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Tried a quartered color scheme. Went well considering I'm a dogshit painter, and is making me want to make a lance with all unique heraldic color schemes instead of a consistent theme.
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I'm a bit lost when it comes to spotting since I'm a newbie:>a mech can only spot one enemy at a time, but can he spot for only one friendly mech or multiple ones?>what are the benefits of a TAG without special ammo? Just that the spotter doesn't get a +1 modifier to shooting on the same turn as he's spotting? Does the mech it was spotted for ignore the +1 modifier for the spotter shooting too?
>>98456552One spotter can spot one target, and any number of other units can indirectly attack a spotted target.Using TAG for non-special ammo only gives the spotter a break on shooting. It is otherwise identical to normal spotting with all the other normal penalties.
>>98456623Thanks.
Sixth for walking the mean streets of Solarishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0RIBAmhOkw
Were there any Wardens in Clan Jade Falcon? If not, how would you create one?
My beloved.
>>98456755What's your favorite Beemer?
>>98456738Pretty much every Clan had an amount of Wardens or Crusaders, but a Warden clan would be encouraging warden thought and discouraging Crusader and a Crusader clan vice versa. Some Clans had bigger splits, but for something like Jade Falcon they'd be a very small minority who'd be wise to keep their mouth shut. If they didn't they'd be given shit assignments.
>>98456927Good ol' 1G.
>>98456948>>98456755Is the single seat BattleMaster functionally better than the double seat one?
>>98456957Yes. You can use the extra space for the second control system to put in a liquor fridge and seats for some on-demand whores.
>>98456755I wish dedicated gunner and pilot type dual cockpits were still real. Is there some optional rule that lets command consoles do that?
>>98456957In game? Sort of but not really. Just provides a little bit of redundancy.In universe? Hell yeah. Any time you can hand off duties to a second competent person is always a better option. They can pilot the mech while you're using radio/mechcommander interface to organize shit. Or vice versa. Or they can have a sleep while you pilot etc.
>>98456281I see.you assclowns let that faggot cuntrarian anon kill the last thread with offtopic shitposting.When you see thay relentlessly negative, hateful fuck trolling with his 'i hate everything BT' posts you need to ignore the fucker.For fucks sakes people.
>>98456309DO IT. Its fun.I bought four of certain lance packs so I can have four identical lances. And I painted each of the same mech up the same, so that the lance is all painted different. Very /your dudes/.
PSA: Chassis view in Mekbay is cool and you should use itCheck this out, I think this might be my favorite IntroTech pool of mechs so far>3028, Late SuccWar - Renaissance>Available to Inner Sphere faction except Comstar. Includes None and Unique for snowflakes.>Subtype: BattleMek, Quad BattleMek>Rules: Intro, Standard>Banned Equipment: CASE, DHS, ESS, FFA, SRT6, Supercharger, XL (IS) EngineResult: 93 chassis (280 variants)
>>98456957You get to sit in one seat un a cockpit that would have two people cramped into it. Unless you're a midget person, the single seater is far superior.
>>98456309Is that a Berzerker?
>>98457092... Anon, aren't Battlemasters notorious for having huge roomy cockpits in comparison to the average mech? Isn't that part of the reason why they're so popular with the command console upgrade?
>>98457155More room for the beer fridge. I Mean, emergency cooling rations.
>>98457247The thought of a pilot popping a cold one inside a cockpit makes me happy for some reason
>>98457263I know right. That's the real reason it's a command mech. You sit back popping off ppc shots as fast as your BIG GUN can cycle and sipping a cold one in the other hand.
>>98456755I love this big stompy boy.
So the lance is pulling patrol on a garrison duty contract in a rebuilding cycle.LCPL Jones in his stinger is bragging about how fast and nimble and superior his mech is, running rings around the lance on perimeter, ranging ahead, behind, pulling off all sorts of 'sick moves, hombre'.Sergeant Smith in the lance's Battlemaster says 'oh, yeah, watch this, I can do something you never can.'The battlemaster slowly crusies along in a straight line, doing nothing. 15 minutes pass. 30.Jones finally loses patience.'What? What are you going to do? You're just sitting there!'Smugly, the sergeant responds. 'Oh, I Got up, had a shit, shower and a shave and now I am sitting back in my chair with a fresh coffee. Why, what are you doing?'
>>98457074>relentlessly negative, hateful fuck trollingThis is why I come here. Why would I stop someone else from doing it?
>>98457040I should get a large scale Dougram model and kitbash Valasek's Beemer. The 1:72 Max Factory kit is still available, I think.
>>98457456Isn't it just a 2C but with all the fancy stuff downgraded and a literal couch installed where the command couch was supposed to be?
>>98457456Remember to give it a tasteful amount of costume rust.
>>98457074They've only been negative about cgl, they haven't been negative about battletech
>>98457623lolno. they killed the last thread by taking an offhand comment someone made tangentially and turning it into a whole fucking thing, where they could strawman, 'so you are saying' misconstrue (deliberately), or otherwise assfuck the thread dead with irrelevancies and trolling faggotry. An innocuous post like "I like blue, so today I painted some mechs up in BLUE. here's a picture" will be met with gradually increasing shitposts until cuntrarian is replying shit like >blue sucks fuck you reeeeee you're a dumb loser for having blue mechs, waht a stupid colour reeeeee
Remember, there's a common denominator with the man who sees everyone else as contrarians.
>>98457623Those are the same thing
>>98457726thats a false equivelancecontrarians dont really have a point, they are being reactionary for the sake of itpointing out the contrarian attitude is not the same as being a contrarian, its just recognizing that the reactionary attitude is misguided at best
>>98457456As somebody who used to work in a hospital, I always got a sensible chuckle out of Valasek using a Battlemaster, since he's a fat bastard. In the medical profession, "Beemer" is a term for morbidly obese patients, from "BMI".
>>98456281Newfag here. Picked up the beginner box a little while ago just to dip my toe in, enjoyed it, then got the main starter set and have been enjoying that too (and I’ll probably pick up clan invasion and mercs eventually as well).My question is just what are these new “core” rules? Is it an edition change? Should I just wait for it to release or do I need to track down copies of Total Warfare and the Battlemech manual?
>>98457072>Or they can have a sleep while you pilot etc.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvSlkcwTDHQ>>98457040>>98457456
Have you thanked the Chancellor for your freedoms and protections today?
>>98457936You can pick up BMM if you want to get started now. If you're used to 40k throwing the entire game balance out with each new edition, the upcoming ruleset is comparatively a minor errata. The bigger problem is just that the Core Box minis are very Introtech-unfriendly and throw you into the modern ilClan era, that complicates the onboarding more than a bit.
>>98457151Yes
I asked in the wrong thread, but would Prowlers be among the vehicles that had knockoffs made? It's one of the few vees that can have environmental sealing and I'm looking for something that can carry infantry in hostile/no atmosphere environments.
>>98457963I'm guessing it's a fan made 3d print. I can kinda see the MWO Victor's head, the Warhammer's upper arms and an HBS Hatchetman's right hand.
>>98457956I see. Will the new core rules be broadly applicable to succession wars and the other eras or will it focus more on ilKhan specifically?
So anons what are some mechs you like for no other reason than you just like it? Doesn't have to be particularly good.I personally like the Von Rohrs. Yes I know its basically a fat Griffin that can't jump but I just like it. Being a fast Age of War design that runs cool is the best thing going for it even if its armor is light.
>>98457982It covers pretty much every piece of equipment used by more than four Mechs and the rules for them. SuccWars is easy to handle with that and there's something like a dozen record sheets across the entire roster that are incompatible with the new rules. It's entirely about the minis being designs that don't exist in 3025 and there only being one you can reasonably proxy for the era. Since you've already got minis for that, you can just use the Core Box rules when they release.
>>98458004Okay that makes sense. Thank you anon.
>>98457975Yeah Defiance Industries Wargames has some nice mechs.
>>98457996The degree to which a mech is good or not is how closely it follows griffinology. So von rohrs mech is perfectly acceptable.
>>98457996the shadowhawkits never been better than mediocre, and often outright bad, but it looks so coolalways seems like the problem is that they over-invested in the engine and under invested in the gunsbut dougram can do no wrong
>>98458048Shadowhawks problem is that they 'balanced' ballistics fucking abysmally, when in-universe they're supposed to be THE most useful weapon because of their firepower and versatility.In the hardest canon we have, the books, everyone is scared of the shadowhawks autocannon, because it's like the one off the marauder. Really fucking good.But on the table top, the basic ac5 is just utterly anaemic.And to make matters worse, the poor shad never really gets any decent variants. Instead it remains crippled in each incarnation in some fashion.
>>98457996I've always had a thing for fast mediums, Nightsky and post-helm 6 walk speed centurions are fun.
>>98458048It's more that the AC/5 sucks in general and ACs only scale at heavier firepower when heat starts to be such a factor that you start needing 14 crit space and 9 tons to balance the heat of another large laser, at which point an AC/10 makes sense as an alternative.
>>98457074>t. Contrarian anon
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98458103Fuckoff, you retard.
>>98458107Katapult is so cute and silly.
>>98457726Especially when you realise it's the same person calling out supposed "contrarians" who not calls anyone who disagrees who trolls them a "contrarian" but is also only active when the so-called"contrarian" is
>>98456755>>98456948>>98457333
>>98458113>nooooooo stop noticing reee you're acshully cuntrarian! Reeeee!
