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Blaster from the Paster edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>98370091

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/

>4e Books
gofile.io/d/JXpc9g

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread Question:
Now that Cogforts are real, was this guy close enough
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>>98379652
He really was. You could honestly convert the actual fort into something damn close to that with a sheet or two of plasticard and a knife.
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Why did the cogforts flop? I haven’t seen a single one irl still outside the GW store display case. You’d think by the reception online they would be everywhere.
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>>98379652
>TQ
Pretty darn close. Its just missing the flamer and dismounting bridge. I do wanna see them try a wizard cogfort now.
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>>98379652
Yes but the scale seems off by a lot. I wonder how big it is compared to what we've got
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>>98379694
Nice
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>>98379658
Probably explains why they made random videos instead of running their shop then
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>>98379142

Ayyeee nice. Even if I don't approve of the new models I'm glad they are keeping things that make up the culture of ogors
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>>98379652
he also made some totally not just Nagash and Shyish terrain
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I'm looking for a book with Khemri.
Is The Rise of Nagash good?
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>>98379989
you're better off reading the bible.
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>>98379996
That answer was not helpful.
Do you have some details or an alternative.
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>>98380076
ask chat gpt.
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>>98380098
Thanks for nothing, bitch.
Why use a general to help a noob, when you can just jerk it to the same old stale memes.
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>>98380139
lurk moar.
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>>98380185
Yes, I'm completely new.
spoonfeed me!
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>>98380225
Ngmi. Try Reddit.
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>>98379670
I thought they were very cool- I went to the store to buy one. It was over $200. I laughed out loud.
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how do you decide which elves to pick
I'm probably never going to play a gw game because of the financial barrier to entry, but I like thinking about it, and trying to choose between the elf factions is really tough because they all feel compelling and look cool
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>>98379989
Yeh.
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>>98379670
GW prices have never been good but i've noticed since february all the new releases have been less quality less value more price it's pretty ridiculous.

Like Kill Team Tomb World last year had 150 dolalrs of terrain, two kill teams (actually 3 when you consider it had 10 deathwatch guys, though the separate release box is only 5) and 10 bonus necron warriors as an npo. Plus the extras like carss and book. That's liek 400 dollars of value, sold at 250, sold at 212 off msrp. Wow. Great deal. Should have boughted?

But then we get to Kill Team Exodite. What's that? One Kill Team (only 3 exodites) instead of the 6 that would be needed to build all loadouts like the tomb world box. No ork kill team, just random snaggas no one wants. No jungle terrain, but the book apparently has instructions how to make it? Couldn't even throw in a few plastic trees and an eldar waystone. What's the value? Maybe 200 bucks, for a retail of 165, off MSRP would be 145? Not really a good deal.

Keep in mind red terror had the Red Terror npo. Murderwing didn't have a nightbringer npo but it had that extra lord and was cheaper and had two kill teams. Dead Silence was only 100 bucks at 3rd parties and had two kill teams.

All their shit is like this lately where the prices are going up but the value is down.
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>>98380139
>>98380225
Actual answer: he is hostile because this is the Age of Sigmar general and even though most people here have models from all the warhammer ranges, we are obligated to hate on warhammer fantasy like they're our sports team rivals.

You want to go over to the The Old World/warhammer fantasy general to ask them about Khemri, because Khemri/Tomb Kings are a ToW faction that is tangentially related to the Age of Sigmar boney boy factions like Ossiarchs, but not directly.
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>>98380542
if you're not buying anything you can larp as all of them.
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Kurnothi fucking WHEN
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Are there any good AoS battle report channels? Rerolling Ones was good when it was still alive. Season of War is insufferable and they feel like tourney fanatics. Battleshock is very hit or miss.
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>>98380747
I've watched hobby collab off and on.
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Does anybody know how i could replicate the colors on the horns of the maulbeasts in this image? I want to do the same for mine.
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>>98380690
why are you so insistent on this subfaction that's just woodelves with centaurs
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>>98380757
Looks like a pretty standard grey to black transition. You would start with painting the whole horns grey and then gradually darken towards the tips, using either a contrast paint or shade mostly likely, blended at the midpoint of the horn.
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Waiting until I am a millionaire before I start commissioning some DoK art, still a couple of years away, but am collating ideas.
All Morathichads give me ideas for me to record and then commission.
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>>98379694
spoopcorn
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>>98380593
but I need to choose one in my head to be THE one
maybe idoneth bc daddy issues
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>>98380542
DoK for me.
1. Played Druchii in WHFB
2. Love Femdom

If you're not going to play full AoS, you can always play Warcry. Much less of a financial burden or paint burden
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>>98381463
Be a special boy and join the kurnothi gang.
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>>98381478

Is there more than one DoK player who's a femdom enthusiast, or is it just one guy?
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>>98381582
More than one. Know there's at least 3 of us as have come in and seen convos between other Anons discussing it
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>>98381618

To each his own, there are worse fetishes out there.
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Preordered this because ogres are my favorite. I don’t actually and have never played AoS though. Where can I learn more about how the game plays so I can decide whether or not to keep the pre order.

