Previous: >>98376066Edmund McMillen Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What's a UB set that will save Magic?
>>98380524>TQ: What's a UB set that will save Magic?If LoTR wasn't already a thing, it'd absolutely be it. There's no other fantasy IP that comes close
Earthbending is a failure of a mechanic and whoever designed it needs to be subjected to countless lashings. Every time I sit down at a pod and some cunt pulls out their Toph deck I know I'm in for two hours of absolute bullshit. Fuck earthbending, fuck Toph players, and fuck wotc.
>>98380548You don't understand, if I get punished for animating all my lands it's a feelsbad :(
>>98380524>TQ: What's a UB set that will save Magic?a Taylor Swift set
Repostan' since the thread ended before I could post my answer>>98380517Back when Sheldor was in charge, the banlist was a LOT more "Vibes" based. Sure, they put cards on that were absolutely fucking problems, but there were also a good number of cards that did or didn't get put on there because the RC felt/didn't fell they were banworthy. Emrakul and worldfire are two such examples of the former, and for like, a year and a fucking half Prophet of Krupix was the latter.And as an addendum, I will say that a bit of vibes based banning is okay. Strictly speaking, a card like upheaval isn't anywhere near too strong to play against, but it's banworthy since it's a card that can't really be used to do much more than make the game longer and less fun for everyone.
>>98380548earthbending has to be the biggest "fuck you" WotC have done in a very long time. animating lands is supposed to be extremely risky but whoops guess what? play a boardwipe and I get all my lands back enjoy my middle finger
Choice in artwork aside. Is it cringe to keep track of your mana with a placeholder and dice? After a few mana geysers and highly stacked black markets I've lost my mind too many times.And I'm already cringe.
>>98380566It's less of a "Fuck you" than awaken, since at least they bothered to center the mechanic in an appropriate color
>>98380524>What's a UB set that will save Magic?Amazing Digital Circus, clearly.
>>98380577Blue needed more help bro
>>98380575it's smart to have placeholders and diceit's cringe to like this slop.
>>98380524You didn't hear this from me, but next june they'll be releasing UB: Ram Ranch.MaRo will be guest starring as Cowboy #6
>>98380548It's basically "what if green was aristocrats" I swear. They land a sac outlet and its fucking over.
>>98380548Wrong. Avatar was an amazing set because it's fantasy.
>>98380594>Implying they need an outlet for this retard mechanic
>>98380548Speaking of Toph, what's the best version of her to run as a commander?
>>98380597The only thing "Fantasy" about Avatar is the fantasy of it being good
>>98380604gotem
>>98380575Buy colored dice retard.
>>98380575I wanna fuck that goblin
>>98380611You're on /tg/, of course you want to fuck the shortstack
>>98380607Colored dice would be far more expensive
>>98380619they're like 10 fucking cents each just how poor ARE you?????
>>98380633Do you know how many dicks he'd have to suck for ONE die at that price? Ten
dragons AREN'T for gay sex they're for corrupting spellcasters
>>98380642Wow, the economy is doing a lot worse than I thought...
>>98380633No LGS I have ever gone to sells individual dice at 10 cents each. They sell them in little packages of 10-15 for around 11 dollars. Where are you finding these singular 10 cent dice?
>>98380650Every LGS I've ever been to has a big, usually fishbowl of loose dice that are for sale.
>>98380607I already own dice. I can just put them on these and not worry.>>98380611She's far too busy.
>>98380646
>>98380646>The dragons in the water are turning the spellcasters gay
>>98380650d6s at every LGS around me are 10-25 cents each, depending on how sparkly/colorful they are. d20s are .50-$1 each. try going to places that don't aim to rip players off
>>98380650My LGS has a bucket of dice that you can buy individually from, or you can pay like $10 to fill a 21oz cup up and then put in a bag.
>>98380575If straight up stab you in the throat if you came to my lgs with those
>>98380524>TQ Was talking with my pod, thought that Fullmetal Alchemist would make a fun UB set. Thoughts?
>>98380808I'd like to avoid more performative outrage over the fucking dog girl, thanks>it le hecking traumatized me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>TQAnother Fallout Set.
>>98380808Might actually be a fun set. Though "Alchemist" would likely get put under "Wizard" creature type. And since the military is such a big part of the setting, so many of your creatures would just end up "Human Soldier Wizard" >>98380822lol
>>98380524>TQ: What's a UB set that will save Magic?Pokemon
>>98380907Kill yourself furfaggot
>>98380808>craft as removalwould be kino, though the set would probably be plagued with officer/soldier/mercenary/rebel and have the distinct problem of way too many humans
>>98380922Joke's on you, I'm already dead on the inside.
