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Alot of my friends who used to play older editions came back during 10thI think the golden age of 40k really is right now boys
>New Ork datasheets:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/s1rads41/ork-datasheets-first-look-bigger-tougher-ghazghkull/
NEW LEAK
>>98502789>TQHow we feeling about the new ork datasheets?
>>98502799You cheeky little punk lol
Going on a trip for a few days and wanted to at least get a start on my collage entry before then, so the Kommandos were put on hold for an evening. I actually got a lot more done than I thought given that I was trying some new formulas out and I think it's all working well.What's your WIP?
>>98502812Lethal hits on shootas is still retarded. I'm seeing lots of things that should be USRs but aren't for some reason even after 11th added more stuff to the USRs. We're still stuck with the retarded AoS formatting for datasheets which will always be inferior.
>>98502810come on dude everybody knows this shit is done on purpose as free advertising
>>98502823Love the bullets with the blue
>>98502810This leak is meaningless, it just confirms how retardedly limited the kit is and that it lacks half the weapons it should.
>>98502802It's hard to imagine anyone taking orks seriously as a villain faction when their biggest, baddest champion is a retard who needs a grot to do the thinking for him. Plus, he looks stupid. Gun hand and power klaw? Ork minis look so fucking atrocious and lame
>>98502799But my dreams told me that everybody stopped playing during 10th
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98502833>come on dude wrestling is like totally fakeI know lol lighten up and have sone fun with it
My dick is small, my balls non-existant and my anus is as tight as fort Knox. Which army is right for me?
>>98502812As an Ork player I am thrilled that Big Shootas got buffed and that 20 boy units get 2 nobs. I run a greentide list
>>98502842I have a personal petty hatred of corporate ads especially ever since they started blaring every time I use the gas pump so no I won't
>>98502844>Aussie posting early
>>98502802I got Ghaz and 6 meganobz because I loved the combo and now I can't use it.
>>98502844Tyranids.
Oh shit is ratfag on vacay? Watcha doin' ratfag?
>>98502844space wolves
>>98502858Just run them next to each other anyways cause he still buffs them with his aura
>>98502854well get ready to be increasingly pissed off your entire life friend
>>98502865Do you ever get bored of replying to yourself?
>>98502844Same here. I picked imperial guard as my army.Gonna use wga the damned for traitor guard.I hope the Royal Mail won’t lose my order of minis.
>>98502858>+1 to hit and wound to Meganobz is not good
>>98502789>+1 to hit and wound aurawe 8th/9th edition again
>>98502870I know. I expect to be accepted as a daemon prince of Khorne by the time I reach my deathbed
>>98502872Do you ever get bored of being so easily identifiable while ban evading?
>>98502872
get a life already dude
>>98502884That is if I don't have a rage induced aneurism when Coke goes through with making it so I can't look at the night sky without seeing their logo
>>98502874>roll to charge with Ghaz>success>roll to charge with Meganobz>failI don't like this one bit.
>>98502903just git good at positioning bro
>>98502903>>roll to charge with Meganobz>>failLiterally skill issue
Armies with this feel?
>>98502865Kinda funny that they've become the dedicated sucker faction of /40kg/.
>>98502878>friendly orks within 6"does that mean that Ghaz is affected by his own aura? fucker is wounding everything in the game on 2s
>>98502920Yup
>>98502863I've just got a long weekend, so I'm gonna aim to at least get these guys primed and base coated.
>>98502919been that way since 2011
>>98502918Imperial guard unironically.I’m still looking for a paint that matches the fatigues of those aot soldier uniforms.Also anime made me like Germany and those dkok soldiers and their proxies are looking more tempting.
>>98502918
>>98502919They haven't tho
>>98502919They most definitely have
>>98502859They swarmed Macragge is what they did! Space bugs are cool, and in this house the Swarm Lord is a hero. End of story!
>>98502918>the indomitable nonhuman spiritOrks or Nids
>>98502844>Small dickCraftworld Eldar>Small dick, no ballsUltramarines>Small dick, no balls, tight asshole.Tau Empire.
>>98502937No?
>>98502895If he is the solid chris of this place then who is the liquid chris? Or the pickle man?
>>98502931I'm going to hire a geoguessr master to find you so I can kill you.
>>98502931Nice my dude. Good luck to you.
>>98502954If anything Eldar should have the biggest dicks in the setting
>>98502955That has the vtranny on it, it's tainted and so is everyone that posts in the collage.
>>98502918>Guard when they have 41% winrate>Our faction is unplayably bad and GW needs to address this immediately so I can win without changing my list in any way>Eldar/DEldar when they have 30% winrate>Eh, it could be worse. We will just adapt like we always do and find another way to play
>>98502935>still looking for a paint that matches the fatigues of those aot soldier uniformsThat's just khaki.Pro Acryl khaki is probably the closest to that specific shade for the least amount of effort.
>>98502970>DEldar when they have 30% winrateftfy
>>98502969Still salty about being the only one banned from it I take it
>>98502966The Eldar are callbacks to the ancient greek days when big dicks were considered uncivilised. Unlike ultramarines however they still have working balls.But both their assholes are ravaged because they're the fruitiest factions in the franchise.
>>98502989>when big dicks were considered uncivilisedfunny how if you think about it blacked is spiritually one of the most ancient forms of degeneracy
>>98502966Sissy mon-keigh will hate you for speaking the truth.And daily reminding that Kyganil is only one normal male in entire SoB range
>>98502969you have nomodels, you are worthless
>>98502975Thanks!Now how about the brown paint of the survey corps jackets? I’m not sure if it is steel legion drab but if it is hopefully there is an equivalent from AK I can buy at the lgs.>still waiting for stahly to cover the afv, air and figures collection of Ak paints.
>>98502966>eldar can't reproduce because their cocks are too big to fit in their women
Are the imperial stormtrooper guard army going to be squatted any time soon?Lately felt the itch to paint some. Maybe a custom one out of third party models. Oddly enough are the kasrkin the “standard look” like how the cadians are for most guard regiments when the stormtroopers aren’t working for the inquisition?
>>98503019Scions got their own kill team a year or two back, so likely no.
>>98502970Nah, when eldar have a 30% winrate they just wait patiently for the next codex/dataslate to make them broken again. Eldarfags are usually oldfags who've been collecting a while. They know GW can't go one edition without giving them a meta build.
>>98500812they're gonna fix them and make Votann elite feeling right? They're gonna make Hearthkyn not literal dogshit and remove the reliance on a killteam box as well, right? please?
>remove individual model and wargear costs to shrimplify the game>introduce an app that, aside from the nigger aids subscription fees, is actually quite useful>the kind if app that can track model counts, wargear on each model, and points costs>refuse to roll back shrimplification, forcing the game to be filled with asanine rules and stats everywhereThey quite literally have 0 excuse anymore, none. This one simple change would solve half the problems this game has at the moment.
>>98503019>Oddly enough are the kasrkin the “standard look” like how the cadians are for most guard regiments when the stormtroopers aren’t working for the inquisition?no this is what your standard stormtrooper looks like now.and no you don't really have to worry about them going away. maybe one day the scions will get a new kit more in line with the aquilons. unreleated but I'm kinda angry we don't have more kits for them. its been over a decade and still no sentinel, no sniper teams, no shotgunners etc etc
>>98503019No. Scions even received a detachment that makes them battleline while Kasrkin are kept limited.Kasrkin are a uniquely cadian organization while scions are generic stormtroopers, but there's nothing to say that other guard regiments can't have specialist troops like that, they just won't be as famous.
>>98502895>>98502957You anons have no idea how much I want the CWC to get into warhammer 40k and start up his antics again in mixing his horse cartoon, hedgehog and dimensional merge stuff with warhammer 40k. He might say he is a lost primarch or emperor but now empress. But he can be unpredictable like that. What army of 40k would CWC likely pick? Or what are the most likely candidates?I don’t want to be the one to introduce him to warhammer 40k though let someone else do it.
>>98503037I would really like more Tempestus, a whole subfaction wave like what the Death Korps got would actually make start collecting guard.
>>98503034>shrimplify the gameSome are saying its too simple now tho but I agree with you.
>>98503054Let's keep the e-celeb nonsense to a minimum
>>98503043All the career regiments have elite formations. The krieger have grenadiers for example.
So is the new Trazyn novel fully out? Anyone got the full spoiler? I heard our boy Creed is back?
>>98503034>>introduce an app that, aside from the nigger aids subscription fees, is actually quite useful>>the kind if app that can track model counts, wargear on each model, and points coststhat's worse than the free fanmade apps since it has shit like manually requiring you to select each gun instead of just giving the default ones and not separating the non battleline sheets out at all some you have to scroll through sometimes massive lists to find things
>>98502856some of us are unfortunately up pre-dawn for workyou will never be free of us truly, some even post in plain sight indistinguishable from your average poster until it is too late
>>98503028>>98503037>>98503043Alright thanks anons!Now I gotta look for scans/faithful remakes of the current scions because I just like the cartoony heroic scale. Just preference.And wanting to mix the old remakes of the imperial stormtroopers with the current scions to have a nice mix of new and old.
>>98503065And they're not as famous.
>>98503005Steel Legion Drab is too "dark brown" for what you're after, you want a bright "reddish brown."Try Vallejo Red Leather for that jacket.Otherwise, try Army Painter's "Dryad Brown."
>>98502812power creep is fine if appropriately pointed, smaller armies would be extremely welcome, but the amount of different abilities and keywords is a worrying direction for the game to return to.
>>98503067No word on Creed but Trazyn has the last of the Croneswords.
>>98503108>power creep is fine if appropriately pointedI would argue otherwise. That the game would benefit from less lethality and units being able to do less things so that the few things they can do can be more strategic.
>>98503093Thanks!I’ll look into dryad brown as it is available at the lgs and I fear the Vallejo bubbling hasn’t been fixed.I want to try the true metallics or metal color but I fear the bubble has tainted them all.
>>98503113kind of a dick move by trazyn tbqhthe eldar didn't even fuck over the necrons when they could have if they wanted to
>>98503108>power creep is fine if appropriately pointedbut then it's not power creep, it's appropriately pointed power. It could be considered power consolidation at best
>>98503119In the past 2 decades of using Vallejo paints on historical minis both for display and wargaming, I've never experienced the "Vallejo bubbling" that is so oft-claimed online.Yes I know "anecdote does not disprove the general statement" but even through multiple batches spread over 2 decades I've never had it, so I wonder how much of it is just people being shit painters and blaming their paints.
