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>News
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>Current Banlist
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>Bracket Information
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>Precons
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TQ: Do you unironically have a space-themed deck? Looking forward to building one once Trek releases?
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>TQ
No. And also no.
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>>98509364
>TQ
I do not. I am looking forward to Trek but have no interest in a deck themed on space.
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I'd sooner self-fuck myself than even think of letting a Star Trek card being anywhere near me.
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>>98509364
>TQ
No and no. Only card I have associated with space in any way is the Dimir boardwipe + mill effect from EoE for my Golbez deck.
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Is there a way to make this card lose all of it's abilities once i've stolen all/most lands? in a monoblack deck. i was thinking about using hexmage to get rid of them but that would only work one time
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what the fuck is going on?
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>>98509391
Is moistcritikal opening boxes again?
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>>98509396
idk who that is
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>>98509391
the last part of the remake series will be releasing in the near future.
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>>98509401
Big youtuber and the reason LOTR special edition boxes went from like 6k to 12k.
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>>98509412
i don't watch youtube but thanks for the info
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>>98509391
when will they ban this card?
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>>98509419
Never because it isn't very good.
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>>98509419
probably in a year or two because it's very overpowered in current decks
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>>98509390
This is MLD
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>>98509435
you had hours to blow it up
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>>98509364
If by space you mean exile, yes, I have two.
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>>98509390
>monoblack
Don't you just sacrifice him, then activate Sundial in response?
Otherwise consider pic related.
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>>98509448
Playing against a rocco one day with my Pia Nalaar deck was one of the most fun games I've had in a long time.
I wish more people played him.
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>>98509401
Unfunny faggot who says a lot of no-no words in a monotone voice and wastes his Youtube/streambux on opening card packs and his massive dildo collection.
Not joking on that last part.
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>>98509390
I think this is the only option outside of removing counters.
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>>98509471
seeing pia only reminds me that wotc fully expects you to seriously believe that white chandra was borne out of a white man and a black woman
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>>98509481
Pia is indian-esque, and yes that does happen.
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>>98509391
Weebs are whales
Whales are weebs
The fact that the gacha market is the most profitable in the world is all you need to prove this
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>>98509471
I think I took her out at some point but I'm not sure why. Hm.
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I mean, it can happen.
If pia's family was at once white or mixed, than her genes with a white man could make a white baby.
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>>98509464
found sudden spoiling as well, seems like a more usable card than sundial anyways
>>98509479
this is probably the most fun thing to pair it with, so that the rest of the table can still beat each other to death with it to end the game faster
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>>98509490
enjoy your new house and all your student loans paid in 10 years
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>>98509485
>muh indianesque!
chandra also looks nothing like her parents wotc actually made sure of that with every artist that drew them you dingus
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>>98509494
a lot of things can happen, doesn't mean people will take it seriously
suspension of disbelief isn't infinite
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>>98509504
If you say so. I don't have a problem it knowing how genetics work.
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>>98509391
out of print UB is gonna do bonkers numbers if they manage to deliver on the anime and/or movie.
most normies still don't even know MtG exists
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>>98509506
whatever makes you sleep at night. netflix trailer in two weeks.
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>>98509507
i'm ready to quit the fuck out of MtG when that happens and happily retire
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>>98509508
Seems a weird thing to be so upset about.
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>>98509511
i don't get upset when someone tries to convince me to take something seriously, in fact i laugh and deride them
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>>98509481
The recton of Chandra, Literal Firecrotch being from Space India is very funny and not at all believable. Not as bad as Nissa no longer being an elf supremacist though.
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>>98509515
Deride them for have a better understanding of how the world works?
That's something dumb people do, you realize.
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>>98509519
wotc can't accept that green could do any moral wrong that's why they had to retcon nissa even though racial supremacy is bonafide green
that's why the green villains we'll ever get are dumb muscle like vorinclex
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Take me to the jaceverse. I need my beloved Mirrodin back.
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>>98509519
It's definitely a series of veey odd choices. They could have easily had someone like vivien from there instead.
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>>98509522
>hey an XXY transbian cripple blind retard could *in theory* be a ceo, so please take my fictional story about them saving the world seriously!
lol
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>>98509524
What is Freyalise then? Or Trostani?
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I'm such a funny guy, the prospect of buying Final Fantasy Boxes is making me look for a job, while nothing else in life does. Literally fixing my resume right now after not working since 2020. What a time to be alive.
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>being surprised Chandra NaSaar is a Magical Indian
lmao newfags
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>>98509530
Brother, I don't think too many people here are happy all that shit festers in our medium. All we were saying was that a white girl can in fact be born from brown parents.
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>>98509537
>freyalise
she's dead for her sins (can't have her in modern year now) and bad people stay dead until they get retconned to become good again for wotc to revive
>trostani
that wretched white mana corrupted them
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I recently got into MTG, super noobie, and want to make an earth bending deck but it just doesn't seem to work for me. It just seems way too slow to do anything and the people I play with. The other Toph cards don't really have too many lists on moxfield so I really don't know what the problem is.
Anyone got any advice for me?
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>98509549
>All we were saying was that a white girl can in fact be born from brown parents.
i never said it was impossible, all i said that they were foolish to expect us to take their story seriously despite suspension of disbelief being limited
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>>98509558
Oh, I see where you're coming from now, sure. I'm not sure special white snowflake born from mud blood was something they were trying to push like they do the other shit, though.
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>>98509554
If that's your commander, yes. Use a different one.
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>>98509529
Vivien was THIS close to being great. All they had to do was stick to the Steve Irwin theme. It seems like the instant any green nuwalker gets any sort spotlight on them they instantly become the blandest most flanderized Hollywood stereotype they possibly could.

>>98509524
It's pretty dumb we've never had a mono green big bad when we've had mono white and mono blue in Konda and Laquatus. I say this as a greenfag.

