Previous: >>98370358Smaug Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: What's the biggest lie you've ever seen in the text of a Magic card?
>>98376066weird art and needs a black hand
>>98376066I want to build a Smaug and this looks like the better of the two revealed so far. Have all the cards that combo with him already shot up?
reading the card explains the card
>>98375978theres a few LGS' in my town this is just the only one I've been too, guess I need to check out the others cuz yeah, BUNK!!!!
>>98376066I might make this dude a commander red black is perfect for ramping with dark ritual and seething song (seething like you will be on the other side of this card)but no blue to protect it BLOWS. they can never make truly great red blue black (also known as Nightscape colors) commander since thats the best color combo HANDS down>>98376116this is why I play the 5th edition version of that card cus the OG version is retarded (like Fog)
>>98376113what like dark ritual and seething song? or lightning bolt, shock or especially Galvanic Blast from Scars, etc him to jangle him full of gold rings like a Sonic character?
>>98376148just played a game with silly lil nibba on MTGO. he had on a champions helm, a commanders plate, a buster sword in one hand and a leyline axe in the other. plus he was riding a horse (included pic is from a different game but similar)
>>98376145>play 5th ed Instill Energy>my creature is, in fact, still affected by summoning sickness for purposes other than attacking
>>98376165what the actual fuck? "unaffected by summoning sickness" is haste. haste allows tapping for abilities when it comes into play. who made this dickheaded ruling?
>>98376165what makes instill energy break this rule? thats a bad ruling for instill energy. DICKHEADS!!but actually good to know I didnt waste 20¢ on a copy of this for my Garth deck, still good for a Toski deck though. Mainly to get around getting tapped by blue or white opponents until he has hex proof, ward or shroud
>>98376178presumably they ruled it that way to better suit the original text on the card which only specifies attacking.it seems reading the card, did not actually explain the card. who knew!
>>98376189>toski
>>98376195hes the goated squirrel. ultimate mono green Voltron commander. just build him as a b2 with all the great equipment. commander plate, buster sword, sword of truth and justice, etc and do some +1/+1 spam on him, use stuff like Sphere Grid from FFX and more proliferation. HE'S THE HORSE-RIDING GOATED SQUIRREL pic related is another great equipment
>>98376191who woulda thunk it
>>98375938Try another store I guess? I live in a fairly small town and we still get 30~ people for commander every friday.
Just want to go on record to say this thing fucks
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
you are going to see this piece of shit all over the place btw
The infinite, officer?
>>98376269Yeah no shit, mono-white card draw is still shit, and we use what we got.
>>98376269thanks
I'm surprised I don't see this used sometimes as a defense option over Dawn of Hope or the like, i kinda like it
>>98376269Gee thanks for the free gift
>>98376280costs 3 too much
>>98376283why can the community design better cards than wotc
>>98376195The fact that a single random poster on 4chan.edu has given so many people squirrel psychosis is hilarious
miss bumbleflower touched my no no spot and told me not to tell anybody
>>98376367Chill
https://moxfield.com/decks/YfqM-bq4u0q-3OfNun1vigWhat are your thoughts on the deck?How can I improve it?I have in mind buying Cabal Coffers, Cabal Stronghold, Dread Presence, Ad nauseam, Bolas's Citadel, Bloodthirsty Conqueror, Bloodletter of Aclazotz, Ayara First of the Locthwain, Blood Tribute... but they're expensive af, so I'll be buying one of them every 4 months hopefully.In the meanwhile...>How can I fix mana?I need mana to cast more than 1 spell each turn>Life gain sourcesI also tend to notice I need more constant life gain sources, maybe extort?
>>98376191No you were just too stupid to read it yourself. As though you had haste and has haste ARE functionally the same in every way except for the only one the matters.Oh wait, there literally is no card like this that would turn off the keyword Haste specifically. Huh. Pointless for now I suppose, but only now.
>>98376113>see new commander>UMM I MUST MAKE HIM PART OF A 2-CARD COMBO THAT LIVES IN THE COMMAND ZONE IN BLACK (THE COLOR THAT LETS ME TUTOR THE OTHER PIECE EFFORTLESSLY)ok faggot
ban all tutors
>>98376476Are fetch lands tutors
>>98376483only if they can fetch non-basics
>>98376483yes
>>98376483duh
>>98376269it's funny to compare her effect to gollum's
yjk!!!
>>98376663I hardly dragon know 'er
>>98376066>tqThat she doesn't trigger on your opponents creatures dealing damage, she triggers on her creatures being dealt damage. It might be less that the card lies though, and more than the judge who made the ruling is retarded. Nonetheless, right now the card does not work as is written on the card, so it's a lie. I guess you can throw all the Companions cards in that lot aswell.
>>98376835You can let your opponents hit you to trigger her, right?
Fun card
>>98376838>let your opponents hit youWhat does that mean?
>>98376838Yes, she triggers off her controller and her controllers creatures being dealt damage.
>>98376066Not the biggest lie, but it's just the opposite
>>98376256Whoah what's this underrated unknown piece of equipment that doesn't have entire decks built around it? This looks really good has anyone else ever heard of this obscure hidden gem?
>>98376269Most people don't like draw discard so you won't.
>>98376483No.
>>98376256Just went through a long, drawn out game where being able to use this to tutor up a Final Showdown saved me. Still had to pay the 5 mana on top, but it was well worth it to wipe the field at instant speed. But, even that trick still had me in a really tough spot.I was using Forged Anew to alleviate the equip cost of Sunforger, but I actually ran out of instants because I otherwise had been mana-flooded the entire game, and I was up against some insane value engines. Ended up in a situation where I was down to just 5 life and my last opponent was at 50 and had a full field and could kill me the moment he untapped, and all I had left was Forged Anew and Sunforger.I drew into Godo though. Cast him, tutored up Helm of the Host, used Forged Anew to equip it for free, and threw infinite Godos at him. It was a cheap and dirty way to win, and I actually spent several moments wondering if there was anything else I could tutor up with Godo to get me out of that situation, before just giving in and delivering the kill.
>>98376884I don't care how known or unknown it is, that thing fucks
I got the precon for free, is it fun after you upgrade it a bit?
>>98377001It's fun, but it is inherently in the bracket 2 zone.
Make islands, pass.
>>98376848I love stuff like this. I wonder if it's possible to make a deck that is basically nothing but stuff you share with the table like this, Karn the Betrayer, and so on.
test
>>98377140Got banned again?