>>98503120Well they shoulda. 60 million years of dicking around doing nothing of worth.
>>98503113>Trayzn, the dude basically all of the necrons hate for being an asshole, has the mcguffin that the Ynnari, who basically all of the other eldar hate for being assholeslel
>>98503062He is one of your lolcow peers. Rejoice, you finally have someone to relate to!
>>98503132I mean they had fully automated luxury space communism with magic and reincarnationpretty hard to care about some sleeping robots at that point
Heh.
>>98503113>>98503120Better in his vault than in Slaanesh's realm. I say it's a win for the Eldar actually. A more solvable problem.
>>98503131I’m talking about the new formula Vallejo. A lot of anons reported it. But I think the lid was blown off when that German paint reviewer stahly reported bubbles in his video.As far as I know Vallejo never addressed this. And anons reported that supposedly the pre-reformulation acrylics didn’t have this problem. I’m not sure if skill issue or downgrade in acrylic quality or both. I know bubbles can appear on all paints but Vallejo now supposedly is too easy to the point where it is better to switch away from what I’ve seen.
>>98503145A museum heist would be pretty dope as a story.
>>98503141You bore me and everyone else with these type of low brow and uninspired comments.
>>98503145Anon, it puts the Eldar back at square one after having made no progress. Initial rumors were that Fulgrim had it and that Craftworlds were gearing up to hunt him down. Now Trazyn supposedly has it.This means one of the two swords is a fake, yet both are being held by popular named characters who the Eldar have zero chance of beating.So either>The Eldar lose to Fulgrim and don't get the sword>The Eldar lose to Trazyn and don't get the sword>Both are actually fake and Eldar are double fucked
>>98503173>Initial rumors were that Fulgrim had it and that Craftworlds were gearing up to hunt him down.Memelore btw
>>98503126boyz getting stronger is power creeping. horde units behaving like 10th edition elites is power creeping.
>>98503173>the actual last Cronesword is the Emperor's Sword all along>Yvraine asks Guilliman to hand it over and he refuses, kills her, and the Ynnari disband permanently
>>98503173there is a small chance that trazyn just gives it to them in exchange for some other plot macguffin
>>98503179>memeloreNta but is this lore that is speculation that gets parroted to the point where it is believed as fact? I’m not sure if a term for this exists.I think lore discussion would be better if anons humorously cite lore observations as being from their asses or worse when asking for sources on lore.Has the alpha legion decloaking armor become believed to be canon by secondaries? I want to know what the fake lores believed to be real by secondaries are and make a big deboooking meme. Especially when it is disappointing.
>ynnari never get the last crone sword>ynnari get the last crone sword but can't awaken ynnead>ynnari awaken ynnead but ynnead jobs to slaanesh anywaysWhich one would be most humiliating? That's the one James will choose.
>>98503151I know, I gave the modifier of time to say I had experience on both sides of the "old/new formula."Even with the "new" stuff, I haven't had issues. I don't know, I might just be really lucky on my Vallejo paints or have some particular climate that lets it just work.
>>98503202The most common (and cringiest) memelore is Orks rewriting reality with their beliefs. Such as an ordinary stick shooting bullets if you can convince an Ork it's a gun.>In reality the Ork just picks up the stick and bashes you over the skull with it because it's obviously a stick, you git
>>98503192if they're costed appropriately for their new power then definitionally it is not power creep
Armies for this feel
>>98503208The last one, of course.
>>98503218windrider host eldardeldar boat spamork speedwaagh
>>98503196>last cronesword is emperor’s swordYou joke anon but gw might do it as a subvert expectations plot twist meme.This will be a coin toss of:>headsGorillaman says no and fighting ensues over it and Yvraine remains gorillaman’s bedroom toy in the eyes of the meme fans.>tailsGorillaman says yes and plots happen and Yvraine remains Gorillaman’s bedroom toy in the eyes of the meme fans.>lands on side Gorillaman works with Yvraine and they smite chaos and then Yvraine canonically rewards big gorilly by being his bedroom toy as fanservice for the meme fans.
Armies for this feel?
>>98503218Space Wolves
so is the Visarch a cuck or what
>>98503235Also Space Wolves
>>98503067I have the book and finished it. I can answer questions. Regarding your spoiler He is never named but he's obviously him. He gets freed from the museum to fight a chaos incursion and he's having the time of his life (pic related). The first thing he does is asking for a coat. It's however barely a cameo, he doesn't do anything plot relevant.
Horus should come back as a good guy and the Emperor should become the dark king. It would be kino and you could sell a Horus model. Did I say you could sell a Horus model for $250? Because you totally could.
>>98503210I vaguely remember one theory that the water quality strongly affects the Vallejo paints. It is probably a weed pipe theory but it is funny to me because of Angel giraldez’s little Spanish water meme.He is a Vallejo shill but he is a good painter so it doesn’t matter to me.
>>98503239close, a simp
Post models.
>>98503239Literally yes. She left him to go be a Corsair and eventual Succubus in Commoragh, and was specifically one of Lady Malys' 'servants' before the Ynnead event. In Hand of Darkness he even snaps at her for it.
>>98503218>>98503235>>98503255It is always the imperial guard. Always.Even when it isn’t.
What about Armies for this feel?
>>98503245Ah fuck just a fanservice then. Thanks anon. Good to know so I wouldn't hype myself up.
>>98503239he would have to have ever actually made it into Yvraine's bed in the first place to qualify as a cuckhe is something worse, god forgive me for saying this blighted word, but he is a simp
>>98503262>malys has a lesbian haremso does drazhar get his dick wet or is he a sexless sword autist
>>98503255Skaven.
>>98503173I can tell you that Trazyn believes that the one he has is real. It doesn't exclude completely the fake possibility, but it makes it less probable.
>>98503274Drazhar's male body was killed by Jain Zar. His body is now a female Klaivex who reclaimed his armor and put it on and got possessed.
>>98503274all sword autists are sexless
>>98503274Drazhar is a very important figure who makes sure that all the lesbian deldar meet their minimum dicking-down quotient.
I haven't paid any attention to 11th because I hated 10th so much and people were saying it was more of the same, but I gave it a quick look and it's somehow even worse. am I reading these detachment rules right and you literally can't even play retaliation cadre in a 1000 point game?
>>98503274Anon Drazhar is a possessed armour. He doesn't have a dick.
>>98503279>His body is now a female KlaivexBrooks?
>>98503282>am I reading these detachment rules rightNo. You can still use 3DP detachments in 1000 point games, you just can't do a 2+1
>>98503282No you're not reading them right you clueless Taufag piece of shit
>>98503293Thorpelore. He's the one who wrote that awful Blood of the Phoenix box fluff where all the Ynnari, including the Yncarne, got bodied by an illusion of Shalaxi.
>>98503271If it interest you there is still a human character that is basically the third protagonist just after Trazyn and Orikan. it's Inquisitor Valeria
>>98503318Wait didn't she die way before cadia? Also where can I read it?
>>98503293Nah that's just how Phoenix Lords work. Technically the 'body' disintegrates in the armor though how fast that happens is questionable, since it's only really happened once.Phoenix Lords are surprisingly not major jobbers, but have been shown both to bleed normally or not have proper bodies.Bit up to interpretation.
Only Maugan Ra has his original body. He's built different.
>>98503328Unfortunately I have the physical book, and I am not scanning it when the e-pub is coming out in a few day. Once it does someone will probably post it here. she got shot by Greyfax, but Trazyn has her in stasis with time stopped as the bolt detonates inside her chest. He needs Orikan to revive her and he basically kill her a few times before succeeding.
>>98503332I think the only depiction where the body 'disintegrated' was Path of the Warrior, but I always interpreted that sequence as metaphorical, describing the overwriting of Korlandril's soul from his own perspective as his mind was consumed by Karandras. Normal Exarchs still have a body in the armor, and every other depiction of Phoenix Lords (including Path of the Eldar, when Karandras is slain by that dreadnought) states that they have a very mortal body under the armor and if that body is killed, they're reduced to a suit of armor like any other Exarch.
>>98503261
>>98503251>>98503262>>98503272god damn it, the model is cool but this is close to ruining it for me. I'll just pretend it's a completely different person in cool armour with a sword
>>98503293Bullshit, all PLs are dust in armout
>>98502802>>98502812>Killa Kans weapons are rolled into a single profile>But lost a foot in range down to 24" tops>Toughness 7 now and can move 8 inches>But the ability just gives +1 to hit if you're fighting something with 6 or less toughness instead of a roll for a chance to give yourself a buff/take some mortals woundsI don't know how I feel about this, the weapon profile and ability changes are 100% shrimplification, but at least I don't need to worry about loading them all up with rokkits.
>>98503375>>Killa Kans weapons are rolled into a single profileOn one hand it usually sucks, but on the other instead of giving you a single profile like they did for Nobs they gave you three different options you have all the time and you can choose what to use as needed.
>>98503367If it makes you feel any better, he gets his revenge on Yvraine in the Ynnari book when he's driven insane with murderous rage by Khaine's first avatar and decides he's had enough of serving a bitch that doesn't love him. She accepts she did him dirty and frankly doesn't deserve him as her bodyguard and champion and lets him cut her down (she didn't stand a chance in a swordfight anyways).
>>98503366nice
>>98503367Visarch and Yvraine actually share a close bond with each other, he codex-vise leave his craftworld just to grab her pussy back
>>98503367Not gonna lie I feel this way too about my warhammer 40k models with lore attached to them in the same way I felt about bionicles growing up.If the lore wasn’t that good alongside my favorite color I didn’t get the model.If I had the birthday/Xmas money to get it as parents could afford but wanted to teach me the value of spending wisely. Which failed because I have bought 40k stuff under the “live a little” belief.
>>98503405Their bond is highly strained by the fact he adores her but she barely even pays attention to him however. They used to be close as a teacher and student when she was a Dire Avenger in his shrine, but after she left Biel-Tan she stopped giving a fuck about him and he seethes about it to this day. He went to Commorragh to creep on her from a distance while she was a Succubus in the arena, getting trains of cock run on her every day
>>98503385Kek, she revives though right? Still funny, actually very fitting of an Eldari romance. Should be like a Spanish telenovela with even more drama. Considering how emotional Eldar are supposed to be.
