Post Your Damn Models edition. Previous thread >>98427886>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>Titanicus Compendiumshttps://gofile.io/d/1accdP>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>TQYou are in charge of making a saturnine terminator unit for your Legion, what is it.
Magnus should have been a woman. Hes too lustful for a man.
>tqWorld Eaters, Killsaws for the unit, led by Berzeker-surgeons. Special rule: Harvesting the seed
>>98448827Faturnine Learneans, let's call them ApopheansCome with fist and distingrator, can swap gun for some ultra-top secret mega volkite rapebeam, fist for axe or hammer, or both for conversion beamers.Line 1
>>98448827>You are in charge of making a saturnine terminator unit for your Legion, what is it.Well, either you go into making fat contekar (and have a fist + saturnine grade flamer/volkite combo) or you go with some sort of twin claws/headsmans axe terminators.Personally I think the axe boys could be most interesting since those would actually be something NL dont currently have. S+lots, D3, I-2. Maybe give them some sort of sonic/flamer template weapon as a secondary assault thing, probably with a status attached. And in fitting with NL terminators, built in deep strike.
>>98448827Blackshield saturnines: comes at a points drop but you have to buy all the weapons and the thermal shield but you can equip them with up to three heavy weapons or terminator melee weapons if you don't buy the shield. They're more likely to explode too.
>>98449005DESU, im now picturing a NL Saturnine armed with a pair of lightening claws that are some shit like I/+2A/+1S/AP3/D2 Breaching 5+ Shred 4+That shit would be cool as fuck and of course they would be Talon Power claws too. TQ: I would make Naufragia for Dark angelsThey would get the powerfist with out the plasma shredder, their primary weapon would be either the plasma bombard or they could upgrade to a phosphex weapon of some sort. It would either just be the Phosphex Canister launcher, like the leviathen has, or it would be a Heavy Flamer template, AP3 Poison 3+ Panic 3, breaching 5+ 2D or something. Then the Squad SGT would have a big fuck sword that was basically the same profile as a TGS but instead got Reaping Blows(3)
>>98449052I think naufragia should get essentially the big interemptor flamers. Template plasma. D2.
>>98449064Yeah but Naufragia specifically used Phosphex weapons Thats why i was thinking just letting them have Phosphex canister launcher as their range weapon, and note that they only get one of them per model, no doubling up on them.
>>98449052>pair of lightening clawsWhy not just straight Escaton power claws? It's on our legion list but can be taken by like one model that's not a character.
>>98449105Because i did not know they had a special power claw for their legion but that sound equally dope.
do these kind of boards with varied elevation work for titanicus/ligma?or is the constrained movement detrimental to the game?
>>98448827>>TQ>You are in charge of making a saturnine terminator unit for your Legion, what is it.Going off the bit of lore about AL use of saturnine:>Must start the game in deep strike reserves>Count as stationary for their occulix targeting auspex on the turn they arrive>Maybe gain +1 to hit with shooting attacks too, not sure if this would be too overpowered
>>98449118>Because i did not know they had a special power claw for their legionBecause only ONE model has it normally (the sgt of the contekar squad). NL have some baffling design choices. >>98449105>Why not just straight Escaton power claws?Because saturnines have their own weapons, giving one a "normal terminator weapon" would be weird. A saturnine grade escaton claw would be interesting though.
What are some old school forge worldisms you notice when reading the books?
>>98449143>A saturnine grade escaton claw would be interesting though.Thats why i think it would be dope to have a power claw that is like breaching 5+ with shred 4+ base D2, make them fucking monsters in melee.
>>98448827given nl got the shitty knockoff saturnine suits i think it would be funny if they leaned more into an overload/self-destruction forward loadout and moved a little faster or somethingcompletely unrelated question. i got a box of skulls(not battlefield trophies) for my own night lords, is there a 'too far' in using any of the non-tau xenos/daemon skulls as accoutrements in regards to historical accuracy?
>>98449196The escaton is already Ap2 base. Its functionally a thunder hammer with Shred. Last edition it was a power fist with murderous blow and shred. But it wasnt a thunder hammer so you would never use it.
>>98449216Damn that sounds good now. I mean i just think Saturnines with big ass claws would be scary as hell.
>>98449215>if they leaned more into an overload/self-destruction forward loadoutThey fiddle with the D guns (read: take all the limiters and safeguards off) to create Disintegration flayers. Overload 2 S7 Ap2 D2 flamers. Also the Invuln is only 5++ but they have the gorgon thing of "if they make any invuln saves all units within X have to take a status check or be stunned from a flashbang" because some genius made the power field unstable. >>98449223The issue is that saturnine fists are already extreme in what they do. Theyre AP2 D3. Its basically impossible to tweak that damage output much. Maybe give them S+3/S+4? Shred is funny in very specific instances (phraetus/custodes terminators) but thats about it.
I’ve got some saturnine termies & the lord. Anyone used them with World eaters to good effect?
>>98449235fuuuck now i'm picturing huron-style claws with D cannons in the palms
>>98449235Well ratehr then going raw damage and str, thats why i was saying go with + attacks and at init swings. S+1 AM+2 D2 Shred 4+ breaching 5+ get them all up in them guts just swinging power claws at Init. Maybe give them a rule like, and im just winging this. Gorefiends: If this unit kills a model in combat on your turn they gain a stack of gorefiend, for each stack of gore fiend they have they gain an bonus +1 to their fear rule.So the idea would be they could get up to +4 to their fear check if they kill a model in their combat turn each turn.
I've been playing Borderlands 3 where one of the characters can spawn and pilot a mech and now I want to build more dreadnoughts.
>>98449305>Gorefiends: If this unit kills a model in combat on your turn they gain a stack of gorefiend, for each stack of gore fiend they have they gain an bonus +1 to their fear rule.i like the idea of this, maybe even put it on a timer like if they're not actively racking up at least one bonus a turn the armor coincidentally starts fucking up and causing problems
>>98449120You don't want to restrict movement because of how important it is. Alternating levels like that are difficult because in AT your movement is restricted to your base size so the channels would need to be either impractically large of limited to models that don't benefit from it. I would say it's not valuable for Titanicus but it might be cool for LIgma.
Can the Collected Visions book be bought at Warhammer World?
>>98449427I kind of figured as such for titanicus but it is really funny that drainage ditches could theoretically defeat titans
>>98449481>drainage ditches could theoretically defeat titansDo we need to start the space marines and doorways conversation again
>>98449494a space marine can level an entire building and call it a daya titan can't level the entire region's elevation deltas
>>98449481Theoretically anything could defeat a titan you gotta talk in practicals son.
>>98449521>a space marine can level an entire building and call it a dayThen why do we need rhe space marine? Just use the building leveling gun.
>>98449527for fun
>>98449543Veteran HSS?
