Battle for Skull Pass Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98421713>Thread Question:Which two armies would you like to see in the 2.0 TOW starter set and what would you like to see fielded by each side in the box?
I hate these tqs that are just about product product product for fucks sake. There hasnt been anything that tow has produced thats worth buying that arent the mtos and some of the older plastic miniatures.
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>>98436086made me sad. Not enough dead stunties
>>98436071The literacy crisis is tragic and seeing it even here is shocking
>>98436058>Which two armies would you like to see in the 2.0 TOW starter set and what would you like to see fielded by each side in the box?Dark Elves and Lizardscool factions and having restrainted from jerking off to images of Azura, I feel the urge to paint dark elves as dunmer
This was the coolest model warhammer ever made imo and the fact they only had it out for a short time before squatting the setting and then not bring him back is bullshitMy troll hag deserves a king dammit
>>98436214warnachine has you covered for your dogshit wants.
>>98436225>how dare you want a warhammer model in a warhammer game! Go play warmachineNigger sit down you are drunk
>>98436206based
GoblinsIs this list decent? Is it too many goblins? I really just wanted the squig herd because the one with the cymbals and broken nose is one of my favorite warhammer minis of all time. Would I be better with night gobbos and fanatics?Little Waaagh [750 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Orc & Goblin Tribes, Open WarGoblin Warboss, Light armour, Shield, General, Wolf Chariot, Trollhide Trousers, Da Choppiest Choppa - 193Night Goblin Oddgit, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], On foot, Idol of Gork, Fungus Wine, Waaagh! Magic - 1056 Goblin Wolf Rider Mob, Shields, Cavalry spears, Boss (champion), Musician - 7235 Goblin Mob, Shields, Full Command - 1226 Night Goblin Squig Herd, 1x Thrusting spears for Squig Herder - 643 Stone Troll Mob, Troll vomit, Light armour, 3x Great weapons - 1411 Goblin Wolf Chariots, Cavalry spears, Shortbows, 5+ - 53
>>98436086GLORY
Reminder gentle Asur, if some dwarf faggot brings up the War of the Beard, just ask how they managed to lose this place twice without reclaiming it even once.
>>98436455Dwarves can't help getting cucked, it's in their nature.
Waiting for my Chaos Warriors to get here is killing me. I just keep perusing the big pile of Nurgle bits I’m going to splice them with while I wait.
>>98436214It's okay.The chaos extra mouths look like shit for would require sculpting to fix.
>>98436691I got 10 Centigors and a Morheim warhound waiting for me at the psot office.
Getting any of the skaven MTOs?
Just in case beastbro is around here, how do you create the lore for your dudes you posted yesterday? Do you base it on games played or come up with it as you're building your army?
>>98437168lol no
>>98436214You can get a recast easily
>>98437168skaven is probably one of the few factions i never felt the want to start an army of
>>98437247I only buy official GW products straight from GW
>>98437168Nah, There were only 2 models in there that I wanted(Throt the Unclean and Nurglitch) and I found I already have scans of them.
>>98437340I also donate to their OnlyFans
>>98437357Does James have an onlyfans? Asking for a friend
>>98437203It's a bit of both. I started with the basics; where they are from, who the leader is and how he got to command an army.The rest came bit by bit as I thought of ideas, played games, and so on.Full fluff>https://files.catbox.moe/42uaso.pdfcool montage of my dudes>https://files.catbox.moe/k88kl1.mp4
>>98437350have scans caught up to accurate details or is it still a poor man's slop?
Obligatory post asking if the Cursed County pdf has dropped yet>TQEmpire and more Empire. Era appropriate civil war starter box, you can split it with a friend into two Battle March forces or use the entire thing as one army, like the Heresy starters
>>98437168It legitimately baffles me. Not that paypigs exist, but that paypigs can exist that are so deranged, depraved, and deprived of reason or self-control that they will willingly pay ebay scalper-tier markups directly to GW for ancient models that they could have gotten at any point in the last 20 years for a couple of bucks from a recaster - yes, even in metal - and in most cases printed themselves from scans practically for free at any point in the last 2-3 years.Fucksake I saw a guy locally spending so much on this shit during a previous MTO that he could have started up his own little recasting foundry for half as much. It's lunacy.
>>98437465Yeah why do people buy Vuitton bags or Patek watches when good enough Indonesian knockoffs exist?
"Rats in paradiseA loose corner piece illustration, sometimes there was a story behind some of these images hinted at by the inclusion of the other visual elements, I cant remember the specifics here but I’m fairly sure it was influenced by the marginalia on medieval manuscripts and books, some of which were rather subversive.I noticed that some of these stylistic border frames have blank escutcheons and others are plain, I seem to remember these to deliberately show some page numbers as part of the design when we planned the book layout, though without looking at it now I cant remember whether this was a consistent feature throughout.Ink on paper"
>>98437499this but unironically
>>98437515>the little rat in the little pulpit lmao
>>98437417They aren't touching the civil war because that's not heroic We're getting a siege of praag build up instead
>>98437400Well it's not 2021 anymore, so yes, scans have caught up in accurate details.
>>98437569During the Q&A, the GW marketing guys directly mention the War of Three Emperors as something they wanted to see more of.I don't think that would have been in their script for that video if they weren't going to do at least some content for it
>>98436058>TQI want Empire versus whomever else. Against Norsans would be interesting, following the Burning of Westerland narrative; separating them from WoC (like TWW) and adding units from the old 4th edition like Ulfwerenars.But really, I just want new Empire minis.>>98437417I'll second this request in regards to the pdf.
>>98437604>But really, I just want new Empire minis.Highland minatures bro
>>98437580I've yet to see one
>>98437614and Landor miniatures or One sin for seven kingdoms
>>98437604Do you reckon we'll see zombies like picrel as a dogs of war stole mercenary addition alongside a necromancer? Seems more plausible than Vampire Counts wholesale given AoS has those
Sorry, I'm a Warhammer Fantasy lore noob, is it a real train, or one of those pulled by horses along the road?
>>98437650A wagon train is a group of Carts or wagons travelling together for safety; it's not a train in the modern understanding of it.