>TQSMT or Monster Hunter>only big fuckass demons and some elder dragons need to be legendary>minor cast of playable characters/relevant npcs>literally just Duskmourne without the dude 80s movies shit>literally just Ikoria without mutate>pixie sexo>wyverian sexoI mostly just want a kill spell with "one more god rejected" on it and a rangers guile with "just dont get hit" on it
>>98380524Evangelion. If only to expanse the Angel type beyond just "winged waifus"
>>98380962>not Noble Voice: Fuck You>instant >destroy target>if target eas a god, draw 1 card
>>98380962sorry best I can do is persona and the "fixed" monhun secret lair
>tqThe only true and honest way possible
>>98380922>Gardevoir>Furry
>>98380575B A S E D coomerjokes aside, colored dice (as another fag said) or the good ol' pen and paper
>>98380991>I play fuck my own mother.>Both me and the person to my left lose the game.
>>98381002>Not "Doing My Mom"
>>98380664Shaved, nice detail
>>98380991I'M WORKING ON IT Chaos Vault[I'd buy]
>>98380991>>98381002>>98381009>search your library for a boyfriend free girl>fail to find
>>98380991Sonichu creature type
>>98380991Creature - Human Villain God
>>98380991>JUUUULIEEE>Draw 3 cards, lose 5 life
>>98380962>marin fucking karin that completely ruins the table and is force freecast if milled or exiled
>>98380972I feel like we're gonna see it with the new Kamigawa set
>>98380524Hazbin Hotel. All angels and demons and bringing in all the gay little freaks and driving out all the remaining chuds.
>>98380524>TQ: What's a UB set that will save Magic?
>>98381048you must be 18+ to be here, anon. Back to kiddies pool
>>98380991>plays Clone>artwork is liquid chris
>>98381057>Game flounders for 30 years>LotR happens>Suddenly everyone knows about itI agree. It is funny how you can basically pick any IP and have it outsell 30 years of Magic sets.
>>98381064Chud detected.
>>98380991It is both hilarious and disturbing that there is more than enough Chris Chan lore to make a full UB set with.
>>98381068Yeah, any game will become known when it suddenly turns into a million-dollar lottery.
>>98381068More like>Logan Paul teaches every normie that cards are worth money>MTG jumps on the ultrasupermegalimitedprintrun cards trend at the same time>Suddenly everyone knows about it
>>98381077wasn't that already the case with Black Lotus?
>>98381068
>>98381047I'm more mad at fat Arwen than anything else, and I'm glad that all the discussion threads are saying the same thing
>>98381070There's an entire board for dogfuckers it's called /trash/
>>98380724So your LGS does not sell dice blind bags or sets of dicex? If they do then why would anyone pay 12 bucks for that shit when you can get a dozen die from like 3 bucks?
>>98381064Someone already mentioned TADC and that is far more childish. Though Hazbin/Helluva is very "Trying too hard."
>>98381074>is more than enough Chris Chan lore to make a full UB set with.Hell, is more than enough Chris Chan lore to make full novels on 3-set blocks
>>98381095>TADCI don't even know what this is, anon
>>98381083false simetry, fat tard
>>98380582GLITCH loves to merchandise so I wouldn't be surprised if it got a secret liar at the very least.
>>98381107I was asking a legitimate question fatty
>>98381094>So your LGS does not sell dice blind bags or sets of dicex?nope, just big clear plastic boxes of loose dice at the counter that you can sift through. I've never seen anything else in years of playing at different places>why would anyone pay 12 bucks for that shit when you can get a dozen die from like 3 bucks?yeah remember that one time when I said the following:>try going to places that don't aim to rip players off
>>98381047>A whole new round of crying about black Aragorn 3 years laterAND YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A LARGE AUTOMOBILEAND YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF IN A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE, WITH A BEAUTIFUL WIFEAND YOU MAY ASK YOURSELF"WELL, HOW DID I GET HERE?!"
>>98381114I'd build a Bubble deck.
>>98381095HH is the most childish piece of media not made for children I have consumed in recent memoryCharacters swearing, having sex, and being traumatized does not make something mature
>>98381128That's the "trying too hard" part.
>>98381128What does make something mature?
>>98381143It sure isn't "copying disney songs"
I want to see some absolute curveball shit like rahxephon UB
Chud is a minority group in mtg environment and must be preserved at all cost.
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98381166I thought they were the majority?
>>98381149Every UB set with the exception of LOTR is a property made for children who are now at least in their 30s
>>98381168No, that's "chuds", which is just average people enjoying the game. Actual chuds are a minority that hates blacks, trannies, and complains about character not quite being hot enough (if you do none of these, you are a "chud").
>>98380548Someone explain to me what's so good about toph, all the versions of her just look like more of your typical Gx land value slop.
>>98381173You wouod have to expand your definision if "made for children" to include things that are definitely rated for adults like warhammer and fallout, but sure.
>>98381173Sounds like something that fits Rahxephon as well
>>98381185UUUUUUOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH!!!That is all.