>>98377222nah 4chan X is just acting up, it's not showing any threads in the thread watcher so I posted again to see if that can fix it but it's still fucked
>>98376165If I like collecting cards with unclear and superfluous rules text and can only get one instill energy, for arguments sake, what's worse: the original print or 5th ed? I didn't catch the difference in the summoning sickness ruling before >>98376269White getting its own connive is cool, I like it >>98376476Reprint all tutors until they're $2<
>>98377134Zedruu decks seem fun until you realize you have to rebuy the deck after every game because people accidentally scoop up your cards
>>98377001The "enchant your opponents stuff" gimmick is a trap, you just want to keep your impetuses (impeti?) out to get your card draw for the turn cycle and buff your own guys like normal. Redemption arc is an impetus from MKC that gives the enchanted creature indestructible so you can pariah it to become nearly unkillable and you can run the Abdel Adrian + Necromancy + Tinybones Jones Up combo if you want a kill combo
what decks are you working on today anons?
>>98377001It's funny for sure, but if you want a superior aura deck, look no further than the big fox tits.
>>98377300Looking through my collection for stuff to put in Klauth since I got that secret lair a few months ago, put in some orders for Hogaak and Vnwxt last night, and messing around with the idea of taking out the more generic "lands matter" lands and utility lands out of my necrobloom deck for a slightly slower maze's end alt win con
>>98377300I'm waiting for the Hobbit spoilers to finish to see if its worth putting together a food deck. I'm hoping for an Evereth style commander like pick related to turn my commander into a big morbidly obese bomb.
>>98376835>That she doesn't trigger on your opponents creatures dealing damage, she triggers on her creatures being dealt damage.Yeah, that’s what the card says it does. Are you retarded?
>>98377300This asshole. I already have a Zhulodok deck to play all the big colorless Eldrazi, so I'm instead trying to make a deck that utilizes all the smaller devoid guys so Ulalek can copy them.
>>98377346>Are you retarded?He's a Commander player. What do you think? Most of the time they don't read the card at all.
>BROOOOO THATS BRACKET 4 DON'T PLAY THAT AGAINST ME ITS NOT CEDH YOU CANT PLAY THATTTTTT YOUR TROLLINGwhat a pathetic "competitive" community kek
>>98377407post the meme decklist
>>98377300Kind of annoying though, and I don't really know why I'm doing it.Greens big ramp package is just really boring to me. Want a gruul deck though.
>You're not okay with hybrid mana? That's okay, we'll play a few without you.
>>98377440reminder that anti-hybrid autists will deservedly get fucked for dying on their damn hill, one way or another
>>98377480Depends entirely on how good the other rulebreaker cards will be, and if the mechanic will return.As it is right now, yeah he seems like dumb fun, but I don't see any reason to play him over partners if playing seriously
>>98377440>I know >I'll hide my bad takes behind this picture of a chadwew>>98377480Fuck off nosewater
>>98377502
>>98377480The funniest part is that this card is almost strictly worse Sokka, Tenacious Tactician, yet autists are still up in arms about it.
>>98377514that's why you never take mentally disabled people seriously
>>98377300>working on Tannuk as a 3>friends claim he is "unfair" and "not an honest 3" since my deck scores an 8.5 on commander salt (whatever that means)How do you deal with this shit? I'm following the rules for a 3 (3GC, etc). I just think it's fun to be able to go RANDOM BULLSHIT GO with giant creatures.
>>98377603Honesty is a literally meaningless term in the context of competitive gaming Ignore that retard
any creature should be eligible as commander, wether legendary or not
>>98377603never let sore losers gaslight you
>>98377613Any card should be eligible as commander
>>98377611>>98377619I managed to cast both Myojin of Roaring Blades and Myojin of Infinite Rage on the same turn, which resulted in me nuking all three opponents' commanders and destroying all land. Two of them started screeching that that's MLD and should be bracket 4/5 only. The deck doesn't have tutors, so this just happened by pure luck.
>>98377632Myojin of Infinite Rage is in fact MLDGavin defines it as cards that "regularly destroy, exile, and bounce other lands, keep lands tapped, or change what mana is produced by four or more lands per player without replacing them"learning this is important so you know that>tremble isn't mld>blood sun isn't mld>from the ashes and wave of vitriol aren't mld>liliana dreadhorde general isn't mldKNOW YOUR TECHNICALITIES
>>983776039/10 the retards who do this shit are playing a garbage B2 pile with a few game changers. Next time your friends whine, bring up the bracket chart and go down the list point by point.B3 is:>strong, synergistic decks with high card quality>wincons that can be played from hand in a turn because of accrued resources>proactive and reactive gameplay>doesn't usually kill anyone before turn 6Then the hard limits of>0-3 GCs, no MLD, no chaining extra turns, no early game 2 card combosIf your deck meets these requirements its by definition a 3. My guess is your opponents are running B2 shitpiles they're over-hyping.
>>98377632I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt but you're literally running one of the few things explicitly banned in B3. Doesn't matter how lucky you are, your list still has a hard MLD piece bumping it up to B4.
>>98377645>Blood Sun isn't MLDWat.
>>98377672what mana is being denied here again?
>>98377672NTA but Blood Sun only turns off utility abilities. Blood Moon is the one Gavin considers "MLD" for the purposes of brackets.
>>98377671>>98377645And here I thought MLD was mana efficient nuke stuff, not a TEN FUCKING MANA creature. Seems like a really fucking gay rule. Whatever though, it's an easy fix since I'll just slap in some fuckhuge dragon instead of him.
>>98377688Bad MLD is still MLD, sorry bro.
>>98377645liliana isn't mld because why? because she normally doesn't go off?
>>98377696look at gavin's definition again and realize that lili's ult affects each OPPONENT
>>98377480this card just doesn't seem goodyour mana is fucked outside of gates and mdfc to fixwho Ux spellslinger would you want to play this over
>>98377693Balefire Dragon or Twinflame Tyrant it is then! If I can't nuke your lands, I'll just nuke all your creatures every single turn.>>98377681Not him, but>actively cripples high power lands (notably Fetches)>actively denies lands wholesale>"lmao bro it's not MLD because they can just sit there!"
>>98377708the whole purpose of the card existing is to fuck over anti-hybrid autists
>>98377719>actively denies lands wholesalethe card can't even turn off cradle
>trying to tune my Vorosh the Hunter deck>get bodied by the most poorly made Yarok deck Ive ever seenREEEE
>>98377719>actively cripples high power lands (notably Fetches)Good. God forbid landfall scrubs can't loop them, they are the protected class that can't be impeded!>Denies lands wholesaleHow, they still produce the mana they say they do.
>>98377603How quickly does it win?
>>98377480Are the rulings for this confirmed yet? If it's the hybrid mana/dual color thing then it's probably only going to be just play since you can only run basics and the mh3 flip lands>>98377603Tell your friends to run better decks
>>98377742It wins whenever I get the big unga bunga cards, since it wins purely by combat damage. The problem seemed to arise from >>98377632 being MLD, but I'll just remove that and add more big bodies instead.
>>98377740>HowAll the good lands are ones that DON'T produce mana like fetches or Urborg.