>>98437615ok
Interesting topic came up the other day while playing 8th edition. When playing regular non competitive games (narrative or just for fun) do you tend to use named characters because you enjoy the official lore or do you create your dude and give it a backstory? A new guy turned up with his bretonnian army and the dude had researched his family's coat of arms and used the same colors and crest/blazon on his general. It was fucking kino
>>98437721Named characters are cringe and so is deviant art oc stuff. Just roll the flippin dice bro.
>>98437737Gay>>98437721I've always made up my own characters, never played any of the official special characters from any edition of whfb I've played. As a kid that was because I just couldn't afford it, when I was a young man I just didn't have any attachment to them as characters so I just didn't bother and that's how its stayed.
>>98437737>dicejust play real games like chess you faggot
>shugengans can't turn into dragons>there's no form inbetween the human one and the dragon one this is such bullshit
>>98437721Make my own desu, though I keep it brief.
>>98437663ah ok.. but then why it is called a train and not just a "caravan"
>>98437784idkIf I had to guess, it'd be because it's not going to sell silver; just deliver it from the mining towns to the guild hall in Salzenmund whereas a Caravan would suggest it's being sold
>>98437784Iirc train meant like a line back in the day
Are the regions of Cathay called "Provinces" plural because there are more than one province in the West or the East, or are they actually called "Provinces" plural despite being singular?
>>98437801each region probably has its own smaller subdivisions, for the sake of day-to-day governing, cathay is big
>>98437721My dudes are always my dudes. The very few times I've used a special character I've rewritten them to fit my army's backstory and just used the rules. I like official named characters as part of the world and background lore, but not on the tabletop itself.
>>98437801Technically, the Empire also has that, as there are multiple "provinces" within each elector state of the Empire.E.G. the Province of Sollond/Sudenland in the Elector Province of Wissenland
>>98437721Sure he did Then everyone clapped
>>98437721>>98437737Oc stuff is fine but if you can't explain your custom lore in 25 words or less, it's probably some asswank custom lore
>>984377211) where are you located 2) I'm like both >>98437759 and >>98437830.Never used them for the longest time because as a teenager i couldn't afford/justify the price (I'm paying HOW MUCH?! for a single infantry sized model) and as an adult never saw the appeal Once i started writing my own fluff and building lists solely based on it, it made absolutely no sense including SC; but i have written some unique characters, basically reskinning them just to use their rules for special scenarios and stuff.
>>98436214I was able to nab him off of ebay a few years ago.
Greenskins advance against the stunties (6th ed, 1500pts)
Has anyone else noticed that the new Chaos Warrior kits don't have any bare head options (except for the sorcerer lord on the dragon).They're all helmeted, unlike the SoC and AoS kits.
>>98438038Yeah and it sucks. The helmets are so goofy.
>>98438038Yeah, I guess they clothed their marauders too much, so of the warriors had open faces they wouldn't feel different enough
>>98438038that's how it should be. Faceless menace.
>>98437784That's what train originally meant though, the raily choochoo kind came later. WFRP often uses a slightly older registry of English because it fits the warhammer empire better, i don't care if illiterate/esl morons like you get filtered by it.
>>98438038I think that’s better. Chaos Warriors unironically shouldn’t be humanized. I don’t even like that the sorcerer has a bare head. He should also be helmeted.
>>98438038Warriors of chaos literally can't take their armor off.
>>98438013Those avatars of wars warriors are so good. They are probably the most 6th edition-looking dwarfs that exist.If they ever remake them in hard plastic I'd easily buy 3-4 more regiments, and this goes for all of their dwarfs.
>>98438148Warriors of Chaos have no helmet or ahield6options either, it's a shitty rushed kit with duplicate bodies and practically no options I really hope upgrade kits flesh it out
Can Brets take any zombies or undead like Mousilion?
>>98438235No, Bretonnian can't.
>>98438235it's been so fucking long since gw did some normal goddamn orcs
>>98438085>>98438113Space marine faggotry.
>>98438235This makes for a good conversion for big 'uns
>>98438298AoS has some, just bigger
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>>98438235>>98438417I genuinely dont see the appeal in these things. They look like shit as a base. and thats way too much fucking greenstuff work for basic units. The biggest issue with the new boyz though are their retardedly thin proportions.
>>98438413no, it really doesn't, ironjaws ain't it
I can explain the existence of female Knights of the Realm in Bretonnia, using my own experiences as a basis for the following example.>I have three children, all girls.>The first born out of wedlock; she is provided for from my estate (child support), but does not bear my name, she is of her mother's father's house.>The second is true born to my wife and I, she bears my name and lives under my care. She is a child of unusual talents and we expect a call from the Fey Enchantress or her maidens before she reaches age (autistic).>The third is but a babe, also true born, and will be the last of my children.The question then rises of who stands to inherit my lands?>My younger brother perhaps? But he only has one child, also a girl born out of wedlock. That only delays the issue.>My eldest is of my blood, but not of my name, furthermore I shall not allow her mother to lay claim to my estate.>My second will no doubt do great things, but they will be her own, and she will have no need of my name, she will be above the concerns of mortals.>The last of my daughters then. But why should she marry into another family and have them take my estate, ending my line in the process.My youngest therefore shall takes the Knight's vow and inherits my lands, her children will take my name and any husband she has will take my name, as his wife will be not Lady but Lord.
>>98438446troon faction.
>>98438444If you build them without the armour and slape scalemail on they're just biguns
Chaos dragon release when. Also I need that new AJ to see the new chaos warrior rules.
>>98438449Did you even fucking read it?
>>98438446>and will be the last of my children.why? you can always make more
>>98438458Why would you respond to bait?
>>98438424yeah I'm not kitbashing shit or greenstuff whatever that's a fucking chore man I'll buy something that's ready to go like highlands absolute state of people who think doing that shit is part of the hobby complete twats
>>98438459My wife had a difficult birth and can no longer have any more children.
>>98438456yeah, sure, if you resculpt them completely to change what they wear then they're totally normal orcs, you're absolutely right!
Making another rolling table, this time for the HElves. The 10 Inner & Outer kingdoms are of course included, but what should the other 10 spots be?
>>98438458I read enough after the first comma. Troon faction either way. More pozzed than custodes.>>98438463The bait is the one trying to justify the retcon>>98438456they're fucking korks dude.
