Dreamy Yeast Infection EditionPrevious: >>98477030>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Have you done any 'sickness' or 'disease' theme decks? Bonus points if not mono black
>>98482564>TQ: Have you done any 'sickness' or 'disease' theme decks? Bonus points if not mono blackNo. Shit TQ btw
Elden ring anon, if you're still here, have you done a Miquella?
>>98482586no
>>98482605blocks you're path
>>98482586I'd rather see a sekiro deck personally
Why is Miku a life gain cuck
>>98482613booba
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98482614Why wouldn't she be
What's the right vibe for this deck? https://moxfield.com/decks/WaapTJQE0kmR43JOz31B7A
>>98482564>TQ: Have you done any 'sickness' or 'disease' theme decks? Bonus points if not mono blackI've wanted to make a "poisoned"/DoT deck with rad counters but there's not enough (good) support
>>98482586>>98482589dyou think this fits
>>98482720https://moxfield.com/search/cards?q=o%3A%22-1%2F-1%20counter%22%20t%3Alegend%20t%3Acreature&advanced=we need commanders that enter with/benefit from -1/-1 counters
>>98482738>treefolk >whiteWhy isn't this jund? This offends me.
>>98482755They threw out the color pie a loonnngg time ago, anon. It's a fucking shame, too
>>98482755Treefolk are WBG on LorwynDoes not exactly excuse it lacking any G though
Why did Elk get another redesign?
>>98482813xhe's an attention whore
>>98482813comments on that video are fucking hilarious btw, so many commander mongoloids failing the basic logic test of what milling 1 card does even though it was exhaustively overexplained in the video
>>98482816it removed 1 card from the game I wanted
If you mill me I will cry
>>98482816The average Commander "player" responds to Thought Scour like you just resolved double Agent of Treachery.
>>98482813looks young so propably to appeal some certain audience
If there is one thing commander nailed was people really really REALLY like having a deck leader in their card game and other newer tcgs are having success with the same gimmick.>One Piece has deck leaders>massive success>Gundam, another Bandai tcg, didn't have a deck leader>flop>Naruto, next Bandai tcg, already confirmed to have deck leaders>Riftbound has deck leaders>has been successful so far
>>98482876so why did concord fail then? CHECKMATE CHUD
>>98482876I've seen Yugioh fags speculating they'll bring back the Deckmaster thing from the cartoon to revive interest.>>98482890Did concord have a card game? I must have missed that, it'd be really funny.
>>98482894What makes him a pedo?
>>98482904Yugioh had a leader format that was supposed to come out years ago but never did. Every other format on the document happened except for Deck Master.Konami likely cancelled it because of how much of an unbalanced mess it would be. Yugioh is NOT set up to have a commander. They'd likely have to introduce brand new cards specifically made to be Deck Leaders to make it function.
>>98482916The new avatar. It's just TOO sexy *smacks lips
>>98482916The fact that he's a furfag, duh.>>98482953Y'all need jesus
>>98482957So, nothing. You made it up.
>>98482941>Konami likely cancelled it because of how much of an unbalanced mess it would be. Yugioh is NOT set up to have a commander. They'd likely have to introduce brand new cards specifically made to be Deck Leaders to make it function.Plus the whole thing where you have to put your soul in your favorite card. That sounds like a hassle.>>98482962No he's pretty open about it, but I gather by your defensive stance that you're not actually having a discussion but just upset because something you like is being criticized so I suppose we can leave it at that!
>>98482969>He's open about being a pedophilesource?
>>98482876It's weird they never did a pokemon format where you have a trainer as a deck leader
>>98482980their game is a soltaire already
>>98482980Pokemon never gave a shit about trying to get people to PLAY their card game to begin with.
>>98482778But there's a ton of trees that lack green on Lorwyn. Just from the top of my head you have Indomitable Ancients, Black Poplar Shaman and Fendeep Summoner. A non green treefolk is entirely plausible and the card's effect is not particularly green either.
why the focus on cat climing ranks? is it because it's UB? Is it because it took 10 years of powercreep to bypass the design mistakes of cmd17?
>>98483029a Japanese anime waifu becoming the #1 card in all of Magic the Gathering is just kind of a funny development I thinkvarious people feel various ways about it and etc
>>98483029>is it because it's UB?partly yes, but also because she's a cute cat-eared waifu>Is it because it took 10 years of powercreep to bypass the design mistakes of cmd17?kinnan is a cedh pillar but is only #58 because he's a fucking mongoloid
wizard staff would double both the +1 and copy parts of lucea kane right
What's the best way to proxy cards in Europe? I want to fill out my Miku deck with multiple variants so I need around 100 extra cards for different types and themes, hopefully without being gouged.Also, will people be mad if I use custom cards if I've spent real money on other stuff? Like custom Miku proxies of real cards alongside my own real Miku cards? Should I therefore proxy things twice, one with Miku art and other with traditional art?>>98483037I didn't care about Magic product until Miku. I played arena but I didn't own physical cards. I've played a lot of arena, mostly limited but I've gone top 200 mythic multiple times. Never had to spent a single cent to enjoy MTG. but then Mikus SL came out and I bought that because I love Miku, then 2nd SL came out, bought that as well. Then the third lair arrived, it didn't have much value but the Elspeth was nice so I naturally ordered it as is my style.I voted with my wallet and it worked. I might actually, unironically play physical magic now a proper Miku deck is coming.Here is my favourite Miku song: https://youtu.be/Yq0zBXN1o2A
I fucking love looking at predh lists, they remind me of those old youtube deck tech videos.
>>98483056>the counter part yup, that's a triggered ability>the copy partI think not. Unless I'm misunderstanding, the copy ability, is a delayed triggered ability *of her activated ability*, not of Lucea Kane. for comparison, if she died or the staff was destroyed before you triggered it by casting an X spell, the delayed trigger would still go off.