>>98458068About the only ruleset I've found where autocannons make sense was Solaris because it incorporates rate of fire so by the time a PPC has recharged the AC/5 has already fired two rounds at a target making their damage output on par assuming both AC/5 shots hit.
>>98458116You know there's this really good thing, right. It's called "ignoring posts." And, get this, it's totally *free* to do. All you have to do is not give in to the itch to respond to everything that calls you out as a retard. It's just that simple.I know you can do it, Contrarian anon.
>>98458114>Heat sink coolant resevoir in crotchThe thing can piss coolant on people?
>>98458157Straight from the tap, sweet cheeks
>>98458111
>>98458120yep. autocannons are balanced when they get more shots to go with their weight.
>>98458187see? adorkable. you almost expect it to be wearing a school uniform and running late for class with a piece of toast in its mouth.
All mechs should be eventually drawn as anime girls.
>>98456281is that the fucking /btg/ meme mech on the cover of the CRB?
>>98458230Of course, the broken dumpster fire that is the Regent is front and fucking center of All Things IlClan
>>98456309A wash would do wonders for that paint job, dark grey or black to bring out the panel lines.
>>98458255>>98458230what giant tremendous faggot even got that fucking thing canonised?some fucking reddit dwelling assclown went to mexico and sold a fucking kidney to pay CGL to canonise his fucking fanfiction?
>>98458279Its the fact that they thought it was a good poster child is what I have personal issue with rather than it being canon.
>>98458279Might have a Bishop involved in that
>>98458326Please explain to a newcomer the problem with the mech on the cover? It looks fine.
What was the bigger mistake: the Federated Commonwealth existing at all or the FedCom Civil War resetting things as if it never existed?
>>98458336ok, nuclear urbier is at least funny, this is just OC DONUT STILL tier idiocy.
>>98458358FCCW never happened i don't know what you're talking about. the FC is still going strong in the era of the filthy ilClan. alongside its close ally the DC, the FC is the only hard counter to those clanner fucks
>>98458358>FedCom Civil WarThe biggest mistake was just splitting back to Fedsuns and LyrCom, when it should've shattered into multiple states like the FWL did Post Jihad. That way you'd have a bunch of IS factions jockeying against each other, an easier time justifying RoTS dominance beyond a gay forced disarmament, the Cappies would still suck but be more realistically threatening to it's now smaller neighbors, and the Dracs would be too busy constantly skirmishing with Clanners in their Northern and Western borders, and the resurgent Terrans further South, to really capitalize on most of the other Great Houses shattering.
>>98458358Federated Commonwealth existing at all. Unsettled the balance of power too much and if not for Clan Invasion + Civil War would've ended with a solved setting.
>>98458358Fedcom Civil War. The natural path of the setting was always to make a new Star League, defeat the clans under one banner and have an era of peace with a timeskip before everything falls apart again.VSD abandoning the throne at the end of the FCCW destroyed all that, and they've been fumbling since that so bad, they already had the DA timeskip with the Stoner Peace and are currently pushing for the clans of all factions to actually conquer the IS and have a hundred years of rule. The overarching narrative of the IS pulling itself together for the greater good and recovering tech and pushing forward from 1985 to 2000 was all just tossed in the trash.
>>98458358Its both. The Federated Commonwealth's existence wrote themselves into a corner and something had to be done about it. But the civil war ending up just being "Lyrans vs Feddies and then they split up again lol" is so fucking boring. It should have ended with the FC being severely weakened but surviving.
>>98458388Honestly this. Considering Blackout was already essentially a timeskip and would be a good enough impetus to shatter the nascent star league they should have just had a timeskip around 3100.>Great Refusal>IS decides to continue fighting clanners as a collective driving clans out of IS one by one as the IS clans and Homeworld clans all are infighting>Wars of Reaving and The Society uprising>By the end of it homeworld clans and IS agree to mutual isolation from each other>IS clans largely wiped out or made various subjects of IS powers circa 3100>An era of "peace" really small scale skirmishes, proxy wars, and attempts by great houses to expand into periphery, maybe throw in an era of colonial expansion, physically grow the IS>Blackout or something similar happens, Star League collapses, and IS clans begin rebelling to form their own breakaway states as the Fifth Succession War begins>Homeworld clans debate a return to the inner sphere with debates on what to do ranging from another attempt at conquest "we'll do it right this time and not be corrupted by spheroids" to outright cultural or genetic genocide of inner sphere
>>98458258Yeah, I was also thinking I should make the barrels steel colored to break up the color and at least make the insides of the barrels black.
>>98458339Its fugly and kind of dull for the era.
>>98456738Stephanie Chistu
>>98457623>>98457676>they
>>98457955Of course!We Snow Ravens and defenders of the Third Star League gave the Chancellor PLENTY of attention :)
>>98458339It's everything wrong with IlClan era condensed into a singular object: it's a sterile, flaw-less design, a "better than the Awesome" tryhard design that's heat neutral enough to alpha strike every turn without really threatening shutdown, hiding behind more armor than an Atlas, that moves as fast as a typical assault 'mech ought to, so it can't even be considered slow in comparison. There is no struggle in the Regent, nothing needs to be compensated for or excused by its design, it can simply do whatever the fuck it wants to, when it wants to, to anything it wants.
>>98458516And then Catalyst wonders why everyone is still tepid about ilClan.
>>98458538I think Catalyst thinks the best thing for the game is if everyone can alpha strike constantly with massive weapons - roll lots of dice, do lots of damage, make sure the game concludes quicker (more weapons, less slow positioning)Dull.
>>98458502>We Snow Ravens and defenders of the Third Star League gave the Chancellor PLENTY of attention :) (o_O) :O >:(
>>98458516Personally I like the new toys and generally think Ilclan is fine under two circumstance>Only using limited amounts of post-clan tech (eg. IJJs or Stealth Armor, or PPC capacitors)>Everyone goes balls to the wall with ilclan tech taking special armor, IJJs, VSP lasers, PPC capacitors, HAGs as much as they want
>>98458516>heat neutral enough to alpha strike every turnSure, if you narrow your eyes and only look at two of the five variants and even then one of those gets a pass because it's literally just two ballistic weapons.
>>98458388>>98458417Personally feel they could have combined the FCCW and Jihad as part of a time jump that turns into an IS style War of Reaving. Spitballing here but maybe make it 100+ year time jump so there are generations that have known relative peace. IS Clans have somewhat integrated more into IS society but there are groups who want all Clan taint removed. Some catalyst kicks start essentially a civil war in the 2nd Star League like someone important being assassinated and it quickly crumbles into a Fifth Succession War with several different groups fighting for control. Homeworld Clans are staging Mongol style raids across various vectors via the Periphery to test defenses and obtain resources. Cause of the time jump can do a rule and tech reset that refreshes the setting while retaining the status quo.
are the battletech rpg's any good?which one is the better one? i only know a time of war and mechwarrior destiny but havent read into any of them
>>98458631I actually think Homeworld Clans should have collapsed succession wars style in the Wars of Reaving just to get rid of the whole "second clan invasion" plot that people have been suggesting forever.>Wars of Reaving, nuking planets from orbit, casually declaring annihilation of other clans, and the rebellion of their science caste results in the clans blasting themselves back to pre star-league tech with a few rare examples of older better tech. Could also lead to a sort of ironic cyclical nature of relative peace, prosperity, and advancement before a collapse backwards. IS had the star league and fell with the succession wars, and rose with the second star league, clans rose during the golden century and collapsed during the Wars of Reaving.
>A Time of War does turns in 5 second rather than 10 second increments, and in the 'Mech rules, it mentions that Heat Sinks are treated as half their standard effectivenessI wonder how intensely this affects the viability of different weapons in all eras. Doubles turn into Singles, but in 3025, the base 10 free singles act like 5.
>>98458358I agree with >>98458413 anon in that it was both. Functionally deleting two of the initial factions not even 5 years into the existence of the game was a titanic mistake, but so was how cleanly they made the split up being just a basic revert.>>98458417>>98458631The issue with both of these ideas is that FedCom Civil War was devised and gone through by FASA as the company itself was disintegrating, and they started planning for the Jihad immediately afterwards with the writing meetings going right up to the end.The 2001 Wizkids timeskip to start up Clickytech was dumb, but the Jihad immediately after with Second Star League breaking near the start was all late-stage FASA.Probably would have played out somewhat differently if they did do that rather than how things got backfilled to be like, if we use MechAssault 2 as a rough arrow, but still.
>>98458413I think a more realistic outcome would be for both sides to get totally balkanized like what happened to the HRE after the 30 Years War. It basically could have been an earlier and probably better written version of what they're doing now with the Hinterlands sub-setting.
>>98458413Yeah Fedcom civil war just has a dumb conclusion>Won fedcome civil war>Immediately split up fedcom
>>98458107Did MW5 ever fix that thing with the default paint for Kurita mechs being Ghost Regiment colors even though the game starts 24 years before they existed?
>>98457996The Pouncer. An overpriced, underarmoured 40-tonner. But I've taken some skulls with the H-config nonetheless.>>98458358FedCom CW, because the entire thing disintegrating in 30 years feels so rushed. A lot of the BT timelines problem is that the entire 31st century feels so crammed with developments nothing gets time to breathe, FCCW and Second Star League are the biggest examples of that.
>>98458516>why did they even go to a new era without lots of new better tech>ugh, why are all these new mechs that are supposed to be better than the old ones so good
>heatsinks have set heat dissipation >weapons generate a set amount of heat>engineers cant figure out that ballistics are a waste of time when missiles and lasers are just better
>>98459776Gauss rifles and rotary ACs are worth their weight.