>>98377777wasted
>>98377783"will somebody please think of the poor fetches?"blood sun doesn't affect urborg btw, know your layers
>>98377783Sucks to suck. That's still not fitting any of these qualifications of MLD"regularly destroy, exile, and bounce other lands, keep lands tapped, or change what mana is produced by four or more lands per player without replacing them"Surely this is MLD to your stupid ass too since lands can not be played out of the graveyard while its on the battlefield.
>>98377603I played against it a lot on arena and boy that shit can get out of control fastpost list cause I could see either side here
>>98377428I really like the idea of building him as a loaded gun. Sort of like a bad combo deck. You can build up a massive store of creatures from him, play Plot creatures into exile (railway brute is particularly powerful), then cast Passionate Archaeologist/Terror of the Peaks/Warstorm Surge effects and take a big turn where you vomit all your stored-up creatures from exile to deal big damage.
Funny this discussion is happening here now. My LGS discord is currently being shit up by someone that woke up at 7 am and decided to begin his day by arguing that mill is MLD.
>>98377880That's more or less what I'm trying to doing with him.
>wotc designing a card to teach mill players how to play the game
>>98377894Speaking of which>check Gavin's rationale for MLD being 4>he says it isn't because of power or anything like that, but rather because "people don't like it when it happens :((("By that metric, shouldn't EVERYTHING be B4 besides playing a shitty game of show and tell with battle cruiser decks?
>>98377909>another piece for Bloodchief/MindcrankOh baby.
>>98377915people find mld frustrating mainly because you're durdling and wasting their time instead of mercifully finishing them off because guess what you blew up your own lands too
>>98377300It's definitely one of the less exciting decks I've built. Midrange hell but it turbos out a big spell very early if no one removes her. I traded for an improv capstone and just wanted an excuse to run that + Dance with Calamity, partners also let me run Genesis Storm which is always fun.
>>98377909Wow I wasn't expecting to get good tech for my Loli deck anytime soon. Nice surprise.
>>98377938I never got this argument. All of Magic is "time wasting" and if you have no lands, you have no game actions. So the turns should go by like lightning.
>>98377894Mass Library Destruction
>>98377938Who even plays MLD like that? When I've used it, I make sure I have my pieces ready to win, either by being already out or castable via other means.
>>98377997Avacyn players that fell behind on tempo because their deck was built poorly and are doing a hail Mary to try stalling the game.This is legitimately the exact use I've seen 70% of MLD be used in. 20% is people trolling. 10% is people that actually used it to win.
>>98377983>So the turns should go by like lightning.except when your opponents got to recover faster than you by just drawing out of your mld thus prolonging the game, good job blowing up your own lands btw
>>98377997people bad at deck building and game senseso, a lot
>>98377997>Who even plays MLD like that?Literally my regular pod before brackets were a thing. They'd just play land destruction on curve because it was "funny."
>>98377997just because you know what the principles of ernhamgeddon are doesn't mean the vast majority of casuals do, why do you think paradox engine got banned in the first place?so yes, you are suffering because of the stupidity of other people, sorry about that
so you're saying the reason my Toph deck can't ramp into a turn 6 Devastation for the win is because other players were casting it and *not* winning?
>>98378052Against all odds, yes. The fact you can even say your plan is "ramp into turn 6 Devastation" puts you ahead of 99% of Commander players.
>>98377087Make several islands. And then pass.
>>98378052yespeople will not run enough lands, and miss land drops after an Armageddon so they get 0 game actionspeople will just tempo out an Armageddon while losing, but have no way to actually take advantage of it, and still be losing or be losing even more because one wipe doesn't fix a bad deckone person builds properly, and has indestructible beaters to hit you while you rebuild. the other players think this is unfair (that you put resilient creatures in your deck) and you only won because of a cheap start (they are mad)all of this boils down to "bad players are bad"
Having played commander (in pubs, the place this issue is most feared) weekly for 16 years now, I have never, ever once had any game stall out from MLD the way angry Redditors make a guy up in their head.
>>98378052don't forget other people casting mld because they're about to lose and just want to grief the rest of the pod, amazing what stupid people can accomplish huh
>>98378093>i only play with smart people>therefore the rest of the population is just as smartlet me guess you don't lock your car when you leave it in a public area because you grew up in a high trust gated community
>>98378107I've played in a wide variety of local game stores, so I've been exposed to the absolute dregs of Magic players. I've played at college. Work break rooms. Stores in multiple states. Conventions.Yet this scenario everyone gets assblasted about has never once happened in that time.
>>98377300This Daredevil. Need to rework the deck a bit. Got a couple of games with him last week and while it was fun, after the games I realized I was only really using mono red burn stuff and I don't think his effect triggered more than once or twice. Brash Taunter for one did a lot of work. I don't want to entirely remove all the burn red stuff that worked but I want Daredevil to trigger and do his thing more and have a bigger impact. Otherwise I would just swap him out for Auntie Blyte.
>>98378093Crucial operator: How many times have you played into MLD?
>>98378116The fact that not once in your life had someone cast armageddon on you just to grief because "hey i'm going to lose anyway" only means that no, you havent actually played the worst players in the world
>>98378129Very rarely pre-brackets I'd put a ruination in mono red decks.
>>98377909Really cool piece for tasha but also just in general I like this. Not exactly a combat deterrent but I'll appreciate my opponents helping me mill for a little damage
>>98378093tell it to Gavin I guess?
>>98378141Okay that's not what I asked. I asked how many times you played into it, not how many times you played it.
>>98378135I've had players make similarly retarded grief plays that ruined the game out of spite. But that's because Magic players make retarded grief plays.
>>98378150Do you mean like overextended to get punished by it? I don't know, a handful of times. If you mean play around it pre-COVID I used to put a decent number of basics in my lists out of respect for ruination.
Personally I think Manabarbs should go onto MLD and Blood Moon should come off.
>>98378149Gavin is very well aware how dumb players are, why do you think sacrifice effects all now have "of your choice" after 30+ years
>>98378151>because Magic players make retarded grief plays.And that's exactly why mld is banned in b3 below
>>98378159Oh right to add onto this I did used to play and see Blood Moon a lot. I forgot Gavin's Jewish sorcery redefined "Mass Land Destruction" as "Mass Land Denial" despite it being the former for 30 years of the game's history.
>>98378168You don't need MLD to ruin the game if that's your goal. Just by existing with the intent to grief you've fundamentally ruined the experience.
>>98378170If you're jewish enough to use blood moon arguing that "it doesnt destroy lands" you're also jewish enough to think of a loophole to gavin's mld definition
>>98378184For most of commander's lifespan nobody gave a fuck about Blood Moon. If you played a 5c slop pile and got btfo by a Blood Moon or Ruination, that's entirely the risk that goes with having access to every color.NOBODY called Blood Moon MLD until brackets got introduced.