I love cucks, that’s why space wolf characters are so endearing to me.
>>98503415She resurrects yes, and after he's killed her the Visarch feels much better because he's had his say and proceeds to break Khaine's control and go back to serving her.
>>98503419Does that make space wolves jewish-coded?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
That's a pretty shameless samefag.
> Introduce new rules to help stop armies getting shot to pieces in T1/2 with Hidden and Cover> Ignores Cover is piss easy for most armies and doesn't really require any setup for mostWe're really going to have to go back to rules that say "Ignore those other rules that ignore this models rules" aren't we?
>>98503414>Their bond is highly strained by the fact he adores her but she barely even pays attention to him however.
>>98503442>We're really going to have to go back to rules that say "Ignore those other rules that ignore this models rules" aren't we?yeah it's 9th edition all over again. Except worse because 11th has inflated weapon profiles to match inflated T and W values, so it's all even more fucked on the balance front
>>98503456Read the first Ynnari novel (Ghost Warrior) and get back to me on that anon.
>>98502789Can anybody identify the not!warhammer 40k third party imperial guard castellan looking miniature of this post >>98503389 please?>the thread exchange thereWould this /40kg/ general get worse if jannies ban 40k threads with this general being the exception?I’m honestly not sure if the “bot trained for non general 40k threads” is real or an autist but if autist and the idea of warhammer 40k threads being general only goes through would this place get better or worse?
Not gonna lie all that stuff about Yvraine and the Visarch is pretty lame. I get wanting to embellish the characters beyond "I hate chaos" but making it into an emotionally immature dysfunctional soap-opera isn't the way to go....
>>98503473>making it into an emotionally immature dysfunctional soap-opera isn't the way to goOh boy don't look at the Horus Heresy then
>>98503467Why are you linking some actual fucking schizos ramblings about ai. Go touch grass you freak.
>>98503482Nta but I’m not sure if BL is good or not.It might be mediocre compared to regular fantasy novel stuff. I wonder if the writers of BL books only care about BL books in the way workers only want to reach acceptable bare minimum and hope their author name means readers will look at their other works they actually care about so hopefully BL book sales trickle down into the book sales they actually care about.It can be hard to tell.
l like orks :D
>>98503466Sorry goy, but codex >>>>>>>>>> cancelled blslop series
>>98503498>Nta but I’m not sure if BL is good or notBL is not a guy. It has good authors mediocre authors and bad authors, just like it has good books, mediocre books and bad books.
>>98503485I primarily want to know what the model in that picture is. The exchange made me curious about ai bots unleashed on /tg/ to generate or respond to 40k threads.But I am worried if the autist actually goes through with that irc suggestion and it goes through.
how are you supposed to use valkyrie transports? they can only carry 12 guys but a regular squad has 10 and a command squad has 4 so they don't fit. are you supposed to use them with commisars?
>>98503456>Who are you to have such knowledgeYeah, really.
>>98503435Can you feel a Kheradruakh Mandrake Lord model?
>>98503503That's not from a codex, that's from Gathering Storm lmao
>>98503511you don't use them lol aren't they the same costs as a fucking dorn? they are overpriced, underarmed and what can they transport that a 15 man scion + scion cmd squad can't deepstrike and kill?
>>98503506I meant BL as an umbrella term for the authors. My bad. I’ll admit I may not have much room to shit on contracted authors that just go for the guaranteed source of income even if it isn’t their passion. If it is the case for some black library authors it depends on how much they “care” about giving their best beyond meeting deadlines and meeting serviceable levels to stay hired by GW to write warhammer books. I still wonder how long it will be before a writer makes a novel that shows the Eldar not taking catching more beatings than a boxer training punching bag.>>98503467That’s worrisome no matter where this goes if the “nothing ever happens” meme doesn’t make an exception here.
>>98503533 me>I’ll admit I may not have much room to shit on contracted authorsI am not a contracted author. The reason I said that was because I enjoyed the logh manga that completed.That manga and anime still make me wonder if the warhammer 40k battle fleet gothic ships can or actually do fight in flight formations like in logh.Or at least try to before it all descends into disorganized dogfights in space.Do the big imperial ships of 40k fight like that?
>>98503508>>98503467It looks like a custom sculpt of Minka Lesk 3d printed. Try to search for the STL, not for the miniature.
>>98503508AI will probably be spammed here once they finally train it to break the Captcha and it's more accessible for some dumbass to do it.You sound like a nice guy, my recommendation for next time is to not engage with a fucking lunatic like that. Nothing will ever come from it, unless you are shitposting him which in that case, nice.As for the STL I got no idea, but that also doesn't matter.
>>98503511Transports for guard are 12 so you can fit 2 HWS (each is worth 6) in them, at least that's the most obvious mathing of it to me.You're meant to use Castellans/Commissars in transports, yes. The final space can also fit a Tech Priest, but that's more meant for Chimera spam to sit on a midpoint keeping the 2-3 Chimeras around it alive.The Valkyrie isn't a great unit right now, it's way too expensive for what it gives and how weak it is on-table. I'd rather have 2 Chimeras, which coincidentally is 10 points less than a Valkyrie, and let the deepstrike duty go to Recon Squads or Ratlings.
>>98503034they never had an excuse to begin withyou should not ever be having problems adding up a bunch of double digit numbers
>>98503532but I need them for a vietnam themed army
>>98503552That might help. Thank you!Does anybody else just out of curiosity want to see what the kneepad cadians would look like with previous cadian heroic gorilla scale proportions? If say I somehow found good scans of the stls or actually good remakes of them in the same or different poses, what would be the methods in Blender to resize the limbs, heads, torsos and dare I even say. Their guns to old school heroic scale?Also are the previous cadian proportions even worse than the first metal cadian proportions?>>98503557>you seem niceI’m probably not as I act nice to just put in the act to not be a disturbance especially at the local game store and lord knows I’ve been devilish and cheeky here many times. Was the bants even good from that anon? It didn’t seem like Aussie bants but it got a grin out of me.The mention of AI does make the abominable intelligence 40k thing look more closer to reality as malicious ai in real life will do things big time if they aren’t already.
>I get nervous when people ask me about the lore behind my custom csm warbandI have some basics, but I’m still worried I’ll sound like a sperg
>>98503622Don't worry about going into depth, just give a brief outline of who they are and what they do, if someones interested they'll ask more questions about your warband.
>>98503622Just keep it short and simple anon. I have an incredibly autistic fantasy project for the old world where its based off of the last of the hohenbach line.If anyone asks I just say he is the heir of the drakwald emperors who's been giving his runefang back from middenheim in agreement to fight for Wilhelm.Don't need to explain how or why he's doing it.
>>98503601its a long roadwhen you're buying valks
>>98503622>when people ask me about the lore behind my custom csm warbandI'll take things that have never happened for 400, Alex
>>98503622My dudes? They're basically epic chaos dudes who don't afraid of anything... yeah...
>>98503659Should have said “for 40,000” because this is a warhammer 40k thread.Missed opportunity.I sometimes wonder why threads mimicking and making fun of Reddit upvote farming lgs drama horror threads aren’t a recurring thing here.I remember it happening once and I made a silly post but it probably wasn’t as funny as I thought it was.I can try looking for it in the archives if you want.
>>98503659I've had people ask me the theme of my army before. Really not that insane of a question, I've asked when it is a very unique army. If this has never happened to you, or either paint like shit, are a pain to be around, or possibly both.
>>98503622just remember to keep your loredumps to a couple sentences. >Name of /yourdudes/, what they do and why>Name of /yourdudes leader/, his goal and personalityOnly offer more, like backstory, if people ask. Compartmentalize it, don't just spill everything in one uninterrupted stream. That's the difference between casual conversation and a 'tism dump. Believe me, people know right away when it's a 'tism dump because they hear it all the time from 40k fans.>Have you heard of the Horus Heresy? Well you see, it all started when the God Emperor of Mankind, er, wait hold on let me explain who the God Emperor of Mankind is>So the God-Emperor of Mankind was a shamanic psyker in prehistoric Anatolia who... actually wait let me explain what psykers are>So psykers are like psychics, except instead of their powers being innate they come from the Warp... wait I should explain what the Warp is>So anyway, the Warp is an alternate dimension of infinite energy full of daemons and evil gods... hold on let me digress a bit and explain what Chaos is>So Chaos is this force of evil emotions that want to corrupt everything with a soul and destroy the universe. They actually corrupted half the Primarchs, and... wait wait wait let me explain what Primarchs are>So Primarchs are superhuman demigods, but way bigger than the Custodes and Astartes, who are much smaller and weaker and dumber superhuman demigods... let me explain what Custodes and Astartes are actually
I just realised... is the mutant behind a lot of the sloppa posted itt? He's shown a lot of poor taste before. Is he behind a lot of these "armies for this feel?" *posts le quirky image, half of the time slop* posts, and that's what he's referring to when he says he quietly interacts with the thread?
>>98503670Nta but that last part is probably all me but mostly on the painting part.I don’t even try to be an asshole at the lgs but because I’m a turbo autist (might as well accept it) I just come across as annoying. I try to be my best and nicest though. Some friends have been made with our shared enjoyment of 40k.I think most lgs goers warmed up when I mentioned the armypainter wash with speedpaint medium mix and show a video of it. I don’t know why this seems to work but it happened twice.
>>98503659assuming the color scheme is unusual for the army (like standard csm using orange and blues), then its pretty common for people to ask if its meant to be a unique warband, and ask if there’s any lore behind them.
>>98503685>thread ruining topic(You)r obession with him makes you ALMOST as bad as him.Please fuck off and die.
>>98503685I feel like he’s too sensitive to not immediately combat people who make fun of those posts. most of the time when I’ve seen those posts made including when I make them any replies shitting on them are ignored or at least waved off. if that’s true though, good for him. its nice to see he has a lot of posts where he acts semi-normal even if a little low quality.
>>98503690I wouldn't dwell much on it. I'm a way better painter than my friend yet his army always got all the questions on display because mine was a boring AoS one and his was a super duper cool washed and drybrushed custodes.Also seen someone get relentlessly jerked off for lightning bolts on sloppily basecoated Night Lords.Not trying to be a painting snob, (I'm pretty mid) but even if you do paint well most casual fans won't notice.