>>98459776Speaking of heat sinks, I assume the hole at the rear of the autocannon of the Shadow Hawk here isn't a heat sink? I ask because pic came from Thicker than Blood, and the Shadow Hawk here is supposed to be Zettai Roku, House Nishimura's personal mech, yet it clearly doesn't look like a Shadow Hawk-2K (the short story mentioned that Zettai Roku is supposed to be an SHD-2K where the PPC is kept, but its LRM-5 launcher is replaced by an SRM-4 launcher).
>>98460322Its where you load the shells by the looks of it.
>>98460322I think you're putting more thought into this than the artist did.
>>98460322Wait, are they actually putting art in novels again?
>>98460322Ejection port? AC shells aren't caseless by default, the case has to go somewhere. Although they are supposed to be loaded into cassettes to burst fire, and whatever's left of that also has to go somewhere.
>>98460662No wait, PPC.So yeah, artist didn't know the variant or didn't think about it. It could be a coolant hookup or maintenance port though.
Why are there no Frog/Toad themed Clans?
>>98460787Because the writers are cowards.
>>98459607>vidyashit>fixing thingslollmao even
>>98459770Name 3 IlClam mechs as tailored to be without flaw as Regent is.Didn't think so. Fuck off, shill.
The batrep is written. All that remains is finding a site to upload the text documents to and then deciding when to post all the results here.
>>98460917Mmmm IIclam
>>98460926I eagerly await the full results
>>98460620Yes.
>>98458584It can alpha strike with it's PPCs and medium laser every term with 2 heat left over for movement. Capacitors push it into the red.
I like the Crockett
>>98457996I, too, like the Von Rohrs, it looks fucking sick.It makes me sad though because its extinction in the early 26th century means there's basically no newer variants of it.
Opinions on the portrayal of Battlemechs in the MechWarrior games? I fucking LOVING Mechwarrior 5 Clans and am almost finished Wolves of Tukkayid and I've enjoyed this game a fuckton. HOWEVER!I dislike how the mechs are shown to move, fight and so on in this and the other MechWarrior games. Gameplay is great, love the Smoke Jag characters, cutscenes are kino etc. But the mechs are...eh?They're too crude and clunky and cumbersome, mechs are meant to move like Mobile Suits, not be WW2 tanks on legs. Do you or do you not, anon, like how MechWarrior does Battlemechs?
>>98461483Cute lil boi
>>98461483Crockett is an excellent mech.
>>98461483I've got one painted up, but I haven't gotten to use it yet.
>>98461533I think Mechwarrior 4 had the best mech animations.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-2mAh9EsWgNotice how different humanoid and chicken walker mechs walk and run.How they'll occasionally trip when they take enough damage at one time (not the fall over and blow up animation).When hit with multiple large weapons they'll nearly fall but recover in response to the damage they take.Watching the video I noticed that the Bushwackers move differently from the Arguses (what's plural for Argus?)None of the Mechwarrior games really show how fluid mechs move. The neurohelmets synch the mech's balance to your own sense balance. So humanoid mechs should move far more smoothly and human like.With the reverse knee mechs, I guess you'd use chickens as your point of reference on how they should move.
>mechs are meant to move like Mobile SuitslolIf this isn't bait go check out AC6, it seems like more your speed.
>>98461533No animation has ever accurately depicted mechs for some weird reason>>98461648These are better but still not 100%>>98461685Hey bud? I get you're a newfag so I won't be too harsh but if you click on that string of numbers in the post, after the date and before the arrow, it will quote the post. You seemed to have missed this feature.Hope that helps :D
>>98461533Personally I'd love a VR Mechwarrior where you were directly controlling the arms and torso.
>>98461533>>98461648The reason the Mechwarrior games are like this is because in the 90’s the games were all made by simulator developers (Dynamix, Microprose, etc…). They made what they knew how to make and that was cockpit simulators. It’s why those games have such a great tactile feel even if the mechs don’t actually behave like they’re supposed to in the lore.The reason Mechwarrior 5 is still like that is because that’s just what people expect.
>>98461698He IS kinda sorta correct. Ish. A 4/5 pilot is going to pilot theirech like we do in the nechwarrior games. Tank controls and really stompy and stiff.A fucking 4/1 is instead using THEIR mech skills to go play in the nosiel games and do a credible and skill full impression of Mech-Ronaldo in the football. Of babe Ruth in the baseball etc.A 4/0 is going to be doing mech fucking ballet.Now you get yourself a plot armour3d faggot like phelan kell at what 0/1 and his srupid little light mech with its single large energy gun is moving and shooting and shooting not like a stompy robot, but like a fucking operator operating operationally In the most bullshit of John wick -ian 'oh for fucks sakes' nonsense ways.Faster, lighter mechs with better pilots almost approach fucking gundam levels of bullshit.And we know this because who's his face, from bkack wido2 company, in his stinger, was basically 'driving' it like it was an infantryman. Bounding to cover, throwing himself prone, cradling his 'rifle' (medium laser) in both hands in a great shooting position, and blasting heads with it at 1000 m well outside of its 'effective range' (for a normal pilot letting the mech aim it)
>>98461533I actually prefer how the machines move in the MW games compared to how they work in "canon" since heavy, crude and stompy af western white-made mechs are based kino kingshit
>>98461770The ideal Battletech animation/gameplay is actually probably somewhere between MW4/MW5 and Pacific Rim; mechs can be agile, but it is a fact of physic that they are heavy and have a lot of inertia. A Hunchback can do a cartwheel in the right hands, but 'toe-toe-hand-hand-toe-toe' ought to sound like walking artillery fire and shake the earth.
>>98461483>filenamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GT1VT5cCDo
>>98461740It's actually got more to do with how long you've been piloting that specific mech. The more you pilot a mech, the better its computers get at interpreting your specific intentions and patterns. A brand new mech you've never used before is always going to be stiff until you've at least run a few laps in it.
>>98461533it is worth pointing out that mechs would always seems to look "slow" simply because they are largera locust moving at walking gait would still move at over 20+kphfaster than a bike but with the appearance of chicken leisurely walking around looking for wormsa marauader moving at the same gait would actually go further due to having almost twice the height, so it would actually appear slower than the locust at the same speed because it would have a slower gaita locust gunning it at top speed has never been modelled correctly, since at 120kph it should have the stride of a cheetah or a horse, and that would actually be impressive to see accurately depicted
>>98461740>in his stinger, was basically 'driving' it like it was an infantryman. Bounding to cover, throwing himself prone, cradling his 'rifle' (medium laser) in both hands in a great shooting position, and blasting heads with itI mean it does look cool.
>>98461848>the better its computers get at interpreting your specific intentions and patterns40k is down the hall, bitch.
>>98461911That's classic lore from the earliest descriptions of how things work. Your battle computer integrates with your neurohelmet to interpret your thoughts and intentions in combination with your physical controls to move the mech.Newer, shittier writing has tried to downplay neurohelmets into *only* being balance readers like some kind of Nintendo gimmick peripheral, but they have always been much more advanced than that. The SLDF advanced neurohelmets had enough feedback that you could pilot hands free with your eyes closed. Wasn't a good idea since the speed of a hand twitch>speed of deliberate command thought, but you could do it.
>>98461911No, he's right. The machine will even learn the terrain of its homeworld and copy weird things about your gait like a limp you have in your real leg. Clans wiping ancient DI's on captured centuries-old family mechs is a bigger warcrime than Turtle Bay.
>>98461883Even this shows mechs even in a more lore-accurate light
>>98461911The only real advantage mechwarrior houses have over military bootcamp pilots and clanners is that they and their mechs are much more synced up since they've been training in it since it was safe to do so. More professional recruits have been transferring between mechs for their training and sharing blank slate units with other trainees so they can't build that library of mental subroutines.
>>98461933Don't forget that a lot of the value in a family mech is in the hard-won and tested physical macros.
>>98461922>That's classic lore from the earliest descriptions of how things workI could not care less about what a bunch of boomer dudes wrote back sometime in the last century. As far as I'm concerned, if it was written before 2020, it has nothing to do with Battletech and doesn't matter. Now take your shitty headcanon and fuck off to some other franchise where you can control Mechs with your brain, because that isn't Battletech.
>98461951
>>98461951Go to bed, cunt. It's fuck o clock in the morning and you've got a busy day later.
>>98461943>grandpa showing off his customized hatchetman
>>98461970Seethe lol >>98461533Game is kino but yeah, they do mechs weird. Never played MW5 Mercs since I don't like the merc side of BT or the Succession Wars-era but from what I've seen online the depiction of mechs is even worse in that game
>>98461962#totalfurydeath
>>98461951Oh this is a good one. It's short and self righteous enough to pass as a genuine post, without resorting to excessive buzzwords or low hanging culture war filler. 9/10, genuinely.
Que?
>>98461911Lol, secondary.
>>98461533The real problem is that it doesn't just affect the aesthetic style, it fucks up the game. Mechwarrior is a game where no one can move good and everyone has pinpoint accuracy so every game is just slow mechs easily fucking each other up at extreme ranges. If you ever ask any nostalgia grog about their experiences they'll all tell you that they boated er large lasers because of course they fucking did. Everyone did. There's no actual variety and this complex garage system is so easy to optimize you wonder why everyone else has mechs that suck, tabletop culture limits you mostly to canon designs for a reason.You go to armored core and they made the right choice, weapons are imperfect in their aim and require timing and correction and mechs, when handled properly, are evasive and slippery so there you can have an actual proper duel. You don't just slowly stagger about other while never missing a shot because your mechs are retarded.This is made much worse in MW5 because the ai is crippled and braindead so every mission is just seal clubbing a horde of 12 year olds who just fresh installed. Merctech 1.0 soon though so at least crouching, kicking, and toppling is back on the menu. Probably the only thing making me keep tabs on the game.
