>what’s Trench Crusade?A pseudo dieselpunk weird World War One setting flavored around fighting against the forces of hell unleashed accidentally by Templars during the crusades.>How do I get started?All the files are free online:https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/They used to be split between the website and the discord, but no more. For posterity's sake, the old mega will still be kept active even if it's unlikely to need updating: https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ>third party sources for making trenchers:https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAcUse these (and/or 3D printing) instead of the official plastics as their pricing contradicts the accessibility to the game (price wise) Trench Crusade was founded on.>Trench Companion, awesome warband builder and campaign trackerhttps://trench-companion.com/>Previous Thread:>>98334130>thread question:What existing game’s rules would work best for reusing trench crusade minis for larger scale with larger numbers of minis and vehicles?
>>98502795>tqHaven’t played these but they should work with minimal homebrewing>Forbidden psalm>Xenos rampant>OPR (heavy honebrew unit stat wise)
i hope dirge gets new toys
>>98428961In a world where souls are canonically real, the devil is after them and so on, any suffering undertaken by the flesh is but the plucking of nosehairs compared to the faltering or loss of a single innocent.There's zero moral ambiguity in such circumstances. Jimmy the allpowerful pedophile is out there and he's gonna diddle kids for the rest of eternity unless you stop him. Even if you're a right bastard, so long as you Gary Plauche some demons, you're doing the right thing.
>>98503026Um actually demons are real and souls are real but some people are mean (but would never do a heckin' racism) so the only good people are muslims okay?
>>98502795>What existing game’s rules would work best for reusing trench crusade minis for larger scale with larger numbers of minis and vehicles?Savage Worlds Showdown.Each unit has Toughness, and is either staggered, or dead. So unless you care a lot about knocking units prone (wouldn't really bother), you can just lay staggered units on their side, or mark them somehow. Units have different levels of Fighting, Shooting or Throwing (d4 through d12) and they average to d6 for normal troops, so it's easy to resolve lots of attacks at once with a block of d6s. Machine guns are 3 or 4 attacks at a -2 penalty, there are AoE templates in Small Medium and Large. Overall really easy to run.
Dead game ):
Companion guy here, gonna repeat what I posted in other places about some recent issues.> We've been seeing a number of issues with login lately coinciding with our recent transfer to a new host (largely in preparation for the Carcass Front and a likely traffic increase).> While our recent fix has resolved things for most people it seems some users are still having issues with browser caching which is preventing the fix from 'being recognized' so to speak. To help with this you will likely need to refresh your browser's cache for the website.> Depending on your browser you may need to do something different, but for most this can be accessed in your settings and, while on the site, you can do a full refresh with (Ctrl+Shift+R) or (Ctrl+F5).> Also, due to a couple attempts to overwhelm the servers, we've added a login-limiting system. Combined with the above issues with logins, a number of people have likely been temporarily blacklisted from our servers. I've tuned back this login-limiter and hopefully reset everyone affected.> Failing all of that, manual resets performed by us are generally a good last resort, so get in touch with our support email and we'll work together to resolve this.
WIP of a board I'm printing for a local TC player. Total will be 20 of these tiles
I don't get it. What real, tangible benefit does a Heretic Legionaire get for throwing in with Hell? For the small price of their eternal soul, they get->To fight armies of fanatics with logistical and divine support>A decade or two of sin, on the off chance they aren't in the trenches>Infinite torture without hope of releaseThe juice does not seem worth the squeeze.
>>98504047yeah but if they win they'll get higher and higher. trust me bro, it won't be me. it'll be everyone else.
>>98504047Avoiding immediate death at the hands of their fellow hell hole enjoyers and demonic overlords. Lure of power to inflict pain. Many people don't want to remove suffering, they want to be in a position where they can inflict what they have suffered. Revenge for sorry state of being that has gone past redeamablity so might as well fuck something up. Spite. Spite is at least 25% of the posts on this board. Don't know any better and now they're stuck with it. Coolest looking helmets.
>>98504024Oh hey that was an old one
>>98504047At the start of the war the Court of the Seven Headed Serpent killed everyone who wasn't already black-of-heart in (what is now) heretic lands.Not even 'those who begged for mercy' - only those who were already evil (psychopaths, sadists, etc).So you can think of heretic territory as being 99% low-trust-psychos kept in check because their boss is also a low-trust psycho who also has hell power.
>>98503026>>98503206see>>98429908and stop samefagging, faggot.
>>98503976Thanks for all your work, companion anon.
>>98503012I think they got confirmed as being one of the future factions to get expanded, so I’d imagine new plastic. I think Fida’i is next, then hopefully Dirge.
>>98504616Reminds me of what happened in Scandinavia but in reverse, IIRC they had African tier murder rates until they just started hanging all murderers on the spot, which over time actually made the Swedes in particular much more civil.
>>98504047I think a lot of them are born in it, and probably raised in propaganda of heaven being bad, and being a traitorous sociopath being good.Its probably a lot of physical/material rewards, immediate power, money, etc. They probably don’t have the concept of “eternal reward” that heaven grants, or if they do, they probably don’t believe in it.
>>98504047>Infinite torture without hope of releaseSkill issue. Heretic better, climb the ladder, and become a noble. There's certainty in that, compared to religious life where you deny yourself, suffer and die, but might end up in hell anyway.>but you fight hell! That means you get to heaven!No, hell fights hell all the time. Do demons get to go to heaven for waging eternal war against hell? No, they do not. Demonic nobility fight among each other more than against the faithful, and it weighs nothing in god's scale.
>>98506326Not to mention your lifespan grows as you partake in atrocities of hell. Of course you have to do increasingly greater things, but you get favor as you live longer and blaspheme.
>>98502795Guys how do I play thai game?Shall I truck my penis?
>>98504047The promise of power of they work hard enough, the notion that they'll be the ones atop the world when Creation falls and God's kingdom is brought to its knees, not getting gigarpaed for failing to go along with the whims of their demon overlords, just being so broken they aren't even a person anymore, etc. And that's ignoring the kinds of people who likely get poached by the Beast or Metamorphosis.
>>98506964Trucks are more of a nuts thing, usually around the tail hitch.
>>98506311I do remember that but i wonder how much we'll get because the variety of models is really lacking right now
Question: If Hell can deploy half demon mutant weirdos (All Court units, Warwolves and Artillery Witches) why can Heaven Deploy their own Half Angel Mutants? Heaven and Hell have a "If I go this far, you can too" war agreement which is why earth is a proxy war because Hell fully invade without God causing the rapture. Is Heaven simply being too fair?
>>98510436Half-Angels as in Nephilim are not really a thing (as far as I know), so closes counter to half-demon would be Communicants imbued with fraction of Meta-Christ's power.Active involvement of angelic forces is not great even for Christendom, as they generally tend to nuke the whole battlefield causing casualties on both sides (which is technically honourable martyrdom, but the manpower will be missed elsewhere).
>play first game of the 2nd campaign>battle is a slaughter, I kill 7 of his, he 6 of mine>I barely win>trauma step>4 of my troops die, 1 elite gets an injury>none of his die, his elite gets a full recovery>I'm down 265 ducats and have to reinforcethis doesn't feel like a win at all 2bh.IDK why but I always completely shit the bed in the trauma step, even rolling an 11 for an elite with 3 skills in the last campaign. I lost ~1500 ducats and 23 Glory (including 3 Observers) worth of dudes+kit last campaign just because of insane bad luck in the trauma step. I don't even need advice I just wanna vent and feels sad.