>>98503679>>98503690 (me)I just remembered a joke about how if one cannot describe their job in x amount of words it isn’t a real job or a useful one.What’s the version of this but for 40k dudes to keep things running smoothly at the lgs and not coming across as a bad autist? A few sentences? What’s the maximum?
>>98503693Chilli out, he's not here yet. He hasn't even ruined a thread in a good while, the mods have been quicker about getting to him>>98503702True, good point
>>98503703I get it man. What matters the most is if you’re happy with /yourdudes/. That is usually the number one thing before everything else as far as I know.
>>98503511Guard squads can have two HQ dudes attached, you do the maths. That's the intended usage for them (other than just being a cool centrepiece model), the optimal usage as another anon said is probably just filling it with heavy weapons teams and doing fly-bys>>98503532Cringe post, sovlless WAAC mentality
>>98503659Half the guys I played with had several pages worth of lore for their factions. We also wrote short stories for eachother to read in general. Maybe you just aren't nerdy enough to know people like that.
>>98503511Are ogryns still very bulky and take up 3 slots? You should air drop a bunch of those into your enemies line.
>>98503745This happens all over tabletop gaming tbqh.>meet someone, bring up tabletop as a hobby>oh yeah I played DnD once but it wasn't for me...>proceeds to regale a tale of some friend of theirs behind a douchebag murderhobo, not taking the game seriously>can't relate because I've had the same group of nerdy mates since uni>all of us joke around a bit but get serious and in character when it comes to rp>all of us have deeper than surface level, backstoried characters, always
>>98503659>would you look at that, one of the people I’m playing with at this game store has a completely unique colour scheme for their army that doesn’t match any official chapters, legions, or warbands within the 40k canon>i won’t ask them about this at all because making small talk amongst people with the same interests as me is for fucking losers
>>98503274Drazhar is THE sexless sword autist. Fucking Perturabo has more game.
>>98503293Retard that happens to all phoenix lords. Except Maugan Chad cause he still has not been killed.
>>98503773Drazhar cut up Jain Zar which is more action than Perty has gotten
>>98503783Didn't know that he was a PL. My interest in deldar has been smashed.
How do I stop craving geneseed?
>>98503789Hot sauce.
>>98503789Conversion therapy
>>98503773>drazhar is autistic for swords>kheradruakh is autistic for skulls and his bedroom>Urien is autistic for surgeryI guess it's balanced out by Vect's sex boat and Lelith being a stacy whore but the Drukhari seem to have an alarming amount of autists
>>98503787He was the original PL of the striking scorpions but he got corrupted and his best student kicked him out and took his place
>>98503809Isn't it canon that they use drugs. I used to smoke meth when I was younger and it made me fixate on things like crazy.
>>98503809Reading Path of the Archon was pretty funny. Seeing Vect sitting in his fortress, staring at a hologram of Commorragh practically eating itself alive in the middle of a Dysjunction, and just rubbing his temples with exhaustion. Poor bastard is the only Dark Eldar with a functioning brain and a semblance of normalcy, and his sole job is to herd retarded cats who blindly punch holes in the Webway trying to kill him for keeping them all from killing themselves.
>>98503809They used to literally have mechanics around having obsessions they develop in the quest for ever increasing novelty to feed their endless soul thirst. Once you have enough resources to forestall your damnation eternally, you basically have nothing left but to descend into the true depths of hedonism between fighting off jealous rivals.
>the descriptions for darkmech related shit across various bl novels is very consistent beyond just “regular admech but with spikes”They have to have an internal style guide somewhere, right?
>>985037082 sentences is what you get for describing your dudes. 3 if you include your warlord too.
>>98503827He's literally just Vetinari from Discworld who is a plot device of just enough fearful competency to keep an insane city functioning without imploding. Just with a bit more of a magnificent bastard evil streak than simple ruthless pragmatism
>>98503786Perty had that thing with his foster sister tho. Drazhar might as well be a killing machine, I don't even tgink he has the soul thirst like other DE he literally just murders people for the love of the game.
>>98503837I was literally about to make this exact post. Luv me Discworld.
>>98503845Perty would've been saved if Calliphone had just broken into his bedroom and ridden him while he slept
>>98503830Not really, besides the crazy shit that gets mentioned in the mechanicus HH novel and daemon engines really the only other thing to go off is the legion imperialis models
So for us that arent getting a codex soon, are we just going to get shit on by orks & marines who will have extreme power creep?
>>98503916Yes
Since Eldar have heightened emotions, could you really hurt one's feelings with a carefully crafted insult?
>>98503926Absolutely. Pretty sure the Harlequins have turned that into an artform.
>>98503926Probably, yes. But not if you're an Imperium citizen.
>>98502802Honestly the tankbusta one isn't too bad, they were hitting on 4s for the most part before due to +1 to hit against vehicles and monsters, and the pulsa rokkit can only target the one enemy unit now. The battleshock ability is a bit strong but
>>98503918Who here gsc and who here JUST?
Okay but what if eldar were like....really big....
Playing my Orks with their current rules feels a bit pointless with the new ones coming soon
>>98503963Wym you can just play the game and have fun
>>98503986I hate fun
>nuuu don't mention He Who Must Not Be Named, thread ruiner!>thread ded anywayWhat army did (you) start 40K with, anon?
What would be the best basing corpse for a necron overlord?
>>98504034Admech
>>98504033I started with Eldar anon, what about you? Also there's nothing wrong with being a little slow, surely you're doing something else and not just refreshing the thread over and over.
>>98504033He should just put a trip back onReally he should fuck off but whateverCSM
>>98504034A newcron or a guardsmen
>>98502989Has there ever been an era where having just billiard ball sized nuts and a micropenis were the ideal? Asking for a friend.
>>98504033orks (:D), and i still collect orks (:D)
>>98504044Catachans, back when they had a codex. Was halfway through making my army when they changed edition and sucked all the sovl out of guard, fun times.>unc still refreshesThreads have been auto refreshing for ages now>>98504046He should leave forever, perma is perma. What flavour of CSM tho?
>>98504033Eldar
>>98504065>Threads have been auto refreshing for ages nowOnly if you turn it on, but then again with how often people rush to make new threads it wouldn't surprise me if people don't actually know what the page number means or how threads die
>>98504065Night Lords
>>98504042Somehow forgot those niggies existed. Gonna check my LGS for 'em.
How do I make sure my marine chapter is not cringe
>>98504034Eldar
>>98504091Every chapter is cringe to someoneWhat makes it not cringe is your earnest enjoyment of them
>>98504091>marineIt's already cringe, anon.
>>98504091Build/paint Minotaurs.
>>98504091>>98504094I forgot to mention that this does not apply to space wolves which are fucking cringe
>>98504087>necron player forgot about admechHuh?
>>98504033The TauSide note, although we'll never get an animation like what Astartes got, and we'll never get the bolter porn or loretuber love of the Imperium, I have noticed a proliferation of drawfags making Tau stuff. Oddonion, Feyn, Pink Lizard, M0pan, various other works, etc.
>>98504033Voldemort
>>98504059>>98504065>>98504083Based>>98504044>>98504066Queercoded>>98504106Potentially based, depending on how much percentage of your army is mechs and if you bought any of the new uggo mechs>>98504108Offtopic
My friend is gonna be so angry when the Flamer changes reach Eldar and he remembers I love to spam Warlock Conclaves.
>>98504113They had me up till the Riptide, once they made battlesuits too big to fly they started to lose that armored core high-speed magic that I liked about them in the first place.
>>98504033Thousand Sons.
>>98504091Have them kill Blood Angels
>>98504103>proves own pointNice.
>>98504033I started with Guard in 5th edition. I currently have Guard and Sisters at 2kish points and have been himming and hawing over getting into Tau and CSM in the past year.I went into a hobby store with my brother who was after model rocket parts or something and I went over to the "Warhammer section" (both 40k and fantasy) instead. The store had a bunch of promotional art featuring guard, and I thought they looked cooler than the space marines as a 9-year old so I asked my mom to buy some for me for Christmas that year and it's all been downhill since.
>>98504157>promotional art featuring guard, and I thought they looked coolerOhnononono, please tell me not Cadians. You're almost as bad as Ultrasmurf players and part of the reason why Janes focused on Cadia to the detriment of all other regiments
>>98504033Space Marines, the edition before Matt Ward was unleashed upon the SM Dex. When Blud Rehvens had true grit.
>>98504157
Anybody regret buying an airbrush? I'm close to pulling the trigger on an airbrush setup and want to know if it's really needed. I plan to play IG, so maybe it will really help with all of the vehicles.
>>98504180I don't. Word of warning.They require way more cleaning then anyone ever fucking pretends they do. I specifically minmax my airbrushing basecoats by having the whole batch ready. Do not do one model at a time unless you are painting to entire model with a brush, but at that point you wouldn't be asking this question.
>>98504167nta but if you look at this art and don’t audibly say “hell yeah” you’re verifiably homosexual.
>>98504180nope>>98504190Takes me like 30 seconds to clean my airbrush between colors. Buy some wash bottles.
>>98504192I always preferred the old metal Cadians to the first plastic ones. Why I thought it was funny when so many people seethed about the new Cadian plastics.
>>98504167No, it was a blown-up version of the art from the 3rd edition codex of Steel Legion fighting Orks as a poster, I figured it was either official marketing material or the store owner had it made up.Pic related in particular is the same if my memory isn't making this specific detail up, it has been 18ish years since then.>>98504180I only use my airbrush for priming (of everything) and vehicles because I am lazy and don't like cleaning it.I know I can get "better" results painting all my units with it, but I also enjoy the process of doing it by hand with brushes too much.
>>98504192Don't get me wrong, I love Cadian art. I'd just never ever in a million years collect Cadians as an army, but I'd also never collect Ultras so checks out. I want an army that's not the milquetoast jack of all trades poster boys. At least you get models I suppose, while the rest of us scrounge around begging for scraps cunt
>>98504190Tell me about cleaning.
>>98504221If you don't clean it, the paint gets stuck in the nuzzle and airbrush becomes harder and harder to use. Eventually you'll run into other problems like getting water in the line and causing your paint mixture to get fucked and go all over the mini.I usually run a airbrush cleaner through it after im done, then disammble the brush and clean it out with little wire brushes you can buy. I'm not an airbrush expert so there might be a better solution from another anon.
