What is a fyr anyway? edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>98455230 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/JXpc9g>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread Question:Name: 1) Factions that don't realy interact, but feels liek they should2) Factions that do interact a lot, but it's a weird pair
>TQ>Factions that don't realy interact, but feels liek they shouldFyreslayers and sylvaneth, at least as enemiesAlso khadrons and idoneth.>Factions that do interact a lot, but it's a weird pairGits and sylvaneth. Gits don’t even have the courtesy of having spider clan stuff in their battles to show them off in their battles.
>>98465516insanely biased guy here but feel like Ossiarchs should have more story presence. They're nagash's military force and always be collecting bones. Because they're open to (shitty one sided) diplomacy, it's always interesting to here how they interact with other factions, like KO. Can only think of another timeline where they got to be the starter for 5e.I'd love to read a short story where Khornates and OBR fight over a skull throne or a cheeky one where they argue about what makes a skull good.
https://jobs.games-workshop.com/search-and-apply/head-of-age-of-sigmar-studio GW is hiring for a new head of AoS. If you were getting this job, how would you change AoS ?
>>98465593i will make battleworld a reality and introduce the idea of triple turns
>>98465572Wait, who is the starter for 5e? Is it actually rumored to be StD or something? I thought it was Death's turn next?
>>98465593What, you can just apply for that shit?You'd think they'd prefer to promote a guy from within. Who was even the last head of AoS?
SEX WITH FYRESLAYER WOMEN
>>98465634Shareholders like external hires even if the company doesn't
>>98465634>>98465663Nothingham city council appoints one of their own
>>98465624nah, GW became retarded and gives us back to back chaos editions because they want to blow up the realms
I could be interested in a slaves to darkness expansion but that really has to involve mostly new shit in it rather than just refreshes. Ideally with a more high fantasy flair.
>>98465677We'll increase council rates to pay private electricity companies to consider an upgrade to the electric grid for the one UK company we have left IF YOU HIRE 5000 INDIANS, WE'VE GOT QUOTAS TO MEET MATE
>>98465697You'll get new ETB varanguard, new Chaos Warriors, and harpies
>>98465697what even would there be to refresh in StD? chaos spawn, chariot, varanguard maybe?if it's not redone beastmen then I really have no fucking clue what this new StD wave is supposed to be. New edition waves are usually pretty massive too, skaven got like 20 new kits.
What's everyone working on this weekend?I'm gonna do some touch-up work on these two, then I'm gonna pray the weather isn't too humid so I can prime the whole unit and get them painted.>TQ >1) Factions that don't really interact, but feel like they shouldFS and DoK. Naked, zealous, muscle-bound manlets versus (or working with) naked, zealous, lithe dommy mommies are an absolutely underutilized combination. Works both for the meme factor of it, as well as being interesting as a frenemies pairing.>2) Factions that do interact a lot, but it's a weird pairKO and greenskins. I like Dwarf and greenskin stuff in Fantasy, but it feels disconnected in AoS. KO spend most of their time trading in cities or sailing through the sky. Sure, greenskins have sky pirates (which we'll never see on the table), but the KO's level of technology is so freakishly above everyone else's that greenskin jank shouldn't pose a threat in the sky.
>>98465770Fairy sure the tits should be going up when she jumps like that
>>98465770>PicDelightfully deranged
>>98465770I have the warflock spearhead I wanna assemble for the weekend. Considering getting some painting markers to see if they’re really a meme or not too.
>>98465770KEK I had a hard time too when I tried to throw breasts on a ghoul for a courtier conversion Practice on a flat surface first, you may be able to transfer the best cured one to the model too
>>98465516Fyreslayers lost all their mercenary fluff for non-Order and that's weird. There's a recent emphasis on Order solidarity too.
>>98465808Yeh they lost it all until someone throws a bag of gold at them again. We've been through Fyreslayer loyalty multiple times already.They work for giga Hitler and then say they're sorry and act ashamed
>>98465770lmao I assumed you were just going to be filling up the gaps in the cloth and painting it like skin, not also sculpting fucking bazonkas on em
>>98465770my smooth ape saw the mini on the right and thought its huge bazonkas were eyes for some reasonas for what i'm working on, probably getting some gnawholes done and working on touching up some models before i varnish them
>>98465905Holy fucking kek
>>98465905At last, Bloodwrought Blemmyekin
>>98465905
>>98465770Doing an AOS intro game and hopefully continuing with my ogors. Hoping for the drop of the next lot in a few weeks so I can finish the army Also fittingly making stew to harken in the colder weather
>>98465778>>98465806I have no experience sculpting, so I'm running entirely on vibes and brute force. If I do it enough, I'll eventually get it right.I operate very much off of "monkey see, monkey do". Once I learn something like that, I can usually link techniques and ideas to others stuff as go. Problem is, there's not exactly very many "how to sculpt tits on your 32mm mini" tutorials floating around out there for me to ape from.>>98465880I did a varying amount to each model in the unit. Some of the hag models are in salvageable without majorly reworking them.As a general rule of thumb, I did make most of their asses larger and bare.>>98465905Kek. Don't tempt me, anon. I'm not above trying to sculpt a comical mouth on her.I've got zero respect for the blood hags models to begin with, and this is a project purely fueled by spite. Until I prime them, anything is technically fair game.
>>98465516>TQ:1) Ghouls and Ogors. Empty-bell curse is similar to ghoulification and from Ogor perspective ghouls must look almost sane2) Khorne and Ogors. Not a lot but for a long time Ogor had one named butcher who was a high-profile Khull advisor. "Butcher: as in "an Ogor wizard". And he is from a wizard focused tribe. Who worship blood as a sacred drink, while Khornites see it as a sacred gift for their God.
>>98465981*smooth ape braindon't worry anon i'm just fucking retarded
>>98465990very fun scheme anonI really like the face markings
>>98465990>MAAAAAAW>GRANT ME A TEN-FOOT-LONG PARTY SUB AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
Just getting into AoS after finding out it wasn't a continuation of WFB but instead a high fantasy replacement (I literally thought Sigmar came back to lead the empire, not that the world was totally destroyed and replaced with realmspheres). Question:Is AoS supposed to be a high fantasy "post scarcity" society? Seems silly to ask, but I've been reading through the lexicanum for Cities of Sigmar and couldn't help but noticed how advanced things are with magic and steampunk/gearpunk? Do people still farm? I don't get the AoS hate now because it seems really cool. A city of sigmar seems like a dope place to live.
>>98466192There are entire realms of reality given over to the growing of food. It's not really post scarcity, it's more like shits abundant but only accessible through certain realms.Shits all fucked.
>>98466192I mean, technically AoS is still a continuation of whfb, but the world is so different it might as well not be. Plenty of characters from whfb walking around still, though their motivations (and for some backstories) are pretty divorced from whfb.>post-scarcityDefinitely not, it's just that the tech levels are all over the place. You've got kharadron flying around in zeppelins getting shot at by barely functioning orc crossbows. I suppose skaven did the same thing in whfb though.But yeah factions very much squabble over resources. You still need to farm and shit, though ghyran is kind of a cheat code in that regard. Hammerhal aqsha is able to grow to modern tokyo levels in size because on the other side of the portal is hammerhal ghyra.
>>98466033Brute force on £1 plastic card instead of £40 models though?
>>98466033>how to sculpt tits on your 32mm miniHow to sculpt bags and pouches
>>98466192It's not really post scarcity, basically the way it works is some Realms have lots of useful resources but almost zero of others. So Chamon is full of metal, every metal you can imagine or ever need for construction work. It literally spills over the mountains in rivers ready for harvesting. But good luck growing enough crops in Chamon to sustain an entire Free City, it's just not built for farming and most attempts end in failure because instead of growing wheat, what sprouts from the magical soil is copper-wheat which is only good for melting down into raw copper.In Ghyran, meanwhile, you can simply plant some seeds and the Realm's magic will handle growing the crops for you, it'll be the best yield you've ever seen before, you'll never have to fertilize the soil or worry about bad weather... but good luck finding quality metal ore!There's infinite resources somewhere, but getting those resources to the places that need them is the real challenge. That's why Realmgates are so jealously guarded by Order, capturing them was the first real necessity to start retaking the Realms from Chaos.
