Heavy Metal Edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/warhammer-the-old-world/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Battle March General's Compendiumhttps://mega.nz/file/tP5STCAS#4yDuu8WLk-Mn4Ut2pe7x7AWwxJmEjXW5cvV0xtwMWD4>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>98479636>Thread Question:What is your favorite unit in your favorite army? What is your least favorite unit in your favorite army?
I am beginning to get into the lore TOW and I'm not able to find stuff on how the average person lived and worked or how specifically the economy functioned. Is it just medieval or is there any fantasy flair to it?
>>98493012just medieval for the most part
Morathi said I was her 3rd favorite loverAnyrion is firstand everyone else tied for second
>>98493012>how specifically the economy functioned.K shaped dwile flonking exchange system with Grombrindal options.
>>98493012Just read WFRP stuff that has a lot of how random reasents and burgers live in the Empire and some of the other Human-centric nations
>>98493012Its a setting for a plastic toy soldier game for fuck sake, should they also explain how different races wipe their asses?
>>98492983>What is your favorite unit in your favorite army?Gate Master on Foot>What is your least favorite unit in your favorite army?Peasant Levy, I hate the peasantry so much
>>98493020go back to /aosg/
>>98492983>What is your favorite unit in your favorite army? What is your least favorite unit in your favorite army?favorite?Dragon Princes they are want made me go from an elf hating teen to a elf loving manLeast favorite?Shadow warriors. kinda boring desu. Love the shadow king though
>>98493032actually yes. Dawi have a whole ritual and high elves have enchanted bidets
>>98492983>TQFavourite - Longbeards. Just love these bastards. Absolutely fantastic lore and always liked how solid of a choice they were in game.Least favourite - miners/hammerers. the miners are such a cool concept but they never really did anything cool with them in game. In the lore they are meant to be both the most traditional and most technologically peogressive dwarfs. In game they're just ambushing warriors. Hammerers have always been a really nice choice in terms of list building. But they always felt off compared to their lore, i understand wanting to differentiate them from ironbreakers but they made both units more lackluster than how i would like them to play on the field.
>>98493032Is this the fabled deep lore of fantasy I was told about?Seriously though, some of us just really like getting immersed in settings, is that hard to comprehend?
>>98493062>the miners are such a cool concept but they never really did anything cool with them in game. In the lore they are meant to be both the most traditional and most technologically peogressive dwarfs. In game they're just ambushing warriors.oh you mean by playstyle? I was about to argue with you because miners are hands down the coolest and most character dwarven sculpt imo.I heckin love miners
>>98493017Thanks for confirming
How much does the Old World differ from OG Warhammer? The endtimes stuff seems kind of retarded.
>tqI'll go above and beyond here and say my two least favourite units in the entire game are chaos chariots and forsaken. Specifically this chaos chariot, because it sucks and has failed to do anything in well over a dozen games and forsaken in general because they're complicated to play with, annoying to collect, and generally un-fun. I don't care that they're meta, one mutation sprue is only able to make 5 of them and I can't be fucked to hunt down another to make 5 more.My favourite unit is the humble chaos warrior, naturally. Simple. Reliable. Trustworthy. A block of chaos warriors will never do you wrong. They won't do you right either, but still.
>>98493044Man, those Helves have no right to be as cool as they look.
>>98493073We pretend endtimes didnt happenThe game is set 300 years back because gw doesnt want to hurt its retarded baby known as AoS. It plays a lot like 6th with more streamlining and a little less flavor
>>98493066We have an autistic manlet shitposter here who never leaves. If you encounter completely unfounded hostility out of nowhere it's almost always going to be him lashing out.
>>98493078Style is the High Elf creed, Keigh-mon
>>98493087>"Yes anon, this is my mother. Why are you snickers?"
>>98493077I love your army and especially your banners chaos anon
>>98493079So there's nothing weird with Old World it's just polished 6th? Thank fuck.
If Dark Elves kidnap High Elf kids, then shouldn't some of them be blonde? Or do they just kidnap High Elf kids for sacrifices and shit?
>>98493087So is getting a dawi axe between the cheeks, ale sniffer.
>>98493095one annoying thing is that it has had some major game changing fixes and you have to read the faq to get themFor example they fixed the line hammer problem, and added parry>>98493103They usually kill them or sell the to slavers
>>98493095>polished 6th I really wish it was just that.
>>98493087They have style, but they also have that haughty attitude that makes them end up insufferable.
>>98493103Blonde dark elves exist(pic); they're just kinda rare.Dark elves don't really like making HE sacrifices since they to much of a status symbol in dark elf society
>>98493114Sometimes haughtiness is endearing.Also if any race earned it, it would be the one responsible for keeping the setting from being perma-raped by demons
>>98493001If you were truly a slave to your desires, you would do anything in your power to satisfy your desire to get models for the legacy army you supposedly love so much.Don't use psychological terms (from a branch as loathsome and base as the psychology of personality! *ptuh*, I spit on that branch, get interested in a real field of research like perception) as an excuse. Seize your destiny, anon! Break free of the shackles you impose upon yourself! Go collect those God damn models! Learned helplessness is for rats who got shocked one too many times! Are you a rat? Or are you a man? Don't answer that.Also, which legacy faction are we even talking about here? Chaos dwarfs? You're right fucked if that's the case, either convince someone in your local area to 3d print you some or get ready to sell a kidney (preferably not yours) for the really old ones. VC? Stop being a bitch and go collect 'em from the secondhand market, they're everywhere. You'll have a hard time getting 7th ed skeletons without starting an organ harvesting operation, but if you're OK with using the older ones you can get them directly from GW right now. The tomb kings skeletons are just the old VC skeletons with an upgrade sprue. Ogres? You have no excuse, their entire range was still available until very recently and is being dumped on the second-hand market as we speak. Skaven? Gorrillions of them on the second-hand market. A guy I play WHFB with started collecting them when TOW was announced and he has a gigantic army of ratmen now. No excuse. Dark elves? If you're in Ottawa, Trinity had several boxes of metal dark elves. They're also readily available second-hand and GW still sells most of the range as it was in 8th. Lizardmen? Tons of 'em secondhand.If you specifically demand new models put out by specifically GW for the specific intent of specifically using them in specifically TOW, then I have nothing more to tell you and you should be ashamed of your own inadequacy.