>>98381173The "E for Everyone" curse is going to be enforced for anything outside of a Secret Lair or promotional release, and those are going to sit firmly in the "T for Teen" camp because it's a mass marketed cardgame published by a board-game company.
>>98381194
>>98381083Black lotus only gained its absurd value ages after it was out of print. And the bonus cards they threw into Zendikar packs were a surprise.
>>98381196yes, and?
>>98381182gonna be real witchoo champOnly people I hear use "chud" are on the right.
>>98381173Reminder that the first actual unique UB was of a show so gory it'd get an NC-17 if it went to theaters.
>>98381207>Crystrons and Drowning Mirror ForceNice
How could I make him work? Is there some colorless card that can make me bounce cheerios?
>>98381212Please understand, a rapist slaver cult leader warlord is Magic-adjacent.
>>98381226I completely forgot this was the EDH thread until this got posted tbqh
>>98381244sucks to be you, I guess
>>98381228I agree completely.
>>98381226cloudstone curio
>>98381226
>>98381272Need to cast non-creatures.
>>98381226>>98381272oh fuck bounce not flicker I'm dumb and gay
someone ask me if i care about this dumb hobby for gay children. playing this for the better part of my life and people at work just think of me as a marvel guy now. what the fuck
>>98381277cry
>>98381211I have definitely heard it on the left, but I have certainly heard it more on the right in mockery of the left's portrayal of them. Then again, I don't listen to leftists much.
>>98381277why do you even care? they never liked you to begin with
>>98380575Just use the strixhaven or theros full art lands you dork ass.
>>98381182so average people
>>98381308unlike you gay incels i have high t and am able to unload crazy in a woman whenever i want (home, work, bar, etc) if i lock in. get your life together
>>98381337>high tsorry about your tits n small dick bro
ugleh
>>98381337Being here whining about mtg begs to differ.Did you lose your bracket 2 game or something?
what's your opinion on forcing your opponents to make decisions?
>>98381405That's a lot of text for someone not wanting to cast Bitter Triumph
>>98381365nice wotc is trying to bring hte price down
>>98381365I actually like the art itself.
>>98381365that's a portrait of the most beautiful british woman, mind yourself.
>>98381365According to the artist this is supposed to be a child.
>>98381491bro, you lost?
Is this card racist?
>>98381545if you play it you're a chud
>>98381277All the shit I liked in middle school and high school that was considered lame and gay (MtG, Anime, DnD, fantasy books) is considered mainstream and normal now. Life is good.
>>98379140>throw my Izzet combo pile into there>A++ combo interaction, could use some more tutors and counterspells for this power levelHeh, not my thing but sounds about right.>throw in my casual Gruul stompy build, meant to be easy and straightforward for noobs to pilot with 10 ramp spells>B+ midrange, could use some more tutors and counterspellsWh-what? A 10th of the deck is already tutors. Counterspells in RG?>also WARNING, WARNING: NO MANA ROCKS DETECTED IN THE LANDFALL DECKAI you're so silly.
https://moxfield.com/decks/ZquvirHMhka4KyoxtpmhRAIs this accurate?
>>98380992If you wouldn't a Gardevoir that's worse than being a furry desu, that's just being outright gay
>>98381365Just like Tolkien envisioned.
>>98381048Chuds like that show tho.
>>98381116>I've never seen anything else in years of playing at different placesYou're what people call a liar.
>>98381143When a pair of characters clearly should be having sex, but they refuse for the sake of the plot.
>>98381173I don't know how to tell you this Anon, but LotR was LITERALLY made for children.
>>98380524>TQX-Files
>>98381666yes
>>98381724
>>98381365Nice, I've been waiting to see if they reprinted this ugly fuck with better art before pulling the trigger on one. The character is ugly but the art blows the other two out of the water.
>TQWitcher or X-Men if they let the muties have big floppers
>>98380619Maybe if you actually played the fucking game, went to at min 5 prereleases and traded each time to get a color you didn't have before you'd already be able to have themMaybe less if you trade a card you pulled for someone else's dice to get more than one per event.
>>98381274Don't feel too bad, I can never remember the difference between the shit either
>>98381847Nah those two are very different things, I just got them mixed up due to sleepiness/not paying attention. It's blink vs flicker that I don't care to remember. My friends just call them fast/slow flicker instead
>>98380524>TQ: What's a UB set that will save Magic?>UB Pokemon>UB Harry PotterThe only actual answers.
>>98381736The hobbit was but lotr literally wasn't
>>98381857basado
>>98381838commanders with this vibe?
>TQIt's a never ever but I'd like a set of Stalker decks like we had for Fallout. Duty Mardu, Freedom Sultai, Monolith Grixis, and Clear Sky Esper.
>>98381365Nah it's weird cute. Feels in line to how weird hobbits were supposed to look.
