Previous: >>98396201Summer Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQWhat's your most recent bluff that you were to pull off for the win?
>Ugin, please! Cum inside me! Make me bear your children! I want to carry your eggs!What did he mean by this?
>>98402399I don't bluff. I just tell people I've got a counterspell in my opening hand.
Can I get a chud-check on Aaron Miller and Kieran Yanner?One is married to a "Chris", the other is on bluesky.Deciding whose art to get.
>>98402417no one working at WOTC is chud safe
>tq>don't attack me. I'm in boros, the colors can do a lot of stuff to attacking creatures >Didn't have any in the entire deckAbout it.
>>98402399>TQNot in EDH, but did an EoE draft. I had used pic related in the first two games. I made a point of leaving one plains free while not having it in my hand, which scared opposing player into not swinging. Then I drew it, swung in, and used it to get the kill.
>TQThe only time I can really say I bluffed is when I miscounted the amount of damage on by board and said I could kill two of my opponents with noncombat damage and my commander and it caused one of them to scoop.
You want to draw cards don't you?
>>98402399>tqProbably casting picrel on the big board threat when he attacked, almost killing the two other players. Next turn he felt safe, attacked me confidently and I Ephemerated an Elementalist to do it again, giving me a free swing and win. Cheeky boros win.
>saw Mothman precon at a target about week ago>thought it was weird they were still selling it but don't think about it too much>the fallout precons are selling for like 250 sealed onlineShould I buy those when I see them? Why are they selling that high?
>>98402426Still there are levels.One worked at WotC, the other for them.One is an australian immigrant, married to a dude and was in the navy.Thanks for nothing.
>>98402399>tqat this point i dont bluff, i just pokerface the entire game
>>98402459it's all bullshit
This deck is way more explosive than I thought it'd be. Probably a bit predatory at my LGS with the average player being so averse to interaction. But maybe that's what they need to learn to eat their veggies and play removal.Highlight of the deck was probably Fury Storm on a Hit the Motherlode into Call Forth the Tempest. Even though it lost most games later in the night on the principle of becoming the threat first and therefore getting killed first, it always felt threatening.
This mans wife has quickly become my favorite commander. She is now my wife.
>>98402494I don't think Cid's going to like that...
>>98402501>Old man>But not uglyDude never stood a chance.
>>98402493Dude wtf is that thing HOLY SHIT lmao
>>98402527I actually had the option to order the less hideous one on manapool last wee. But I saw that art and knew that I had to have her. I did the same with my Jon Irenicus deck.
>>98402399I never bluff anything. I'm completely honest all the time including pointing out targets on my own field for removal. I also play almost exclusively within my turn.
>>98402527Looks like a Berserk character
What are the chances of a new sea monster commander (like Kiora/Thassios) in Nauctis?
>>98402595200%. It is likely you will get multiple.
>>98402493guild artisan + money is so much different from street urchin + budget
>turn 5>cast muddle>turn 6>cast twinflame tyrant and opt>myriad 48 flying damage>win>everyone is pissy
>>98402399I baited a guy into playing a one sided board wipe and then copied itIt was funny
>>98402698people will insist that this magical christmasland win using the combat step is too strong for b2
>>98402494I need to update minehttps://archidekt.com/decks/18124819/dommy_mommy_tribalGathering specimens is a cool af infinite
>>98402720>guy has smothering tithe and ceasar >ruinous ultimatums>narsets reversal>YOU ALWAYS DO THISnever saw him again
>>98402660Urchin is probably the better background, but not one that interested me. I liked the intensity of the mana swing she produces (+3 per turn she sticks around, 1 of which is "permanent" in the form of a land)
>>98402698>Turn 5>Cast Muddle>Nobody kills it>Turn 6>Cast Twinflame Tyrant>Nobody kills Muddle>Cast Opt>Nobody kills Muddle>Go to combat>Nobody kills Muddle>wtf how did I lose? fucking izzet players!!!
>>98402698>>98402738It's not good but it is boring. "Better have it" is poor gameplay.
>>98402744Every wincon is "better have it" you toad. Grizzly Bears asks you to have a 3 toughness blocker in 20 turns.
>>9840274680 iq post
>>98402727Here is mine. Reins of Power has saved me from 3 boardwipes over the course of 10 games. I'm working on trimming some of the 6+CMC cards that I never want to cast, like imposter syndrome and Shadow heart. They both seem like more of a "win more" type deal and Shadowhear is good, but I rarly need to draw that many cards. Etali threatens to win by himself, especilly with all the legandary clones I run. https://archidekt.com/decks/24465407/edea_is_cute
>>98402748>Ugh, you can't expect me to do something ridiculous like "run creature removal"! My opponents just shouldn't run wincons.
>>98402744>"better have it" is poor gameplay>when you have 3 opponentsif anything such gameplay is more fit for edh and even then are you really that salty to deny players their steamrolling sol ring draw even though you'd be the first to say this is a "casual" format?
>>98402476I checked and they're both chudmaxxedpilled. Rest assured both are good and that your purchase will support their chud lifestyle. Except for etched foils. Fuck that blurry ass shit. One of the worst foiling effects by wizards.
now that the bust has crusted over...was it the jews?
>>98402781>etched foil badBut Anon,, I cant sit down with a 2 bucks commander that doesnt even shine, people will think im poor.
>>98402758You're just signaling to your opponents that they have to remove your commander every single time he's out or you run the risk of untapping with him and immediately winning. It's a poor play pattern by every definition. Either they kill your commander and your deck does nothing, or they don't and you end the game.
If the next UB set is Blizzard/Diablo themed will we finally get a Skeleton tribal commander?
>>98402800>it's a poor play pattern by definitionyes, but casuals should have their mill and other shitty archetypes
>>9840259599%? I wouldn't take any bet against it. I agree with >>98402608My bold prediction? Mono red support in the form of group slug (we already know that Jaws is getting reprinted). Aaaand Rakdos shark aggro, using blood tokens.
>>98402807What
>>98402744>"better have it" where "it" is any instant speed interaction in the entire gamethis is why I don't play with strangers at the lgs
>>98402595I think it's more than likely a 100% chance. All I hope for is come nice spirits in the Zhalfir set
>>98402805
>>98402805Ostarion > Leoric
>>98402805Blizzard isn't gonna do an MTG crossover when they could just do it with Hearthstone again.
