Previous: >>98456833Beanmouth Adult-Sitcom Look edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Gay Bolashttps://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>tqDo you know anyone that's genuinely excited for this set?
>>98460091I like that he looks like the ancap ball
where's the FNaF set?
>>98460091MODS THE FURFAGGOT KEEPS LINKING TO FURRY PORN ON A BLUE BOARD
>>98460091idk the stargoy lore. Is this supposed to be like the spaceship version of a subway molester
>>98460091The mystery booster shit was far more offensive than this
>>98460110BUZZ LOOK FURRY PORN
>>98460126Evil AI basically. It's from the shitty Rick & Morty star trek show.
>>98460108Where's the amazing digital circus set?
>>98460162this is more likely than anyone here is willing to admit
>>98460149anu in universe set is. I'm glad it's becoming more and more contained so it's hard to get
>>98460169I unironically put it at a 50% of some TADC lair by the end of the year. A set isn't doable.
>>98460110>"Furry Porn">Look inside>It's just snippets of an mtg storyDamn faggot, you insecure.
Is it even possible to design a 5c commander that:>Justifies its 5c identity>Isn't generic slop
>>98460201Yes? You have a low IQ if you think all 5c decks are just "slop" because they have access to all colors.
>>98460206May I see it?
>>98460153Where?
>>98460157oh I think I saw like an episode of that midAF but so is the IP in general. Who even watches startrek that isn't like 50 literally the only people I know who even kind of like it are my parents.>>98460184neither was there enough in spiderman to make a good set where theirs corporate greed there's a way to make slop
I need a faggot reading on a scale of 1-10 for anyone you'd like in this green text>ok guys, lets aim for turn 7~ at the earliest>its turn 5 marvo, where with clones, he's casting 6 spells every time he wins a clash>20 minute solitaire win on turn 5, concede to boredom/extra turns>k>'ok lets go for turn 7'>its turn 5 and an opponent has 10+ value engines, finale of devastation, 15 foods/clues/treasure tokens as 7/7s with walls of basingse equipped with greaves >declines to cast craterhoof behemoth, casts one ring instead>k>play muddle, which is stronger 3>gets kill 3 times in an hour long game to single target removal, with two opponents have gigantic board states and clear kill on sight engines and intentionally not winning on turn 4>I can't keep more than one non land permanent in a round>'ok guys lets do turn 5 now lol'>turn 1 improvisational capstone (chrome mox, sol ring, jeska's will) into dark deal and prismari (storm count 5), then mox opal into reanimate jin gitaxis>they kvetch about that was toxic
>>98460208Sure, go look at a five color 14th doctor deck or something.
>>98460201The new 5C Mechtitan derivative will clear both
>>98460220Spider-Man unironically has enough content for a full set. Do you not remember the anon that named like 250 potential Spider-Man cards when questioned about it before the set came out?(That doesn't change that the set actually was shit because it was shifted from small set to big set, but it was doable.)
>>98460220Spider-Man had far more fore it than hobbit>60 year old franchise with like 5000 comicsvs>300 page bookEven a 9 ep series is more content than a 300 page book.
Would this work?>Standard of Modernity, 1WUBRG>Legendary Creature - Advisor Horror>Rulebreaker - A card with this commander has a maximum deck size of 60. Up to 4 copies of nonland cards of any type and any lands may be included in the deck.>Eminence - This card cannot leave the command zone.> 1/60
>>98460226That's a partner deck and one of the partners is "good guy so 4c without black" while the other is a generic trigger doubler.
>>98460243I think we'd have to figure out what you even mean by slop. We must assume you are operating on the idea all 5C decks must shove in every staple even though it would violate the rules.
>>98460201>Justified the 5 colorsThere are dozens>Aren't generic slopNvm, your mind is too rotten.
>>98460225Are we having a repeat of how you saved tons of cards depicting gay people onto your hard drive that you feel a need to bring up constantly, and according to you that's normal behavior for straight people?
>>98460201Yes there are bracket 2 5 color decks.
>>98460184>PomniIt's just some generic R/U slop that draws cards or something because her costume is red and blue>JaxSome burn/wither effect that's oppressive on paper but too overcosted to do anything. Also nets you treasure when something dies.>Ragatha/GangleGeneric G/W because they're hardly characters>KingerDraws practically your entire deck if you somehow get him flipped upside down. Because deckbuilding is hard for the iPad toddlers that watch the show, it also has some built-in effect that lets you flip it whenever you draw your second card each turn, but also tracks it as the same game object. It seems overpowered, but it's so convoluted and autopilot-y nobody wants to play it.>CaineDiscovers from excess damage and scrying. Takes control of a player when he deals combat damage for the first time each game to them.>Disappearing Man (BONUS!)Norin but blue, phases instead of bounces, and draws a card when he phases in
>that deleted postUh oh someone's mad
>>98460251>>98460254What I mean in this context is strictly Kenrith-style "1 ability that directly correlates to each color"Generic is fine, but from what I've noticed is a lot of WUBRG activated abilities are Majestic Genesis-style abilities (i.e. Temur, so B/W isn't necessary), and other commanders like Child of Alara don't really need Izzet in their identity. They're usually 5c for a reason unrelated to their effect (either a character lore reason, or because they want it to be an onboarding commander)
>>98460201what about a 5 color demon that penalizes you for each color of spell in graveyard/permanent on battlefield but has a strong effect.so like the player could choose which of the 5 colors they want to run but there is a trade off for each color they actually use.I also think a 5color color change commander would be fun. Basically just a card where you can run all the color matters cards and the commander can make things every color or maybye vs choose a color and makes all permanents that color or something.
>>98460277Gangle should be Izzet because Izzet is the color combo of art.
>>98460294I think from a commander standpoint it posits an interesting question but gameplay-wise that could be monoB.
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>>98460278We know bolasfag has jannies on his side from the time he spammed multiple threads to image limit during a tard tantrum and got away with it
>Been running Amy in my deck for a while now>Mostly because it's really nice that she can let me skip the equip cost for my equipment>Someone uses Stoneforge Mystic to cheat out Kaldra Compleat>Only then do I realize that Amy's ability doesn't say "target equipment [you control]"
>>98460308Could be Selesnya or Bant.
>>98460277You know waaaay to much about that show to not be a tranny
>>98460277>CaineHe'd be a 5c adventure commander. We don't actually have that as a thing yet.
>>98460310Is this like how the gays are secretly puppeting MtG to psyop you into thinking about them constantly?
>>98460316It was a really popular show, anon. I think its first episode has like 100 times the amount of views as all magic content creator videos combined.
>>98460316I've only seen two episodes and read /co/ threads, but the fact that me talking out of my ass results in something plausible says all it needs to about how generic a lot of UB designs are.
>>98460330You do know there's archive right?
>>98460336>I think its first episode has like 100 times the amount of views as all magic content creator videos combined.Children and trannies are not a group you should aspire to be part of
>>98460110>>98460225>>98460310
>>98460339idk anon keeps sounding to me like all you do is think about gays and trannies. At some point you have to admit it's an obsession.
>>98460350>500 million tranniesThat's a lot of trannies!
>>98460330yes, they put them on the cards constantly to remind us
>>98460316Anon I'll be the first to say TADC isn't very good but you can hardly act surprised someone knows about the main characters from a popular webshow.