>>98509537
Pre-nuMagic characters
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Anyone played this guy? He feels like he'd be fun to make as a budget commander, just stacking things like plague crafter effects.
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>>98509552
>but the villain died
Yes, and?
How about Atarka? Or Morcant? Or Dwynen?
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>>98509589
People will rage against you constantly and hard focus you.
If you enjoy being the archenemy, he's great. Otherwise pick something else.
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>>98509586
>pre-nuMagic characters
Trostani only became evil in the latest Ravnica set, though.
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>>98509590
>atarka
red corrupted her, green can do no wrong in current year
>morcant
black corrupted her, green can do no wrong in current year
>dwynen
forgotten, we don't know what happened to her after the great aurora. why? because racism bad and mono green villains will only be animals moving forward like vorinclex
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>>98509595
It's okay to make pre-numagic characters bad because it promotes numagic characters to their roles (see glissa -> koth)
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>>98509554
You can look through this if it will help, I love playing Toph
https://archidekt.com/decks/20591157/the_melon_lord
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>>98509593
The people I play with aren't petulant children that throw a hissy fit at removal though
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>>98509522
NTA, but you're seriously trying to argue a genetic unlikelihood as intentional for a character in a game where the characters' head shapes aren't even consistent from a company that's all aboard the tranny train. Please explain what genetic combination allows an Indian woman and a brunette white man to have a redheaded white daughter.
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>>98509607
please understand these libtards think 'reality is stranger than fiction' isn't a real quote
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>>98509578
I was thinking of making her my commander or this one instead but I cannot really find any decklists on moxfield to riff on. My knowledge on the card pool is pretty shallow so the best I can do is go to edhrec and see what people put in their decks.
I also wanna be reasonable, we play on Tabletop sim but I also wanna aim for a somewhat fair deck so we play usually like bracket 3 decks
>>98509601
thank you, I think I played a deck that was called melon lord from moxfield and it was kinda busted with the one ring and those expensive double lands. But this one looks more reasonable
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>>98509604
>removal
Farewell that doesn't hit graveyards every few turns is something entirely different than a few removal spells anon, but sure, go be the archenemy.
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>>98509554
>fill your deck with mana rocks so you can animate them into really weak creatures one turn at a time
>makes your lands into creatures so your lands will all explode to 1 board wipe
yeah that card seems like total dogshit. the other toph linked at least makes the manlands less shit, but both seem like terrible cards.
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>>98509598
>>98509600
You're making it very narrow if you're saying only villians that are mo ogreen that aren't just big stomy dudes, and must be modern characters. So no, there really isn't anything in that incredibly narrow category.
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>>98509590
How is Atarka worse than any of the other Dragonlords (sans Ojutai)?
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>>98509613
Assuming youbhave a modern phone, get the Manabox app. It's a card search engine, a collection tracker, and a deck builder all in one. Look up "land"+"creature" as one search and you should find what you want.
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https://moxfield.com/decks/QOP2dYgfCE2CXPvMJ2XPJQ
how would (you) make a sefris deck?
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>>98509615
well the cool thing with earthbending is that when it would be sent to the graveyard or exiled it comes back tapped. Metalbender turns nontoken artifacts into lands so when you earthbend them they come back tapped. So an artifact that sacrifices itself for a strong effect comes back. Also when you play an artefact it triggers a landfall since it counts as land.
Is it really that terrible?
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>>98509633
yes toph is insane and can easily infinite combo, that sandtranny is an idiot
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>>98509625
She isn't, but she's green.
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>>98509623
lorwyn was in 2007 buddy, mtg making mono green villains animals for 19 years is god awful
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>>98509614
>implying I'm not just going to make the dog big and turn him sideways
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>>98509632
Dungeons are barely playable at 5c using initiative, much less at 3 color without.
>t. 5 color dungeons player
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>>98509639
no she's gruul, and that chaotic red mana corrupted what is meant to be perfect green that can do no wrong
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>>98509651
it's an initiative deck not dungeon
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>>98509632
I wouldn't.
I have a friend who runs this deck, and it's just the most boring shit ever.
>I go through the same dungeon every time.
>Oh, I got toxril, oh I got avacyn, oh it got the foul blooded in my graveyard, I'm just going through the same predictable lines as a cedh deck just 3 times as slow! Oh, you interacted with my predictable graveyard in anyway? I scoop.
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>>98509663
That is a dungeon, just the worst dungeon.
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>>98509644
Do villians not represent the worst of their colors? Does it not then make sense that greens would be violent mindless monsters then?
What have been the villains in each monocolor in let's say the last 10 years?
We have three other Praetors, obviously. And Valgavoth. Heliod and erebos, but they was originally made more than 10 years ago. Jace, I suppose. Lukka.
Point is, there really aren't all that many.
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>>98509674
>play 3 creatures from the top 30 cards of your deck every turn
>worst
nah
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>>98509675
Violent mindless monsters are not villains, per se, they are just behaving with in their nature.
Vorinclex however, had a mind and was just a dick, and was mono green
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>>98509637
how does earthbending interact with artifact creatures? Can you even earthbend them?
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>>98509684
All henchmen and mooks are just dicks following orders but mtg believes thay vorinclex being a dick is the pinnacle of green villainy in current year
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>>98509663
Still, not having red or green is a dick ache.
Best you could do is cut out all the dogshit and add in piles of blue and black cars draw.
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>>98509687
solemn simulacrum is an artifact land creature
at the end of your turn you earthbend it, giving it +2/+2 and a delayed trigger so when it dies you get it back
you sac it to goblin bombardment you get a card and a land and the robot back
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>>98509675
NRATA but Is Jace a villain nowadays? I've not kept up on lore since Gideon died an actual decade ago, thought Jace was supposed to be more the viewer insert in a sense
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>>98509709
He's been treated like one, certainly, yes.
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Do you guys play the prelreases?
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>>98509722
I'm old enough to remember old jace flavor text quotes being chilidishly snarky because hey the game is 13+
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>>98509702
the only dogshit in the deck is the rule of law stuff, but that effects my opponents more than me; the biggest problem is zero ramp
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>>98509709
>Undoing the Phyrexian invasion, not opening the Omenpaths, and saving millions of lives is... le bad, actually, because if that didn't happen somehow Liliana wouldn't feel le sorry and would be le proud!
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>>98509706
Yeah I figured that's the idea, I just wan't sure because earthbending reminder text says "you turn it into a 0/0 creature", so I wasn't sure how exactly that would work on something already considered a creature
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>>98509759
ah good catch, the robot will turn into a 0/0 with 2 +1/+1 counters
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>>98509735
I wasn't commenting on your dexk. I meant put in all the initiative and dungeon cards, then cut the dogshit ones and add a bunch of card draw.
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>>98509727
Yes.
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If I create a token of Auton soldier, does the token get to choose another creature to clone when it enters?
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>>98509796
yes
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https://archidekt.com/decks/20394329/dont_let_me_touch_you
Asking for some assistance on what to cut for my maybeboard.
Probably should cut the proliferate stuff.
The hatchery is actually, quite bad, but its funny so I won't cut that.
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>>98509768
and i'm gonna assume that for example those modular artifact creatures keep the counters so it doesn't really affect them right?
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Thinking of replacing a populate card in the Miku deck with this. What’s the Strat with it? Dump 20 or so life to make a big fucker or do you do around 10 life so it doesn’t attract removal straight away?
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>>98509812
zero downside on a 0/0
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>>98509826
Be a man and pay all but 1 life
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>>98509826
assume you will get 1 activation total and decide how much 8 mana and life is worth
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>>98509885
In a selesnya lifegain deck? I assume very little.
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>using draw instead of tutors

You guys seriously don't do this...do you?
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>>98509951
yes I refuse tutors
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>>98509951
I don't use overpriced, but actually pretty terrible cards like imperial seal. No.
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>>98508434
not in commander but I used to do mono white life gain legacy with these bad boys 16 years ago and do alright.

