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>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
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>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
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>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
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>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What commander in the coming sets will you be building?
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>>98445600
battlechads get in here
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How do I make the most annoying control deck possible?
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>>98445619
You don't because it's slow and bad.
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Nth for they fucked up the fucking puppeteer themed theft commander I have waited literal years for by making her fucking monored and therefore fucking garbage at keeping your opponents permanents long enough for their triggered abilities to even trigger
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>TQ
Despite them being bad. I will build this and Everforger.
>>98445586
>I will complain about the price of cards until they are free, and then I will complain anyway.
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>>98445619
Well you start with the OG for one.
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>>98445639
livingweapondoubters in absolute shambles right now
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>>98445640
No one will want to play against this, Venser you can sneak by people.
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>>98445645
Can you post the Brokkos and Yuriko card if you have it? I really need to get around to saving it.
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>>98445645
She's not really a living weapon commander. She's every weapon BUT the living weapons commander.
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>>98445655
The already living weapons are still phyrexains, and she is still a lord.
I get was you are saying, but its not like they don't get any benefit for being in her deck.
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>>98445653
Welcome to removal tribal.
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>>98445662
They suck ass in the deck because living weapons suck ass (except Batterskull). You need a very specific sort of deck to profit off their mechanic.
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>>98445654
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>>98445665
Do they all really? In her deck? Do they all really?
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>we got a fucking Crab and Starfish based commander before a Skeleton one
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
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>>98445693
>hey you know what mechanic the people want more of? saddle!
Waste of a card slot
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>>98445696
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We're so back bros
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This is actually incredibly based
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>>98445671
Thanks king
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>he mentions "combo lines"
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>>98445693
>Jandor
holy shit what is this, Deep Cuts: The Set???
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>>98445701
This gives me hope for some of the other alchemy cards, especially Providence of Night. Good for that one anon who wanted this guy on paper.
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>>98445702
Until you remember all the best stuff to get and free equip are all in colors and he costs fucking 6.
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>>98445722
I care more about the robot side than the equipment side desu
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>>98445702
>6 mana
>No protection
>Do this only once each turn
Garbage.
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>>98445719
>they continue to smell
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>>98445720
>Good for that one anon who wanted this guy on paper.
There's dozens of us! We need more Keywords-Matters commanders like Ognis. Give me something fun to build around instead of a certain creature type
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>>98445729
Ikr. Wouldn't even see play in rogsi. Complete babyshit.
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>>98445619
>boring "we did it, we found a combo with persist" commander who is also a Conjurer's Closet

>>98445631
>mono-red do-nothing commander

>>98445639
>equipment pile commander to go with the 500 other equipment pile commanders

>>98445693
>the one oddball tribal commander they've posted so far that has an ACTUAL payoff with mechanical play to it

>>98445696
>based lineup of creature types
>just some mill slop payoff

>>98445701
>generic alchemy x-strike tribal

>>98445702
>just an artifact pile commander
>no reason to play it over any among hundreds of commanders who play better into a specific strategy

