They Actually Banned Cards Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-august-10-2026>NewsThe Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>98476661>TQThoughts on the B&R?
>>98489326Good for Standard if the format were still like pic related. Those bans lead the format to become the most egregious pile of greedy shit and cheats we have seen. In few months they will have to do a new batch to fix the shit but will be to late because surely new op garbage will be printed soon.
>>98489622Midge set likely will have 0 (zero) impact on Standard, same with Star ShitRF is likely the only set that will have actual cards in it that aren't either draft chaff or cummander bait
>>98489326Pauper no changes is sad.They should've unbanned...Actually, no, I dont think k any of the currently banned cards are unbanable.Common pauper W.
>TQFrom what I've seen, for Standard at least, people have been saying Tablet control decks are going to be big because they were least impacted by the bans. Before the bans even happened I was working on a grindy Goblins deck because of all the cool cards were spoiled in The Hobbit. If Tablet-powered Jeskai decks are going to be everywhere then this deck might actually be pretty good. Would appreciate comments/criticism because I haven't played Standard in forever.Creatures - 274 Bile-Vial Boggart4 Mudbutton Cursetosser3 Scuzzback Scrounger4 Searslicer Goblin4 Boggart Cursecrafter4 Bolg's Company4 The Great GoblinStuff - 93 Burst Lightning1 Grub's Command1 Along the Crooked Way4 Boggart MischiefLands - 244 Cavern of Souls2 Eclipsed Realms4 Blazemire Verge4 Blood Crypt5 Mountain5 SwampSB would be stuff like Hexing Squlcher, Duress, Sear, more Grub's Command, etc. Not really sure what to play since the meta is still up in the air with bans + Hobbit. I wonder if I should play more Scuzzback and focus on the synergy between Command + Way. Unbury also looks pretty good too as it Amasses Goblins with Way as well. Not sure with what way to go because there are quite a few good Goblins not even in this list. Maybe even one more way because giving a bunch of dorks menace is quite strong.
>>98490107I think you are gay
>>98490107fag listfag poster
Lorwyn Eclipsed was fucking ASS. I hate all the redesigns they did for merrow, boggarts and flamekin.
>>98491363the only reason they do return sets anymore is so they can reshape their past "mistakes" to fit their present culture. everything is about rewriting the past to control the present.
>>98491363I'm not sure I see the problem.
>>98491436All merrows became bald without in lore reasons.
Please white sars play premodern
>>98491436They just look more sanitized and cutesy. The texture is all wrong.
Wish I was a billionaire so I could buy MTG and, among other things, make the art direction go back to the older style. I wouldn't fire nosewater. I'd just lower his pay and make him my bitch to undo all the homogay shit he's done.
>>98491549He's not an art director. Unless you are talking about companions.
the set just came out on arena today and I matched against a dude playing goblins in pioneerhe assembled pic related + some goblin fodder and then he started killing me out of nowhere, he would sac a goblin to make mana, deal 2 and exile the top card of his deck, which more likely than not happened to be another cheap goblindon't think this is overpowered or anything but I was really surprised by it, I might have misjudged HOB a bit
>>98491796Rosewater is the head of mtg. He's above the art directors. Everything is downstream form him. And it's more about humiliating rosewater. He needs the paycheck and is a company man so he'll shill anything he's told to. He might be such a cuck he wouldn't even care, and happily reverse direction on anything, not even feeling humiliated. Which would be somehow even more amusing. Just a little goblin.
>TQFor Legacy, not good. Getting UB garbage out of the format was the minimum they needed to do but Barrowgoyf and Tamiyo still need to be dealt with. Informer, Candelabra and Entomb need to be unbanned.
>>98490107It seems nice:)
>>98490107hello beautiful :)
It's funny, I watched professors commander that's about 7 year old, in it he called this what's his name completely evil and unfun design. Que 2026 lmao, holy hell have things changed
>>98491549You would probably get shot desu.
