Popularity Contest EditionPrevious: >>98482564>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Which commanders have been the most popular among your playgroup? What are your experiences with the most popular commanders?
Im not ready I'm scared
how did you dingleberries do in pre-release? anyone went back for 2nds yesterday? absolute garbage collation in this set. 3 out of 4 matches Friday and Sunday were mirror matches with some opponents having 2 or 3 of the same rares. what a rip off. at least I got 3 book covers in my collector
When will we be getting more Atogs....
>>98486014Despite the original idea of including extra Miku card came from sega wotc ran with it hard because everyone thinks this is the way you can combine fomo with print to demand.
>>98486037>tqvery suprisingly its mythic rare that we have a double up of a singular commander unless its new precon night and people bought the same one on the same day. Otherwise we're pretty open about what we're brewing and try not to step on other's toes. As to my experiences for the top25ish ones>catmid to good depending on the pod, they learned that if she stays on board they're likely to lose>kaaliaguy playing her took tEDH pill without having the mental for it, neither did he have mental for getting counterplayed with her in play>vivihate it>azuladon't like it since you need a whole rotation since you kinda still need mana for shit>jodahsame shit as kaalia with no mental
>ordered the precon>didn't even feel happy about ithmmm
>>98486037>TQOutside of nekusar there is zero overlap. My buddy has a wheel nekusar deck he never touches, and I have a group draw no wheels one I play regularly. One of my most fun decks.
They should have printed a commander in the new mystery booster set that gives all your artifact guys sunburst.
>>98486037>TQMy playgroup has a sort of unspoken rule that we don't build something someone else already did.
>>98486147I felt the same. I mean ght try to buy a second one and see if it helps.
>>98486037For some reason my friend group has gone through 3 Hazezon decks even though none of us felt strongly passionate about it.
who is the best big bad creature 'mander?
>>98486203Define "big"
>>98486037TQ: everything bloomburrow but bumbleflower specifically
>>98486037My LGS now has two tables dedicated to playing with custom commanders and somehow despite some of them being the most overloaded to shit designs ever, the decks are still cripplejester tier.
>>98486203It is Jarad of course. Classic Lord of Extinction nuclear bomb.
About how many extra turn cards do you think a deck based around a time theme would be cool before i start getting the stink eye from a casual b2, b3 table? I'm just getting away from pre con decks and am wanting to build pic related since I pulled her recently and her effect is really unique to me, was gonna try to make a sort of DOT deck with a bunch of enchantments and artifacts that did damage every upkeep but want to lean into her flavor with time abilities too
I miss the old tuck rule.
>>98486217You will get the stink eye after 1.And why would you need it?You swing with her and play hatred or something and then just win with big bomb upkeep triggers. You don't need to take extra turns with her.
>>98486181I think I will just end up picking it apart and collecting the miku cards in a binder, or sleeve it and keep it on a shelf without playing it beyond the natural "just got this, lets take it for a spin"..Alas, we shall see. If I end up selling it onwards I won't upcharge.
>>98486245>why would you need it?Because things like time stop are cool and she's a time wizard
>>98486241Play Pre-DH, learn to Rule 0 and get a clue.
>>98486241Yes I agree the game was way better when 5c Hermit Druid was even better because any build-around was a liability while a 5c value pile got everything it could ever want.
>>98486289Do you have any cool predh decks? I've been thinking of building one.
>>98486308nta but after looking at all the choises I just ended up rebuilding my merieke but even more generic than last time since the predh library is so much smaller to make anything coherent. you know, bunch of untappers and a couple good stuff reanimator spells because I'm in black
>>98486217It's tragic that she has a cool, unique mechanic. Because you are never getting her trigger.
>>98486400She's in blue and black, you can easily protect her. Don't be dumb.
I want an ogre wife... posting for a friend
>commander players celebrating they can finally buy a badgermole cub for cheaper
>>984860622-1 on Friday with Rakdos Goblins. 1-2 on Saturday with the white blue shit. I basically just got mana flooded every game the entire weekend. Honestly sucked. I shouldn't draw 13 out of 16 lands every game.
>>98486464Never understood how it shot up to 50 fucking dollars. Is it just elfball shenanigans?
>>98486474It was one of the most powerful cards in standard and was a four of.
>>98486477Yeah I mean I took other formats into account, but I don't keep up with standard so I don't know what's meta. So... elfball shenanigans?
>>98486489Any deck that wanted dorks wanted it.
>>98486489The big ones in standard where landfall or aura decks.
I still can't believe THIS was deemed too strong for legacy and vintage.
>>98486217I use Vorrac battlehorns to make her unblockable. Anything that makes her unlockable is honestly a must.Then you can slap some rings on her like Evos Isle, Thune, and Valkas, and just toss stuff on her to give her double strike.Personally I love using Jhoira to suspend something like Bahamut or a random eldrazi and then instantly slamming it down instantly if Obeka connects
>>9848651016 haste flying power on turn 1 is pretty strong.
>>98486510>cast four free spells>get 16 damage worth of creatures with haste
>>98486510Legacy and Vintage aren't playing with 6x the life total the game was designed around.
>>98486510You know how CEDH can play dozens of spells turn 1 and win before 3 people can do anything?Legacy and Vintage can do the same thing, with smaller decks. multiple copies of stuff and only 20 health.
>>98486510>edhtards when they cannot comprehend 16 power + haste on turn 1 being strong in 20 life formats
>>98486510>play four 0-cost artifacts pick literally any 5cent cards>four 4/4 flying/hastes immediatelyI mean, yeah.
>>98486577They also can't image the idea of actually attacking instead of just durdling for a big combo.
>8 mana>Once per turnFuck wizards. They shit up every commander I may be even slightly interested in.
>>98486584The only way to get a commander player to attack is by printing cards like azula. Doing the thing twice will trick them into using their combat phase.
>>98486062I wanted to go BG or BR but only opened boros dwarves and all my rares were white or red but none of the dwarf payoffs and only 3 equips. My deck durdled along to a 2-2 record and no prizes. Every round was against Boros dwarves decks with all the big payoffs like Dain and Fili, apart from 1 BG deck that curb stomped my with fatty wolves and spiders. I opened queen of dale but she's good but not amazing. She's Overall a valuetown engine but not particularly fun or exciting. my prerelease experience was mid and I wasn't happy having to build boros dwarf jank. Luckily I just saw the rakdos smaug is selling for $3 so I got the only card I wanted in the set besides smaug the magnificent. If that guy crashes below $15, ill buy him. Booster packs are a trap.
>>98486464>it's still $38
>>98486590You know can just play her backside. You don't have to flip her.
>>98486590You can play the flip side for 6 without playing the front first.
>>98486597and it was 50+ just earlier today. It's gonna keep going down as all the standardfags list their playset online throughout the next few days.
>>98486247Yeah I wanted one to kinda keep in a binder and one to play. I feel bad for falling into this trap but I just like Miku
>>98486510>I still can't believe (IP I HATE) is ripping up MY SACRED FORMATS!!!
>Nayana, the Angel Commander>2RGW>Flying, Vigilance 1/5>Angels you control have Lifelink>At the beginning of each end step, if you gained life this turn, create a 0/0 white Angel creature token with flying and put X +1/+1 counters on it, where X is the amount of life you gained.There I just created a top 10 edhrec Commander. Was that hard Maro, you fuck? (I know you lurk these threads faggot)
>>98486305The hell you on about?
>>98486037>tqMy group tries to avoid using the same commander. My friends tend to run really high-end EDHREC shit but they suck so I win with my jank garbage 80% of the time anyway.
>>98486510So why didn't they just leave this costing 4 mana?
>>98486667>post a beautiful angel that shows skin>irrelevant text>Was that hard Maro, you fuck?for libtards in seattle? yes. literally impossible even.
>>98486711If they were conservative they'd do it even more due to greed
I like angels and goblins a lot.
