i love seeing him call a play inane or weird only to not see the line of thought behind it until it's too lateand second, what's your P1P1 for vintage cube here?
The Queen's consort
>>98369590Why have the threshold be so low for a non-interactable status?
>>98369606Cool protection spell.
Red's new evergreen counters.
>>98369590Goes great in my Fantasticar deck
>>98369270>lonely mountain>you can play 4 of thembravo Mark
>>98369651counters reanimate and evoke elementalprobably too expensive still
>>98369626AW YEAH FUCK GOBLINS
>>98369651>let your opponent make a big board>wipe it and cast thisseems fun but not very competitive
>>98369626das racist gandalf, you can't call yourself Zhalfir's Bane!
The set's archetypes are:WU: Draw a second card each turnGU: LandfallBG: FerociousBR: Sacrifice/AmassRW: Enduring Story
>>98369619faggot
New Female Dwarf
Is just me or this is the kind of UB we can all appreciate? I mean compared with shit like Marvel, TMNT or Spiderman
>>98369738no it sucks and is boringlotr was better. even asscreed has better designs. please never print another small ub standard set again you hacks.
>>98369721>smaug the impenetrable
>>98369621I would take Tendrils because I like storm. I don't play much Vintage cube so I don't know the list but I think Ancient Tomb and Echo of Eons are probably the strongest cards in the pack but obviously Entomb is fantastic for reanimator. If I didn't force storm I might go Ancient Tomb looking for a MUD deck or Echo to try and find Narset but also for things like High Tide.
>>98369738Stylistically, thematically. Yes.But it's still commanderslop by design, with few cards that will see play in any format but that.
>>98369621force boros>but there aren't many good boros cards in the pa--force borosevery time
>>98369588not sure it'd be more than FF, but it'd do well
>>98369738As just a collector, the art is infinitely better. I never felt so soul crushingly dissapointed by a pre-release as TMNT.
>>98369738to me the bigger problem isn't even fantasy UB vs non-fantasy UB, it's the fact that there's a new fucking set every other month, I can't keep up with all of this shit
>>98369643Are they going to errata chainsaw?
>>98369669These are commander only, right?
so far the best spoiler has been the Ron Spencer art for Bowmasters
>>98369793>xe went to a TMNT prereleaseyou are a faggot
>>98369643>asymetric countersIt's been a while
>>98369692>that hasn't been chosenEver? This turn?
>>98369812Will this bring down the price of the card?
>>98369862Yes, and?
>>98369881no
>>98369622>>98369585holy slop effects
>>98369588That's fucking stupid, Fi cannot even do anything on her own.
>Infinite card advantage for free.>Plenty of options to permanently block life gain so nobody can stabilize against you.>Every creature has high-toughness so you're never under threat of efficient removal.I like how they just solved every problem for red. It's cool when a game has no options for counterplay.
>>98369921>Every creature has high-toughnessName four.
>>98369878ever.
>>98369930The Walls of Ba Sign Se. Ancient Adamantoise. The Pride of the Cull Clade. Ghalta Stampede Tyrant.
>two headed giant prereleases are now one prerelease kit and two packs per team instead of two prerelease kits per team>still have to sign up individually instead of jointly>no mention of decreased entry feeslol
>>98369920But Girahim on the other hand///
>>98369937Only one of those can be played in mono red you retard.
>>98369881lollmaoenjoy buying boxes
>>98369738as a concept, yesif it's still a 200 card set, no
>>98369881With cardboard and marker all cards are free.
>>98369882
>>98369973Then it should be no surprise for you to know that I not only signed up for the hobbit pre-release but I'm going to play catch up and buy the LotR commanders I can get my hands on.blackagon, bless my my collection.
>>98369688For casual, I like this a lot. Also, once again this is as close as we are going to get to FTK in Standard...
>>98369812Special printings for modern mistakes just feel gross
So are they going to print the one ring into standard or not
As an arenachad im kinda hyped for hobbit.
>>98370042Read the card.
>>98369688>burning a tree>not land destructionlame>>98370056would that explain the card
>>98370056Where?
what's an enduring story? is it just "the city's blessing" type thing?
Guys watch what you say, jannies are literally threatening bans over people upset over the Wakanda set.
>>98369738>is it just me, or is a slap in the face preferable to a kick in the balls?
Do not post any imagery from this con to make fun of the Zhalfir set. Anyone posting images of videos mocking African characters will receive permanent bans. Reddit may allow this crap, 4chan does not.
>>98370082>food analogy
>we want the Atlantis audience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU29XcS8WR4
>>98370042I don't think so, we got a ring card but it's different. It's probably getting reprinted in the commander set or the bonus sheet if there is one.
>>98370099Yes.
>>98370099The next 3 in Universe are AtlantisPacific RimWakanda
>>98370068yes.
>>98370117pacific rim did not invent giant samurai robots fighting giant monsters reeee
>>98370083Yeah but seriously though, I got an official warning and everything instead of just a ban. Haven't seen one of those in years, I figured the warn button was broken.
>>98370127it did for INTERDIMENSIONAL MONSTER BREACHING IN. Dont try to talk to me about Super Sentai and Kaiju, they even fucking added NOT JEAGGER Pilots
>>98370127Ain't nobody in the states give one shit about tokushit anon.
I like the Zhalfir set
>>98370136My headcanon is that Titanbreack is just to easy people up for when they reveal MMPR UB
>>98370133they fight giant youkai in Kakuranger specifically, but I'm quite sure there are sentai series where they fight interdimensional monsters, and ultraman does it too>NOT JEAGGERjaeger pilots are just NOT RANGERS
>>98370139I fucking hate you and hope you die
>>98370147I always thought this card was a reference to "power rangers".
>>98370151Power Range is basically american Localization of Super Sentai.>>983701471) Not Interdimensional Monster 2) Not Combine/ Gatai Ultraman will be closer but UM is not a Giant Mech
>>98370139I wouldn't hate it if it wasn't so obviously Wakanda. Like some of the spirits look cool but all of the humans designs are so ass.
>>98370139I've not seen it yet so I cannot tell if I like it. If it will be traditional tribal shamanistic, fuck yeah. If it will be wakanda nonsense, pass.
>>98370151you could argue it's actually a reference to... voltron
>>98370159he looks like he has flying deathtouch and lifelink
>>98370159I mean wakanda is the most well know african Scy-fy..the other option was Gorilla City and that is plan as generic DESU
>>98370168Yeah you're right. I forget that a lot of magic players are 80s kids, not 90s kids.
