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Previous: >>98453397

Balalalla tongue edition

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Gay Bolas
https://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>tq
What's something stupid you wish they brought back?
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>wotc doing print to demand for Miku slop
>will be printed in to oblivion and be extremely cheap because it has high value cards and anime gooners liking the art
>gonna have to play against weeb tourists with their pre-made Miku deck where every fucking creature is renamed to "Miku" so every time they cast a fucking Miku I have to ask what that Miku actually is in the game
>this on top of all the obese pronoun pin final fantasy tourists that linger around my shop
I hope mtg dies.
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>>98456833
>What's something stupid you wish they brought back?
Hi it's me the Radiation guy just posting yet again that we need more fucking support and Wizards dropped the FUCKING ball not including it in EoE, the literal fucking space set
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>>98456862
Sell your collection and leave then.
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>>98456865
I've already liquidated the bulk of my non RL stuff.
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>>98456876
Then sell the rest and leave instead of just being a whiny faggot.
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>>98456886
Nah I dont think I will Lil Zoom
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>>98456862
People could already do this though and miku isnt even the most popular voice bank among that crowd
do you not have any actual friends to play with?
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>>98456890
No need to project weeb
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>>98456862
>every fucking creature is renamed to "Miku" so every time they cast a fucking Miku I have to ask what that Miku actually is in the game
Pretty sure only like 5 cards in the deck are like this
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>>98456895
>it's only 5 identically named creatures, chud
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>>98456897
>>98456893
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>>98456895
I've never seen a person play a card with a different name and not actually say what the name actually is.
No one says "I'm making Miku, child of song" they just say child of alara
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>>98456900
Yeah they're both correct, weebslop should burn
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>>98456833
>TQ
I want more backgrounds and background commander options.
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>TQ
White people and attractive women
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>>98456862
Well you're in luck anon because, keep a secret? TROSTANI FUCKING SUCKS AS A COMMANDER
>t. Selvala Lifegain player
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>>98456959
I know, I can't wait to dunk on weebcels
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>>98456833
What is some good budget anti counter spell tech in orzhov for my liesa deck. My friend is building eluge and I usually end up sitting next in line from him so whenever he plays blue I eat all the counter spells. in 60card decks I just spam duress type cards at the counter spell player but from my understanding that doesn't work well in commander. And grand abolisher is $$$$
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>>98456888
>Man I hope this game dies
>Does not contribute to killing it
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1. How do we feel about random? Specifically in this situation. Does the risk of discarding a reanimation spell outweigh the possibility of getting a reanimation target in the graveyard?

2. Is something like Anvil of Bogardan preferable even at the cost of helping my opponents? I figure symmetry is easily broken by filling my GY with fatties + getting payoffs for the triggers...
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>>98456988
Surely you can think of a better way to bin a reanimation target.
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>>98456833
>What's something stupid you wish they brought back?
I wish they'd bring back weird creature types like now everything has to just be the same normal set of types so that it's easier to make tribal slop. Like why couldn't mystery booster uncle istvan have type uncle as a one off as a call back
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>>98456862
>gooner art
nigga, the Miku art is the most safe shit imaginable. When the fuck was the last time MTG had anything close to a sexy anime girl on a card?
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>>98456988
I like it better if I'm running a commander that can do the reanimation desu. In my chainer nightmare adept deck i ran a bunch of symmetrical discard even hand nukes like sire of insanity because my commander can just bring back stuff including reanimation spell on a guy cards.