>>98486521Oh suspend cards that's a great idea, that really fits the time theme too, thanks anon
>>98486720you mean more libertarian; the conservatives were the ones that had pentagrams removed and had demons masquerade as horrors until 2002
Your Miku deck is shipping this week, right? Don't tell me you missed the first print and have to wait until next year.
Post underrated cards.
>>98486674>Misses tuck>Doesn't know about decks from when tuck was a thingLARPer alert!
>>98486711>>98486720The art director is liberal as fuck. The suits at Hasbro are nonaligned except for what gives them the most quarterly return. They're also retarded though, so they listen to Paul from marketing who says gays and women have tons of discretionary income and they can definitely be tempted by performative actions like black phyrexians and nonbinary angels.They won't be, but Paul isn't smart and neither is WoTC. Players aren't smart either though, so really it's their fault.
>>98486795Supposedly, according to the email I got but who knows when it will get here.This stupid Miku deck is causing extreme volatility in all the other Miku cards. I hope you got her Command Tower when it was $20 or so.
>>98486800What hermit are you on about?
Both goblins and angels suck as archetypes for the complete opposite reasons
>>98486062Went 2-0 in first two matches with mono black (packs cucked me out of almost every other colour aside from some blue). Got curb stomped in the final round 2-1 by someone who had the mono red Smaug and every good rare and mythic Dwarf under the sun. Collector Booster they won had fuck all in it and I got 2 of the mono red mythic Gandalf (one normal, one foil as my promo) and a Wizard’s Staff which were cards I actually wanted. Event itself was a lot of fun
>>98486795I don't get up until like 3 pm PST so no. I'm not ruining my sleep for Miku
This (You)?
>>98486821I don't agree. I have no counter points nor will I accept any credible argument to the contrary. But you are wrong.
>>98486795>just checked>now wont ship until May 2027
>>98486037>TQIf you mean by EDHREC standards, the only one I have in top 100 is Sauron the Dark Lord. If you mean by our group’s standards, no overlap whatsoever but every did like to play my Noyan-Dar deck from 2015 to last year before converting it to Lyse Hext (Noyan really got fucked by power creep in general unfortunately).
>>98486837I have no idea how it takes them that long.Preordering Japanese action figures doesn't even take that long and I assume making a plastic articulated figure is harder than INDUSTRIAL PRINTER GO BRRRRRRRR
>>98486830You should check the ones that sold. Both on ebay and on TCGPlayer.Shit's ridiculous. People really don't want to wait.
>>98486730Me too. Shame angels are kind of shit as a tribal, aesthetic speaking and thematically they're rad as fuck
>June for EurosHow does it take longer to print this shit than it does to grow a fucking baby?
>>98486842Should I buy it? I have no intention of opening it and would purely scalp it.
>>98486830It's funny, one of my local stores was selling a bunch of these Miku sleeves ages ago, there are like three of them. They were some con exclusive thing I thinkPeople really miss out on gold when they stick to this SL stuff
>>98486796
>>98486849Yeah, I really want a nice all color angel that just buffs your Angels or something simple like that.Building an Angel deck always ends up just being a theme based around my angel commander, just like any other deck
>>98486667Jeremy, Nemesis to All>U B G>3/1Rule Breaker - This creature deals commander damage in the form of x2 rad counters, where X is the commander damage that would be dealt.UnblockableWhenever a player removes one or more rad counters, exile a card from their graveyard. If that player doesn't have a creature deal combat damage to you this turn, you may shuffle their graveyard and library together. If you do, that player gets X rad counters, where X is the mana cost of the card you exiled, then double that players rad counters. full spree Return the favor ward - Return your commander to the command zone, then increase your commander tax by 2
>>98486811>SLD commander deck doesn't have command tower, sol ring, or arcane signet>the sol ring print from a prior SLD is hideousAbsolutely devilish.
>>98486733Suspend has some pretty cool cards. The suspend tutor is nice, even if you don't get it off right away it can feel like it comes in at just the right time if your plans change.Sometimes people forget about suspended creatures too which is always fun.
>>98486882wait what? It doesn't include three fucking staples that are in every commander precon? The fuck?
>>98486873Angels need a lot more than a wurbg commander with an anthem effect stapled on to make them viable. They were never well designed and now the vast majority are horribly out of date as well. Tribal as a whole is just something that needs to go. Not because it's unfun or anything, but the fags at wotc simply refuse to consistently make good tribal cards for anything that's not a Dragon/Goblin/Zombie/Merfolk.
>>98486873The best I've had is my pod letting me rule 0 this gal as my commander. It doesn't solve like any of the angel problems but it's at least something. I had hoped the new angel they're releasing with rulebreaker would do something for the tribe but when i say down to theorycraft I just can't see a decent path to take to make the deck work
>>98486882It was made by a troon who likely hasn't played Commander, let alone magic, in a decade.
>>98486896They're generic prints instead of special designs. Curiously every other major staple in the deck got a custom print EXCEPT those three. People theorized it's because they didn't want to piss off the previous SLD buyers.
>>98486908Probably has more to do with legal issues if you reprint SLD cards with the same art.
>>98486667>no drawwhy the fuck would I play this
>>98486037>TQMy group has three different faggots who built variants of the snail cascade deck and it's boring aids every time.
>>98486916What, you don't have 10+ draw cards based around life gain in a white deck already anon?
>>98486915If that's the case, why not make a new set of tower, signet, and ring made by the JP artists?>inb4 because that would make the old SLD look bad
>>98486667>No protection>Doesn't Draw a card extremely easilyThe reason catslut is so popular is because she draws cards and is in blue (the color with counterspells). If you want to dethrone her, you need to draw cards for the game simply happening and be in colors with counterspells or give the commander protection.
>>98486930>don't think much of Yshtola initially>see friend play her>mfw I realize how her "spank everyone" ability interacts with Curiosity, Sigil of Sleep, and infectWho the fuck looked at this and though it was OK?
Man people will freak when they realise late shipments don't have a extra promo card
>>98486510I'm glad it was banned. Totally deserved. Gay fuckass design mistake.>>98486532Don't even need 4 spells. It counts itself and you usually cast it after Dark Ritual. Only need two more spells.
>>98486930MR ADVERTISER GET DOOOOOOOOOWN
>>98486667>no card drawit's shit
>>98486948Unironically it's because they thought dealing damage was a nerf to life loss.
>>98486951Six thousand dollar teto llanowar elf
>>98486667Oh he does? Can you please ask him to print this for me? I would really appreciate it.
>>98486951What's the extra promo?
>>98486979Gaea's Cradle
>>98486979Battle Angels of Tyr
>>98486984This but unironically, one reserve list card in every 100 print to demand SL
>>98486959Bare asses are allowed see>>290063733>>290063413
>>98486930No one is actually playing this bitch.Waifufags are just spamming decklists to inflate her numbers.
>>98486967This actually sees a bit of play in pauper
Turok SL when
>>98487016I'm playing her.
>>98486951>extra promoI thought it only came with tiger eye cameo?
So for how much can I resell my Miku
>>98487028If she was as popular as retards who take EDHREC seriously would have you believe, everyone here would have a deck of her.We don't.
Every commander deck plays the same
>>98487043I've found that people utterly despise playing against her. She pretty much shuts everything down and slowly (or quickly, with combos) nukes everyone with infect or the usual 2 card suspects.
Id like to say as a Mill CHAD that wizards is feeding us good with that sultai crab and hobbit card
>>98487034Try checking tcgplayer and ebay sold listings
>>98487025I don't know you, but you're based. I'd buy you a beer. One of my favorite games ever.
How would you fix mono colour commanders post power creep world
>>98487081Unban non-basic hate.