>>98462349because random dispersion makes players disproportionately madjust ask world of tanks players about how much they enjoy the dispersion circle (they dont) or god forbid a counter-strike players opinion on valorant
>>98462227Similar to how the Bushwacker is built off a Griffin chassis and the Cronus is a rebuilt Shadow Hawk; thems what writes the fluff and thems what draws the arts are sometimes bereft of each others counsel.
>>98462360Players already hate when they miss; dispersion and bloom gives them the delusion that the game has stolen from them hits they would have made; at least in games with really tight TTKs.I can see a universe where MW weapons have dispersion or spread, but it would have to exist as a critical downside to classes of weapons and not as the rule. Technically SRMs and LBs already behave a little like they have spread, fitting that niche.I actually have found MW5 to be one of the better games for canon/near canon loadouts as you can still win fights and finish missions without too much trouble by upgrading mechs, slotting in skilled pilots and so on, so you don't end up just running a lance of headcappers or medium laser boats. My only compliant is there's no middleground (that I'm aware of) between full mechlab mods and vanilla; once everything is unlocked there's no reason not to build bullshit.
>>98460579>>98460752I figured that it was a case of the artist not communicating with Robin Briseño, the writer of Thicker than Blood.
>>98462883On another topic, have there been cases in this franchise where one rich individual managed to buy an entire planet and use a personal mercenary unit to turn the locals of the planet into slave labor to enrich himself or herself further, even by way of multilation? In case you're wondering, I have in mind King Leopold II of Belgium acquiring modern-day Democratic Republic of Congo as his personal property until the beginning of the 20th century.
I've fucked up the painting on my LMIII Mad Cat and need to start from scratch, what's the safest way to strip it for another go?
>>98462894That would fall under the purview of pirate kingdoms. I can't think of any examples of someone doing it remotely though, they're all pretty hands on. Mercenaries who would be willing to do that would also be the sort to just take over since you're not around to stop them. What are you gonna do, blow the lid on your own humanitarian disaster?
>>98462911Acetone for white metal, Simple Green for plastic or resin.
>>98456738>Were there any Wardens in Clan Jade Falcon?https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Evelyn_Buhallin
>>98462911Did you varnish it already? That matters.
How do you maintain the territory that far apart? I mean I don't even see 30 lyr per jump routes to get there
>>9846291199% IPA and/or Super Clean
>>98463405Making sure you have the coordinates in a star chart for jumping and/or a functional HPG.
Completed my 2nd lance
>>98463489Love that Thud
>>98463489Where did you get that... base holder or whatever rectangular thing?
>>98463492Thanks!>>98463520It's 2 pieces of foam board, the top one with hexes cut out. Pic related, is a WIP of my other lance.
>>98463534>>98463489these are fucken awesome.
>>98463405The typical map only shows systems that are or were inhabited because there are a huge number of stars in a 30 light year area. They would just pick some relatively hot ones to minimize recharge time and always go by the same route to minimize the possibility of getting stranded with no one ever being able to find them.
>>98462979One assumes that the beat way to keep mercs on a leash is to have a line on mech and dropship parts for them, plus dropships of your own, and jumpship contracts to make the exploitation painless. This is kinda what the Hanseatic League did, only they Aldo stirred up a war between space dirkas and space Spain to profit off of both.Basically I'm saying make your dude a Lyran.
>>98463741To be fair, Hansa was acting much more comptent than LCW. Their only problem was that they runned into non-retarded Clan (I wish hanseatic crusade got some neat details,because generally it looked like well written conflict)
>houses own thousands of worlds >are concerned about the price of...anythingThe fuck?
>>98464066Welcome to government. It's a massive money sink at best.
>>98463855I'm fine with the Scorps taking over. It's like the Ghost Bear Dominion except not boring.
>>98460322The 5K comes out way too late in the timeline, there should've been Katanaman refits by 3039. An Axman version too, although maybe Dracs would give that one a mace instead, call it the Tetsuboman.
>>98460322Recoilless rifle like the Toyama AC10Also cool to be seeing the sword hatchetman variant
What mechs are the most cylindrical and can-on-legs shaped?
>>98464583Mackie
>>98464066BT is a Third World setting, basically. Lots of land, not much being done with it compared to how much war costs.
>>98461911>trying too hard: the post
If we ever get Battletech TV show, Amaris will be played by Colin Farrell in a fat suit. If you wanna know the truth about it.
>>98465005I'd dread a Battletech live action. It'd be completely ruined by Hollywood slop writing. Like trying to turn it into Game of Thrones in space with everything being mud colored and a dozen unnecessary sex scenes.
>>98465022Not like BT is a masterfully put together narrative
>>98465032Yeah but there's no need to make it even worse
>>98465022I for one can't wait to see every member of the Steiner-Davion dynasty be a different ethnicity.
>>98457996I'm a Champion Stan. Give me plastic.
>>98465022BT isn't popular enough for a live action. That being said casting for a hypothetical Netflix slop series would be amusing.
>>98464583Urbie, jagermech, flashman, imp.
>>98465049>I for one can't wait to see every member of the Steiner-Davion dynasty be a different ethnicity.I mean Hanse genes did get around...
Personally, I think if they did do a BattleTech film or miniseries, the best thing to do would be an adaptation of The Sword and The Dagger. It's self-contained, the basic storyline already exists, but it was written so early that the established canon has diverged a lot, so there's plenty of room for reinterpreting things.
>>98458516Funny, just today I made a regent like awesome.3 snub nose PPC, LBX 20 17 DHScompact gyroendo composite14t of armorDespite being relatively optimized, it still has a lot of flaws like slow speed/no long range weapons, only 2t of lbx ammo, less armor than regular awesome etc. I hate using clan tech because it feels like cheating.
>>98465417On the topic of designing mechs I love VSPs. -3 to hit up close is a very enjoyable level of reliability. Could be a fun concept for "conscript mech" a relatively cheap mech, heat neutral, trooper, all energy so no ammo, and pulse/VSP lasers with targeting computers so your 6/7 ultra green pilot is shooting like a 2/7 pilot at close ranges.
Decision at Thunder Rift starring Ryan Gosling as Grayson Carlyle
Which character or faction would be mostly likely to post wall of text rants on social media?
Growing up is realiaing that davion is evil and the capellans are the good guys
>>98465583Taurians.
>>98465417>I hate using clan tech because it feels like cheating.Same, I had a config I wanted to try on a Sunder of 2 HPPCs and 3 SNPPCs but the only way to make it work would be using clantech, or a different omni which I don't want to because I like the Sunder
>>98465583Jade FalconAlthough I enjoyed the unhinged Smoke Jag sibko group chat from about a month ago.
>>98465594>Growing up is realiaing that davion is evil and the dracs are the good guysftfy :)
>>98465628>>98465594Clan wolf are the good guys, actually
>>98465636This but the Star Adders
>>98462711I think an apt comparison would be how Bugatti's are made with Audi parts.
I spit on the Draconis CombineAnd not just for Kentares IVAfter all, if it weren't for KuritaThere'd have never been Succession WarsBut we all know Liao had it comingSo who cares if we started the 4th?And love me, love me, love meI'm a Davion
>>984655055/8 moving Centurion with an lvspl, mml 9, ml and rear facing ml. Case for the left torso, and max armor thanks to ff. SFE, and endosteel. Honestly sounds like a fun trooper to use.
>>98465505I've been using the Spider with two MVSPs, and it is a true menace. Most of the time it only really gets to do something every other turn since it needs to run away to gain TMM, but on those turns where it's up somethings ass, it's going to pound them hard.
Clan tech Raider when?
>>98466035Stormcrow?
I'm trying to find a scenario, it might have been one of the Battlecorps ones, where the premise is someone (dracs?) is attacking a research facility at the bottom of the lake so it's mechs vs boats and submarines.
>>98461533>Razorfist made this post
>>98464066Most of those worlds are borderline worthless shitholes that are the equivalent of a gas station on the way to somewhere that actually matters.
How universal/cross-compatible non-wargear parts and structures of the BattleMechs? Can you make a part up in your MechBay if needed, like how they do in Pakistani blacksmith or something?
>>98466393If you are part of an army or large merc group your machinists and engineers probably can cook up a replacement part for any mechanical component.
>>98466393Most mechs of the same weight have compatible parts, but you can fabricate your own (they won't be good though). Some mechs like the Clint use non-standard parts that are harder to source replacements for.
>>98466393
>>98465583>Taurians>Jade Falcons>Post FCCW FedsunsI'd say Cappies but let's be honest, that'd be purely MASK glowies.At least with Fedsuns you could say it's only 50/50 between genuine text rants and MIIO bots.
Can anyone hook me up with the full list of changes between every Battletech rulebook published, ever?
>>98466775The list for TW alone is over 60 pages.
>>98466789between TW versions or BMR:Revised to TW?
>>98466826Between TW versions.
>>98466866This. It was already a fucking sheaf when I used to keep that shit in my 3rd Printing from 2006.
