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Fallen Edition

Previous: >>98467753

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

TQ: What shit card do you still enjoy playing even though it's shit?
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>>98471578
Ordered along with a bunch of other 1-cent commons for a low-powered Jon Irenicus unblockables pile. Got the foil by mistake, and it's from an era where foils look good so in it stays.
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>TQ
Overencumbered, I love this fucking card so much I don’t care that it’s a noob trap it’s so funny to attach one to an opponent with an artifact deck that is nothing but gas and no interaction.

https://archidekt.com/decks/24944657/me_and_my_fine_shyt

I put together an avatar deck recently, once it gets going it’s pretty nutty. Both times I’ve played it so far have been very consistent.
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>>98472060
Heh. Whenever you give Sokka a cool sword he makes babies. That's funny.
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Is Ixidron still the top dog as far as boardwipe-on-a-stick creatures in Simic are concerned? Lost a game last night and realized after the fact that a boardwipe option is missing from my creature tutor toolbox.
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even the disgusting pizza commander's plate is 30?
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>>98472135
Summon: Leviathan is pretty good and also deals with tokens unlike Ixidron.
but it costs one more mana.
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>>98472273
You want us to make popular commander cards widely available? FUCK YOU KID! You'll cough up 30 bones for the gross pizza art and you'll like it you pig!

and I better not catch any of you faggots playing with proxies! 700$ for a damaged revised Volcanic Island is a completely reasonably price for such a prestigious card!!!!
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98472135
he cute in a blink deck
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Fun fact: it is literally impossible for wotc to make a china set as their compulsion to make everything DEI will run afoul with the 万智牌 (Wànzhìpái) crowd and ofc the CCP
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>>98472314
reverend insanity UB when
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>>98472314
Suddenly not having a skeleton commander is making a lot of sense
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HUUUUU
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Um, excuse me. Don't you know who I am?
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>>98471578
>TQ
I'm always just building synergy engines so this guy has no place, but my green deck is just a pile, so he fits right in, thankfully.
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>Adding deck to archideck
>Realize two cards are missing
>Find old deck list on old phone
>Missing a Judge Foil Norn and foil shadowspear
I hate theft decks so goddamn much.
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>>98472448
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>>98472448
>foiling out your deck in the card game with the worst warping issues
deserved.
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>win on turn 4 in a bracket 3 game
>table has a melty
lol
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>>98468004
people post stiflenaught to own premodern but if it's that much of a problem can't they just ban it?
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>>98472462
>win on turn 4 more consistently than you in a bracket 3 game w/o combo turn limits
>(You) have a melty
lol
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>>98472470
They could, but they won't.
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>>98472494
uhhh why?
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>>98472297
I work for JotC and say this.
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>>98472552
The same reason the banlist started out unaligned with any real historical banlist. It's a larper format.
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>>98472584
but enough about the larper banlist sheldon and the rc made that is unaligned with any real historical banlist that people take as gospel and don't even bother to think about
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So I tried tonight's The Hobbit Pre release after my last pre release party being Return to Ravnica in 2012 and made it with 1 win and 2 losses, nonetheless when I opened the booster that was rewarded to me for winning that first match I got pic related, thoughts?
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>>98472608
part of the 99 in kuja
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>>98472615
I don't know what that means...
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>>98472607
I can understand why Sylvan Primordial is banned but I don't get why Primeval Titan is also banned
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>>98472608
Here's a better picture
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>>98472618
a spells matter /wizards matter guy from final fantasy
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>>98472633
Well this is an interesting as fuck card, a shame is Black/Red though can't put it on my Cloud, Ex Soldier deck.
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>>98472626
sheldon, like all casuals, overestimate timmy creatures
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>>98472626
>Primeval Titan
That fucking card should be banned in every format
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>>98472661
yes and rhystic should be in every single pod
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>>98472674
This art looks so bad
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>Make an "alien" type
>discard it for star trek and just give every alien a unique creature type
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>>98472607
I agree Commander's banlist is also extremely bad and makes no sense by any metric whether it's casual fun or competitive balance.
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>>98472677
>Alien type
>1 support card (from WHO, and it's shit)
>Appears only in Unfinity and UB sets
Why are you complaining?
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>>98472683
>I'm gonna defend something stupid
No.
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>>98472677
>viashino will never come back
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>>98472608
>>98472628
Wtff
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>>98472683
NTA but it makes it so every Star Trek card cannot be reprinted with new art and cucks future alien support out of a bigger card pool.

Also Marvel just introduced a bunch of new alien cards so it's not something they've given up on.
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>>98472689
yeah sleeve it. you should be able to get at least fifty bucks for it if you give a shit.
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>>98472689
Prerelease prices are always pumped. Sell it as soon as possible.
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>>98472704
What do you mean?
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>>98472685
Let's look at how many aliens were printed in EOE, a set with 6 alien factions.
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>>98472705
Sorry not selling it, just wanted to know general thoughts but is better to just hold it for now as I don't have any particular place for it on any of my decks.
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>>98472689
>pay 40$ for pre release
>get 200$ back in the same night in just one game
lol
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>>98472744
i would sell everything into the hype before the tards notice its a small set where nothing is rare
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>>98472758
Not me, my Buster Sword is at 200$ right this momment. Imagine if I listen to someone here and sold it at 50$.
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>>98472762
are you retarded? why are you comparing a big set with a small set?
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>>98472765
Lol
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>>98472765
Lmao
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>>98472765
>are you retarded?
Are you, nigga?
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>>98472767
>>98472769
>>98472773
all me btw
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>>98472628
>>98472608
is it just me or is the adventure side just kinda playable in any deck that has a wizard for a commander?
like obviously if Gandalf dies then you can get blown out. but if your deck just always has a wizard on the table most of the time it's like 1R draw two cards which seems pretty good.
idk I would play that without the body in picrel or maybe a spells matter wizard. like Kuja
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>>98472779
I wish
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>>98472783
I assume that's the goal, it somehow just works.
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>>98472677
Are you really surprised after they did the exact same shit in Edge of Eternities?
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>>98471578
that era of mtg art was something
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>>98472863
I don't recall this in EOE at all
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Any not-obvious ways to build Yshtola that won't put a target on your ass?
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>>98472677
But it's VERY VERY IMPORTANT every in-universe race with slightly bestial features be defined as whatever animal they look most like! God forbid we treat the host IP with even an iota of the respect we're affording the parasite IPs used for UBs! Tieflings MUST be Tieflings, not Demon Humans!
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>>98472888
put yshtola into the maybe board and play a different commander
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>>98472906
They didn't do this for doctor who. Generic aliens were just typed alien despite having canon race names or even having the race in the card name
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>>98472888
You make your 99 consistent enough to never have to cast her, just keep her in the command zone to taunt the table. I suggest this because just having her on the table is free value and will result in you winning via life drain no matter what.

You could also just make a mono blue blink deck around the other y’shtola but if you’re a meta slave you might not want to go for that.
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>>98472888
sorry, a target on your what? I got distracted
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>>98472888
I think I brought a few proxies from that nigga
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>>98472888
you play Kuja instead
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>>98472906
I agree. We should bring back Leonin. Magic died when they changed all Leonin to Cats just because they wanted to print cat tribal.
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>>98472989
did I miss something? when was leonin a creature type?
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>What the fuck? He pays for half of the commander tax and then has an activated ability for value?
>Ban his ass!
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>>98473021
you missed the sarcasm
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Any creature should be eligible as commander, legendary or not
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>>98473044
oh.
sorry, yes, I did.
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>>98473051
We have a Nephilim commander now. Petdeck tards can finally stop asking for non-legendary commanders.
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>>98473051
Have you heard of a thing called "Rule Zero"?
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blink decks with manifest shred through their deck too fast truth
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how do people play 3c+ I can never drop anything
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>>98473293
fetches and duals and signets broham
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Seriously considering buying the new Mikummander deck just to flip it. What are the chances it'll be worth 2-3x the price in a couple years even with it being print to demand?
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>>98473344
High because it's still only available for a day and people who miss that window will get fomo
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>>98473021
>attacking doesn't cause it to tap
fucking game breaking creature that doesn't work by the rules, hate this powercreep shit so much
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>>98473351
I mean it is actually pretty damn good in Mirrodin limited.
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>>98472888
Build two decks of her, one as theft, the other as whatever you want. When your pod gets uppity and constantly targets yshtola play the theft version that doesn't rely on her being out and be an absolute nuisance to the table. Train them to not worry about Yshtola herself, then if they're good little peasants play the alternate deck.
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After building like 4 Weird Little Dude decks in a row I think I'll allow myself to finally make an angel waifu one