>>98486972There are so many of these little dweeb cards that have super strong effects but never survive summoning sickness, at least in my pods
>>98487081You basically can't fix this even in a pre-powercreep world because of how good 5 colors is. Look at the 2011 meta>Esper wincon in command zone>Esper wincon in command zone>MonoU wincon in command zone>MonoU wincon in command zone>Izzet wincon in command zone>MonoG wincon in command zone>5c doesn't even cast its commander
>his commander is not a draw engine>his commander is not a winconwhat's the point
>>98487127Flavor. Not being a zoomy.
>>98487127Commander is a removal engine.
>>98487127Having a deck that functions when you get inevitably nuked enough that the commander tax is huge.
>>98487127>his commander is not a draw enginelegitimately makes building decks so much easier I can't hate on it. I'd rather have it in the command zone than have to dedicate like 12-15 fucking slots for card draw just to be able to draw it quick enough/reliably
>>98487081Reduce his cost to 2.Whenever he deal damage this way exile the top card of your library, you can play that until the end of your next turn.
>>98487136A lot of the times "commander gets nuked" is just another way of saying "my opponents aren't winning" and "my opponents are at card disadvantage"
>>98487136>his commander isn't a wincon from the graveyardngmi
>>98487136I'll inform CEDH they're playing commander wrong.
>>98487138Eh, I normally don't like it because it makes things too easy. I only have one "do thing, draw card" commander and at least the "do thing" I need to do is slit my wrists to get a card.
>>98487174>he thinks cedh is edh
>Zacama Combo>Cast "Temp With Discorvery">Tell everyone if any of them take this bait I will win>Everyone takes the bait>I get Carven of Souls, Sanctum of Eternity, Command Beacon and Thespians Stage>Cast Zacama>Someone tries to swords her>Cast Not of this world>Win.There is something about Tempt with Discovery, something happens when people see the card.
>>98487174>>98487177The best deck in cEDH is literally 4c draw engine in the command zone that the deck doesn't care about if it gets removed because none of the deck relies on the commander.
>>98487181>cast tempt with bunnies>no one wants the bunny>three mana for one lonely bunny and one card
>>98487185>It needs draw to get its combo>Which is why its a draw engine in the command zone>But it doesn't rely on said draw engineSure bud.
>>98487194I always take tempts.Its the wrong thing to do, but its fun.
>>98487203>Remove Tymna>They look at you funny then draw off Rhystic Study
The original Tempts, Rank them.
>>98487227tempt with discovery is insanely strong the rest are shit
>>98487227Discovery > Reflections > Immortality > Vengeance > Glory
This card is so good. People don't realize that you can just choose the same target and it ends up being a 4 for 1 at instant speed. I put it in every red deck.
I put this in an Obeka Splitter of second deck. In a 5 person game, they all took it for each of my 10 upkeeps.Then I lost to a person comboing out. It was still funny.
ivy is a silly 'mander
>>98487227Tempt With Glory is so fucking bad. Best case is you put 4 +1/+1s on all your shit for 6 mana, at sorcery speed. Then years later this gets printed.
>>98487266Not a game changer btw
>>98486510I still don't understand how they could ever think to print this for 3 fucking mana of all things instead of an obviously more rational 4.
>>98487295You want the real reason? You want the honest to god real reason? Because if it costed 4 mana then the number of fours on the card would be 5. I am not kidding, some tranny nigger thought it would be so epic and funny if "4" appeared exactly "4" times. The kicker? four appears 7 times on the card anyway.
>>98487293Do you demand that craterhoof, finale of devestation and other assorted finishers also be game changers?
>>98487302I count 8
>>98487303not him but yes
>>98487304I was only counting times the numeral "4" appears.
Any secret tech? I don't think there's any way to speed up her theft unlike cards like Gonti or Black Cat.
>>98487315
>>98487310kwab
>>98487252It's great with Obeka because you then slug the fuck out of somebody with Generous Plunderer
>>98487413>In response to you moving to combat, I use all my treasures.
>>98487303Not him but those cards don't cost 4 mana as modal instants
How do you respond?
>>98487438Deflecting Swat IRL
>>98487438I respond by playing at instant speed due to having a flash enabler.
>Ordered Miku deck on backorder>people say preorders don't charge until shipping>this shit charged me instantly for something shipping in May 2027I have half a mind to cancel
>>98487425See it's part of my 16 card intricate combo that I need to draw perfectly every time.
>>98487444>>98487440
>>98486981toski with this
>>98487025ixalan 3 X turok (Native American representation feature)
>>98487452Based and Timmypilled
>>98487448You won't cancel Miku.
>>98487452Based. Getting to do the thing is only enjoyable if it's extremely unlikely to happen.
>>98487487Bet. I have other things I could use $150 on right now
>>98487492Unless those things are other mikus you aren't going to cancel a miku.
>>98487492>Betnigger
>>98487492If you had 150 dollars you could spend on something else what were you doing spending it on teal animu cardboard you fucking idiot?
>>98487452The thing I always try my hardest to do with my Obeka deck is to use court of vantress and extravagant replication to make hundreds of copies of forced fruition, so I respect another rube goldberg player.
>>98487500Because I can easily plan for having $150 to blow on miku cards in May of next year. I had other things budgeted for this month in my entertainment/hobby budget
>QUICK! Post your first EDH General (Commander).
>>98487514
>>98487501Extravagant replication is easily my favorite card in the deck. Using it with Imprisoned in the moon, specifically the avatar one, is my favorite because I can turn everybody's board into hot make out sessions.
>>98487438I goad you
>>98487514I got her in a starter precon.
>>98487444>"Oh."fucking slays me every time
>>98487514It was... *very* bad
>>98487514If we’re counting precons, Freyalise. If not, then Karametra.
>>98486638Standard fags play arena and don't own paper cards
>>98487585>2026>still no Commander on Arena>still no paper versions of Alchemy cardsDoes WOTC hate money or something?
>>98487596We're literally getting paper versions of Alchemy cards
>>98487605>A few illegal joke cards and a single commander who should have been made in paper to begin with and had 0 alchemy only mechanics.
>>98487620Some of the paper alchemy cards in mystery 3 are playable.
>>98487444>my edit gets postedgd I love this place
>>98487620Then what the fuck do you want you autistic retard
>>98487620What the hell is the point of printing illegal cards anyway? I'm pissed the super Sliver Eldrazi guy can't actually be used.
>>98487651just ask the pod to play them? I'm playing alchemy cards and nobody ever had a problem with them as long
>>98486967great card, use it for my Squall black white knights tribal deck for both utility AND flavor (love when that happens)
>>98487651who the fuck says you can't? commander is not a sanctioned format. there is no judge to say its an illegal card. the store owner will not say "that is not a legal card". it was printed by wizards and has a normal back. people use gold bordered pro tour versions of cards in commanderI have played this in a black green blue deck and someone asked why I would do that to myself instead of playing something else (not: "thats a playlest card, you can't do that!!!!!")its the same reason why proxies/chinese reprints are fine. because it its not a sanctioned format. and really GōtC has no business regulating it as it is. they can stick to their other "original" ideas like Vanguard...
Is a deck with these types of effects just hatebears or is it called something else? Also are there any good 3+ color commanders to run this type of theme in?
vanguard was protocommander
>>98487514This nigga
>>98487814I don't know about an official name, but if you mean the final ability I tend to call that "soft stax". It doesn't actually stop you from doing things, but it punishes you for it. Maybe it qualifies as part of group-slug?
>>98487814That's more of a stax. Hatebears straight up prevents stuff from happening like this
>>98487514These hot bitches
>>98487514Built him when he first came out over a decade ago. Apparently I made a damn good choice seeing how he is still one of the most popular commanders all these years later.
>>98487840>>98487863hm, maybe I wanted a deck with cards that only do things if the opponent lets them happen>Esper Sentinel>Kambal>probably Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Studynot sure if I would want to dip into Black for Kambal and Liesa type effects
>>98487896Smart. You will get hated off the table if you bring hatebears + hard stax. It's one of the more insufferable deck types to play against
>>98487514My First and Last. She was in my very first deck, ie. ever, and that deck slowly transformed over the years into what it is now. An EDH deck where my commander is outclassed by 4 CMC creatures but costs 8. Still the best ass in magic though.
