Cathayan Stormcast edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98379652>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread Questions:1) Now that the dust has settled, which stormcast iteration has been your favourite so far?2) What, if anything, do you hope they do with them aesthetically in the inevitable 5th edition wave?
>>98389408Whatever these guys were part of
>>98389421>nightmare questit all went downhill from here
Wtf is wrong with mold lines onthe Blackpowder kit? I feellike i'm assembling old grve guard agian with those outlines.Was this the case originally or did they fuck something up with the UW2e re-releas?
>>98389441It was hype as fuck as a FEC player though.
>>98389439Crazy tht there is no balista in the book right now. But the lord engineer guy is the sort of "random foot hero" releas and not a proper starter army material
>>98389408It's a Nipponese Stormcast anon
>>98389421at least skaven got their warband in the end
>>98389408>tqthe stormcast defenders are probably the best SCE minis ever made, next to the first knight questor of course. I hope the anihilators lose their weird collar thing in the next version of a stormcast heavy unit.
>>98389667what the fuck is a defender?Are you talking about paladins? I do like those guys
>>98389441Why did Warcry fail so hard? Was it the fact that the nuked half the warbands?
>>98389761They made spearhead to replace it retad. They don't need competing products. Especially when 1 is much better at moving old stock
>>98389775You didn't have to call me retard, nigger.
>>98389782I actully called you a retad to not hurt your fragile feelings, but apparently it wans't enough.Your mom should come over to pick you up soon
>>98389761diminishing value per box
>>98389775doesn't really feel like spearhead and warcry compete much, at least in my experience. If anything, spearhead's main competition is AoS proper.
>>98389688sorry, i meant the paladins with spears / protectors, my bad. their spears are great and their rules were cool.
>>98389844Spearhead and warcry are both "buy 1 box and play" games. Except Spearhead naturally sells unused AoS stock while Warcry demands dedicated kits they often don't know what to do with afterwards.They tried selling oS kits through Warcry, but it apparently didn't work well enough, mostly because you're limited on what can be in it
>>98389876warcry was originally supposed to be gladiatorial "teams" themed after the eight realms going at it (which you can still see in the design of the original warbands, e.g. iron golems are from chamon, cypher lords are from hys, ...) before it got refurbished to include all kinds of chaos warbands, then non-chaos warbands, and then also be basically another way to introduce standard refreshes outside of gw's normal schedule like kill team does for 40k Prime example being the gorgers.
>>98389904I know. Noting you said realy contrdicts me. It was designed to sell individual boxes of new stuff, they later tried to sell old stuff repackaged for it but it didn't work, so they mde a new game where repacks do work
Games like warcry, necromunda nad kill team make sense with terrain that comes with the teams in the big boxesRemoving terrain so you can fuck the limited customerbase without lube ruins the experience
>>98389927Yeah I just wanted to give some extra conext to what you said
>>98390109Nah, the terrain should be comprehensive and cohesive. The last Warcry batch of buy every set to have a functional table approach was pure cancer.Newbs don't want a box whose terrain is some nonsensical random pieces. Older players don't want to buy fomo boxes or scalped splits for terrain. Just sell a good core set of modular terrain.
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>>98389904>warcry was originally supposed to beExcept before it even launched they said everything would have rules. The initial releases were all chaos but that's it. There was no deliberately intention for it to be chaos only ever.
>>98390445I think the designer guy on youtube said it was intended for it to just be the realm themed teams at the start, though I think that was changed in development before the final release.
>>98390445>Except before it even launched they said everything would have rules.only after backlash
>>98390603No, in the very first instance of them ever talking about it lol
>>98390756Dios mio... la creatura de meatfist...
I wonder if gw has expanded on their playtesting team.
>>98390778>playtesting team
>>98390756>thin chincoward
>>98389408Speaking of stormcast, looks like their spearhead is no longer available on the webstore? That's the only way to get certain models like yndrasta or the vexillor iircWonder if a repackaging is on the way
>>98390904isn't Yndrasta and other exclusive mdoels fromt eh box sold as its own thing separatly? it's sjut a realy bad deal comapred to the Spearhead, jsut like buying Knight of Shrouds on horse will cost you way too fuckng much today
>>98390904Aren't Yndrasta and vexillor pretty easy to find on account on being in dominion?
>>98390917I don't think so, no. Had to get the spearhead, which is just half of dominion repackaged + the chariot.>>98390926Of course but it's more curiousity about how gw is going to sell those models from now on. I think they've always been part of one collective box or another. In all likelihood it'll just be the spearhead again but idk you never know. They've been culling quite a bit of spearheads, I think the carnosaur one is gone now too. Gloomspite only have the shitmob one, the regular one also got zapped a while back.
>>98390959>>98390926>>98390917>>98390904I could see Yndrasta getting slowly phased out, not the first or second time a character stormcast got slowly retired. It's why I am glad that I got Aventis few months back.
>>98390959I guess they will get their own boxes now. Spearhead rotation is to be expected, they have to sell new boxes. If the rules will stay then I'm more then happy that we are getting new discount boxes, even though the second or third iterations were usually not that appealing
>>98390991I would say that it is way too soon to squat Yndrasta, but GW is GW
>>98390991Sacrosanct is a bit of a special case though, they were clearly still experimenting with the stormcast look until they settled on thunderstrike.
>>98391057It's why I specified character, and not the line.
>>98391044They might just make a new standalone model for her, that isn't tied to a combined pushfit sprue. Wouldn't be an unreasonable move.
>>98391072Right, but aventis or whats-her-name being phased out has more to do with them being part of sacrosanct than anything else. I don't think yndrasta has that problem.
>>98391098Fair enough.
Are DoK Dr Congo coded?
>>98391307>The guy going in the pot is missing his assYeeeeeouch
>>98391321Morga >>98390756 got to him first
You reckon we’ll see beasts of chaos get a week dedicated to their art over the games span or whatever from warcom
>>98391365lollmao
>>98391365how many factions are left? guessing they're gonna drop news of the end of edition campaign book or TLW.>>98391057>>98391044i make it a personal point to inform people getting into aos that their models could have a lifespan of less than half a decade, regardless of what faction it is. Not to dissuade people from getting into the game but it's an incredibly shitty practice from GW and should be made known more often.
>>98391416Not to excuse gw here but stormcast are a bit of a special case. Usually when gw cancels a new kit like that it actually just means it's getting a refresh (tyrant, wight king, ...), in which case who cares you can still use your old model.Stormcast are a bit problematic though, as far as we can tell they're going to keep being in starter sets which means they will keep bloating which means they will keep getting periodically culled...I guess with 5th edition they can just redo all the remaining fatcast stuff (vanguard & extremis) in thunderstrike so you wouldn't have to cut any warscrolls, but after that they better figure something out. Hell they're even squatting some of the primaris marine stuff now, and those guys have 10x the customer base stormies have.