But I don't really like random discard type stuff unless I can consistently make it work for me like if I'm a discard deck or something. Like pit could discard your reanimate as easily as your fatty or maybye the removal spell u need to hold onto
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>>98456997
Yeah, but cards like Bottomless Pit have an added advantage that they trigger several times per round, activating Tinybones' triggers for example. Obviously Necrogen Mists is better but I need alternatives in case one gets exiled or something.
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>>98457005
anime is for gooner neets and you know it
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>>98457020
Anime is just "cartoons Japan". It's made for all ages, retard faggot.
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>>98457005
All magic cards should look like this
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>>98457026
you goon to childrens cartoons? that's whack
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>>98457016
If your deck is Tinybones it's not Reanimator.
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>>98457031
>>98457005
Fuckinf hate coomers
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This has become my favorite deck. So I am going to make FF8 themed proxies of cards and ff8 themed lands for it. Before I go on a search, anyone know if there is a resource with ff8 official art and such?
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>>98457068
The Final Fantasy set was really good and I've made like 3 commanders with a 4th in mind.
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>>98457031
>>98457005
fucking love coomers
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anon...you're not...*deckless*, are you?
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>>98457005
nobody actually plays this game
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>Dude keeps asking me to review his decks
>Feedback is always the same, add more card draw
>He keeps refusing to listen
>Got to the point where I told him I will not look at any of his decks until they have 12+ sources of card advantage
>He starts trying to count cantrips and hand-neutral looting effects
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98457068
creative uncut often has some good stuff. Otherwise you might be able to find a pinterest board
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>TQ
I'm a sucker for alt win conditions and I'd enjoy more angelic miracle cards again
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>>98457088
holy shit nigga at least sleeve it before posting
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Repostan
My POD limits how often I play this, say it's too "unfair" even though they all proxy anything outside of power 9. Thoughts?
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>>98457088
I am indeed deckless.
1 week midlife crisis fancy with this horrible game I played twice as a teen.
Have nobody to play with and cant decide on a deck anyways.
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>look at Miku deck
>it's mediocre as fuck because only a fraction of the cards have new art
On one hand, it's theoretically a good value due to the reprints of high value cards. On the other hand, I'd imagine it will take A LOT of work to get the deck up to a proper B3/4 standing. Anyone got experience with playing Trostani as a commander?
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>didn't even know there was a felix the cat secret lair, I used to love that bastard as a kid
>All the cards suck
Damn it.
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It isn't boring that all decks on bracket 3+ if they're control they use the same cards to win?
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>>98456833
>I le defaced le OP with links to my furry porn commissions again xDDDDD
Fake thread, not /tg/, shan't use.
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>>98457110
>a friend asks me to help him build a new deck
>fairly budget but make sure he's got a good curve, lots of card advantage, an adequate amount of lands and interaction, etc
>a year passes, he's complaining the deck isn't very good
>look inside
>he removed at least 4 lands and almost all the card advantage for random 5+ mana spells, most of which don't even relate to his gameplan
I stopped helping him build decks after that.
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>>98457289
The problem is the bracket system sucks nuts.
>B1 = doesn't exist
>B2 = precons only
>B3 = literally everything
>B4 = CEDH autism containment zone
>B5 = CEDH autism
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>>98456862
>Man this UB naming shit sucks! So many characters with the same name! It's too confusing we need to go back to just universes within magic! Anyways I play Liliana variant #20
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>>98457289
I can see control finishers homogenizing around Thoracle in B4-5 but what are you referring to for B3?
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>>98457303
B2 is not precons. Its not gamechangers and late game combos. There are Precons that are bracket 3 due to their fast combos.

Maybe you'd think the bracket system wasn't bad if you actually understood what it was.
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>>98457219
It's just a lifegain commander where you make a big token and copy it over and over.
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>>98457311
>inb4 DUDE THAT ONE PRECON HAD CYC RIFT or DUDE THE MIKU DECK HAS VORINCLEX
As a rule lf thumb, precons are B2. There are exceptions, but the general rule is they're B2.
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>>98457303
Is dis bitch possibly one of the strongest bracket 2 decks? My deck isn't bracket 2, but I got a turn 5 win without using any gamechangers.