>>98382016Tifa and hopefully Rogue
>>98382255I look like and do this
Besides taking a break, are there any other solutions to mtg / edh burnout?Been making tons of deck lists for 6 months and haven't been motivated to build any irl. Even for the ones I like a lot, I'll find something I don't like about them or realize that what I like about them only works when the deck is doing it's best.
>>98382365precons
>>98382365Do you build fun decks? Meaning decks whose goal is to "do their thing"? If not, I would suggest it. If they aren't consistabt enough, take out synergy pieces that don't do as much and replace them with draw spells, ideally low cost ones.
>>98380524>TQ: What's a UB set that will save Magic?I'm honestly surprised a Demon Slayer UB hasn't been done yet. I think it might be the only Anime IP big enough and prevalent in current year enough to get WOTC's attention.And if they want to break into the Japanese and weeb audience? Seems like an easy win.
I have not paid attention to Magic since Secrets of Strixhaven's spoilers but Thranduil's design looked neat so I am intrigued. How is the Hobbit set being received so far? Are they doing the same diversity stuff they did with LOTR set?
>>98382365Post ones that you like a lot, we'll see why you are burnt out
>>98382365building decks is an art: it's normal to find yourself stuckinspiration will come
>>98382365Embrace bracket 1.
>>98381185Yes, there is utility in the ability to sac a fetchland multiple times and landfall multiplier. Metalbender turns artifacts into lands, so removing artifacts now becomes difficult.
When did you start enjoying slop (read: universes beyond)?
When did you stop tolerating shit (read: universes within)?
I'm glad someone at wotc still knows what fun design is.
>>98382734Creepshow, Evil Dead, and Princess Bride.
>>98382745Real cute design. love that you're encouraged to play some out of tribe stuff.
>>98382766Fucks hard with Kudo.
>>98380524Will never happen, but Cerebus The Aardvark has enough pure schizo energy to filter out any unwanted people.Tho I guess authors of original TMNT comic were friends with Dave Sim and there was an official crossover so why not?
>>98381048isn't hazbin goyslop for transchuds
>>98381838Is that octokuro
>>98382550literally anything mainstream from wsj is arguably bigger than magic, I wouldn't be surprised to see wan piss getting cards even though it has a tcg but shit like JJK/MHA are just as likely since they are "complete"
>>98382734Tifa.
I've decided I want to try and make a CEDH viable chaos deck now. It seems like this lass can run omen machine and knowledge pool, I could probably get away with running timesifter then right since I have so many big mana artifacts?
>>98382769Thanks for reminding me how hideous those MH3 cards are.
>>98381559>mainstream and normal nowBeing lame and gay IS the mainstream and normal now, anon
>>98380524>TQI'm still surprised they haven't tried to make a MLP set yet. The amount of shitposting it would create would be legendary.
>>98382858The Crimson Chin!
>>98382944They did a MLP Secret Lair
I want to build Varchild, and I had seen a post here that said “I’m crashing this game with 10,000 survivors”. Anybody have that!
>>98382944too busy licensing it out to China
>>98382968Three of them
>>98382968I meant a full set, with precons and everything.
>wanted to build a bracket 2 budget mono blue thopter deck>browse through artifact affinity cards and find the cool panther robot>want to build a bracket 1 robot deck now where every card is a cool robotany ideas who I should pick for a cool robot commander?
>>98383064either Eggman or the colorless Ultron
>>98381185assuming it's Gruul Toph:>put a +1/+1 counter on this thing>play one of the Amulet of Vigor effects that makes it return to play untapped>ramp your entire deck and get 40 cast triggers and death triggers>>98380548the real failure of earthbending is that there's no jund earthbending commander!! c'mon wizards there are just as many black earthbending cards as there are red ones. I don't wanna use Avatar Aang for this
>>98380575nah, that's not cringe -->Choice in artwork aside.no bro. we are not setting the choice in artwork aside. even if you're a coomer at a table of people who accept you you need to get some taste lol
>>98383090>eggmanI said *cool* robot, not sexual deviant autist franchise robot>Ultronthat shit looks like a flying gay man from americaare you making fun of me because I think the panther robot looks cool? I'm not joking anon, I really like that robot.
>>98383090>>98383127nvm, sorry anon, I looked ultron up, he looks cool. I thought you were talking about vision, I'm not too experienced with capeshit.
>>98382977What are you talking about? What is China doing with the My Little Pony IP other than making it really easy for me to make AI show accurate porn?
>>98383135I think if you want to go full on Robot then he's most likely the best choice the black one is better but I like this one more
>>98380524>TQAny day now
>>98383139They're doing a card game. Like an actual card game and a collectable art cards waves on the side.