>>98460359They're about 0.1% of western population (no global data, as you'd expect), so yeah that's actually about right if you extrapolate a bit
>>98460367I listened to 2 guys live react to the first 5 episodes and even I don't know the fucking character names anon
This thread is already off to a great start
to think he already got his glorfied ritualpost in the OP and he's still mad kekw
>>98460378You may be one of them ipad kiddies
>>98460356>idkyes that's exactly the problem
>>98460378You're also literally retarded.
>>98460378>He watches reaction slop>He watched five episodes' worth about reactionslop to a free internet cartoon
>>98460398>>98460422>if you don't care about my troonslop enough to remember names then you must be stupid!Trannies actually think this lol
>>98460434Anon if you were willing to watch 5 episodes of someone else reacting to the show without liking it, don't you think someone with better memory might have done the same but actually remembered basic details about the main characters?
Going on a reading rainbow
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98460201All of the Shadowmoor scarecrows cared about having certain colored permanents on the board, by being 5c Reaper King is the big payoff to make sure all of those color matters cards work.
>>98460434>Watched five episodes of react slop>Can't remember a single name>Cries about tranniesLiteral retard behavior.
>>98460450>Anon if you were willing to watch 5 episodes of someone else reactingIt was 2 episodes, they binged them>remembered basic details about the main characters?It is total trash and not worth remembering. I will look down on anyone who dedicates brain space to it
>>98460524>Has to dedicate brain spaceRetarded AND Autistic, good for you.
>>98460201How do you make the most generic deck ever?I'm thinking Kenrith + the top 100 cards from EDHREC and just slam them in
>>98460522I mean the show IS made by a tranny.
>>98460531>he thinks his memory is infiniteWhat exact outfit were you wearing on November 2nd 2018 anon?
take a look at this gordon
>>98460544what a fucking gay set
>>98460556Less gay then half the cards being dogs or goblins with retarded names like "UGLY ASS GOBLIN"
>>98460544Based. A welcome edition to my "literally just animals" bracket 1.
>>98460524>It was 2 episodes, they binged themWho cares? You still watched over an hour of reactslop of someone watching tranny shit.Let me guess, you did it "iroonically?"
>>98460593>he doesn't do things ironically to show how little he caresgay
>>98460598The only difference between someone who smashes their dick with a hammer "intentionally" and someone who does it "ironically" is that the former at least knows what he's doing and isn't a coward about it. Meanwhile with "irony" you still end up a dickless loser, except now everyone knows you care what they think of you enough to make up some cope.
>>98460593>Who cares? You still watched over an hour of reactslop of someone watching tranny shit.>Let me guess, you did it "iroonically?"Why would I have to ironically watch someone shitting on a bad show? It would only be "ironic" if I just straight up watched the show, which I didn't.Tranny has twisted himself into such seething knots because someone shit on his show
>>98460313>>Only then do I realize that Amy's ability doesn't say "target equipment [you control]"Wtf I never noticed that either that's fucked lol>>98460378Was one of them a malder wigger and the other a 400lb landwhale?
>>98460628Tranny bait-and-switch > reactslopSorry.
Sorry, didn't see the new thread.Who wins in a fight between Hatsune Miku and Star Trek?
>>98460628>>98460657Oh my god will you two shut the fuck up no one cares
Dick suckers
>>98460162Is this a trans show or what can i get a QRD?
Watching idiots argue through meaningless buzzwords is painful.
>>98460693all I know a tranny acks theymselves at the end so it's based
>>98460693It was made by a tranny and they ended up turning the most popular character into a tranny (albeit through a social media post.) So if that is your criteria then yes.Now look at my Worf.
>>98460696I blame UB
>>98460715There is nothing about this that needs to be legendary.
>>98460728Worf is a named character.
>>98460730You take away "Worf" and this can just be a tactical officer. I don't know shit about Star Trek admittedly, but this is just draft chaff that's legendary.
>>98460742It's a welcome deck card.
>>98460091>>98460460>>98460544>>98460715I hate this so much man
>>98460753I find it less offensive than "BIG FAT SMELLY SPIDER" the card>but TolkienThe Hobbit was a bad book.
>>98460746...But it still the power and complexity of a typical chaff card and doesn't need to be legendary.
>>98460544Based as hell and I'm being completely unironic. I wish I had an entire deck of just literal sea creatures instead of monsters.>>98460580Hell fucking yes.
How do you deal with your game's unique setting turning into a rapetoy oozing cum from every conceivable IP out of its holes?
>>98460765legendary doesn't automatically mean complex and powerful
>>98460781By not having any issue with that fact
THAT'S A LOT OF LIGHT YEARS
>>98460580oh yeah it's coming together alright
>>98460781Have you tried not being a Spike full of compulsion to play with power optimized sloppa and instead play with cards you actually enjoy like Johnny and Timmy?
>>98460782Those were powerful for the time, and they also haven't been the standard for legendary creatures for over 15 years.
>>98460544They just had to throw a fucking xwing in there huh? Otherwise chuds would forget it was freaking SPACE WARS
>>98460819Back in those times literally NO creatures were powerful you fucking retard.
>>98460819>powerful for the time>when it's just a fancy craw wurmhow new are you?
>>98460830"NO creatures were powerful" by what measure? Oh, right. Modern standards. Shut the fuck up.
>>98460819>powerful>for the time>6 total mana with 3 pips>for a 6/5>>98460851>Oh, right. Modern standardsretard lol
>>98460842Craw worm dies to anything in the "just outside of Lightning Bolt" threshold.
>>98460763cringe. just because LoTR/the hobbies mtg sucks doesn't mean the hobbit book sucks.t. hobbit lover, Hobbit UB hater>>98460781only play cards I like, proxying niche cards I feel like I need anyways to not have slop IPs.
>>98460851so in that light wouldn't draft chaff legends actually be a good thing since we've been inundated with powercreep since 2019 FIRE design?
>>98460860The hobbit book does suck. LOTR is good.It's like how Street Fighter 1 is an abysmal game yet SF2 is the GOAT
I like that we are getting new land gen, which is significantly better than mana source doublers (in terms of fairness). This guy could have been a wincon if he had trample or if the landfall ability granted Trample.
>>98460829NGL it's indistinct enough that it could be a thopter or something.
Post yfw when you are about to be knocked out of the game after being archenemy.
>>98460886
>>98460858>>6 total mana with 3 pipsSee, this is what I mean. You're LARPing like colorless mana was as freely available as it is now, save for Channel, or that people were running five color decks or decks where the pips mattered, like Shivan Dragon wasn't a powerhouse despite how badly it wanted you to invest in red mana.Meanwhile you take any of the legends of that set and they're better than an majority of the other creatures in that expansion. Again, those creatures aren't the standard for how we gauge legends today, but even in your retarded genetic fallacy, your argument is still gay and retarded.And mind you all of this is so you can simp for a 2/3 french vanilla that's already a downgrade from existing commons, downgraded further because it's UB and needs to be named for no good reason.
>>98460851No, by the standards of all the fucking Instants and Sorceries and Artifacts that blew creature based strategies out of the water you dumbass. Ironic that you would call me Modern brained when you're the retard acting like creature damage is the normal way to win.