Are any of these solid as commander?
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>>98473407
the only angel tribal commander is giada

sigarda could be good as a goodstuff commander I guess
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>>98473407
All of them are pretty playable except Bruna. I have a Bruna deck, it is a bunch of self-mill and then just hoping no one can/does remove her before she attacks and becomes near unkillable
Have a bunch of shit that makes her hexproof, indestructible, exiles herself and returns, unblockable, so on and so on so she can basically one-shot my opponents one at a time

But if anyone knows what I'm doing it falls apart. Grave gets exiled, she gets counterspelled- all that shit.
Would not recommend, even though it is fun when it works
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>>98473415
>the only angel tribal commander is giada
1. He asked for an angel waifu deck not an angel tribal
2. Kaalia does angels, you moron.
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>>98473424
That Kaalia draws so much hate, deservedly, but this other Kaalia is still not bad
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>2C: totally doable with basics
>3C: be willing to spend $1000 on lands if you want to play anything on curve
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>>98473407
Liesa + a ton of board wipes is pretty fun (read: infuriating)
Anon is right though, 2011 Kaalia is still the best "ram a bunch of angels into the deck" commander and Giada is also great as long as you don't mind monoW.
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>>98473442
This is why people used to play a lot more 1 and 2c commanders...
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>>98473407
New angel waifu so that you can run all the angel baddies, irregardless of color.
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>>98473449
Yeah wish him luck getting a real copy. Hope he doesn't mind proxying
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>>98473442
Lands being so expensive is genuinely the most bullshit part about MTG. You cannot even begin to play most decks in any format without spending a huge wad of cash on lands first.
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>>98473442
>>3C: be willing to spend $1000 on lands if you want to play anything on curve
You're 1 color off anon
There's enough dual lands that don't enter tapped that you can build a 3 color mana base with about 8 of each basic and then the rest in duals, command tower, and exotic orchard
You will be color-screwed sometimes, but mostly it's fine. And that won't cost any more than $10

But if you want a 4 or 5 color deck? Yeah you're just absolutely fucked.
Honestly, I bought the fucking Ashling precon and it's damn near unplayable because of the lands, even though I gutted the tapped lands. There's like 4 cards in there that only tap for color to cast creatures
WotC shouldn't even be allowed to sell 5c precons unless they're willing to drive land prices into the dirt
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>Guy across from me at prerelease gets Arkenstone as promo then pulls monored Smaug, two Gleaming Splendors and a foil Queen of Dale
>Mine and 4 peoples prerelease kits don’t have the promo packs with the foil and 4 seasonal Plains
>Similar issues apparently cropped up in the Two-Headed Giant version of the prerelease that was happening at the same time
WotC quality control has really gone down the shitter. The foil mythic monored Gandalf in my participation booster with Wizard’s Staff was nice.
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>>98473459
Some people are retarded enough to think that WotC doesn't care about the secondary market, but they absolutely do. They know that high value on the secondary makes people more likely to buy their product so they can crack that high value and either win on the slot machine and keep it or sell it on

It's why they hardly ever reprint the good dual lands and just iterate on new ways to design duals almost every set
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>>98473464
Get what you deserve UBpigger
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>>98473465
WotC pays more attention to their secondary market than any other tcg by a longshot.

But the game has soooooooo many expensive chase cards and staples at this point. They could reprint the fuck out of every good land and still have a mountain of crazy good cards left to sell reprint sets with.
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>>98473449
she looks kind of weak to me, as do a lot of the color identity rulebreakers
5 mana combat damage trigger reanimate an angel. okay, yes if you hit Avacyn it's great. and she has flying so there's not zero evasion here. but you're in mono white other than the Angels themselves, so are you reliably ramping into her AND giving her haste AND protecting her AND getting a huge angel into your yard all in monoW?? ehhhhhhh

I think they intentionally lowballed the power level on some of these commanders so as to avoid powercreep. the idea is just to check the box "5c angel commander with angel synergy" and nothing else (and I guess Morophon doesn't count)
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>>98473474
>They could reprint the fuck out of every good land and still have a mountain of crazy good cards left to sell reprint sets with.
Line must go up
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>>98473460
>You will be color-screwed sometimes, but mostly it's fine
Why is their always some wizard bootlicking faggot who swoops in to defend their shit reprint policy?
>yeah bro just run the cheaper lands. you'll lose a bunch of games but it's totally okay!!!!
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>>98472628
Where would this fit in a deck?
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>>98473479
They aren't even reprinting the good lands to drive sales to begin with! The OG duals are still in reserve list hell, fetches rarely get a reprint, and every commander precon is still filled with trash tap lands.
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>>98473481
>say something demonstraby false
>get corrected
>WTF BOOTLICKER
Angry commie faggot
It doesn't cost $100 to make a 3c land base, it just doesn't
Name the fucking cards you're playing and their prices, I'll wait
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>>98473484
Kuja
Mizzix
anyone who cares about cast from exile like
Inalla
that new Jeskai Gandalf that cares about legendary wizards
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>>98473506
Nice I like it
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>>98473497
NTA but if you're in Temur and you want to get a Scalding Tarn, a Misty Rainforest and a Wooded Foothills that's like $90 right there
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>>98473516
>Misty Rainforest and a Wooded Foothills

