Ride or Die EditionPrevious: >>98525164>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: How dependent is your deck on your commander? How many removal spells before it absolutely folds?
>>98528962If you remove my commander you wasted a card that could have been spent on my incoming bomb. God I love playing 5c slop.
>TQMy Azula deck crumbles without her so yeah my deck is dependent on my commander
>>98528962I only play commanderslop
Round 1 the Miku player slaps down Sol Ring into Arcane signet into pic related. Your response?
TQ: Faldorn, and not that much since I tend to focus a bit on landfall and paradox on the 99, having more value from her makes things run smoother however.Gotta ask, how do you guys "rate" what removals to add? Specially low costed spells/single target and/or sweepers (in Gruul preferably)? Been having a hard time trying to add more given the "play until end of next turn" that impulse has
>>98529065Sperg about hybrid mana regardless of what his commander's color identity is.
Taking suggestions for blonde and/or black haired beauties to put as Commander>>98528962I usually build around the Commander so on something like Captain N'gathrod I have a few protection and recursion pieces but if he eats two boardwipes I'm just pivoting to something like Bruvac and going straight up mill combo instead of Horror shenanigans or trying to end the game with Living Death, Breach the Multiverse, or Rise of the Dark Realms instead, because fuck bringing him out of the CZ for 9
>>98528962>tq Let's see, one by one of my primary decks...>AvacynCan function without her with all the human hatebears; but my primary game plan is to get her out and start casting board wipes. But yeah, Avacyn herself is so expensive that three or four removals pretty much guarantees I'm out of that game.>DepalaCan function just fine without her, though she rarely eats removal since she hardly ever swings herself and just crews vehicles, activating her tap ability to refill my hand.>Necron deckI use Anrakyr the Traveler at the helm but I've kept the deck about 90% the precon so it has all the backup commanders in there and it's also just a mono-b artifacts deck so it can keep ticking just fine without him.>Ranar, the Ever-WatchfulIt's mostly a flicker deck that need Ranar out since he shits out spirits every time I flicker something. Airbending was a huge boon to the deck.>GrimgrinIt's a Grimmy the Timmy deck. I have hordes of zombies buy my gameplan is to send the big fat fatty in to punch you in the face. Usually do just fine recasting him two to three times. More than that and it's too expensive.>Erebos, God of the DeadDeck can function without him, since its mono-b punisher. But his static ability blocking life gain is pretty central. I can recast him a dozen times since it's so easy to make so much mana in B.>Edgar MarkovLike most Markov decks it can run just fine on Eminence but I do like to bring out Uncle Eddie and swing away with big vampires. Can only last a couple removals because he is expensive. .>KaaliaWhether or not it can function without her is determined by how early she gets hit. Early removal and the deck crumbles. If you wait too long, the deck is already churning and I've got a full board of fatties.>Ulrich of the KrallenhordeIt's Ulrich's Fight Club. I'm not even trying to win, I just want to fight your commander over and over.>ViviIt's Vivi, lol>YurikoGo ahead and remove her. I don't give a fuck.
>>98529076green queen
>>98529076Toph is the black haired queen
>>98529070Depending on your creature strat, something like scute swarm wouldn't really do any good with a Fight spell as a removal, but in big stomping dinos the fight that lets trample damage go through may be solid I try to have 6 as a baseline so it would he something like >Beast Within, Krosan Grip, Kenrith's Transformation>Chaos Warp, Blasphemous Act, Vandalblast
>>98529108Green and Blue are next, yes>>98529114Which one there are like four Tophs
>>98529142>>98529142>Which oneYes
>>98529076Emmara soul of the accord or any version of Sigarda for blonde.
If your deck doesn't fold when your commander gets removed you have a goodstuff slop pile
>>98529065My deck still didn't come it's stuck on shipped.
>>98529292correct
>>98528962All of my decks are dependant to at least a medium degree on the commander. I don't see any point in playing this format if the commander isn't important to the game plan. Of course that doesn't mean I can't win without my commander in most situations, the exceptions being Baru and Inferno, but having the commander out and alive significantly accelerates the game plan.
>>98528575I dont think they would have wanted or "missed" banning rhystic because I think thats exactly the kind of card they liked seeing be played. a garbage common unplayable in 60 card becoming one of the greatest blue cards ever in commander is 100% commander styleplus I think its why they rolled back old rules banning wrath of god (very early on) and other such cards that are exponentially better in multiplayer games. they wanted commander to become its own thing completely (which it really is)still feels strange being able to put Coalition Victory in a 5c deck though
>>98529292If I already cast the Explosive Vegetation then she can sit the rest of the game out
>>98529334wraths should be banned in bracket 1 tbdesu
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98529395Explain the math behind this
>>98528962>TQ: How dependent is your deck on your commander? How many removal spells before it absolutely folds?Like... fucking all of them fold on the spot. Other than my "win the game" tribal deck which is supposed to rely on any of the 20 or so cards that win the game on the spot. Zombie deck has ways of making more without the commander but the deck is built around saccing/killing off Hildibrand Manderville over and over and keep bringing him back to keep killing him off
TQ: my main decks:1. RUB Thraximundar, Br4: he controls the board and wins through ultra violence. 100% essential. only like 4 other creatures in the deck to win with LT commander: VIVI ORNITIER2. W/B Squall Seed Mercenary, Br3: not really at all necessary. Its tribal knights making mass copies of Knight Exemplar and exalted knightsLT Commander: foil book art Gleaming Splendor3. MONO G TOSKI, Br2: its equipment Voltron with the Toski boiiii. definitely need him. although you could turn Birds of Paradise or Bugenhagen into a big beasty Voltron, it wouldn't be as well-protected. LT CDR: Mistcutter Hydra4. GUB Indominus Rex, Alpha, Br2: Pitches keyword soup creatures to graveyard. Alt-win con is RISE OF THE DARK REALMS and it's pretty effective. Need to add Concordant Crossroads to the deck to make it even better. There's some other big beasties in the deck that could close out the game. LT CDR: we wuz KRANG UTROM WARLORDs n sheeeit5. 5c GARTH, One-Eye, Br3: Lots of alt win-cons. My favorite is individually Door to Nothingness-ing each opponent individually, bringing it back from GY and repeating. Coalition Victory (weird that its EDH legal) also in as an easy win. With various enchantments it's possible to win this way without Garth but using his Lotus (Lotusi?) really greatly helps. The 3rd & 4th alt-win cons really need him for blinking, as you use infinite Black Lotuses to deck out everyone. I was considering adding Lab Man to do it to myself because I still remember when he dropped in Innistrad thinking it was the funniest and dumbest card but would be hilarious to win that way (after numerous Worldwake Jace losses the previous year or 2 in casual legacy and/or kitchen table games). LT CDR: Displacer Kittenno. 7 new brew is Smaug the Impenetrable RB. its built as a bracket 3 but really probably is more like a bracket 4. 1000% needs him for the pestilence or other loops
>>98529395>>98529419no need, this has been debunked>>98529343I should have added, that this was from the July 1996 edition of the Duelist magazine
>>98529430forgot to add that the 3rd and 4th win con's are decking people out with brain geyser after he makes 90 black lotuses. or yourself with lab man
>>98529298I'm just making my own because I just bought it to speculate on and the deck itself was shitty anyways.
lab man :)
>keep trying to think of cool uses for her>keep realizing she's shit and morph just does her job but fucking betterI briefly thought i could run blood moon to take advantage of her rule break limiting me to basic land cards then remembered I am fucking retarded and it's only angels I can color bend so it's back to square one with her
>>98529536every single rulebreaker commando is subpar
HOW THE FUCK IS STORMTIDE LEVIATHAN + ARCHETYPE OF IMAGINATION A TWO CARD COMBO
>>98529536It's almost like those cards were designed for flavor first instead of sucking your tryhard cock.
>>98529549softlocks your opponents
>>98529549>creatures cant attack you without islandwalkThat's literally it
>>98529556So? Combat isn't the only way to win the game.
