Previous: >>98450346Mystery Food Edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: wackiest deck you've built that actually won a game? like say an all kev walker deck?
>>98453397You're so lucky you got this done fast. I was cooking a truly rancid OP.
>>98453411Post it anyway.
'ate Maro'ate FIRE
>>98453397>TQ: wackiest deck you've built that actually won a game? like say an all kev walker deck?In the scheme of things almost any commander deck can "actually win" a game. The one that's raised the most eyebrows at my LGS is probably my sticker deck, though it being buttressed by>Ukkimawho is inherently busted as fuck high-powered slop doesn't make it TOO surprising when it wins.Other than that probably Gallia satyr shit heap. She's deliberately "built wrong" without any overrun effect, so she just loses to board wipes and blockers and people playing the game of Magic.I also ran a Mairsil the Pretender, creatureless Proteus Staff Goblin Charbelcher list to decent success. But that was back before covid hit and I played at a much sweatier LGS.Naru Meha monoblue storm with the only wincon being cast x copies of Eternal Dominion was novel at the time as well.
Your commander is a bug nowFuck you
>>98453522'ate UBluv MBC
>>98453554Heh way ahead of you
>>98453596Would a deck with that thing at the helm unironically run Skyknight Legionnaire or is that a step too far?
>>98453610>3 mana 2/2 flying haste>too farWut?Buddy there's like 6 blue 2 mana unblockables, you run all of those, and some doublestrike enablers. Bunch of boros cards that innately have or can give doublestrike too
>>98453602soul
>>98453647I really fucking hate roaches and I don't like looking at that card
>>98453610Skyknight legionaire is my favorite card.That said, it's entirely outclassed by a half dozen other Hasted Flying 2 power creatures with CMC 3 or less that are playable in RW.Hardened Academic is the newest one with optional lifelink and graveyard shenanigans, and only costs RW.Shivan Devastor is a flexible Skynight.Chandra's Phoenix has recursion.Detective's Phoenix can become an aura and has recursion. Jack of Hearts has power up and a death blast.Rainbow Dash has a funky mana generation/card draw ability.Rem Karolus is a legendary direct upgrade to Skynight with a bit of Gisela theming thrown in.There's a few others with drawbacks like can't block, and there's also Malcolm the Eyes, Lighting Stormkin, and Sprite Dragon showing that UR is the favored Flying+Haste colors, which is unfortunate. Overall, it's really a shame how hard Skyknight has been powercrept over the years, since most of these cards are not even seen as being all that powerful and they're all stronger than the Legionaire.
>>98453784>Rainbow Dash has a funky mana generation/card draw ability.If you're going that far just run Tormented Soul
>>98453610Just play the evasive 1 drop blue stuff.
>Be exited about home>there are only like 70 cards that fit his tribes in his color. >They are all mostly bad, old cardsFeels sad.
I actually hope we do get a My Little Pony Universes Beyond. I'm somehow more okay with the idea of ironypilled sets than the slop we've been getting. Give me Secret Lair: FNAF.
>>98453840The problem is design-wise he's boring as fuck. You get to play whimsical creature types toward uninteresting ends. You're curving into dogshit creatures hoping to resolve your commander, play a ramp spell or two, and mill everyone out. Without your commander you've essentially played four vanilla creatures.
>>98453840Homer is a wincon from the command zone once you can loop infinite landfalls
Is this worth playing in Rakdos?
>>98453865It's not worth playing at all
>>98453868Why not? Sure, if you're there to make friends I guess it's not worth it, but it can absolutely save your skin and win you games.
>>98453887the cast trigger falls short of being a wincon and the extra draw is irrelevant at that point
>>98453602These two better be voiced by Cheech and Chong.
Mail call faggotrons.
>>98453907I posted my mail last thread.
>>98453894Do you even know how the card works?
>>98453668that's why it's good art
>>98453865it funny if you can dodge draw like with the wild wasteland enchantment
>>98453907Saga creatures are sweet design but they're soooo bad
>>98453922if i'm going to exile all but 6 cards of my library i might as well go all the way for one mana and just win from there with a variety of wincons that don't have to involve thoracle
>>98453887>if you're there to make friends I guess it's not worth itIt's not nearly as powerful as it sounds anon. You could win the game for 8 mana in any combination of colors. You're going to make 6 black to cast this thing because it can't be cheated, and then what? Your deck goes too, so you'd better have something to mill or draw everyone out.Like maybe you cheat it out with Cruelclaw and have mill 6 in hand??? Fantasy land.If no one is drawing extra cards, 6 turns to draw to 0 is longer than some games go in their entirety.
>>98453944Doomsday wins you by milling everyone at once, no thoracle involved.
>>98453935They're fine. I think this is a deck that'll get carried by Brenard being an inherently busted casual commander.
>>98453958you will die first thanks to the extra draw so you're going to need another card to win the game and at that point congrats you have a worse combo than consult + thoracle variant
>>98453953>You're going to make 6 black to cast thingSometimes I question if people here actually play
>>98453857yeah the other two tarots have interesting and unique effects but he just mills
>>98453972you don't play the game the way we play it that's for sure, krrik has better combos to do than play around with excruciator
>>98453975He doesn't even play. He just larps as a CEDHtard.
>>98453397>TQThis was pretty fun. Good thing no one had interaction until I already had hexproof.>why yes, I will make 32 battleaxes
>>98453907gl on the brew saganon hope it's fun to pilot
>>98453784He probably can't even be justified in a Ferrous Rokiric deck at this point which is frankly fucked up.