I’m a TOWchud so basically I’m looking for the nitty gritty on gameplay to see if I’ll enjoy it as much as Fantasy. I have just under two weeks to decide before the cancellation window expires but it was a good deal so I thought I would give AoS a chance.
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>>98381772
Fairly sure this box has Spearhead rules so i'd try that out. That way you'll be able to play without buying anything else and the general rules are close enough
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>>98381772

Cześć, the rules are available on wahapedia. I find them to be less clunky than tow, but they also lack the customisability that tow has.
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>>98381772
i thought aos was supposed to send any polish person into an uncontrollable tard rage
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>>98381916
Im listening to a lore video on them right now and ill be honest im not really liking what im hearing so far. Maybe it is because I am Polish. But I find the focus on named characters quite boring relative to fleshing out their culture and history.
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>>98381772
>>98381786
>>98381794
Yeah I watched a game and listened to the lore and I don’t think this is for me, ended up refunding the order. Thank you all sincerely for the help and enjoy!
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Why is Nagash and Kragnos in every Death/Destruction book, but Archaon isn't in every Chaos book? Wasn't he supposed to be a universal warmaster at one point?
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>>98382008
Its really more of a every faction should join him rather than the other way around.
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Can GW show the macrusher already?
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>>98382108
They don’t have a reason to show it off because the giant witch hasn’t been leaked either.
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>>98379886
That's actually pretty kino
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>>98382008
because he doesn't fit visually in the other chaos armies, whole kragnos doesn't fit in any army, and nagash has precedents to be in all death armies
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>>98381772
Wouldn't you just be able to use these guys in tow anyway?
I guess the unit sizes are off for that actually
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Khadrons should get gundams.
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>>98382186
Khazalids might be getting golems, which is kind of close
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>>98382113
>the giant witch
I hope there's the option for a tiny human sized witch hat
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>>98382186
no
they should get either a huge battleship or aircraft carrier, or a flying ship whose silhouette resembles a blimp or a submarine

they're not the faction for giant things other than giant ships, if you want them to have robots they can't be larger than an ogre and should be transportable like any other of their troops, not fly on their own
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>>98380139
Sis, this is AoS General
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>>98382226
I could see them having some sort of heavy duty extractor suit but yeah, they're the ship army and they should focus on that. An aircraft carrier would be pretty cool, it could launch drones like the endrin dock or something
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>>98382226
Doesn’t have to be one or the other. A specialized ship for transporting them could be cool.
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>>98382259
>Doesn’t have to be one or the other.
yes, it does
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>>98382226
>if you want them to have robots they can't be larger than an ogre and should be transportable like any other of their troops, not fly on their own
That can be arranged
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>>98382290
I like the drill one, it reminds me of the Big Daddies from Bioshock
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>>98381916
He might be a filthy warszawiak, not a real polishman, hence the interest in aos
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>>98382108
Must be soon if someone has the sprue?
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>>98382310
>t. Krakus
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>>98382113
>giant witch
Don't give me hope
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>>98382310
Im not a W*rszawiak and I would strike you in person for even suggesting the possibility.

>>98382357
I’m surprised you „ people „ have internet access
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>>98382357
Twoja stara
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>>98382310
>>98382357

What if he's actually from Sosnowiec?
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>>98382421
then he deserves our pity since his life is in shambles already
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>>98382421
Sosnowiec doesn't have Internet access. Not after the incident
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>>98382426
They do, they just steal Internet from Będzin with buckets
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>>98382441
kek
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I ended up starting slaanesh as an army to use across all game systems just to realize chariots, my favorite unit, were discontinued. Does anyone have some good advice on how to make them? I was thinking of using extra fiend, spawn, or whatever animal bits I have pulling regular chaos chariots.

I also wanted to ask what manifestation lore works best with a slaanesh daemon focused army. Their playstyle looks like it could really use extra durability, rend, and movement control options so it is a tossup for me. Th cogfort regiment of renown seems neat as well, but I don't know If I want to spend the money for a regiment that might go away, especially if I take the time to chaos it up.
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>>98382456
>chariots were discontinued
Wait, realy? Haven't noticed that.
I think the kitbash idea sounds good if you want a standard chariot
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>>98382456
I mean surely you can find some on ebay
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>>98382468
Syll'Eggske?
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heres the AoS game happening at my LGS right now

rate it out of 10
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>>98382493
Equator/10
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>>98382468
>>98382473
True. It would mainly be for the old world, but I guess 40k and aos don't allow them right now.