>>98445708
>5 color

>>98445719
>novel one-trick pony

This set sucks.
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>>98445736
fuck off
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>>98445736
fuck off .
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>>98445736
Someone get the autistic back to the ballpit.
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>>98445736
Based rogsi slopper
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>>98445733
Anon, that's every non-tribal deck
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>>98445600
Based
>TQ: What commander in the coming sets will you be building?
The 5-color commander 'walker is very, very tempting. Not especially practical, but who cares?
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>>98445736
BASED
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>>98445736
Fuck off, Randy.
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>>98445752
Well, there's your female demon, waifufags.
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>>98445752
she looks so unsexy..
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>>98445736
Yeah I'm not sure what people are getting so excited over. The legendaries aren't interesting at all. Like look at
>>98445752
it's effectively a 5/3 with menace that sometimes just loses you the game. What the hell?
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>run every sphere of resistance effect in these colors
Yeah I think I'm cooking
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>>98445736
>>mono-red do-nothing commander
Yes, exactly my fucking complaint. Waited years for a theft commander themed around puppets and it fucking sucks.
Monored isn't a good color for this in the first place, and only doubling triggers when you don't even know if you'll have any triggers to double is total ass.
Why she isn't rakdos I will never know. She exists to go in the 99 of better commanders
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>>98445745
As much as I hate his abilities, I fuckin love Arzakon.
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>>98445768
How about the other puppetmaster (also monored)
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>>98445736
>No one told me these were good yet, so I must say they are all bad.
Slopbrained.
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>>98445772
This card ALSO does nothing.
>ok guys I'm casting a spell does anyone want to help
>no
>your commander is a vanilla 1/2 for 2
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>>98445777
My brain told me these aren't good you fucking idiot. Read the cards and you'll agree. The cards don't lend themselves to interesting decks.
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>>98445778
Must suck being an asocial retard
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>>98445774
Cool proxy
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>>98445772
This will do nothing 95% of the time
>Mono color
>Once during YOUR turns
>Pay off is a single card
Goddamn.
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>>98445778
A much better argument would be that, at vest, this card is drawing you one extra card each round and making one spell each round cost 1 less to cast, whichnis shit, and for opponents, paying 1 mana to draw a card each round is a pretty great deal when they need draw.
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>>98445736
>ACTUAL payoff with mechanical play to it
>draw card and food token
Slopper confirmed
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>>98445757
Davriel makes her dress that way.
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>>98445790
The interesting part is the saddle-pump aspect and how you're going to strike a balance on your board.
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>>98445769
He's so sick looking. After so many le relatable humans and the occasional furry DEMONIC GOLDEN MUSCLE SKELETON is so refreshing. Also very fun to have a five color walker who is just out and out villainous.
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they tried it with this shit before (PLEASE play our meme archetype NO we will NOT make it anything other than a repulsive clown)
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>>98445702
After I let my NEW CARD HYPE vision wear off the "any color identity" ability feels like a trap given the "any basic land cards" condition. People may be tempted into building a 5 color deck but you wouldn't have access to all the fancy nonbasics that make a 5 color manabase work smoothly.
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>>98445812
I don't like this card
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>>98445810
It is a trap for 5c piles, but with just basics you can function a 2 or even possibly 3 color deck with him.
Probably going to try Mardu with him myself.
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>>98445804
You think the higher ups demanded ginger representation all those years and there was a little misunderstanding?
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>>98445663
This would be a fun card if you didn't have to pay for the fucking muktikicker AND the spells
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>Buildergang Brothers
>1WUG
>Goblin Advisor
>2W: Each player creates a 1/1 White Citizen token.
>2U: Each player creates a Shard token.
>2G: Each player creates a Treasure token.
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>>98445693
I hate mounts and vehicles like you wouldn't believe. Worst card type in the game that the design team keeps cramming down our throats.
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>>98445832
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>>98445832
The one fun commander in this set.
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>>98445839
*clears throat*
Ahem
>>98445838
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>>98445719
Gonna put it in my cat queen deck and have her brap all over the other players
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New reddit commander
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>>98445843
Her payoff is so shit that you'd be better off just taking the "at random" theme and running a commander that synergizes in some roundabout way.
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>>98445848
isn't this just Rin and Seri?
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>>98445823
Flavor is kind of weird but I like the concept.
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>>98442825
Damn anon i actually never thought about it that way.... guess i need to resctructure my deck now....
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>>98445772
Yeah non-forced politics is shit in this game. Your average player is too retarded to take good deals and there's a lot of players who are too smart to take bad ones.
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>>98445855
Godlike oldmagic type art, only gripe is real oldmagic would have some cleave at this angle
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>>98445838
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>>98445860
>real oldmagic
Anon, Quinton Hoover died thirteen years ago. That art WAS drawn in the oldmagic era.
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>>98445823
more like Balefang the Unplayable lmao
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>>98445855
Angels always get shit cards.
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>>98445860
This art is older than you.
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>>98445867
More like Balefag the Unfuckable lmao
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>>98445870
It's not, because I'm old as dirt but it's from before I played Magic. I'm surprised the boobage is so tame. On the other hand I see nipple indentation.
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>>98445853
>Flavor is kind of weird
Huh?
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>>98445851
More less, honestly I think its better.
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>>98445870
the new card shrank her breast.
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>>98445882
>it summons a baneslayer angel but the angel is goaded so it can't do its job of fighting the DEMON DRAGON barring really weird circumstances
Tbh they should have just made the dragon stronger and made the Baneslayer completely unrestricted so it was a plan-around.
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>>98442201
cheers, that's what I thought but I wanted to check.
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>>98445891
Clearly the demon dragon is having some kind of influence over the angel. It already blocks the lifelink, so its not unreasonable to think he is messing with the angels mind too.
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>>98445900
Hm, good answer. I'll accept that flavor, even though the angel has protection from him.
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How could to even play this guy as a commander and have a wincon
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>>98445855
I like it even if it's shit.
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>>98445908
>triggers once each turn
Holy fuck I am tired of seeing this. The worst part is the inconsistency. Some cards say "one each of your turns" or something and then others say "once each turn"
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>>98445908
You're in W nigga just play a combo or sum
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>>98445908
Aura slop?
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>>98445922
>turns flickering ward into WW: draw a card
Big think
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>>98445905
The angel is pissed because he can't slay the dragon
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>>98445832
>>98445839
Why on Earth would I ever want my opponents to cast my spells? It's a "may" so I can't even force them to cast something with downside
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>>98445908
>once each turn
Can't have value in white! Even just simple fucking "cast 1 draw 1" wouldn't be in the spirit of justice law and fairnesss!
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>>98445880
where her BOOBA at akroma got THEM BIG BOOOBA
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>>98445905
He has protection from her, too.
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>>98445855
Kinda fuck with this one
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why is this mystery booster a better 50 year anniversary than the one we got FACT?!
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>>98445639
I've always wanted a commander that gave all equipment living weapon, but i really thought it would be monoblack, not monowhite.
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Toski & Seasoned Dungeoneer 2WG
Legendary Creature - Squirrel Warrior
Indestructible
When this creature enters, you take the initiative.
Whenever you attack, target attacking Cleric, Rogue, Warrior, or Wizard gains protection from creatures until end of turn. It explores. If you didn't put a card into your hand this way, draw a card.
1/1
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>>98445987
If it was old phyrexia, yeah, but she's not from that time period.
Also, mechanically, its better since so many equipment synergies are white.
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>>98445970
6 CMC in orzhov might as well say "you cannot cast this card"
Unless you're going to run Smothering Tithe, and Dark Ritual, and Culling Ritual, and every other mana cheating card in those colors and just always have them
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>>98445908
i dunno, play removal and creatures and anthems and attack with them? he's a 2 mana value engine that powers up your Darksteel Mutations and Martial Impetuses and stuff. he doesn't have to win the game by himself.
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>>98446000
>unless you play this 4cmc card it is literally impossible to play a 6cmc card!
You rogsi niggers are so fucking annoying man
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>>98445999
HOWEVER they just printed a bunch of equipmentslop for black in marvel, including one who is a new high tier commander in pedh imo
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>>98445908
>only once per turn
Really? Would uncapped drawslop really have been that much of a problem in enemy-targeting-aura tribal, perhaps the oldest worst archetype known to man or beast?
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>>98446011
can't let monowhite get out of hand
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>>98446007
A bracket 3 game can end on turn 6. I'd love to hear your plan to get your 6 cmc commander out and do anything with it before then.
What, we hope for the good old Sol Ring into Arcane Signet turn 1 and cast it on turn 3? Give me a fuckin break buddy
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>>98446026
It can, that doesn't mean it should. Only the sweatiest, sloppiest speedrunners (read: trannies) have consistent turn 6 wins in bracket 3.
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>>98446000
>Culling Ritual
....
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>>98446000
'Culling the Weak' you absolute twat.
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>>98446000
>culling ritual
lol lmao even
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>>98445848
This is actually good if you DON'T mix creature types and just focus on one of them.
>Abzan Zombies gets green sac outlets and tutors
>Abzan Cats gets black reanimation
>either one will just pump counters on the commander making it piss easy to grow into a giant.
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>>98445804
Actually I WILL be playing the niche archetype toolbox deck helmed by the bbw tyvm
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>>98446030
>It can, that doesn't mean it should
translation: it can, so it will
never leave your basement
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>>98446008
Did you really want a phyrexia to have to lean heavily on marvel crap
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>>98446064
yes
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>>98446059
b3 games almost never end turn 6
t. only plays b3 at his local game store
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>>98446068
I'd rather just play gut with inspiring leader as my commander if I were to play boros goblins, but I would put this in the 99
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>>98446075
>b3 games almost never end turn 6
pitiful
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>>98446080
>look mom if I play this fringe cedh commander in casual I can win early!
ok
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>>98446083
>look mom someone's stammering on the internet saying '...um it doesn't count!'
kek concession accepted
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>>98445823
If he's mono red I'm really tempted to build him with as many of the red clones as possible and just turning the game into an angel free for all
>>98446052
New best home for Kaathera?
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>>98446051
>>98446040
>>98446036
Guaranteed replies, can't believe people still fall for this shit. Do you mongoloids comment when the funny youtube guy says a common word wrong too?
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>Playing Anim Pakal
>Opp plays maskwood nexus and puts an indestructible counter on it.
>A turn later he gifts it to me with harmless offering.
Honestly can't even be mad.
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>>98445807
i missed it but apparently some guy got mad at me because i'm excited for this one since it's not much different from other theft decks, like the rules text was the reason i'm excited instead of the fact that he's a funny little black border legendary clown with fun art.
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>>98446131
That's an even gayer reason to be excited over a card.
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>>98446131
That's a based reason to be excited for a card
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>>98446080
imagine playing boring mono b value pile and not even using the best reskin in the game
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>>98446131
>i'm excited instead of the fact that he's a funny little black border legendary clown with fun art.
Holy reddit
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>>98446142
it's very telling that FF had almost all the fringe and meta cedh commanders, almost like wotc was absolutely sure FF was going to be a hit (it was)
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>>98446142
I'm not trans so Final Fantasy (and in particular Final Fantasy 14) have no appeal for me.
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>>98446131
That's the only acceptable reason to be excited over a card.
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>>98445908
he's just draft fodder.
almost strictly worse Sram, except he has better toughness.
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>>98446177
You'd best start believing in troon games, anon. You're playing one
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>>98446165
he cute
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>>98446183
dwarfCHADS keep winning
orKEKS stay losing
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I found the card that neatly ties the whole Kros deck together.
I can take back and proliferate the fuck out of shields now.
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>>98445594
just bought 2 packs 2 week ago for $13.50. theres no shortage