>>98453907This is all for Dr.Eggman
>>98453990I'm worried it's going to be one of those concepts that looks better in my head than it plays. There aren't enough saga creatures to chain into with the birthing pod + enigmatic incarnation package, so I'm buttressing it with high cmc evoke creatures that will become tokens you can pod out of.But I've got time to figure it out. I'd like to keep my current deck together, and there's more shit commons in the mail. So it'll be a week or two.
>>98453907this is like why I just bought the Tidus command blitz FFX deck. you get a lot of these cards. theres tons of playable stuff for white green and blue. plus in the collector booster I got a 2nd, foil Sphere Grid which is great for any Voltron commander and was another +$20 in valueif you see an LGS selling for $60 (what I bought it for in May) its worth it in staples, full art lands and the collector sample pack.
>>98453972>>98453975so anyway I cast lightning bolt in response to you being down to 2 life and you're outta here. just like you do the the necro scammers
>>98453989Forgot pic
>>98454063sorry anon but we stop nausing/necroing once we hit 5-6 life for obvious reasons (like not dying to a topdecked fow)
>>98454012Gl anon, I love enigmatic incarnation
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98454124Explain
>>98454135it was rebunked
Will Scion of Peace should be more fair for Bracket 3 than his sister right? She seems to lead to some absolute shenanigans with unbounded self-drain options in black/redthere doesn't seem to be any for life gain at least
>When you on the train and she sees you building UB on moxfield
>>98454226Both commanders are unfortunately "untap, I win" tier, even if Rowan is markedly stronger.
>>98454231>I want to hornypost, but need an excuse to post in /edhg/!
>>98454226Seconding:>>98454240I built a Rowan deck and the play pattern is so boring because she activates as a sorcery. It's just>pass>wait a rotation>untap>resolve my life loss triggers>MAYBE cast something extra to lose me life>turn Rowan sideways>play X spells>if did not win, repeatI can't imagine Will being any different. In terms of fucking up your opponents yeah i guess UW has less options than RB so is going to be slower. But trust me anon they're boring as fuck to play
>>98454306Yes?
>>98454231Women actually do this when they see my Niv-Mizzet, Parun alter proxy.
>>98453522BASED
>>98454315post it
>>98453865This card is ass.
>>98454306found the ubhater
>>98454342Didn't it win a protour or some shit?
>>98454327I can't because his ass and balls are visible.
>>98454347>protoursir this is /edhg/
>>98454311>>98454240Fuck. Any suggestions for interesting or fun commanders in Azorious then?
>>98454360But you didn't say "this card sucks IN EDH"
>>98454372it was implied as such in prior posts here
>>98454365Isperia hatebirds of course.
>>98454365inniaz
what's the likelihood MBC will have another junk commander?It's my favorite color combo but all it gets is +1/+1 counters, tokens and enchantments for some reason
>>984544790, we got the full list.
>>98454493>still no skeleton commanderI hate them. I hate them so much.
>>98454479if abzan really is your favorite you would know it cares about big butts and does stuff with the graveyard too
>>98454503toughness matters is not a real archetypeyou play shitty creatures and get the "privilege" of attacking with them if you have a do-nothing enchantment outyou know, that thing most creatures can already doI fucking hate what they did
>>98454499the moment they print a do thing draw card skeleton commander, their appeal evaporates. also, already got 2 last year so I'm good
unlimited print run announced. as long as you order within 24 hours, you'll get the deck.
>>98454537I might actually buy it then.
>>98454479They peaked with Karador and it's been downhill ever since.
>>98454539full deck list and articlehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-commander-deck-hatsune-miku-decklist
>>98454537They finally fucking get it, holy shit
>>98454541kinda lackluster but the finale of devastation and vorinclex is nice
>>98454479>>98454499>>98454540>Reject Modernity>Embrace Tradition
>>98454541Looks shit and gay.
>>98454585if that's shit and gay then what's this
>>98454541>no new art for 80% of the deck>including obvious shit that people buying this would want like sol ring and command tower which are just random fucking reprints from random sources??????????????????Don't these secret lair commander decks generally have entirely new art?
>>98454608Very shit and very gay.
>>98454610somehow they didn't have the budget to give every card a miku alter
>>98454577this guy is kinda poo poo
>>98454608You're obsessed with that card and the fat dude with the guitar.
>>98454610no they dont. angel deck had 9 new artworks with 2 being tokens.
>>98453596>massimo casts lots of spells, flubs triggers on spell cast>flubs lets you play additional lands, homer has landfall>flubs discards, homer mills, and massimo uses the cards in the graveyardfunny synergy. i can only imagine the clusterfuck if they print all of them and you stick everyone in a deck
>>98454608Shit and gay, just like Magic the Gathering
>>98454650>stop noticing the gay shit or else i'll call you obsessed!ok troon
>>98454637
>>98454087ive played against multiple people on MTGO who go down to 2 and YES I have bolted them before
>>98454302won against some randos last night with this goofy ah squirrel
>>98454682There are thousands of cards in the game, and every chance you get you talk about the same ones about fat dudes, homos, and fat homos, completely unprompted.This is not straight behavior.
>>98454682Noticing it is one thing. Downloading to and putting in into a large file with all the other gay shit in the game so you can spam it every chance you can get is another.Doth protest too much, homo.
>>98454637Don't you know that's the meta now? You pick a commander that is either outdated, or purposely not that strong so you fly under the radar at the table, then swoop in for the win at the end. Teneb late game can absolutely run away with the game with his ability and stats.This is why I only have one commander in the top 100, and tell people to play commanders way outside of it if they can. If people don't recognize your commander, or dismiss it as old and outdated they will underestimate your deck.