>>98493124That is true. You also reminded me I bought a bunch of these when the Elves were incorrectly listed and sold for pennies on Ebay.
>>98493068Miniature wise, the current dwarf miners suffers from belonging to the shittiest generation of GW (plastic) dwarf that replaced some of the best looking metal sculpts in the range with gap filled anonymous looking dwarfs.Their chainmail wifebeaters make no fucking sense and their faces are sculpted so badly that in all the official pictures GW ever released of them, they never paint the eyes. Like, the heavy metal team couldn't be bothered to do their eyes. Check their journal, the rulebook, WD, these bastards never have eyes painted.Hell, even when they were released in June 2007, in the very painting guide the released to promote and sell this kit, they just don't do the eyes.Also tney had an opportunity to do something with them (sappers, heavy machinery, powertools) and they did very very little, even model-wise.
>>98492983>TQFavorite: Hobgoblin Khan/wolf riders. I always love having units that function contrary to how the bulk of an army does, and it's very fun to have some fast and sneaky cavalry in an army of slow, bulky footsloggers. And that contrast/limit is important; I don't think I would like playing an O&G army with a whole bunch of wolves.Least: K'daai Fireborn. Ugly models, mind-bogglingly terrible rules (daemon with armor? no daemon save or armor save; makes perfect sense!), can't even breathe fire without spending points on a magic item.
>>98493020>ai slop
>>98493012Do you mean TOW as in specifically the wargame taking place during the era of the three emperors (300 prior to WHFB/WFRP) and the new lore they've written for it, or TOW as generally meaning warhammer fantasy? In any case TOW has only had some very general outlines written for it fluffwise, a few narrative campaigns and a very shitty canon-contradicting novel. The newly released TOW RPG might have some pointers, but afaik it's so far all monster-of-the-week style adventures centered around one podunk town in Talabecland.Overall you're better off looking at WFRP, which has 30 years of published sourcebooks, many of which go into exceeding autism about economics. Generally the Empire is a bit more advanced than you'd think from the aesthetics, I'd say it's roughly comparable to England during the Wars of the Three Kingdoms, except much much more poorer due to every bit of wilderness being infested with evil things that want to kill you. But like you've got widespread printing, a growing mass of urban poor, an up and coming artisan class, and you can almost smell the first enclosures are about to begin. Some places like Nuln are a bit further along, with the first real workshops springing up, while others like Ostermark and Stirland are still deeply feudal and rural places. Then you've also got Marienburg which is just 17th century Amsterdam, with its stock market, futures market, insurance houses and tulip scams.Some interesting sourcebooks you could check out include Sigmar's Heirs, Marienburg: Sold Down the River, Death on the Reik, Archives of the Empire I-III, Sea of Claws and the 2e WFRP Companion.The most important thing to remember is that fundamentally the Empire is still a very early modern economy. There's no free trade here, or innocent passage or free movement of goods and people. Everything goes through various guilds and landlords and you better believe everyone is rent seeking like crazy.
>>98493278Thank you anon, this was exactly the info I was looking for.And to answer your question, I guess I really mean WHF since that's what my buddy is into. I play TOW only for the rules and new models.
>>98493278To add another thing, besides the fantasy stuff like dwarf mithril being valuable and priests being able to conjure blessings, I would say one of the big differences between the Empire and the IRL HRE (as well as the 40k Imperium) is that organised labour in a pretty modern sense of the term exists in the setting. While irl, this would've all been handled through strictly hierarchical guilds and clans or corvée labour, in Warhammer Fantasy sectors like river transport and logistics are dominated by 1970s style corrupt unions in bed with the mafia. If you think about it though, teamsters and stevedores running around does make some amount of sense though. The Empire pretty consistently carries a much smaller human population than it otherwise could because everyone is constantly being eaten by goblins/zombies/beastmen/etc. In such a situation of a prolonged labour shortage, it's not that unlikely that day-workers would start flexing their organising muscles way earlier.
>>98493315Yeah I figured. A lot of people coming here nowadays asking about TOW when they really just mean the classic WHFB/WFRP era. Anywho you won't need it if you're just looking for fluff, but if you ever want to run a trade-focused WFRP campaign, MadAlfred has a website with the complete gazeteers of every single human settled region, so theoretically you can have near endless merchant based adventures.
More progress. Perryfag is a troon
>>98493655I swear I'm not an addict I just want to get as much painting in as I can before work starts. I got like a week left
>called my general by name and my opponent said it was cringeDisgusting. Bet he doesn't even know where his guys live when they're not fighting.
>>98493718Yeah that guy was a mondo-mega faggot who should stick to mtg
>>98493087
>>98493758lotherns human quarter right?
These dudes are awesome. Militant woodsmen with lions? Sign me the fuck up.
dark elves > high elves > wood elves all deserve a krumpin by me gitz
>>98493079>more streamlining Such as?
>>98493114Kek this like when poor losers hate the rich. Nietzschean was right with the concept of ressentiment, the more loser someone is, the more poor, etc. the more spiteful and bitter their character. High elves are seen as haughty because they literally are better than you. The average high elf is superior to the average empire peasant or dwarf manual Laborer, and you know it.
>>98493956haha good one perry! show us some models
>TQMost favourite: Giants (Orcs and Gobs). Giants are awesome. I know some people think the plastic ones look like retards but its a fantastic kit to work with. And its got a lot of fun abilities too. Least favourite: Goblin wolf riders. They're obviously made to be tricksy harassers shooting with their shortbows then dancing out of range, but impetuous just ruins the whole tactic. Yeah, its O&G. They're impetuous. Its a thing. But when an army rule/theme cancels out a unit's planned use then whats the use of the unit?At least you can slap Kiknik in a unit and make a nasty ambusher to run through backlines I suppose.