mystery booster commander is neat but also mashes up the shittier mystery booster 1 stuff with a few neat cards + a bunch of non viable cards (IE legendary sorceries as commander, a commander is a single legendary creature)
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>>98446147
Get that faggot! We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.
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>>98446203
The redditor believes everyone else is also a redditor.
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>>98446202
>IE legendary sorceries as commander
I'm going to laugh really had if that commander ends up being a CEDH commander or some bullshit. Casting it 100 times a turn with infinite mana to just play your own deck to do some degenerate shit or something.
I think its going to be a lot stronger than people thing it will be.
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Looking for a new commander to build around. Any of these lads fun?
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>tq

this nibba going in my Dark Garth deck. fits lorewise too since Garth is one of the oldest MTG characters and wasn't this dude in Shandalar? I never really played shandalar just the duel part over and over and over again (Mana Link)
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>>98445693
>Naya Beasts
Fine I'll take it.
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>>98446220
>Any of these lads fun?
No
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>>98446220
mister negative
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>>98446142
>>98446165
>>98446177

my god modern final fantasy is such trash

final fantasy died at 10 (which is the 2nd best one after 7)

>pic related is the 3rd best FF game which was massively snubbed in the FF sets
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>>98446220
Sokka is really fun in Arena so I say him
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>>98446211
once the troons are ousted commander will have proper rules again

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE

one legendary creature in the command zone

no partners, no spells, no spaceships LEGENDARY CREATURES (including Artifact creatures yes). its called Elder Dragon Highlander for a reason

further rules might be the commander has to have a minimum cost of 4
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>>98446250
almost as snubbed as FF8 which at least got the scenebox shit which is a product type I hate
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>>98446250
This but everything after 3 (NES) instead because everything after is absolute moviegame dogshit with the worst battle systems imaginable.
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>>98446220
no they all SUCK
I'm kidding, Mister Negative is fun
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>>98446262
>da troons!
You going to buy wotc? Only way that's going to happen.
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>>98446263
FF8 at least got a pretty good Squall commander. I hadn't been into Magic for a long time and I like ff8 but its not in my top 5 favorites (much better than FF9 however) and white black knights tribal with Squall was the first Universe beyond deck I made. and I think its a pretty nice card overall

Bartz (Butz) card isnt great, theres no Galuf card the only slightly silly thing is "Gaelicat" random ass enemy from FF5 that is like obscure fan service
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>>98446299
Hasbro forcing them to New England and getting out of the brain drain of greater Seattle area will be an improvement
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>>98446301
there's a card of galuf dying (lol)
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>>98446263
FF8 and Xenogears (if ever squenix gets the rights back) are the only 90s titles that deserve a remake
>FF7 didn't need a remake and the trilogy didn't need to happen
>FF9 certainly doesn't need one either
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>>98446299
tweet at elon until he buys magic
worked before
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>>98446273
FF3 NES is one of the greats, and despite its bugs FF1 is of course an all time classic. its always been popular to shit on 7 though nothing compares its the greatest game of all time

the remakes are absolute trash but it doesn't take anything away from the perfect of the original PSX game. and of course the SNES ones a great too. and FFX is truly a great game too

if they would have ignored FF14-16 and focused on the other good games this set would have been much better. No Yshtola no Tataru or whatever the fuck it's called. 12 and 13 I didnt really like and who even played 11?

The core is 1-10 + Tactics
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>>98446311
That's not happening. Only Hasbro is moving to boston.
Boston is highly liberal anyway.
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>>98446314
yeah no legendary creature though. and of none of the other characters. There an Exdeath card and a Gilgamesh card and "Bartz & Boko". that is BULLSHIT

they should have had Faris be a pirate lord or something at least
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>>98446301
Butz got a shitty card and a reskin of a bullshit card
Galuf is a Sorcery
Krile is a (good) instant
Faris got a shitty Equipment that looks nothing like Faris
Lenna is stuck in gay baby Void jail
Exdeath got a subpar uncommon
Gilgamesh got an overcosted monored card and a reskin of Godo

Being an ff5fag is suffering
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>>98446325
actually a great idea
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>>98446325
Be pretty funny to see elon do that, and claim he's a pro level legacy and cedh player and then lose to precons with blue farm or some shit.
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>>98446335
yeah its a crime that for all the anime shit they're trying to integrate into MTG that we didn't get a highly stylized old man anime Galuf monk (no we need 7 Tifa cards even though we hate real women!!)
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>>98446334
I don't think Irvine got even a flavor text mention
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>>98446344
>>98446325

>Elon buys Wizards
>immediately reprints dual lands
>shuts down all lawsuits
>profits massively
>gavin and the other troon lords all in the bread line

it CAN happen!!!!
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>>98446357
relegated to being in the background of a secret lair and in the background of the Jumbo Cactuar card

which they also have a deck box of that Jumbo Cactuar art and he's cropped out of. but that's the box I keep my Squall deck in for FLAVOR

but yeah that type of shit is annoying
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>>98446377
I forget, did MTG confirm R=U?
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Magic feels like it has a LARPing problem. Every time someone complains about how the game used to be better 10-20 years ago, upon closer inspection they started playing at LTR or later, so all of their knowledge about the game being "better" is secondhand.
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>>98445953
Just keep something like Soothsaying out so you can peek at the top 4 or 5 cards so you don't give them too big of a spell to cast.
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>lategame we're all on 10-15 life left
>guy next on the turn order has 500 scute swarms with summoning sickness ready to overrun all of us the moment i pass to him
>manage to blow up the entire table with Bolas Citadel sac 10 with Ashnod out for 20 damage
never thought i'd clutch it up on its final ability goddamn
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>>98446399
I started playing 31 years ago
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>>98445810
Drawbacks and deckbuilding restrictions? Holy sovl
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>>98446142
Wrong picture.
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>>98446423
I started playing 31 minutes ago
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>>98446426
it's actually one of the few ludokino things wotc has done in awhile
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>>98445908
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>>98446357
this is Irvine's other appearance, and all but cropped out of the Cactuar deck box. WHY ARE THEY HIDING IRVINE???!!!

>>98446397
I'm not sure what you mean?