>>98460864Peter Jackson has done irreparable damage to the modern man
>>98460886depends on how salty
>>98460861FIRE's problem is that by pushing the ceiling for commons, it leads to a cascading effect where higher rarity cards need to be more splashy and powerful. A random chaff card in a welcome deck to that end is good, but it doesn't need to be legendary.
>>98460947>>98460886or this if salty>>98460864nah I still really like it it's one of my fav books.In someways I like it better than LOTR it has more whimsy
>>98460313How does she usually play out for you? I've been considering a similar "take whatever equipment" commander in Shagrat but still haven't gotten around to building him. I imagine the two would have some overlap.
>>98460955>it doesn't need to be legendaryin the interest of reducing power level it has to be legendary then because there is nothing inherently beneficial about it it's like sorcery being worse instants through and thorugh
This is dumber than the KHAAAAAN card desu
>>98460765Welcome decks are usually full of this kind of shit. Very simple card selections and simple legends too.
>friends all get into MTG>play EDH>pretty fun>all buy precons >played some arena, like izzet >decide to buy prismari precon instead of marvel>have fun, decide to not go for win but to stall so people can do their big thing>everyone had fun>go home and read Rootha lore>realize theres way more lore for SoSH than i assumed>ohitspeakI get the hate for UB now, I was always kinda complicit because it "gets new players in" in a way. I didnt think magic lore was that crazy, but this is some good shit anons. I will now build a second commander deck thats jank for fun. Thank you Rootha Squallheart. Id like to build a Pharika commander deck, but it seems super expensive. Besides proxying are there any other cheap ways to get the bulk id need? Is buying another Golgari precon and swapping in cards the cheapest way?
>>98460916>Yes, some decks played creatureless strats. Therefore, ALL decks did!Come on, faggot. Even three years after the game released creatureless decks were willing to slot in a Steel Golem just for combat interaction.
>>98460965guys is emrakul sokka's first gf?
>>98460900Yes just because a handful of legends were better than the absolute dogshit creatured they were printing doesn't mean that a 6 mana vanilla was not bad. Yes they were "strong" compared to other creatures but creatures were unbelievably weaker than anything else you could reasonably be doing
>>98460795>nick mullen Ensign Kim is chinese.mov
>>98460972Ok, glad we agree? What are you even trying to argue about at this point? What you posted literally proves that I was right.
>>98460968>go home and read Rootha lorenow imagine that for every one like you who bothers there are a hundred that don't even bother because like it or not appearances matter and the art direction is just one of many things people hate about UW
>>98460985It's pasta, bro. Just ignore it.
>>98460962A 2/3 with vigilance for 2W at common isn't so game breaking by even NWO standards that it warrants further downgrade. There's even 1/3s for the same cost that have evasion from pre-NWO.
>>98460991>A 2/3 with vigilance for 2W at common isn't so game breakingbut a 2/2 flying first striker is game breaking enough to be rare and rl so really this just a return to the old days
all of you do realize it's a starter deck card, right?
>>98460987Hey im real :(>>98460983Yea. I figure a lot of people dont engage with this type of stuff, which is super sad now that I see just how much there is. Not only are there story blog post, but also audio versions on YT. Its crazy, I didnt think the lore was that deep. Granted I only played arena and had talked about Thunderjunction and Aetherdrift with a friend, and i didnt find those interesting at all. Besides chandra looking hot in that suit. I almost feel bad wanting to buy a FF precon now, but i really like FFX. Will def think about it, since playing UW is more interesting to me now. Im only upset ill have to wait forever to ever see more lore of my commander. Im also shocked the first strix haven lore was 2021 and then it just continued in april. Is that how it normally goes?
>>98461006please understand some anon here is defending the honor of the legendary supertype
>>98460968>go home and read Rootha lore>This is some good shitFrom my experience it's been the complete opposite. The time I've liked a card enough to read whatever was going on with the character I find out the character has only a few sentences to their existence or the story they had was mediocre at best and it dissuaded me from wanting to bother with them.
>>98460977>Yes just because a handful of legends were better than the absolute dogshit creatured they were printing doesn't mean that a 6 mana vanilla was not badDo you want to try that again? How are youso confidently going from "yes, all the creatures were bad, except those ones were better" to "Those creatures are still bad!" You're jumping from admitting my point to trying to backpedal it without even giving judgment to what exactly a "good" creature is.The stupid part is that you could hae actually made a semi-good point if you dropped this stupid LARP and pointed out that a non-legend card from Legends helped actually win worlds in 1994, because having a damage engine on the board, surprise surprise, is usually better than not having one.>>98460983And stop samefagging too. Your wannabe-gotcha doesn't even make any sense. You're just flagrantly trying to go "NUH UH I'M RIGHT" without making an argument.
>>98461013>Besides chandra looking hot in that suitawful bait, made me reply
>>98461006>>98461019Capitalize your posts if you're going to self-fellatio.
Hopefully the first monk of many.
>>98461013>Hey im real :(Why have I seen you post that same story like three times then? I feel like every regular has seen it by now.
>>98460996Stop being retarded.
>>98461031How is creatureless decks eventually slotting in Steel Golem to counter ancient Timmys supposed to contradict my original statement that creatures were low enough power to be entirely ignored by some people in the beginning? You are literally accepting that those decks did in fact exist by saying this. Fucking ESLs.
>>98461035I had her goggles in tf2 and like tight suits, it works for me!>>98461023Yea I think i got lucky as she THE main character but has significant enough of a role and 2 short stories centering around her. Quint is seemingly the main character as he makes a sacrifice and becomes a planeswalker and goes off doing other things. I like Pharika, but i can see she has pretty much 0 lore. Granted shes from 2014 and is only kinda viable due to more recent cards supporting her coincidentally afaik. Id still like my second commander deck to be her i think
>>98460886what if I'm never the archenema but still get knocked up first every time?
>>98461070Think about your post for two seconds: why would a deck that would otherwise not bother with a creature suddenly even want to consider running a creature? What would it benefit them?
>>98461056this dies to mogg fanatic that's why it's commonmeanwhile worf can tank it np
>>98461054I have posted it once before, last night after I played, in the normal mtg thread because I wanted to talk about UW lore and ask questions. No one replied though, which I get since it was like 2am and also a post about EDH and not a direct post about UW story stuff. I still want to read a lot more of the stories and UW stuff to see all the stuff ive missed. It does feel like most stories are usually something about Phyrexians or dragons though.
>>98461086Just because counterplay exists does not mean the play it's countering is objectively good. Learn English.
>>98461096And what, pray-tell, is a 3/4 for 3 counterplaying if all it does other than block is stop you from casting creature spells?Think long and hard on this one you stupid LARPing faggot.
>>98460543That isn't what's being implied at all, my autistic friend.
>>98461107>hurr durr why would preventing Timmy from casting creatures help against creature strategiesRetard.
>>98461118Please read Steel Golem before continuing the next act of your roleplay.
She is closing in.
social experiment: how good would this card be?
>>98461186If this got printed whitoids would be kvetching for years about how they get nothing and they're the weakest color
>>98461186Bait
>>98461186retard
>>98461168Total UB victory imminent.
>>98461186I can see wizards printing this at some point, but costing UG and without that last clause ofc
>>98461214Please read the card before continuing the next act of your roleplay.