>>98402815>darn anon removed my commander in my linear deck built around my commander>better run him out asap so I can try to win again>darn anon removed my commander in my linear deck built around my commander>better run him out asap so I can try to win again>lose>wtf I did nothing all game!vs>heh, everyone's tapped out guess I winboring
>>98402811>implying kos commanders are shitty while mill is notlmao
>>98402832I just have no idea what mill has to do with any of this
>>98402833are you that much of a sore loser that you will refuse casuals their shitty archetypes, whether it's mill or a deck that can't function w/o the commander?
>>98402733surely I'm not the only guy who finds it memorable and even actually enjoyable when my big plays get reversed in this casual format card game we call "Elder Dragon Highlander."
>>98402835Are you esl or something, I don't think you followed the conversation
>>98402844you're the only one crying about twinflame tyrant here you know
>>98402847Okay you are just esl
>>98402854>Okay>i'll just say a petty insult and run awayconcession accepted
Thinking of building a zombies deck, which Gisa's best suited to be the commander for it?
>>98402892Gisa is too easy, build this dude.
>>98402892
>>98402892ghoulcaller is a sac decresurrector is removal.dechellraiser is an instant speed repeatable crime deckof the ones you posted? I'd pick Ghoulcaller. But if you're not married to the idea of Gisa alone, I recommend you enlist her brother. That way you can play stuff like Rooftop Storm and Scarab God.
>>98402892Hellraisergreat wardmenacebe gay, do crimeGhoulcaller has a weird big or small identiddy crisisResurrector relies on the enemy or if you kill a bunch of shit so its worth it, its just win moreThe egypt boys give you 4/4 zombies tho
>>98402795No one suspects the etched foil player...
etchedfoilschads....
>>98402957Now that I actually look up the prices the etched foil printing is actually more expensive at around $8-10. Normal foil is about $2 and the MoM alt art version in foil is $5 (halo foil for $30-40 and the serialized for significantly more). The more you know.
>>98402900>Gisa is too easyDude you can't just say that shit in front of her brother
>>98402957another /edhg/ banger.
>>98402957Are etched foils the ones that are really dark? I like those because they remind me of planeshifted cards.
GB combo with wilson at the head
Commanders should just go to the graveyard when they die at this point. Commander tax only made sense back when people were running shitty primeval dragons. You ought to be forced to play recursion if you want to have permanent access to your horrifically efficient current day commander.
>>98403202>just completely change every assumption of the game
>mfw pod is playing bracket 4 tomorrow and I'm just wanting to play my poorly implemented bracket 2 creature slop piles
>>98403257nothing wrong with creatures
>>98402916I was looking into the pair one but I already have like 6 other Dimir ones and I don't wanna lean into one color combo too much yknow>>98402930which are the egypt boys? does one of em give me like a token flesh-eating beetle swarm like Imhotep TheMummy? mite b cool
>>98403259I love creatures and combat but I just know they're going to go combo and stax and my angels are going to get raped
Fellas. I regret to inform you I'm retarded and still to this day am unsure how many lands to put into a deck
>>98403299none, that's what your opponent's deck is for
>>98402744It's a creature with 3 toughness, what deck are you running that can't readily out something like that?
>>98403274There is a world where you weaken and gas things to dominate them and create bug tokens while doing it.Hashaton doesnt have much to do with that, but his zombies get along fine with populate triggers and all the copy stuff in blue.Could always pick a bug to zombiefy.
>>9840329937-39 lands are the norm
>>98402595They're probably going to batch sea monsters the same way they did outlaws so they don't have to keep cycling through a laundry list of types.
>>98403413Speaking of outlaws, shouldn't villains also be outlaws? They don't seem like they are the types of characters to engage with the law in good faith.
>>98403458yes but that was last set not this set
>>98403458To add on to this, why didn't we get new cards where committing a crime matters?
>>98403501WotC doesn't want to support thin blue line as an archetype.
>>98403299I stared to put in 37-38
>friend brings out his sisay deck>i go to the bathroom>come back to thiswhat the FUCK just happened
>>98403860You're getting fucked on by sissay, sissyboi>
>>98402892Ghoulcaller Gisa might have ready deck available in October for thirty bucks.
how do I win with an empty library in RB? assume it's all exiled (I can play it until my next end step)
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98403943zettai ryouiki in the big 26. dyke haircut tactically deployed to cancel it out
>>98403956deal 100 to the entire table
>>98403956Doom
>>98403974Giada becoming brown is as unsubtle as it gets
>>98403986I had to double check that art, holy shit no kidding. Hell, even the look between different prints is insane to compare for Font of Hope
>>98403980oh yeah I forgot they printed this lol
>>98403986>Becoming She always was.
>>98404047love when we reach the point where people are looking at the same image and seeing different things because she looks decidedly paler here to mefor comparison, let us consider the officially released Nipponese interpretation of the same illustration
>>98404047More than likely they think her Foundations Jumpstart or the promo art was the original one
>>98404061Get your eyes checked. She's very clearly brown.>Nips make her whiteAs they are known to do. She could have been as black as the abyss and they still would have make her white.
>>98403974>old enough to still say "zettai ryouiki">young enough to think that's a "dyke haircut"fascinating specimen >>98403943Oh that's neat, are we getting new cards in this or is it all reprints?
>>98404106You do have a point anon
>>98404106>As they are known to do. She could have been as black as the abyss and they still would have make her white.that you think wizards would approve explicit raceswap whitewashing art is crazy to me lol
>>98404129They did approve this though
>>98404047Are we seeing the same thing here? She is noticeably darker in the deck box preview than her first font card
>>98404129>2 separate Jap artists make Giada white when every official depiction of her from them is brown.>You're crazy you think they would do that.I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
>>98404138She's noticably darker in her alt arts from the same set, so what's your point?Doesn't change the fact she's always been brown.
At least whites waifu isnt a twink now.