>>98466192Trade with Ghyran is the main source of food. Hammerhal G is mostly farmers, while Hammerhal A is all industry with 0 own food production.Hammerhal A transports both its products and stuff it got from G to many other Aqshy cities. Coastal ones also jsut fish.Brightspear is mostly cut off from supplies,but survives on a barely working mechanical garden built by a long gone civilisation who's ruins they inhabit.There is alos mention that Ulgu plantlife, used to thriving in near 0 light, grows super fast everywhere else and is used to feed the poor because it tastes bad
>>98466192It seems pretty post-scarcity in the sense that food and potable water are fairly abundant. The big issues of day to day living are dodging the various insane hazards each realm throws at you and surviving the inevitable invasions by enemy powers.
>>98465634Probably also a law about having to advertise externally, even if the job spec includes things like "must have experience of being called Dave and driving a Nissan Qashqai".Besides, I suppose you never know who might apply.>>98466033As someone who's painting a good few witch elves and daemonettes lately, I feel your pain when it comes to "artistic research" of that area, especially if someone else catches you at it. They never believe you...
>>98466248I'm always caught of guard by how fuckhuge these are
>>98466233Low T mentality, anon. I can always scrape the shit off and try again if I'm really unhappy with it.>>98466234How much does that transfer over? I'll do it if it helps.>>98466282I'm married, and my wife is a bigger degenerate than I am. I don't have anything to worry about... yet.
>>98465770Working on my Ogor box. Still got to put together the Maulerbeasts but I'm getting through this stuff whenever I can at work.
>>98465770>this weekendAbon it's thursday
>>98466414Hammerhal ones are one of the biggest, which is why they're so important.
>>98466463now that the dust has settled, why did thursday and friday flop?
>>98466493>ready French kino>Thursday used to be a free day instead of SaturdayHow the mighty fell off
Are the realm gates still gonna work in TLW yall think? If they go down and each realm becomes a continent, then Hammerhall A is gonna have a mass die off
>>98466448Where do people get this much cork from? Back in my young days i used to steal it from school message baords, but as an adult i have no idea where to get it
>>98466515>enormous population decline>hammerhal goes from a tokyo tier megalopolis with dozens of millions of inhabitants to a few scattered "cities" nestled in the former boroughs>between them are huge swathes of abandoned city sprawl being reclaimed by nature and providing refuge to all manner of ghoulish creatures>like medieval rome but 100x times worse and also fantasy Anyway I think boole might've mentioned something about them still being around but much more dangerous to use because of course we're making it more like 40k
>>98466581I bought a bunch of cork board off of Amazon. It's really cheap. I think I bought 12 squares like this for $30~ bucks total.
a little out of the loop with TLW drama and i dont want to read another 200 pages of that tga thread. whats the deal? do we really still believe GW is going to soft reboot AoS when it has been doing so well the past few years?it almost seems like some WHFB oldheads were trying to use hyperstitional sorcery to kill AoSbut seriously.. they arent going to, right..?
>>98466706Probably not. Info comes from chronic AoS seethers and has been hyperbolically inflated by the telephone game to "AoS is being squatted." Leaks have proven spotty at best thus far. Best guess is they're just gonna have the realms turn into Planet Slizer so you don't have to use realmgates to move between them, and exploring the conflict and consequences that arise from that will be the theme of the next edition.
>>98466706By way of various clarification posts everything turns out to not nearly be as dramatic as first presented. The realms merging is still happening though that part is undeniable.But not nearly end times level shenanigans. Closer to 40k's gathering storm, or whfb's storm of chaos (if gw actually had the balls to commit).
>>98466706It seems incredibly unlikely. Why spend a decade making a setting, only to leak to a select few leakers and liars who coincidentally all pat each other on the back on TGA, that "Hey, we are going to REALLY SHAKE UP AoS, but big secret!" Reads like a bunch of attention starved internet liars playing telephone with vague nonsense. Especially after Boole had a mental breakdown and deleted all his posts.
>>98466582The scale of things have already gone to 40k levels; multiple realms, multiple kingdoms and major cities in each, giant armies clashing. We can only hope that by becoming a single world overall scale shrinks a little. Or maybe I should just pick up TOW for that feeling. Idk
>>98466706it's pretty likely, there's a lot of context clues besides the leakers.Jervis Johnson retired in 2021, Phil Kelley works on 40k for over a year now and a smaller but still significant loss is Sam Pearson left gw at the beginning of 4e.There's reason they're doing mass culling of models in one go, and the story hasn't done fuck all since the end of 2e, which coincides with creatives departing the project.You can't honestly look at 4e and tell me it's not pure slop? The tomes are so fuck awful written and barebones. They didn't put any effort into it because they knew it's just a stopgap. If there isn't actually a push to revitalize the game then 5e is grim if it's more of this shit.AoS sales are good but GW is a public company and always wants to push for year over year sales growth.
>>98466758The alternative, that all 3 major rumourmongers who until now have had basically perfect track records (in terms of the actual meat and potatoes of releases, they fuck up details all the time) are ALL wrong, that's just cope. If it was just boole, sure, but it ain't. I'm sure as always there's a bunch of specifics he's wrong about, but the main idea is absolutely happening.>>98466799I feel like the tomes have been breddy gud since lumineth/tzeentch actually.
>>98466818>perfect track records (in terms of the actual meat and potatoes of releases, they fuck up details all the time)Lmao. More revisionism than Stalin's USSR.
>>98465770I would love to work on the Namarti in my backlog, but I've had bad sciatica for the last month and can't sit.I think it might just be over for me frens...
>>98466836I ask this genuinely, but are there any instances of whitefang or boole genuinely fucking up a rumour? I'm not talking about shit like plague troggoths or the maneater artillery lady, but actual "wow that was totally fucking wrong" type of shit that would be required for TLW to be a fake?
>>98466818the obr tome is pure trash, lots of weird decisions and a total mismatch in army identity.the tomes still suffer from aor's being a fucked concept, battle formations being uninteresting and zero attempts at providing incentives to run different compositions of armies, but instead curtailing unit spam by slapping once per turn army on everything.
>>98466858I have to agree on AoRs being fucking ass, they're really afraid of making them good or hell even interesting for some reason. Doesn't help that half of them are just "be better at spamming these 3-4 units"
>>98466853"I'm not talking about when they were wrong, but when they were REALLY wrong!"
>>98466799>>98466836>redditspacingIt's interesting how threatened you feel by people no longer buying into your scaremongering anymore, Boole. Care to explain why you care so much? Frankly I think the "now that the dust has settled" spam was more creative.
>>98466882Can you not read? That was in fact pretty explicitely what I was talking about.
>>98466891Can you stop fellating so-called leakers who tend to say emotionally charged, outrageous and outlandish things, attempt to sound smart by speaking in riddles and rhyme and ultimately are just failed ecelebs who preen and pretend to get crumbs of attention? Allah forgive me, but the TGA rumormonger worshippers are somehow even lower than fans of Vtumor streamers.
>>98466897What's up with this pathetic deflection to ecelebs? I don't give a fuck about boole or whitefang beyond their ability to provide rumours. Idgaf if he's an attentionwhore. Why would I? This ain't tga, I doubt he reads this shit. Hey boole, if you're lurking, please end your next tga post with a senctence ending in "why not?" so we know you're /ourguy/ while still having plausible deniability.Anyway, I don't know why retards on here are so violently opposed to such esoteric concepts like "a track record", what gives?
>>98466919I don't care about ecelebs!**Aside from /ourguy/! Go Boole, we love you, UwU!
>>98466930I accept your concession
>>98466936But your parents will never accept you. So I think I win in the long run.
>>98466581Hardware store. Craft store.
I would just like to say, quite historically, nothing ever happens.
>>98465770Turned Lyrior into a <mydude> with some subtler changes. Gave him a sword, uncapped/filed down the horns, changed the helmet wings, and didn't attach the back banner. Got him primed just in time to make a table debut Saturday. Not sure when I'll get actual paint on him, shouldn't be too long.>>98466840Anon, I was going nuts with my sciatica doing all sorts of stretches until I saw a video that made sense to me. Stretching only irritates the nerve more. I found a way to lay down for a minute or so at a time a few times per day that has drastically reduced my flareups. Give me a sec to MSpaint it.