>>98461168She's a better designed card than both of the fat eminence fucks tbqh fampaiIf she reaches number one she will have deserved it
>>98460184If my stupid retard chud clown daughter gets a card I'll buy it
>>98461186Rampant Growth is perfectly playable as is, transforming it into a cantrip that ALSO slows your opponents down would be absurd
>>98461366i unironically want more three visits/nature's lore
>>98461338She'll get a reskin of a card that makes no sense for her
Magic peaked here btw
>>98460091No, I forgot it even existed for a while there. Mystery booster was a welcome surprise, but otherwise thought it was just reality fracture for the rest of the year.
>>98461382>tribalah, the good old days
>>98460201I have a dungeon delver + gates deck that needs all 5 colors and is pretty unique in it.https://manabox.app/decks/gK_MMIJPQfaEL7P32-O2dA
>>98461382With how insanely popular tribal commander decks are it really shows how immensely retarded Wizards is for not making decks like these all the time.
>>98461382Bait, but at least it's new bait.
>>98461168The power of a boring and laxy commander.
>>98461186>>98461207>>98461208>>98461214>>98461247>>98461366SIKE!!!this card already exists and nobody plays itin fact it can even fetch for duals or triomes
>>98461433>Be rewarded now, or sometime down the lineThere's a big difference here anon.
>>98461433pfft right and this is totally 100% the same as ancestral recall
>>98460959She's fun and leads to weird combos, but the people I play with tend to not run equipment all that much, usually nothing other than Boots or Greaves.I actually have also been running Yuffie in the same deck, and put her in just in case I was ever up against a mirror match, but I've really only been taking mana rocks with her while smacking people with my own equipment.
>>98461433As a social experiment, you proved you're illiterate.
>>98461168I wonder what percent of that is fun lifegain.
>>98461186>Ramp to 4 mana on turn 3>Slows down noncreature spells for one rotation, regardless of how many were cast, doubling as a potential tax to slow a combo table for one rotation>Immediate cantrip into card advantage >>98461433>Ramp one mana ahead on turn... who knows because it's not guaranteed to proc off before your next turn>Only shuts down the next three spells cast; can't be used as a reliable late game tax after first player powers through it>Can be Naturalized before it even does anything>No immediately card advantage in using itYou're kinda stupid, anon.
>>98461462There's tons of illiterate people here, it's /tg/ dude. I don't know why but tons of them exist here just to be smug about how wrong they can be.
>>98461407No room for tribal when they need squeeze in all the lgbt and bipoc tribes in first for cards.
>>98461446It fucks with me she'd go great in a ninjas and equipment deck I'm putting together, but since she's red she's out of color identity for Noctis and I can't find a better commander that actually engages with the ninjutsu/sneak gameplan.
>>98461379It's literally right there now though...
>>98460868>planet without stationso we can get spaceships that are just creatures?
>>98461488yshtola cat tribal where you use everything in your power to make her an exceptionally fat pridemate
>>98460656>Was one of them a malder wigger and the other a 400lb landwhale?One of them runs a gossip forum and the other tard wrangles a coke head.Part 3 to youtube never.
Wait, this card is actually good? I thought it was an oh no no no
>>98461566Fuck
>>98461571>your shit comes in tapped or i get free bodiesIn what world would that be bad?
which Lorehold version is more fun to play?
>>98461577I tap it. Oh no. Blind Obedience isn't exactly winning any awards lmao.
>>98460091>tqno I don't know anyone excited for Star Trek but the leaked cards I've seen are silly AF. I like the idea of an evil glitch and just watched some YouTube video related to it, and thats funthe evil twin of Data is a funny meme can't wait to see what card that gets. of course Capt Kirk fucking green women will be fun to see how that's represented. also the black guy with the visor and the paralyzed captain of the X men who's in Star Trek (Picard?) might have something coolI saw some black card that looks good. I'm all for good cards.
>>98461587>yeah lemme just be a turn behind constantlyTapped creatures can't block anon. Tapped artifacts won't produce any mana. You're casting spells to not have any use of them for a rotationAuthority of the Consuls is another white staple for the exact same reason
>>98461564>giving your money to jawsh and lard just to watch them flirt with each other and watch cartoonsCome on man that's money you could've wasted on packs
>>98461623>giving your money to jawsh and lardI literally just said. Parts 1 and 2 are on youtube for free, but it's been literal months now so it's looking like Part 3 never
>>98460308shouldn't it be permanent of multicolor
>>98460308>No slop>posts slop
>>98461626That's even worse man I stopped being to listen to jawsh fantasize about trannies and bbc a long time ago>>98460315Tbh I would've played it if it was
>>98460781>unique setting Magic was never unique. It started as generic fantasy references then rapidly switched to multiverse slop. Stop crying about UB you fucking cringe manchild.
>>98461578The first oneAll the dragons in the following set are lazy shit design.
>>98460800But I enjoy cards from the magic ip (before modern shite).
>>98461510Her being the only red ninjutsu card is a big deal for me, because I've always liked the mechanic but never enjoyed playing the colors it came in.
fuuuuck man unban my nigga
it's insane how much easier it is to brew decks now with chatgpt than it was 4-5 years ago just by myself
Do I buy it off Ebay seller now for $19.50 AUD (13.76 USD) presale or wait might be cheaper?
>>98461642>That's even worse>youre dumb to give them money!!!>i didnt give them money>thats even worse somehow!why are you determined to be mad?
>>98461668just buy chinese fakes for cents why are you fags still giving wotc money
>>98461674we go to jewish stores that will call you anti semitic if you use a proxy
>>98461664christ isn't it ridiculous that this card is still banned in 2026? thanks sheldon!
>>98461674but my goreclaw deck needs more win more cards and dancing bears anon! dancing bears!!!
>>98461664Soon
>>98461679I hate stax but I hate blue players even more so I support this
>>98461679MLD btw
>>98461407For being a profit obsessed corporation it sure is funny how bad WotC is at giving people what they want. Of course the real reason is that Gavin and the rest are faggot inmates running the asylum who keep making cards for decks they like.
>>98461446>people I play with tend to not run equipment all that much, usually nothing other than Boots or Greaves.That's what I was sort of figuring as well. Seemed like it's matchup dependant if you really get to nab anything. But cheating equipment costs sounded good anyway. Probably a lot better with white than black since white has additional payoffs to equipment, but making an army with his trigger seems cool for Shagrat anyway. Yuffie being able to nab any noncreature artifact does look like a good call. Even against equipment light decks, they usually run some artifact that's doing work on the board.
>>98461690>>98461694it was a random image from my folder its not in my goreclaw deck.
>>98461674Why support china to play pretend?Just write it on a piece of paper in a sleeve. If proxies don't matter, why pay anything, retard.
>>98461705>he says, on an electronic device made up of components created in China while wearing clothes made in China while sitting on a chair or sofa made in China talking about a game whose cards material components are made of things created in China Good job sticking it to the Chinese by using looseleaf and ink (both made in China) and sticking it in a sleeve! (That was made in China)
>>98461716lmao destroyed
>>98461703>cast this >opponents now can't play board wipes because MLD is bracket 4>if they do I automatically win because they aren't following the rules of the bracket
>>98461705why are you pretending you don't understand the value of a well-made, undetectable chinese proxy?