>elden ring uses 'maliketh'>warhammer uses malerion because..... ummm... marvel studiosIsn't Malikith/maliketh from swedish myth of somethinghttps://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Maliketh,+the+Black+Blade
>>98391777It's a throne name. In the past kings, especially ancient ones, would change their name upon taking the throne (Or occasionally just whenever during their reign). He was Malekith before becoming the Phoenix king, and now that he is, he's Malerion, which is a halfway between his original name, and the name of his father/the last legitimate phoenix king. Notable examples of this phenomenon in history include literally almost every Roman Emperor.
>>98391777>>98391812They're all allusions to Malkuth, the tenth kabbalistic sefirot of the unbreakable Law
>>98391812it would be cool if they had this exact lore and would make it not-cringe but I've never seen this in any AoS materials on Male-whatever and his shadow elves.Incidentally, making Daughters of Khaine rivals of shadow elves was a mistake, because otherwise they could just be subfactions of the malekith-morathi pantheon.
>>98389608Artist?
>>98389542bottom middle dude is slaying it.
>>98391857dok will be a subfaction of the shadow elves, that's without question
>>98392095Other way around
>>98392112shadow elves will be the army dok will be a subfaction for, that's without question
>they’re not expecting a Orruk warclans situation Ngmi
>>98392095how did you come to this conclusion?
>>98391321kek
>>98392032You expect GW to credit Battletome illustrations?
>>98392919Rumourmongers implied itIt's also just kind of a given seeing how many kits DoK have
>>98393373There's 0 rumours about further elfshit
>>98393377? Why argue about things you don't know anything about? What's the point?
>>98391777>fromslopCould not care less tbqh
>>98393451Idk you tell me why you're making shit up
Does anyone else before they game hit the gym, pop 20mg of Cialis and 2* double espressos?
>>98392919how do you come to any other conclusion?rumormongers said it, the fluff says it, dok as a range is shit and doesn't sell alone.
>>98393461Pre-workout with 320mg of Caffeine, Gym, 400mg of caffeine and gaming in that order.
>>98393461>>98393472Just do heroine. Russian warhamer scene works on it since the 90s
>>98391812No, it's a retcon because GW are touchy pussies obsessed with everything being legally distinct to the point they would sincerely rather call something Soulmurder Slaughterbeings than anything sane.
>>98393497No retard, it was retconed because a court ordered them after they lost to Disney lawyers
>>98393472Based>>98393483Heroin is for degenerates
>>98393460You can just go to the tga rumour list and see how you're wrong in 30 seconds.
>>98393506Healthier than plastic glue
>>98393497TOW has the generic nomenclature. They want you to Google orruk minis and only see GW and orc minis to only see more GW >>98393502No, it wasn't prompted by anything GW just realised it wasn't trademarked
>>98391057>GUYS THIS TIME THEY WILL STOP SQUATTING STUFF IM TELLING YOU! I've heard this before... SCE for 5th means the bloat train never stops, which means the limited capacity of their warehouses will necessitate pruning and their profit margins grow accordingly so there is zero reason not to
>>98393592like has been discussed above, if they replace current remaining fatcast stuff then they wouldn't have to bloat things in 5th. If they're still doing stormies in the starter in 6th though, yeah they'll probably cut the fat once more.Yndrasta's biggest problem is that she doesn't have her own sprue. She shares it with the vexillor and 3 annihilators which is pretty awkward.
>>98393614They've always sold awkward bundles like that easily as online only releases, it's just an issue of how frequently they're purchased - which must be low given the difficult pitch. Like Radukar's Court. No one wants to drop £100~ for one hero they'd like.
It's over half a meter tall
>>98393659Kinda useless as a proxy then
>>98393461I can understand the caffeine but what's the reason for taking cialis
how will GW justify AoS when everyone 3D Prints such high quality miniatures instead of plastic? first HoH flopped and now Ogres?
>>98393659The flaming effects kinda ruin it for me. They peaked with the gloomspite stuff imo. >>98393668I kneel
>>98393668Legion status?
>>98393683Grows
>>98393510but theres nothing about them?? you gotta be one of those tga rumormonger worshipers who track every emoji use, invent your own shit based on them and then spread them as facts
>>98389844I think they meant for spearhead to replace Warcry. The problem was 4.0 is so bad that people mostly just play spearhead instead, leading to the perception that it competes and wins against AoS proper. When in reality it’s just the base game currently being unfun and spearhead being fun.
>>98393745Anon, the dude who quite literally leaked pictures of a bunch of CoS and ogre stuff said they were coming soon. They're coming. Cope about it if you must, but don't pretend like your opinion is valuable on the matter.
>>98393753Post it then
>>98393753so wheres the rumor, hm? not in tga. cite it
Are there any practices in the mortal realms that demand for men to lose their foreskin
>>98393819No, everyone has a normal penis
>>98393795>>98393809Sure: https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/22826-the-rumour-thread/?page=7900#comment-753583He edits the posts after but if you follow the conversation some guy asks for more malerion/dok soup rumours and he replies "soon" which is saved in the quote.There's also this post by whitefang, which is admittedly less clear cut but imo also hints at malerion coming soon™
>>98393823Given AoS is a shithole I presume it's more common
>>98393842can you fuck off back to your dead general already
>>98393827and these are hard facts that literally shadow elves are coming and dok will be souped with them, in your mind? jesus christ.....
>>98393542I don't snort plastic glue>>98393667Helps focus me, gets me hyped and aggressive too.
>>98393854We all do
>>98393848>leakers didn't say any of that!>they did? No I don't believe you!>uhhh proof? Do you have proof he said soon? Huh?>okay you do but it doesn't count!What the fuck were you expecting, a signed statement by kevin rountree himself? I remember you people coping about chorfs too.
>>98393848what hard fact do you have about the worst selling range staying as its own book of snake whores?
>>98393906I feel like slaanesh and fyreslayers have them beat in that regard.But yeah fyreslayers/khazalid will probably be a good template for how they decide to handle dok+ulgurothi in the future.
>>98393906im not opposed to to the idea in general, im opposed to the fucking dumb shits who see supervague replies and react emojis by rumormongers that could be anything even in context and then extrapolate wildly biased shit out of them, then insist their interpretations as "without a doubt" facts at every opportunity like some annoying mosquitosalso your reply is pretty telling
>>98393952Nta but how is "soon" vague?
>>98393959"It's opppsit" isn't how you spell "soon".Besides, Kurnothi were Whitefang soon. It was a warband for UW
>>98393952>this means khainites and umbraneth stay apart>actually it's the opposite >BUT WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THAT, IT'S TOO VAGUE, OH GOD, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN?!
>>98393962...anon, please fully read that post again. The soon is coming from reformation, not whitefang.
>>98393952>then extrapolate wildly biased shit out of them, then insist their interpretations as "without a doubt" facts at every opportunity like some annoying mosquitos>also your reply is pretty tellingTell me again why you think khainites will stay a separate book, or your delusions about anon.