>>98449552Nah, just line men. I dont build them based on any "rules", either, other than the GOLDEN rule (cool).On a side not, FUCK the heavy weapons upgrade box set. Those plasma guns were a fucking nightmare to get to even SORT OF line up. Is it just because of the old forge world bodies? The heavy flamer arms were also pretty offset, but thankfully the little wrist guards that come with some of the tac squads helped hide the bad seams I guess....
>>98449565The new weapon kits don't really allow kitbashing, it's annoying to work with even when using the new bodies.
>>98448827diversifying your army with different armor types or rolling with your legion's preferred mark?
>>98449600>Option three, the big brained option Use specific patterns of armor for specific battle field rolesTacticals, and dispoilers? Mk 4 and 5Fast attacks, recons and seekers? Mk6Breachers, destroyers and vets? Mk 3 and 2.
>>98449600Option 3: heresy
>>98449589Oh, im sure if I REALLY went to town on it like I used to do back in the day, like cutting the arms into three or four sections, adding pins and wiring through the entire limb and filling the little gaps with a MINUSCULE amount of green stuff (which is a fucking NIGHTMARE to do with the regular old shit, its so sticky, and when you try to use water with is, it gets too slippery....anyone know some better putties or other tricks to use with it???), I could get them into ANY position, but ive just been too shaky these days to go that far into it, especially for regular line troops. Still, I fucking hate modern GW for what theyve done to those of us who love modelling and converting.....fucking kikes dont realize how much money they are LOSING from fuckers like me who would do shit like buy whole squad boxes and shit for two or three bits...and them doing this to the hobby has even killed the bits aftermarket. Used to be able to find individul bits all over the net, now theres barely anyone selling them, and the few who do want fucking kings sums for the pieces. Either that or theyre based in the UK, so shipping fees kills the entire option....
>>98449305>Gorefiends: If this unit kills a model in combat on your turn they gain a stack of gorefiend, for each stack of gore fiend they have they gain an bonus +1 to their fear rule.I think stacking too far is potentially too strong. Maybe something like "if they destroy a unit in close combat or make it fall back, they gain the fear(2) special rule for the remainder of the game"Or alternatively make it an aftermath option. Instead of pursuing (can they even?) they can make all enemy models within X" make a test vs stun or panic or whatever, as they go around blending the survivors and captives in gruesome fashion.
>>98449815Like i said it was just a random spit ball idea out there no real merit or backing behind it, but something to make a NL specific Saturnine unit feel unique Kinda like the WB one. Which so far those are the only version of saturnine that i have actually been im pressed with.
>>98449600Depends on what the backstory of /yourdudes/ is. Well equipped and organised force, closely following their primarch? Mono-mark units, one or two different types of power armour across the whole army.Semi-isolated force that already went through hell before the heresy started? Mix everything, custom bits, battle damage, the whole works.
>>98449600Depends entirely on your legion, the specific stuff /yourdudes/ are up to, and the timeframe they are set in. So basically, you can bullshit any excuse to have any combination (or lack thereof) of armor marks in your army.
>>98449633what can men do against such reckless hate
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>>98449277the claw from the Deldar Pain engine is about Sattie hand size btw (but there's only the right hand)
>>98450087It's also pretty thin compared to Saturnine fists.
>>98448827Sallies don't really need them, they're already insanely durable, never better than 3+ to Wound with armour that default cuts the Strength of most of the high-power weapons; and you can give your Command Fatties an additional Damage reduction on those weapons like they're the Legion that reinvented Saturnine so maybe they of all Legions might have special weapons - forge-crafted whatever I guess - but do they need it? you can just paint them up special and call it a daylikewise IH, they're already effectively T7 for Shooting damage on top, what else do they need? flat FNP2+ like our lord and saviour macca intended? some kind of bullshit Reanimation Protocols Reaction where they pass an Int Check to regain Wounds and bring back fallen members? how far can fuckery goI think for most Legions it's probably true that they don't benefit thematically from a special Legion unit of Satties getting rules, it's just DLC for the sake of it
>>98450085I'm trying but He's not making it easy>>98450091yeah but it's not like there's a real hand in therethe Sallies sattie at the start of their bit of Liber Astartes missed Isstvan because he was recovering from being upgraded to sattie, those boys do not have their arms and legs no more, that is definitely a small dreadnought
Ligma (iron balls).
His name is Samus. Samus is his name.
>>98450260>turns out instead of being some eldritch horror Samus was just some dude mad about getting stabbed in the back
>>98450219For IH I would play into the "walking dead men" thing. Give them automata or some other similar rule and FNP. A way to preserve warriors damaged beyond saving, more machine than man kept animate by forbidden techno-necromancy, Inured to pain but no longer the brothers they were in life, their remaining impulses are only to destroy in the name of bloody vengeance.
>>98450241>the handicap parking spotkek
>>98450219>Sallies don't really need themSure, but you could still give them something. If you want to be REALLY boring? Just straight up flamer ones. Each one has a forge crafted "inferno caster", something like a big version of what the infantry have. Can either fire a predator flamer shot or be a multi-melta.
>>98450304>If you want to be REALLY boring? Just straight up flamer ones. Each one has a forge crafted "inferno caster", something like a big version of what the infantry have. Can either fire a predator flamer shot or be a multi-melta.Oh, and since were getting really dumb? Instead of the normal thermal diffraction fields they have "inferno shields", which mean that in combat at the end of the phase any unit in contact with them takes (d6+number of models with the field) s4 ap- hits with the aflame(1) special rule. Oh and they have drakescale, why not.
playing ZM tomorrow1500ptswe're using blip markers, as bligh intended
>>98450479list?
>>98450484my list? sureforgot the name of the detachment, its the one with the elite slots>praevian>2x castellax w/ mauler bolt cannons, power blades>2x tactical squads w/ meltabombs>2x 5 lernaen termies w/ conversion beamers, TH on sgt (1x logistical benefit)>LB contemptor w/ power fist, flamer, havoc launcher, plasma cannonheadhunter leviathal>2x 5 seekers w/ meltabombs>2x volkite tarantulasoff the top of my head, i'll have to doubke check
>>98450513Should really paint my tarantulas, but doubt they'll see much play. People already hate my AL shenanigans without abusing tarantulas as well lol
>>98448827Brothers help me please, i need to paint up my Mortificator but like....I dont want to....Alternatively i have about uhhh 440 points in a 3.5k list i can screw with.
>>98451198Why not? Painting a single character is probably the most popular thing to do when it comes to painting.
>>98451198>MortificatorWhats that? With there already being a whole ass chapter called "Mortifactors", that name just confuses things even further....
>>98451653>ChapterYou're in the wrong thread, this is HH not 40k
>>98451668I know that tard, I was just mentioning it. When I tried looking up what a "mortificator" is, the only search results I was getting was the chapter. They were my main chapter years and years ago too simply because they were the only recognized chapter in the lore who still uses power scythes anymore and I always thought that was pretty cool.
>>98451676Your google-fu is weak.
>>98451681Now, see, THAT deserves a special character figure. Are they armed any differently than a normal tech marine, or what? I have so many dreads in my collection I HAVE to make one (or 4... or 6 even) of these now....