>>98461721gavin specifically allows this though as long as someone else is doing the boardwiping and not you
>>98461722why are you pretending you don't understand the value of a well-made, functions-exactly-by-the-rules custom card?
>>98461716.5 Yuan has been deposited into your account and your social credit score has gone up by .03%
Probably a bad place for it but how's this deck looking?The Hobbit set looks mid and blatantly themed in certain directions but I wanted to do a fun deck off of it and not have a lot of glaring flaws. https://archidekt.com/decks/24902099/for_dale
>>98461775>you thoroughly destroyed my talking point so I'll just pretend you're a silly billy so I don't have to acknowledge it!
how do we stop the landfall menace
what am I supposed to do against this?
>>98461797It is the first thing that 3 players will aim a removal spell at, so it probably just dies.
>>98461797laugh at 7 MV
>>98461804my table is to casual and canadian so we have to politely spread our damage around evenly and not "target" anyone, basically just let fuckhead win with this deck.
>>98461696>Intentionally sabotaged the launch of their own Yugioh clone because they cannot fathom having 2 successful card games at once.>Lose their license with Pokemon, the biggest IP in the world, because they got so greedy they wanted full control over the game in the west.>Create intentionally bad products like the Planeswalker Decks because "if we made the cards good it would sell too well">Refuse to reprint the strongest cards from 30 years ago but still keep them legal in several official formats.It is genuinely a fucking miracle that WotC is still around today.
>>98461797Take the 1 damage from pathing him.
>>98461816>leafthat explains itleafs are hopeless and beyond saving
>>98461818It all comes down to having to actual competition. TCGs are too expensive and laborious for small companies to maintain anymore, and nerds are too conservative and sunk cost to actually seek non-magic alternatives.
Why don't they have artifacts that are just two mana that tap for one specific color and don't enter tapped? Is that really too strong?
>>98461797hit that nigga with the ol' elkamania
>>98461721Brackets are literally not rules.
>>98461407Blame players for constantly squawking about how boring tribal is when every time wotc does it.
>>98461818>Lose their license with Pokemon, the biggest IP in the world, because they got so greedy they wanted full control over the game in the west.with the benefit of hindsight can you really blame hasbro for trying to take it all, given how unambitiously stagnant pokemon is and how petty nintendo is that they'd spend more than triple the amount they spend on a mainline game just for a frivolous suit against palworld?
>>98460580Impeccably based, anon.
>>98461664Etali is still legal btw
>>98461843yeah just like the geneva suggestions
>>98461664Etali doesn't blow up lands and then ramp you for it.
>>98461856sylvan primordial doesn't pass gavin's mld definition so really he's still there because rule zero faggots get uppity, didn't you know that he called them out for whining about sundering titan possibly being unbanned?
>>98461013I love this Chandra but wish it had a home. Give us Greasefang but Mardu, wotc.
>>98461855Yeah exactly. Literally nobody is going to come after you for not following them.
>>98461861I don't think slyvan should be banned anymore. Blowing up 3 things to get 3 epxlicitly tapped forest isn't that strong, unless you turbo blink it, but turbo blink and do a bunch of bullshit with a bunch of things. I'm just saying its nothing comparable to etali.
>>98461867this but wbg
>>98461874of course because brackets are for people playing in public at the lgs and not for your basement
>>98461672Okay fine you got me but I still don't wanna give those fat fucks ad rev. Hard to respect and want to support a guy who so quickly works with a man who spent years calling him a pedophile, asston is fat and I would not have sex with him etc >>98461836Absolute classic love watching people forfeit after you elk their commander in brawl
>>98461891Really think the LGS is going to call the cops on me for dropping bloodmoon against precons? Get real.
>>98461891I don't follow brackets at the LGS either, nobody does other than outsiders from Reddit.
>>98461498or they could just give us skeleton yuri and the gay can go on the tribal>>98461667how Everytime I've asked AI for deck advice it starts rambling about cards that aren't even in the color identity it's so bad.>>98461675no ones going to know unless you make it super obvious by having a 10000 dollar deck or something. they make counterfeits that pass for the real thing unless you like really investigate them.>>98461792I feel like a hate bears or soft stax package would be good. thalia and friends delay them by slowing down their ramp spells. Aven mind sensor and leo arbiter don't let them search lands, if it's the land fall trigger itself something like hushwing gryff, or the recursion just pack grave hate.obviously all of these would be over kill unless your dedicated stax deck but running some of whatever kind don't really hurt your strategy sounds useful
>>98461897Sure thing mr. nogames.
>>98461894>>98461897it's all fun and games playing without a care until i take out a real deck and THEN people suddenly start kvetching
>>98461902Proxytards don't have selfcontrol. Every time you see a true dual you should just pull out a loupe and watch them sweat.
>>98461797Take out the player before he gets that seven mana value commander down? It's so expensive he'll likely only be able to be cast once. If the player even lasts that long.
>>98461902>how Everytime I've asked AI for deck advice it starts rambling about cards that aren't even in the color identity it's so bad.Talk to it for a bit. Tell it about yourself in terms of your playstyle and what you like to play and what you don't. It picks up on that very well. I just tell it stories about my play experiences with each deck I'm trying to upgrade or relate to a similar deck to the one I'm brewing.
>>98461845I've never heard this take except from like the pretentious your having fun the wrong way commander tuber mafia.Most people IRL just see a completely non tribal and go OMG you could make him X tribal.
>>98461906honestly this is my one gripe with proxying like my whole school friend group started allowing proxies and suddenly I couldn't play my decks I liked anymore because like suddenly people had like high power elf decks and such. You need a lot of self control to keep them from turning your casual game into not that. But I still like them because frick ptw and screw wotc
>>98461934>fuck ptwhating on wotc is fine but p2w is the lifeblood of every tcg and the fact that you are the lone guy w/ self control amongst your whole friend group is just proof that proxying only leads to cedh
>>98461792also discard might work who cares if they have a gorillion mana if they have no cards.
>>98461944Wizards reprint policy makes proxies completely justifiably. No other card game has this issues besides Magic.
Whoa, look at everyone's fields, everyone's got tons of monsters and other stuff, so scary!It must have taken more than two hours for everyone to build things up to this level, it's amazing!I bet everyone's only one turn away from finishing a combo and killing everyone!
>>98461958proxies have historically meant>'dude i can't find X card but i need to playtest, wanna play some games with a proxy? will buy asap'the issue has always been people breaking this nowadays, playing with og duals that they have no intention (or capability) of ever buying; it's a big ask to allow 'it's justified to fake cards because money problems' then suddenly say 'but please practice self-control guys', as if saving money for the card you want wasn't already the 'self-control test'also you may want to venture out to /ygo/ they hate konami's reprint policy too
>>98461836>>98461836Bro, this is exactly what I did last night. Everyone should have been sucking my dick but they were too occupied with harassing new guy who had nothing cooking but he was playing black so "scary threat". I was directly left of kaervak player so we had a whole round to beat him up in a five man game. competent friend STILL had only one mana on the field that far in, new guy black player had to keep his ass covered and based retard next to him attacked ME since he realized he hadn't hit me yet. I scooped and took kenrith with me and let them be killed by kaervak.