>>98438470or just have shirtless orcs if you're a hobbylet
>>98438469Take a new wife then, this ain't the 21st century.
>>98438456this looks nothing like boarboys I hope brian nelson stays to age of smegmar because that's pure trash
>>98438457Maybe in two weeksNext week will probably be AoS Ogors or 40K Orks at this point
>>98438477last kino before the hobbylets cry about scratchbuilt banners or something
>>98438493>>98438477this genuinely looks like shit. The scale armor just looks out of place and I wont even get into how awkward that fucking shield looks. I want this dude RAPED by an actual gang of orks who can only use their tongues.
>>98438483The design cues of the armours can be objectively traced back to that kit, but boarboys work because they don't limit themselves to just that.
>>98438501Go back to /40kg/ with your retardation.
>>98438508being retarded would be pretending like these kitbashes/sculpting is worthy of praise. The actual orcs themselves are embarrassing to begin with.
>>98438501You’re just mad that they made them taller and you’re no longer represented outside the goblins in the army
>>98438473High Elf/Sea Elf coloniesSeveral of those got heraldry
>>98437036>10 CentigorsGood shit. Enjoy using a suprisingly better unit than people give it credit for.
>>98438235You cannot have undeads Bretonnians, but you can have Bretonnian undeads.
>>98438546they say the map is inaccurate about certain things
>>98438518re-read the post
>>98438424In fairness it isnt necessary to do this much sculpting to port them over. It could be sped up massively just by kitbashing with the normal WFB orc kits
>>98438473The 5 Gates (check "Uniforms and Heraldry the high elves" for the various Gates marking, flag and heraldy).Lothern / Glittering Tower.Colonies.
>>98438501>The scale armor just looks out of place
Do you think that if they released a magazine of that kind today (for TOW) it would work?
>>98438656Yes, but probably just for scalpers like the HAchette mags do for AoS and 40k
>>98438642Yeah but they don't have those in total war!
>>98438656They don't make them for MESBG anymore, that was a one off. AoS and 40k in rotation one, lasting one and a half years each or something. Can't imagine them squeezing TOW in if they don't run 40k and AoS concurrently
>>98437801Yes, each of the major cities is the capital of its local province. And the collective of provinces in each region make up the domain of each of the dragon children.
>>98438478It was harder/more socially condemned to do this in the medieval period than it is now. Marriages were far more permanent and everybody knows stories like Henry VIII because they were extremely rare, controversial, and significant.
Is there a book in the megas I should look for if Im wanting more information on the Border Princes and the Badlands?
>>98438715It was really only more condemned amoung the nobility. There is significant evidence of medieval couples breaking up and living separately. Even among the nobility it was not uncommon to see aside a wife and take up a mistress while not officially remarrying. Quite a few bastards took a place in lines of succession. William the conquerer was William the Bastard.
>>98438478I don't want a new wife, why would I stain mine and her honour? I already have one bastard prior to marriage, I don't want that reputation to worsen.>>98438715Correct. In this example I was not a commoner either, or it wouldn't matter anyway.>>98438748I have one bastard, I do not want more. Before long I'll be known as Sire of Bastards or something
>>98438743Renegades Crown for WFRP2eMaybe some BL books like Plague Demon since that takes place in the Border Princes
>>98436691Orcs and Goblins Battalion was meant to be here today but those useless slackers at USPS are well, useless slackers. Knock on wood, they hopefully do not lie about delivering it or lose it like they have my stuff before.
>>98438801thank you!
>>98438801Why is he looking back? Its like hes saying"Yep, were about to get fuck up in the worst way possible in the setting"
>>98438622Elves at the griffon gate litterally never got anything to do. They just spend the days playing bloodbowl
>>98438622Why are there no gates or passes on the eastern side of Ulthuan?
>>98438840because dark elves tend to have men at the helm of ships so they are less likely to get lost or meander.
>>98438776>I have one bastard, I do not want more. Before long I'll be known as Sire of Bastards or somethingYou want more than one backup son that's competent and smart. Your legitimate son is a drooling retard who will just be a figurehead for whichever one of your brothers offs the rest.
>>98438776>I don't want a new wifeyes, you do, for a heiryour reputation would be even worse if you have no heirs at all or try to parade a daughter like a son
>>98438852But aren't there also zero passes through the mountains on the eastern side as well?So if you wanted to go from the White Tower in Saphery to Tor Yvresse, you would need to go all the way to Lothern and go northeast to get to there
>>98438853I have no sons. That's the point of the explanation.>>98438862In real life medieval history, probably yeah. But in Bretonnia it's all romanticised (compared to history and fiction, not real life) and it's perfectly okay to simply love your wife and be happy with her, like I am. Bretonnians lords dote on their wives and are generally decent people.Again, not real life, it's just an explanation for the existence of female KotR.
>>98438884There are passes in the east but the only things coming from that direction are big stupid humans who don't pose a real threat to the center of Ulthuan. The west is constantly under attack from the Delfs (who are too stupid/lazy to sail around to the other side) so they put up the gates to protect themselves from the Bitch King and his incest mother.
>>98438901Oh, I forgot, it's not just humans, but one time there were goblins. But they didn't make it very far after they pissed off Eltharion.
>>98438897>in Bretonnia it's all romanticisedlol
>>98438901>There are passes in the eastI really don't think so.None are really mentioned either in BL books or WFRP sources, and if they are mentioned, it's generally a very perilous route that would only be taken in desperation, like the Chasm of Sorrows, which isn't really used for trade or military traffic due to it's small width
>>98438897>it's just an explanation for the existence of female KotR.a piss poor one that has to rely on exceptional misfortune and infertility
>>98438776I'm not saying you can't justify female knights but I don't think: >I love my barren wife too much to take up a mistress >Lmao fuck them kids tho, good luck lady knight Isn't a really great one.
>>98438449It's a troon game. Suck it up or go play warmahordes with the other macho men
>>98438938Yeah, the humane thing would be to just let a brother/nephew/cousin inherit. Trying to force knightly duties on a daughter seems cruel and deranged.
>>98438468>Hobbying shouldn't be part of the hobbyHoly tourist, this is exactly why the hobby has degraded into consoomer slop.
>>98438840Either:The mountain passes are too narrow to justify a whole Gate fortress.The mountain passes are too wide to be closed by Gate fortresses.