Thinking about revisiting this deck. Realized I missed an amusing polymorph effect in the form of Descendants' Fury. Interestingly with the Final Fantasy living weapon variants + the regular living weapon variants the deck's polymorph subtheme can lean toward Phyrexians and Heroes you cheat out. Which I think would be novel if not oppressive in the wrong game (will likely avoid 10-mana Jin as it'd be a rude early game target)
>>98383264>it's real, and it literally debut in April in China onlyBut. . . but why? Who? Where the fuck is this audience coming from?I uhh, this is going to sound completely out of left field but I'm involved in the development of a semi-popular indie game. Kind of a meme game whose heyday was 8 years ago, not really that big a deal anymore I'm not trying to brag, but uhh I've been asked directly by Chinese people before if there was ever going to be any work towards a Chinese translation of our game. Keep in mind this is something that shouldn't even be KNOWN about in China period since it shouldn't be legal there in the first place with the sort of themes it tackles. Chinese people confuse the hell out of me, amongst their one billion numbers there's a guaranteed underground westaboo audience of thousands for literally anything you can think of over there it seems.
wàn zhì pái (万智牌) will have an even bigger foothold in china once mtg gets the genshin impact UB
>>98383064
>>98383162it's less about the tribe and more about the artwork, I want to build bracket 1 for that reason. would work well with graaz tho, since I always wanted to run it in a deck.
>>98383337You can already buy the cards state side. They had a panel for it this year's Anime Expo and had all the precons and a box. Said they were going to start sending out the sets stateside soon to catch up the tower already four or more sets that were in China.
>>98382857The Queen of Green
>if something like oublette has phased something out, then the player who controls the oublette dies, the thing it was phasing out stays phased out for the rest of the game This can't be right
Any creature should be eligible as commander, legendary or not
>>98383576It's ELDER DRAGON HighlanderIf your commander isn't an Elder Dragon then it shouldn't be allowed
>>98383565that's because you're not right duh
>>98383579This
>>98382550I think demon player's time has come and gone, the movie will still make money but it's otherwise not that popular anymore. JJK,Dragon Ball or a WSJ UB with every IP would do amazing.So would UB Hello Kitty, unironically
>>98383565Well it is. When a players loses the game, everything the have leaves the game, and ceases to exist, including any delayed triggers, like the ones for oblivion ring or oublette. This is an often forgotten about or just unknown rule where people take their things back they they lost when the player dies.
>UB Quintessential Quintuplets>UB Evangelion>UB Haruhi Suzimaya>UB Makeine>UB JJK>UB One Piece>UB Frieren>UB Dungeon Meshi>UB The Fragrant Flower Blooms with DignityI want all of this. I should probably just switch to playing Weiss Schwarts. Is the game actually fun like MtG is?
>>98383665Sweet jesus.
>>98383579This is why monhun is the only feasible UB property
>>98383646if oubliette leaves the battlefield the creatures phases in tapped regardless if the reason is because of naturalize or player removal
You'll know the game is well and truly on its way out when they drop the RWBY collabIt's a real phenomenon I'm not making that up
>>98383686RWBY still exists?
UB game of thrones would work
>>98383678No. The dying player controls the trigger that would return the creature to play, and when they die, the triggers ceases to exist, and therefore will not go on the stack, and you will not get the creature back.
>>98383686they better make the manacost RWBY!! (Y being just a fancy X)
>>98383689that's too on the nose, give me wheel of time
>>98383690triggers just don't magically work just because people die, that's like saying withengar unbound doesn't work either
>>98383696white is yellow though
>>98383688Rooster Teeth still exists but as far as I understand it's a shell operation rn
>>98383579Can I play my custom cards for the elder dragons that don't have any?
>>98383665Into the Nazgul deck you go
>>98383703702.26nWithengar is not controlled by the player who has left the game. Anon is citing rule 800.4d:>If an object that would be owned by a player who has left the game would be created in any zone, it isn’t created. If a triggered ability that would be controlled by a player who has left the game would be put onto the stack, it isn’t put on the stack.Oubliette is a strange card but the most recent oracle text suggests that there is no delayed trigger meaning the creature WOULD phase back in (as would something under banishing light). Cards like Oblivion Ring or even Flickerwisp however, would cause you to permanently lose whatever was exiled.Interestingly, I didn't realize that if a player leaves the game during their turn, that turn continues.
The way Amass works is retardedThat is all
>>98383703They don't trigger, because they and the player aren't in the game anymore there buddy. Oublette and Oblivion ring cease to exist, and there is no player in control of the oblivion ring etc to put the trigger on the stack so there is nothing telling the game to return whatever it was that got removed so it sits where ever it was.