recently remade a vintage version on MTG Forge and its fun with Mox Pearl and Ocelot Pride + Ajani Pridemate + Soul Warden + Serra Ascendant

but for commander? It seems kind of wack. and even as a mono-white lifegain enjoyer I think there is long overdue errata for Serra Ascendant to say "if you life total is 10 more than your starting life total, S.A. is a 6/6 Flyer" not just 30 life out of the gate because right now its really bad taste to play in commander, and its a card I really enjoy playing
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>>98509951
>timmy spams tutors instead of running redundancy in the form of cards with similar effects or end goals in mind
I bet you seethe whenever you play against mill, don’t ya little Timothy?
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well today was Hobbit release day. did you guys pick up a collector booster for 44.99 from Targ-gey? Here's what I got
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>get stuck with two young high schoolers in a 4-man pod
>that's how it is sometimes oh well
>older kid is playing proxied-out bracket 3 Teval
>operates on every stereotype about proxying you would expect
>fetches out a fake bayou
>the younger kid on an upgraded precon is like, "Is that legal?"
>older kid points out all his expensive proxies like Icetill Explorer, Cyclonic Rift, etc, says he dislikes paying money for expensive cards
>stay out of it because I dislike proxies but I'm not about to denigrate a child for playing slop
>the younger kid clearly dislikes proxies and is clearly agitated because he doesn't find it fair
>then after a series of events the older kid goes for an altar of dementia infinite mill combo
>everyone goes to scoop up
>point out the younger child's commander is in play
>it's fucking disa
>the older kid is unaware and just goes for the combo anyway
>tell the younger kid he really shouldn't scoop
>they play it out
>he mills the kid entirely
>older kid: "what's pyrogoyf?"
>the younger child starts vibrating excitedly in his seat
>the older kid takes like 300+ damage to the face
>younger kid gets up running around telling his friends he finally won a game
>was bragging to his friends about how the guy winning was using all these expensive cards but he beat him anyway
The game itself was horrible, but at least the ending was funny.
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>>98510005
No. Found everything I wanted from the set at the LGS minus the thing I already ordered off TCG
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>>98510009
and what did you end up getting
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>>98510005
>collector boosters
I will never spend fucking 40+ dollars on a single booster. People who do are unironically bad with money.
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>>98510008
this didn't happen btw.
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>>98510008
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>>98510012
>>98509069
I misspoke. I didn't get everything. I didn't find a Bolg's Company there.
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>>98510025
very nice. what did they charge from the Speldy boy? I was ready to buy one of those but I could feel it in my balls that this collector would have the book version and it did. this is like when I was a little kid in 1999 and my mom got me a booster pack from a mall kiosk and it had charizard in it. good stuff though, singles is smart

>>98510013
44.99 was a good deal they were 58.99 at the LGS I went to for pre-release last Friday. and they charged the normal $40 for pre-release so it wasn't scumbag scalper central either

I know the price is gonna drop more but this is like a $120 pull. plus I got Dancing from Dusk to Dawn borderless, Radagast foil, some other 10 dollar card, full art foil forest that looks insane (but only full art land I dont have is an island. might have to put an order in for one).

but I wanted the full art version of this card and I got it for $45 instead of 80 for the non foil version. or maybe it will drop to $40, its obviously unlikely to occur but its what I hoped would happen and why I bought the pack. but yeah generally of course singles are the way to go
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>>98510037
37 dollars I think, something around there. I just remember it being slightly less that what TCG listed it as.
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>>98510008
proxyfags BTFO
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>>98510008
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>>98510016
>>98510075
>incredibly specific plausible scenario
>all fake btw
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>>98510008
Proxyfags being insufferable idiots who just go for "lolcombo" without thought and against another player waning them makes this believable
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>>98510092
The kid would probably not have processed that the pyrogoyf wins it for him if I weren't there to point it out. But it was funny seeing him win after doing nothing for the entire game.
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>>98510096
Probably not, but at least he learned a lesson about sticking it out through a combo instead of just scooping when its threatened.
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>>98510008
everyone clapped next?
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>>98510115
No, I argued with my friend for blowing a removal piece he shouldn't have that would've saved us both and he got really mad.
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>want to theme my creatures around miku
>sirens are all blue
There goes that idea.
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>>98510141
Swap to the 5 color Miku
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Every story about proxies are fake, because no one cares about proxies.
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>>98510145
This.
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>>98510143
Really nice art. Doesn't seem like a good commander.
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If you assholes play in an interaction heavy meta, you need to play this card. I just had a game go on for over 2.5 hours because people kept board wiping and building up giant armies where nobody could attack without someone else hitting them on the clapback. If any of the two decks that were green were running this the game would have ended an hour earlier.

It's just one fucking mana!
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>>98509799
I don't even know what the deck is trying to do, there's so little focus.
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>>98509985
Do both, both is good.
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>>98510174
It makes snakes, plays snakes, gets snakes and hits you to cut your health in half until you are naturally dead, or fully instantly dead due to wound reflection.
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>EDH night
>Sit down with a random pod
>B2
>Pull out my trusty Akim, the Soaring Wind deck.
>Turn one, scalding Tarn (proxy)
>Player across from me begins gnashing his teeth
>Crack fetch, find Plateau (proxy)
>Teeth gnasher tears his shirt open and begins screaming
>"This is B2 you motherfucker, bracket TWO, how fucking dare you pubstomp us like this. Fuck you
>He pulls out a gun and points it at himself
>"I'll fucking show you, you won't beat me fuck"
>Shot rings out.
>The local Rogsi player shot him in the back, he winks at me, then sits back down and finishes casting Tainted Pact.
>Rest of the pod plays as normal.
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>>98510151
It’s actually one of the best ones wdym? Just do whatever with a board wipe in the command zone.
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>>98510179
this happened btw.
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>>98510151
Run theses mana rocks and you're favorite indestructible creatures.
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>>98510190
th-thanks...
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>>98510194
not to bobble head of course. I was lazy.
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>>98510168
>play card
>try to go for win with it
>you don't
>next guy kills you
ACK!
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>>98509799
>>98509812
Glowcap does +1/+1 counters (and land draw/ graveyard stuff I guess) and I don't know why you'd want that.
Emeritus of woe relies on creatures dying on your turn which you can't reliably do.
Icetill explorer and ramunap excavator are basically useless because you don't have reliable ways to fill your graveyard.
Rottonmouth viper is fine, I guess, just expect it to die on first attack since you have almost no evasion.
Sakura tribe scout does almost nothing, especially if you aren't drawing cards, which you aren't.
Undercity exterminator is basically 7 mana exile one creature get a vanilla 3/3.
Winding constrictor has no place since you aren't doing +1/+1 counters.
You don't reliably enough have a 4/4 for garruk's uprising.
Too many cards that are kind of good, but not picked specifically to work with this deck.
Too little removal
Too few lands (aim for 38)
Not enough card draw
Too many snakes for how little tribal support is in the deck.
I would be surprised if this was playable in b2, honestly. Most precons would beat it to all hell.
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>>98510219
I'm not drawing cards with a commander that makes tokens with both idol of oblivion and skullclamp, phyrexian arena, and both planeswalkers (though granted they are high CMC) and Seshiro?

Garruk is more there to be a trampler enabler but perhaps yes I should look for something else.
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>>98510008
>seething at actual children
Holy fuck bro we get it, your dad and uncle viciously tag teamed your prepubescent asshole and you’ll never recover.
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So I just feel like this game isn't any more fun and it's bumming me out. On an edible or off, people are just no fuckin fun. I don't get why people get so pissy when they lose to me? Half of my decks are just silly shit without staples, I lose most games. When I lose turn 3 or 4, and I play a deck and win on turn 5 'at the same power level' they get so fucking salty. I have a time theme deck with 3 extra turn spells - no tutors - just gambling. I run cards like time stop and 5 different whirls, dig through time, ultimecia, etc.