Anyone more familiar with triggers available to help?>I have Tannuk Steadfast Second on the field>I warp in The Master, Multiplied with haste and attack with him, making 3 token copies>The tokens stick around due to The Master's abilities>at the end step, I exile the original The Master, MultipliedDo the tokens stay or go into exile with him? Do they copy his "warped-ness"?
>>98403976I'm goofing around with ob nix, so I'm already doing 100 damage to everyone (in 1 damage increments)also I dislike mahvel
>>98404158I guess we have different understandings of the word "always">>98404159wotc please bring back Karla Ortiz.>>98404163the tokens stay.>Do they copy his "warped-ness"?no. they're separate game objects and that's not a copiable value.
>>98404159>waifu>twinkThat aside, the White paragon will always be Gideon to me, RIP my nigga, never forget
>>98404159Who are each color's waifu? No UBs
>>98404120>are we getting new cards in this or is it all reprints?It's all reprints, similar to 2022 starter decks.
>>98404200No, I have a correct one, and you don't. WotC design team made her canonically brown since their first printing.Guest artist depiction don't count for anything, otherwise we'd have to assume bolas covets lasagna as treasure.
>>98404163"[Do something] at the beginning of [step or phase]" is a delayed triggered ability for purposes of The Master (C.R. 603.7).The Master's last ability can apply to delayed triggered abilities you control even if an activated ability generated them, and it can apply to those abilities because it's not limited to abilities of specific kinds of objects (e.g., "Triggered abilities of permanents you control") (C.R. 603.2e).
>>98404163where is the ambiguity here? even if they copied the "warped-ness" the text written on the tokens themselves would prevent their being exiled. they stay on the board.
>>98404163No the "warp" trigger comes from casting the card with a warp cost. Similarly if you cast Clone copying the warped creature the Clone won't warp because it wasnt cast with warp, or if you copied a warped creature with silent hallcreeper for example
>>98402413He's gay
>WoW D&D supplement means WotC is in bed with Blizzard>likelihood of a UB supplement skyrocketsGive me functional raid decks, please god.
I would guess this is banned on bracket 2? cannot find shit on edhrec
>>98404650Bloodchief Ascension is sort of a grey area in that it is telegraphed over multiple turns and can be removed. But it is boring when it actually gets online, so your mileage may vary.
>>98404132yeah this only proves that they hold back great art just to be fuck heads...- just print all arts in english FFS
>>98402744>>98402738>>98402698here's my deckhttps://archidekt.com/decks/24467005/mudI swapped out ancient copper with the sphinx
>>98404579
>>98404932I mean it looks fun. The problem is just that you do have a few cards in the deck that make it so players are constantly incentivized to kill your commander. Having cute options like Sphinx Ambassador clashes when the possibility of "I simply win the game" exist.
>>98404968The last time they made a card with this level of variance was Stitch In Time, after which R&D realized they can't print cards like that ever again because of how frustrating they are.Might fit in Pokemon TCG though.
If i put this on my Commander, it goes to a guy, and he swings for 21 against somebody else, is it still commander damage from me even if I'm not the one piloting it?
>>98405000good question anon. let's check the rules.>704.6c In a Commander game, a player who’s been dealt 21 or more combat damage by the same commander over the course of the game loses the game. See rule 903, “Commander.”That's still your commander, even though you aren't controlling it, so combat damage that it deals to a player is still "combat damage by the same commander." So I'd say yes, it counts.I fucking love Assault Suit
>>98404579Praying gods for playable Vol'jin commander.
>>98405024Bro is deadYou get the black lesbiansThe only male will be a bloodelf
>>98405047>all ub releases are nostalgiabait>except wow because modern blizzardVery unfortunate.
>>98404650>halfThats not infinite is it?Lifegain chads could tank that.Multiple turn set up to boot.Unreleated note, how much tutors is fucking "few" anyways?
>>98405020That's really cool. I was thinking about trying to make a Voltron deck since I usually run a Commander that's more passive and the equipment being able to bounce around and hit other players seemed like a really fun concept, slap a few more pieces on him and just let him go commit crimes in my name
>>98404968Where are her nipplesWhy is her face Woll Smoth level scrunched
>>98403084Yeah they tend to be darker from the few that I got. It's the texturing that really puts me off though since it tends to make the art look blurrier and muted.
>>98405075>Unreleated note, how much tutors is fucking "few" anyways?That's outdated. You can run unlimited tutors in b2 so long as they aren't GCs
>>98405076Actually my favorite thing to do with my Voltron deck. It hasn't scored me any wins yet, but force equipping bloodthirsty blade to be goaded is hilarious.
>>98405299>It hasn't scored me any wins yetThen.... it's trash?
>>98405401No anon, I have not won with the specific combination of Assault Suit and Bloodthirsty Blade.Fortunately there are 97 other cards in the deck and some of them aren't lands. Some of those have won games.
>>98405299Very nice, I'll take a look over it after I go on lunch break, Voltron is really fun to me as a concept
>>98405401>He doesn't consider his deck great if it does something neat once in awhile.
>want swordsman's steel for a living weapon deck>it's $20AHH
>>98405299>25$ cardI fucking hate this sets that are overpriced cuz all the cards are top tier trash, like bottom of the pit but like 3 of them seem play so the price skyrockets cuz no one want to buy sealed.
>>98405446>Balan, Wandering Knight (CMM): $0.44>Bloodthirsty Blade (NCC): $0.36>Assault Suit (C16): $0.24>Colossus Hammer (FIC): $0.68which card was anon talking about?
>>98405493
>>98405493He was talking about the stupid ugly waifu version
>>98405438I get it's capeshit but there are a lot of cool cards this set
>>98405515Hope Odo's card is fun
>say my deck is bracket 3>other players agree to play bracket 3>their decks are bad bracket 2 with game changersHow does this happen so often? They get mad at ME for ruining their game, but I'm mad at THEM for just advertising their terrible decks as not terrible.
It's been like 1 month dince I last visited here, but can somebody tell me the qrd on Wizard of the Coast investors scandal? Something about lying on their sales? Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask
>nuts all over your hobbyThank you Wizards of the Coast, I WILL eat the slop!