>t1 forest, Sol Ring + Lightning Greaves
>t2 Azusa out, drop down three more forests
>t3 2 more forests, cast Vorinclex
>t4 Genesis Wave x=11
>get out Avenger of Zedikar and Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
>t5, dump 30 mana into Kamahl for +18/+18
>win while everyone else's mana is basically frozen since turn three thanks to Vorinclex
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>>98457313
I guess I'm just wondering what direction to take it to upgrade it to a B3 7/10 deck. Generic green shit like Craterhoof and a gorillion ramp I guess?
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>>98457321
>Is dis bitch possibly one of the strongest bracket 2 decks?
>green
Yes
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>>98457322
>Generic
That's the word. Just a generic deck. You'll run Mimic Vat, Phyrexian Rebirth, some strong myriad creatures. Your life total should be so high the only way you die is commander damage, combo, or a massive attack. Your wincon is Halo Foutian, Second Sun, aetherflux, or combat damage. Do not focus on other BAD populate cards, your commander is all the populate you need really.
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>>98457318
I think the problem is that at this point the average precon is better than the average homebrew deck simply because the precon draws cards and doesn't brick on random 5+ mana bombs.
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>>98457321
>Vorinclex
Yeah no fucking shit. This fucker is stupid.
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>>98457318
I have seen two precons and they were both b3
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>>98457303
nah a lot of my homebrew lists end up bracket 2ish because I heavily favor using cards I already have and pet cards even tho that usually makes the deck less focused or whatever perhaps even worse than some precons now

>>98457349
also this precons mog the average I grabbed everything that looked cool on edhrec deck

>>98457349
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>>98457321
>I got a christmas hand, perfect draw, for my deck then a perfect hit of my wave
>This is SO powerful bros.
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roach niggas lmfao
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>>98456833
God bless you OP
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>>98457371
Believe it or not this is how most people actually evaluate decks and cards.
>Dude if I have all the setup in the world it will be so epic
>Card draw? Interaction? Why would I need that?
>wtf why did the simic player win again?
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>>98457380
i play almost exclusively with my friends, we play a lot of very grindy games with lots of interaction
people at the shop do *not*, and are usually not ready for their guys to get killed off
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>>98457396
That's my experience too. Just add every 1/10 games there's a psycho trying to play stax, discard, or both (they lose because they still had no card draw and got all their stax pieces removed).
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https://archidekt.com/decks/24967725/actually_legal_25k_cards_deck_that_can_win_the_game
Whtz bros, you are a FUCKING COWARD if you don't build this.
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>>98457434
>Lands
>10k
Laughed so hard I woke my wife up
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>>98457321
>vorinclex
>mld in b2
Do not pass go
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>>98457434
>Decided to do some math, I measured 100 single sleeved card at about 2.5 inches so with that measurement this deck would be roughly 52 feet tall give or take a foot or so
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>>98456862
final fantasy is great. The big 3 IPs based of Tolkien are D&D, FF and MTG.

other stuff makes sense though what the fuck is MIKU anyway I just know it from some Korg tech demo, but get that straight
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>>98457439
people do not use brackets in RL

>>98456911
just won a game last night with this goofy ah squirrel. if you had to classify it its a bracket 2 (no cards from the "game changer" list).

played a few 3 player games with randos last night and they both were in their 30s with good decks, wide range of older and newer cards and had no idea really what the brackets were supposed to mean or kept up with any of the bullshit with them

which makes sense because they're not official rules and are "beta testing". usually beta testers like for iOS and so on are a very small subset of total users who are extreme.

in other words people playing commander on MTGO or on paper nearly every day, traveling for play regularly, etc – thats who the beta testing phase of "brackets" is for.