>>98466775They have it, comprehensive on their site; I collated it page by page and it was too many pages to added to my old TW copy. I just bought an updated one.
if it was so much then what happened to that "BT hasn't changed in 40 years" talking point
>>98466929Mostly advanced tech, edge cases and LoS flipflops like "You need LoS for C3, wait NO!" or "We're going to change Re-lasers to not total shit so people will maybe use them."3025 grogtech is pretty much the fucking same until the latest round of fuckery about kicks and such.
>>98466929That was always disingenuous. While it's true that you can still play with Tales of The Black Widow and other stuff released in 1985, the core rules have notably changed since then. There was the Partial Cover change, the move from the basic simple original vehicle rules to BMR vehicles to TW vehicles, loads of other stuff.>>98466941This is broadly correct. The partial cover change was the only big difference between the early days and last month that affected introtech mech combat. The melee rebalance we're getting with Core is in the same vein.
I think they should bring back the Reaction Phase
>>98466947Are melee weapons finally worth it or are kicks still king?
>>98466994the what now
>>98467000It's mostly a nerf to kicks that brings them up, not an actual buff. But now, punches are just as good with a nice hit table and no control roll.
>>98467009i would argue punches will be better now since missing carries no penalty. missing a kick and falling on your ass is a bad time
>>98467000Kicks have been hit with a nerfbat by going from -2 to hit to only -1. Punches have gone from -0 to hit to -1 as well, so they hit on the same number as kicks, which means the question becomes about the risk of a kick making yourself fall vs extra damage, and the punches having no risk to yourself except making your arms busy and having a chance to hit a head or a heavily damaged torso section.Swords and hatchets haven't changed but are now better relatively because kicks are worse. Some niche melee weapons have gotten buffs, like retractable blades lost the chance to break.
>>98467015I agree. It's just that the kick -2 to a -1 does that instead of any other boost to the actual punch.
I think the biggest relative winners of the new updates are MRMs, which lost their pants shittingly bad +1 to TN and replaced it with a less important -1 to the cluster table, while Apollo gained the option to turn them into an AE weapon that turbo fucks light mechs and battle armor.
>>98467008Declaring torso twists used to be a separate phase before the weapon declaration phase. It's a nothing rule that hasn't existed since 1997(?)
>>98467022As someone who HONORS THE DRAGON, I find this totally acceptable, especially in Stoner+ eras.
Which record sheets will be invalidated by the Core Box? Do we know?
>>98467030CGL makes missteps, but honestly the rules changes that appeared and got tested in Core shows that at least the guy they had write the book plays the game. A lot of weapons and equipment lost their completely unnecessary downsides that made them much worse than the things they were supposed to be compared to. Like Thunderbolts losing the half damage in minimum range.
>>98467036None. The Core Rulebook invalidates all of 25 or so, specifically those with the Bombast Laser on them, as its stats changed. If you have any sheets already printed with a Bombast Laser on them before reading this, congratulations, you get a gold star.
>>98467045Sorry, I meant the Core Rulebook (stupid names...).>Bombast laserNever even played with this thing but alright guess I'm good
>>98467045The hell is a Bombast Laser
>>98467016To be fair, especially in introtech, mecha muay thai where they trade leg kicks was a little silly.
>>98467054It's a laser that can have a variable level of power for varying effects. Old rules made it basically useless. New rules give it some niche ability since you can break LOS and spend a turn charging it up for a really good shot.Like I said, 25 or so record sheets in the game with one.
>>98466929It was never true. The very first thing actually called Battletech was a 2nd edition of Battledroids with many significant rules changes. For the first like 15 years of Battletech, we got a new rulebook with updated rules every 4-6 years. Total Warfare is the odd one out for lasting so long.
>>98467015I'd say it's still situational, damage to legs generally matters more than damage to torsos plus chance for enemies to fall.
Rule changes are why all those anti-Elemental mechs with Streak 2 launchers can't do their job anymore. You used to be able to load infernos into SRM-2 or SSRM-2 and it eas an area effect attack that fucked anything it hit. Now you can load them in regular SRMs of any size, streaks never, and they only have significant effects en masse.
>>98467090>all those anti-Elemental mechs with Streak 2 launchers can't do their job anymoreIrate Fireball screaming!.HPG
>>98467090You also couldn't load them into an SRM6, so, trades have to be made.
>>98467090Couldn't be meBut seriously you'd think the devs would throw us a bone or something and make non streak variants
>>98467038Yeah, it being headed up by the guy in charge of rules instead of, say, the guy in charge of fluff really helped, and with the playtest you saw stuff get changed as it went along as a result of feedback. As revisions go I'm happy with it, even if I don't like every last thing that went down.>>98467038The Watchdog is the other sheet change. Instead of being a LAP, it's going to be a full probe.
>>98457996Primitive Emperor. I love that thing
>>98467009>>98467017So is there any point to clubs, or is that still basically pointless compared to punches and kicks?
>>98467289Clubs have gotten easier to grab, and now allow you to deal Kick damage on the full body chart, which is occasionally useful. Still niche. Thing about clubs is you can't make them too good because then they become really useful for every single mech with two hands.
>>98467295>Thing about clubs is you can't make them too good because then they become really useful for every single mech with two hands.On the other hand they need to have some genuine value, otherwise what's the point? Especially since it's supposed to be this common thing MechWarriors have been pulling off when the going gets tough for literal centuries. Why bother if mechanically you're better off doing kungfu?
>>98467307The advantage of a club in that scenario is that it's kick damage on the full body chart, as opposed to two punches. We all know how much more meaningful a 14 damage hit can be than two 7 damage hits.
I wish Dual Wielding was a thing, it's immediately balanced out by the fact you're using up so much weight one two melee only weapons in the arms.
>>98467423It isn't really a thing irl
>>98467423You can use dual claws. Otherwise, you can apparently charge with dual lances now, which I think affects all of one wacky Solaris mech, but I'll take it all the same.
>>98467423You can follow up a chain whip grapple with any other melee attack, including a weapon in the other hand. Templar III B does it.
>>98466174I think that was a part of the battle of Galtor at the end of the 3rd SW.
>>98467462That's cool and all, but I'm specifically referring to the table top game about giant piloted robots engaged in armored combat.None of that really screams realism.
>>98467022>MRMs are no longer +1 to hitHoly shit my Akuma just got 10% more viable.
>>98467462Neither are mechs.
>>98467712the ones with the Apollo system now allow you to AOE attack a hex (cluster result divided by three for damage). Great if you're being annoyed by fast movers
>>98467462It technically is, but it's a very specific kind of style and it's more of one weapon for striking and the other weapon for parrying or controlling your opponent's melee.
>>98467068Catalyst are retarded faggots and there are reasons to dislike the new core but the histrionics I’ve seen over the rules changes are just too absurd to take seriously.
>>98467423you should play Metal Fatigue which is an old ass 3d RTS game with mechs. you could do this. It left a big impression on me but i found it during the mid 2000s growing up.there were legs you could upgrade your mech with so it would get a higher chance to cut enemy parts off.Random but anyone in here play mech warrior dark age or know anything about the game? looking for people to talk to about the game and what it was like back in the day. I have a lot of the figures from the first set i collected back in the 2000s but i never got a chance to play with other people.
>>98467881>Metal FatigueHuh, looks vaguely Battletech. It's only 6 bucks on steam, too. I might pick this up. Thanks for the rec, anon.
>>98467572I might be misremembering but didn't they change the rules around that.Or actually I might be thinking of the Cudgel.Wasn't it originally designed around being able to grapple with special claw rules so that you'd have an easier time hitting an enemy with the mace?
>>98467951I don't know the history, but the current rules sets it up so that the Chain Whip gets "bonus attacks" after successfully hitting, either a trip attack if it hit a leg or a grapple if it hit an arm, with that bonus attack repeating every turn until the grapple is broken. Because that grapple attack is a bonus, it doesn't count for your one melee attack per round, although neither unit can use whichever arm is involved in that grapple.
>>98466929>BT hasn't changed in 40 yearsThis is called "a lie", and it's something the FASA peeps brought with them through to dissolution, WizKids, and now CGL as a blanket justification for mutating the game as they see fit, just to stick it to grogs.
>>98467038GW should learn how to streamline their rules without throwing baby out with the water.
What's the best way to remove tanks from the base? Got a couple pic relateds for cheap, and there's an open space between the treads that would be annoying to base without removing it from the base. But I don't know how to do that easily or without damaging things.
>>98468130>Forgot the image
What would you do if quasar wiped out half of battletech setting?
>>98468130>>98468133https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAPuGr6ZsCA
>>98468140I don't think a single Galaxy is enough to wipe out half the setting despite how dumb the writing is.
>>98468169Thanks anon
>>98461951I am not even buying the new rules, kys CGL shill.
Seeing as Universes Beyond was a big hit for MTG despite the constant bitching of the hard-core fanbase and the dust has settled on the Unseen legal issues, would CGL be crazy enough to try adding licensed mechs from other properties into the game? Mazingers, Getters Robo, Armored Troopers, etc. Presumably not Gundams since they have their own miniatures game now. Maybe bring in Dougram and Macross and have some kind of explanation for why so many BattleMechs look like stuff from their timeline.
>>98468466Let's hope not, shit crazy tech has no place in BT even if it chose in the past to steal some skins.
>>98468466>HPG blackout was caused by fallout from all the multiverse shit going on in SRW since Advanced and really ramping up in the Z series rippling through the hyperspace dimension.>Misjumps to and from parallel universe's become increasingly common.>House Cameron, several members of which had experienced psychic visions, were influenced to sponsor the creation of BattleMechs by a similar effect to the "Whispered" phenomenon of Full Metal Panic, perceiving information about mechs from adjacent timelines.>Clan Homeworlds are caught in the crossfire of two extradimensional empires from different counterparts of the Pentagon Worlds, both lead by inscrutable, androgynous god-kings.