>>98504033Started with Ulthwe Eldar in 5th, realised I couldn't paint for shit so I went to Blood angels instead, Sold my blood angels after 8th and the primarising of loyalists. Then I skipped 8th, came back in 9th with Necrons and started collecting eldar again with the refresh (but Saim Hann instead of Ulthwe because its just a better craftworld.)Also I own the Armageddon orks now too. They're pretty fun to paint. I can see why people like orks now.
When the Guard and Tau fight, who then is the underdog? The Guard for fighting a technologically superior enemy, or the Tau for fighting a numerically superior enemy that can afford to throw waves upon waves of men at them?
Is there an Admech kit currently being sold from the pre-Primaris era? I have a small Space Marine force that their lore is “was on the wrong side of the rift when it opened,” and I wanna give them Admech friends to explain why their shit is still somewhat maintained,
>>98504259The guard are always the underdog unless they're fighting GSC in which case the GSC are the underdog.
>>98504267Admech didn't change during primarisification, techpriests always looked the same as they do now. Just grab any one of them aside from Cawl ofc
>>98504259guard on an individual regiment scale because they’re going to be in those waves and likely die. from an geopolitical level its tau because its a genuine risk that they’ll be whittled down by constant attacks.
>>98504180Pros>Great for basecoating>EZ zenithal work>Good for quickly covering larger surfaces>Can get even coverage and smooth transitions very easily>Fantastic for glazing and very subtle color applicationCons>Can be absolute bastards when it comes to rookie mistakes>Need good ventilation or you'll inhale aerosolized paint, which is bad>A bit annoying to change colors and clean up>Need to learn proper thinning ratios for each paint type to prevent clogs or you'll quickly want to kysOnce you get everything figured out, it'll be an invaluable tool, just be patient with yourself when learning. Also keep in mind that it's not going to replace your bristle brushes and is best used in combination with them. Paintjobs that rely on too much airbrushing have a very distinct, overly soft look to them.
uuoooh battlesuits uuoohhh......
Ngl the only thing I want from 30k is that one flyer thing for admech.
>>98504190>>98504200>>98504211>>98504310Thanks for the info anons.
>>98504167NTA but Cadians are cool, and deciding they aren't just because they're popular or well known is hipster faggotry. Deciding that you hate the poster boys just because they're the poster boys is as brainless as liking them for that reason. You're still letting GW decide your tastes, just as an oppositional defiancy inverse.
Why do black templars hate psykers if the emperor was a psyker
>>98504338>no he wasn't shut the fuck up
>>98504338That's like asking why Christians hate witches if God is 'magic'
if the tau are commies why do they fight like NATO while the Imperial Guard actually fights like Soviets
>>98504338Is the classic racist idea of "you're one of the good ones" unheard of to you?
Any predictions what Games workshop is gonna do with the franchise
Best gear setup for two, five man scout squads? I'm tempted to go all in on shotguns and combat knives but I know its a bad idea.
>>98504346because the most inexpensive resource in the entire imperium is human life
Got my chuds primed, finally. Leaves me with a little over half a month to do all the painting. I'm tempted to once again not do oil washes since that adds so much waiting time to things, but I know it'll look better for it. Also fuck acrylic washes.And how are your collage projects going, anons?
>>98504338
>>98504338In old lore, some Psykers got the pass like Astropaths cause they were calibrated to always find the Emperor. In new Lore they threw this out the window and the BT’s apparently abuse their Astropaths even though that’s a good way to not have Astropaths anymore and be stranded in space. Maybe since he’s the Emperor he still gets a pass, James will change his mind on a whim.
>>98502823medium yeller
>>98504335>just because they're the poster boysYou assumed quite a bit there. No I don't hate them just because they're poster boys, I hate them for being boring. Drab green fatigues, nothing particularly interesting going on. They're like if you condensed all real world western militaries and found the most inoffensive middle ground average, yuck. Yet they're the only regiment GW seems to care about, other than the DKoK fad they had a few years back now. Where's the catachans, vostroyans, tallarn? Hell even elysians and harakoni warhawks have more flavour than Cadia.
>>98504346Because people think fascism and communism are the same thing
What do people who pilot chaos knights look like
>>98504350Same thing they've been doing for 20 yearsMilk Marinepigs for all they're worth, hire hacks to write shitty BL novels, and treat the video game side of the franchise as glorified advertising.
>>98504297> Fehevari posterThere's hope for /40kg/ after all.
>>98504387sheesh anon lighten up
>>98504368I forgot that I was mad about this retcon.
>>98504391He's right tho
>>98504108wtf Ethereals look like that?
>>98504383Pic related is just Arabs, man. Not even any real twist on it, just Arabs with a basilisk. I don't hate that but I don't think it's anything that stands out as particularly unique either. I don't know of any western uniform that actually looks like a Cadian apart from the colour scheme. I've never seen flak pauldrons or a Cadian style helmet in a history book. Seen plenty of desert dwelling dudes in robes with head wraps in those books. I mean sure it's derivative of actual historical military styles but so is almost every other regiment. Vostroyans are russians, mordians are french, krieg and steel legion are krauts. It applies to almost all of them not just cadians.
>>98502823Just finished up some Boyz after a break. Probably gonna do the bigboss next so he can fit the collage theme.>>98502812I'm mixed on a few things. I love the addition of hunter profiles and also love the fact that tankbustas are bs4+, meaning the door is open for specialized Ork shooting units to have the ability to aim (somewhat).However, I really don't like that all of our basic shooting like sluggas and shootas and dakkaguns are getting lethals against infantry. It bloats the datasheets and doesn't serve any purpose for the guns' feel. Necrons get lethal hits because the weapons atomize you. Orks get it against infantry because ??? Balance purposes?Ultimately I would like to think that this codex being strong means that the game is moving to smaller battle sizes due to higher points costs. Games have gotten insanely long to the point where we're back to playing 1.5k games just fit them into our allotted game time.This shit is still better than 10th, though.
>>98504425>Pic related is just Arabs>Vostroyans are russians, mordians are french, krieg and steel legion are krautsYes, and all of these are better and more visually interesting than pseudo British men in dull green. Do I wish they came up with even more unique regiments? Sure. But not!Russians/Arabs/French/Krauts are all more interesting than WWII Brits with armour plates sewed into the uniform
Mourn the wraithlord. Mourn that you did not get to kill it yourself
>>98504453Why? What makes anarcho-brits less interesting than anarcho-germans or anarcho-russians or anarcho-arabs? Just because you're a Brit or Brit adjacent yourself?Also, pic is missing the chestplate and helmet which are the unique cadian-esque bits not really mirrored in history. Which isn't a lot, sure, but it's isn't nothing either.
>>98503255this one is weak, the others were more powerful
>Exodites came out last week>/ktg/ is goneWhat the fuck
>>98504425Take a then-contemporary when 40k was being made US Army PASGT helmet and extend it to its logical conclusions as if you're a British man in the 80s who has no idea why tactical gear looks the way it does. That and other contemporary military equipment (British, West German, even some Soviet and Yugoslavian, etc) is what a lot of Cadian gear is based on, 80s/90s equipment taken to the nth degree by people who don't know why combat gear is shaped the way it is (so they make some nonsensical conclusions in their extrapolation).None of them are 1-to-1 of course, but there is a clear line of inspiration you can draw from the real objects to the original GW designs for Cadians.And a bit of Colonial Marines from Alien on top of the real items, but their gear is also clearly heavily derived from 80s US equipment like the PASGT helmet and vest (and the Vietnam-era flak jackets that came before the vest) so we loop back around.
>>98504113Considering you asked what faction and not what specific model, I'd say you're more "queercoded" than I am you flaming faggot
>>98504471I'm not a Brit, no. Even my country would make for fun inspo we run an RPG where a bunch of ozzie guard in slouch hats exist lmao. What don't I find interesting about Cadians though? I've touched on colour multiple times, I just don't like how drab they are, the generic WWII uniform (yes, even with the flak plates it doesn't help much). Then there's tactics/culture. Mordians have their disciplined firing lines, Catachans/Tallarn/Vostroyans have their favoured/unfavoured environments, Tanith, Elysians, Harakoni (among other regiments like armoured companies) are specialists in certain types of warfare. Cadia are just... good soldier boys? I hate them for being jack of all trades just like Ultras, another thing I said earlier.
>>98504490Yeah, I don't disagree at all.I don't see that as being a uniquely Cadian issue either is my point. They don't even extrapolate or change it up a little bit by adding pauldrons with the Tallarns, they're just Arabs in 40k. Catachan is a planet full of Rambos and Arnold Schwarzeneggers, and there's no less than two not-German regiments. I don't have a problem with that but its not something you can honestly point at as being a Cadian-only issue.
>>98504499Nta but eldar are pretty queer
>>98504387Enjoy your sloppy seconds.
Does the Tau Empire have prostitutes?
>>98504514yeah but the Death Jester is kino
>>98504364I just started on mine, but luckily it’ll be a simple tactical marine getting axed by an ork boy at minimum. I’m going to slice some more off so it fits, but the idea is he’s going to be on his back shielding his face while the ork gets ready to do a big swing on him.
>>98504509>I'm not a Brit I'm an AussieMate we're both Brits on a different island down here, be real. At the very least that counts as Brit adjacent.I could go on about how cadians are raised from childhood as fighters, guarded the eye of terror, and have their purple eye thing. And now they have the 'avenge our dead world' thing going on. I'm not trying to say they're the coolest regiment, I just think they're held to unfairly high standards due to being the poster boys and are on par for coolness with most of the other known regiments.It's an interesting topic of discussion either way, though.
>>98504509Cadia is a fully militarized society. The good bit of Cadia WAS its civilians - or lack of them. How they all wore camo like tactical mall Texans, how their cities were a mix of Switzerland-Tel'Aviv-Albania with bunkers next to malls and parks.Then they all exploded.As for the aesthetic, the world war tunics are the best part of their style.RIP Cadia: nobody actually knew you, despite being the ultramarines of guardsmen.