>>98405775Nothing burger.>"erm you didn't do absolutely everything you could to destroy this game for the sake of line-go-up">line went up massively>lawsuit retracted
>>98405783Fair enough, thought it was something gay like that.
>>98405818Yeah I can't exactly remember the complaint, I think they basically wanted WotC to print more UB packs. Like for LotR they didn't like it being a limited run or something they wanted them to squeeze every penny. But whatever it was, the underlying point was that WotC didn't make them as much money as they could have around...I wanna say 2022?And then obviously WotC has been reporting record sales since the lawsuit was filed last year so it basically became inarguable
>>98405775It never meant anything and it is weird people think companies have so little protection in the US.
So if you run Worldly Tutor your deck is b3, but if you run Finale, GSZ, and Chord of Calling it's cool?
>>98405848>What's the difference between this 1 drop instant and these XG, XGG, and XGGG sorceries?!
>>98405848Yes, that is how it worksThe bracket system is loose and imprecise as it's an ad-hoc tool created three decades into the game's lifespan to govern thousands of cards on a rubric based entirely on feels and vibes with no hard mathematical basisIf you don't like it feel free to propose an alternative system or just continue playing with your own set of players who have determined their own acceptable boundaries for play
>>98405848They added green and red cards to the GC list arbitrarily. Because people pointed out how red and green were largely unimpacted by the GC list.So they picked some undeserving cards to put there solely for "fairness" between colors getting GC'd.Rather than accept blue has a ton of GCs for a reason
>>98405886A lot of the blue GCs also make no sense>C-Sphinx>Force of Will>Narset, Parter of Veils>Thoracle
>>98405897>a lot of GCs also make no senseftfy. Most of the GC is nonsensical.
ban more cards
>>98405963Ban everything that isn't bracket 2. That way all the 3-5 people come to bracket 2 and bring their mindset there.
>>98405963Ban green
I wish pauper was bigger imo
>>98405862>chord of calling>sorcery
>>98405897This nigga is serious and likely eating beans
do I buy a playset of shock land proxies for 10 bucks or do I spend 150 on real cards
>>98406146you link me the proxies
>Civic Tutor>W>Instant>Search your library for a creature card with power or toughness 2 or less, reveal it, then shuffle and put that card on top.Print it wotc you fucking cowards.
>>98406158it would just be normal art, no anime titties
>>98406146You spend 3$ by printing them at your library, or >1$ is by "a playset of" you mean one of each, not four of each (I don't know how you would buy 40 shock lands for 150 bucks, but if you can do that instead).
>>98406163lols my bad. with playset I just meant one of each shock land
>>98406165Then yeah, get 2 sheets of cardstock from your most local stationary store, they will very likely give you them for nothing, and then go to your local library and print them at like 25c a sheet.
>>98406171My local library stopped people from printing cards due to possible copyright infringement not kidding
>>98406186Actual nazi germany, my lord. Maybe the stationary store will do it.
>>98406199I'm not the anon you were responding to, just thought I'd throw in my little anecdote
>>98406207which state or locality?
>>98405886>>98405897>>98405902the people that cry about the GC being nonsensical are the first to slop up the banlist as the perfect list of all time, no different from rule0fags
So if you run Demonic Tutor your deck is b3, but if you run Rhystic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, or Insidious Dreams it's okay?
>>98406245sure
>>98406245yesinb4 someone writes>Wow, so effect X is on the gc list, but not instances a, b, and c of slightly worse versions of effect X? I can't believe they would do this. I do not understand the concept of drawing arbitrary boundaries based on taste and discernment. This is so illogical of them
>>98406261signpost bans means we have absolutely no fucking idea what's "supposed" to be banned or not
>>98406217Primtime should have been unbanned a decade ago. Now more than ever it should be unbanned.>Oh you can get the two best lands in you deck over and over againWho gives a fuck, that only matters if you are running some degenerate shit, which means you are bracket 4 anywayThe initial argument for the ban was nonsense.>Games became a fight for who got a Primetime or killing itOh, you mean like 7 trillion other powerful threats? Wooooooow
>Consecrated Sphinx dodged the first draft of the GC list>A card that literally warps the game around it>A card that if an opponent clones it means both players draw as many cards as they wantFree PrimeTime.
My Pod rule 0'd wishes to work as they should. How do I feel about that?
>>98406273yeah the green titan is way less gay than primordial, I'm kinda miffed that it's banned when I just wanted to slam it into my 2-4-7 deck
>>98406265>what's "supposed" to be banned or notcontract from below should be unbanned, people play with fake cards anyway
Maro the Kike says there are 8 total "Rulebreaker" commanders. I bet one of those will allow you to have a wish board.
>>98406275Doesn't do anything if a smart player just removes it as soon as they can.The same can't be said about prime time other than the removal being a counterspell.
Why isn't Manabarbs MLD?
>>98406295Not an argument. Like I said. The most powerful thing you can do with Prime titan is grab your two best lands and if your running lands so strong they break the game when they hit the field, then you are in bracket 4 anyway.
>>98406285Depends if you want to be>Retarded>Smart>Extra retarded
>>98406300>Its not an argument because I don't like it.Nah. Primetime can stay banned.
>>98406311It's not an argument. Prime Time lands and you get two lands unless someone kills it. Sphinx lands and you get two cards unless someone kills it, then you get two more, then you get two more. If Sphinx survives a full turn cycle you have gotten 6 cards. If Titan survives, you get the four best lands in your deck. You a retard who sucks old boomer cock and takes it up the ass harder than Gay Bolos.
>>98405862Nothing in green lmao
>>98406311>Prime Time does a thing when it landsSo sphinx doesn't do anything at all if it resolves and you pass? Sphinx draws you card after card if you make it stick. As soon as a Sphinx lands the game becomes about the Sphinx, full stop. It becomes the full focus of the game. Primeval Titan just ramps you or grabs some retarded combo that only matters ff you are in B4.
>>98406319>Prime Time lands and you get two lands unless someone kills it.ummm primeval titan has an etb actually
>>98406305Huh, what you mean?
>>98406325Yes, you get two lands unless someone kills it, in which case you get MORE lands. My wording was admittedly poor there. Sphinx lands and you get cards unless someone kills it.
>>98406289Does this effectively just thin your deck by one card?