>>98446399
I started in 2010 but I had some cards around the original pokemon boom in 1999-2000. but I stopped for a long time. LOTR and Final Fantasy got me interested in it again. but the troon shit and a lot of general questionable stuff makes me wonder how long I'll actually stay in this time
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>>98446441
rinoa = ultimecia
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>>98446220
I enjoy Ranar for what he is. It's mostly flicker tribal since foretell is still stuck only to Kaldheim cards.
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>>98446447
I beat ff8 somewhere between 2009 and 2011 and I dont remember that at all

I tried replaying it in 2022 after clearing 7 for the 7th time in my life but quit on disc 2 just couldn't get into it (too many Laguna flashbacks). but at no point do I remember them saying or alluding to anything like that
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>>98446165
That's because SE was proactive and sent staff there to make sure Gavin and co didn't create a pile of shit.
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>>98446220
Senor Negativo is funny
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>>98446399
I'm an oldfag. I was buying packs in the 90s. Magic was never good, but it's the best tcg that people actually play.
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>>98446399
Early 2000s player, Magic was better and UB is slop
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is Mycosynth Lattice + Overload Vandalblast an MLD?
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>>98446423
based 50+er
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>>98446489
and squenix got rid of all their DEI fuckers making their games full of queermo bullshit (like the character in one of the recent dragon quest games and turning the goofy dress-like-a-woman to sneak into the brothel story into a full blown theatrical number with a new character and a tune about "stand up, stand up for groomer pride")

so they had to keep the retards at GōtC in check (the linguistic accent over the O helps give the abbreviation a deeper meaning).
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>>98446522
I'm in my 30s albeit
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>>98446447
>raised index finger in every pose
Rinoha worships the infinite glory of Allah.
"From the river to the sea, palestine will be free!"
t. rinona
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>>98446524
>and squenix got rid of all their DEI fuckers
lol, then why is FF14 still by and for trannies in every respect?
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>>98446535
big if true
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>>98446519
Yes.
But it's funny, so do it.
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Can't wait to proxy new 300 dollar commanders.
This is why every deck at a table is UB now.
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>>98446581
None of these are going to be 300 dollars you nimrod.
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>>98446587
They'll average 40-60ish
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>>98446592
No they won't. Other than 1 or 2, these are all just niche "fun" commanders, and nothing that will be upper level bracket 4 and cedh powerhouses.
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>>98446606
You expect these to be cheaper than jumpstart cards despite being far less common?
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>>98446609
Yes. Just like jumpstart, there are are only ever 2-3 cards that are extremely high in price. This will be no different.
People will be able to buy these boosters in oct. While they will have limited runs, they aren't going to be so limited as mechnically unique SL.
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Why do proxyfags always whine about the prices of cards they wouldn't buy in the first place?
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>>98446544
thats before they got rid of them it was in 2024 maybe early 2025. most of the FF MTG work had to have been finished. the worst is what they did with the Honeybee shit in 2020 (ff7 remake part 1, "Stand up, stand up for groomer pride")
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>>98446617
They're just cringe anti-UBfags
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>>98446026
Shut up you walking nerd emoji
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>>98445600
I wish Phyrexian Venser had a good "whenever you proliferate" effect.
He could've been a good proliferate commander but instead he's just a forgettable card.
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>>98446544
and also in my previous post, everything after final fantasy 10 is trash, including remakes. 1-10 and tactics is all anyone needs and all the mega gay shit is from the last 12 or so years. (FFX was released in 2001)
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>>98446026
>my 2 game changers are Mox Diamond and Chrome Mox.

so anyway I cast Seething Song and Dark Ritual...
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>>98446273
You cannot say with a straight face ff7 had worse combat than 2
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>>98446026
"Expect to play at least 6 turns" means a win on turn 7 unless you're the last player in the turn rotation.
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>>98446617
Just part of their self justification ritual.
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what +1/+1 counter and deathtouchslop is in hobbit?
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>>98446693
+1/+0 slop storing on equipment now (the Ozolith we have at home)

I will be adding it to nearly all my (non bracket 4/S-CDR) decks (which by default are Voltron decks since thats commander)
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>>98446718
kino
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>>98445880
very cute, shame she's useless
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98445600
>TQ: What commander in the coming sets will you be building?
Haven't seen any that i want yet

but Ill need a copy of Jace for all my U decks
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Any creature should be eligible as commander, legendary or not
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>>98446718
That is lowkey pretty good. Flash. 2 mana. Easily puts you in range of commander damage in 1 hit.
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>>98446919
even funnier when they have like infinite tokens or something
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>see new non-aggro commanders that look interesting
>start brewing them
>test play the deck
>it just seems boring and I find myself wishing I was just turning creatures sideways

I guess I need to stop denying my Timmy nature.
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>>98447095
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>>98447104
nta
the cynic in me says playing that I just get my shit kicked in by everything but some 2/2 zombie tokens that farm draw off me
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>>98447139
she kino I just wish they templated it better so she isn't useless 1v1
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>>98447188
I hate shit that doesn't function when it is just down to you and one last player. Myriad also does this.
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>>98447626
Okay.
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>>98447626
can still be exiled, sacrificed, dies to negative toughness, 0/10
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>>98447626
new creature to slot into the Indo Rex deck
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>>98447626
is the implication that blor is a 0/0 for 3?
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>>98445719
Brap deck.
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>>98445719
The way this is written proliferating the counters wouldn't do anything right? This seems like a hard deck to build, looks like there's not much for unique counters in black
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>>98445732
This is an interesting one, at least.
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>>98447803
it's terrible. Cards relying on opponents having multiple creatures and those creatures staying in play never work
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What's the best way to try out EDH over the net? Spelltable with proxies? A client?
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>>98447824
I've seen a lot of people using the moxfield client with obs over spelltable and convoke, that seems like the cheapest way if you don't already have cards
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>>98447871
Thanks a lot anon, that's pretty damn interesting, is there a specific guide for it?
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someone posted here a tier list long ago regarding wincons, has anyone saved it?
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>>98447904
Not to my knowledge, it's fairly easy though you just need to download obs client, setup a view which shows the parts of your web browser on moxfield that you want to show hiding your hand ect, and then start it as a virtual camera and use that as your "camera" for the game.
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>>98447626
I actually like this because Blor was a stupid fun thing in bloomburrow. Nice it's not just obscure oldies I like but newer shit too.
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>>98447922
I'm sure I'll figure it out. What's the best way to learn to play EDH then? I know 60 but only on arena and I've never touched EDH before. Keeping track things manually is kinda hard
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>>98447626
>Simple, clean, soulful commander.
>People still complain.
And I'll be one of them. 5 is too much for this. Even in green, Should have just been 3.
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>>98447977
Thrun is four and only has hexproof I think 5 is fair
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>>98447977
fucking thing comes back twice and eats every removal the table has
resource drain
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>>98447975
Playing online you'll probably get a few assholes to be honest, I would recommend just watching some YouTube videos and looking stuff up, especially if you already play 60 card you'll be able to pick it up easily
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>>98447975
If you don't already, try brawl first in order to understand the very basics of the deckbuilding side.
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>>98447975
How much magic experience do you have at all? Just doing draft or Arena draft is the fastest way to learn the game and how to judge cards.
EDH is just another layer on top. Your biggest barrier will be learning threat assessment.
Easiest way to immediately become better than most players is to
1) run removal at all
and
2) Don't just immediately blow it.
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>>98447975
If you already play arena play brawl to get a grasp on Singleton deck building and building around your commander. It's 1v1 so there's inherent differences (lower threshold to win/lose, planeswalkers are better, no politics) but it's good way to get a feel of play patterns.
>>98447977
5 mana for a very hard to kill 3/3 with trample seems more than fair. He'll be a another fun alternative for people that want mono green Voltron and after we just got hitmonkey too
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>>98448028
I don't think BLor is meant to be a commander choice first but more a beatstick with useful keywords on it for certain strategies
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>>98447977
After playing Hit-Monkey I am conflicted.
Haste after a boardwipe is powerful, Reach/Vigilance is a good combo. Having to slot in for trample and Indestructible is surprisingly easy to do.