>>98438901>who are too stupid/lazy to sail around to the other sideHigh elven naval supremacy too. Black arcs cant ever be made again as silly as that sounds so its best to make war raids to Ulthuan land based asap
>>98438483That guy is a fucking hack who can't sculpt for shit, probably a dei hire. Hope he gets fired.Miss the days when gw did kino orcs like pic related
>>98438501>I want this dude RAPEDBeastmen player, no doubt
Interview with the head of C7 at Gencon, he talks a bit about TOWRPG and WFRP at the beginning.I don't think there is any new news; probably saving that for tomorrow for their Gencon conference C7 is holding.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu34Nky022w
>>98438656No way. Those worked because the prices were great. In fact those exact mags are what got me into the hobby.Magazines these days are still good deals but only relative to the actual kits and they'd just get scalped by faggots instead of reach the actual target audience.
>>98438982is there any actual support to the legend that ulthuan is the body of a gigantic dragon?
>>98439010forgot my pic related
>>98439024No
>>98437808>>98437845>>98438709I just wish we knew a little more about the constituents of Cathay, they don't feel like they have as much characters as the Dukedoms and Elector Provinces of Bretonnia and the Empire.
>>98439087ching chong ming ma dong jing ga ting lian tung majong ai-pthoooe
>>98439087There's at least 4 named ones in the last arcane journal >Sum Ting Wong>Wi Tu Lo>Ho Lee Fuk," and>Bang Ding Ow
>>98439087That would require GW to either allow BL or WFRP writers to get their hands on Cathay or GW to just make a fluff book like Grudgelore or Blood on the Reik but for Cathay
>>98439087You want impry that great Cathay not universarry sociarry harmonious? You pray dangerous game with sociar credit score.
>>98439116They did actually do this in the core set with „ Fung Kai’s „ warriors
>>98439185That's a legit Chinese name though.
>>98439116I those were the greenskin bosses in Cathay
>>98439098Heil Hitler to you too kind stranger.
I'm doing a modelling project of some Westerland Greatswords that are full committed to the Sea Empress. Other than a Marienburg colour scheme, how else do I really sell the idea that these guys are more Manann and less Sigmar?I'm thinking like fisherman's boots, maybe pirate hats?
>>98439346Have some Mannan holy symbols on them?So stuff like Tridents or five-pointed crowns on breastplates.Some of these would probably be easier in the painting stage rather than the modelling one though
>>98438919Chrace was always mentionned as serving as invasion route into the Inner Kingdoms .(also not how the map showing Dark Elves invasions have the new one attacking from the North East).
>>98439043SOVL >>98438456SL0P
>>98439346If you know a good recaster you could also throw in bits and pieces from Mannam's blades into your Greatswords.
>>98439480forgot pic*
Thoughts on using pic rel to make an Ogre legacy battle march army after replacing those shit circle bases with proper square ones??
>>98439907You're much better trying to find 2nd hand old models from paypigs wanting the huge box for aos. Also, personal opinion but they look souless compared to the old ones. Those cows are fucking hideous
>>98439907That's what I'm doing.
>>98439907ogres are ogres
>>98439907I’m holding out hope that they bring back the old Bulls and Ironguts for TOW specifically like they did with the old Night Gobs.
>>98439960It seems the obvious move, but in the 2,5 years of tow being a thing have they ever brought something back after aos wasn't using it anymore? Talking specifically about stuff refreshed during tow's lifespan.
>>98440011NTA but I think some legacy faction will return. I don't think ogres will return until all the old kits are gone from their range, so years still. I think the first legacy faction that will return will be either Dark Elves or Vampire Counts as they have all their older kits free
>>98439960I'm convinced they'll squat the old kits and sculpts as soon as they have established enough new products for the respective ranges, and in terms of orcs&gobs I'm sure they'll unceremoniously discard the night goblins and make up an excuse as to why they aren't at the forefront in this time period, and focus on normal goblins and/or hobgoblins.
>>98440011No, there's no faction overlap between the two.
>>98437515That pic my Friend, comes from the mordheim corebook, you can find all the art from it in the link in the first post.this link herehttps://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhand go in the main mega, under artwork
>>98438501Mandatory 'Post model' post
>>98440027>don't think ogres will return until all the old kits are gone from their range, so years stillIsn't it literally just the scraplauncher and thundertusk kits?
>>98440154Yeah, so I assume not before Ogres get their next edition in a few years
>>98439907I'd get the old ones or go third party. If your dead set on GW nuplastic they're not awful.
>>98439098
Whatcha working on anons, any progress? I got 10 bestigors and a shaman done this week
>>98439907Ogres frankly don’t look good in squares at all. Something about their bases just look something awful, doubly so when they’re ranked up. The older metals look better but that’s because they look more like humans.
>>98440468Meant to say 10 ungors
>>98438642They look like shit. Doesn’t matter if there is a precedent for it.
>>98440468I have 14 more Jade warriors and 1 cannon to assemble. I am very very slow. Then I have to figure out a paint scheme and learn how to do east asian bases.
>>98440529Have you considered bamboo
>>98440468Another day passes without my Warriors being delivered. I think I’m going to go to my LGS buy some Rotswords to make into Chosen while I wait. I have some of the old Blightkings that I was planning on making into characters because the models have so much going on, too.
>>98440532I have indeed, I like the fish aquarium bamboo decorations but idk how to incorporate that on infantry.
Currently I have/am working on:>30 Jade Warriors>3 cannons>gate master foot/horse>5 lancers>20 peasant archersMy plan to expand is to get the Battle March box when it comes out. That should give me enough Jade Warriors and a shugengen. What would you guys do to expand from there? I don't really want a balloon because I think the miniature is too large. Maybe a sentinel? I am tempted to get more peasant archers but I don't want to my army to be too cheesy.
>>98440568I do like the sentinal as a nice centrepiece model, and it's bigger than I thought it was looking on the website. You could even give it a big hat
>>98440592>You could even give it a big hatUnbelievably tempting.
>>98438622>>98438526>5 Gates>Lothern>High Elf/Sea Elf coloniesMakes sense. I think this is good.