I was cleaning and found the first rare I ever pulled as a kid stuffed in a box.God they don't make em like they used to
>>98370202step aside noob I'll frag this charlie
>>98370139IMO for the upcoming setsWaterworld > Wakanda >>>>>>>>>>>>> NEOvagina 2New plane has the most untapped potential, obviously. Being underwater hopefully will limit the self-insertable humanspam without going too far into furry territory, which is nice.Wakanda is cringe but WotC has done tasteful african themed areas before. I don't really expect them to this time, but the potential is there. At bare minimum it ties into good pre-mending lore, which it hopefully doesn't take a dump on.No amount of tranime references is ever going to make me like the rape of Kamigawa, much less the apparently now-regular Spyro Subway dump train they're doing on it. If only weeaboos could be trusted to restrain themselves from consooming THING:JAPAN.
>>98370223>see robot fighting kaiju>think of spyro taking a shit ?
>>98370178>african Scy-fyIt's American Jewish fantasy with an African setting, they really don't create anything they steal it or have it made for them. I would much rather actual African mythologies be adapted for an mtg setting than just post George Floyd BLM nonsense with spells.
Shit things moved way to quick.Sorry guys, I wrote all this so I will post anyway>>98364026Damn, I think he would barely be playable 9 years ago. What a garbage card.>>98364040Now that is the kind of FIRE garbage we like.>2 mana AjaniToo Slow but probably could see play as a 2 off (shocking that a 2 mana pw is almost unplayable).>6 mana red ajaniSomewhat good but no home I think. If there was a super friends deck I could see him being a finisher. Just need solid cmc 3, 4 & 5 walkers to probably be playable. Play him, activate a bunch of pw abilities then either give hast or clear the board.Both Chandra could be used with this ajani but I don't think it would be good. (BTW it is bullshit you can have both chandras in play)Standard is too quick and bs for him imo.>>98364064Black liliana as a creature is ok, but white liliana should have been that 2 mana ajani.... Well, White lili will see play in soul sisters with ajani for sure. Black lili has potential because of the mill, could become a combo piece.>>98364086>black garrukFirst 2 pw abilities are good/alright, a bit slow but ok. Last ability is so lame and commander coded that I want to puke.>green garrukstatic is good/ok. all pw abilities are a throw back to 1st garruk. Kinda lame but somewhat playable.
>>98370272>>98364098>>98364100I m so sick of those reddit joke characters.>>98364152damn soul sisters will be lame to play against in draft.>>98364178card draw with extra steps.>>98364258Giving me the "Ixalan test" booster images they were testing a while ago.>>98364322ok, got that kamigawa vibe from the blurred image right.>>98364383New Phyrexia without anything cool and nice from new phyrexia, it is wakanda now. I skip easy peasy. >>98364870lady on the left looks like Sisay but with a shit hair style.>>98364864LMAOTime to expose the fraud that is african studies.
>>98369585DOUBLINGDOUBLINGEVERY SET DOUBLINGYYYIIIPPEEEE
>>98369738I don't buy UB but these cards will be nicer to look at/play against.
>Jace's idea of fixing Ajani's life was to never let him complete his vengeance after his brother's death and instead let him wander unfulfilled and consumed by his grudgeWhy, blue boy?
>>98370117>even non-ub is ub
>>98370309Jace is a prolific furry hater.
>>98370099>coolest submarine ever >has less than 15 minutes of screen time in the movie I've hated Disney ever since
>>98370309>Chandra being soo hot-headed is bad for reality>HEY Ajani, do Cats like fire?
>>98370309all baddies won because they were more powerful than good guys so jace switched their alliance and now the new good guys win
dey call dis one mount niggamore
>Jace let Garruk's life go to hell because he never cared about Garruk and he only thought the Chain Veil was a problem insofar as it made Liliana unhappyHe's such a manbaby.
>>98370309He looks like a Jundchud
>>98370351Compelling writing.
>>98370419This art seems a bit racist
>>98370445why doesn't the black version make deathtouch creatures like all the other black garruks instead of tramplers
>tfw no spoil-seizing tuskeri gf
>>98370276continuing >>98365203>>98365217I don't think the designers know their own lore at this point. Zhafir was trapped in time. For them Visions-Mirrage-Weatherlight happened like 30 years ago or less. The most fearsome thing from the region was either the dragons or Shauku (Endbringer) or the Spirit of the Night.This set looks like it will have lots of revisionism and that suck.>>98365364I mean, it wasn't og Kamigawa or anything like that anymore so they can destroy it as much as they like.From the thing revealed so far this is by far the best one.>>98367427Their concept designers suck, damn>>98368075This.Also I hate that they are trying to redesign something that was frozen in time. They had not long ago suffered years on two massive wars in the region and were also preparing to fight the phyrexians. The Mirage War ended in 4196 AR The Keldon invasion in 4204 AR (and later the phyrexian invasion).It was only 18 years since the first things we saw from the region and only 10 years from when we last saw it in Prophecy block.
>>98369535For one moment I thought they stopped being retarded and did a games of thrones universes beyond. Damn.Also, nice never mentioned mythic character without a name.>>98370419Wakanda had a really bad impact on all of fantasy.>>98369662Should have been a Orc Soldier.>>98369643This has nothing to do with Sting.>>98369626lame>>98369622>>98369585>consortWhat Queen? The unnamed one that is not in the books or even cited anywhere. It is more likely Bard asked people to call him Maam. In the book it is said people of Dale mobilize because of him (they even call themselves Bard-lings).>>98369619>>98369590WR depending on uncommon legendaries +sagas and artifacts looks like a bad draft archetype
>>98370581>Visions-Mirrage-Weatherlight happened like 30 years ago or lessThe same is true of magic the gathering itself, and yet look how much is changed.
>>98369713Pooner dwarf dood
>>98370309>>98370445So uhh, this whole set is basically just pic related but done by Jace isn't it? All the other Chad planeswalkers are just a buncha meanie trolls and his blue and true, pure Chandra waifu helps him ramp and draw into his based counterspells, even when she whoopsie! messes up and throws them away.
>>98370637this meme was not meant to leave /tttt/ friendo
Pretty underwhelming spoilers for Hobbit so far, I guess the book cover alt arts are cool looking.
I like the Hobbit set
>>98369729>Elrondomg omg omg is thatIS ITCOULD IT BEDOTHINGDRAWCARD?!?!?!??!?
>>98369729Why's he blue?
>>98370869same reason he was blue in the first lotr set
>>98370658So this... is the real Dimensional Merge...Bravo, Christian...
>>98370658Sonichu secret lair when?
>>98370869So it's slots into Loki deck, or vice versa.
Id like a sonichu set
>>98369619>if an ability you control triggers, that ability triggers an additional time
>>98369626>vivi but fixed
wtf
>>98370963It's okay. In 2030 we'll get a 3/3 for W that says "if your opponent would double a number, trigger an ability an additional time, or repeat an action as part of a resolution of a spell or ability, instead they do nothing. If you would double something, triple it instead "
>>98370989What's that? Noctua?