>>98466840>>98467018Just lay on the floor flat and raise yourself up on your elbows with your legs straight out behind you. Make sure you relax those muscles at the top of your butt/bottom of your back.
As I've been paralyzed at the prospect of finishing the face on the mini I started like 2 months ago I'm going to knock out some of the little gravestone markers from Cursed City tomorrow. Hopefully that'll be the palette cleanser I need to just finish this fucking guy.
>>98466870I love that one of my allotted AoR’s is spent making it so you can take the entire battle time in one army :)))))))
>>98467018>>98467055thanks fren, it's really killing my will to live. I'm doing all the good stuff like not sitting, light exercise (no heavy lifting, no running, etc.), mcgill big 3. I was going clamshell / nerve flossing but that seems to make it worse. Got a dr. appt in a week, hopefully I'll get an epidural and this can go away. I feel like I'm in pretty good shape so not even sure how it happened in the first place. I don't do any heavy lifting usually, only thing that I can think was possibly pull ups or reverse hypers.
Has a pdf for the DOK or HOS 4th edition battletomes been posted yet?
>>98467175No
>>98466192aos doesnt tend to drill down on mundane kingdom logistics like "where does the food come from" "where do they get their water" "how are taxes handled?" etc. it kind of handwaves a lot of that, the focus of the game both on the table and in the narrative are on the big high fantasy battles, brutal magical realms that want to eat you alive, and a greek/norse style drama of the godsthe tabletop RPG soulbound did actually get a bit more into the day in the life of for citizens of the mortal realms, but it hasnt really been something the regular game chooses to focus on too often. it doesnt mean its not there or that they dont farm or that they're post scarcity somehow, the writers just dont spend much time on it. also it is technically a continuation narratively of WFB, but it takes place thousands of years and several apocalypses later after WFB's planet was blown up and the new setting takes place in a pre-copernican style firmament where the realms all orbit in each others skies and are more like strange disk or pit worlds. its high fantasy to the point that modern earth physics and astronomy rules dont apply, and much more mythical and magical than that.
>>98467528Not that anon, but I really do think they should answer questions like that, even if it’s pretty basic in conception. Like I understand why they fight so desperately over Forge Worlds in 40k without needing to know every logistical detail. I think the narrative of Darkwater worked because it’s simple premise of “We have to stop Chaos from corrupting our anti-Chaos water spring” establishes a baseline that makes the rest of narrative easier to get into.
>>98467556If the water in question was Aqua Ghyranis, then the reason they don't want it corrupted is because Aqua Ghyranis functions both as a healing potion AND a standard medium of exchange. And the reason it's a medium of exchange is because Gold and other precious metals are kinda fuckin' everywhere in the realm of metal, so gold would basically turn into a fiat currency. Though the Karadron HAVE tried to introduce a gold standard.Most of this IS from Soulbound, though some of it has ended up in the mainline game.
>>98467571i think as far as anyone is concerned soulbind is canon. it was officially licensed and i've never heard anything from GW proper refuting any of what they wrote for it
>>98467593soulbound*
>>98466192The Soulbound RPG answers these questions, along with various novels. Incidentally the RPG is also how Warhammer Fantasy's lore got filled out.
>>98467624luv me skullfiend tribe
>>98467624always good to see gay representation in warhammer
>>98467797The faction you play is right there
Katakross if he (even more) weeb
>>98465770I've been racking my brain trying to choose a simple color scheme for my Gossamid Archers' spites. I'm doing the Oakenbrow color scheme, which is generally autumn-themed, but I can't find any official Oakenbrow Gossamids to use as a reference. I tried a faded yellow like a leaf transitioning from green to red, but it's too close to their hair. Maybe a reddish hue like their leaves?
>>98467882I should also mention that I don't want their spites to match the Arch-Revenant's. Partly because I based her scheme on a monarch butterfly, because monarch = leader, and partly because I'm not painting those wing veins again.
>>98466632unfinished cork looks like pure shit. It should only be used for forms you layer something on
>>98466433the problem is you won't because you have a low effort mentality >sure it's good enough for me!
>>98466736>probably not>actually yesYou're in denial, anon, TLW will happen, and all the spotty details are correct
>>98465770Paint some DoK, paint some Warcry warband and run 14kms up too many hills.Keep posting your top tier coomer conversions. You inspired me to sculpt gigantic asses on mine
>>98468003That's why all the Ogor aren't actually glued down. I needed an easy way to transport these guys to and from work so I can work on em while I'm on site and have down time. So I put rods in their feet and glued cork to the bases so I can stick em on their base while I transport but pull em off to paint.I'm going to finish up the bases separately with some rocks and grass and stuff.
Weird that we still don't have Ogor battletome on the app
>>98468156They don't release until after the regular battletome releases. Codes for army set books don't work until then too
>>98468228I really like Ironjawz. When I see a big green mountain of muscle decked in crude slabs of metal, it makes me happy.
>>98468277Huh. It’s a bit spikey. Almost makes me wish bonesplitters didn’t get axed.
>>98468277don't be a faggot, it's too soon to see that characterthe actual conversion is a better topic than a leak anyway
>>98468301Aside from Kruel boyz, you don’t really see many greenskins with capes huh.
>>98468301I miss Bonesplitterz bros
>>98468307the warhammer+ megaboss on foot had a cape made out of chains if i remember right
>>98468301I really hope Ironjawz expand from weirdbrutes into more Bonesplitterz flavoured stuff
>>98468277ngl would've had my ass if it weren't for >>98468301sick conversion
>>98468301SOVL
After a week of Necromunda art were back to AoS artwork>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/y2rpnvem/warhammer-art-through-the-years-maggotkin-of-nurgle/
>>98468580Probably the best right here
>>98468580I don't think I've ever seen amybody build the harbringer with the bell option
>>98468580Why would you charge into THAT?
>Phil Kelly calls AoS a grimdark setting in the trailer for the Age of Sigmar Ultimate Guide So hope is dead?
>>98468651welcome to 2018
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>>98467528Why is the Cardinal direction of Life opposite to Fire instead of Death? And Death Is opposite to Metal? Is this an old thing with the eight winds of magic or the nine domains of chaos I don't recognize?
>>98468843They aren't placed oposit of eachother as should be made obvious by light and dark bring next to eachother
>>98468580They said Fyreslayers next week, does that mean the reveal for them will also be next week?
>>98468843on the "original" winds of magic wheel life and death aren't placed opposite of each other, it's a bit of a mess. Anyway in aos ulgu and hysh are next to each other because they form the day-night cycle, slaanesh is also imprisoned between them. They're twin realms, and as you can imagine duality is a very big thing in elven themes.Anyway the paired winds are-death/life-light/shadow-heavens/beasts-fire/metal right? the only one I don't really understand thematically is fire/metal
>>98468879No? Why would it?
>>98468843aside from light and shadows the other realms don't have a real opposite sometimes life is in relation with death, sometimes it's with beastssometimes death is in relation with life, sometimes it's with heavens
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>>98468582Always loved these Gutplate wearing Blightkings, including the Blightking on horse, and the scalemail skellies
>>98468886I once read a writer saying that the realms were paired this way>azyr / shyish>ghyran / ghur>hysh / ulgu>aqshy / chamonI don't know if it was his own rationalisation or if it's based on anything, but in hindsight it just makes sense to me too>future, heavens, reincarnation / past, underworlds, undeath>flora, cooperation, harvest / fauna, competition, hunt>illumination (both metaphorical and literal), symmetry, consciousness / obfuscation (both metaphorical and literal), directionlessness, illusionsfire/metal is a bit trickier >consumption, passion, energy / transformation, logic, method
>>98468886Both the old wheel and the placement of the realms in that art are a mess, but at least the previous wheel had one thing that made it make sense: the winds were in a progression of colors, except for white and black
>>98465770Goblin
>>98468971what complicates things further is that the chinks have their own wheel, and of course the winds aren't in the same disposition but are instead placed to match the direction from which they enter cathay, with top left being north-west etcso unlike the other two wheels it can't even be rotated.
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>>98468999Chinks don't see colour so it make sens they're dumb
>>98468994Nice Gobbo. Got some more?
>>98468228I really like the (red+yellow)+purple combo for night goblins.