200 posts until I get to put gay bolas in the OP
>>98454705>>98454707>um... you spam it>you mentioned it so you must be gay tooAll troon tactics, you're not fooling anyoneAnyways i cant wait for harry potter UB it will sell billions
>>98454767We've been in the thread for more than 20 seconds.Gay.Delusional.Obsessed.Faggot.
stop talking about gay shit and POST YOUR DECKS
>>98454758God bless, hero of the thread.
How come they're not making every commander Miku card ugly as sin? I'm confused. It's like they're learning from the previous Miku sets.
>>98454479It also gets graveyard shenanigans when that isn’t what Sultai is doing.
>>98454767Every fucking day you're looking for an excuse to post about gay dudes. Nobody else does this. It's never about the troon characters or any of the other faggotry, it's just specifically gay dudes that are either fat or bearded with you. Most people don't let the pride shit SL live in their heads rent free for years, but you obsess over them almost daily.>Harry Potter UBYeah we know you want to fuck Dumbledore you raging closet faggot.
>>98454802Because this one costs $150.
>>98454791Very tasteful, love the Mirrorweave + War Zone. Wouldn't terra eternal be worth running over consecrate land?
>>98454541muh dick
>>98454577That guy sucks ass.
>>98454791
>>98454810Might only get the singles then. Doubt it'll be significantly cheaper that way considering Mikutax though.
>>98454791I have no idea if I showed this one yet
>>98454743>purposely not that strong so you fly under the radar at the table, then swoop in for the win at the end.This is gay though.
>>98454791Cant remember if I posted this before, but my Mr. House diceroll tribal/gambling deck. If I roll high I stomp, if I roll low I do nothing.
>>98454829I ran terra eternal but it was cut since it's a go tall rather than go wide deck, though I'm considering adding it back since I've put in armageddon
>>98454898>ai playmat
>>98454791Still Reedin
>>98454908That playmat is picrel and I dont believe that was slopped
>>98454778>>98454805>uhm, gay!!>stop obsessing about gay dudes!!don't worry troons i call out the fat landwhale lesbians too
>>98454897if you don't show your hand every game that means you're gay
>>98453907I wasn't expecting this to be here today, only ordered it on Thursday. Lucky day.
>>98455005Just can't help himself. Any excuse to post the precious gay shit he's in love with.
>>98455032funny how you're not calling me obsessed over lesbos now huh troon lol ywnbaw
>>98455005See, this is what everyone means. You see a muscle woman and think "God, I wish this had a penis!" There are actual troons in the game you could be posting, but instead it's just another body you wish were shoving a cock into your ass.
>>98455075>There are actual troons in the game you could be postingif that's what you want sure
>>98454670The Moon has a lobster in the art, so I predict it'll have the lobster subtype, likely being a homarid. Also both the moon and homarids are connected to the tides so it makes sense flavorwiseThe Star maybe will be a starfish, to have some more tribal synergy with Homer within the cycle
>>98455068We already established you are obsessed with everything gay. Not need to keep repeating it.Just go fuck a tranny and get it out of your system
They somehow fucked up the Miku commander deck, again. I love MTG and i love Miku, i have a shrine with 10+ figures of her on my shelf. By all accounts i should be the one who wants to buy this product, but once again they made it so shit. First off i'll at least give props to the fact that they hired good artists this time around, cool. That should be the bare minimum, and i'm happy they did it. But then you look at the decklist, and its just a very fuckass Selesnya deck that doesn't really have anything Miku related in it. Why not reskin her as one of the actual bard-like legends in the game instead of making her some random angels? All of her cards are vaguely thematic to music, but in all the wrong ways like by having "archangel of tunes" instead of archangel of thune. Additionally, there's only like six actual miku art cards in the whole deck, if you don't count lands. You really couldn't make a whole deck of miku/vocaloid artwork? Why the fuck would i pay a premium for what ends up being a secret lair's worth of miku artwork and a bunch of random cards with regular art i don't want, in a deck that plays in an extremely generic manner? Its just all so bizarre man. Also don't even get me started about the flavor text on the Miku cards, who the fucck is writing these?
>>98454791great bracket 3 level deckeven though IRL no one uses brackets
there are 22 major arcana so each of the 10 tricolors will have 2 entries + one probably being colorless and with at least one being 5c (most likely Za Warudo)
>>98455125>Secret Lair Commander Deck: Hatsune Miku was designed by Studio X's Carmen Klomparens>Carmen Klomparenstroons strike again, go cry in a corner >>98455119
>>98455130Maybe they'll have 10 guild-colored legendsA colorless and a 5c seem like a given. Maybe the tower will be a colorless artifact
>>98455021>浜学系学品盗子自索丹what it mean doh?
>>98455084There he is! That's the dude I mentioned in >>98454650You're a gay autist with a type!
>>98455104are they making tarot magic cards? this actually might get my GF into MTG
>>98455137I don't know who that person is, but they clearly just don't give a shit about Miku at all, and probably only know her as "that one anime character who sings". Its a very lukewarm product that feels like it didn't even try, and expects to sell just because it has Miku in it. Its dissapointing because in general MTG has been really good at adapting other universes and characters, presumably because they actually asked people who know those things and are fans of them to do it. With this one it feels like they just gave the task to someone who went "whatever lets just print a random lifegain deck with some reskins" and didn't put in any more thought than that
>>98455170>I don't know who that person isall you need to know is that person's a tranny and >>98455160 is hard at work playing defense, might even be Mr. Klomparens himself
>>98453397>TQI don't usually build wacky or meme decks. Closest is probably my new Pharika deck, it won its second-ever game mostly by dint the two most powerful players at the table eliminating each other first. After that my last opponent couldn't find a boardwipe to deal with my army of snakes being pumped by a Thunderfoot Baloth.