>>98483063People will be mad if you slop out AI garbage or deliberately fuck with rules text, otherwise no one cares
>>98483063So I think I started at the end Amonkhet? That's went Arena came out so it took almost 10 years for WoTC to get any money out of me. I think this is why UB is so successful, you can proxy product but I wouldn't want to proxy Miku
>>98483063etsy/chinks or some regional proxy maker. You can of course use american ones but consider that depending on size you will take time to arrive (but so will the SLD lol). As to people getting mad its just the general stance on proxies, as long as its not weird art (like idk, the regional miku fan variants with double G tits) people would be generally ok
>>98483063btw, this is exactly the type of player WotC is pandering to via UB
>>98483063that's cool mine is triple baka
>>98482971the avatar..
>>98483076I wouldn't have believed it would work until I saw so many people voluntarily say that it worked on them.
>people actually doubted the plan would work
>>98483076Why did Magic fail where WH40K succeeded as a franchise?
>>98483116warhammer was unashamedly retarded
>>98483116It had a far more original idea. MTG is just "Temu Tolkien"
>Already in 4% of decks since it was releasedWhat will this number settle at?
>>98483174Better than tithe so like 30%
>>98483178ehhh I don't think it's better than tithe at most tables, maybe in cedh
>>98483076What's wrong with that? I'm probably better at magic than most players
>>98483180Getting one or two tapped treasure a round is way better than getting 10 untapped ones.In all seriousness this card is brutally overrated and not very great. The reason to run it is you are b2 and cannot run the vastly superior option.
>>98483182please understand they're trying to gatekeep you from soiling this beautiful piece of work and the vistas associated with it
>>98483190You really like this art
>>98483180It does have a lot of things going for it in terms of being better>only 2 mana>flies under the radar, nobody is going to blow up a 2 mana enchantment that doesnt affect them at all>you dont have to ask if they pay the 2, so they forget this exists>The perception of power is lower than tithe so you dont get hate for it>Can trigger itself, refund a treasure, and be good for politics and dealsOnce you play a Tithe, its either getting blown up, or you become archenemy. This gives you less treasures but you dont get any hate and pay half. I think it might be better sometimes.
>>98483186neither of the cards in question makes tapped tokens so idk what you mean by thatone's a 2drop and the other's a 4, so I think most decks that can fit Tithe can also fit SplendorSplendor can also activate to hose a Thoracle which isn't nothing but, again I just feel like that's another example of Splendor being way more dependent on the power level of the table to go offI could see it falling to $30also Tithe is fucking $60 now holy fuck what is wrong with you people??
>>98483197Mikokoro can hose a thoracle player and costs 0 mana.You will get one treasure out of this for 3 mana if you use the force draw feature. Doing this you have already spent more than tithe.It's shit but feel free to use it. It won't get blown up because it won't net you many treasures unless you run forced draw like howling mine. Tithe will always trigger every turn at least once because players have to draw that first card.
>>98483192Reminds him of his mother
>>98483190idk what people's problem with this art is, looks like a Trans It Mage to me
So they're fucking, right?
>>98483171I don't think tolkien tropes in edgy space is more original
>>98483231Can you name other examples of this setting that predate 40k? Edgy space tolkien?
>>98482916Don't engage with poltards my friend. They're retarded.
>>98483029Because it shows that Wizards are retards who don't know or don't care what the average player wants. For all their stupid "big brained" gimmick commanders supporting stupid deck archetypes sweaty autists think are clever and all their DEI art and all their attempts to make the game some gay pay to win ponzi scheme stock market, when a Commander featuring a cute character that's also very mechanically simple but so broadly strong and affordable that it can be built multiple ways with penny cards yet still have a chance of winning the game came along, players overwhelmingly chose to play it.It's the biggest Fuck You to Wizards players have given them in a long time. It's thousands of players rejecting all of Gavin and Maro's faggot nonsense. All hail the Goth Queen, Magic's savior.
>run into a hall of famer at your lgs casual bracket2-3 night How would you react
>>98483302I would praise the high heavens because I finally get to play with someone who can track their own fucking triggers.
>>98483266she cute
>>98483266Basically this. She hits the trifecta of card design. >cat girl waifu>not ugly as hell>extremely simple yet potent gameplayI also need to update this pic due to changing a few things. Unfortunately though, WOTC will completely ignore this and continue to make hideous art and gimmicky meme cards.
>>98483266>the biggest fuck-you to wizards is using their pushed slop commander #4 from the slop funk pop setI don't even mind UB but this is some ADVANCED cope anon
The Miku secret lair is perfect for me, I am an anime coomer and also I hate deckbuilding. Yeah, I'm thinking I am going to buy it.
>>98483354i wonder if its worth slotting in coveted jewel and kitten in mine for some lil storming but then again i got pushed into hard control shell since my table wouldn't let her stick unless they're in topdeck mode so it would involve slightly bigger rework
>>98482962>>98482971Shut the Hell up and stop shilling your stupid Youtube channel.
>>98483415>i got pushed into hard control shell since my table wouldn't let her stick unless they're in topdeck mode so it would involve slightly bigger reworkThat's exactly how I play her as well. Infect with hard control lets you slap them to death every time they try to touch you. I've even gotten instant kills off due to having enough counterspells to dump on their asses.
The Bloodborne cards arrived. This is half the collection, since I couldn't fit all into one frame and don't have enough sleeves for all of them yet.
It's D-Day, gentlemen.
>>98482876Yes, that's why any creature should be eligible as commander, legendary or not
>>98482941well yeah the rules of the format as described there don't sound very fun. the fanmade domain format that's literally commander but ygo seems more interesting
>>98482904>>98482941There's Domain but I haven't tried it. It's pretty jank though from reading it
I can't believe this is $.50 on tcgplayer already.I guess nobody plays monoR.
>>98483718If you're paying 4RR for a once-per-turn extra combat, then Moraug, Fury of Akoum is usually better. Having 12 power is a steeper ask than a Landfall trigger.
>>98483718>>98483776Karlach is also a way better option since she unconditionally gives an extra combat at 5cmc.
>>9848371812 power is great and all, but he has no evasion.
>>9848317450% if I decide to use my bot army to make 1k decks with it per day on these useless websites.
what are some cards for a kudo deck?
>>98483852grand cenobite
>>98483852Hideous.
>>98483174when people realise its worse than tithe
>>98483868Dude. It BEATS thoracle.