>>98468954I really can't imagine ghyran and shyish not being paired. I mean it's life and death. Even the realms both have an opposite gimmick going on with the lifequake and necroquake. Doesn't ghyran expand outward from its center too, while in shyish everything is gradually pushed towards the shyish nadir? Or am I misremembering what that was all about?I understood azyr and ghyr to be opposites in the sense that ghur is all about the moment, primal awareness and shit, while azyr has to do with premonitions and the grand plan and portents in the celestial alignments , stuff like that. Aqshy and chamon having a similar dynamic of fiery passion vs cold logic, though both kind of overlap with ghur and azyr respectively in that sense.>>98468999I like the cathayans having their own slightly different version, one of the few things about their implementation I like honestly.
>>98469013I got all the warbands except the snarlfang one and painted em up black and yellow like my orks. Most fun project in a while
>>98469045>I really can't imagine ghyran and shyish not being pairedI also wouldn't think of not pairing ghur with chamon yet here we are.We would have to go into multidimensional matrixes of interactions instead of simpler pairs.
>>98469046Borgit's blade looks great. Gits had some great underworlds warbands. Too bad we stopped getting new warbands
>>98469102He's one of my favorites. I pray for a squig herd warband some day
>>98469152I guess they would sooner release bands for some other factions but I'm afraid they aren't thinking about underworlds right now. Last new group was a a year ago or something
>>98469186I just realised that we had 2 bands this year. I think that doomposting got me
Where's the skaven mto
>>98469190UW is fine. Rumourmongers said there was 10 planned warbands upcoming a while ago. It's Warcry that was dead for years but that too is getting an announcement soon
>>98469243Were is the Ogor release?I'm also surprised by the lack of 40k Orks as well
>>98469088I feel like ghur-chamon and azyr-aqshy could also work. Again, there's imo some overlap between aqshy/ghur on the one hand and azyr/chamon on the other.
>>98469285yeah the release schedule is kinda weird atm. I was really expecting the custodes stuff to be this week as well. Personally im really only eyeing that new aos book, wonder what its gonna be released with.
>>98469339the BL books seem to be announced the week before release
>>98469375oh shit really? never knew that.
>>98469399Not every time, but the Space Wolf book they announced last week went up for PRe-order on Saturday and the new Necron book got announced just before going up for pre-order as well
>>98468301>>98468403That was a really fun read, always nice to look at these campaign and conversion blogs. I miss blogs in general even though I'm a zoomzoom.While we're on the topic anybody have any recommendations? I like reading the blog de kouzes one from the french guys, one of the dudes works at gw now and is basically singlehandedly responsible for death guard. They don't post often though.
>>98466736They should go with an octohedron instead with every realm having three border realms you can reach by stepping "over the edge"
>>98469950Stepping into another realm should involve some comical hijink ritual like flipping the ship on one of the PotC movies.
>>98469681Probably the white dwarf iterations of the same? Tale of Four Warlords
>kharadron OVERlords>khazalite UNDERlordsdo you think they'll keep them separate?
>>98470157The better question is when does Chaos get their sky variant of dwarves?
>>98470169Why would they? Are you sure you aren't lost? Chaos is "that faction but spiky" only in 40k.
>>98470157I hope they shove them together, I just don't see the two sides as equal if one is going to have fyrefuckers, normal dwarfs, AND also the gholemkin.How can the kharadrons hope to diversify and support a dichotomy?
>>98470157Khazalid UNDERkings
>>98470157They'll just be called the ancestors deliverance or something instead of whatever retarded shit boole called them
5th edition when?
>>98470254not boole
>>98470157underlords sounds kind of retarded, I hope it'll just be khazalid greatholds or some shit
>>98470272next summer
I feel like if there is one army to actually benefit from chariots it would be fyreslayers. Maybe slaves to darkness too.
>>98470286too late
>>98470169
>>98470356antisemitic much?
>>98470356I hope the new dwarves have guy with an even taller hat
>>98470254>>98470275based retard anti-booldroneSTOP SPOILING IN THE RUMOUR THREAD!!!
>>98470399I have no idea what you're on about.
>>98470324Fyreslayer chariot that doubles as a mounted flamethrower warmachineIdoneth triton chariotCoS not!war-wagon "chariot"
the inclusion of extra 'greater' gods ruins the vibe of chaos, even if there are technically eight points on the star, nine gods are not actually necessary.
>>98465723GW should unironically rebrand as a tech company that sells advanced 3dprinters for home use.
>>98470471ok?the extra arrows standing for other gods is only vaguely suggested by a horus heresy pdf anyway and even once you broke them down the 4 extra ones would be morghur, vashtorr, belakor ane archaon, hardly greater gods, just gods-to-be
>>98470418I HATE RUMOURSLOPPA!!!
>>98470483funnily enough in the 2014 financial report there's some notable anxiety from gw surrounding 3d printingthere's a line in there somewhere about how maybe in the future they'll be a company selling 3d files "directly to eager customers worldwide" or something to that effectof course despite 3d printing becoming cheaper every year gw's revenue has also fucking exploded in the same period, so we know how that went
>>9847049530k is full on "eight gods" now, BL books mentioning the 8 dread skeletal hands coming to crush the light of the emperor on the throne. Just as sigmar will soon be on the Sigthrone.
>>98470495also vash'torr has a greater daemon in the new BL novel.
>>98470533oh but if they only sell the files they'll be a software company so that's actually better because software companies are valued far higher than hardware.
>>98470533Easy. Pay £400 to kill yourself with resin fumes then pay more for resin to... Get low quality scans and knock offs for 30% RRP Vs Just get the thing in a superior material
>>98470471If you’re bunking with a Nurgle follower, is it better to be on the top or bottom bunk?
>>98470471There's over 13 of them Anon. The entire horror of Chaos is that over half of them are connected to shit you can't even imagin and thus can't percept
>>98470374Fyresalyer helmets are alreayd taller
>>98470580Taller I say, taller!
>>98470580crests don't count as hats
Why would I play this elder scrolls knockoff instead of actual warhammer?
>>98470599They totally do when they have support structures almost as tall as the wearer
>>98468921My queen! My goddess!
>>98470569Depends on how far along they are.If he's just a novice you'll probably want him in the top one, since the stink rises.However at a certain point whatever he has will start seeping through the mattress and once that happens you DO NOT want to be bottom bunk
i want to get my gf into AoS because that would be awesome, but the problem is that she is a biological woman. i was thinking of recommending an AoS romance novel to see if i can get her interested in the setting.however, im not really seeing anything dedicated strictly to romance. Prince Maesa seemed to fit the best, but maybe another anon here knows more than i do.
>>98470860introduce her to nurgle or skaven, they are the de facto girlfriend factions
>>98470865Sylvaneth and Seraphon are popular with women, too.
>>98470471SLOP
>>98470860Have you tried to write your own?
>>98470865Seraphon and sylvaneth are the definite girlfriend factionsMaybe vampires too
>>98470881Artists charge 150 for a skeb, it's better if they go away.
>>98470860The only solution is for you to troon out to balancei t out.
>>98470865>>98470879>>98470919>not mentioning goblins
>>98465543>Fyreslayers and sylvaneth, at least as enemiesBut there's that one story about how two groups of them are in an endless war because of stubborn oath keeping and respawning trees
>>98466192I highly doubt it's remotely close to post scarcity. And it's still a hellscape with enough horrors that a valuable commodity is a water that wipes memories because there's so much trauma everywhere.
>>98470865Is it possible to do a Scarlet Rot Nurgle army?
>>98471084Wdym ‘is it possible’? Is it a disease of some sort? Is it contagious? Then yeah go for it
>>98471084I don't see why not. In a similar vein if you painted their armour red you could make a pseudo Dung Eater army
>>98471084It'd be kind of gay and trans but you could do it.
>>98471084If Khorne was into psykers or magic, he'd surely do bloodflames.