>>98406333Now it is "Exile the top card of your library then draw seven cards" It's just the strongest draw spell in the game.
>me immortal>army immortal>everything untargetable.My reign shall be eternal!
>>98405493anime balan is 20-25.
>the rule zero fags and the anti-bracket fags (the supposed "anti-establishment" players) are now slopping up the rc/wotc banlist as the perfect list of all timelike clockwork
>>98406342EOT.
>>98406345People have always worshiped the RCs ban list, despite their shitty logic for a lot of their bans. I've never seen a crowd so quick to guzzle the semen of "authority" so quickly, other than Trumpers.
>>98406342>SHROUD>Trying to copy your own shitBud, you okay?
>>98406342Cool, so I'll cycle this
>>984063552 dudes is not much of a legionI bookmarked 550 cards and now I have to slim that down to a tenthIm very much not okay
>>98405516>>98406343sorry CHUDmander players, the Jumpstart enjoyer gets the pre-proxied anime girl.
>>98406342Pariah is a pretty cool kill spell cause you can enchant your opponent's creatures. But the shield is better and easier to tutor for combo shit.
>>98406342Just a thought. Artifacts are more Eternal than silly magic.
I just got done watching 8 diagram pole fighter. I need a staff fighting deck. Recommendations?
>>98406359The creatures are still up.Ill have a 3cmc spell reanimated in a jiffy.>>98406367That would leave both the shield the creature unshrouded and open to targeted removal.>>98406379I havent read the enchantment rules yet.They dissapear?
>>98406398No. They don't disappear. The major problem, as another anon pointed out is shroud stops you from targeting your own shit and your own creature after they are enchanted with what you posted them. Hexproof only stops your opponents from targeting your stuff but you're still free to do what you want.
so if my manapool vendor didn't provide package tracking and it never arrived what do I do
>>98406337Except it would be exiled at the start of the game by its other effect.
It's about family and that's what's so powerful about it
>>98402399I hope Jason rainville gets an aggressive, painful, and incurable form of cancer.
Is this a nice combo for bracket 2-3?
>>98406481holy timmy trash
>>98406471I hope him and all his loved ones suffer immensely.
>>98406481>combo>bracket 2?
>>98406471>>98406492because he draws unattractive women?
>>98406481>NEOvagina furslop>troondrazi>UBIt's like this post was crafted to ragebait me specifically. In an effort to be even-handed I will give an actual answer:This will be fine in Bracket 2. It crumbles to literally any removal, it's slow and it's highly telegraphed. Any win you pull off with it is well-earned, as it relies on finding an opening or catching your opponents slipping.Also is it just me or is it weird that Super State doesn't give indestructible? I seem to remember powerscaling arguments claiming Super Sonic is literally invincible.
>Finally something decent to amass with>5 manaInto the trash it goes.
>>98405963Ban blue and black
>>98406544I get the feeling rage baiting you is pretty fucking easy and doing so is not an accomplishment of note.
>>98406328>retardedyou should build battle of wits and shuffle 100+ sideboard cards into your library to win
>>98406511https://archidekt.com/decks/24669723/overencumbered_is_my_favourite_mtg_enchantmentIt’ll more so be a finisher in this precon I’ve recently gotten ahold of after waiting ages for my LGS to get it in stock again. Considering it’s 10 mana I’m sure it’s fine for b2 pods.>>98406544While your seething makes me want to play with UB cards even more I do agree, it’s flimsy enough of a combo for b2, good enough for b3 provided I can protect it.
>>98406548dreadhorde invasion and mindless conscription
>>98406613Both of those only amass zombies.
>>98406618if you amass goblins it becomes a Zombie Goblin Army named "Zombie Army token"
>>98406569reminder that the art is showing that the two wizards will die soon from drowning, so the moral lesson of the card is to never duel in an underwater chamber
Fairy Conscription 1BEnchantmentAt the beginning of your upkeep, Amass Fairies 1Creature tokens you control have flying
>>98406629Sheeeeeit
>>98406633No it shows two retard wizards duking it out in a leaking underwater chamber and the Chad cephalid watching from outside laughing his ass off and winning cause he won.
>>98406385Rasaad yn BashirStick fearless mentorDonatello of some kindaang, swift savior, yellow cersionSyr carah the boldSome kinda b1 deck where you cram in every "staff of blahblah" card
>>98406568It's more the fact that all three cards manage to do it in different ways that impresses me. Any one of the three would have done the job.
wallchads
>folk hero drops to pennies after getting reprinted once
>>98406689Rasaad is spot on, ty anon.
>>98406481you spend 10 mana to do 19 damage to each opponent? this doesnt do anything
>>98406769I'm not gay, but 19 damage is 19 damage
>>98406776And ten mana is ten mana.
Remove commander damage. This message brought to you buy cleric gang
7 commander damage makes more sense
>>98406803If commander damage is removed I’ll simply concede whenever my opponent has more than 60 life. Watching your autism be interrupted and blueballed will be my victory over you.
>>98406704PramiKINGS
>>98406803I've legitimately tested 40 games now with/without commander damage explicitly including the voltron/lifegain matchup.It hasn't mattered once. It's a pointless fucking rule that just makes you want to strangle someone playing Assault Suit or with partners.
>>98406342Dies to removal
>>98406492Not proud to admit it, but would
>>98406883UB would be more tolerable if shit like this actually happened. Give me a special Gatewatch vs Godzilla tie in comic.
>>98406875Doesnt everything die to some kind of removal?
>>98406492to be fair, this was the direction xhe was given
>>98406895Do you think Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White and Monty Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight and Benito Mussolini and the Blue Meanie, Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie, RoboCop, the Terminator, Captain Kirk and Darth Vader, Lo Pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger, Bill S. Preston, Theodore Logan, Spock, the Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan could beat Emrakul?
>>98406883This joke doesn't work because that's actually an appropriate response to a supposed multiversal invasion that killed 0 people and lost on literally every plane in existence even before the wifi got turned off.
>>98406962What do you mean? Literally trillions of people died. And tibalt!