>>98378177>crime cant be stopped 100%>therefore we should stop making laws that help curb it there's no point anywayAmazing display of intelligence anon
>>98378184Given that he dodged the question twice I think it's safe to say he has some bias in his perspective.
>>98378195>If you played a 5c slop pile and got btfo by a Blood Moon or Ruination, that's entirely the risk that goes with having access to every color.BASEDonly content creator brained players don't believe this should be the case
>>98378184Blood Moon only punishes greedy manabases. I genuinely think the only reason it's included in the B4 is that precons come with a lot of crappy two color lands that would get shut off by it.
If you play Blood Moon at my table and it's not a custom reminder text Blood Moon that actually explains what the card does I'm picking it up off the table and eating it
>>98378205>you know what i think they banned blood moon because it gimps casuals who dont know how to build a good mana base let alone one that can get around blood moonYou're almost there anon
>>98377346No, it isn't. It says it triggers on sources your opponent controls dealing damage (to permanents and you), not on permanents you control and you being dealt damage.>imb4 it's the same thingIt isn't. An instance of something dealing damage, and an instance of something taking damage are two different things. If a creature with trample attacks through 4 blockers and hitting the player is one instance of damage being dealt, and 5 instances of damage being taken. There are lots of abilities that trigger on damage dealt, so yes, we know this.Some judge is just retarded.
>>98377777Okay... checked, but that doesn't answer my fuckin' question.
>>98378205No, I NEED bloodmoon to beat precons, my deck can't function without it
>>98378213You know how you build a good manabases? You stick to color restrictions and run basic lands.
>>98378213Should we ban board wipes because they blow out casuals for overextending with too many creatures?
>>98378213>you have to shield these Down's Syndrome players instead of expecting them to LEARN something!No
>>98378221No because not only are there too many of them to ban (just like how there are too many sol rings out there to ban it) you can win with a deck that doesnt rely on creatures>and farewell got sent to gc land which also proves my point
>>98378226I agree. They should learn to play through my Black Lotus + Triple Mox opener instead of being coddled by the banlist.
I see the blood moon cope and seethe is still strong as ever, only been 2 years.
>>98378234>false equivalenceSome cards create consistently bad game states. Blood Moon does not.
>>98378226I dont agree with it myself, but then again i'm not a fool that demands the world revolve around what i want and i know to make peace with things beyond my control
Only people who dislike blood moon play all 3c+ precon face commanders
>>98378240No one being able to play the game with lower power decks, like anon pointed out with precons being loaded with nonbasics, is infact, a bad game state
Blood Moon is retarded because silver bullet design is retardedThis is the only correct take
>>98378255Ok then why isn't it a game changer?
>>98378240There's no bad board state when the game is over on t2
>>98378259Because its MLD.Idiot.
>>98378259Whine to gavin about it, but good job conceding that bloodmoon isnt b2 appropriate
>>98378258Is Counterspell a silver bullet?
>>98378267If MLD exists to shelter precons which are bracket 2, why not make them bracket 3?
>>98378269No, retard
>>98378259worse, its banished to bracket 4you can have 1-3 game changers s in nracket 3you can't have a single mld card below bracket 4
>>98378268It's not "precon" appropriate. I would argue even bracket 2 decks that are handmade aren't precon appropriate. Realistically they should have their own wading pool tier for absolute beginners to shit themselves in.
>>98378274What's a silver bullet?
>>98377346Here, I'll keep the same format by just change who controls what. Maybe that will make more sense to you."Whenever a source you control deals damage to an opponent or permanent they control, do x"They is the same ability, but I just swapped you and your opponent. The action that triggers the ability is the same, just "controlled" by the other player.So, when does this ability trigger? Here, I'll simplify it even more."Whenever a creature you control deals damage, do x"The trigger is damage being dealt, not damage being taken. Who takes the damage is just a check as part of the trigger, not the trigger itself.
>>98378278Sorry but gavin already made his decision and his mld definition. not my problem you too dumb to snake your way into a loophole
>>98378268There are a lot of cards that aren't "b2 appropriate" that I wouldn't say are game warping like Blood Moon is. Might want to revise your point a bit.
>>98378289I'm insinuating Gavin is a retard who has been ruining the format since Arcane Signet.
>>98378290I agree, primetime and emrakul should be unbanned
>>98378295No bitch. Das a whole different sentence. wrf is you talking about?
Bracket 2 is effortless to game if you want to win. Quite fittingly it's the ultimate bracket for mono green decks to win. Just ramp each turn under the guise that you aren't expected to lose until turn 8, then at 10+ lands just start deploying threats. Guaranteed to slaughter every precon in existence within the rules.
>>98378305>the guy who wants blood moon legal is afraid of primetime and emrakulKek you are a funny moron
>>98378309Prime Time is far more threatening to an actual casual game than Blood Moon.
>>98378309You are schizoing an entire conversation in your head, and it's not even a good one.Blood Moon = Slows your opponentsEmrakul/Prime Time = Actively winAny questions?
>>98378306Voltron is still allowed to kill one guy at a time fyi
Is Authority of the Consuls MLD because of Earthbending?
>>98378286Very simply put: either the judge is retarded for interpriting the card wrong, or the designers are retarded for writing the ability in a bad way. If they wannted it to trigger on damage dealt, it should be "whenever you or a permanent you control is dealt damage by a source and opponent controls, do x"
>>98378319Constant Mists
>>98378314>>98378318>the people that want a card that nerfs nonbasics is afraid of a creature that fetches nonbasicsBwahahhahaha
>>98378326Rest in Peace
>>98378333>I'm a big retard who comes onto /edhg/ every day to post Toski and act like a clown
>>98378340>toski out of nowhereRan out of braincells i seeConcession accepted
>>98378326
>>98378344Didn't deny it.
>>98378347I dont deny your concession correct
>>98378338In bracket 2? lol
>>98378345This guy won me the EoE prerelease so hard.
>>98378345>It's another "some 10 year old's custom card except real" card
>>98376848>>98377134In my old playgroup we played this loads, everyone slotted one in most of their decks and therefore it came out most games. We had an informal rule that it was rude not to pass it on, and we called it "Bucking the Nards".Only after many months of using it did we realise we were passing it to the left, i.e. the next player, when specified to pass to the right (understandably so). We house ruled to keep passing to the left.
>>98378350You conceded your marriage to your wife's boyfriend lol.
>>98378361Ok tranny
>>98378364Did I strike a nerve?
>>98378379Unlike me you wouldnt have any nerves left in your axe wound
>>98378333Two nonbasics every turn is worse than Blood Moon you stupid faggot.Do you even play the game or just use this board as a substitute for not having a social life?
>>98378387Weird projection on your part.