>>98451696Yes. A mortificator is a consol, has a corposant stave, and a special detachment in which you can fit three contemptors at once. They're pretty neat.
I have to say making a breakdown of titan heraldry is fun especially writing about the OG 80s titan banner iconography and banner types, Ty to the anon who suggested I do that. It's a more realistic and manageable project to make in publishing software compared with my previous expensive homebrew delusionsIt's really making me want to get a 3D printer to print out classic epic minis especially the titans. You can actually find all the old epic minis you might want if you look hard enough? I don't want drop £200-300 on a printer only to find there isn't a good selection of old epic STLs.
>>98451733Tried looking on Cults3D? There's usually tons of STLs for all kinds of warhammer stuff. There's supposedly also telegram groups who share stuff.
>>98451198Paint the Mortifactor
>>98449589It would help a lot if the kits didn't have both arms on the weapon.
>>98452232Hands and arms fixed to weapons have been a disaster.
>>98448827Blood Angels. Since no one else has come forward, far from it for me to break with tradition-strap a jump pack on it and give it dual Lightning Claws. If we can do it to a dread what’s a terminator?? Easy.Realistically? Uhm give it a dual-Illiastus pattern cannon arm like a Baal pred and a claw. I have no idea about stats but I do know BA ain’t got much for weapon-platform infantry so would it be better than their standard plas/disintegrate combo? Probably not, but it would look cool and if I had the skills and both aBaal Predator and Saturnine lying around I would try it out
Gib Liber Custodes scan plz
>>98452762Where are the fancy cont dread parts from? Which legions specific dreads?
>>98452799all from the BA contemptor
>>98452815I always forget that both the BAs and the TSs both got TWO contemptor dreads.
>>98451733What is this breakdown you're talking about?
>>98452762Why not use the torso?
https://youtu.be/h_ZUMCQUskgI rike the concept
>>98453207peak sloppa senpai
>>98453222Indeed it is that the existence of AI slop implies the existence of AI peakhttps://youtu.be/i_BHjkTSomE
>>98453194torso will go on the other contemptor
>>98453326uhh, noyou poor benighted creature
>>98453326>The existence of degenerate 4channers implies the existence of well-adjusted 4channers
>>98453433I mean, people would just say 4channers, without the adjective, if all of us were degenerate dy default
Is there something about power lances that I’m not seeing? They seem like a decent side-grade to swords, but I never see anyone use them. I was considering a couple on my Justaerin alongside hammers
>>98453618The issue is getting power spear bits that look good, and that don't snap at the drop of a hat.
>>98453629we got plastic for regular powah armour now at least
>>98453648Yeah, but they kinda suck when it comes to looks.
>>98453665the mkiv ones look better?
>>98453667Not from what I can tell. The biggest issue is that all those plastic spears have the hands orientated in weird ways, making the marines hold the spears like they're fucking retards.
>>98453618In a combat with other despoilers/assault marines, precision and +1 I means that you get to take out their squad's power weapons and sergeant before they can strike back, which can neuter the squad pretty dramatically. I like them
>>98453715Oh, I ordered one box mainly for spears and now I see the retarded poses. Fml. Well luckily it's pretty easy to remove one hand from the spear
>>98453878Yeah it can be fixed, it's just tedious work and retarded that you have to fix GW's mistakes.
WELP, ALL4WARGAMES.SHOP IS A FUCKING SCAM OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER.I ordered a Lucius Warhound titan, a cerastus knight head, a MK III command set, a legion basilisk AND a legion medusa...Give me some time here to get pics together anons, just WAIT until you all see what I got for $468.06.....
>>98454589>Russian turns out to be a scammerFork found in kitchen.
>>98454589Z is likely even worse. I haven't ordered from either in almost a decade.
>>98454598Well funily enough this is one of the first times ANYONE from russia has fucked me over, and ive bought shit from them for years. Arent half the recasters from russia/ukraine? NONE of them have sent shit this low quality to me.
>>98454755half of the damned thing is poorly done hollow 3d printing, and its COVERED in sticky residue, broken pieces out the ass.....Funny thing is, the knight head and the command squad were fine, of course...
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>>98454799What the actual fuck.
>>98454799Last pic. Now I get the fun of seeing if I can get this motherfucker to refund me. Wonder if I can do a chargeback on him or something.....
>>98454814WTG / AWG supremacy!China numba wahn!
>>98454860Unironically the only thing i like from china is that they sell models for what they should be fucking priced at.
>>98454755>Arent half the recasters from russia/ukraine?No idea, everybody I know only orders from chinese recasters>>98454867apparently GW products have a 40% profit margin on average, so a lost of stuff could be 2/3 of the price and still be profitable
>>98454911i bet it's close to 70-80%
>>98454911Well here is the thing to also consider, that profit margin only gets bigger as time goes on because the biggest impact of the post to make them, is the mold itself, so the longer they can use that model and the more models they can get outta a mold the cheaper it ends up being. GW shit is monumentally overpriced. Before it used to be justifiable because back in the 2000s and evne early 2010s, GW legit had the best models because they were the most durable, detailed, and easy to build outta any other option out there, everyone else either was using low detail plastics, high durbility metals but sucked to build, or fine detail but fragile resin. However, this does not hold today, modern printing and modern casting has become on par or even surpassed GWs quality. They are no longer the best in the industry but they keep demanding prices like they are.
>>98454860Yeah, wartable is pretty much the BEST out of all of the "public" recasters ive ordered from. I got accepted to a private recaster sub-reddit (I know, I have NEVER used that shit hole for anything, EVER, but I am still on the lookout for both a lucius warhound AND a thunderhawk transporter, so I figured I have to broaden my horizons SOMEHOW, and maybe they would at least be able to point me in the right direction...), so once I get some more disposable income stacked I was planning on trying some private recasters so I could see if they are any better like some people on here have claimed.I swear, if wartable just stocked a lucius warhound, id buy three of them right off the bat, even if they were like $500 each. Why is THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR so hard to find? Did they only sell a few of them back in the day, or what?
>>98454951>Thunder hawk transportSame brother, but that fucker is rarer then hens teeth .
>>98454951Also trying find a place that has the thunderhawk transporter. Want one as a memory of the meme strategy it could do in 1.0
>>98454971>meme strategyAhhhh the classic claw machine, yoink maneuver.
Anyone else have problems with putting cataphractii together, new or old? I always end up with gaps between the shoulder pads and the body. Also I think the new cataphractii kit might be a downgrade, old kit was way easier to put together. Side note, posting here has become such a hassle, my IP seems to be range banned every other week, anyone else having issues with that?
>>98455008>Also I think the new cataphractii kit might be a downgradeEverybody agreed the new cataphractii are a downgrade after just looking at it.With the old cataphractii you can put some glue on the inner rim of the shoulderpads, then glue them to the side of the torso. The assembly guide that comes with them only leads people astray.