>>98529562but it is two cards used in combination
>>98529556KILL EITHER OF THEN HOW IN THE FUCK IS THAG SUPPOSED TO BE BANNED IN B2 WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE FAGGOTS AAAAAAAAAAAA
>>98529568Combo implies you explicitly win with them. You still lose to mill and infect and any exodia type effect with this out, and your opponent is still fully capable of blocking with Reach creatures.
IS GHOSTLY PRISON A ONE CARD COMBO IF OPPONENTS REFUSE TO PAY??? FUCK THESE SHITTTERRRSSSS
>>98529549Just cast a Propaganda and none of your opponents can ever hit you
>>98529571>>98529581I think you're playing with pansies who use bad decks anon
>>98529587No, this is a Test.
The discourse around yshtola is ridiculous. Every conversation is started with>no no no, it has nothing to do with her being a cute catgirl. Stop talking about that.Why are all the "content creators" so deadset on hammering that point?
>>98529605Not at all a fan of the show your are copying the art of, but appreciate the work regardless.
>>98528962>TQ: How dependent is your deck on your commander? How many removal spells before it absolutely folds?The one I'm currently working on is significantly better when it's commander is alive and you've had a chance to draw a lot of cards. It can function without him but my other threats don't have shroud/hexproof. That being said the other threats that can win. As a shroud creature it's more board wipes that screw him.
>>98529538intentionally so I thinkexcept whtz
In Golgari colors: What are the best carriers for a copious amount of +1/+1 counters? I'm putting together a team. starting with this guy and hit-monkey.
I am disappointed none of the Rule breaker other than the meme actually did anything cool. I was hoping and preying for a Rulebreaker: Wish board or Rulebreaker: Non combat damage dealt by this creature is commander damage.
>>98529655Id like to see some commanders with eminence, “you can’t win the game unless…”
>>98529605Your to young to post here.
>Guy walks up to the table with a fully proxied ur-dragon deck>This is not an assumption. They are custom obvious proxies>Asks if we have room>Tell him yes, and ask him what power the deck is>"I don't bother with that stuff. Just as long as its not CEDH">Assume, since its a proxied Ur-dragon it will be a 4>He plays a turn 1 Taiga, so I probably am right.>I manage to get a turn 2 smothering out after a turn 1 sol ring>Turn 3 I play trouble in pairs>Guy goes absolutely apeshit about how retarded and broken my deck is>Turn or so later he says I'm going to regret making all of those treasures and plays the new smaug. >Every turn from then on he just keeps saying things like "Ah yeah, treasure so good, am I right?! haha 100 treasures a turn after turn 2! Treasure are skill amirite?">At some point during all this he played his own tithe and rhystic.>He eventually scoops when I copy his overloaded cyc rift with return the favor.Rarely does the LGS give me a headache but this time it did.
>>98529674Even if I was literally a 1 year old baby back when I first saw that show, you'd probably be wrong.
>>98529655>Rulebreaker: Non combat damage dealt by this creature is commander damage.God, this on Ghyrson Starn with a board full of pingers sounds like fucking BLISS
>>98529694This is a fabrication.
>>98529709Everything is a fabrication, even you.
>>98529709Outside my mind, nothing is real.
>>98529703I don't doubt your an adult but you are too young to post here. I'm literally old enough to be your grandfather.
>>98529732Since when did this place turn into a VFW?
>>9852973819ought.Now get off my lawn.
>>98529555Try hard? Nigger I HAVE a flavor deck with all the Innstrand angels in it and I had to do a huge amount of mana fixing with multi color lands to even get that reasonably functional and you're telling me now to do it with just basics with no real positive upside from the commander, are you out of your Goddamn mind calling me a try hard with this shit? Miss me, gay boy
>>98529653skullbriarpredator ooze, vashta nerada, lumberknot, wildgrowth archaic/warden of the grove, champion of lambholt
>>98529694He’s literally me
>>98529749That's a gun caliber you retard.
>>98529549>>98529556wow thats a fun looking combo. and neigh unplayable. guess this needs to be in a simic or GUB deck, reanimate the leviathan, fauna shaman the other one. but who would be a good commander for it? this genuinely has activated my almondsplus bonus for the island walk shit. when I started around m10 (OG zendikar block) they were already saying land walk stuff was old and being phased out. yet they still printed stuff with landwalk abilities. now you never see it>pic related comes to mind for flavor, but really green blue black would be ideal. any ideas?
>>98529754You think you are obliged to use dual color cards even though your commander is for casual play, yes you are the very definition of tryhard.
>>98529754Take the blackpill. Spend $0.30 on the only commander you'll ever need and you can build any deck you want with no chokepoints.
>>98529607What discourse even?
>>98529795The discourse I made up in my mind. It was real to me.
>>98529773You're actually honest to God retarded. When I can't even play shit like tap lands or even a command tower to help correct mana in a fair and reasonable way to where i could use the card's gimmick effectivity, that's not try harding that's wanting the commander of a deck to function at a base fucking level
>>98529816You can use Command Tower though, it's just only going to produce white. :)
>>98529816Use ramp. Use mana filters. Use more generic mana cost cards. Oh, they're not powerful enough for you? Sounds like you're whining like a tryhard that this purposefully jank card isn't strong enough for you.
>>98529776Welcome back Golos
>>98529754The fact you can run all the basics does not mean you have to run just basics. Fetches have no color identity and can collect your basics no problem. This is a valid landbase for Seluma.
>>98529903Uh, ignore the command tower I spaced out.
>playing a regular ass reanimator deck>no game changers or combos>I didn't even draw any of my ramp, I just curved out into my discard outlet + revive spells >guy across from me throws a hissyfit and says my deck is too powerful and pubstompingThere's no pleasing these cunts
>>98529694
uh oh, stinky!
>>98529911>Play Legacy cards that give infinite manacheat for 2 mana>wtf why did my opponents get mad
>>98529911It depends what you're reanimating. I had some guy Sol Ring Dark Ritual turbo out a turn 3 Breach the Multiverse which I Commandeered. I reanimated the caster's own Valgavoth and won within turns. The table was mad at ME for using the card when it was the guy's fucking creature.
>>98529930BREATHE IT IN
>>98529957I've had that happen at my table before someone discarded valgavoth immediately reanimated by another guy. I thought it was good.
>>98529930This sounds like the perfect "damage over time" commander. Just put in all the colorless trigger-doublers and put odor counters on every creature on the battlefield. I need to find all the Stab Wound shit in black and just sit back and let er rip
>>98530000the problem is the creatures are still on the field and can in fact, do damage to you. Not even the fact that the floor is putting one counter on one creature each of you turns. IT also targets, so random ward or hexproof shit will block a counter being put on something, then you have the fact a boardwipe sets you back anyway.
I tried to play with this today in two different decks.I had a bad time. Absolute lighting rod. Got it to connect once in 4 games. Every other game it was just everyone playing removal instantly, didn't even get to equip it.
>>98530000Checked, I really like Obeka for the DOT idea myself, just stocking a bunch of upkeep damage effects and getting a couple really good hits off with her to proc em
>>98529931It's okay to admit your deck sucks anon if it can't handle some early big bodies
>>98530060>create a bazillion treasures lolyeah smol beaning is a real strat; don't bring too much attention to yourself if you can help it, play more lowkey cards
>>98530060Goes great in my Slivers deck! Too bad I have an ironclad no UB rule lmao
>>98529911>living death into my entire toolboxno hard feelings kiddo
>>98530107Kind of hard to small bean with goblins.
>>98529959>>98530000yeah its gone be funnnnnn to build dis boiiineed to do a universe within alternate title like they do for SLD UB shit and call this "Waft the scent"
>>98529076
>>98529090re: avacyn, need to make Sur you have command beacon & some graveyard recall spells. this is good for lands:this spell is also just sun titan without the body (so cheaper)
cedh tournament near me is using these rules to determine wins. they also have bracket 2, 3 and 4 tables (ie 0 "game changers", up to 3, or infinite)partner commanders and backgrounds are not allowed, thassa and underworld breach are pre-banned and you have to cast your commander at least once. even if you scored points in other ways and knocked everyone else out (or "won the game"...by the way you just lost the game) you can't win if you didn't cast your commander once. thoughts??