>if you want to light money on fire, your money will burn!!!
You dont fucking need them you fat whale
Besides, i actually misquoted when I said $100 because this actual retard said $1000
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>>98472888
>missing her tail
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>>98473526
okay that doesn't seem fair to get mad at me when you were the one who quoted it wrong, I thought you lowered the number on purpose and really meant $100
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>>98473497
>It doesn't cost $100 to make a 3c land base, it just doesn't
Just putting in a few shocks and fetches is gonna get you way past $100. Even most the other usable land cycles like pathways are gonna range around 5$. Any good 5c land not named Commander Tower can get pricey too. Don't even get me started on fucking duals which a legit damaged copy will run you several hundred for a single fucking card.
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>>98473530
I just stared deeply into her asspucker to confirm that you're correct. No tail. Image ruined.
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>>98473530
My dick is her tail
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Very telling that counterfeitfags:
A: immediately get irrationally angry and start throwing around insults the second you tell them you aren't interested taking part in their behavior, just like stoners and
B: can't fathom a scenario where one might not need or want to be a try hard sweat
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>>98473549
>stonerd
Bro do MTG players even ALLOW drugs in their space?
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Issue with land colors is that fetches, shocks, and duals are simply MILES BETTER than any other 2c option. You ideally want to max out on these before even looking at any other 2c land choices to put into your deck. If you choose to ignore these and go straight for the budget options you WILL run into color consistency problems.
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>>98473554
>Issue with land colors is that fetches, shocks, and duals are simply MILES BETTER than any other 2c option
don't forget surveils!
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>>98473549
Can't fathom a scenario where anyone cares if someone is using a proxy or not. Most people who use "counterfeits" instead of paper printed proxies are just trying to make their deck look less ugly. Nobody is trying to hide the fact that they are using proxies just because they spend a few dollars on aliexpress instead of using up all their colored ink.
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>>98473570
Surveils only see play because fetches exist and only serve the purpose of making fetches even stronger.
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>>98473550
I really want to know.
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>>98473536
>Just putting in a few shocks and fetches
Yeah so don't do that. You don't need to, you WANT to.
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>>98473572
>Look less ugly
Okay. Please get a fine tip sharpie, or even a pen, and write "this is fake" on the bottom of your gaea's cradle.
It won't impact readability of the board because the writing will be small, but it will infact let anyone who takes a closer look know you are not playing with real cards.
They won't care anyway, right?
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>>98473430
this kaalia rewards you for playing all 3 types, the other can focus on one
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>>98473424
Looks like she just does dragons to me.
Should have just made the flavor text here "BDC" and just dropped all pretense.
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>>98473625
yeah. and you can blink her or whatever to draw a ton.
still not as impactful as 4mana Kaalia I think but if you have something to do with the excess draws, like Force of Despair or Solitude, it's pretty good...
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>>98473607
>Okay. Please get a fine tip sharpie, or even a pen, and write "this is fake" on the bottom of your gaea's cradle.
Kinda defeats the purpose of using non-printer proxies to makes your deck look cleaner.
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>>98473689
>Defeats the purpose
How clean it looks wont be impacted there anon, not by any metric that will ruin the game and being able to read the game state.
The only thing that will be ruined is the illusion it's a real card.
Once again, surely no one will care that its not a real card.
And it isn't real, so what the issue with defacing it slightly?
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>>98473657
>WotC do a fantasy novel cover SLD
>it's fucking Marvel sloppa
Wasted.
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>>98473699
If proxies look so real you aren't able to tell from a glance then why aren't YOU also using them? Surely you didn't spend thousands on duel lands, right?
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I don't get all this nonsense about proxying lands. I run 25 basics in my 5 color deck and it runs just fine for casual games.
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>>98473476
>>98473407
Angels are a weak tribe in general and need better cards
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>>98473761
I use proxies, but my proxies are obvious that they are proxies. I don't cope about "looking clean" or "being able to read the board" to excuse buying counterfeits to pass off as real in the same breath as saying "no one cares about proxies."
If no one cares, then you don't need 1:1 counterfeits nor would you be too afraid to mark the counterfeits as fake cards in some small, but obvious when seen way.
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>>98473549
>>98473607
>>98473699
>>98473780
>this anon whenever a slightly pricey card hits the board and he thinks it's a proxy
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>>98473787
Concession accepted.
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>>98473777
You don't understand anon how else is someone expected to be able to cast Delighted Halfling, Lotho, and Rhystic study on curve consistently? My deck might as well be draft chaff if I can't do that!
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>>98473787
>he thinks it's a counterfeit
Ftfy.
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If my counterfeits look real then they aren't counterfeits
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>>98473810
Very weak b8 and/or cope.
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>>98473799
I guess if you really want your deck to run that smoothly you're gonna need a million dollar manabase but I'm not too proud to cast a renegade map or an arcum's astrolabe turn 1-2.
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I NEED a cedh level mana base in my modified precon.
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>>98473845
Don't see any duals or fetches on the game changer list
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>>98473787
may I unsleeve the card and check the backside with my x40 jewelers loupe?
no? okay.
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>>98473860
They honestly should be.
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>>98473881
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>>98473887
People running them in lower brackets are just being tryhards, so yes, they should be limited.
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I'm noticing an extremely lack of black representation in The Hobbit set, what does it means?
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>>98473910
idk im sure youll tell us when you think of something to get mad about
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>>98473910
Did you miss the nigger hobbits? It's also a much smaller set than LOTR and no new Aragorn cards
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>>98473896
maybe if you stopped doing the 32 deck challenge you could afford a good mana base in all of your decks including bracket 2.
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>>98473912
Who said I'm mad little freak?

>>98473917
Got any more? No I didn't miss that one, it has an armenian , a somali, and a balkian hobbit so that's cool.
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tergrid shouldn't be game changer
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>>98473929
correct.
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>>98473550
Are there even any Magic players that don't do drugs? That's what it feels like to me. Magic is literally the thing that got me into weed, pretty much every person I know that plays this game in Oregon also smokes. Other than The Professor of course, but people know he has drinking problems.
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Magic is dead. It died when UB first came out.
We are just molesting it's rotting corpse.
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>>98473967
Well I personally do weed, but never in front of the people I play with on my local gs, one time I subtly mentioned something related to it and had odd looks from the table and just brushed it off. And I have never, not even once, smell it from someone else. You know when someone is high as fuck, these guys are not. Idk could be a local thing.
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>>98473929
Nobody should give a shit what a game changer is or isn't.
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>>98473910
That is definitely a positive, though overall the set blows.

>I got all the cards I wanted from it for under $8 bucks
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>>98473967
I stopped going to my lgs, because every game at least 1 or 2 people would delay starting the game because they needed to go it to the parking lot to hit their pipes or dabs or leave mid turn rotation usually right before their turn to do it.
A single game would be drawn out an additional 30 minutes up to an entire hour and a half because they couldn't play not stoned.
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>>98473967
my drug is magic
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>>98473977
I get this post, weed breaks are annoying as are smoke breaks. Could this be the reason I feel like drugs are a no-no among my local shop goes?
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>>98473976
Yeah I get that, I wonder how will the prices of some of the cards are going to be a year from now on though, just for the novelty of being white protagonists.
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>>98473977
>>98473980
how old are the people you play with?
I play mostly with +25y olds and besides the casual beer and a cig/vape between rounds but nobody does weed.
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>>98473986
All of the people I play with are 25+
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>>98473986
Most of the heavy weed smokers at my lgs were 35+
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>>98473986
LGS here is a gamut from 15-year-old babyfaced zoomoids showing the table epic Jew meme compilations and shouting "Netanyahu Blast" before lethaling someone to geriatric borderline dementia uncs who take 15 minutes to shuffle and remember 'Nam. Most though are soilennials who got in because of Final Fantasy or Marvel or what have you.

I miss the pre-COVID LGS crowd. More people started with 60-card formats so they weren't retarded secondaries.
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>>98473974
I've done dabs at the LGS table countless times so yeah, we pretty much live in different worlds. Sorry you gotta play with normies that look at you like some sorta naked anime art autist just from it even getting mentioned.

>>98473977
Wow leaving mid game just to smoke when other people at the table don't? What weak willed faggots, sounds very rude. I don't blame you at all.
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We've got some guy who hits his vape in the middle of the fucking game. Store owner had to talk to him.
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>>98473999
I dont understand what you are trying to tell me.
the kids who visit the lgs i play at are mostly there with their dad and behave.
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>>98474014
You're a normie and must die
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>>98474008
Yeah I have seen this done, in fact it happened yesterday and the store owner had to talk with the guy, I personally don't mind but others probably do. Most store got a no smoking policy because regulations and shit.
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>>98473967
me, I have always been a teetotaler as well
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>>98474015
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>>98474014
Yeah you understand what he's trying to tell you, he's saying at his LGS the kids there are misbehaved. Dumbass ESL.
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>>98473550
In the old days dudes used to regularly step out at FNM to smoke a bowl.
>>98473967
The Professor is a lightweight, guy had a glass of wine after work a few nights a week and got worried he was making jesus cry.

t. 6-12 drinks daily for years
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>>98474019
I mind breathing that shit in secondhand.
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>>98473969
hot, I wanna cum in its empty cranium
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>>98474026
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>>98474029
Totally understandable, I'm a semi smoker that's why.
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>people who vape in a store
>People who constantly leave the table to smoke, be it cigs or weed
>People who come in and cleary have liquor in their travel mugs.
>Guys doing dip and spitting into bottles at the table
>Guys who take Adderall or Xanax before the game to "dial on" or "chill out"
Who would have thought people who play a physical gacha game would have addictive personalities?
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>>98474027
The dude visibly had his health decline over the years from it, you could plainly see it in his videos. What kind of argument is that, are you literally 17? It doesn't matter the quantity that you're drinking but whether it is actually hindering your life or not. Grow up.
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LGS should just hook up nerds to IVs pumping drugs and fast food into their maws. Every gaming store should just look like the robot pods in the matrix.
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>>98474040
I have ADHD and Magic is one of the few things I always do unmedicated, because it's one of the few things I'm autistically fixated on and don't get bored shitless by.
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Anyone have a Trostani deck? I love Miku and am buying the UB slop, I've been messing around with the deck but feels unfocused. Goldfishing I find myself needing draw. I'd like to see some real /edhg/ expert deckbuilders list. I'm on the cusp of cutting every single token maker except for the ones that make the biggest ones.