>>98466226>>98471084Just paint nurgle red and orangeMaybe steal some sylvaneth wings and out em on rotswords or whatever if you really want toI actually thought malenia was one of the more enjoyable and fair bosses, outside of that one bullshit move. Felt like one of the few bosses designed for traditional souls gameplay instead of the spastics that largely occupy the rest of the game
You know what grinds my gears?That people metely inspired by Warhammer capture its essence better than actual Warhammer does.Take Elden Ring, for instance:Scarlet Rot would make Nurgle piss in terror, and is a lot more ominous and tragic, but at the same time has a much better style and is almost beautiful at times.God-Devouring Serpent captures the desire of Chaos to consume everything much better than any modern descriotion of Chaos does. Formless Mother and Frenzied Flame perfectly depict other apsects of it.The whole thing with Godwin would work for corrultion of, say, Maw, perfectly, but ogres are just a joke race.The Misbegotten are what Bestmen wish they were.And at the same time there's a sense of mystery about it all and nothing is fully explaoned, while Chaos Gods are absolutely one-dimensional and pretty orderly, in fact, with distinctive color schemes and symbolism, uniform daemons, etc.And that's not even getting into other FromSoft games.
>>98471188Does anon remember to space, jump, and strafe enemy attacks?
>>98471084typhus corrosion >>> ryza rust drybrush would be good for this
>>98471190Then be inspired by warhammer and push beyond what it's got instead of expecting it to be the be all-end all of all things grimdark fantasy.
The strange thing about aome AoS factions is I can easily imagine them as area enemies in a game like Soulsborne. Like a Volcano level happens to have the Fire Dwarfs.
Gavlan wheel
I find the whole Slaanesh civil war with Pretenders to be far more interesting than anything going on with Slaanesh in other settings.
>>98471190I mean warhammer exists within the broader culture. It both inspires and is inspired by the zeitgeist. Just like we had a bunch of WoW-esque designs from 2013-2015 we're gettint fromslop-esque designs now.>>98471204I don't wanna go too far off topic but I felt like with 90% of the bosses you couldn't really do that. You have to wait and bait out their spastic gigacombo, keep your distance, and then punish the 0.5s window after the boss finished flailing around. Unless, of course, you use one of the spirit summons to bait aggro, but then the game becomes absurdly easy and boring too. I felt like only a handful of bosses, like radagon and malenia, had that classic style where it feels more like a dance, you're constantly trading blows and taking risks. I'm not a scrub, I sl1'd this shit because it was barely different from a normal playthrough just slower. Still a good game mind you just imo way, way worse boss fights. Still shits on demon souls' bosses tho fuck that game
>>98471270I am curious about your distaste with Demon Souls, because to me personally the games lost its way when it became less of experimental designs, puzzles, and set pieces (which Demons Souls excelled in, and every game after diluted it more and more) and instead just solely focused on tight combat encounters that start to meld together. Not to say games like Bloodborne or Sekiro weren't good, they are great, but they don't really have that same magic that made me love the series.
>>98471084By the way anon, I went looking around a bit and it seems you're not the first to have this idea.>>98471301eh it's probably mostly due to me being a zoomer and starting ds3 in like 2016. I think the order in which I played things was 3->bb->2->1->sekiro->ds. After being used to the faster pace and general QoL in the later installments ds can feel clunky. I remember being annoyed all the time at how awkward my character was to control. That fucking flamelurker fight holy shit. I think I would have appreciated the puzzle stuff more if I didn't already know everything beforehand due to general, whatchamecallit, subculture osmosis? I mean in the sense that before I even started the game I knew the monk was blind, you gotta hit the flying manta ray with the sky sword, the big knights has weak ankles, stuff like that. Also my dislike for des is probably somewhat inflated by how much I detest the poison world in that game. Holy shit
>>98471241Gavlan dealGavlan feel…
Hobgrot Vandalz are strangely unpleasant to build. They just don't have the flat joining spots where you glue on arms that most models do, so you kind of have to slide the arms around until they're in the right-ish place and hope the glue holds.
>>98471204Yes I do.
>>98470169Skaven
>>98468277I thought that was a spiderfang shaman for a secondIt's so over it's so over
>>98468886Going by Josh Reynolds, Heavens and Death are paired as Creation/EndingLife and Beasts are paired because Ghyran is really more about plants than all life, and Beasts are what complete the eco system cycle (They eat the plants, help spread their seeds, then die and are fertilizer for more plants, etc)
>>98470245Soon
>>98465516>TQOssiarchs and Soublight. Specifically Deathrattle. There should be huge bone wars of the OBR trying to collect on past due tithes from those long dead kingdoms in Nagash's territory.
>>98470169Doesn't Chaos have a bunch of units on Disc of Tzeentch?
Slaanesh needs more sin representation. Glutos is great for gluttony, but there should be a unit of ravening fatasses that could give ogres a run for their money. Blightkings look like a great conversion base for it. Nurgle has a lot of the fat fuck look despite not being about gluttony.>the perfect mouth for a champion or daemon prince that wants nothing but food
>>98466840Standing desk?
>>98472313Fat glutony champion is played out. Give me some ghoul wendigo looking motherfucker who's throat leads to an empty ribcage everything falls out of, so no metter how much he shoves down his throat he won't ever be full
>>98472604We have those at home. They're called gorgers.
>>98472741We have fat slobs in the same house as them
>>98471605Based joomper>>98471676I feel like maybe that was the case in whfb, but in aos ghyran is definitely more than just plants right? Like shit like the spontaneous pregnancy is very "creation magic overflowing". Speaking of, I don't really get a creation vibe from azyr. Maybe it was different in the older material I guess.
I miss the rage
>>98471505Funny, the best thing you can say about slittas is that they are easy to build
>>98470925So learn to draw you faggot, wargaming is a creative hobby
>>98473076>the proud spirit of a norf fc lad looking on from beyond in the backkek
>>98473076>people who use digital tablets crying about digital art+computerhaahwaawFuck off retardUnless you go into the mountains for crushed flowers to make your own pigmets for your own paints using a canvas you created yourself on an easel you nailed together using purely oil based paints I don't want ot hear anymore fake nu-artists with their gay little tablets crying.You were always cancer.
>>98470433if CoS get a smaller thing to accompany the cogforts, I hope it's a da vinci tank even of it seems wheels are going to be forbidden for all cos units now and forevermore
>>98473139The great cannon has wheels, the cult of the wheel is just one of the religious cults, it's influential but not all-powerful.
>>98473139>even of it seems wheelsAnon they literally have a whole tellgion over it
>>98473139You could always have it move with Flintstones tech
>>98470925>>98473125>defending slopkill yourself
>>98473125ngl it isn't hard to make oil paint using natural materials. The problem with you is a fundamental lack of curiosity and a slave mentality
>>98473210Pick up a brush, tablet babby.
>>98473197>>98473139The cult of the wheel is just one facet of the unberogen isn't it? They could have a cult that's all wheels
>>98473220>tumblrHAHAHACan't even make this shit upFuck off forever, tumblrtard.
eventually ai will let 3d printers effortlessly paint models like the new GW stuff then even professional painters will be out of a job and harmony will return to the world
Bots are genuinely daimonic, and I wait the day bot worshippers burn like the satanists they are.
>>98473227You're proving his point.
>AoSGanti-AI troons >WFG based posters showing off their entirely AI made porn beastmen models to own the woke lefties we can't keep winning TOWbros I feel bad because the sigmar guys won't even have a game soon if TOW gets any more BASED
>>98473252no offense to that guy but he is genuinely the worst painter I've ever seen on this boarddo kind of admire his dedication to proonting gooner slop though, he's nothing if not committed tot he cause
>>98473243>daimonicHe was good in The Martian though
>>98473267AoSG could never have this much SOULFUL
NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY AOS WITH ME UNLESS YOU USE OFFICIAL TRANS STORMCAST MODELS!tiktok hahahaha tiktok
*coughs*
>>98473252>>98473282one of your beast"women" you posted yesterday has a dickAlso don't be fooled we hate your slop on /wfg/ too, as we keep telling you every time you post
>>98472313I think that HoS could focus more on excess and perfection. Imagine a warrior so focused on a perfect strike that he ignores his allies and slashes through them just to complete his ideal attack or leaves because his opponent doesn't fot his vision anymore.On the other hand a demon with many arms, picking as many weapons as he can, even sticking them into his body just so he can carry more
>>98472313If and when they overhaul the lesser daemons and heralds, it'd be the ideal opportunity to rep the six circles.
>>98472313what about just slaaneshi ogres
>>98473417>they're sado-mass anorexiks that get off on denying themselves food
>>98473425one must imagine gorgers happy
Will we get ogor news on the eating day?