>>98530253>anything besides killing your opponents
>>98530253incredibly gay
>>98530253>infinite mana combo>infinite mana combo>kinda based actually>infinite mana combo with any commander with {X} in the mana costpretty lame overall, senpai
>>98530253I'm not against scoring based on kills rather than wins. It encourages active play and discourages durdling and smol bean behavior and it fucks thoracle fags. Deathmatch is the most honored of FPS modes, no reason it can't work for card games.
>>98530304you could disenchant the staff of domination. or strip mine the Gaea's cradle (proxy of course)
>>98530253I mean, if these are alternate prizes to win aside from the winner who beats everyone, that's fine. It's like having a "best painted" or "best sportsman" award at a 40k tournament. Adds more fun conditions and doesn't take away from the person who actually wins the games.
>>98530318no you need to read it again. just because you're the last man standing doesn't mean you "won the game". although you probably will win the game if you got points in other ways, ie, if you won you likely dealt the most commander damage
>>98528962He's a big engine with Vending Machine and a sac outlet, but I run enough token generators and recursion to find another way without him.Now, Stony Silence and the like are the way to shut me down completely. Most of my deck runs off of artifact abilities.
>>98530347great candidate for this cedh tournament where thassa & underworld are banned and you must cast your CDR once. can toski win it??
>>98529655All in all a very boring and safe set of cards that basically will get zero play. And people wonder why the Goth Queen is dominating the player base's love.
>>98530373>And people wonder why the Goth Queen is dominating the player base's love.The ever growing trans playerbase is the answer to that "mystery"
>>98530373>And people wonder why the Goth Queen is dominating the player base's love.>EDHREC doesn't matter>Except when we are winning.
how often do you guys see this in your pods and thoughts on it??
>>98530060That's good though. It's a winmore card that gives you huge value if it gets to stay on the board and eats up removal letting you play more vital cards. Every deck should have some lightning rods to trick Timmies.
>>98530383Once. And he took it out of his deck after a goblin deck memed on him for playing it.
>>98530377Imagine being so stupid you're stil paying for and playing a game where the company who makes it openly hates you and your politics and so does the majority of the playerbase. It's like saying you hate gays yet you voluntarily move to San Francisco and spend your days hanging out at pride parades and male bathouses. You need to sit down and have an honest conversation with yourself Anon, because you're either a deeply closeted femboy or genuinely stupid.
>>98530412>either a deeply closeted femboy or genuinely stupid.Why can't he be both?
This card is a design mistake.
>>98530444I don't like to make too many assumptions so I give some benefit of the doubt.
>>98530253>cedh>thassa and underworld breach are pre-bannedmight as well be rule zero
>>98530007The key is making sure they mostly have the creatures you give them.
>>98530412if trannies can complain every day that the western world is le evil empire but never leave i don't see the issue why chuds play a card game made by people in renton wa.you tranny.
>>98530392oh thats hilarious. I was trying to think of what decks would actually benefit from it. a gruuuul (isnt that another name for pussy juice? what the hell?) i.e., red green goblins & elves deck with this could be FIRE need a draw engine though
>>98530454>>98530481exactly why it and. thassa are banned in this upcoming COMMANDER tournamentbecause its for playing COMMANDER not blackjack with magic cards
>>98530524>because its for playing COMMANDER not blackjack with magic cardsthen you wouldn't be playing cedh in the first placeadmit it you still want all the broken GC shit and everything else in cedh like doomsday piles and cradle combos, just not the ones you hate while still having the pretense of 'a casual format'
>>98530253>backgrounds are not allowedAbsolute fucking faggots.
>>98530253Alright so does the LGS owner play Najeela or Kenrith?
Is this a bit against the "spirit" of Bracket 3?>dude has Krark's Thumb and the thing that lets you proliferate on casting a spell>casts Ral Zarek and a few cantrips and ults with him immediately >flips 10 coins and picks 4 heads, taking 4 extra turns >we say bruh no chaining>he says it's fair because it was RNG What's the verdict anons. He did end up winning immediately and switch to a different deck after this.
>>98530816>Hello I am playing bracket 3 and my opponent did a combo to win the gameThe fact he didn't just do the normal thing and wheel you with Smothering Tithe should be applauded.
>>98530816>we say bruh no chaininggavin never bothered to define 'chaining extra turns' so ral player is a-ok, extra turns almost always go infinite anywaywhat you should've done is impose a limit where you can only go infinite or alt wincon on turn X, which in b3 would be t7
>>98530816Chaining extra turns is literally banned in b3
>>98530853>you got three extra combats? sure whatever>wait did you just cast time stretch? what the hell
>>98530758kenrith has not been claimed yet no>>98530644backgrounds (like partners) are not commander. commander = 1 legendary CREATURE in the command zone. hope this helps>>98530549there is a difference between high power strategic competitive commander and turbo combo slop. if you cant tell the difference then maybe this tourney isnt for youalso "GCs" are not official. rules its beta testing and it changes every 6 months. wrath of god was considered broken in commander 20 years ago. (big difference is they were playing commander, not racing to combo sloppa with multiple commanders to get as many colors as possible)–hope this helps!>>98530853this has been debunked
>>98530868It's an old boogeyman that propagated downward from cEDH Jhoira where casual players just started cramming extra turn cards into their deck with no real wincon so it ended up wasting a fuckton of time without actually winning (Izzet special). If someone has a win clearly visible from their first extra turn it's not a problem though imo.
>>98530874>Commander is not comboslop>That's why we made a ruleset where the best 2 commanders will be Najeela and KenrithYou can just say you don't play the game anon.
>>98530874>>98530758and I make a note of saying Ken griffy, returned kang has not been claimed because only one person can play any given commander in the tournament>i.e. you sign up and register your commander. if its already picked you have to use a different one in your power division (or "bracket"/"game changer" allotment)I'm thinking you'll see a lot more cedh tournaments like this!
>>98530887>First person to sign up winsLARP
>>98529903Exotic and Forbidden Orchard have gotta be worth a slot in here
>>98530879>It's an old boogeymancorrect, that's why i laugh whenever gavin talks about the committee he surrounds himself with, who are really no better than anons itt (looking at you rachel)MLD and chaining extra turns really boil down to durdling and if you can solve the issue of gimping your own lands you solve the MLD problemsimilarly if you just have impactful plays with a time stretch that the game ends immediately or go infinite turns everyone knows it and you prevent the durdling automatically, 99% of all extra turn bs is about wasting people's time being autistic announcing phases and steps while fiddling around with counters and shit that's why paradox engine got banned too
>>98530874>wrath of god was considered broken in commander 20 years agoi like how you say this with a straight face and yet you'll froth at the mouth when cromat anon reminds you again of how busted hermit druid combo was back in the day and it was still considered normal
>>98530874>>>98530853>this has been debunkedSource?
>>98530905>wtf did you just smoke two cigarettes? i dont care if you only smoke two a day i'm sending you to nicotine anonymous you chain smoker addict
>>98529772GUB commanders are all pretty interchangable but this is a reanimate in the zone and can still attack if you only have Stormtide Leviathan out.
>>98530894MLD is a bit of a similar case imo where in theory it's an Avacyn wincon but in practice, especially today, the average Avacyn player can't play the game for shit so they just waste everyone's time playing boardwipe tribal and running out of cards in their hand before they get to 8 lands because they forgot they need to run cards that do something useful. Very miserable play pattern and I wouldn't say MLD is something many people are pining to bring back for one deck or so you can sometimes randomly win the game resolving Ruination (or Blood Moon by the new definition).I say this as someone that thinks there probably should be some sort of standardized version of Blood Moon that's slightly softer and Gavin just tells everyone to suck it up on. Probably a colorless artifact that lets everyone pick the type of their lands when it enters. Still very crippling to decks that need a very diverse manabase but not as much of an instant total lockout which is what most people don't want in modern cards.
>>98530893They are, I rolled through the options really fast. Cut Command Tower for one or both. Multiversal Passage is also an option as well as Horizon of Progress.
>>98530910>source: my assGotcha
>>98530915please do get gavin's definition of 'chaining extra turns' btw, because you won't find itretard
>>98530928"chaining extra turns" is as self-explanatory as it gets unless you are an ESL tard
>>98529655Really I would of killed for just pic rel except I can use any of the face-down cards in the game.