>>98487903>An EDH deck where my commander is outclassed by 4 CMC creatures but costs 8I hate, so much, how true this is. Nearly every commander that's 10-15+ years old is severely out-classed by stuff that costs half the cmc and does twice as much
I still run Mind's Eye. If you run into a Mind's Eye, odds are it's me.
>>98487908I remember when the original Ravnica was setting the curve. It seemed like a big power jump after Kamigawa. But, even just returning to Ravnica shows how far power creep had gone since the original Ravnica, and even that was over a decade ago. It's sad looking at the original Guild leaders, especially compared to their successors. >>98487866
what the fuck is going on?
>>98487814Depends on what you want for those three colors. If you add green with a heavy creature focus then Karador would be a good choice for some recursion. Anafenza is also an option as a graveyard hate card in the command zone. With blue Y'shtola and Oloro are obvious choices but you have a lot of other options like the enchantment based ones if you want to go that route. Nothing immediately comes to mind with red except maybe Ghen for some enchantment recursion. Red lets you run stuff like harsh mentor, mana barbs, and Mogis so really your choice depends on what other cards you're interested in.
>>98487770>who the fuck says you can't?you will be begging me to stop once I show you real power
>>98487930I know someone who plays it in Gisa the hellraiser, I thought there was some crime synergy but I don't see it
>>98487949soon you'll be able to buy a house with this card alone
>>98487988You couldn't buy a fucking house where I live with a god damn 1 of 1 One Ring
>>98487930Back in my day this was a staple everyone would recommend.
>>98487993The Ring doesn't hold a candle to that card though
>>98487993>The One Ring>Reprinted slopAnon...
>>98488001They reprinted a one of a kind card?
>>98488008yah
>>98487996I don't think you retards are understanding. The TWO MILLION DOLLAR CARD. Not your fucking generic version from a booster.
>>98488069you want me to go and kidnap that white rapper for it?
>>98487949>Have a full art foil version of Buster Sword and mono-white Cloud from when friends and I drafted an FF box in Jan>Have no decks to slot them inHow do people sell expensive cards? Last time I tried was when I downsized my YuGiOh collection and had 2 seperate instances of eBay buyers claiming their +$100 never arrived and getting refunded by eBay despite tracking and photos from the delivery services showing they did get them.
>buster sword is better than one ring
>>98488108cardkingdom.com
>>98488108how much is a mono white cloud mercenary foil rn?
does super serum open up more equipmentslop in eg lightpaws? imo
>>98488108If you provided tracking that says delivered ebay doesn't force you to refund.
>>98488120If you have a way to spam the board with equipment, yes absolutely
>>98488124They did in these instances back in 2021. Tried to appeal the decision and provided all the proof (tracking updates and the photos from Aus Post delivermen with the cards in the anti-tampering envelops to show they hadn’t been opened) but they still sided with the buyers. Have capped selling stuff on eBay to no more than $80 just in case (and obviously if it’s worth more I don’t sell those cards on eBay).>>98488114Stuck in AussieLand. Does CardKingdom do purchases from outside the US>>98488117Wildly fluctuates but lowest I’ve seen has been AUD $155
what was the major store retail price (msrp) of pic related when it came out? 200$?
>>98488155Cannot speak for American prices but Aussieland was about $350 per box on release. They came down a lot once Vivi got banned in standard, hype died down and people realised the set as a whole didn’t have too many relevant cards for other formats. Got mine off Amazon around Christmas for $230 dollarydoos.
>>98488153>AUD $155cool, i might buy one i found for 70$ although there's less than 10 remaining, it's the normal one but borderless and foil>>98488174shit, i might buy 2 of these boxes then next month for myself
>>98488176It could be just me but if you’re buying boxes I’d recommend drafting with friends. Dragonstorm, FF and Lorwyn Eclipsed felt like honest sets (for lack of a better word) where there are some powerful cards in the set but, one or two aside, aren’t completely broken and are fun.
>>98487138>>98487127Thinking of running a "do the thing" commander after going for ultra specific 'tap-only-on-the-first-night-of-solstice-and-also-sacrifice-permanents-with-even-mana-values-and-combined-powers-of-up-to-8.5' type dudesHow does this guy win? Just combo off of landfall or something?
>>98488187I was thinking more of buying the box to have multiple "sealed" matches with my friends at their house and then gifting them one of their choice after (or multiple), is more of a personal fun thing than anything before I once again get bored of Magic The Gardening
>>98488189Maybe each one with a 40 or 60 deck with Standard rules, but first I got to buy the box lol.
>>98488188yes chulane is a very stupid commander he's supposed to win the turn you drop him after 101 game actions
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>984860623-0 on red/white dwarves splashing blackAbsolute garbage limited set, the only reason people give it more leniency compared to spiderman is that it is a less embarrassing IP. I can corroborate the terrible collation, I was also up against a mirror match for 2 matches, and my pool was basically 2-3 of the same handful of legendary creatures (which admittedly led to a frequent amusing situation where my opponent would spend removal on one of my creatures only for me to play the same creature immediately afterward)
>>98487025Are the comics worth reading?
>>98487514I haven't really maintained him that much, sadly. Hard to justify him in the modern world of commander.
>>98488112One lets you slot in Final Attack + Phoenix, the other makes you invisible, know my pick
>>98488243I wish I could summon wraiths to my table
>>98488243I wish I could summon wraiths to my bed
>>98488243And yet, buster sword has never been banned from anything and doesn't really have a presence outside of commander.
>>98488256>Item's legacy is being so useless the entire story is about getting rid of it so it stops wasting space in the universe>Same holds true for in-game adaptations
>>98488243Kind of wish the BS also have the equipped creature First Strike as a nod to the Nibelheim Flashback part of the game where it’s the only Materia Cloud has in it.
>>98486147Same but that is because I won't get it for a year.Not the first time. I bought the coin flip deck lmao
>>98488330I will get mine later this month, get fucking shat on goyim.
>>98487050those are certainly words
>>98488188>return target creature to handbouncing is for ETB triggers. have a deck of ETB permanents, mana and untap
>>98488243do goth chicks count as wraiths?
>>98486795Somehow, I managed to pull it off, despite getting a shit queue position on all 4 of my devices. Looks like I just barely managed to squeeze in, too, because less than fifteen minutes later they were on back order.
>>98488188>How does this guy win? Just combo off of landfall or something?chulane is a bona-fide b3 deck that's really only kept in check if players adopt a "you can only infinite/alt win con on your t7+"
>>98488362she cute https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/311/street-wraith
>>98488365god I love when a normal/cute art has a fucking abomination special print
>>98488357*etb creatures*, not permanents. i mispoke
>>98488362no, they're survivors
>>98488388neat. i can actually use this in my favorite deck. thanks anon.
>>98487514Made with chaff I had in a box. It played SIlhana Starfletcher because I thought any guy that made mana must be worth playing. I like to think I have become a more competent deckbuilder since then.
>>98488388greasefang's girl friend
>>98488340Good for you?
>>98487514i can't remember for certain and i can't confirm because most of my cards are at my parents house. i'm sure i played other commanders but the first one i got to create my own deck with was probably muldrotha. i love sultai colors. but i have to say i think my most successful commander deck is the rith awakener deck with saprolings, big creatures and various "all creatures get whatever and trample" sorceriesalso wow holy shit there's a lot of really cool images of muldrotha these daysmy melek izzet paragon deck sucked. there was one time i won with it, the other time i was going to lose and i played a card that damages all players and made the game a loss for everyone
>>98488441>the other time i was going to lose and i played a card that damages all players and made the game a loss for everyoneYou won
>>98488461all players take damage simultaneously though. if i die in the process not sure that's technically a win
>>98488478But you caused it. Not anyone else.