I am still torn over the cogfort and what manifestation lore. Primal would be a good damage dealer, but those slaanesh basic ones really seem to combo well with certain abilities.
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>>98382493
oh shit my bad
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>>98382499
nice chamon board
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>>98382493
>40k terrain
>not a single fully painted miniature
Seeing as it's skaven vs stormies it's probably baby's first aos game, so they get a pass once but otherwise this is quite grim.
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>>98382499
Odd mixture of some very old models and new unpainted stuff. I'm guessing freshly returning player?
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>>98382514
Tail of something, but i have no idea what
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>>98380542
>boob elves
>fish elves
>elf elves
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>>98382514
I would say yeti already
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>>98382509
these two players have been playing for years

>>98382512
no, both have been continuous player since 3rd, the painted models are ones bought 2nd hand
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>>98382514
A new stonehorn, surely.
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>>98382528
What bodypart of a yeti would it be?
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>>98382529
Oof. You can buy them some paints then
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>>98382538
they each own several 40k armies with no paint on them at all
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>>98382499

This is nearly as bad as some TOW games I've seen over at /wfg/.
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>>98382514
Some 40k maybe Necromunda creature
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>>98382536
the pinky finger, duh!
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>>98382514
Furry tyranid.
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>>98382541
Extremely grim
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>>98382514
Dark Elves for real this time for Old World
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>>98382654
Is that meant to be a manticore?
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>>98382499
At least they’re playing a game. Thats more than I’ve done
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>>98382682

That's the 6th edition dark elf beastmaster riding a manticore.
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I'm mad that GW never bothered to show off any other Curslings. The concept of random warrior dude + random tzeetnch demon (in familar form) opens up endless possibilites
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>>98379670
>The kit that went out of stock in NA and the UK flopped
What do words even mean at this point
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>>98382534
Yeah, I can't imagine what else it could be save something alien from 40k
Skaven have warpstone but different tails
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>>98382585
I miss the Braggoth battalion tbhon
At least there's mercenary maw Gruntas which is a nice evolution I guess
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>>98382534
>>98382883
if it is a new stonehorn, they'll be going with a pretty different design as the current one is rather weirdly sharp and scourge-like, not "rocky" at all like this one is. Look it up, you'll see what I mean
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We need more Tzeentch Warriors/Knights/Chosen.
I have like 10 more of these but fuck the captcha.
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>>98382973
Curveball for Tzeetnch chosen: We remember Argentine exists and servs Tzeentch.
As Draconeth resurge on Sigmar's side he begins to pervert Tzeetnch fallowers into his own dragon-kin (because he's not as strong as Dracothion and can't just make dragons out of nothing)
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>>98382973
I really like this for tzeentch warrior equivalents like rotswords are for nurgle. Especially the dude on the left and his sick ass wizard cape. All of gallagher's weapon designs would look good for tzeentch too, especially the sword and shield in your pic. I also like his bird-styled helmets, again especially the one inbetween the two guys in your pic
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What armies are yet to get their 4th ed BT?
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>>98382973
>>98383042
>>98383053
I think they should bring Forsaken as a Tzeentch-specific unit. Maybe make it a dual kit with some Chosen à la Twinsouls/Painbringers.
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>>98383198
Lizards, gargants, fyreslayers
Lizards are getting a pity hero (skink wizard on coatl)
Gargants are getting a relatively sizeable release wave; new mancrushers and a female gargant kit (which comes with some monsters apparently)
Fyreslayers will be getting a major release wave as they're getting souped with new dispossessed into a new khazalid holds tome
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>>98383214
>new khazalid holds tome
I just wish they keep the Fire theme for the whole faction.
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>>98382176
The min size of a tOW ogre unit is three. The only issue you have is that you will want a banner, but you can just find old ogre banners on bits sellers and convert them.
There are also plenty of files for 40mm round to 40mm square trays, so you can easily use them on rounds in tOW. Ogres is probably the easiest army to play in both systems, besides VC or maybe Skaven.
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>>98382493
> Unpainted models
> Unpainted terrain
> It's also 40k terrain
> Cuck circles
1/10 because I can't give a zero
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>>98383221
We don't know much about the khazalid release, honestly. For all other major releases this edition we basically had a full list of new units since boole entered the scene, even if we weren't 100% sure on the exact aesthetics yet.
Khazalids we genuinely have no idea what's coming, or what they'll look like, except that they're classically dwarfy. They might incorporate some of the fyrelayer design elements, like scales and shit, but we're mostly just guessing.
We do know that the fyreslayer wing of the army is getting another droth though
>>98383238
Each glutton champion in the aos box had a back banner thing, so you'll have two of those to start with at least.
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>>98383318
>Khazalids we genuinely have no idea what's coming, or what they'll look like, except that they're classically dwarfy.
They'll be classically dwarfy but also have inexplicably have Californian demographic skin tones all over the place.
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>>98383318
I'm glad we don't know anything about them, it's nice having a mystery to speculate about
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>>98383244
Not the worst, and it's hard for me to judge someone for grey models if they're actually playing. It's a weird space to be in, if you're doing grey or like just using empty bases for comp shit you can go straight to hell, if you're new to your army and trying them out I ain't gonna judge someone.