>>98511329ah, classic Mordheim experience aka pyrrhic victory, you get used to it
>>98511349I just wish VP could actually buy something in these campaigns. Some scenarios don't even even have a glorious deed for winning so you could end up winning a game with 4 of your models out of action while taking out 7 of the enemy. Let's say for some reason you failed ot get any glorious deeds or the enemy did like 3 and you only 1.Then in the trauma step, you lose all 4 because unlucky while your enemy keeps all 7 and ends up being ahead in ducats and glory despite you dominating that game and having done everything right.I just dread the trauma step because it reliably sours the rush I feel from winning a match. And it can't even be mitigated in any way. The field hospital which costs an absurd amount of glory, is exploration result dependant (IIRC), has some extra stipulations and all you get is the CHANCE to remove a battle scar while also being at risk for getting a new one, so it doesn't even affect troops.I feel like I have at least some strategic input during all phases of the game, including exploration via certain exploration skills but in the trauma step I'm just 100% at the mercy of the dice and man have they been relentless in the past 15 games.
>>98510436Nephilim went extinct, far as we know. Crusading knights gathered some alloy they used in the past. Also god hates nephilim in christian lore, but we don't know what TC god thinks of them.
So what do people here think about gold in a campaign?Im currently playing a campaign and everyone is on like game 5-6, but theres a few people who are having a giant gold surplus and everyone else also doesnt seem very gold-starved anymore. Im guessing overabundance of gold is going to become quite common, the longer the campaign goes on.Would another way to spend excess gold be a good idea? And if so, what would it be? Obviously the gold limits are a good idea and necessary but lots of excess gold just feels very... awkward.
I don't care about your drama. I just thank ya'll for providing an awesome enough game that 40k needs to improve
Played a game of my New Antioch Albanian Lions of Ioannina vs some Trench Ghosts and won, though learning fireteams is tricky, what’s a good setup for blood markers?
>>98514817Hm yes, very organic looking post, surely no one will detect any shilling going on here.
Don't mind me, just being the best agnostic sculpt to come out of this place. No need to address my not being in the rulebook.
>>9851492340k criticism is tc shilling? Boy, do i have a glazing thread for you.
>>98515020>40k criticism>I totes don't play this game YA'LL but I love it so much YA'LL it's so awesome and [market leader] will have to step it up to compete YA'LL!!!Remember: SUBTLE!
>>98514778Currently surplus gold mostly just acts as a safety net that allows you to take major losses and still explore afterwards. Theoretically it does allow you to buy some spare models and equipment so that you can pick your loadout depending on the enemy I guess
>>98503590pretty much, there needs to be a reliable way to play online. the lore is great, but ive never met anyone who has even heard of the game. Needs a D&Dbeyond equivalent.
Does any body have any experience playing Trench Crusade on Tabletop simluator? Is there a good population of people playing?
Can someone fill me in on the TC drama?
>>98517424A big nothingburger. Some tertiary trying to stir up drama where no drama is to be found for clicks and clout.
Had to put my beefcake demon with fem shoulder-demon mini idea on hold due to circumstances but at least i got some terrain building done. A few steps closer to completing my trench network board.
>>98517619Alternate configuration
>>98517629Alt configuration with removed roofs
>>98517619>>98517629>>98517635My plan is to greeble up all the blocks to look similar to the two finished ones and then pain the base square to look muddy. I have one more square like that and a slightly smaller riser that i'm making into a larger command bunker.
>>98517635Nice progress! >>98514883Got to play another game in my campaign today, won resoundingly when my Albanian Lions took the fuel reserves despite heavy Prussian resistance, grenades, a satchel charge, and heavy machine gun fire. Amazingly the satchel charge did not wound two of the bunched-up Lions and its owner was shortly sent screaming back to his homeland.
New naval raider art
>>98517619>>98517629>>98517635>>98517650>>98517650Nice work, anon!
>>98519907>the satchel charge did not woundThat is fucking absurd. How??
The lore is boring because Hell is in a constant win-state. They've gotten everything they want and need. Endless suffering for centuries. They're all-powerful, unbeatable and can safely launch invasions from their Duchies in the Middle East. There's no risk to them. The only reason Hell hasn't won is because,>A genuine conquest would cause God to intervene>Le Infighting of Le Dukes
>>98521713>They've gotten everything they want>different lords have different desires>manifestedly NOT achieving goals such as>possessing the entire material worth of the world>destroying Creation utterly>mutating Creation in to something utterly unrecognizable to GodAnon, you are either a troll or a lorelet.
>>98521713>They've gotten everything they want and needExcept Alamut, Sultanate, New Antioch, Ireland, England, Northern Europe, Morocco, Spain etc.
>>98517424A series of mistakes that not even being amateurs could justify before the real shit happened that only the most ardent of fans will engage in misinfo acts of minimization and/or trivialization or ignoring valid observations.>Discord dramaThe drama was smallest but preventable as TC had the Inq28 guys run the de-facto official TC Discord. Then Arch fans/trolls/disgruntled Warhammer fans (rent free to this day) came in and doing their usual stuff the Inq28 mods went full retard and started banning and innocent others based on vibes and going "we don't care lmao." It was not a good look for the Inq28 teams and then TC officially sided with them that was an even worse look.Then there was stuff like Aztec trolling. An inq28 mod dunking on WH40k fans saying they won't like TC because women are in it and got clowned on for being wrong and 40k has loads of women. More Discord drama and banning, every critic even valid ones get called sexist.TC still sided with inq28 guys going full retard. Not a good look.>real shitLate KS books and 3D misprints.>Tuomas allegedly calls wargaming for economically privileged then releases GW priced official plastics>3D printing promises started falling apart. Especially when using Brandshield (GW supposedly uses) to trawl and DMCA basically anything remotely related to TC>New Community license stifling fan work founding promisesBasically everybody who tries to make stuff will get Chapterhouse'd except you'll lose if TC goes after you.The community is badly defensive. All valid criticism are said to be from Arch fans to trolls to chuds to WH40k fans to other rent free things to ignoring the problems or attacking sources.Bless companionanon still with TC. TC has burned so much it should be a case study like PP with Warmahordes.>Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20260626020847/https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Trench_Crusade#ControversiesExpect OG source to be defaced confirming above and other mentioned behaviors.
>>98521656those armors look heavy, how do they swim?
>>98524945Pretty sure it's less swimming and more walking along the bottom.
>>98517424TC basically shat on people who were Christian or "right-wing" trying to please the "woke left." Then are shocked that they didn't like that and left calling them out, which was funny as the woke even went after for some shit they did in their lore and all. Also their world building was pretty shit and people been calling it out as tumblr AU fanfic bad. Which didn't help they just ended up saying their was no canon and everyone can be right.They also had bad 3d models with resin traps, late books, and basically went back on not being like GW and went full GW the first chance they got.
I hope when they get to Athens they make it Byzantine-like instead of ancient LARP shit.
>>98521688Two ones on one roll and a one and a two on the others. I think one person got a blood marker, but that was it. Or we did something wrong, this was only my third game.
>>98526190I guess there it is then.