>>98492983Trolls.Orcs boys.
>>98493936
>>98492983>>Thread Question:>What is your favorite unit in your favorite army? What is your least favorite unit in your favorite army?Black Orcs or Trolls... or Arachnarok or Spider Riders.Troll Hag. Just not a fan.
>>98493940The old cloak of beards was something that cause Terror in dwarves but also gave them hatred. It also turned offed their gay little runes.Now it causes terror to everything but you cant use the wearers leadership.Its overall a good trade but loses its flavor
>>98493963You're obsessed dude. I'm not even perry. When has perry even defended high elves before? Get a grip.
>>98494031How is losing flavor streamlined? Just changing something isn't "streamlining" it.
>>98494069The rules in that example are less specific and more generalized as opposed to the old more lore influenced old ones.That is reasonably streamlined
>>98494084That's not streamlined, that's just simplified. Streamlining is taking a janky process and making it read or work smoother whilst keeping it's function and/or flavor the same. Taking a paragraph written by Rick Priestly and rewriting it by someone who knows how to format a sentence is streamlining.
>>98494084Streamlining would be something like losing partial hits under templates, only one roll for multiple random attacks in an unit, ensorcelled weapons applying to all weapons available to a unit and so on. A magic item losing its faction-specific rule is not streamlining.
>>98493146Too long; didn't read.
>>98493001Average beastmen player
I'm worried james is going to sabotage oldworld
night goblins coming along
repostan my most recently completed orcs, still base coating a bunch of warbosses and a bsb>>98494513i really like the skin tone you've got for them, what paint did you use?
I built some dwarfs
>>98493113Dumb rules or dumb modern day "additions"
>>98494476Then play something else
>>98494528Fantastic job anon.
>>98494476He won't sabotage it.He'll fuck it up out of a genuine desire to 'improve' old world.
>tqI love the old Colin Dixon Longbeards but I don't even have any cause I can't find any stls and gw won't sell me any My least favourite unit is plastic longbeards
>>98493866I love my flanderized furry elves
>>98494865I have no idea what this file contains https://gofile.io/d/Be7diF
Would people be upset if i put hotrod flames on my gyrocopter?
>>98494906Anon I kneelThank you so much
>>98494943I'm serious, I don't know if it's the dwarfs you're looking for or an older version, don't celebrate too soon. I'm uploading 3 more, larger, files, but other than saying "dwarf" and "beard" in the name I can't check what they are.
>>98494917Sounds pretty rock&roll to me, which is quintessentially Warhammer.
We need another furry faction. I suggest cute foxes.
>>98494995Don't worry anon you're getting Indian tigermen.
I put together a Boar Warboss from the plastic kit. Instead of wasting the gargantuan double handed axe or the standard, I opted for both!Meet Bobog da Madlad, weilding a two handed great axe with his standard being neatly planted on his pig's bum.
>>98494528Amazing boyz man. What did you use for the green?
>>98494540>>98495093Welcome to the start of the rest of your lives. Get building and painting, make sure to have lore about /yourdudes/ and enjoy playing when you get round to it.
>>98493969Just give a goblin big boss the anti impetious hat and you're good to go.
>>98495093Looks like a proppa lad, may he behead many a foe in his life.
Do you think some intimidating demon masked helms would be enough to offset Cathay's lack of edge?They fit more in AoS as is
>>98495093>upside down banner >didn't bother doing anything to the awkward joint left behind state of it
>>98493012Just read any book about the late middle age and (early) early modern period
>>98495156Knowing GW these would be overdesigned into oblivion thus making them still fit into AoS rather than TOW. But being perfectly honest, I think TOW is moving in the direction of "it's AoS with square bases" or more accurately it has been that from the start. Models like pic related are so far away from what I would call WHFB designs and that's not even using the foot knights for Bretonnia which I think are even worse. The game is changing and the aesthetic is changing, the only thing you can do is to collect the models you enjoy while you can and play with likeminded people who want a certain vibe to their games.
I mean literally... JUST as I was contemplating getting the tomb kings battalion they sell out everywhere and GW discontinues it. I mean fuck this ALWAYS happens to me
>>98495156Much dishonul to ancestors to wear demon mask
>>98493103They all use hair dye
>>98495168>I didn’t buy something that was available for years and now it’s discontinued>how could this be happening to me
>>98495156>the faction that's just normal ming chinese guys fits better in aos than towHuh?Funnily enough aos actually has some Shang dynasty motifs in one of their factions
>>98495180They're too clean, heroic, etc. I don't think blanche touched the concepts for them. They wouldn't fit in even 8th edition.
>>98495167>Models like pic related are so far away from what I would call WHFB designsnewgroid opinion
>>98495187If you can't see the difference between the models then there is no help for you, you are genuinely a braindead moron.
>>98495187This guy has a reasonably sized pauldron for 28mm>>98495167This guy has a pauldron bigger than his torso. A hammer whose head is similarly as large
>>98495167Seeing people accept the awful warriors and marauders just means that people will accept the new degenerated fb.
>>98495156their problem isn't the miniatures but the fluff, no
>>98495195What's wrong with warriors and marauders?Too little skin for your homosexual lust?
>>98495195I grabbed a box of old marauder horsemen and a chaos battalion box before they went out of stock so I could have for an eventual collection down the line. I'd prefer to have the even older chaos warriors but I'm not in a massive rush to hunt them down on ebay. As long as you have people who feel similarly to you in your area then the game and hobby will never truly die, that I'm thankful for.
>>98495187People like you killed Warhammer fantasy and will continue to ruin the hobby for people who actually care about it
>>98495197The actual minatures are already overdesigned and lack proper character despite that. It’s why people do that god awful terracotta scheme that people pretend is good.
>>98495199yes
Storm cast wilñ be coming to tje old world
>>98495217He-Man Action Figure marauders will RETVRN with them!SOVL!
