Home Depot EditionPrevious: >>98509364>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: Equipment that you use in general in your decks that are nowhere close to being voltron?
>>98513988None because equipment sucks
>TQYes.
>>98513988>TQ
>>98513988>TQI hecking love Jitte and put it in most decks with a commander that costs 4 or less.
>>98513988why the fuck does this card (Buster Sword) keeps increasing in price? right now it's at a 1.50$ increase DAILY, it's at fucking 215$ in TCG right fucking know when it was 120$ a month ago, WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON ?
>>98513972>>98513977>>98513983>>98513991gavin is fine with people being killed early via voltron/infect, besides such strategies are true b2 and UB is full of these character archetypes that wotc wants to sell to youhttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2597691530?t=00h54m28s
>>98514000checked and keked enjoy your new house in FIVE (5) years and all your student debts paid
>>98514000As UB it's reserve listed. If they announce another FF set (which they 100% will at some point, maybe FF legends or some other bullshit subtitle) it'll probably go down in preparation for the increase in supply. But most likely it'll be different artwork.
>>98514001doesn't stop the guy at the store turning red and seething and yelling
>>98514018Can you tell me what does reserved listed means?
>>98514021Just get Gavin to explain it to the guy. You can summon him to your exact location by speaking the words "I cast Wildfire".
>>98513988>TQ: Equipment that you use in general in your decks that are nowhere close to being voltron?This bad boy is in my Shiko Narset list just to untap lands. The protection is a nice little bonus.
>>98514023The reserved list, is a list of cards that WotC will never reprint.Cards from licensed product, do to the licenses can not be reprinted freely. They are RL cards/
>>98514037Ohh, thank you, I didn't know that was a thing.
>>98514028>wildfireI do personally hate the fact that wildfire and destructive force were caught in the crosshairs, but alas, life goes on
>>98514023In the traditional sense the list they won't reprint. The price going up is speculation that UB are their own version of it because of licensing issues. They have reprinted UB cards but it is extremely rare. More generic cards have a better chance of being reprinted but shit like buster sword, cloud, vivi, all of these cards won't get a reprint unless we have another FF set. They might do another UW set like they did with streetfighter but they haven't done one since 2023 as far as I'm aware. A lifetime in the brains of mtg investors.
>>98514000>>98514018>>98514037>>98514051I hope this doesn't fuck up the prices for the Final Fantasy 30 Booster Pack Box as I have being eyeing one for days now to play Draft format with my friends...
>>98514051They did, but it was Arena only. They didn't want to make an entire set that is just spiderman but isn't gay, and watch it outsell spiderman.
>>98514055Don't worry. This very valuable buster sword is only in collector boosters.
>>98514064That's good! Thank you
>>98514021I've played against enough retards who just play Armageddon and don't protect their own lands. No thanks. You can waste your own time.
>>98514000Why do you keep obsessing over this? Are you fishing for compliments for owning a card you're treating like a stock investment? Why don't you start announcing the hourly price changes while you're at it.
>>98514058>ArenaGo back to /v/
>>98513988There's barely ever a reason to cut it if you're running a commander who likes to attack
>>98514098isn't the arena thread on /tg/?
>>98514079you already complained 4 times before we get it
>>98514104Yes, if it was up to me they would be moved to /vg/ where they belong.
>>98514104Yes.Its a moot point anyway since all that was being said is the factual statement that they made a UW set for spiderman in arena.
>>98514104it is very funny that arena is only on /tg/ while chess is on /vg/ too though
>chess finally got esports saudi money>mtg still can't>because mtg is just too woke for the oil princeslet that sink in anons
>>98514137I'd rather not have saudis involved in mtg.
>>98514137I don't think we should be championing taking saudi blood money and magic is doing just fin without it.
>>98514148but you champion proxies made by uygur-opressing chinese though?
love me Splendy boiiianyone else get some good collector pulls?
>>98513988>TQ:Short bow because vigilance is best keyword in EDH, Heirloom because it's a considerable power boost and keeps me with a creature on board, sometimes even being a sneaky tutor, basilisk collar because sometimes lifegain matters or I can make myself a don't-touch-me stick.
>>98514164Some people here might. I fucking don't.
>>98514169so why can't mtg have saudi esports money again?
>>98514172WotC don't want their blood money, or the saudis aren't interesting in magic.Both reasons are for the best.Again, the fuck does that have to do with chinese bootlegs?
>>98514101its mr Fece-ables>TQshadow spear goes in almost everything, Voltron or not. of course I don't own a single real one because the TMNT one is a little too pricey for that bad of art. but I have one copy of this one from Chang and I can't beliebe GōtC allowed this art in the 2020'salso doesn't everyone still put Lightning Greaves and/or Swiftfoot Boots in their decks?
>>98514166fucking nice man, really loving the art, congrats! was that from the pre release?
>>98514180i dunno what does saudi blood money have to do with anything?
>>98514166>Go to buy a strixhan collectors booster a week after it came out>It was 60 dollarsFuck man, I'd rather just buy what I want than waste that much money on gambling.
>>98514192The saudis, that you brought up. I'm writing you off as a retard now. Don't (you) me.
>>98514001is tifa any good? she looks like she can inflict some serious pain if you build around her decently but it might be a noob trap (i am a noob so I cannot tell)
>TQ, con't>>98514184also thinking of one of my few non-Voltron decks, its tribal white/black Knights I actually ordered a couple copies of this S-word so its in a couple decks? why?well with Squall Seed Mercenary he gets double strike for attacking alone (despite this its not actually a Voltron deck but making tokens of Knight. Exemplar and the exalting knights with Mirrormind Crown) you create more defender knights that are tapped and attacking. but the trigger for double strike already occurred. NEAT HUHthen I have it in TOSKI. why does the GOATED HORSE RIDING squirrel legend want this? well each creature that does combat damage will trigger another instance of card draw. so this is also a card draw engineit seems like a very Timmy and Voltron oriented thing but its pretty useful. plus you get some more defenders on the board.
>>98514198She dumps all her gas to knock out one person in a 4 person game early. So no, not really.
>>98514197>shitting on saudi hijinks good>but shitting on chink hijinks - hurting the feelings of the Chinese people 伤害中国人民的感情 - badok chang
>>98514208essentially yes, though there is some tech to keep her fighting after the initial attack
>Have a 23/23 with shroud>Gets to my turn>Only person with mana up is the blue player with two blue>Play traverse the outlands to draw 24 forests>Counterspell>I scream at the top of my lungs>YOU CUNT>Asked to leave by the LGS managerI was just annoyed, fuck me for wanting to do something fun in front of a blue player.
>>98514189thanks brotendo. my local target had one collector booster yesterday and I know a lot of the staff there and I asked them to hold on to it for me if they could. they did, and I got it and opened it and that was the last card in the pack. also had dancing from dark til dawn full art and a couple other 10 dollar cards but I'm a pretty happy camper with it. I did 2 pre-releases and bought a single collector and regular booster. between what I bought & won I opened like maybe 16 packs total and most was trash except for the Arkenstone (regular) the other collector pack (marked up to 58.99) had a foil book cover Smaug Wicked Wormthe most excited non book pulls I got though were some Troop of Ponies for commander >>98514193im not really a gambler but I could feel it in my balls this pack had the Gleaming Boiiii in it. saved me 100 bucks, plus I got a couple other half decent cards
>>9851423023 forests, whatever
>>98514230as a blue player, having you be escorted out of the building because of counterspell is very fun
>>98514230>Why didn't they just let me win?