I have too many models and not enough time to paint, so I run grey shit frequently, but I always have my centerpieces and heroes painted (unless i'm trying a new hero, fucking Felgryn I've had for months and he remains untouched)
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You guys said yesterday Lords of War are always doing negative clickbait, yet today I see this. So what’s the deal? Is it a matter of even the haters can’t deny success at this level?
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Buy an ad
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>>98383519
irrelevant.
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Can the next edition come out so I can get some actual fucking updates to my armys that got early on books?
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>>98383519
You're not even trying at this point >>98383537
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>>98383544
It came out 2 hours ago and has almost 2k views. I will bet you this video does better numbers than your average AoS batrep
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>98383519
I know this is bait and I'm falling for it but you can see the big red arrow pointing down right? It *is* negative clickbait. That's the whole thing, no matter what happens they will spin it negatively.
>box doesn't sell out? Flop.
>box sells out? Debacle.
It's their mo
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>>98383628
I literally have no idea who these fucking shmoes are.
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>>98383639
They are one of North Americas largest and most respected third party retailers.
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>>98383647
Nah
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>>98383639
Hobby store in canada, they have a youtube channel which is just negative clickbait, seriously check out their thumbnails
>will this KILL the old world??
>can AoS SURVIVE this??
>this is a BIG PROBLEM for 40k!
>horus heresy HANGING ON by a thread!!
>...
the only reason I know of them is because retards here like to spam them.
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>>98383671
Ah that makes much more sense.
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>>98383366
But there is not much base to speculate on. We just know that they might add "more traditional dwarfs" but there are few less traditional dwarfs than FS
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>>98383698
>Karazai
Quality
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>>98383339
>inexplicably
In this case it would be quite explicable since the dispossessed are exactly that, a diaspora of dwarfs from all over the realms.
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>>98383729
The thing is dwarfs were never a blend of human skin tones. They were white until DEI policies hit GW. But I expect you will use the same excuse when they eventually give us black aelves.
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>>98383738
Go back anon
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>>98383738
From a meta perspective, sure, but within the context of the universe it makes perfect sense. Fyreslayers specifically should be more monoracial (which one that is would depend from hold to hold) though it is not unheard of for multiple lodges to share a hold, though it is apparently quite rare. Vostargi mont being such a case.
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>>98383738
Grombrindal was literally black in 3rd edition Fantasy.
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>>98383339
>inexplicably
Just like how human genetics gave the DoK dark and black skin as well as blonde, red, and brown hair, many a dwarven maiden learned the meaning of bridal carry.
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>>98383785
>doubt
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>>98383795
according to gw, humans and elves/aelves/aeldari aren't interfertile
neither are duardin/dwarfs
for Votann, I'm not sure but they should logically be unable to crossbreed mine their fantasy/aos counterparts
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>>98383763
his opinion is a legitimate one
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>>98383811
>humans and elves/aelves/aeldari aren't interfertile
This is bullshit given that half elves have been canon since 2nd edition.
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>>98383796
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>>98383816
Problem is being under the assumption it's DEI and not just GW trying to pander
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>>98383785
I can’t wait for you to link the white dwarf magazine cover that literally predates the existence of Warhammer as proof
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>>98383811
Votann are vat babies so I think they're infertile.
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>>98383824
>>98383830
LMAO. I mean you like the setting, why even try to deceive. DEI policies changed the setting, it is what it is. I’m not saying AoS has to be rejected but this kind of dishonest cope is sad.
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>>98383816
"Dwarfs weren't black in whfb so it makes no sense for them to be in aos" isn't really a legitimate position for reasons already explained above.
"Dwarfs are now painted in a blend of human skintones when they weren't before because gw wants to appear more progressive" is, but that is not what he was originally bitching about (and has been discussed to death on this general and board before)
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>>98383830
'87
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>>98382310
>>98382393
What's wrong with people from Warsaw ?
Is it the usual stereotype that people in every european country have, according to which the national capital is full of haughty, progressive-minded and cosmopolitan types ?
>t. french
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>>98383836
I just don't understand why people give a shit, you could paint them with neon green skin it's not like GW puts a gun to your head and says "BETTER PAINT THESE DWARVES BLACK GUVNA OR ELSE I'LL STAB YE"
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>>98383854
You just activated his trap card. He’s gonna go on some chuddite rant about traditional European cultures and aesthetics not fitting them right or some bullshit.
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>>98383835
NOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT!
IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE.. IT JUST IS!
NOOOOO MY AYRAN ANGLO ANCESTORS DIED FOR THIS: ME, A MEXICAN, HAVING TO PLAY WARHAMMER WITH FEMALE MINIATURES
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>>98383854
I think people have an issue with it because it means real world political ideology influences a setting. Which inherently degrades the artistic value and integrity of said setting. Maybe not to a massive degree, but I dont think anyone would argue that if the dwarfs were kept just white it would have a negative impact on the setting.
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>>98383864
nailed it anon
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>>98383647
They are a tiny lgs whose most sold item is dice
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>>98383859
Mother fucker probably dips his minis in a vat of nuln oil and calls it a day, it makes so little of a difference in the grand scheme of things because it's not like a black dwarf is gonna sound any different from a white dwarf. It's literally just done because either "Hey look you can do other skin tones!" or "Hey look just because we're British doesn't mean we're racist! Please stop associating Warhammer with being racist!" as they try to push away the 3rd lanky nerd walking in with 2 funny lightning bolts on his shirt and his custom Black Templar army.