>>98492114FIVE PERCENT OF MY LIFE?AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHELDON SAVE MEEEEE
>>98492114Kamigawa's goblins are cool.
>>98492125Leftists gonna leftist. I ain't scared.
>>98492232kek you think they're the ones who would shoot you
>>9849213125% since it's often a fetchland. 5 total life for playing and cracking a fetchland.
>>98492239Obviously. Leftist commie retards are the useful idiots.
>>98492266maybe my life wouldn't be so shit if i was half as based and redpilled as you
>>98492276Probably.
Realistically, how many years of UB sets bombing would be needed for WOTC to abandon, or even just reduce them?
>>98492568>RealisticallyI think a decade of bombs with zero hits would do the trick
>>98489326>TQThe meta will settle into something just as cancerous.
>>9849256810 or 12 in a row, and they would still make UB set after that
>>98492568UB will never bomb, if UB bombs it means magic bombs
well I just came back from a hobbit, 2 headed dragon event, and can confirm the set is completete ass, at least we did fairly well and won 4 boosters each
>>98492657how is your retail fire mage going bro
I wish I had irl 6 or 7 friends to play cube with. Most of the people you meet at MTG events are turbo commies.>>98492657Thank you for not being afraid of the real world. We can’t let the libs dominate all social spaces.
I have been playing Arena all day and confirm, set is just a Cummander bait with almost 0 interesting cards for actual constructed Magic.
>>98489326>TQbased UB bans. I spit on badgermole and grans grans graves.>>98492568>>98492580>>98492591>>98492603I have a conspiracy theory that the IP holders pay WOTC to put their stuff on cards. Think about it. Many companies spend tons of money on advertisements. Magic cards are like tiny little billboards advertising Marvel or whatever. Magic is a bigger thing than Marvel now. It doesn’t make sense for WOTC to pay Marvel 10 million dollars to make a set that no one thinks is cool. This explains why they keep making UB despite it being wildly unpopular.Is there anything financial data or anything that disproves this?
>>98489326I member when bans in standard were rare
>>98492873Remember when standard had a card pool of roughly 1400 cards and not almost 5000?
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>>98492996I NEED A GOOD PROXY VENFDOR I NEEF TO CUM ON FOILED WITCHES
>>98492729I think they share the profits. So when TMNT and spiderman underperformed WoTC didn't lose as much. It is ads though yes. I rewatched TLA (pirated) and played a few classic FF games (on my chinkheld).
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>>98492729>I have a conspiracy theory that the IP holders pay WOTC to put their stuff on cards.I was approached by Magic years ago for a Secret Lair collab. It was a shock and surprise because the stuff they wanted to make cards from was a terrible fit for Magic, but I was at least down to have a zoom meeting to discuss it.The meeting was essentially "We're big fans of your work, do you think your stuff on Magic cards would be cool idk."Talking with these people, I was hit by the sense that these people had no idea what they were doing and were more interested in their own hobbies and what they liked, without really thinking far beyond that. We continued to exchange emails for a bit, but neither of us were particularly motivated towards any collab so nothing came of it. Long story short, I don't think there's anything more nefarious going on behind the scenes other than people being in charge of Magic who are much more in their own heads than they should be. I'd call it an abuse of power, but I'm pretty sure most people in their position would not be thinking "What can I do to ensure the longevity of this sacred game and keep its notoriously troglodyte fanboys appeased?" and more "what shit that I like can I get them to make magic cards of before I get fired.">Magic is a bigger thing than Marvel now.Marvel Comics? Maybe, but Marvel Studios is a media juggernaut that still can attract A-listers and hundreds of millions of dollars in investors.>This explains why they keep making UB despite it being wildly unpopular.Some of the sets sold very well. Final Fantasy in particular was huge.
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>>98493178I'm convinced someone at WoTC is a Miku fan. Probably the head of Secret Lair given how much they push it.>a terrible fit for MagicWe've had spiderman and marvel. We're well and truly beyond that.