>>98455035>I finally get to pull out a meme I thought would never be relevant again
>>98455035>>98455008Yeah new cata fucking SUCK. Not even mentioning that the legion specific bodies dont fit to them either so its like....what the fuck? The power fists looks like dog shit and the load outs they give you are AWEFUL. Again GW fucking wiffed HARD with the new catas.
>>98454755good luck with that head, lol
When Lorgar sent out his Chaplains to manipulate the other Legions, would they still be using the own Legion iconography, the one they were attached to, or a mixture of both?
>>98455409I think they were still wearing word bearers iconography if I remember right. Forget which book it was, but I remember in one of them they isolate a chaplain right after finding out about the heresy popping off and they kill him even though hes begging for his life saying he didnt know what they were talking about. Think it was some iron hands who did it, snapped his kneck and ends with basically a marvel quip style scene ending.
>>98454814bro posted gurouhhh yeah i would not have a lot of compunction to underhandedly getting my money back if that's what it took were i in your shoes jesus christmaybe the thing to stress is that you ostensibly ordered something designated a recast and got badly proonted slop instead
>>98455483Yeah thats what I just said in the email I sent them. I dont even think the titan parts are the proper size. Ill have to dig out one of my other warhounds (have 2 legit and one from WTG) and compare part sizes.If this was like a $200 order, id almost just chalk it up to "well, ya live ya learn", but damn near $500 epstein fun bux.....nah nigga, not like this....>>98455008>range banned IPShit, for some reason, every 10 or fifteen posts I make, I have to completely delete all my 4chan site data and then reverify my email address, meaning I have to ddo like 10-15 capthchas in a row just to post.
>>98450260>His name is Samus. Samus is his name.Samus is standing right next to you! *chuckles*
>>98455546that's what the fucking smell is?!?!lewd.....
>>98455531HA! And I just checked, the MK III command squad they sent me is missing an arm as well. Nice little cherry on top of the shit sundae.
>>98454911>>98454935Yup, in fact it's even worse that that, a few years ago we got some insider stuff on one of the dead forums from an ex-studio guy: they get that 40% profit on the first product run, and that margin would be much higher if not for the fact they plan things out to account for all their R&D and fixed production costs within that first production run. So once that first run of boxes sells through - which these days most of them do within the preorder window - every box they sell after that is almost pure gravy. We can't know the exact figures obviously, but if the combined cost of plastic pellets, packaging, warehousing, and distribution was to exceed ~20% of the sticker price I'd be amazed, and those per-box production costs are all that's left for them to pay on stuff beyond the initial run.Then consider something like TOW where not only did the models pay off their fixed costs decades ago, they did so before 20+ years of substantially above inflation price rises. No wonder that sticks around when it's basically just printing money for them.GW are legitimately one of the greediest countries on the planet.
>>98454951The reddit is pointless if it's the same one I'm still lurking in from ye olden tymes, because they will absolutely fucking nuke you from orbit if you actually try to get anyone to give you private recaster info, and I've never been invited to any of them despite posting multiple reviews of recasted WTG stuff.Honestly given how printing has developed I mostly just bought recasts of niche resin SG figs in recent times, and GW are phasing those out anyway. What's a shame is that the 3d scanning groups on trannygram are pushing exactly the same Super Sekrit Special Snowflake Klubhouse mentality as the recasters despite it making no fucking sense because unlike a recaster there's no business to be crippled, if GW nuke a channel you just make a new one and everything's reupped within a week or two, but they act like they're fucking Jason Bourne evading the CIA or some shit, it's pathetic(and they get nuked by GW in the end anyway).
>>98455654is it yoyhammer? thats the one that let me in, havent posted anything on it yet, been too busy to lurk and figure it out recently, but figured I will soon. Really just want a source for the white whales I posted and maybe find someone who will print shit like the 32mm direwolf titan ( https://minifreemarket.com/catalog/games-with-miniatures/warhammer-40000/imperial-knights/32mm-warhound-dire-wolf-heavy-scout-titan-alternativnyjj-varkhaund-pod-bolshuju-vakhu-74772#tabs-1)and all the upscaled LI weapons that ive seen online a few times. I know someone in these threads has a warhound with a volkite, but of course they just meme if you ask where they got it....
>>98455677>yoyHoly shit i forgot taht place existed lol.
>>98455677Yeah I've been on it since before they turned into a bunch of paranoid retards and went closed, but I took a hobby break for a couple of years and came back to find all the recasters I had info for had either shut down or changed emails, and if you try and find any info on yoy at all they just instaban you so what's the fucking point of it desu.
>>98455680It was the first place that popped up a few times while I was researching other places to get recasts BESIDES the public recasters. I dont have ANY experience with telegram or discord or any of that shit, so I dont even know the first place the start there....that whole side of the internet has just eluded me really.
>The rattle of the first snake rises into the air. The man’s eyes open a fraction wider. The serpent sits on the cracked earth. Its head is raised, its black eyes unblinking. As the man looks at it, a tongue flicks out to taste the air. Its scales are blue, the colour of an ocean under the sun. It flicks its tail and again the dry rattle rises. The man meets its gaze. From behind the serpent the head of another rises. The scales of this one are the green of summer forests, and the light draws a gleam of copper from a bone crest. It hisses. The fangs inside its pink mouth are black, needle splinters of night. Another hiss and the man has to open His eyes and turn to see the third and fourth shapes gliding over the ground behind Him. There will be two more, He knows, lying still, out of sight, coiled in the dust like a promise that is in truth a threat.-Siege of Terra: MortisThe Emperor in the Warp meets the Chaos Gods as serpents.But there are more than four snakes. There are two hidden snakes. Who are they?!
>>98455722Liquid and Solidus
>>98455722
>>98448827standard 40k indomitus pads or print picrel? i got these old chaos termies that i want to use with stripped iconography and modified/repaired shin guards, but i feel like the weathered shoulder pads would be a step too far.
>>98455722Malice and Vashtorr maybe? Or whatever the Tau goddess is named? Maybe shes another chaos god slowly coming into reality. I mean, we all know that none of it matters, they will either be forgotten about or just retconned later on. Fucking GW/BL doesnt care about consistent lore anymore...
>>98455632>companies are making money off reprintmany do you go after Penguin Random House this hard for reprinting Orwell
>>98455409when he whatwhat and they just let him? the only one of them who'd been publicly told he was wrong and needed to shut the fuck up with his bullshit, and the other legions just thought yeah, it's not like we have discipline masters or anything, sure, chaplains singing secular battle hymns, rightdid the other primarchs do anything like this? perty sending out guys to tell the other legions what facial expressions and idioms mean? angron sending his best chess players to teach the other legions patience? curze sending out his top guys to help his brothers secure their valuables so they won't be stolen?jfc who's buying these books
>Efael Sumn was born in the sands of baal, and elevated to the great angel's legion as their primarch was discovered by the emperor. ever a keen mind, he was introduced to the legion apothecarion and sought to save his brothers from death ever since. such was his skill and zeal during the great crusade, nearly a company's worth of officers owed him their life, and was thus justly awarded a place in the highest circle of apothecaries in the legion>his rise was cut short by a brutal ambush of the nephilim on an evac zone he was supervising. thanks to his selfless sacrifice, many wounded legionaires were evacuated, yet he himself could only be saved by the confines of a dreadnought sarcophagus.>he met his end on the sand of baal at the very end of the heresy, charging one last time into traitor lines to draw fire from his brothers.>interrestingly, the sarcophagus shown no sign of breach, self for the broken timer. cross-examination show the timer ended in the aproximate moment the emperor boarded the vengeful spirit.