>>98383864
I think the problem is I don't even think GW particularly treats its properties as seriously as the people playing them. Political influence of just having some different face sculpts I can just ignore doesn't really fuck with anything for me, it's always been the case of "oh okay I just won't use it." or "Oh that looks lame, I'll just kitbash it" or the end all be all "Oh that looks lame, I won't buy it."
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>>98383785
no, he wasn't, he was dirty
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>>98383883
I'm so glad my local shops don't suck. I got a fuckoff massive one right next door and then the old FFG headquarters just down the road.
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>>98383846
Yes, pretty normal stuff
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>>98383883
Cute
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>>98383628
We have a very large warhammer community in the Toronto area, where these guys are.
Not one person I know into this hobby uses or likes this store.
Stores in 15 minutes in either direction have large healthy communities, however.
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>>98383647
It's a hole in the wall store. They don't hold real events because they have no parking available.
Limited stock and bad prices.
Nobody in the area ever recommends it. You'd be better off starting your warhammer journey in a real GW store.
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>>98383846
Yes, but also most of warsawfags tend to act like pompous cunts. I've met turks that are kind, indians that care about their hygiene, even a generous jew, but never in my life have I met a nice warszawiak
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>>98383883
These are the guys telling you "we didn't sell all our copies of Dominion. AoS is dead!" or "GW are determined to kill LGS like us by not giving out enough FOMO copies!"
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>>98383949
Business rates killed all my LGS' (UK). We have one warhammer store remaining and it's so tiny I think they only stay afloat from throughput. It's in the heart of the city so ideal shopping or chore stop with cafes next door.
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>>98383998
Basically this.
Plus they are the kind of place to hold pride events.
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>>98384015
Somehow there's like 10 million shops near me or just in the general orbit of the twin cities. I didn't realize until I went out with some friends who were trying to find cheap pokemon cards so we hit up literally every hole in the wall nerd shop in a 10 mile radius.

I think my favorite one was the half card shop, half bait and tackle supply shop.
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>>98384024
sounds fun
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>>98383998
>dominion
The more I analyze that box the less appealing it looks. The lgs near me still has a copy, that's like 35% off so it ends up being close to a spearhead in price and I still don't want to pick it up. What the fuck were they thinking with the 20 hobgrots.
Warhammer (of all flavours) is completely non-existent in this area (the same store also still sells whfb-branded shit for example) so it's not likely someone will pick it up anytime soon, especially since you can pick up anything you would want from the box for pennies on ebay anyway. Can genuinely see this box sitting on a shelf somewhere for another decade. The place is massive, they're not lacking for space.
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>>98384032
pokemon is having an economic bubble in the US I think?
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>>98384056
if you play kruleboyz, the kruleboyz half is solid. everything in it is useful except maybe the killaboss on foot or the belcha banna, but otherwise several good characters and all the armies core infantry. you can definitely play the 20 hobgrots too and still have a decent list. they wont do anything, but having 10 wounds with 10 objective control for 70pts is a value all its own. also the full kits for gutrippaz and especially boltboyz are so expensive $$$ that they practically pay for themselves just getting a kruleboyz dominion half.

the stormcast half is mid, yndrasta is good but most of the other characters are useless, the spear troops are not very good on the table in my experience, and annihilators have been outclassed by newer units and shield annihilators were never the go to loadout for them anyways.
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>>98384107
Yeah it's still a go-to box for KB players but the SC half has only gotten more worthless with time.
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>>98384135
i'll stand by that yndrasta is legit a great model and fun on the table, but yeah you are better off just getting her on her own or in another box like a spearhead if you can.

if you really just want any stormcast and dont care about performance or some of the more interesting visual flourishes like the skaventide stormcast, then it is a decent way to get bulk models cheaply, say for the purpose of intro games or models for new painters to just practice on or something, but as a box for a potential army collector its gonna be a skip
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>>98384107
Killaboss on foot might be ok now, since he has chain attack with bonus attacks
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>>98384056
I mean, I'd say the cool to lame ratio is fucked because spear stormcast are bland, hobgrots are bland and those 2 are the main contents of the box. I think the Kruleboyz heroes are all fantastic except the foot killboss who's eh (his grot buddy with the shiv, fantastic. If all hob grots had that armor I'd love them)

Both the "centerpieces" mounted guy and Yndrastra I think are fucking fantastic even if I hate the stupid sidecut. Stormcast wizard is eh, I don't even know what the lord imperetant does and stormcast didn't need another 1 note foot hero that doesn't cast or pray. The shield guys are neat but the 2h hammer version is way cooler, and the halberd guys are a solid little bodyguard unit but the monopose kills ever wanting to get a reinforced one. My main gripe for KB (other than hob grots suck) is that I like the version of gutrippaz without spears.