>>98436214this is one of the few old models that actually holds up against new sculpts. really high quality design and the sculptor had a very solid grasp of anatomy and detail without devolving into needless texture like so many old metals and forgeworld kits used to
>>98438148Chaos is not uniform. Chaos armor is not standard issue.
>>98437391That's really cool anon. I'd love to make some thing similar for my armies.
>>98438148I know that's written in the lore somewhere but literally everyone can remove their helmet. Hell, Everchosen can remove their armor as well when they adopt the Armor of Morkar and Crown of Domination. And all of the magic armor in the arefacts section had previous owners so it'd be silly to assume everyone that wears one of those is only wearing chaos armor for the very first time.
>>98440533I know your pain, Anon. As is expected, USPS decided to let my package sit in the post office a fifteen minute drive away -and- said they do not do "non-emergency" at office pick ups on Saturday. Cunts. Tempted to order some Spider Riders or an Arachnarok and have it shipped by any other means that is not USPS.
Anyone ever thought about playing in 3mm?
>>98441866In 10mm with warmaster models. Is it viable?
>>98441866No because no one else does that. I wish it was more popular because that's actually a proper scale to play a war game and conduct battles as a general but unfortunately most people are just autistic about minis so we're stuck with skirmishes
Hey guys, look at this cool troll, don't feed it though.
>>98441936People ultimately want to be able to see the artwork reflected in the models, and that works worse and worse as you get smaller, to the point where I would never play anything smaller than 15mm
>>98441985Do stone trolls eat stone?
>>98438337Trvke
>>98440523Shit opinion, as expected
Working on my Swordsmen slowly, I'm up to 6 out of 19
>>98442017Nice work anon, keep it up
>>98441988You aren't interested in wargaming you're interested in toys
>>98438456This TRVKE really put the TWW secondaries on full dilation mode huh? Many such cases. r/totalwar will be in shambles.
>>98438656Man, I'm so mad there is no MESBG weekly collection, like those of Imperium and Combat Patrol.
>>98440721Rolling for princess flavor.
>>98441990Yes
>>98442044This.
>>98441990They eat everything, which is probably why the writers once considered making a canon connection between them and ogres.Which in the end didn't happen and instead we're still left with a big question mark on the true origins of trolls.
>>98439087Cathay has to be perfect to appease the chinese audience. You wouldn't want to hurt the feelings of the chinese people?
>>98442437I would
>>98442340updoot
There is such a simple wholesome joy in the battle for skull pass dwarfsMakes you yearn for years past (much like the dwarfs themselves I suppose).
Rolled 17 (1d20)>>98440721Let it ROLL! (for Chrace, hopefully)
It's funny how Chaos Warriors have been slowly getting buffed back to being closer to their 7th and 8th ed incarnations.
>>98438897>Again, not real life, it's just an explanation for the existence of female KotR.But those don't exist in WHFB either, troonanon. Some small few women choose, against all codes of honour, dignity, and faith to disguise themselves as True Knights in order to satisfy their own narcissistic desire to live contrary to their nature, but that doesn't mean they *are* True Knights nor that any would acknowledge them as such.Take your bow-wielding "femknight" poofery back to sigmarxism or bluesky or whatever inane pit of faggotry you crawled out of, you disgusting creature.
Bret’s are tranny coded with or without the retcon tbqh.
GAZE UPON MY STRIGOI ON TERRORGHEIST AND DESPAIR
>>98442582Mantic?
>>98442586lol noAs if mantic could make anything like that. I printed a long time ago, I don't remember the creator.
Made a fairly straightforward outcast wizard for my fledgling renegade crowns army
>>98442971The lightning "flowing" in a different direction to the robes irks me even though I know it has no real or fictional reason to.
>>98443038I mean I did test fit it the other way but it didnt loom right imo
>>98442836ohh i like these! never seen them painted as tarnished bronze before!>>98442451i love heroic scale simple monopose plastic minis!!
>>98442437Isn't spiritist media banned in China?
>>98443217No, ghost stories are still a thing published and made in China
Do we have any actual idea if cathay is actually selling any better than other warhammer products in china?Shouldn't we have shit about it in investor reports by now?
Battalion box update picture, only 10 ungors, 15 gors and 6 minotaurs untill I have a fully painted 1250 points. I have some warhounds and a cockatrice arriving Tuesday to begin bulking up the force
>>98443234No. Games workshop doesn’t ever put specific product line sales into investors reports.
>>98443254Looking good Anon! Got any fluff for you goats?
>>98443259Don't they at least put sales by continent? shouldn't we have seen a marked increase in asian sales after the release of cathay if the aim was to hit that target demographic?
>>98443265Half thinking of it as I go along, big outlines are somewhere in Bretonian because of my BSB, and the Bray shaman dominating the will of monsters and using them as shock troops. I want to work something in with ghemistnacht but I haven't gotten that far yet
>>98441869Im considering giving it a try. Im gonna be halving all ranges and treating infantry stands as 6 models, with cavalry stands being 4.
Playing around with bits to make me a baggage trainIll probs put a fat merchant dude and scribe on it.
More TOW stuff next week>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wqyc09cx/sunday-preview-chaos-reigns-in-the-world-of-legend/
>>98443481They really couldn’t have given the dragon an alt build? It’s gonna look so derpy having 3 of them on the table. Looking forward to what the aj has tho.Anyways I wish I could forget about this thing.
>>98443481What would be the best to purchase if you already got the Warriors half of the core set in order to make a full army?An addition set of knights and the champion?
>>98443254Greater Bray shaman your general? Looks good! Grab 10 Centigors if you get a chance and you're set for a long time. Just as a general question for everyone, I personally use my Ghorgon as a Greater warp demon from time to time since it's the same base size. Anyone care?
I will be honest with you guys. After playing Battle March for the last two weeks, I don't feel any urge to go back to full-sized games.
>>98443529more knights but I'm not sure you would need more warriors
>>984435293 dragons >>98443539I feel the same way but for different reasons I’m sure.
>>98443481They're also doing a Beastmen Loremaster video on Warhammer + presumably it's just going to cover all the Beastmen lore from the previous TOW book and maybe some of the new stuff from the AJ
>>98443492>having 3 chaos dragons on the table
>>98443557Is WHTV like... worth anything? How many things get ripped for torrents? I'd be interested in seeing that beastmen vid.