>>98393845AoS is a setting marked by apocalypse events and cultural collapse? Please tell me how the tribes of Aqshy formerly only existing in perpetual flight of Khornate cannibals developed sophisticated genital hygiene and sociological rituals about coming of age? Unironically neck yourself you console war piss baby. Circumcision is ubiquitous in the developing world, AoS is a a developing world outside of a handful of cities.
>>98393982demonstrating exactly whats the problem, good job!
That's a new one. It almost deserves a reply. Good job
>>98394048What do (you) think it could ever possibly realistically mean?
>>98394040aos is noblebright not grimderp none of that happens
>>98394040>cleaning your penis is sophisticated hygiene
>>98394078africans, arabs, jews, etc can't manage it
>>98394072What a lame model and character. Weird how all the generic ogres look great and all the named characters look mediocre (morga,maneater lady) to complete shit (Redd)
>>98394092please go back to your dead general
>>98394072I honestly don’t think the rhino is much of a problem. If you need more texture on the skin (assuming it’s smooth on tbe model) then put some typhus corrosion or similar on it. Otherwise it’s a painting test
>>98394092that's the end result of the normalisation of special characters: the army gets built around them, they're now present with little to no generic characters to contrast to, so they're forced to be basic to fit seamlessly and no longer allowed to be special
>>98394097>anon gives his opinion>you reply with console war shitThe lady is, in fact, lame. She needs a bigger weapon. Redd is poor because he should be on an oval base and not have two walkers alongside him
>>98394072I do like the longer reach on the glaive. Her mini-club is a bit comical, even for a ceremonial weapom.
>>98394072>separate ogres and orcs>have a decade to develop them independently from the ground up>still look redundant and almost interchange with one another
>>98394097Morga and grell being somewhat underwhelming is not a consolewar opinion anon. I do disagree about redd though he's great (even if his base should be smaller).>>98394112Ogres have been their own army from 2005 anon.
>>98394072This doesn't real work. She's chill, looking to the side, it makes no sens with a charging maunt.The generic Tyrant would fit perfectly, he's front screaming
>>98394120>Ogres have been their own army from 2005 anon.I know, learn to read
>>98394198I guess you can't count then if you think 2005 was a decade ago
>>98394217maybe I wasn't harsh enough when I told you to learn to read, because it's obvious you need to learn to fucking think in the first placedo you think gw had the opportunity to rework orcs from the ground up in 2005? no, they had that with aos
>>98394248They did and they look nothing like ogres
>>98394101I want someone to take a heated screwdriver or something and just carve scars into the rhippo.
>>98394284ngl a tyrant or hunter would look good on a sludgeraker
AoS actually made Orcs and Ogres more cohesive with 1) GA Destruction and fluff homogenisation 2) Ironjawz got Ogre teeth decorations It's only now that GW refreshed Ogres, purging tooth decorations and greenskin companions and trying to force a new mythological break that we see Ogres as even remotely distinct
>>98394072>morga the mightyI wonder
>>98394453Still not distinct enough, which is why you see anon swapping the beast they ride with little to no consequence.
>>98394478people swap mounts all the timeI mean yeah they're both armies of big brutes, but within that paradigm I think they're reasonably distinct
>>98393827>dok will be a subfaction of the shadow elves, that's without question>shadow elves will be the army dok will be a subfaction for, that's without questionQuite a leap from these "rumours" to what some of ya'll keep banging on about.
>>98394470Those photographers are sus.
>>98394630Yeah, some are really just wishlisting, others are posting intentionally retarded shit as a way to cope with the anxiety and trauma of school occasionally expecting them to say things that aren’t utterly retarded.
>>98394630not the same personI responded to "0 rumours about more elfshit"here's your rumours about more elfshitI think DoK becoming a subfaction of ulgurothi, in the same way fyreslayers will become a subfaction of khazalids, is pretty likely (and whitefang does seem to imply it) but it's not "confirmed"
>>98394692You're sensible, level-headed and rather magnificent! Keep it up and thank you!
>>98394630How much are you willing to bet about the opposite?
>>98394495yeah, Kruleboyz have dogs and Ogres have dogs with horns.
>>98394761also crude crossbows and carrion birds
I mean besides soup with DoK what would even be the other option? If they put ironjawz and kruleboyz together, gloomspite and shitmob, fyreslayers and khazalids, they're going to put malerion and morathi together. They're not going to have two tomes for shadow elves, especially not when one of those armies consists of like 7 kits and is consistently in the bottom 3 in terms of popularity.
>>98394817How was the head swap?Did you have to do a lot of cutting?
>>98394820Yeah, the truth is AoS doesn't have a lot of room for completely new armies. We basically shuffled out BoC for HoH and everything else released this edition and last edition has been a combo pack of some sort.
>>98394847Yeah they've kept the battletomes capped at 24 for years now. I think our last actually new army before chorfs were gargants in 2nd edition? All other "new" armies since have been subfactions of others, redesigns of existing armies (cos), or soup tomes (kruleboyz)
>>98394924fec should go back with vampires, gargants should go with ogres, kharadrons should be put together with the other dwarfs
>>98394953>fec should go with vampiresThey're cool so they get a pass. They should be able to use some of each other's units though >gargants should go with ogres Yeah>kharadrons should be put together with the other dwarfsThey're just too different, they'd look out of place
>>98394820I mean... just treat them normally like any other faction and give them a second wave?
It's retard thursday already? How the time flies
>>98394991Which is exactly what they'll get, in the form of malerion and the rest of the ulgurothi.
>>98394953>kharadrons should be put together with the other dwarfsDoesn't work, KO stick out too much, and their entire no-magic, high mobility and shooting, flying boats playstyle is not compatible with traditional dwarfs. It works with Fyreslayers because Fyreslayers are just...Slayers, basically. An army of aggressive, glass cannon melee dwarfs who use a lot of rune magic works just as well as a regular dwarf subfaction as they did back in Fantasy. Better even, because regular Slayers were kinda asssss rules-wise.
>>98395028>It works with Fyreslayers because Fyreslayers are just...SlayersAbslute lorelet take.They're a suicidal doomsday cult that opportunistically wor for hire for anyone as long as it brings them closer to thier rleigious goal.It has fuckall to do with "great dishonour, i must sepuku by troll now!"
>>98395093He's obviously talking about visuals anon
>>98395093That has nothing to do with anything I said, retard. Aesthetically and gameplay wise, Fyreslayers are much more compatible with trad dwarfs than KO are. That doesn't mean the fluff is the same.
>>98395028>Doesn't workyes, it does, it worked with the previous dwarfs having both normal dwarfs, gyrocopters, and slayers, and it would work in a battletome that has normal dwarfs, sky dwarfs and fire dwarfs deploying as combined arms.
>>98395093>suicidal doomsday cultLorelet. Fyreslayers' are about preserving their societies. Runesons leave the hold to found new lodges, not out of suicidal ideation but with the hopes of creating new footholds for their people to prevent the kind of disaster that the age of chaos brought. Fyreslayers do however have legitimate suicidal slayers who do so because of dishonour, you lorelet. Doomseekers and Grimhold Exiles.