>>98530935>>98530910that's two times you're being a retard, so off to the sanitarium you go
What the fuck happened?
>>98530935Is time stretch chaining?
>>98530956trust me the fag wotc art director could've made nivea a lot uglier
>>98530960This is what bother me the most. I get it, you can't have stripper outfits anymore, no matter how tame, but what the fuck happened to her tits? This practically is a mans chest. There is zero definition.
>>98530966there's been a bias for a long time now anon
>>98530836It was his Turn 6/our Turn 5 as he went first so I think it's technically allowed? Since he killed us all on his Turn 8. We didn't get to play anything in between but it's whatever at that point
>>98530982>It was his Turn 6/our Turn 5 as he went first so I think it's technically allowed? Since he killed us all on his Turn 8.his t7+ meaning everyone else gets a turn 6 at leastputting limits on infinites/thoracles is the fairest interpretation to not have everyone suddenly lose while at the same time still allowing voltron to kill one player at a time earlier
>>98530982He was correct. Ral is not a chaining extra turns spell. Sounds like you guys attempted to angleshoot to steal a win.
>>98530956Honestly there's a lot of little details here that make the new art kinda nice. She's got her gloves tucked into her belt and while the art is simpler and more impressionist, it's got a warm character and she's got a cute, even flirty expression.The boobs are an unfortunate casualty, equal parts more sensible fit for armor and the death of the classic fantasy babe bod. It would be less annoying if I for a moment took that bare armpit as a coincidence and not as a consolation prize unfortunately not aimed at the general audience. We also miss out on the trim and texture of her old robes, which makes the art feel a little unfinished.No idea what's up with the grape purple hair. It doesn't look bad, but it is a jarring change.
Turned my Muxus goblins deck in to rakdos The Great Goblin and I think it's safe to say this guy is the new GOAT goblin commander. Also, rakdos goblins is way more fun than mono red gobs. The hobbit set overall was kind of lame but atleast it had a few bangers
>>98531014>No idea what's up with the grape purple hairakroma has purple hair so the art director thought it would be cool for nivea to have purple hair too
>>98530966WotC troons love masectomies
>>98531022I figured that might be the case; I'll leave the Watsonian 'why' for others to speculate if the Doylist 'why' is solved.
>>98529076>Taking suggestions for blonde and/or black haired beauties to put as CommanderWe all know there's only one answer here
>>98529694And where does the local rogsi player come into this fanciful little yarn of yours?
>my only strong decks are mono colorFeels weird.
>>98531008So taking 4 in a row is okay as long as either>it doesn't happen twice>the game endsLegit question its the first time someone's gotten more than one off of a spell resolving for us. We usually just run the one and dones if at all.>>98531022Speaking of Akroma who's the best to pair her with as Partner? Or do I just be different and run her solo
Oh, she's the queenWe're all expected to kiss the ringSitting on her throneLaughing 'bout how she made it her home
>>98531276rograkh + akroma vision of ixidor
>>98529856he cute
>>98531276>Speaking of Akroma who's the best to pair her with as Partner? Or do I just be different and run her solo
>>98531276gavin never defined chaining extra turns so it doesn't matter, it's not an issue worth arguing about because extra turns are just a stone's throw away from going infinite anyway and even value turns 95% of the time get into a definitive win
>>98531276As long as it is on the same card, actually. For instance: Time stretch is not chaining extra turns even though it gives you 2. And Ral isn't even something you can guarantee, so you are basically saying Ral is a bracket 4 card OR you aren't allowed to use Ral's ult, OR you just lose if you end up getting heads more than once.
>>98531281I only see this lil goblin guy in like CEDH deck lists. Is the goal to keyword him up and make him suddenly a 20 damage threat with Akroma's soup anthem?
>>98531313>Is the goal to keyword him up and make him suddenly a 20 damage threat with Akroma's soup anthem?yes
>>98531313>lil goblin guyRog is a kobald you noob>>98531278Green GOAT
>>98531326SORRY I DONT USE THE CARD AND HE LOOKED LIKE A GOBLIN
>>98531034>>98531278idk why all tifa posts are so intensely trans-coded even by UB fan standards. They call her "wife" but they're giving "I want to be her" energy...
>>98531380It's because your are obsessed
>>98529765wow, great work anon. thanks!
>>98531383I am not obsessed with trannies, gaybolasfag.
>>98531380It is morally correct to cast any removal you draw on final fantasy women. They all deserve it.
>>98531517anon you can't post that
>>98531517god DAYM what a promotion
>>98530966The funniest thing about wotc removing all the boobs is it's actual lesbian erasure. Like they can't comprehend the female gay gaze
what the fuck was wotc's though process when they decided to turn Miku into a futanari that populates with tokens?
>>98529076seconding Thalia as the premiere blonde of mtg.
>0.05% inclusion in Syr KonradI'm not an expert but that seems slightly underrated to me
>>98531606As a lover of dickgirls, I'm not seeing it.
>>98531697I might want that card
>>98531697It's one of a few cards that requires you to keep yoir gravyard in order, which is a pain.
>>98531751she populates tokens which means she gets them pregnant just like offspring does
>>98531758indeed, which is the scryfall tangent I was on when I found it, lol.speaking of which, picrel seems really good in any deck that can make it unblockable. its top commanders are Jin Sakai, Kamiz, and MacCready, so that checks out, but it only has like 1% inclusion in any of them. one stolen creature per turn cycle is a pretty premium rate for a 3 drop, even if you don't have much control over what you're getting, so I still think it's being slept on and wonder if there isn't any other home I'm not thinking of. (this one is way more annoying than the Necratog because it requires everyone *else* to track their graveyard order.) also, sweet art.
>>98531979I also found picrel which is a slam dunk if you build Teval as a zombies commander (which is like the 11th most popular way of building him lol), or in a Tormod deck, and also makes a great target for Ghoulcaller Gisa.idk man I just enjoy looking for glup shittos in old sets and abandoned mechanics
>>98531997mainstay of my zombie deck back in the day
Frankie Peanuts. go to local LGS and drop into brand new squad never played with before. What are you asking them anon?
>>98532029Banking login info. Not gonna answer? Okay you're disqualified.
>>98532042>yes or no question
>>98532057In my defense, I'm retarded
>>98531999I was gonna say, what do you mean "found", this guy was the shitThen I realized I'm an old piece of shit
>>98532042That's not a yes-or-no question. >>98532029"Are you playing with the intent of pubstomping?" should let you catch non-chill dudes
>>985320630.01% inclusion... Zul Ashur has 100 times as much rep at the same cmc... ghoul is obscure now, unc...
>>98528962>TQMy personal favorite deck has something like half a dozen hidden commanders (Gix, Kirrik, Volrath, Crovax, Endrekh Sahr, Drivnod, Tevesh Szat) that all kind of synergize with the majority of the deck so it's not the end of the world even if most of the deck is built around his particular value engine.
>>98530956Is it wrong that I like both artworks for different reasons? There are different aesthetic things to appreciate about each, even if I understand your concern with a larger trend.
>>98532057will you tell me your banking info before my next draw phase? not gonna abide by that answer? dqd
>>98531697this is a much better use of your graveyard creatures. and he only costs 50¢ MAX>>98530905its an old rule for various local playgroups that only one person in your area could have any given Legend for your general>>98530912I've been wanting to use one of the versions of Sin. this one I just don't like the random nature of it. but I appreciate the suggestion I will consider using it to build around because I honestly have no cluemy only other GUB commander is indo rex, alpha
>>98531697>>98532205sorry meant to do 2 different posts. THIS guy is a better use for GY crits(I use him to pump up indo rex)
>>98532029do you like penis?
>>98532269yes
>>98532201>will you tell me your banking info before my next draw phase?ummm... "no", I guess?
>>98532318you play commander so the answer was obvious
>>98531380You're projecting your troonism on to others. It's normal for males to talk about hot girls. For some reason, you think this means the anons want to be the hot girl. You're a troon, Harry.
>>98531463You are a tranny.