>>98473485I suspect next week. I think it'll be either 40k marine/ork stuff or custodes tomorrow. Speaking of, have they done all the new 11th edition launch faction reveals yet?
>>98473616I think orks are done, but space marines still need reveals.
>>98473855orks are missing the rumored war wagon and the leaked nobs
>>98473862Wasn't that the truck that was revealed?But fair enough, so probably more to come then.
Does the Maggotkin book have any Order of The Fly or chivalric stuff in general, like the Shudderhood (the Dawnbringers questing knights RoR)?
>>98473873Their new horsemen allude to knightly orders and stuff, yes.
>>98473855>>98473862Oh yeah aren't they supposed to get bikes too?
>>98473873I would say look into the gofile link thats in the op that has the maggotkin book, but it does look like you need a premium account to look into it now for some reason.
>>98473867rumors was trukk and wagonthe rumors could have mistaken the second build options for the trukk for the wagon, and I hope so since the wagon is still a perfect kit, but god knows how gw operates
>>98473879I think the bikes were shown with the pre-painted terrain.Anyways, just my weekly check on this, but we got the Sylvaneth and COS battletomes a few weeks ago, have any of the other missing battletomes since then been released as pdfs?
>>98473873The Sloven Knights talk about the corruption of Knighthood, but there doesn't seem to be much else in that form, unless you count the priesthood shown in the Rotswords and Blightkings, but sadly nothing else as far as I can remember from when I last checked the book out.
>>98473888not as far as I know
>>98473909Fair enough, I'll check again next week. I try not to pop on here as much as the constant talk of TLW to be toxic at times.
>>98473877>>98473895Thank you for the heads up, I'll check it out then but I'm a bit disappointed it doesn't sound prominent
>>98473923Yeah, I remember when I first read about the Order of the Fly I was wondering why they weren't included in the initial Maggotkin stuff, but it seems that they are novel exclusive.
>>98473932Shame, and Reynolds gone now too :(
>>98473932They get namedropped once or twice in the battletomes.
>>98473940Oh, that's good at least.
>>98472604I've had the idea of turning Tarrare into a champion or daemon prince of Slaanesh for a while. Historically this freak of nature was fairly gaunt when he hadn't eaten, but ballooned up a bit like Luffy when he finally ate his fill. Otherwise he had so much excess skin he could wrap it around his waist once and had a 4 inch jaw opening. Something like a Slaaneshi who fell out of favor and is now cursed to eat constantly.
does anyone have the city of ash pdf? or sand and bone spearhead?
>>98473419looks like he'd be called buttercup
>>98474009I don't think Sand & Bone was ever scanned. Same with the previous GHB. They had high res photos floating around, but no proper scans. The new GHB has a scan but it misses the first 6 or 8 pages that are just fluff.
>>98474012Couldn't be. Ogors don't know how to make butter.
>>98474028>The new GHB has a scan but it misses the first 6 or 8 pages that are just fluffso the important part is missing....
>>98474012BCR definitely know how to make butter and cheese, because cheese originates from nomadic cultures
>>98474037GW probably use chatgpt for that shit anyway. Worthless
It’s probably the least important thing to be included in cities, but a brand new parallel to fanatics would interest me depending on how they might look. Although I’m not sure what they could provide to the army as another battleline option.
>had a serious and a silly idea for my skeleton’s backstories>serious idea was a sprawling and seemingly endless series of catacombs beneath the ground in Shyish, with exits and entrances even in other realms >realize now that’s literally just the BackroomsI suppose Lord Ohpai of Brassiere Manor and skeleton companions who kidnap “cows” to make their bones strong will ride forth into the mortal realms instead….
>>98474276I do like the shyishian backrooms idea
>>98474276I don't see how the two ideas are at odds
>>98473282They just need a light sanding.
We really should've gotten Devoted instead Grenadiers
>>98474324Does that work for FDM? The whole thing is printed in layers right?
>>98473282Genuinely curious as to what your opponents have to say about these models
>>98465770forcing myself to finish these demons, not enjoying it!
>>98474405>assuming he leaves his house
>>98474354grenadiers are kinoscrap steelhelms instead
>>98474364No, but its what the shills always say.
>>98474354Thought it was a Skaven fort when i saw a fuckhuge bell
>>98474852Drothbloods are really cool, I hope if fyreslayers get a replacement for their vulkites they take some cues from them.
>>98474242the cogfort of conviction arc begins anew
>>98473220Anon. We can all agree that using a free software that makes the whole of a composition is bad.Most people are ok with AI art. Most people don't like bad AI art.Being retarded and going "AI bad" with all seemingly ai art is retarded and only makes people despise you.If you want to criticize ai then give a why the particular art is bad. This way the guys that used ai can either be embarrassed and start to improve by using photoshop&similars or just fuck off.14 years ago people who did computer graphics were just as shit as people who use AI now.Traditonal artists bitched so much that computer graphics artists became a part of the industry (most of it). Ai is a tool, just like photoshop, but it has a low skill bar for new people, it wont go away even if you bitch out ad infinity about it.(Also I hope you are not of those retards who false flag art as AI just because light and other effects that look strange with filters/effects)
>>98474452kino colorscheme. I also want to paint my nurgle forces in sort of discolored dead skin style instead of default green.
What ever happened to the rumour that said GW was gonna soft reboot AoS? Did anything ever come of that?
>>98475147>it wont go awayyes, it will, people will be priced out when the costs of the shit catch up on the bubble
>>98475186It's still happening, but it was always slated to be happening with the campaign at the end of this edition and the next edition.Sorting through all the more outstanding interpretations and fears, this is what appears to be happening:>some back and forth attacks between the grand alliances happen, such as dwarfs with lizards attacking chaos, or the "claw of gork" (a new ironjaw on wyvern) bashing up order and chaos and forcing sigmar to ally with one of his old enemies (unclear who)>eventually chaos makes a big push for azyr and breaches it, also along the way slaanesh gets freed and archaon and sigmar have a big final duel >somehow, sigmar pulls off his long foreshadowed plan to glue the realms together, but this comes with only a few pieces (specifically the ones we got maps for over the years) getting saved and jigsawed together into a new "last world", while the rest of the realms are destroyed>an unknown timeskip happens, might be 100 or 1000 years, but most characters are immortals, and the ones who aren't (like thalia) seem to be getting deus-ex-machina'd across the timeskip >the new world looks somewhat like the old world, in the sense that the surviving bits and bobs of the realms are arranged in a familiar way (ie elven realm as an island in the middle of the ocean, and chaos once again at the poles)>the new map has new factions that probably exist just in the backdrop and to inspire proxies (there's a convenient not!bretonnia and not!kislev, a japanese faction, a chinese one of evil snake worshippers, and even a chaos faction with blackpowder)>the timeskip is used to ramp up the grimdark further, the cities of sigmar grow further apart and stormcasts lose their recyclability (instead they pass the mantle to new people upon death)>there are also two stories over what happened in the big final battle: chaosfags believe archaon killed sigmar for good, sigmarfags believe sigmar defeated archaon and then went into a secret quest
>>98475168Thanks! Yeah I wanted to balance maintaining a cartoony vibe with avoiding a "traditional" nurgle scheme
How many times will the retard attempt to derail the thread by talking to himself?
>>98475193Anon. People can literally download the software. Stop being retarded and cringe.
>>98475319Bird up!
>>98475147Anon, the medium is the message. No artist is involved, there's nothing critique - it's a black box of slop with unknown connections
>>98475373
warhammer would be better if gw embraced ai I already use it for kitbash inspiration and writing campaign fluff that is honestly better than official material lbr I don't dabble in narrative play but you can generate wonderful emergent tables with ai and even have it DM for you
>>98475306And this is confirmed to be happening?
>>98475387Artists do use ai. They do the composition and give with the prompt a simplified composition&materials (visuals, etc).Trying to discover what ai art is done by actual artists and people just using prompts is indeed hard, maybe harder than discovering traced art.