Here, you can forego protection spells save for anti-counter and Tajuru Preserver for anti-sacrifice effects, but finding Vigilance/Reach effects is less common in monogreen.
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>>98448133
Nah Hit Monkey is way better. Turns all fight spells into guaranteed removal.
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>>98448178
going in Namor
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>>98448178
Due to how this is worded, if I have some effect that says my spells can't be countered, I will get both my spell and the merfolk token right? Since it doesn't have the "if a spell was countered this way do thing" clause?
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>>98447626
>>98447853
>>98448178
Ah yes. More 100 dollar cards.
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>>98448228
Mystery Booster 2 gets churned out in droves. You get one of these cards in every single pack. By the time they begin their actual circulation they'll crater in price. They have nothing propping them up but time-gated con exclusivity.
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>>98448178
This is the strangest looking art I have seen in a magic in a while. 8/10.
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>>98448216
Correct.
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>>98448230
>Their actual circulation
Ah yes, things that won't happen
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Any thoughts on my Teval, Arbiter of Virtue deck?

https://archidekt.com/decks/21131439/teval_arbiter_of_virtue?sort=alpha&stack=custom

TDM re-centered the new Sultai in green and tried to make them about “fair” necromancy and harmony with nature. In response I built Teval to delve out a bunch of disgusting artifact and phyrexian monstrosities. I tried to take it thematically pretty black.
I am a bit of a larper so I wanted to feel like I a steel thane or some other black phyrexian general (or even just some random profane artificer) trying to abuse and pervert the new Sultai for my own gain.
It is really designed as bracket 2 deck despite having Consecrated Sphinx. I am anticipating that coming off the gamechangers list.
Any Quandrix cards I may have missed? I feel like their focus on mathematics jives well with my deck wanting to undercut nature with science and artifice. Also X spells are just good in Teval.
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>>98448355
It's a bit goodstuff-y, but solid enough. No fucking way is this bracket 2 though, you'd rape most decks at that level with this. It has a lot of out-of-nowhere wins, especially with Traumatize effects.

That being said consider a High Market/Phyrexian Tower/Lazotep Quarry package so you can get rid of Teval when his life drain is suddenly a liability.
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>>98448401
>only good rulebreaker design
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>>98448401
>Can finally build a battle of wits commander deck
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>>98448401
>bibliophile
>keeps losing books
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>>98448416
Is it just me, or is she kinda fuckable
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>>98448401
>actually fun commander idea in 2026
Dream.
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>>98448401
Thank god, I was starting to get worried they wouldn't do it and all the rulebreakers would be color identity shit.
So, what's the best way to shuffle a 250 card deck?
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>>98448498
Awwwww shit.
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>>98448510
>Conjure
>In paper
Nigger what
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>>98448523
>cannot parse acorn stamp
AHHHH I WANT SECONDARIES TO LEAVE
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>>98448383
If it’s over bracket 2 already do you think I’m justified slotting in Cyc Rift? It fits thematically with the deck and mechanically with Teval, but I had been excluding it to keep the power level down.
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>>98448530
>If it’s over bracket 2 already do you think I’m justified slotting in Cyc Rift?
I mean, if it's bracket 3 you're allowed 3 game changers. It's a card players should expect in that bracket. If you're looking to power it down there's a lot you'd have to do besides cutting C-Sphinx. Bursty decks like this prey on that tier of play, as a lot of what it's doing is "behind the scenes" in a way that can be hard for low-power decks to interact with.
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>>98448510
>BG

he won't be able to slot into my Toski deck, too bad

its just pure Voltron power though only other Squirrel card I have on there is Chitterspitter just for the lulz and as a boostable anthem
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>>98448482
Slots right into ixidor. Nice.
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>>98448482
What the fuck
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>>98448488
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>>98448610
>>98448573
>>98448502
>>98448498
>>98448488
>>98448482
>>98448438
>>98448433
>>98448416
>>98448407
Nice 100 dollar draft chaff you got there wotc
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>>98448610
>not a 7/7
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>>98448650
it's a 10/10 w/o trample so wotc doesn't have a retard cry that it's somehow beyond b2
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actually one (1) cool commander in the set
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>>98448355
Given the number of "I win instantly with little/no setup" cards you put in this deck, I wouldn't label this b2 even without Sphinx. As the other anon said if you put Traumatize or Hermit Druid in Teval that's just 5 mana "You win the game" because you'd need to fumble really hard after basically making 40 Treasure tokens worst-case scenario. Not to mention all the colorless bombs that your opponents will have to constantly play around. I'd just lean into this being bracket 3 if that's the direction you want to take it. I will note that this deck isn't very good at actually drawing cards so like 90% of EDH decks you're very vulnerable to stalling out if your opponents answer your first two bombs.
>Sphinx coming off the GC list
lol lmao
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>>98448675
>do thing impulse draw
>cool
Yeah ok champ
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>>98448675
You have very bad taste of this is the only thing that is "cool" to you
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>>98448482
I have a problem with this on a visceral level.
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>>98448675
>barbarian wizard
Hell yeah brother
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>>98448686
>>98448692
cuz it's grim lavamancer you nigger fuck you
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>>98448488
I forgot how this kind of wording works: the sac part is all a big trigger? if target opponent becomes an invalid target does it fizzle and I don't have to sac anything?
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>>98448482
God fucking damn it. We just had to acknowledge that dumpster fire, did we?
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>>98448431
The way YGO players shuffle (They just hand it to an opponent to cut, then their opponent taps the top card to indicate it's fine as-is)
>I want a real way to shuffle
Opponent cuts the deck without further shuffling.
>But mana weaving
Don't mana weave and honestly even if you did it probably won't help enough to let you win consistently on 250 singleton.
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>>98448488
I like his hat.
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>>98448502
May pick these up. Art on Autumn Willow reminds me a bit of Guay before she got bad and the character is part of probably my favorite flavor text in the game.

I hope we get an Ola DaRiol commander that's just Primal Order on a hexproof body or something like that.
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>curse-themed commander
>he sucks for curses
On one hand I'm glad. I despise when decks get a legendary who is the absolute best at operating an archetype. On the other it feels like the design for the MBC lineup is viewed from a time warp. Some alternative world where WotC didn't spend the last x years in FIRE design hell pushing the entire game's power level to absurd limits.

Half the cards are memes/nostalgia bait. The silly politics cards are all completely self-neutered by giving opponents a binary choice between "may" or "may not," and while many of the legendaries are novel at a glance they don't lend themselves to particularly exciting decks.

I'd say the commanders with some actual play/design space to them are
>Ekthi, Contaminator Priest
>Grandmother Goby (though it's really just cast treasure cruise with some merfolk lords in play and win)
>Sash and Waistcoat, Unmen
>Olinda the Oblivious
>Ashaya's Enduring Bond
>Itazura, Lingering Wick
>Jandor, Fortuned Traveler
>Lyna, Veil of Vengeance
>Massimo, the Magician
>The Muckslinger Gang
>Whtz, the Bibliophile
and even then the cards aren't that groundbreaking. I would, however, like to see cards in a similar vein in the future.
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>>98448743
>though it's really just cast treasure cruise with some merfolk lords in play and win
It's mana spent to cast the spell, so she's actually pretty bad.
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>>98448743
Genie is out of the bottle. A lot of the designs here are fun and I would have been happy to build them fifteen years ago because even if they weren't quite as strong as top-tier options, power creep was such that the average powerlevel of newer cards was only slightly higher than cards from the late 90s and early 2000s (and in some cases, weaker than the pushed cards from that era).