>>98532207he definitely gets more value, and don't get me wrong he's a great card and they go in a lot of decks. but Scavenge costs mana, and can't be done at instant speed, which matters a lot for combos. the Atog (and the extremely similar card from the same set, Zombie Scavengers) can do stuff like draw up to 4 cards per cycle with Teval's Judgment or Fang, Fearless L'Cie on the board, at the price of zero mana.They're both 3 mana creatures with manaless, no-tap, instant speed "leaves the graveyard" outlets, and the only other cards I managed to find that fit that particular description were Woodwraith Strangler, at 4 mana, and Necropolis, at 5 mana. They all share the unfortunate distinction of only working with creature cards, which sort of sucks.
>>98528962>TQHe's pretty good but not necessary. The whole point of the deck is to be a cheats deck that doesn't hardcast creatures but I got ways of doing it that aren't 1 mana spell cascade into Hypergenesis. Situations do arise where I suspect I will be hoisted by my own petard if I do the Hypergenesis thing, so I have to have backup plans.
>>98532460Having written that though. Woodwraith Strangler does combo with Insidious Roots... hmm...
>>98529065I'm ready to have fun with Miku
>>98530956>>98530966got you fren
>>98528962TQ>Rakdos, Lord of RiotsThe only reason I can afford most of the creatures in the deck is him, but once I have a decent board out, he's mainly just another big stick. Depends on if I'm going for the ancestral statue infinite etbs or not. Pretty much any removal becomes a pain in the ass though because of his special summoning condition>Ardbert, Warrior of DarknessIf he gets removed early it can be a pain to get the deck going, otherwise he's just the scariest legend with 12 +1/+1 counters on him because of commander damage>Baral, Chief of Compliance Lol. Lmao. >Lyse HextVoltron deck so I expect removal and try to have some counterspells in hand. I wanted the deck to be a lower power deck though but the card is inherently threatening, which just means I made a commander that needs to be dealt with turn 4 but can't hang with the threat it generates.
>>98532549i approve of this proxy
>>98528962>TQI ONLY make decks that crumble without the commander, the only one I made that doesn't is Oloro and that one I barely use anymore
>>98530377Maybe you're lost but this is a thread for discussing commander not for discussing your sexual fixation on trannies >>98531019I feel Hobbit did way more for most deck's 99 in general more so than giving new commanders outside of the supplemental stuff
>>98532549>AI slop
>>98529694I actually had a full proxied ur dragon player in my pod the other day too, he’s a bit on the slower side so I didn’t mind it initially but it kind of became laughable when he didn’t know what he could look for off of a “pay 1 life” fetch land, that’s sort of when I could determine without a doubt that he had ripped the deck wholesale off of the internet somewhere. Funnily enough I would make jokes about this sort of thing to ragebait people so it was surreal to actually see it happen and be on the receiving end.
>>98532588we love proxies for human talent here
>>98532588as if the fags printing the cards are any better
>>98532606No we don't.We have one retarded sperg who does.
>>98532613>please allow my fake cards as proxy for my wealth>no i will not allow your fake art as proxy for your talentlmao
>>98532329FUCK he saw the out
>>98532619I’ve never seen this argument used against an anti-AI larper before, disgustingly efficient feltening.
>>98532642Epic samefag, casinobro!
>>98532658Trans people love AI therefore AI is good didn’t you know this?
>>98532668fun fact: all furries 100% hate ai so it's an easy way to out them lol
>>98532596My friend does this and with all real cards. It's not much fun to watch him spend 10 minutes a turn reading all his cards whilst beta-testing new combo decks on us.
>>98532677That checks out, if AI became widely accepted it would give some validity to their buyers remorse on all of the furry brap diaper cp they commissioned other furries to draw for them. An heroes in the tech industry would skyrocket overnight.
Mage’s Contest + Mindslaver is a Bracket 4+ early game combo.
>>98532701Speaking of Mindslaver, if I dont see any good plays to enhance my own board with other people's hands what's there to do, just sort of tap all their lands and pass?
>>98532642>it's realayy lmao
>>98532723Ya and swing out
>>98532723You waste their resources and run their creatures into unfavorable combat situations. What else is there to do with Mindslaver?
I have a time themed deck, and instead of running more extra turns, I'm adding just time shenanigans like whirlpool effects. Is this guy overpowered? We you let me run him in the 99
>>98532775I feel like he doesn't add enough to the game to justify breaking the rules just to add him to a deck.
>>98532787yeah, I agree. in the end he's just a powered up, 4 mana version of a card that's probably already in the deck.>>98532775just run Midnight Clock.
the more wotc prints conjure on paper the more i just want them to legalize wishboards to get it over with + normalize wishes too
>>98532831>the more wotc prints this illegal mechanic that has nothing to do with wishes, the more I want wotc to legalize this broken game-ruining mechanic that would make the format worseHow about uhhhkill yourself
>>98532840>conjure and wishes are super broken guys!proof next thread?
>>98532831do you know what the acorn stamp means?
>>98532588We need more people using AI to make proxy.I love watching the seethe
>>98532868yeah and they should make gold border legal too
>>98532856I didn't say conjure is broken. I said wish is broken.
>>98532888No one is going to care if you use a gold border card.
>>98530956>What the fuck happened?Americans
>>98532890>did you just living wish for whiptongue hydra to snipe my dragons? fuck so broken!
>>98532927nta but you're never going to be able to demonstrate that wish isn't broken by listing a million non-broken ways to use wish
>>98532897i don't see gold border being legal anonprotip: all casual commander is constructed play
>>98531697If I'm going to pay 3 mana for some graveyard horseshit I'd rather use something like Footbottom Feast to get them coming and going. This is the real spice.
>>98532937>did you just living wish for oboro breezecaller to combo off with cradle?>yeah>um ok but why didn't you just put oboro breezecaller in your maindeck instead of your wishboard so you could have the chance to naturally draw it>i dunno this is supposed to be broken or somethingreally your only concern boils down to wishboards somehow bypassing 1-of restriction in edh and i'm enough of a gambling man to say that will not happen
>>98531380
>>98532941erm actually I've done casual commander draft before at my friend's house which is not limited play not constructed play
>>98530956I actually like both arts though I think that the right arm on the new one looks weird and obviously the smaller bust and 0 cleavage is unfortunate.I'm reminded of Death of the Endless (from the comic Sandman) or other cute goth chicks.>>98532549Expression looks bad. Just use inpainting on the actual bust rather than a full img2img conversion.
>>98532915>he seethed, from an american website in a thread about an american game
>>98532981Who owns 4chan again? I forget
>>98532957>Just use inpainting on the actual bust rather than a full img2img conversion.Turn the strength down another .2. Tell it to do traditional painting instead of generic chatgpt image gen style, too.
>>98529705The first Kambal comes to mind
>>98532984by that logic google is an irish company. face it, we own you with our culture even if some nip buys the site and all you can do is seethe impotently at us.
>>98533014>by that logic google is an irish company
damn i didn't know africans were sending rockets to space holy wakanda
>>98528962> TQ> Liliana tribaldon't need the commander, but she's an extra discard outlet so she's nice to have.> Ur-DragonI mean, I don't have to cast him, but the deck does need him to he present.> BriselaEntire deck is built around the Meld. I can beat face with big angels without her, but it's a lot harder when I don't have the option to win through ckmmander damage.
This is a really niche and retarded question but say i have a creature exiled with Eater of Virtue that had, hexproof, let's say, and then somebody or myself used pull from eternity targeting the card that gave hexproof, would eater of virtue still retain the hexproof granting? On one hand it was a card exiled with it which fills the stipulation printed on the card, but at the same time it's not there anymore, I've been hit with so many gotchas lately in my pod i feel like I'm gaslighting myself
>>98532941I didn't say they weren't legal. I said no one would care. Try not to be a retard next time.
>>98533098>As long as a card exiled with Eater of Virtue has hexproof, equipped creature has hexproof.As long as. If someone casts Pull From the Deep on the only card exiled with Eater of Virtue that has hexproof, there will no longer be a card exiled with Eater of Virtue that has hexproof.Equipped creature will lose hexproof.
>>98532994The image is fine except for the manchest. A full img2img gets rid of the details that are actually cute and/or good. I maintain that using a targeted mask for inpainting would yield better results than just redrawing the entire thing and removing any of the good elements of the original.Babies and bathwater or whatever.
