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>>98468491UP THE BLUES
>>98468491>What’s the best pairing in 40K?Two friends with painted models on a hand-crafted table.
I LOVE Praetors!I LOVE SPACE MARINES WITH CAPES!!!!
We going to vault tomorrow lads?
Do I have this right>Primary: Tabletop gamer, collects, paints, plays with miniatures>Secondary: plays video games & reads books based on the tabletop game>Tertiary: reads wiki based on video games, books and tabletop, or watches videos on those things
How can I do a glowing red eye effect, like a scary red eye machine thing?
>>98468515I guess that's accurate enough. People toss it around as a vibes-based purity test all the time though and most people intersect with several of those layers at one time or another.
>>98468518Spray a bit of white through an airbrush and layer a light red over it
>>98468499>No idea what specifics he is referring to.That's what I was hoping for a QRD on, yeah
>>98468518Minor OSL techniques applied sparingly, probably. Undercoat of white where you want the color brightest and then thin glaze over your metallics or whatever you want the glow or reflection to show on.
I'm a quaddah, i don't even like 40k
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98468524No one gave a single flying fuck about warhammer before Dawn of War but the crustiest of aspies. Even Battletech was more widely known and popular pre-DoW. Unless you lived in the UK I guess but they're not a real country anyways.
>Did you read the latest Boys Love novel?! It hints at the return of Glupshittion!>Dude, Goobermungus is back! He's BACK! How freakin epic is that?!>But what about Blorbonius?! I just commissioned some art of him with an eldar waifu isn't that so wholesome chungus and original?!Why are primarchfags like this?
>>98468524>guy playing mtg walks over to the 40K table and sees the minis and the guy playing it explains what 40K is>decides to watch some youtube videos about it and likes to listen to them in free time>he’s now a primary despite only watching lore videos on it >guy gets introduced to 40K as a kid playing the dawn of war games in the early 2000s>despite racking up thousands of points of models over the years and playing hundreds of games he’s still considered a secondaryITS A MAD HOUSEA MAD HOUSE
>>98468542Ritualposting, ban-evading sniffers need to GO
>>98468550Poopytarbo is coming back too
If you don't engage in the primary form then you're a secondary, that's itFar as I'm aware it came from touhou autism, where if you only knew it via memes and or porn, and didn't play the games, id est the primary media, you're a secondary
Reply only if (You) are working on something.
>>98468542Speaking of tertiaries
11th edition needs a campaign that centers the Emperor's Children and gives them sweet bikes.
>>98468524Holy mother of LARP90% of anyone under the age of 40 here probably got into 40k because of Dawn of War or 4chan memes. Get of your high horse, election tourist.
>>98468550do you feel the same way about yarrick coming back
>>98468559I've been painting but there's no chance I'm posting it here, you people would bully me
I like orks :D
>>98468550I have waited 20 years for Goobermungus to wake up in 40k. How very dare you
>>98468572yarrick should have died for good a long time ago
>>98468559Hopefully this time it won't be sideways lol
>>98468585Got a giggle from me.
>>98468585are you cropping your image?
>>98468572I find it hard to care about Yarrick returning when we get 5 primarchs per 1 (one) guard character dodging death, even if I found GW's whole "will he won't he die for real this time" shtick really fucking annoying. After all, Creed didn't get so lucky.Besides, the only reason they tried to kill off Yarrick in the first place was to glaze off yet another primarch by tying his death to one of the daemonfags, if rumors are to be believed.
>>98468578Really they ought to just retire all the non-immortal named characters from M41.999 and create a crop of new ones like 100 years later struggling to replace them and carry on the fight. You can always still have rules for them in legends for historic battles.
>>98468515>primary: me>secondary: other anons>tertiary: you specifically
>>98468585fuck
>>98468515No>Primary: me>Secondary: people on the internet I don't like>Tertiary: secondaries but I want to shitpost harder
>>98468591>*monkey’s paw curls* >all the new characters are generic girlbosses
>>98468590I can't help but feel like they're setting the stage for full on future marvelization with the primarchs returning.
>>98468371Wait those Tzaangor enlightened on discs in the back are kitbashed. The regular kit comes with spears or bows not pistols ands chainswords. Heck they arent even an official unit if you wysiwyg
Are drukhari fun to paint/play? Or are they tedious?
>>98468600Paint: Easier to paint than Eldar imo.Play: Speedy Glass Cannons that punch up hard. Like damn that was a lot of damage, your tanks are dust. Then a half strength marine squad charges your ass and your unit implodes
>>98468598You don't need Apollo's blessings to see the writing on this wall, anon
>>98468595She's made for Eldar cock
>>98468524That's dumb and wrong and I don't even know why you'd try and use this kind of definition unless you're literally a nomodels nogames secondary or tertiary trying to claim status as an actual fan based of coincidentally having seen warhammer models before warhammer derived media.
>>98468598>future marvelizationNegro we have been marvel since 8th edition
>>98468591>>98468595
All this complaining about warhammer novels makes me think that no one here has models so they don't have anything else to discuss
>>98468623you mean 5th edition
>>98468629Kum kannons*It IS the trans-friendly faction after all
how the FUCK do I do blending, highlighting and all that shit mang
>>98468637Practice makes perfect
>>98468628Do us all the favour and stop thinking, you're not particular good at it and you might hurt yourself if you continue.
>>98468595>>98468625guard (and other armies) are suffering because of the sausage fest that is Marines.
>>98468637Highlighting is piss easy, just take a version of the color you're using that's a tint higher and lightly go across the edge of the model. Blending tho is a bit more tricky, you need to mix more for that.
>>98468642>models absent>hypothesis stands
>>98468599>if you wysiwygNo one does this. I have a scarab terminator squad with the heavy flamer and soulreaper and just declare on the battlelist which one I'm using and the other counts as a bolter (desu I end up using the soulreaper 99% of the time). Never had issues with anyone.
>>98468637Nobody actually does any of that. If they do, definitely not for every model.
>>98468550>*sigh* why did GW bring back Glupshittion, Goobermungus and Blorbonius? Instead they should have focused on expanding the Aeldari aspect temples and given us the Backshots Aids Givers Aspect and led by a new class of Farseer called the Seer of Foreskins
>>98468552>>guy playing mtg walks over to the 40K table and sees the minis and the guy playing it explains what 40K is>>decides to watch some youtube videos about it and likes to listen to them in free time>>he’s now a primary despite only watching lore videos on itno he's not, if he only watches video and his actual introduction was videos, then he's not a primary, someone telling you 40k exists is not an introduction>>guy gets introduced to 40K as a kid playing the dawn of war games in the early 2000s>>despite racking up thousands of points of models over the years and playing hundreds of games he’s still considered a secondarycorrect, because his introduction via videogames and memes will have tainted his perception of 40k and will never have the same view of it as an actual fan
>>9846855411th would be better if they had released his model
>>98468650Yes, your models indeed remain absent! Curious!
>>98468661>unprompted seething about eldar>weird projection about std and foreskinYou forgot your necron reaction image
>>98468660What did she mean by this
>niggavolt cultists>war(p)smith>named character>olbiterarors>mutilators>that spider thing>upgrade sprueIf Iron Warriors were their own codex the would have more unique marine stuff than thousand sons.
>>98468669none of these is unique to iron warriorswhich is why they won't be a separate codex
real nomodels hours
>>98468667the discord ghoul arrives in record time!
>>98468675I posted mine
>40k player buys necromunda models for a shitty "conversion" that he never paintsplease tell me you guys don't have to experience shit like this
>>98468675That explains your presence.
gonna get me summadat orkussy
>>98468371FUCK tzaangors
>>98468685I'll happily fuck them. Even if magnus probably has a more tighter hole for my cock.
>>98468672if they were sawed off into their own army all of those things would go with them which was my point holy fuck people cannot use their brain to understand the words written on their screen.
>>98468502Modern 40k players could never
>>98468628There is nothing worth discussing until the new marines codex is released.
>>98468675I know my model is shit, it's like 3 colours, no highlighting, no use of light and shadows, no OSL, no depth, so I'm not posting it
Cute female tau character model when?
>>98468667ellie?
>>98468677stop ban evading
>QT: What’s the best pairing in 40K?I drink beer and eat hamburgers most of the time while I am playing 40k. It's the most constant pairing I've played with since 4th.
I never started a Kroot army because I'm still working through the Drukhari and now Exodites. It's a bad idea to take on another project when you already have a project and another project.
>shitload of painting to get done>classic + on the horizonbros it's fuckedI will never finish all my projects
>>98468689>if they were sawed off that would never happen
>>98468680maybe you should stop being a negative nancy all the time and support your peers and they'd finish their projects in no time.
>>98468708>nancy>peers
>>98468707Clearly you're too retarded to understand my point was Codex Iron Warriors would be bigger than the existing Thousand Sons roster and thousand sons need more stuff.
>>98468713Your point was that they would have more unique stuff, but that stuff isn't unique and will never be made unique, not even in the most far fetched hypothetical scenario.
>>98468625Ursula isn't a generic girlboss. She's literally defined by her insecurities and the shadow of her dad, she's the only interesting new gen character.You just think she's a girlboss because she's an ugly bitch.
Anyone see an Ork army running 3 Dakkarigs yet?
>>98468666Stay away satan
>>98468718>She's literally defined by her insecurities and the shadow of her dadwhich is why in the worst regime imaginable her introduction made it clear that she's NO nepo baby but a self made woman who don't need no daddy
>>98468680Worse, I made a shitty WHF conversion I've yet to paint.I stole a feathered cap from the old Empire line and gave it to my warboss
>>98468600I think they're very enjoyable to paint and have a wide variety of interesting models to choose from. They look really great in all kinds of colors from metallics to bright schemes to dark schemes and even weird garish ones. If you don't like edge highlighting dry brushing works pretty well for them too, but you can get some very stunning looks with their sharp edged armor if you work at it. When it comes to play they are a very technical Army. It's very fast except when it's not, it does tons of damage except when it doesn't, and you have a lot of units to trade with up until you don't. Notoriously a faction specialist Army because it takes a lot of game knowledge to know exactly where to use all your silver bullets to get good results and not just bounce off everything and die without doing anything. Like the infamous Incubi everyone is afraid of are just a 5 -2 2 damage profile that wouldn't get a second glance in most armies. But you can layer a bunch of buffs and fling them very far with transports to do a lot of damage at the right time in the right place.
>>98468666Fuck off; this isn't work in progress or painting general.
>>98468716You are brown and low IQ.
>>98468730She's exactly a nepo baby who is propped up because of her name alone and feels tremendous pressure to demonstrate she's worthy of that title and isn't just being used because of what her father meant to Cadia and the Imperium as a figurehead political tool to show that Cadia "still stands".
>>98468661This but unironically. EVERY xenos line should be expanded upon before another rimjobarch is dropped. Give me a flayer lord or expand on the destroyer cultGive me GSC nobility infiltratorsGive the Farsight Enclaves their own codex/indexExpand on all the neglected Ork klansAnd so on. 40K could get so much cooler shit than yet another Glup Shittarch
>>98468705I know that feel bro.what class are you rolling? I'll probably end up doing warrior again. I hate the leveling but the endgame is worth it.
>>98468741>She's exactly a nepo babyhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/bf8e8vip/astra-militarum-alert-new-units-sighted-and-classic-kits-reimagined/>Ursula Creed is the Lord Castellan of Cadia – and we dare any of you to tell her that she can’t hold the post simply because Abaddon destroyed that entire planet. Creed follows in her father’s footsteps – but while nepotism is alive and well in the 41st Millennium, this is no hereditary title. She's earned that mantle like her father before her, and is every bit as ruthless, tactical, and unflinching.your headcanon doesn't matter, she's not a nepobaby, she's a textbook girlboss
>>98468663>someone giving you a quick rundown on the lore and models is not an introduction I can see why you think a dude who’s played the game for over two decades is a secondary now.
>>98468708I have tried on multiple occasions to try and get them to paint there models, nobody, including the LGS itself is interestedthis is the type of shit they field and play onthey do not care about the appearance of an army, only if they get to play
>>98468739meant for >>98468708
>>98468749You sound very insecure about the fact you're a secondary.