>>98495103thanks, goblin green from vallejo for the base, green wash from army painter for wash, highlight with goblin green then escorpena green (or scorpy green now)
>>98495219How do these have better weapon proportions than the new marauders
>>98495195You have genuinely terrible taste if you dislike the new marauders. Some of the best sculpts ever done by GW
>>98495219You.can still gey yhe gore blade warband
Slowly making progress on my baggage train.I’m not the best at making ramshackle stuff but I’m quite pleased with this. Just need to greenstuff a few more ropes holding the frame together.
Both the Core Set and Battle March are OOS. Core Set for the second time since restocking. TOW is selling very well :D
>>98495206You own no models, though?
>>98495225You mean the models that don’t look good at all when they’re painted as anything other than stinky poo poo black and brown because all the detail just makes them look noisy?
>>98495236Forgot pic
>>98495236The BM book or the BM boxes?
>>98495212These guys are so much better than the nu-rauders it’s insane
>>98495240Can you show us a single Warhammer Fantasy model you own perhaps? I don't think you own or play Fantasy.
>>98495243So in US then, which has certain stock issues at times
>>98495236Depends on how much GW produce at a time. It doesn't bode well if core items are consistently OOP imo unless you think MESBG is GW's big earner Hopefully we see this reflected in more warehouse allocation so we can actually buy something
>>98495243The WoC box
>>98495237I am quite LITERALLY painting a 4e metal cannon as we speak, although I doubt a newfag like you would have any interest in something old and shitty like that when you could be playing with your new plastic chinese dragons and over designed soulless goyslop
>>98495250The core set is also sold out in Europe.>>98495252>selling out is actually badKek. TOW is a core pillar game, according to GW themselves. Not a niche side game like MESBG. They get way way more stock produced, that's self evident just by comparing how many third party stores stock TOW vs MESBG.
>>98495225They lack any and all muscularity, anon! I want buff muscular marauaders! I tell a lie, of course, because I already have some buff muscular marauders and they're so bad that I don't even want to play with them. But let it be known I've been hunting down the buffest most muscular of all marauders for many years now! And I found them! But they're too expensive.Anyway, the new marauders are bad because they're wearing too many clothes. I'm not gay.
>>98495263>no timestamp>screenshotlmao. It's a good thing you're really stupid.
>>98495263>buzzword soup>no timestampOk buddy
>>98495268>>98495271Enjoy my friends
>>98495230>>98495219This one,shame you can't use it in fantasy , these are nice models
>>98495290Alright I think your take is terrible but you are valid.
>>98495263Is this like bait or something? You do realise the Empire great cannons look ridiculously out of proportion compared to actual historicals? Despite supposedly being the standard Empire cannon, in a historical wargaming context, they can /only/ work as like the very heaviest cast siege cannons to have existed. See pic related, where the blue chassis is an GC equivalent. Warhammer has always been a cartoonishly exaggerated version of history.
So, question.What happens if I put this on a unit champion?
>>98495265Right, I'm not saying TOW is a flop or whatever is making you crying you tourist.
>>98495290Is the orge and other metal meant to be a unit filler?
>>98495304Going off Wayland Games stock. It seems that they overproduced the Chaos Dragon while not making enough WoC battle marches (which are sold out temporarily on Wayland). This I think bodes well for TOW. We have an older playerbase, us going more for value boxes instead of large centerpieces means we signal to GW that we want more value boxes and less centerpieces. Don't get me wrong I think the new Chaos Dragon is sweet but I don't want every army to have something anywhere near that large.
>>98495299No one is saying Fantasy is a purely historical game, it is exaggerated, but just because something is exaggerated doesn't mean you have to go crazy with things. Older fantasy models are great because they are historical with extra flavour.
>>98495299Oh no my great cannons is too great, my lobster is too buttery>>98495311Yeah using ogre with greatsword + blessing of sigmar I'm going to convert into holding a greatsword with a little altar with candles is going to be a unit filler for my 4e/6e greatswords unit
>>98495303Well, you can't. Or rather, it won't work the way you think it will. Increasing the champion's movement will do nothing, as units move at the speed of the slowest model in said unit. The loner rule forbids characters from joining units, so your unit champion would be expelled from the unit forthwith. This is, naturally, impossible, so you wouldn't even be able to use the item in the first place. Also, effects that apply specifically to the wearer don't apply to the unit said wearer is in unless explicitly stated otherwise. Ergo, nothing happens. None of the effects work.
>>98495317>historical with extra flavor That’s exactly what Cathay is, and what the new marauders are. Literally just fantasy Norse Viking pillagers
>>98495334No the marauders look like larpers and Cathay still has British warping that makes them insanely lame.
>>98495326Damn, shame. I was hoping I'd finally find a use for Apophas.
>>98495344>No the marauders look like larpersKind of like Empire eh?
>>98494953NTA but thank you!I will be uploading some more dwarfs myself later, it's anons like you that keep these models alive.I noticed that in the folders everything is duplicated with MACOSX versions of the files. Forgive my ignorance but why is that?>>98495206I can't stand most models released in the past 25 years but I'm pretty sure that what "killed" whfb was the lack of sales to a level that GW deemed profitable and worth investing in.
>>98495344Can you tell me which historical country went dressed like YMCA into battle?
>>98495234Finished the ropes of green stuff.
>>98495295Of course you can use them in Fantasy. Those are just Khorne affiliated Marauders and Chosen with a Mark of Khorne.
>>98495453Good shit anon.
>>98495148Thanks man. For now he is just the standard bearer.>>98495161Upside down banner is very Orcy! If you mean the head upside diwn, i just imagine the wind. Think mid charge.
>>98495161you have no idea just how flatulent those boars are, do you
When is the new WoC and beastmen army list coming out and getting added to the list builders? I want to build lists already
>>98495549Have you tried a pen and paper anon? there are screen shots of the mystery and every units in ravening hordes
>>98495453Nice, chaos baggage train?
>>98495585Yep, for my Beastmen. Here’s the ”driver” too, but I’m going to paint him separately before placing him on the same base.
>>98495453The Cyghor/Ghorgon kit has so many good bits. I've always loved the big rock, but the hanging skeleton is sick too. This man will see paint as soon as I get through my last 15 gors
>>98494513>>98494528>>98495093Good stuff lads. I'm back to the grindstone on my 35 remaining goblins after I get my workout in this morning. We are all going to make it. Maybe even finish our armies too.