>>98533100>I said no one would care.clearly people care about it because otherwise gold border cradle wouldn't be 1/5th the price of black border cradle
>>98532825>>98532787I have midnight clock, time reversal, echo of eonsThe toss up is: timetwisteror this guy
>>98533133Timetwister for sure.
tqThe beautiful thing about Celes decks is that even though she's all-important to the deck's strategy, you actually don't care if she gets removed since you can so easily revive her and get here draw effect again
>>98533111OK, that's what I thought but last time I played with one of them i got fucked on by an aura going on my guy despite having hexproof and ever since I feel like I've been reading shit too much in depth
>>98533168too tryhard, I bought rusko for $40 so hes slotted now
>>98533126>Your cards must be legit for an unsanctioned format where the competitive scene openly uses and advocates for proxy.No one would care. Don't be a retard for a third time.
>>98533346>>98533346>who cares if your cards aren't legit for an unsanctioned format where the competitive scene openly uses and advocates for proxy, do whatever you want.ok buddy boy lmao
>>98533359>A proxy of a real card is the same as a fake cardGonna go for a 4th?
>>98533365>your card isn't from wotc printers? i sleep>your card isn't from wotc r&d? real shit!!you're such a fucking wotc cocksucker lmao
>>98533368Can he do it? Can he be a retard for a 5th time? Will he be a retard grand slam champion?
>>98533297that rule is annoying as hell, but yes, when an aura enters via any means other than being cast, its controller can ignore hexproof and shroud when attaching it. Song of the Dryads bruh moment
>>98533380Yeah keep guzzling that maro and tron cum the people have the means of production on cardboard but god forbid we have the means of production on card design!
>>98533392so, like... are you arguing that people SHOULD be able to play homebrew cards in casual commander, or that they SHOULDN'T be able to play gold border cards?because at first it seemed like the argument was for the latter point. but now it seems like you're saying the first.
>>98533417>gold border should be legal>nobody cares>but they do care, it's reflected in the price>still nobody cares, it's a proxy anyway>but if gold border was legal it wouldn't be a proxy>nobody cares, do what you want in an unsanctioned format where everyone openly uses fake cards>ok can i use custom cards then?>no you should bow down to wotc r&d like a real boy who said you could do whatever you wantif you're smart you'll get my next point, picrel
oh look it's another episode of two retards fighting about anything>w-well what else are we supposed to talk about
>>98533392He did it! Buh gawd he did it! He fulfilled his childhood dream of being retard grand slam champion! Dreams do come true folks!
>>98533473Took you that long to think of a shitty reply huh? So much for not caring kek
>>98533478His celebration continues! Long live the retard grand champion!
>>98533439I think we should all post our favorite card from Alara block instead of arguing.
>>98533490My custom cards are just as real as your cards that fail the green dot test, you WILL let me enter your pod or you're a bitch haha
>>98533496always and forever
>>98533500Long live Grand Retard!Long live Grand Retard!
>>98533511>remember guys, he literally doesnt care
>>98532549Baste
>>98533496Now you're speaking my language
>>98533204If you don't immediately go infinite the moment Celes hits the field you built the deck wrong.
>>98533496>>98533507>>98533530I got into magic right around that time, back when i was a kidI remember getting all of these in boosters too. I miss those days
>>98533439>w-well what else are we supposed to talk aboutThe fact nobody on any mtg thread, not even the anti-UB one, ever talks or argues about:StoriesCharacters PlanesColor concepts (how would Green respond to this hypothetical! What would Saddam's color be in the color pie!)Really shows how little anyone who plays Magic actually likes Magic's in universe worldbuilding. in other words let's talk about how much wizards fucking sucks at worldbuilding
>>98533587you know I actually gave some thought and discussion to that stuff when I was doing a d&d campaign on Ravnica
>>98533548I play Celes in a bracket 3 pod as a reanimator aggro deck
>>98533587this feels like a thinly-veiled attempt to reignite a UB argument
>>98533587I personally find it funny how the best MtG story in the last 7 years was a fanfic about Bolas being gay and somehow that mogged WotC's attempts at infinitely less retarded ideas.
>>98533626I like how they just gave up and made Gay Bolas canon in TDM.
>>98533587saddam is ub
>>98533587Half of Magic is UB now and half of that other half people say is "basically UB" anyway so I think we should cope and argue over whether or not EOE counts as UB.
>>98533655saddam would also be jund
>playing Queen Marchesa>guy to my left is popping off with Galadriel Elfball, used Akroma's Will and Hordes to Infect kill the other two>he's tapped out>I use all my mana on Insurrection and swing his massive army at him for lethal>long live the queenholy fuck that was awesome
>>98533750>play Insurrection win gamemany such cases, it's a fun card anon
>>98533111>>98533098Similar question about EaterLet's say I'm playing Odric and have the katana attached to a weenie that thanks to his keyword sharing, has Flying Lifelink Indestructible Vigilance Double Strike until end of turnI sac the weenie to Ashnod's Altar for 2 mana and exile it. Does it retain its keywords as it was exiled with them, or does it turn into a do-nothing at the end of turn when Odric's Share Effect wears off?
>>98533750This didn't happen.
What are you guys' thoughts on these type of removal, disenchants with an option to just draw a card? Run any of these opposed to other ones? In the good year of the god emperor 2026 I still run Hull Breach and Decimate
>>98533785Odric's effect doesn't apply to exiled cards, therefore the weenie exiled with Eater of Virtue doesn't have Lifelink Indestructible Vigilance or Double Strike unless those are printed on the card. It never stops being a do-nothing at any point in this process. (Well, it gives +2/+0.)>As long as a card exiled with Eater of Virtue has...Just look at the actual physical cards exiled with Eater of Virtue. If it has a relevant keyword, then the equipment gives that keyword.
GOD I fucking hate insurrection. they always kill me with some randos creatures and then die shortly after because they kingmade
>>98533826I think it's a good option if the problem has indestructible and you need to hopefully top deck some other card to handle the problem.
>>98533826it alright especially in some kind of spells-matter. I really dig these modal toolboxy commons and uncommons, they really make it possible to throw bulk into a $10 deck (not counting basics) Heritage Reclamation is in my Kraven deck; I wouldn't replace it with either of the other two because the deck is already really good at destroying creatures and doesn't need the help with flyers. I think it's better in most decks too, but I suppose if you were in Simic then the flying hate could be helpful since you're low on instant speed creature removal otherwise.
>>98533658I was thinking Mardu. He didn't seem very green to me. The bad side of white is heavily authoritarian.
>>98533587>storiesall terribly terribly bad>charactersall awful as well>planesabout 1/3 are cool and interesting. ravnica, dominaria for example. even EoE is a cool plane concept and monster wise. I liked duskmourn too, but the survivors are REALLY gay and clearly there just to appease the tranny audience.really they should have fired whoever's in charge of story a long time ago, but I actually like the world building and concepts behind the planes (the way they look and the creatures in them, etc.)
>>98533829Ah fuck. So I need to sac like a redundant card with say Flying Vigilance if I want the katana to have it. Not really worth including in Odric then, thanks anon!
>>98533853iraq is an arid place so yeah i guess mardu fits better
>>98533786Whats hard to believe about it. I even had to buy time by One Ringing myself so he couldn't swing and just used resources he had to build up his board some more for me to steal
>>98533496It's hard to choose since that block had so many cool cards but master transmuter used to be an old favorite of mine.
>>98533886when was the last time mtg made a notable white blonde female character after thalia and emmara again?
>>98533902How old is Eriette
>>98533929eriette has white hair
>>98533959Oh i thought you meant white blonde like the Malfoys
>>98528962A lot of my decks do, some don't, but my main deck doesn't even care after a certain point. Once I have my draw engines and I've ramped to the point where I might as well have infinite mana, which is the main game plan, removing Giada is both pointless and hopeless. One time I recasted her for like 8 just because I could and then slammed down 4 more angels on that same turn. What a brainless deck.
>>98533902Rowan male blonds are even rarer I think, although admittedly yes Will is right there
>>98533981lol i actually forgot all about those twins
>>98533750Fuckin love insurrection, probably the only truly viable wincon in my Zidane trashpile. I guess there's mob rule, too, but that rarely wins all on its own
>>98533974That face is uncanny.