>>98443569With aspiring champions I think it’s possible but chances are you are bringing 2 and someone else is bring another. Though that depends on it being a mirror match. 3 probably isn’t that good anymore anwyays.
>>98443590They sometimes get ripped if you ask nicely
>>98443481>chaos battle march box has disgusting marauders in itI bet I can still get the chaos half of the starter set for a decent price
The new models are really busy. It's like they fear people will feel ripped off if every surface isn't sculpted.
>>98443492>They really couldn’t have given the dragon an alt build?They should have put an extra sprue in there to make it possible to make Galrauch out of the kit.
>>98443777i think they just intend for people to build Galrauch out of it anyway, since in the Sunday preview article they say>You can also build the dragon without a rider if you want it to fly free – or maybe to represent the infamous Galrauch.So I would guess they are getting rid of the older metal Galrauch model
>>98443539I'd agree. I generally play small battles anyway at 1k. 1.5k once in a blue moon. I much prefer small point games and assuming you have someone also looking for a mutually chill game, its the best.
>Follow the relentless assault of Chaos against the civilised lands in Arcane Journal: The March of Chaos. This 48-page book is packed with lore, new rules for creating your own Chaos Champions, expanded Winds of Magic mechanics, and much more – it’s an essential read for all aspiring servants of the Dark Gods.Any idea what the expanded WoM mechanics are about?
>>98443869roll 2d6 at the beginning of the turn to see how strongly they blow and what disciplines they buff, roll high and wizards cast up to twice as much as normal, roll low and they can't cast shit
>>98438672?
>TK one (1) weakness is muh marching>They charge just fine and often just march anyways because of their comical high LD+free reroll on everythinglol
>>98444009TK have shit leadership, which is irrelevant to them marching anyway because it requires a spell, not a leadership check.
I was too lazy to start assembling the Duke so I started painting another batch of men at arms instead.
>>98444056Oh wow really? Yet every fucking TK player magically gets their bullshit healing and my will be done.EverySingleTurnOn 9+What """""shit""" LD
>>98444056Also by I mean their bonus movement, which is just how they march. No TK takes any time getting up the board, ever
>TK go from utter dogshit in 8th to good in TOW>shitters moan and piss themselves endlesslyBoy, I sure can't wait for my main army to be unplayable again.
>>98444122Good, fuck your army. Nobody likes undead. You ignore half the rules in the game.
>>98444097>Also by I mean their bonus movement, which is just how they march.No. +1D3 M is not how they march, they march by casting the reserve move spell.Their healing isn't done on 9+ (leadership are not X+ they're X or less) and in the case of arise it's 8 or less for the high priest or 7 or less for the regular priest.There are things to point out regarding undead in general but you don't even understand the game so you don't have any right to bitch yet. You most likely lost because you suck.
>>98443569That gives GW €450 for no good reasonA single Chaos Dragon is priced at €150
>>98444134Nigger its hyperbole. Yes, it's not literally marching. It's effectively marching. You get up without a problem. You charge without a problem. And you still ignore half the rules in the game
>>98444167>Nigger its hyperbole. Yes, it's not literally marching. It's effectively marching.No it's not+1.5M is not effectively marching. Having reserve move is, however, effectively marching without literally marching. Nigger.
>>98444177*+2 M actually, don't know why I wrote 1.5
>>98444122Not me anon, I just bought the TK core box yesterday.
>LGS has some old AoS Ogre bundle boxes shelfwarming still.>Heavily considering buying them.>Just started new armies in Fantasy and 40k in the past months.>FOMO has me tempted.Man, this sucks.
>>98438069>The helmets are so goofy.Bro, you're playing Chaos. You picked the evil 7 foot tall 4x Satan worshiping full metal knights covered in spikes and skulls. You've lost all right to complain about goofy. The helmets are literally the most average chaos design of all time.
Does the Razor Standard work with shooting weapons?
>>98444302Because it doesn't specify only in melee, yes, it does.
>>98444257If they have Leadbelchers I would get them. Personally I regret not getting them when they were on the shelves when I had the chance.
Has anyone been working on any terrain recently?
>>98444310That is what I thought, but decided to ask to make sure I was not missing something. Thank you!
>>98444318And because it gives it to the unit, not the weapon, if the unit causes Impact Hits or has Stomps, they also gain the benefit of the Armour Bane. And yes, Amour Bane does stack.
>>98444314lovely
>>98444328Incredible! Thank you. That sounds nasty.
>>98444314That's very nice piece of terrain. Reminded me of sniper elite for some reason and made me want to replay it
>>98444122Ignore those losers. Tomb kings are based and deserve their spot in the sun.
Fuck it, ordered the old Ogre Start Collecting box from my LGS. Sadly they had just sold the box of Leadbelchers that had been gathering dust.
>>98443459this is great. thank you for not buying gws baggage train and making something cool instead.>>98444314also mega based anon
>>98438038Speaking of head options, why the hell do the warriors have no extra heads, while the knights have an absurd number of extras? It's not a huge deal, but it's a strange decision.
seems like C7 will release the WFRP 5e Core Rulebook in the next three weeks, since on their socials it says this and has this image.>The new edition of the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay Rulebook will be released in PDF and available to pre-order in hard copy.So expect the core rules soon, hopefully.Wierd they release a couple of splats beforehand though
>>98444492Yeah, I noticed that. I've used some of the Knight heads for my Chaos Warriors.
>>98444475What's wrong with GWs baggage cart?
>>98444600tf is wrong with gw's horse
>>98444621Idk, ask the Perry bros.
>>98444621I think its meant to be a jackass. Most baggage carts would be pulled by oxen or asses
>>98444632The real jackass is whoever is spending money on that shit LOL
>>98444645>he's poor and can't afford itlmaoing@u
>>984446453dp 4 lyf
Any recommendations for 3rd party helmets and shields?
>>98444869This was supposed to say Greek/hoplite helmets and shields.
>>98444887Victrix does a lot of those in plastic
>>98444869>>98444887What are you converting?