>Liliana Blanca is decayingJace shouldn't have stopped her from giving Kothophed that blowjob.
>>98369812Now we just need reprints of the 1 mana cycling commons from lotr. Fucking Lorien Revelead and Generous Ent are up to almost 5$ for fucking COMMONS.
>>98370999Yeah it's from the FB page
>>98371015Cute. But without context the fish could be either food or nobility.
>>98369738I think The Hobbit is boring as fuck and I view it with equal disdain as other UBs.
>>98371024>Bloomburrow under water.Please and thank you.
>>98370992
>>98369729>tap mana dork for mana>draw a card off itWOW VERY POGGERS MY FELLOW CHUNGUSES
I like the underwater set will it be a good step towards the bikini bottom set.
>all of my decks have over 50% winrate>all of the deck I hate to play against have under 50% winratebased
>>98370553I'd seize her spoils if you catch my drift
>surrounded by an illusory swarm of his own pained screaming faceHe's trying to farm pity points so bad.
>>98369585>WU>Reachfor fuck sake Wizards STOP
Rate my idea>If you would do a thing, do the thing twice.>If you would double a thing, double it again.
>>98371123I like the replacement effect doubler, not seen that before
The notAfrica set is going to pale in comparison to the original.
>>98371117It's because he's an archer.
>>98371123if you would double the thing, triple it as well
>>98370999Is this the closes I'll ever get to street sharks?
>>98369738It's okay. Trek looks better.
>>98371146
>>98371232agreed, I can't wait to go to infinity and beyond
>>98369738its not as jarring as trek or capeshit but its still pretty boring overall and is again clearly designed with commander in mind and not much else
>>98369535You have to admire WotC's restraint in not making their DEI OC a black kween
>>98371343they fired the "here's what you would look like if you were black or asian" guy and replaced him with the "here's what you would look like if you were mtf" guy
I cant wait to see how i can combine hobbits and star trek in my commander deck.
SEXOOOO SEXOOOO SEXOOO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOOOOOO
WHERE THE FUCK IS LOOT!? WE LOVE YOU LOOT PLEASE COME BACK DONT DO IT LOOT I SWEAR I DIDNT MEAN IT JUST COME BACK LOOT!!!
>>98371046Sponge Bob extra sheet, trust the plan>>98371175Like everything wotc does now.
>>98370989Oh, hey, red sharks.That reminds me. Does anyone here remember that Jaws Secret Lair from last year? This was included in the announcement:>A Universes Within version of Jaws, Relentless Predator will appear in a future Magic releaseGuess we know which set that was referring to! And we can probably assume that the set will feature red / Rakdos sharks as a draft archetype using blood tokens.
>>98369619>typalKill yourself nigger
Do not kill yourself. It is a sin unto Lord.
Yeah dont just think what bildo baggins would do and just move forward maybe even boldly my zahlfrigga skibidi penis.
best afrofantasy incominghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nfCx4kpFbU
>>98369738It would be, if they did not bastardize Tolkien for the second time.Hard pass again. Will not even consider using a single card.Final Fantasy seems to be the only one they can do without this retarded shit.
>>98370445So each pack comes with both cards? Is that going to make pack opening really good?
KamIkoria robots are just setting the ground for end of year power rangers isn't?
>>98371805I want to like Afrofantasy, but I have no faith in WotC to deliver. Especially when their reveal trailer can't shut up about muh representation and other modern activist talking points. They also implicitly admitted they view all black people as a unified global culture. Fucking niggerbrained garbage.
>>98371848Firs answer, yes. Second answer, it depends on the rest of the set
>gandalf is chinese again
>>98371651i find boring how draft is just pick 2 colors and stick to themmaro design really butchered the format
>>98371874We improved him. You are welcome, goy.All praise Diversity!
I only care of Noctis because the ocean is full of scary fucksBut i know wizards will ruin it with afro and chinese melkfork instead
>>98371907>african merfolk>not scary fucks?
>>98371925>he steal yo bike AND escape into the water where police can't chase himSuch a creature would be too powerful.
>>98371805It'll never be as cool as this was unfortunately.>>98371869It genuinely could be cool, but the motivations behind it are soul sapping, not to mention they seem to base everything around their own take on Wakanda for some reason.You can also bet there won't be any white people in this set, but they still with darken up Lord of the Rings. White culture is for everyone, black culture is only for black people.As you said, their constant appeals to representation and diversity definitely don't help either.At least the underwater set looks pretty cool.
>>98371834Why is he black? This was literally a meme on /v/ where a black hand would be touching a package or otherwise in the shot to race bait. WoTC are literally just race baiting with this trash. What the fuck?
>>98372006>spoilerThis card has also circulated on /v/ and other boards because of that meme. Its both WotC and the current Tolkien Estate. After Christopher Tolkien's death, his grandchildren did not care to protect their families legacy the way Christopher did. Its been completely taken over. When the people managing it, give it to people like WotC, thats what you get.I would have thrown money hand over fist at WotC for a LotR set done as respectfully and faithfully as possible, like FF got. I'm sure everyone who bought the current shite cards would have done the same. For as well as that set did (unfortunately) and as well as The Hobbit will probably do also (unfortunately), I do genuinely think they would have done even better if they did not try this subversive shit. I flat out refuse to even use LotR cards personally, regardless of power or quality. Its just insulting. Its a shame the average mtg player though is the walking personification of reddit though, so it gets eaten up and justified at every turn by the majority of the playerbase.Anyway, here is a biological brother and sister for no particular reason.
>>98371868Go Go Power Rangers !For this to work they would have to do multiple ranger teams (to have more than 1 zord) and there are seassons that are a bit troublesome politicalwize. I don't think wotc would represent a PowerRangers team where the rangers are ICE agents or fighting to keep illegal aliens from going to Earth for exemple.
>>98372046>>98371868Given that magic is popular in Japan, it would be very stupid of them to do Power Rangers imo.Power Rangers is literally repurposed fight footage from Japanese Super Sentai shows. Zordon and Alpha and all that other bullshit was added only in the American series. It would be a conceptual mess to bridge the gaps between those shows for the Japanese players.
What's my best option if I want to sell this guy for as much as I can get?
>>98372069It's a bit dinged up, doesn't see play in most formats, and isn't particularly hard to find. You could probably get $20-30 cash for it but it's honestly not the sort of card worth stressing over.
>>98372073>You could probably get $20-30 cash for itAt my card shop?
>>98372084From a rando that happened to be thumbing through your trade binder. Card shops tend to operate off buylist or heavy markup so there you're probably looking at like $15 or $25 store credit.
>>98372087>probably like $15 or $25 store credit.Oh so where do I sell if I want the total value? I don't have a trade binder or a guy thumbing through it.