>>98533974You know what, I was curious. I had already done several slop edits with cards before this I wondered if it could really fix something small like this and make it look completely natural. I was correct, and it did it with the least effort possible with a plain language English request, "make Hatsune Miku look like Hatsune Miku and not some shitty western cartoon." AI is truly a gift to us all. Fuck the original artists, my fully proxied Miku deck is gonna have this done to all the western art I was forced to include now. Thank you for your complaint, Anon.
>>98534138not that much better at least it reads animeish
>>98534138most art shortcomings can be attributed to a dumbass art director, and this isn't even wotc's first time
>>98534190That's literally all they had to do, but they didn't.
>>98533974that flavor text is hilarious and retarded (perfect for mtg). its a fucking animated avatar for a digital voice synthesizer by Korg. holy CROW>>98533844oh this is a fun card I some how missed and didnt open in any FF booster. memorable early scene from the otherwise dog shit slow ass game known as FF9. (albeit still better than anything called "final fantasy" made in the last 20 years)>>98533826I didnt realize return to nature was already power crept YIKES. I run a plain ol disenchant in a white/black deck and Nature's Claim in green. plus I will usually run at least one lockup type thing (like song of the dryads) and one transform (like beast within) and at least one exile (like anguished unmaking in B/W, arch druid's charm in mono green)but having a cycling option like the FF one or a cantrip attached is nice for sure. guess I'd have to look at whats out there.
>>98534190That's the best one I think it did with just one single prompt. This one kept the western style the most if you really prefer that kinda slop. I just wanted the face changed not the outfit, the outfit is perfectly fine. Miku has worn a *lot* of weird shit I've found over the last few days, her craziest outfit design probably being from Lucky Orb and craziest design overall being from Bacterial Contamination.
>>98533826It's a 'necessary' response to a BO1 format being the face of Magic. In the old days you wouldn't run mainboard artifact/enchantment removal unless the meta was extremely biased toward one or both of those types. You would have sideboard slots with disenchant style effects for specific matchups.This was the original purpose of Cycling by the way; having niche cards that you could pay a little bit of mana to replace if you ended up in a matchup where that niche wasn't filled. Of course JotC being staffed with retarded incompetents decided that the raison d'etre of a mechanic wasn't important anymore and started putting it on generally useful cards. They leaned into the handful of mistakes of early Cycling design instead of the actual good designs.I'm personally against these cards because I think it's important to always run enchantment/artifact removal if your colors allow it and players should learn to dedicate mainboard slots to hate cards/removal if their deck gets fucked by that particular card type. These type of designs reward shoddy deckbuilding and poor play in which every card 'needs' to have an immediate impact when you draw it and the concept of saving something for a big threat instead of playing it just to use your mana every turn is unheard of.
>>98534191AKTULLYwith UB shit, since groomers of the coast had their balls removed in a surgery, they don't negotiate with other IP holders to enable their normally contracted artists to be able to sell their master prints (I forget what they call the original art). so real deal MTG artists (who's left anyway, no Queen Terese or baller Seb left, Donato rarely will work with them and Frazier being so old has some computer hijinks going on) usually dont deal with UB shit especially SLD...tl;dr its usually in-house artists doing the UB art since they're already bound by the super restrictive contract agreements (controlling their money). for Korg I have no idea what kind of art department they have but clearly they have something for Miku (blech) to even be a thing.
>>98534253sounds like you want wishboards to emulate sideboards in edh, i don't mind at all
>>98534253thats bullshit all the early tournament decks had like 3x disenchants. plus armageddon and strip mine. >pic related
>>98534259>clearly they have something for Miku (blech) to even be a thing.Dude that card was literally designed by a Miguel. They've probably got the janitor pumping out shit at this point ahahah.
>>98534300>1 Floral SpuzzemWhat will he choose?
>>98534253>>98534271this is part of the original optional rules for commanderpersonally I think having a wish board would be extremely cancerous to a format already wildly warped by GōtC with partners, backgrounds and other transgressions. but it is in the OG rules
I want to make a deck all about BLOR. But I'm still green. What are the best frogs, greens, and generic goodstuffs I could build around? Things I know that came to mind:>Super State>Strong back>Colossification>Overprotect (obviously right)>prodigious growth
>>98534327sideboard to demolish a winter orb or icy manip would be my best guess, I don't think theres footage of the '94 worlds unfortunately
>>98534347Put Must Be Blocked shit on him too.
>>98534327>>98534359of course that is to say, who knows if the Spuzzum d'Jizm doesn't have a mind of his own...
>>98534347before you start down this path, you're not gonna be upset or feel like you wasted your time if someone points out that there are commanders that do basically the same thing but better and / or at a lower mana value, right?because building around a kind of suboptimal commander is soulful but I don't want you to get discouraged halfway through the process
>>98534396He's not bad. Basically a better Thrun, the Last Troll
>>98534396He literally has it all from the get-go outside of being able to blink himself, what, "better", commanders are you even referring to?
>>98534396i'd like to hear about those commanders, but i think i'd still like blor. maybe his status as a frog can help him with some other bloomburrow cards? idk how many mono green frogs can help with that so i figured id ask>>98534368any others like this? another thing im looking for if it exists is protection for your artifacts and or enchantments
>>98534347he costs 3 too much
>>98534368God damn someone put pariah on my lightning army of one to stop me from attacking them and I dropped that and put it on her, fantastic.
hit-monkey is just better overall
>>98534412yeah he's okay but not like the new hotness which is true of a lot of mbc commanders >>98534424>>98534425I'd argue that Hitmonkey and Wilson are a lot better, it's not that hard to just give them the indestructible that Blor has and Wilson even gives you an extra color + 1 CiH>idk how many mono green frogs can help with that so i figured id askhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=id%3Ag+otag%3Atypal-frog&unique=cards&as=grid&order=namethere's a very small amount of mono G frogs support, Poliwhallop and Oakhollow Village are both probably worth running if you decide to make it frogs.dec for the laughs, but that's really what Clement and Grolnok are meant to do
(to be clear I am saying that I think that I think a Blor deck would be fun)
>>98534347Personally I would be trying pump Blor with counters via enchantments or other creatures and use stuff like pic related, Sakiko, Mother of Summer, and The Aetherspark to have Blor's damage continue the gravy train with more mana. Most stuff that does power = draw goes in to capitalize off of the frog. Lots of dorks and quick ramp to get to 5 mana as fast as you can. No other mono green frogs synergize with the plan so none of those go in. He already has trample so you can just focus on making him big enough to swing through any blockers and no worry about chump blocks.Probably middling no matter how you play it but mono green voltron is pretty homeless anyway so who cares.
>>98534486>Hitmonkey and WilsonDies to removal dude. Wtf even is this argument?
>>98534513did you see where I said "you can give them the indestructible that Blor has" because that goes for hexproof tooand yes you can also give Blor the reach and vigilance that the other two have, but it's less efficient game plan overall since he's way up at 5cmc (and not uncounterable either)
>>98534253Even disregarding how people would mainboard Disenchant like the other anon said, the coexistence of Cycling with sideboards renders Cycling redundant. Especially because even Cycling {2} is a rate bad enough you don't want to mainboard it with the expectation of actually paying 2 mana to cantrip. Why run a card that becomes 2 mana "Draw a card" in most matchups when you can just sideboard a stronger hate piece that only goes in your deck in matchups where you know it's live?This also ended up leading to overspecialization in sideboard pieces that created a lot of extremely unhealthy play patterns. AKA the infamous "Dredge wins game 1 then games 2 and 3 are about whether you open Leyline of the Void" where hate pieces were no longer limited by how niche they were, and instead only had to focus on how hard they could instantly win matchups which is itself another problem where the game comes down to Go Fish rather than any sort of involved decision-making.
>>98534500>This mana doesn't cause mana burnOh boy! What a deal!