>>98488478*took*i can't remember what it was. could have been flame rift
forgot to say, the only other time i won with the melek izzet deck was i was down to like 2 life, asspulled a sorcery that did damage to players, recast it and took one opponent out, then wracked my brain and had to be reminded that i had a gelectrode untapped and took out the remaining player who had 1 life. i was def gonna lose next turn
>>98488418The inadequate tranny freakshow fan fell into a onions and hot pocket induced coma before he could get in queue for the Miku secret lair. I bet your issue was that you couldn’t get up early enough for it, up too late the night before grooming kids on roblox.
>>98488478I have an Ognis haste tribal deck where the wincon is me amassing like 20+ treasures and dumping everything into a massive X spell, killing the entire table including myself at the same time. I deem it a win and so should you.
>>98488516
>>98488527>a draw is a winI've got the perfect commander for you then
How much should we be selling our precons for in Europe
>>98488575Same as in the US just change dollar to euro.So if it's 75 dollars it is now 75 euro.
>>98488578I need to go buy some precons in japan for 75 yen
>>98488582It doesn't work that way with yen. Only British Pound and Euro.
>>98488543Already built him, my dude. I did a Relentless Rats deck so everyone gets increasingly bigger rats, with trigger-doublers for him to hand them out quicker. I lose almost every single game but it's mad fun while it lasts
>>98488584
>>98488593I'm always serious
I abuse the fact that players are running less board wipes than ever by crafting the most disgusting hand vomit decks possible. My whole hand is on the board by the third turn at lastest and my commander is a draw engine that will continuously feed me more cards to pile on. You will have a field of four nonland permanents while I am scrapping upwards of twenty. I am a problem and I MUST be killed first.
>>98488617>I abuse the fact that players are running less board wipes than ever by crafting the most disgusting hand vomit decks possible.Good. People get what they deserve.
>>98488617supremely based
>>98488617So you are running mono green?
>>98488617reminder that a filthy casual's first instinct is to tell you to go to cedh, but then they will realize that you only 'do the thing' just like they do - only better - and they will never have any response to that realization and will just quietly seethe in the corner and think 'if you're in my pod i'll rule zero you out' with a shaking fist
>>98488617would be a shame if someone was to settle the wreckage as you swing catnon...
>>98488650>got hit by this shit 3 times at pre-releasefuck this shit.
>>98488642Little bit of mono green and little bit of eggs. If someone does have the wipe I am raped but it doesn't happen often anymore.
>>98488654it is a prime salt shaker, beforehand blowing out the guy on crathoof turn was good, now with the etb multipliers it's even saltier
>>98488655I enjoy the playstyle. I used to run animar and that also flopped if I didn't hit a draw engine and ate a wipe. What commander(s) are you running?
>>98488617how are you abusing this when I'm playing more wipes than ever? like every archetype has like 2 one sided ones to start with and now there are the 3 mana ones running around
>>98488667Mono U Krang, Meria, and Dionus
>>98488679protip: assuming you have no ability to search for your boardwipes you need 7 to mimic a 60 card deck's chances to draw their 4-of
>>98488617>run boardwipes>people begin crying about repeated wipes
>>98488712>taking crybabies seriously
>>98488388>could've made a cute goth girl the face of duskmourne>they went with dollar store Robert Smith instead The uncs at wotc are so out of touch
What caused so many old cards to skyrocket in price during this year?
>>98488780People who hate UB want to collect old shit instead. Also premodern, though that isn't relevant for necro specifically.
>>98488780>Magic players uninterested in Universes Beyond have more of their Magic budget free for older staples>Magic players brought into the game by Universes Beyond find out about older staples that go well in their decks>inflation is absolutely silly because of retarded decisionsSome combination of these
>guys I've only got one board wipe I promise
>>98488780Tourists are the Netdeckers of this generation.And guess which IA decks were popular when Ice Age was being played in 1996.
>>98488780As the population of magic players grows, best in slot/powerful staples go up in price. For whatever reason, cedh is becoming bigger and a growing % dont want to proxy and ‘bling’ their decks.Sold my foil dwarvish mox amber the moment I pulled it and he immediately sleeved it
I run zero boardwipes, because boardwipes aren't fun for the table.
>>98488780>$25 cardhuh?
>>98489065Any card worth more than free is too much for /edhg/ unless its a SLD with an anime girl one it.
>>98489045you know what's more fun? you conceding to me
>>98489065I bought a playset of NM deckmaster necropotences at 60€ each and now the cheapest you can get a NM at is 200€.
>>98489125oh right the deckmaster foil version. very based. I bought a nice condition foil Lhuorgoyf from that box for 50¢ recently. no surprise a foil old border, old printing of necro would go that high, there was some no-brainer type stuff still sitting for cheap until recently.
Unless they're asymmetrical board wipes are a waste of everyone's time. I'd rather someone get lucky and vomit their deck onto the board and we move onto the next game than people windmill slamming the reset button and dragging the game out for another 1+ hours.
>>98489294>I want to play magic, but I don't want to play more magic or I don't want to have my deck tested and see how resilient it is (because it isn't because I can't be bothered.)
Damn son they sure love their FOMO huh
>>98489334>the leeks are calling to you>the SLD has no leek references
>>98489294I mean symmetrical wipes can be useful still if you have a higher cost deck and need a bit longer to come online compared to the low to the ground ones
>>98489349>could have had a leek Arcane Signet>precon doesn't even have a SignetFUCK
>>98489349>>98489382Maybe that's what the secret bonus card will be.
>>98489419I'm pretty sure the bonus card is a tiger eye cameo reprint, unless it somehow has two bonus cards.
Why is this format so popular when it's so fucking awful? I regularily play some guy who runs nothing but high-tempo low-curve AI-curated decklists, and since he can just consistently shit out a winning board by turn 3 or 4, the games boil down to "play an even higher tempo deck, play full control or don't bother playing at all", since literally every other deck strategy falls off hard in a 1v1 environment.
One of the worst thing about the Miku secret lair is honestly the flavor text, it's incredibly cringe and reeks of an intern slapping something into an AI and making something as sanitized as possible something that could literally offend nobody. They had over 200,000 songs they could have pulled lines from and they go with some made-up cringe text.
>>98489562>Hey bro, can you calm down your decks a bit?Its that simple.
>>98489572>Secret Lair Commander Deck: Hatsune Miku was designed by Studio X's Carmen Klomparens>Carmen Klomparens
>>98489562The only reason it is popular is because you can pick your favourite guy to lead your deck. It truly is that simple.
>>98489562>i'm a real mtg player that plays 60 card>i cannot for the life of me handle a winning board by turn 4 even though that's what 60 card formats also present
>>98489498fun fact: troll-horn cameo is currently the only mtg card that mentions a fetchland in its flavor text
Will of JeremiahSorcery - 2WThe spells gains flash, split second and it's mana cost is considered paid as long as an opponent has added more than 3 mana to their mana pool in a single turn or searched their library more than once before your second turn.Each opponent gets an emblem with: "You can only add X mana to your mana pool each turn, where X is the turn number."
>>98489601I can handle them just fine, it's just that I don't want to run the same shit list over and over again, cause it's fucking boring and repetitive to have your commander experience reduced to Voltron or Esper/Grixis Control, just so you can avoid getting oneshot for unblockable/doublestrike commander damage by turn 3.I thought this was supposed to be the comfy casual format where you can get creative with your list building, in reality it's just sweaty compshittery all over again.
>>98489639you really shouldn't be playing a pvp card game, maybe animal farm is more your speed
>>98489671True, I already played enough of them to get burnt out by the godawful compshittery that always boils down to netdecking one of the 5 winning meta lists and reduce your playing experience to essentially a coin toss of who gets the better mulligan and thereby gets to win by default, which is why I got interested to give Commander a try in the first place. But I guess my expectations were a little too naive, cause now I'm in braindead NPC mode all over again, forced to repeat solving the same problems ad nauseum.