Here is my slop so far. https://archidekt.com/decks/25116898/miku_lifegain_slop
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>>98473929
right, all gamechangers should be on the banned list anyway
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>>98474040
I wish the people I played with wouldn't smoke all the weed in the world before playing. It would make for better games and less sequencing errors probably.
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>>98474060
Get some attack trigger token makers like pic related or Adeline or Dollmaker's Shop or Warren Warleader. Endless Foot Assault is slept on hard, for 5 mana you could potentially be generating 6 creatures every time you swing and as an enchantment it's harder to remove than a creature.
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>>98474060
This deck looks like it has too many moving pieces. I'd cut all the populate meme shit and just beat people to death with Serra Avatar + Overwhelming Stampede.
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>>98474125
That;s what I'm thinking, I already have Miku to populate. However, I am keeping all the Miku reskins in the deck and sadly some of them are pretty bad.
>>98474119
I guess I could hedge making masses of smaller tokens rather than big tokens. It'll let me use all those "power 2 or less draw a card" effects as well.
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>>98474134
Yeah don't worry about actual token toughness. Easy to spam is better.
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I've got a few decks in the cooker. This one I'm itching to reassemble after playing Brenard saga creatures/birthing pod. Last I built this deck was just before Final Fantasy, I want to say. The deck really came together in a confluence of synergies. It wasn't high-powered but it was very fun to pilot. Living weapons/coastal piracy effects/polymorph for the germ tokens made it a pretty unique experience.

Since Final Fantasy's advent, there have been a good amount of living weapon-adjacent cards in the form of job select. So I'll be grabbing them. In-line with the polymorph theme, I'm going to add Descendants' Fury which means adding some high-curve phyrexians and heroes (read: Marvel slop).

I'm curious if anyone has any suggestions for this sort of deck besides those. I usually do a pretty thorough search on scryfall, but equipment and artifacts have such a wide array of tags affiliated with them it's hard to catch everything.
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>>98474193
This is a power crept version of that chainsaw in your deck.
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>>98474208
I wouldn't use "powercrept" per se when it's twice the mana. Chainsaw is pretty decent at 2. Not to say Mjolnir isn't strong, but I shant be paying $25 for an equipment I'll use in one deck.
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How does she work with equipment's that already have Living Weapon, For Mirrodin or Job Select?
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>>98474208
>Legendary red or white non-villain
Rakdos confirmed Worthy
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>>98474228
It will give it another instance. So it'll have Living Weapon, Living Weapon essentially. Meaning it'll create a 0/0 germ, attach to it. Then it'll create another 0/0 germ, attach to it. The first one would normally die but because of her anthem effect it will live.
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>>98474228
How does she interact with Sword of the meek? Do germs enter as 1/1 creatures from her anthem or does it only look at base power and toughness?
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>finishing up Kuja
>could’ve swore I ordered a handful of cards already but can’t find them in storage or the sleeved deck
>bite the bullet and order the cards I think are missing
>go to sleeve them up
>don’t have enough sleeves


So not only did my dumbass lose perfectly good cards somehow, but I’ve got to get more sleeves.
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>>98474249
They aren't "1/1" creatures, they are 0/0s. It does nothing.
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>>98474252
They're 1/1 when they enter because of the commander.
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>>98474249
If the germ entered as a 0/0 it would die, it enters as a 1/1 with Ekthi in play, triggering Sword of the Meek.
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>>98474193
>living weapon with polymorph
Cool way to do it anon
for me it's Arna.
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>command beacon got like 8 printings
>still a $10 card
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>>98474264
I randomly decided I wanted to build a living weapon deck, and I just happened upon Dalakos as a more "classic" sort of way to build an EDH deck. Back in the boomer days most legendaries had a lot less build-aroundedness to them and I wanted to emulate that feeling. So I figured I'd start with a commander who doesn't really do much and work my out from there.

I like Arna in theory, but in practice she is a "remove me or lose" snowball-y sort of commander. And I try to avoid playing too many of those because too many players at my local game store are very stupid.
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>>98474267
Every card is only a few cents if you do the objective and moral thing of just buying from chang.
>Endless supply
>Better print quality than wizards themselves
>Pass every smell test but green dot
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>>98473967
Never smoked or used any kind of recreational drugs in my life. It's money I could be spending on my cardboard crack.
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>>98473967
I took and edible once while playing Magic and thought I peed myself while talking about how much I love lolis don't know if I would do it again
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I'm on holiday in a foreign country but I don't wanna miss the hobbit pre-release. Should I just bite the bullet and attend one even though English is not the primary language? Cards should be in English which makes things easier, but Idk if I want to expose myself to local LGS cringelords
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>>98474396
are you American? Every LGS is an improvement over burgerland LGSs
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>>98474401
I'm not, but I assure you that my country's LGSs are awful as well
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>>98474261
You're wrong. If the only thing keeping the Germ alive was Ekthi then Living Weapon as an ability in NPH would not have worked.

The 0/0 germ would die when state based actions are checked. Because Living Weapon creates the germ then attaches the equipment to it as part of the ability there is no point inbetween the 0/0 being created and the equipment being equipped to it where SBAs would be checked.

Similarly, most (all?) effects that produce 0/0 tokens put the +1/+1 counters on them after the initial 0/0 is created. The creature doesn't enter "with" the counters, it enters and then the counters are placed on it.
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>>98474481
Oh, I just assumed we were talking about some scenario where a stray extra germ was created like with a token doubler or with a second instance of living weapon, because most of the time when you play an equipment the little germ is gonna be p/t buffed in some way and won't pull sword of the meek from the graveyard because of that (exceptions being equipments that don't modify p/t, but it seems unlikely you'd be running a ton of them in Ekshi). You are right about everything you said though.
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>Sac Creature I do not control
>Edeas Trigger goes in front of Seers
or
>They go on the stack at the same time and I choose the order
?
I should know this but I am getting old.
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>>98474498
Ah, it was my mistake then. I had misread the intention of your post.
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Went to my first prerelease since theros beyond death 6 years ago (may have gone to duskmourn but I genuinely can't remember) went 2-1 pulled the 4 mana smaug in some sort of alt art, the green creature cost reducer and the white turn ender. Got like 1-2 other pretty decent cards. Had 40+ people there and people were dressed up in fantasy garb. They geave out a nice edition of the hobbit to the 1st person who killed the mythic red smaug with the black arrow. This happened in like the 1st 2 games lol. Ended up running gruul with mostly smaller aggressive cards doing the majority of the work. Got a lot of ramp/colorfixing stuff as well. Was able to play smaug in about half the games and the elf that had power and toughness equal to lands was clutch. Attercop's deathtouch was clutch as well. Possibly could have run black as well or golgari but was happy with how the games went. Prerelease probably is my favorite non commander format. Will say though I remember prerelease being lile $20, had to pay $45 for this one
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>>98474518
They go on the stack at the same time and you choose the order.
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>>98474535
I with my pre release events were only 3 rounds, we go 5, rarely 6. Usually there from 6 pm to midnight thirty. Long ass event
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>what the hell is that proxy?
>What, you can't tell?
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>>98474586
Fuck off anon, stop stiring the shit
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>>98474372
That is very, very, very specific. Dylan? Seriously Dylan, is that you? Send a Yuri in the group chat if this is you lol.
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>>98474598
right after "people" running shit like that do
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>>98474231
I mean he really did save the day in the Marvel movie that was War of the Spark, so...
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>>98474231
sauron being worthy is the funniest implication
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>>98474642
Being "worthy" is rather nebulous.
Dr. Doom has welded the hammer in the comics. Despite him being a villain and have done some very evil shit, due to his conviction and genuine belief everything he does is in service of a greater good (his own, but still) he is deemed worthy.
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>>98474586
>ARCSIG
>ANENET
???
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>>98474060
https://manabox.app/decks/AZ_iYpltfLaWs1ZQfHNnOw
This is my Trostani deck that I've had since 2016. I've made a little of additions and subtractions since, but it's mostly just selesnya enchantress slop.
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>>98474231
>literally named foul hearted
>is a worthy hero
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ok /tg/ serious question now, would you?
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>>98474731
looking better, still no.
love the scripts for the channel though. banger stuff lately
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>>98474730
He has heart disease. His heart is fouled up with fat from eating all the food is adoring men cook for him. He just can't say no.
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>>98474738
is he top or bottom tranny? Can more experienced anons tell?
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>>98474731
Any hole's a goal.
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>>98473780
you are fat
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>>98474731
No.
I can still tell that's a man
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I did prerelease and ended second, only because im a retard and miscounted, eventually leaving my oponent with one life.