>>98502802Boys lost object sticky? That sucks. But that action one is nice
>>98502955I feel like that Lhykhis is supposed to be a dude, but my initial gut read was "ELDAR MONKEY WOMAN NEURON ACTIVATION"
So how do Ork tribes work? Is it like gang affiliations where they're all mixed together on the same planets arguing over turf but still cooperating sometimes? Or is it more like each tribe is their own little empire? Ghaz is the Goff clan so does he lead only Goff orks or is he leading all orks?
>>98504531Tasteful. Blood Angel tactical, I'm guessing?I really wish they'd bring back the assembly style of tacticals and other kits of that time.>>98504543The head's from one of the corsair voidscarred ladies, I just did a shit job painting it.
>>98504543>I feel like that Lhykhis is supposed to be a dudeboth the lykhis model and that head are female though??
>>98504522Unironic state-assigned mates, meaning they have Gubernamental Prostitutes.
>>98504509Cadia was extremely militarized due to proximity to the Eye of Terror and all the threats that implies. Everyone's given training to the point kids are potty trained being told to aim their dicks like it's a Lasgun and everyone not on active duty is reserve and would be able to shoot if needed. Cadians ended up so effective that they set the standard and a huge chunk copy them for their effectiveness, making them the "normal" for many.
>>98504537I get your arguments, FWIW if you asked me 5+ years ago I would've been fine with Cadians. The flak armour is pretty cool looking and it's a shame they did the other regiments dirty by just straight lifting historical military outfits. I'd say that my latest real turn against Cadia is just how James has abandoned all other regiments for them, how every single time IG are shown in vidya its Cadians... I'm tired, grandpa!>>98504539You're just describing the US, and I hate their military propaganda and koolaid society too.
>>98504559In that case I apologize, honestly the idea of eldar as hyper-advanced monkey people, who are racist against humanity for being under developed primates, is so much more interesting than space elves going "ooooh the death of our race ooooooh~"
>>98504566>everyone not on active duty is reserve and would be able to shoot if neededI was writing an OC planet where the core tenners were agriculture, a war economy and an armed citizenry and my goal was to make a Cadia-Ultramar noblebright hybrid......which makes it funny how it turned out I accidentally made then a Khmer Rouge / Albanian hybrid.Whoops!Luckily that's par for the course in the Imperium, so...success?
>>98504566Which is almost a shame, so many regiments are half assed Cadian cosplayers, that the real deal almost get lost in the mix. A Cadian uniform does not a Cadian make.
>>98504567>You're just describing the USTheir houses are made out of wood and papier mache, anon, surrounded by grass. That is NOT fortified lmao
>>98504594Why are brits so obsessed with American houses
>>98504602Nah, taco here. Good houses are made out of concrete, especially on the coast (wind, rain, hurricanes). Brick at the very least.But we have AC, unlike brits. Poor guys, I hear they're getting cooked rn.
>>98504602NTA but as an Australian my feelings about houses could be summed up by Aesop's fox and the grapes fable. Gotta be a multimillionaire to afford a one bedroom shitbox down here, cunts fucked.
>>98504559>blood angel that would make sense, but I personally dislike blood angels, so I’m planning to do marines malevolent because they’re probably the only chapter I like, and they’re in the official armageddon book where they get BTFO by orks. at maximum I’m planning on putting some bomb squigs around because I think it would be funny if they fell for the same trick twice. also speaking of funny, I just looked back on >>98504364 and I love the little goober searching around with his auspex, and he gets snuck up on by a dude with a massive jump pack.
>>98504594Why are you yuros like this? Bricks don't always make good houses in all environments, and "wood and paper mache" is sturdier than you think. Also Warhammer 40K
>>98504614more EU deaths from heat related illness than all gun violence including suicides in america per year lmao
>>98504614>taco>talking shit about anyoneAhahaha
>>98504513Yea, there's a lot of half-assing and barely-changed-from-the-source stuff in 40k.Valhallans are pop culture Red Army in winter uniforms (including the big red star and a white-over-green paintjob on vehicles), Praetorians are literally just the 24th Regt. of Foot from the movie Zulu, Tallarn were originally meant to be a Lawrence of Arabia reference and so on. Hell, the guy who came up with Gaunt's Ghosts said he was ripping off Sharpe.I do wish that the original designers took more liberties, but we're 40 odd years on the other side of that pandora's box being opened so c'est la vie.>two not-German regimentsThree (or four), actually. Only SL and DKoK got models though, Teutons are stuck in an old codex.I would call Mordians space Prussians as well for the fourth, the whole "dark blue uniforms and excessive discipline" is the pop culture understanding of Prussia as the foundation for the entire early 20th century "German martial prowess" thing moreso than representing French elan.
>>98504614I used to live in New Orleans and that's bullshitIf a hurricane tears a house up, it's better to have flying drywall than flying bricks and most of the concrete buildings that were fucked up are basically unusable.
So basically Cadia is just Albania
>>98504602Their country (all of EU really) relies on everything historical as their identity. Even if that's just trying to brag about their old ass, tiny brick dwellings that they refuse to modernize with air conditioning.The modern yuro lives off copium and seethe over everyone around them (including other yuros).The eternal yuro desires only to declare the inferiority of those around him.
>>98504620>goober searching aroundHe's supposed to be getting stabbed whilst running, but the "posing" was kind of difficult to do.
So do you think Cadians were omitted from galactic heresy statistics due to being the "georg spider eater" of falling to chaos thanks to their extreme proximity to the eye of terror, or did they just hide it in normal crime statistics?
>>98504628Fair on the mordians, but I do think there is a frenchiness about them in how they insist on a well tailored dress uniform. Reminds me of how resistant they were to ditching their fancy red and blue in the opening years of WW1, before they finally couldn't avoid facing reality and went drab green and brown like everyone else.
>>98504614>concrete homes>in earthquake prone areasstick to grilling carne asada, pablo
>>98504645They're too useful for the higher ups to ask too many awkward questions. See also 'why are there so many Kriegers'?
>>98504554The Ork klans are a genetic predisposition. Orks spawned from spores of a particular Ork are typically going to have the same Klan disposition. As a greater whole, yea, generally the klans will get along with each other, though depending on the respective populations and/or the current leader of the entire warband this will adjust - i.e. a warband comprised of Goffs or Snakebites with a smaller community of Deffskullz or Blood Axes within will have more inter-Klan strife because of how those klans have fairly opposed views.But as mentioned, leadership is more about the entire organized warband than it is about klans, though simultaneously it can be both. Using Ghaz as an example, in the current Armageddon storyline he's got Nazdreg, Wazdakka, and Snikrot all answering to him as boss and each responsible for Ork forces largely comprised of their respective klans, with obviously a lot of Goffs making up the combined force as well.
>>98504641>posing was kind of difficult to do.MANY SUCH CASES. fair enough though, its still a really cool diorama leaning into badass rather than silly.
>>98504627>Wood and paper is not fortified>"Why are you talking shit?!"Ah, I see you come from twitter
>>98504482Yep its a sad state of affairsWe’re chillin here now tho its coolThis shit needs to be updated eventually
>>98504651If I had to guess, I'd say the guy who came up with them was big into the Franco-Prussian war as his historical piece of interest and mishmashed the two into a single regiment.
How hard would it be to model some erect nipples for a SOB?
>>98504680Oh dear, I see you come from American tier education. Anon said "good houses are made of concrete". That implies he thinks "wood and paper mache" houses are trash and so too are the countries/people that build them. That is firmly in the ballpark of "talking shit", capiche?
>>98504629I have actually been in a hurricane. I was surprised that my problem was flooding...from the top: the windy rain carried so much water it was seeping from the windows on the 2nd floor, while the bottom floor was dry (I live on a hill).Had to open the rear terrace door (in the wind's shadow) and sweep the water through the other side.Luckily we don't get actually tornadoes; we don't have basements. I would love to have a basement. The entire concept sounds so cool! It's like a secret lair under your house.>>98504653Carne asada is from the north, and earthquakes are from the west coast and center. I'm on the Gulf.Nobody should live in the capital; it's literally built over a marsh.Heard DC is also like that, but hopefully without natural disasters.
Does anyone have that futa fem Angron STL that was floating around?
>>98504708
>>98504698>Anon said "good houses are made of concrete". That implies heI'm anon, I know what I imply. Good ("expensive and sturdy) houses HERE are made of the materials I mentioned.We also have wooden houses, but those belong to very poor people and are mostly in bad conditions.Foreign builders keep pushing for wooden designs, as wood is actually fine for building and vastly cheaper...but people here just aren't used to them (Spanish-style construction), and believe all wood is tinder waiting to burst aflame.Or rot with the sea spray. The high salinity makes people distrust exposed steel also. It's plastered blocks or reinforced concrete.Even if it's a tiny shoebox, it has a concrete exterior.
>>98504734Okay, well what you need to understand is that your experience doesn't apply the world over. I live in a tropical environment and wooden houses breath the best in the humidity. We have big fancy ones with wraparound porches that can cost a small fortune. Also not 100% sure what's done to resist the salt spray, but we have them on the coast too and they're fine. So get it out of your head that wood = flimsy and cheap, it's simply not true.
CK point costs right now let you take one of each knight class >stalker>abominant >tyrant>castigator/acheron>porphyrionCK and IK points should always allow this, in fact there should be specific detachments for it. Call it Family Reunion or something
>>98504774GET THAT SHIT OUTTA HERE
>>98504743Proper wood is. Drywall ain't. I never understood videos of people punching holes in the walls until I learned that indeed my experience (concrete) just wasn't universal.
>>98502823Got chunk of lads painted up with the first layer of green. Currently got a warboss, bigboss, brekka boys and about 40 boys plus some bomb squigs.I think the plan is to paint the green on everything, finish painting one of the characters to completion, then paint another block of colour on the rest with the aim being to prevent burnout.
So I got the Armageddon box, I don't play or collect orks, but I figured it would be a good point to start with the new sculpts. Does this mean it's the ideal time to get a Ghazghkull?
>>98504815I mean if you’re interested in giving orkz a tryIf there ever was a time it probably is now since theyre about to become a guaranteed top 2 army
>>98504821There's a casual league that is starting up at my FLGS so I was considering getting some together for at least a 1000 point game. I also can't help but be enticed by the new stuff down the line, the Ork bikes look too cool.