>>98468753Good Lord. Back in 8th when my LGS was hosting tournaments we did a thing where unpainted armies started the game with less command points. That got em off their asses.
>>98468515I don't really bother with the Tertiary. You're either primary or secondary, you either game/paint/play or you're watching loretubers
>>98468753is this warhammer fantasy battles??
>>98468515>Primary: Greenskin enjoyer masterrace>Secondary: Lesser Xenos midwits>Tertiary: Space Babby faggots
>>98468766>round bases>sci fi scenery>space marines>pie platesclearly it's an old edition of 40k
>>98468765How recently does your last game need to be to not be a secondary in your stupid opinion? I have been playing since 4th but have not had a single game yet in 11th.
>>98468765soPrimary: game/paint/playSecondary: watching loretuber, reading books
>>98468758they bitch and moan about the 10vp painting rule, don't play with it collectively as an LGS and act like you're the asshole if you bring it up
>>98468771those arent pie plates
>>98468777pieplates, templates, pilates, same thing
I know it's slop, but just listing the units or showing them in a white void doesn't get the proper engagement.Would you buy an Iron Warriors battleforce that looked like this, if it included two of the new "upgrade" sprues?
>>98468783No. Absolutely not.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98468782they're representing skaven gnaw-holes
>>98468772I don't base it on how often you play. You (I assume) own armies and have played the game. You are a primary.
>>98468783Yes, but only because it includes two characters and the Defiler. Swap out the Maulerfiend/Forgefiend for a tank.
>>98468783>slop>dadydream about product
>>98468685This but female tzaangors>>98468697This but female kroots
>>98468792>dadydreamFreudian slip, much?
>>98468787You will weep when you see what they do to replace all those classic kits and watch those 5th ed prices get doubled
>>98468788No, they aren't.
>>98468595>Graves>generic girlbossDid you even read the story she was introduced in? What am I saying, of course you didn't. Graves is a complete idiot and jeopardizes the entire Armageddon operation with her moronic antics, she's definitely intended to be the typical commissar taken to an extreme to highlight just how fucking amazing Yarrick is. She doesn't just execute people with her pistol, she's got a fucking gatling gun to mow her own soldiers down with. She falls to Khorne by the end of the book because she's such a violent sperg.
>>98468804>She falls to Khorne by the end of the book because she's such a violent sperg.I don't believe you one bit since she's a named character.
>>98468804>Acts like a badass>Ruins everything for everyone>Still gets her own model and pushed by GWSo, a generic girlbossGood talk
>>98468804That's just an accidental result of writing girlboss characters: toxic masculinity gets used as a character trait for them but since they're women those are never showcased as negative traits or as bearing consequences except in a critical view by the reader himself who's clearly not engrossed in the character as the writer is.>jeopardizes the entire Armageddon operation>She falls to Khornethese are exaggerations and you know it
>>98468810Everyone does bloodthirsty murder all the time without falling to Khorne. You practically have to have nails in your brain to fall to Khorne.
>>98468795>female tzaangorsPeople would unironically like tzaangors more if they did this. Tzeentch has yet to realize that bird tits are en vogue this kalpa.
>>98468736buff stacking CCG bullshit is gay. Is there a glass cannon army that doesn't rely on the gay strategem/aura buff system and additional buff stack subsystems? You know, "your guys are squishy, but they deal a lot of damage to the right targets and are fast" with no extra frills
>>98468841that would be drukhari pre-8th ed anon
>>98468841It’s only going to get worse when Marines go up to T:5 soon. Then the glass cannon armies will just be glass
>>98468800>skaven on one side>stormcast on the otherits skaven gnaw-holes
>>98468552>>98468524>be me>get introduced to 40k by friend in school 22 years ago, he shows me his miniatures>go with him to store, mom buys me some space marines and a tank, with some paints>paint some shitty ultramarines. >not convinced, buy some dwarves from fantasy and paint those instead.>play a grand total of once (1 times) with borrowed figurines from friend>dawn of war soon comes out, play the shit out of it>drop WH entirely for 20 years>asmongold joins the hobby, I watch a couple of lore vids, a cheeky wiki article or three, and click on this threadIn short, it feels good to be a true primary fan, this place is stuffed with pòsers
>>98468841hilariously? eldar aspect host still has strategems and buffs, but it's not nearly as technical as drukhari or other eldar list, it's mostly just "buff your avatar or aspect warriors" strategems to use at very obvious moments and then psychic powers being used to put buffs on already good units. Which is funny, because eldar are supposed to be MORE buff stack focused than their dark eldar cousins
>>98468789I just got turned down a game because my would be opponent didn't want to face my mech Eldar. Feels bad man.
>>98468821I'm sure she'll be totally fine and this absolutely isn't the exact pipeline through which people become Khorne worshippers all the time.
>>98468847What the fuck? Why the fuck would they do that? Are the game designers retarded?
>>98468847It kind of already happens. Toughness creep has made damage breakpoints really bad for some units where you have S12 and obliterate something or you have S8 and do almost nothing. Not to mention how swingy D6+n damage is where you might spike or low roll and most big vehicles and monsters don't get punished by bracketing nearly enough to make chip damage worth much.
>>98468847First time I've heard of marines going to T5.
>>98468861BACK IN MY DAY we didn't fucking worry about all this chip damage this and toughness creep that and buff stacking here and aura buff there, you just shot a S10 weapon at something and it fucking died 9/10 times, hell, against most targets you could shoot a S8 weapon at something and it fucking died. None of this MTG-refugee crap.
>>98468841>Is there a[n] ... army that doesn't rely on the gay strategem/aura buff system and additional buff stack subsystems?Every army relies on this now thanks to Leaders, Supports, Army Rules, Detachment Rules, Enhancements, and Strategems. You're basically expected to have three to five layers of extra rules not on the data sheet of any given unit to get it to function.
opinions on this list for a 1k mont'ka army? the empty base is a ghostkeel i haven't built yet. is bringing the twin lance to a 1k game a dick move?
>>98468857>I'm sure she'll be totally fineyes, because she's a special character with a huge plastic modelhow dumb are you?
>>98468873sorry not mont'ka, kauyon
>>98468868Bullshit, I remember lash princes absolutely being a thing in like 4th edition and that was very much the sort of combo-mtg thing people purport to hate.
>>98468861Bring back crew shaken and disabled weapon status.I'd love persistent wrecks and facings for weapons and armor too but I guess that's hoping for too much.
>>98468857>"she falls to khorne">look inside >she doesn't fall to khorne
>>98468870what the fuck man. this is gay. do people actually like this shit or is it like one rules designer who really really likes MTG?
Here's some more models for the thread.
>>98468595>>98468625
>>98468859Yeah, a fairly reliable leaker said: >Tactcius: Up to S:5 T:5 with S:5 Bolt rifles and select Tacticus Marines get 3W >Phobos: +2” MV>Doctrines as the new Marine Army rule instead of Oath.
>>98468903Why do you think that?
>>98468907To match the new Ork statline
>>98468905How could we forget the two acclaimed fans favourites?
T5 Marines means T7 Plague Marines
>>98468914Orks are still 1W though, and are S5 because they removed the offensive buffs from their army rule and likely without the +1S and +1A from that they felt kind of anemic and not punchy enough.
>>98468907this sounds fucking horrible
what is the point of these guys over hearthguard?they seem completely redundant
>>98468915Do SoB collectors fall into your categorisation?
>>98468907I've supported bolters going to S5 for some time
>>98468907So are they finally going to make Tactical Marines worth taking by making them 5ppm cheaper than Intercessors?
>>98468907Elite Tacticus marines are already 3W though, see bladeguard and equivalents in other chapters (and chosen for csm too).
>>98468948GW lets the sculptors make whatever they want and worries about making the army list work later. It's a retarded system but it's what they have been doing for decades.
>>98468948One could ask the same of the Votran
>>98468931Nah, being two T points over a normal marine was daft, they can stay where they are
>>98468948making men of iron miniatures and paving the way for a subfaction/detachment/subrange of votann with only robots
>>98468958Where did you get this info?
>>98468962I would hope so, for some reason in the 10e votann codex they went out of their way to say ironkyn khals are a rare thing
>>98468958I've also heard this but never had it confirmed.
>>98468952They’re not Tacticus so no.
>>98468963My local GW's manager. He claimed he heard it from the regional manager.
>>98468963Do you think the Death Guard sculptor guy made 40 unique plague marine sculpts they repurposed into character models because he was directed to by the rules team?
Female office workers are a lot like tech priests
>>98468958This is consistent with what I've heard. GW see themselves as a model company first not a game company and they think the sculptors are who sells the models not the rules team.
>>98468963theyve said that many times in every interview, it's models -> lore -> rules
>>98468982When you beat them they screech really loudly?>>98468976I mean that could be the case for one army but for the entirety of 40k? I doubt it.
LE LE ECKS DEE XD I LIKE GSC LE XDXD :DD ECKS DEE XD
>>98468976GW fucken loves spamming characters though, if just to meet this 'everyone always gets SOMETHING when it's their turn' standard
>>98468948Well they're cheaper points-wise to start. They're also a little harder to kill at 3W per guy and while they can't do both shooting and melee well like hearthguard can, they're both (slightly) better at their specialization than hearthguard at either when you factor in their datasheet abilities. They're more of a supplement to your footsloggers to help you hold ground and keep the enemy from pushing into you, while the hearthguard drop in from deepstrike somewhere else and help you take ground.
>>98468998they don't know why they do anything, they just repeat tasks as a rote set of steps ritualistically.
>>98468958There is no way GW doesn't mandate every sculptor to also make Space Marines in addition to whatever else armies they get assigned.
>>98469009I think space marines are the bitch work you have to do before you have seniority.40k in general probably, the sculptors with clout probably all work on AoS or Necromunda where they can do what they want, while 40k is the cash cow they demand certain things get done on.
>>98468798Drukhari is already the 5th most expensive army in the game by cost/point ratio of current kits. And all the other expensive armies already are mostly brand new (besides Tau). So they're probably going to end up being Sisters of Battle tier after their refresh, if not competing with AdMech. AdMech is getting more Elite again over time though and it seems highly unlikely Drukhari end up more elite when they have pretty much become the horde version of Craftworlds.
>>98468873At least you arent bringing riptides
>>98468948Elite footsloggers vs Deepstrikers
>>98469015I think the work is a bit more directed than that. There are usually art directors who do a bunch of concept work for each model or range of models before they get passed to the sculptors to model them. Most models probably have a general draft they are supposed to work from to execute on the artistic vision of the director. There's probably some back and forth between the groups though and I'm sure one influences the other too and allows for some personal interpretation.
>>98468804>>98468857>girlboss defender is a tertiary who can’t readMANY SUCH CASES
How do you think undivided csm and traitor guard prevent their dudes from falling to a specific god? I'd imagine that having unga bunga retard khornates in your group would be enough of a problem, but any amount of tzeenchfags, nurglefags, or slaaneshfags would almost certainly fuck everything up if left to fester.
>>98468907>Marines get T5>now every guard army is even more skewed with MORE lascannon heavy weapon squads, Ogryns, walkers and tanks to even be able to consistently damage generic marine line infantry (despite the only comp rosters that win being filled with these instead of battleline already)>every sisters army becomes even more dependent on Vahl and Castigators tanking hits while SoB squads hide on objectives, Sisters become a "play for points" (read: not fun) faction>but Tau are completely fine, because Pulse Blasters are S6This is a horrible idea, turning every single SM infantry unit into half-of-a-tank is going to do nothing good for the game.