>>98460091>I le defaced le OP with an advertisement for my gay furry porn again xDDDDFake thread, not /tg/, shan't use.
all the mystery booster commanders are really fucking cool it turns out all they had to do was not be afraid to print a million words on every card and also to use their own ip instead of spongebob spiderman
>>98461978>proxies have historically meant>>'dude i can't find X card but i need to playtest, wanna play some games with a proxy? will buy asap'NTA, but you're painting with a broad brush there.People have always proxied with lots of different motivations, just like people play with lots of different motivations.Funnily enough, it's the guys who have the worst motivations who seem to dislike proxying the most, because these are the guys who will be spending thousands of dollars on cards and hope that they'll have a paywall advantage over the rest of the players.More importantly, they're also socially in a position where they need to be able to say "You can't be mad, all my cards are legal, I'm not breaking any rules" when the entire group starts to turn on them because they're bringing a griefer netdeck to a casual game.
>>98461958It's also one of the only games that has both active collector and player bases.
>>98461978>also you may want to venture out to /ygo/ they hate konami's reprint policy tooTCG YGO's aggressive reprints is one of the few good aspects of that branch of the game though
Has there ever been a card with more based reminder text?
>>98460763the Hobbit is good but more importantly being the prequel to LOTR its one of the foundational stories inspiring all modern high fantasy, from Dungeons and Dragons to Final Fantasy to Zelda to Elder Scrolls and yes of course, Magic: the Gathering. If Mirrodin, Zendikar, Dominia are 1st Party to magic, and marvel is 3rd party "universe beyond" really anything Tolkien is 2nd party since it directly inspired MTG. so quit complaining about a set that is basically in-universe high fantasy, but with Tolkien characters and locations. >>98460753I dont know shit about Star Trek but there is nothing wrong with those cards at all. The Humpback Whales one is 100% magic staying on flavor from 1994 (the Dark) like Stormtide Leviathan but with modern mechanics. In MTG there are many other cards that are just simply Earth animal species. youse guys are really compelling about a lot of non-bullshit
>>98460886this is my face when I'm the arch enemy and win with Toski
>>98461958It really doesn't. There isn't a need to buy RL cards or Uber expensive stables. There are budget versions of nearly every staple card in existence and every effect.There are magus of nearly every broken as fuck rl card for fuck sake.The reality is, people make it out to be that cards cost too much, or that reprints just don't happen enough, but what it really is, is that putting boots on the magus of the wheel or flipping growing rites is just a bridge to far for them.Larry beat them. If they just had cradle Larry wouldn't have beat them, so they proxy cradle. When in reality Larry beat them simply because he runs interaction.
>>98461891>>98461894randos in public dont even know what the beta test bracket system is half the timeso yes you can have blood moon in a mid power deck in most cases unless you happen to be paired with a literal reddit troon who reads ever GōtC post made by the "commander committee" (a group that should not exist since GōtC has no business interfering with commander)
>>98462099>There are budget versions of nearly every staple card in existence and every effect.Yes they are called proxies
>>98462099>you dont need the mechanically correct cards you can just buy the shittier versions of themNo other TCG has people saying retarded shit like this. I will proxy everything and you will kvetch
>>98462112You will never actually beat Larry
Stop using the term proxy in place of counterfeits.
>>98461934I mean desu magic was most fun when I didn't even know singles existed or what cards were even in the sets really. but now that the can is off those cookies like in my current group there are varying incomes and like I don't proxy that much other than to test things because I like the actual cards. I am tempted to just proxy because I'm willing to spend the least and like tired of my friends throwing a salt storm every time I lean into things like control to keep up with their more expensive decks.
>>98462121I love trading my Chinese counterfeits for peoples """real""" cards
>>98462112>Ad hom while perfectly proving the the pointWhomp-whomp
>>98462099>DUDE JUST USE BAD CARDS INSTEADFuck off you tremendous niggerfaggot. The fact that a delusional fuck like yourself would even suggest that already proves how shit WotC reprints are.
>>98462099>There are budget versions of nearly every staple card in existence and every effect.I have a friend who was complaining about his lands. He only had dual lands that came into play tapped, so he was always a step behind, and anyone who isn't coming in first might as well be coming in last place. In a game like Magic, something as simple as a card being 1 CMC less than another can mean a difference in price 50x higher, because that small difference can mean victory over defeat. For the guy with bad lands, he was convinced that if he had a $300 set of lands, he could have won every match that he otherwise lost because he had to wait a turn to pull something off.
>>98462121Counterfeits are something you are trying to pass as real. Proxies look blatantly fake because they are only being used as a substitute.
>>98462129nice larp, everyone buying money cards have loupes now>>98462108>>98462135>>98462140love it when these faggots wallow in my space to play cedh and i still stomp them lmao>uh no sir we only proxy weak cards to play casual!hahaha all that effort just to win in weenie hut jrs
>you can't print a Savannah and use it in your casual format deck because... Because you just can't, OK?
>>98462150>nice larp, everyone buying money cards have loupes nowNot every counterfeit is a dual land or power 9
>>98462140Pain lands aren't expensive. Most of the conditional untapped lands outside of shocks and battlebond lands are not that expensive. Yes. Playing nothing but tapped lands against people running all perfect or nearly perfect land bases will often make you run into a bad time.You reduce the colors you are playing, or you ask the pod to power down. Both things are easily done without needing to proxy every true dual, every fetch, and every triome because you really want to play ur-dragon or some other high color commander.
>>98462171People who print proxies look like this, yes. The are the kinds of people who need to sweat against precons.
>>98462181Post hand, Rapepreet
Thinking about building him, any secret tech I should know?
>>98462148Correct. What people always say when "proxy" though is using changs instead of just printer paper or writing on a land.Which they do, because they doesn't want people to know they are using proxies.Which ofcourse is ironic.
>wotc refuses to reprint the best cards in the game>keeps them legal in the most popular format in the game>retards will unironically go on 4chan to cry about everyone using proxy dual lands
Always funny how anti-proxy posters are rational and pro-proxy poster instantly throw tantrums.
>>98462177>ask the pod to power downhahaha that's ridiculous imagine having to prove that rule zero actually works and isn't a retarded idea in practice, don't you see that us proxying to win proves it doesn't actually work?
>>98462199I see it proves you are insufferable.
>>98462030>More importantly, they're also socially in a position where they need to be able to say "You can't be mad, all my cards are legal, I'm not breaking any rules" when the entire group starts to turn on them because they're bringing a griefer netdeck to a casual game.wow anon you make this sound like mtg isn't a pvp game that's revolved around bending the rules since 1993, that's exactly how it works>but my casual-perhaps animal farm is more your speed
>>98462196>You see, I NEED this. I can't be a fresh out of the box precon without it!Its about your lack of self-control and childish ego. Always has been.
>>98462195Most people using 'counterfeits' as their proxies just want their deck to look more clean than a piece of printer paper stuck in a sleeve alongside a basic land.
>>98462208well proxytards are out of the woodwork now, what did you expect?
>tred melts down that wotc is killing the game with UB and woke>immediately 180s to defend wotc because people protest ub and woke by getting 25c chang cardsPick a lane faggots
>>98462213This truly is cope. Printer paper is clean enough for anyone to see what it is. Its not about "being clean" its about not being questioned about why you are proxying.
>>98462216These are two different groups
>>98462216well i protest wotc R&D by making a card made BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE >>98461742surely you're not going to suck rules made by wotc faggots right?