>>98454911>40% profit margin on average, so a lost of stuff could be 2/3 of the price and still be profitable>kit manufacture price 20 bux>40% margin takes it to 28 bux>cut price by 1/3>lose a buck fiddy on every sale>stonksgenius, /hhg/ you've outdone yourselves, this is a new level of total fucking innumeracy, I didn't think you could do it, the odds were heavily against you not that you'd understand them if you knew what they were, but you beat the odds (that's good) and made yourself even dumber than before (that's bad), well done everybody, have a five thread tantrum about it
everyone without a proonter or a chyna hookup deserves to be bilked by gw at this pointshit is crazy
>>98455898>40% profit margin>calculates a 29% profit marginREVENUE MINUS COST, DIVIDED BY REVENUE, TIMES 100A $20 cost would mean a $33 kit to have a 40% profit margin, reducing by 1/3 would be $22, which is still a $2 profit given rounding. Go back to gradeschool math
>>98455898>Cost 20 bucks to make>Sells it for 28 bucks>OMG LOL YOU ARE SO DUMBuhhhhh anon, me thinks thou protest to much.You realize that if something cost 20 bucks to make, to have a profit margin of 40% you would need to sell it for $33.33, not 28 dollars.Sell price = Cost to make / (1-profit margin)In this case it would be 20/(1-.4) = 20/.6 = 33.33So i mean, if you are gonna shit on someone you probably should do your math first.
sorry to break the guessing game but retailer buy their plastic at 50% off GW's price. and they still make a markeup of it
>>98455946Yeah, if you are a realtailer you get it at 50% off MSRP, and GW is STILL selling that shit at a profit to retailer.
>>98455898Math-let anon is that you?
>>98455898jfc anon....
>>98455409Tgus is one of the best poses I ever saw in a miniaturey it radiatea so much power and hate, a wonder. Someone maybe knows what miniature is the body from?
>>98455409They still wore WB colours. >>98455873Sending marines to fight alongside other legions was nothing out of the ordinary. Lots of different legions send legionaries to other legions for some time, to exchange combat experience and tactics. Lorgar just used a very common practice to spread and influence the warrior lodges throughout the legions in secret.
>>98455409source on that lore?
>>98455936>>98455940>$2 profitwowee that'll make it all worthwhile when an oil shock hits and kills the business
>>98455035Lovely modelos.
>>98456018A hell of a lot better than the $1.50 loss your innumerate ass came up with. They aren't living off of one sale per year, these things scale and margins can be significantly lower and still work
>>98453715Fair enough>>98453905>Yeah it can be fixed, it's just tedious work and retarded that you have to fix GW's mistakes.Sums up the nu marks to a tee
They do be like that
I have been flipping through the pages for days. I read an End and the Death spoiler summary that says the Siege of Terra created the Chaos Gods.Can anyone point me to exactly where that is?
>>98456062you have been misinformed
>>98456062That summary was blatantly false lmfao.
>>98456018>Gets BTFO with how bad he is at math>Uhhh wow well its actually only a 2 dollar profit!! >Tries to ignore that they still were fucking bad at mathYou are the reason i need to actually check peoples lists because they cant fucking add.
>>98456062>too lazy to read>believes some random ESL retard's summary insteadOk.
Give me volkite pistols for both hands, damn it. I want to make Destroyers.
>>98456216no, learn to kitbash
>>98456235going akimbo as vulkan intended
>>98456235>>98456253Cool shit
>>98456216>>98456235>>98456253thank you for reminding me that all of my red hand fuckers need two bolt pistols modelled on their personcompletely slipped my mind
SHARPEN YA' SCALPEL, SON
>>98456350for real there's so much unused bolters, just cut the hand off and make whatever pistol you want
>>98456356斬奪
rescued this idiot from an awful fate as a loyalistmy very favorite modification to leverage on bulk plastic tacticals destined for better thingsbesides getting mk.iii marines to pay tip concerning that awful (to mine eyes) pickelhaube
>>98456427
Are these the OOP cata terminators? Want to get some of the first plastic ones that came out...https://www.ebay.com/itm/178335995238?_skw=oop+cataphractii+terminators
>>98456427if you shave off the chest cables will he die?
>>98456326You can have one pistol holstered the other in hand and a melee wepon
>>98455035Post the army shot again pretty please?
>>98456947Yes those are the plastic OOP catas. Also consider china recasts
>>98457179Thanks fren. Got a link to the recasts? Does wartable have them?
>>98456158Speaking about being too lazy to read.I said I was flipping through the pages. I went through the volumes several times and can't find it.>>98456070>>98456078Fuck.
>>98455722The Dark King and Malal.
>>98457169It would be extremely painful.
>>98457179recasts of plastic kits is always pretty rough
Hey remember how FW made the fucking awesome Secutarii but then BL never noticed or cared and the only campaign book to mention them was a LIgma book even though LIgma doesn't have any models for them?When people want to try and talk about BL I wish they'd remember that.
>>98457465>alwaysno you must be low IQ
running a small 1.0 event and put together a couple of missions (aka stole them from black books and other things)the first one will be played and whichever side is the victor determines whether the second or third mission will be usedalso I forgot hiroshimoot disabled pdf uploads https://gofile.io/d/tgcCya
>>98457527Anon most of the heresy range is never mentioned in BL, that's what happens when you retcon a bunch of shit to totally have always existed a decade after the series is being written.
>>98454911>apparently GW products have a 40% profit margin on averageMaybe for retailers.
>>98455898There's like 10c of plastic in an average size GW kit, the cost to them comes from the tooling and logistics
>>98457910literally me
>>98458368You will never be a seven foot tall space racist.
>>98458437have you never been a supeisumarine in a past life anon?
>>98448847Click on thread, first post is tranny subversion, leave thread
From what I can tell the Word Bearers were the first to use openly daemonic units on the battlefield. Would a Defiler be out of place as one of their many monstrosities?
>>98458512in the blslop there's laid out to be pretty analogous stuff having to be cleansed out of the palace but iirc it was an iron warriors construct or somesuch depictedi'd say that a defiler is a fair ways too far gone for real appropriateness in hh shit though, that's a demon engine of full blown chaos space marines, not really the proto-csms of even the late late heresy and early scouring
>>98458512Yes, because defiler lore specifically mentions how they were created on the orders of Abbadon to fight in his black crusades. So way past the HH.