>>98395535They are suicidal because their goal, resurecting Grimnir, also brings on an apocalyps in form of resurected Vulcatrix.Their religion leads them towards a world ending cataclysm
I recently picked up a cog fort and want to chaos it up a bit. I was thinking of replace some of the cannons it has with blood cannons, but I was unsure of the scale. Would anyone know if the scale looks right or if it would be off without a lot of chopping.
>ogres still in stockshould I wait for eBay splits it I only want more maulbeast raiders? I seriously doubt ogres are popular, they never have been? Surely scalpers will be cutting prices
>>98395548would vulcatrix coming back be so bad? They seem to be able to work together with magmadroths just fineif grimnir ever comes back he should be melded together with vulatrix anyway
>>98395569If you only want 1 kit out of the big box jsut buy the 1 kit
>>98395574Vulcatrix made Aqshy uninhabitable by existing. She basically sets the world on fire.Droths aren't jsut micro versions of her, she was a deity. Drop of her blood causes a vulcano to erupt where it landed
>>98395582Grimnir didn't choose to kill her, Sigmar gave him the task when pressed. She wasn't causing much bother evidently
>>98395599>Sigmar, the godbeast killer, wanted someone lese to fight this one>and the guy died fighting itThat's just more fire for Vulcatrix glazing. Sigmar knew she's trouble, but needed her gone
Noob here, is there a rule against using multiple of the same endless spell or can you spam Suns?
>>98395569Wait for normal boxes ot at least a spearhead box
>>98395624Only one Sun at the time, I'm sorry anon
Best place to get savage orruk models?
>>98395624>>98395633I actually think you can, I'm not seeing anything immediately obvious that says you can't but I might be retardedyou can only (attempt to) summon the same spell once per turn, but nothing says you can't just do it again the turn after that
>>98395656Low traffic LGSs that still have 10 yearold stock at 10 year old prices.I once found cheap Scars of Mirrodin thatway many years after the New Phyrexia block stopped being printed
>>9839565640k Orks plus learn to sculpt
>>98395678>Low traffic LGSs that still have 10 yearold stock at 10 year old prices.always a joy
I can't get over how boring the OBR chariot mini was, which is odd becuse the archers from the same wave were one of the cooler takes on the idea i saw.I think i would have rather have them ride pic related than add a normie cart to a standard obr horse
>>98395599sigmar sent gotrek to the beast SPECIFICALLY because it needed the beast gone to colonize aqshyor at least the important spot in aqshy
>>98395789>gotrekmeant grimnir, but oh well, close enough
>>98395761it's one of the most common complaints I've seen on here, on par with "nighthaunt should get haunted armour!" and "idoneth should get elite infantry" but yes I agree, ossiarchs should do more with their construct stuff. They're still weirdly adherent to a relatively normal humanoid body plan. Look at necrons and all their weird scorpion looking motherfuckers lately, we should get shit like that.
What would be the AoS equivalent of locking exodites behind a box of beastsnaggas?
>>98396039probably some of the warcry edition boxes when they were doing those, or some of the foot heroes that got trapped in dual boxes for years. or the new underworlds bundle boxes where you have to buy 4 unrelated underworlds bands at once just to get the one you want. or cursed city and darkwater
>>98396039imagine if this box came with only half the skaven, and they were put against one set of normal steelhelms and 5 cavaliersand no board or scenery or heroes
>>98396039Grotbag Scuttlers but they come with a bunch of Fyreslayers.
>>98396217I think reading this post just gave me an aneurysm because it's too fucking real
>>98396198>normal steelhelms and 5 cavaliersI feel like that's too generous compared to beastsnaggas. If you like CoS you'll probably be interested in at least one of those, though steelhelms aren't super well like (on here). Not even ork players like the beastoids. I think darkoath is a better comparison.
>>98396321Come back when slaanesh is let out of his cage
>>98396217This probably. 3 Grots in smallest ships possible vs 20 vulkites
>>98396321Spawn camping Skaven apparenlty
>>98396039To get the cogfort you have to buy a starter set priced box that also includes the kruleboyz dominion half.>>98396321They also got another underworlds warband They also have a guaranteed update waiting in the wings for when GW wants to make more memberberry money by dropping tyrion
>>98396321why would they need to be up to anything?
>>98396411Because they're the coolest guys, anytime they're not on screen everyone should say "hey, where are the Lumineth Realm Lords"?
>>98396422Trvth nvke
>>98396321>They got a single lordI hear you, I was looking forward to seeing what weird animal the water spirit would be
>>98396436It's a horse. I think there was even scribble art
>>98396422im really torn on lumineth. on the one hand, they have some models that are just immensely superior to the old whfb high elfs. things like light of eltharion, the twins, cavalry characters, a bunch of stuff, i even like the spirit animals, and dawnriders beat the pants off of the old silverhelms.on the other hand though, i really miss the old scale mail and breastplates of units like the old swordmasters, pheonix guard and sea guardnow that old world has the old plastics available i've been strongly considering doing a hybrid army choosing piecemeal the kits i like from each range, but i am a bit concerned the old WHFB kits might be a bit small or anachronistic compared to the newer lumineth.
>>98396436I was hoping for a hippo but between the riverblades and the little artpiece it's just a normal river horse a hippo potamus, if you will.Anyway that just leaves zenith right? Are there any other or "minor" elements besides the four main ones?
>>98396466Yeah nigga if the sizes match reasonably there's no reason to pick and choose, you've got the parts available to take the elements you prefer from each and create your ideal aeioulf army. Excited to see your loomies in the thread if you do.
>>98396481Avatar only has 4 elements. But the last UW band had mini uracan, so there migth be other manifestations of the temples
>>98396466I'm in the same boat as you in the sense that I *really* like some parts of the loomie range (dawnriders, the lightcourser, all the cow shit) but have just about zero interest in the rest. I think as long as you stick to the 8th edition stuff (isle of blood etc), which you will probably do anyway because the older shit is fucking ugly, you'll have no problem mixing and matching. Especially if you exchange sine bits between kits and stuff.
>>98396487i dont think the size differences are too bad, the most egregious one is the wardens compared to the sea guard. my bigger concern is that the new lumineth all have fairly wide stances so they take up most of a 32mm base, while the fantasy stuff doesnt usually even take up most of a 25mm, they have quite narrow stances, so i do worry that if i put the old fantasy models on AoS correct bases they might just end up swimming in excess basing.i might just use some adapters and put them on 25s. i might even be able to get 2 games out of the army that way
>>98396460I'm slightly disappointed, I was hoping it was a fish so I could see how they'd do the mask
>>98396492Speaking of underworlds, I hope they push out some more interesting warbands before it kicks the bucket. KO is yet to gain their second one for example, and while grots have about a billion I kinda wanna see grotbags.
do we have any estimates for when the new dwarf army is going to be revealed?got a hunch that its going to be my next army
>>98397189it might be releasing alongside with the new EOE.
>new Warcry stuff rumored alongside the release of the Ogors.