>>98462216Some retards spent way too much money on damaged dual lands then get mad when everyone with a brain is using essentially the same thing they got for 10 cents on aliexpress
>>98462217As a person that uses paper proxies, not using paper proxies is 100% about it looking nice. I had paper proxies as a few of mt commanders are it really just doesn't look nice, so I got them printed on card stock and they look much better.
I have had enough of your durdling. Be prepared.
>>98462225feel free to be F2P and be carried by us whates, your need for validation is very real though and you in fact cannot withstand our judging side eye
>>98462225100% sunk cost fallacy for losers with trading cards as their largest investment
>>98462216>These are the same people>They're just mad because they paid money!I shouldn't be surprised proxytards, are indeed retarded and don't have reading skills.
>>98462234>>98462225>>98462216Samefag desperate for anyone to validate himself, even himself.
>>98462237Just ordered another playset if duals, can't wait to improve my manabases so I can have more fun
>be in 4chan full of shit against everything and anything>but god forbid people call you out here for being poor playing in a hobby all about disposable incomethe need to be recognized is all so palpable
>>98462217>>98462231Before
I don't want to buy a 6th copy of swiftfoot boots, and I am not trying to fool you and I don't see why you would have a problem with it.
>>98462257After
>>98462258ah, if only proxyfags were only gooners like coomette and not insufferable...
>>98462255Its wasn't even being called out for being poor this time. It was being called out for being lazy deckbuilders, or at least that was my read.
This thing can stop a man land right?
>>98462255"Disposable" is true, you really are throwing your money away by buying trading cards.
>>98462278Yes.>>98462266I'm not coomette.
>>98462255>playing in a hobby all about disposable incomeGo burn your money on a gacha mobileslop if that is the kind of game you want.
>>98462285>'play gacha why dontcha1' he says, not realizing mtg is in fact the 1st gacha game
Why does nobody run any graveyard hate? It allows me to just run crazy shit like this.
>>98462289Because your friends are dumb and bad at magic.
>>98462289I do, and library hate.
>>98462177The guy was mostly just whining because the way he'd lose was particularly frustrating for him. He was always so sure he was so close to winning, even though he was just setting himself up as a piece in someone else's victory. Even so, that frustration is really understandable, because a good solid manabase can be $100-$200, particularly for 3-color decks. That's a hard wall to climb for someone who is not really devoted to a particular commander or set of colors, and it makes a big difference over a $10 mana base of Gates and Towns. And it's so fucking boring. Lands to get the right mana are such unexciting cards.
>>98462264I'm not going to deny they don't look better, but again, they were perfectly readable in the first one, just like I said.
>>98462171chud would not say this he would applaud not giving money to wizards of the coast or people who love giving money to wizards of the coast
>>98462289I use Rest in Piss whenever possible.
>>98462312I guess it depends on what you mean by "being clean". If it's legibility, fine, if it's the card being distractingly out of place it's less fine.
>>98462321>not so fast!
>>98462339>But faster than that!
>>98462345>i'm not playing blue, so take this!
>>98462353me on the left
>>98462289>play against people who don't use the secondhand zone>shit shit shit hang on guys i gotta take 20 cards out of my deck and put 20 cards in from the sidedeck ok now we can play wait where did everypony go
>>98462356>t. hill
>>98462140>>98462099this card is one of many good examples of why you want to buy Reserved List cards (its only $35 and better than all other alternatives by {1}.
>>98462380I identify as a cliff
>>98462177shocks are $10. the green blue battle bond dual reprinted in Marvel is $4. the brand new Marvel duals which are great are less than $5fetches and some color combos of battle bond + ABU duals are the most commonly proxied/counterfieted/reprinted cardsI buy my OG dual lands from Chinese reprinters for $2.20, about what a pack of Beta or Unlimited costed in '93. there is no reason not to run them, they're the core of commander and in every EDH deck along with Sol Ring when the format was new.
>>98462406>its only $35Not if you want one that isn't beat to shit
>>98462420>You see. I need to cheat to beat 2 and 3s because I am just that poor and lazy.Yes, yes. I know. I will not validate you.
What bracket would this be?
>>98462433If you are losing in low brackets because of dual lands you have a lot more issues than opponents using proxies.
>>98462435>bracket 1-3>does nothing>bracket 4-5>too shit to see play
Are there any Chandras or Jayas or etc. that can be your commander? For my red deck I want to run a hot pyromancer lady
>>98462213>>98462196>>98462195>>98462121they're called Reprints. yes I buy them from China and no you can't look at it. GōtC won't do it so Chang steps in.
>>98462443i like how people complain that 5c is slop but then you are supposed to allow perfectly fake manabases 'just because'
>>98462457If Wizards wasn't ran by monkeys it would be a universal rule to allow any planeswalker as a commander by now.
>>98462433wrong I am using format legal game pieces and could still beat you with all basic lands. make your deck worse– it won't matter since you don't have the mind of a winner
>>98462457they both have creature versions, yesJaya Ballard, Task Mage and Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh
>>98462477>Chandra, Fire of Kaladeshdon't deadname the plane chud
>>98462464>perfectly fake manabasesLooks real to me
>>98462289I have had people concede on T1 when I play Leyline of the Void in bracket 4 games on MTGO. not played the deck that runs it enough in paper to gauge the interest (and IRL not that many people use the beta testing bracket system)(and thats a GOOD thing!)
>>98462486>hey legal in formats that prohibit fakes too!hahaha people will say anything to make a sale to those desperate to win in the kiddie pool i suppose
>>98462469no you're wrong. allowing planes walkers, enchantments, sorceries and 2+ creatures are all NOT commander. commander is only one legendary creature everything else is spin-offs. "there can only be one", its the reason why the official name is "Elder Dragon Highlander".
>>98462482i dont have a horse in this race about fictional india but i think they (the people) only changed the name after the plane was out from under the consulate
>>98462497no they changed the name because they found out that kaladesh *could* meant something dirty
>>98462476>refuses to pay for wotc's printers but is 100% gung-ho in sucking wotc's r&dare you even trying to win? this is a perfectly working card that functions within the game rules
>>98462501oh, right, i think i remember a blogpost about thatunlucky
>>98462463>Steppa
>>98462522say that to steppawolf's snapped neck
>>98462522you don't speak Italian? Italian white bordered scrublands are the cheapest duals out there
>>98462612>gets stuckmannized instead
>>98459976replacing Instill Energy in my mono green Toski deck with this so I can have a Horse Riding, Sword of Vengeance & Shadow Spear wielding, Commander plate, Champion helm wearing, Flying Doctor Squirrel hit you for 30/30
>>98462655>squirrelwrong
>>98462140This isn't 2012 anymore, poorfags aren't stuck with literally just guildgates and scry/life lands. That is entirely your own friend's fault for not simply researching what kinds of lands he can play and getting those instead, unless we're talking a precon but even those are always loaded with the majority of what you need now. You literally don't need duals they are so freaking pointless and superfluous nowadays unless you are REALLY going hardcore into two color devotion with your mana costs. Shocks and fetches are one thing, but there are so many freaking cheap untapped options that have been printed to death at your fingertips the entire color fixing argument is completely baseless in 2026.