>>98455165Yes and no. They've made 3, in a "secret cycle" they're not drawing attention to it, so the likelihood of it happening with all of them is probably slim.
>>98455170Are you sure these issues aren't caused by the fact that miku is just a paper thin concept?
>>98455186as simple as miku may be they could've put some references to things like her leek for example
>>98455186In part yes, but also not really? I agree that there isn't much to her, she's just a mascot for software. But even if you go on the basic angle that she's a musician, why not have a deck that is actually themed around music instead of making a lifegain deck for no reason? And honestly, Miku has been reiterated countless times through the years, and you could do so much better if you're a fan. Off the top of my head why not reprint her as a vampire in refernece to the Deco 27 song? Why not reprint one of MTG's queens like Marchesa as her as a reference to World is Mine? Why not print her leek like the other anon said as an equipment? The answer probably is that this Carmen person didn't give a shit and barely knows anything about vocaloid culture.
>miku deck>its just barely different pictures of the same anime girl in the same pose and same situation and same background and same art style 100 timesDo animefags really...?
>>98455229This is also a problem, the art direction is so fucking lazy. She legitimately has the same pose for like 90% of the cards. Its the most bland, uninspired artwork possible, evne if they got some good artists this time around. You go on twitter and search Miku's art tags and you'll find infinitely more expressive artwork of her's being drawn for free. Again, presumably because this deck was made as a quick cashgrab because nobody in the development process gave a shit. I don't know, its just annoying. I should like this, i should want this, but i just don't. Guess it just saves me the money.
>>98455165only 3 so far. meant to post pic related in my previous postas the other anon says it's not an explicit thing, they might do them all but it might take years and they will scattered across different commander products or hell, it might just be an easter egg and they won't continue to make them, maybe only when they get the inspiration to make one
>>98455180You're so assmad about being called out for being a homo that you're trying to rope random conversations into your seething.Were you secretly hoping that Joven would be gay too you raging homo?
>>98455170>>98455170and thats a GOOD thing
>>98455182interesting. how might I find the ones they've made? when I use the google machine it returns results about some "Oracle" deck of not actual cards related to Theros and related to D&D or something.
>>98455286>>98455249im dumb should have read further. thanks
>>98455249I didn't #notice Massimo and Homer making this into a cycle that's actually really cool. Ideally we'll get the full 10 triples, the 5 quads and monos a wubrg and a colorless
>>98455249yeah I think they should try and make SLD of these cards but make them like the classic 1973 tarot art. it would get actual girls interested in magic (but they dont want that they want troons)
>>98454877>ai playmat
>>98455251>if i keep telling you that you're a homo you'll stop calling out troons right?!let me guess you're going to say carmen is a real woman huh? lol
>>98455321Its working, after all, you're here.
>>98454929whoops wrong anon
When did this thread get jeeted? Christ
>>98455352I have no idea what this means
>>98455356Non-Redeemer Spotted
>>98455366ok
>>98455339you don't belong here. reddit is more your speed.
>>98455375Highschool may be yours.
>>98455336I have no idea who you're fixating over now but I'm willing to bet it's another person with a penis.
>>98455476troons secretly wish they didn't give themselves a gaping axe wound, you'd know firsthand
Who let /pol/schizo get unbanned?
>>98455505I don't think the nigga ever posted one of his decks here now that I think about it
>>98453907This nigga likes sagas
>>98454537>According to WotC, this experimental change is a direct response to the issues buyers faced when trying to order the Goblin Storm Secret Lair Commander deck.Guess we gotta make sure this is the best selling SL deck of all time
>>98454898Based gambler. When Gambit comes out I really plan on doing a gambling deck myself with him at the helm even if he isn't synergistic
>>98455500>Anon keeps saying this game is full of fags and troons>Yet keeps coming back>Anon saves card art of burly men for the explicit purpose of them being gay and/or burly>Anon wants to roleplay that everyone he's talking to is a troonI'm noticing a pattern here...
>>98455249I need the world and I need it to be time themed to fit into my vampire Obeka deck
>>98455580I'm not a faggot! As usual gaybolas furfag just keeps defending DEI like he defends UB to mark his territory in the thread.
>>98455580the gameplay of this game is good enough that i can enjoy it despite the faggotry, doesn't mean i won't call it out>if you talk about burly men that means you're gay!!yes anon and i'm sure you're the manliest man itt given how you religiously watch beauty pageants, nothing more manly than watching pretty women in pretty dresses and swimsuits right?
>>98455592>Anon is so threatened by a shitpost that he sees it everywhere>>98455604>Boldly samefags, says the gameplay is still goodThe delusional mind of a multiple-personality homosexual.
>he thinks it's samefagging
>>98455617you realize you're the only fag who loves fag shit here right
>>98455652Nobody else here has a designated folder for gay Magic cards or wishes they were talking to troons.
>>98455580Hey! Stop it. He's the only one allowed to nootice anything!
>>98455554>They are attempting to deal with the scalper problem by making them to order for a window of time instead of first come first serve.>Gotta make it some kind of conspiracy theory.
>>98455669ok fag
>>98455705Where did I say it was a conspiracy you retard?