>play a game
>goof around, get stomped die turn 5 previous game.
>next game, same pod
>be 11 life turn 7
>everyone is threatening lethal
>have paradox haze, gilded lotus, time beetle
>commander is pic rel
>cast time stretch for 10 mana -> next turn
>cast my commander for 7, hit nexus of fate, flicker him and get value
>take 3 extra turns total
>have void winnower, ugins binding, ugin, and a bunch of the pieces on suspend
>make it to next round, ugin's binding triggers on void winnower, bounce everyone's non-land permanents
>time spiral their board/hand/gy into their library
>they scoop and call my deck bullshit and that taking 3 extra turns was against the rules
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>>98510242
Not enough, no. 6 card draw cards is not close to enough, not to mention some of them are meh at best or overcosted for what they provide. Black is very good at drawing cards, and green is very good at drawing cards if you have a wide or tall boardstate.
I would never tell you to take out flavor for generic crap, but maybe there are some other cards that are also flavorful you could put in that synergize. Maybe you could even take out some of the generic crap you do have in there for them.
Like for instance you could have a bunch of cheap Bite spells as your creature removal insteal of you fight spells or other generic removal.
As ever, I qould recommend Manabox for building decks becauae it's a comprehensive card seach engine as well as a deck builder.
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>>98510294
If this is a random pod and not a friend pod, I would, as always, recommend building for bracket 2. It is by far the most fun.
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>>98510294
>shuffles all of his opponents non-land permanents, hands and graveyards into their library
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>>98510294
this never happened.
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>>98510308
yeah, I was playing my give away free creature squall deck, and I obviously didn't get shit done and lost not doing anything. This happens consistent enough with random pods that I just feel like shit, they just sandbag any fun and bitch/moan. I don't take 15+ minute turns, it was relatively quick 4 turns since I was just building a board. But if anyone from the pod before won - 'ggs' despite tutoring out a torment of hellfire with witherbloom turn 5 for X=1 million

but if I flicker ultimecia with deadeye navigator and stop them from swinging lethal at me, IM the asshole.
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>>98510308
>It is by far the most fun.
It's not.
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won my first commander game tonight... wahoo!
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>>98510324
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>>98510242
>>98510248
>>98509799
This is far from optimal as I made it in one evening for a buddy cause he thought the commander looked cool, so definitely don't copy+paste the deck list, but if should have cards to consider and a better overall composition.
https://manabox.app/decks/AZvWwN9LeY-vlU-pAEM-xw
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>>98510330
Note that I do have counters in the deck, but I also have enough support for them.
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>>98510328
that's a good idea anon, I can use it to search my panharmonicon, thank you
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how do I find people to play with IRL?
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>>98510339
Go to a fucking card shop?
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>>98510341
and risk hearing people not agree with my rule zero? inconceivable
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Speaking of playing with people. Would anyone be down for a weekly Cockatrice EDH night? It'll probably be a clusterfuck though.
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>>98510341
the closest card shop is like, 2 hour drive away
Covid killed all the small cardgame stores I went to in the past
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>>98510360
sucks to be rural.
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>>98510190
>just have 1000$ in mana rocks nothin perssonel kiddo
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>>98510375
It's like 200 bucks, but yeah, ridiculous.
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>>98510375
>buying expensive magic cards
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>>98510168
how about playing this ol' gem
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>>98510375
If only this thread wasn't anti-proxy
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What are some decent instant-speed board clears playable in Mardu? I went after a Scute Swarm guy who managed to put 8000 bugs on the board with haste and all my shit to respond was sorcery onry
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>>98510475
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>>98510475
In that exact scenario.
Settle the wreckage
Comeuppance
Pic related
Final Showdown
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>>98510302
I can smell this card (good smell, like the cards from the FF precons. Belgian printing??)

is there any fight spell that also grants your creature deothtouch until EOT? I didnt fully realize what that did because I never really used fight spells (they seem kind of like a recent thing). but death touch fight spells is great for mono green (ie, da squirrel )
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>>98510475
>Board clear
Just kill him instead.
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>>98510487
>Zoltan Boros
>makes Rakdos charm
Also what kind of name is Zoltan? Is this guy a fortune machine at a carnival?
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>>98510468
>hey cool card I haven't seen before
>look it up
>1 printing
>on the reserve list
How the hell do anti-proxy fags exist?
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>>98510493
I firmly believe 99% of anti-proxy posting here is just shitposting and trolling.
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>>98510493
Because despite it being a neat card, we accept the fact its not necessary.
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>>98510501
desu no card is necessary
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>>98510498
>No one could possibly not like us or think differently than us. That's literally impossible!
Your narcissism is showing.
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>>98510504
>being on 4chan and not being a narcissist
Do you not have a phone?
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>>98510481
You want bite, not fight. Bite deals damage in one direction, fight deals damage in both.
The snakes deck is better off just having more snakes with deathtouch or giving all your snakes deathtouch.
Or you can just use you tokens since they have deathtouch.
Putting deathtouch on a bite spell would just be a kill spell, so no.
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>>98510487
I lost to this on turn 5 aftwr better big enough to take out players. I laughed so hard. It was great.
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>>98510498
For these generals specifically it's 100% a single autists who throws a hissy fit about proxies every now and then.
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>>98510515
Given how last thread went, its the people who proxy who throw the hissies.
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>>98510517
Oh look he's already in here
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>>98510515
I don't believe they are genuine because they post in a clear shitposty manner where they refuse to have an honest argument
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>>98510513
Fighting is good though
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>>98510522
I'm just someone who read the thread anon, but calling me out as a boogey man is just proving my point.
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>>98510470
we're anti shamelessness actually
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>>98510524
>honest argument
but enough about proxytards wanting strong cards to win in what they would simultaneously tell you is a casual format not to be sweated on
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>>98510532
You don't understand. I NEED a 5k deck for bracket 2. There's just no other way to keep up with modern precons.
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>>98510534
I have a 1200 dollar bracket 2 deck.
It's hot ass.
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>>98510532
Care to point out where it mentions price for any of the brackets?
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>>98510542
>price doesn't matter
>only skill!
so edh is a competitive format then regardless of bracket? yes or no? faggot
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>>98510542
In my feels.
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>>98510545
>>price doesn't matter
Yes according to the guy who is the lord of the format.
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>>98509632
This is what I've got. Sefris is fun but it's the kind of deck I try not to bring out more than once a game night because it will take a while and even once you get your engine going you're going to be having to juggle a lot of triggers to manage.
https://moxfield.com/decks/7ViBN9E6xEGvgEH6DUbfcA
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>>98510539
I believe it. Some cards are stupid expensive without being all that good, or are shiny bling and not worth it. This guy is is 150 dollars and he's pretty shit in modern commander, but a funny bracket 2 flex.
Which, is a fine way to proxy I guess, but you know the kinds of people I'm talking about.
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>>98510526
It's fine I guess, but your creature will die from it. There are a good dozen bite spells that cost the same amount of mana as fight spells, so why bother with fight spells?
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>>98510553
Helps when your commander costs 100+
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>>98510554
If you get some benefit from your creature dying.
You'll 1 for 5 if this is your commander.
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>>98510534
A lot of my bracket 2 decks are around $300 - $600, I like to buy expensive prints of shit cards from resellers like an ignorant gullible goy so I can bling out my shit decks.
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I just started recently. I like frog decks.
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>>98510565
That's fine, and you aren't proxying. So I don't really know why you are throwing your hat in here.
You can have an expensive 2 in real cards, and you can have an overly expensive 2 with fake cards. One happens drastically more than others.
You and the other anon are respectable, even if I don't see eye to eye with what you do with your money.
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>>98510579
If you play glarb or flubs outside of bracket 4 you're an asshole.
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Funny how the anti proxy dork says proxy gods have melties, yet he always has a overly emotional meltdown when proxy demiurges troll him.
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>>98510589
stop running away from the question faggot
>>98510545
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>>98510589
Things that didn't happen.
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He always assumes everyone who mocks him is the same guy too. Sad.
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That makes 2 misprints in the same display, blue troll negotiations and colorless dwarven mauler
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reassembling skeleton + skullclamp
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>>98510600
Billion dollar company btw. Pls understand.
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>>98510585
I like Clement the Worrywart! I tried Glarb but I was a little too retarded for it and wanted as close to pure frog as possible.
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>>98510542
It drives the Timmy’s crazy when you take the bracket system at face value and dismiss their arbitrary bracket head-canon as simply “vibes and intent”.
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>>98510595
I don't recognize this Nikke.
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Mono red treasures surely has to be one of the best "bang-for-your-buck" decks to build right?