>>98383747>Oubliette is a strange card but the most recent oracle text suggests that there is no delayed trigger meaning the creature WOULD phase back inexactlyand wotc moving away from oblivion ring wording isn't strange at all, in fact wotc is making it intuitive for players (or really, make it so that they reduce spite plays like conceding just to make it harder for the person they hate to win), yet more proof that edh is best played with the mindset of winning regardless if you're on a cedh pod or playing with b1 draft chaff
>>98383747Ah, ignore the 702.26n. I thought that might have been relevant to the situation but I do not believe it is. The wording is odd:>In a multiplayer game, game rules may cause a phased-out permanent to leave the game or to be exiled once a player leaves the game. (See rules 800.4a and 800.4c.) If a phased-out permanent phased out under the control of a player who has left the game, that permanent phases in during the next untap step after that player’s next turn would have begun.Because it seems to contradict 'everything you own ceases to exist, everything you control is exiled' rule of leaving the game. Initially I read it as "if a phased out permanent phased out due to an effect controlled by the player who has left the game" but the rule actually says "phased out under the control of a player who has left the game". I can't think of a situation where that permanent would phase in but maybe it's some weird combination of phasing + threaten effects?
>>98383724reading this post made me realize two things1. we actually have elder dragons for every single 1, 2, and 3 color combination other than the wedges (minus Piru)2. the Planar Chaos cycle wasn't elder dragons. if they had been, then we would have checked the last of the boxes with Strixhaven's enemy-color pair dragons.
>>98383751aiee save me hybrid rule change
Am I retarded if I buy one now expecting it to be inevitably pushed to gamechanger in the next 5 years?
>>98383771Oubliette is not a strange card because it uses the updated wording, it is a strange card because it was retrofitted to use phasing but was never intended to and did not use phasing for literal decades before WotC applied functional errata (albeit light functional errata).
>>98383834no, in fact you'd be wiser than most
>>98383834I think that's pretty reasonable to assume. I was planning on picking up a few base rarity along with one of the special guests printings as well.
>>98383834I'm hoping this doesn't shoot up before next tax season.
>>98383779Yeah, these are the missing color pairs paired with the elder dragons that existed during the elder dragon war that never recieved cards.
>>98383665Yes. YES.
>>98383665>slap that on a random Goblin in a Krenko deck>choose Goblin>infinite money glitchWHAT WERE THEY THINKING WAS BUSTER SWORD NOT ENOUGH
>>98383870>>98383834I actually forgot this was 0 manaKeep this retarded shit banned
>>98383754They really should have errata'd it to make a different army for each type of amass. Also armies just suck pretty bad. Should really work differently, maybe a "prevent that damage abd remove one counter" system instead.
>>98383754>>98383913Armies in general are dumb. Why would an army be a single big token instead of a bunch of 1/1?
>>98383906I mean it SHOULD be banned (just like jeweled lotus and sol ring) but the cynic in me doubts wotc will keep it that way when it could be printed as a chase rare instead
>>98383906>>98383959Making it a GC still makes it banned in b2, the bracket you guys belong in
>>98382734I never did.
>>98383834Yeah sure they'll unban Mox Pearl soon too. It only makes 1 mana instead of 2.
Bans are retarded in general. Allow every card, but set baselines for each card. Like if they think Prime Time or Sundering is that game breaking, make him B4 minimum.
>>98384006That's just a banlist with extra steps.
>>98384006No retardBans are retarded because Commander is a for fun meme format you play with your friendsIn that environment you should be more than prepared to rule 0 shit you don't like with your pod
>>98384009so a gamechanger then
>>98384022The gay Gavin excuse is that it makes decks too samey. His reason for Emrakul being banned is "dude if she isn't banned EVERYONE will put her in every deck."
>>98384006You've described what they're already doing with game changers. They've slowly been pulling bans made by the RC a thousand years ago like Biorhythm and Panoptic Mirror off the banlist and made them GCs. But frankly there isn't much left on the banlist that doesn't deserve to be there.
>>98384054(besides the zesty elf, obviously)
>>98384006>set baselines for each of the 21k cards
>>98384022"Rule 0" is a thought terminating cliche for nogame retards, and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>>98384070For the banned cards you dummy.
>>98384062No. Keep that fucker on the list, especially with Badgermole Cub now existing.Keep him there with his boyfriend Leovold.
Can someone recommend me a good honest Boros or mono-Red aggro commander? Preferably one I can build relatively cheaply. All my decks are either big mana inevitability engines or control decks, I need a change of pace and I have no red decks and only 1 white deck right now. I feel totally lost, I haven't played aggro in EDH since I made a shitty sliver deck a decade ago.
>>98384080And the game changers? Wouldn't this just turn into tiered banning? So you have a "only in 3+" list, and "only in 4+" list, an "only in 5+" list, and an "outright banned" list.
>>98384088>Dude Rofellos will make 5 mana instead of 4. Clearly stronger than Kinnan.
>>98384078>bro doesn't have friends
>>98384062I hope he never gets unbanned, just so you, specifically will never be happy.