>>98491929>Rosewater is the head of mtg. He's above the art directors. Everything is downstream form him.You know he's not even the president of R&D, right?>He needs the paycheckHe's pushing retirement age.
>>98493514True, I'd also need to shit on Bill Rose's lawn.
I think Bilbo's Gambit might be a good card.
>>98492729>I have a conspiracy theory that the IP holders pay WOTC to put their stuff on cards.This is 100% the case for some of them. Capcom for example is absolutely paying to put Street Fighter in any game that does crossovers.
>>98493296>We've had spiderman and marvel. We're well and truly beyond that.I was approached years ago though, well before even Neon Kamigawa. Back then, even going a little too far into sci-fi felt weird.
fin was good because there were meat beaters in that set
>>98491363>merrowI liked the white flying ones
>>98493296I'm sure Miku is their best selling secret lair. She's a world wide sensation being the most popular Vocaloid surpassing even english vocaloids and her newest Secret Lair is print to demand.
>>98494434I know I ordered it. Love me some anime girl cards even though I've listened to maybe only one or two of her songs. I just want attractive women on cards again. Not whatever the fuck this is.
>>98494534It's kind of impressive just how much pretty anime girls add value to cards.
This has probably been asked before, but think we'll ever get a proper MTG vidya where we get to see the creatures from the cards come to life and beat the tar out of each other like in Yugioh instead of just a VTT with a few sparkly effects?
>>98494586Considering how fast AI has leapt in just the last 3 years, something like that is already possible, but you'd need insanely powerful computers to get video generation in anything even close to real-time, and there would be endless hallucinations.In twenty years, it should be much easier and faster and more reliable, but by then we'll all be dead or enslaved so it won't matter.
>>98494577>most expensive Smothering Tithes print by orders of magnitude is the confettifoil anime one>followed by the Mister Crabs SLD print>nonfoil anime print is a mere third the price of Mister CrabsAnime foil > Spongebob > anime nonfoil
>>98494586I don't want to see Captain Janeway come to life to punch Ezio Auditore in the sternum. I don't think a game like that should exist.
>>98494577Turns out tranime fans are the biggest whales of all, and aren't concerned about quality as long as something is Japanese. This makes them ideal consoomers.
>>98492683Mengucci mentioned in one of his streams that a couple cards where interesting for pauper and one of them may be even play in modern. But I don’t recall him saying which ones. Honestly, I don’t expect that the set makes more impact than that in 60 card constructed
>>98494687>Captain Janeway>Equipped with the skateboard, buster sword, and a chainsaw>Chopping up a bunch of marvel super heroesWhat the fuck even is mtg at this point?
>>98492568ubs have to bomb and also not inflate the sales of regular sets
>>98494732They need to make a removal spell that gives the opponents balloon tokenswe're already like 99% of the way to mtg being deviantart the game might as well seal the deal
>>98494434>we know that print to demand is untenable because when we pretended to do print to demand despite not actually doing print to demand it was untenable.Did I read that right? Are they that retarded? Or is just MaRo bullshiting an excuse to not say they don't care about the majority of their customers and monetizing the fear of missing out and catering to scalpers is just more profitable.
>>98494687It already exists, it's called fortnite.
>>98492958Jeez I didn't realize it had gotten that bad
>>98495005Right now standard card pool would be the extended card pool if the format still existed.
>>98494802>Or is just MaRo bullshiting an excuse
>>98491549>If I wasn't a cucked, loser, sissy, Timmy I'd do things!!1Lol, neg test
sorry guys this is my fault I started playing in 2017 so they decided to fuck things up
>>9849516930% of all cards ever made are in that window.
>>98494409Speaking of this lady. She's a damn fine card in my cube. I drafted White Green and she gave Jumbo Cactuar Lifelink then it attacked. Needless to say I ended up winning.
>listen to random video about magic cards>"This card is a centipede ...">look at card type line>there's no centipede
>>98495155Damn this shitskin got triggered.