>dg have high toughness and everything has lethal hitsthese fuckers sound like they are broken. ive never played against them though
>>98468907i hate this shitty power creep. boyz shouldve never been strength 5
>>98469041There's no way to stop them from falling to one specific god or another, but it's very hard for random individuals to attract the eye of the gods like that and once enough people move towards a certain god then you either join, fight them, or split the band.From abbadon and his closest circle there's an attempt to have an "anti-chaos" philosophy trickle down onto other marines and cultists, proselytising about how it's dumb and gay to bend the knee to one good and instead they should be undivided stoics, who reap the benefits because the gods find them that awesome but without ever committing, but that wank never truly permeates into most chaos warbands; turns out mutants, heretics and traitors chase short term gains, who would have thought!Also there's the word bearers preaching about the path of chaos undivided, but their version means bending the knee to all of them equally, plus to some other demons too.It's most probably them making the hardest and most effective attempts at instructing undivided cults.
>>98468907>more stupid power creep>worse, GW being GW means marines will get this and then other armies will have to wait months/years before they're allowed to match itIt's gonna be the bullshit from 9th all over again where CSM get forced to wait 2 years before they get to have 2 wounds for no reason.
>>98468730She's literally Creeds bastard. Her mom was some orderly Creed fucked while he was away on business. She only saw her dad twice in her life before she died. She spent most of her life with her mothers maiden name and people only started calling her Creed after her dad died and the imperium needed a line of continuity.There is what people on warhammer community say to hype up a model release and then there is actual canon.
>>98469070>There is what people on warhammer community say to hype up a model releaseIt clearly didn't hype anyone about her
Post models
>>98469059he also works on some sort of construction site, it would be a shame if the boys found out that he was into vtuber shit
>>98468923I actually really like that Commissar
>>98469086ive only got greytide on my desk atm
>>98468899>or is it like one rules designer who really really likes MTG?it's this+leage of legends from 8th edition (10 years ago)
I should start taking pictures of my models with my own merch so I can free infinite (You)s
did the guardfags finally stop complaining?
>>98469112Go away Bricky.
>>98469081Well yeah, marketeers aren't human and have no idea what people actually want. I genuinely miss when GW didn't do marketting.
>>98469113NoThey will never stop complaining
>>98469113>bro what do you mean guard is bad? You can win if you just buy 4 baneblades, now only $235 each!cmon bro
>>98469068Since the leaker didn’t say anything about Firstborn, CSM are probably staying S4 T4 2W, with S4 bolters.
>>98469086my models for the collage
>>98469121I have yet to face guard in 11th. Are they really that bad?
>>98469086
>>98469113Guardfags are the most consistently whiny group in the hobby who ACTUALLY play. The whining is eternal.
>>98469048They are in a really rough spot.
>>9846913010 Guardsman are nearly the same price as 5 Intercessors or 10 boyz. They can win with effort and some skew but it’s a bit rough
>>98469048They’re very good but tend to be balanced on a knife edge. Slight point changes can completely fuck them, they’re also pretty slow so skilled players can work around them and still score.
>>98469090Posts like this is proof that you retards don't go outside or talk to real people because no one actually cares about that shit anymore. No one cares if you're in to plastic soldier men and anime girl streamers. Yeah, normalfags probably think its weird but it's not like being slightly weird is a social death sentence. Life isn't some kids show set in high school.
>>98469139The guard player I know fields almost all vehicles and like 1 or 2 squads of infantry. I still have issues beating him with anything other than my Eldar because I spam pulse lasers and bright Lance's in those games.
>>98469090Niggas pull up to construction sites with anime wraps on their trucks. Nobody cares
What would it take to make the Imperial Guard good at offensive operations?
>>98469165Bringing back blast templates.
>>98469135Impossible. Eldar fans definitely play the game because that's the only reason to like Eldar.
>>98469174This. I play Orks and Eldar. I usually play Orks to have a casual game but when I feel like I really need a win I breakout the Eldar.
>>98469149>>98469162its time for you to stop ratfag, none of that is true
>>98469201NTA but my parts guy literally has a mug that says “I paused my anime for this”
>>98469174Aren't Eldar like bottom tier in 10th and 11th too? I've seen more than a few competitive tierlists to that effect.
>Abaddon felt a mixture of triumph and bitterness as he watched them go. On the one hand, his moment of victory had arrived — the loyalists were fleeing and he had exacted a colossal butcher’s bill upon them. Scores of broken wrecks tumbled through the void or had been reduced to slowly expanding debris clouds. Between the void battle and the surface war, shocking numbers of loyalist Space Marines had been slain. The Unforgiven Chapters might never regain the strength they had possessed before this day. On the other hand, Abaddon still felt victory was incomplete, especially in light of the news that Lion El’Ionson had stepped from ancient history to rejoin the Long War. The Despoiler could not help but wonder — in light of Guilliman’s Indomitus Crusade, what impact a second loyalist Primarch would have upon the wider strategic picture.I expected Abaddon to be more bothered with the Lion's return. He just went "meh".
>>98469149>>98469162>>98469223lmao, ratfag COPE
>>98469225At the end of the day he is just one guy
>>98469174>that's the only reason to like eldarother than their amazing models?
>>98469130Fwiw, in the "tourney meta" there are 2 guard rosters that have gone undefeated.One was 4 baneblades and as many bullgryns and ogryns as you can fit in a 2k point game tanking damage.The other was:>6 heavy weapon squads (3 Krieg, 3 Catachan), all with 3x lascannons>3 Cadian recon squads (objectively better than line infantry, and only cost 5 points more)>2 Krieg combat engineers with remote mines>1 20-man Krieg infantry squad for battleline>Ursula Creed, Lord-Marshal Dreir, Gaunt's Ghosts and an Ogryn Bodyguard>Cadian castellan and a command squad on a 20-man Cadian squad>Scion command squad on a 10-man Scions squad>1 Scout SentinelThis list was played by the guy setting his lascannons and recon squads up on chokepoints to prevent the other player (EC) from moving out of cover with his tanks, so the guard player just walked his infantry around the map and won on points.Guard right now is extremely skill-of-player and luck-of-dice dependent. The guard "fantasy" of Dorn and Russ tanks supporting infantry (or the other way around) conquering the field is extremely far from the tourney meta.>oh but I don't play tourneysGW balances around tourneys, so eventually you WILL have to care about how they balance the game due to them.
>>984691395 intercessors and 10 boyz are going up in points considerably with their imminent new codexes
>>98469224That only happened in the last 6 months of 10th edition after four rounds of massive nerfs to their army.
>>98469223>nta>another ratfag postThe fucking state of it
With all of this power creep will points go up so much that we can finally field smaller armies at 2k?
>>98469252Doubt it. Armies with last edition’s codexes will suffer the new power creep until they get theirs.
>>98469252Up for about a year before every balance patch makes undesirable units cheaper and cheaper again and cramped tables return.
>>98469224Yeah Eldar have been pretty shit for a while now.
>>98469224They were broken at the start because of an abusable combo, nerfed down, broken at codex launch because of a rule combo & favorable meta, and then obliterated from orbit with a quadruple nerf.
>>98469068>making marines tougher than DG while also making them faster than eldarthe rubicon primaris and its consequences have been a disaster for 40k.
>>98469257Unfortunately they’re not Necrons so they actually receive meaningful nerfs.
>>98469224My Eldar still win the majority of games I play with them in my local non-competative meta.
Can't they just release all of the codicies at once? The gameplay would be hilarious until the next dataslate but it would at least stop the constant buff / nerfs after one codex release
>>98469291That wouldn't look like quarterly growth to the investors.
>>98469068>>98469271Just play space marines retards lmao thats what I’m doingOr orks
>>98469252There's not really a consistent pattern to it. Sometimes GW ratchets up the points on an army and then has to adjust them back down later and sometimes GW decides an elite army is now a horde army and cuts points massively. Those are most notable in index editions where they change everyone's points at the same time.
>>98469291no, they make more money by spacing them apart
>>98469291Not as effective from a marketing perspective and also theoretically periodic releases would allow for fine tuning between each codex releaseBut of course GW fine tunes with a sledgehammer and a blindfold on so
Chaos players be like: Yeah our lists have lots of diversity sometimes we take 2 Defilers instead of 3.
>>98469291can't do that because then the paypiggies wouldn't be incentivized to buy a new army every 2 months as the codices are released.
>>98469295>>98469301>>98469307Its all about the fucking shekels isn't it
>>98469291They could, and they did that for horus heresy, but then they wouldn't align with model kit releases and its more awkward to do fomo box + new codex + dice + limited edition thing releases which are good ways to drive sales particularly with 3rd party retailers who have limited shelf space that they want to rotate the very latest thing through.
Can someone explain how local metas work and some examples? I'm a nogames and I'd think that the meta is just generally the meta with some counterbuilds.t. picrel
>>98469314>here's your $200 kit but OOOPS it's only going to let you use TWOOO~ of the the six weapons it comes with, that you paid for!>what's that, you want to use them all? FUCK YOU, GO BUY A DRILL AND MAGNETS AND BRASS AND--Always has been.
>>98469314always has been, you should never buy a codex in current year
>>98469338>got back into the game and bought 10th ed rules AND nid codex last yeartake me behind the barn and shoot me.
>>98469311Don’t worry with the new Ork & Marine books they’ll need all 3.
>>98468899no one actually likes it, people just cope with it because at the end of the day people just wanna move models and throw dice. it's also probably some sort of psyop to help sell HH as a game, they make 40k worse to help sell a better ruleset that's condemned to the HH containment zone.
>>98468550Glupshittion brutallty pauldronmogged by Goobermungus. Fluffcels are seething
>>98469314I mean of course yeah lol its a companyTens of thousands of people and by extension hundreds of thousands of their family members are directly tethered to games workshop income
>>98469335Real jewishness would be if you didn't include all the weapons in the kit and sold each loadout separately. Thankfully James isn't that bad ye- OH MY GOODNESS
>>98469328My local meta has 3 Ork, 3 Marine, 2 IG, 1 Necron, 1 Tau, 1 CSM and 1 Eldar. Occasionally I'll see something else at the LGS but these are the main people who show up the majority of open gaming days. Is there more specific info you are looking for?
>>98469328local meta are the armies being played in your local area/group. my group is 7 dudes and we only have 2 marine players but we have 5 who play imperial guard.
I'm happy Saturnines are Canon
>>98469368>"what do you mean I have to buy more than one kit?!"
>>98469353this is all fucking robin cruddace's fault
>>98469376They've been canon for well over a decade. But if you're happy with the 30k Centurion abortion they produced, more power to you.
>>98469353The HH game will move into the Scouring with a firstborn refresh and then expand into 40k Classic.>source: it was revealed to me in a dream
>>98469369>>98469371I see. I thought local meta specifically meant a focus in listbuilding across the locally-played armies, eg; greg's guard, steve's space marines, and timmy's tau are all parking lot lists.
First ever Warhammer box and this is gonna be the first time working with minis.Was thinking of following https://youtu.be/1hYIXdRnXEs way of painting to make the Ork's look rusty and lively.Will look into more assembly/mold line cleaning stuff just in case as that's the stuff that I'm most preplexed about. But I am now officialy no longer a secondary.Any lesser known tips you wanna share bros?
>>98468804Pls post book. Sounds too good to be true.
>>98469174Eldarfags and guardfags complain about as often as one another.Thing is Eldarfags are literal fags so you expect them to bitch and moan. Guardfags stick in my mind far more as a result because of the difference between how they present themselves vs how they act.
>>98469043Sorry, Marine players are still incapable of recognizing that their army exists as the pivot point for all statlines in the game, even after being given TWO separate band aids to keep them from feeling like their precious babies aren't tough enough like in the cool Secret Level episode.
>>98469284Is this actually a widespread opinion? I feel like I'm constantly being gaslit everytime I say Necrons get handled with kiddie gloves and everyone tells me they're totally fine now and well balanced.
>>98468595they thought the could get away with "Creeding" Yarrick. it is so painfully obvious
>>98469388>move into scouring then 40k classic>making marinepiggies rebuy their army another 2 times(you) know damn well this will happen if GW thinks they can get away with it.