There's like a handful of viable commanders for that theme and you don't need to change any cards in the deck , you can basically swap out the commander at will and get tons of replay value
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>>98510515
Smart money says he's a scalper.
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>>98510654
Wut? Most cards being proxied are reserve list shit. Why would a scalper give a fuck about that?
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>>98510657
>Most cards being proxied are reserve list shit.
Not at all.
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>>98510654
What the hell in magic is even getting scalped? Every store I go to the card section is filled with magic and yugioh but zero pokemon or one piece.
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>>98510657
I proxy every game changer and every fetch land and every edh staple that's more than 5 dollars
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>>98510654
Nah he’s probably some DSP tier dent that’s got buyers remorse for his card collection and so he gets real mad if people don’t buy into it too.
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>>98510679
same but cards under 5 dollars I'm not a tryhard
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>the last five decks i brewed were all Grixis

help me break out of here, anons
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>>98509391
oh god it's another ritual poster
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>>98510560
Sure, but it isn't.
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>>98510565
holy sexo
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just placed an order for a hundred or so proxy duals to spread around my playgroup for free. little do they know it'll make my bracket 2 nonbasic land denial so much better
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>pulled a dancing from dawn to dusk and through the forest gate from the hobbit
>look at assembling titania, protector of argoth
>only actual deckbuilding decision feels like if you want to be bracket 3 with field of the dead / glacial chasm or without
Who else should I use these for?
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>>98509390
Hex parasite, eventide's shadow, fain the broker, moxite refinery, aether snap, heartless act, mutated cultist, perfect intimidation, price of betrayal, render inert, and thief of blood.
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>>98510859
Consider dying vro
>>98510600
That greyscale red card would be worth quite a lot to the right retard. You should get it graded and then hold onto it to sell later.
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>>98510789
https://archidekt.com/decks/24944657/me_and_my_fine_shyt
Build jeskai bro, take the jeskai pill.
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I have had enough of permanents that aren't artifacts. Get that shit outta here.
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>>98511015
banned below b4 btw
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>>98511015
this is a cedh card get that shit outta here
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>>98511016
>>98511022
Don't worry, I only cast it when I can swing for the win after, making it functionally no different than a Winds of Abandon which should be fine by Gavin's standards. Otherwise Winds of Abandon would be banned.
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>>98511056
what
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>>98511060
It's airtight logic, what do you not understand? I use it as an asymmetrical boardwipe to get rid of all blockers so I can kill everyone, which is the same thing Winds of Abandon does.
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>>98510360
Start your own card shop
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>>98511078
With blackjack
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>>98510515
I'm anti proxy because proxyfags can't help themselves. The only kind of proxyfags I will play with are the ones who proxy cards with huge boobs because they aren't doing it for power, they do it for aesthetics. I also don't support giving money to JotC either.
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>>98511149
No one is going to ask you either way.
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>>98511149
I care. Also did ask.
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>>98510005
I got a surge foil of Palantir of Orthanc.
Gonna sell it for 120+ since foils are for suckers anyway.
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>>98511056
this matters not. billions of lands got destroyed
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What are your guys favorite commanders for each color?
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>>98511149
holy shit a literal walking talking goomba
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>>98511290
Mono colored decks should be illegal. Three color is slop is the soul of this format.
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>>98511290
>W
darien
>U
urza
>B
braids
>R
magda
>G
gargos
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>>98511290
I don't have any other mono-coloured commanders, at least not yet.
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>>98511312
>Darrien
Based.
>Gargos
Never seen this one before, sick art and I really like that the protection ability is pretty unique
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>>98511315
Future Sight frame kino
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>>98510604
it's obviously intentional
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I use my removal, specially enchantment/artifact ones, on expensive staples regardless of game states. Something about blowing up a Great Henge or Exploration makes me happy anons, plus the salt that comes after just makes it well worth it
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>>98511341
So if you were presented with a mox opal and a portal to phyrexia in play and a disenchant in your hand, would you take out the mox because it costs more money? Or do you see them as equally valid targets because they both crossed the 30 eurodollar threshold and thus destroy the higher impact one for gameplay reasons?
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>>98511348
Portal, dont touch my cards (But fr I would then see what is the strongest board in that case or just try and blow both of them, I love removal bro...)
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>>98511348
You're responding to a literal retard.
What's even the point of trying to grill someone who comes out and admits right away that they're a goofy ass who plays Magic to try to get salt from other people.
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>>98511015
god i fucking love kev walker cards
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>>98511363
Found who Im using my next disenchant on :3c
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>>98511290
>W
Worzel
>U
Uyu
>B
Bontu
>R
Rakka Mar
>G
Grunn
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>>98511290
I have a type
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>>98511447
Refined taste in your selection here anon. Your Grixis gals are so cool.
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>>98510515
>insane anon who thinks the general is one guy he hates and him
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>>98510493
I dunno but I had to order directly from Chang to get this, even the American proxy "curators" don't usually carry this because it's pretty obscure. but green doesn't really have any other type of effect and like you noticed, no reprint
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>>98510501
its not necessary but mono green doesn't have a great way to destroy creatures and this is a novel effect for it and even the proxy itself is hard to get
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>>98510600
no they're just doing a throw back to the OG Mirrodin block (note the mana pips in the text box). all the cards in the original Mirrodin block were like this
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>>98511643
>>98511647
>green doesn't have tons of fight spells

Heaven forbid the strongest color in commander has to splash to get a slightly better effect of something it can already do. What's next, should green also get counters so people don't have to bother playing Simic too?
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>>98511634
>noticeable anon/shit poster gets banned/disappears
>thread quality improves immediately for days

Don't pretend like 90% of the garbage in /edh/ isn't being dumped by 1-2 anons.
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>>98511715
We still have the exact same schizos making the exact same posts, nothing's changed except the image spam.
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>>98511730
Gay Bolas schizo seems to be dead. usually we get post about the lack or the inclusion of faggot bolas but the last few threads have lacked it.
>>98510644
It Flora
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>>98511761
I didn't even notice because I don't engage in retarded "thread culture" discussions.
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>>98511761
I miss him. Bring Gay Bolas chad back.
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>>98511412
good luck, my artifacts and enchantments are all bulk rares
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>>98511761
GB bakers are a couple of different anons who do it just to trigger the poltard schizo and they don't actually care about every thread having GB in it unless poltard is having a giga melty. I know because I'm one of them
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R8

https://archidekt.com/decks/25375090/chrono_shenanigans

Blogposted last night, cut ugin and time stretch. This was originally monoblue taigam deck
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>>98511859
Seems fine. I'm not a huge fan of multiple time warps, especially in bracket 3 where things can end up dishonest, but I like his effect.
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>>98509826
Its a fun card, add it
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>>98509826
that comes in the deck, is this a joke?
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>>98511954
Reading comprehension you twit.
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>>98509419
never. it's trash like every other equipment that does not give protection
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>>98509826
If you have your lifegain engines online you absolutely should pay 20 life since you get another 20/20 every turn which is very difficult for most tables to deal with