Bilbo and his ability to steal permanent is the best card in the set, and If you happen to pull that dancing bears enchantments its practically a free win. green and blue seems to be meta, green has some nasty deadtouch spiders as well.

>>98474751
because you read that file name?
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>>98474750
Only in the dick.
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>>98474763
No, because of his jawline, brow size, and shoulder width.
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>>98474676
isn't sauron just evil for the sake of being on the side of evil though, I can't see how he could ever be worthy
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>>98474676
Dr. Doom's only flaw is that he doesn't have a line of succession planned. He is factually correct in saying he would be the best leader for everything.
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>>98474779
>sauron
IIRC his serves some other dude who just has beef with god.
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>>98474796
>>98474779
sauron might be able to overpower the enchantments on the hammer but everything about him is the complete opposite of what basically every version of Odin set as the rules for a hammer wielder
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what if you made the hammer wear the one ring
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>>98474731
I would sooner fuck elk
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>>98474779
I don't know the extended mythos of middle earth. I've only ever seen the movies. Regardless, you can rationally explain how even the balrog, a being of just fire, shadow, malice, and hatred is actually Worthy if you spin it hard enough. Which is why I said being "worthy" is nebulous.
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>go to FNM
>play commander
>win first game at my pod, everyone is salty I won so they are saying they are going to "bring out the big boy decks" whatever the fuck that means
>stomach growls
>get up to get something to eat while they dick around with their decks
>LGS buffet is out of crab legs
>mfw
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>>98474867
Last time I went to the LGS I played an Island then everyone started laughing and throwing crab legs at me.
Very traumatic experience but I think that might explain it.
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>>98474867
>LGS buffet
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how do you guys prevent the butter and crab juice from other players cracking open their crab legs during games from getting on your sleeves? I always have a problem with that
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>>98474880
I find the butter helps with smooth shuffling
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>>98474880
I have one of these badboys from the days of Covid.
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>>98474867
>buffet
>crab legs
this is some sort of elaborate joke because that sounds too good to be true
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>>98474930
some LGS do free pizza and beer, some do crablegs.
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sure people love the sea bugs but everyone got upset when I brought tons of free locusts for everyone to eat
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What's the forecast of Miku representation at the table once her deck comes out?
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>>98474944
i mean are they fried and seasoned? ive had grasshopper before and it ain't bad. it isn't the bee's knees or anything but id eat it if its in front of me.
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>>98474731
Probaboy, yeah, but I'd have to see her body more. If it's a rectangle, I probably couldn't stomach it, or if her peepee was too small and couldn't get hard, or she was cut and it left bad scarring as is often the case, then it wouldn't be worth it.
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>>98474938
my LGS got like 20 pizzas with different toppings for everyone at the turtles pre-release since they knew that turnout wasn't going to be great. Very comfy prerelease and it turned me onto chicken and banana pepper pizza
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>>98474957
no they were freshly caught
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>>98474953
Low, modern audience finds miku "icky" because she is "a child"
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https://archidekt.com/decks/24872950
I decided to smash 2 of my ideas into 1 because it seems to work well together. Use the little discard guys to clog up the ground and disrupt hands to help keep the initiative and get Barrowin active, I could probably add some more good 3 drop creatures for her to bring back.
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>>98475002
nah miku is super popular, it's one of the approved safe "thing, japan!!!!" items.
Doing a Mushoku Tensei deck would collide with this
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>>98475012
Not according to the modern audience, no. Cannot have remotely attractive things, otherwise the trannies and ugly women feel bad about themselves.
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>>98475012
Not from the discourse I have read and heard.
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>>98475022
miku is normally shown in modest outfits and is loved by even the most annoying leftists
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>>98475009
Instead of fucking around with dungeon stuff, why not just play her?
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>>98475032
Not the ones I play.
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>>98475002
Wow really?
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you really missed miku spam during the football world cup? Miku is the most normie of normie characters ever, she is in fortnite
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>>98475038
Wake me up when WotC starts designing cards like this.
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>>98475095
you didn't like bearscape? You are only allowed erotic images if it's gay to punish the cis white male playerbase
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I want to build a cheap Commander deck to play casually, but on Cardmarket the shipping price adds up quickly and it becomes far too expensive. Is there a better way to do it?

I'm in Europe.
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>>98475111
facebook groups, make a post saying buying edh decks 70% cardmarket low, someone will probably want to offload random decks they made too many of
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>>98475012
this. I'm seeing fucking crayon drawings in appalachia of all places
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>>98472649
>So much text on the red creature
You're bad at this
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>>98475115
People still use Facebook?
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>>98475136
He's a larper, so that goes without saying
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>>98475105
Is this all you think about?
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>>98475137
marketplace yes absolutely
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>>98474676
Dr Doom is right though. Everything he does is in the pursuit of a greater good and if he succeeded the world would be better off in the long term.
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>>98472626
Because despite what the RC said, it was always about their personal feelings. Primeval Titan hurt their feelings because it ramped out your two best lands over and over. You have retards that kneejerk
>nooooo it should be banned forever I love drinking cum
but truthfully, Brackets solve any issue Primetime would encounter in current EDH. If you're tutoring up cradle and an untapper, then you are clearly playing in a high power pod
>But muh 20/20 flying hecking indestructible creature
no one gives a shit. If Consecrated Sphinx is a game changer, than primetime should also be one. Now here come the tards who will tell me how tutoring your two strongest land every turn is game breaking.
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>>98475166
Found the doom bot
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>>98475182
Two more weeks. Any day now. Trust the plan.
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>>98472649
>Can't be countered
That's so weak nowadays.
Return the spell or whatever else we have now. Airbend it before it resolves. Exile it on the stack.
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>>98475201
The only cards that can exile Emrakul from the stack below 4 mana are Mindbreak Trap and Aven Interruptor. Aven Interruptor is not useful here because of the extra turn. Of course if you want to pretend that return to hand is useful against cast trigger extra turn there's a few more options.
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>>98475215
So emrakul is only good because of the extra turn? Yikes.
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>>98475166
>t.
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>>98475243
>Cast it again on your extra turn
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>>98475253
>There's no protection against extra turns
Have you stopped playing when emrakul was banned?
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Perfect print quality as always wizards
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>>98475259
Shut up pig, eat the slop. In fact, take a 15% price increase you fucking go- pig!
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>>98475257
So are we now running Gerrard's Hourglass Pendant just for this exact scenario, or is the Emrakul player being retarded and casting it into Trouble In Pairs?
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Can someone give me some ideas to put into my deck? I kind of want it to be Stompy

https://archidekt.com/decks/24832872/the_open_road
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>>98475259
>counterfeits are now identifiable because the card isn't a blurry misprinted mess
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>>98475273
The very first thing. Ditch all that equipment.
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>>98475272
The emrakul player is just goldfishing and winning against people that just do nothing. You've convinced me. That emrakul player won. By playing commander with just one player. Himself
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Let's say I wanna run one of the hot lady Planeswalkers as my commander. What are the options now? Should I wait till reality fracture?
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how'd you gay queers do at pre-release? pulled this little nibba from a collector's I bought. did pretty shitty in the actual draft though. everyone's playing red & white
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>>98475339
>buying collectors slop
Thanks for funding the game.
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>>98475281
Yes I'm sure big boys like you always hold 4 open for Summary Dismissal because that's a good card that people run.
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>>98475339
Very based, but I'm seeing a lack of pre release alternative cards, it's just been you and me here >>98472628. What gives? My local game shop had 93 participants (never had such numbers before) so I'm curious.
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Will the Reality Shift prerelease be more affordable? Boxes too? The UB tax won't apply right
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>>98475440
No, Like rents, once it is established people will pay, it will not go down.
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>>98475339
won a 16man one (which is big for our area) with WR dwarfs getting carried by mono red mythic gandalf and the spark starter. Now I have a dumb idea of a deck where i copy the flameshape a lot to then have a stockpile when eventually casting him from exile/adventure but realistically he's a part of 99
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>being a cuck stacking older sealed instead of a collector box flipping chad
Feelsbad bros
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>>98475542
Not even chatgpt could decipher this post btw
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>>98474304
This guy gets it.
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>>98475552
I thought that was pretty legible as far as shit posts go.