>>98458526The age of the thing swings wildly. I've read it being made for the 13th Black Crusade, it first being sighted for the first time in 357.M41 at Urthwart, it being sighted for the first time in 781.M31 at Urthwart, it existence being alluded in ancient texts, etc.
>>98458586A lot of the "earlier sightings" are just in-universe vague posting. Something modern GW writers love doing as a lazy way to make shit seem more interesting, even when that isn't needed.
>>98458512There's a Defiler during the Battle of Calth, Garro fights it,
>>98458643>modern GWIts existence was vague back in WD282 as well, when the thing was first introduced. According to same WD, first official Imperial record of it was in 357.M41 at Urthwart. In the 2013 Index Chaotica: Defilers this was changed to 781.M31 during the First Black Crusade at the same location of Urthwart.Quite frankly, what is and isn't post-Heresy is entirely up to GW marketing. They make stuff that's HH era, but won't put it in the game while taking stuff millennia after the Heresy and just plonk it there without even rewriting the fluff.
>>98458512>>98458669"In James Swallow's novel, Garro: Knight of Grey, which adapts the audio drama Garro: Oath of Moment, the prototype daemon engine is depicted as a terrifying, crab-like fusion of industrial machinery and flesh-bound monstrosity. This unholy machine, featuring six piston-driven legs and a rotating turret, represents a very early, pre-heresy example of a Defiler-class war engine, embodying raw Warp-infused malevolence."
>>98458699I remain confident in my notion that GW puts out stuff like this to rationalize making the models available for HH down the line.
>>98458512>From what I can tell the Word Bearers were the first to use openly daemonic units on the battlefieldThat would be Sarum.>Would a Defiler be out of place as one of their many monstrosities?Yes, incredibly so.
>>98458762>Yes, incredibly so.Nope. See >>98458699
>>98458853BL isn't canon.
>>98458899This.
>>98458899there are as many canons as there are players and enjoyers of the setting
>>98458853May I ask something that is pretty unclear to me right now. What are you guys insist it's cannon? Black books? Why not Black library novels since it came out before the BB. Or Bligh did not use/have disregarded the Black library novels when writing the Black books? There were 17 books already release from BL about HH when the first BB came out. This is not bait or whatever, just my genuine interest in the matter since I am not sure what is the consensus here.
>>98459020>what is the consensus here.don't even bother my dude
>>98457405For you
>>98458727Yes or to shill them like including the saturnine termies in the BL Dropsite massacre book
>>98459020If i like it, it's canon, if i dont it's fanwank.
>>98459089based
>>98459089The only way to remain sane
>>98459020The problem with canon is that HH as a setting has esisted since RT and so parts of it really show their age along the fact that with so many different people worked on them with completely opposite ideas (look at Emps as an example) means that it's full of contradictory things. BL thinking that it was going to be a trilogy and then having to expand it to what it currently is due to being a buisiness also meant that it had to do a lot of expanding which resulted in some rather retarded things like bringing Loken back from the dead, the perpetuals, the cabal, etc... Bligh, coming in later, set himself the task that he would try to fill in gaps, explain with some other, broader perspective how certain contradictory things happened and also try to make sense of various retcons while expanding a lot and most importantly do it from a somewhat historical side. The black books are meant to be 30k osprey-esque books which along with the brass/resin/plastic kits would allow you to play something that's as close as possible to the fluff, unbalance and all. With the death of Alan, FW had to go off his notes before running out of enough content for a complete black book which resulted in book 9 and with his death book 8 had some rather awful fluff while book 9 had "kid with anti[insert thing] field at playground" tier fluff. 2.0 was meant from the start to check the waters to see if there was enough interest in a core-game-fied 30k with all the good and bad this implies which in turn resulted to some rather shit fluff near its end like the Mars book which was a part of the setting that in 1.0 had a lot of people waiting for and rather baffling retcons like cameleonine going from a chemical treatment to a type of cloth. 3.0's approach to fluff is pivoting back to 1.0 and has some cool parts but it's still not up there with things like Mor sending a moon into a planet. [1/2]
>>98459221[2/2]So it's a bit of everything, mostly the black books but also a bit of everything else. What sours me is that in almost a decade and a half of 30k as a game when someone brings up BL in most cases it's to justify playing 30k with their 40k army despite not really fitting the FW fluff and being lazy and boring which is a shame because there are some very interesting inspirations for armies in BL.
>>98459221Thanks anon. Here is my wip apothecary for you
>>98459318is that.... an aquila?....there on the waist...?...on what's ostensibly a traitor model???
>>98459417Don't look too closely at what's on the belts of the WE rampager models anon.
>>98459433suffer not the chicken to liveand yeah i know but i deface all chickens founddid you know there are chickens present on the standard tactical marine bayonets?they're everywheretarget-rich environment man
>>98459462>Going genocidal on chickens
Titanicus has...NOT been played today.
We all know about misspeaking and saying world bearers, but what about word eaters?
>>98458463Magnus can turn into a woman wdym.
>>98459433Jesus christ I forget how bad some of the book 1 models are man
>>98459417I have no issues with aquilas, my bikes have them. My dudes are not traitors, they were forced to be renegades.
>>98460040At least we had legion specific models.
>>98460068>forced to be renegades.u wot m8do tell
>>98460173NTA but usually it involves being told to pay taxes.
>>98460189that would explain everything
>>98460040Consider suicide
>>98459417this is 30k, not 40k. traitors are still imperium, they just want another guy on the proverbial throne. makes sense for them to still use the symbol of the imperium.
>>98450479Based
>>98460173My dudes were garnisoned on a planet. They didn't want to be there, but Luther told them that they should. Dad fleet came, bombed them. Out of 6000 around 500 survived. They don't even know what for.
>>98458899lmao cope
>>98459318Thanks, it looks great. I miss those apothecaries.
Got my combi weapon sprue early. It's just two of these sprues.
>>98461027I still think the shotguns look like ass. The combi-weapons aren't that great either.
>>98461290I might cut the shotgun's top rail off, see if that helps.I like the combi bolters. I'm gonna make some vets
>>98461027Congrats! Mine also arrived early. Gonna build one 10 man tactical vet squad with combi-meltas, and one with combi-volkites. Also making a recon squad with shotguns, not because they're remotely viable but just because they're cool.
What are some cool loadouts for individual vet squad members? The squad will probably be predominantly heavy chainswords, but I feel like a mono-loadout will look a bit boring.
>>98461620A mix of different power weapons, one dude with two lightning claws.
>>98457237>Does wartable have them?Yes
>>98448827is it too much if i take it personal when units i have put substantial care into lets me down on the battlefield and demote them?
>>98461715Not at all, that's half the fun of building /yourdudes/ and playing with them. Had a veteran squad that performed like ass all the time, so they got a demotion and repainted to be recon marines. But also had a tactical squad which did incredible stuff in most games, they got promoted to veterans.