>>98402417
>>98406548A 4/4 body that make/buffs a body for doing the bare minimum when you just toss a fodder body you made off krenko or some shit for 5 seems like a pretty good rate for an uncommon to me. Not like 5 mana in back breaking in commander, and commander in red.I'm a retard, so take that for what its worth.
I used to think people using sloppa proxies was a myth, but I encountered one last night. It triggered an indiscernible feeling, something between nausea, hatred, and profound sorrow.
>>98406994what was it a proxy for
>>98407018He had anime tiddy girl sloppa basics and his commander was Jirina Kudro, but a slop brown girl in a bikini
>>98407023If the girl were white and prepubescent would you have looked upon the proxy more favourably?
>>98407032No. What are you trying to do here? What's your game?
>>98406967More people died in MKM than MOM and ONE combined.
>>98406907no
>>98406985kill yourself
>>98406907Yes
>>98406985Vaush ass ai proxy
>>98406907They can beat Chuck Norris and Chuck could have round-house kicked all the Eldrazi titans single-handedly.
This card has won me so many games I had no business winning, it's not even funny.
Tried to make this deck work because she's my FF girl but Sagas kinda just suck ass
>>98407321There are good sagas, unfortunately, the best ones tend to not be in green or white.
>>98407288Putting this in my Shantotto deck. Thanks nigga
>>98407321Sagas are good. They are just exhausting as a deck type.
>>98407321FF9 got completely shafted card wise in that set. The fact people view 10 in a better light than 9 is disgusting
>>98407335Vivi at least carries IX from being utter bottom-of-the-barrel slop.
>>98407335I hate that this sort of bullshit is actually relevant to magic the gathering discussion now.
>>98407335>FF9 got completely shafted card wise in that setgavin felt that vivi was enough compensation
>>98407321https://gatherer.wizards.com/search?instanceSubtype=eq~Saga&colors=neq~U_B_R&page=1She'd probably be fine if there were more summons.Curious if we'll see another FF set, considering it sold so well and they're already doing another LotR set.
>>98407288I need to make a shitty proxy for this. Thanks for reminding me.
>>98407321>>98407334As someone who has this deck and barely plays it, its also the fact that its a deck built around a commander and requiring her to attack and live. So need need protection for her, combat tricks to either help her survive the attack trigger or cancel combat altogether.I had one good game with her where I got Commanders Plate on her early and was able to just keep resetting part 1 of Princess Takes flight to just constantly exile stuff. Other times people just instant remove her
>>98407335>>98407339I feel bad for my friend because Vivi is his favorite character and he made the deck only to never play it because even when powered down, its a disgusting instant win deck
>>98407335
>>98407362I made a Vivi deck with cards from the FF box and others I just happened to have lying around. It's very unoptimized.But it's still VIvi and he's still retardedly strong.I do get to play it occasionally, but it does make me the archenemy. I will say, playing against a deck that shat out -1/-1 counters did do a lot to keep Vivi from getting out of hand.
I genuinely don't understand how people don't see the irony in making these two statements directly adjacent to each other.>UB sucks. Magic's original story is better.>Magic's story was never good, but that's because WotC never invested in it properlyThis IP had 30 years to develop. It's very unlikely the 31st will suddenly change that. Magic writing seems to always live in this Potential Man state where the worlds seem like there's a lot of interesting stuff going on then the attosecond any of it gets examined more closely, the paper-thin worldbuilding starts to fall apart. Yeah no fucking shit WotC is treating UB like the favorite child when even the players see Magic's story as a dumpster fire.
>>98407379A TCG having some kind of narrative or story is fucking stupid to begin with. Having a setting with characters, lore etc is fine but its not a fucking book series. I don't give 2 shits what Jayce is doing Yugioh started doing that shit too when they made an anime for Skystrikers and Albaz shit and its gay as fuck
>>98407379there's a reason why they have their own dead containment thread
Fuck it, gonna make a non Magda dwarf deck
>>98407379Here's the thing.Put me in charge of Magic's story, and everyone would think it was awesome.All I would do is look at everything Ravnica and Kamigawa did right, and throw away everything they did wrong.The wild thing is every time they went back to Ravnica/Kamigawa, they took all the worst lessons. It's actually impressive just how badly they understood what parts of those sets were great and what parts were absolute shit.
>>98407406Probably not too hard to set up board states where he drops and all your dwarves get +10 or higher.
>>98407379Fallen Empires is peak magic
>>98407420Probably going to run Giott King of Dwarves as the commander, just posted him because he was a cool one from new set
>>98406492love me some slam pigs
>>98407458>>98407332based uncommon signpost players
>>98407213>Baral as the blue meanieO I am laffin
>>98407379Well, that's because you're the one making those statements. Magic's story was absolutely good, better than many of the UBs you love, but it was before you were born, so you don't understand that. The people who claim Magic's original story is better know it is because they were there.
>>98407288Free spells are broken?!Why knew!
Damn I'm really enjoying this guy, was able to take someone out t5 because he wasn't expecting a boardwide +6/+6 Trample
>>98407706he cute
>>98407335Eh, I have fun with my Zidane deck because it came off the coattails of my old Brion deck from way back when. It also helps that I like the guy.If you really wanna talk about shafted, look no further than FF5 (and 3 to an extent)>job system is just FF1 and FF14, not FF5 who began a good chunk of the iconic jobs>5 had jack-all aside from Bartz, Gilgamesh (twice), and Exdeath who can be somewhat feasible as a voltron finish with the right 99>Galuf/Faris/Krile all get a reference, Lenna is stuck in void jail
>unironic wakanda setthis game is so cooked fellow girlfriends xd
>>98407887>the wakanda themed marvel precon JUST SO HAPPENS to be the cheapest onehmmmmm noticing
Need more feet cards
How's this deck looking? I feel like I need more creatures.
>>98408152you need more dragons -or- the spider that shits on flying creatures.also, nice Ruby.desert and caves lands are nice, but, ya want the wolf run too.nice pix, got a moxfield list?
>>98407567>magic's story was good ok?!>can't give any examplesroru rumao
>>98407887>wakanda UB bad>wakanda UW good because it's made by troons from renton wa!