>>98371977>Wakanda for some reasonThis is a little offensive but I think it's because they know deep down that average IQs do in fact vary somewhat by ethnicity, and the Wakanda obsession is a compensatory inversion of the uncomfortable truth. They're still western moderns, after all, so they see intellect and technological prowess as the sole measures of human worth.
>>98372123The 'total value' is what you can expect to buy it for, not what you can expect to sell it for if that makes sense. Finding a buyer whether that's in person or on ebay or wherever takes sweat equity, luck, and time. Stores absorb that risk and that process, which is why they won't pay you that amount.
>$2999https://www.cardkingdom.com/mtg-sealed/the-lord-of-the-rings-tales-of-middle-earth-collector-booster-box
>>98372123Didn't we go through this in a recent thread?Sell in person to someone on Facebook Marketplace or whatever is local to you. If you try to sell inside a store, the store might not like that. If you try to sell TO a store, you won't get full value. You'll probably be offered store credit and have to buy something with it.If you sell online via a storefront's buylist, you also won't get full price. eBay will get you full price, but has listing costs and you still have to do shipping (not really a problem for a single card, toploader + envelope + stamp should be fine). An online marketplace without a listing cost will probably have a cash-out cost (Cardsphere takes 10% and wants you to cash out $100 at a time, for example).
>>98372155If it's going to be scalped anyway, then stores might as well be the ones taking the profits.Nobody owes you free tendies.
>>98372149That sucks. I appreciate the informative answers. I guess $15 is a good price for it? I don't really play MTG anymore.>>98372159>Facebook MarketplaceI didn't think of this. That's a good idea. Everywhere else makes it seem like you're better off keeping what you have.
>>98370658Didn't Ixidor do this with Akroma?
>>98372183>i know what i got!>convenience and trust has no value and is never worth ANY tradeoffPlease, you have to grow out of this boomerism at some point. Stores offer what makes sense for their business goals, and you are free to sell things you own to whoever you want.
>>98372198Who are you quoting?
>>98372183>I guess $15 is a good price for it?You can check price history on mtgstocks.com and decide what a good price is. See pic, or link for details.>https://www.mtgstocks.com/prints/9669-lotus-petalIf you're selling on eBay you compare against active and recently closed auctions, of course. But a lot of online pricing sites have the same prices because they pull from there too. I use Cardsphere a lot, and on there the price for a Tempest copy is currently $32.94, right in the same range.>https://www.cardsphere.com/cards/43233BUT. That's the price for a Near Mint card. If yours has wear, people who care about card condition will probably want to pay less for it. On the other hand, if you're selling in person, people might pay more for the convenience of having the card instantly, AND being able to check it out before buying.>Everywhere else makes it seem like you're better off keeping what you have.Don't fall for the "investor" mindset. Hold on to cards you play with or ones with sentimental value. "It might be worth something later" could be true, but it's worth nothing until you sell it, and only takes up space (physical and in your mind) until then.
nauctis now is your timeCrab kindred
>>98372205Nah, we'll finally get our second legendary whale
>>98372041I wish people would stop claiming that FF was done faithfully and respectfully. The set is so obviously just a bunch of miscellaneous designs that WotC had been storing in the backburner that they then retrofitted onto characters. The number of cards that are genuinely flavorful and evocative of the character or moment they are trying to reference are probably in the single digits.
>>98372232Consider: They didn't niggershift Cloud.That alone is a HUGE win for FF appreciators.
>>98372235Yes, I understand that people are retarded enough to think that just pissing on a franchise instead of shitting and puking on it is somehow treating the material with respect.Monster Hunter also didn't get niggerized either and yet Capcom still told them to pull that shit because the cards didn't do a good job at translating the characters and items they were supposed to represent into MtG.Ironically, the only UB material that I think was treated well and with respect was the Sonic secret lair. They actually bothered to make unique effects that felt like top down attempts to translate the characters into Magic.
>Lord of the Rings isnt diverse enough so we black face half the cast>The Hobbit isnt progressive enough so we make up diverse characters because the book was dudes onlyDamn. Tolkien would've been canceled into oblivion today.
>>98372232I'm talking about art specifically. Art and flavor play a big role, much as people want to claim "but magic is just numbers and rules on cardboard", its not. Also this >>98372235. We are literally talking about bastardization of the source material by injecting racial politics and and race swapping characters. Of course thats the focal point.>>98372260>people are retarded enough to think that just pissing on a franchise instead of shitting and puking on it is somehow treating the material with respect.When they are using UB, they are using it for the art and flavor. Not because they have any sort of "mechanics" that should be in Magic. Sure sometimes, they get both, but the entire point is the art, flavor, and built in fan base. No one who has never played magic before suddenly decided to dive in because "You can summon bahamut somewhat similarly to how you can summon him in Final Fantasy!" Also Summons were very cool, and with how Yuna works well with them, that alone was fun enough for me.>>98372266His grandkids and daughter-in-law were quick to run his legacy into the ground the moment they took control of the Tolkien Estate.
>>98372266I think in some ways it's actually the inverse, so much of fantasy the past century was responses to/copies of Tolkien so stylistic choices that were reflective of his time in WW1 and his personal preferences became codified as dogma. LotR was a bunch of dudes hiking in the forest trying to not die in a ditch because he spent a nontrivial amount of time with a bunch of dudes hiking in the forest trying not to die in a ditch. It's like if Lord of the Flies became a pillar of western literature and people were asking where the women were: they're not on the fucking island.
>>98372266>>98372282How many times do I have to tell you guys. Shoving blacks and women into LOTR/Hobbit is really about creating a "legally distinct" version that stands up to copyright law. With Christopher dead, no one is enforcing adherence before IP is farmed out. And with IP rapidly approaching public domain, everyone will want to protect THEIR product from being public domain too. So we get haphazard adaptations that need to change something significant to be distinct from all the OTHER adaptations. Diversity is something WOTC pushes, yes, but here it's actually used to protect an IP investment.
>>98372300thats the biggest cope I've read in weeks
>>98372069Lotus Petal is not banned?
>>98372304How is being realistic about the cynical nature of corporate business a cope? Diversity only matters when it pushes the line up. LOTR's 1/1 Ring lottery basically ensured that LOTR 2 would happen with a 'whatever you did, do it again' attitude. Statistics can be sliced and spun however you want. WOTC has no doubt pointed to LOTR financial success as 'diversity sells' internally. WOTC won't stop or reassess things unless Hobbit folds like Spiderman and they start looking for a cause/something to hang it on.>>98372311See pic. It's also legal in Premodern, which might drive up demand, but I have no idea if it sees play in anything. Brain Freeze Storm, maybe?
>>98372317Amazing how lotus petal is restricted in Vintage and yet now it feels like every set has a dozen cards that shit them out like candy.