>>98455897i know the lore is bad but i'm a bit sad painted models hardly get replies now
>>98461715everything i put on the battlefield perform badly so i don't care much anymore. i prefer when they get wrecked in melee, at least they go down swinging
>>98455897Kino. >>98461920Whats wrong with it?
>>98461920Nobody here paints or plays the game anymore, it's just 40k fags baiting each other and the poor drunkard anon posting into the void. Not that I'm one to say anything, I haven't played or painting anything for HH since April because I'm doing constant overtime.
how long does it take for wartable game to send an invoice ? been waiting for a week and getting worried
I meant to reply to this yesterday myself cause yeah anons model is cool. Maybe the lore is a little Mary Sue, but dread stories seem to lean that way anyway>>98455897Sick model anon. Good BAngel colors, and I like the white crest, good focal point
>>98461980Like, a day?
>>98462020>>98461927i wanted to make a rising star medic who got cut short and mothballed before dying to heartbreak/psychic shenanigans. i guess the 100 officer part get silly>>98461929>the poor drunkard anon posting into the void.i really am
>>98461980Can take a few weeks, depends on how much orders they're receiving. From what I heard it appears WTG is getting buried in a huge amount of orders at the moment, so things are even slower than usual.Once placed an order before christmas stupid timing, of course and didn't get an invoice until a month later.
>>98462043ah fuck me; i placed multiple orders thinking something went wrongthey should really add a disclaimer
>>98462056Can you still cancel the orders? Might wanna send a mail to clear things up otherwise.
>>98462072i'll sent an email to clear up things
it's not gonna get better any time soon
>reddit-tier sympathy fishing
still better than baiting for shitstorm
Is there really no link to the first edition scans in the OP anymore?
Any of you anons have experience putting the big reavers or warhounds together? Are they a pain in the ass?
>>98461305Like this?
>>98461027Do you think a side-loaded magazine approach for the bolter part is a feasible conversion on these?
apothuggery
>>98462949Yeah basically. Might even try for a combi-shotty I certainly have bits now.>>98462993There's actually a second ejection port on the other side of the bolters, so all you really need to do is slice off and replace the mag.
>>98461715No. Once my stupid Terror squad got rammed by a Rhino, failed morale and ran away. I shot the remaining fleeing fuckers in their backs and removed from play. I hate them haha
Anybody have a scan of the rulebook from the Burning of Prospero board game? Betrayal at Calth is all over the internet but for some reason this one is impossible to find
>>98463286You should have those for cheap on ebay
Which Legion would even use shotguns? Seems so out of place for them.
>>98463790Tourist.
>>98462459https://gofile.io/d/6mJ6y1
>>98463790Effrits
>>98464128bro is spilling the beans on the iron circle to (probably) a loyalist wtf???xx please kill this man
>>98464094Not an official unit
>>98464163Legacies 1.1, Pg4>‘Core’ and ‘Expanded’ Army List Profiles>All Army List Profiles for the Warhammer: The Horus Heresy – Age of Darkness range are divided into two categories: Core Units and Expanded Units. All of the Units in this document are ‘Expanded’ Units.>Both types of Unit may be freely used in any Horus Heresy Battle, and this category does not affect their availability as part of an Army or Detachment or the Rules for their use during a Battle.>As new Units and Models are released, their Army List Profiles will clearly state if those Units are Core or Expanded Units, and future publications may shift the category of a given Unit, with any such changes clearly noted in the Unit’s Army List Profile.
>>98463790>shotgunsthink like a fully automatic shotgun but scaled up to the same sort of overall destructive capacity as a bolter, at least in the case of these new bits, i think some of the older ones are more like enormous pump action things if i read them correctlyi don't think there's necessarily anything very niche to them. maybe not as mainline as bolters but dissonant from legions at large? not necessarily. these are both genuinely horrifying weapons that only an astartes can take fullest advantage of.
>>98462949Heavy shot gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLCWEp2zx5kbut an order of magnitude more fucked
>>98460446No, it doesn't.The aquila was explicitly the loyalist icon, and the traitors replaced it by the Eye of Horus.The only aquilas used by the traitors were defaced to signal opposition to the regime.
>>98459433Those are suppossed to be Isstvan III era models. So they can be loyalist or traitors, and the later wouldn't have changed their looks yet
>>98464193>Legacies
>>98464263>The aquila was explicitly the loyalist icon,no, that's the imperialis. the eagle symbol is demonstrably maintained by the traitor legions to some extent. the Rampager squad kit has belt aquilas on some of the bodies, and Tybalt Mar has a variant of the symbol on his armor. there's also the saturnine aquila. the latter two aren't really the traditional imperial aquila, but they're still aquilas, and demonstrate that the symbolism is not abandoned by the traitor legions.
>>98464385erm that would be the winged eye and winged skull on full display upon tybalt's plate, neither of which are chickensthe saturnine aquila of course, is
i suspect the plates where the chicken heads would be might actually have been defaced with the eye and skull and the plates they're mounted on thopretty based
Whoa...https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/weugytla/rules-update-for-titans-in-legions-imperialis/
>>98464458Ugh, got my hopes up that they actually gave titans some complexity and fun.
>>98460446Why the fuck is that backpack so fucking tall?
>>98464458>graviton obliterators on warbringer titansOh shit I hadn't thought of that. I guess T-Rex is getting an arm swap.Also Zhao getting a Black Book focushttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/790jwdai/pages-from-the-black-books-the-forge-world-of-zhao-arkhad/
>>98464485Titans are the most complex theyve been?
Give it BACK, James
>>98464579Its in legacies.
got bored and made this based on a conversation I had with the 40k players in the LGS
>>98464385Rampager models and others are from Isstvan IIIMar has a defaced aquila with the EyeThe Saturnine aquila is retarded nonsense that should be disregardedAn aquila without a head is not an aquila.The aquila is 100% a loyalist icon, and the only ones among traitors were defaced or removed after they revealed their true colors.This is heresy 101, ffs
>>98464662Im pretty sure there would be TONS of "traitors" who would still rock their aquillas/eagles just as an ironic "fuck you" to the emperor/the imperium as a whole. Not to mention its would be a great way to lull any normie into thinking >"OH MY EMPEROR! Those space marines who are approaching us really fast right there are here to SAVE us, YAY!"Before realizing how fucked things are about to get. I mean, legions like the Night Lords, where shit just kind of broke into roaming bands of killers pretty quickly, probably didnt concern themselves with their uniforms being very, well, "uniform"....
>>98464662>all examples of traitor legions having aquilas are mistakes
>>98464857>Picslop vs SOVL
>>98464658Based
>>9846465840k has been ran into the ground for so long only the most mentally broken, brainless cons00mers still engage with it
>>98464908Everyone at my local is having fun playing 11th
>>98464952That's my point. The only people that play 40k are those who will accept anything, or who don't know any better. Pigs will eat the slop, but that doesn't mean the slop is good.
>>98464658<3 u ligma/titanicus bros
>>98465010>HH>good rulesDebatable
>>98464857What part of "Isstvan" you don't understand?Do you get that traitors changed their iconography over time?Do you know that there were loyalists from traitor legions?Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>98465069>they're all loyalist traitors on Isstvan, everyone of them!