>>98489601Spoken like someone who has never played 60-card. EDH is a DECKBUILDER'S FORMAT. The second you allow meta shitters in who think they are super-extra-special for "competing" in the solved format (where seat 4's win rate goes down by more than half, lol) the game gets 100x worse.Bracket 4-5 are containment zones for the mentally ill.
>>98489724every pvp game boils down to getting the most effective tactics possible (meta) so i don't know where your soapbox is coming from, like what were you really expecting? you think poker is just some random exercise people do too?just play single player because clearly what you really want is for someone to accept every single one of your snowflake builds and have it *work* and ai is the perfect thing for that
>>98486203Purphoros Bronze Blooded. Always on the lookout for new bigass 9 cmc+ artifact creatures. I do have the Dina in your picture that ive been meaning to work on, seems fun
>>98489741>EDH is a DECKBUILDER'S FORMAT>nobody awards prizes based on the most snowflake build
>>98489671You're the kind of sweaty faggot that nobody likes to be around because you take every game way too seriously, but are simultaneously so terrible at it that you can only win when nobody is trying.
>>98489753Sorry, but you're clearly retard. I'm pretty experienced at both, Poker and Riichi Mahjong, and I can safely tell you that the "skill" in both those games comes from merely reducing being at the hand of RNG entirely by avoiding risk wherever you get to do that with your gameplay decisions. At their core, they're still games of luck first and foremost, and the trick to "getting good" is just to avoid fucking up wherever manageable.
>>98489807i'm sure you'd love to be under the gun every time in poker huh? idiot
>>98489801You're the kind of crybaby casual that nobody likes to be around with because you are so terrible at it that you can only win when everybody is trying to placate your special needs.
>>98489819I'd prefer to play comfy MTG with people who aren't hellbent on sweating over some colorful children's card game.
>>98489639the problem is we let terminally online zoomers and trannies play this game, and all they care about is their "W"s
For me, Commander is my social outlet. Mentally, I view playing Commander as a modern version of the Monopoly boardgame: a mediocre game that everyone knows the rules for, that is there is enable awkward people to socialize. I play straight precons and win-con-less group-hug because winning is besides the point for me. I don't like the experience being a spike and being the strongest deck at the table, and I also don't like piloting combo decks that try and win the same way every time. If I want to be a spike, I will play a video game version of a TCG where it is 1v1, cheating isn't possible the same way as in IRL, and I don't have to hear someone moan "c'mon man" when I counter their spell.
Playing some gay little game of show and tell sucks man.
>>98489857Then why are you playing with the same group of sweats?
>>98489857you know what's really comfy? conceding to me every single time so i get to win while you're happy to be there so everyone's happy :)
>>98489853And youre a fat gay nigger, how about that one junior?
>>98489853"Big fish small pond" energy.You get your ass beat every time you try to play a competitive format lol.
>>98489881>retired legacy and modern players that don't want to grind anymore sullying MY commander? heaven forbid!
>>98489724>muh netdecking >muh metaI will never understand how the magic community specifically has not gotten over the aggregation of information enabled by the collection of tubes that is the information superhighway of the internet. Player discussion and consensus is part of defining the meta and people being able to discuss things in a public setting with people across the world in an instant is going to lead to the natural spread and understanding of that information. You are osing because more people have a better baseline understanding of what is good and what is bad and instead of using the same publicly available information and tools to achieve that baseline you cross your arms and go "NO! I want to be the specialest little snowflake and I want my opponents to clap when I play bounce lands and call me a special boy >:(" you faggots are so obnoxious. In a just and more perfect world you would be relentlessly bullied and mocked until you improved or shut up like the people who did this same shit in the FGC 20 years ago
>>98489879ok tranny
>>98489861That's true. If I were to be that guy I could just as easily include a bunch of easily attainable combos that grant me a direct wincon in my list, but I just can't help but wonder what kind of game that would produce at the table, and it most likely wouldn't be any fun for anyone participating. If it's not fun, why bother?>>98489869It didn't start out that way, it just devolved in that direction without my consent. I'm still doing fine, I'm just not having as much fun, cause I feel forced into a corner with the direction my lists take just so I can keep competing.
>>98489893Weird choice to admit to getting filtered by modern and legacy lol
>>98489868Show and Tell is a fun card though. I love dying to my double edged sword.
>>98489893Retired legacy and modern players are the ones who treat commander as a casual format actually. It's secondaries who haven't had a taste of 60-card that go into EDH and try to make something it's not.
>>98489908>you will grind forever even in your 80s!!>...because i said so!!lmao sticks and stones but pubstomping weaklings will always be forever
>>98489905Weird choice to admit to getting filtered by thoracle lol
>>98489905Agreed. My theroey is they truly cant enjoy anything unless they get social clout for doing so, and in the broken brain of the zoomoid they think trying to win at any cost in a casual game gains them other people's respect and admiration. Just look at how that fool acts in this thread.
Would the effect of Darksteel angel negate the "enters with -1/-1" of Moonshadow?And how would blighting your own creatures work?
>>98489902The assumption that people who don't like sweats lose is a bad faith cope from sweats to deal with being shitters.The reality is that, before the era of netdecking, EDH players would often also be competitive, or at least competent, 60-card players who wanted to relax with a social format.The idea of someone treating competitive EDH with legitimacy isn't bad, but acting like every table needs to be as competitive and homogenized as possible is a sign of newfaggotry, of not understanding the point of EDH in relation to sanctioned formats and a lack of familiarity with the greater competitive scene in Magic. It's like when people try to make epic grindark lore cyberpunk fanfic oubof shit like Sonic or Pokemon in that you're treating something in a way it was never meant to be taken, wearing its face because of your familiarity and ignorance of outside entertainment.What I'm saying is that you're a gay coping autistic newfag.
>>98489905>It didn't start out that way, it just devolved in that direction without my consent.You sound like my friend that built "fair" Kinnan. Stomped the table, week ever week and is now complaining because everyone targets him and have decks on par with him.
>>98489945>It's squirrelshitterYou know, you can go one thread without being a faggot.
>>98489955You would put a counter on the creature. It would fizzle, but you still "blighted" so you get reward for blighting it.Cards that get benefits from putting counters on your creature (Auntie Ool or example) don't trigger because you didn't put any counters on anything.
>>98489956>edh is a format where you can relax!>ok then i'll just play fynn the fangbearer if you have the boardwipe i lose>nooooo not like that!!!
>>98489954>you know if there's one thing sweats want, it's admiration from casuals like me that don't know shithaha as if anyone wants your praise you think too highly of yourself
>>98489929So what is it, are you too stupid to know that Kaheera in the companion zone means Soltude, or are you too poor to afford a playset of fetches?
>>98489985Not the causals you beat, retard, but the people you brag to. You know like the thing youre doing right now.
>>98489992it's you not knowing that edh at the end of the day is a pvp game, else you would be conceding to me every single game :)
>>98489979>Fynn>DangerousSee? You talk like this because you're bad.
>>98489970But you wouldn't be able to blight as an activation or additional cost though, right? What you're saying only applies if you have to blight as a part of resolving some effect if I understand the rules correctly.
>>98490056>tell a guy that pvp games all boil down to meta strats and to stop playing mtg for his mental health>stop bragging!you casuals literally can't read and we're supposed to take you seriously? bwahahaha
>>98490058I win by stupid means that make people have a good time.You compensate for being too stupid to make it in 60 card.I am better than you.
>>98489992Just because of this post I am going to buy another fresh batch of proxy fetches. Who knows maybe I'll also get some game changers for $5. You will never know or even be able to prove anything inside double sleeves :^)
>>98490064https://desuarchive.org/tg/search/text/infect%20bad/>these are your people btw
>>98490070well you're not giving me a good time by conceding in a card game where winning and losing don't matter so by that metric alone you sucki am better than you simply because at least i can work for my fun whereas you need 3 other people to coordinate and jump through hoops to have your bullshit go through kek
>>98490068>pvp game>metaWhere do you get your perms?