>>98495598Beyond kino beastbro. Was learning greenstuff sculpting hard? I’ve always wanted to try it.
alright, i think im gonna print. im about halfway through my dwarfs battalion and these minis just look fucking awful. all the SOVL and old good new bad in the world cant save the sculpts. you've got mushy details and vague areas where hair and capes and chainmail all just sort of mould draft together into a flat blob of nothing. the models fit together like shit leaving massive gaps. there are HUGE mould slips on every single model, the posability is pretty minimal and there are only 4 bodies total with the heads also being part of the torsos so you cant even do headswaps. so for printing, im thinking about either the highland dwarfs, which are probably the closest to the warhammer aesthetic, but their details are a little soft, or i was also looking at these ones, which have some really good troops, and more of a moria flat edge look to the weapons and armor which is neat. https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-dwarven-holds-legends-of-old-world-476316torn between the two. or if anyone knows any other good designers that have done the full range im open to suggestions
>>98495659I am no expert, and it is finicky, besides all I've done was making small round tubes to wrap around bits of sprue and fill gaps so if anything I am still a novice with greenstuff, but I went ahead with it anyways as it was the only way to really learn.>>98495618I bet he is proud to wave the banner that will frighten the foes of his warherd.
>Want a unisex army for story reasons.>Wood Elves are immediately ruled out unless I recast torsos and heads for plastics.>The metals are a lost cause.Balls.
>>98495689Recasting is easy, just remember vents. Sharp details are pointing down - air rises so if it will accumulate in those overhangs unless it's pointing down or vented. One pour vent - one air vent
>>98495665I'M GOONA PROONT! Thanks for letting us know mate
>>98495618Keep it up Anon. I'm the same boat, my chaos lord waits till I finish my 1,5k. Do you plan to damage the banner some more? Will it get bret pattern and heraldry which will be defiled, or just bloodied?
>>98493762Only reason why you would have HE nobles, human fruit sellers, and a sea guard marching around
I have time for hobbying but I just end up browsing youtube and shitposting /tg/ all day. FFS
>>98495814pick up that brush Anon, I believe in you!
>>98495814A coat of paint, a shitpost, repeat.
>>98495717Good to know, thank you Anon. I'm oddly peculair about my armies either being Male only or having a select unit being female only. Call me a bigot or whatever, I'm just autistic in that regard. I'm also going to use your advice to finish my Dark Eldar Kabal now via chest recasting, thanks bro!
>tqGame wise, my favorite is Centigors. I love how versatile they are and how much power they bring to an army. The biggest example of glass cannon beastmen have.My most hated is bestigors. They simply are out performed by every single other unit in the army for their point value and use case.Lore wise, I love almost the entire army, including bestigors. The only things I dislike are chariots because they dont feel beastmen like. Change them to Tuskgor herd that has all the same stats and point cost. That way you can run razorgors and tuskgors next to each other. If you really feel the need to give characters a mount option just make them razorgor cavalry or make up a new crazy anomaly like a bandersnatch since we already have the jabberwocky (jabberslythe).
>>98495865I too love Centigors and they do not get nearly the respect they deserve. So fun to use.
Should I buy one of these, strip the Sigmar icongraphy and turn it into a War Altar of Morr?
>>98495915It could work, but you're going to be spending a lot of time filing down S's, comets, hammers and Gryphons on that model
My autism really is hurting /tg/. Been trying to Mathhammer the best defensive combo for my Orc Warboss but it's killing me.>Dead 'Ard Armour + Talisman of Protection+1 Toughness, 4+ armour save and 5+ ward save>Meteoric Iron and Talisman of Protection5+ armour save immune to AP and a Ward save.What, mathematically, is better?
>>98495972Dead 'ard armor and ironhide talisman. Makes him essentially immune to st4 or lower attacks. Then you can have choppiest choppa with shield for 3+ armor and high offense.
>>98495972Trollhide trousers + Talisman of Protection + Heavy Armour + Shield
>>98495972If you're only picking between those two options, it depends what you're fighting. The former is better against high-strength low AP attacks (literally non-existent, a complete non-factor), but it forces you to either be on foot, riding a boar, or riding a chariot, while the latter is good against basically everything while also allowing you to have your warboss ride a wyvern.Almost everything has AP-1. A lot of stuff has AP-2. This is why the AoMI is so good. However, warbosses already have access to full plate armour for free. I'd say giving them any magical armour besides the trollhide trousers is retarded. Even with a great weapon, a T5 3+/5+/5+++ is extremely powerful.
>>98495993Also essentially immune to armor bane and cleaving blow
>>98495993>>98496009>>98496044Thanks lads, guess I overlooked Trollhide too long. In this case, my leader would be footslogging>Dead Ard and Ironhide TalismanI am not too concerned about str4 or 5 attacjs, I exoect my Warboss to be facing great weapons and lances.
Who has a better understanding of magic: a high elf archmage who studied it for a thousand years, or a random chaos cultist that tzeentch personally whispered shit to before turning his penis into an arm
>>98494528>skin toneCheers anon, it's just nurgling green, I'm following the gloomspite gitz skin recipe. I like it because it makes them look pale, like they have no melanin (chlorophyll?) from living in dark caves for so long. Kind of like the gingers of the greenskin world. The rest of my O&G will have regular green skin with a more brown tone to it.Your orcs are looking good btw, the banner looks great.>>98495453This is looking great, the concept is cool and the execution is spot on so far>>98495665I think those are titan forge dwarfs right? Their files are generally pretty good from what I've printed. There was also some discussion of dwarf STLs a couple of threads back, I posted a writeup of my top 3 choices with an image of each if you're interested.
>>98496078a high elf archmage, the cultist will however think he has the super special secret knowledge of ONE of the deepest tricks and shortcuts of magic
>>98495915What was your plan to make it Morr specific? I was thinking of slapping one of these on
>>98496231These are pretty girthy. You could try shoving them up your ass but it doesn’t look prettt.