>>98475186>>98475306 gives a pretty good rundown. The initial rumour was very apocalyptic, but since then a number of elements have been clarified and things don't look nearly as bleak now.I am skeptical as to gw's ability to actually pull this off though. I feel like one of the things always holding aos back is that it still had remnants of whfb tying it down, but in terms of story/characters and physical miniatures. They never really had the freedom to develop the world as it actually might develop, because they always had to account for random bullshit like why x factions look y way. Whfb miniatures were designed for whfb's world and vice versa, but that obviously doesn't always work for AoS, so they had to design the world around the miniatures (yes I know minis always come first but they are at least usually designed with the pre existing world in mind).Good example is freeguild only looking like landsknechts because the miniatures did, which were designed on with a very specific pseudo-hre in mind.Anyway all this to say that keeping all the characters around after the timeskip might cause a similar issue, where you now have to bullshit your way through having these super duper special characters show up in places and times they really shouldn't be, which is not an amazing way to start your "next chapter" so to speak.
>>98475306If they kill off Archaon I will switch to TOW
>>98475438You're not an artist lmao
>>98475435gw hasn't addressed it in any way if that's what you're askinggeneral consensus is that the broad strokes of the story are generally certain but all of the specifics of how any of this shit is supposed to work are up in the air
>>98475470Jeepers. That's really something. I'm a fairly casual AoS fan, I know parts of the lore and know a handful of the important characters, but I really play the game for my brother, who loves the setting. It would suck if they went and undermined a system that he has sunk years of time and attention into. Is there any particular reason that they would want to make these changes? Insofar as I understand, the initial change from Warhammer Fantasy to AoS wasn't a popular one, so why risk it again now that it's somewhat more established?
>>98475502I don't think the changes are going to be anywhere near end times level. From where things stand, it seems like it'll be mainly the general cosmology and the geographic 'vagueness' that will be amended. Afaik, only stormcast and CoS (and possibly StD) will really be affected in a major way, most of the other factions will keep on trucking as normal. And even then, CoS seem to be mostly continuing on their path set out in 3rd edition.As for why, probably wanting to attract the hordes of secondaries coming into 40k right now. It's undeniable that AoS has the smallest 'cultural footprint' out of all of gw's settings, despite being the second largest actual game (both in scale, and importantly, investment). I think gw has realized that the very poor handling of AoS' launch has caused a certain stain to hang onto it, which has proven difficult to remove. We're not even talking about the whfb grogs, but new people who hear about AoS FROM those grogs. A lot of people are still treating AoS based on their first assumptions from that terrible launch in 2015. It's why you still have people saying they don't like the "infinite multiverses" of AoS "with no maps", stuff like that.I think even if in the grand scheme of things not much will actually change, GW sees this as their chance for a second "First Impression". I don't think the goal is actually to show how different AoS 5e is to AoS 4e, but rather how different it is to AoS 1e, since that's what the target audience still has in their mind.Will this be successful? Remains to be seen, but I have my doubts. In any case, this is the best theory I can come up with for now
>>98475557Alright then. Thank you for your time anon, you've given me some things to mull over. Although, I will say that I hope this doesn't fracture the community as it currently stands, that would be unfortunate.
Jesus christ nigga you've beeen vomiting out your essays for like 3 threads, stfu already. Nobody buys "hay guys i'm new and wanted to ask about the shit some shizo made 20 posts about last thread"
>>98475585No problem anonLike I said, we don't really know all that much about how exactly all of this will shake out. At first the rumourmongers sketched quite a bleak picture, but it's gotten a lot more nuanced since then. It'll all depend on the exact implementation. We'll find out in like 9 months I guess.
>have ironjawz spearhead>have first seraphon spearhead>slaves to darkness planned to get because evil knightsSo I guess I need a death spearhead too? Thinking either deathrattle skellies or spooky bedsheets. Which one is better, first or second spearhead?Also what about the boney boys?
>>98475644is it so incomprehensible that an anon would have questions about perhaps the most significant rumour in AoS' decade long history?Besides, all the answers were fair and nuanced. Samefagging concern trollers are not subtle people. If it was them, it'd be all "oh no fellow aos fans i'm really worried they're going to squat our setting, by the way look at this lords of war video are we in trouble sisters??" instead of "yeah it's probably happening but it's not the (literal) end-times we first assumed".
>>98475648>ironjawz spearheadI have it too, I've built the Megaboss and one Brute. These models assemble like shite, they're so bad. I'm thinking of skipping and going with the Deathrattle Tomb Host Spearhead instead. Skellies are cool.
>>98475675yeh bro i'm sure this dead board with 20 users is full of fresh confused people who just learned about shit from 3 months ago
>>98475648The Nighthaunt spearheads are pretty strong, and you get to ignore most of the game rules (rend, cover, movement restrictions). The newer one has the better Ethereal where you can actually buff your saves.Deathrattle is cool too, but it's more of a slow attrition and some surprisingly hard hitters.
>>98475557Honestly, I personally hope the changes to the Stormcast aren't too much, I actually like the Ruination Chambers and the Reclusians, so hopefully they stick around.
>>98475690>This retard doesn't believe in new gamersQuit your bitching faggot
>>98475466I do not use ai to do shit either.I can defend ai without using it "to do art".Honestly this outrage is retarded. There is a simple solution for shit ai: ignore, don't engage, say it looks bad. There are extremely valid criticism online but the usual "ai bad" is not one.For exemple, a yt video about how the ""95% ai anime" is bad, this one was done like I said before (with artists giving a composition and making ai do its shit based on it)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSoutamXPIQAnother exemple: An "anime" made with ai were the ai just make rotoscope with an styler (made 3 years ago)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9LX9HSQkWoAll in all. AI tech for "creative" illustration&video is relative new, there is interest and investment on the area and the technology and it will only get better. And people pushing it are not nobodies that use ai to make photos in the style of ghibli studio art but actual artists and industry people.If you are a digital artist afraid of losing your jobs, well, I m sorry, you are feeling the same way as traditional artists felt in the 2000s when people started selling photoshop art to companies.(If you want to continue this conversation I will be here today, but I hope we don't derail the thread too much)
>>98475742I've sperged about this before but I really don't like the concept of sigmar's mercy that was introduced with the reclusians. Feels like it takes all the drama out of the stormcast and their internal dilemma when you can just pull the plug on one whenever you feel like anyway.Like what's even the downside of stormie immortality now?
>>98475435pretty much
>>98475462They're not killing archaon, the only question is whether he's sitting out of the main scene until he gets a new model
>>98475435Yes, Games Workshop announced it last week. That is why googling it gives you dozens of results talking about it and none of them mention rumors or speculation.
>>98475999Archy will ascend to godhood and his model will become an eidolon of his power (as will all the other god models by the way)The big four will crown a new everchosen in his place who will get a brand new model. This was revealed to me in a dream
>>98475557>GW sees this as their chance for a second "First Impression".Lmao, fail on arrival.Haters want AoS cancelled and for GW to do a full dogeza for killing Whfb and inventing Stormcast Eternals. This half-measure won't satisfy anyone except make a second batch of haters from AoS fans who will also hate the Last World.Games Workshop is fucking stupid if they're doing this
>>98476086I don't think this is necessarily meant to convince the remaining grogs, but rather total newcomers.
>>98474299>>98474321I’m partial to my “totally not the Backrooms” idea regardless, partially cause I got a bunch of old and even “retro” skeletons on the cheap cause people were offloading theirs post the reveal of the refresh. They could represent the generations buried in the endless catacombs. Plus I could talk about /mydudes/ in polite company lmao. Lord Ohpai will be the protagonist of another story….
Damn Tempest's Eye women look like that?
>>98476253Shyish Backrooms is peak I like it
Just ran City2Surf, getting pegged by my domme and I still will have time to do groceries and paint some minis.What's your excuse for having a grey tide?
>>98475822ai bad
>>98476572trvthnvke
>>98475822AI is shit and using it at any part of the art process actively makes your output worse. people like to compare using AI to photobashing done by concept artists, but the core difference is that with AI you don't know what it's sourcing from, and there's no way to get a consistent result out of it, therefore making it a shit tool. if i want to add fat fucking tits to a skaven i can do that myself without surrending myself to the yoke of a random billionaire
>finally get to my calvary unit>base actually isn’t so wide that it can’t fit in the regular GW model holder That’s convenient. Horses are so intimidating to paint, I can’t imagine doing a regular horse instead of a skeleton one.