Otherwise I think 8 or 10 life is a solid investment without risking too much
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>>98510493
I'm new to MTG but the whole concept of the reserve list blows my mind, having come from other TCGs. So we have formats where you can play basically any card... and players don't want cards to be accessible? I imagine there's years of playerbase culture I just don't have the context for, from the outside looking in it just seems retarded and idk why you wouldn't proxy any old card above $20
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>>98512129
People will shill all kinds of bullshit but here is the truth: WOTC staff and Hasbro sharholders have a large number of reserve list shit and do not want their "investment" to tank. When all those fucks hit 80, there will be a massive firesale of RL shit.
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>>98512129
>and players don't want cards to be accessible?
You're clearly new to MtG because you don't know the whole story. No, it's not "players" driving this. This has been discussed for longer than you've been alive. Look up a video essay or something.
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>>98512129
Magic was never a game for the players.
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>>98512129
No player in the current day of magic ever needs anything off the RL unless they are playing CEDH, Legacy or Vintage.
If your not playing at those high competitive levels, your bracket 3 elf ball deck can absolutely function just fine without gaeas cradle.
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>>98512129
it is retarded but people have mostly accepted it and either find cheaper alternatives for expensive cards or just proxy
t. own around 30 reserved cards and wouldn't mind RL being abolished at all
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>>98511917
>>98511859
>>98510294
I think the deck is fine. as a Kang enjoyer, bouncing their boards to the hand, then time spiraling is based beyond belief.
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>>98510042
very cool congrats on acquiring it, its a good card. and "fair" for bracket 3 or even 2 so thats nice. and just some draw for white even.
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>>98512169
>No player in the current day of magic ever needs anything off the RL
This is just false.
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>>98509412
He's not the reason that happened, don't be retarded.
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>>98512129
>>98512159

and especially:

>>98512143

the original Garfield gang, and some other people who came in during the mid 90s like mark rosewater– all the 90s peeps have substantial holdings of alpha & beta and other reserved list shit.

in lieu of getting paid actual big money/pensions (Garfield made millions when Hasbro bought Wizards, long before they became GōtC) they got shit like uncut Alpha sheets and this is their retirement. Now Garfield is in his 60s and the other dudes are getting near retirement age.

once those fuckers cashed out their fake stocks Hasbro will turn the money printer light on GREEN. either at Magic's 40th in 2043 or even earlier. they will start with reprints of true duals

but yeah its a very anti-player, anti-game thing and they've been changing their own rules the entire time. all cards before X set, only Rares and uncommon from X time period, only certain uncommons, FOIL versions are OK, foil versions. are not OK. rares that were reprinted earlier are OK, Judge cards are OK its complete bullshit and there is no legitimate lawsuit that could stop it either.
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>>98509522
Dude this is a Magic thread. These people can't even fully understand how their children's trading cards actually work half the time and you expect them to know genetics is more complex than a 2x2 punnett square?
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>>98509607
People aren't 100% any one race you retard.
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>>98512352
Insane autistic conspiracy theory
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>>98512129
Magic is literally for rich people. That's literally it. You can cope and mope about muh fairness and muh integrity all you want, it's never going to change that fact.
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>>98512398
Competitive magic is.
There's still plenty of fun to be found with a precon and modding it slowly over time with pulls or finds at an lgs
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>>98512398
hahaha printer go brrrrrrr
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>>98510637
It is literally based on vibes though. You can't judge a deck's power based on a singular card within it.
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>>98512398
>rich is when you buy a $100 deck for a hobby
I think poorfags just don't know what rich is
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>>98512431
Even having a single deck worth 1-2k isn't even "rich."
Rich is having a RL collection set, and several RL play sets and dozens of blinged out 5k+ decks.
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>>98512431
There's varying levels of richness in this world. That's not even a comment on Magic. This is a conversation about Vintage, don't be retarded.
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>>98512405
I mean real Magic. Real, factual, intended way to play Magic, is also literally draft. It's why commons and uncommons and all that shit exist. The intended way to play is to blow your money like a gambling addict purchasing a roll of scratch offs. People forget that stuff like Modern and Legacy is literally for "poor people" that don't want to be forced to pay every time they want to play.
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>>98512446
>It's why commons and uncommons and all that shit exist
They existed so you when you ante'd you could hit trash.
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I WILL keep buying from chang as the costs are actually fair and the quality is actually better than Wotcs sloppy printings
I WILL keep making decks for every bracket that have perfect landbases and are as powerful as the definitions allow
I WILL keep beating you with these decks every game
and (You) WILL keep crying about it.
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>>98512169
You are genuinely retarded and a nigger
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>>98512514
>Has no actual response other than guttural anger.
>Calling anyone else a "nigger"
Ironic.
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>>98512169
The schizo has yet again evolved, first it was
>You don't need true duals in B2
Now we are here.
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>>98512524
>Everyone in the general is me, or some schizo
>Calling anyone else a schizo
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>>98512364
you are a deranged retard
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You don't need anything more than the current Commander product and Standard Collector Boosters for commander. Anything more and you are a tryhard sweatlord.
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>>98512500
true dat. ultra based. the foils don't curl like gōtc shit and look just as good, if not better. and they cost $3.

some cards are not great, I got a bad double sided card. but foil contemporary stuff looks great and a lot of RL stuff looks great
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noob here
how do I know what a good starting hand is? I know it depends on the deck but man sometimes I feel like I open a good hand but just can't really do anything with the upcoming draws
as rule we can mulligan as much as we want just dont open with sol ring
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>>98512542
I guess I'm a tryhard sweatlord for buying <5 dollar cards on the secondary market eh
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>>98512461
Okay but what if I just run all good cards so I don't lose when I ante?
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>>98512576
Generally speaking, at least 3 lands, a piece of removal, a piece of ramp, and a piece that actually progresses your gameplay whatever that is, and whatever else.
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>>98512576
Does you hand have a monetary value of at least 600usd? Then it is keepable, otherwise mull.
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>>98512597
What if my mom had a dick? She'd be my dad.
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>>98512576
3 lands. a creature that costs 1 or 2 or maybe 3 to play. if you have spells that cost a total of 6 or 7 to play that doesn't help you right then.