>>98514230>>98514234>>98514236heh heh heh, nuthin personell, kid
>>98514101is this a mr beast card? what the fuck? did he just copy it from a 2011 mtg card?
>>98514167always forget about short bow
>>98514251its mr Fece-ables (theres feces in the candy bars)
>>98514167I was randomly browsing through cards and thought of grabbing a short bow. I didnt know what I would put it in, but it seemed useful. I bought a Serra's Blessing instead I used to like to run sword of vengeance in everything but its too unwieldy most of the time
Mox No Homo ChipArtifact0Suck dick? - 0, equip this to yourself:. Any player may play this ability on their turn.No matter how much peepee you touch - If a triggered ability would cause an opponent to draw a card or make a treeasure, you draw that card or make a treasure instead. Finish off your homies - As long as this is equipped to a player, that player's opponents may search their library for a card, reveal it, and put it into their hands at the end of the turn. >>98514166I bought a draft bundle, pulled foil dwarvish mox amber, sold for 1.5k
>>98514272This card wins so many games. Just the nature of combat focused multiplayer games. It powercreeps Serra's but Serra's just has so much soul to it.
>>98514278>even 2014 mtg no longer has soulDamn when did the game die for you buddy
>>98514276
>>98514287the fugly ass black bottom frame.
>>98514234>>98514236>>98514246I even have Boseiju, Who Shelters All in my deck. Just not at that moment. Guess I should have waited to draw it or crop rotation. I just am so sick of playing against blue. The meta at my local LGS is very blue heavy, the majority of commander decks have some blue in them.
>>98514287NTA but T*rkir was just a uniquely shit block and plane in general.
>>98514232>I know a lot of the staff there and I asked them to hold on to it for me if they could.>they did, and I got it and opened it and that was the last card in the pack. also had dancing from dark til dawn full art and a couple other 10 dollar cards but I'm a pretty happy camper with it.Based as fuck my man, that Poni card got me good on my round 3 of pre-release. I was against this Aragorn looking guy that was cosplaying his whole armor and shit (he was fucking good but was also humble as fuck and we immediately started talking about anime and stuff after he won). Glad you got your money's worth, good shit.
Garak, Simple Tailor2UBLegendary Creature - Cardassian SpyDeathtouchPlayers play with the top card of their libraries revealed.You may cast spells from the top of your library.T: Scry 31/4
>>98514272>>98514278reconnaissance is better
>>98514340It's okay you still have people playing historical revisionist for it because it's "old" MtG even though the only reason anyone bought it was because it had fetches.
>>98514353should be orc rogue
>>98514334No timmy, you are just autistic
>>98514369>modern MTG>oldzoomers out
>>98514374That's what LARPers claim hence why I put "old" in quotation marks.For me, old MtG is when your type 2 deck could run 1 copy of Morphling as its only creature and every matchup was a slog because it was infinitely easier to make resources than to spend them on winning the game.
anime gookslop does not belong in the game. keep the game aesthetics regular instead of zomg lol my waifu cartoon cringe
>>98514381Yeah you and what army? The dead containment thread? Haha
>>98514118Chess is literally a videogame cause everyone on both sides uses engines.
>>98514380Jokes on you i'm old enough to have seen ante cards be pulled from boosters and now that people play with fakes this totally fair card should be unbanned
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98514397But really arena isnt on /vg/ because it's a lot chuddier than /tg/ that's all there is to it
>>98514401it's just a wheel for 1 what could go wrong
>>98514401If you steal my fakes, then people will know I am using fakes, which wouldn't be a problem to begin with because proxies are used by everyone and completely accepted. What? No. I'm still not playing ante.
>>98514408Nothing, because old mtg is sacred and can do no wrong
>>98514166Out of town for the weekend, comic shop had $42 hobbit collectors. Got this wicked worm
>TQ I just find it really cool and thematic in my white decks
>there is a strong possibility Trek will have a bunch of new "isn't legendary" clone effects and maybe even a proper clone commander with OdoI'm fucking horny bros.
>>98514442oh hey was making a lure deck soon totally grabbing this thanks
>>98514509Might want this too if you didn't know about it.
When are we getting more goad auras ffs
>>98514426Hell yeah, happy for you anon
>>98514532Oh shit I got that card foil from a Final Fantasy Gift Bundle, is it really that good?
>>98514510I did include that! Honestly one could look at it as a sort of evasion too really since it's a huge deterrent to chump blocks.
>>98514426congrats, very sick. great deal and a great pull. love that smaug. these are my best pulls from my 2 collectors. Smaug, Eagle Lord & the commander Gandalf were from a collector I got last week at a pre-release and the Gleaming was from last night's from Tar-zhaypretty good luck, not trying to press my luck any more I'm cashed out I think
>>98514510The fact the equipment deals the damage makes this a bad card
>>98514401yes this should be commander legal. just with errata that the first card gets removed from the game (exiled) instead of added to antewhat black lotus this is the GOAT
>>98514367huh?>>98514278>>>98514278thats is better for sure but yeah lots of flavor in the Serra card. might not even keep it in there. I like cards with the pre-keywords. like I use Weatherlight's Fervor that says "creatures you control are unaffected by summoning sickness" even though theres better haste enchantments
>>98514287>>98514308not sure how pic is related but yeah mid 2014 (so m15) is when it died. the new horrible card frame so theres no flavor border at all. I have gone out of my way to make sure almost every version of every card, or at least lands are either the original frame or the 2003 frame (old modern frame). or future sight, future sight is bad as fuck now.
>>98514401This but unironicallyPut some fear in those whales with their secret lair all foil miku decks
>TQI run this in my Lathril elfball deck. Makes her unblockable for cheap
>>98514673I didn’t realise there was a new thread up. Can someone answer my question about volo?
>>98514401>Make it so the ante clause doesn't matter.>Its still a one mana wheel.This card is broken. Its never happening even if they functionally erratad it to not have ante
>>98513988
>>98514566It's one of those cards that doesn't seem great in theory but really shines irl.
>TQI run this in Anim Pakal. I think over all its underrated in the treasure token factory that is commander as a whole.
>>98514709I'm going to use it on my Sephiroth Blue/Black deck thank you so much for showing it.
>>98514697>This card is broken.You don't know that because it never saw any play, did you just assume xir playability?! It should be given a fair shake we are a just society here.Similarly cards that don't require dexterity should also be unbanned, a lot of them are actually very fun
>>98514718>You don't know thatI know how powerful wheel of fortune is, and this only costs 1 mana while that one costs 3.
>>98514566Its a lot more versatile than it would appear at first blush.Target your enemies creatures to remove nonsense and force it to go another way; give it to opponents that are flagging to give them a scary blocker. Use it to get a 4/2 over on something or as your own blocker. Its recursion gives you an option for recasting it; overall it's solid.
>>98514730i disagree but at least you find necro-impotence fair so we can leave it at that
>>98514689>notingDoesn't matter. Anything. Notes app works fine.>backgroundThere are none with actual synergy. If you want to do impulse draw cast from exile, you could use Passionate Archeologist. If you want to be more defensive you can use Noble Heritage. If you want big stompy, maybe some +1/+1 counter synergy, use Master Chef.
>>98514718You know I think the real thing that made Unfinity so soulless, more than the stickers or the move to black border, was not having the art break the frame much. The skelly dude's frustrated tapping on the type box adds a lot of character here.