>>98378389I dunno about you but little timmy not being able to play the game and is forced to watch you durdle is a lot worse than primetime ending the game swiftly and mercifully
>>98378398Shit you're right. The game has to end asap!>casts thoracle>trigger on the stack demonic consultationWhew, there. I saved Timmy from having to play basic lands guys.
>>98378397But enough about your toski obsession
>>98378398So let's ban board wipes too by that logic.
>>98376066>the Impenetrable>dies from penetrated?
>>98378405It's actually jace wielder of mysteries
15 years ago I ran Brittle Effigy and Duplicant and All Is Dust to counteract the Iona in my playgroup. Timmy can replace his precon's taplands with basics and learn the joys of rock ramp.
>>98378408If I was wrong you wouldn't have gotten butthurt, faggoroni.
>>98378410>>98378232
>>98378415The name means he does the penetration.
>>98378422i'm not the one butthurt that blood moon can't be used in timmy pods though?
>>98377366That guy looks like he goes infinite by accident half the time you play him. What the fuck kind of ability is this.
>>98378232>just like sol ringlmao it's literally one card. If you mean fast mana, there are like 5 cards.
>>98378424That's not an argument because instead of banning individual ones you can just ban MCD (Mass Creature Destruction) categorically, just like how "fast" 2-card combos are banned even though there's probably hundreds of those.
>>98378433And I'm not the uptalking nogames.
>>98378437you "could", except gavin won't, only fools can't accept that he is the defacto handler of edh now, cry a river to him whydontcha
>>98377603>bro I just warped in a blightsteel and killed you turn 4 why are you madhe's sneak attack in the command zone. >>98377645>cheats out shit quickly>TECHNICALLY I IGNORE HALF THE REQUIREMENTS OF BRACKET DEFINITIONS SO MY ANUS IS CORRECTI honestly just want to break peoples legs that do this. 'teehee its a bracket 2 or 3' :)oh oops my deck never wins on turn 3! wow moxfield says it a bracket 2!!!>>98378434It's the kind of ability you don't let resolve, he's a nightmare, but building him like dinosaurs with the smaller eldrazi instead of the insane 'exile and sacrifice' all of your shit abilities or using flash.
>>98378436it's about the massive printed sol rings in circulation not the number of sol ring expies you retard
>>98378447>The rules are perfect and never change!>But please unban Primetime and let me use hybrid mana!
>>98378450just say you want voltron and infect to banned you don't have to be so longwinded like a woman
>Cast goldvein hydra from exile for 7. >Wild-magic sorcerer is on the battlefieldDo I cascade for 7, or 1? This maybe be a simple question. but I am a dumb man.
>>98378458whatever gavin says goes, cry more about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ah... another great episode of /edhg/, where the arguments come down to "retard" "I accept your concession"
>>98378075>people will not run enough landsI'm one of those people, I feel physical pain when I have to go above 38 even in mana heavy decks and will average 37I just want more gas in my decks, man
do you guys like blinking ? what is your favorite commander for blink decks?
>>98378463You have no actual argument.
>>98378462Mana value is 7 on the stack so 7
>>98378462if X=7 then you cascade for 8; X spells count the X value into their total mana value when you cast them
>>98378470and you can't accept that a crossdressing faggot has more power than you kek
>>98378481You really are mindbroken.Do you stay home from commander nights to fap to "she-male" porn?
>>98378459what are you babbling about schizo
>>98378477>>98378476That's what I thought, but I've been wrong with rulings before.
>>98378483but enough about you fapping to the idea of blood moon finally getting out of jail one day lol
>>98378488>blightsteel colossus badi already know all i need to know about you
>>98378499fuck off retardhttps://archidekt.com/decks/23015043/flurbo
>>98378490>Squirrel-obsessed autismo that keeps bringing up troons that was also mindraped by gay Bolas keeps wanting to talk about sex with dudesNobody is interested in your autogynephilia projections
>>98378464You forgot "jew" "pedophile" and "tranny"
>>98378507sure senpaii whatever you say>continues to play greedy manabases unobstructed as gavin intended
Reminder that if you support UB, you're siding with Hitler himself.
>>98378527>I know I'm wrong, but I'm going to try to be annoying anyway!
>>98378546As much as I love Binding of Isaac, half the cards being disgusting body parts and creatures and the other half being just disgusting is a big no from me
>>98378464I'm retarded and I do not accept your concession, argue with me more
>>98378565reminder that you're annoyed precisely because i'm right and you can never use blood moon in timmy pods ever again
>>98378546Fuck a Secret Lair give me an Isaac UB set>poop creature type>fart themed red instant>ipecac as an aura enchantment or equipment Would perfectly encapsulate the state of the game
>>98378575Well, no, you're wrong, and rules change. So... uh... go get laid and stop being a faggot.
>>98378451Why dies that matter? Do you think they couldn't ban giant growth? It has 20 prints in just sets alone, not including supplemental products.The reason they don't ban sol ring is because it's in every precon. That's it. By all rights it absolutely should be banned, but because it's in every precon, and they want precons to be playable out of the box no matter how old they are, and don't want to make a rule like "unaltered precons are b2/3 regardless of their content", it isn't and never will be.
>>98378469Mr. ETB
>>98378562Not only these bastards didn't fix the art and make him white, now they tripled down and also made Arwen fat. I swear I hate these animals with every fiber of my being.
>>98378614I would play this if it weren't a gay horse. As it stands Brago is cooler and more effective.
>>98378622This is why we proxy.
>>98378636Fair. My buddy has a Brago deck, though. Also he goes infinite with picrel
>>98378654Fucking hell, just looked closer at this. Total slop. Didn't even bother to clean it up at all. Nonetheless.
>>98378462If you mean X = 7 then 8 because you spent that much mana and X spells have mana value of the total mana you spent while they're on the stack. If you meant you SPENT 7 mana (x=6) then yes you cascade for until you hit mana value <= 7. If you cast doppelgang from exile for X=5 you would cascade for 17 for example>>98378622>malding chud seething so hard it can barely get a sentence outIt would be less embarrassing if you were ESL
>>98378663You could always just build your Brago differently. Make it some terrible piece of shit constellation deck for example. The man can blink nonland permanents after all.
>>98378469Really been enjoying foundations Kykar as a spellslinger blink control deck centered around archeomancer style creatures.
>>98378415The name is a challenge. An invitation.
>>98378679Naw, I'm good with gay horse. It's built, has been for a long time. I also just like that his name is E.T.B.. It's fun, a bit stong, actually. I also already have a WU deck. I have every color now, actually, but I'm looking to replace my esper and red decks cause they jsut aren't really fun. One is too fast and the other is Zur, so tutoring, which I hate. I originally made it to counter my buddy's Uril deck, but have aince realised it's really just not fun, even if it is a great voltron counter.