>>98384054have the playset foil of this somewhere, wish me luck, guys.
>>98382734Never. Despite liking the franchises I'm not retarded enough to enjoy the dissolution of my hobby.
>>98384158Based. Atla is my favorite show ever. Didn't even look at the set. Srill don't know what's in it beyond what's posted here occationally and lessons cause they got big.
>>98382734If they make something Kirby, perhaps I will step down my throne,
>>98384129>he only has yes-men for friendsrule zero tards basically amount to "my pod does exactly what i want it to do"
>>98384054>But frankly there isn't much left on the banlist that doesn't deserve to be there.there's at least 10 that don't deserve to be there
>grrr. I hate all of these cards made for my card game.
>>98384181ban all commander cards tbhdesu
>>98384188
>>98384188Unironically yes, they were a mistake from the beginning.
>>98384194>this is wrong and feelbad for bracket 2>don't mind my deflecting swat vs your precon btwWhat did JotC mean by this?
>>98384167based pink eater
>>98384211>red needs a buff in casual>blue doesn't need any more busted cards
>>98384211Can't deflecting swat someone's sol ring or board wipe
>>98384118They're the same powerlevel actually.
wotc will never unban a card that's in the reserved list
>>98384188come to prEDH
>>98384194Whoever first decided to print a free counterspell needs to be beaten to death
>>98384250Wouldn't that be force of will?
>>98384222Not with that attitude
>>98384222Can't turn someone's removal for your permanents into removal for another player's permanents with Fierce Guardianship either.
>>98384250Newfag
>>98384279Kill yourself retard
>>98384282Rent free
>>98384271That's still less powerful than a counter spell.
>>98384309lol
>>98380972I dig the idea of Angels being expanded beyond the mere woman with wings archetype.
>>98383751That one autist has made me hate the very concept of goblins
>TQ
>>98384381>I dig the idea of Angels being expanded beyond the mere woman with wings archetype.but that would mean people would look up the bible and we can't have the chuds win
>>98380972Angels haven't been winged waifus for awhile. We need basically good (as in mechanically) angels which also have good art first before we start deconstructing them. The playable angels we have today are mostly an amalgamation of weird shit, not waifus with wings.
>>98382734Haven't and won't.>you say that now but when they do your favorite--No. I fundamentally dislike the forced crossover implementation. There is no pairing that would change my mind on that.
>>98384414Reddit likes the "biblically accurate" angels and they are anti-Christian sperglords.
>>98384416>he says while posting a winged waifu
>>98384416I would literally marry this on the spot, anon
>>98384423they actually don't because we would've gotten wheels on fire instead of black angels instead
>>98384432>>98384433Coombrains opinions on beauty don't count though. Y'all go crazy over literally everything vaguely reminiscent of the female form.
>>98384447Hey man, save it for /vp/. Cool it with the sexually suggestive images.
>>98384447>vaguely reminiscentAnon you need to go check your eyes to a doctor.
>>98384447Don't be ridiculous, anon. Stuff like your pictu---
>>98384447this general is full of furries and tranniesnever mind the female form, any hole would do
>>98384447That's rich coming from the guy posting lewd images of Jewish women
>>98384447I should call her.
>>98384447I accept your concession?
>>98384447Tell me you wouldn't
>>98384109Muxus goblin tribal. Slicer is also ok.
>>98384129Ah, yes, the nogame make-believe social group, where nobody ever goes anywhere outside of Steve's kitchen or wants to meet new people, nobody powercreeps the group as they change their deck, nobody changes their decks (except magical brews that are always somehow perfectly in-line with the group's powerlevel), everyone always attends, everyone always agrees, and games are won at an even 25% split between players.Fuck off.
>>98384257>>98384279nta, but Force costs an additional card in hand
>>98384571>reddit spacingNow I know for a fact you have no friends
>>98384590I doublebroke there because I wanted you to know that you need to fuck off and slit your wrists.
>>98384590Concession accepted...?
*Gains 10 mana of material for 0 mana*Don't GC Swat btw my deck needs it.
>>98384603>>98384687>replied twicelol!
>>98384708Actually you're just gay and retarded.Also, caputalize.You're on this board every day and keep forgetting how to capitalize your sentences you dumb nogames.
>>98384719>Also, caputalize.
>>98384699This shit will never not remind me of one of my favorite EDH interactions>Cast Temporal Manipulation >>In response, I cast Deflecting Swat>It won't do anything>>That says "target player.">No it doesn't>>Wait, what? Can I see it?>Sure. You're probably thinking of Time Warp>>Why would you run this over Time Warp?>Because of Deflecting Swat lolThe dumb part is that since both are the same mana cost there's practically no reason to ever run Time Warp over this unless your gameplan is to deepthroat someone's dick at the table.