>>98514689Just print out a list and put like a d6 on each one you used or just cross them out if you want to keep printing pages.
>POV: you're playing blue
>>98514532Best goad aura
>Guy argues with me for 5 minutes that, while I can fetch this with sunforger, I can't cast any of its modes.What are some of the worst either misunderstanding of rules or just flat out weaseling shitbag attempts at angle shooting you've had happen?
>>98514872A guy who tried to convince me ward was symmetrical and I also had to pay ward costs to target my own creatures.
>>98514872Yeah you can’t pay any of the sprees modes off of that tutor because in order to pay spree costs you need to be casting it from hand, graveyard or exile while paying its mana cost. The problem is that it’s paying the main spell for free, not paying its additional costs, so it’s still going to go onto the stack but as a 1 cost spell that does nothing and fissles. You really gotta look into how modal spells work instead of arguing for 5 minutes after you attempted to free cast literally nothing.
>>98514891Why would you be unable to pay the spree costs? You can pay kicker costs off free casts.
Does using Wishing Well to cast something out of grave trigger valley floodcaller?
>>98514893Ah I get it now then. Yeah you can cast the initial spell for free but you still need sources to pay the additional costs, I didn’t know that was the argument. I just assumed you thought you were getting the whole thing for free.
>>98514891>in order to pay spree costs you need to be casting it from hand>702.172a Spree is a static ability found on some modal spells (see rule 700.2) that applies while the spell on the stack. Spree means “Choose one or more modes. As an additional cost to cast this spell, pay the costs associated with those modes.”You're still casting the base spell, for free.
>>98514891This is incorrect. You can't pay alternative costs (e.g. overloading cyclonic rift) because freecasting is itself an alternative cost, but you can pay additional costs (e.g. kicker), and in some cases you must (e.g. Big Score)
>>98514872I had a guy completely convinced double strike would effect a fight effect. He argued "it's fighting, so of course double strike effects it". He backed down after everyone else at the table clearly agreed it didn't at all work like that but he clearly looked like he thought he was right even after.
>>98514902I've had that argument too when an etali flipped someone's Winds of Abandon.
Post the commander you are building right this moment
I am once again asking for some good ways to cheat enter the infinite with Grixis colours
>>98514979I'm not currently building any.
>>98514994Play Cormela and just hard cast it
There are too many interesting commanders to pick from
I pulled Queen of Dale and Gleaming Splender, what deck do I build to use them?
There's only two types of commander: Chokepoint and precon. Sythis is a chokepoint, while Aesi is a precon.
>>98515007Thats retarded.I want to cheat it, draw my library, and kill the table
>>98515026>have to buy a toy to get a Captain America, Team Leader that doesn't look like shit
>>98515034You're a mousecuck, you should be used to this kind of treatment. Prep the bull, cucky.
>>98515037>You're a mousecuckWhat the fuck are you even talking about?
>>98515034Im just glad Im not a coomer and just wanted Blu 2099 Doom
I reveal Fin Fang Foom as my commanderhow do you respond?
>>98515044I mulligan for oubliette
>>98514979I need to keep reworking my Xavier Sal Mutate deck, but my latest brew is this nonsense.
>>98515044Begin espousing the virtues of MLD and comment on how WotC is a bunch of cowards for not powercreeping Sinkhole and Strip Mine.
>>98515073Fin doesn't really count as MLD.
>>98515095I didn't say I was doing this for any related reason. I just bring this up every time I sit down.
>>98515095He can't get counters if no one has lands.
>>98515095he is gavin-approved mld, which is all that matters
>>98514601It still has some fair use but man it would be nice to have an updated version that would
Bro Bloomburrow was really 2 years ago
>>98515147Yeah.
>>98514979She's really cool, I bought an Outlaws pack on a whim when I was getting some sleeves and a deck box and got her and I'm really getting inspired by her gimmick
>>98514994Tibalt's Trickery into it.
This card would be fantastic in one of my decks but Warhammer doesn't fit the theme, and Necrons especially don't, so I was thinking of getting or making an alter. Would something about the Mirari, lorewise, make sense for the effects? That might be too important, however, since this card isn't legendary.
>>98515026how are you discarding lands after drawing your deck?
>>98514979I'm building Rafiq because Bant was a cool plane.>>98514994Off the top of my head you got Mizzix's Mastery and Sins of the Past in grixis.
what are some cool cards I could fit into my Clement deck? I wanna keep my staple goodstuff as close to frog-themed as possibleBut I am more than willing to play Ponder because it says "Pond" in it, if that helps
>>98515338flash seems good so you can use the bounce thing as protection on top of doubling potetial etbs. altho none of these are frogs, I like the 3 mana vivien, new radagast and high fae trickster
>>98515349thanks anon. that vivien seems interesting, I run Valley Floodcaller for a similar approach + chance to have crazy output with Clement bounces/mana tapping. Wouldn't hurt to look at one of these to have flash for creatures too I suppose
>>98514872This is long time ago but my sister convinced me that pic related stopped me from using spells like terror or disenchant because "destroying something" is "damage", that "damage to you" ment targeting anything of hers or herself and that "coming into play" ment at the start of her turn. She basically used it to stop all interactions against her, her creatures and permanents. I got so frustrated at being unable to play the game I went full blue nigger on her made a counterspell deck. Needless to say she claimed counterspells were also "damage".
>>98514872My buddy built several decks around Icy Manipulator and the like on the basis that he could react to you tapping lands for mana by tapping those lands, preventing you from getting mana. A sort of soft land destruction strat. >>98514914Frankly I don't blame him and I agree it SHOULD work like that. Fight effects are dogshit and should be treated as combat.
>>98514369>>985143403xktk great draft format
>>98515425>My buddy built several decks around Icy Manipulator and the like on the basis that he could react to you tapping lands for mana by tapping those lands, preventing you from getting mana. A sort of soft land destruction strat.Am I missing something?>605.3b: “An activated mana ability doesn’t go on the stack, so it can’t be targeted, countered, or otherwise responded to.”
>>98515467The thing you are missing is the ability to parse the text in post >>98514872, the one that anon responded to.
>>98515475I just don't understand how his friend got the rule so wrong. It's basic mtg knowledge.
>>98515479I fear that not even science can explain that one.
>>98515365if it's a creature heavy deck then valley floodcaller can be a bit underwhelming, unless you are making frog tokens with sorceries or something. I'd replace the otter with one of those previously mentioned since it's not even frog themed anyway
>>98514198bristly bill but bad
>>98514979Technically the lists are set, but I'm on vacation so I need to get home before I can actually build them.
>>98515273I'd say away from legendaries, yeah. How about a gold mask from Theros?
>>98513983If you look at the rule, losing the game before turn 4 to a deck also means that your deck is T4. So anon is correct. You have a T4 deck.
How are yall building Silverquill the Disputant?
>>98515867Based. Voltron confirmed cedh
>>98515869I go all in on digging for Morality Shift and copying it. After both copies have resolved, I pass the turn to the next player.
>>98514232Isn’t this just an objectively better burnished hart?Fuckin’ power creep…
>>98515916erm actually Burnished Hart activates to do an Explosive Vegetation and the Troop of Ponies only activates to do a Cultivate
>>98515916No. Burnished Hart cost 3 and 3 to activate to get two lands into play tapped.This costs 2 and 2 to activate to get one land into play tapped and the other to your hand.It us better, but it's somewhat apples to oranges.