>>98477096You can get away with painting them brown. Irl horses usualy aren't visably patterned
>Friend wants to play WFB>I don't like the rules>Friend wants to play AoS 1st or 2nd edition>AoS 1st Edition allows you to bring all the various elf factions together under the generic Grand Alliance Order allegiance>MFW could finally play Host of the Eternity King like I've always wanted>Friend wants to play Chaos>WFB End Times in AoS This is a dumb idea, right?
>>98477357You can just make Order faction in AoS1e and spam elfs, but then Luminerh don't exist yet
>>98477376>You can just make Order faction in AoS1e and spam elfs,>AoS 1st Edition allows you to bring all the various elf factions together under the generic Grand Alliance Order allegianceYup, I know.
>Hmm what are the Deepkin like in 4th>Interesting, oh cool, nice!>What's the Soulrender like? He's a cool-Wtf is this ability? Is this not just like, super mega broken?!
>>98477441Every model with a big axe used to instakill anything they fought by just rolling 6. This sounds like a much tamer version of it.
>>98477441>90 pointsCheap, but it ain't cheap enough. You get twice the wounds for Namarti which is the only thing chaff is good at.>awesome abilityThat needs you to get your hero into combat, fighting another hero, who also has little enough wounds for this to matter. It's a Foot Hero who is good at fighting other Foot Heroes in an edition where Foot Hero's are basically useless so no one takes them. It's powerful but so niche because 4e is so shit, no one takes too many.
>>98477381Oh yeh. Guess you can try using the 1st editin rules to play mono-elf
Jesus christ I finally got all 20 gluttons built and primed.HOLY FUCK, big respect to that anon for his extensions and all that because I was doing some half assed green stuff kitbashing and even that was a massive pain in my ass.
>>98477357Be prepared for the overwhelming sovl you might experience
>>98477357Fun fact, GW aren't actually an international enforcement agency with mind reading technologies and a warrant to harm you if you deviate from their official rules. You can play any edition with a mixed army, a custom allegiance, whatever.
>>984773812017 GHB has grand alliance battle traits otherwise you'll have to use the Firestorm ones, unless you forego battle traits entirely
After actually reading the new Ogre battletome, I do get what GW was going for with the whole "New Head Bitch says FUCK your mercenary lifestyle" thing.It's basically just a narrative explanation for why Ogors in AoS have been utterly unconsequential and ignored for 10 years in AoS (They were just too busy being lazy and hiring themselves out to other factions, you see) whereas now that they've gotten their refresh and actual special characters they're now a big looming threat who are going to totally going to start making big plays that'll really shake up the setting (by jobbing, like every other Destruction army)GW loves attaching meta-narratives to their product decisions as usual, basically.
>>98477705Can't wait for them to reintroduce maneaters in 5th and see what bullshit they come up with now
>>98477705>They were just too busy being lazy and hiring themselves out to other factions, you seePost some examples? Ogres have been absent from the fluff entirely. BCR are incompatible with mercenary attitudes anyway and they were the frontrunner faction before the end of 2e. GW just threw the blurb in to draw a line between CoS Ogres and Mawtribes Ogres, even though they're different species already. >Grell >Mercenary RoR>Maneaters confirmed Pointless corporate slop
>>98477705>GW loves attaching meta-narratives to their product decisions as usual, basically.And that's a good thing. Keeps the story ball rolling and avoids retcons
>>98477705>It's basically just a narrative explanation for why Ogors in AoS have been utterly unconsequentialI don't think this was ever necessary
>>98477757Where are Wanderers?
>>98477773Stopped wandering in 2e with the CoS battletone.Became integrated into society as the default city elfs with the 3e CoS tome.Fell victim to racial prejudice caused by Anvilgard and other events and got marginalizrd or chased out to elf factions in 4e.Full story all told by the warehouse stock of random leftovers.
>>98477773Dunno, but please ignore the wanderers-shaped mounds around the living city.
>>98477790>Stopped wandering in 2e with the CoS battletone.I thought their fluff kept being that they're the only group that doesn't actually live within the cities, and just passed by
>>98477805They wandered because nature hated them and wouldn't let them stay in one place.After Allariel forgave them they didn't have much reason to keep going other than force of habit
>>98477812>After Allariel forgave themThat's the thing, I remember some ambivalence on that front, like she forgave them for one city, but not others, and/or them just keeping on being nomads regardless at that point.also because they had other reasons to wander, like traveling through the leylines to fix them
>denied Conquistador waifusEverything went wrong in 3rd edition
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>>98477822I've been trying to find that teaser trailer from right before 3rd was revealed where half this board was convinced it was fimir but it seems they've deleted italso mind explaining what's going on thr bottom right there big fella
>>98477845https://youtu.be/pVEgTmin5J4?is=alju81qa9s7t-_eSShe's thirsty! The new world is so warm
>>98477845Everyone thought the red eyes representing scareshields and eyes were actually indicative of Fimir's mono eyes because the two lights for an Orruk's eyes were so close together I remember rumours of Fimir + bog goblins based on it but Fimir schizophrenia predated anything that even mentioned swamps Forced meme turned psychosis
>>98477872appreciate it anon!and boy, they must be, seems sweltering!
>>98477845>>98477872I've used this link to go back to the 2021 threads before kruleboys were announced, people were way more convinced goblins would be in the starter, fimir stuff was either shitposting, kragnos-tier schizophrenia, or faint hope they would be a throwaway unit added to them.
>>98477903I think this was the first or second thread discussing the teaser https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/79086431/ pic related tooit's interesting to note that even in this thread there was an overlooked rumor of orcs, instead of goblins
>>98477903In my case I didn't get onboard with the "shoulda been fimir" meme until after the army released. Like you said, initially it just read like shitposting and schizophrenia. But after reading the fluff and seeing how they wanted the army to play, increasingly I've come around to thinking, "Why isn't this army just fimir?"
>>98477941You know why. GW can't release them no matter the branding because search results and social media are overwhelmed by the hurr durr rape types. Imagine someone's Grandmother trying to find Little Timmy's present this Christmas amongst that.
>>98477903Makes you wonder how different dominion would've been received if kruleboyz were gitz instead of odd lanky orcs
You can probaly power all of Estonia with how hard my eyes are rolling at heating up Fimirfags shit again.At least try to get some new material to spam
>>98477956I doubt the appeal would have changed much, but by now warclans would have felt even more misbegotten
>>98478017No one asked mate
>>98478017what's upsetting about fimir discussion?
>>98478017>heating up Fimirfags shit again.>spampoint to the fimirfags in the thread
>>98478109We don't tolerate Warhammer Fantasy discussion here. Anyone asking for Fimir, Greenskinz, or Dwarfs, Swifthawk, Wanderers, Landsknect, etc should get a ban. I'm sick of this toxicity and spam.
>>98477903if only
>>98477949Eh. They added Fimir to Total War just fine, the TT roleplaying game also has featured Fimir content in recent years.. Not that I think there's explosive demand for more Fimir out there, but pretending it's literally impossible for GW to do anything with them ever is overplaying your hand. They could. They didn't, but they could.
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>>98478124Still, I doubt GW want to entertain the possibility but if anything TOW will get them if they are permitted because they have so few modern sculpts to work with
>>98478132Got the warriors, the noble, and the mage that was finished but never released. Could be a decent addition to any range in either aos or tow.I keep forgetting they weren't actually chaos in aos, but destruction.
>>98478148>I keep forgetting they weren't actually chaos in aos, but destruction.That was most likely just a keyword technicality more than any real fluff development.
>>98478162They didn't have any fluff outside of the abilities blurb and that was generic Fimir stuff I can't imagine why because FW had a lot of chaos for sale too.
>>98478178>I can't imagine whya lot of monstrous arcanum was dumped into destruction with little thought, I guess the connection of fimir with chaos just slipped past the rules writer
>>98478258>>98478258>>98478258Been on page 8 for a while, time to migrate
>>98477757I'm glad at least someone gets it.
Man the Skaventide really should've just been in Azyr, the place is supposedly getting blown up next edition so would've been cool to see it now. Also would've fit the end of the Dawnbringer Crusades that they were both succesful but they'd completely forgotten about the home front which gets attacked by Skaven. Finally would've made the death company stormcast fit because it's a case of they're just sorta forcing them off the assembly line as quick as they can which leads to more reforging flaws.