>>98482613It's not even vaguely close.
>>98483355You're the one coping thinking it's a UB issue. If you read the post you'd understand the actual reasons. To resummarize:>cute waifu art>powerful yet flexible, doesn't lock you into a specific build>cheap to buy and lets you build cheap decks at any bracketThat's it. It is literally that simple.
>>98483718I can get more combats for less requirements.
>>98483982Her base art is kinda ugleh though. Only her full art is cute.
>>98483852Just fill it with anthems or things that give counters and 1-2 mana First Strike/Double Strike creatures.
>>98483988All her current alts are good looking. And by Magic's typical standards (pic rel) they're fucking gorgeous.
>>98483982>n-no u!Yeah that's what I thought.Your reasons are stupid if you think this is somehow a W against wotc. You're trying to justify using a slop commander from a slop set made by slop peddlers from a game where this slop cat bitch is literally held up by trans slop players and acting like you've got the moral high ground lmao.
>>98483403time for full proxied deck with this whore miku
>>98484009>You're stupid>slop slop slop slopIs this performative?
>>98483804yeah, I definitely get that Karlach is much better than the worm but like... 50 times better?50 cents versus 25 bucks. and the worm is literally a day old, I guess I'm mostly surprised by the lack of day 1 hype
lets go niggers
>>98484050already in waitroom
>>98484050Gotta wait until I get paid. Archangel of thune is like a third of the entire deck cost.
>>98484050>I wish they would print more anime girls on cards
>>98484083This isn't a monkey paw.
>>98484050Do any of you poser faggots even listen to Miku songs?
>>98484166lol no. I'm just trying to flip this quickly for some easy cash
>>98484166No. I just want the cards that are over all going to be cheaper to buy as this deck than singles, plus of need will be able to be flipped for twice as much down the line.
>>98483354God what a boring deck. I don't see a single original include in here that tells me anything about you as a deckbuilder.
>>98484183>BRO YOU DIDN'T PUT ANY QUIRK CHUNGUS DEADWEIGHT IN THE DECK
>>98484187Bugmen don't belong in commander.
>>98484183bracket 4 has been non existent at magiccon amsterdam. unless anon got a stable group the deck is unplayable in public games.>>98484187the only thing to discuss is why you play garbage such as signets and talismans instead of the full game changer fast mana package and where the hell your og duals are.
BETTER TQ: Do you have a deck you guys are actually known for?
>>98484215in here? no. in the store? yes, two.
>>98484223What decks? I just mean in general.
>>98484050When I get to checkout, will it tell me if i'll be in the initial wave or the later print to order shipment? Not sure if I can be arsed buying it a year in advance
>>98484215I was telling people at prerelease that my favorite commander is Phenax and most of them didn't know what he did and was surprised I played mill, I felt so out of touch.
>>98484235dont think so. I would guess if you are 30+ minutes in Q you'll be in next years print run from experience from the super popular drops but no guarantee
>>98484235>will it tell me if i'll be in the initial wave or the later print to order shipment?I doubt it. They were already upfront about it taking a year to print to demand so people cant be angry with that part. Its total RNG for the prequeue.
>>98484245Phenax is unc shit now. I haven't seen him in years.
>>98484215Yeah, two mostly. My mono-b punisher deck and my mono-W Avacyn deck. I always felt the Black was meaner, but more people are afraid of Avacyn.
>>98484223Post
>>98484235just cancel if you dont get the early print run.
>>98484215Yes.
>>98484215People seem to remember my decks when I pod into them even a year later, which surprises me but I am known for having a shit memory myself.I've been most-recognized for using stickers though. Not too surprising, considering. One guy way back said playing against the deck was a wake up call that his decks just weren't very good and he needed to put more effort into that aspect of the game. He's pretty pleasant to play with though he's unfortunately evolved into a CEDHfag.I guess I'm sort of known as the deckbuilding guy over there. A decent number of people show me their decks post-game and ask for my advice, so I'd like to think I'm doing something right.While I try to advise based on what's good/bad, it's also important not to dampen a player's fun when brewing. Like I'll point out x bulk rare that isn't the best that they've included, and tell them if they're running it for optimization's sake it should go. But if they like the card they should absolutely keep it.
>>98484215Azula now, used to be Oloro
>>98484215Im known as the old-border fag and pic rel in my place
>>98484285I'd play with you, but I'd assume you're a pedophile.
>>98484215If you run the same deck a lot people will start to associate it with you. There's a Xenagos guy at my store, a Sauron guy, a Prismatic Bridge guy etc. It's actually helpful because fuck remembering the names of 50 randos.
>>98484286Probably for the best--IRL shitposting is what I do
>checked out the Migu decklist everyone is baseding over>most of it isn't even Migu skinned>like 3 money cards and a bunch of dollar ratesNew cheapest printing of Finale of Devastation incoming
okay. rip my niggers. 10 tabs and all hit 1+ hour. I'm out.
This shit is gay.
Cunts. I swear to fuck if I have to wait until next year to get mine.
>>98484286>have a bunch of anime girl cards from other card games I used to play as tokens>people assume I'm some disgusting pedo weeb>I'm actually gay and just think the cards are funny to useAt this point it's too late to break kayfabe
LFG!!!!
Remember retards, it's print to demand. As long as you get it today it's guaranteed, you just might have to wait until 2027 if you don't get the first batch.
>>98484317FUCK YOU
>>98483852>>98483987>>98484008Premium art versions of cards.Now with 95% less effort put in the backgrounds.>>98484197Fuck you. These little roach niggas look fun.
If i get a first print run one I am immediately flipping it to some weeb
>>98484330>I'm going to flip a print-to-demand deck!Scalpers are so retarded holy fuck.
>>98484339New to buyfag shit? Your average anime gooner consooomer will pay 3x price to not wait 6 months.
>>98484228>>98484271a grindy bracket 2 cleric tribal deck which focuses on lifegain and graveyard recursion. currently pic related at the helm but I will switch to the esper cleric shadow lady from mystery booster because the deck really suffers from lack of evasion.a mono red bracket 3 group slug deck with lots of self mill and graveyard removal.