Thank fuck I don't have to look at that FUCKING NIGGER BITCH on my cards anymore now that we have new and improved artwork. I hate looking at niggers!
You need to be born with the talent for deckbuilding.
>>98514979I recognize your where's my bird man.
>>98515916Taps, a lot of reanimator strategies using burnished hart would prefer not to wait for summoning sickness.
>>98515987gay
My friend wants me to play commander his one is atraxa , am i going to get pubstomped bringing a precon ?
>EDH night>Sit down with a random pod>B2>Pull out my trusty Akim, the Soaring Wind deck.>Turn one, scalding Tarn (proxy)>Player across from me begins gnashing his teeth>Crack fetch, find Plateau (proxy)>Teeth gnasher tears his shirt open and begins screaming>"This is B2 you motherfucker, bracket TWO, how fucking dare you pubstomp us like this. Fuck you>He pulls out a gun and points it at himself>"I'll fucking show you, you won't beat me fuck">Shot rings out.>The local Rogsi player shot him in the back, he winks at me, then sits back down and finishes casting Tainted Pact.>Rest of the pod plays as normal.
>>98516084This happened, by the way.
>>98516077before anything else you did buy the correct precon right?
>>98516107Ive not pulled the trigger on precon purchase yet, but yes it will be one of the EoE decks and/or tarkir (mardu/azban)
>>98514979My brother has a really fun Meren deck and it inspired me to try and build one of my own
So I've got my pod bitching at each other, and I need the geniuses on this mongolian basket weaving forum to settle the debate.>Friend X buys the Miku precon and upgrades it to what he claims is B3 (3GC, no high speed 2 card combos, relies on big stompy shit to win)>Friend Y, me, and another friend play>halfway through the game, X casts the Miku Vorinclex>Y immediately calls X out, says Vorinclex is MLD and thus B4>X claims this is not the case, since the "D" means destruction>I chime in just to mention the "D" includes denial>X says denial is total lockout like Blood Moon, not a "tax" like Vorinclex>he compares Vorinclex to something like Rhystic or Tithe, where it slows/cripples other players instead of outright locking them out>also mentions Vorinclex is no longer a GC, thus proving his pointI'm inclined to think Vorinclex is MLD, but he's not on the level of Blood Moon. Is that like soft/stax MLD or something then? Did we ever get an official statement on this? All I heard was they removed him from the GC list, but they didn't comment about his MLD status.ON THE OTHER HAND, him being off the GC list is kinda confusing. If he's still B4 material, why would it even matter? That kinda implies he's B3 safe now.
>>98516189>Did we ever get an official statement on this?i love how people just say this admitting they don't read gavin's articles>yes he did give an official definition you fuck and vorinclex isn't mld
>>98514051They'll eventually release an entire set of UW variants as a mystery booster or SLD or special set and everyone relying on this will be completely BTFO. Have fun playing hot potato, I guess.
>>98516198Guess I'm blind then. I'll go dig up the argument and give it to these two bozos so they can stop yelling. Is there a reason moxfield and other sites still call Vorinclex MLD then?
>>98516189Vorinclex is considered MLD but absolutely should not be. Just like Blood Moon or Winter Moon. MLD is armageddon. Literally just stop building every deck with the gameplan of windmill slamming bombs and Vorinclex isn't nearly as problematic. Just swords him and lose a land for one turn like a fucking man.
>>98516201>Is there a reason moxfield and other sites still call Vorinclex MLD then?they are morons, simple ascompare them to edhpowerlevel.com that actually knows what gavin said and gives out their reasoning, even their wilder interpretations they are at least honest about
>>98516211>prevent multiple lands from untappingDoesn't that describe Vorinclex?
>>98516218look at the definition and look at vorinclex, i know you can do this anon i know you're not that dumb
genuinely how did we get to a point where a core component of the game is just off limits to interact with because enough people were too fucking stupid to figure out ways to play around it?
>>98516240>what is griefing via mld? surely that's impossible
>>98516243literally no one cast armageddon without a parity break in mind that's just a collective psychosis imagined up by retards mad they overextended. if you got enough retards together to say creature board wipes were too feelsbad for the game you could get that punted to bracket 4 too.
>>98516218Four or more, the removal spell that will immediately be used on big sexy clexy costs 3 at most.
>>98516240somewhere around the retardation of trying to make a fun, casual, singleton format that was almost exclusively better than standard in the sole realm of player expression a Serious Competitive Game
>>98516253>i'm losing the game? guess i'm gonna armageddon and make people suffer haha>hey you know what'll be funny? casting armageddon on curve t4 making people groan is hella fun
>>98516260Never seen this happen in my life before brackets.
>>98516257mld was never a serious strategy though
>>98516240Because the whole gimmick of this format used to be casting 9 mana crap rares and you cannot do that when people are blowing up lands. As time went on the format the format became about playing gay streamlined actually effective synergy piles but people never let go of their "you are not allowed to stop me from doing things" mindset.
>>98516262>i never saw it so it didn't happen>casual sentiments in a casual game? what's that?make a wild guess why this was bannedprotip: it's not because of its actual power level
Anyone who says that cards that effectively stop you from using lands arent the same thing as an Armageddon in the majority of instances shouldnt be taken seriously >>98516240Commander is a casual format and people are not trying to play games where they arent able to cast anything over 3 cmc the entire game because the landfall player is destroying everyone's mana base just so they can recur their own, or a player who cant even do that and just thinks its fun for the lols to do it multiple times a gameor the stax player who really wants to play muh technical card and pretend that not being able to use your lands isnt the same as them being blown up the majority of timeCommander is about playing unserious shit that you cant play elsewhere in a casual multiplayer setting and in a casual multiplayer setting the enjoyment of everyone involved is more important than whether or not you actually win and if you cant understand that then you should be playing standard
>>98515400Lmao, is your sister a lawyer now?
>>98514979Because I love redheads and want to make her work
If you notice you're facing a lot of artifact decks, you scryfall up cards that can easily wipe out artifacts efficiently. If you notice your planeswalker deck keeps getting bullied in creature heavy pods, you can run a lot of board wipes. If you notice people just keep windmill slamming 7 mana bombs after ramping for 3 turns, WOAH WOAH WOAH HOLD ON THERE BUDDY WE CAN'T HAVE YOU RUINING THE GAME FOR THEM. PICK ON DECKS YOUR OWN SIZE LIKE KRIIK OR KINNAN
>>98516287>If you notice you're facing a lot of artifact decks, you scryfall up cards that can easily wipe out artifacts efficiently without gimping yourself>If you notice your planeswalker deck keeps getting bullied in creature heavy pods, you can run a lot of board wipes without gimping yourself.>If you notice people just keep windmill slamming 7 mana bombs after ramping for 3 turns you should totally blow up everyone's lands including your own too like a motherfucker slashing his own wrists!
>>98516270>the landfall player is destroying everyone's mana base just so they can recur their ownliterally just destroy the recursion cards or exile their yard like you should be fucking doing anyways regardless of if they use MLD or not.
>>98516268>9 mana crap raresTotally unrelated to the argument at hand, but do people actually do that? I've seen people play poorfag options, but I don't think I've ever seen people play intentionally shitty cards "for the funsies".
>>98516270>Commander is about playing unserious shitYeah like Ruination.>and in a casual multiplayer setting the enjoyment of everyone involved is more important than whether or not you actually winYeah I agree, ban wrath of god and counterspell.
>>98516287You will not stop my Green Timmy schemes. Yes, I plan to fart out every version of " 1G/2G play a land and get one in hand" by turn 3.