>>98496009I am going to rob this for my sword and board Warboss. Thanks boss.
>>98495915Glue a Garden of Morr's statue in place of the Griffon (maybe replace the sword with a scythe).Of course you will also need to replace all the small Sigmarite icons with Morr iconography (roses, hourglass, skulls).
>$230I aint paying that much for STL files m8. Jesus. Has anyone printed these at 28mm scale? How do they look?
What are you working on? My renegade crowns stuff is getting a lick of paintMight swap the magenta for screamer pink, I think its too dull as is
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>>98496395My avalorn elves. I am trying to get as much painting in before work starts and my time goes to shit
>>98495775Bret patterned and then defiled. I was a little daunted with trying to damage the banner in a way that kept it from looking like jagged plastic. I plan on adding hoof prints and blood stains.
>>98496395why not just layer the screamer pink on top of it to add depth? Its a natural transition
>>98496447You can add beastmen runes to it as well to have them claimed it as their own as well to use it to enchant it with their primal sorcery.
>>98496163yeah, titanforge. i've printed some of their stuff before so i know its decent, even if some of their presupports can be a bit dubious at times. i like their designs, although highland for sure has the best rangers, and pretty good longbeards. unfortunately i think their styles might clash too much to do a mix and match between the two ranges. maybe not. im not sure. i also bought a bunch of the avatars of war physical kits, but those were extremely hit or miss. basically the only really good one was the slayers, which was sprue plastic flat joints. the rest of them were resin plastic cast loose parts, and had some pretty bad mould slips and defects and just generally poor quality and part fit
>>98496402Nice, where are the bodies from?
>be a human diplomat requested to broker peace between fueding high elves and dwarves in the province>both come in exactly 5 minutes early to show up the other>the dwarf thane has a fucking silver helm horn on his hip. >the elf has a fucking cloak of beards>your halfling giving you tea has an extra low cut blouse and giving you the eye>your ogre bailiff is looking at the halfling with a far more litteral hungerIs it worth the rieks crowns anon?
>>98495546I imagine being deaf in a nuln army would be a blessing
>>98495453Clever chaos baggage trainFor chorfs I'd imaging a cart full of slaves pulled by oxen would be goodNo idea what I'd us for Orcs or skaven
>>98496586>OrcsCart dragged by a boar filled with loot and stabby bitz>SkavenA wagon of Warpstones and spare parts for their gizmos pulled by either a legion of giant rats or a rat ogre.
>>98496564Yes, anything to fuck the halfling.
>>98496612Well you best resolve things fast its nearly the ogres lunch
>>98496620I hire a fishman to steal the cape of beards and the silver horn, then slap the beard onto the halfling and glue the horn as if it were her nose, then I paint her and the ogre green with whatever is left of the grueling old soup, and finally kick them to run towards the moot while telling the assembled armies I will give the empire's blessings to whoever catches the greenskins
>>98496612The Warhammer smut general has a poster you might appreciate.
Is taking 3x10 Handgunners and 3x10 Crossbowmen unsporting for a missile themed army? If my opponent can survive the initial cannons and missiles, my lines usually shatter to heavy cav and heavy infantry charges.
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>>98496705Is there a point to 30 man gun units? only the first rank can shoot right? 2 if you are on a hill
>>98496298If it's any consolation I paid €44 for that entire bundle as an add-on to his second KS. That KS finished in april, and he's still not sent those files. He's been too busy making and delivering trench crusade STLs for another KS. A month ago he reappeared on our KS and promised he'd send out the files to backers "this weekend", and promptly disappeared again, no files.Anyway, after a couple months I took it upon myself to procure them via 'other means'. Here is a mockup next to some other well-known sculpts. I've scaled his dwarfs to 2.4x here. The goblin is exactly the size you'd expect, and the human is scaled perfectly to the 6th ed starter set empire spearmen. The bases are 20mm.
>>98496733You're a better sleuth than me because I cant find them anywhere. What are some names of the individual files?
>>984962982/2and here is a mockup of a 500 point army I plan to print later this year. I made this to test how they'd look at 28mm, and I think they look pretty neat. These are 20mm bases again. I know it's not real prints but I haven't found any photos of these printed at 28mm, so I hope this helps!
>>98496753get yourself in the /3dpg/ group if you're not already, my friend!
>>98496778Easier said than done unfortunately.
>>98496395Trying to paint up the MTO Orc Boyz before Friday. Personal project the plastic Orc kit
>>98496564I sit the halfling on my lap and sniff her hair while I have the dwarf and elf bid for my favor in this matter
>>98496395Was thinking of making more progress on my goblins, but I ended up relaxing post-workout and reading some Ray Bradbury instead. I might clean some mold lines later.
>>98495633Cheers anon, I'm doing a batch of 32 night goblins while also holding down a new-ish gym routine. The heatwaves are making both hobby room and home gym barely useable, but progress is being made week by week overall. WAGMI.
>>98496586>For chorfs I'd imaging a cart full of slaves pulled by oxen would be goodA bunch of slaves pulling a cart with an ox in it. >>98496952>>98497001>Goblin player and gym go-erWhat are chances of three in the same thread? Shit posting while waiting for my pre-workout to kick in.
>>98497042Are those kruel boyz on the right
>>98497051No. They're a bunch of odd goblins I had lying around. Some are Kev Adams sculpts from Impact. Some are from the Trudvang boardgame. Some are Reaper. Some are from an indie sculptor I Kickstarted.I got another couple catches to get through but when there done I'll have about 100 goblins done without making any actual purchases. Even the bases were leftovers I had lying around.
>>98497051Newfag.
>>98497001WAGMI indeed bro. The heat is fucking miserable and has drained so much of my endurance, but despite it and an injury I am still recovering from I am doing my best to get back into shape. Outdoor cardio/leg day in 80-90 degrees or higher makes me want to die.>>98497042>What are chances of three in the same thread? Shit posting while waiting for my pre-workout to kick in.Glorious Goblin gathering. I have noticed an overall /fit/ and /tg/ crossover, but more as of late. Mind if I ask what green(s) you used on your Night Goblins?