I think it's fine as a box, but probably the roughest starting box unless you really like KB, I think for stormcast it's very fucking bland and Yndastra herself isn't quite good enough to make up for the rest of what she's with being "eh".
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>>98384148
is that a new warscroll? i havent looked at him in a while
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>>98384149
>hating hobgrots
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>>98384149
Gutrippaz from standalone box are way better so I would push them down but this box is a great start for KB
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>>98384149
oh you know what, actually i forgot the praetors are in the stormcast box. those guys are actually very good.

not enough to get me to buy the whole dominion half but its a little better than i remember. the thing that kills it for me is that vindictors are just such a wet fart of a unit. if those had been vanquishors instead it would have been a much better box
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>>98384165
It's weird, conceptually I don't hate them I just really don't dig that they clash with the look of KB so much and there's not much support with them. I'd say I like them with more clothes on but I don't really much care for the chorf version either.

If they were the new wave to gitz, wolf gitz and hob grots as like weird technical explodey freaks that made the catapults I think I'd have gelled with that more.

>>98384172
Oh 200%, you get the banner, the hand weapons are way cooler, you get an instrument guy!

>>98384177
oh 200% but GW seems to have this thing where I don't think they want to give you "the best units" in a starting box. I don't know how much of this is just my imagination but I feel like they deliberately gimp things rulewise from these boxes or squat them sooner because they want to make sure you buy other shit instead.

It's why shit like the rattling warpblaster is mediocre as hell, and that stupid Ork.. walker... mek thing in the 40k new box is seemingly just redundant.
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>>98384186
I can't believe GW expects me to pay $65 for a simple chaff unit
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>>98384161
https://wahapedia.ru/aos4/factions/kruleboyz/Scourge-of-Aqshy-Killaboss-with-Stab-grot
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>>98384149
Shoulda put some trolls or maybe the sloggoth in there instead of 10 of the hobgrots.
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>>98384224
Hobgorts are packaged 20 per box, it's 1 kit
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>>98384234
I would have traded 20 of the hob grotz for a sloggoth desu
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>>98384234
I know, but they're actually 2 identical sets of the same 3 sprues. Could've just left one behind for the box. Their base unit size is 10 anyway.
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>>98383720
As long as we get the 2nd edition longbeards back where they complain so hard it has real tangible effects on the battlefield I'll be happy
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>>98384260
they're identical but they come with a second pose for every guy, so you do actually get more or less 20 unique poses out of them
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>>98384359
There is actually 21 unique poses because the 2 champion options also have 1 generic version
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>>98384359
Yeah sure, but the point is they could've split the unit in two easily enough
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>>98384461
GW likes to have a horde army on one side of the starter box, see also NH and Skaven. So even if they could split it they wouldn't want to.
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>>98384359
>>98384365
Meanwhile you can get any damn pose you want out of these and they're easier to convert.
I'm not saying old night goblins are better, I am saying the design philosophy of hobbyist agency needs to be reinstated.
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dominion would've been saved if they just made the hobgrots regular grots instead
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>>98384480
But then what would I use for Sneaky Gitz in my fantasy chorfs
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>>98384490
put a little phrygian cap on the gobbos et voila
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>>98384476
They all have the exact same pose Anon
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>>98384490
>I must consoom GW!
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>>98384522
I agree with the sentiment but these look like shit thoughbeit
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>>98384529
Yeah, their giants are okay though
More cartoony than GW but I like em
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>>98384461
the fact of the matter is the team that does the rules is downstream of the team that does the "who and how many go in each box" product design guys. when the product design guys are putting together a box, they dont actually have the rules written yet, so the product design guys probably just put 20 in there because shit like grots, clanrats, zombies, etc usually come in 20s and its just the rules team that dropped the ball and made them 10 man squads instead of 20 like every other horde unit in the game for no reason at all
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>>98384522
This is funny because I actually have the archers and bolt throwers from that set ordered right now
>>98384529
I think they look alright. It's just a bad paintjob on the store pics.
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>>98384522
Does it really count as "consooming gw" when you buy the dirt cheap dollar-a-model sprues off of ebay that nobody wanted?
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>>98384476
i dont think i agree. a lot of the new units have much better poses than anything you could get out of flat joints. despite being able to move flat joint arms around, most of the time in practice squads with the old flat joint setups just end up with everyboy riding the train syndrome. if its ball joints you maybe have a different story, but ball joints also look very bad at the seams unless you have large pauldrons or something to cover the joints.

otherwise i'd take a setup like hobgrots with some multipose jigsaws because you just get better poses out of it that you cant get out of flat joint squads
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>>98384558
Listen anon, everyone knows everybody in this thread buys straight from GW on the official website or official store at full price.