Thinking of starting Chaos Daemon army for both 40K and to dip my toes in Sigmar. Should I start with buying the World Eater Daemonkin battleforce and sell off the world eaters that come in the set and only keep the bloodcrushers and letters. I calculated that it's still slightly cheaper to buy this than to buy them separately even if I have to sell off the world eaters at 40% off retail. Then maybe buy the Hedonites of Slaanesh spearhead since all the units coming with that expect the character are 40K legal.Then maybe buy some slaves to darkness to act as coalition allies for both Hedonites of Slaanesh and Blades of Khorne. And with that I'd have a 40K Chaos Daemon army and an AOS Blades of Khorne and Hedonites of Slaanesh army.
>>98469390i dont think youll have a good time with that primer and those paints... make sure you post progress pics
>>98469390good youtuber to follow if you want to waste loads of money on the useless shit he promotes as life-changing.
>>98469376Cool art
>>98469389Local meta can refer to Army representation at your LGS, but it can also just refer to patterns in the ways people play. At the competitive tournament level people may be moving towards MSU and hordes to better engage with the current missions and terrain layouts of the newest tournament packet, while at your local level everyone is still playing giant tanks and monsters and you need to adjust your list building expectations accordingly. Not to mention lots of places have different terrain layout they use like UKTC/WTC/GW that drastically affect the balance of the game and favor different army composition
>>98469419Maybe post alternatives
>>98469426Not him and I havent followed the convo at all but look into vince venutura. Hes just about the only hobby youtuber I can follow, and the only warhammer figure I can stand.
>>98469417BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
>>98469390you don't need mold liner cleaning tools, a simple craft knife will do. the exacto will not really handle the job, get a pen knife with the twist-off replacable blades.you should also get yourself a small set of needle files and, depending on how detailed you want to get, a small twist drill for drilling out your gun barrels.those paints are good starters, but you'll want to pick up some varnish, maybe some technical washes from citadel or army painter, they're pricey but nuln oil and agrax earthshade make certain steps much easier, and can work magic on metallics, which I don't see in your pic, so maybe look for a basic silver. maybe consider picking up some brushes for dry-brushing, the fluffy rounded kind.
>>98469431is he the fag who made an american aircraft carrier for his skydwarf army and said it fit perfectly with the lore of AoS (because anything goes)?
i dont want to be mean but this looks like the most cursed new player starter pack i have ever seen.>automotive primer>box cutter>big box store acrylics>hardware store nippers>2 part epoxyGood luck and god speed anon
>>98469344Return to biomass and return when new codex drops
>>98469390>vidIt's nice he only does it with the paints included in the set. I recommend you stick to those if those aren't dedicated mini paints on the left side of pic and just basic craft paints.Don't worry about making mistakes.
>>98469390Holy SOVL
>>98469328Local Meta doesn't really exist anymore. GW cultivated a competitive media sphere where people just copy the same lists from over and over.
>>98469390what klan you painting the orks? >>98469472>big box store acrylicstbf, the ork box comes with paints, so as long as he isn’t retarded he should be fine.
>>98469328It doesn't really exist anymore because the Internet's centralized everything. People pull from the same sources and netlists, and there are people that wring every advantage out of the rules before putting it in an article for others to read up on.
>>98469503right. anon shouldnt use the paint that is not in that box. especially those tubes. like 0 coverage with them
>>98469431Vinnie V skips or rushes through too many steps these days. He very obviously got bored/burned out a couple of years ago and doesn't want to be making painting videos any more. His older stuff where he was more patient and less surly about repeating himself are good for intermediate painters, I've gone back and watched the ones on on different hair colours a few times.Ninjon is a very good painter but the most shameless shill for useless tat like postcard swatches.
>>98469511Some areas will have 3 dorks always playing knights and ruin the game for everyone who doesn't adapt to them.
>>98469449I have a craft knife, I've heard basic sharp blade will do. Just careful about not damaging.Thanks I'll look into those in the future.>>98469472I'm gonna use the GW black primer and the paints that come with Orks. Those others are there for trying out on 3D prints I'm gonna get from fren.Gonna use the loctite over epoxy, heard it's decent. But I'll not rely on glue if push fots are good. Heard these were GW's best ones, I'll see how they fit>>98469503Goffs
>>98469472Tbf I got a pretty good set of acrylic inks from Michael's that I quite like. And oils you always buy from craft stores. I also found that Michael's sells Pro Acryl High flow the other day. For a huge chain crafts store it's landing some good hits these days.Box cutter and nippers are fine for now but anon desperately needs sandpaper or steel needle files.I'm assuming the automotive primer is troll and he's just gonna use the GW black.2 part epoxy is certainly a choice for an early modeller, I'd personally recommend greenstuff and or milliput white superfine.Would also recommend the cheap God hands but you know, that's for later and mostly convenience. I used stuff I had in my toolbox when I started too.
>>98469231Roboute is one guy, and he saved the Imperium from collapsing
>>98469390nigga please just go to a hobby lobby and buy sprue cutters, foam nail files, and super glue/plastic cement all in the modeling section for $30 i am begging you nigga
>>98469543No, he didn't, the imperium would have acted regardless
>>98469405I don’t know if it’s widespread but it’s true.
>>98469405I mean the Ynnari got guillotined so yeah, kid gloves.
>>98469532When my friend and I got back into the hobby for 8th, one of the local 'that guys' played knights and would get visibly excited whenever it was clear he was winning. He'd get really upset if a single roll didn't go his way, he also used the knight dice with the hard-to-read pips and would pick them up before you could read them only to make up a result afterwards. Guess he liked skew armies.
>>98469543No, he hasn't. All the time being pointed out thay Guilliman's revival has done actually fuck all for the Imperium.It is still a shambling corpse of an empire where your life means nothing.
>>98469546but I’ve heard hobby lobby is really homophobic tho :/
>>98469542you are going to want to snip those push fit nubs and glue them with plastic glue otherwise you will get really bad gaps
>>98469582the new armageddon orks are really not that bad in that regard
>>98469546You can also find all of those (sans plastic cement) at nearly any supermarket in the US for comparable prices.The cutters will also be better quality and easier to use if you buy them from somewhere like Walmart or a hardware store, hobby store cutters never hold an edge and are made of butter-hard steel IME.
>>98469093We all do, it's the best modern commissar model they made and it was a FOMO box
>>98469578As long as you ain't a fag it shouldn't be an issue.
>>98469578doesnt matter. get the right supplies or get regret. "Buy it nice or buy it twice" is a real thing
>>98468948I like them (except the feet of the middle guy) but I really hate the lack of weapon options.>melee & bolteror>volkite gunWhy just volkite? Why not a bolt weapon? We're paying a premium for the bare minimum.
>>98469578Don't go in there in fag flag clothing or suck a dick in the bathroom and you will not have any problems.
>>98469578So is /40kg/ so watch yourself, pal
>>98469532It's ok to list tailor and even cheat when playing against Knightfags, their "army" has no place in 40k
>>98469588>>98469590>>98469595>Give your money to people who hate you!!He bought Orks, not black templars.
>>98469567Some people are just like that. I was playing battletech a couple months ago and my opponent was raging about his biggest mech whiffing when he killed one mech and crippled another in his first turn of shooting and I didn't do shit in return other than plink at some armor.I got completely rolled that game but somehow my opp was the mad one for like half of the game despite making some ungodly rolls
>>98469582I mean I said "for now" and even suggested buying God hands later on.He's definitely going to need to smooth shit out regardless of how nice the clippers are.What's disagreeable about my advice?
>>98469611I used to play 40k with a guy like that. Anytime his luck was bad he threw a fit. When we first met he was a better player than me so it was rare but once I got significantly better at the game during 5th edition (because we were playing for objectives instead of meatgrinder) it became more and more common at which point we rarely had games against one another anymore.
>>98469598Truth. The Knight Player typically will only show up to public game nights where most people won’t have list swap units to fight him.
>>98469577lil bro said the imperium still isnt utopian paradise so having a god-king running the show is actually meaningless
>>98469628I have yet to even meet a Knight player in my area.
>>98469625Nothing. Just throwing some extra experienced based advice on top
>>98469081Give it a few years and they'll give Actual Creed a new model and a return in a campaign book. Non-zero chance they bring Kell back too somehow despite him being dead.
>>98469637>monkey paw curlsCreed returns as a dual necron/guard army allowing you to take 500 points of guard in your necron army if trayzn is your warlord
>>98469633That's because they aren't meta anymore. Knights are a "piggy army", they have no real lore or aesthetic appeal. They only become popular when they are OP. Just like Tau and Votann
>>98469645He'll return in a character box with two other characters that will never be mentioned ever again after the campaign book.
Chaos Knights are cool and suck, there's a lesson there.
>>98469645>an actual fun, narrative ruleitll never happen
>>98469599Have you tried just not being a faggot?What on earth makes any of you think that this thread would have an ounce of pity for a faggot that's too gay to go to a hobby store?
>>98469578This wasn't me>>98469546Don't really have hobby stores where I'm at (Balkan small town) couldn't find the plastic cement glue, heard the loctite was decent for minis. I'll see how the cutters fit, I'll get thinner head more precise ones if these don't work well
>>98469660they suck because fuckstick GW made their army shtick battleshock
>>98469660Fact
>>98469668no model train shops or hobby or craft shops at all?
>>98469599For the record the guy talking about fag shit is not me, the Ork newfag.>>98469676No, there is one in one of the big towns a few hours away. No WH stuff anywhere, just a generic cract store tho.
>>98469669Has battleshock EVER affected a game? Even the retarded morale system of 8e-9e had an impact
>>98469599Literally just act normal and don't be or dress like a flaming homo that you can spot from a 100 metres away.
>>98469688Bummer, must be a real out of the way place. At least Amazon has pretty much everything covered these days apart from some niche items or specific brands.
>>98469688Did you check the GW "find a store" thing? I found a store like 30 minutes from me in a tiny bumfuck nowhere town from it when I thought my closest (3rd party) game store was over an hour's drive in the other direction.It's at least worth looking at to see if you've glossed over or missed one. Just searching "hobby store near me" is often going to give you craft stores, RC car/model rocket/DnD-centric stores, so a more specialized search would be more helpful.
>>98469692Demon lists get a lot out of them I think.
>>98469694No, he can even do that. There is no real evidence of le heckin homofobya except the fact that the CEO is a Christian and they give money to Christian NGOd
>>98469692Battleshock is good now though.
>>98469704Yeah, there are none in my country.There are some craft stores without TT stuff in the town I mentioned in previous post.
Should sisters of battle be pretty femme-angels or should they be man-faced hags with smokers voices?
>>98469719they should what sells and not what some marxist thinks would 'own the chuds'
>>98469719They should be actual female marines. Give them genemods.
>>9846971980's era punk rocker chicks clad in leather with flame throwers
>>98469541>goffsman, that one dude who has been shilling goffs for the past few weeks must be jumping with joy right now.
>>98469692When it actually works and in certain circumstances, it matters a lot. The problem is that it happens so infrequently and the situations where it affects scoring/strats are so infrequent that the two rarely overlap.
>>98469719pretty femme angels with battlescars and smokers voices
Fuck space sharks
>>98469757>impfistfagyou're into scat, we get it
>>98469760fistcel seething
>>98469757cool space wolf
>>98469757wot is ‘dis ‘umie doin’ posin’ as us blood axes?
>>98469694>>98469711>YOU HAVE TO GIVE YOUR MONEY TO ZIONIST CONSERVATIVES OR ELSE!!!!!!you can simply choose not to spend your money at those places
Rare look into the Votann R&D department.
>>98469748HuhThought they would be more popular, aren't they the posterboys atm?
>>98469719My headcanon is that the same faith psychic aura that lets them do miracles also keeps them pretty, cause Emps related miracles are pretty, like living saints with angel wings.
>>98469782Nobody said you have to give them your money, we just told you to not act like a faggot.But seeing how you post, that is beyond your capabilities.
>>98469791you don't need gay magic bullshit to justify good lookssisters of battle are a propaganda tool as much if not more than an actual weapon of war, one of their points is to be seen by the populations, of course the ecclesiarchy would spend untold amounts for aesthetic surgeries and makeup, like they spend on gothic decorations on equipment and buildings
>>98469778>magazine AND beltHow Belgian.