>>98504801Yeah sure, drywall is cheap and flimsy but it's perfect in that way. Keeps building costs down, easy to repair or make modifications. Just quit being so judgemental of wood and plaster lmao, I can still sense your derision
>>98502823Final stages of dreadnought assembly, and some overlord painting. Didn't even need to magnetise the big gun, could've been held in by friction but I bought the magnets so I'm using them. I'm going to green stuff something around the magnet edges to make them blend into the guns more.
>>98504801Grind your axe about better countries elsewhere Juan.
>>98504866British stone buildings are the most fortified there is: even cool air cannot break in ;^)
>An amerimutt defending xir's paperhouses on /tg/ Lol, lmao even
>>98504091Don't make them Mary Sues.They can't be good at everything and they can't be stupidly obvious self-inserts with your name, that's cringe.Avoid doing real life political crap like troon flags as well. Or anything to do with furries or anime.Otherwise you should be fine.
Votann need more trains.
I want the votann to run a train on me if yknowwhatimsaying.
I am a tad disappointed I never seen anyone run Neanderthal themed Dwarves.
So I am a little mad, I bought some ratlings off ebay, NOS and some weirdo already painted the toes.
>>98504917>Neanderthal themed DwarvesWhat's that even like
>>98504927Short cavemen dawi
>>98504425>Pic related is just Arabs, manYou may have missed it but that is literally the point of this whole setting.>Orcs in space>Elves in space>Nazis in space>Commies in space >Weeaboos in space>Dwarves in space>Terminator in space>Alien vs Predator in space>The Devil in space>Canticle for Leibowitz in space >Starship Troopers Space Marines... in space... IN SPACE>>98504490Don't forget Starship Troopers. very similar to Cadians
>>98504471Anon, "anarcho" comes from the Ancient Greek "an" meaning an absence of, and "archon" meaning leader."Anarcho-" means some sort of organisation with no rulers.The Imperium is the polar opposite of "Anarcho-".You're probably looking for "Pseudo-" (meaning "false") or "Auth-" (a modern political term, short for "Authoritarian", the opposite of "Anarcho-").All Imperium regiments are "Auth-Right" in political terms, with the exception of rebellious ones not in full compliance.
>>98504961>You may have missed it but that is literally the point of this whole setting. You probably wouldn't have missed it if you read the whole chain of discussion before posting, but yes that is more or less the point I was making. That the Cadians are not an exception in that regard.>>98504979>Anarcho was the wrong wordOk you got me on that one lol
>>98504192hell yeah
>>98504338>how do antisemitic Christians exist?
>>98504958That would make vastly more sense than the usual depiction of dwarvesI wonder what's the better height for humans, considering falls start getting more dangerous the taller you are, and tall people develop back pain and fucked knees and the like. Maybe that's just anecdotal though
>>98505027>220pxWhat is this, an AI pic for ants?
>>98505031Yes. They are small, and so are their pictures, see?
Its a squat silly!
>>98505033Did you just explain the joke for a decades old meme?
are fire caste battlesuit pilots the most professional soldiers in the setting?
Is it weird I would rim Logan Rimnar?
>>98505043Permanent...
>>98505043Hella
>>98502878Compare.
>>98505041>cast >profession lol
Hey guys I really need help naming my army. Space marines and I painted them chocolate brown with bright yellow shoulder pads. Thinking something really epic.
>>98505061The turbo turds
>>98505061>Hey guys I painted>Doesn't post what he paintedNo you didn't.
>>98505060retarded
>>98505061Bananarama Bandits
>>98505076I thought it said “plap to the extreme” lol
>>98502931What country is this, is that a god damn statue?
>>98505092>What country>black tar on bread right in the shotMy little ignorant anon, sweet summer child...
>>98505082That was Fulgrim
>>98505060as opposed to whathomunculus child soldiers?press-ganged infantry hordes?self-replicating fungal monstrosities?extragalactic dinosaur bugs?from my lens i don't actually see much else registering
>>98505061Call them banana marines, like the one anon with brown and yellow tau.
>>98505061Sons of Peepeepoopoo
the emperor forgets
why doth the emperor forget?mayhaps, the emperor never knew
the emperor has no clothes
>>98505169gigaton trvke
BREAKING:inqusition uncovers dastardly tau plot to sit back and relax as the imperium implodes
My shitty army man
>>98505190born to die in six minutes in open conflict
>>98505169Good
>>98505190Your shitty army, their are many like it, but that one is yours.
>>98505195you're*there*
>>98505197Hey man its a doggie dog world and your a diamond dozen.
>>98505197"Your" was right ackshually
>>98505215zatto izzu za jokeu
>>98502823ive also been painting my armageddon orks
>>98505218I've shamed myself
>>98503218chaos cultists
>>98505212I'm a diamond what now?
>power hiccup out of nowhere during some rain>printer shit itself and botched the plate when resumedrip two crisis suits
hey frens, haven't posted in a while because of the path of exile league but getting back to warhammer routine now. next project.. should I go for my 3rd Saturnine Dreadknight or take a break from them and paint the 40k terrain crane?
>>98505256hhfags are allowed to pillage 40k shit not the other way around
>>98505025Retarded comparison
>>98505270>deimos was given a bunch of rare and powerful technology after the heresy>including the fucking psytitans>but giving a few grandmasters custom dreads is too far?
>>98505285i don't give a fuck anon i was just poking funhh should ideally be raided for everything it's worth by parallel settings anyhow
I've started to use my own cum as a glaze but have noticed a yellowing pattern emerging with my older jars. Anyone else run into that issue?
>>98505294NTA, but 99% of my muhreens are either HH or green stuffed to look like HH
>>98505313i don't acknowledge the existence of primaris marines or their plate as any form of increment of design. it's all just stumbled-upon mk.iv derivativethey're just space marines and the imperium is forever mortally wounded and tottering forward while bleeding its lastany suggestions otherwise will be ignored
>>98505310I use my period blood for the same thing and found a 1:1 ratio with lahmian medium helps extend the shelf life.
>>98505313I keep trying with the idea of buying a bunch of HH marines to build a Deathwatch army with just because they're cheaper per mini than the current 40k marines, but then I get into the logistics of sourcing different weapons and the super special DW pauldrons for them all and my head starts to hurt.
Fuck I want Saint Celestine to brap in my face.
>>98505323Interesting anon... How do you feel about barghesi?
I'll open this thread 10 years from now and I'll bet that I'll still see the same anons complaining about primaris for the sake of complaining.
>>98505344these fuckers? rad. i'd love to see a full infantry squad and all their other shit but i'm actually much more enamored with the tau as a sort of serious xenos contender to mankind, and one that they entirely failed to snuff out in the crib, at that
>>98505353Ohnononono, last question do you make homebrew for 40K RPGs?
>>98505374no but once i wanted to do a lord of war themed rogue trader game but no one was interested
>>98505377Oh, phew. You came close there pal
Grognard checking in here lads. Been playing since 2 ed. Primaris rules and anyone who says otherwise is just plain wrong. Great design and a true evolution to the marine design.
>>98505393kindly eat a bolter
>>98505393Prove it. Show us evidence of your grognardness and tell us in more detail why you think primaris successfully evolve marine design, otherwise I don't believe you
as someone who started in 5th i need to chime in and say hell fuckkin yah i love th e primaris designs they r sick af love the updates they did and frankly gw should take it further
>>98505393Fellow grognard here, anon is right *strokes epic beard* also female space marines should be canon and remember to protect trans kids!
as a 3e pureblood chosen one i simply look down on everyone occupying the present fetid desert of the real that gw has erected for itself and encourage you to take a look at entry-level elegoo SLA machines
As a shitposter supreme and new player I say fuck primaris! at least I think so anyway! I really wanna fit in with you guys :)
>>98503218Ork speedfreaks
>>98505411This but unironically. Would be nice to see some representation.
>>98503366DOOM RIIIDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE'
>>98505440
>>98505393>>98505410>>98505414>>98505427PERMANENT
>>98505447>>98505447>>98505447>>98505447TEMPORARY
>>98505445>implying half of the playerbase cares about cuckstodes99% of players only ever think of cuckstodes when they think about how much they hate the poorfags who play them
>>98505451LIMITED
>>98505056>make the fun stuff like wargear simpler>make the stuff that actually should be simple more complex (stats)I don't understand how people can play modern editions.Some people are really keeping track of all those multi-wounds models, but can't handle wargear?
>>98505445>Femstodes are for womenWasn't ADB or some other shmuck dreaming of marrying serena williams or something?Everyone knows femstodes are for shitty men obsessed with sexual fantasy about strong women, and/or performative virtue signaling faggots.
Anyone else find it irritating trying to buy models on Amazon, getting an older box on accident and getting some weird midget dudes?
>>98505471I don't support Bezos and have a FLGS, so no
>>98505471no
>>98505471amazon is half scams these days
>>98502847kino
>>98505471A BUNCH OF ROCKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-d3FGV-kG8
>>98505483What's the name of the STL?
>>98505488they're from a big assemblage of stuff from a guy called neotericsearching the right telegram channels should point you at some of the same things
>>98505491Do they have the STL of the great unclean one with the poop poking out?
>soul vs soulless
>>98505506fucking holy shit does that primaris marine go hard lmao
>>98505506Silence redditor.https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/1txjhp0/511_vs_60/
32mm bases were unironically the best thing to ever happen to spacey marinesu
Is brutalis the best way to go for a dreadnought?
>>98505511Holy shit I hate reddit.>give an opinion>nothing offensive or aggressive>just a personal opinion>oh no they don't like new thing?>they're not sucking corpo cock!?>better le hecking downvote that!
What's the best way to use a squad of eliminators with bolt snipers in a normal 1000 point game?
>>98505533V
>>98505538Either infiltrate high up the board as a speedbump, or screen your backfield against ingress moves and hold home. Maybe you get lucky and kill something with them but they don't have enough shots or offensive abilities to expect much. Hopefully they get revamped in the new codex (interaction with Hidden would be nice, or replacing move-shoot-move with rerolls like the Lancer has).
>>98505025Bad comparison, given that Jews in that context, rejected, betrayed and killed the Christian deity's son who incarnated as one of them. They don't view Jews as exalted or special in present tense (apart from evangelicals, but what can you expect from young earth creationists)
>>98505506Middle hammer marines were the best. Easy to kitbash for great results. Wish primaris had that.