>>98370989Dethklok "Blood Ocean" art looks sick
When's the Arknight, Geshin Impact or ZZZ set?
>>98372069How do Americans sell cards? Do you not have anything like cardmarket?
>>98372300>Shoving blacks and women into LOTR/Hobbit is really about creating a "legally distinct" version that stands up to copyright lawI don't buy this in the slightest. Sorry mate.
>>98372317>Hobbit folds like Spiderman and they start looking for a cause/something to hang it on.Thats not happening, because everyone and their mother knows the value of previous LotR sets and is going to buy that shit by the truckload hoping tthis will be a repeat of the first. (It won't). So this set is going to do well, and besides that, see >>98372041>Its a shame the average mtg player though is the walking personification of reddit though, so it gets eaten up and justified at every turn by the majority of the playerbase.
>>98372372In 10 years time when WotC is gutted.
>>98372388Fantastichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NHrKgAL4nI
How much longer til they do another UB where the license holders hold a gun to WotC's head again?
>>98372232FF had more flavorful designs compared to Spiderman.
>>98372322That's because it cost mana idiot.
10 years ago at FNM I was playing the round to determine who who would land in the money (3-1) and who would be down the entrance cost (2-2). I lost and as the guy is packing up he looks me in the eye and tells me "If you're not cheating, you're not trying". I never saw him again at the store. I have thought about this literally every day of my life since and to this day, I don't know if I got swindled out of $5.
>>98372385>everyone and their mother knows the value of previous LotR sets and is going to buy that shit by the truckloadBut that's exactly what brought down Spiderman. Scalpers bought it up, player demand wasn't there. They *can* fuck it up. Unlikely but possible.>>98372380LOTR actually cares about bloodlines. The "divine right of kings" is literal. It's elfblood. WOTC had an extremely easy justification for making ALL elves and their descendants black. But they didn't. Why? It's gotta be the money. Market research must have told them that an "all-black" or even "black-focused" set wouldn't sell. WOTC might be the biggest part of Hasbro these days, but it still has to justify its decisions financially. Remember how Maro kept saying Kamigawa 2 won't happen because of money? Remember how "nature enchantment vs tech artifact" was a different set/plane altogether before they pivoted unfinished content into Kamigawa and could only make it happen that way?The 90s were a much different consumer climate. There were multiple "black family" TV shows the whole of America watched weekly. "Black product" was getting into mainstream, meaning it was consumed by the entire customer base instead of just one segment. On top of that, Mirage was actually planned from the very start by Garfield (it was supposed to follow Arabian Nights and Ice Age). A "black set" wasn't a "difficult sell" then, both because it wasn't difficult (everyone was doing it) and because it didn't need to be sold (internally to justify production).Zhalfir is different now. It feels like it's happening because of Wakanda because that is how it would be justified internally to the moneybags at Hasbro. I wouldn't be surprised if the people behind the push aren't about diversity as much as they are on the slop train. Sales are the only thing that matters because WOTC got into its current position at Hasbro during reorg due to strong sales. WOTC can do whatever it wants regarding diversity or UB if $ flows.
>>98372232I made a FF set cube because they made a very good limited environment. I don't know FF that well but from what I have played of the series the flavor seems to be there. Cecil for example is an excellent remake of the game. You can't win with him in dark knight form. Just like how in the game they say that Cecil will never defeat evil while wielding evil.
>>98372449>But that's exactly what brought down Spiderman. Scalpers bought it up, player demand wasn't there.The same thing is not going to happen with this one. Player demand, sadly, is in fact there for The Hobbit.>Bloodlines>Blacks>MoneyYou're thinking about this in the wrong way.This is not about money its about sending a message. Not to larp as the Joker here, but in regards to the race swapping of LotR, this is activism and nothing more.And LotR is the perfect set to do that in because its largely seen as "white culture" making it a ripe choice for activists and is EXTREMELY popular by itself, thus regardless of what happens, is very likely to sell anyway.
>>98372427Beast mode desu, but god 2016 was also a truly shit time to play constructed. Hollowed One in modern, felidar and energy in standard.
When we will know our fate with UBs?
>>98372480Technically if you have any other source of lifegain you can easily beat the shit out of your opponent without ever flipping him
>>98372232Art is good, proper flavor with characters and their mechs, the summons being sagas was perfect. Very good draft format and aside from Vivi nothing was absurdly imbalanced. It felt like a core set with FF flavor. I miss drafting it every day.It's something WotC will chase for every future UB set and NEVER replicate.
When us the next standard ban announcement. I don't wanna play against UR anymore...
>>98372495And they won't even understand why IPs that are technically "more popular" than FF, will never do as well.
>>98372501UR will be top tier alongside Cub until morale improves LOL
>>98372484>This is not about money its about sending a message.I think it's both. WOTC wants to be "inclusive/progressive/liberal/etc" but its position as the top Hasbro moneymaker brings a lot of financial scrutiny. So they combine what they *want* to do with something that is likely to bring in money, and then point to the financial success to get the OK to do more of what they want. A lot of what happened in the past couple of years has been a build-up to justify Maro's MTG Star Trek obsession. If THAT bombs, I can actually see Maro getting fired. That IP didn't come cheap.
>duress t1>opp shows duress, cruelclaw's heist, negate, jeskai revelation, stock up, and two landsyeah I scooped on the spot, go to mythic or whatever, I am not playing against that
>>98372537I'm going to make a star trek cube if the draft environment is fun. A borg cube?
>>98372572If a format allows 4c/5c as anything but fringe strategy like maze end/door to nothingness then it is in dire need of fixing.
>>98372537I hate UB with a passion but Star Trek is the one that looks kind of cool and at least fitsFederation starship crews are always running into some eldritch horror or man-made abomination out in space, there's enough political intrigue and Federation politics for colors like black and white, blue is a given, if anything they'll have trouble filling out green and maybe red but they'll probably just spam Klingons for thatI dunno I'm watching TNG for the first time and I'm pretty excited for the Trek set, at least more than I am for "LotR cards that were cut from the first LotR set", and "literally three marvelslop sets"oh shit I just now this moment realized all the UB are "other nerd shit"Can't wait for Denis Villanueve's DUNC set
>butyea naah
>>98372576I'm unironically excited for Star Trek. It's going to be big and amazing. 4chan is just filled with haters and contrarians.