Who the hell would buy second hand or discounted models.
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>>98384547
I agree but that doesn't matter at all for the contents of a box like dominion.
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>>98384565
>have much better poses than anything you could get out of flat joints
But you're never getting anything else out of them is the problem.
It's the same issue MESBG has where the poses are good but even the ones that are multipart remain monopose.
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Are liches a thing in AoS? Have they ever been mentioned?
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>>98384659
for some reason the undead are not allowed to have necromancing skeletons other than nagash and arkhan
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>>98383738
You might want to avoid reading any of the Lumineth books then, or you're in for surprise. Children of Teclis, for example has a black elf as the protagonist.
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>>98384759
Disgusting, I can't believe they'd lower themselves to have an elf as the protagonist
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>>98384767
Alright, you got me anon. That was pretty good.
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>>98384601
okay but you never get anything interesting out of flat joints either

flat joint poses are the equivalent of cheap dollar store action figures. their arms only move up and down, thats it. i dont know why people think this translates into some incredible degree of posing freedom
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>>98383738
>DEI policies
Is that a bad thing? If GW want diversity that's on them, no? Make your own game if you're racist
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>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE FUN POSING YOUR MINIATURES THEY'RE NOT TOYS!
really?
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>>98384659
yes but rare, also not all of them belong to the death factions

but there's nothing in setting from stopping you making your own liches if thats something you want to do, nothing in setting prevents it and there is precedent, its just something they dont explore much, most of their undead commanders tend to be living mortals, vampires, or some kind of bone construct or ghost. and there are autonomous or semi autonomous skeletal leaders but they tend to be more martial military leaders than sorcerers, but again nothing preventing them from being sorcerers they just havent done it much.
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>>98384659
Festus is a Leech Lord
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>>98384805
that is not the argument at all
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>>98384885
lol that chaos idiot is about to get absolutely clobbered
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>>98384891
Nah the Terminator is about to spray the stormcast fag with his gat.
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>>98384891
You think Archaon could obliterate 40k if he showed up?
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>>98384891
lmao it really does look like that. A bolter and a hammer to the noggin.
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>>98384806
Zenestra has a spark of the Cinder God, as Krethusa has a spark of Morai-Heg. The corpse was just the last holder of it or the Cinder God herself.
Dawnbringers had this theme of new gods and their heralds. Zenestra, Krethusa, Belthanos heralding Kurnous, Brodd becoming Behemat, etc
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>>98384891
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>>98384885
It's fucking crazy that we have stock issues at all. GW are releasing too much shit for two factories
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>>98384899
The bolter is aimed at the back of the stormcasts head thobeit
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>>98384897
probably. i think archaon is a great deal more intelligent, dangerous, capable, and favoured by the gods than abaddon who is more or less just a normal guy with ties to a well connected previous employer, and look how far he's gotten. if archaon suddenly had access to warp traveling ships and modern 40k military mech i have no doubt he'd stand a great chance at actually taking on the imperium
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>>98384895
>bolter fire
>into the 2+ save annihilator with 3 health

was that a mosquito bite?
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>>98384939
Now this is where it gets stupid, do you think the magical properties of the AOS world would transfer over armor and weapons wise?
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>>98384897
That's not even realy a quatin, he is writen to be end all be all of Chaos as an ironic tragedy that he's actually anti-Chaos at heart.
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>>98384952
aos and 40k and whfb are actually all connected by the same warp, thats why a lot of the same daemon characters like kairos and skarbrand exist across them. there even used to be crossover in the waaaaaaaayback of fantasy chaos stuff getting bolters via the warp, but thats obviously been memory holed.

all of that to say that the same magic that exists in aos via chaos blessings and desecrations is just as possible in 40k, so it coul theoretically transfer over 1 to 1.
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>>98384952
Most of his boons aren't even from AoS, it's stuff he accumulated over the other conquests
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>>98384979
ACTUALLY shit, with that in mind. He's conquered like other universes too right? That was like a whole thing where between Fantasy and AOS he fucked off and became the end all be all and for whatever reason can't seem to get his shit together to beat AOS
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>>98384986
"universe" is a bit of a hyperbole there
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>>98385001
That's what I was wondering about, I can't remember if it was like "universes" or "worlds" or what the deal was
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>>98384986
He doens't realy want to beat AOS, sicne learnign about wtf Teclis did to Slaanesh and how to replicate it would be 10000 times more valuable to him than blowing up anoter planet.
Plus he curbe stomped things for centuries until everyone figured out his weakness, which is tha he lacks splash damage and while he can 1v1 anyone he will get stalled with 1v100
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>>98385001
We don't real know what the other places were. Just that he went to another reality erased it and went on to another until he had to come back to his OG because he didn't finish his 1st job properly
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>>98385013
Ohhh shit I didn't know that, so wait is he deliberately stalling and keeping shit from actually succeeding?
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>>98384891
>he's right behind me isn't he?
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>>98385004
it was all vague and questionable, the terms might have been used interchangeably at least once, but worlds would be the most accurate since we do see the worlds he's conquered which he put hanging dead over eightpoints, and they're definitely planetoids at least, probably not very big or particularly inhabited worlds on par with the old warhammer world though
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>>98385013
>he actually le hates chaos
Is there genuinely a single character introduced (or rewritten) by gw in recent years who plays it straight and is just "fuck yeah chaos I love power"
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>>98385066
Every Archan hanchman, which is why he got a soft coup when he told his "trusted" warriors he actually wants to get rid of chaos
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>>98385066
no

sad, isn't it?
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>>98385066
I mean, Festus is pretty chill. He's pretty happy to do his thing.