>>98378469Fortune Loyal Steed as a secret commander in Caradora
>Buy divine visitation for my Anim Pakal deck.>The next day read all the spoilers and learned about the redhoofDamn it. Not like it was a lot of money, but still annoying.
>>98378717Do you think redhoof isn't gonna cost a fortune when it comes out?
>>98378722I think it's going to crash in price after people play with it and realize it's not good, like the FF cactus.
>>98378722I imagine after the dust settles it will be at most 10 dollars, but over all its just better for anim.
>>98378730I don't think it's going to be amazing but it fits an actual niche that isn't a total gimmick unlike Jumbo Cactuar. Craterhoof that cares about how many treasures you control in the "make treasures" color is good and helps you close the game and at mythic it means supply will be low.>>98378738For sure but it's not like divine visitation is bad for your deck either but there is anti synergy between the two ig
>>98378608>no silly they didn't keep sol ring legal because they printed it too much>they keep sol ring legal because they printed it too much ON PRECONSlol
>>98378717That's up there for most cringe flavor text
>>98378815>"grrrrrrr this flavor text is so cringe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!">look at flavor text>harmless joke
>>98378654>>98378667>as their finger fuse together and their eyes melt into their own faces, those things hanging from her crown/garland are desperately trying to become a tied-off condom belt
>>98378843It is cringe, just like you, nigger.
>>98378352why not? you think nobody will abuse the fact that t1 entomb t2 reanimate jn gitaxias is legal in b2?
>>98378875You're a joyless faggot and you need to kill yourself
>tq>card says "Legendary Planeswalker" on type line>look inside>1/1 insect>>98378815This is up there for most cringe /tg/ post
>>98378891>He's a fag on top of being a cringe niggaTake your own advice
>>98378921>projectingNow you really need to kill yourselfUnironically
>>98378929I think it's funny how Birds are one of the game's oldest tribes and yet they've only been getting decent cards recently
>>98378929Why didn't they just fly Frodo to Mordor? Is Gandalf stupid?
>>98378967Did you miss the giant flying shit that the leader of the ring wraiths was flying around on in the third movie?
>>98376066>look mom I defaced le OP with advertisements for my gay furry porn commissions again xDDDDFake thread, not /tg/, shan't use.
>>98378983How much does it cost to commission a set from WotC? Asking for a friend.
>>98378977>giant flying shitI think it was some kind of dragon monster, actually
>>98378929You can't just make cost reduction mechanics that belong in green blue because you put flying in the text somewhere.
Alright, I am completely retarded when it comes to comprehending the bracket system.What bracket would this deck of mine be??Be free to call the deck retarded, I am still fairly new to the game.https://moxfield.com/decks/eComfXTU_E-Pw9Je41AedQ
>>98379119it's b2
>>98379119This site isn't 100% accurate, but its a good enough place to get a baseline.https://www.commandersalt.com/
How do I play Stax effective enough that I'm slowing everyone else's down an appreciable amount so they're not just infinite comboing off on Turn 6 but also not going full retard shit like Grand Arbiter, Dovin, Humility and getting myself liable to be punched in the face
>>98379140>recommending inane ai slop to a newcomerlmao
>>98379155Stax is just an archetype that will make people want to punch you in the face. That's just something you're going to have to live with if you want to play it.
>>98379159>Don't use a tool to do exactly what you're asking for.Its okay to be retarded, but you should keep it to yourself.
>>98379155vexing baublehttps://scryfall.com/search?q=oracletag%3Adraw-hate&order=edhrec
>>98378929And they say they don't design for Standard anymore.
>>98379155stax harder, permanent/spell type less taxed so you can split under and do your win. Halting 3 players to effectively empty/useless hands through grind is borderline impossible with how many more effects keep going off that give shit for free
>>98379199Oh they design for Standard alrightStandard is a pile of shit and vomit format and all the cards they design are shit and vomit cards
>>98379155Play shit that only really hurts people trying to do degenerate shit. Trinisphere, 'one spell per turn' cards and other similar effects disproportionately fuck over the people who are trying to do combo shit and lets Timmy proceed more or less unimpeded. Cards like Spirit of the Labyrinth and similar 'stop multiple draws' also work well but more decks will be impacted by it. I personally think Tanglewire does a fantastic job of slowing down the game without being oppressive because it's obviously temporary but the retards at my LGS often whine about that too. Similarly, Aura of Silence does great work at slowing down artifact combos and is also a silver bullet to remove something when you really need to, but it also gets people bitching at you despite being an innocuous card.
>>98379140All my decks land in the 7-8.5 range, and they're all B3. Should I be interpreting this as a good or bad thing?
>>98379231Again, take it with a grain of salt, but it implies your decks punch a little above their weight class, and that's fine.
>>98378622Stop buying UB. Shame others for playing the cards. Call them gay, woke, slop. Problems solved.
>>983791191 or 2Brackets are designed as suggestions not as hard limits so if you find yourself comboing out quickly with backup but it technically fits into bracket 3 for instance thats a bracket 4 deck.
>>98379234What I find funny is my Krenko deck is an 8.5, and it's made on a $100 budget. Nothing fancy in it like Sharpshooter, Purph, Deflecting Swat, or so on.
>>98379253Because, contrary to popular belief, you don't need to spend $500+ on a good/competitive deck. Hell, you could build a $15 Winota deck right now that'll destroy the rest of the table quite effortlessly
>>98379140This is a pretty good site, but the power level heavily relies on game changers and fast mana for power levels. it doesn't accurately take into account synergies and other things.I have decks that it underrates because they don't have all the modal lands fast mana like the moxes, and have it overrated other decks that are made for 1v1 that have 4 game changes and lots of salt, but would get decimated in a 4 player pod against bracket 1-2s, but it thinks it's a 7-8. It's a good site but it's not gospel.
>>98379278you're correct but I also doubt an online calculator has the nuance to accurately rate a winota deck
>>98379288>good site but it's not gospel.I did say its wasn't 100% accurate, but just a good use for a baseline.
Noob here.How exactly do the commanders in this deck work? They don't say partner, so do you just choose which of them is going to be your commander each time you start the game and shuffle the rest in? Doesn't that break the commander rule that the cards in your deck are limited to the colors that your commander has?
>>98379303pips in the rules text count as color identityalso gtfo out of this format, we dont need your newfag UB shit clogging our drains
>>98379229Nta but i did not know tangle wire was a card, I actually am kind of in a similar boat in the sense of i want to slow the game down a bit but not to the point of stax levels, so that's a cool card to add to my to-do
>>98379303reed sue ben and johnny are individual cards but there's also a single F4 as a team card thats white blue red green that is presumably the commander
>>98379303They can each be the commander, due to the color pips in their rules text.>>98379320All 4 of them are WUBRG.
>>98379303There's one card that's all of the four together that's your commander, and then individual versions of them that are part of the 99
>>98379312we don't want undesirables from a dead thread here
>>98379312the other thread told me to come here. >>98379282>>98379320>>98379338That card isn't in this deck. I looked up the decklist.