>>98455709>n-no u!Lol
>>98455669>Nobody else here has a designated folder for gay Magic cards or wishes they were talking to troonsWhere do you think we are
What's the last combo that won you a game, bros?>pic relatedIt's pretty much impossible to get out of. Both players left conceded after one loop.
>>98455714but enough about you being a fan of miss universe, truly the manliest show of all time
>>98455727Very good, yes, excellent. Do you also play Dawn of the Dead?
>>98455727>Infinite combats in boros? Daring today, aren't we.Hey, it works.
>>98455727Last time I just sac'd Juri with Evereth who was at a 19/19 I believe then swung. Not that impressive in the slightest
>>98454758If hes so gay why does he have a female sex slave
>>98455170Paper thin references are about as good as it can really get when all you're getting are reskins. If there has been something unique in the precon then there could have been room for exploration.
>>98455727If you like that check this one out
>>98455728>but enough about you being a fan of miss universe, truly the manliest show of all time
>>98454537>hey guys I have a crazy idea: what if instead of limiting our profit margins with artificial scarcity that benefits absolutely no one but predatory scalpers, we actually just create as much product as our customer base is demanding and we sell it to them?Took them this long to figure it out. Some real fucking geniuses over there at WotC.
>>98455727Landfall wins lol
>>98455772>he doesn't watch pretty girls in pretty dresses and swimsuitsGAAAAAAY
>>98455727>>98455769Man, I need to rebuild my Yosei reanimator deck. I did buy a Lifeline recently...
>>98455791I need to steal this for my snake deck.
>>98455727That's a neat one.Last combo I hit was Lightning Army of One and Genji Glove to deal 3+6+12+24 damage to the last guy.He survived, so I hit him with a 48 damage Lightning Helix.
>>98455819you did put yosei as commander right? because he's a brick as a normal draw w/o the combo
If you don't win 90% of your games while running a comboslop deck you REALLY suck at the game. Combo is baby mode.
>>98455806>>he doesn't watch pretty girls in pretty dresses and swimsuitsMy boyfriend and I do this
>>98455836Yes of course. Yosei at the helm, sac outlets, reanimate spells and a couple cheeky combos ;^)
>>98454541This is a huge upgrade over its existing art and is an underrated card in my eyes (because I only see it on token decks when it should be in every deck).
>>98455840We'll inform all of CEDH that they are baby mode. Joe Nobody on 4chan said so.
>>98453907Bear in mind, I only got pic rel for collection purposes. The moment Rof ever becomes a GC/unbanned, I will remind people why he was banned in the first place, first hand.
>>98455877>in every deck including multicolordouble pips that you have to keep available every time is a bigger ask than you think
>>98455894there's no reason to run rofellos competitively when kinnan exists, never mind that he will never be unbanned because wotc can't profit from doing so, RL and all that (wotc has never unbanned any RL cards in any format)
miku
>>98455920Oh so youre like retarded retarded that's okay
>>98455963oh wow anon vewy scawy...
>>98455920Sure there is. To run him IN kinnan
>>98455975cedh kinnan only runs 3 forests>...but b2!kinnan already gets killed on sight there how will rofellos do better?
Thats the gayest thing Ive ever seen and there was a cartoon tranny right next to it.Tell me its not true.
>>98455969You know theres more than one way to go infinite right?In every color combination?And elves that go +1 on mana are so easily abused?Boy youre like really retarded aint ya
>>98456033this just boils down to>23 land>7 draw>7 removal>7 rampin 60 card land and having played 60 card competitive before i would never put every deck in this heuristic especially given the high avg cmc of the avg bracket 2 deck
>>98456060>yeah for my elfball deck i'm going to rely on a commander that cares about forests even though my mana generation has always been through creatures and gaea's cradle!amazing take from /edhg/
Everyone but me in this community is a troon
>>98455769The tokens exile so they don't trigger. You need a sac outlet.
>>98456098only trannies say troon
>>98456091Just say you cant win with 3 forests and a roffellos it's okay retard, youre cards with lots of text are just as good too
>>98455836>he's a brick as a normal draw w/o the comboNot at all. He really is like a fog sitting there most of the time unless they exile him.>>98455894Wish I never sold my foil Rofellos for $80 back in the day. Would be worth well over $500 now. Beautiful card, anon.They will unban him and then put him as a made token by some new card they will be pushing to sell a set after the rest of the power of 9 get their iterations. We are almost halfway there!
>>98456110>3 forests and a rofellos>ok what's the winning line bro that will break cedh?>no... i won't elaborate...lmao
got a couple cards in japanese. whats the etiquette about that? just buy them again in english?
>>98455885cEDH is just lines. AI could unironically play a cEDH deck for you right now. It is absolutely baby mode.
>>98456033That's a good template, but once you get good at making decks and have a nice collection, you end up playing cards that hit mutliple categories AND your theme. Tutors and fetch lands are easy ways to hit two categories or more at once with one card. The best decks utilize this a lot to knock the land count down a bit while upping the others, especially the theme.
>>98456129Just play them? This isn't yugioh.
>>98456129Just tell people what they are, and be ready to pull it up on your phone if someone doesn't believe it is what it is.
>>98456129japanese cards drastically went down in value the moment the community shifted from sweats that knew what the card is based on art and meta alone to casual retards that have difficulty remembering the various alt arts out there much less remembering what else is on the board
They are going to have that printer shitting out mikus until 2030 arent they?
Rofellos wasn't even top 5 cEDH decks in 2011 (Zur and Arcum got to stay legal because of Sheldon blue bias btw) on what planet did he get better in the last 15 years?