>>98516264yeah people do arbitrary things when they try to make unserious things serious, because they are fickle, unserious people
>>98516291Wrong ruination doesn't effect me because I don't fetch duals.
>>98516316unfortunately for you gavin doesn't make distinctions between basic and nonbasic, so cry more i guess
>>98516287
*Blanks your craterhoof*
>>98516084based B2 fetch in to true dual proxy player. rising the floor of your deck doesn't bring your bracket up, only the highest potential does no matter if you run 0 tutors
the same people wanting true dual fakes are the same people whining why people play 5c slop btw
>>98516189mld should be bracket 3 anyway but since he played miku xe is cringe. also blood moon is not a total lock out either
>>98516419>he thinks he can stop the rape trainThis dude saved my ass during eoe prerelease.
>>98516203>not floating the one before he lands
>>98516240because extra turns are lame and nobody should be able to play things I don't personally like
>>98516269it was the power level, wasn't it. otherwise all solitaire cards would be b&
>>98516467>it was the power level, wasn't it.no it was actually the incredible amount of durdling it caused wasting everyone's time
>>98516323Yes, I will. Every thread until it changes.
>>98516141fun how?
I've realized something, someone was jokingly or maybe seriously thinking of building a child of alara deck, when I just looked up indestructible mana rocks on scryfall and posted a screenshot the first response was something along the lines of >Yeah bro just add $200 worth of cards to your deck That's when it struck me, the anti-proxy fag is just bitter people proxy and he spends. The most egregious of those artifacts was of a mind Stone and the soul stone, each of those are fairly expensive, but not game-breakingly powerful. So the anti-proxy fag it seems to get mad at proxies solely because people proxy expensive cards and not strictly powerful cards. He's a bitter paypig.
>>98516524>edh is a social game guys>what do you mean i have to abide by social norms, like buying genuine items? wtf?!
>>98515875I wish it was, Voltron deleting a combo player from the table instantly would be really funny
>>98516507Idk I just find graveyard shit fun
>>98516524thanks for once again proving that proxy fags are usually just uncreative noobs who don't want to do any real digging or investigating to make their deck concept work. a real card to proxy because it's expensive is this guy, but you've never heard of him because you're the exact type of manchild UB was designed to rake in. or you could just fucking spend like 10 bucks for dawn's truce or anything really.
>>98516524It is amusing that you still believe there is only one person who doesn't like proxies,
Have you ever traded counterfeit cards? I remember way back when I lived in New york city l, I traded, I think 10 cards, including a cabal coffers and cradle for a commander anthology 2. I sometimes think about it, I wonder who out there ended up with those fake cards. It's something you definitely couldn't get away with today.
>>98516706>Have you ever traded counterfeit cards?of course not i'm not a shameless nigger stealing from whole foods and say it's just a rounding error
>>98516706I was traded a fake Archangel of thune from a friend, one of his old 4 of play set.He then tried to sell his other 2 to and lgs and was told they were fake. He did give me the money for its value since I did trade him real card for it.That has been my only experience with fake cards.
>>98514979I'm buying for all 3 right now
>>98516706No because I just proxy everything I need so I don't get scammed buying cards from third party sellers for my real money
>>98514979If you look on edhrec for most used cards, it's every pet card I use. I cosplayed as jester's cap and have a signed jester's cap card from dan frazier - it's like the perfect commander to finally have a pay off for all of the stupid exile shit I run. I'm the only person I've seen run extract, psychic surgery, uba mask, crumbling sanctuary or fathom feeder
>>98516931unfathomably based
>>98516931I love when the artists actually put effort into the art. Like that dude having the old jester scepter.
https://strawpoll.com/ajnE14or0nW
>>98516931the fucked thing with this guy, is that he gets around things like shared spoils.
>>98516931Honking good post anon
>>98516931How does this work with Omen Machine? I see potential for hilarity.
>>98517126As far as I can tell it doesn't do dick wtih Omen Machine.
>>98517126if you run trinisphere, then you get to cast their shit later if they don't cast it, or if it's just a spell with no legal way to cast it yet, like a counterspell. You don't get priority to cast the spell they exile while the ability is resolving.But. Uba mask for example works with windfall, if you cast it.
>>98516524This never happened by the way
>yshtola player has at least 20 cards in hand>kefka player with hexing squelcher casts jeskas will>casts torment of hailfire>yshtola player tells him to wait, responds to jeskas by casting one with nothing>discards hand>???>yshtola still has a rhystic study dragon enchanted with moonlit meditation with homunculus hordeStupidll fkin game
>>98517337This did not take place.
>>98517337If they guy passed prio for jeskas will and then the cat fucker passed prio back, then he can't roll it back.If the kefka player just windmill slammed hellfire without passing prio than this is fine, kefka player was a faggot.
>>98516524That sounds more like he's mad at you for implying he's retarded, like there's actually someone out there that doesn't know the mind and soul stones exist. "They're literally the chase rares in the current standard set, shut the fuck up you faggot.“, would be exactly what would go through my mind at that.
>>98517337This story is so nonsensical it has to be true.
"what are you playing anon?" Procceeds to choose a deck that counters my strat...>mfwevery single time
>>98517390This is why I either roll of my deck out of my box of decks or ask what power level we are wanting to play instead of asking what commander they are playing.
>>98517390This is why you should keep your commanders in separate top loaders, put out a fake Commander, and then use the deck you really want to play, >Oh shit, looks like I grabbed the wrong commander, well I already have the deck out might as well play this one. Swaps out the commander.
>>98517337>casting one with nothingCome on now.
>>98517405we ask prior what bracket or power level we are going to play, they still do this regardless
>>98516524>I'm superior! I'm better! I'm enlightened for using proxies! They are just bitter and seething!Maybe it's not the concept they hate, maybe they just hate the people like (you) who are the kinds who mostly use proxies.
>>98516524I'd be fucking bitter too if I sent a single shekel at MaNo lomoa
>>98515960You are mentally retarded. It's still giving you two lands for less total mana.
>>98517390This has yet to happen
When did you stop buying magic product? I stopped once normal booster boxes crossed the 100 buck threshold. I used to buy at least 1 box every set and every single commander deck, but that shit is unsustainable for my budget now. The Hatsune Miku stuff is the only product I bought in years. And even then, I know it wasn't worth it, I just love vocaloid.
>>98517441https://mtg.wiki/page/Strictly_better
>>98517469I buy a few packs each set just to fulfill a slight gambling itch and the nostalgia of cracking packs and smells new cards, otherwise I just buy singles.
>>98517337i look and talk like this when it happens
>>98517469i only buy Final Fantasy MTG products so basically I haven't bought anything for a fucking while and it's only from scalpers thank you WotCt. planning on buying another 30 booster pack box soon
>>98517486new cards really do smell good.
>>98517522They do, and always brings me back to when I started playing back during tempest.
>>98517469Every six months or so I'll buy 5-10 packs from a few sets that I don't know much about or haven't opened many packs from, to satisfy the urge to open some new cards. It brings back some of the fun of seeing new draft chaff cards and considering how best to use them, rather than optimising my existing decks.Financially I've been lucky to just about break even, I pulled a Cavern of Souls from Avacyn Restored, and a Sheoldred, the Apocalypse from Dominaria United, both in Japanese.
>Friend keeps bitching about broken green is>Every deck they play includes greenWhat causes this?