>yes blood moon is fair in a mono red mid power Knuckle the Echidna deck
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Ngl the hobbit set looks mid.
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>>98457499
Looks to have a lot more playable cards than marble super flop set.
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>>98457506
Tolkien fans are worse than Harry Potter fans I swear
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>>98457490
>people do not use brackets in RL
lol what a weird thing to say
>muh blood moon
ah i see that's why, it's always the mldtards
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>>98457083
Guys, he said a previous comment, but inverted it.
Please give all the upvotes for this subversive comedy.
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>>98457524
You don't have to be a fan of X series to evaluate cards in a set.
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>>98457526
i fucking wish the only disgusting thing people did here was to goon to cartoons
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>>98457490
My gay friend I recently introduced this game to acts like the bracket system is literally the rules and not an optional way to give a general idea of how powerful your deck is. He talks about game changers in a hushed breath like they're the limited cards in Yu-Gi-Oh, pretending every last one of them are all overpowered and unfair to play against. He refuses to take anything I say about this game's history seriously because it disagrees with the modern shit he learned about it off YouTube, refuses to even use the word Tribal. He was always a corporate bootlicking kind of assmuncher but seeing him suddenly act like this about a game I've played for more than half my life has been real eye opening.
>>
7490
Bait used to be believable.
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>>98457549
>i mean, can't you stop adding demonic tutor to every single b2 you build? you fucking whore
>t. your gay friend
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>>98457549
My friend acts like this too. The bracket system needs to be updated and the GC list probably needs 30 more cards to really force people to make lower power.
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>>98457574
> the GC list probably needs 30 more cards
no johnny, craterhoof isn't worthy of being put in the GC list
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>>98456988
You run pit to piss off your opponents not to combo
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At this point I'd rather play 4 equal power decks by myself. I hate playing against randoms who use removal too soon. I will drop a blightsteel with intent to kill play 2 but then play one paths it immediately? Bro let the game progress if it isn't coming at you then save your removal. Or I hate people who are like "my deck is totally low power" then drops every free spell imaginable and wins turn 4. The EDH community is full of EDHrec sophisticated. Nobody plays for fun. I hate people.
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>>98457499
No food commanders and almost no food centric cards. Fucking garbage
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>>98457643
>Nobody plays for fun
nobody can read your mind and know what you mean by 'fun', much less immediately want to kowtow to it, people play to win because winning is a lot easier to determine than whatever (You) have in your head
>i hate people
no you just don't want to talk and stand up for yourself, probably due to lack of spine
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98457490
The story you're ripping this "Blood Moon in Knuckles" LARP off of used Amy you useless nigger.
Imagine being such a useless faggot you can't even make your own original bait.

Jannies need to get rid of your faggot ass.
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Holy shit Omo is fun.
>randomly have four locuses, slam cloudpost and have a gazillion mana next turn
>finale of devastation into summon leviathan to bounce the board and swing for lethal

She’s up there with Yeva for me
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>>98457565
Yeah, the guy bitches and moans over stuff exactly like this, even when the tutors are on flavor like Vampiric Tutor in Edgar Markov or meant to barely hold a jank ass deck like Demonic Tutor in my 3 Sliver Sliver Hivelord deck. Says stuff like my deck is auto bracket 5 or whatever just for running both Dramatic Reversal and Isochron Scepter when that shit needs at least two other cards to actually combo, in a deck with zero tutors I might add. Then a week later he came in with Leveler and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries to "compete" with me and acts shocked when he just outright wins with it multiple times and says it's ok because there's a chance we could have had interaction for Jace. It feels like I'm just fighting an uphill battle with an amalgamation of the worst parts of Magic's online community at times against this libtard.
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>>98457668
This, I'm so mad. We finally got what I thought was gonna be a fantastic "spam food tokens" commander in the MBC set but it's incredibly gimped by being monogreen. Green/white or green/black would've solved everything
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>>98457702
>triggers once each turn
I WANT TO MURDER AND RAPE WHOEVER THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD THING.
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>>98457303
At my LGS, precons tend to get threat-assessed off the table, since strong players will often go into bracket 2 to run gimmick decks that they know won't stack up against a late-game precon since those tend to be boring value engines that are only bracket 2 because they take so long to get started
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>>98457706
Same, brother. Same
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>>98457699
>barely hold a jank ass deck like Demonic Tutor in my 3 Sliver Sliver Hivelord deck
is it really jank if you need demonic tutor though?
you miss the point of GCs they are not just there power-wise they're also not supposed to be your crutches for every deck you build
btw you taught your fag friend that isochron infinites was fine so he just upped the ante with a jank version of dcon thoracle, not his fault his seems to be more consistent (and what's inconsistent enough anyways? you'd be surprised that lack of tutors can be made up for with modularity/redundant pieces)
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>>98457668
Does the Bilbo not count? Or did you want something else in the food vein?
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>>98457728
Yeah people exactly like you, fuck you. Stop treating game changers like a four letter word you fucking asshole it's people like you that made him play like this. And nobody at my table played anything remotely combo centric like Thassa until him, that's just what it developed into. Unlimited damage for four specific cards that you have multiple rounds to turn off is not the same thing and you know it. I didn't teach him to play like that, he started this with Jace and Mathemagics. Not even going to comment on that retarded ass definition of jank of yours. I don't even have tutors in literally all my decks, that's just what he decides to complain about and hyperfixate on because he decided to listen to you bracket people instead of me.
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>>98457757
>uh oh he mad he got called out for using GCs in every single deck
lol
>Unlimited damage for four specific cards that you have multiple rounds to turn off is not the same thing and you know it.
>but what about unlimited damage for three specific cards that you have two rounds to turn off? is that fair?
>but what about unlimited damage for two specific cards that you have one round to turn off? is that fair?
see how this can be twisted? where do you draw the line?
your fatal flaw is that not only are you a slopper for busted cards even in b2 (exactly how that fool sheldon thought, that people would naturally have self-restraint) you also don't want to negotiate on anything, i'm tempted to just tell you how to use brackets right but it seems your fag libtard (redundant i know) has just mindbroken you
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>>98457303
It's best not to rile up the bracket defenders. They're retards
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>>98457818
but enough about 'my deck is a 7'
or god forbid rule zero, whose retarded advocates are the reason sundering titan isn't unbanned yet
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>what retard made a new thread at 360 and then only posted the link 1 time instead of 3?
>gay bolas faggot
Of fucking course. Didn't feel like spamming the last thread to image limit this time huh?
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>>98457068
Ultimania FFVIII should have some substantial amount of concept art in it
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>>98457804
Sucks to suck. At my LGS most pods are bracket 2 and I play with a qt FtM I intend to feminize
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>>98457866
the actual sleaziest post I have ever seen on 4chan. congratulations.
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Shame it's an unglued card, she'd be great in my fat tits tribal deck
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>>98457408
Killing the discard player is a moral obligation
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>>98457219
you can aetherflux+divining top+mystic forge+altar to take advantage of populate giving you infinite creatures. Or any other way to get infinite mana to emulate being able to play citadel
Or just dump 120 counters on a ballista
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>>98457088
We posting Azula lists?