Green is way more of a degenerate color than blue if we are being honest.
We have an actual legendary creature cards in Standard? I want a good laugh
>>98495481keep coping blue fag, I rather get ramped on and then trampled to death 1000x times, than play against blue and die to a 1/1 flier while all my spells get counterd or bounced
Speaking of weird shit, has there ever been a viable Gruul control deck? Not combo, pure control
>>98495504You have 10 decks named gruul control on MTG top 8 and when you look at the lists most they aren't really control decks the more controlish one are ramp decks, then you have a bunch of midrange deck and the block one is a straight up aggro deck.
>>98495504When I started playing modern in 2018 there was a RG ponza deck that played Arbor Elf/Utopia sprawl for a T2 stone rain/blood moon.
>>98495691Ponza isnt control its midrange
>>98495817Why not? It played boardwipes
>>98491896Seems cool, a pal in my local pioneer group likes running goblins, might direct his attention towards this
>>98495833Lots of midrange plays boardwipes dingdong. Old gruul was llanowar into stone rain/molten rain and zozu the punisher with burn and beatsticks. Thats not control. And stuff like viridian shaman to take out artifacts and enchantments.
Should I start playing Standard again? I migrated to Competitive Brawl and and feeling pretty comfortable just playing that. I am on the fence about trying Standard again. I want to be certain that Standard is fun again before I commit my wildcards on a new deck.
Standard is garbage.
>>98495635I was talking with a friend and we realized that most colours have been able to do kind of everything, and I could only come up with Gruul control as something that I was pretty sure had never been done beforeSo it feels good to be right
>>98495947based and being right pilled
>>98495907Yeah but I'm not talking about that version, I'm talking about the version that plays like a prison deck that was around ~2019
>>98495947Mono red and mono green control have both been done thoughbeit
>>98495988But it's never been done with ONLY both of them at the same time thougheverbeitFor comparison, Jund Control has 200ish decks and Naya Control has 66
>>98496041This is mostly because of your "no combos" stipulation, plenty of RG control decks exist they just also run combos like channel/fireball, breach, tron, etc.
>>98496086I only want the true ballbusting control experience, I know there's plenty of RG combos otherwise
>>98495984Wheres the list? What makes you think its control besides board wipes? Im not sure what you mean.
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>TQI don't play standard but I hope this helps getting cub banned in pioneer too, it's annoying how it goes into virtually every green deckfantasticar getting the boot in legacy is great, I can now go back to playing storm because there was no way I was going to spend money on a card that's clearly getting banned, it's also a great restriction in vintage but I have a feeling that this won't do enough to stop raker shops from being the deck to beat
>>98496653I don't know i think Pioneer has more answers against Cub and Greasefang barely cares about it, same with Izzet. But I agree with you that is obnoxious as fuck What i really find baffling is considering the degenerate stuff they allow to exist... Why not some unbans? Are Felidar, Ballista, Kethis or pic related worse than Greasefang, Cub or Vivi?
>>98496690>I don't know i think Pioneer has more answers against Cub and Greasefang barely cares about it, same with Izzet. But I agree with you that is obnoxious as fuckmy problem is that you can't play green without it and it's too expensive for me to afford it, if they're not going to ban it, I want them to at least make it cheaper but it's way too early for a reprint
>>98496710>reprint>UB setAnon-kun........
Isn't it kinda good that dual lands are on the reserved list? Means they've had to get creative with land design over the years, no?
>>98496690jeghanta did nothing wrong, change my mind. protip; you can't
>>98496858it is good because duals without downside are fucking retardedly strong, if you would reprint them you could flush shocklands down the toilet for 99% of decks would just replace them
>>98497030Yeah that was my pointFetchlands and a couple of utility lands would be the only ones that actually get any use
>>98489326>They Actually Banned CardsToo little, too late.Fuck this dead ass game. Them leaving Standard to rot for years straight has shown everyone they care more about money than game health.
So do you chuds know what is and is not a mana ability now?