>>98496844Let me see what I can do this weekend, I haven't checked it in a long time so don't know if it's even still active, so no promisesOtherwise if you're wanting to look for the files anyway, they aren't named individually, iirc it's just some acronym as the filename for the entire archive, which is in the usual .001 .002 .003 etc format. Searching the creators name is the best bet.
>>98497140Army Painter's Greenskin speed paint. I didn't like how blue it was so I tried something else on the others.
>>98497158Much appreciated! My eyes might be worse than I thought, they have a deep pine green to me.
>>98497218That's a good description for it. I wanted a more bright-toxic green for my goblins. But I think it looks good to have a little darker tone for night goblins.
>Love chaos spawns>20 year old kit for two is still 45 eurodollars (price has only gone up)>Almost the same price at LGS as GW stores for some reasonYou cant imagine the mental gymnastics i do to justify spending money on these
>>98497309I don't like the plastic kit. I think a scratch build spawn sounds like fun project.
>>98497329This. It's a perfect opportunity to grab some bits and try your hand at sculpting.
>>98493032>elvesI am sworn to secrecy as to the method, but magic is involved, and the result is so sanitary that one would be forgiven for thinking the elves lack bowels.>humansAs one might normally expect, ranging in standards from Bretonnian Damsel to Nuln Sewerjack. Wiping materials range from silk or paper to leaves, moss, stones, communal sponges on sticks, et cetera, and washing with water is also employed. Some eccentric wizards use methods similar to the elves, though cruder.>dorfsTheir scat is not unlike rocks, owing to their diet, so wiping is rather easy. They wipe with rocks or wash with water after, depending on the environment.>halflingsSimilar to humans, only much more frequent, and with similar methods of cleanup. Their diverse diet gives them solid and healthy stools, but I question the efficiency of their digestion, considering how much they eat for their size, as the smell is very unpleasant.>beastmenLike animals, no wiping at all. Their scat smells more or less like the leavings of a carnivore, and it can be smelled on their repulsive, matted hides.>orcs & goblinsEnemy standards, nobles' garments, and beards are kept for this purpose. Not for the sake of cleanliness, but because they seem to find it humorous.>trollDue to their thorough digestion and strong stomach acid, one might think a troll might have relatively inoffensive leavings, but in truth, a troll's droppings are vile to witness. Their lack of fastidiousness in consuming their prey leaves traces of half-digested hair, bone, scraps of ruined metal, and worse behind, and their bile is horrific and quite corrosive. Wiping has not been observed, but occasionally, an itch will be scratched with a rock or finger.>ogreLike a human's waste, only much, much larger, and thus messier. Diet varies wildly, but the quantity consumed is always immense, and so stools are predictably large in correlate. Wiping similarly varies based on cultural practices.—Liber Stercoris, A. Hitler
>>98497362Truly a learned man, a great scholar and gentleman of the arts! Bravo!
>>98497362Chaos warriors?Skaven?Vampires?
Do vampires shit blood sausages?
>>98497397aren't chaos warriors literally sealed in their armor ?
Has any mini ever grown on you by playing it or painting it?For me it is these guys. I used to be a total war tourist until I took the plunge into hobbying 2 years ago. I used to hate empire archers because they felt like knock off Bret peasents, but after painting and playing them they are probably my favorite empire unit besides Empire Knights and Great Canons.
>>98497397>Skavensame as beastmen
Three more Swordsmen done, including my unit Champion! 12 out of 19 completed already!What are you guys working on?
>>98497374You flatter me.>>98497397>Chaos warriors?I will not speak on the fell men of the north in polite company.>Skaven?Surely you jest? Though, if some form of rat-like beastman were to exist, I suppose its scatological habits would be common to the other forms of beastmen.>Vampires?Vampires do not defecate or urinate... so I am told. Good evening.
>>98497427this here skeleton
>>98497405Vampires don't eat, they don't shit.
>>98497471drinking alcohol will not just make you piss but if it is undigested it will also comes out as a loose stoolwhy shouldn't it be the same with blood ?
Alright we're getting there, one more evening and I think I'll be done
>>98497424Since I've only ever bought models to paint(and therefore only gotten ones I would like to look at) not really. I think WHFB models are just pleasant all around though, the only ones I don't like off the top of my head are some of the older Lizardmen models and some of the Bret models since their whole range is(was) so old. I'd still take them over new stuff, though. I'm sure I'm not saying anything new but there's a lot of TOW models that just become so busy and so action move oriented that I feel like they end up looking like shit in an army. I like this Archaon model as a setpiece model example because he stands out but he isn't like overshadowing everyone. Just doing a commander charge pose and not on a 20 foot tall dragon spewing fire
>>98497486Nah they absorb the blood at 98% efficiency, the 2% waste is expelled through expiration
>>98497309I think the value is the buttload of bits you get from the kit.
>>98497512balinI will say with such a dark scheme going light bases might be a good idea
>>98497427Working on the ”driver” for my baggage train
Tips for how to grow my local community? Austin , like most places, is dominated by 40k, which I also play. But I appreciate the depth of TOW. There's almost zero AoS so it's not as simple as "put your existing models on square bases". It doesn't help that GW charges full price for old models.
>>98497738The plan is bright lava bases with maybe some OSL if I can manage that
This is Kallen Kōzuki from code geass how dangerous would she be in Warhammer fantasy given a proper weapon and probably some armor.https://codegeass.fandom.com/wiki/Kallen_K%C5%8Dzuki#Abilities
>>98497794Play the game, I've found at my local club that 40k people started to hover around the table as TOW is being played. People genuinely get interested hearing others having a blast dealing with all the quirky situations that arise from the game. You can then probably entice them with mentioning battle march for a lower barrier to entry, it also helps that GW recently added some more flavour to battle march with the chaos of war(I think it's called that) chart before matches for a little extra spice.
>>98497767Still topshelf as always Beastbro
>>98497840why is she wearing that ?