if you have a Sol Ring and 2 lands thats a keeper hand. 1 land & sol ring & arcane signet you might even want to keep. but yeah like the other dude said, a spell, like a counter or removal or "draw a card" type thing. and a creature is good.
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>>98512576
3+ lands and a source of card draw/selection that's playable from said 3 lands. If your commander draws cards, then any playable card off those 3+ lands works.
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>>98512629
yeah this
you can keep two islands and a merfolk looter
(especially if your deck cares about graveyard lol)
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When are we going to get some new posters in this general? I'm sick of it just being me and you and that one guy who disagrees with me.
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>>98512576
lands and spells you can cast with those lands
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>>98512611
Okay, guess I'm keeping this one land hand.
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>don't like proxying my own shit because I have fun in trading around for cards that go well in my decks
>MB3 announced to only be available to good goys who spend an exorbitant amount of time/money to go to their official conventions
Guess I'm proxying now.
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>>98512971
Where was this announced?
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>>98513004
Gavin mentioned on his YouTube channel that MB3 is only going to be available at conventions and those Convention in a Box (read: scalpers)
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>check my secret lair dispatch thing
>miku deck says "In preparation"
>"aww man"
>get a knock at the door
>it's my miku deck
Thanks miku
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>>98513031
>I wouldn't expect it to be in game stores
>Goes on to give a very long, but not exhaustive list of all the events that it will be at, and all of the festivals in a box SL they will be in.
While yes, it is a bummer its convention only, it sounds like the market is still going to be flooded with cards from them. I still don't believe singles most of them are going to be all 100+ dollars, but it might end up being most of them are 15+ dollars, even the bad ones, which also sucks, but that's still managable for most.
https://youtube.com/shorts/PhcHqz5G9wA?si=oZVUkJTPzJaItbqg
For anyone who wants to see gavin saying it for himself. As he also says, take it with a grain of salt. He's a designer, he doesn't deal with sales or marketing so he doesn't know all the facts himself.
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>>98513067
pics? I thought that was meant to be fulfilled months from now
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>>98512129
The RL exists because wotc fucked up a long time ago and for a time it wasn't a huge deal. In 2016 you could have grabbed Mox Diamond for around 100 bucks to build your NuKozielk deck after Oath of the Gatewatch dropped. Now it's just gone full retard and people have realized even moderately usable RL cards like Tombstone Stairwell are gonna hit triple digits so shit is just rocketing up across the board.
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>>98513122
The initial batch was already ready to ship.
If you didn't get that initial batch you have to wait till June 2027
Tigereye Cameo was also included as a bonuc card which is nice.
I have played it 3 times today already and it's not great.
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>>98513163
My reserve list dream:
>WotC crashes and burns (how/why is up to you)
>another company buys up MtG
>they say that since they never agreed to the reserve list, they'll start reprinting some of the cards on it over time to see what happens
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>I need it, but I can't afford it! Reee
RL is just extreme fomo.
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>>98512500
I WILL keep making paper printer proxies of cards I don't already have a copy free of even if they cost pennies, and very often do.
I WILL keep making decks for bracket 2 that have power appropriate land bases and with a reasonable budget even though I'm not buying the cards.
I WILL keep making custom art and and borders for UB commanders replacing them with in-universe established characters.
I WILL continue to be a positive force for good at all my tables as I enjoy playing my decks and making sure people enjoy playing against my decks because it's a casual format and we are all here to have fun.
But I WILL continue to try to win and regularly win at a good rate (~35%).
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>>98512542
I'm not sure what you're even asking if people here, but if you're telling me I need to buy sealed product you can fuck right off.
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>>98512576
Just keep a hand that advances your decks gameplan that you can mostly play with the lands in your hand (plus maybe a few generic mana) and have at least 3 lands, or two and card draw. If your gameplan requires ramp (like if you want to get your commander our asap and it costs 4+ mana) make sure you have ramp in there too.
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>>98513220
Same, but with shitty art.
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>>98513241
This isn't shitty art because it's ai slop and ai slop isn't art at all.
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>>98513241
Replace the saxophone with a Vuvuzela
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>>98511447
can you hook me up with a Drana deck she makes my dick hard
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>>98513169
I've been playing against bots with this deck, it certainly has some high impact plays for bracket 2
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>>98513394
It might just have been bad luck but in all 3 games I was struggling to make any token creatures at all
The number of lands that just tap for colourless mana left me with no way to cast my commander in one of them.
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What's the best way to cheat out an Enter the Infinite
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I AM LITERALLY BASEDFACING OVER THE NEW MYUSTERY BOOSTER
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>>98511290
I started playing MtG during the Kamigawa block so they will always have a place in my heart.
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this is kinda hot actually
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>>98513564
ravnica has the hottest chick - with (You) stalking her in the background too! - that had the art replaced exactly because wotc thought she was too sexy
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>I proxy because my creativity shouldn't be limited by my wallet
>Look at their deck
>Just a CEDH or near CEDH stapleslop pile instead of some old RL commander with weird synergies.
Every time.
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>>98513576
>proxytard insists edh is a social format
>ok then why would us richer people tolerate being with poor people like you, much less mingle with you? you see rich people buddying around with poor people in real life? why would it be any different at the table?
>aaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>98513241
I STILL BELIEVE! (in gooning)
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>>98513241
What are the notes in the flavor text? Is that even flavor text?
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>>98513169
That's the bonus card? That one guy lied to us all. All of us.
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>>98513612
I'm pretty sure it's the melody from sexy sax guy
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>>98513644
What did the guy say?
I think I missed the talk about it
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>>98512344
He really is.
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>>98513583
>shitmon silver
kys
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>>98513612
>>98513648
Yes, its the sheet music for the Epic Sax Guy tabs.
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>>98513654
He said we'd all be millionaires: >>98485952
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>>98513663
ok poorfag
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>>98513679
Didn't this guy advocate killing children?
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>>98513576
noob here
how do people even build decks with weird cards cause this cardgame is insanely old and there are so many cards around how would I even know what to put in besides good cards that people keep using?
unrelated to proxying but the cardpool is insanely huge, at least you kind of limit yourself by the choice of commander colors
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>>98512344
Youtubers affect the prices of stuff all the time. Some youtube shorts retard insisted a random precon card from EOE (Insight Engine) was a good budget replacement for The One Ring awhile ago (It isn't) which instigated a buyout that spiked the price for a month or two before people realized the card actually sucks.
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>>98513692
They dig in the mines of scryfall to find the interactions they want.
Every card in existence is on Oracle, and therefor scryfall. Once you know all the tricks to easily search scrfall for thing like weird counter types, as an examople, you can spiral your esoteric build from there.
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>>98512416
You’re right, the bracket system outlines specific and objective conditions that dictate which bracket it belongs to. A good landbase, a few pricey cards usually used as combo pieces and consistent synergy throughout the deck doesn’t immediately put a deck up a bracket, that retarded shit is headcanon vibes bs.
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>>98513719
>A good landbase, a few pricey cards usually used as combo pieces and consistent synergy throughout the deck doesn’t immediately put a deck up a bracket,
It literally does. All of those things are optimized deckbuilding, and there is a bracket for that. Its called bracket 4. The "optimized" bracket.
You know this. You understand this, but you know you aren't a good enough player to play at bracket 4, so you need to angleshoot in bracket 2.
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>>98513695
okay explain the borderless foil buster sword
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>>98513730
>Unrelated ritual poster response
nyo i don't think I will
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>>98513576
https://manabox.app/decks/AZ_sTuZ-fqqiqI5ObeAnLA
:)
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>>98513735
little freak
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>>98513576
https://manabox.app/decks/AZ-bnfjgdde_40JSCl-9_Q
:))
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>>98513738
https://moxfield.com/decks/vNCxqzx7L0ODOGgDb32bDw
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>>98513730
rekt that soiboi
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I'm not replacing the Miku cards. How does this look if I take all his other card suggestions?
https://draftsim.com/mtg-hatsune-miku-commander-deck-upgrade-guide/
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>>98513738
>>98513741
Nice. Accepted. but you know you are an outlier.
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>>98513701
the way I see it at least is that with a 100 card deck the likelyhood of drawing some specific interactions seem very slim, so is the play to have a lot of small interactions in your decks and hope that you have them sometimes available?
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>>98513719
>a good manabase
>but i need proxied underground seas guys!
You are a poorfag that wants the best cards but still clings to edh being le casual game because deep in your poor heart you know i will still stomp you harder on b2 with real cards no less
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>>98513777
Why can't I proxy temple garden?
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>>98513763
You can do common things in interesting ways.
Setting up a 5 card esoteric rube golberg machine to drain the table takes creativity, and intelligent ways to achieve it.