Collector boxes (of magic the gathering) sell much faster and are easier to resell than dusty old sets of magic. Thus I was memeing on myself for preferring to purchase older sealed booster boxes that are harder to sell over just reselling collector boosters by calling myself a cuck.
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>>98472888
Run 'raha instead
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>>98472888
this is such horrible AI art usage, just using a shitty model I am not even against AI
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>>98474930
Old /k/ meme. LGS means the same thing if the G is Game or Gun
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>>98472888
More cards like this?
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>>98475705
TapThatProxies on etsy, which I hate on name alone, and will never support, but giving the information anyway.
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>>98473344
100%
Literally some of the priciest secret lair cards were print to demand. This was print to demand and it's like over 200 dollars now.
The 14th doctor was print to demand and he is like 110 dollars.
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>>98475714
Bro the Buster Sword is 210$ right now.
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>>98475709
Do they take custom orders?
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>>98475444
From what I understand, yes. I think they were at strixhaven, but honestly I don't know how much UBshit costs, so I couldn't say.
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>>98475716
What buster sword? I just looked on tcgplayer and the most expensive one is like 80 and isn't SLD

The jitte one is like 20 bucks.
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>>98475728
Borderless Foil
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>>98475444
UB cards cost more because they have to pay licensing fees + people will pay more for UB cards. If WotC thought their own IP was equally valuable compared to UB, they wouldn't need to do UB in the first place.
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>>98475740
I don't get your point. That isn't a SLD card.
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>>98475728
>>98475716
NTA
Also monoply money, btw.
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>>98475750
My point exactly, SLD are shit if you're talking about price
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>>98475719
I don't know, Go to their shop and ask them.
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>>98475751
Also not a secret lair card so I have no clue what the fuck this has to do with print to demand sld
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>>98475741
What's reaply funny is that they pay liceasing fees at all. Most deals like this would consider it cross-brand promotion, but both sides know that existing mtg fans loath UB, so it only appeals to fans of the other peomoted brand, qnd in turn is promoting mtg to those fans.
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>>98475763
That's how almost all merchandising works. Even Fortnite at its peak paid licensing fees despite the fact that a crossover was prestigious and extremely lucrative.
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>>98475751
Aaaaiiieeee
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>>98475788
Checked, enjoy your new house in 10 years btw.
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>>98475709
I just see her brapping.
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>>98475709
Thanks anon! They only have like 5 cards, that's a shame because the art certainly is provocative.
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>>98475839
>>98475709
garbage, you can make so much nicer ai art take a look at /ldg/ on /g/
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>>98475111
Can't truly recommend them as I am still waiting for them to fulfill the delivery, but Cardtrader seems to cut down on shipping costs dramatically, as long as you use their card trader zero program.
You'll have to accept that you might be waiting a month+ before you get your cards though.
Also, don't be an idiot like me and make sure to check estimated delivery for all the cards you order. So you don't end up waiting 2 months for the last card out of the entire deck.
t. Fellow European
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the most important euro tip is block italy as both buying and selling to
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>>98475853
No one asked.
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>>98475876
I did
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>>98475861
>month+ before you get your cards though
if you order from spain or italy you're throwing a coin anyway if you will have to wait a month over due to a random strike
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>>98475136
>>98475141
>rograkh has so much text!!
It only has 4 words in it, reminder text doesnt count you faggots
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>>98475948
Shut the fuck up and go play the decks you don't actually own.
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>>98475948
What about flavor text? Does that count?
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>>98472649
emmy raped in multiple 1v1 formats though
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>>98475959
Every single card should have flavour text.
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>>98475956
I printed the cardboard via my printer therefore i own the card, piggy
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>>98475959
Crypt ghast should only be in orzhov yes
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>>98476009
basado
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>>98475948
>reminder text doesnt count you faggots
this is what magicels actually believe
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>>98476027
>>98476017
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>>98475853
Yeah, but then I'd have to do work and get into whatever /g/ and /idg/ is into to make something good, but I have landscaping to do and I just want to pay someone to make a good looking proxy that I can play on my day off.
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>>98476027
>fuck man yugioh has so many words on the cards it's like reading a novel
>anyways here's my spell when I convoke it for its kicker I can surveil, discover, manifest dread, venture into the dungeon, and the ring tempts me
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>>98476045
even then, that is trash compared to just searching for a proxy of her on etsy
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I play 60 cards online, I'm getting into EDH and I don't understand the "gamechanger" list. It's just tutors, some finishes, Farewell etc etc while a lot of card draw engines are left unchecked. Am I retarded or is the list completely useless in terms of determining different power levels?
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>>98476057
It's fairly useless yes.
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>>98476057
it's a mix of cards that are too strong, and some cards which bad players get salty over. It's a decent guide to help you not play cards that shitters will freak out over
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>>98476045
Look.
What YOU WANT doesn't matter.
You need to appeal to what I want.
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>>98476079
Magic players explaining why we need the Jacestice League back like it won't kill the game
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>>98476057
>demonic tutor is just a tutor bro why wont they make it legal so dimir is better in standard?
If you can understand bans are essentially by fiat then you should understand gamechangers
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>>98476082
Magic players doing and talking about anything.
Lets me real here.
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ban every card then slowly whitelist some in sorry I mean list of coolcolor
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>>98476050
dungeon and ring are both awful for that honestly
and by extension initiative is even worse since it's a mechanic stapled to a dungeon (what the fuck were they thinking)
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>>98476045
Go get one then you nerd.
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>>98476103
she cute but fat
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>>98475124
cool
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>>98476109
based if true
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Does anyone know how much more draw the average commander deck has nowadays? There are so many cheap creatures with draw effects
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>>98476120
0.8 cards. Sometimes the commander draws cards and beyond that people will put no draw in the deck then wonder why they lost.
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>>98476120
on average every fucking turn in the deck after turn 2 draws at least one card
the average commander has a draw trigger in its rules text
at mv 3 it's just a draw trigger
at mv 4 it's also a value engine that wins the game on its own if it's allowed to go off
at mv 5 or above it's Kefka and MOM Etali where the card wins the entire game just by existing (Kefka's flipside says "draw 8 billion cards every turn cycle" btw)

so yeah you could say that the average deck has a lot of draw nowadays, if your commander doesn't draw then your deck will need to be like 30% draw in order to keep up. or make an aggro plan that ends on turn 7 without drawing (easier said than done)
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>>98474304
Best place to buy chang cards? I don't want to give wizards more money.
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>>98472888
i think it's creeping on territory that there are no ways that won't have people up in arms unless its a precon night where she suffers from schizophrenia (but still draws cards)
even the newbs are being told how much she draws if not interacted with that either they build her or are aiming to murder you/her. Maybe if you a total meme or mismatch like vehicles and esper aggro (why wouldn't you proxy jin then being the chain of thought) people would let it slip but otherwise forget it
>enchantress
even more draw and otherwise usualy its either stax or game enders
>rocks/artifacts
so she feeds herself to ping down you mean?
>harem/trigger multipliers
good luck having a rotation with her without some shit like triple boardwipe beforehand so people are bit depleted on hands
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>>98476137
Why did I have to get in just as the format turned fake and gay
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>>98476146
>harem multipliers
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watch them SQUIRM when you play this
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>>98472888
you don't need to play yshtola if you dont want aggro play a worse commander
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>>98476148
the stuff I wrote about commanders started being true like five years ago to be totally honest. in the last three years is when the standard set design started being about commander cards too. so now even the commons, uncommons and rares are designed with commander in mind. which, in some ways, is actually pretty cool if you're into commander. because it means every set has a lot of thought-provoking cards that could go into a variety of decks at a variety of power levels.
but yeah everyone tends to run cookie-cutter, obvious, strong commanders now. and the power level is a lot higher than it used to be
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>>98476153
just ignore that some of them will be guys in drag like Chameleon and Taskmaster
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>>98476097
That's fair but I still don't know the difference between discover and explore off the top of my head
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>>98476176
What are your least favourite commanders?
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>>98472888
Don't have her ever leave the command zone.
Once she does. You're a threat because everyone else taking game actions just gives you draw.
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selphie commander when
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>>98476148
i feel the same way baka
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Pick your value engine commander and build a B2-3 synergy slop around it
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>>98476268
How is that a fact
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>>98476268
No.
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>>98476284
we didn't know how good we had it
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>the most popular commander in the world will soon be a UB commander
Infinite feed, infinite sneed
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>>98476314
She'll be overtaken by Gay Deathwing when UB: Warcraft comes out.
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>>98476322
Do you think Arthas will be mono B or Grixis?
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>>98476324
WB
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>>98475709
It looks like she's just blasting ass
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>>98476324
Mardu because paladins will be boros equipment tribe.
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>>98476327
GIWTWM
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>>98476188
I don't have least favorite commanders, at least not in principle. You can make anything interesting if you try. idk, maybe it's Edgar Markov actually.
but my least favorite cards are definitely Rhystic Study and Smothering Tithe
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>>98476314
>the most popular commander is one who represents their colors well, enables myriad strategies, isn't limited by any fake balance nonsense like sorcery speed or once a turn, is dirt cheap to buy, and helps do the single most important thing in the game: draw