>>98490085mtg is a pvp card game where people p2w by gambling on booster packs just as garfield intended
>>98490074Faggot your entire deck folds to a Darksteel Mutation, Swords, or Lightning Bolt. Any cEDH table can handle that shit.https://edhtop16.com/commander/Fynn%2C%20the%20FangbearerYou're not even good at competitive commander lol.
>>98490083>Yes, pubstomping non-competitive tables is me WORKING HARD to EARN my fun!What kind of cope is this? What are you doing?
>>98490098the fact that you immediately have a knee-jerk reaction to shit on fynn when i'm obviously being facetious proves my point that casuals can't handle infect and whine every day about it and you are autistic, concession accepted
>>98490100pubstomping non-competitive tables via taking advantage of brackets/someone's retarded rule zero is me working hard to earn my fun yes that is correct
>>98490105>You knowing I'm an idiot proves me right! Infect is GOOD even though I said I fold to boardwipes and my commander has no record in the cEDH meta!Stop beig retarded squirrelshitter.
>>98490118>you said Infect is GOOD!!citation needed
>>98490112You enjoy being a bad player?
>>98489960No, I just picked out whichever Commander looked fun, and built a bunch of decks around these. I rarely showed up with the same Deck twice. I guess I did look up some synergies on EDHrec and stuff, just to make sure my deck was competent, but I also compromised and cut corners and didn't go out of my way to put a bunch of high power staples in any of my lists when I didn't have them on hand. I did win some games, and also lucked out on some, but I don't think it's my fault that the friends I'm playing conclude that they must run some AI deckbuilding tool and upgrade after only 2 losses in a row, it's just a cycle that keeps repeating since. They do have very strong decks that push further and further towards high power/cedh, they just don't pilot them very well, and I'm not going to be the one bringing that to their attention as I don't want to come off like a piece of shit.
>>98490123>>>98490074Kill yo self
getting pussy is also a pvp game but this dude doesnt know that meta kek
>>98490138There is no coming back from this. You just fucking owned that dude epic style.
>>98490135>say that casuals hate infect, proven by archive>this retard actually thinks i'm being serious that fynn is a cedh pillarlmao you mentally disabled freak
>>98490126>get called a bad player>i get wins in exchangefairest transaction in my life, enjoy the moral high ground nigger haha
>>98490134iktf anon, because some of my friends are also those guys. they also get mad for being "targeted" when playing the latest ai-optimized version of their decks with $500 worth of cards on the board. one guy in particular has been bringing bracket 4 lists that technically fit the definition of bracket 3 while other guys bring precons.
>>98490160>I was just pretending to be retarded.Also, citation on that "say that casuals hate infect," faggot.
>>98490173>>98490074
>>98490166I'm a good player because when I go to tables matching my sweat level I still get wins.>>98490178So... no quotes. You're just coping with a strawman. Gotcha.
I love Azula btw
>>98490181I bet you do, weirdo.
>>98490166Unironically nigger behaviour.
>>98490180>he can't read archiveonce again i accept your concession you disabled freak
>>98490185but enough about proxytards
>>98490187I said your infect pile wasn't dangerous, listed a bunch of cards Fynn folds to, and cited it's piss-poor competitive record.Are you actually so butthurt you're schizoing another conversation in your head?
>>98490184I also love Toph
>>98490201and i actually agree with you that fynn is shit, but clearly you can't accept that casuals can't handle infect, most likely because you don't to give sweats like me a win right hahaha you pathetic disabled freak
>>98490205I take it you view Epstein as a martyr?
>>98490200shalom
>>98490254More of an idol
>>98490170They should honestly just calm down, Commander is a pretty swingy format in and of itself, you're not going to reach the same level of deck consistency in a singleton format with a 99 card deck as you do in regular formats. Sometimes you lose, and sometimes you can't do shit about it, cause the luck of the draw wasn't in your favor and because that's the nature of the game.Also, these AI deckbuilding tools usually shit out a list that is very one-dimensional and only works under the assumption that you can play your stuff without any interruption by other players at the table, they also don't seem to factor in responses in the form of niche cards, which can often times be absolutely devastating.
>>98490210>I conceed the point but still win because [tangent nobody was arguing]
>>98490378>took this long to reply because he knows he's retardedly wrong but he has to get the last word ini wish you were as competitive in edh as you are in a mongolian basket weaving forum kek
>>98490210You were arguing that people should use use meta decks nigger and now you're doing this whole "I really meant that that was supposed to be an example of a BAD deck!"
>>98487448I charged back on an order that I did with the Chinaman. I didn't pick express shipping because fuck paying that much for shipping and he didn't ship in 30 days. I wrote him an E-Mail after ordering and waiting for 29 days and did a chargeback with my bank.He send he my cards anyway and hoped that I would cancel my chargeback. No idea how to do that. The cards still arrived after 30 days and I didn't tell my bank and now I use a different Chinaman.Got those counterfeits for free. I travel for work and sell or trade my cards for equal "value" at a lgs that I'll never visit again.Hehehehe
Sending positive energy and vibes for my kitty waifu, let's lay the dragon, queen!
>>98487930I saw Brian Kibler running that in one of his EDH decks, and he wins all the time. Good choice.
>>98490397You're so assblasted you're desperate for any kind of win.
>>98490397unemployed hands typed this
>>98490398>some retard is saying edh is a social game where you can relax>prove that is completely dependent per pod and you are at the whim of the loudest guy on the table as everyone has their own idea of what is 'comfy', proven by people's reaction to infect>nooo you totally said infect was the best deck ever!!lol
>>98490412but i did win here and you lost bigly, so cry more disabled freak and read more carefully next time hahaha
>>98490422>>>98489753>every pvp game boils down to getting the most effective tactics possible (meta) so i don't know where your soapbox is coming from, like what were you really expecting? you think poker is just some random exercise people do too?I'm going to bake and put gay bolas in the OP just because you're an annoying faggot.
>>98490435>The reality is that, before the era of netdecking, EDH players would often also be competitive, or at least competent, 60-card players who wanted to relax with a social format.>prove it's wrong>nooo you must still be talking about infect somehow being top tier!!kek>I'm going to bake and put gay bolas in the OP just because you're an annoying faggot.knock yourself out gay bolas furry we all know it's you all along
>>98490401Unfortunate typo.New thread: >>98490462
>>98489955Is "enters with" and "put" the same thing?
>>98490449>"prove it's wrong">look inside>>It's a newfag playing against other newfags using a list he knows won't cut a competitive table, but still treating the lower tables sweatilylmao>knock yourself out gay bolas furryI'm not your boyfriend. I just know that pisses you off because you're an insecure literal faggot.
200$ is mid-range budget yeah? Ive got mostly 1-10$ cards in my deck but a few nice cards hit that 20$ range and ooh it hurts
>>98490486>still trying to get the last word in even though he already has his gay bolas fetish in the OPawww what's wrong baby boy not getting the win you desperately want? hahaha retarded disabled freak
>>98490506Your boyfriend hasn't been here in weeks.
>>98490566but (You) will be here crying about squirrels until the end of time, enjoy your mental illness
>>98490574>>>98489945
>>98490609uh oh melty
>>98490620One space away from a bingo.
>>98490638of course you'd know all about spaces given your head's full of them you disabled freak lol
>>98490649I'm pretty sure the anon you're arguing with is unironically low-functioning autism and nogames given that his argument every time you point out that a play pattern he wants is unhealthy is saying that you got filtered by it, despite the fact he himself never talks about his own gameplay experiences beyond hypotheticals where he keeps getting raped by temur decks while trying to play Tinybones (very weird obsession of his where he imagines himself surrounded by gays).
>>98490665>I'm pretty sure the anon you're arguing with is unironically low-functioning autismyeah i know, cest la vie
>>98490649>>98490665>>98490678redditfugees get out
>>98490649You have autism and every conversation at the end of these threads turns the same because of it.