>>98389445I think it was your sprue. I got the Destruction Warbands bundle (mostly for Morgok, as I had the 1.0 cards but no models) and all of them had almost no moldlines (I just removed a bit from the cruleboys).(And yeah, I have painted them)
>>98393668To be fair if resign wasn't as fragile and shit as it is I would 100% print most of my shit.>>98397317My guess is that they will give the chorf treatment for other warbands and give warcry rules to them.
>go to local game shop>look at spearhead kit>130 dollars >wtf that's so expensive>look at the very thin idoneth deepkin book>fifty dollarswhat the fuckwhy is this shit so expensiveI thought gunpla was bad but jfc
>>98397549yeah warhammer has that reputation for a reason. it might shock you to learn that age of sigmar is actually the cheapest of their full size games to collect (between 40k, aos, old world and horus heresy), by about a factor of 50, and that by virtue of being an elite army with high point costs deepkin are also one of the cheapest in the game to get a full army going.that said, spearhead which is the smaller faster game mode is about the same cost regardless of army. however, spearhead is not just some beginner tutorial mode that people abandon once they've learned the game, its actually become of the more popular ways to play the game even for longtime players because its fast, comparatively cheap vs a full army, and the speed means that even if you do want to play all afternoon, the games are short enough to get multiple rematches or play multiple different spearheads in the same day, whereas a full army 2000pt game is usually limited to 1 per day since they take several hours, or at most 3 a day for big 12 hour tournaments, usually with breakfast and lunch breaks inbetween games, those are mostly at conventions or stores that are hosting an event. there are also options if you want to find ways to save, like the reddit or facebook miniswap groups, ebay, and secondhand sites like trolltrader, although you can often find brand new models still in the box or on sprue without the box at a discount compared to retail.you can also save money by 3d printingthe average 2000pt age of sigmar army at somewhere around $600-800 USD all said and done, depending on the army and playstyle (hordes are more expensive, elite is usually cheaper). i think the old world comes out to roughly similar since they need more models but their battalion and infantry boxes are usually good deals. but 40k and horus heresy easily breach $1000+ just for a bare minimum playable armybut yeah, just be aware of it going in, the sticker shock on warhammer of any variety is fierce.
>>98397744>by about a factor of 50%
>>98390436>>98390431Why does Tzeentch's faction have more twinks than fucking Slaanesh's?
>>98397744maybe I can come back to it once I have money to burn, which hopefully will happen sometime this decademaybe I'll check eBay
>>98396272I rather like Steelhelms because they are a nice kit that not only can be built with a good bit of head variety, but also how friendly they are to kitbashing compared to certain other CoS kits.
>>98397776It is a female.
>>98397803What army ya lookin into anon? I'm perpetually dumping shit off at relatively cheap since I wind up getting local lots of shit.
>>98397744>the humble Ogor Glutton is over 200pts for a single unit, just your basic fat-fuck in the army>a piece of a literal star-eating god that is a centerpiece and will obliterate almost anything handily is 330pts I've had people jump to AoS because I've pointed out the army (and therefore $$$$) gaps between the two settings.
>>98398132Unless you play Gitz. Shit sucks.
>>98398132I started collecting some Ad-mech for funsies (I was buying a stonehorn and the guy had a cheap Cawl to toss in) jesus christ I'm amazed at how fucked the points are. Ad-mech I don't think have a unit of their own over 300 points unless you bring a knight or some shit. Meanwhile, I'll find some fucking lot on Ebay of like 6k points for stormcasts 200 bucks or like 1.5k points of whatever the fuck for like a few hundred. AOS is so much cheaper, has better models, only thing that sucks fat dick is a few armys are in the shitter gameplay wise and list building sucks a fat dick. Also I'm not the biggest fan of the borrow power system shit they're doing here.
Does anyone have the White Dwarf with all the cogfort information? I've finally got my hands on one and would like to tinker with it with all available knowledge. Right now the plan is to place a waystone on the back and have it overgrow to fortify the rear. Meanwhile the 'engine' will be placed on top to fuel the gun. The idea being that it's an older model from when they were mucking about with maximum firepower, mimicking the Steam Tank.
>>98398148Are you gonna put the waystone in the little balloon carriage and have the engine on top? Since the engine is a seperate bit so that's doable.
>>98398151Yeah! I know the engine is part of what supplies the power to move all the chains. The idea being instead its vines that slowly move and twist to power the machine. I've got the engine assembled, but the gap between the fire pump and pipe is off. Instead the plan will be to create a hose between the two like how greek fire used to have for its pump. Maybe greenstuff a few extra and have them laying about, like how old leather firehouse used to have multiples for when they broke.
>>98398142Gitz players are used to having 3 dicks in their ass ever since the BT dropped. My condolences. >>98398145I collect GSC (which I buy second-hand and kitbash) and it's a fun comparison. Even Gnoblars, the shitties unit we had that wasn't Finecast, were 130pts while that's 10 above the GSC's "tank". I've seen 3k of SCE (with the dragon riders and several named characters) sell for $200 on Ebay. It's very hard to not have 1k of an army by accident with very casual collecting. I'm at 600+pts of Khorne and FEC while spending almost half what I shoulda.
>>98397776GW censors Empihilm's nipples so she has to be a woman
>>98397776only fags read books
>>98397317Probably rules for the new units
>>98397189It's probabyl the Winter-Spring releas. So like February
>>98397469It's neither fragile nor shit.
Cursed image
>>98398475>foulhoof SEXOOOOO
>>98397317>rumoredGW explicitly said it in the Q&ARules updates (conversions) and something big later
>>98398529Did you edit this or does he actually do that thing wit his eye?
>>98398535Nta but he just has one eyeHalf his face is just a skull
>>98398535pornbrained
>>98398535Yeah, I asked grok to do that.
>>98398529Is this dude the only named beastoid in the setting now?
>>98398629Model wise yes, I think slaanesh has a named slaangor in fluff but I’ve never really bothered to remember it.
>>98398629Dread Pegant guy is named. And probably Eyes of the 9 one too
>>98398475>mfw some Sigmarite tries to put violence in movies and sex on TV
>>98398645Apparently the dread pageant slaangor is massive compared to the normal guys, at least according to minicompare. I wonder if that's actually the case, but no anon plays slaanesh so I can't ask anybody to confirm lel.
>>98398629No, the supplement for BoC says the main guy survived. He's the first named character model outside of UW though
I wonder why ossiarchs don’t play around with gore in their designs. Seems like a missed opportunity.
>>98398748they be bone, not blood, but nu-phyrexia schemes are available if you abuse blood within the joints
>>98398748Goes against their clean and organized vibe. Besides they have no use for flesh.Most we see is some models having flayed skin incorporated as a decoration/cloths
>>98398771reminder that the possibility of bone crotches and bone lips implies the possibility of bone boobs and bone butts
>>98398777Bone boobs should be regular skulls melded into the torso
>>98398777I swear to god if they don't give nagash a skeletor-like voice in total war...