>>98469789>aren’t they the posterboys? they are, which is exactly why people in /40kg/ avoid them like the plague. most popular here is deathskulls with bad moons taking second place.
>>98469714I see now, I missed that in the reply chain.I simply don't believe the "not even a model train store" thing though, model train fags have immense power in having stores in every armpit of the world. You're in a former Yugo country, not Transnistria, there has to be SOMETHING, somewhere, unless you literally can't leave your tiny village.You also have an internet connection, so you have the entire world to shop from, and if you live in Croatia/Slovenia (can't tell from the language on the parchment, it's the same phrase in all the former Yugo languages) you have Euros, which saves you from the worst of the assrape currency conversion costs.>loctite was decent for minisDon't use loctite for mini assembly. Anyone saying this is hopefully talking about loctite-branded superglue, not threadlocker. Threadlocker won't work well.The chemical name for plastic cement is Butanone, it's methyl ethyl ketone in nearly all cases. You should be able to find it as it's a simple chemical solvent used in PVC plumbing as a cleaner before installation.>cuttersGo get literally any set of side cutters you can get at a hardware store, they'll do the same job that craft cutters will but will be more durable and therefore last longer.
>>98469807there’s also like 5 scopes on the gun, so its clear that ork in particular likes his redundancies.
>>98469806That's gay them being pretty because of magic religious aura is cooler
>>98469835they are pretty because my wiener wills them to be soand so it was
>>98469719They should cost less.
>>98469835It isn't, it's really fucking stupid.Also if your faith determined how good you look in 40k then every god damn person would look like a super model because basically every person is a fanatical worshipper of the Emperor.Your idea is just dumb on a fundamental level.
>>98469840They aren't strippers or prostitutes though?
>>98469719/yourorder/ can be whatever you want it to be
>>98469849I wouldn't be so sure, have you ever watched The Devils starring Oliver Reed? Nuns can get freaky.
>>98469845anon sisters have like omni-faith or something its not that crazy that they would specifically be blessed with youthful vitality or something compared to just normal mud-grovelers, many of which actually do doubt the emperor somewhat since their lives suck dickhaving said that you are arguing about literal make-believe, lets cool it a bit
>>98469862Kek
>>98469864>anon sisters have like omni-faith or somethingNo, they fucking don't. Stop getting your "lore" from reddit, retard.
>>98469599>>98469782Erm chuddie???Separate the art from the artist much???
>>98469871uh oh meltie
Sisters lore is cool and all but it's also weirdly inconsistent with how faith works in the rest of the 40k universe. They're like the one Catholic knight in a high fantasy setting that feels like someone's specific fetish they are trying to force in.
>>98469297sorry, I don't have any interest in playing HH, but it sounds like that's where you belong.
>>98469858/tg/'s catalog being full of retarded ass questions like>"What color should imperial guard be? Normal or woke?"or>"what type of magic should piss elves use on tuesdays during a full moon?"pisses me off to no end. It's your army. It's your setting. You fucking decide if you want a navajo themed IG regiment or if piss magic is a real thing. I swear like 95% of /tg/ doesn't even play traditional games. It's a shitpost dumping ground for rejects that are too ill behaved to exist for any length of time in other spaces IRL or online.
>>98469884That's because gw doesn't know what they want faith to be.
>>98469840>Sisters cost 100 for t3w1 infantry that die to a sneeze>Dominions cost 90 for t3w1 infantry that die to a sneeze, but you can have 4 meltas (which makes them cost 110 instead)>Nundams cost 180 for t7w4 vehicles that are only meant to bodyguard for Morvenn, but you can have 3 meltas (which makes them cost 210 instead)>Retributors cost 105 for 5 t3w1 heavy infantry that can have 4 multi-meltas (which makes them cost 125 instead)>Castigators cost 165 for at most a S10 main gun against so many factions having T12 vehiclesSisters in general need a dedicated look-over to everything they have. They have low strength weapons for their class, very few AP options, and when every army is creeping upwards in toughness checks (and so many players you fight end up being marinefags that have even more of them) both of these end up killing the utility of the entire faction.Even if miracle dice WERE guaranteed 6s, there aren't enough of them to have a meaningful impact in a game.
>>98469897None of those threads are intended to be about traditional games, correct. It's people fishing for softcore porn or posts to scrape into a EPIC MEMEPILATION youtube video. Or in the case of bumpfag threads, so bizarre obsession with the continued existence of the thread itself
>>98469924Dw they’ll get buffs when their codex drops
>>98469924I feel like they had a clear design in 9th and just didn't really make the transition to 10th well at all when all their rules got "simplified" and their Strength did not stretch to match new toughness numbers so that the whole army was propped up by faith dice making up for clear gaps and weaknesses. Then when they nerfed faith dice they kicked the last leg out from under the table.
>>98469897There is a concentrated effort by schizophrenics to dilute /tg/ with fake threads endlessly bumped to oblivion to drown out any actual discussion. This has been going on for about a decade now.
>>98469933orks intentionally making dummy tanks/aircraft for ‘umies to piss their pants at and waste bombs on is 100% some shit orks get up to.
>>98469897while on the topic of ass questions, do I wipe my ass front to back or back to front after pooping? thanks.
>>98469941I think people just act like dumb retards sometimes
Any news on the multipart kit for the new intercessors?
Space wolves are just larpers. The actual nordics fought against big E and died. Honestly lemme put my tin foil hat on and say that the eradication of Scandinavia in lore and the absolute flanderized faggotry that is the space wolves is a deliberate swing at nordics because the bongs are still seething about the viking conquests more than 1000 years later.Can any britbong confirm?
This man is in charge of retrieving the cum.
>>98469977>Space wolves are just larpers. The actual nordics fought against big E and died.That is pretty funny.
>>98469979He is nothing compared to the man who carries The Cum Keg.
>>98469786>GW tries to make Votann different than generic space dwarves>Makes them so bland and uninteresting people just apply other fictional space dwarves onto them
>>98469977Wouldnt be surprisedIdeological warfare type shit
>>98470001Is there a more boring faction with worse lore than VOTANN in 40k?
>>98469977based nordicslive free or die
>>98470006Simply doesn't exist>Lore: Mutants ruled by dark age schizophrenic AI's (pretty cool)>Models: Starcraft 2>Playstyle: Tau-lite
>>98470006eldar
>>98469719vat grown experiments by a heretek biologis trying to figure out how the fuck they do miracles
>>98470022>how the fuck they do miraclesBy worshipping the Emperor's splintered warp god fragments
>>98469932I just wish Sisters had SOMETHING, they're extremely one-dimensional with little variance in what you can bring, and they aren't even good in that one dimension. Every one of the Sisters "power fantasies" is done better somewhere else.
>Chaos marines when facing literal angelic beings >"Yeah we're the good guys death to the imperium"
>>98470037Maybe chaos makes their perception fucky. To them maybe angels look monsterous and they themselves look like based gigachads free of corruption.
>>98469961There's acting stupid and then there's a dude making a thread talking about styles of mapmaking or the morality of pooping that has no one interacting but always gets bumped just before it falls od the catalog.
>>98470037Sanguinius was an angel and he was an asshole.
>>98469972There's no fucken news at allIt's like GW forgot they just released a new edition
>>9847003740k inhabitants aren’t actively aware of Christian loreLike chaos astartes have no frame of reference for what “angelic” meansThey associate these angelic characteristics with the Emperor who is deeply flawed
>>98470057I was more talking about living saints
>>98469835You clearly have no idea of what's cool and what's not
>>98470006space marines of any flavor
>>98470037if israeli soldiers started dressing themselves as angels, would you suddenly think they're the good guys and that you're the evil guys?
>>98470071
>>98470064>who is deeply flawedThat's not part of the imperials' belief system.
>>98470079If they sprouted actual angel wings and glowing halos and cutting planes and tanks in half with flaming swords in a way that I could observe was not AI, I might consider it
>>98470079If israeli soldiers grow angelic wings and can stave off demons maybe they're right
>>98470083I understand that, Chaos marines recognize that the end result of the Emperor’s actions, and by extension the Emperor himself, are deeply flawed
Don't american evangelicals already think of Israel's war in the middle east as some sort of End Times narrative campaign?
I just had a thought. Are there any psykers who are inducted into the Cult of Mars? Surely Mars and other Forge worlds produce at least some psykers, so is it a possibility that there's a handful of techpriests who are also psykers? Just imagine some borged out asshole with a plasma cannon coming out of his back who can also blow you up with his mind.
>>98470099I know faggots like to come in here and shitpost but this is so profoundly off-topic I won’t tolerate it
>>98470079I don't really care, neither side eat bacon and thus deserve none of my time or pity.
>>98470107Sounds like a good Dark Mech option to distinguish them.Really they though, where do you think they get the 10000 psykers a day to feed the throne? Mars is literally the second place they are gonna look after Terra itself.
>>98470107getting borged is antithetical to having SOVL, for reasons...
>>98470086>in a way that I could observe was not AIThen you can understand why the chaosfags don't fall fot it, they see the wings are decorative attachments to power backs, the flaming swords are energy weapons, and the miracles are warp stuff that ultimately goes back to the warp, as far as they know
>>98470134They might also just know that bird wings and flaming swords are an Emperor thing and they hate that guy so
>>98470126There's no essence drain for amputation and cyberware here. There are several types of implants that actual boost psychic power.
>>98469824>loctite-branded superglueI got the super glue.Thanks for the other tips.Wondering how viable is it to just push fit the minis? Saw some YT guys doing it for the starter set/armaggedon, looked fine no noticable gaps
>>98470134Sisters of Battle are just a Coven of Sorceresses with good PR
>>98470037>Why are you opposing Israel, don't you know they're the kingdom from the Bible?
>>98469824>>98470161SamefagBtw for the first part, I'm in BiH we have very few of those here. I didn't say not a single hobby story, but not a single GW store. There are GW stores in Croatia and Serbia
>>98470151>There's no essence drain for amputation and cyberware here.I'll keep claiming that there is as long as you can't present a psychic techpriest.Clearly becoming a machine comes with losing what makes you human, including the kind of spark and passion necessary for psychic will. You can't will a fireball with cold facts and logic.
>>98470045>angels look monsterous and they themselves look like based gigachads free of corruption.trvke alert
>>98470167They were constantly angering the deity of said bible and killed said deity's son...so don't seem like the good guys to me..
>>98470095>the emperor is deeply flawed>how come?>he told me to stop murdering and torture entire planets>oh um okay
>>98470183>>he told me to stop murdering and torture entire planetslmao
If your military has rape dungeons it probably has more in common with chaos marines than it does loyalist space marines.
>>98470183>he created us specifically to torture and murder entire planets only to then separate his reputation from ours and discard us like garbage after the dirty work was done
>>98470193Rape dungeons, sure. But poop dungeons?
>>98470198the imperial fists are German, after all
>>98470193it's not a rape dungeon, the rape happens before the dungeon begins, the lower levels are a fungeon for the whole family
>>98470198what about poopie rapie dungeons?
>>98470193Chaos Marines are always welcome in Commoragh. Just don't expect to leave.
>Alpha Legion>Everyone looks the exact same without their helmets on>Mike Brooks makes two books where the MC is a black man with long dreadsTell me, is there LGBT crap in the book too? And did Black Library create their new minis for this year to celebrate BL? Because there was rumors it would have been this guy.
Will the refreshed grey knights look more or less retarded than the current ones (baby carrier included)?
>>98470037>opposing angelic beingsC'tan are the only good guys in the setting.
>>98470215it ain't called white library dumbass cracka
>>98470086>>98470090depending on what you consider canon, satan and his minions are fallen angels, so them having angelic wings means nothing.
>>98470218The baby carrier will probably be the only thing not to get refreshed. That way they only need to make like 4 infantry kits and not invalidate their new upgrade sprue they just started selling.
>>98470215>rumorsit's basically confirmed, it's only a matter of when
>>98470229So on a scale from 1 to 10, what are the odds no one buys it? If it's free, what are the odds most people trash it?