>>98517581jealousy
>>98517559>Financially I've been lucky to just about break evenYou sold those instantly? I doubt it. I know people like you who say that they "didn't lose money" because of good pulls but they haven't sold it and won't sell it.
>>98517422Just lie lol
>>98517586Basically this. People brag about making money back, but 98% of the time the never intended to sell, and with the way this game goes, often the best time to sell is the first 8 months of a set.
>>98517598>often the best time to sell is the first 8 months of a setthis is the mind of someone who's been RAPED by "cryptocurrencies", pay no attention
>sell a non-foil one ring from the hobbit>buyer refuses to release funds because he claims the card is fakeFuckkk my chud ass life oh my god i'm getting scammed bro
>>98517586>>98517598Okay fair point, I haven't sold and in fact the cards are not even in any decks yet, but I don't think it's important to sell them if I'm indicating the value of cards I opened roughly matches what I've spent on packs.
>>98517441>ramps 2 for 6vs>ramps 1 (and grabs a land to hand which you may already have) for 4I believe it is you that is mentalpy retarded, good saar.
>>98517649>mentalpy
>>98517649>>98517652minor_spelling_mistake.gif
>>98517652The fatness my fingers dictates nothing, brother.
>>98517390>mfw they have no counterParry this you fucking casual.
>>98517639Called it. Finding buyers isn't easy. You'll probably give it to your lgs for 70% what it's worth in store credit. Or whatever they offer and sometimes they won't buy it because they have enough cards already.I pulled a fractured foil from foundations, but they couldn't sell fractured foiled cards. So they didn't want it.
>>98517714I always have itBecause I'm cheating, sleight of hand, cards up my sleeves etc.
Im going to be honest Im pretty sure I asked this question recently but I cant find it in the archives so im going to ask it againIf I own a card thats not the most powerful thing ever and its not a land but its something that multiple decks that play that strategy would run do you think its alright just to show proof of having one real copy and then proxying it for other decks or would you be someone who wants that person to have 10 copies of that one card or just have to rotate it between decks every time
>>98517801>do you think its alright just to show proof of having one real copy and then proxying it for other decks or would you be someone who wants that person to have 10 copies of that one card or just have to rotate it between decks every timeYes, that is is what I do, and I'll be honest with you, most people won't even ask for proof.
How do I do exceptionally silly things with this guy? The way I see it, he's Zhulodok's best friend when in the 99, or some sort of degenerate combo with rhystic.
>>98517801I've actually ran into a retard that has cards in multiple decks they they have to manually swap when they want to play another deck. Dude refuses to proxy and everyone hates him because it takes forever in between games and he loves swapping every game.
>>98517801No, I don't think it's alright.
>>98517926Okay. You can wait 15 minutes for me to swap everything.
>>98517801Just proxy or bootleg it. Who the hell cares if you actually own a legit copy? I run nothing but bootlegs these days. I can make any deck I choose for like $200 tops.
>>98518003>Who the hell cares if you actually own a legit copy?A lot of people, clearly, which is why you buy bootlegs to give the impression of real rather than just printer paper or anything else as a proxy.
>>98518027The proxytard paradox >Proxy don't matter, and no one cares>Which is why I use counterfeits so I never need to bother with the argument about proxies at the table
>>98517731General advice I've heard is that if you're offloading your cards then you should expect only 40-50% of their current selling price. And that's not getting into other issues like you mentioned. Selling cards yourself gets you the most potential money, though you still need to deal with fees, shipping, some shitty customers, plus the time you need to spend doing all of this yourself.
>>98518003>I can make any deck I choose for like $200 tops.is this supposed to be a fucking flex? i can buy proxies of cedh decks with white backs for just $6 wtf is wrong with you
Anyone got any recs for good playmat vendors? the only one I know that I like is jankmats
>>98518142I just use ones with storefronts on Amazon
We proxy users are the most oppressed group in all of magic.
>>98518027>>98518078>autists screech about muh proxies, as if paying more magically makes a card OK>bootleg my decks>they never find out>get to play in peace>>98518116>wanting cheap proxiesI want my cards to look/feel the same, aside from a close loupe inspection of course.
>>98518116Where are you getting whole proxy decks THIS cheap?
>>98518303>Admits fully that he is poor, and he uses counterfeits because he doesn't have the backbone to admit that he is using proxies, a practice, by his own admission no one would care about.Kek. Once again, the Proxytard paradox in full swing.
>>98518320>poorIs that what you call not wasting money on cardboard? I'd rather pay $1 or so per card.
Can the janmys start banning the obnoxious proxyshitpost guy?
>>98518027Very few really. Again it's just here
>>98518334Yeah. You are indeed poor if your income is so low you can pay for legit cardboard.>Proxies don't matter! Which is why I use counterfeits >I'm not poor, I just don't want the genuine article.>I use counterfeits because I want them to look like the real thing, not because I want to fool anyone, I just want them to look nice!>You're calling me out on my logical inconsistenties in my behavior? You're screeching!>Actually, I'm better than you because I proxy.Through both direct statements and implications you are hitting every cope on the poor fag checklist.Sad really. Just he honest with yourself.
>>98518339>B-ban anyone who calls me out or disagrees with meAbsolute bitchmode pussy.
>>98518345Then why does everyone here need and support counterfeits as proxies?The proxytard paradox, once again.
>>98518366People get bored of you spamming and disrupting the thread worse than the anti UB whiners
>>98518385>People(You).(You) can't handle pushback for being called out for your ability to be honest about what you're doing.
>>98513988>TQ: Equipment that you use in general in your decks that are nowhere close to being voltron?Only skullclamp basically
>>98514198There's a reason they call her the queen of green. Unlike what the previous noobs said, if you build her with Soul's Majesty effects and Harmonize, you don't run out of gas.
>>98518294Doesn't this mean using proxies is a white people thing?
I want to build a Fafnir deck, should I use Gadrak or one of the Smaug as the mechanical commander?
>>98518428No one calls her that.
>>98515312Discarding for free is the easy part
>>98517469I preordered a box of TRK collector boosters within minutes of them going up. I have two binders full of the secret lair cards I don't use in decks.I've gotten a play booster box for both Spider-Man and Marvel Superheroes, and intend to do the same for the other Marvel releases, as well as getting the gift bundles.Oh, and I got a pizza bundle for Turtles. Would have liked to buy the codex bundle for SOS, but couldn't manage to get it.
>>98518442
>>98518436That's a title more fitting of Goreclaw anyways.
>>98518462Or even Azusa
>>98518334>Is that what you call not wasting money on cardboard? funny how people also want to save on spending money on retarded artists via ai art but suddenly it becomes a moral wrong to use it as a proxy for 'real art' for whatever reason
>>98518494They'll never understand it, that's the core reason why they are hated. They literally don't even like the game.
>>98518494You project a lot ngl senpai
>>98518505>You project a lot ngl senpaibut enough about you exposing yourself furfag your kind is well known for being art fanatics that the mere mention of ai art sends you all rabid
>me when someone in a 500 mile radius uses unofficial cardboard
>>98518530>i copied a real card to use as a standin proxy, i didn't steal anything, i'm not claiming it's real, so it's fine>ok then i copy your art via ai as a standin proxy, i didn't steal anything, i'm not claiming it's real art, so that's fine tooyour seethe is palpable
>>98518530I'll pay your one titty goblin to fuck off my porch, or you'll get the shovel like the rest of that guy's day.