>>98445076High elves
>>98445119There are seven helmets according to the other pics.https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-exalted-warseers-miniature-heads-806798
Howdy WFG, I'm seeking some fellow hobbysts'advice. I will soonish receive several of picrelated.I love Nick Lund's dwarfs and cant wait to paint these and add them to my collection.I play 8th edition, and will incorporate them in my games. Now, i could just run them as filler in a unit of quarrelers, or use them in lieu of a bolt thrower.While the easiest solution, it's also pretty boring.I was thinking of making sone rules for them. I could run them either as individual units of light artillery (a S5 shot with no armour save maybe?) or as an upgrade for a unit of quarrelers (counts as a sniper?), maybe some sort of anti-air defence. Or something similar to skaven's weapons team. Any idea/suggestion?Idk, they're pretty cool looking and i think they deserve their own rules.
>>98445375140 pounds for a battle march armyComes to 265$ Can.maybe it's because they're new sculpts, and they wonT' charge as much for the other battle march boxes, right?Right?
>>98445431Those are euros dummy. It comes out as 5 euro more than a combat patrol. So probably $10 Canadian more than a combat patrol.
>>98445375I was hoping for slightly less but I guess it's to be expected. I'll still probably pick up the O&G one, but only one for now.
>>98445434226 instead of 265Still maddening.Althought better bang for buck than buying a battaillon box for both my armies (beastmen+Empire)
>>98445460No it's going to be $215 at most. Currency conversion doesn't matter, relative pricing does.
>>98445375Man thats gross. I dont see myself getting these boxes anymore.
>>98445143These are great, thanks!
The O&G BM box actually addresses some holes I have in my army, but the amount of each unit is a bit awkward. I'd definitely want bigger bricks of boys and pig riders, so the options are to either buy an extra box of each anyway, or a second BM box. But it comes with THREE characters. I don't want duplicates, especially of that goblin shaman. And if I'm not using them, the value drops fast.
>>98445522Coming from someone who ended up with 5 bray-Shamans I understand.They should fall back to selling units in groups of 10 or 20 instead of 30 for 3$ a pop
>>98445522Two goblin shamans can be pretty useful though. The only real issue with doubling the box is the second BSB in my opinion. If you mod him somehow for like a choppiest choppa or something that would be good.
>>98445375Damn that dragon must really be massive
>>98445540I guess, I just don't love the model and I don't want two characters that look the same. Guess I could use a second one for bits, or some kind of conversion down the line, but it still feels like a waste. And I already have like 15 different goblin character minis.>The only real issue with doubling the box is the second BSB in my opinion. If you mod him somehow for like a choppiest choppa or something that would be good.I do kind of like having multiple versions of BSBs actually, for different flags. Wouldn't use both at the same time though.
>>98445375>$80 for 16 warriors
>>98445583This is literally not news, we've known this since the summer show
>>98445375>the dragon is more expensive than the battle march boxMaybe I don't need a dragon after all.
>>98445375Crazy how good of a deal the Core Set is. Surprised it isn't a fomo box at that price.
>>98445637Historically, 2 players starter set were always priced very aggressively.I remember the manager at the GW i used to go complaining about o&g being in 2 consecutive starter set (6th and 7th) because it meant that many players would just buy a set or two and trade parts with friends without ever buying much else. He was upset about there being a troll in the skullpass box because then basically no one would be buying the metal ones.I remember him making passive aggressive comments to a kid (couldn't have been older tha 14) about his scratchbuilt goblin artillery, some snide remark about "starter players".Or he'd be going on a tirade about space marine players who coudl get aways with just buying a tank and a dreadnought and the living off starter sets miniatures forever.Long story short, i stole multiple dozens of skullpass dwarfs from the store (there were hundreds just piled unpainted in a cardboard box under a table) and never went back.Now, 20 years later I'm almost done painting them and have not given a dime to GW and instead always only bought used miniatures. I guess he was kind of right, after all.
>>98445782can we see the dwarfs
>>98444670Just impulse bought another $4000 precision hunting rifle a few days ago. I assure you I can afford some toy army men. That doesn't mean the price is reasonable. Getting ripped off and buying something that's blatantly overpriced doesn't mean you have money, it means you're retarded
>>98445845>Getting ripped off and buying something that's blatantly overpricedNigga this is a luxury superfluous hobby, comparing GW sculpts to shitty historical sculpts is silly. If people wanted to save money buying cheap historical sculpts, you'd see it widely adopted. But almost no one does it, because people want Warhammer miniatures and enjoy Warhammer miniatures not gay ass histslop.
>>98445375Fucksake. Nearly 3 quid per warrior, more than a tenner per knight, and that's after online retailer discount. They're nice minis but not that nice.
>>98445879>more than a tenner per knightIt's a good thing you're so retarded that you out yourself in your false flags in hilariously retarded manners.
>>98445859No one mentioned historicals, you just outted yourself a having PDS (Perry derangement syndrome). It's not just historicals that are more reasonably priced, it's literally all miniatures in existence outside of GW. Willingly spending 10x the price of any other miniature manufacturer simply because of Brand Name™ attached to it just means you're a slavish bugman. Same type of nigga that's obsessed with apple products for other reason that the logo attached to it
>>98445918You're the only deranged person here. You literally spend your free time (and have for over a year) in a place you hate, because you are upset that people enjoy Warhammer/TOW/Fantasy. Instead of moving on and spending your free time playing by yourself with your historicals you spend your free time in a far larger and more successful games community. You are genuinely pathetic and have used that image before in your melties.
>>98445782Aggressively sure, but at these solo prices you're basically getting the Cathay half of the box and the rulebook for free even using discounter pricing. Even at the bargain basement rates they're currently going for on ebay thanks to the set, you can probably make back a third of the value selling that Cathay half, maybe even push it above 50% if you also sell the rulebook. If you collect Chaos there's basically zero reason not to buy at least one, and if you collect Cathay you'd have to be mentally crippled not to pick up a couple of them since the Warrior half will go for much more, you'd probably end up with most of an army almost for free.It's bizarre to me that they'll offer such huge discounts in the combo boxes when they would still sell with a more reasonable discount, and regular kits at a slightly better price would shift more units overall. And the usual "they're maxed out on production capacity so they can set whatever prices they like" line doesn't work when they're putting those same brand new minis in the starter box.
>>98445794I was about to post them, then i realized that having my miniatures (painted in a style that's fairly unique and easily recognized) associated with a story of me stealing stuff from a store isn't the best course of action, since it's kind of my side job (hobby focused instagram account and YouTube channel).