>>98465317That could work, but I would prefer them following one planet through the years, one ruled by a smaller time noble family. Probably Federated Suns, on the closer to Terra side.Pilot introduces the world and some local level politics, maybe fighting off a pirate raid or giving off the medieval vibe via a 'Mech joust or arena fight. Then there is a military buildup on the world with their levies called up, with the purpose kept somewhat mysterious though people generally figure its attacking the Capellan Confederation. Midpoint of the season, the parts of the family not commanding levies go to Terra for the Steiner-Davion wedding. Remainder of the season, one half fights in the 4th Succession War while the other half is defends against Maskirova and Comstar disrupting the supply lines going through their world.Season 2 juggles them having gotten a second (maybe third) world from the conquests as part of their demense and the feudal political and administrative nightmare that is trying to manage that, while the War of 3039 ramps up. End of season, heir marries someone from a minor Rassalhauge noble house.Season 3, the aforementioned hair has inherited and said marriage tie pulls them into the Clan Invasion.Season 4, FedCom civil war with the Capellan Confederation taking advantage of the chaos ultimately reducing the noble family back to 1 planet, with the family splitting between loyalties just like FedCom.Season 5, first heir is killed off early into the Jihad and a very young lord comes into power during the chaos before the Word of Blake takes over the world. Family splits again - half goes FedSun merc while the other joins up with Devlin Stone - world eventually becoming part of the Republic of the Sphere.And so on and so forth. 1 season per major event is a bit tight, but them being on the lower end rather than Great House level could balance that out. And each being standalone would allow for easier greenlighting.
>>98468466Battletech's build system and game balance is basically almost impossible to properly fit in things from other settings unless you just made up all sorts of new shit for it. For example, a lot of mecha properties just don't do overheating and can just carry extra weight if they need to. You would be skipping that entire balancing feature. You're probably better off just making a new game with inspiration.>>98468517Battletech is more wundertech than dougram itself.
>>98465071I wonder how much the Champion supposedly influenced Clan culture considering it was essentially a SLDF design meant for dueling?
>>98468724It's not impossible to fit things from other settings, however, it would end up moreso in the "Inspired By" style rather than 1:1.In fact, there is already precedent for how they would do the Universes Beyond style that >>98468466 mentions. The Nebula California books. Transformers, Star Wars, Halo, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, basically every fantasy setting, Marvel/DC, and something that feels like Stargate all have a bunch of legally distinct stuff in there with both additional weapons and specific construction ruleslists to make things that fit with each of the settings beyond the base stuff provided.This includes stuff like the specific style of laser cannon and shield tech of Star Wars to a method of converting 3.5 D&D to the A Time of War RPG.Place is stated to be far from fully explored, so they could just keep shoving stuff in there and it's all safe from affecting the wider setting because of the "Hollywood" anomaly cutting off jump drives from being able to leave the area even if they can jump around inside it.
>>98468724Not to mention that most Japanese mechs vastly out perform anything in BT. Dont get me started on any super robots either. Mazinger Z might solo a great house.
>>98468803Honor the Dragon!
>>98468466the average battlemech would be the generic disposable goons that mazinger Z would tear through on its way to fight an actual threatmazinger Z is 18m tall, so even something as large as an atlas is getting bullied relentlessly by mazingerand they have no defense against the rocket punch or the breast fire, other than trying to attack 50 at a time so that mazinger uses all of its energy reserves on the first 20 to show up
>>98468803>Mazinger Z might solo a great house.the jet scrander grants super sonic flight and access to yet more bullshittium like the southern cross knives to shoot down any great house that gets the idea to engage mazinger in the airthe great houses would study mazinger Z and then whip their greatest scientists to cook up some kind of counter-measure that would defeat mazinger Z once and for allbut then koji kabuto gets righteously furious at how evil the great houses are and just adapts to whatever new invention or tactic the great houses have cooked up this week>HAHA THAT MAZINGER Z WILL BE NO MATCH FOR OUR LATEST CREATION, THE NUCLEAR ATLAS>at best it gets mazinger Z on the ropes for 5 minutes before koji discovers some new tactic that flips the table on them and it gets turned to dust, melted, or just has a hole punched right through its chest>the one time it looks like they are about to defeat mazinger Z and they are about to pop open a champagne, boss borot and aphrodite A show up and rescue mazinger Z at the last moment>some poor soul will have to live with the shame of being killed by boss borot
>>98465022>Like trying to turn it into Game of Thrones in space with everything being mud colored and a dozen unnecessary sex scenes.I'm meant to hate this?
>>98468835battlemechs rather famously come in all sorts of colorsthere are boring mud-colored or olive drab mechs to be sure, but for every one of those you have primary colored ones to balance the case outthe comguard famously come in stormtrooper white
>>98468842Davion Guards are red white and blue
>>98468842I need to do some colored mechs, usually I do some camo or grey but I need to remember that painting your mech in tiger stripes is perfectly viable.
Having finished the last chapter of Exodus Road yesterday, I must ask: other than Judith Farber, were there other ROM agents assigned to allow themselves to be captured in the Battle of Tukkayid and made bondsmen to find information about the Clans, or was she the only one alive to do so?
Anyone got the short story collection in epub format? I want to read the Star League era stuff on my reader. Can't see it in the mega.>>98456309Good shit anon. I paint mine all individual so I can use them for whatever. I need to do a quartered paintjob too.
>>98469044Yeah also for a setting about space nobility and space knights and mech houses, and and mechs being private property I feel like most mechs should have unique heraldry. Leave the tankers to follow consistent themes.
>>98469060/mydudes/ are all heirlooms
>>98469060>a setting about space nobility and space knights and mech houses, and and mechs being private propertyIt hasn't been that since Helm, when everything heel-turned into standing armies following regimented, structured formations. Heirlooms took a back seat to House units and merc outfits hiring out in bigger-than-lance blocs. The knight errant-ness of 3025 BT became more a Mechwarrior RPG thing than reflected in the tabletop game, sadly.
>>98469168>It hasn't been that since HelmYou mean the Clan Invasion. The existing machines didn't magically disappear. Percentages were still something like 95% personally-owned until the clans reaped the fuck out of entire RCT's with a cluster or two (Legend Anthology). Houses were still only making about double what they did before Helm (~10 regiments a year instead of 5), and most of that was used for growing the whole military. Let's not get into the craziness of disappearing Drac regiments after 20YU and FASA factchecking, though.It was the formation of the Fedcom that forced countries to make their units act more like a modern army (stuff like Galahad got the Feddies up and running first), but it was still full of personal mechs. Of course, the Dracs both kept more personal machines than anyone and had the most problems with making them follow orders and act as cohesive units all the way into the DA.
>>98468597>>98468466Putting a group of armed, pro-war anti-transhumanist/human supremacists in a game full of Newtypes, Posthumans, Cyborgs, Androids, Clones, Aliens and people who claim non-human status even though their people breed true with humans would result in very strained human relationships, no matter which side they're assigned to join.And that's discounting all the war crimes, which they really aren't okay with either.
>>98469234>El HazardNow, I want an isekai where some random guy gets transported into Battletech, and wakes up some experimental SL AI superweapon with the body of a sexbot.Also, his bully is boning a Liao Chancellor and makes friends with all the bug people, I mean citizens.
>>98469262In order to hold the AI and the weapons, the sex bot would have to be at least eight meters tall.
>>98469287Call it a Battlemaster with networked realdoll.
>>98469303>It's my battle computer's interface
If you want the new "Core Rules" book, i just uploaded to the folder. PErsonally i will only add some rules as house rules, most of the changes are just retarded.As always, not a dime for Porchman, and FUCK CGL!
>>98469373Guess it will take a little while for it to show up.
>>98469412Cranston have to upload it from the drop folder to the main one.
>>98469373Awesome anon thanks.
>>98469452You welcome Anon. I got my hands in some of the new fiction, will see what is already in the folder and what not to upload.
>>98469168I like the historical aspect of structured forces and fighting historical battles. But it's lame that the fanbase is so autistic on it where anything else is shat on.
>>98469373Sweet but I got Master Rules instead
>>98468842I may play a bunch of second rate shitters in boring jungle camo but most units should have lots of color especially the elite units.
Okay... okay, okay, okay! I reviewed all the documents and ran everything through a spellchecker. I planned out the pictures that will be posted alongside the batreps. I have confirmed that each post will be within the 2,000 character limit of 4 chan. I have even created a new gmail account just so that it can be dedicated to this.Aside from having prepped what I'll be posting here, which will take 18 posts in total, I've prepared links that I'll include to files uploaded to a google drive, which can be seen in the pic here. Each of them will link to the documents and files I used to carry out this game and have even more details.The Lore of Kapteyn Academy. You should probably read this first, as I won't be including it in the BatRep posted here.The turn by turn pictures of the battlefield, including lines to indicate who attacked who on each turn.The record sheets for each unit for every single turn, so you can see the damage they took and when they took it.The BatRep itself, in a convenient and easy to read format.The Turn Logs. if you're curious what actions were taken from turn to turn, who won initiative, and what the specific to hit rolls were even, you'll find that all here. This is how I tracked everything that happened in the game.Last, but not least, every Mechwarrior Cadet that was part of the battle has received a written eval, or report card if you will. It details their individual performance, including damage dealt, attacks made and hit, and what your faction's liaison thought of your performance. This will also not be included as part of the 18 posts but you'll definitely want to check it out for how your pilot performed, and maybe the others too.Current plan is to upload it all at the beginning of the next topic.