>>98470224more like gaytan lmao
>>98470183>he told me to stop murdering and torture entire planetsNL never did that. The honorable and good ones were the ones killing people by the millions
>>98470220>C'tan>good
>>98470232it depends on whether it's got a helmet option, but it probably won't and the dreadlocks will likely be sculpted onto the armour so headswaps will be uncomfortable.
>>98470218Baby carrier is too much of a standing joke to ever get changed, he'll just be bigger.
>>98470107No, all psykers have to be collected and trained by the Adeptus Astra Telepathica. After that, there would be no real will to give any back to Mars just to make a magi-tech sorcerer. Plus, the Mechanicus isn't so hot on psykers anyway.
>>98470218I fully believe the dreadknight will be replaced, but the replacement will still have some of the same fuckups
>>98470229>this pic is over 2 years old>still no alpha legion stuff kill gw
>>98470161>>98470172There might not be a GW store, but there are certainly hobby stores that carry GW products, or equivalents/similar things that require the same tools and materials. "Polystyrene plastic model kits" are not a new thing, I promise there is SOME store that has the "correct" stuff somewhere near you that you can take a day trip on a weekend to go shopping at.>push fit the minisIt'll work for a bit, but if they jostle around/get dropped or you take them apart a few times it won't work anymore. The point of the push-fit models is to make it easier to assemble where parts can only go one way and you CAN play with them before glue/cement come into the picture for impatient newfriends. Same reason why some have red/blue plastic instead of gray.
Do we have any kill team rumors? I thought the alpha legion thing was supposed to be a kill yeam
>>98469807>how belgianbit off topic but iirc that's just for the american version (m249) of the minimi.I love this kind of shit and it's perfect for games & settings like 40k, I wish we had that level of autism for 40k weapons that the guns had features designes for edgecases and what not. I'm sure there's at least 1 gun in 40k that does, surely.
>>98470218They shouldn't because he has "TITAN" on his crotch.
>>98470304I hoped so too, but GW moved away from making kill teams that are upgrade sprues for existing kits.in the current kill team rumors there's the legion of the damned
>>98470304I just want my seers' council of techpriests. More chaos marines would also be great.
>>98469572I found a nice ASMR series about the Fem Primarchs then I was deeply disgusted to find out the VA was a tranny
>>98470229Did somebody say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker??>>98468745I already did all of 2019 up through wrath as a warrior. I went rogue in anni but didn't play much. I think I will go Ret Paladin, maybe Rogue as an alt. I'm hoping they pretty much just port over TBC ret.
>>98470323Lmao you are a faggot who got off to a man's voice. The most disgusting thing in this story is you, man lover.
>>98470323>I found a nice ASMR series about the Transgender Primarchs then I was deeply disgusted to find out the VA was transgender
>>98470332this nigga accidentally admitted be gets off to asmrmost people just listen to it and relax my dude
>>98470335>election tourists think r63 is trannyshitself-report
>>98470037Some people are retarded. I've seen religious people who look at "non-believers" being happier than them and just think>damn, why god a bitch?Rather than look inwards and entertain the possibility that they've been played like a fiddle since day 1. So psychotic gene-enhanced murderwhores at it for millenia? Yeah they're beyond saving.
>>98470232If it has a helmeted head option or can easily be swapped, he might be.
>>98470348Is that what the man who says he turned into a woman who's role-playing as a man who you say turned into a woman told you in the asmr?
>>98470311Ok, he's a Minimi (as written on the receiver) with both belt and magazine feeds.
>>98470354lost niggas be like
>>98470360>election tourist is a schizo toosad!
Have they made a version of the Invictor mech with anti armor options yet?
>>98470371man this thing looks so retarded
>>98470367You're the one using tourist terminology, but go on, keep on trying to defend the idea that masturbating to a tranny voicer of a primarch is totally hetero.
>>98470377mb i was looking in the mirror
>>98470381>election tourist throwing fit>cries no uLMAO
there is nothing wrong with being trans
>>98470361Fuck did I hallucinate it? I guess I conflated it with the 7.62 version not having it.It seems I, in fact, did not "remember it correctly".So indeed, disregard the achktually and send thy boot directly into my sack of nuts.
>>98470340Listening to ASMR to "relax" has to be one of the most pathetic things I've ever heard. Beyond touch starved.
>>98470371I am once again asking for someone to post a conversion of this with a redemptor dreadnough sarcophagus instead of stephanus hawkinus>>98470385I thought the whole point of being trans is that you are in the >wrongbody? That'd be one.
>>98469778Someone hand dat git his breathin' squig
>>98470391It's ok, you're among equally retarded people.
>>98470396You will live to see man-made miseries beyond your comprehension.
>>98470404Based
>>98470396its just relaxing noises like white noiseadmitting you think asmr is just bimbos licking ears and moaning joi is a funny self report though
>shooty wraithknight jumps to 405pts with twin wraith cannons (10pts per)>imperial knight wargear is all freewhy
>>98470431Uhm excuse me sweaty but these wargear costs are for BALANCE REASONS. Clearly twin wraith cannons are overtuned for their cost and they've been struck by the hammer of BALANCE.
>>98470431Wraithknight is still on probation with the rest of Aledawi
>>98470323>This is what the primarchfag masturbates to while telling you he's not gay>fem!
I making a promise here and now that I will finally finish painting my army before the end of this year.
>>98470453>leman russ has the most viewsshocking
>>98470457What army and how much do you need to paint?
>>98470457All you're doing is pressuring yourself. You will gain nothing from doing this, but will lose sanity if you don't reach your self-imposed deadline.Relax, take a break, let it be and let it go. It will still be there when you return to it, freshened & willing.Faggot.
Can marines experience prostate orgasms?
>>98470215That guy made a supposedly Ork-focused book and 2/3rds of it was about some Admech bullshit. Complete with they/them Skitarii, which gets really fucking confusing when you're trying to read a scene about that individual leading a squad into combat and having to figure out whether the "they" he's referring to is the individual or the squad.
>>98470468it's the only one they experience, but only before they become marines, all aspirants get raped while pubescent boys
>>98470469Apparently it was ad mech politics which can be fun in its own book but it sucks they stole the thunder from the orks in that way, it'd be like Dominion Genesis having a bunch of tyranid business.
>>98470462are thirty four thousand of those views are from the mutie, so it isn’t all too impressive.
>>98470468they probably remove their prostates for more aerodynamic shits or something
>>98470475>they are my space marines and they shall know no rear
>>98470058They gotta be showing the Orks in the next week or so, right? What else is left from that last preview that doesn't have a release date on it yet?
>>98470463Necropolis Hawks, and just a few more guys, plus a turret and a hover rhino.>>98470466>Relax, take a break, let it be and let it go. It will still be there when you return to it, freshened & willingI'm returning to it now after a year.
>>98470489>it's been a yearTime means nothing. You are relaxed or you aren't. You feel pressured or you don't. Time itself does not make us rested.
>>98470475Who does the raping?
>>98470497Failed aspirants and other serfs.
>>98468983Aiming the fan out an open window should have the same effect, yes? But I do have AC. Not sure if the room I was planning to use is big enough, it looks barely 8'x8' at a glance. Should I be priming indoors if I live in a humid climate?
>>98470496I want to do it now because I'm excited for DOW and I'm worried my paints will dry
>>98470453>>fem!LMAO
>>98470509>excited for DoWAs a tester, don't be too muchI believe in you
Can you buy stratagem cards? I want to progress past unga kill all units to win with my friend and I was going to print the combat patrol rules so we could start going for vp but it doesn't tell you what stratagems are
>>98470090They can already stave off demons (palestinians) so they just need the wings now.
>>98470332>who got off to a man's voiceI don't jerk off to them I sleep to them.>>98470335No it's an AU where the primarchs were female, meaning that the Emperor listened to Malcador about making them female
When is the next online preview
>>98470519Why not whats wrong with it?
>>98470545>he sleeps with a man voice whispering in his ear about a male superhuman who totally happens to be female here, trust!
>>98470549You'll find out in a few months
>98470551Are you an eGimp?
>>98470552vagueposting makes your tester story seem fabricatedyou genuinely have nothing to report but also its bad? Lol
>>98470558meant for >>98470545
>>98470559If I get specific they can narrow me down
>>98470575they probably have hundreds or thousands of testers and saying something like “oh its hard to see units because the colors or really similar” or “it plays really slowly and doesnt have alot of micro kind of like halo wars” wouldnt narrow you down at allno worries tho man steam has a very generous refund policy so its all good
How are Eldar fags taking the news that the mythical fifth Cronesword, the last artifact they need to defeat Slaanesh and that they gave up in trying to recover because it was too hard for them was stolen by a Necron?
I have multiple kits, but I've only built a single skitarius alpha and he isn't painted. I've always assumed this means I'm still a secondary.
>>98470587If you have to talk spoilers at least post a link to pirate the book
>>98470371That's what the S14 fist is for.
Sisters, I'm starting to think that 11th is really bad.....
>>98470615Have you played any other edition?
>>98470594The guy that posted it in the last thread has the physical one, which is hard to pirate.
>>98470587I don't think Eldarfags even know Trazyn has the last cronesword considering most of them don't read Necron books. This plot point isn't going to amount to anything anyways since Chaos is more important then Eldar so Slaanesh is never gonna die.
>>9847063360 photos posted a day is a complete storytime of the book in one weekanon just isn't committed to discuss the book
Do you guys think the Wicked and the Warped will be any good?
>>98470651Guy that has the book here, I see no reason to do that because the ebook is going to be pirated in a week. >>98470658I liked it a lot.
>>98470665Wait is it already out? I thought it was going to be the end of this month.
>>98470587Eh? I thought slaanesh had it
>>98470615I like it even though I've lost 3x in a row now.
>>98470669>I thought it was going to be the end of this month.It comes out in a week. >>98470672Nope. Trazyn has it.
>>98470672Demons lie.
>>98470587Who cares the ynnari plotline is over
>>98470582>they probably have hundreds or thousands of testersThey don't
>>98470587We don't give a shit about nu-lore, we just don't want them touching the old e.g. wraithbone.Eldar exist to get stomped on for eternity because the anti-eldar nigger in this thread apparently is the only person consulted when anything new is written. We'll just blow you off the table and leave you to blubbering about how "it wouldn't have happened if I'd have brought Glub Shittius!"
>>98470645Slaanesh got cucked in fantasy doe
>>98470693>because the anti-eldar nigger in this thread apparently is the only person consulted when anything new is writtenThere are more than one of us
for some reason my kasrkin's arms weren't attaching with plastic cement. i thought they were flush and sanded them a bit but maybe they were still oddly curved slightly. so i just used gorilla glue which stuck them together and filled the gap. i'm a genius
>>98470695Fantasy elves are just superior to Eldar in every way. Even their evil elves are better then Deldar.
Anyone here play kill team? Are there any teams that are terribly unfun to play against? or it all just depends?
>>98470703To be fair it's completely impossible to surpass Morathi
>>98470696Enjoy hosting that Craftworld in your head rent-free.
>>98470714>>98470703Really 40k just needs a Morathi equivalent. AoS and TOW have not been particularly kind to Dark Elves of any flavor though
>>98470714>sexo milf with the best design>evil just because it'd be mad funny Eldar and Deldar could never.
>>98470506good lord know. might as well just huff that can of paint
>>98470658It's a BL book and not the good kind, so no.
>>98470545thats the gayest thing ive read all day
>>98470730I always thought Malys was supposed to be that but she's really mediocre compared to Morathi.
Is there only so much Imperium wank because most players play Imperium? Or is there only so much Imperium wank because that is what GW invests a lot of time into developing? Like could you imagine a world where EACH xeno faction had as much variation as Space Marines? Could that ever happen?
>>98470778>Could that ever happen?no, the vicious cycle is already ongoing and can't be reset
>>98469371Is picrel some esoteric GuP meme?