>>98445895Okay a fiver per knight(I was looking at the starter box instead of the warcom article, eat my ass), that's still fucktarded paypiggery you simpshit.
>>98445950I can understand why someone who can't do basic arithmetic would think that's expensive, you can't make all that much money with your maths skills.
>>98445938Fair
Gonna order a dragon, the champion, and another round of knights next week
>>98445965I am considering getting more knights and warriors (I bought the core set) but idk if it wouldn't just be better to grab the BM army. Surely I don't need more than 24 warriors and 8 knights?
>>98445927I'm not perryfag, moron
>>98445976>I am not the shitposter I just happen to use the same shitpost images he doeslmao
>>98445965I don't play WoC but I think I am going to buy the dragon because it is magnificent. A painting project if ever there was one.
>just got laid off>right as Warriors of Chaos are droppingPain
>>98446006>laid off Should have chosen a less disposable career. It is literally unlawful to fire me
>>98446006They’ll be around for many many years anon. Who knows we may even get a Christmas box this year and chaos would be a prime candidate
>>98446048>Christmas box Doubtful.
I think I will buy a second Orc and Goblin box.
>>98444600I don't understand this spam because you post it even when people talk about making their own baggage trains. People are literally doing the thing you want and you still spam it. That's not how stimulus and reaction are supposed to work.
>>98444403I support your decision anon
>>98446420Thanks bro. Next goal is to get war machines and the Shaman and Warboss on their respective Wyverns.
>>98446006Hey on the upside you can paint/sell your backlog now
>>98444166Whats that going to be in dollars? $200?
>>98446595175
>>98446474That wyvern looks highly unstable.
>>98446414
>>98446696Just like me in real life. A perfect match, lmao.
>>98444314Some breached walls for my clubs siege event next month.They use Renedra castle breaches as the base, but I built an expander to go in the middle, and modified the height and ramparts to match my GW fortress.
>>98444621The mule is from Mydas the Means paychest. In fact thats a conversion done way back when and which you can find in The Generals Compendium
>>98445957>looked at the wrong image>hurr durr yu can't maffI understand why someone with such terrible reading comprehension would also be so stupid they could defend GW's pricing, don't worry one day you'll grow up and develop a kernel of self-respect.
>>98446745Incredible! This is awesome
>>98445375So the Battlemarch box is only €10 cheaper than the current Battion box...That feels like a rip off
>>98447333It's the same exact story every time they rebrand bundle boxes, it's only an excuse to cut savings.
>>98447336The new Necromunda bundle seem a pretty good dealSo I'm not sure why the Battle March Boxes are priced like Combat Patrols.
>>98447347Numunda players don’t typically buy the models from the system and usually use third party. Only space cops and votann really get sales.
>>98447347The necromunda bundles suspiciously look like an attempt to sell as much of the old kits before they're phased out for the new shrimplified stuff they're beginning to put out for the new ruleset.
>>98445782>complaining about marinepiggies not spending enoughMust've been a dire store
>>98443275The target audience is American Asians, not Asian Asians.
>>98443481>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wqyc09cx/sunday-preview-chaos-reigns-in-the-world-of-legend/>Arcane magic ploysMight actually be fun as the magic system is pretty darn boring currently.
>>98445375>it's better value to buy the core set and just sell off the cathay half even for way under pricehahahaha
>>98447504The only problem is finding people who actually want to play cathay
>>98447512finding people that want to play cathay that don't already own what's in that box*
>>98447504The problem is every other guy has the exact same idea
>>98447571Pretty much. It baffles me why they didn't refresh the models for any of the most popular forces of fantasy armies. New empire state troops or high elf models would've sold like hot cakes.
>>98447527or would even want what's in the box. People who play cathay already own 3 shugengan 3 canons and 3 lanterns
Is there a pdf of the updated core rule book?
>>98447694only comp-fags. normal people only have one shugengan and lantern.
>>98447885Normal people don't play cathay
>>98447888Normal people don’t play Warhammer in the first place
>>98447913Right, they just buy minis
Holy fuck lads, my Orcs and Goblins Battalion arrived today and I have not seen this much plastic in a single GW box since I was a kid. Let alone for the price!
>>98445927desu I'm completely okay with bitching about things about people having a love and investment in. I see it as a mark of caring about the subject, as long as it's not mindless vitriol.Friends and aquaitances have come to me about buying gdubs products despite bitching about them because I'll still help them shop for what they want. This has only got worse however because my LGS manager and some store goers (including post Critical Role crowd) drank the political kool-aid of the past decade and see any criticism, no matter how small, as a great offense. And no I don't bitch loudly and in front of customers or all session wrong. Had plenty of customer service in previous jobs and often help with some of the customers during busy times with permission.
What do you guys think of the Lustrian Dwarfs? even though they were introduced by CA
>>98444632>>98446888I'm pretty sure your right but they should have exaggerated the ears, especially for the cartoony world of warhammer
>>98448986More for the bowl.
>>98448986I don't mind dwarfs having ventures into lustria, it's good that factions push out of the boundaries of their stereotypical setups but also you shouldn't consider the mine of bearded skulls an actual dwarf settlement, total war used the name and spot for one, but it isn't
>>98449241The Mine of the Bearded Skull is part of the Greater Karaz Ankor promised to Dawi kind thousands of years ago
>>98448986Karak Zorn if you want jungle dwarves.Its in the southlands, long abandoned (I think durring the war of the beard?) and is believed to be the first dwarven hold.
>>98449259I'm sure they were
Speaking of dwarfs, i remember back in 2014, before the 8th ed armybook came out, there were talks of dwarfs getting a brand new monstrous infantry or monster kit in the form of runic golem.I always imagined them being the dwarf version of what the cathay sentinel ended up being.Nothing ever came of it, but I'm surprised the idea was not explored in AoS by GW.
>>98447888Untrue. New miniatures attract normal people.
>>98449327It did for me. Well that and being plastic.
>>98449273Zorn was abandoned before that, I think, since it's an almost mythological hold for them
>>98449471>>98449471>>98449471>>98449471New
>>98444621It has autism
>>98449241>SheI'm so fucking tired of DEI