>>98484215people at my lgs know me for Nasheed-type Tellah, Great Sage. As well as Nethroi hulkweaver as the litmus test to race against (or alternative karador staxbears on testing to slip under) and Orvar for doing orvar things.
>>98484339A year might as well be a century in terms of how much self control people have about hobbies nowdays
>>98484339Yes but so are consumers. There WILL be idiots buying the first batch because they don't want to wait.Reminds me of that time people were buying codes for a DEMO of Super Smash Bros. 3DS because they were limited.
>>98484347I wish Zoraline didn't suck so bad.
>>98484339the leaked miku deck got sold for $2k
>at 25 mins left until my turn in the queueBROS AM I GOING TO MAKE IT I DON'T WANT TO GET FUCKED INTO WAITING UNTIL 2027
>>98484357>2ktry 10,000 USD, chucklehead.
>>98484368that sale was fake. the buyer never paid. the deck got sold for $2k
Tbh if I dont get a early one im not gonna bother. Most of the reskins are ugly
>>98484366Our epic friends on reddit said if you don't purchase within the first 30 minutes then you'll have to wait until next year.
>>98484374FUUUUUUUCK
>>98484373That's a wrong opinion.
>>98484382Miku is just empty aesthetic to shill instruments
>>984843553 mv 3/3 flying vigilance still a good stat line for a cleric.
>>98484385That has nothing to do with your post or my reply so I'm not going to touch on what you wrote.
>>98484347Do you play Battletide Alchemist in the cleric deck? That card rules.
>5 mins leftI'M IN
>>98484392I went for the other win more card in the slot
>Sold out in 20 minsBruh
>>98484386It's fine. But it's basically the only bat tribal card in existence.
This is madness.
>>98484404>will be shipped by 2030
>>98484166>secondary comes to a game>calling anyone else a posersensible chuckle
Its just the deckbox/packs/whatever thats sold out though isnt it?
>>98484413Holy shit did they have only 5 in stock or something?>>98484422Yes, but unlike the decks they're not getting a remake ever again. Prepare your anus for $500 miku mats.
>>98484413I was tempted to get this shit, then I remembered it was just extra slop accessories intended to get OCD chuds to spend even more money. Be happy with just the deck imo.
>>98484428>ultrapro quality for 100+ eurodollarsyeah I'll pass
>>98484428As if Miku sleeves and playmats don't exist in abundance already. The secret lair ones aren't that great, either.
This is going to be "Heads I win, Tails you lose" all over again, isn't it?
IT CAN'T BE SOLD OUTI WAS TOLD
lets flip
>>98484453Did it tell you the shipping time before you paid?
>>98484413I only would of gotten it if the Archangel of Thune and/or Vorinclex art was used but I was spared.
>>98484467yes
>>98484449The secret lair isn't. The ultra pro accessories are.
>We will honor every purchase made between August 10th and 11th>Oh whoops the queue was 26 hours and you missed the window. Guess you won't get it tee-hee.I should have known better than to trust JotC when they said it would be 'print to demand'.There's 0 reason they need to do this artificial scarcity bullshit, just have it be a regular storefront and put an asterisk on the product saying 'it may take a while to ship this'; hell that happens with secret lair shit that ISN'T print to demand.
>>98484471Thanks fren
Don't think I'm going to get it if I don't get first batch.
>>98484476could be a placeholder though. they said somewhere they'll notify afterwards the time of shipping.
ahh these are the best times. consoomer tears when they cannot get what they want
the queue is still over an hour.yea, this might their selling SL of all time.
>timer went up from 21 minutes to 39 minutesWhat sort of fresh hell is this?
>>98484481What the fuck it just jumped to 14 minutes.
>>98484482>171 euroswasn't it supposed to be 150? what the fuck
>>98484490BACK OF THE LINE WAGIE I NEED MY MIKU DECK
>>9848449515% increase, maybe a tariff?
What does "Expected arrival time on the website" mean anyways?For me it says " more than an hour PST". I'm too dumb for this shit.
>got a first wave oneEasiest $300 of my life
>>98484508That means you have to wait 1+ hour(s) for your turn to check out. I'm praying they printed a fuckton of the decks, like how they made a gorillion of the recent pony SLDs to the point they're still in stock.
>>98484489bots are holding up the queue
>>98484504more like it was always meant to be 170
>>98484476>>98484482>All orders placed between Monday, August 10, 2026, at 9:00 AM Pacific Time and Tuesday, August 11, 2026, at 8:59 AM Pacific Time will be fulfilled; however, only a limited quantity will be available for immediate fulfillment, and any additional orders placed during this time frame are estimated to ship in May 2027 in North America and June 2027 in the EU/UK. We will notify customers as the shipping timeline is confirmed.>>98484495Freedom Ain't free. The tree of public transit and universal healthcare gotta be litterd with the tax receipts of hardworkin citizens. Ursula VON DER LEYEN aka "U.V.L" is not my Commission President. she is a bureaucratic gommunist and probbaly Swiss as well :DD. INVOICE and VAT receipt not cash and UNDER THE TABLE ok. praise the tax office.
>>98484482They made a fuckton of this deck because they never originally planned for it to be print-to-demand, and you got bean-boozled into panicking. I'm probably fucked because I got a long ass queue time, though, but I'm glad to see my fellow anons getting their early bird copies!
>all these goyslop consumers in my generalDisappointing.
ah, there is hethe poorfagwhat a tool
>>98484511Nice! Hopefully some of your luck rubs off on me lol
>>98484535Im in the queue and dont even like miku. Fomo is getting to me
>>98484535This is the only secret lair I ever bought.
>>98484546>>98484549Stupid fucking weebs will buy anything with a cute anime girl on the cover
>>98484557but there were a lot of other secret lairs with animes and i didn't buy those
>bought it>told it'll ship 8/13>got charged on paypal>but no confirmation email beyond a paypal emailIs this normal?
>>98484573mine arrived like few min after finalizing the order, also with 13/8 date
>>98484573yeah, it'll come later
>>98484573yeah, mine says the estimated date of shipping is August 13th
>>98484579>>98484580Well it's in my account and says shipping 8/13, so I guess I'm safe for now.