>>98398777Bone bbl
>>98398789>the skulls are actually sentient, and they are the heads of a pair of twins nagash fused into a single construct>the construct has no head on her shoulders, instead the neck stump ends in a voluminous mass of serpentine spines that act like hair flowing back
>>98398777>mfw my city has rejected the bone tithe and easily repelled multiple Ossiarch attacks but then an ambassador with a perfectly sculpted fat bone ass comes to convince us otherwise
>>98398824>I don't care who nagash sends, I'm not paying taxes.png
>>98398824>the pelvis collector
>>98398846>the pelvis collector
>famous Ossiarch musician named pElvis
>>98398846Look, I'm a Sigmar fearing Azyrite but if a shortstack bone baddie smacked her ass to make it rattle and said my bones are for Nagash but my pelvis belongs to her I'd open the fucking gates
>>98398858>>98398895kek
soulblight artwork>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/rzquehhx/warhammer-art-through-the-years-soulblight-gravelords/
>>98398924Oo Anons, now post the stuff warcom intens missed
>>98398924God, I hate vampires
>>98398924This is a joke.
>>98398924They didn’t say what they would show next week. >>98398929Only stuff I have saved is the stuff from Elliot’s stuff which was already posted there. I guess cursed city has some artwork that could be shared.
Luv me skellies
5e will be the edition of zombie supremacy.
>>98399005Can't be, it's chaos in the starter, no zombies, a normal army release for zombies means a small army release.Better luck in 2030.
>>98398771God I wish Katakros was a sickass bone kamen rider instead of the boring model we got.I NEED more models like the Necropolis Stalkers.
>>98399012It's going to be death, the chaos rumor ended up being for TOW.
>>98398929
>>98399066No bro it's goig to be Slaanesh beastm- oh fuck that came out already
>>98399179Come to think of it, what's Big M been up to recently?
>>98399271I think he's busy re-modeling places he stole from Nef
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/kmgdy8ll/classic-skaven-miniatures-return-via-made-to-order/First time AOS has gotten a mto since, what, back when they were doing the old 1e terrain stuff?
>>983993062e terrain (Stormvault), you mean?
>>98399271He and Neferata teamed up to fight skaven while sabotaging each other's defenses. Just the regular SNAFU, really.
>>98399306They already did this in 3rd
>>98399312oh was it 2e? Then yeah, that. Although I cant remember if they did something with the chaos gate terrain too. but probably not.
>>98399066That was a different rumour, which actually predates the boole 5th edition stuff by quite a few months. I doubt it's the same one. Hope I'm wrong because StD sounds like the most boring possible starter set faction opposite stormies.
>>98399312I might pick up queek just because I've wanted one of him for awhile, warpgnaw... I dunno, I fucking hate resin models.
>>98399316I genuinely cant read the ikit claw model at all what the hell. That paint job is awful.
>>98399316was the forgeworld Verminlord in that MTO?
>>98399066no, chaos is in the starter for both tow and aos, the rumor was never about tow
>>98399306>Throt I don't even play Skaven but I'm tempted
>>98399353He's not saying rumormonger said it's for tow. He's saying he was a retard and confused what gae the rumour was for
>>98399306is this paintjob just very bad or does it actually look like a happy meal toy?
>>98399361depending on if they still exist I found a solid base for a thrott kitbash. I picked up "verminous" from the old Fantasy Flight descent game, snipp off his weird gross face, green stuffed a skaven head in and slapped a third arm on his shoulder.It's a pretty quick and simple one!
>>98399364there's no confusion about it, the rumor for the 5th starter set for aos is stormcasts against chaos
>>98399364I doubt that. As mentioned before reformation had already talked about the tow refresh months before so it'd be less likely for him to not know it was coming for them, plus guys like whitefang back me up have corroborated std being in the starter set. Also that kur6 guy but he turned out to be somewhat sketchy so whatever
>>98399368You know I was wondering that too. I don't remember it looking so clean
>>98399306>>98399368Lmao you're right, that is an awful paintjob. Might be the worst one 'eavy metal has put out in years, they didn't even try.The model's only so so to start with but they really did it a disservice.
I just hope whatever in the next set is more customizable than what 40k got with their orks. I honestly like how they handled 11th (so far) aside from the worthless booklet thats in there.
>>98399397somehow I never realized how big this fucking thing was. I might actually grab it.
>>98399397I wonder what happened. Maybe they painted that particular one up quick since it was supposed to be in the background of a group shot or something
>>98399306Man I don't even play Skaven but I'm really fucking tempted to pick Ikit and Queek
>>98399431>hey craig, you got those skaven paintjobs ready for the mto?>sure mark, I'll send them to you right now. The team had a lot of fun painting them up.>thanks, I wa- oh shoot hold on a minute, I forgot to tell you guys that we're also doing the warpgnaw! The article goes live in two hours, fuck!>I'll basecoat one real quick, just put him in the back of the article
>>98399459>>sure mark, I'll send them to you right now. The team had a lot of fun painting them up.the other minis are all old paintjobs
This one's nice.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/uhr5gtx8/new-warhammer-miniatures-revealed-subscribers-now-get-both/
>>98399575I couldn't tell you it wasn't a regular Rotbringer Total waste
>>98399575Ok, so the rumor engine was this rotsword.
>>98399575Decent, but without pazaz
>>98399594mace, corpse, and a horn I think?
>>98399575I don’t hate it.
>>98399575pretty cool but also kind of literally just this guyI like the mace and chainmail though>>98399602I think just the hand
>>98399575>Another fucking bladeguard AoS wins again
>>98399639Wicker figure too.
>>98399575I'm pretty sure that dead freeguild was a rumour mill pic
>>98399693That was a rumour engine?
>>98399575Is that steel Helm or a gallant
>>98399712Gallant/knight on horse. Helms don't look like this
>khadrons animation Always wanted to see them in action.
>>98399575>You get both minis now!>This years 40K miniature is the worst yet, some boring ass marineUh...ok then.
>>98399774Don't forget the price hike anon ;)
>>98399784Wait this shit is like ~8 bucks a month lol? What the fuck? Why are they pretending they're netflix?
>>98399784lol, even better. They just rolled the price of the 2nd model into the sub cost anyway.
>>98399798It's not even a foot hero, it's literally just a slightly different extra guy. Fucks sake man, the megaboss was cooler.
>>98399575>Havent gotten my elf yetThey didnt let me order it and I sent a GW request. What are the odds they tell me to fuck myself and I dont get the eldar thing.
>>98399793What? You get like one five minute CGI animation twice a month or whatever, AND you get an annual $10 discount voucher, only usable on GW's official site for full retail+sales tax, an incredible value! Clearly better than Netflix.
>>98399575The paintjobs on the new MoN models are so sexy, especially the metals.
>>98399890Yeah I think they're great. Works really well with the darkwr colour on the shoulders and the hints of red.It's hilarious how much better they are than the old nurgle paintjobs too.