Literally wouldn't matter if Yshtola was instead a fat black UW afro woman, she'd still be top 10. Her success is more telling of how shittily designed most commanders are.
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>>98476349
ehhh it might matter a little bit
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>>98476349
I think the fact she came out of the most profitable set of all-time helps a lot. Emrakul being in every box is what led to it becoming so ubiquitous it got banned.
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>>98476322
>Dragon Aspect Orgy
What does it do?
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>>98476365
Reskin of Rite of the Dragoncaller
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>>98476349
>Literally wouldn't matter if Yshtola was instead a fat black UW afro woman, she'd still be top 10.
Kinnan is far stronger than Yshtola but is only #58 because he's a fucking mongoloid
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>>98476268
>commander value engine
>synergy pile deck
>bracket 2-3
That's every deck for me. I didn't think there was another way to play.
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>>98476314
I think we all need to come together and spam build a bunch of generic nothing Atraxa Pile and overtake her.
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>>98476374
I made a collage of Jason Rainville faces recently
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>>98476379
>we all need to come together
Fat chance as monsterfuckers are only a vocal minority and the novelty of an actually functional 4 color commander has long lost its luster
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>>98476382
Fucking hell, Jotc, fire this man.
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>>98476382
Loks like an artist all too happy to draw DEI for the bag at the very least
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>>98476379
I literally don't care what is popular on edhrec.
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>>98476393
Fair. Top is sloppa in any case.
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>>98476379
What if instead of generic atraxa piles we make 100000 iterations of atraxa level up.dec?
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>>98476397
Whatever you want, m80
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Is chainer too tryhard? I want to do stupid shit. I also pulled aragorn and he looks fun to do stupid things with
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>>98476390
"at the least", yeah good way of putting it. I was particularly annoyed by that rendition of Halana and Alena, since their original illustrations (by Zoltan Boros!) managed to still look tough while still being somewhat fetching
>>98476389
I wouldn't go *that* far. I also made a montage of my favorites by Jason Rainville. His technical and composition skills are excellent. He's great at drawing monsters and, no surprise, brutish ugly men. I love Mardu Skullhunter
Just... some of those faces, man...
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>>98476411
Chainer isn’t that bad
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How the fuck is Miku deck "300$" worth of card according to Pr*fessor when it's just bracket 2 and not that strong?
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>>98476420
are you aware that there is a website called tcgplayer and that on that website you can check the price of cards?
or, is it the idea that weaker decks can be more expensive than stronger decks that's tripping you up? because yes, weaker decks can be more expensive than stronger decks by having more synergistic game plans rather than just a pile of expensive generically good cards

I think if you meditate on these two facts you will reach the answer to your question
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>>98476428
>Tgcuck
Insane markups, just order from Europe and secondly, reprints dump prices. If card is weak then reprint will dumpster it
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>>98476438
>If card is weak then reprint will dumpster it
so there was a part in the video where he talked about that... but to be fair this is all slightly uncharted territory since it's print-to-demand this time around.
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>>98475421
very cool, great card. I pulled the regular one of that from my "prize" (consolation) booster. I didnt see anyone with the regular version of Gleaming Splendor despite almost everyone playing red & white. did you see it?

the store I went to had 56 people and I heard the judge saying we had 1 more than this other store in town which is just under capacity for both of them. theres a 3rd store thats usually the best for commander, they were busy as well.

>>98475519
lucky, my only mythic in the actual pre-release boosters was Arkenstone. I had Roads Go Ever, Ever on as well which saved my ass but was missing solid firepower in the creature department. might go back on Sunday
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>>98473407
I dunno but I'm building this one. she's not on modo though unfortunately which is how I like to play test
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>I didnt see anyone with the regular version of Gleaming Splendor despite almost everyone playing red & white. did you see it?
Nope, neither the regular version or the book cover version, where I was only myself go that Gandalf one, and another guy got The One Ring from the 200$ 30 Booster Pack Box. And my Gandalf was from my first and only win (we had 3 rounds) booster reward. I didn't heard anyone else celebrating so I assume both of us were just that lucky. This was w9th 91 participants (or 93 idk).
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Forgot to reply

>>98476471 was meant for >>98476452
I also got that Saga card on my Sealed pre release packs.
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>>98476314
UBfags truly are niggers.
They demand they be allowed to segregate with everyone.
The ruin everything they touch
They get pandered to by white liberal idiots despite being a plague
They accomplish nothing themselves, then take credit for it.
They get brain dead do nothing get rewarded commanded like Y'sholta like no child left beind policy that lets them coast with no effort put in.
And I'm so tried of it. UBnigger fatigue.
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I just want to build a B3 aggro deck with tymna + kamal
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>>98473999
it takes a long time to shuffle properly you negroid
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>>98473967
weed is ultra gay, smelled it slightly at pre-release on one dude but thankfully weed is banned in my state (I voted to keep it banned), although I'm rocked out on like 12g of kratom when I go in usually (like having a fat perc)

>>98473986
same few dudes go out an hit vapes. one or two might still burn a real fag. I've put in zyn's (then used hand sanitizer of course) and no one batted an eye once

>>98474000
hope that store gets busted for being an open air drug market
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>>98474008
thats what I miss about kitchen table. back in the old days (2009-2013) we'd be chiefing on cigs, making with a forty going around. someone might have a weed pipe but weed sucks.

vapes should be legal to openly hit majorly in all LGS. but in any case just use zyn's or Nic gum
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This looking alright?
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>>98476045
>>98476103


https://www.etsy.com/search?q=yshtola+proxy+mtg


post your favorite yshtola, people have got creative
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>>98476534
>weed is ultra gay, smelled it slightly at pre-release on one dude but thankfully weed is banned in my state (I voted to keep it banned), although I'm rocked out on like 12g of kratom when I go in usually (like having a fat perc)
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>>98476586
Because it was free.
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>>98476586
Actual cat > catgirl
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>>98475273
>>98475280
Anything else?
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>>98476602
DAMN
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>>98476623
Do you really want it to be a 2?
If not, you need more interaction.
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Thots on the sentry as a commander?
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why do people act like the "creatures of any color of this type" rule breakers allow... new decks or something? is it because fagvin said so in his video? nothing stops you from, for example, running the ur-dragon using 5c dragons but only red non-dragon cards. you could always build an actual deck instead of slamming every edh staple in a 5c pile, why do people act like these shit cards are the only thing that gives them permission to do so?
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>>98476734
because they are retarded autists
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>>98476734
I am just annoyed at the cringe battle of wits decks, they will not be fun to exist
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>>98476734
Yes, having, playing, and building more 5c slop piles in a poor manner is better than getting access to more colors but not being able to slopifiy it with gay staples.
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>>98476734
Well if you read the rest of the text on the card, you might notice it looks a little different than cards you've seen before.

We call this a "new card" and some of them have "new effects". Reading a new card may help better understand what these new effects may be and how they might be different than other cards you may have seen.