>>98518539you know i wouldn't be surprised that the anons mad at goblin art anon are proxytards themselves and are just mad someone's doing it 'the wrong way'
>>98518534t.
>>98518539>No loli Gobsad
How do I tell someone in my playgroup that just because we okayed big titty girl proxies doesn't mean it's okay for him to show up with dragons in jockstraps with bulges on his proxies?
how many pieces of ramp for a 3 color, 4 mana commander?green included. kindly advise
>>98518530I only use Wizards official non tournament legal cardboard
>>98518551You honestly don't. If you get to use proxies of things you find attractive, so does he.
>>98518554This is ok even though it is equally as illegal as a proxy
>>98518542But that's like the only right way to use proxies because they would never exist in reality otherwise.
>>98518557It sounds like he's talking about the same guy.
>>98518551
>>98518567ngl I believe it happened
>>98518539are there any sexy girl gobbos? asking for a playtesting partner
>>98518553What if you just post your deck or what commander you're building so someone can accurately answer your question.
>>98518586On official cardboard?Most would say no.
>>98518587okay...
>>98518558I got it cut corners and all for 15$ like a decade ago. Never been called on my genuine Wizards cardboard
>>98518598as an aside they really should make the gold border cards legal
>>98518610No, that's retarded. You could never use them unsleeved.
>>98518616like transform cards, right?
>>98518616You really can't play this game unsleeved unless all your cards are perfectly identical (they aren't.)
>>98518594For Eshki I'm thinking about 12-14 pieces so you're likely to have one in your opener and subsequent ramp draws won't be that ass because you can cast literally whatever for her trigger. Bloom Tender and Fanatic of Rhonas are very good so make sure to play those.
>>98518542Yeah. If he actually uses these his board would be an absolute insufferably unreadable mess. He is using proxies wrong because proxies shouldnt make the game worse.
>>98518619No, not like transform cards. You can still technically play those so long as the dealer is properly doing their job and you're not permitted to view your boot, there's nothing related to touch that could influence them like there is with gold cards.
>>98518637okay great!
>>98518494Why are you suddenly talking about ai art? Keep seething.
>>98518586Kreat
>>98518452>>98518442>>98515312
>>98518436Everyone calls Tifa the queen of mono green. It's her official title.
>>98518675Shittier mossborn hydra
>>98518675Never heard it, or read it, from anyone but here, said by you, you autist.
>>98518675Literally never heard that until today. But then again until the other day I didn't know HotC literally did a historical revisionism to justify putting Vorinclex on the GC list so I don't seem to know a lot of whatever goes on outside of the actual commander community.
>>98518668oh that's a pretty good answer. might make a deck around her if I stick around, haven't played anything red yet. any similar cute/sexy cards that'd go with her? doesn't have to be gobbo yes I'm new and my knowledge of the cardpool doesn't go much further than what friends have brought to casual commander
>>98518553Around 12 if you want one consistantly in your opening hand, which you do. Either 1 mana dorks if you don't care about them surviving longterm, or 2 mana rocks and land ramps. Either works.
Do people really think vorinclex is MLD, when WotC just made a retarded 150 dollar bracket 2 deck with him in it?
>>98518727Yes because moxfield and edhrec classify it as such
>>98518730I think WotC is a better source than those sites.
>>98518737WOTC never said it wasn't MLD
>>98518727He never was. He was as GC in the first version on the list.Which means he wasn't MLD from the start.
>>98518727>>98518740I'm fairpy certain wotc specifically addressed vorinclex at aome point in one of their bracket updates abd said that while its effect didn't exactly fit, that they consider it MLD for now.
>>98518752based wotc changing rules randomly to fuck up people's decks because they can't make an actual rule system
>>98518678Mossborn can't be a commander or kill with commander damage you noob>>98518689Now you've heard it. You're welcome
>>98518761Green is full of creature tutors and can easily recover creatures from the graveyard. You don't need commander damage when you can make it a 40+
>>98518752Oh, nm, just checked and that was when it was put on the GC list, that that was the reason it was put there.It was then taken off of the GC list citing its obscene mana value, so I guess it's fine.
>>98518692Just build that $100 goblin stomp deck and slot Kreat into the 99.
>>98518675How dare you.
>>98518769Tutor for a 3 mana creature that needs 40 damage to kill vs casting a repeatable 2 mana creature from the command zone that only takes 21 to kill. You must be really bad at math, anon>>98518828Literally who
>>98518778Yeah, if it were MLD, they wouldn't have put it on the GC list.When they took it off the GC list, they would have said "yeah, no reason for it to be here since it's MLD" but they didn't, they said specifically, it's a strong card but it's cost makes it balanced at lower brackets since it will take so long to drop. Ergo, it's not MLD by Wotcs own logic.
>>98518876>high cmc makes him balanced>when he's green, the color that can slam out a gorillion lands by turn 4
>>98518876>if it were MLD they wouldn't have put it on the GC listIt was on the GC before MLD was recognised by the bracket system.Otherwise, yes, it seems that way despite their reason for putting it on the GC list to start.
>>98518900If you're doing this consistantly, your deck is already b4.
>>98518667Ai art are just proxies for real art anon lol chill
>>98518917Not him, but how? Green can just run three visits, farseek, cultivate, and all the various flavors of them on top of their other pick of landfall degeneracy.
>yet another "this card is mld" episode by anons who dont even know how wotc defines mld in the first place
>>98518950Keep seething, LMAO
>>98518907Anon, what kind of silly revisionist history is this?MLD as a concept and the game changers list were both released at the same time with the introduction of the brackets.Furthermore, the quote you are linking is them saying he's close to being MLD, but not MLD, but they still wanted him out of bracket 2.
>>98518667All he does is seethe
i've seen so many decks just fucking die if you cast this on curve let alone can recur it every turn.
>>98518900No Timmy, a color having ramp doesn't suddenly mean an 8-drop shouldn't do anything useful.
>>98519045He's an asshole and you know it. If you're not running a bunch of dorks or tokens, he can absolutely wreck decks.>inb4 interactionYou're not always going to have swords or path on hand.
>>98519045I have never heard of this card in my life. You must be playing against scrubs
>>98519045>Wow if you Pact lock the table with a Modern Horizons card, you win!Tell me more about this innovative strategy anon.
>>98519061pact lock is a hurdle decks should be ready to survive
>>98519045I just scoop if this gets recurred and I am on a strategy that isn't go wide.
A girl asked to see some of my Magic cards so i showed her my commanders and a few cards I like from those decks.. what do you guys think she'll think of me for these?
>>98519069no gravehate?
>>98519066No deck can survive all possible hurdles in the game.
>>98519073Farewell is a GC now.
>>98519074yeah but i can survive pact with draft chaff
>>98514633that reminder text isn't correct. you can untap a creature after it's dealt damage, it's strictly superior to vigilance
>>98518959Yeah, actually that's really fair if you're running dorks instead of land ramp. I don't know how you could do it with land ramp, though.1 - land, go2 - land, ramp3 - land, double ramp4 - lands, ramp (I guess you have 8 now but it's tapped?)
>>98519083What's the option in monored outside of running some artifact that does nothing else?
>>98519066Okay and your deck should be able to survive me doing a Breach combo yet for some reason you keep losing to it.
>>98518993Sure buddy boy whatever makes you sleep at night us piggies are always ready to salvage f2poors, regards from /vg/ :)
>>98519098Wrong.Vigilance mean your creature never taps to begin with so it isn't susceptible to effects that stop it from untapping.Reconnaissance is vulnerable to the effects.