>>98467057>turn 1 dash for the middle>shin kicking extravaganza follows>spend rest of game whiffing shots and kicking legs off>several mechs inevitably fall and get stomped to death>bonus points if someone dies to an ammo crit via leg kickNgl, this is what I love most about grogtech.
>>98469373>most of the changes are just retarded.Such as?
>>98470122You can still walk with one leg. Also crits to leg actuators only reducing -1 MP. And thats two among a lot.
>>98469903Personal question, are you this intense and organised on all your projects and interests, or is it just BT that does it for you?
>>98470144>You can still walk with one legThis doesn't sound that crazy when you consider destroying a leg isn't necessarily blowing it clean off. It could just be rendered practically immobile but still be attached
>>98470308still surprised about the amount of kvetching when the devs pitched the idea of making a distinction between "leg obliterated" and "leg disabled" so now we just get something half-assed insteadhope you like tac ops sonny
>>98468833>live with being killed
>>98468814>>98468833Honestly, the first Mazinger wasn't that out there. It was just a big, humanoid mech with tons of missiles and some energy weapons. The bit that would be interesting is how Breast Fire would work with Battletech's heat mechanics, because the deal is that the red "Pyro Panels" on its chest are external heat sinks that draw heat away from its reactor and somehow convert it into wide angled laser beams via "Photo-Atomic Energy". Some of the sequel series turn it into this weird extradimensional thing involving parallel timelines to tie the different adaptations over the years together and because they realized how much it breaks the laws of physics if you think about it too hard, but apart from the weird ancient civilization stuff, the classic series was fairly simple and "realistic", kinda like how Superman was originally just a guy who was really strong and could jump over buildings because he came from a high gravity planet.
>>98470660>The bit that would be interesting is how Breast Fire would work with Battletech's heat mechanics, because the deal is that the red "Pyro Panels" on its chest are external heat sinks that draw heat away from its reactor and somehow convert it into wide angled laser beams via "Photo-Atomic Energy".It's literally a mech flamer.
>>98470308Leg blow out and all the IE destroyed means there is no more leg, not "leg disabled". This is not MWO.
>>98469989Grogtech is fine in doses, but it's silly, if you want a badass mech game you'll be disappointed when combat is a bunch of drunk toddlers with BB guns tripping and kicking each other.
How do you guys prime/paint your metal minis? No matter what I do I am rubbing off paint from sharp edges just handling the thing. I swear it didn't use to be like this. Right now I am:>Going over the mini with a brass brush>washing it with soapy water>priming with rustoleum self-etch primer from a rattlecan>priming again with vallejo primer (2:1 thinner to primer ratio)So far I am getting a more durable primer coat from brushing it on instead but from what I gather it seems like everyone just relies on a strong ass topcoat
I'm taking this to the next WAACfag event, what do you think?
>>98470758Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. I basically use brush on primer to touch up any bald spots as I go and then use a strong gloss varnish to keep it in. You could try using a matte varnish after priming but before adding anything else.
>>98470758Rust-Oleum 2-in-1 paint/primer
>>98469412Still nothing?
>>98470788>topcoating the primerI'll try that thanksmakes sense since it's got a lot of handling to endure during the painting process
Are there any reasons if you're some militia or marketing to them, to not swap out ICE engines with Fuel Cells for tanks? FCEs seem strictly better for the tank thing of boating ballistics and missiles..
>>98470928Fuel cells actually require a specific fuel, ICE might be lower tech than the alternatives, but they are still future space engines and they can run on any flammable sludge you can scrape into the fuel tank.
>>98470928Fuel Cells are more picky, ICE will run on whatever you have lying around and can fit in there. If you've got the infrastructure to put out hydrogen you'll want Cells, but a desert shithole is going to get more use from burning the local infestation of tumbleweed.
>>98470779you for sure want to win.
>>98470951>>98470958Also I'm pretty sure ICE goes a lot further on the same sized tank. I guess you could use the saved weight to add more fuel storage for the cell, but filling up your combat vehicle with hydrogen/oxygen tanks is maybe not the best idea.
>>98470928ICE engines have longer range like an extra 150km and if adding additional fuel tanks get way more range out of them compared to fuel cells. So if you are that kind of autist who plays those really optional campaign style rules then ICE is more fuel efficient. Also cost of course, fuel cells really are that expensive that you honestly may as well pay that wee bit extra more and get a fusion unless you are going up to bigger engines. ICE is significantly cheaper than both.
>>98471022>that wee bit extra more and get a fusionIs this yet another case of FASAnomics not matching the fluff?
>>98470150No, I'm not, but I wouldn't even say BT does this to me. I think it's more that if I'm going to do this, I might as well make sure it's well planned out. Tracking a game with 18 units that took 17 turns to complete, across several weeks, is something you have to be meticulous about if you're going to do it. So then when it comes time to present the results to everyone, might as well make sure it's in top shape. Also, BT players love the crunch. I might as well share the crunch that I did as I went.
>>98470967well that's why they call it WAAC
>>98470884I hadn't checked since then. Upon checking back now, I still don't see it. I'm not in a hurry. I'm also assuming it will be dropped into the Core Rulebooks folder. Would be strange for it to go anywhere else.
>>98471054Pretty much though it is more a case at lighter engine sizes that you start to question why you wouldn't want a fusion.Like say I want to make a 5/8 tracked tank. At 30 tons I've got 18.5 tons free with a fuel cell and the engine costs 210k. Fusion has 17 tons free but costs 300k. An ICE gives me 14.5 tons and engine costs 75k. ICE represents a huge ass saving here although not a lot of tonnage to play with here so its out the running. The main thing that kills fuel cells is that if you choose a fusion over a fuel cell you can now have something like a PPC as your main armament. In fact lets make this an example by making a mini Myrmidon.Fusion - for 854,100 C-Bills you get a PPC, SRM2 w/1 ton ammo, 7 tons of armor. Not bad.Fuel cell - 638,950 C-bills you get an AC/5 w/1 ton ammo, SRM2 w/1 ton ammo, 6.5 tons of armor. Not great. Basically for 200k more you get a vastly more capable tank that doesn't really have to worry about ammo costs.
>>98470779Needs more CLPL.
>>98470758Honestly I just primed my white metal lads in coats. Brush on as much coverage as I could get, then let it cure for a few days, then do it again until I had an even coat.I'm still hitting it with some serious poly on the top (2, 3 layers).
>>98471090If you were truly committed to winning, you would break your opponents minis so they can't be used and they have to forfeit. There's not a rule in any major tournaments about penalties for deliberately breaking minis, so it's legal until a rule is implemented.
>>98471503That sounds like a misdemeanor and I don't want to pay $6-20 plus labor and emotional hardship in small claims court for each mini my opponent brings, or hide the evidence by simply eating the minis. What if he takes 24 Locusts against my Mad Cat?
>>98471521>24 Locusts against my Mad Cat20 would die before getting into medium range
>>98471503If you were truly committed to winning, you would break your opponent's skulls so they can't play and end up getting disqualified for not playing. You can also take his minis afterwards and nobody would notice.
>>98471555That's not true and you know it. The side with more units can automatically get initiative advantage, and so the sigh with more units is almost guaranteed to win. That's just simple math. BV differential doesn't even matter. An average 3025 inner sphere lance can take a single Clan Mech 9 times out of 10, no matter what the BV is, just because of the initiative bonus.
>>98471564>BV differential doesn't even matter.To an extent, a good clan lance can beat a shittier IS company. However, when you're talking 3x or more numerical advantage it really starts to become untenable.
>>98471564If you wanted someone to post the experiment, you could just ask.
>>98471634NTAwhat experiment?
>>98471713We've run the single clanner vs introtech lance game repeatedly. Introtech gets stomped most of the time. Often they can't even get better than long range shots while the clanner gets to pulse it out from beyond most IS weapon ranges.
>>98471726Are these AI vs AI? Because Princess is pretty retarded, especially when using shittier mechs. I wiped out an entire company of mechs with a single mech fighting Princess because she was incapable of cornering me or concentrating fire effectively.
>>98471750I'm pretty sure Princess would run the LRM clanner into melee range.
>>98471726Yes, but we haven't run TimberWolf vs. 8 Locust before. 1 or 2 Locusts die on approach. TimberWolf is then surrounded by 6 Locusts and can't move.6ML, 12MG, 6 Kicks = 78 damage5ML, 10MG, 5 Kicks = 65 damageThen 52 damage, then 39, 26, 13.Potential Locust total dames is 221, plus knockdowns and potential rear armor damage and high numbers of potential through armor crits.
>>98471761It's a clanner. Their LRMs don't have minimum range. It'll be fine.
>>98471779Yes, but they do have much longer range bands than most weapons, so giving the enemy short range when you could have gotten short range from their medium is foolish.
>>98471750>Are these AI vs AI?No. It's from a couple years back. Some live players ran it. To control for skill, NEA and one of his local group who's also a high tier player ran the scenario 4 times, IIRC, playing as the clanner twice each. Result was 3 wins and a 1 tie, in favor of the clanner.
>>98471800Don't forget there was also that one where NEA ran a Stalker against a medium pursuit lance that had half again as much BV as he did, and the Stalker won both times.