>>98379237Go back to your containment thread crybaby
>>98379360Ah never mind it's Sue with her ability effect that's your commander in the precon
>>98379360Ignore them. Commander has color identity based on their cast cost AND any other color pips on the card (barring a few exceptions). For example, Johnny is a red creature, BUT he has WUBG in his rules, so he's a 5 color commander.>>98379375All 4 of the fantastic 4 can be the commander. It's actually a pretty cool deck since it can flex between draw (reed), voltron (johnny), and so on.
>>98379396Just for the sake of an example, I couldn't use this card in a black and blue deck because of the white mana ability then?https://scryfall.com/card/woe/288/devouring-sugarmaw-have-for-dinner
>>98379415Correct. That's precisely how it works. There are a few exceptions, like the Extort reminder text on Crypt Ghast. That one is an outlier though.
>>98379415>because of the white mana ability then?That's actually a spell, but yes. That card's color identity is black/white
>>98379425Alright then, thank you for clearing that up. Have a camel.
>>98379360>didnt read the post about color identity >no i totally belong herekick rocks
>>98379464I was just replying to the post. I didn't say I didn't read it it over there.
>>98378271they hated him because he spoke the truth
>>98378463this is what demoralization does to a nigga
>>98379303Just know you are effectively showing up to the ren faire in a startrek uniform by playing the universes beyond slop.
>>98379519No one cares fantasyfag. Cry elsewhere
>>98379519Buddy, UB stuff outnumbers in universe releases; you guys are the weird outliers. Everyone laughs behind your back when you bust out some Unc slop commander
>>98379519Eh, some UB is fine. I can tolerate stuff like LOTR where it's rooted in fantasy. My gripe is wacky stuff like Trek, Spiderman, and so on.
>>98379519>Muh TolkienI don't like fantasy
>>98379545>plays fantasy game>WAAAAAAAH I DONT LIKE FAMTASY!!!!!!!!!Commander sucks cause this is the person WOTC is trying to cater to
>>98379519>here's that mature dark fantasy game I was telling you about
>>98379530To the extent that MTG is cool it is because it has a great rules set and sits gently just outside of strict fantasyUb doesnt fit nicely into the color pie and rarely fits on the narrow part of the spectrum of fantasy and scifi that MTG has been able to exist in and theres no amount of coping that can change that.
>>98379551This didn't happen btw
>>98379560I ain't reading thatI'm happy for youOr sorry that happened
Anti-UB pissbabies are genuinely some of the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet lmao imagine continuing to engage with (and pay for) a game that's committed to doing something you hate and which 99% of the player base doesn't care about.
>>98379554Aetherdrift is UB
>>98379510but enough about anti-ub tards that can't keep their thread alive
>>98379605>ninja turtles have no place in magic UB is ruining the serious fantasy atmosphere of magic the gathering!
>>98379621Kappas are a real thing in Japanese folklore you actual, literal baboon
honorary UW:>LotR>FFdishonorary UB:>thunder junction >duskmourne>aetherdrift>edge of eternity
>>98379655Nice gay and wrong opinions.
>>98379621I'm praying the new Kamigawa set will give us giant fucking robots and kaiju.
>>98379669Given Wizard's track record with Kaijus, it's going to be a bait and switch
>>98379673Please I beg you. Just give me giant artifact robots and kaiju. FOR FUCKS SAKE DON'T MAKE THE ROBOTS VEHICLES
>>98378161This would ruin my soft landstax yurlok deck so fuck you retard
>>98379637Ah yes, Japanese folklore, which is rife with tales like how Momotaro defeated giant rats in race using his cyberpunk neon laser SciFi bike.
>>98379706she cute :>
>>98379695>thinks a design team obsessed with shoving vehicleslop into every goddamn set won't push more vehicleslop in a mecha-themed set
Fuck all the talk of UW/UB. Where's the new Eldrazi and Slivers?
>>98379737In gaybaby jail, where they belong.
>>98379737Eldrazi and Slivers are the most slop in universe archetypes
>>98379741>>98379743Well fuck you I like both of them.
>>98378796>because they printed it in every preconvs>there are too many in circulation
Greasefang and Rip WBGLegendary Creature - Human Rat PilotAt the beginning of combat on your turn, mill cards equal to {this}'s power. Return a vehicle from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. At the beginning of your post-combat main phase, if this is tapped, return any number of vehicles from your graveyard or battlefield with different powers to their owner's hand.4/3
>>98379736Can we at least get a better Mechtitan?
>>98379655>MKM gets UW label solely by being on Ravnica
>>98379736Just make more Station artifacts for the love of god
>>98379655>FF
>>98379747How viable could a Slivdrazi Rukarumel deck potentially be??
>>98379655>hating EoEfag
>>98379848
>>98379655No. There is no honorary UW, only dishonorary UB, and you forgot MKM and NEO.
>>98379808if wotc overprinted a busted they overprinted a busted card, it doesn't matter where they did it
>>98379870Personally I like the implication that if WotC's reprint policy wasn't total shit then Black Lotus would still be legal because there's too many in circulation for them to ban.
>>98379870>>98379877It's a catch-22>No they can't ban this card it's $10000>No they can't ban this card too many people have it
>>98379855Incredibly janky. What we need is pic related to be real instead of a MB joke card.
>>98379870False. They could easily ban a card that had a dozen set reprints two decades ago. They can not ban sol ring because it would make every precon illegal. They could if they said "but precons are fine" as a rule, but they won't.
>>98379948WHERE IS THE RHYSTIC STUDY BAN GAVIN
>>98379910They recently banned a 2000 dollar card btw
>>98379960Which fucking one???
>>98379910>no they can't ban a non-ante card out of every single format because doing so is bad for businessit's not that complicated and this is why jewlotus will eventually be a GC
>>98379965mana crypt will eventually be a GC too
>>98379957You dare suggest we trod on the corpse of Sheldon?!
>>98379984That didn't answer the question. Which 1000 dollar card was banned
>>98380000Candelabra
>>98380000>quads and you didn't even realize the other anon was referring to mana crypt
>>98380000He's being a gigantic retard and counting ultra rare special editions
>>98379965This was banned in legacy.Current price: 2475
Reminder that because wotc got sued by some faggot about reprint sets, we're not going to get them for a long time. We've been swindled out of Mirrodin Remastered which would have been, by far, the hottest reprint set of all time
>>98380023I doubt they care about a fake lawsuit desu
>>98380008>Mana crypt was 1000 dollar cardRetard.That's like saying every island is a 700 dollar card.
>>98380029Their legal department does and wotc is the only thing keep hasbeen afloat.