>>98519017If you're right than that'a just mw not following. I guess I only started hearing about MLD this year so I figured it was an update. Maybe it was just defined better in a later update and they deck trackers started using it, cause I swear it was only thing year or late last that harbinger of the seas turned my b2 monoblue deck into b4
>>98519045Best friends.I stopped using this deck after a few games cause it was way, way too oppressive against most decks.Still lost its first game to a WRG value engine that shit out creatures like mad.
>>98519103idgi the random common from tarkir i just posted does survive breach combo
>>98519102Nothing, monored is trash for removal.The option is win faster or draw chaos warp.
>>98519137Guess I was right
>>98519102no one cares what's mono green's non-damage based boardwipe? red doesn't even need creatures a lot of the time to win.
>>98519158Nothing. Hence why this statement was correct >>98519074
>>98518640I can understand and to a degree sympathize with your position. However, I could make an entire deck with nothing but alt arts that are official that could make a board as hard to read as any of my proxies. It is just an unreasonable expectation that everyone should use default prints because they are easy for you to read.
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>>98519169It may be unreasonable but I'm still going to call you a faggot for not doing it
>>98519176doesnt kill creatures greens got plenty of artifact/ench wipes
>>98519131I wanted to make my first BW deck focused around that exact card but first I've gotta play this asshole for a while until my friend learns about why tryharding is dumb.
>>98519208this guy needs partner with cheville
>>98519211They'll probably go Abzan when they finally decide to expand on bounty cards. I looked them up to see if there was anything special to go with the ass creed guy but no, there's literally only six cards that name bounty counters.
>>98519219yes they're all WBR except my poor hairy boi
>>98519208It aint valid until you get the version with bounty county counters
>>98519045squall.dec either wins handedly or can't get off the ground thanks to edicts and there's no middle ground
>>98513998Only good equipment ever printed btw.
>>98519223The what now? I just happened to own this guy, I've only ever opened one Assassin's Creed pack one Christmas ago and it happens that right now it's the perfect counter to kicking my Voja friend's ass. I ain't seeking out some special misprint just to show off in a degenerate deck I don't want to exist in the first place.
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>>98519238I don't get it
>>98519238Yeah mine doesn't have that. That's pretty silly though I wonder how something to do with spelling can still happen in 20 fucking 24. Then again they also somehow still do frameshifts so who knows.
>>98519238oh I see it now, bounty county
>>98519222So is Bounty Board any good? Is it worth it running a 3 mana rock for the redundancy?
>>98519258I know some counters are weird and despite have the same name, aren't the same type so there might not be synergy here.
>heh, so if I just went out and bought The One Ring instead of proxying you'd be okay with it? seems you can't rid of the problem card>go ahead and buy it then>w-well... I'm not gonna spend $100 on a card!>seems we've solved the problem by banning proxies then
>>98519208I had a deck around this feller, trying to be a Voltron control deck but it was very hit or miss. It’s a hard counter for pillow fort decks but most pillow fort decks still have a dozen ways to make themselves huge so it doesn’t even do well there.https://archidekt.com/decks/22428747/i_make_my_own_luck_archiveI’m not sure what you could do to give it more staying power aside from more stax or instead of Voltron pieces do token gen.
>>98519280As long as the counter is the correctly named counter, all cards that interact with it react in the same way. There's no real room for confusion in there. Obviously yes this would, "not work", with Mathas very well because his ability only interacts with bounty counters that he places the effect onto, but that does not make them not still bounty counters. Chevill and Shay are both perfectly able to use bounty counters from any source to make their effect go off, as does this artifact.
>>98519301>I go out and buy a chang proxy for 1 dollar>"Yeah, I got a bonus at work so I bought a real one."Now what?
>>98519320Acceptable. You have to live with being Jewishly dishonest and tricking everyone around you like a troon. Deep down you know your card isn't real.
>>98519241It's a misprint.
>we only have one edhg for the first time in foreverUB clearly killing mtg.
>>98519330BASEDChud & Trad?>REAL CARDSTranny Status?>FAKE CARDSYOU WILL NEVER BE A REAL WOMAN AND YOU WILL NEVER EVERVEROWN A REAL BLACK LOTUS
>>98518769Can Mossborn Hydra kill someone T3? Because Green Queen can.
>>98519316This is a spite deck I just want to be able to consistently be able to kill a Voja by turn 3 desu, I was planning on filling my own deck with as many kill spells as possible alongside generic Vampire bulk, looks like I'm at 11 removal right now I'm gonna need more. Then some classic mono black goodstuff sprinkled in, Sheoldred, Damnation, Crypt Ghast, etc maybe Grave Betrayal since I'm running so much removal. The guy seems really good at being a problem solver to hold onto in the back pocket but idk if I'd wanna go voltron with an effect like this, unless I was doing something to draw and reset the graveyard often.Ok first off, based for running Moon Mirror Shield. Yeah Hex seems pretty great I'm picking up one of those as well, same with some of those Repartee creatures. Oh man Cauldron of Souls, that's genius. I would say if you're having trouble with Pillow Fort to run stuff like Farewell and Planar Cleansing, but then you're also potentially eating into your own equipment's setup, which is hard when you're all in like this. For more staying power you should be running some boots if those swords aren't doing enough, and of course Darksteel Plate is a must. Knight Exemplar and Timely Ward are fun and all but a board wipe is still going to rape you unless you run it. If you're worried about not being wide enough slapping Indestructible onto pic related has always been a favored move in my own voltron deck.
>>98514198Shes pretty good.Can get her out really early. Landfall is piss easy to play. Green has alot of protection, ramp, draw and recursion. Green also has some powerful battle tricks that will knock players out quick with the doubling power.
>>98514198She's good and can be built to any power level. You can go full sweat mode with shit like Scale Up and kill someone turn three, or you can go a slower route with Bristly Bill effects since there are tons of "whenever land enters out counter on creature" and just cycle fetches with additional lands and recursion.
>>98519496I might have to revisit the deck idea, atm most of that old deck is sitting in a deck box sleeved up but I’ll have to redo the Voltron package. I ended up gutting it for upgrades to a dedicated equipment deck.https://archidekt.com/decks/24944657/me_and_my_fine_shytAlso in Shay, inversion behemoth and VATS go fucking crazy, those are definitely two cards you should look at getting.
>Crack this>Wonder how a wolf tribal deck would go?Why do I have such a boner for tribal? Think there will be a BG wolf commander deck when the hobbit decks drop?
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>>98519675the trigger double is whatever, this thing gets fucking massive so fucking fast what the hell.
goblinpill me
>>98519675Yeah. I need to buy one of him once I get paid.
>>98519685GET IN THE>>98519685NEW THREAD
>>98519692because we were so close to page 10
>>98519703Newfags think you need to worry about bump limits on /tg/ unironically, yes.
>>98519703It’s whatever, at least there isn’t any beastiality porn in the OP.
>>98519675Did The Hobbit not introduce any new battles?
>>98519725No. There will be some in the commander decks, but they got delayed
>>98519132Okay anyway I cast Dispel for its escape cost, damn seems you got outplayed ggs.
>>98519132That's not actually true because every card that requires sorcery speed in a Breach combo is protected by priority giving the caster an opportunity to move it out of the GY and onto the stack.
>>98518345Nope. I've even encountered more normiefags that are against proxying or are embarrassed by their proxying that they ask if it's alright than enfranchised players.
>>98519781i just kill the breach