>>98462217Basic printer paper can't emulate foils and holographs to make my Sol Ring look like the masterpiece version tho.
>>98462674>unless we're talking a precon but even those are always loaded with the majority of what you need nowPrecons still have garbage landbase in them. I really don't blame anyone for wanting to immediately stick dual land proxies into precons.
>>98462289Because putting in silver bullets to counter a specific deck archetype you might not even be up against is retarded. Blame wizards for not making enough good cards that do something generically useful while also letting you hit graveyards.
Since we're on the topic of grave hate, newb question:Do cards still touch the graveyard before they get exiled with Mari? Do you still get death triggers?
>>98462255If you've been into this game as long as I have you shouldn't give a single fuck about giving Wizards any more money. Even if you sleeve absolutely every deck, you've still felt the cardboard they print now at some point, you've literally felt firsthand the fucks they don't give about when it comes to you anymore, the normal consumer. They don't respect the game anymore so why should you? Anti-proxyfags have no recourse to this argument.
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>>98462696Yes, they see the graveyard. The trigger happens what the creature goes to the graveyard. Compare that to a replacement effect that would avoid the graveyard: "if a creature would be put into the graveyard from play, exile it instead"
>>98462286Except the game part that most people enjoy requires zero interqction with the gacha part.
the problem with most graveyard strategies is it's very binaryA) you don't touch my graveyard and I get massive valueB) you touch my graveyard and I instantly lose
>>98462686>Precons still have garbage landbase in themNo they're not, they're literally the reason all the extra duals and filter lands you'd go out of your way to buy anyways are so cheap now. You only have to replace like half their nonbasics instead of all of them like you used to. Precons are perfectly fine products nowadays you should really try them out.
Shitsucksfor5clandBasic LandT, pay life equal to your commanders' color identity: Add one mana of any mana pool to your mana pool.
100 days until Star Trek
>>98462717https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-commander-deck-hatsune-miku-decklist>tap land>tap land>tap land>tap land>tap land>tap for colorlessThe precon landbases suck. Even the upcharged Miku deck still has a horrid landbase.
>>98462717No, precons have like two duals that are actually good,and they scrylands and bounce lands if you're lucky. They are mostly still trash.
>>98462736That's actually not terrible. The lifegain lands are hot trash, and the bounce and scry lands are meh, but they didn't onclude a bunch of pure taplands, so that's an improvement.
>>98462736Wow 8 tap lands out of freaking 20 nonbasics, yeah precons are soooo garbage compared to back when they gave you 12 nonbasics all tapped instead! You niggers never paid $40 for a Twilight Mire.
>>98462736You know shit's bad when the Ninja Turtle precon has an above-average manabase just because it had Undergrowth Stadium.The Miku deck could have at least had a Temple Garden kek.
>>98462051There isn't and I don't think there ever will be.
>>98462753The Miku deck is shit because barely any of those lands even have Miku on them. Pretty disappointing, I always thought those Secret Lair decks were supposed to be completely pimped out to excuse the price.
>>98462736thats a pretty decent precon actually. too bad it has some fucking gay anime bullshit on every single cardlike the tidus FFX deck that was good with good art, parted it out for 3 different awesome decks. plus I got a 2nd Sphere Grid in my Collector Sample. but this crap you wouldn't want to be seen dead playing these cards. YIKES
>>98462736Lazotep Quarry is actually kinda based
>>98462771>thats a pretty decent precon actuallyUntil you realize it's 150$ MSRP
It's another episode of "cards are cheap" then posts damaged cards
>>98462783New thread
>>98462779Dude he's calling Miku gay on 4chan of all places, he's just here to argue.
Why do grown men like buying things because it has anime girl on it? I just don't get it.
>>98462786Autism obviously
>>98462786Lonely virgins who have never even talked to a real woman.
>>98462766They have new art for Finale of Devastation and Bountiful Prominade. That's probably all they figured they needed to do to justify the $150 tag to some paypigs. They wouldn't be wrong if so.
>>98462771>NOOOO THEY REPLACED MY MASCULINE GENDER AMBIGUOUS POWERFUL XEMALE WITH A PRETTY FEMININE ANIME GIRL!!!!!!>NOW ILL NEVER BE ABLE TO SELF INSERT!!!ill be playing it solely to watch trannies like you seethe and dilate.you'll never be a woman btw
>>98462792My gf is buying the Miku deck actually, but not me. Now that we all know it's being print to demand this time I'm just gonna buy the inevitable abundant singles.
>>98462753TMNT precon had city of brass in it retard
>>98462805I'd respect MARO if it had city of ass instead
>>98462805>tap for any color deals 1 damage to yourself/tg/ is so fucking dogshit at Magic it's unbelievable sometimes. Not everyone in the world is playing Darien.
>>98462786Because women are property and literally the first commodity invented after food.
>>98462796I just don't want tranime shit in my western fantasy game.
>>98462838western fantasy is sooo much more trooned out nowadays its not even funny. or do I need to link you a bunch of modern mtg art to prove a point?look at secrets of strixhaven for one
>>98462838Hatsune Miku isn't even anime, she's a voice synthesizer.
>>98462692That's not retarded at all. Any good deck should have at least one answer for everything.>theft>board wipes>aggro>voltron>graveyard recursion>burn>exile>etcIf you notice your deck folds to one of those, you're an idiot not to fit in at least one card to deal with it. Relic of Progenitus is one of those great cards you can throw into anything for little opportunity cost. 1 colorless to throw down, and you can tap it at your hearts content doing some damage, and then for 1 mana you can remove all the problems. Best part? It replaces itself. If your deck gets wrecked by graveyard decks, you have to run at least this.There are plenty of cards like this that for a bunch of scenarios that you can put in your decks, and a lot will already synergize with what you're doing.
>>98461903I've been playing Commander for over half my life now lmao. Sorry your LGS sucks ass.
>>98462935>theftYou say this but homeward path might be the most underplayed card in the entire format. It can be run in actually anything yet very few people actually pack it. I know for a fact anons in this general don't use it just based on all the decklist pics I've seen over the years in these threads. Incredibly low opportunity cost card that straight up deletes theft as a viable strategy.
>>98463456I've only found it NECESSARY to run in jon irenicus
I had a REALLY stupid idea in the shower, unfortunately this doesn't work because stickfingers doesn't mill like I thought he did: https://moxfield.com/decks/uIPObD6pdUy4DSoGzNdE6g
>>98463518Thanks for the update anon. Be sure to tell us if anything else occurs to you while bathing
Nobody plays standard anymore due to ub shit. Premodern is rarely played.here because of costs and proxying full deck is just not fun as you dont have that feel of "scarcity" Im preparing for my first edh game and possible dc game. Im trying to build a fractal deck as i recently enjoyed fractals in sos draft i have played. Can you recommend me some cards for simic colors and having this doggo as commander
>>98463664No, but since you brought up 60-card formats, have you tried Pauper? It has some UB, but isn't rife with it.
>>98463456I run that too! Only in decks that are 1 to 2 colors and really rely on the commander or other creatures sticking around to win. Basically to fuck over things like Insurrection which IMO is one of the quickest "I win" cards in the game.
>>98463456I've been wanting to make a Voltron deck but I play with a guy that loves to steal shit, so this is a nice land card i didn't realize existed that can help a bit, thanks anon