>>98456127Retard anon please just go home, Rofellos goes infinite with a wet bologna sandwhich its that easy
>>98456143please understand some anon has a foil rofellos so he HAS to be sitting on the next pillar of cedh
>>98456144>Unsearchable 1-of in monoG
>>98456144>all that just to run worse kinnan + basalt
>rofellos goes infinite easilyOk but what are you really doing with that mana in mono freaking Green?
>>98455727All in the precon too.
>>98456153You obviously make more mana with that mana.Its green.
>>98456144>well my commander now has +100000/+100000>okay I block with my 0/1
>>98456149Youre literally retarded.I dont know what crawled in your ass and died that just because Kinan exists Rofellos is invalidated at any level?Can you not comprehend anything not spoonfed to you you mental fucking disabled simic fat pedohile?
>>98456165man going from>i will remind them why rofellos is banned!!into>ok fine kinnan is miles better but don't sleep on rofellos!sure is the biggest wet fart of the thread
>my 2 card 5 mana infinite is better than your 2 card 5 mana infiniteWhat the fuck is even the argument?
>>98456103They go to the graveyard as a part of the legend rule firsthttps://media.wizards.com/2026/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020260807.pdf
Reminder that Theros Beyond Death ruined the format and it hasn't recovered since.
you play rofllos because he has rofl in his name and thats funnythere I fixed your pointless argument, now brush your teeth and go to bed
>>98456173Can you not read retard?> dont know what crawled in your ass and died that just because Kinan exists Rofellos is invalidated at any level?Wheres my concession faggot?
>>98456143Rofellos was banned as commander back in 2008 or before, I believe. He didn't get banned until they did away with banned as commander and he then got the axe in the 99. Completely unfair.Bring him back and if you play him as your commander then people know what they are getting into, just like if you play one of the dozen other broken commanders that are not banned.
>>98456188you're the only one here gassing up your foil rofellos buddy there's no hidden tech to be gleaned in such a telegraphed creature we all know what it does
>>98456179You cheeky bastard.
See all the fighting this is causing us? FREE HIM NOW, FUCKERS!
>>98456206Rofellos is legal in Brawl on Arena. That elf nigger can stay banned in real commander.
>>98456184Reminder despite some of your guy's retarded opinions I still love all you bros in here except for the poltard
>>98456206It was actually the opposite for some inexplicable reason. He was banned in the 99.
>complains every day about UB in mtg>wotc releases UW full of references and mtg fan favorites>still complainswtf does this guy even want
>>98456225To complain that the game isn't how he remembers it from 2011. (Note: This is different from how the game actually was in 2011).
>>98456225Stop being intentionally retarded
>>98456225>content creator who relies on interactions from outrage videos posts content designed to cause outrage
>>98456225>finally get some REAL magic cards>it's an extremely limited print run so everything is going to be priced to the moon>meanwhile the hobbit will get a trillion booster boxes printed
>>98456211Literally not even that anon I just wanted to shout out Wirewood Symbiote aka the elf abuse card but you just had to keep fucking going off about kinnan in your shitty cedh deck to comprehend OTHER 2 mana creature can go infinite just as easily!But you JUST had to keep claiming fucking ignorance to ever fucking card that go infinite with an elf that just keeps making more manaYOURE RETARDED SEEK HELP
>>98456242>>it's an extremely limited print run so everything is going to be priced to the moonKeep saying this. It will make it funnier when we laugh at you for being wrong.
>>98456249He's right though?
>>98456242>UW is great wotc you should use it more!>ok then if it's so great then should be able to charge a premium for it right?>no not like that!
>>98456242The vast majority of them fucking suck as commanders and there's a handful of ones that might see play in the 99. If that's what "real" Magic cards are now I'm glad UB is the future.
>>98455104The Hermit does not have a lobster in its art.Moon also has wolves/coyotes which are often associated with the moon and transformation.
>>98456255Holy shit imagine being a bootlicker for fucking WIZARDS OF THE COAST of all companies.
>>98456185Check out this high level Rofellos combo.
>>98456245>go infinite just as easily!it's not going to break cedh brother they've done no ban cedh a long time ago the meta there is tinker + bolas's citadel
>>98456221
>>98456267lol have my updoot
>>98455727Why did this cause two players to leave? If you don't have a way of cloning Yosei you are only locking down one player a turn cycle.
>>98456033> 38 landsStopped reading, opinion discarded
>Roffello is actually a real bad card that doesn't deserve to be banned, so they should unban him>While I agree, why do you want him unbanned after all this time if he's actually weak?>....>.....>,,,,,,,,,>JUST UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF!
>>98456280>rofellos is fine he should be unbanned/GC>but he won't be because he's reserved listnot that complicated>thanks sheldon!
>>98456267Ok boomer
>>98456242This is their new business model.>release a great set with a bunch of new cool cards that OGs have been wanting forever>limit the supply to basically non-existent for a year>demand and prices then through the roof for years>slowly reprint the most expensive cards from the sent sprinkled into shitting new sets to help build hype and sell said new shitty sets>repeat
>>98456242The hobbit is real magic anon
>>98456129If it's a common cards like sol ring you can probably just say "hey this is X" and nobody will give a fuck
>>98456287This isn't a new business model. They've been doing shitty slow trickle reprints of cards people actually want for decades now.and in some cases just refusing to reprint cards outright.
>>98456276I was locking down one and then the other to the point where any creature they played would just die to Sheoldred, so they had no creatures up and I was hitting each 25 every other turn. They just couldn't top deck anything to stop it before lethal and they were working together. Both had red and burn spells so if one drew that, and wasn't tapped by Yosei they could have got me. I was down to 13 health.