>>98525123lmao, die mad nigger
>>98523346Good post. Dont let shills itt try to bury all this. The incident at the sydney game con is anothet
Bumping the thread with my Lions of Ioannina, including John Woo Sniper Priest, an unfinished Sniper Priest kitbash, a Lieutenant missing his head, many Yeoman, two Trench Moles with Flamethrowers, two Heavy Machine Armor units (machine gun and flamethrower). The Flamethrower is making an offensive Italian gesture towards the heretics, and three shock troopers with greatswords. Using up some leftover Game of Thrones Lannister minis, really liking the look of a Stormcast base for Heavy Machine Armor. Tempted to kitbash some Winged Machine Armor for the Lieutenant just as a fun flex. Lore fluff is they’re a regiment fromAlbania who fought and failed to stop the destruction of Ioannina or Teppelini and thus wear those colors as they search for vengeance serving New Antioch.
>>98511349Mordheim notably allows you to bail as soon as you hit 25% losses (and you are almost always better off bailing at this point). Trench Crusade only gives you an RNG chance to bail at 50% losses, so you frequently end up getting almost completely wiped in a close game with no way of mitigating it.Given that the benefits of victory are often literally nothing besides an exploration reroll and some VP, it sours close bloody games in the aftermath when you roll badly in the trauma step afterwards, even though close games should be the most satisfying otherwise.
>>98525099ooohhhh
Are people looking forward to anything in particular from the Carcass Front box? I can’t wait to make some Naval Raiders since I have New Antioch and half-painted Iron Sultanate.
>>98527239You got a source for the Sydney game con involving Trench Crusade?I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere besides here. If you have a source make sure it is an archive link so the zealous TC fans here don't try to purge it.
>>98504616Is that in the physical book? I don't recall reading about this in any of the texts available in the website. Memory could be foggy though.
>>98526816Whatever fishfag. Love that you had nothing to say to counter what I said. Just trying to ragebait like a little bitch.It was clear the artist just want to make his random heavy metal art into a "personal 40K" setting. Though failed to make good lore or a good game for it. At least if they didn't put their foot in their mouths they wouldn't piss off half or more of their would be fans. Also doesn't help they fucked up their kickstarter
Let's discuss the new rulebook. Is there a reason to buy it if you have the Kickstarter one? Is anyone else disappointed to be an early adopter? Did they decide to print it for the general public because sales are dwindling?
>>98530859Who is the fishfag boogeyman? Is he Arch’s rent free replacement?>>98534417I gotta free up space and sell my Kickstarter book anyways.Given how trench crusade Kickstarter was handled it is more of a mark of shame to own one from my point of view.
>>98534417New art, lore and tutorials, rules will be up to date for a bitWargaming books are mostly for collection, all rules will be available online anyway
>>98525099metal
>>98522440They could get to New Antioch if the worldwide campaign goes well
>>98525123fuck off back to /pol/ you miserable grifter
>>98534804You just proved the defensive nature part of >>98523346 post.Is this a deliberate act to make trench crusade anons here look bad? It better be or something similar.
>>98525123/threadFuck TroonCrusade
>>98525123I'll give them a chance, for now. The art's decent. It's early days. Could use some Seb McKinnon
>>98525123>TC basically shat on people who were ChristianIf you can't understand satire and/or get your precious religion fee-fees hurt form TC then you should really get out more.
>>98538963>he thinks TC is satire Nah, the consultant actually went and proved the chuds right. https://www.trenchcrusade.com/trench-wire/lore/writing-for-trench-crusade-as-a-cleric/
>>98538996Then don't get your precious fee-fees offended then. You can't have your cake and eat to too.
>>98539073I'm not with those guys. Why'd you sage a post about your game? Weird unless you have some sort of /pol/ agenda the ordained catholic cleric's official announcements about TC don't line up with.
>taps the sign
>>98539094>the trench crusade article written by a guy hired by the devs about the game is /pol/ lmao the chuds are right, you guys are insane.
>>98539100No, just the kvetching about the >shat on people who were Christian or "right-wing" trying to please the "woke left."
No that anon but this is a reminder that if you get mad over some random dude "offending" your make-believe skydaddy/prophet/pasta-monster you really should get away from the cult and see other people. Preferably a shrink as well.
>>98502795How much should my Kickstarter rulebook go for at the lgs trade in program? Moving some stuff and backlog models as I’m getting my 3d printer ventilation set up.>>98523346It is kind of scary how you predicted behaviors the quite well and they’re happening.Maybe the wall of text to “hide” the predictions was a smart move. >>98539094Branding critics as the usual boogeyman isn’t helping trench crusade’s look anon.>containment I think this general is life supported containment. We have an AI op and the tq is requesting other games.
>>98539154What part of >not with those guys was too complex for you? >>98539174I think the made up skyman lines up really well with TC, they've got a cleric and everything vouching for it. I don't into Yahweh but looks like its fine? Makes it very clear its out of reverence and genuine interest rather than satire.
>>98523346TRVTH NVKE
I like a lot of options 3rd parties are putting together. Amazing terrain, fantastic models. A few are putting together unofficial rules content, even, that's super solid.
This game has some cool art but the "community" seems like a festering pit of inceldom and mental illness
>>98542682On here, definitely.In smaller groups, like creator locations and local store boards, my experience is it's a bunch of really chill people who like the models and want to play the game, but mostly don't, yet. (Around me, I dont know if people just aren't very online or what, but it feels like most of then regard it as just coming out, while I'm on, like, warband #7 or 8).
>>98539174I haven't seen much of that from actual adherents, just culture war vultures.No fatwa has been declared on TC, no declarations from the Pope.>>98542682That's 4chan for you.
>>98538996>>98539085Anon, anyone with sense understands exactly what it means.The only time this pic is brought up is to shitpost to the handful of trolls in the threads.
>>98543544Glad we agree. Its fairly clear common sense to show the specific moral divides in the game between the forces of hell and the rest of the planet. The writer's deep care and understanding of lore, Christianity and how its incorporated into the setting with reverence rather than satire sits well with a deeper reflection than with slapstick or political oriented owns about irl communities for weird reasons.
Planning to start playing and returning to paint miniatures. I really enjoyed the New Antioch aesthetics and the Papal States subfaction. Anything I should know that would before hand?
>>98544884be useful*
>>98523346>>98525123>>98530859>>98534444Stop samefagging, Fishfag. >inb4 "I'm not fishfag, you're fishfag!"I don't know how or why you found TC threads, but fuck off back to your OSR falseflag threads and stay there.
>>98543531TC literally consults religious authorities as they develop the world. They have a monk working on the latin of the game. People who don't practice religion, or have only superficial understanding of them, claim this game is attack against religion. Seen by how people claim sultanate has special treatment, when in islamic eyes the islamic factions are abhorrent. Its because they seek anything to throw at the game, and to confirm their already held beliefs of agenda.
>>98538996A bit weird seeing a religious Christian pulled in for tc advertising when this thing was meant to have that 80s-90s era anti Christian stuff.What happened that seems to be reversing that?
>>98545449>All valid criticism are said to be from Arch fans to trolls to chuds to WH40k fans to other rent free things>fishfagI don’t know who that is but it is frightening how accurate the cat poster is.
I'm continually impressed by the Heretic Commando designs people put out - I keep printing more, even though I'll never use more than one of them at a time.Same for Artillery Witches and Heavy Mechanized Infantry - just a ton of cool designs floating around.I think the only "official" sculpts I use are the tank hunters? One of our heretics warbands might have a few official sculpts mixed in there, too.