>Listen to someone say their deck can "consistently" reanimate Sire of Seven Deaths on turn 3 and will be meta after the recent bans>Their combo takes 3 colors and 4 specific cards>Deck runs no interaction so their whole deck dies to removal
>>98497306No (draw on same effect)Yes (doesn't target)No (draw on same effect)Yes (draw on different effect)
>>98497430Wrong.
>>98497453Provide solution key with rationale.
>>98497458Naaa, you were right on 3 out of 4. Figure out yourself how Astrolabe is a mana ability.
>>98497469It doesn't move a card from library on resolution and the draw is on a delayed trigger. That's my guess.
>>98497422Lol. You can already t3 omniscience in standard and its unplayable
>>98497306Sphere is not a mana ability. The rest are. It must target or use your library as part of the resolution to not be a mana ability. Astro draws later and star is a separate line not related to the mana ability.
>>98497422these sound like 90% of my combo deck in modern......
>>98497473Not him, but I think you're right. The ability itself doesn't move the card it creates a delayed triggered ability .
>>98496710standard ban should make it cheaper since nobody plays pioneer
>>98497552Correct anon.
Why are The Hobbit boxes selling for double MSRP?I'll have to start entering events to try to win some at this rate.
>>98497519I trust you're right, but out of curiosity how do you t3 omniscience in standard and why is it unplayable?
>>98497790T1: play a planet tapT2: land + Llanowar elvesT3: land+ play Kona, Rescue Beastie, use it to station the planet and cheat Omniscience into play.So to do it on turn 3 you already need 4 cards and you lose on any kind of removal. And even with omniscience on the field you don't win on the spot since you need a North Wind Avatar to start the loop that allows you to win the game.
>>98497905>>98497790because you just have to remove the creature and if someone puts down an evendo turn 1 you know whats upbeen trying this shit in modern with emmara and intruder alert, infinit tokens turn 3 sound nice but are too slow and not gonna happen
>>98497422You can already do it on t4 with just Kavaero or whatever the fuck his name is, and it's 2 colours and only needs 2 cards, all the while you're free to pack as much disruption as you wantAnd it's shit outside of Arena Bo1
>>98494802What he is actually saying is closer to:>1) We know that print to demand is untenable (reason not given but presumably has something to do with how far ahead products are printed)>2) Because we knew that 'print to demand' wasn't tenable, a lot of the time we claimed we were doing 'print to demand' we weren't actually.>3) This method was also wildly not profitable and we had to destroy lots of product.Of the three points I believe that only 2 is almost certainly true. The profit margins on Secret Lair are probably high enough (~30 USD for 3-6 cards + packaging at the beginning) that you are making significant profit even when destroying ~75% of what is made.I also don't believe that P2D is actually untenable but I could definitely believe that it would work like a kickstarter where a product was announced and mockups were given but the actual product wouldn't ship until a year or so later.MaRo is a lying kike though and everything in that post is trying to save face. He even admits that 'print to demand' was a lie back in the day and wants you to thank him for it because he frames it like an act of generosity "we were actually destroying a bunch of product and losing money goy. All because we wanted to make sure all players definitely got what they ordered in a timely fashion. That makes us lying to your face a good thing actually!"
>>98498126>magic will get monk class before hearthstonelmaooooooooooo
>>98498152Unless the WoW set is the first UB set of 2027, I don't think so, Blizzard has given every indication possible that Monk is coming to Hearthstone next year, it's definitely going to become official at Blizzcon next month.
>>9849819512 classes seems too much for a card game... And more to come considering WoW rumors
>>98498195When will they even announce those UB sets?