>>98470690How many you think then? Like 10? Lmao
>>98470778Chicken and egg type shit
>>98470506Yes a window would also work (and be better), I just said out the door because I know some places have really bad hot air during the day with little wind so they keep windows closed. to retain some of the coolness from the night.>if I live in a humid climateIf it's in a can like spraypaint, do it outside in EVERY single case, you don't want to inhale the contents of a spray can (unless you want to; it's your brain cells you'd be burning out huffing it though). If it's actively very humid outside, be a bit thin with your coverage and see how it turns out on one model before full-sending on the whole lot.Those paint/prime suggestions are for airbrushing or brush-on paint/primer.8'x8' isn't a hard requirement for a room either, it's just a common "house bedroom" size in a lot of old-build (pre-1950) houses in the US so I mentioned it. Priming/painting/gluing/cementing in a full room like that is fine, doing it in a 3'x3' closet is not; it's down to the amount of air in the room, not the specific dimensions. If your room is a bit smaller (6'x8' for example), that'd also be fine, just be mindful that the smaller you go the more air movement you need and vice versa.
My regular opponent is bringing a keeper of secrets to our next game. What do I, a humble space marines player, do against it? Only T10 but 18 wounds, 4+ Inv. and -1 to hit. 10 attacks in melee all doing 3 damage, so can't bog it down with bodies easily. My repex costs more but seems way easier to put down without the inv save and a swingier main laser attack
I finished my intercessors :D
>>98470693I kinda hope that the Eldar would get a 'win' of some sort besides the vague promises of an unborn god
>>98470778Obligatory
>>98470811Nice
>>98469596>"/40kg/ is homophobic">said anon, as he posted a .gif of a shirtless dude
>>98470714I want to read Morathi's 36 Sermons
>>98470502>the point of this challenge is..... don't trust us or we'll kill you... no wait... don't ever relax or we, I mean the enemy, will kill you... uhh.... if you fail, we'll kill you, just like how these people that failed are now killing you even though you haven't failed... er...no wonder so many marines end up joining chaos
>>98470778The Imperium is the most popular because the marine design is iconic, guard captured the once-significant boomer historical wargamer demographic, and most people tend towards playing the self-nsert human good guys factions. Trying to swim against the tide and make as many models for niche factions would be throwing money away. Could they do better, yes, but really all they need to do is keep the ecosystem alive for imperium customers.
>>98470778In the 90s when every faction was getting support equivalent to space marines marines still outsold the rest by a country mile
>>98470587>How are Eldar fags taking the news that the mythical fifth Cronesword, the last artifact they need to defeat Slaanesh and that they gave up in trying to recover because it was too hard for them was stolen by a Necron?Looks like that faggot deserved to be here
>>98470811May need to thin them paints slightly further in the future homie
>>98470814Some of these psycho marine players what codexes for even lesser known space marine chapters? How can anyone with a straight face ever say "yeah, I want a codex for the Red Dog Fuckers Chapter" ?
A major reason Marines sold was just like Chaos Warriors. Big armor people are great for newcomers. Less minis but bigger and less demanding for small specific details when painting. This is why AoS tried sigmarines.
>>98470825They definitely need players for the other factions tooBecause otherwise imperium players will get boredBut you are essentially correct, yeah
>>98470778probably that’s just cause that’s what the writers know. even with all the space marines pushed in every release and box set they’re still only ~30% of the playerbase, and then whenever a xenos faction gets a crumb of attention like the necrons, tyranids, and orks have gotten during every edition releases their playerbases immediately jumped up which shows xenos releases and writing DOES do something for sales. as for if it’ll happen, its pretty unlikely because GW has trouble writing anything new for the imperium let alone xenos, but back in warhammer’s heyday, the orks got a bunch of high effort writings, units, and even a standalone game dedicated to them which were all pretty popular, so it can happen if they get a couple xenos autists on their writing and modeling team.
>>98470809Either spam torrent attacks (Infernus Marines, etc) and win by sheer amount of attack dice chipping away at it or out-number his checks at long range.The Gladiator Lancer main gun is S14 at 72" of range with Heavy (which nullifies the -1 to hit if you don't move) and 2 attacks that do D6+3 damage each (and you can reroll one each of hit, wound and damage dice), sit it on a long sightline and just shoot the keeper until it dies.This vehicle in particular is "what if we just gave everything to one vehicle," its ONLY downside is having T10.
>>98470834They look good aside from the pauldrons, which IMO are secretly really hard to do well despite how simple they seem. The beige did need to be a bit thinner though, or maybe used a different dilution medium because it looks kind of chunky in some spots.
>>98470840I think a big issue to is that can't imperium players basically bring units from different factions with them to a certain extent on the game board? Like Space Marines can bring Admech right? I don't think any Xenos could ever do that. Like the Necrons aren't going to bring a detachment of Orkz with them. So with Imperium, buying a bunch of different armies isn't a total waste I imagine.
>destinyfags aren't satisfied with votrans and now want more xenosfuck off destinyfag
>>98470852>Like Space Marines can bring Admech right?No. They can include knights and a few Agents units, a basic sisters squad, grey knight terminators etc.
>>98470862What's wrong with more xenos armies?
>>98470870It's just a shitposter trying to foster/feed more arguments
>>98470862no one cares about your autistic hyperfixation
People say the biggest issue for GW is that the Xenos factions all have limited personality besides a few. With Necrons, like 99 percent of them can't speak or have emotions or ambitions. With Tyranids, NONE of them can speak I believe and don't have varied emotion or ambitions. Drukhari could probably have good writing, regular Eldar could have good writing, Tau could have good writing. Orkz would have fun writing but I don't know if necessarily good. So the writers definitely have an uphill battle. Any writing involving Chaos Space Marines I just consider to be more Imperium wank anyway.
>>98470850>sit it on a long sightline and just shoot the keeper until it dies.Two shots a turn against a unit that can move 14" basic and has a 50:50 invuln sounds like a gamble even if when the rerolls help a lot. Also I've just noticed the Keeper has deep strike as well.
>>98470852I mean Eldar and Tyranids each have two Codexes that share units between each other.
>>98470587Oh good, it's now possible to obtain.
>>98470889You kind of undercut your own argument there bud.
>>98470899What will they have to trade Trazyn, their ancient racial nemesis, for it?
>>98470770She's more of a Malus Darkblade character.
>>98470903Cegorach probably has something
>>98468515that is exactly correct. yes.
>>98470903a preserved necrontyr bodythey probably have one or two of those lying around in the black library, right?
>>98470909What if I play tabletop but I buy prepainted because painting is fucking boring and gay paint by numbers level autistic babyshit?
>>98470891That's why you put meatshields between your big gun and their big enemy, hopefully meatshields that also do some chip damage to help take it down.Terminators, Infernus Marines like I mentioned earlier, other tanks, a fucking dreadnought, it's not your tank vs. the Keeper in a vacuum. The game is designed to be a trade of resources, you will lose SOME units fighting it, but unless you're at a 500 point cap you SHOULD have enough chaff to be fine, marine units are all a bit undercosted so you have a lot more leeway than you honestly should.A regular-ass Land Raider has 2 48" range S12 AP-3 lascannons that EACH have 2 attacks that each do D6+1 damage. Use one to drive up a 10-man squad of Infernus Marines like I suggested earlier (attached Ancient with Immolator preferably) and dump everything you have at it ASAP; it should die, or at the very least be close to death.You have options.>50:50 invulnIt can't roll that 50:50 every time, which is why I suggested spamming attacks. The sheer attrition of dice spam will work its way through all the bullshit "I don't die" gimmicks.>deepstrikeIt can't deepstrike you if you screen properly.
>>98470943that would make you a larping secondary
>>98470943(you)
>>98470957But I play the game I just dont do arts and crafts macaroni and glue level babyshit
>>98470943I would still call you a primary because the tabletop game is the PRIMARY hobby.games, books, animations etc. all that is SECONDARY by definition because it is derived from it. Like a son is secondary to a father. It is quite literally descended from the original codexes and game manual lore. Its not really a statement of superiority in that case, but here it is an insult because why would you come to the traditional games board to talk about books and video games. This is the board for board games and rpgs and such. If you own no models/dont play the game you can go to shit like /v/ or something.A tertiary is consuming content that is derived from a derivation. Instead of reading a book, they just read a wiki summary and memorize it. Truly the most pathetic form of existence, their brains are so small they cant even directly engage with media at all. Being a tertiary is an insult because what the fuck is wrong with these people.
Is it true that Emperors Children can't take a chaos chosen? why is that?
>>98470985they have their own chosen
>>98470849>and even a standalone game dedicated to them which were all pretty popular,Didn't Gorkamorka almost kill GW
>>98470908In the book Trazyn causes a Demon incursion in the middle of the Black Library, so I doubt Cegorah would be willing to cooperate.
>>98470829>when every faction was getting support equivalent to space marinesThis never happened.
>>98470870>>98470887>destinyfags trying to justify more destinyshit
>>98471016>shitting on ynnari and their main plot>shitting on clowns just for lulzEldar models selled that well that GW wnated to balance it via total eldar humiliation like in voidscarred or maelstorm? That >>98470833 picture fit it even more and more
>>98471029Are you referencing destiny like the video game?Bro this is the traditional game board and we’re talking about 40k stupid ass
>>98471034>selled
Are heldrakes any good this edition?
>>98471038stop replying to him, he's been trying to force this meme for 4 years
>>98471001Yeah, I just looked it up and the most generous estimates are that it DID sell it just wasn’t enough during a time where games workshop was stretching itself nearing its limit, and the worst is like you said where they were on the brink of bankruptcy in part because they invested so much into something like gorkamorka. so don’t listen to me I guess lol. at least ork likers had a good time :D
you don't hate primarchtrannies enough
>>98471064Interesting attempt Mr. lowercase. You pretend to be someone else in your false flag. I will (You) your efforts.
>>98471067I bet a large chunk of them would be abusive or neglectful parents
>>98471067primarchs are based in their ability to make autists seethe purely by existing
>>98471074I don't think you understand the matter at hand: genestealer hybrids are NOT humans with nid dna, they are nids with human dna.
Which do you prefer?
Rate my 2000 point listChaos - Death Guard - DeathLord'sChosen, ParagonsofPutrescenceTyphus (100pts): WarlordBiologus Putrifier (60pts)Biologus Putrifier (60pts)Biologus Putrifier (60pts)Foul Blightspawn (65pts)Foul Blightspawn (65pts)Foul Blightspawn (65pts)Lord of Contagion (150pts)Lord of Contagion (130pts)Lord of Contagion (120pts)Lord of Poxes (65pts)Lord of Poxes (65pts)Lord of Poxes (65pts)Lord of Virulence (100pts)Lord of Virulence (100pts)Lord of Virulence (100pts)Malignant Plaguecaster (60pts)Malignant Plaguecaster (60pts)Malignant Plaguecaster (60pts)Noxious Blightbringer (60pts)Noxious Blightbringer (60pts)Noxious Blightbringer (60pts)Plague Surgeon (50pts)Plague Surgeon (50pts)Plague Surgeon (50pts)Tallyman (60pts)Tallyman (60pts)
>>98471074This >>98471082They are fundamentally not humans, they are alien shapeshifters that use human DNA to pretend to be humans. It's the reason for why forth generation hybrids, which are the most similar to humans, still give birth to purestrain Genestealers. The Tyranid DNA never weakened.
>>98471101It always struck me as odd that DG notch their boots to look like cloven hooves when as far as I'm aware none of nurgles spawn even have hooves as far as I know
There's that small period before a Nurgle guy's guts spill out and they're highly fashionable rotted armor designs.
>>98471067What if you were a cute dad instead of a male failure?
>>98471100>Which do you prefer?The one where the robot keeps going like a zombie regardless of the amount of damage it receives.
>>98471100depends on the faction>freezes like a statue with their last posevotann ironkin>falls like a pile of junknecrons>explodes for some reasontin boyz
>>98471080>wow this is cringe, these characters attract really annoying and tasteless people>HAHAHA YOUR AUTISTIC AND SEETHING BASED PURELY ON THE EXISTENCE OF A CHARACTER AND THIS IS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RETARDS BEING RETARDED
>>98471170You getting this mad shows he got under your skin. Meaning he is ultimately right.