>>98399306Big fan of the decision to photograph this model from an angle that hides most of the detail
>>98399306>First time AOS has gotten a mto sinceyeah it's been a while, though to be fair most things that get mto's are usually just done under the tow label nowadays
>>98399575i dont hate it but as far as warhammer + bonus minis go its pretty bland. kind of just a regular squad member.
>>98400102if I can't run it as a full unit or a hero it's meaningless. It's like getting a single guardsman or like a single fucking steelhelm.
>>98399575This might be the year I cancel my sub. The 40k side is just a dogwater marine rehashing another commemorative model but to be chapter agnostic. And I'm just simply not a Chaos boy.Unironically give me another year of Soulblight. I want a commemorative Wight King. Or at least Lizards. They don't get shit for commemorative models.
>>98399575lowkey thought this was this month's free mini at stores
>>98399784These things will flood the second hand market more than they already do kek
did the spider curse the rumor engine?
>>98400284i think we've seen top right havent we?
>>98400288No thats a part of the 40gay alpha legion dude that has yet to be shown off. Probably waiting for some black library thingamajig first.
>>98400288it's the alpha legion black library guy, we know he's coming, we've known for ages, but we haven't seen the actual model yetI'm actually more curious about the circle saw at this point. It's been there for almost two years too.
>>98400288>>98400284nvm, we figured out what its supposed to be we just havent seen the actual model yet
Someone asked about where to buy Bonesplitterz recently. I just saw a scan of them so but yourself a 3d printer I guess?
>>98400284its gonna be hilarious when the new """khazalid muh traditional dooowarfs"""" actually just ends up being a shit ton more fyreslayers
>>98400301if i were printing i would try to find better models than the actual GW ones. the reason nobody bought bonesplitters in the first place is because the model range was two kits, both of which had terrible poses
>>98400304apparently the release is like 25% new fyreslayers and 75% new khazalids
>>98400304You have problems
>>98400304I wouldnt mind. I dont really like fb dwarves besides some odd bits that stuck out here and there. I would like it if nu fyreslayers had some armor though, maybe not full plate but their skin is kinda rough to paint as it is with the tattoos.
>>98400310So why are you buying them now?
>>98400321i just think another fantasy battle style dwarf army is gonna be pretty redundant since you can currently buy that full range from the old world. i mean yeah you'll have playable rules, but do they really need to do the same thing twice?and i have to say, if Drolf is any indication of the new art direction its gonna be an absolute snoozefest. that was one of the most boring dwarf models i've ever seen
>>98400323i have no personal interest in savage orcs, im just saying if i were going to print some, it wouldnt be scans of the old dogshit GW minis. other people have made better more flexible or interesting versions of them
>>98400304Best possible outcome
>>98400340I mean obviously but the original anon was asking for the plastic ones.
>>98400333>i just think another fantasy battle style dwarf army is gonna be pretty redundant since you can currently buy that full range from the old world. i mean yeah you'll have playable rules, but do they really need to do the same thing twice?I mean they just did that for chaos warriors and knights, who fucking knows what gw is doing these daysagree on drolf though that dude is boring as fuck
>>98400354i guess thats fine if they have some emotional attachment to that particular kit or whatever, i just wanted to throw it out there that there are better sculpted and more posable versions of that unit available for print these days.
>>98400347Amen.
>>98400333>you can currently buy that full range from the old worldyeah but the minis kinda suck all around. Like I find them kinda distasteful overall from an aesthetic stand point, but even ignoring how they look, the kits are generally horrible to actually put together with having issues of mold lines and gaps. With that being said they might rebrand dwarves in old world too. Maybe make them colder/more norse or whatever. any ways I fully expect them to not be like traditional dwarves at all, I expect alot more high fantasy elements incorporated in them. At least from silhouette stand point, im sure someone will see a dwarf with a shovel and say they're copying fb and say that fyerslayers have miners now or smth.
>>98400371Sure, but that's subjective. I think avatars looks dogshit exaggerated and Highlands is too muted. Shieldwolf is too comical. TWW scans are TWW scans never meant to be printed. I think GW still hold their own.
The only good looking savage orcs anyone has ever made, gw or otherwise
How much have the factions spread across the realms? Are vampires locked to Shyish or can they also be found in places like Ulgu and Ghur?
>>98400529anyone could be anywhere due to realmgates but undead are more drawn to shysh and repulsed by gyhran. imagine it like a liveable climate. I could live in the arctic, but the midwest sounds more comfortable.
>>98400529With the exception of azyr you can find most factions in any of the realms. The bulk of the factions important numbers are usually in certain realms though, for instance Big Ush himself is in ghyran and the more prominent Khorne followers reside in aqshy.
>>98400515ftfy
Is the Dominion box a good start to Kruelboyz?
>>98400570depends on how cheap you get it!But realistically only better start for them was that battleforce or getting into Stormbringer magazine overstock (which tbf might still be available)
>>98400559>>98400515I do love his funny voodoo mask
>>98400575Sadly most things besides the paints are sold out on stormbringer
>>98400575I saw that Battleforce online, might need to do some comparison shopping. Sadly I saw but neglected to buy into Spearhead. The prices were so reasonable and nice for the Kruels.
>>98400575Not Spearhead, Stormbringer magazine. My brain was muddled.
>>98400515I'm really sad we lost them. I heard some big youtuber say we'll never get them because if you paint them brown you know, but racist stereotypes never crossed my mind
>>98400596I'll tell you, Gobsprakk is in a solid spot now so he's worth taking, but feasibly you can still find shit tons of Kruleboyz cheap on the 2nd hand market. You'll have good luck with lots BUT I'll still say that all the heroes from dominion are great.
I want to play the short naked men. What's the easiest 2000 fyreslayer army to build?
>>98400616Idk how the points line up today, but i loved when this was exactly 2k
>>98400605like I read it as some Neolithic stuff not African. There's no African metallurgy which is common nor the zulu style shields. It's just the wooden mask which isn't exactly African specific
>>98400570the kruleboyz half specifically yes. repeated buys are diminishing returns but you can probably buy it twice and still get good use out of most of the models in it, assuming the price is right. most people selling a dominion half are doing so for less than the cost of a box of boltboyz and gutrippaz retail, so you end up getting everything else essentially for free. yeah you are technically missing the banner bearers for the guts and boltboyz, but banner and musician bonuses are so negligible these days that its completely irrelevant
>>98400616Only buy Magmadroths, other heroes, and Flameseekers given the upcoming refresh
>>98400605I think it was mostly just GW realizing it was a dead end of a subfaction and made it so that you either have giant bulky metal orks or kruleboyz.
>>98400605i really think its less the racist allegations and more just that kits just never sold. so instead they just souped the army concept into a handful of ironjawz units. between these guys, the bone shaman, and the weirdnob you kind of have the cave orc/naked berserker thing somewhat, even if its just a shadow of what bonesplitterz used to be, its enough as far as GW is concerned for a concept that sold 0.01% as much as the next highest bottom tier army
Painting dudes
>>98400657I should do that more considering the "centerpiece cabinet" is like 1/3rd painted.