>>98403943i think ghalta and lathliss should fuck
>>98408268you can make an argument that ghalta is the only green commander that does what it does but i hate that there's no reason to commit to lathliss when miirym exists
>>98408242>>98407912>we need diversity>lets make a monoenthnic plane!If they were consistent I would at least respect them for adhering to their beliefs, but as always, the things they say are always whatever plausible deniability they can spout at the time
hopefully the wakanda set will get the noggyness out of the system for a while.- the art posting and bitching is gonna be amusing- hope it doesnt sell, or at least drop the price of cards with previous art.
>>98408416I hope it does well so there can be eternal bitching
>>98408152>deck literally stolen from content creatorsHoly slop
>>98407409>Look at everything Ravnica/Kamigawa did right...Nothing? Literally every Ravnica story consisted of nothing happening at all, unless you count MKM which I don't think you would because it was shit.
>>98408600This is slop: the format anon. Where do you think you are?
>>98408778It's also the one format where you can build your own deck instead of someone else's. Instead you built Salubrious Snail's list for casual play.
>>98408476Same. And has cards that are so good they become staples so they can whine that they "have to use them."
>>98408152So what does this deck do if your first two bombs get countered and you're stuck drawing lands and ramp for the next 10 turns?
>>98408824This already happens with UB where people say they'll never buy UB then Ninja Pizza becomes a staple in Food decks and there's an $80 print.
>>98408825>np you just cast your commander again->commander is 1/2 in a deck where the draw is based on powerhahahaha
this>>98408152reminds me of this>>98402493they run a lot of the same cards but it seems less fun to me than the partner one for some reason maybe because of >>98408798idk eceleb shit but I saw this deck almost 1:1 at the game store I play at before
>>98408798>>98408857https://youtu.be/ceILMLrNCGwIt was Radha, not Ruby.
>POV I dont like your commander
Any website that can tell me what my deck is lacking? or are them all just pure bs?
>>98408923Being good at Magic usually helps
IM SO EXCITED FOR ZHALFIR
>>98408904POV: You're Dr. Pavel and I'm CIA.
>>98408928That's the issue
>>98408923your deck lacks nothing because this is a casual game so you just being a warm body is enough winning is irrelevant so i'm told
precons are indistinguishable from bracket 3 decks now. they'll have too many taplands and one or two stinker cards from the set but otherwise they have juiced as fuck legendary reprints, insane card advantage, and some sort of game over combo that the card advantage will easily lead into. and they all shit out a bajillion token creatures
>>98408992precons are better than the average timmy's b2 and a b3 deck which is just "average timmy's b2 + 3 GCs" but i assure you they are not gonna win a b3 fnm
>>98409002yeah that's not the average b3 deck retard
>>98409007>precons are indistinguishable from bracket 3 decks now>*gets corrected*>...well, what i meant is that precons are indistinguishable from *THE AVERAGE* bracket 3 decks now hahaha...lmao
>"heh, you think your precon can stand up to MY bracket 3 deck? /:^) you have no idea how good decks gets kiddo"you retards are why the tiers immediately below cedh are always irrelevant.
>>98409016precons get booty blasted by kriik an amount identical to the amount most bracket 3 decks get booty blasted by kriik please divert money from your diet to a gym membership now.
>>98409018>"heh, you think your precon can stand up to MY bracket 3 deck? /:^) you have no idea how good decks gets kiddo"where's the lie here?
>>98408976beautiful words, anon.
>>98409027Everyone knows what optimal edh deckbuilding looks like anon you are not clever for knowing it, cedh lists are public information. The things that indicate an actual understanding of magic as a game is being able to make a deck that's appropriately matched to the context. No one is impressed you correctly identified the most obvious outlier cards in a format with 120 health to chip through.
>>98409038this might shock you given you're too busy negotiating for a draw in cedh (a hilarious state of affairs mind you) but people don't actually know how to port a cedh deck into a b3 deck
>>98408992Except my actual bracket 3 decks will rape most precons to death
>>98409062post it
What universes beyond do you guys want next? I hope we get a genshin impact set soon.
>>98408992Only only reason why this precon is powerful, is because lands strats are over tuned and WotC refuses to reign them in.>Mountain of "play additional lands a turn" and "play lands from graveyard" cards now>Nothing stops landfall other than literally 1 card in all of MTGs catalogue and its a 5 mana mono white legendary creature. Best you can do is play cards that punish you for playing lands like Dingus egg or that goblin, which is just a minor annoyance than an actual way to hinder them.>Land destruction is forbidden, which in theory would help, but not really. now their graveyard is just filled and they can just play them from there and recover quickly>Can thin their deck quickly because land tutors other than Crop Rotation aren't even sniffing at the GC list, though arguably, they fucking should because fetches that look for anything other than basic lands are uber powerful and everyone knows it in all formats.>Land decks will forever keep getting away with it because they don't print more cards that stop landfall or make cards that force players to only be able to play one land a turn, or god forbid, errata it so "extra land drops per turn" don't stack and only the one that adds the most is active.
>>98409090anime would be nice but harry potter asap to btfo the troons
>>98409103>>Land destruction is forbidden, which in theory would helpthis is how i know you're an idiot because the deck itself plays land destruction they actually like it if you blow up your own lands and gimp yourself you actual dingus
>>98409113>Doesn't know what "in theory" means>Cuts out the part directly after that where it explains, no, land destruction actually is good for land decks>Calls anyone else an idiot.>Doesn't understand its talking about land decks in general, not just the precon. which is only a powerful deck because its a symptom of a larger problem>Calls anyone else an idiot.
>>98409103There has to be some 3cmc white that just straight up locks all creature abilties?
>>98409125Mld was never "in theory" a threat against what is actually a graveyard deck you dingus, run gy hate
>>98409103My eyes glaze over when I see Ice-Tiller Explorer hit play. Such a pushed card for casual.
>>98409135If you meant humility, its 4 mana, And its also a RL $70 gc.
>>98409103>Player that you let ramp uninterrupted for 5 turns and play all their bombs also uninterrupted wins>Durr can't run MLD to stop it (btw pls ignore Aftermath Analyst and Splendid Reclamation raping my ass(0 IQ post
>>98409135well there's cursed totem and clarion conqueror
>>98409150There is always half a dozen cards that do the same thing a lil less efficient for 50 cents.