My research into African mythology for the future Wakanda set.Belief in reincarnation.The magic staff is called a Ofo.Ancestors live in the spirit world where they gain god powers.Each person has a Chi a guardian spirit.Key Gods:Ala: Central Goddess. The earth herself including all life giving elements such as water and punishes lawbreakers. The dead are stored in her womb. Royal pythons are sacred to her.Amadioha: A lighting and thunder god of justice. Kilsl lawbreakers with lightning strikes. Created humans by striking a cotton tree.Agwu Nsi: A god of fate and creativity.Njoku Ji: Yam and fire deity.Ikenga: Horned god of time and personal achievement. The idol consists of the worshipper's own Chi, ancestors, right hand and power. When a man dies the idol must be broken in two, one half buried with him the other destroyed.Ekwensu: A war god. Called during wartime to incite anger violence but must be banished during peace times.Ogbunabali: Death god. Usually kills criminals.Elements are divided into males(Air and fire) and females (Earth and water).
>>98498408pls stop.....
>>98498292It'd be less if they divided it by 3 and 4.
I played Magic a lot as a kid and loved it, stopped in like 2002/3/4 after Slivers were reintroduced. I actually want to get back into it, what packs should I be buying? From what I remember when I played, there were different formats and the most popular one at the local places only allowed the last 2-4 expansions or something like that.
>>98498517Not only don't. But never buy packs, just single.
>>98498517>what packs should I be buyingNone. You pick a deck you want to play and buy singles.
>>98498611>>98498610Okay thanksIf I want to keep playing Slivers (they're so cool) are those new enough that I could walk into most hobby stores and start a game with someone? I just checked and they don't seem like they've been included in new releases in years.
>>98498615No slivers are gay and you should go to \edh\ and make a sliver commander faggot deck
>>98498615There a different formats. Standard, which is newer cards and the cards rotate out and only the newest 3 years are legal. Modern, which is all cards from 2003 to today. And legacy, which is all cards from 1993 to today.Slivers aren't legal in standard and modern and legacy, while slivers are legal, are far too powerful for a sliver deck and you'd get btfo hardcore.That being said, those are the 1v1 formats. Commander is multiplayer and slivers are viable there, though some people don't like playing against them. A decent manabase isn't cheap. A mid tier manabase alone will be $150 as it's a 5 color deck typically.
>>98498690Leave Slivers alone :( >>98498692Thank you>ManabaseAt the time I also ran mono and rarely duo decks like Elves or Goblins, is it really more common now (I played from like 98-04 or something) to have that many different manas in one deck?
>>984987192 and 3 color decks are most common. But commander you play a legendary card as your commander. And all sliver legendaries are 5 color
They forgot about Pioneer Slivers.
>>98498690>I hate this classic MTG original tribe because youtube told me to!!!!!UB slopper detected
>>98498690>Hating sliversHAHAHAHA YOU FUCKING FAGGOT HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>98498733Thank you I will look into this moreMan I wish Pojo looked like it did 20 years ago and wasn't the mess it is today
>>98498822Pioneer only exists on MTG arena
>>98499012Arena doesn't even have all the Slivers, like Galerider.
>>98498918slivers are based but cummander is for faggots
Something about the hobbit set makes me really fucking hate itI think it's the cash grab nature of it being a weak ass set with ridiculous prices because of the lotr set's precendentAnd idiots opening collector boxes and thinking their "surge foil" version of a $2 card is worth $100The book cover is lame and retardedAnd the cards in the set are 95% garbage. So many horrible rares like wtf is pic related?
>>98499012its getting support next year, it will be revitalizedhypercopium
>>98499171also the next standard rotation is removing like 7 sets worth of cards, so in the big picture there's a lot of potential pioneer players who don't want to let go of whatever staples are rotating soon
>>98498152>will
>>98499161A much more reasonable stance
>>98498719Obligatory shill mention: Pauper is a format where only cards that have been printed at common rarity are legal. It's much cheaper to get into than other popular formats like commander and modern are, and because of this it's increasingly getting events ran for it at many game stores. Pauper has a huge variety of decks. For example, slivers are still playable in pauper to this day! An example decklist, from a recent large tournament: https://mtgdecks.net/Pauper/slivers-decklist-by-alisa-farenzena-3017847