>>98505506Left looks like a grot
>>98505574little kid wearing dad's clothes
>>98505232Well at least you can use the two failed prints as basing material or conversion fodder I guess.
>>98505459>make the stuff that actually should be simple more complex (stats)Stats don't need to be simpler. In fact they need to bring back all the stats they've removed.
>>98505682They're fun little guys
>>98505691NOOOOOOO! We can't just have a simple stat that we compare to determine who fights first in the phase, we have to go through a flowchart and do all this homosexual rigamarole with special rules to see who's fighting what! It's shrimplified!
>>98505705>we have to go through a flowchart and do all this homosexual rigamarole with special rules to see who's fighting what!painfully nogames
>>98505722NTA but it is true that initiative as a stat is way simpler to follow than fights first and fights last and all their interactions.
>>98505691The amount of stat isn't the problem, it's the numbers.16 wounds is more complicated than 4.Lower stats are better.
>>98505743That I very much agree with.
Yo will Ork Boyz get an upgrade sprue so I can get a box of boyz when they come out and build 9x special weapons to mix and match the new guys with Armaggedon Orks.
>>98505771>will they come with an upgrade sprueUnless they get a subfaction sprue (like freebooterz), then unlikely.start box boyz don't have special weapon, but there's another start box with some extra models (big shoota and rokkit launcha)Multipart boyz have the special weapons in the box.If you want a lot of special weapons you can always wait for burnas/lootas.What special weapons are you looking for?
Thinking of transporting my veteran guardsmen Krieg Kill Team in a Gorgon with a magnetized floor.Could it be possible? I need to fit at least 14-18 guardsmen inside.
>>98505799>KT>18 dudesNani?>possible?Maybe a bit tight, but if you got a printer you could always print a slightly bigger gorgon
>>9850580518 just for the full number of operative options
~7th ed legionaries are the same size as mk3 tacticals when it comes to hands or would it be showing a bit too much?
>>98505737The initiative stat can come back only if there are more ways to interact with it. I don't care how much sense it made lorewise it sucked ass not being able to throw my melee guys into the enemies melee guys because I knew they'd all get murdered before getting to swing back.Its not as bad of a feeling when you're throwing Guardsmen at Incubi or WE because of course thats going badly but charging boyz into Assault marines only to lose half the unit before even swinging because>I2Felt like reheated ass.Tho I suppose bringing Initiative back would make Eldar actually good at something again. That could be nice for them I guess.
>>98505783>What special weapons are you looking for?Just 2x burna, big shoota and rokkit for the 20 Boyz
>>98505352Sounds based
>>98505807That's what I wagered, but I don't play KT (yet)>>98505829You can get the rokkit and shoota with the introduction set. As for the burnas, just wait for the burna kit to come out, it'll likely be dual kit with lootas so you'll have spare burnas
>>98505352>for the sake of complainingNo u unironically
>>98505829just grab a box of lootas then, you can turn one of the big shootas into an ork holding rockets launcher by kitbashing the gun to have some rockets instead of barrels
>>98505879At this point just wait for the new kit, less hassle
Why do the ork models have to look so fucking good? I don't want to drop another $1000 dollarydoos on an army, I haven't even finished my Smelldar
>>98505882Finish your smelldars, then you can start a mini ork force, the models aren't going away any time soon
>>98505871>As for the burnas, just wait for the burna kit to come out, it'll likely be dual kit with lootas so you'll have spare burnasanon...
>>98505882you should do it anyway, that way you'll be a Based ork player and not just a cringe Smelldar player.
What does /40kg/ think of my idea for a TSons vindicator? I want to do something similar with the front of the plow, though maybe fewer stripes and less of a gap between the smallest and the largest. The metal trim on the right and left with be gold too, restricting the stripes to the middle.
>>98505871I have 60 of the Armageddon boys and thought I'd buy 2 of these orks from the introductory set and now I have 2 nobz and 6 left over boyz. And I still don't have a single ork boy squad fully equipped because the burners are missing. I feel like I'll have to buy the new ork boyz box and just equip everyone with specials
>>98505737Bullshit. Fights first is literally taking turns to pick a fights first unit (units that charged or have native fights first) to fight, and then when all those are finished continuing to take turns. In no way is that more complicated than checking the initiative values of all eligible units.
>>98505903InterestingLooking forward to it
>>98505903or
>>98505903playmobil/10
>>98505737I still don't understand the point of initiative. What does it simulate? What breaks if it's removed?I can understand fight first and fight last, as in units that are so fast they hit before you or weapons so cumbersome that they only hit at the end.For most cases it's a question of fighting skill.Maybe I'm retarded.
>>98505914Fights first and fights last requires dividing the combat into 3 steps, one for each rule, with its own weird interactions when certain rules or actions grant one of those rules or when you're activating out of phase. Initiative is literally just going in order from 10 to 1.
>>98505682Primarisfags are children trying to wear daddy's clothes, I agree
>>98505924>I still don't understand the point of initiative>I can understand fight first and fight lastthen you understand the point of initiative, it's just that with it, instead of fight first/last, there are more than just 3 levels of initiative
>>98505924Initiative represents how fast a unit is in combat, so faster units like Eldar will get to strike first and slower units will strike last. It's not that things break if you remove it but it was a very simple solution to figuring out in what order is combat resolved. A lot of heavier weapons were balanced around the fact that they had shit initiative.
>>98505931>>98505932But is that really necessary? Do we really need more than 3 levels of initiative?Genuine question
>>98505936Not necessarily. The issue isn't having 3 steps, it's how the underlying rules are written. If fights first and fights last worked exactly the same as initiative steps then there would be no issue.
>>98505936do you really need more than 3 levels of armor?
>>98505927There are two steps: fights first and then not-fights first. It's incredibly simple if you've played a game of 11th. Maybe you're getting confused by having to actually make tactical choices during the phase and want it all predetermined?What "certain rules or actions" are you thinking of? The potentially complicated out of phase stuff like fights on death would interfere with initiative as well.
>>98505945>Maybe you're getting confused by having to actually make tactical choices during the phase and want it all predetermined?it's rare to have so many units in combat that choosing which unit to resolve first is a real choice, most often you just pick your most powerful unit, or whatever is engaged with the enemy's post powerful unitif anything alternated activations should happen at range, and melee should be more chaotic and with less control
>>98505940I haven't touched anything past 5th, how does fight first and fight last work in comparison to initiative?>>98505941For a game like 40k I'd say so. I'm wondering if that granularity is needed for melee combat, since it's quite hectic and brutal.One of the first wargame was a literal coin toss when two units engaged in melee combat.
>>98505951>it's rare to have so many units in combat that choosing which unit to resolve first is a real choicenogames
>>98505956>how does fight first and fight last work in comparison to initiative?It's like a mini fight phase with only the models that have those rules and it has tricky interactions with any other rule that makes you fight. Or at least that was the issue in 10th, I don't know about 11th.
>>98505951>if anything alternated activations should happen at rangeAn alternating shooting phase, or a combined shooting/melee "fight" phase would be cool. Do all charges in the movement phase. Speed the game up.
>>98505963No way they made it more complicated than>okay fight first units attack, resolve these attacks>okay regular units attack, resolve those>okay now fight last attack, resolve those>doneIt shouldn't be harder than that. Yes I am clueless as to how 10th work, now is learning time.
>>98505963Fight last doesn't exist anymore.
>>98505920I really like that front. I wish I had a 3D printer. >>98505921That’s why I was going to make the lines finer and paint the trim/chisels gold. It would take away that blocky look a bit.
>>98505963That isn't how it worked at all in 10th, and not in 11th either. Fight phase in both is "units with fight first goes first, then others goes, players alternate" with the non-active player going first in each case in 10th and the active player going first in 11th and then alternating from there. Fights last doesn't actually exist in 10th or 11th, so there's just two steps. There are finesses that happen when units pile in (if you pile into a fights first unit, for exampe, it becomes eligible to fight right after yours and indeed has to if its the only fights first unit ready to fight), but that sort of thing had to be dealt with even in old editions, since it's been something that happens for as long as pile-ins have happened (and it is a thing in at least my copy of the 4th ed rulebook) and was no different when it came to initiative, if a unit with higher initiative somehow got pulled into combat, it got to fight and you jumped back to whatever initiative step it is at. You could never dodge a unit fighting by piling a lower I unit into a faster one, they still got to fight.
>>98505990NTA but if, in the end, it's pretty much the same, why change it? A special rule to handle those steps is still a worse format than a simple stat.
>>98505903If you're a god at freehand (or can find some good decals for it) you could paint the plow like it was a wall covered in hieroglyphics.
>should be excited for all these new ork releases as an ork player>tfw already sick of it and have started rebuilding my second armyThe only thing i painted from the Armageddon box is the dakkarig and it was in the collage
>>98505966>Do all charges in the movement phase.then you lose some fun interactions or end up with frustrating behaviours for example by putting a small disposable unit in front of your own you completely prevent the enemy from reaching it in combat because the only way for reaching it would be shooting it down and then charging past it, but if charges happen only before shooting then that can't happensimilarly if charges happen before shooting you can just throw shitty units at important units and even if the shitty unit is going to evaporate immediately in combat, the big unit will be stopped from shooting so I think charging HAS to happen after the alternated shooting
I don't cary about any of this but it should be called assault phase again.
So if knights are going to be souped with admech, does that mean chaos knights will…
>>98506085>knights souped with admechHuh?
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>>98506008A special rule is better since it can be more strictly limited, because having it handled by a stat leads to "melee" armies that either have weirdly high initiative stats for their fluff, or are simply unable to function because their enemies effectively have army wide fights first against them. Orks suffered badly from this (>I2 memes) but it also means in many cases the only actually relevant stat a unit has is its initiative. You can have a bajillion attacks and strength and ap, but it doesn't matter if your opponent hits you first and has half a bajillion which kills you just as good. Custodes, for example, would be absurdly oppressive against melee armies (and indeed have been with widely available fight first like in index 10th and/or high initiative in systems like 30k) because they will always hit hard enough to kill you and their fluff demands they have better initiative than anyone else. The game just becomes unplayable for armies like WE at that point because what are you supposed to do? You can't shoot them, and you can't fight them.
>>98504406why dis nigga look like kraang
>>98505554At the very least they should get their special bullets back.