>>98456269I SAID IT'S EASY!I DIDNT SAY IT WAS GODS GIFT TO FUCKING CEDH YOU JUST CANT SHUTUP ABOUT YOUR FAT SUCKING SIMIC KID YOU GODDAMN PEDOPHILE
>>98456033>40 land>20 card draw>15 removal>0 Ramp>25 etc strategyYou only need ramp if your commander is 4+ cmc, at which point you've already lost.
I'd glad the elf will never be banned, simply because it gives a frog poster what he deserves: Fucking nothing.
>>98456163NTA, but if you're playing that card for the buff, you're retarded.
>>98456255Who ever said the second point? Who ever made the argument that UW should be more scarce than UB product?
>>98456242Wizard's is fucking retarded.
>>98456345but you already have UW:; EoE? SoS?>no i dont want that nu shit i want the classics like azarkon!They only appeal to 40+ year olds which ofc would have more money so why wouldnt wotc charge a premium for them?
>>98456278What, like it's too few, or too many?
>>98456364Your land count is always dependent on your avg cmc
>>98456261>The Hermit does not have a lobster in its art.Yeah? The Moon does. I imagine you meant that the Hermit doesn't have a hermit crab in the picture?You aren't wrong, they'll change thespecies of the figures to fit the theme (it looks like they will all be animal people), but there's no human figure in the Moon, and it would make sense to have some cards be incuded in Homer's tribal synergy. Also, a hermit crab fits the theme of the Hermit for... obvious reasons, a homarid would also fit the Moon. Homarids don't look like regular lobsters after allAt least this is my speculation
>>98456143>on what planet did he get better in the last 15 years?I dunno boss maybe green does scarier things with big mana than it used to 15 years ago? Has extreme mana acceleration ever really aged badly?
>mystery boosters will be SO HECKIN' SCARCE BRO>Mystery boosters 2 are literally rotting.>Well, duh, they didn't have new cards!>No, they were just another chance at a lot of powerful staples though, and no one bought them.>The terrible candle commander will be at surge foil or serialized prices bro!
>>98456394Nice b2 deck you got there
>>98456403Nobody bought them because of the awful border and set symbol
>>98456403Nobody wants reprints of mid-price cards in ugly future or white borders.
>>98456394Wait, Fallout has dinosaurs now? I thought it just had those gay mutated iguanas furries are obsessed with.
>>98456403Whats "surge foil?"
>>98456425the starship enterprise set symbol is from outlaws of thunderjunction: the vault
I fucking love MB2. Anytime I crack a white-border from it I immediately replace it in my deck's lineup because it pisses people off.
>>98456317Sheldon's ghost came back to the thread just to insist Rofellos is too strong for cEDH and have a meltie over it. Don't worry Sheldon, Rhystic is safe and blue is still the best color in the format.
>>98456443
>>98456403>Powerful staples>Look inside>Middling shit reprinted in worst frame/border everYeah bro Stifle's really a powerful staple that's why it's only played in one deck for a format that didn't exist until over a year later.
>>98456419Rofellostrannies are such little gaslighters. If it wasn't strong you wouldn't want it. Kill yourself.
>wanting rofellos unbannedJust go play Arena
>>98456454>Displacer Kitten>Coffers>Slopper's Oracle>SDT>5 million dollar alt-art urza>Pact of Negation >Wasteland>Bolas's Citadeljust to name a few, all lovely reprints
>>98456394Is your card meant to be an example of something scary monoG can do? Because that's not a particularly impressive card in a competitive setting even before you compare it to options like Hullbreaker Horror.
>>98456433Blimey.
>>98456485Famous green card Hullbreaker Horror
>>98456480The fact Top was the #1 reprint of the set, and it was still given the hideous future sight frame, tells me everything about how low EV it is. The fact that 5 out of 10 of the pack's top money cards are acorn-stamped indicates people would rather pull a literally illegal card than most of the "valuable staples".
>>98456495Yeah that's exactly why it's not scary. Because instead of Hullbreaker Horror I would be looking at a modestly resilient draw engine.
>>98456480If people want those cards they'd rather buy versions without the ugly borders.
>powerful old cards are rotting because white border>Shit new cards with black borders will be incredibly expensive and be off shelves instantly.Kekerio
>>98456508Anon this may shock you but not every big mana deck is literally kinnan.
The only cards worth running as white border are dual land proxies so you can instantly spot them when searching off a fetch land.
>>98456504What's this hate for the Future Sight frame, Future Sight frame is great
I just bought the FFI scene box at my LGS and now I'm going to make a Party Deck with The Destined Warrior (I don't own the Baldurs Gate precon). What's some fun spice I could add to the deck?
>>98456516We're talking about cEDH not whatever cards annoy your casual tables.
>>98456504>The fact that 5 out of 10 of the pack's top money cards are acorn-stampedPulled that right out of your ass, didn't you.
Love this guy like you wouldn't believe.Fun as a commander, a nice tool in the 99. Almost always ends up finding his way into my green lists.
>>98456531No I actually checked. Top is less valuable than two Arena cards that are acorn-stamped.
>>98456530Bans and unbans do not exclusively revolve around cEDH.
>>98456538Then why even talk when you could be arguing about Burgeoning, which is far more ubiquitous than Rofellos?
>>98456537Don't know what you did wrong there. Not what I got sorting by USD or even Euro
>>98456516God I hate eldr*zi
>>98456547
>>98456575Once again anon.