>>98547895Stop talking about yourself like you're a separate person, fish.
>>98548878I think its a different guy. Fish is vehemency anti acks for /lpol/ reasons. The poster you're linking here is far too critical of TC along chud lines, Fish can't compartmentalize that well.
>>98549442>along chud linesWhich poster or posters?Are you a crypto troll trying to validate 1d4chan speculation on Trench Crusade anons?TC has problems. Their 32mm scale was a big one. Should have been 28mm scale because that's where loads of the mini scales are for this particular side of miniature wargaming.
>>98546970Its funny how gullible you TC tards are you suck up every single lie Tuomas shovels down your throatTurns out the "Trappist Monk from the Vatican" who helps translate Latin texts for Trench Crusade is actually just some random Californian. Not even a real monk just a cleric in training at some random new LGBTQ church.He's not a Catholic. The Vatican would unironically consider the church he belongs to as heretical.Can't make this fucking shit up.
>>98551718Church he belongs toI shit you not"The Old catholic church was established in 1871 in respnse to the Roman Catholic church's increasing assertion of Papal Primacy"They're full blown gay activists that denounce the Pope
>>98551744Sourceshttps://www.trenchcrusade.com/trench-wire/lore/writing-for-trench-crusade-as-a-cleric/>Brother Nicholas Ceccarani>I am ordained to the minor orders within the Old Catholic Churchhttps://www.oldcatholicusa.org/https://www.dioceseofthepacific.org/>The Diocese of the Pacific is LGBTQ-affirming and welcomes all people, regardless of gender identity or sexual orientation. https://www.dioceseofthepacific.org/clergy>Nicholas is now pursuing formation within the Old Catholic traditionAre we really surprised that the clergy TC is working with are in fact subversive gay heretics? No, not really
>>98551718>>98551744I was always under the impression that pulling in a priest was Tuomas trying to course correct Trench Crusade's lore and win back lost early supporters. Looks like a weird attempt to please his audience and try to win back what was lost in the beginning. Are those TC plastic boxes selling good by non-Warhammer standards? I can't really imagine them selling well considering that the warband box is worse value than a Warhammer 40k Krieg squad box.No matter the context when a company advertises itself to be better than the biggest boy in the playground including monetary accessibility it should never be priced like that. Not everybody can afford a place for a 3D printer.>inb4 don't like don't buyI think that's what's happening and why a priest was pulled up in some attempt to try and get the burned out original backers back. We're probably seeing attempts at lore fixing to gain them back as of writing this post.
>>98551766ntayrt Largely agree about the course correction but think the optics shift is amusing. If the push was for an inclusivity agenda the presentation of the church and Brother Nicolas Ceccarani would have had more >>98551744than >>98538996Not sure if its indicative of an overall pendulum shift and the positioning around it but its neat to watch.
>>98551718>He's not a Catholic. The Vatican would unironically consider the church he belongs to as heretical.>"he believes in the same fairytales slightly differently from me!"
>>98553119People like you are fucking insufferable Just like vegans, marathon runners, people that don’t like sports - you’re life feels empty if you can not share your “controversial” opinion with othersWe get it, you don’t believe in religion, but while you think this makes you superior to everyone else, it just makes you annoyingWhy are you even here?This doesn’t seem like something that should interest you at all
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>>98517047TTS is right over there my guy
>>98504047Threadly reminder that faithful don't actually have concrete proof that they go to heaven for being good boys and girls. Someone in the setting who sees everything going on coming to the conclusion that everyone is going to hell anyways and I may as well fight for the winning team to be maybe a little less tortured is understandable.
>>98517424Trad cath larpers got mad when the creator told them to go fuck themselves and also he didn't make muslims inherently evil.
>>98521713>They've gotten everything they wantAnon you can't be so stupid to believe the literally embodiments of hubris and desire could ever be satisfied with the way things are.
>>98554041>This doesn’t seem like something that should interest you at allYou can enjoy a fantasy setting without thinking it's real.
>>98554414No, but having such utter contempt for the subject matter seems like it would be a deterrent
>>98551766>course correct Trench Crusade's loreCorrect what?The lore has been extremely stable in it's presentation from the start.If anything, there was someone with fairly strong knowledge of Christianity and Islam from the start, because the various low heresies that fuel the Faithful war effort are subtle enough that most nonpractitioners don't even realize them when they see them.That is not the work is the ignorant or disdainful; I would love for the devs to announce they have been running the lore by an Imam and Rabbi they know to make the haters heads' pop like Scanners.>>98554603Fantasy != reality, anon, stop trolling or getting so butthurt about other people's opinions on the internet.
>>98556602>The lore has been extremely stable in it's presentation from the start. Unrelated to this argument about politics but the lore has changed over the years. Paladins went from a creation of a breeding program to being perfect 'Communicants'. Tuomas has spoken about how Artillery Witches were originally robots and then later changed to no one knows what they are. None of these changes are politically motivated but the lore was clearly being created as they made the game.I am pretty sure if someone compared all the old social media lore to the current rulebook there will be a lot of contradictions.
>>98556679>Paladins went from a creation of a breeding program to being perfect 'Communicants'Easily could be combined, as the perfect Communicant would require the right geneology, combined with the blood of Christ.>WitchesI don't think that even really applies, because all the lore surrounding them speaks of them being 'creations' made in Hell's forges.
>>98556686>Easily could be combined, as the perfect Communicant would require the right geneology, combined with the blood of Christ.That isn't mentioned in the new lore, unless you want to share something?I cannot find any new lore which mentions the descendants of Christ at all. >lore surrounding them speaks of them being 'creations' made in Hell's forges.The new lore says this is a rumour while the old lore says this is 100% the case. This is a deliberate change which the writers have spoken about.
>>98530175I’m excited for the campaign book. The scatter terrain is nice too, but I love terrain.
>>98556679There was some lore on Baphomet being the herald of Lucifer, iirc. Its not in current official sources. I hope they keep that, because that sounds cool.
>annointed spam raiders>communicant spam pillgrims but need a handler for every 2seems like bit tough cookies for C7S, others seem very fireball-able
>>98544884For New Antioch, they don’t have any unit that is exceptional when compared to any of the other factions. Where they shine is their “Fireteam” ability, which lets them activate two models at once and a cheaper 3-blood dice bloodbath to incentivize focusing fire. You can get 2 fireteams in base New Antioch and Papal States. You’ll want one model in the fireteam to add blood markers, and the second to use the Bloodbath to spend those blood markers and make it very likely the model really dies. Flamethrowers and grenades are good at adding blood markers. Heavy Machine Armor is a heavy weapons platform with their Strong keyword, I have a Machine Gun and a Heavy Flamethrower one. Food for thought. The Papal States rely on their Trench Clerics to give models Blessing dice or make them fearless for close-combat, which helps Shocktroopers. That’s the highlights, hope this helps. Here’s my New Antioch Lions from Albania.