Hope that helps, retard.
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>>98476734
Because faggot retards like this >>98476766 eat this shit up.
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>>98476734
New bad.
Old good.
Must. Suck. Zombie. Sheldon. Cock.
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>>98476734
i see no one was able to give a coherent answer. guess you're really just retards who can only conceive of two kinds of deckbuilding: "shit" and "shit but with limitations". because you're shit deckbuilders.
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>>98476734
Because the average EDH player is autistic and retarded. Look at how they fight tooth and nail over hybrid mana when there's maybe one hybrid card worth playing.
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>>98476772
That's fine, you can just run Progenitus in the command zone and never cast him ever if you just want 5c and don't give a fuck about what's printed on them.

It's asinine to declare that new commanders can't make new decks; especially ones with new effects or differing costs. Find something less retarded to be mad about.
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>>98476791
add a dumb fish?
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>>98476734
Because most people would rather not have a repeat of Golos where every deck is helmed by Tymna and either Thrasios or Kraum.
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>>98476798
I never understood this. Color Identity is not about "intent of the card" or what ever. It is plainly stated what it is.
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>>98476809
Yes. Have a dumb fish that likes nothing but card draw go through the deck and make changes. Because the average EDH player is not capable of figuring out that drawing cards is good.
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>>98476812
>Golos
>Tymna
>Thrasiso
>Kraum
I have literally never encounter any of these in a pod in 10+ years.
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>>98476814
Case in point.
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>>98476818
Golos was so popular he ended up getting banned. Sorry you don't play with new faces too often anon.
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>>98476819
>The color identity of a card is the combination of all colors in its mana cost, any color indicator or color-setting characteristic-defining abilities on the card, and any mana symbols in the card's rules text. When determining a card's color identity, any mana symbols in the card's reminder text are ignored. This is to prevent cards like Charmed Pendant and Trinisphere from having a color identity when their reminder text is only an example of how the card functions.[1]
What's so hard to understand about this?
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>>98476809
Well, Mystic Remora would make most decks instantly better, yes.
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>>98476824
>Autistic retard, in an effort to prove he's not an autistic retard, gives autistic and retarded reply
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>>98476822
Golos was popular on EDHrec, just like catslut is right now. You'd expect to see catslut or urdragon every other game. People uploading decklist to EDHrec is not indicative of how many people actually build those decks in paper.
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>>98476824
What is color identity can change you retard.
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>>98476829
>>98476837
Not an argument. Color Identity is clearly spelled out. You have a problem, then bug your masters to change the rules. This weird schizo thing you people babble about is sad.
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>>98474703
>don't dead
>open inside
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>>98476639
Im ok with a two but I think i want to shoot for a three
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>>98476833
(Almost) 50k Ur-Dragon decks out of 9.59 million total decks is close to 0.5% presence anon. A deck doesn't have to be over 50% of all decks to be the leading deck. If anything, I would be concerned if a commander was helming 25% of all decks to show up in every game.
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>>98476839
Autistic retard continues self-reporting as autistic retard exactly as predicted.
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>>98476845
Like I said, that is decklist uploaded. How many of the top commanders do you actually personally encounter?
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>>98476761
They'll vanish quickly because an entire deck around one card like Battle of wits is retarded. The real way you do it is by shoving in tons of "any number" creature cards
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>>98476850
Like I said nerd. You have a problem with the rules, the beg your masters to change them. By the rules we have right now, hybrid is sorted. It is whatever CI that it is. Get on your knees and beg your tranny masters to change the rules if you have a problem. No one plays hybridslop anyway.
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>>98476839
>We are thinking about changing the rule, and we own the game, how does the community feel about it?
>REEEEE! it will break the game, sheldon's cock must be sucked! Think about the purity of commander! Now let me go back to playing my partner commanders.
>The people who REEEEd about it are pretty dumb as most hybrid cards are nothing burgers and would just be niche flex cards, people really worried about people playing 8 mana to play mono red reaper king.
>Actually, you don't know what color identity is, beg your masters to change it.
Please by all means keep proving you are in fact, a retard.
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>>98476852
Literally all of them because I play the game regularly with more than one population sample. It's not "these commanders are in literally every game" but they definitely show up more often.
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>>98476862
Autistic retard keeps talking to himself, proving he is an autistic retard.
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SOON
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>>98476863
What the fuck are you talking about? If you want to play hybrid so badly, then rule 0 it or beg your masters to change the rules.
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>>98476864
I have 8 Different LGS in my city and play commander Wed, Thurs, Fri and Monday and I've encountered 1 Ur-Dragon deck and 4 catslut decks. To be honest, I'd like to get some realworld stats on Played Vs EDHrec commanders, but have no idea how to do such a thing.
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>>98476864
>People really be outside with hairlines like this
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>>98476878
based New Yorker
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>>98476870
>Recount the course of the events of both the proposed hybrid change, the community's reaction to it, as well as the course of this discussion
>The fuck are you talking about?!
Really not beating the vapid retard allegations.
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>>98476878
That would require a digital client for EDH that's less atrocious than MTGO, so that's 4 years off, minimum. Likely more.
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>>98476868
Get rid of the retarded reserve list first
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>>98476888
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>>98476890
It's still baffling that they bothered to make Arena but not have it set up for 4 player commander. Like that should have been priority #1 to make sure whatever engine and UI they are using for this new client can run their most popular format.
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people really buy the waifu etsy alters, why, who do you play them with
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>>98476899
>t. Proven retard
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>>98476890
I mean, we could start tracking our personal games. That does take effort though. Maybe a website or app like "games played" where you'd upload what commanders were played in your pod. Maybe even add a win/loss type deal. It would be nice to have actually played decks rate, I've not seen a Edgar deck in like a year.
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>>98476903
People at the LGS
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>>98476903
All comers. (And all coomers.)
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I only ever buy sexy tokens from etsy.
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>>98476914
hey bro don't look now but I think some of your angels are actually demons
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>>98476918
What? No way!
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>>98476922
prompts?
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>>98476923
Less was an inkcel far before the Slop Era. Not to say they slopfree now.
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>>98476902
Arena's development began in 2014 to capitalize off Hearthstone's boom. Commander was still growing at the time so they didn't think it would eclipse Standard and Modern in only 2 years.
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>>98476933
EDH was popular enough where they started making precons in 2011. This easily should have been a top priority when making a new client even back in 2014 especially when it would have made the game stand out more compared to competitors like Hearthstone.
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>>98476893
It will never happen.
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>>98476945
It does if Hasbro ever wants it to. WOTC doesn't actually have a final say
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>>98476933
>billion dollar corp
>Can't spare 5 million USD to hire some interns to shit out a commander client
The honest truth is, splitting the digital player base the first time was a hard sell, doing it a 3rd time is not likely.
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>>98476949
If there was a client ONLY for commander then building up your collection of relevant cards again may not be too bad since you'd only need 1 of each. But of course totally depends on how jewish they would get with it.
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>Instantiate
WWBB
Instant
Abilities cannot trigger while this spell is on the stack, and replacement effects cannot occur.
Choose a player that has lost the game, their life total becomes their starting life total, they lose all counters and emblems, then that player searches their library for up to 5 basic lands and up to one permanent and puts them onto the battlefield tapped. Then that player draws 7 cards. They resume taking turns in the previous turn order.

For the rest of the game you and permanents you control have protection from that player.
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Getting roped in arena by one player when prio must be passed if bad enough. Imagine 3 people doing it to you.
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>>98476945
not so fast
>>98476949
wotc has an AMAZING track record of digital fuckups, they're actually a masterclass at not doing well with anything digital
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>>98476967
A least in 4 player if one faggot is constantly roping everyone else will target them.
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>>98476967
mythgard had two-headed giant on launch and it was awful
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Post pet cards.
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>>98476949
$5mil is extremely low especially given that Arena's own development was extremely rushed to get it out in 3 years before the hype completely died. You're looking at more the $50mil+ range if you want the client to actually work. Arena itself likely cost $20mil for a card pool that only included Standard.
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>>98476986
she cute
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>>98476942
See >>98476999
They were already rushing the client and it's likely Commander was not a priority until it was too late to make any changes. They were barely able to implement Standard's card pool and with Commander being a Legacy format, it would have been a very large undertaking that could have sank the entire project.
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>>98476999
I'll do it for 25m, and then run off with the money. Tax write off!
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>>98477030
NEW
>>98477030
NEW
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>>98476621
>aislop
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>>98477617
He said the best I could find. They're all aislop.



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