>>98456581https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Amb2+cheapest%3Ausd&order=usd&as=grid&unique=cards
they could reprint battles and ftech lands instead of that crap
>>98456541Because it's disingenuous to pretend cEDH is why the card is banned. Ignoring that it's a RL card that replaces most casual mono green edh commanders the second it's unbanned is ignoring why it's gone in the first place.
>>98456588They could reprint Black Lotus but they're cowards.
>>98456583>extra nonsense instead of just what is the most expensive to cheapest in descending order.
>>98456591But then your argument falls apart.>This card is banned because it would damage casual play>Despite being less available and ubiquitous than another legal land ramp optionIf your argument is that it's stronger than most monoG commanders, Kraum and Tymna are stronger commanders for 99% of decks than what people are actually running in that slot. Maybe Thrasios + Tymna if you really want green. So that argument also falls apart because the only time a slop commander pushing out everything else was a problem was with Golos. Rofellos is much more limited in scope.I'm not exactly pining for Rofellos to come back, but it's pretty clear he only got the axe in the first place because Sheldon had a very large anti-green bias.
>>98456526Behold, the exact thing I did.Here's to you Jack Garland, Fuck Chaos
>>98456583https://scryfall.com/sets/mb2?q=set%3Amb2&as=grid&order=usd&dir=
>>98456596>>98456622The "extra nonsense" is what identifies if the cards were actually valuable as reprints.
>Marvel Super Heroes>best selling set of all time>more legendaries than any other set by far>nobody brewing commander decks with themWhy is this?
>>98456626I don't know anything about extra nonsense, I just know that my link shows cards that yours doesn't. Urza being the most expensive card in the set, rather than Oracle as yours shows.
>>98456640>best sell set of all timelollmao even
>>98456537>>98456547>>98456575>>98456581Hoy shit just check tcgplayer like a normal person
>>98456644Your link also shows Command Tower as one of the most valuable cards in the set and I don't think a single person on the planet would say this card has a shortage of printings.
>>98453602this goes infinite with a ham sandwich
>>98456661An infinite mana combo is not a ham sandwich.
>>98456613The availability is the whole problem, anon. Burgeoning is cheaper than Rofellos even while the latter is banned and the former is a ubiquitous card with only a few printings. Unbanning Rofellos cannot be capitalized on financially by wotc and adds nothing but a casual annoyance as you put it to the format. If it weren't on the RL it would be off the banlist by now but you keep conveniently ignoring/misunderstanding that part. Why create a random rat race in casual over a faggot elf if you aren't going to profit off of it and piss off players who hate the card? What do you think happens to his 50 dollar price tag if the ban leash comes off? >because Sheldon had a very large anti-green bias.On this we agree
>>98456667Oh, if the argument is on "if" he will come back, then I agree it's very unlikely.
>>98453668It's a learned aversion. They're adorable and harmless. (american roaches are kinda ugly though)
>print to demand for miku deck>hour of devastation in itThis shits gonna be so cheap, isn't it.
>>98456648This just corroborates>>98456622>>98456640
I pulled this guy today, how should i build him?
>>98456536Same. Great mana ramp/overrun effect on a tutorable stick. Sick board wipe deterrent too. He's full of toxic masculinity, and I love it.
>>98456536>Settle the wreckage>get banned for doing MLD
>>98456773Your fault for not having enough basics.
>>98456455>>98456458
>>98456833New.
>>98453397What is some good budget anti counter spell tech in orzhov for my liesa deck. My friend is building eluge and I usually end up sitting next in line from him so whenever he plays blue I eat all the counter spells. in 60card decks I just spam duress type cards at the counter spell player but from my understanding that doesn't work well in commander. And grand abolisher is $$$$
>>98453602what other mono blue turkish cards are there
>>98456242just proxy. Like I want to build the new Thomil I'm just going to proxy him unless he ends up cheap and it will make no difference and if I like it enough I'll order some nice chinese proxy with literally no difference>>98456033it's the goytuber template immediately discard it except for maybe the removal. Basically if you actually know what your deck tries to do and it can consistently goldfish to knocking out your opponent without top decking or just doing nothing you don't need more ramp/draw. I made a tifa deck where the strategy was kill them before i run out of cards and had barely any card draw and the removal I swapped out for hexproof spells and went all in on the T3kill. My friends banned it
My Pod limits how often I can play this. They say it’s too “unfun”, thoughts?
>>98457090definitely a faggoty staple pile but are they too retarded to coordinate card types or do they just all bin whatever without question?
>>98457090Looks like a bracket 4 slop pile to me. Your friends are right to complain.
>>98457090When people say B4 is a containment bracket, this is the sort of deck they're talking about.
>>98457090>>98457114>>98457191>>98457267This is true. Cards are also not in English and hard to tell what they are from across the table.
>>98456649But that printing is evidently valued.
I've gotten to the conclusion that i really shouldn't play anything competitive with my friends because if the game has a way to be the sole winner, i basically can only have fun if i'm that person
>>98457450I feel really sorry for you, anon, that's awful. I'm glad you're self aware enough to recognise it, though. Godspeed.
>>98457450Lmao what's it like having the brain of a 4 year old?
>>98457090>No BreachYou're not tryharding hard enough.
>>98457450This but unironically. My LGS only does EDH for MtG and I cbf meeting new people at the next closest shop to play a 60 card format. There are usually a couple of casual cEDH pods going but the guys that play are the stereotypical cEDH players who spend half their time engaging in cynical table talk rather than just playing the game.
>>98457792Wait, my bad its right on top of the furthermost pile but in moonrunes.
>>98457804Sucks to suck. At my LGS most pods are bracket 2 and I play with a qt FtM I intend to feminize