Companion guy here, reposting some infoNow that Carcass Front rules are being posted I want to let it be known that we had received these rules early so we can prep for release. Thanks to this, we are very close to making things feature complete. I wanted to let you know what to expect in (hopefully) the next week.> All new Factions, Subfactions, Patrons, etc are included in full in our next release> Scenarios and Glorious Deeds are included in name only for use in Campaign Trackers> Exploration Locations have all their rules included, if you want the flavour text you'll next to purchase the expansion.> Warbands will have an 'expansions' section which will let you toggle on/off the Carcass Front> When toggled on, you have access to a digital trackerI also want to mention that, for now and the next decent while, Trench Companion / Anchorite Support will be a one man show. I am still working hard, but naturally this means things may take a bit more time. For example I've been dealing with influenza the past couple weeks, and there isn't another dev to pick up the email slack. For that I apologize, but the train is still going!
>>98556602>I’ll just be insulting about this particular religion and double down on it to show everyone how edgy I amWho’s being a troll here?Enjoy sucking cocks in hell
>>98561648Thanks Companion anon. Hope you feel better soon.
>One of my Stigmatic Nuns got promoted to elite >In the very next battle she claimed 3 fucking glory points and won me the battle with a last second rush to an objective>In the advancement phase she got Champion AND a patron skillAt this point I should just make this girl into my new Prophet, that's a saint in the making right here
>>98564666She is getting fast-tracked to prophet indeed.
>>98546970The "monk" they have is not part of an Order recongized by the Catholic Church
>>98553119Huge cope. Go suck on a "female penis" with the rest of the creeps on the TC discord
60 seconds on the official discord. I didn't know it was this bad. What a fucking joke. Anyway, I bought some crusader knights and WW1 miniatures so I'm excited to get some kitbashing done.
Those new plastics Louise showed off look fucking good. Still not buying of course, however if it's on sale for half off I'll snag a box.
>hear about TCAh, cool beans>hear about them disregarding moronsAh, cool beans?>hear about them going the GW routeThis is no longer cool beans.
>>98566317that discord is basically a huge shitshow run by literal dildo-sucking tranny cucks, just go to the boomerbook>>98569235>>hear about them going the GW route>This is no longer cool beans.That was a geedubs shill psyop m8
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>>98564666people play trench crusade in the trench crusade general instead of complaining about dumb pol shit?impossible, must be the work of Satan
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>>98547880It never did, chud. You imagined a problem and got mad about it, go touch grass
Should I bleach my anus to play this game?
Call me a retard but, on the one hand, I'd like to give this game a go because I like building terrain. And it seems like it may be made for cool pieces. On the other there's not a single space on the web to talk about it without shitposting and left-right squabble. Fuck the creators for not culling that discord drama at the very beggining.
>>98570044>impossible, must be the work of SatanWell, the post number speaks for itself To be serious, me and my group really do enjoy the game a lot and I'd love this general to look at least somewhat sensibly, but alas, what can a man do against such reckless spergout >>98571634From my experience it's really mostly here, while they're obviously far from perfect from other reasons, I'm on a bunch of TC focused fb groups and discord channels and they're all completely chill and politics free, just people enjoying the hobby really
>>98504616But how do they sustain a viable population capable of supporting a centuries long war? It says heretics eat their own babies and sell baby meat in markets. So if all the babies (or at least a good portion of them) are being eaten or otherwise killed/sacrificed on satanic rituals, it stands to reason that the heretics would have faced complete demographic collapse by now.This setting makes no fucking sense, even by its own internal logic.
>>98571788I mean they’re probably all fucking and raping each other, I’m sure plenty of babies survive and are raised to continue the cycle of fucking and raping.
>>98571914Not when there's also a centuries long war of attrition meat grinder going on as well. The heretics, as currently written, should not have any human soldiers left. Any humans living in their territory should have long died out and it should just be all demons now.
>>98566317Looks like a groomingfest
>>98572001trannies need to be made to feel unwelcome in gaming communities or they will never leave.
sooooare we actually going to discuss all the New TC news or is this a shitfest
Wew, I just expected to get a mini or two, but the Carcass Front rewards from the kickstarter are quite nice.
Any chad anons here getting the new STLs from Mini factory and want to put the files here
>>98572257I bought the Iron Shrine stuff, idk how to share it here tho
Oh look the insufferable faggots in this thread were wrong once again
I'm loving the lore I'm reading. It really gets a giggle out of me.>year of broken trinity 1666>hell is gaining ground>Vatican beliefs they have to act now>pontiff himself is leading the charge to levant with his personal communicant>Vatican navy gets ambushed by the heretics>pope and his communicant get captured>submarine holding the pope beaches and the communicant comes out>communicant had eaten the pope and had become a powerful and schizophrenic super communicant>communicant had killed the crew inside the submarine>now he guards a lighthouse called Jonah's Tower>the hulls of the sunken ships from the sea battle have drifted to shore and are inhabited by schavenger warlords>water is now toxic enough to create mutants and "unholy beasts">people still dive to get supplies and relics from there>people speak of bomb in the sunken capital ship that can burn nations>vatican had attempted to nuke the heretical middle east
>>98572292anonfiles, just don't forget to encrypt the links the usual way
>>98572438I know your frustration.I just wish the overpriced plastic got lowered a significant amount to make the game more accessible. At the moment they contradict the accessibility thing when their price quantity is worse than a single gw guard box. It is never a good look and not even indie studio covers it.
>>98572561>60 bucks for a whole complete army>20 bucks for individual mini types, like Sniper priests>40 for a Set of minis which make up the majority of your warbandyou're insane if that's overprieced. a Guardsman box is barely a fraction of your total army even in 1k. While most TC boxsets can be or ARE your army. One purchase and you're done. Its apples to oranges.
>>98572210It is a shitfest. Many of us are just tired of broken promises and just cling to tc to laugh like Star Wars fans did when the bad prequels came out and our hopes were dashed of good media.Others are in denial of the broken promises or desperately downplay the mistakes like that makes things look good somehow. The choices and defense behaviors are why many assume trench crusade is a rugpull or a grift. Both words are fitting.Part of why I come back here is to pity bump this general but I usually hope for good news like FFI coming clean and apologizing and then actually making up for the mistakes. But they’re pulling words out of GW’s playbook. Not pages yet. Also the autism defense is very 40k flavored. Not in a chud flavor but still an annoying one. >>98566317 pic shows it. If you like toxic positivity minefields where one moment of existing out of line misinterpreted or not means angry bigoted true colors are shown and you get harassment that will be condoned then I guess it is better than the arch boogeymen we still blame unless a different one has taken arch’s place.
>>98572652Spoken like a privileged lad that isn’t blocked out of the walled garden tuomas said he was to be against. Then again a big fat Kickstarter funding would make us all turn out broken promises into a grift.
Fuck this faggot ass game. Km happy my flgs doesnt let people play it on their tables
>>98572701Rules are free. You can use cheaper minis if you want. There is no rule stating that you have to use official minis. There is no wall around the garden.
>98572712found the 40fag
>>98572652Some 40k armies requires you to get a fucking 1k bucks of modelsTC is pretty cheap given low model count and model agnosticism. I just print most of my shit lmao
>>98572843>>98572858Please say you’re arch chuds switching gears to be dumb defenders of trench crusade now.I’m begging you both to just be honest for once in your lives.Part of the pricing being bad is because tuomas is not leading the industry by being an outlier to the walled garden status quo of badly priced plastics. The naked truth is in front of your eyes and you all deny and defend the grift.Why?