>>98497944 Undercover missing into a dangerous Crime Boss crime territory. The dangerous Crime Boss was the guy she beat up at the beginning.
>>98497143Damn. Unfortunately searching for Varus doesn't turn up anything. Or well, it does, but not the dwarves. Thanks anyway. Give me that acronym if you can.
>>98497794Battle March in the same way Spearhead AoS did wonders, although Spearhead did zero to get people to play actual AoS games, but Battle March is a good stepping stone. Too bad about those box prices though.Overall hosting games and letting people borrow armies would be good.
>>98497840I just saw the original, she's actually wearing a full bodice just like real playboy bunniesyou put a filter or used some AI shit, didn't you ?
>>98498358Does that safe for TV version anymore uncensored version it's a pretty common thing with anime.
>>98497455Very nice, real colourful too.
>Lo, that the sky darkens and the Sun hides its face from us, and sorcery and evil magicks are afoot! And with them, men clad in iron and fur descend from the north to bring ruin and damnation in the name of their unholy masters. Four they are, and four they have always been, and though the names may change, their nature does not! You shall soon see their true faces! But, despair not, for the forces of all that is good and right will not falter, and be it the Dragon, the Man or the Bear, will always stand firm against the darkness that threatens to consume us! So say I in this most dark of hours, take heed!Sounds like Kislev, more Cathay and possibly empire getting some updates
>>98498564where does that come from ?
>>98498564If it's the Great War against Chaos, I'd say High Elves, The Empire and Kislev.
>>98498564source ?
>>98498564>Four they are, and four they have always been, and though the names may change, their nature does not! You shall soon see their true faces! See ? I told you all that god-aligned upgrade kits are coming for TOW chaos warriors but you all laughed at me !
>>98498646gw will never do that for TOW, they want khorne/slaanesh, etc... armies to remain an AoS thing
>>98498564>>Lo, that the sky darkens and the Sun hides its face from us, and sorcery and evil magicks are afoot! And with them, men clad in iron and fur descend from the north to bring ruin and damnation in the name of their unholy masters. Four they are, and four they have always been, and though the names may change, their nature does not! You shall soon see their true faces! But, despair not, for the forces of all that is good and right will not falter, and be it the Dragon, the Man or the Bear, will always stand firm against the darkness that threatens to consume us! So say I in this most dark of hours, take heed!Reminds me of the opening of prince igor
>>98498421Lol the pasties is 100% an edit, very well done though.
Are the new Warriors of Chaos kit designed to have multiple of the unique bodies (Like musician, Standard bearer, champion) so you can have them be those or just regular models?
do you think that TOW will have vampire counts and if yes, then what do you expect for the new models/kits ?
>>98498861Calvary sold in groups of 5 called Barrow Knights. Can come built with hand weapons or lance, but have shields either way. Tooter and flag waver available but no champion.
I said i would, so here they are. Get them while they're fresh.And remember to share freely with others.https://gofile.io/d/z6oPe2eV
>>98499067NTA who wanted it, but good work!
>>98499101so is there a singular book of grudges or does each clan keep there ownAnd what do I need to do to get my picture in it?
>>98497512Fuck it I couln't sleep so I painted.I still need to finish the beard and I might also touch up the inside of the blunderbuss to look more orange
>>98499132You should be proud of your work
>>98499139Thanks lad
>>98499067Good shit man
I'm playing my first game of beastmen tomorrow and taking everything I've collected so far, just a question about dogs. If I'm running 20 for screening and flank protection/harass would they be better in 4 groups of 5 or just run them in 10s. I expect them to delay threats and die, or be ignored and run down back line. For 120 points i don't particularly care if they get blended in a turn so long as they give me time to react
>>9849918710s. 5s can't anchor cause 5 wounds is too easy to lose. If you only want them to chase off fleeing targets 5s would do it, so maybe a 10 and 2 5s. But I've never needed the chase down with beastmen.Especially cause lots of beastmen units hit frenzy and chase anyway whether you want them too or not.
>USPS finally delivers my Chaos Warriors>sit down with them and my bits box to make some Nurgle dudes>sudden lack of motivationWhy
>>98492983> Favourite Bulls, stock standard.Turko-Mongol looking Ogres with giant falchions/scimitars and iron fists. Cheap for Ogres, but when used in adequate numbers and aggression; obviously an oncoming freight train. Not the most resilient or steadfast of troops... But every round they stay in combat, is a brutal, grinding retaliation of attacks and stomp hits.Fast, hard hitting and they look cool as fuck.> Least favourite Though vital for charge redirection, Sabretusks... Big cats, I find them aesthetically boring and their purpose is to be charged and redirect the charging unit.Gorgers and Yhettis can fuck off too.
>>98499128Each clan got one, even each family, or individual really. Grudges and settling it is quite a Dwarf thing.Your Dwarfs lack beards, or at they beardlings with their mom?
>>98499216The high was waiting for them, not doing the actual work, since you'Ve done a good part of the whole deal (buying the model), let's say a third of it, you've already fallen inot a 'job's a gud'un' mentality that makes you loose drive towards making and painting the models.
>>98499228>>98499128https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2dYBjR4IMVs
>>98499237That’s a pretty good point. I will force myself to build at least 5 of them after work.
>>98499204Thanks for the advice, just finished building them now I'm onto the bestigors before bed
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>>98499067Thank you anon.>>98496765If you ever feel like it, consider sharing those files. I think they'd complement those of the anon above rather well.
>>98495665I hate the automatonsAnyone who wants rune golems or whatever is speaking with a dick in they mouth
>>98499383Yeah I hate dwarves too
>>98499387A. its cogfop rubbishB. its something from the distant past, and undermines (pun aside) the established history of the dwarfs as a race longing after past grandeur
>>984993961.Don’t care, you have no point. 2. Who gives a shit. Dwarves being a disgraced race has always been a dogshit trope, and Warhammer does it the worst compared to all other media with them in it. Even elder scrolls with them all being scarcely in it are executed in a much more effective manner than warhammer does with their literal cucked dwarves.