>>98380015Oh noooooo the game mode where only super rich ultra losers play? Gosh I'm so worried about Legacy in a fucking EDH thread. Now come back when they ban something like that in our format, dipshit
>>98380042The logic doesn't follow. The argument was that wotc won't ban expensive ass cards. They just did.Unless we are goalpost moving to "They won't ban expensive cards IN COMMANDER"
Anything worth keeping in the sideboard? I think this deck is done for nowhttps://moxfield.com/decks/VSHl8VB4R0GOMrMFW18YCQ
>>98378944That's a weird way to do catch-up ramp.
>>98380042power nine has been banned in commander from the get-go and they're way more expensive than candelabra
>>98380052It's pretty sick for 2 mana in generally safest card type ngl
>>98380023I'm still waiting for the day we get the nuclear option of reprinting the RL, or making them inferior.>Super Duals that give you 1 health on ETB, identical to OG duals otherwise>Blackhole Lotus, get 4 mana >The Third Crusade
>>98380062There are so many good duals in the game now it just kinda doesn't matter anymore whether they get reprinted or not. wotc isnt gonna reprint the RL until hasbro clues into the fact it'll make them billions
>>98380062Nothing stops you from using super duals and true duals together for your manabase.
>>98380060>generally safest card typeEnchantment? Safest?? Land is safest, then artifact is next. Everyone packs enchantment removal nowadays, stuff never sticks anymore
Speaking of duals, how cringe is it to chang bootleg duals? I'm not too keen on paying that much for cardboard.
>>98380053>from the get-goYes congrats you understand the dilemma here. Now go back and understand why your post is irrelevant
>>98380101Putting it in a cedh or b4 deck? Whatever man, sky's the limitPutting it in your random b2 deck because your brain itches uncontrollably if you're doing something suboptimal, even when the stakes don't call for optimality? Kill that part of your brain and stop doing that, its cringe.
>>98380062>>Blackhole Lotus, get 4 manaThis would be an uncard and it would require you to exile itself and a planet/spacecraft
>>98380101Why pay chang at all, just write "volcanic island" on a swamp.You're not some kind of faggot desperate to deceive people that you own cards you don't, are you?
>>98380101What >>98380116 said exactly.
>>98380135I too enjoy trying to figure out what's going on with someone's deck when everything looks the same with some badly written words in smudged sharpie on it.
>>98380149Tbf, i'd almost rather deal with a sharpie deck than someone running majority secret lair shit where the text is spread randomly over the card
>>98380149Its literally free information to ask what a card is, or to get your fat ass up and waddle over and look yourself.
>>98380101You don't need true duals anymore. There are enough good dual lands out there now.
>>98379519Exactly. He'll he the cool guy of the group.
>>98380149Just paint the swamp half red and half blue and then write volcanic island on it
>>98380149What are you seven? If block print the letters if your handwriting is that fucking bad.
>>98379519>slopWhat cool person did you get that opinion from? Clear you can not think for yourself.
>>98380135I am pro-proxy but anti "le scribble the name down on a basic"
>>98379695Unfortunately I think Shorikai is a good example of how they'll probably handle it. A big vehicle with some effects regardless of if it's a vehicle or creature. At most maybe they'll introduce new pilot types that can pilot vehicles with increased stats or something.
>>98380161Ugh! But I can't fetch those!Gross! 0/10, would not include in deck.
Titanbreach hell mode predictions:Meld VehiclesSplice onto MutateA new pilot token type
>>98380149>needing to read the text for an OG dualAre you an imbecile or something
>>98380202btw I wrote "THE SEVENTH DOCTOR" on a card. No, I will not explain to you what it does. You should just know
>>98380161whoa shit how did I miss these? What's the nickname they're using?
>>98380192Please just more/better mutate support. I've wanted to make a mutate deck for so long but there's not enough good cards to make it work
>>98380183They just printed new typed duals with strixhaven
>>98380214Did we tell you to sharpie proxy the seventh doctor? No? What did we tell you to sharpie proxy?
>>98380179Then you aren't pro-proxy, because that is a proxy.
>>98380192>Meld MechsHonestly a meld Voltron/megazord mech vs a meld zilortha would be awesome
>>98379957There is no precedent for such a ban. There is for fast mana. Alas.
>>98380258Black and white thinking is an indication of borderline personality disorder.
>>98379957>Friends, after dropping 500+ dollars on copies for all their faggot decks said they wouldn't adhere to the ban if it happened because, they paid for a card so they should be able to use it!I bought a griselbrand. I'm sure you'll love to see if it a rhystic ban ever happens.
>>98380362>I'm pro-choice, but only if you tell me what color it isNo. While that may make you based, it also don't make you not a hypocrite. Sharpie, chang, ai coom. A proxy is a proxy.
>>98380363>tfw your boy Sundering is still banned
>>98380384You should consider talking to a therapist. Or maybe a doctor if you're this retarded.
>>98380388That's not an argument. People do not need to adhere to your autism. A sharpie proxy is as fine as any other.
How do I stop my sleeved deck from sliding all over the place
>>98380397Shuffle, and then shuffle some more. Sleeves are slippery at first.
>>98380397eat greasy pizza and swipe your ass crack and then dont wash your hands
>>98380395Our autism. Slip of printer paper in the sleeve with a junk common is fine.Now buy a fucking ad.
She's never getting unbanned, is she?
>>98380465She was specifically named as a card they were looking to unban on the last ban update.
>>98380465Not as long as Painter's Servant stays unbanned.
>>98380465She should be bracket 4 only.
>>98380433>Our autism>Appeal to majority fallacy You already lost the argument, why are you still going?>Buy an adFor what? I'm supporting spending 0 money for proxies. You really are an idiot.
>>98380192It's going to be channel and vehicles again with nothing interesting.
>>98380465>>98380475I can't believe this was one of the cards they were considering unbanning, but along with Griselband, and Sundering Titan. Cards that totally can hose one player, cause a huge resource imbalance or just win you the game on the spot with one card, but Rofellos, which only benefits mono-green decks, which are already at a disadvantage, is too strong to consider unbanning. FUCK WOTC.
>>98380494Lingering PTSD from 2011 where he was strong enough to dare contest the blue agenda.
>iona, sundering, prime time, and the gay elf>no one mentions mommy emrakul
Free it
>>98380503I still don't understand why she's banned. The only thing I can think of is "infinite mana, saccing her over and over to cast over and over for infinite turns" but then why the fuck wouldn't you just play whatever X spell at that point?
>>98380524>>98380524>>98380524
>>98380517Back when Sheldor was in charge, the banlist was a LOT more "Vibes" based. Sure, they put cards on that were absolutely fucking problems, but there were also a good number of cards that did or didn't get put on there because the RC felt/didn't fell they were banworthy. Emrakul and worldfire are two such examples of the former, and for like, a year and a fucking half Prophet of Krupix was the latter.