>>98384400Unironically, a Lego UB would fit mutate, bands, transform, partner, soulbound and so many other keywords. wack
I want to build him. whats the verdict on him? is he lame or based? I just want a deck where I can cheat out big spells. all my other decks are mostly creature based. not gonna include any infinite combos but I also want to put in the bringers from fifth dawn because holy fuck they remind me of my childhood
>>98384802>I just want a deck where I can cheat out big spellseven if you were to play jodah "fairly" it'll still be lame because you'll realize you're stuck at 5cmc meaning you can only cast 1 spell per turn so you put all that effort in your 5c pile just to play like some green player
If an opponent gives me their Nine Lives, and then they die/concede, do I lose?
What's a fun poison commander that isn't Atraxa?
Time Walk 1UInstantUntap your lands. Draw a card.
>>98384842Yes, but if it's 1v1 you win.
>>98384846my wife
>>98384846
>>98384863How do you actually make this work tho
>>98384875>mana ramp (rituals/rock)>28 lands (5 fetches)>cheap buffs (equips or hatred-like)>black good draw cards>black/colorless good infect/toxic creatures>2 or 3 proliferate artifacts>kill combo player 1st>???win
>>98384830how many spells per turn do you want to cast that the game is fun to you?
>>98384894if you're fine with 1 spell a turn that's fine, the question is why do you need a gimmick in the cz to do that when green can do it for you much more easily?
>>98384385There are many autists here anon
>>98384787>>98384400Too bad Lego wouldn't want Bionicle acknowledged to that extent. Best we'd be able to hope for is a Secret Lair.
>>9838489328 lands is crazy
>>98384910the other colors also have pretty fun big spells, dont you think?
>>98384754>The dumb part is that since both are the same mana cost there's practically no reason to ever run Time Warp over this unless your gameplan is to deepthroat someone's dick at the table.>temporal manipulation>the same mana cost as time warpHuh?
>>98384945Forgive me I'm retarded I was thinking Temporal Mastery.
>>98384851you forgot the land drop
>>98384932You're playing rituals/rocks and good black draw. decks mana curve is 2~3. Mulligan is always a good tool, too
>>98380524https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzkNIScAvsk
>>98384966Could i see your list maybe? Sounds pretty cool
>>98385009just a sec
/bump(kinda tired to make a new)
>>98384699I have Misdirected my friend's Tine Stretch to myself so many times it's not even funny anymore.
>>98384989>My name NEEDS to be synonymous with magic the gathering, even more than that hack dickie, so look at how much damage I did to the game over 30 years
>>98384989Nothingburger video>Hmm yes cards that make infinite mana, draw your whole deck, or let you remove all of an opponent's lands aren't funTakes him an hour to say this.
>>98384989I thought he was going to talk about the philosophy of why cards get banned, how they eventually get unbanned, or so on. Instead he kinda just yapped off a list of slides with LOOK AT ME I AM TERRIBLE AT BALANCE AND DESIGN.
>>98384938>green can't help you cast wubrg!lol
If someone exiles cards from my deck and can play them, plays one of my lands from exile and then that player loses, does the land return to exile or does it come under my control?
>>98385048it makes more sense in retrospect spike is female since it's probably a tranny
>>98385069Returns to exile because it was never under your control.
>>98385077Good to know ty
>>98385069when a player loses with permanents from another player under their control, those permanents all go back to the same place they were taken from
>>98385071nah spike is a mentally ill tranny
>>98384989I had no idea he sounded like that, my disdain for him has been retroactively vindicated
>>98385069If an effect caused that permanent to change controllers, the effect ends and you get it back. If not, they're gone.
>>98385128Yeah that's why idk what applies here since it's not an outright steal effect but instead the opponent actually "playing" the card.
>>98385123BASED
I like the idea of making actually decent decks for piss cheap, so I can share them with friends and not have to freak out if they lose a card (or the entire deck). I built a B3 7/10 Krenko deck for a friend for $75. What's the cheapest I could go while making a deck that isn't a B1 1/10 shitpile?
>>98385194Idk you could probably build a pretty cheap Fynn infect deck that could wreck some people
>>98385194Winota
>>98385194anything where the core of the cards are chaff that are elevated by the commander, combat tricks in zada or feather, evasive weenies in vnxwt
>>98384928True. It's a shame tho, Bonkle set would be pure "Mirrodin on cocaine" kino.
>>98385194B4 Demonlord Belzenlok, aka Godo's Ugly Cousin
>>98385194winotaany group h*ggeranything that's a combo in the command zone
>>98385194kraven + removal.dec is $10 and b2ish
>>98385194Wilson and Agent Of The Shadow Thieves. It's about as simple and cheap as can get
>>98384385Assuming you mean me. Shit piss and cum about it.
>>98385369wish she sat on my face
>>98385369she should be flat with a bigger ass
>>98385194>>98385221>turn 1 flying men
>>98385369kill yourself