https://moxfield.com/decks/4MBEwm4M-EKmTWV75pq7pQ

Sideboard is cards I still need to buy, I cba to clear space for a spread of what I have right now, maybe in the morning.
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>>98457884
the Foglios are oddly good for that.
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>>98457884
>fat tits tribal
now there's a bracket 1 build I can get behind
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>>98457880
Reddit white knight. What if the FtM wants to be feminized? Did you even consider that?
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What are some Blue-White commanders that aren't like... ControlStax
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>>98457961
>What if the FtM wants to be feminized?
>yeah they cut off their breasts and chugged enough testosterone to make themselves irreparably uglier but does that really matter?
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>>98457969
kung-fu dragon
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>>98457866
I'm ftm and I'd let a handsome chuddy feminize me, ngl
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>>98457970
>he doesn't know about FtMs with humiliation and forced feminization kinks
Ohohohohoooooo!
Virgin.
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>>98457981
Based, my 5'1 king. I will be there within the hour.
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>>98457983
>will settle for testosterone-addled mastectomy subjects
god put you in this earth to handle the mentally ill i suppose
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>>98457989
I'm 5'7" actually. If you are shorter than me I'll kick you in the balls and call you a incel
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>>98457991
Settle? No no no. It is a unique and delectable delicacy you can find nowhere else. Forced fem on a bio woman that wants to be a man? Incomparable.
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>>98457994
I'm 6'1 and could hang you upside down by your ankle if you ever stepped to me you'd like it too
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>>98458001
I would. It's almost like I expressed explicit interest in this.
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>>98458007
Are you into diapers like 3/3 Elk?
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>>98458009
No I'm not a furry/pedophile
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>>98457734
Needs to be golgari at minimum, Abzan optimally. Bilbos a fantastic 99 card for a food deck but it's nothing on its own.
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>>98458021
Nothing pedo about it, especially if you're in the diapers. Starting over from scratch since you forgot how to be a girl :3
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