The untold story of the Drop Site Massacre is that it was orchestrated by Dorn in cahoots with Omegon in order to purge the Loyalist camp from potential turncoats and contrarian voices.
>>98464788That may make sense for the Alpha Legion, or mixed warbands of traitors like the ones involved in the Shadow Crusade.But your typical 30k force in the game is usually a slice of the classic units and allegiance of a legion. It's retarded to see post Isstvan SoH with aquilas, even if GW themselves are lazy and do not give a fuck in their official model photos.And GW doesn't give a fuck indeed. See pic related: That's 100% a WB chaplain even if it's sold as a generic centurion.But anon, you ask, why? It not only carries a proper crozius and not a maze, the one winged aquilas facing each other in the vexilla is a design that was only previously featured only in the pre-Calth WB Rhino/LR doors kit. QED
>>98465077>Posts art from Visions' section on Isstvan showing loyalist WE and ECyes
>>98465136These ones. Literally no other legion used that icon. And the meaning is subtle trolling: The eagles face each other because they actually represent infighting.>you're making this up!nope, that's the actual meaning of that icon as per the WD that featured the Saturnine box (just in case it wasn't obvious)
>>98465158And the LR ones
>>98465158Would be nice to grab these and remove the chaosy stuff to make Imperial Heralds.
>>98465158>>98465164WBs are the most spiteful chuds in the setting so they get a pass in wearing it in opposition to terra on that basis
>>98465144>section on IsstvanWhere does it say anything about Isstvan here?
>>98465276More loyalist traitors from Isstvan, I guess.
>>98465286WE sure did have a lot of loyalists for a bunch of berserkers.
>>98465309Like, a lot.
>>98465309estimated ~37,500 eaters betrayed and murdered on istvaan 3 as per the math on p.97 of book one
and then a quarter of the legion was off in the wind in one form or another, thus there are stragglers of whatever form
>>98464504>Xestobiax's origins was fighting fucking dinosaurs under a canopy of trees so high it had weather systems underneath itAWESOME
>>98465276>>98465286>>98465309>>98465321You don't know anything about what happened at Isstvan, do you?Fucking tourist
>>98465560Apology accepted.
>>98465560>projectingkek
>>98465462was Zhao-Arkhad an exodite/maiden world then?
>>98465877Read the pdf
>>98466058No.
>>98466084You'll be missing out
Disregard the Omnissiah
>>98466553yo that would kill a medieval peasant in like .0014 seconds
>>98466553Yo this shit fucking cums!
crip killer
>>98466851Blood Angel?orRust Devil?
>>98466909It's the pee pee poo poo marines
>>98466915"Rust Devils" would be a good name for an anti-mechanicus chapter of marines. Specially made/equuipped and trained to deal with or take out rogue elements of the AdMech or the Dark Mechanicus....
>>98466909xii goon
>>98466988I would have at least let a little bit of the white and blue show through, I mean, I see some of it on the upper thighs, but only now after you said which legion he is did I spot it...
>>98466999they have become one with the war itself....,,,,
>>98467011I thought all the World Eaters who went full butchers nails psycho comepletely dropped their bolters for their chain axes? Because by that point, shooting and reloading was WAY to slow for their 31 hour kill time limit.I want to model a few of my WEs using their bolters, sans magazine, as clubs because they fully snapped and just decided to go "bonk mode" caveman style.
>>98467063eventually they did, the despoiler tsunamis are where doctrine was expunged once and for all during the siege in a sort of critical massthis is not quite there yet, but marching towards!the implants in their heads haven't been installed for quite as long as most of their kin by happenstance atop
>>98466851>the Punjabi marines of the streetshitters legion
>>98467223"Beware the feared and reviled Dalit Detachment!"
>>98462459these paintjobs are amazin'
>>98467223kek
>>98467554>50 Reaver TitansDear lord
>>98467554>you can have 50 reaver titans for less than a used car Sounds like a good investment to me
Who else glansmaxxing?
>>98464141The Iron Hands probably have a lot of goodies from all the legions
>>98468094>What every legion would sound like if they were written like the Dark Angels
>>98468085those are pretty bussin'if i can eventually find them on telegram i might well have reason to do up a smol bike squad
>>98468085Well, guess it was foolish of me to think making jetbikes even more ugly than FW's dick bikes couldn't be possible.
>>98468526okey, which jetbikes you think do like nice or how do you think a good jetbike should look like?
What were the Iron Warriors ties with the Mechanicum like before/during the Heresy?I can't image they'd be all that into the more religious aspects of it, but that they're both technowankers I suppose at least one Forge World would be in cahoots with them.Didn't Perturabo field special automata that he designed himself because he couldn't trust his Astartes?
>>98468729There's only one answer
>>98468729Mk.XIV pattern would be nice, but I'd also love something like the ones Zealot made based on old art (like >>98465276).
>>98468755>>98468778Understandable. I do think all of those are either OOP or were never produced, while the "penis bike" is in production and in plastic instead of God aweful resin.
>>98468834Aesthetics > material.
>>98468834I will NEVER forgive Bligh for literally and figuratively pulling those dick-jetbikes out of his ass.
when liber antiquia
>>98468865That is a mind set one can have. And I am happy that you have managed to get just the kind of jetbike you want.>>98468869I like them, because they are in plastic and easy to conver. Also because of the extra lenght and girth, it is easy to use them as conversion source for marines in w40k. So you can have bikes for two armies just by switching riders. also the man was on his death bed, being slowly killed by cancer. You can make a "mistake" in such a state.
>>98468920whenever the panoptica guys get off their fat fucking asses and finish playtesting it
>>98468965So right after Circle Edition (whatever it was called)
>>98468733pretty good, they had their own mechanicum offshoot iircyeah Perty got the iron circle autometa after his termi bodyguard failed him at Phall.
>>98468995FUCK I COULD BE PLAYING ELDAR RIGHT NOW AT MY LOCAL HH GROUP ENJOYING NARRATIVE KINO IF THEY WERE PLAYING 2.0 AND NOT STUPID FUCKING 3.0
>>98469199>EldarFuck off back to /40kg/ you disgusting xenos NPC
>>98469239please brother PLEASE LET ME ESCAPE MODERN 40K HELL THE BUFF STACKING THE STRATEGEMS THE MTG REFUGEE SHIT PLEASE BROTHER
>>98469260You got what you fucking deserve.
>>98469279IT WASN'T ME BROTHER I WASN'T ME I JUST WANT MY 2ND ED ELDAR KINO BACK NOOOOO
>>98468834the one Sammael has in 40k, and the Dawneagle jetbikes the 40k Custodes get are pretty similar to this >>98468755 design. moreso Sammael's. the Custodes ones are supposed to be crusade era relics, so kinda odd they didn't get ported to 30k, but someone in the leadership really hates the idea of models being cross-compatible in their different game systems.
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