Or, you could just Vamp tutor for necropotence or ad nause to dig for the infinite drain loop. Or a hundred other known lines for a instant win
Sure. It does work better, but its a known quantity, and its not creative.
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>>98513783
Why can't you just buy one?
That asked, I don't really care if you proxy cards that its totally reasonable that you could own.
It is not reasonable that some 5c pile at a bracket 2 or 3 would own all the true duals.
Someone COULD absolutely own them all and run them all, but they are still a cringe sweat, proxy or otherwise.
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>>98513792
True duals really aren't better than bond lands if you don't have fetches.
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>>98513783
You can, because as a reasonable random adult i will still assume you will buy it eventually (even if you wont)
But proxying og duals breaks that assumption, you're fooling no one with your crassness
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>>98513798
But why do you care?
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>>98513797
Then why would one feel the need to poxy them instead of just the bondlands that are more believable?
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>>98513804
Because this is a social game, and we need to engage with your faggotry.
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>>98513804
>dude edh is a social format
>dude why do you care about social norms?!
Poor people simply are incapable
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>>98513755
Yeah, unfortunately cannot doubt that. After I started peoxying my whole dexks (outside of the cards I already own), one of the guys I played with immediately started talking about proxying shit like rhystic study and cyc rift.
He didn't, thankfully. All the rest if them buy their cards and limit themselves based on how much they are willing to spend.
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>>98513777
Reminder no one outside this thread cares.
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>>98513806
Because they do have fetches lmao
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>>98513820
Whatever you say you poor nigger
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>>98513820
No one cares, that's why you need chang bootlegs instead of obvious proxies.
Because no one cares.
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>>98513829
>anti-proxy troll guy has a monitor this filthy
Jesus christ
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>>98513831
>proxyfag is the troon that likes digital circus
No amount of axe wounds is gonna serve as a proxy for the real thing btw
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>>98513834
I knew that would get you upset.
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>>98513837
>i gave myself an axe wound to own the chuds ha!
Lmao
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>>98513831
>Anyone who disagrees with me, is actually a troll. No one would actually think differently than me!
You are in need of a lobotomy so people won't think like you ever again.
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>>98513831
I blast my monitor with me SEED, what of it?
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>>98513728
It literally does not and if you tried this shit at my store I would report you to the owner.
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What's a interesting equipment matter commander that isn't just
>unlbockable commander
>equipments are cheaper
>when equip, do good thing
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I feel like we need to split these threads into pro and anti proxy generals like we did with UB and anti-UB.
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>>98513845
Only a poorfag insists the issue is about legality when the whole point is that he's poor
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>>98513844
Bullshit, that damages the monitor (i ruined one of my laptops doing that)
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>>98513860
What the fuck are you even talking about you sperg?
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>>98513854
>mtg tards are so retarded they need 38 threads to not argue with themselves
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>>98513867
If only we had jannys that deleted troll posts.
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>>98513865
>you sperg!
>but please dont call me poor please...
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>>98513864
It was a joke, but I have actually done a tribute for an ex at some point and my monitor was fine after. Just gotta make sure it doesn't go around the edges.
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>>98513874
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>>98513881
it went around the edges and below too, the whole monitor immediately shifted like when you have a damaged graphics card, i still have the laptop, the monitor just doesn't work , I was camming with some ex girlfriend
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>>98513728
Based angleshooter
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>>98513850
>an equipment matters commander that isn't [everything that would synergize with equipment]
I don't know what you're looking for here, anon. Maybe something when you cast artifacts or equipment, or when they enter? Maybe something like picrel that protects them?
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>>98513749
>no one
oh
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>>98513854
This isn't the UB general, though, it's the general general, so one of the two groups would have to go into a containment thread and I really don't know how you would decide that.
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>>98513850
Maybe you'll like that new Ekthi guy that's coming out soon, but otherwise most equipment commanders do indeed reward you for putting equipments on your guy and beating someone to death. Not sure what else you expect them to do.
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>>98513850
This upcoming living weapon one might be up your alley. You may also want to look at partner combinations with Toggo, goblin weaponsmith.
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>>98513893
See
>>98513895
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>>98513909
kek
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>>98513908
this looks fun but also too slow.
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>>98513901
It's not you, it's the deck because retarded UB shit.
Normally I would be very happy to help, but when I see stuff like that I just move along.
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>>98513915
Back to the containment thread
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>>98513749
Trudge Garden as a poor man's luminarch ascension, and Thousand Moon Smithy because it's Just Good, and uhhh I guess City of Death for versatile ramp/populate
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>>98513901
Why would I read some silly article for a deck I'm not playing.
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>>98513915
In that case, can you offer cheaper card suggestions for a Token lifegain deck?
>>98513923
>Thousand Moon Smithy
Thanks! That one especially seems fun. Dwarves are cool.
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>>98513919
It's honesty more like a "safe space" than a containment thread, but I guess that's from my perspective.
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>>98513929
Cheaper than what lmao
Run all the soul sister effects and replacmeent effects that give +1 or double life each time?
I really don't have a reference point.
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>>98513935
>Cheaper than what lmao
ESL? I'll keep moving.
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>>98513938
ok EOL
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>>98513938
nta but do you have no reading comprehension?
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>>98513850
Paying for all your equip costs while strapping them to a weak creature with no upside and no payoff for doing so might as well not be using equipment. There's just not much else to do with it.
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>>98513908
Just bought this printing, its been slowly climbing, sure she'll make it jump up even more once she actually starts getting sold.
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>>98513962
I was told this was a bracket 4 card because I killed someone with it on turn 4
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>>98513962
gaogaigar goldion hammer skin SOON
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>>98513972
they are correct
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>>98513977
Killing one person turn 4 isn't winning the game.
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>>98513988
NEW
>>98513988
NEW
>>98513988
NEW
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>>98513972
I've had my shitty poison deck called out for the same thing. Somehow I'm the bad guy for killing the simic landfall deck before turn 6.
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>>98513497
Tibalt's Trickery into it
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>>98513929
Trudge Garden is better than I let on, btw. Mana sinks, even conditional ones, are great for preventing dead turns.

Due to the size of tokens you'll be creating regularly, I'd also recommend garruk's uprising for card draw with trample as an added bonus.

Pic related does a passable impression of Cathar's Crusade for 2 mana less when you have Trostani on the field. Also combos with stuff like Herd Baloth and Walking Ballista
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>>98513854
Antiub is the antiproxy thread.
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>>98513938
No, you just asked for suggestions based on a list I told you I refused to look at, so I have no reference point. If you want to persistantly gain tons of life, soul sisters with life increase replacement effects is about as good as it gets. Or I guess giving lifelink to creatures that scale with your life total.
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With Volo how do you guys go about recording creature types on his artifacts? I was thinking of just using a note on my phone so I can easily wipe it between games. Also which background would you recommend? I was considering using Master Chef.
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There are too many interesting commanders to pick from
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>>98509515
Does Duh check the printed text on the card or the oracle text?
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>>98513583
literal yugioh class war
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>>98509390
Hit em with one of these.
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>>98509494
That woman's smile does not reach her eyes



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