Now you cannot play with these cards because even bracket 2 'modified precons' are too synergistic and overtuned that fun cards that are not also pushed to hell and back are not playable at even non 'competitive' tables. You have to actively seek out players who want to play 'depowered' rather than just 'not powerful'
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>>98448530
if you're going by the guidelines you get 3 "game changer" cards. if you dont want to use Cyc Rift as one (although its probably the best board wipe in the game hands down) EVACUATION is a good alt

other photo I had on hand is paired with Larry Niven's disk for whatever reason
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Is he the only planeswalker to ponder an orb on his card? I don't think anyone else does.
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>>98448482
>>98448563
more like BUGMEN, amirite
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>>98448355
>Consecrated Sphinx
>I am anticipating that coming off the gamechangers list
you're going to have to wait a long time for that primetime is still banned for fuck's sake
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>>98448758
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>>98448818
Fuck
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>>98448730
>This is bretty good for either of my "cast form exile matters decks"
>Look at the cost
Nvm. I already don't run warped space because 6 is already hefty
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>>98448818
This is a general for commander. Alchemy cards are offtopic
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>>98448715
>nonlegendary creature spell
no such thing exists
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>>98448778
It's not even that necessarily. Some of the cards aren't bad, just... bland.
>>98448785
>>98448416
>>98448407
You could build serviceable decks with these cards, for example. They just don't lend themselves to anything. They're generic and not in a way that makes you want to build a deck with them.
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>>98448818
Mox Ruby, the card, will spike because of this.
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>>98448838
He's actually a card for Tannuk's 99
>>98448778
The only new card I think that will be strictly bracket 2 tops is the candle guy, he sucks bad. I feel like pretty much everything else in this set has a cool build around to work with that you could make work at a bracket 3 table but the candle guy so fucking bad
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>>98448887
>The only new card I think that will be strictly bracket 2 tops is the candle guy, he sucks bad.
He's the guy I'm MOST excited about building. You can run him with big spells and reverberate effects in hand as a sort of symmetric group hug/burn deck. Not to mention counterspells when things get unlucky.

How much life would you pay to keep your opponents from casting Hit the Motherlode? How about Time Warp? Especially when you're the one who gets to cast it?
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>people are honestly excited for 200 dollar draft chaff cards
Oink oink! Gobble it up slopgorgers!
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The price tag melty samefag is incredibly obvious.
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>>98448887
>>98448867
You absolutely are not doing anything good in mono-green with a 6 mana planeswalker that either makes a 2/2 or draws you 3 cards. Similarly, a 4 mana unblockable 2/2 with no protection that makes you between one and three 1/1 unblockable tokens in monoblack is also completely unplayable even in bracket 2.
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>>98448920
It would just helm a green goodstuff slop heap. It's not good, but it's perfectly generic value. You could run it and still see wins in bracket 2.
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>>98448898
>How much life would you pay to keep your opponents from casting Hit the Motherlode? How about Time Warp? Especially when you're the one who gets to cast it?
Yes but then people will just kill you with those good cards you'd prefer that you are casting and have ways to cast them yourself in izzet. If you just run shitty cards or hold up counterspells to trick people they'll stop paying life at all since they can just choose 0. The biggest problem is that it says 0 or higher, nobody has to take damage sure you get to choose then but somebody besides you still casting your spell and you get... To add a single card to hand. If he let you put every spell not cast that way in your hand he might have potential but youre letting your opponents trade life (the most expendable resource in 60 card formats, let alone commander) to play your cards and you get A card for the trouble. I'm glad they're exploring this design space but I'll be keeping an eye out for the next time they iterate on it rather than trying to force a miss to work
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>>98448778
>A lot of these aren't massively powerful self-contained value engines and require deck building skills to work effectively
>Therefore they are shit and gay
Sad but true. The legendary sorcery commander seems like a hoot to me though. I'm going to try and build it despite it probably ending badly.
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>>98448941
>Yes but then people will just kill you with those good cards you'd prefer that you are casting and have ways to cast them yourself in izzet.
They still get the spell if you reverberate it.

>The biggest problem is that it says 0 or higher, nobody has to take damage sure you get to choose then but somebody besides you still casting your spell and you get...

The vote is in secret. This card is fun as fuck with game theory. I guarantee you someone is going to betray the table to try to get advantage out of it. I know because I'm the person who will happily pay 10 life if it means I get a Sol Ring out of the deal. It's not strong, but it is fun and introduces an interesting dynamic to the table.
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>>98448913
Oink oink
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>>98448960
I'm not buying this shit, I just think you're stupid.
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>>98448909
>>98448960
us pigs win btw
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>>98446301
When they inevitably revisit Final Fantasy I hope they split it into the 2d and 3d games
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>>98448401
Bro...
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>>98448482
Asmongold??
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>>98449016
who's the other one? tectone? mcconnell?
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>>98448675
Not even good enough for the 99 of Taii. Sorry.
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>>98449027
Hasan Piker
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Zamn. The hobbit lands are gorgeous.
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>>98448818
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>>98448951
>The vote is in secret. This card is fun as fuck with game theory
This card is shit as fuck with game theory because if you try to rig it in your favor the optimal play always becomes for the opponents to choose 0 and let you decide who gets to cast a card if they even want to. Secret voting doesn't stop a player from announcing that truth, it just stops you from announcing your choice to cut deals. You can put in stuff that makes them want to pay the life but a HtML or Time Warp is worth whatever amount of life you can pay in a format with 40 starting life and the higher level you play at the higher chance it is that you're just gonna get killed by them afterwards. For all the hoops to jump through to get a tiny bit of card advantage I can just play Eruth and play two of my own cards instead of letting an opponent cast something for free then keep one card in exile and one card in my hand. Hell if you got to cast one of the cards yourself I'd adore this guy but he's just a shit kingmaker
>I know because I'm the person who will happily pay 10 life if it means I get a Sol Ring out of the deal
The problem with this hypothetical is that you're already approaching the game state featuring candle guy as something youre playing against rather than with. Actually the ceiling for this guy might be harmless offering him to an opponent
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>>98448401
I hate knowing this will be a package deal with yorion forever and always.
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>>98449050
hasan would be electric-themed
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>>98449061
>For all the hoops to jump through to get a tiny bit of card advantage I can just play Eruth and play two of my own cards instead of letting an opponent cast something for free then keep one card in exile and one card in my hand
Yeah but Eruth is a boring all-in goodstuff heap. This card is fun. I think you're missing the forest for the trees here. You can play this guy in brackets 2-3 just fine, he's not "optimal" but commander isn't "optimal" to begin with.
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Why is it that playing a commander that doesn't have "do x, get y card advantage" feel like shooting yourself in the foot?
I was interested in Tsagan since it got added onto arena but my pod has like 3 board wipe tribal decks and I know for a fact he'll just get run over.
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>>98449063
thanks maro!
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>>98449079
>my pod has like 3 board wipe tribal decks
maybe don't run shitty decks that fold to a single boardwipe?
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>>98449072
But he is T*rkish
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>>98449098
yeah I have those, it's called commanders that have card advantage stapled onto them, you card game rapist
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>>98448401
Finally it gets to go into a deck
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>>98449079
That card is strong and sloppy as fuck. It doesn't need to draw you cards. It's a free go-wide wincon. If you hit max speed you can just make a bunch of hasty tokens late game and kill everyone instantly.
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None of these cards seem worth turning into big titty women
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>>98449079
>he thinks the point of commander is for everyone to cast their commander and laugh in glee and camaraderie
Bracket 1 is that way guy
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>>98449113
i don't see this guy giving me card advantage, mayhaps your deckbuilding is suspect?
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>>98449139
now post his gay lover
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>>98449139
Sup larper, how did you do in the last cedh tourny you didn't go to
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>>98448935
My point is that the perfectly generic value it offers is not valuable at all.
6 mana 'draw 3' (which isn't even a draw 3 since it only hits permanents) on a commander is trash as is a 2/2 every turn.
Just looking at mono green options there are far better generic value commanders that are also not competitive or B3/4.
Garruk, Primal Hunter is does everything Greensleeves does but better and costs 1 less. It can't be your commander, granted, but if a mediocre card from over a decade ago is stronger than a 2026 commander, that commander is not playable.