>Noooo you cant make a profit and price the same as everyone else, kits must be 2 cents!!!sure would I love if TC was the clover valey of Minis, but for the quality of their product and how small Skirmish games are this is properly and respectfully priced if you're not a moron
>>98572876Nigger i have Guard and Mechanicus armies, you don't fucking know how good you have itTC shit is a literal steal compare to how fucked geedubs shit is, moulds and logistics cost a fuckton and the teafags produce locally
Fuck i doubleposted like a retardMy bad
>>98572876Pricing might not be competitive, but they don't have the size for smaller prices. Unlike GW technically could, since they could buy large bulks of stuff, and sell for cheaper than the competition.Again, its not a walled garden. You not having official tc minis doesn't wall you from the game.
For those of us with jobs, can someone explain who the FUCK arch is? I've seen this nigga mentioned like 30 times in this thread.
>>98573414youtuber, before the kickstarter he tried to threaten his way onto the project and his fan got booted from the t28 discord when femstodes drama was happening and he continues to bitch about the game
So for lack of a comparison base, are we considering the new "warband lists" to be equivalent to more expanded SM chapters like Blood Angels, https://www.trenchcrusade.com/trench-wire/gaming/on-factions-warband-lists-and-warband-variants/
>>98571993kinda lore-cope but demons are incredibly intelligent (just self serving) so I imagine they're very good at managing population especially since they have literal lust magic in some places and regular old can-force-humans-to-do-anything strength everywhere else.
>>98572210New knights looks cool. But kit bashing will always be cooler even if they don't look as good. There's just something so personal having unique models nobody else has. I've recently listened to a short story by Graham McNeill, not bad, I mean as far as short stories go.>>98572001I'm still on the discord. It's like watching a car crash.
>>98571993I think your taking the setting way to seriously. I understand it's important to keep things somewhat realistic but I wouldn't get bent over small tidbits like population growth and sustaining it under wartime, especially if there are very reasonable explanations one can think of on their own. For example, human breeding program, mass sustained rape and military orphanages, demon magic that let's women pop out babies in a fraction of the time. All of these can be true or not, it's a mystery. I hope they don't try to explain every little thing, that would ruin the magic.
>>98523346The discord drama was a masterful inside job that allows Trench Crusade to shrug off any of the myriad valid criticisms as "chud whining"
>>98573832Yes basically, from what I can tellProcessions are a Sub of Pilgrims, who have their own subfactions who use their rules as a base. Its an odd system
>>98566317>this is bad because uhhh, it just is
>>98572933I’m not gonna read beyond the first word. Nice of you to show you’re from the Arch-camp.>>98572965Tuomas talked and didn’t do the walk is what I wanted to say about this. So they should have been competitively priced but it doesn’t matter now. As much as I hate to say it but a place doesn’t get this much shitting on unless there is some genuine deserving percentage of it. I come back every now and then in hopes things got better only to be disappointed. At least someone has bid 100 usd on my Kickstarter book so I’m getting a “reimbursement” in one way. Maybe things will turn around but I’m not counting on it.
>>98573788Thanks Anon.
>Fuck the creators for not culling that discord drama at the very beggining.That's exactly what they did, and chuds have been screeching about it ever since
>>98574486>Nice of you to show you’re from the Arch-camp.Literally who|Fag, i don't watch tiktok slop and circlejerk to dram, i play the game
>>98573832>SM chapters like Blood Angels,Neck yourself N
>muh ArchMajor cope that TCfags bring up anytime people point out problems with their "game" many are also butthurt they got rugpull'd kek
>heard there was some TC news>check thread>nothing but nothingburger drama falseflaggingWhy is every ongoing project like this
>>98576894troons
>>98576894They're releasing some new models and making a sub-sub faction. The models are nice, factions are whatever. Not much to discuss.>>98577131It's always them. They have a psychological need to ruin everything.
>>98574392get a job yet lilith? time to work on that bro, a dude like you shouldn't be living with his mother. you're a grown man.
>>98538996>It avoids both extremes, the oversimplification of "pure good versus pure evil"He said, while Literal Hell and the Devil's army are a faction, that want to destroy all of humanity
Your general fucking sucks, it's just the same culture war bullshit all the rime.
>>98580712Content is slow and shitposters are many. Maybe we got something to talk about when the Carcass Front event concludes. Although what happens will be revealed later after results checked by TC devs.
>>98580712Jannies on /tg/ are useless, discord trooners keep raiding the general
Do you guys think Assassins are supposed to be wearing some sort of mechanised/power armour? Or is it just a regular kind? I'm asking mostly because of all of the pipes and stuff they have going there which suggests some sort of a mechanismAsking for an RPG
>>98581406I think the pipes are probably integrated into them somehow, I don’t think they’re necessarily in power armor, but moreso barely human anymore through a combination of rudimentary “cybernetics” and alchemy in order to do their time shit. But thats just my guess.We’ll probably learn a lot more about them when Fidai becomes its own faction soon.
>>98581406RPG trench crusade? Sounds fun.Is there a unofficial book you can link me or did you just home brew it?
>>98581406It could be but I'm not a fan of power-amour in this setting or anything too high tech. I want to keep things done by magic or al chemical means as much as possible.I like to think the assassin is some mutated freak that's kept alive via some suit like Darth Vader or still suits from Dune.
>>98581406>>98581919>I don’t think they’re necessarily in power armor>a combination of rudimentary “cybernetics” and alchemy in order to do their time shitthat's my guess too; they become some kind of primitive cybrog in order to use their super sand ninja powers and their armor is more of a containment suit for their augmentations rather than actual platingthere is power armor but it's those huge full plate orichalcum suits worn by some elite crusaders
>>98582564I'm in the process of homebrewing it, it's a hack for Only War. Turned out to be much more work than I anticipated and I not always have time to work on it, but it's very fun and satisfying. I'm around 66% done with a rough early version that I could actually post here, it'll be around 100 pages long when finished (that's only the stuff that's actually new/changed in regards to the original OW rulebook). But I did run one test session already and it went really nicely, players had lots of fun
>>98582615I don't like "magitech" stuff too much, but I also would prefer the tech level to simply be kept around that of the actual WW1 with occasional rare dieselpunk-ish advancements
Now that most of the Carcass Front stuff has been revealed and shown, when can we expect it to be in Trench CompanionAlso, not to add to TCanons workload, but can we ever expect something like the War Journal that Warhammer got to make tracking games easier? Rn all we got is a Post Battle report system which is okay, but not as good. No Offense obv I love you TCanon
>>98581406>TC rpgbased? Explain the systems
A TC rpg isn't a bad idea What would be the systems?Every PC has 2 "tough", Enemies has more or less depending on size and armor class, roll on a simplified wound table to determine injury (loss of limb, loss of an eye, etc)Need a 7 to do most things, but can add or lessen that with skills? Things like that. Could be interesting to workshop
>>98584197Like I said here >>98583414 , it's an Only War hack, so if you've ever played any sort of Warhammer RPG system (pre 4th ed WHFRPG) the core mechanics will be basically the same. So:>D100 roll under>9 attributes with skills connected to them and talents for special traits, abilities and passive bonuses >PCs will be members of some sort of military formation, either faithful or heretic >there will be rules for creating your formation, with its specialisation, combat doctrine, traditions, home region etc. affecting what sort of skills and equipment all PCs from it have easy access to>each PC has a specialisation (basically class) which determines their starting skills and give them some unique abilities. There will be both universal specialisations (like heavy weapons guy, engineer, medic etc.) and faction specific specialisations (cleric, stigmatic nun, heretic priest, sultanate alchemist etc.) >character advancement is point buy, but each PC has discounts on certain types of advancements based on their specialisation>Combat is pretty deadly and tactical, somewhat crunchy, but fast and instinctive once you get the gist of it>There are also rules for quickly handling comrades: the NPC squad-members supporting the characters in various ways>I will also include stats and rules for various TC-appropriate equipment, vehicular combat, supernatural abilities (miracles, goetic sorcery, Assassin and Observer abilities) and psychic effects (Fear, insanity, moral corruption)Will obviously post it here once its actually ready to show, I mostly have battleforce/character creation stuff to write left
>>98584314I want to run my own campaign; if you could post your homebrew id appreciate it. How do you get it to function in Roll20?