>>98471763Assuming the clanner can't find a 3 level tall cliff or chokepoint to force the Locusts to spend more time running around. The Locusts can't jump either so they need to be able to actually run around to get behind the Mad Cat. Or split fire while the Locusts are still out of range. My first instinct would be to soften up as many of them as possible and then worry about actually killing them in detail when they can't get good TMMs anymore.
>>98469903Been eagerly following the progress, and looking forward to the results. Cheers Anon, hope it's been fun setting it all up.
Painted up the clan portion of Scouring Sands. Need to find the time to go over the rules and play my first game of it. Last time I've played AS using a tape and terrain was more than a decade ago.
>>98472112If you want you can play it as Classic. Interpreting the cards in real bt instead of alpha strike works just as well, as the cards basically give suggestions in order of priority and require a human to interpret them anyway
>>98472123Sure, but I shower regularly, I've touched a woman in the last 10 years who wasn't related to me, and I'm under 60 years old...so what do I have to do with classic? It's a dead game for a dying demographic. Alpha Strike is the only way to play in the BT universe now, so it's AS I'll be refreshing myself on.
What's the best mech if I want to shit out as many MRMs as possible?
>>98472157The Catapult K5 and Crusader 5K are your benchmarks to beat, as both of them bring 60 tubes on a 4/6 heavy chassis and have a pair of medium pulse lasers for backup. They're weirdly similar, really.
>>98472157What the other anon said, but consider the Orion MC too. -10 MRM but you get an LBX10 so y'know, worse for your theme but still pretty good
What's your favorite quad?I like the Revenant
>>98472157There's an Archangel with 80 tubes. If you're okay with not being a mech, there's a Demolisher with 90.
>>98472157how many Raptor OEs do you want to bring?
>>98472157Kodiak II 3 has two MRM-40s with Apollo, and an LB/X-20.It also costs 115 million C-bills because someone thought a 400XXL engine was worth putting in a unit under any circumstances ever.
>>98472212Tarantula
>>98472212G R E A T T U R T L E we are never getting off the experimental list
>>98472221Something about a blake mech with MRMs makes me feel all sorts of ways.MRM sunder iirc is 70 tubes?
>>98467945its a fucking cool game. the reason i have played it off and on since i got it in the early 2000s is i always learn some new shit about it. its a really deep game surprisingly. but it can be hard to find information on without some digging because its such an old game and was so niche. my advice would be to use cheat codes for extra resources, and just experiment a bit in the skirmish mode. i think you can use those in campaign also. when it makes sense--utilize the defense relay posts because if you pay attention, your buildings get a large defense boost if theyre in those glowing defense ring borders. for example place some of your anti air turrets in these so they have way more durability. huge pro tip. you need to chain the defense relays all the way back to a home base. when you click on your home base the green ring around it is the defense ring and the defense relays merely extend that force field outwards.i cant remember if you select your unit with right click or left click but as a kid i got filtered and thought my game was broken because i was doing whatever the opposite one was kek. i learned a lot about the game over the years more in highschool and college.there was supposedly just recently a break through where someone thinks they found out how to remove the unit cap in the game. in normal 1 v1 play you would never hit it, but today on a modern PC if you tried to make a skirmish game between you and like 5 other AI, you all share the same unit pool cap supposedly. so whoever gets their units out first gets them out. i think its 256.also btw some times dont be afraid to just end a skirmish or a level that is in a stalemate and start over. if you arent aggressive enough, sometimes because of the battle being in 3 different battlegrounds at once, it can be really tedious to win if the enemy is super entrenched and has a better resource pool than you by a large amount.
>metal fatigue mentionedWHAT YEAR IS IT
>>98472305A rotten year to be reliant on CGL producing.
>>98472305>metal fatigue known
>>98472142You sure got em kid. Those uncs will be reeling and spitting mad when they get done playing the game and reading actual content in the thread and make their way to your immaculate shitpost.Also, refreshing yourself on AS? It's Alpha Strike, what rules did you manage to fucking forget? Commander's Edition is only about 200 pages long and most of it is supplemental material.
>>98472170>K catapult>No PPCdishonorabu
I want to have SEX with the charger
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>>98472212AT what now? Never heard of it.
>>98472425Blake's balls that is fucking ugly
>>98472499And it's my favorite anyway.
Mechwarrior dark age guy here it looks like the game is roughly N scale do you guys have any cool papercraft for terrain for that? or good 3d printed shit?
>>98472532That's not ok. Pick a better unit.
>>98472637The Battlefield in a Box terrain fits very well with MechWarrior. Enjoy the game, it's great and I LOVE it :)
I bought the ACES box. Once it gets here I will be automating a bunch of fights so no one can complain I am being Biased.
>>98472687>flips every single gun to the rear arc and donkey kicks you uglily
>>98472425>>98472532Quite a jaunty little strut it's got thing on there. Can almost imagine it busting out a musical number.
>>98472764I like this. The ruined cathedrals fit with the Combine's persecution of Christians, or at least New Avalon Catholics.
>>98472797christ and the dragon are allies. catholicism is just satanism. Catholics insist their 'pope' is king on earth under heaven. they insist the catholic church have temporal power and rulership that it is necessary, that no one may even speak to god but through them.A complete fucking denial of what Christ came to tell us.
>>98472212>>98472232>>98472236>>98472425I have an acquaintance whose Thing is quads and I just do not get it at all, not even a little bit
>>98471086I feel bad that I didn't immediately point out that you mispelled Ayumu "Banana Bread" Jone's first name in the spreadsheet you posted earlier.
>>98472838i think they CAN be cool, i think i use those sometimes in armored core in fringe situations and other mech games where i need a higher weight limit and dont need something like wheels or treads for a shit load of weight. i think its good for medium mechs maybe.what i think does look retarded is gundam made a new spin off universe a year or two back where they made a DOM but it had an extra leg that folded out behind it making it a tripod and that will always look worse than quad leg robots.there is an XBOX original game called phantom crash that had some weird shit in it where they also had 6 or 8 leg things i think. i cant remember what its advantage was.i think in that game four leg ones can maybe jump higher than 2 legs or osmething.
>>98472764i need to find some group to play this eventually. these miniatures have SOUL. any idea where there could be a group of people online who are knowledgeable about the clix line to talk to?
can i get a QRD on the christian vs catholic thing?
>>98472921btw not a shitpost, i was in catechism(sp??) classes growing up, but that was like 2 decades ago and i dont remember any of it and havent been to church since 2008 or something.
>>98472921the whole point of christs missionary here on earth was to show us we don't NEED a priest, a church etc, that we can just pray to god as is, then to show us just how much, he went and showed us how to die, defeat death and have life everlasting. abrogating the old testament covenants etc as superfluous. he showed us how the bible already shows us how to live a good and just life, in grace, that we may live forever after 'death'.then the catholics come along, with their 'pope' an earthyl king, claiming supremacy over all, including god, to the point of claiming that ANYTHING a pope does is godly, no matter how vile,, evil or degenerate. such as the previous pope having gay twerkoff tranny crossdressing freaks have big gayoff pride parades at the vatican FFS. such as the vatican bank being the most evil, usurious corrupt fucking thieving monstrous cunts there ever was. etc.they also demand allegiance to the church/. not christ. they interject themselves and even attempt to insinuate you need a priest to talk to god. etc.they're a satanic perversion of the given word of god. they're literally just the modern day pharisses. a bunch of power drunk and power mad satanists who a lying with scripture to hold on to any power they can get.hell just look at last, last pope. that german was going to distract the world from investigations into the vatican banks's fraud and crimes, by handing over EVERY nonce priest the catholic church is protecting. he was going to defrock them, excommunicate them, AND have them handed to the law.instead he was in a totally unprecedented move, un-pope'd incarcerated by the new pope and basically starved to death in a cell. new pope is the (last pope now) who started going full ham on the faggot shit and tranny shit, while convieniently pretending to know nothing of the NONCE kid raping epidemic. he's dead now, and they have latest pope, too early to tell what that psycho lefty hippie fucker is going to do.
>>98472895all cope and not a single valid fact in the postif you love god so much, kill yourself and meet him sooner, and leave the rest of us in peace. I assure you, you will not be missed
>>98472972suicide is a mortal sin. a heinous corruption of the soul.
>>98473020that's literally the rules of hospitality, which are granted so long as they're not abused. they predate christ, he just gave his blessing to them.and again, doesn't apply to invading hordes, you giant fuckstick.
How are you faggots this dogshit at talking about Battletech in the Battletech thread?
>>98473163silence, mechwarrior clanners are talking. close your mouth and open your ears and (you) may learn something, freeborn.
>>98473258Whatever clan claims you is lesser for the mistake. Request a Hunchback for your next deployment and restore what little honor you still can.
>>98473266Our space fairing mobile megachurch is in possession of an abundance of C-bills, we all have atlas's to start with but if we get other members to join we can trade that in for something better
>>98473286You insult the Great Father with your doomsday cult, merchant. Take your relics to your deaths. They are stained by your dezgra behavior.
>>98473298oh please, do one, you soulless flesh golem, you skinwalker daemon. everyone knows clanners aren't even human, no divine spark, nothing.
NEW BREAD! And before this topic is auto-archived for once.>>98473336>>98473336>>98473336
>>98472838Sometimes you just want to run weird little guys. also side stepping is genuinely helpful if you're playing in caves or inside a factory or some other cramped nonsense where JJs aren't allowed
>>98469234Makes me wonder if the Anime AU (supposed to be the Clan one) gonna be not!Majestic Prince
>>98469373How did you get it so fast? Scanned the physical book or something?
>>98470758You need to get this shit. Seriously.