>>98484544LUCK OF THE DUBS, THANK YOU >>98484511
>>98482564Yeah, I made a Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. slop pile that runs every card I dislike with as many UB printings as possible. I bring it to every bracket 3 table.
hopefully it delivers within August/September so I can resell it
>>98484601Allegedly they're rolling out this week, assuming you made it into the first batch. From the looks of it though, it's still in stock. I don't think this deck will get a shitstorm like the goblin deck.
>>98484539ah there he isthe "richfag"what a fool
>>98484612>I don't think this deck will get a shitstorm like the goblin deck.what happened?
>>98484612They mass produced the hell out of this deck, and it shows. I do not believe it was ever originally intended to be print-to-demand.
Can't believe all of those slopsluppers
etsy will have this shit in stock and for cheaper before secret lair restocks, btw
>>98484617They didn't have a "build to order" so it got bought out by scalpers instantly and was being flipped for like 500+ dollars.
>>98484617Goblin deck was a limited run, no print to order, and it was a tiny run at that. It sold out near immediately, and people proceeded to scalp it for like $600+ on ebay. The fact they acknowledged the fuck up in this deck's article seems to indicate they learned from that. It looks like they did a MASSIVE print to start, and they are taking print to order after that runs out (if it even does).Say what you want, but at least they seem to be intent on fucking scalpers going forward.
What the hell is this bullshit
>>98484617scalpers bought them all and most honest consoomers couldnt even sniff one out.
>1 minute left>EU changes to backorder
>>98484632ITS GONE TIME TO WAIT UNTIL 2027
>>98484632you got fucked
>>98484632You get it may 2027 now since you missed the first batch
>>98484630>Scalpers Excuse me. We at wotc call that the secondary market and we love them
>>98484625>>98484630>>98484639the art looks terrible.
>>98484656>hating wizard of bargeWhat are you, gay?
First the goblins now the miku deckOnce again I'm the 78th guy in line at the local gang bang
>>98484632Rip anon. And here I thought I got fucked over with a place holder august 13. Better to wait to a year then to get fleeced by some scalper. Just proxy it in the mean time.
>>98484664at least you get it this time, it just comes later
>>98482818Statistically, removing a card from the top of the deck is the same as removing it from the bottom, assuming you shuffle. Do you care what gets removed from the bottom of your deck?Unless you're heavy on tutors, milling does nothing to your game plan. In fact, it helps you, because it gives you a bit more information about what your draws will be in the future.
SCALPGODS have you boughted?
>>98484662not a fan of how adventure time looks
>everyone saying "lmao they printed a ton this time">it disappeared as fast as goblin stormYou fuckers lied to me.
Queue times dropped a bit when the backorder announcement hit. Wonder if that was the scalpers giving up.
>>98484656and thats why I liked it. art is subjective, autist-kun
>>98484632I'm so glad this keeps happening
>>98484668Yeah, at least we're not completely fucked like before.Still I feel a bit bitter about waiting in line for so long only to get put on the backorder list.
I hope everyone in the queue continues to give us a live update of their status, as if this thread is their personal Twitter feed. These posts are very high-quality and contribute a lot to the discussion of EDH.
>>98484689>I like it because you hate itthis format became a race to as annoying as possible so quick
Mine just jumped from 5 minutes to more than an hour. Fuck this faggot shit and fuck WotC
>>98484686Nah Goblin storm was gone within 25 minutes. This took an hour for backorder.
>>98484696I put my gf buy me a deck, are you telling me she's still in the queue? Fucking kek
>>98484696hey, man. it seems like you are not enjoying /edhg/ anymore. maybe leave until you change your mind? instead of doing the same
>>98484701no I like it because I like stupid art. not everything is about you, narcissist.
>>98484706Same here, somebody really needs to press these faggots into a cube.
>buying from secret lair
>>98484696>you cant handle one general being diluted for one morning about a SL commander deck.Yeah, we need some posts calling people niggers who play Y'shtola
>>98484714Sir this is /edhg/ now /paypiggie/
>>98484727>60 bucks for shitty proxies
>>98484732i love to play y'shtola!
>>98484732This but unironically.>>98484738NIGGER.
>>98484696Yeah go back to arguing about the links in the OP guys
>>98484706>>98484718Its already on backorder anyway, just walk away and get it after the fuss has died down. You have 24 hours
I bought miku but only to have cute art in my Aerith deck lifegain reanimator
>>98484745>walk away>go try again tonight>"more than an hour">miss the order window
>scalpers cancelling orders cuz it's a back orderIt's gonna print
If you get this deck Miku comes alive and kisses you and gives you a handjob. Just like Krenko did for the goblin storm deck.
Uhm, excuse me? Don't you know who I am?
>>98484756it's true I got a handjob from Krenko and then he called me a champ and we shook hands (with the other hand)
>>98484738nigger
>>98484717cope. I'm the main character
>>98484765But did you tap Krenko to create more goblins?
lol
>>98484736yes, unironically. and you should walk away from things you don't like
Scalpers are mad that they couldn't buy out the store so they're fucking with the site. My dad works for a wizard so I know.
>>98484632Good god.
>>98484737Paying for piracy is the most nonsensical concept I've ever heard of. Proxies should be free.
>>98484821What about official proxies?
>>98484825Wouldn't those be Secret Lairs?
>>98484825send trucks to WotC
>>98484821You're paying for the service of some cunt printing shit out for you. Proxies you make yourself aren't free either, you still need to pay for the card stock, printer, and ink, unless you borrow a friend's or have acess to any other free printer from something like a library.
>who should by chang proxies, it is objectively and morally correct >OMG a shitty 150 dollar SLD! Take all of my money!
Not only did I bought, I also boughted.
>>98484837Eh, at least some of the money goes to the card designers and artists and you pay for good card quality too
>>98484183The nice thing about this game is that you're not playing other people's decks, you can build your own super unique Mr. Big Brain deck with cards nobody's ever seen before! And then everyone can clap at what a cool guy you are!