>>98471195nta but getting mad at a retard making a retarded observation isn’t the same thing as getting mad at the retarded thing the retard is making an observation about.
>>98471142I imagine some Necron deaths, reanimation protocols or teleport for repairs looking alike some DS2 or KH death animations with lights shining from them.
>>98469381Huge pop!
>>98471101Almost has as many models as the last Custodes army I fought.
>>98471170Look how pissed you are lmao
>>98470862Did someone say time travelling oldcrons?
>>98471222youre definitely the same anon LOL
>>98471288fuck ON destinyfag
>>98470862The environments in Destiny are amazing, genuine 11/10, but holy shit is the actual "game" the most soulless, corporate piece of shit I've ever played. There's zero fun, charm or soul to anything, hell the things you do are literally called "activities" in game, I mean come on. There were multiple corporate talks about the expansions, the character designs are typical California shit, the typeface is soulless which always indicates a shit game with no passion, the enemy designs are boring and samey, it's such a piece of shit
>>98471195>>98471286>YOUREMADYOUREMADYOUREMADYOUREMADYOUREMADYOUREMADI'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say you're the mad one broI'd also bet you're willing to keep this charade going for 50 posts rather than admit primarch fags are a tad bit cringe
>>98471296sometimes you people make me giggle
>>98471029see >>98470887
>>98471312Uh oh, meltie
>>98471312hes getting even more pissed lol
>>98471332Thanks for proving me right
>>98471330>>98471332let's see your models
>>98471341ntab you know the rules, gotta post yours first if you're gonna ask for models during an argumennt
>>98471341You know the rule anon
>>98471101Could something like this even perform well?
>>98471341>>98471334take a walk lil bro lol you’re embarrassing yourself
>>98471348And so do I
>>98471349idk, but itd be funny as hell
>>98471346>>98471348>>98471354Now yoursYou won't, pussy
>>98471366Nice
>>98471366>firstborn>stormtalonAbsolutely based
I still don't know what the firstborn or primarchs are
>>98471374I envy you newfren
>>98471374Google is your friend newfag
>>98471379The lore I invent for /myguys/ is guaranteed better than whatever the corporation tells me is "canon"
Why do marines pilot vehicles that seems like a waste of power armour, also that ripley dreadnought is silly you're totally unprotected
>>98471366BASEDASED
>>98471366wtf I love this cringe lord now!
>>98471366don't quote me, I'm not part of your shitflinging, just reminding you of the rules here
>>98470862You make a very good point. I suggest 40k receive a new army consisting of clones made from splicing preexisting DNA sequences who ride giant machines that eat planets.
>be Firstborn>not be actual first born
Which Imperium army works best with Officio Assassinorum characters?
>>98471416Only if they have to fight with a race of insectoid bugmen whose civilization began its decline long ago and are reduced to a small selection of warring clans who have positioned themselves as little more than roving pirate bands, but are nevertheless each dead-set on recovering what remains of their past glories
>>98471424There's only one true firstborn faction
I hate orks :(( le D: D:
>>98471435>insectoid bugmenMy penis is interested.
>>98471428The Inquisition
>>98471294because the original anon posted models >>98471366 (absolutely based models btw) I can now clearly state with evidence that I am NOT him.
Reminder that Chaos is another flavor of Imperium. Daemons will be so squatted that nothing of Chaos will exist except Imperium.
>>98471451Fucking nice
>>98471453The dark side of humanity's soul. There is no light without dark.
>>98471435Ah, but are they psionic bugmen?
>>98471450No, but like, actual army.
>>98471462No, they do tech magic stuff instead and subsist exclusively on a gaseous substance synthesized by machines they styled after their previous God (that has since abandoned them and that abandonment is what caused the collapse of their civilization)You got the 4 arms part right at least
>thinking of Chaos Androids>suddenly I realize that Destiny has themWTF
>no models from the pimarchtroons
>>98471462
>>98471474Destiny is a cool setting utterly squandered by bad games and bad writing
Box will be released tomorrowLGS realized they made a mistake, gave me 32 bucks back because it was a 20% off deal.
>>98471453>be Orks>outnumber Imperium>possibly exist outside galaxy>all psykers>humanity still has more influence than you even to Khorne who's all about warGork and Mork stronk for sucking up all the Ork influence that could've gone to Khorne.
>>98471493>>all psykerscute lorewhere'd you get it, youtube?
>>98471451LE ECKS DEE XDXD
I want weapons like this
>>98471493>all psykersCute and true lore.
>>98471484TrueEvery one of the "old" ideas of Destiny is phenomenal, but the game writing and the in-between writing (beetween creation and inclusion in the game) is all a huge downgrade.The Cabal especially are genuinely a good sci-fi alien faction for "up-and-coming empire" because they genuinely form a threat to the city of unkillable god-slayers by sheer dedication, industrial might and bravado on a scale that makes me want to love them.If the Tau were more like the Cabal in their ethos and structure, I think people wouldn't hate them nearly as much (especially with "defectors" being those who they consider worthy adversaries), but that's also my opinion so you can disagree with me too.
>>98471474>Pariahs are there tooWHY?
>>98471510But Cabal aren't up and coming. They're active before humanity. Even their hijacking into warmongering failed conquerors happened centuries before the present game.
>destinyfags invading 40k through votann
I wish Votann were more Destiny. They need giant AI overlords from Mars.
>>98471527 see >>98470887
Mars Tau
>>98471524Their incursion into Sol is "up and coming" though, and that's what I meantThe Cabal are the last to arrive in the Solar system in terms of the "original" Destiny factions (not including the Taken, who are just enemies+ at the end of the day and shouldn't really be talked about the same as the others). The Vex were always there, humans are native to there, the Fallen came after the Traveler millennia ago, the Hive showed up centuries ago from the "current day" the games show. The Cabal are the latest entry.But this is the 40k thread, so I'll stop here.
>tfw you thought the destiny eldar were fallen because they're an ancient dying race >now you realize the red legion's neverending series of self destructive completely avoidable fuckups make them the eldar instead
>>98470703>be WHFB Elves>have major roles saving the world constantly>survivors managed to capture Slaanesh, who's explicitly said to become the strongest Chaos God due to tasty Elf god souls, as BACKSTORY for AoS>Eldar>reason why Slaanesh happened>Ynnari failed and any chance of getting better highly unlikelyIt's amazing the contrast.
>>98471476even in victory hes still pissed LOL
>>98471573Wow that sounds awesome, I sure hope the models reflect the ideology of this chaos god
>>98471575not even him btw
>>98471588same
Votann has arrived.
>>98471575models
My painting is so flat, everything is the same brightness and nothing stands outHow fix?
>>98471608increase contrast, deepen the shadows and brighten the highlights
>>98471611But HOW?
>>98471604BP reading
>>98471527Astronauts?
>>98471621I accept your concession
Astronauts
>>98468948you say that till you forget that you left an important character /with squad on objective and they somehow roll enough 6s to precision the guy out. They're an overwatch scarecrow and can swamp it in melee if needs be even if they don't like it
Is it me or are most painting jobs actually shit? It never looks right, they look too strange
>>98471643This begs the question of what an IRL Janissary inspired Astartes homeworld would be like>group of people specifically poached or bred to be Space Marine candidates >normally they're part of a faction the local planet government fights or otherwise not the mainstream that they conquered and levy from>converted to Emprah worship after levy and augmented
>>98471620damn, looking at this image just made me realize the chainswords marines, guard, and even orks have don’t use pullcords. kind of sad my imagining that cool duels between an ork boy and an overactive commissar doesn’t start with them manually pulling on their chainswords before charging at each other.
Someone make a new thread. I would but I'm phone posting while drinking.
>>98471643the way the kriegsmarine’s feet are pointed inward makes me think he’s trying to be a cutesy anime girl.
>>98471695gimmie a TQ
>>98471698>kriegsmarine'sNone of those men are German naval officers?
my necron host arrives tomorrowive only painted 3 orks and i haven't even figured out how im going to do my blue glow
>>98471661>john madden john madden john madden john madden>aeiou
>>98471679Leave this one to me.
A jannyssary?
>>98471643That pic makes me realize that Custodes weapons really don't have the butt end be a spike or blade much like many IRL spears and polearms.
Got my stabbing CSM raptor and my stabbed SM scout all built up. Time to procrastinate on glueing them to the base, wish me luck.
>>98471652aka high
>>98471769I accept your concession
>faggots are stuck in a loopsomeone get the tech priest and reboot these servitors
>>98471703What would be your dream /yourdude/ rules?
NYOOOO MY FAVOURITE BRUSH DIED
>>98471788getting the last word is usually what people do when they lose the argument
>>98471834not necessarily, even the other dude admitted he “won” but even then the winner still keeps going. its purely ego overdriving any rational thought and ability to say to themselves “lol, what a fag” and move on.
>>98471843its at least 2 or 3 people keeping him goingfirst it was some other guy then I took over, then I left and its still going lol
>>98471078But who exactly?I can see pert just ignoring his kids, and mortation being just awful.
>>98471643>le shovel memeI want these people to suffer
threads have been a lot nicer for the last few daysI wonder why
>>98471875>it’s at least 2 or 3 people and none of them have posted models.grim.
>let shovel memeI want this person.
hes still going lmao
>>98471890AND NEITHER HAVE YOU
Will the next thread be ratfag-free?
>>98471912No
>>98471898models?
>>98471898if you’re talking about >>98471890 I’m not the firstborn guy, retard. and if you’re >>98471875 and acknowledged that multiple people can contribute replies to one person, and then assume only the firstborn guy can be talking to you, then seriously kill yourself.
LE ECKS DEE POST MODELS XDXD :DD LE ECKS DEE!
Getting dreadnought legs to settle in place while the cement dries is such a pain in the ass
>>98468515>Quarternary: interacts with tabletop game solely through Twitter, Facebook and Reddit
If I want primaris scaled scouts is the kill team my only option?
Primarchs are kinda cool honestly
>>98468515Wouldn't it just be primaries and fags? No need to make a tier list like this when everyone who isn't a primary is just a fag
lil bro seriously wrote a whole paragraph about which guy he is lmao
I say we start calling primaries primarchies
>>98471952this nigga thinks >>98471926 is a paragrapha dark glimpse into the mind of a nomodels
RED TERROR RELEASE WHEN?
>>98471912I'll try and post some games.
This reminds me of the two spics in /gg/ who'd spend entire threads calling each other poor in a retarded game of verbal pickleball.
>>98471945yeah, its the new scout squad. you get 10 and all the kill team toys. I built 2 boxes of them recently, the mold lines are bad. better to get the KT box now and get 10 scouts that wait for the rotation and get a box of 5 for the same price.
>>98471961Reopening the schools wasn't enough apparently.
>>98471972>/gg/ gamergate general?
>>98471974I bought scouts recently for the collage and the mold lines are fucking odd. Compared to other recent stuff I've bought they're really bad. You'd think they came out last decade.
>>98471978No, the guitar general on /mu/. It's so retarded that I won't touch it anymore, and that's a tough bar to clear.
>>98471984i eventually gave up on a lot of them by guy number 15
>>98471986yeah that place sucks dickI asked for recs for a headless guitar one time because I wanted something light for long practice sessions and some boomer started lecturing me about his workout routine and how he used to be in the military lmao
>>98471996>some boomer started lecturing me about his workout routine and how he used to be in the military lmaobased. I wish we got some regulars like that.
>>98472011we’ve got plenty of blowhard schizos already I think
>>98472011I think the only confirmed veteran reg we've had in years was O&Tfag
>>98472019Did O&Tfag ever come back or did I imagine that?
I know its page 7 but I’m going to bed so fuck you and goodnight and sweet dreamsNew Thread>>98472034>>98472034>>98472034
>>98470323I'm not surprised at all, safe horny stuff like r63 musclewomen attracts troons like flies to shit
>>98471288rare actually good destinyfag post. sadly they arent his models. :(
>Primary: Tabletop gamer, collects, paintsOh cool I'm->playsOh...