>>98490692actually it's you who has autism, proven by the fact you think my day will be ruined by gay bolas while at the same time insisting i'm some squirrelfag and that you're mindbroken every day by the toski ritualpost lmao
>>98490665Congrats on remembering to use caps when sucking yourself off.
>>98490705>you're mindbroken every day by the toski ritualpostNice self-tell.
>>98490718>Nice self-tell.>>98489962
>>98490708You know anon, it's possible more than one person in the thread finds you retarded given that you are, in fact, retarded.
>>98490723You have an obsession with ~five cards you autistic freak.
>>98490733Weird how you never apply this logic when you mald about your boogeymen squirrelshitter.
>>98490737>>98490742trying to co-opt my branding for you are we?you really are a pathetic disabled freak aren't you arguing so profusely in a basket weaving forum while at the same time pontificating that children's card games are beyond being sweat on? hahaha
>>98490742Why do you refer to yourself in third person? It's weird.
07652/10
>>98490773Why do you type like someone who wants bottom surgery?
>>98490765Bro why are you typing and argueing like some underage faggot?
>>98489045I like it because I always have the spell to make it one sided
>>98489294aggro hands typed this post (derogatory)
>>98490705wouldn't you need to be here for each toskipost to say that?
AYO SMAUG
>>98489956>The assumption that people who don't like sweats lose is a bad faith cope from sweats to deal with being shittersIf you weren't losing you wouldn't be complaining other players "sweating" you disingenuous fag. If people were trying harder than you and still losing why would you care? You would be bragging that you're better than those dirty "netdeckers" not complaining that they're sullying the sanctity of your table with their horrible meta. >but acting like every table needs to be as competitive and homogenized as possible is a sign of newfaggotryI see this retarded take constantly. Who TF is bringing rogsi or tymnathras to your tables exactly? Who is saying that we have to run the ultimate best deck constantly? People going "hmm I want to build that commander I should look up what people are putting in it and compare with my bulk and binders" is normal. People wanting to have consistent decks that are fun to pilot is normal. You can have fun at the retard table with the helmetheads and durdle in your 40 turn game while the rest of play a few games
>>98490807is that why you can't let go that you totally misread my infect comment and everyone's laughing at you and you are totally trying your damnest to save face? lol
>>98491023Never lost to a sweat, they're usually fat, retarded, and can't compute off-meta cards
>>984904911 card is already worth 210$ in my deck lol what does this means
>>98491084post list sweatlord
>>98491089I don't even need to see a sweatshitter's list, I already know what he got by looking at his niggermander, and what cards I need to sidedeck to ruin his day
>>98491089Do sweats even have individual lists for themselves? I thought they were compelled to just use whatever best deck list they found online.
>>98491056>You misreadYou tried to backpedal when you got called out for being a scrub. >>98490435lmao
>>98491023>If you weren't losing you wouldn't be complainingWrong, and proving me right.I can beat sweats easily by playing a semi-competent control deck. However, I don't want every game to be a reactive mess. The homogenized play of having to deal with sweats makes the game less enjoyable because there's less variance.I'm not reading past that sentence btw because it's so retarded.
>>98491476>the disabled freak is trying to get a word in againsorry i don't take people with disabilities seriously, much less illiterate ones that can't handle winning in a children's card game lol
>>98491495t.
>>98491506'i'm a total chud unlike you', says the guy who posted gay bolas HAHAHAHA
>>98491523big mad
>>98491547>yeah i'm an autistic furry so what you're big mad at my disabilities!lmao
>>98491576A shitpost mundbroke you.
>>98491584>mundbroke>he's big mad over squirrels btwyeah you tell me lol
>>98491601t. admitted to being the divorced squirrelnigger earlier.
>>98491616let's be honest anyone that just happens to argue against you is a squirrelfag in your autistic illiterate mind
>>98489639Talk to him then you autist
>>98491659No, just (you). >>98490705.Kill yourself autismo.
>>98491701hahaha autistic people have shorter lifespan so you first you mentally disabled freak
>>98491715>hahaha autistic people have shorter lifespanmeltdown moment
>>98491720>meltdown moment
>>98491737>t. slowly shrinking and transforming into a corncob
>>98491776>if i say random words now maybe he'll give me the win!hahaha remember that i'll always be pubstomping retards like you in a children's card game
>>98491783>I'm not mad! I'm not mad! Please don't put it in the paper that I'm mad
>>98491855>I'm not mad! I'm not mad! Please don't put it in the paper that I'm madbut do please point at the doll where the anon hurt you in a basket weaving forum about a children's card game
Would you two homos find a Discord room and make out already? Jesus Christ talk about fucking cardboard already. Tell me why I'm retarded for running Worn Powerstone with a 5 CMC commander, tell me why 30 life would be better than 40 even though 50 was the traditional start for 4 player EDH, fucking anything but this outright homo shit.
>>98491985>Tell me why I'm retarded for running Worn Powerstone with a 5 CMC commanderno you're not>tell me why 30 life would be better than 40 even though 50 was the traditional start for 4 player EDH30 life ritualposter is a meme and should be treated as such
Y'shtola #1 commander of all timeFantasticar just got done deep dicking multiple formatsUB chads continue to run this shit
>>98493516*of the past 2 years according to netdecks, the vast majority of which never ever see play
>>98493570**cope
>>98493606I really don't care. All the top commanders are shit, UB or otherwise. I'm just stating facts.
>>98491985White should have a Fleshbag maruder in it's color identity. White is the color about rule setting in a way that is beneficial to it, keeping things "fair" and having dudes."Symmetrical" removal like this should be more widespread in it's colors. Something being "Fair" feeling doesn't mean it shouldn't be powerful or abusable.
>>98493845Agreed.Also black and white should both get more conditional counterspells.
>>98493903Black counter spells should be fine if they're creature locked. Functionally just a "faster" Kill spell or a slower thoughtseize that cost your opponent mana. I'm a little apprehensive about it because Black already has everything but you could get away with it if you're careful.White HAS been getting pretty nice conditional counterspells for a while now, I guess we could see more interesting ones though like "Counter target spell unless they sac a creature/skip their combat step this turn" or shit like that.
>>98493903>>98494044Make it tap to activate and remove the green condition. Maybe make it "non-artifact" if you really want to make it thematic.
>>98494044That's pretty much in line with all my thoughts about it.The only thing I have to say otherwise is I'd like some black counters that aren't limited to creatures but have a cost. Like needing to sacrifice swamps to cast, or something like dash hopes.XBAs an additional cost to cast this spell pay X life.Counter target spell unless its controller pays X life.
>>98494061Repeatable counters are bad design. The big downside to counter spells and efficient removal is that they're single use so you can run out of interaction if you use it like a moron, and so that from a deck building perspective, you have to play X amount of cards to do it for you, taking up slots that threats would present which slows you down and makes your deck less consistent at producing those threats.A black counter should probably read something like this, counters a spell with an additional downside like discarding a card, paying life or sacrificing a non-token thing. The draw backs scaling up as the target access gets better. A universal black counter would probably have to be outright discard a card for a hard counter.>>98494176I do like the flavor of just "killing" the spell as it's being cast, like shooting a gun barrel as it's being fired. Very flavorful take on countermagic that I want to see. I can definitely see a world where stuff like this get printed in a few years from now. I can also see something like1BBAs an additional cost to cast [name], discard a cardExile target spell or creature.it's super pushed and out there, but in a world where Badgermole cub and the like are printed It's something I'd definitely get excited about.
>>98494208In my mind black is the tertiary color for counters, so it shouldn't be too pushed.But I am a big fan of things that most people would think of as color bends or breaks but are flavorful, and think that's a good place for black counterspells. There are just so many interesting ways you could add a cost, for either player, that the lack of cards in this design space constantly lives rent free in my mind.