There's no waitlist, I got mine like 20 minutes in
>>98484832Making your own proxies, per page is like 30 cents in materials. With 9 cards a page 3.3 cents a proxy. At least with my setupThat said, some times I'll just rather play for a proxy off Etsy or somewhere else if I like what they did just to save the massive headache that is cutting it. That's how annoying it is.
>>98484285I have a Cynette and almost tempted to build her, sadly i don't have the same powerlevel as you
>>98484696The post we needed. Let's go back to calling each other poor and pedophiles now.
>>98484856>$500Oh boy here we go.
>>98484856You DID get yor Miku deck, right? You wouldn't want to have to pay ludicrous sums to a scalper.
What is the rationale of limiting purchases for a print to demand product?
>>98484900Two reasons>printing it takes up space and time that could go to newer sets>limited = FOMO
>>98484779That's why you're walking away from the queue instead of complaining there's too many paypigs in the corral, right?
I can't wait to play with my Miku deck. Next year.
>>98484857t. guy trying to flash his esperger goodstuff sloppile to strangers on the internet
>Backorder: Estimated June 2027Meh, and with that my fomo is gone
>>98484285Do you have a whole deck with only old borders or something or do you just play a lot of old borders?
>>98484906I don't know, that sounds suspiciously jewish.>printing it takes up space and time that could go to newer setsNewer sets that are not 100% guaranteed to sell. Every print of the secret lair deck is already sold.>limited = FOMOI guess? It seems more like a 'guarantee' that the cards will be valuable on the secondary market rather than trying to entice players to buy something they were on the fence about. It seems like a pro-scalper move rather than a pro-consumer move, hence me calling it Jewish.
Did they reveal all the art for the miku deck? I've heard of people who proxy everything playing sets before they are released.
>>98484945You don't get to accuse other people of having aspergers when you base your identity around what cards you use in a corporate nerd card game. No one at the table cares, they're there to relax and have fun on their night off.
I'm gonna keep the box so I can proxy the expensive reprints
>>98484992Do people check if you have the real cards? I started making proxies of reserve list cards since nobody seems to check if you own the real cards at my lgs.
How many sets did they print for the first batch? 100?
>>98484968You're pretty much right. The reason they do it is to create a rabid consumer base. Once you zap them with "whoops sold out!" enough times, people become absolutely rabid about buying your products. >consumer sees item>they think "eh I kinda like it, but not that much">product disappears, and producer says it's never coming back>consumer has some regret>cycle repeats a few times until consumer is buck broken and will rabidly buy everything to avoid regretting missing a productIf you don't believe me, go look at reddit. There are people who literally buy multiple copies of every SLD, even if they don't like the set much, just to avoid "missing out".
>>98485007doubt it's 100 since I got mine 40 minutes after queue opened and it ships this August. I'd say 2000 at least
>>98485008Yes, I understand that but the whole point of a print-to-demand set is that it cannot sell out.Those same faggots on reddit would buy multiple copies of this deck and JotC would make a gorillion dollars while also fostering some 'goodwill'. I think the choice of limiting purchases per customer is a strange one no matter how you look at it.
The fact that Hasbro has not spent the time and money to invest in creating its own printing facilities near its biggest markets it's quite possibly one of the biggest and most retarded fumbles I've ever seen a billion dollar company make. The Pokemon company did it. Having your own printers gives you a tremendous amount of leeway and power over your product. Even if wizards of the Coast gets preferential treatment by other print companies for being such a big company, having your own printers would still Trump that. Finnegan this is a company that's pouring out it's a major IP like a street poor, so the longevity of magic the gathering it's not really something they care about.
>>98485007I got one at roughly 30 minutes in. It seems they lasted about 45 minutes, which is definitely more than the ~30 minutes goblin storm lasted.
>>98485027I'm out of the loop. I thought WOTC had the printers they use on total lock down out of fear of chink fakes figuring out their secret sauce (exact paper used, the inks, etc).
>>98485016>2000That's it?
>>98485027It's all about quarterly reports, buying or building a factory doesn't help with that goal.
>>98485036
>>98485038considering it lasted 40-50 minutes it's likely. people were given 10 minutes per sale and I doubt they let in more than a dozen poeple at a time to avoid flooding the serverit might be 2k per region since it ended first in the US
>>98485048I remember long ago how people said 3rd Ed was bad for having light inks and color variation, but this is just sad.
>>98485059>>98485048Good news for scammers. Selling counterfeits nowadays is easier than ever Or are you telling me that the green dot on the back is always perfect? Sell counterfeits of double faced cards then >The "t" in coast looks like this is a fake card, dude It's a misprint>Right, they constantly misprint everything nowadays, here's your moneyHehehehe
>>98485036No, it's about the people who run wizards being vampires. The Pokemon company almost never has supply issues. In fact they're building a brand new facility in preparation for more demand in the future. And in lulls they rent out their printing facilities to other companies. The only reason Hasbro has not done this is because Hasbro CEOs are the type that go from company to company pumping and dumping. They do not care about the longevity of IP.
>>98485036It's cheaper to just outsource printing.Therefore it's what they will always do.They could easily pay for it, and since WotC is their most profitable division by leaps and bounds they should, but can't be bothered.
>>98484934I can't wait for proxyfags to work on these faster than WotC and let me play Miku before the paypiggies. I bet you anything you probably already CAN get fakes of these that look exactly the same.
>>98485085That's a problem that I have with a Chinaman. I'm requesting certain cards and nobody cares if they aren't valuable enough. It's based on voting on cards that get requested. After enough votes from potential customers he adds it to his inventory and starts making those cards. Problem is that everyone is apparently trying to resell all those proxies and they don't vote on cards that are cheap. I don't get why he won't make cheap cards >inb4 just buy them if they're so cheap The card itself might be cheap, but I want 10 copies of it or however many and most people don't have that many and buying 1 cards ten times adds up. Shipping fees etc. And those "cheap" cards are suddenly more expensive than buying proxies in bulk.
>>98485131>The struggle is real trying to be a faggot out here bros, give me some sympathy.
>>98484978...Again, this is coming from a guy who wanted to show off a deck filled with chase prints to strangers on the internet.