>>98534513it's always better to start killing opponents earlier than paying more to be more protected but not ultimately all-encompassing (blor still dies to sac effects)
>TQI'd say this one relies a lot on Vito, that's why I run swiftboot boots or instants like Not Dead After All or Undying Malice. But I feel like there must be a better way to protect him, as he's almost always a targetSuggestions to improve the deck?https://moxfield.com/decks/YfqM-bq4u0q-3OfNun1vig
>>98534616I don't remember vito having a nameplate on his desk reading "Don Vito" I feel like that would really hurt his plausible deniability
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/World_Championship_Decks/1999#Kai_Budde,_World_Champion
2nd round of opinions:I make a deal with player B, to deal with player Cs board that we cant let untap with. He doesn’t swing at me for 3. I board wipe, dealing with all problems.Did I break the deal?Same player, different gameWe make a deal - player B removes player Cs infinite combo piece and stop the win on players C turn, if he does, I cant attack or reduce his life, and we cant touch each others boards on our next turns. He counters my sakashima, then I cast alter of dementia, and exile his library. Did I break the either deal?
>>98534347Wilson with Raised by Giants or Agent of the Shadow Thieves would be objectively better. Better keywords for less mana. You’re paying three extra mana for hexproof and indestructible in mono green, the color that can easily achieve that in the 99 with less mana and dozens of choices.
>>985347661. no because you wiped C's board - you didn't promise that you wouldn't wipe B's board as well2. no because 'not touching each other's boards' means no touching permanents; sakashima was dealt with on the stack and B's library isn't a permanent
>>98534766I don't understand why people bother dealmaking.>Hey can I pretty please get something extra if you make this obviously correct decision?
>>98534879The thing is there are some people who will actually not want to do the obviously correct decision (haha just le casual game) so such borderline griefers have to be coaxed
>>98532588ask jotc to make more cards with big tiddy women if you don't want to be replaced by machines
>>98532549Why did you make her so streched and gangly?
Can we talk about Pauper Commander here?My first stab at the format (to be honest, having never even seen a match), not even a full list yet.https://scryfall.com/@mytgmtg/decks/5565beed-5333-4f02-b07f-6265d47e1ee0The idea is to have reliable life gain so I can keep bringing Deathless Knight back from the graveyard, then summoning, equipping and attacking every round. I never send him to the commander zone, because he'll be back in my hand next turn anyway, while everyone else's commanders are getting more expensive.What I know I'm missing - ramping, more token generation since I can't bring him back to block, only to attack.What do you guys think? Is this anything?
>>98534960Pauper commnader sounds fun until you realize there are no boardwipes and no good ways to win with combat damage so your only option is to play combo.
>>98534924that's what skinny people look like you fat sack of shit
>>98534991She already was thin, you just made here grow 2 feet and be anorexic other than her tits
>People still think EDHREC means most played and not most brewed and what that distinction means.
>>98535037She's on her way to the Number 10 spot
>>98535037UB isn't winning... good commanders are still on top... real players don't play slop... sales don't mean anything... the real fans will win out...
>>98534347tribal frogs would be fun but this dude can slot in just like a Toski deck. which I just made it a Voltron equipment deck. Larry Niven's disk and whirlwind for board wipes. Give him death touch so fight spells are kill spells. I don't know how good tribal frogs are, tribal squirrels are silly but I just wasn't interested in it. I even took the myriad x2 squirrel out (although it would be good for draw, maybe I should put it back in)colossification is in my deck, and I have instill energy in there to untap him to use it on the same turn because that will be a lightning magnet for removal. super state is great, I dont have it in mine actually but have been wanting to get it but keep forgetting. I have Iron Man Armor (newish card) to give him flying. He's got exponential growth which is double target creatures power X times. easy to go over 100 with that. Blackblade Reforged is a great equipment. Priciest equipment I have for him I think is Power Fist. Bow of Nylea is nice. Buster Sword is great if you have it but don't break the bank for it. its hard to even find a proxy of but Riding the Dilu Horse is silly AF and its a permanent effect (until the creature is removed). Gives horsemanship and +3/+3. every time I've whipped that out people thought it was silly AF. strong back is great and I actually didn't see that one (kind of missed most of fallout but I do have power fist as mentioned). its good to diversify having equipment + some auras. earth crystal from final fantasy is good. if you can swing it or get a proxy also get The Ozolith to save counters. shadow spear + sword of truth & justice are Must-proxiesanother less obvious but useful one is "awakening zone", enchantment that makes an eldrazi spawn token (sac for colorless) so if it ends up being more Voltron than tribal frogs you've got chump blockers plus generating mana for equip costsalso either Crawlspace (cheaper) or Silent Arbiter if it goes Voltron
>>98535068Its okay you don't know how EDHREC works. They didn't drones out in the middle of the night to rummage through everyones decks to know what they are actually playing. Instead, they just pool from uploaded, public decks on sites like moxfield and generate data from that. You know, the kinds of places where you can just set anything as a commander and nothing else, upload it and it sees it as "a deck."Surely, no one did this. There really was a surge of 5K real decks, being played for really reals in two weeks being made that pushed her above Ur-dragon.Another incredibly expensive and brewed deck but barely actually made and used.
>>98535090Just 1 more year until the collapse of UB... one more year until WotC realizes their mistake and Magic is saved...
>>98534486bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. the printed effect is always gonna beat wishing you had the card in hand. even if you have a mithril coat in hand who's to say you've got the mana for ittoski I think is still the kind of this kind of thing though because its indestructible + card draw + uncounterable + medium cost
>>98534548they need to print more cards that enable mana burn especially in red. its insane theres one commander that does it and thats it
>>98535099Who said that? Who said anything like that?What is being said is that EDHREC doesn't reflect what's actually being played.Stop being intentionally retarded.
>>98535114There's no demand for this because people aren't floating mana on phase change for no reason.>But what if I give them a bazillion manaYeah and the moment someone can spend it you look retarded
>>98535116One more year... it's not real... it's all a dream... real players don't do this... all the numbers are lying...
>>98535126Okay retard.
>>98535068>>98535090>>98535099whats funny is the UB commanders that are popular are from good franchises that make sense and are high fantasyOther than King Arthur stories from literally 900 years ago, Tolkien's stuff is the most influential high fantasy work since the year 1135. Dungeons & Dragons, Final Fantasy and Magic: the Gathering are all directly influenced by Lord of the Rings & the Hobbitno surprise the top UB commanders are from LOTR & FF. Looking right now, in the top 50, most are universe within or FF or LOTR. theres 1 from Avatar the Last Airbender and 2 from Fallout, and fallout is massive so I don't think anyone should really be complaining even if you can't stand UBtl;dr: Tolkien is 2nd party to MTG, FF is like a cousin
>>98535178Dunno man. I think some of the Hobbit commanders are going to get high up there. CEDH is losing their minds over the sultai elf.
>>98535131Just one more year... just one more year...
>ordered Radagast of Rhosgobel and Bilbo, fellow conspirator in extended foil among other hobbit slop>prices spiked up after I ordered>didn't get cancelledFinally, a decent online seller. Time to do obnoxious green shit.
>>98535178Toph is in the top 50 with Azula though
>>98535178It's more that commanders get stronger over time and a huge chunk of viable new commanders are UB so they naturally replace the older more outdated commanders.
>>98534879I mean a "Hey mate we gotta do something about this guy, we truce for a turn" is a pretty fair thing at my table
GOOD EVENING FUCK SIMIC
>>98535409this should say "when you draw a card put the top card of your library into your hand instead"
There I fixed them
>>98535088>>98534500>>98534790thank you anons, I will keep all these thoughts in mind as I consider how to BLOR
>>98535413Just have it say "Your opponents can't draw cards" I'm sure people would love it stopping simic.
>>98535195hobbit is tolkien so thats 1000% fine if you think MTG should stick to high fantasy. you do know the Hobbit is the prequel to LOTR from the 1930s right?>>98535225I opened this (foil but not borderless) in the same collector I got my foil book cover Gleaming Splendor from. not sure what else to do with it other than slot it into a Toski deck? do you have any specific hijinks planned for it>>985352262 ATLA my bad. hey zoomies loved avatar TLA, could be worse. Eastern inspired shit is big in magic now>>98535230power creep is real for sure. but legendary creatures used to REALLY suck
>>98535543Creatures as a whole used to suck.
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