>>98409135>Ugh, playing the game is too hard. Is the a 3-drop that makes it so I don't have to play the game?
>>98409151>Let ramp>They play Azusa>You don't have a counterspell because you aren't in blue>They play three lands for turn and you don't ever get prio to stop them because playing lands don't use the stack.Sure, you can kill her if they have a land fall trigger which will give you prio, but they still got a ramp for free because you aren't blue, if you don't can't do anything to stop them from ramping.>>98409158Those stop activated abilities, landfall is a triggered ability, and "play addition lands" are not active or triggered abilities.>>98409167Feel free to find them.
>>98409174then you're stuck with humility unfortunatelyI've been begging for a "cursed totem but for triggered abilities" for ages, alas wotc does not share my hatred for triggerslop
>>98409174>They have no cards left in their hand because they used every card to ramp>They now have the most obvious chokepoint imaginable on their next 8-drop and will be stuck playing draw-go for 10 turns if you remove itI know it's sometimes really hard for retards to conceptualize different angles of attack, but this episode is old enough that doing even a tiny bit of research should help you figure this one out. Instead your first thought was going to a mongolian basket weaving forum and bitching about how the strategy is unbeatable instead of doing even a little research on if it's actually possible to beat.
>>98409187i agree trouble is just difficulty for non-blue to stop the 8 drop before it gets its draw trigger or whatever.
>>98409203Just too hard for other colors to stop an etb. Only blue can do it. No other way.
>>98409187>Just stop them >And if you can't stop them? Both because of your choice of colors or how mechanics of the game actually work>Then it's actually good because now their hand is empty!>What if they have a draw engine.>Just have it?!>What if I don't or they have protection?>OMG, you're so bad at the game, git gud. Do your own research!I can clearly imagine more angles of this than you can, which is why you keep just moving goal posts just to insult my intelligence.
>>98409210>Just stop them>What if I can't stop them>Then you loseYes anon. That's how Magic: the Gathering works. If you let your opponent win the game, they win the game.
>>98409209"Just have it" is by far the most 0 iq form of debate in this general.
>>98409218>Argument starts by saying there's no counter to a strategy>Counters get posted>"Just have it" isn't an excuse!The whole game is "just have it" retard.
>>98409216Welcome back to the start of the conversation, and the nature of land decks being harder to deal with and their power skewing greatly because they are so hard to deal with and why world seed is such a wilding overpowered precon, which other precons will much less be likely to "just have it." You moved goal posts so hard you put them back at the start.
>>98409222>Just be in these exact colors and have these exact cards, it's so easy!dunning kruger.
>>98409234Different colors shouldnt do different things?
>>98409225>Their goal is to be harder to deal withYou mean graveyard/energy/experience/storm? Put the fries in the bag little bro you're not him.
If a superfriends deck manages to shit out enough planeswalker value to take 2 extra turns and kill the entire table on their turn 5, is that too fast for Bracket 3?
>>98409297no
>>98409234>RedWin faster>GreenYou are the alleged problem>BlueCounter it>WhiteBlock etbs>BlackTHOUGHTSEIZE. FATAL PUSH. PIONEER TOP 8.
Is there any cards that actually stop opponents from making more land drops? This seems like it doesn't matter since it just lets them keep triggering landfall
>>98409352It's called creature removal.
>>98409234Let me guess, another mono red player who refuses to splash crying his color can't do something?
>>98409354I want to stop the farseeks and the fetches as well as the 2 lands per turn though
>>98407335FFX especially the international version is one of the greatest games ever made, and in the top 3 best final fantasy games. FF9 is a laggy slow, boring dog shit game and one of the worst in the series FF5 (one of the best) and FF3 (iconic 8 bit FF) were legit shafted, there is no Onion Knight card, no Onion Knight equipment, barely anything for FF5 when there should be tons of great stuff. Red Mage dual casting, or Geomancer terrain, etc etc nor actual legendary creatures for Faris and Galuf is criminalthe only real neat thing from FF5 even is the Gaelicat card which is a silly "deep cut" for fans but doesnt add muchof course FF7 is the greatest game of all time so its normal to have 3 Clouds 3 Sephiroths and 3 Tifas but 1 Butz and no Galuf is GARBO. >>98407325this is actually a great Saga from the FFX deck although I haven't really even played it yet I only put it in a black white knights tribal (squall seed mercenary) deck because it legit seems goodI like the red one "there and back again" but don't really play it much. Probably going to put it in a mono red Knuckles deck
>>98407340why? All modern fantasy stuff is based off Tolkien which by extension is like King Arthur and Merlin stuff. Dungeons and Dragons, Final Fantasy and Magic the Gathering are all inspired by thatFinal Fantasy is one of the closest IPs to the core of MTG, especially cards relating from games 1-10
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>>98409362Run Aven Mindcensor and other tutor hate.
>>98409443get in here
>>98409362what colors? this is my favorite >>98409409this is a great suggestion too for white. if in black you also get Opposition Agent which is on the "game changer" list, and in paper its kind of awkward to be manhandling other peoples cards. if youre on MTGO though its a great option and a much better experience to play but yeah I went through a phase of that wanting to destroy green land tutor ramping. theres also stuff like Narset's Reversal where you can return the spell but get to copy it so YOU get to ramp the lands. Just make sure the search target is valid, ie "a basic land" instead of a Forest and you have no forests in there or even duals with basic types like Breeding Pool. theres also cards to be able to steal spells in other ways but they're usually not super mana efficient like Knowledge Exploitation. Mind's Dilation a similar idea (and guaranteed to make your opponents, cope seethe and feel the need to dilate)
I was thinking on building my next Commander and I wanted something Voltron style. How's this for commander? Knights with free equipments
>>98409592She's fine. She was a brawl precon commander.
>>98409209three cards that can fight it meanwhile blue has so many a deck's expected to have like 4+ that do more than just silver bullet that one thing
>>98409592As long as you build her as Voltron and not knight tribal you'll be fine
this deck seems decent but I could never play it in person
>Takes several minutes to resolve generating each token because I have 5 academy manufactorsbig mistake...