>another banlist update without any commander changesWhy are they so fucking lame and boring?Unban Emrakul and Griselbrand!! Just do fun stuff and see how bad it would really be!It's so boring how they just never change anything anymore.
>>98485218gayvin said potential commander changes in a month
>>98485218What is the reason for Emrakul being banned anyway? All the other big eldrazi are allowed, and they all have annhilator and so on. Heck the newer Emrakuls also have her extra turn gimmick.
>>98485241>why is an uncounterable 15/15 that grants me an extra turn and has protection from colored spells and fucks over a player the next time it attacks banned?
>>98485241I mean it's just still way stronger than any other eldrazi and annihilator 6 arguably pushes it into automatic MLD territory, but that just means it should be restricted to bracket 4 instead of being completely banned.
>>98485218Unbans are gay. We should actually be banning more stuff, but WotC would never do that because it means they have less high-powered slop reprints to tease in sets.
Only Griselbrand and Channel should stay on the list. Unban everything else.
>>98485257Not true at all, commander is a casual game for retarded bullshit and it should never be balanced for the sake of comptroons.I'm not against bans for cards that just ruin the game like jeweled lotus, but the bar for not allowing a card in any bracket should definitely be higher than it is right now.
>>98485265are you guys hyped for the WoW set?
>>98485265Unban everything and reprint every card on the reserve list. Print on demand. How much does each card cost on the reserve list? 1 cent. There. I fixed commander.
>>98485275I am not hyped for the WoW set.
>>98485267The more I think about it, the more a bracket system is a social translator for retards. Had this gem:>3 opponents are mana screwed, I have a sol ring>i assemble a tron land without tutors after a time spiral on turn 6>despite rhystic, tutors, one ring, triuble in pairs, teferis, etc (I ironically do not have game changers) they lose on turn 11>’bracket 3s again?’>2 of the social cripples run bracket four and 1 stops a combo on turn 3, only to win on turn 4>different pod>t1 dark rit into howling mine+soul guide lantern>t2 gleaming splendor, go off in value>can easily win whenever I want, but want to let people play>table gets butthurt that I’m just ‘messing’ with themI ended up pulling a thanos mindstone from 1 pack, and a dwarven foil mox amber from a draft bundle so I was in a really good mood
>>98485254>he's worried about Annihilator 6 when my boy Ulamog can come in with Annihilator 20 fairly easilyUlaMOG that bitch.
>>98485307>can easily win whenever I want, but want to let people play>table gets butthurt that I’m just ‘messing’ with themThat actually does make you a fag.
>>98485285Congratulations, Hasbro is about to get flooded with frivolous lawsuits and have multiple threats against their executives.
>>98484934I was already planning on building a hot women deck with the miku child of alara, so I can wait until next year no problem
>>98485323MH3 Ulamog is MLD too yeah, but he is a much weaker card than OG Emrakul over all
>>98485335All I want to do is make more copies of forced fruition, feel free to win the game. I’m not going to swing my 30 trillion homunculus hordes
>>98485218>Check the update >The sloppiest of marvel slop is banned in legacy and vintage Lawl
>>98485363>Ulamog>MLDJust sacrifice all your creatures and artifacts bro.
>>98485378I mean you know that's a dishonest argument man
>>98485363Eh I dunno. Sending half their deck to the shadow realm on cast is pretty nutty.
I'm so upset that the Loki card is so expensive. I wanted to make a deck that just copied Yshtola a bunch.I dunno how your pods go but people always bitch about proxies of expensive cards when we play. It's not like I'm printing anything over a hundred bucks, I swear some of these faggots act like they work for wizards
>>98485395I mean unless it's a combo deck that heavily relies on tutoring specific pieces it doesn't really matter since you most likely won't see like 75%+ of your deck in a match anyway.
>>98485414It's probably more so that no one you're playing has any one card worth that much and proxying all the expensive, massively overpowered stuff for yourself makes your deck immediately much more powerful than everyone else's.Like proxying 4 Timewalks would be gay as fuck.
>>98485414I have 3 LGS near me, and one is strictly anti-proxy because some fatass threatened to try to get the store's WPN status revoked one time. I run basically nothing but chang's bootlegs, and I've never had an issue.
>>98485434>it's NOT like I'm printing anything over a hundred bucksWhoops, misread your post. I'll keep it up anyway.
>>98485307You are a time-wasting fag.
I made it to the confirmation screen after submitting payment, but still haven't received a confirmation email and there's nothing in order history in secret lair..WTF did it go through or not?
>>98485434I do agree that would be fucking annoying, but I use a Delney and a Smothering tithes and they really didn't care at all since they were real. We try to stay in the same bracket while playing but they complain if you up your power with proxies>>98485437Actively ruining other people's fun, I can't imagine he's a popular person at the shop
>>98485355Which contract did they sign concerning the RL? Who would sue them for that? Scratch that. Leave everything on the RL untouched. Make new cards that are all just objectively better than those cards on the RL. Done and done. Have fun suing hasbro now.Underground ocean Island swamp Tap for 2 black mana, or two for 2 blue manaMana cost 0Blacker Lotus Gives 3 colorless mana when it enters Tap for 3 colorless mana Etc.
>>98484934I will decline anyone who tries to pull that shit
>>98485513>Which contract did they sign concerning the RL?Emphasis on the "frivalous" bit. You'll see a LOT of people argue that Garfield's verbal promise and the creation of the RL is some sort of magic (heh) contract. In reality, reprinting the RL would have zero consequences besides pissing off the """investors""". I guarantee we'll see From The Vault: Forbidden Edition if Hasbro ever really hurts for money.
>>98482813Less outwardly girly so he can deny the egg allegations
Bought a pre-release box.I have some regrets, but at least I got that need to gamble out of my system for a bit.
>wanna upgrade deck to b3 cus one of the GCs is super thematic for it>if I do I'll suffer every fucking game because its a slow/grindy deck and everyone around me plays degen combo for b3Aids
>>98485549byoru looking elf
>>98485366>All I want to do is make more copies of forced fruition, feel free to win the gameThe point of a game is to try and win, if you're jerking off in the corner with your pointless combo just play solitaire. Restrictions should be put on yourself in deckbuilding, not during gameplay
>>98485048ah, the superiority of real products over proxies. truly that anon with more of daddy's money than sense had a point when he accused us of being poor.