>>98584314I don't know much about making an RPG system but my opinion is the lower the page number the better. I've opened up some RPGs and see the page count like 200-300 plus and was immediately turned off. Keep it short and simple so it's easy to play.
Had a great game tonight where the Lions of Ioannina went up against the Iron Sultanate trying to reclaim relics and barely came out ahead. 10-8, pulling away thanks to Glorious deeds. My Sniper Priest using the bell-scope of an Albanian monastery blew away the Jabirean alchemist real quick, causing them to get both the sniper and make an opponent fall Deeds. My own Trench Cleric really came through, siezing an objective while the opposing Brazen Bull failed to do so, getting us to parity.
Are the STLs still fucked? I was thinking of getting some yeomen to start.
Which sculptor/creator makes the best TC miniatures?
>>98585845>Death to all unpainted minisNice game anon. I just had my first game of trench crusade, no pics though.I played Prussia, borrowed army since mine are still in the mail, against black grail. Sniper priest took a knight and thrall. The Lieutenant took a shotgun to the face and survived to slay the beast with his guts sized sword. My cleric was beaten to death by three enemies but a grenade and flame thrower made quick work of them. I killed everyone except for his sniper on a three stories building that was pretty much impossible to climb
>>98586095Wym?
>>98586221Janovich said there were still STLs with problems in the follow-up video. I can't seem to get an honest, up-to-date answer from anyone about whether they're still working on fixing the problems with the models.
>>98580712Other generals for games with outspoken and vocal haters are absolutely fine but every time I check the trench crusade general it's the same retarded faggots fellating their favourite e-celeb podcasters and spamming "rugpull".Are the said cocksucking podcasters still talking about trench crusade, or are these anons just choosing to continue to post here months and years later of their own volition?
>>98586343/awg/tist here.I don’t believe a game gets this kind of level hatred just for giving chuds the heckin’ door shown. There has to be far more to it to why trench crusade gets a lot of hate. Personally I think it warmahordes’d itself too soon by rocketing too high too quickly.Anyways I think a lot of the activity here is just an effort to keep trench crusade off /awg/./40kg/ regarded as a mess of a general still has less shitslinging by population percentage than here.
>>98586680>still has less shitslinging by population percentage than hereBecause, as people have been saying for months, it is a concerted effort to shitpost about the game anywhere that isn't regulated.
>>98546970Im kind of a gun nut myself so trust me when I say the 2A only applies to muskets.
>>98556742>unless you want to share somethingThat I said it could easily be harmonized in as part of the explanation for why there are so few paladins, not that there is anything written as such.>>98561667see>>98546970Shitposts remain shitposts, and the jannies are in on it.
>>98586907>the jannies are in on itWhere were you guys calling out janny bias when it was in favor of trench crusade? Used to be that even valid criticism resulted in temps. I think the bias has contributed to tc not having a good rep here.
>>98586943>Where were you guys calling out janny bias when it was in favor of trench crusadeYou mean when the jannies would delete obvious shitposts and spammers?The horror! The moderation team actually doing their jobs!
>>98587105>You mean when the jannies would delete obvious shitposts and spammers?Yes. And so many valid criticism and concerned posts got hit so many times that it could not have been collateral damage mistakes.>the horrorYeah it was pretty bad. Anons who realized there was a bias and had to tip toe their criticism and question posts like redditors trying not to lose their precious upvotes. It didn’t make the vibes good and it soured perception of tc. The shitposts this general gets is probably their “revenge.”>moderation team actually doing their jobsYou count incompetence and bias as a good thing when it favors you? Really chud coded there. Please say you’re a chud larper and I fell for your bait. It would look less bad for you and trench crusade here.
>>98585621That's fair, but personally I do like my RPGs to have plenty of ready content and options to choose from and at least some amount of crunch, especially when it's a combat heavy convention like in the case of TC. So I'm doing it that way, also to cover all types of factions and weird character types that can be played here. But for anyone who feels like making some more rules-light homebrew I of course encourage them to do so>>98585609I certainly will once I actually have it all properly written down in a form that's legible for others and that I'm comfortable with sharing. >How do you get it to function in Roll20?No clue about that, I only really run face-to-face games
>>98581406in my head the pipes are a mix of Bane-style drug injectors and cooling system.
>>9858634390% of it is fishfag falseflagging and the rest is assorted turbo-autists shitting up the general due to grifters pointing them towards the game.
>>98572686>Many of us areStop acting like you're a plurality, you piscine faggot.
Has anyone scanned the carcass front book yet?Way too broke to buy the box
>>98589443Not yet sadly, but if you're a KS supporter you'll get all that free anyways
>>98589730Not the models unfortunately which is very gay. There are some stls coming in thereTbh I've actually been annoyed there's no big scanning effort for the plastic models atm. I was hoping all the griping would result in some people actually trying to make them as a 'fuck you' but instead nothing has happened
Huhu Andrei Andrejewitsch Andrejew ! :3
>>98502795>>98591833Dumping some kewl grimdark pics since this setting is 90% a e s t h e t i c s, anyway.Not saying that's bad btw. Entirely vibes based In the best possible sense.
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>>98592422I wanna commit a heresy!
>>98592380I love the concept of an Artillery Wolf as a version of the War Wolf
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>>98523346bro you forgot the resin traps in the STLs which i think is pretty fucking bad.Whilst not TC models i recently had to clean up a resin trap and that shit sucks.Bunch horses burst open like rotting fruit, despite proper PPE my skin was burning through the places the fumes could get.>The community is badly defensive.To be fair literally every community on this board is like thatif you are negative about something someone on this board likes, there's a good chance you'll end up in a screaming match with someone who is mad you have this opinion and is trying to tight cast you into this other guy he argued that one time.
>>98581406It's drugs.Those hassassin are likely just hotboxing their armour.
>>98581406Gas mask filled with Allah's own Hashish that unmoors (ha) you from time and space a little bit. Probably a touch of alchemy too.
>>98592305Spooky.
>>98592380This was a Futurama joke> No one is that is that observant…
Will be starting Trench Crusade soonNaval Raiders don't interest me so I got the Prussian starter set plus pic related from the Marchers wargame for Prussian Mechanized Infantry and then I ordered some quality Trench Ghost proxies with a tank palanquin model. Pretty hyped. Hoping that Carcass Front gets more people around my city playing
>>98607874And pic related for the Trench Ghosts
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MMF stopped shitting itself so i finally got my carcass front kickstarter stuff, neat
Have they said when the carcass box warbands will be getting stand alone releases?