You can run it and see wins in bracket 2 but it will never be the reason you see wins in bracket 2. It is not good as a generic value commander and is outclassed by probably at least a dozen options.
Even without going into a theme, there is no reason to play Greensleeves over Nissa, Vastwood Seer; or Freyalise and neither of those cards are too strong for B2.
>>98448949
The shit and gay part isn't the new cards, it is the environment that makes cards that are not self-contained value engines unplayable.
>require deck building skills to work effectively
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Very few of these cards seem to require genuine deckbuilding skills to make effective. They lean into underpowered or not often used archetypes but that doesn't make them any less linear to build than the majority of post commander-pandering legendary creatures. "At random + Coin flip" tribal is not any harder to build than "Landfall elementals", it just has a weaker cardpool meaning the deck you eventually put together will not be as strong. Ditto for rogues/ninja tribal; X cost tribal; Phyrexian/Living Weapon tribal; and 'deal 1 damage to yourself' tribal.
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>>98449152
>>98449156
>scrubs hella mad they got btfo
git gud
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>>98449121
>"it's a free wincon"
>you have to pay for it
>you have to draw and pay for a haste enabler
>you have to draw and pay for the token maker
damn that's crazy, maybe you and I have a different opinion of what free means
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>>98448818
>>98449056
>acorn
So some of the cards in this collector convention set just can't be used? Fuck off
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>>98449169
It's just sitting there forever in the command zone. It's free and boring the way Jetmir is free and boring.
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Well, how do we /edh/?
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>>98449079
Because wotc kept printing slop cards like this so wiping the board every 4-5 turns becomes mandatory outside of some OTK combo shit.
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>>98449167
So, no wins?
Okay larper.
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>>98449078
Which okay yeah sure if you want to build a bad commander for fun and because "things don't have to be optimal" sure but assuming players in a competition will not always be taking the decision that they believe will help them win the game is bad design philosophy and bad deck building philosophy. Again, the problem isn't the idea the problem is the execution he needed a way bigger payoff for what his effective cost is and I hope they'll nail it next time. Personally I find stuff like Eruth fun because it's incredibly straightforward and you can do a lot with that simple ability, candle guy has a very complex ability that you can do very little with. If I wanted to have a guy fuck me in the ass and call it a colonoscopy it'd be easier and quicker to pay a guy $20
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>>98449184
Based on marvel rivals and shit like it put huge titty girls and venom with a fat ass
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>>98449191
>but my "do X do Y" card advantage that i can't win without!!!
i accept your resignation
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>>98449139
Retard
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>>98449213
i don't see rograkh drawing me a card dumdum
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>>98449184
birgi looks retarded up close like that
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>>98449184
Honestly. Make the women pretty and attractive. Women also like playing cute and beautiful characters too.
>What's the best girl character?
>Well, see, its this obese paralyzed poc, though to say they are a "girl" is wrong, because they are non-binary
>Really, there's nothing good but also cute?
>...no.
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>>98449184
you get Harry Potter UB and you get women playing mtg and as a bonus you get the troons ACKing, simple as
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>>98449184
it's really that easy
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>>98449268
>troons out of nowhere
gulp
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>>98449276
God that book was shit.
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>>98449184
I hate modern audiences
I hate modern audiences
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>>98449283
you can that fat fuck GRR Martin for not finishing his gay novels and leaving a gaping hole in the rape-fantasy genre for women to intellectually goon over
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>>98449291
thank that*
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>>98449280
Wdym troons are everywhere in renton wa
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>>98449297
>renton wa
That's nice say hi to dsp for me
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>>98449280
Ok Mr. Klomparens
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>>98449184
Phywically attractive characrers help, as do cutsie things, but ultimately the game is too technical, too much problem-solving for most women to enjoy. That's just the facts of the matter. It's why there are more transwomen than women, because it appeals to the male problem-solving brain.
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>>98449321
Wotc doesnt actually need wahmen playing they just want them opening packs like wahmen already do for pokemon
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>>98449321
So in other words, go back to pre-FIRE complexity AND make the women pretty.
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>>98449338
Then this should be the base level of the art, not just jumpstarts and surgefoils.
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>>98449349
Would help, but looking at premodern that's still way too much for most of them.
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>>98449338
Then the art being colorful and cutsie with attractive women would do it.
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>>98449184
More gay males depicted in skimpy outfits and massive bulges on cards. Bonus if they're dragons.
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>>98449440
Most women don't actually want that. That's gay man bait.
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With the candle commander, am I missing something or can't you just plop down a vexing bauble effect and neuter the downside lol. Why do people think he sucks
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>>98445837
Kek, got a good laugh outta me
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>>98449470
the floor of the ability is terrible because you are dealing 0 damage to somebody and they get to freely cast the best card of the top three, you get one of the two worst and lose the other
the ceiling is also not very good because you are dealing 3 damage to somebody (realistically it's also zero because the vexing bauble is already on the table) and drawing the best of the top three cards, losing the other two
you have to be playing shit that lets you key off exiling your cards or else it's just a slightly different Tomorrow
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>>98449470
Because then people will see the vexing bauble and go "hmm well I guess I'll just choose 0" and then they can also still deny you a card YOU want to cast by choosing to cast it and letting it get countered. This is a two card nonbo where you spend 5 mana to net 1 card and an opponent spends absolutely nothing to deny you one of the cards
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>>98449470
Maybe go full chaos?
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>>98449515
Tommorow is only a single draw though, this would give you card advantage instead since you still get to draw. I also would imagine opponents would want to bid life more often than never to stop you from taking the card that hurts their board state the most. Can load up on stax pieces like vexing bauble, sphere of resistance, trinisphere, and then just stuff the deck full of fairly fungible good stuff.
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>>98449544
even if you don't like the comparison, the card isn't good because if you have a lock then no one will give a shit about the effect
if you don't have a stax piece then you are just bad group hug since the return on giving away card and mana advantage is one card the other guy didn't want
what kind of cards are you willing to give away for free that someone would actually want to pick?
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>>98449561
And again the "high end" is running nonbos where you are running two card combos to get one whole card in your hand. This is "let your opponent do thing, draw" but as terrible as possible
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>>98449450
...women?
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Are people finally catching on that all of these cards are utter unplayable dogshit?
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open 2 final fantasy boosters a little bit ago. These 4 cards were in the same pack. what the actual fuck

got a Starting Town in that one though. nothing but garbage in the other
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>>98449440
They should do this but less twink like Oko and more daddies like Garruk
>>98449450
True!
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>>98449630
I shamefully ordered a collector box when the set came out and I got 3 stiltzkin's in a single pack and another had 2 in one
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>>98449628
Most of these cards have SOME niche that would be worth playing even in the 99 even if just for the novelty but the candle man is exceptionally bad. It's a massive failure of game design to the point that I think the actual experiment is seeing how dog shit they can make a card before people stop defending it for being "le hecking chaotic whimsy fun!!"
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>>98449681
Why do you think they're in a supplemental product?
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>>98449628
I think they're neat
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>>98449628
i like the nephilim commander so i can just roll my eyes at rule zero nephilimfags and tell them they're not a REAL fan of them if they don't run the legend even as a damn proxy
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>>98449664
yikes. I ordered one of the Sams Club 6 pack deck builder boxes last month and there wasn't much good stuff in there but thankfully nothing that bad.