>>984855492 copies of what will be a new white staple is pretty good though
>>98485609That anon was probably onto something if being called poor upset you to the point you need to bring it up again.
>>98485027Investing in the long term goes against maximizing quarterly profits to bump the stock up, and the top brass recieve most of their compensation through stock options. No shit they're going to focus on benefiting themselves over the company, lets alone the consumer.
>>98485617I don't see it being a staple. Its a decent enough control card, but its not worth being a staple.
>>98485549Nicr Lord of The Eagles, I was lucly to get Gandalf and stopped there.
>>98485250Now let's see that mana cost>B-But it doesn't matter!I guess Chromatic Orrery is stronger than Black Lotus then.
>>98485621no I just like arguing about proxies and I got busy at work, something you wouldnt be familiar with richfag
>>98485639it's like turn three in green and turn 5 in colorless
attention, people are up to grief edhrec by spamming sockpuppet yshtola decks just to inflate the numbers in order to make her surpass current number one
>>98485698No one plays ur dragon these days, grandpa.
>>98485698based. gato sexo
>>98485698Thank god I already knew they were bullshit and didn't matter.
>>98485698>year old UBslop taking over one of the original decade old GOATs for the number 1 spotPerfect analogy for the state of the game
>>98484297I was more interested in the Archangel of Thune reprint myself. Though it remains to be seen how much of an effect it will have on the price and its own price.
Is this a loli?
>>98485716>one of the original decade old GOATsUr is a patient one of slop (patient zero being oloro) design, I was still playing back then and seeing your commander crack 500 was an event in itself, the nature is just atempting to heal to it's esper state
>>98485671If you're working full time and you can't spend some cash on your hobbies you need a better job.
>>98485639>A card isn't good if it isn't as broken as Black LotusThis general is retarded
>>98485775I'm aware. Oloro was my first precon. Wish I still had it but I gifted all of my shit away ages ago
>>98485774That's a 40 years old vampire
>>98485789>>98485775i think what's sadder in the end is that the worry came to pass that the tool homogenized the shit out of the decks (tbf scryfall was in infancy) even when we weren't so bombarded with new cards every 1,5 month, back then going for Average Deck gave you abyssmal dogshit and nowadays it can give you something to maybe have a shot at B2 not-no-game
>>98485774Gothic lolita, sure.
I really like playing with Obeka but I'm too shit to build her right. Feels like I'm just waiting to play courts with her and that's all.
Does anyone have experience ordering from secret lair multiple times to get around the limit? Do they check payment methods or addresses?I can't find a single credible post anywhere saying they do so I assume it just works.
Did they reprint the lotr decks? Bunch of 4 deck bundles on Amazon
>>98485887there might have been some clearance because even our lgs got some alongside a case of MH3
>>98485820>tbf scryfall was in infancyShit I saw people claiming this all the way back before scryfall, when magiccards.info was THE not-gatherer site to easily search for cards. When that site (and all the old deckbuilder sites) started popping up is when people started worrying about the spirit of the format dying
>>98485896Almost tempted to snag the set if 4. I have the Frodo one upgraded but it'd be nice to have all 4 stock for game nights. Break it out like a boardgame.
>>98485910alternatively you fished mtgsalvation primers, cut the expensive stuff and filled with something close in function (or doubled up another aspect of the deck if you could). People might rag that you shouldn't just trust rec but its getting so many sample sizes that it's hard not to get into that territory for the easy synergies
>>98485887A couple of months ago they showed up at my local best buy and since then they've been trickling them, so I'm not sure if there was a reprint or just a new shipment, or someone just found a box in the back.
>>98485600>>98485469nah, stop being projecting retard cunts, I'm not interested in playing solitaire. I'm not you, who spends 15 minutes tutoring and trying to find some faggot playline. I'm just going to draw, drop some pieces and pass. If I don't get what I want, oh well. If I do get forced fruition out, neat
There's a Miku art wrath in the first batch packs. It's called Senbonzakura, it wasn't on the leaked deck because Sega insisted on adding it afterwards as a response to the leak. This is why the original batch was so small, there literally weren't enough of them. I think they also insist on changing it for the second batch? Dunno what but it's just to keep people interested. I thought you guys should know. I personally think the song fits the card well https://youtu.be/Mqps4anhz0Q
>>98485941>I'm not you, who spends 15 minutes tutoringYou cannot be complaining about other people making the game last too long while making multiple copies of forced fruition
>>98485939If its at multiple retailers im gonna say reprint. Makes srnse wotc would especially if no new deck for the hobbert
>>98485952World-shattering news if that's true.I had a hunch they'd pull some sort of surprise. It happened before with the Snapcaster Mage Miku.
>>98485952Lmao if they did that it'll be another thousand dollar Miku card
>>98485961You are the ones whining about time wasting - and probably also time wasting trying to find play lines. I'm playing the game and not sitting there like a drooling retard trying to figure out what to tutor and what 2/3 card infinite you need.
>>98485952I wish this was true. The outrage would be supreme. Half the fun of SLs is the salt of people missing them.
>>98485952if only the first batch has that and the backorder batch doesn't I'll be pissed
>>98485952If this is true, my decision to buy a miku deck purely to flip it is paying off immensely
New thread. Migrate whenever you're ready.>>98486037>>98486037
>>98484825That sounds like bullshit.>Snapcaster mage mikuWhat the fuck, never heard of that before but it's real and now I believe this shit.
>>98484215>anon's running Baral? fuck off
>>98484413was lucky to get a minute que on my end to get it and the deck. speaking of, anyone have any experience with ultra pro apex sleeves? reviews on youtube seem to be sparse
>>98486239a 7 minute*
>>98483826>12 power is great and all,Too small.
I don't play in pods where this is gonna be relevant. Price is 265ish now, think i should try and sell for 250 fast or will it creep up in price? I'd rather have a bunch of other cards instead