I thought shills don't work on sundays
>>98369721why would anybody ever target smaug with noncombat damage if he has indestructible?>7 mana>dies to Erode
>>98371290>nuKhanBARF
>>98372041>a LotR set done as respectfully and faithfully as possible, like FF gotkek imagine if Cloud Strife in his one sole card was just a black guythey would never even dream of trying itbut that very thought exposes their true intentionas soon as it's a "literary character" whom you can't physically see, boom, every marriage is interracialthey are gagging to do it whenever it's even slightly appropriateinsane
>Star Trek>CoolIs people saying this just gaslighting?,
>>98372617let alone fitting
>>98372069>>98372084>>98372123>>98372183reselling wotc products is illegal :)
>>98372300yeah nothis is tinfoil bullshitblack aragorn isn't made so that they can make a new tv show with him, jotc isn't in that racketit's simpler than you thinklook at how many recent champions and jotc employes have blue hairwe have been co optedthey make aragorn black to rub it in your face, chuddiethey control your hobby now
>>98372317>NOT LEGAL>Standarddoesn't exist, simple as
>>98372621Umm excuse me bigot, Edge of Eternities JUST happened and totally was not done as an excuse to have space ships in universe to justify Star Trek. Edge of Eternities was neat, but thats exactly what they were doing with it.
>>98372617what the fuck do you think is "cool", retard? star trek mogs you
Why did they remove the UB borders?
>>98371071>multiversesit's all an excuse to get teferi back, isn't it?>t3feri reprint
>>98370899>i'm going to go to jail for something so heinous my memes will infect every facet of real lifeliquid chris... I kneel
>>98372594>>98372617It'll be cool when it's self contained, like most UBs. The issue is when you start mixing everything. Pic very much related, this was satire at one point but we're nearly there.
>>98372449>Zhalfir is different now. It feels like it's happening because of Wakandai kinda doubt that if WotC wanted to go into that Black Panther Afro-fantasy craze they are about 7 years to late
>>98372647Sorry that your idea of "cool" is shit, hilarious and often pathetically mocked by the last bunch of products your favourite forgotten franchise released, grandpa, now it's time to go to bed and wait that sweet death embrace.
>>98372653Players thought they looked ugly.
Why did they make Sneak when Ninjutsu alresfu exists?
why did they change the triangle sticker on UB cards to the oval one?
>>98372706sneak is an alternate casting cost and ninjitsu just puts the creature onto the battlefield. the interactions are different even if the effect is overall the same.
>>98371010I sense a ban...
>>98372667Coherent if it's boomers planning things 5 years ahead
>>98369585>if do thing, do thing twice>if do thing, draw card>if do thing, do other thing too
>>98369634This. The fact that it's an emblem makes this stupid. It's not even slightly hard to get three artifacts or leggos into play (especially since it counts itself as one).
>>98372706They wanted it on instants and sorceries.
>>98369554Speaking of LOTR and art problems, I wasn't here for all of the kerfuffle with the race swaps Was it just one-sided W to B or were there also like Pacific Islander Rohirrim and East Asian Gondorians, Arabic Elves, Hispanic Hobbits, etc
>>98371252nice
>>98371117Blue has access to flyingWhite has access to being worse than the other colorsSo WU can get "flying but worse"
>>98369878Reading the card explains the card. Do you see any "this turn"?
>>98372805They made Easterlings whiteIn fact, I'm pretty sure all the evil humans in the set are white, and while you could argue some of those are Black Numenorians, having an Easterling be White and also look like a random barberian which isn't how they are portrayed in the book, is odd to say the least
>>98372606You cast your own Blasphemous Act
>>98372706>>98372721>>98372653
>>98369585>does literally exactly one thing in the story: kills a nearly invulnerable dragon by targeting its weak spot>do thing draw card + token value for some reason???
>>98372842Not all Easterlings.
>>98372232on the one hand yes. but on the other it was a really good setand had a bunch of cool anime dudes and cute anime girls which are both things that people like
>>98372587>>98372576>I hate UB with a passion but Star Trek is the one that looks kind of cool and at least fitswhat the fuck am I reading?no.
>>98372941Every cloud has a silver lining.
>>98372706you can't put ninjutsu on noncreatures, which is something they wanted to do
>>98372300>nooo stop noticing!>there's no such thing as a true believer, goiym, it's just capitalism!>you don't hate gay race marxism, you hate capitalism, nooooo!It's not going to work anymore, rabbi. We're awake now.
Akoocheemoya, we are far from the sacred dreadmaws of our grandfathers, we are far from the limited environment of my people.
Zhalfir will flop as hard as TMNT next year.
>a second SLD OrvarA little bit based
>>98373096Well it is a rather popular commander.
>>98373106>A flesh-eating mangle of plate and bone. Demon scorched, worm-hex applied. Redemption torn. Transmogrified.FromSoft minor NPC dialogue
>>98373106>>98373111Luv me some Ian Miller kino
>>98373106>>98373111Man the KTK border really makes everything look like shit.
>>98373162I disagree.
>>98372819>So WU can get "flying but worse"NOITCANNOTTHE COLOR PIE HAS NEGATIVE SPACEREMOVING NEGATIVE SPACE FROM THE COLOR PIE MAKES THE GAME WORSE
>>98373166Yes, you're an idiot with no sense for aesthetics, we know.
i think it's neat
>>98373106>>98373111is this new art by Miller or just reusing his old work?
>>98373169based holy basedextraordinarily based
>>98373196Hey this seems actually good?
>>98373196Great art at least.
>>98373206it's a 3 mama literal do no thing
>>98373206it doesn't even have trample or flying or ward
>>98373206it's 3 mana and it's a modern horizons card, you can't play it in standard/pioneer
if i play against a black person in zhalfir limited is it racist of me to not auto-concede?
>>98373507Do you auto-concede against Mongolians when playing a Takir set?
>>98373206Pic related is a standard 3 cmc beatstick which saw play.The whale has worse stat, requires you to keep it alive and exists in higher power level formats.
>>98373547epic flavor text for the win
>>98373616don't be such a no-fun-allowed poopypants
>>98373625Well THAT just happened...
>>98373625Errm, actually? This is epic.
Ironic shiposting is still shitposting.
>>98373826you playing greasefang?
>>98373828He was making new rat right there in front of him.
>>98373828boros ponza
How is it that Pestilence and Pyrohemia can be the same exact card, yet one goes for less than a dollar and the other is at least 10?
>>98372480>I don't know FF that wellThank you for being honest but I don't understand why you think your opinion here matters. Let's look at Cecil's back half:>Lifelink>Whenever ~ attacks, other attacking creatures gain indestructible until end of turnIf I gave you that rules text and told you it was a Final Fantasy character, what character would you default to?Have a few more:>When ~ enters the battlefield, search your library for an equipment, reveal it and put it into your hand then shuffle your library.>As long as ~ is equipped, if an ability of ~ or an equipment triggers, it triggers an additional time.>Flying>As long as you control 2 or more artifacts, ~ gets +2/+0>As long as you control 7 or more lands, ~ gets +3/+0>When ~ enters the battlefield, each opponent discards a card>Whenever you attack, target attacking equipped creature gets menace>At the beginning of combat on your turn, target creature gets +2/+0 until EOT>At the end of combat on your turn, if you dealt 6 or more combat damage, transform ~.>Whenever another creature or artifact you control dies, put a +1/+1 counter on ~.>Draw 2 cards then put a +1/+1 counter on up to 1 target creature.>Target creature gets +3/+3 and gains trample until end of turn.>When ~ enters the battlefield, mill 3 and gain 3 life.None of these are evocative or flavorful in any way, especially when you attack them to the characters or events they are supposed to represent.>>98372282You are a colossal retard and should not be playing Magic if you think that 'flavor' begins and ends with art. A card being mechanically consistent with the character it is evoking is a huge part of flavor and the entire point that I am making.