Otherwise, generally the deeper into chaos you go even if you're top dog there's still that everpresent feeling that you'll say the wrong thing and get turned inside out because the gods thought it'd be funny.
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>>98385061
I loled
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>>98385066
New nurgle guy looks happy about it
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>>98385075
that's not what happened, archaon preaches openly to be distasteful of the gods and expects all his followers to follow him more than they follow the gods

it's not some big secret
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>>98385080
Monogod guys is cheating. Most of them like their 1 patron
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>>98385099
Uhhh, do Be'lakor's servants count? I think Eternus is pretty happy with how things are going for him.
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>>98385096
Was there ever a nurgle guy in fantasy or aos that was unhappy with chaos? Maybe Tornus?
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>>98385096
He sure does put on a happy face
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>>98385109
>Maybe Tornus?
Torgluk the Despised back the, but it's the same guy.
Horticulous "Sour Seed" Slimux hates his chud life too
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>>98382499
I think people get too up in arms about models not being super well painted, but I will never understand why people don't at the very least go through the effort of priming all their minis in a single base color. It's incredibly quick, (relatively) cheap, and looks so much better compared to pure grey. Terrain honestly is kind of fun as a Chamon themed thing (though obviously highly doubt that's intentional lmao). 3/10 cause the Stormcast that are painted have a neat potential color scheme.
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>>98385075
The last world will feature an "unholy schism" within chaos that sees archaon ascend fully to chaos god status (of dominion and conquest) after his fight with siggy, which obviously pisses off the others prompting them to crown a new everchosen who is a woman
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>>98385210
An Extrachosen.
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>>98385066
We're in the ADB era of lore where all Chaos champions are actually misunderstood heroes who just want to fix the world/Realms/galaxy but those stupid stinky Imperials/Azyrites/Loyalists keep getting in the way of saving humanity from those horrible, awful Sigmar/Emperor/Sigmar guys who keep abusing humanity and don't know what's best for mankind
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>>98385271
Is ABD still alive?
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>>98385276
Unfortunately.
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>>98383671
>Canada
I see where the problem lies
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>>98385271
The only guy that is close to that is Archaon and it's clear that he is a hypocrite since he destoyed the World that was and gained nothing while Sigmar created a force that is able to fight chaos (and he has to be only a little pragmatic about it) while Aelven Gods bound one of the Four
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>>98385276
what's abd, I only know abdl unfortunately
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Why the FUCK are TOW warriors front and center? Are we being replaced?
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>>98385360
>TOW listed fourth after Horus Heresy and barely before the licensed product Middle-Earth
lol
really hammering in that specialist game status
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>>98385360
Yes, we are on the level of space marines now. It's over
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>>98385210
Make her model erotic but still powerful looking and I'm okay with it
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>>98385360
This is the third such post I've seen within the past couple hours on the same whogivesashit topic with the same nonsense observation.
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>>98385344
He means ADB : Aaron Dembski-Bowden
a crypto marxist author who writes novels for GW/Black Library with characters that are anime-tier overpowered and misunderstood edgy rebels/anti-heros
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>>98385409
>Polish last name
>tries to destroy the AoS setting by writing terrible characters
Why can't they help themselves?
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>>98385434
Speaking of, I wonder how the shaerk janny is doing these days
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>>98385444
>the shaerk janny
the what ?
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>>98384885
>AoS,TOW and 40k
HH bros...
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>>98385409
He use to post on /tg/ as well, until he got in with GW and suddenly was too good for 4chan. Kek.
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>>98385516
>HH bros
HH indeed, Bro.
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>>98385509
Back in 2019 or so there was a VERY prolific shitposter with a hateboner for AoS, who would spam the fuck out of the catalogue and generals with post like "when did AoS jump the shaerk?" accompanied by the idoneth allopex ad nauseaum. You'd have like 5 of these up at the same time, and keep in mind /tg/ was much more active back in those days. They stayed up suspiciously long, and people who complained about them got bans instead, so anons figured it was probably a janny making these threads himself. This is where the polish meme comes from too.
Anyway things quieted down after a while, though apparently when the site got hacked last year the "polish aos-hating janny" schizo theory got proven correct or something? I don't think I've ever seen anyone offer concrete proof for that though.
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>>98385664
Nice, tits should be bigger though
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>>98384186
I just want some Hobgrot archers for the Helsmiths
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>>98385664
The crotch plate seems to be enjoying himself
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>>98385210
Peak writing. And make it Black Talon because why not.
>>98385360
TOW has a starter and a new game mode about to be released?
Meanwhile we wait for city of ash reprint.
>>98385664
Put her in modern clothes and my boner vanishes :(
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I want to try AOS, is Spearhead worth it? And which Spearhead faction fits this vibe. picture related.
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>>98385739
You would too if you were in his position
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>>98385979
It's fun and cheap and a good entry point
Seraphon
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if Holds dont double down on the dragon imagery then I dont want it.
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>>98386014
If Seraphon had big titty amazon dragonesses as Characters I would play them in a heartbeat. Unfortunately...
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>>98386025
DoK
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>>98386025
nobody is stopping you adding big titty women to your bases or on the bigger dinos



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