>>98400616Whatever you do, do not buy>vulkite berzerkers>doomseeker>auric runemaster>either grimwrarth berzerker or grimhold exile I forgot lol but probably the formerUnless you really like the designs, as they're stated for a squatting.Vulkites are probably getting a replacement unit, and nobody can tell the heroes apart anyway so you'll probably still be able to use them as proxies just fine, but just be forewarned.
>>98400613>>98400633Thank you Anons. It goes against my personal beliefs to play GW named characters, but I do like the generic heroes and will give them a try if I find them cheap. The idea of spamming Hobgrots and lobbing grenades while dying horribly is also very charming to me.
>>98400657you dont often see the sword version of classic liberators. neat
>>98400654The KB's also leaned into it a bit with their Warcry Warband, but yeah. Though there are somedays I think the last straw was actually the Beastsnaggas flopping in 40K showing that even a slightly different spin on the concept was gaining zero traction.
>>98400605>but what if someone thinks the orcs are NIGGERS????? It's the exact same limp-wristed handwringing as WotC trying to bury the term "tribes" because it might remind people of spearchuckers, as if Africa is the only place that ever had tribes and voodoo masks. News flash, if someone wants to paint their orcs brown and give them baggy pants and fried chicken getting rid of savage orcs isn't going to stop them.
>>98400681>doomseeker>auric runemaster>either grimwrarth berzerker or grimhold exile I forgot lol but probably the formercounterpoint, those models are fucking awesome, buy them immediately before they are OOP forever. you can always find some other foot hero to proxy them as, but any fyreslayer fan wont want to miss out on those models
>>98400681Grimwrath, for the record. Grimhold Exile is staying.
>>98400687>Beastsnaggas flopping in 40K every ork player i know was running 18 of those hog riders and the named hog rider character for 40k for years. its just the boyz that flopped, mostly because they fill the same role as regular boyz but were less effective based on the characters that could attach and more expensive pts wise, neither of which are good things for what is supposed to be a budget horde unit with T-shirt saves
>>98400710The squigriders are genuinly cool, and big squig rider man looks sick as fuck. I don't even hate their units, I was more pissed conceptually that they just made primaris boyz for all intents and purposes after redoing the shitty monopose boyz.
>>98400686I forgot they even had that option all the timeI don't think the new libs have it
>>9840071840k sales are a lot more driven by competitive meta and rules. like a LOT more. if they had actually been a primaris ork unit that was better than boyz it would have sold out every kit. but lukewarm rules means no one buys.
>>98400722no but they broke swords off into their own unit with vanquishers. liberators with swords were only from the full kit if i remember right, and all anyone ever had were the easy build ones from the edition boxes and start collectings. you had to actually go out of your way to pay full box price on liberators to get the swords, which people rarely did
>>98400730tbf the beastsnagga boyz did sell out around me, I don't think anyone was happy about it. I remember this was back when I was under the impression I'd be a 40k guy so I remember ork players in the thread bitching at the time too.Thankfully I've learned AOS is way fucking better, though I do still have my orks and some admech.
>>98399575>>98399890This is the first time I've seen both models and felt absolutely nothing for either. If they were going to go so weak on the AOS side they should have done literally anything more interesting than a fucking Space Marine. At least on previous years' models I could at least have an interesting idea of something to do with them. These I just don't care. I have enough marines and and I don't care for Chaos in general. Any ideas on something to maybe make the Nurgle model something more Soulblight?
>>98400681>doomseekerliterally the best model they've got wtf
>>98400819>doomseekerAre you uh, sure you're talkin' about the right model. I think fucking Symmetricus is better than the doomseeker.
>>98400847I bet he means the Grimwrath Berzerker.
>>98400852I was thinking Grimwrath or Grimhold which are both exponentially better.
>>98400847I like the Doomseeker, he's got a nice beard. That said, he's a Silver Tower refugee that only even got added back to the roster with the 2E battletome, and his rules have always sucked balls, so it's not like people actually were playing him at any point.
>>98400858I think he's fine, but he never really stood out to me very much. The funny thing about how little he stands out, about a year ago someone sold off an entire fyreslayer army to my FLGS. So I checked the used mini case and saw em all, they had the doomseeker set aside in the 2$ rack alongside all the vulkites because they unironically couldn't differentiate him.
>>98400847Yeah... Nostalgia for Silver Tower days + spooky faces
>>98400870
>>98400738yeah its a tradeoff. i'd rather play aos any day of the week, but 40k is undoubtedly easier to find games for, so i keep some armies for both
>>98400738I've been saying exodites would be the thing to get me play to 40k for years and now they're here and I don't care for them at all kek.
>>98400889I'm kinda hoping all the eldar nerds flood the second hand market with the squig hogs boyz.
>>98400897That WOULD be me, but im just gonna wait for the solo box. But ya I presume ork players are about to be blessed with a tide of cheap beastsnaggas.
>>98400847>>98400852>>98400855>>98400870What's wrong with you?
>>98401004wha
>>98401005To have such a terrible opinion
>>98401010I feel like there are better models for the army than the guy with the funny cheerleading baton.
>>98401011>cheerleading batonits a fire poker. its literally the most on theme weapon in the army
>>98401010It's just a vulkite with a pointy stick. Nothing special about the character. In the same way that the grimwrath is just a vulkite with a(n admittedly cool) double-bladed axe
>>98401138I don't even think it's a fire poker, I think it's meant to be a little totem. It just looks a tad bit off.
>>98401285He's got a unique helmet decor being some kind of person rather than a monster
>>98401415you are 100% wrong, it is 100% a fire poker, that is such a specific shape and the army has a fire theme, there is zero chance it was not meant to be a fire poker. its even called a "war iron", which references that fire pokers are also sometimes referred to as fire irons since they were typically made out of iron.
>>98401449Then why the hell is he holding it up instead of like, using it like a poker
I mean is it really surprising that they're cutting some heroes? Fyreslayers have, what, 8 foot hero options compared to only 4 actual units? If they're going to be souped with khazalids you're not keeping around 8 virtually-identical looking heroes for what is essentially a glorified subfaction. I don't think anyone is going to take issue with you running your grimwrath as a grimhold or your runemaster as a flamekeeper. 95% of players don't even know which is which.
>>98401470they could bundle some together and make them an elite command unit, but gw is dumb and greedy
>>98401469>why is a character model holding their primary weapon aloftreally?
>>98401501>>98401469he's also not the only one in the army that has them. several of the priests have them, the rune sons javelin is modeled after one. its a recurring theme in the range
>>98401533>>98401533>>98401533New
>>98401521>>98401449Fire iron is the term and the Doomseeker uses a war iron, the Runemaster a runic iron when 1/2e didn't just abstract everything to "Doomseeker weapons" or "Fyreslayer weapons"
>>98401535>page 7Fuck off throoder.
Anyone got a link to Sylvaneth 4th ed Battletome?It’s not in the gofile link