>>98373876>How is it that Pestilence and Pyrohemia can be the same exact card, yet one goes for less than a dollar and the other is at least 10?Supply and Demand.
>John Planeswalker+1 draw a card- 1 make a guy- 2 destroy thing- 6 win the game
>>98373894It's HIM.
>>98372495 The cards that I think actually work as top down designs are:>Aerith Rescue Mission (the named modes are stupid but the use of three creatures helps signpost the flavor in a way that it would work without them)>Battle Menu (should change the Attack and Magic modes but it's a fine concept)>Phoenix Down>Ultima>Edgar, King of Figaro>Sleep Magic>Travel the Overworld (Card draw is iffy but 'affinity for towns' being linked to world map is great)>Overkill (most flavorful card in the set)>Tonberry>Blazing Bomb>Ancient Adamantoise>Absolute Virtue.>Yuna, Hope of Spira (tenuous)Granted that's more than the 'single digit' claim I made earlier but it's still only about 5% of the set. The majority of the flavor has very little to do with the characters or events being depicted. Explain to me why Tidus is a disruptive character that cares about artifacts rather than a supportive bard type as he is in game. Explain why Tellah makes tokens or why Garland surveils on noncreature spells. For that matter, explain why Chaos is a 5/5 french vanilla. Why is Sephiroth an aristocrat card? Why does haste magic give a P/T boost? Why does ice magic bounce/tuck a creature? Why does Job Select, a mechanic from FFXIV show up on cards with art credited to FF1?I don't doubt that the limited environment was fine and I will continue to acknowledge that Square prevented WotC from blackwashing Cloud and turning Cecil gay, but that does not mean that the flavor with characters and their mechanics were good.Summoning as saga creatures is a good decision but a good number of the summons have abilities that are not very good representations of what the summons do. G.F. Ifrit letting you loot for example. Anima is also extremely underwhelming and card draw is not flavorful with it. Shiva is often touted as a great design but ice magic in FF is not tapping stuff and there's no reason that Diamond Dust should be a beneficial effect for you rather than harmful to your opponent.
>>98373931Ah I should also mention that summoning in FFVII was 'just' a fancy attack. I know in FFX summons stick around for a while and, I suspect, it works similarly for the later games as well. Unless WotC was going for the Remake (of which there is nothing to suggest that they are), the saga creature for summons doesn't really work for VII summons but I am willing to forgive that in the interest of mechanical cohesion with summon cards from the games where it does work that way.
>>98370658based>>98370903we can only hope
>>98373894And all at the terrifying mana cost of one generic mana
>>98373901>if you want to play golgari you HAVE to play him also he's black: the card
>>98370989I hope we get a shark typhoon reprint between this and kamigawa. I miss that card
>>98373879>Whenever ~ attacks, other attacking creatures gain indestructible until end of turnEither Cecil Harvey or Aerith.>When ~ enters the battlefield, search your library for an equipment, reveal it and put it into your hand then shuffle your library.>As long as ~ is equipped, if an ability of ~ or an equipment triggers, it triggers an additional time.Gilgamesh>Flying>As long as you control 2 or more artifacts, ~ gets +2/+0Cid or LightningAs long as you control 7 or more lands, ~ gets +3/+0Tidus or Zidane.When ~ enters the battlefield, each opponent discards a cardKefka or Ardyn.>Whenever you attack, target attacking equipped creature gets menaceSephiroth >At the beginning of combat on your turn, target creature gets +2/+0 until EOT>At the end of combat on your turn, if you dealt 6 or more combat damage, transform ~.Kefka or Kuja>Whenever another creature or artifact you control dies, put a +1/+1 counter on ~.Kefka or President Shinra>Draw 2 cards then put a +1/+1 counter on up to 1 target creature.Ignis Scientia>Target creature gets +3/+3 and gains trample until end of turn.Sazh or Riku>When ~ enters the battlefield, mill 3 and gain 3 life.Cloud or Squall
WHY DOES EVERY FUCKING RED CREATURE HAVE 50 FUCKING TOUGHNESS NOW
>>98374163
>>98374162You got bamboozled, most of them are generic monsters.
>>98374163AND BLUE CREATURES TOO
My wife is a commoner but that's just fine. She is perfect the way she is. Wouldn't want her any other way.
It's crazy that mono red now hard counters dedicated life gain decks instead of the other way around.How are the designers of this game SO incompetent?
>>98374255Gotta make Mono Red viable in Commander :)
They really have just ruined every format to the point where the game is basically unplayable in all versions, huh?
>>98374279well it's still not tho unless you are comboing so maybe they need to tune aggro up a bit more?
>>98374337nah you can just play premodern
Reminder that even in nuZhalfir where every color has niggers in the art, mono White is STILL going to suck the most as usual, proving that even niggered artwork is not a direct correlation to power level. Kikes simply hate White
based schizo ritualposter
>>98374431Went to brew a mono-white Pioneer deck off this spoiler and was shocked by just how few options for anything white has in the format ho-ly fuck.
>>98374177>The heckin generic creatures have generic abilities oh NOOOOOOOI don't know why I come here sometimes. You people are retarded.
>>98374431>dies to everything and won’t win games like every standard white card Also casual reminder that the original Confidant is standard legal and sees no play. Try again, kike.
>>98374431Even if this said “reveal the top card at your end step and add it to your hand and your opponent GAINS life equal to the CMC of the card” it would still be slow as shit and die to every mono green landfall deck and UR deck.Kikes, hate, White.
>>98374529>Kikes, hate, White.Why?
>>98374431>does nothing for two (2) whole turns>can almost never attack with it making the lifelink useless>dies to a moist fart>Time Walk yourself for 2 mana>literally worse than Grizzly Bears
>>98374537White mana = white pepo, for whatever reason.They hate white people because they see us as the inheritors of Rome. And a full half of modern Judaism is about having a blood feud with Rome.
Oh I thought you meant like white mana.
>>98374603That's what he means. It's just that white mana is seen as an occult substitute for white people.You should be able to solve this.
>>98374615Well then it doesn't make sense, because white cards are rather strong.