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My great hunger models arrived!
really like the art for the naval raiders in the carcass front book, idk why but i find the sea hag hot
>>98612359It's a Kshatriya
>>98576894For me as an IS player it's pretty much a bust.IS having been crying out for a new patron for ages and they serve us up this House of Wisdom bullshit.Handing out AP/dum dum ammo to a faction who's best guns pretty much live and die from being able to cheaply get +1 dice to hit via alchemical ammo. Being able to get a +1 dice to Dash is nice, but the rest are varying degrees of shit.Hell the last homunculus exclusive ability is both shit and doesn't work as non-LOS charges aren't allowed in the current rules. And any Faithful warband can take the St. Bartholomew patron, but it's so obviously geared towards Trench Pilgrims it's not really worth considering.Part of it is because Sublime Gate has two very strong options in being able to cherry pick a melee skill, or pilfering something from the NA armoury. It just feels half baked and poorly thought through.
Did anyone else notice? The alchemist on the patron list page is the alchemist from the Blood and Iron story. The text implies Leonid is taking part in battles to stop Leviathan from getting free.
>>98616744Forgot the image
Anybody else get their Carcass Front box today?
>>98618140Got mine through a third party retailer so it's been hit with the archon special
Guess the age of archon crusade might be coming to an end?
>>98618935woops forgot pic related
>>98618846The book is pretty nice, good artwork and all, I’ve only gotten the chance to flip through it so farI haven’t snipped out any of the miniatures yet but they look like decent quality - much better than the bunk-ass resin trench pilgrims I got a few weeks ago
>>98618935>>98618940I hope this is the beginning of a good course correction. Hopefully influenced by the community speaking with their wallets and so the next sets will be competitively priced. As for me I'm just gonna keep using STLs and the free rules. Freeloading off Trench Crusade if you will. Sunk Cost Fallacy is powerful. I'll at least make sure my models are "flexible" for different systems like what first post mentioned: >>98502816
>>98619220They're probably tired of problem outside of their control fucking them over with production, first onlygames during the KS and now archon delaying their big box release.
>>98622042I mean it is nice that they're trying to fix things.The damage is still done. I just don't feel confident that these future plastic models will be properly priced compared to historical models and especially compared to GW. I want to be wrong though. Like better quantity models per box than what GW offers per box etc. Hopefully with no license stuff to Archon they'll actually price their plastics properly so the game won't be a walled garden. But I'm gonna stick with printed STLs. Like I said sunk cost fallacy is powerful stuff and I do need something other than Warhammer and Historical to paint.
Hello Anons. My friends want to try this game, and I was thinking of playing the Ethiopians since Aksum is pretty neat. I read through the rules and they seem to have a lot of changes from the basic Antioch stuff. Does anyone have experience with these guys? Does it work pretty well? I don't need to play the best thing, but I don't want to spend a bunch of time kitbashing and painting just to have something that sucks.
>>98622420To be quite honest Anon I think they're possibly the trickiest variant of the most high skill floor faction in the game (maybe ex aequo with the Irish). Antioch requires very good unit coordination and positioning. But they are certainly playable and I think their bonuses more or less balance out their drawbacks. The game has a very strong element of randomness anyway, so analysing things "in the void" often has little to do with how they actually play out.Strongly reduced access to machine armour makes them incredibly squishy, with 0 big guys and a maximum of one genuinely extra tanky unit, which will probably be an issue.They have some very nice melee bonuses, but lack in genuinely hard hitting melee weapons to properly capitalise on that, although their shotels combined with melee bonuses could be used for crit fishingThey also have plenty of extra healing/blessing options, which is useful, but not really gamechanging. Their flanking special rule is pretty cool and I could see it being very useful in some scenarios, it also combines nicely with their melee speciality, since it allows them to get to the enemy fasterIf I were to play them, I would focus on melee and assault weapons (with maybe one guy with some stronger ranged weapon to provide at least some firepower, or a few later in the campaign). Get maximum of Clerics/Holy Warriors fast so they start gaining xp and buy one of them a tabot asap so he can make best use of his blessing sharing ability.Use your heals and blessings heavily to protect your frontliners from damage. Good luck and have fun Anon, they are certainly a very flavourful variant, I'd also strongly consider them if I were ever to play Antioch
>>98623060Thanks so much for the response! It sounds like a fun challenge.
Got a shipping email for carcass front, let's hope royal mail doesn't fuck me over and it takes 2 weeks
>>98624153>let's hope royal mail doesn't fuck me over and it takes 2 weeksThey will. My order from WGA from the UK warehouse to Canada and not the USA for whatever reason package looked like it got used as a rugby ball when it arrived and it was wet.No sprues were damaged somehow.
I know nothing about this game, will they sell those underwater dudes outside of the starter set? I like those underwater dudes.
>>98504047>>98504058>>98504098>>98506326>>98507220The answer is actually super simple. Believing in god is gay and believing in satan is based. I choose the devil IRL and I will choose the devil ingame. Christcucks seething over being banned from the discord also empowers me btw.
>>98612359I still can't believe everyone wants to fuck the artillery witch that's not even a person, when the objectively superior waifu exists.
>>98546970This.I was briefly involved in making a Ben Hur-esque latin march for New Antioch.Got put down fairly hard when I suggested using pig latin instead, despite that arguably being more 'realistic' to late medieval to 1915's church music.Also yeah, people complaining about the IS clearly just think Islamic forces were only ever Isis-tier turban wearing suicide bombers, and have never read a history book or heard the word Ottoman.
>>98624330Mini sprues are surprisingly tanky when nothing's been clipped.I wouldn't toss boat kits at a wall, but anything with a strong barrier of plastic around the sides of the mold you can practically treat like a Frisbee.
>>98589072Or just stop pretending they didn't scam over the majority of the community
>>98592380Wait... this shell is holy because 1. Its not explode so it is a "saint" good shell? Or 2. This is a nice shell to finally destroy some strong demonic being when he would step near it?
>>98625887Choosing nuns is cringe, I choose the flesh robot who throws bombs from the third circle of hell
The reason why people hate you guys is because you sperg the fuck out over the mildest criticism. Because anyone who simply disagrees is either right wing, a troll, an arch fan or 40k fanboy.
>>98502795How would you adapt Trench Crusade into a video game, /trench/?
>>98626290the most telling aspect of it is whatever potential the setting has to be anything other than raped by tranny communists on arrival is never drawn out of anything the shills in these threads are saying, because they are just part of the problem in the first place
>>98626290>Rent free. The post.
>>98546970Shut the fuck up faggot
>>98626042I think it's based off trench art, since they probably have a lot of artillery shells lying around.
Carcass Front released and I'm genuinely surprised how hard it is to find people to play with just outside of a big city in America. All the major game shops don't even sell it but do long to. What the hell is going on?>Building my first models tonight>>98551763>>98551744Disgusting I knew there was no legitimacy when they went as far as saying the metachrists were church doctrine. Makes me want to play Cavalcade at least but that's so disheartening of the writing. >>98553119>Slightly differentEven from a secular point of you that's embarrassing levels of naive and ignorant. >>98626290Okay cool, let's try having fun and playing the game then
>>98629110Very cool
>>98553119Cope
To TrenchCompanion anonI have encountered some issue with selecting "no promotion" for the promo roll after the first campaign game, also the app doesn't let me edit the failed dice number on the bottom in any way other than adding other zeroes after the first zero.Please advise.In the meantime i ended up manually editing the number of dice.