but this was wack, its hard to even find these packs still on the shelves of stores. LGS' never have them and online they're scalped (only by a couple bucks but still)
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>>98449628
>Get a pile of interesting commanders that aren't just massive value piles and require some intelligent deck building design
>These are all shit!
How boring.
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>>98448610
>>98448573
>>98448502
>>98448498
>>98448488
>>98448482
>>98448438
>>98448433
>>98448416
>>98448407
Wouldn't even see play in rogsi
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>chains rattling
He's coming
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>>98449787
>some intelligent deck building design
>which ofc means nothing less but to have the deck revolve all around the commander and will die without it
lol
anyways the best one among them powerwise is azarkon and he's either 5c cedh dihada (skeptical if he'll shake up the meta this way) or another piece in sisay's 99 (much more likely)
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>>98449814
correct
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>>98449814
Would you?
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>>98449822
>People want their decks in Commander to involve the commander
Great deduction anon. Any more words of wisdom for us? Maybe you want to teach me about 5c Hermit Druid being a top 2 deck despite nobody wanting to imitate that playstyle outside cEDH for 15 years.
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>>98449840
>People want their decks in Commander to involve the commander
is that why you cry when monoblack kills your commander and rips your hand?
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>>98449814
No one cares about rogsi
>>98449845
Rarely do I see people cry about that.
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>>98449845
This is why you're nogames.
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>>98449814
I'd be pretty shocked to see green cards in rogsi.
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>>98449628
I was disappointed that, so far, there was a single goblin card, and it was just a boros card that made goblins.
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>>98449849
>>98449850
you have a guy crying about boardwipe.dec you idiots
>>98449079
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>>98449867
there's a Jund Goblin as well
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>>98449877
Ah shit, I guess I missed it.
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>>98449879
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>no shattergang sisters
Fmccl
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>>98449893
Hmm, whats the plan of action when building these guys?
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Can you guys pitch me a cool mono white commander so I will finally have a deck to house all my snow-covered plains?
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>>98449914
Makes all your mana dorks activate your power matters stuff, let's fierce empath search way more stuff, makes flings and chandras ignitions more potent etc
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>>98449893
I'm sure there is a p/t matters deck in all of magic catalogue that cares about just not attacking or blocking, but I don't know it, or really am super interested in building it.
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>>98449914
>Goblincoomer needs spoonfed
Gee holly gee it sure is hard to go on scryfall and look up power-matters cards.
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>>98448401
Cedhcells(rogsiniggers) are already brewing shuffle tribal with this to exhaust opponents and force concessions
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>>98449942
That wasn't even me.
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>>98449948
they can already do that with rogishai, but yes yet another reason why draws should be losses
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>>98449914
Vehicles and Spacecrafts
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>>98449184
they come when the product is good
the real question is:
how do we get people who actively despise card games in the game? like dudebros and polarbears. that's the REAL audience this game should cater to
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>>98449893
Are these guys related to the Shattergang Brothers in the lore?
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>>98449914
Put this nigga in the deck and win with Revel in Riches
>>98449942
I have no idea why anons asking genuine questions is always seen as bad in this general
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>>98449977
No, they're just 3 sewer dwelling dudes.
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>>98449992
Everyone has a chip on their shoulder, or so it seems.
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>>98449992
>I have no idea why anons asking genuine questions is always seen as bad in this general
Because the smug and the retarded are ashamed of not knowing and hate seeing others having the humility to ask a question
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>>98449893
is this an automatic include?
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>>98450094
Pretty sure there's a red enchantment with this effect that doesn't require anything to be paid.
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>>98450094
A bunch of things like that yeah.
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>>98450105
I think it's this one
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>>98449893
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>>98445718
Yes. This is "please come back, we have put every single glup shitto from 25 years ago into this coomander product": the set

I fucking hate rulebreaker.

>>98445765
see this? this is not EDH. "durr durr this spell can be your commander" not it cannot, fuck off, get out, this is retarded
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>>98448573
she's cute
I love tiny women
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>>98450118
I'm a moron it's Warstorm Surge I should've known since I use it
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>>98450129
>I fucking hate rulebreaker
watch how they'll defend this while still throwing a hissy fit over hybrid change
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>>98450129
>see this? this is not EDH. "durr durr this spell can be your commander" not it cannot, fuck off, get out, this is retarded
we've had this for 5 years now newfag
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>>98450129
>see this? this is not EDH. "durr durr this spell can be your commander" not it cannot, fuck off, get out, this is retarded
Save me sheldon! Save me richard garfield!
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>>98450157
sheldon protects rhystic study forever
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>>98450129
>not it cannot
"Can" beats "can't" in the rules generally
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>>98450221
card text > rules text
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>>98450232
Yes, it would be like getting mad about cards saying "you have no maximum hand size"
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>>98450274
so why are we mad about hybrid again?
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>>98450276
Because sheldon said it doesn't work that way!
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>>98450282
yes i'm sure sheldon wanted sorceries as your commander too lol
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>>98450296
He wouldn't! We must suck and protect sheldon's dick at all costs!
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Reminder that Sheldon never banned Thoracle so using it on turn 2 is in the spirit of the format.
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New thread:
>>98450346
>>98450346

Jump ship whenever you're ready.
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>>98449177
Hello my name is Anonymous and I want to know what Acorn means
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>>98450123
is there just a green/black (and/or blue) card that does the Flesh side? Mimeoplasm I know does a similar thing for itself. but this exact effect is pretty dope.

chatgpt says it dont exist but I dun beliebe it
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>>98445848
I like it
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>>98448416
Sorry, chuds, Dyfed was always a Black woman
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>>98449628
I want the Skunk as my Commando!
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>>98445600
>TQ: What commander in the coming sets will you be building?
100% want to build that battle of wits fucker
i've wanted to make a tamiyo, field researcher deck for a long time, and feroz will do just fine as a substitute; he gels with her really well
and the muckslinger gang is going in kresh, the bloodbraided the instant i can get my hands on one
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>>98448498
Actually good card
>>98448482
Lmao turkroach meme magic
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>>98451640
>battle of wits
Go online and order your copy right now before it gets price hiked.
It's currently at 12 cents and it will easily go above $3 for a time
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>>98445600
>TQ: What commander in the coming sets will you be building?
I'm a latefag, I haven't even opened my FF precons yet. Might build Yshtola or Alela next



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