>>98374592Yeah, but you see the color of creature-conditional card draw NEEDED to be Green because it just did okay?
>>98374337PlayStandard
>white has better removal than black>wrath of god is finally out of standard>they just remake it anywayWhite has boardwipes starting from 4 and instant speed removal for until then. What the fuck is this guy talking about? White is strong as shit. Its green that cant do shit except play Badgermole Cub, and blue and red cant do anything but jerk each other off. Only black and white are allowed to have more than four playable cards in standard.
>>98374592Technically it can draw you a land if you drop rabbit channeler or birb on t1Which isn't much, but it's somethingCan't think of anything you could realistically do on t3 to guarantee actually good draws
>>98374715You don't need to gain life for it to be able to draw lands of the topIt will always be able to draw lands you surveil because lands are MV 0, so if you gained 0 life it'd be of equal mv
>>98373879>You are a colossal retard and should not be playing Magic if you think that 'flavor' begins and ends with art.And you're a colossal retard if you don't think its the biggest deciding factor.Additionally, I specifically gave you a card that is "mechanically consistent" that also factors in multiple other cards within the set that are mechanically consistent with the characters they are evoking.
>>98374737>if you gained life this turn, surveil 1
>>98374737Oh I know that all too well, but you're still wrong"IF you gained life, surveil."It doesn't activate unless you actually gained life
how the fuck is Annex still Pioneer legal?
>>98374872ever since sorin got banned, 3 mana cards in pioneer have protection from bans, see fable and screaming nemesis for more examples
how'd the pro tour go? limited for the top 8 was a retarded idea
>>98372300>>98372317>My main contribution to this contemporary re-imagining of the Lord of the Rings was to consistently push for a diverse Middle-Earth setting that stayed true to the Tolkien text.Muh capitalism has always been leftypol cope. The bugmen who staff WotC believe in this shit with all their heart.
>>98375052Does this person even still work at WotC?
>>98375088>Does this person even still work at WotC?Likely not. WotC's staff turnover rate is ~11 months.
>>98375088No.
Whose dick was it?
>>98375126Marit Lage.
>>98375126Ugin's
>>98375139jej
>>98375138more like Marit Large waheyyyy
>>98375145HEYOOOOOOOO!
watched a few episodes of star trek. its okay, but i have no idea why the suits thought it would translate to a magic set.
>>98375154>but i have no idea why the suits thought it would translate to a magic set.MMMMONEYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>98375154Star Trek had a card game for a long time.
>>98375163So did Final Fantasy
>>98375174Yeah well that means it can be easily translated for Magic mechanics.
>>98375088What's the purpose of this question?
>>98375176final fantasy is almost entirely action based. there's been like 4 minutes of action in the 5 episodes of star trek that i've seen.
>>98375174FF is still going actually.It seems like it would be pretty fun, and the card quality is nice with some great art if you're a fan. Problem is, I have no one to try it out with.
>>98375154Adventurous humans traveling to strange new lands with their wise, pointy eared allies, battling against strong war loving savages, and encountering rogue gods they have to defeat by outwitting them. Nope, can't see any connection to a fantasy series whatsoever.
>>98375272Okay, now what about the parts the make it explicitly star trek? How do those fit?
>>98375154It's just millenial/gen x nostalgia bait. The average age of an mtg player is over 30. That drag queen guy made it his pet project because he's a huge trekkie.
>>98375284Its doesnt need to these are joke sets to draw new players while also letting them make whacky card ideas with meme pictures.
>>98374756He's just being a contrarian retard. FF was a great set. They intentionally put a lot of effort to make it that way so people wouldn't chuck too much of a hissy fit over UB becoming standard legal. Unlike garbage they clearly churned out like Spiderman and TMNT.
>>98375341So it doesn't fit?
>>98374687>White literally hasn’t had a tier one RC or pro tour deck in 10 years>Oy vey goyim White is le heckarino strongest!Your gaslighting kikery never works on me shekel-sucker
>>98375211This is ultimately my issue with the Star Trek UB set - yes, there is conflict / combat / battles / wars in the setting but those are always simply the backdrops for the actual focused stories between the characters who are present - not the main attraction. You can claim DS9 is the "war show" but the war is nothing but a backdrop for Sisko et al to be in. That, and the whole actual focus on science, not magic. That old chestnut.
>>98375126>Whose dick was it?Looks like Armada Wurm a bit.
>Testing some meme decks>Find something that actually worksthis shit is hilarious
>>98375466idk about the first two but Serra Paragon is unrionically one of the best mono white 4-drops in Pioneer, I think only Beza is better and that's because it's an amazing sideboard card
>>98375511>idk about the first two but Serra Paragon is unrionically one of the best mono white 4-drops in Pioneer, I think only Beza is better and that's because it's an amazing sideboard cardParagon + the previous two is the shit man, doubles the fun plus early lifelinkers help keep away aggro.
Fetchlands cost so much because they're the #1 way people stack their deck for free. Every cheater getting caught starts with cracking a fetch to fake shuffle their deck.
>>98375540kek just let a video about a guy doing just that for years at tournaments finally getting caught (and it being realized it happened for years by people watching videos of old games of his)
>>98375154I think it was force on them in order to get Avatar
>>98375511oh shush, you will wake the schizo
>great art>enters>this creature>nonstandard frame
What?
Anyways, here's the test list. Mono-white because Sunspine Lynx makes playing anything other than monocolor complete suicide.Metropolis Reformer is a shockingly impenetrable answer to mono-red, but I haven't included it here. Maybe good for the sideboard, which I've yet to figure out. With some initial tests, it can go grind-for-grind BG midrange (Depending on how each deck draws) and handle aggro reasonably well. Suggestions would be cool.
>>98375603What the fuck am I reading?
>>98375638Lord of the Rings.
>>98375563probably the opposite
>>98375632how often do you get raped by screaming nemesis?
>>98374687>Only black and white are allowed to have more than four playable cards in standard.black is completely unviable. its only presence in the meta is to be the 4th color in jeskai control so it can run an uncounterable instant speed exile spell
>>98375566Jokes on you kike, I’m always watching. And no amount of meme decks can ever equate to actual results.
>>98375466is this just an orzhov reanimator deck or am I too stupid to see some combo involving these 3 cards
>>98375747>>98375747>>98375747
>>98375438Dumb fuck, Badgermole Cub dodging bans doesn't mean Green as a color is strong, it means green players are forced to play it. Same with the same six Izzet spells. Its boring as fuck for those players.
>>98373027They could've easily done exactly that, there was never anything they previously wrote restricting that from working.
>>98372232You're like 10 years too late to be giving a fuck about novel mechanics fitting with lore dude. Everything has already been done.
>>98375184He wants to get laid, crazy women like that are always desperate to take anyone they can get.
98374431Based cuckhold
